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00:02:59 <Mekkis> Avatar, Brunius Hydrazine: FAQ this please http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2prhn?Lighting-and-the-effects-of-darkness-spells
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01:28:53 <Steven> herro
01:59:37 <Steven1> suuuuuuuuuuup
02:00:05 <Mekkis> enjoying brisbane public transport
02:00:17 <Mekkis> and prepping scenarios
02:07:32 <MekkisScreen> it's hydra!
02:10:43 <Steven1> that does sound like fun mekkis
02:17:49 <Steven> so its been quiet in here everytime ive stepped in the last couple of days
02:22:58 <Hydrazine> Oh no! Where?!
02:26:29 <Mekkis> I detected traces in the channel!
02:29:48 <Mekkis> steven, how long should I wait after a con before asking my local VC to report it?
02:35:01 <Steven1> i dunno
02:35:11 <Steven1> I've never had a problem with it.
02:35:34 <Steven1> Then again we always report at the cons.
02:35:51 <Mekkis> is Easter long enough?
02:36:03 * Steven1 shrugs
02:36:20 <Steven1> ask him? whats the worst thing that could happen?
02:42:18 <Steven1> i wanna do some pfs...
02:42:42 <Steven1> cant wait till next week when they release the next 2 scenarios
02:43:42 <Mekkis> don't say I didn't warn you about burnout
02:48:18 <Steven1> mekkis... when we met i had already played like 3/4 of the games available.
02:49:21 <Mekkis> I know
02:49:33 <Mekkis> so had I
02:51:27 <Mekkis> the difference is I still have about 3/4 of the games available
03:04:59 <Mekkis> steven: what would a reasonable diplomacy DC for Aratheo in Enemy's Enemy be?
03:07:02 <Steven> i dont know who aratheo is
03:07:24 <Mekkis> the creature on the front
03:08:46 <Steven> Antaios is on high alert and
03:08:46 <Steven> violently attacks any creature entering this area out of
03:08:47 <Steven> fear and a sense of self-preservation
03:09:00 <Mekkis> yeah
03:09:31 <Steven> MoraleOnce Antaios falls to fewer than half its
03:09:31 <Steven> full normal hit points, it attempts to assimilate
03:09:31 <Steven> the nearest 5 cubic feet of plant material in
03:09:31 <Steven> order to heal its wounds. It retreats to a corner
03:09:31 <Steven> and takes total defense if reduced to one quarter
03:09:31 <Steven> its total hit points.
03:09:37 <Mekkis> so unable to be placated by anything short of /calm emotions/?
03:10:17 <Steven> Plant traits
03:11:19 <Avatar> http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/103891
03:14:59 <Steven> there is no way to not fight it unless you can remove it from existance for a time
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03:17:31 <Brunius> !rng vriska terezi
03:17:32 <diebot> Brunius, terezi
03:17:36 <Brunius> bad idea, diebot
03:17:45 <Avatar> what is vriska and terezi
03:17:50 <Brunius> characters
03:17:57 <Avatar> elaborate
03:18:12 <Brunius> http://www.mspaintadventures.com
03:18:21 <Avatar> this can't end well
03:18:31 <Brunius> It's only ~7.1k pages long at this point.
03:19:16 <Avatar> did you elaborate on vriska and terezi
03:20:06 <Brunius> that's about page four thousand
03:20:20 <Brunius> Vriska is the cool kid patron troll of john
03:20:28 <Brunius> Who gets him killed in an offshoot timeline
03:20:43 <Brunius> But then dave from that timeline travels back and becomes a sprite and tells John not to do the thing that gets him killed
03:20:44 <Brunius> So that's okay.
03:20:57 <Brunius> She's obsessed with 8, and carries a bunch of d8s around
03:21:25 <Brunius> Terezi is Dave's patron troll, is blind, smells colours, and gets Dave killed in an offshoot timeline.
03:21:32 <Brunius> Seems to be a bunch of needless character death here.
03:21:33 <Brunius> Huh.
03:22:14 <Brunius> Anyway they've each got a symbol from ancient greece and I'm trying to decide which I want printed on a t-shirt
03:23:08 <Avatar> you need to be playing more pathfinder
03:25:10 <Brunius> what why
03:25:20 <Brunius> I'm only 1.1k pages from the end!
03:25:43 <Avatar> what can I say
03:25:44 <Avatar> you just do
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03:31:29 <Brunius> Man what did I have going down on thursday
03:31:32 <Brunius> I remember something was
03:31:55 <Mekkis> SOI3?
03:32:13 <Brunius> Pretty sure that wasn't it
03:32:35 <Brunius> Since I've already played that
03:34:15 <Avatar> yeah grolschmir
03:34:34 <Mekkis> yeah
03:34:39 <Mekkis> Grolschmir
03:34:54 <Avatar> that for me is the grolschmir scenario
03:35:19 <Mekkis> I think Delirium's Tangle is the real Grolschmir scenario
03:40:19 <Steven> im trying to decide if theres anything better than quickdraw for me right now
03:40:36 <Mekkis> !define theorycraft: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pru8&page=4?Mods-Too-EasyHard-Misses-the-Point#157
03:40:37 <diebot> Mekkis, http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pru8&page=4?Mods-Too-EasyHard-Misses-the-Point#157 defined as ??theorycraft
03:42:57 <Avatar> that is a political buzzword
03:47:32 <Mekkis> perhaps, but it's the best way of describing the uninformed rules suggestions that keep cropping up.
03:47:42 <Mekkis> the best method I've found at least...
03:49:07 <Avatar> isn't it a bit hard to know who knows what
03:49:16 <Avatar> I mean not for that kind of thing I guess
03:50:40 <Mekkis> I mean, you know I've put some house-rules in place in WotW, right
03:50:55 <Brunius> Such as
03:51:15 <Mekkis> you can draw a wand as part of movement, as if it were a weapon
03:51:16 <Avatar> the training
03:51:55 <Avatar> can't you actually do that
03:52:19 <Brunius> Steven says you can't
03:52:21 <Brunius> I say you can.
03:52:26 <Brunius> RAW
03:52:28 <Avatar> Drawing a weapon so that you can use it in combat, or
03:52:28 <Avatar> putting it away so that you have a free hand, requires a move
03:52:28 <Avatar> action. This action also applies to weapon-like objects
03:52:28 <Avatar> carried in easy reach, such as wands.
03:52:34 <Mekkis> not RAW you can't
03:52:34 <Mekkis> it's the main reason why people put wands in spring-loaded wrist sheaths.
03:52:47 <Avatar> people put them in spring loaded wrist sheathes to draw them as a swift action
03:53:33 <Mekkis> If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you may
03:53:33 <Mekkis> draw a weapon as a free action combined with a regular
03:53:33 <Mekkis> move.
03:53:58 <Avatar> okay? that's not the same thing
03:53:59 <Mekkis> in the following paragraph, it then only applies to weapons
03:54:27 <Mekkis> So RAW, move action to draw a wand, free action while moving to draw a weapon
03:54:45 <Avatar> that whole section is pretty clearly talking about the same thing
03:54:49 <Mekkis> I'm extending it to allow free action while moving to draw a wand.
03:54:51 <Avatar> do you want it to refer to wands throughout
03:55:03 <Mekkis> I'd rather it's explicit, yes.
03:55:25 <Mekkis> That being said, when I GM, I'll allow it with wands regardless.
03:55:27 <Avatar> jesus man
03:55:43 <Avatar> you have to let go a bit
03:56:00 <Avatar> it's not a house rule, the intent is clear even if it's not 110% precise
03:56:04 <Avatar> that would just be wording in the way
03:58:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, http://paizo.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/search?q=drawing+a+wand+while+moving&what=messageboards
03:58:11 <Mekkis> as you can see, it REALLY isn't clear.
03:58:58 <Brunius> as you can see, plenty of GMs don't allow any flexibility at all.
03:59:18 <Mekkis> as you probably know, PFS GMs are supposed to run things RAW
04:00:31 <Mekkis> I'm trying to remember if I tried doing that when Brock was GMing
04:00:42 <Mekkis> probably not - I was playing a cleric
04:02:29 <Avatar> did you actually read those threads
04:02:41 <Avatar> any argument saying you can't draw on the move is very weak
04:02:48 <Avatar> and there's not many
04:02:50 <Mekkis> yes. There's a lot of flaming to and fro, and no [O]fficial ruling
04:03:10 <Avatar> there isn't a lot of flaming to and fro
04:03:24 <Mekkis> other than "It's best to sharpen the end of the wand so you can call it a 'weapon'"
04:04:21 <Avatar> someone recommends saying that you should say you are drawing an improvised weapon, haha
04:04:41 <Brunius> ha
04:04:52 <Brunius> Remember that first scenario
04:05:04 <Brunius> Where you picked up a sign and smashed it against the wall twice
04:05:12 <Brunius> To get your aim in
04:05:30 <Avatar> that thread has a lot of pointless banter, like hey maybe quick draw can be used to draw anything since anything can be an improvised weapon, etc
04:05:46 <Avatar> the reason that thread is prolonged is for the sake of talking it out to the nth degree
04:05:51 <Avatar> it's pretty damn clear
04:06:09 <Avatar> they've obviously gotten carried away
04:07:57 <Avatar> you may as well say the second sentence where it says
04:08:03 <Avatar> This action also applies to weapon-like objects
04:08:03 <Avatar> carried in easy reach, such as wands.
04:08:13 <Avatar> you could argue "what action are they talking about? they don't specify."
04:18:25 <Brunius> Anyone able to transfer me like six dorra on paypal? I'll pay you back at some point...in scenarios, I guess?
04:18:39 <Mekkis> what for?
04:19:33 <Brunius> buying geeky t-shirts
04:19:46 <Brunius> Uh, four dollars actually
04:19:54 <Brunius> I can't count, apparently
04:25:16 <Avatar> won't your parents give you $4
04:26:23 <Mekkis> US or AUD?
04:26:57 <Avatar> here we go
04:27:02 <Avatar> you'll give him $4 if you make 10c profit
04:27:34 <Brunius> Got it sorted, I think
04:27:44 <Brunius> They can't transfer into paypal for some strange reason
04:30:58 <Mekkis> no. my paypal has $US15 on it for some reason
04:55:04 <Avatar> don't lie you want the 10c profit
05:17:29 <Steven1> alright back!
05:17:33 <Steven1> so... whats goin on?
05:17:44 <Steven1> nothin eh?
05:17:50 <Steven1> welll that sucks.
05:32:11 <Mekkis> do I appear that much of a cheapskate, Avatar?
05:48:37 <Avatar> no you are willing to send chronicle sheets on a canvas
05:55:17 <Brunius> Who are these guys that keep jumping in on mibbit
05:56:24 <Falang> Hmm.
05:59:03 <Mekkis> yay
05:59:11 <Brunius> One down
05:59:16 <Mekkis> ja
06:00:17 <Mekkis> brunius, you should start a campaign
06:00:28 <Brunius> I've got my hands full with this shit at school man
06:01:41 <Avatar> fucking school
06:01:45 <Avatar> ruining everything
06:01:51 <Avatar> ruining our fun
06:02:02 <Brunius> Oh god I can't imagine next year
06:02:10 <Brunius> Two year 12 subjects this year is doing my head in
06:02:19 <Avatar> are you in year 12
06:02:22 <Brunius> Although I think the year 11 subjects are actually giving more homework
06:02:28 <Brunius> I'm doing an accelerated program
06:02:31 <Avatar> year 11 and 12 are the same
06:02:59 <Brunius> So we do a mix of the current year and the year ahead
06:03:09 <Brunius> So year 7 we did 7/8 work, 8 did 8/9, etc.
06:03:28 <Brunius> 11 doesn't affect my ATAR
06:03:29 <Avatar> the leap in difficulty is on year 10 to 11, there's no change in 11 to 12
06:03:33 <Brunius> Or whatever they're calling it this week
06:03:36 <Brunius> ENTER score
06:03:49 <Brunius> I didn't notice that much 10 to 11
06:04:02 <Avatar> then you are set
06:04:42 <Brunius> Just slog through this shit for the next 18 months. Oh joy.
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06:09:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, you should run a campaign here. You're risking PFS burnout
06:15:21 <Steven1> mekkis you should run a campaign here!
06:15:24 <Steven1> oh wait...
06:15:26 <Steven1> damn it!
06:15:26 <Mekkis> I am
06:15:37 * Steven1 goes and gets himself another drink
06:15:58 <Mekkis> Steven1, you should give me some scotch. And a Wayang boon.
06:15:59 <Steven1> wish i still had some rum
06:16:26 <Steven1> no to wayang boon, and i'd be happy to share some scotch with you if you come over to my house.
06:16:41 <Mekkis> is it good scotch?
06:17:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you play Shades of Ice III in person?
06:21:41 <Steven1> ive got a glenlivet 12 year with about 4-5 drams left
06:22:34 <Steven1> and then i have a dalmore 12
06:23:32 <Steven1> unopened
06:23:35 <Steven1> a gift from my brother.
06:23:46 <Steven1> you show up, and ill uncork it
06:24:04 <Mekkis> what area do you like your scotches from?
06:24:29 <Steven1> dont really know where the glenlivet comes from, but i like that
06:24:50 <Mekkis> glenlivet's highland iirc
06:25:41 <Steven1> im more of a rum guy, but occationally i like to sit down and pour some scotch
06:25:53 <Steven1> usually when im smoking my pipe
06:26:00 <Proquar> avatar
06:26:20 <Steven1> something about scotch and some good tabacco
06:26:34 <Steven1> and for the dalmore i have, ill go find the website
06:26:59 <Steven1> http://singlecasknation.com/collections/nation-bottlings/products/dalmore-12-pedro-ximenex-finished
06:27:20 <Mekkis> I just drink the Islay malts. Very smoky. No tobacco required.
06:28:49 <Steven1> Brother gave me that for christmas, i put it on a shelf, havent touched it... may open it when my niece is born.
06:29:03 <Steven1> depends if mike's down for a drink afterwards
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06:36:19 <Steven1> so avatar, what kind of homebrew/AP you gonna do?
06:39:00 <Mekkis> that's cool. They're doing a remake of Flight of Dragons
06:46:35 <Avatar> what?
06:46:46 <Avatar> the disappeared is a PFS scenario
06:46:52 <Avatar> not homebrew
06:49:54 <Mekkis> would casting Shadow Evocation (deeper darkness) while telepathically communicating to your party that it's an illusion be a "jerk" move?
06:50:16 <Avatar> don't think that helps
06:50:55 <Mekkis> it gives them a +4 to their saves
06:51:44 <Avatar> if I'm in your party and you're about to throw a deeper darkness on me with +4 to my save, I'm gonna kill you
06:54:52 <Mekkis> Avatar, why doesn't Buck get a goz mask?
06:57:41 <Avatar> what is a goz mask
06:58:01 <Mekkis> Steven1, with the Permanent Image spell, does the " By concentrating, you can move the image within the limits of the range" mean that you can keep moving it within Long Range of yourself, or is it based on where you were standing when you cast it?
06:58:24 <Mekkis> A mask that gives you water breathing and the ability to see through fog as though it wasn't there.
06:58:28 <Avatar> that is only a good item if he's travelling with some joker who has a staff of stinking cloud and cloudkill
06:58:37 <Avatar> you should buy some of those for your fellow party members
07:03:32 <Avatar> buying party members some items to share while you're with them is actually a really great idea all round
07:03:45 <Avatar> especially for items in books they might not have
07:04:29 <Brunius> I didn't think of that book thing
07:04:51 <Avatar> I lent out some spring loaded wrist sheathes the other day
07:05:02 <Avatar> painlord talked about lending out pearls of power
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07:19:28 <Mekkis> what book thing, Brunius?
07:20:20 <Brunius> What avatar said literally the line beforehand
07:20:38 <Brunius> That seems really smart
07:20:39 <Mekkis> oh
07:20:46 <Mekkis> items in books they might not have
07:24:00 <Avatar> carry around a goz mask or 5
07:24:33 <Mekkis> I will. It's on Deceased's shopping list
07:25:39 <Mekkis> what about this: (deceased's shopping list starts with shitloads of potions of delay poison, followed by Staff of Abjuration, followed by Goz Mask)
07:26:36 <Avatar> I want to get an idea of what people's shopping lists look like
07:26:45 <Avatar> because good wondrous items only goes so far
07:27:06 <Mekkis> Mytiazair's shopping list includes a Staff of Many Rays
07:27:35 <Mekkis> Grolschmir's shopping list starts with "Make my lance +3 so I don't need to worry about DR/materials"
07:28:05 <Mekkis> Itzamna's shopping list is "What kind of crazy shit can I find."
07:28:07 <Mekkis> !search random
07:28:10 <diebot> Mekkis, 79 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
07:28:35 <Mekkis> probably one of them
07:28:58 <Avatar> sorry, itzamna's is dumb
07:29:14 <Avatar> and mytiazair's is exactly what I just talked about not trying to look for
07:29:27 <Mekkis> I think Itzamna is powerful enough. No need to spend more money to make him more powerful.
07:29:37 <Avatar> goz masks then
07:30:04 <Mekkis> Heneski will probably get a rod or something
07:30:34 <Avatar> Landruff is level 6 and has 12K and doesn't know what to spend it on
07:30:42 <Mekkis> Kernigahn wants a banner of ancient kings, but I haven't decided whether he'll get that before trying to improve his animal companion
07:30:48 <Avatar> he doesn't have a headband, but he doesn't really need one
07:30:52 <Mekkis> !find Landruff
07:30:56 <Mekkis> your druud?
07:30:57 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=359
07:30:59 <Avatar> yeah
07:31:02 <Avatar> might not be updated on there
07:31:14 <Avatar> pretty close, one scenario off
07:31:39 <Mekkis> you really need to put class level on your sheet
07:32:25 <Avatar> it's there
07:32:32 <Mekkis> where?
07:32:39 <Avatar> up the top
07:32:43 <Mekkis> oh
07:32:45 <Mekkis> under Level
07:32:56 <Avatar> yeah if it's not a multiclass character I don't put it right next to the class
07:35:16 <Mekkis> FYI, reincarnate isn't allowed in PFS
07:36:02 <Avatar> I'm aware
07:36:16 <Mekkis> it's just under your notes for later levels
07:36:36 <Mekkis> you're a frontliner, right?
07:36:43 <Mekkis> and you don't plan on wildshaping?
07:38:53 <Mekkis> it's a Mort-!
07:38:54 <Mort-> Mekkis
07:39:03 <Mekkis> she's alive!
07:39:12 <Mekkis> Mort-, have you played Impossible Creatures?
07:39:26 <Mort-> No but I'm not here for that
07:49:09 <Mekkis> not send. Print
07:52:37 <Mekkis> 901x507mm
07:52:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, what's the best scenario you've played?
07:57:26 <Mekkis> Avatar, do you remember the map that RyanK used for Shades of Ice III?
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09:17:35 <spider21b> hi
09:18:10 <Wrothmonk> hello
09:18:11 <Wrothmonk> ]
09:18:35 <Wrothmonk> I hate it when that happens..
09:24:12 <spider21b> hum?
09:24:52 <Wrothmonk> oh just when I finish typing, hit enter, and somehow manage to hit a random key and enter /again/
09:30:11 <spider21b> yea it happens
09:30:30 <spider21b> so school just got out for me so i can play in a few games
09:30:45 <Wrothmonk> cool
09:31:39 <spider21b> i am really exicted to play my level 2 wizard/fighter 1
09:33:10 <Wrothmonk> so why did you decline the true sorcery game if you dont mind me asking?
09:33:15 <Wrothmonk> just not available?
09:33:50 <spider21b> i thought, it wasn't pathfinder
09:34:20 <Wrothmonk> its pathfinder but with a different magic system. Also you're not going to even need a character for the first game.
09:34:28 <spider21b> huh?
09:34:40 <spider21b> oh is it a custom game?
09:34:44 <Wrothmonk> Yup
09:34:52 <spider21b> oh awesome
09:35:04 <spider21b> do i have to make a level one for it?
09:36:05 <Wrothmonk> You dont /have/ to for the first game, but if you can make a 1st level spellcaster to bring that would be great. You can find the details on the rules in the campaign page
09:36:23 <Wrothmonk> the first game is planned on just to test stuff
09:36:41 <Wrothmonk> http://pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=39 heres the campaign page
09:37:30 <spider21b> very cool
09:37:47 <spider21b> so what is the magic system based on?
09:39:04 <Wrothmonk> d20 which is a spinoff of d&d 3.0 is the core rules, but its easily adapted to pathfinder
09:39:09 <Wrothmonk> as*
09:40:00 <spider21b> i see
09:40:19 <spider21b> so like all magic is the same in this right?
09:40:23 <Wrothmonk> Yup
09:40:27 <spider21b> thats a bit annoying though
09:40:39 <spider21b> like clerics and wizards are the same
09:40:40 <Wrothmonk> How so?
09:41:18 <Wrothmonk> not quite, me and falang are working out archetypes which shuffle the spell requirements around.
09:41:47 <Wrothmonk> to separate wizards and clerics a little bit.
09:42:34 <spider21b> i gotcha, but i meant in the D&D version it seems like magic is like freaking avatar the last air bender
09:42:56 <spider21b> also it seems eazyer in this world if i play a ranger or somthing
09:45:16 <Wrothmonk> I suppose it is a bit complicated. As for being the last airbender, take a look at how you actually acquire the spells
09:45:19 <Wrothmonk> they are feats
09:46:21 <Wrothmonk> So its also more limiting on how many spells you can actually cast
09:49:04 <spider21b> well i will sign up for it maybe it will make more sense then
10:03:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, Brunius Hydrazine: FAQ this please http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2prhn?Lighting-and-the-effects-of-darkness-spells
10:12:32 <spider21b> u there?
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11:29:41 <Steven> herro
12:18:37 <Steven> so its been quiet in here everytime ive stepped in the last couple of days
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12:53:08 <spider21b> hi
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13:05:47 <Mekkis> steven: what would a reasonable diplomacy DC for Aratheo in Enemy's Enemy be?
13:07:50 <Steven> i dont know who aratheo is
13:08:12 <Mekkis> the creature on the front
13:09:34 <Steven> Antaios is on high alert and
13:09:34 <Steven> violently attacks any creature entering this area out of
13:09:34 <Steven> fear and a sense of self-preservation
13:09:48 <Mekkis> yeah
13:10:19 <Steven> MoraleOnce Antaios falls to fewer than half its
13:10:19 <Steven> full normal hit points, it attempts to assimilate
13:10:19 <Steven> the nearest 5 cubic feet of plant material in
13:10:19 <Steven> order to heal its wounds. It retreats to a corner
13:10:19 <Steven> and takes total defense if reduced to one quarter
13:10:19 <Steven> its total hit points.
13:10:25 <Mekkis> so unable to be placated by anything short of /calm emotions/?
13:11:05 <Steven> Plant traits
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13:15:47 <Steven> there is no way to not fight it unless you can remove it from existance for a time
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13:41:07 <Steven> im trying to decide if theres anything better than quickdraw for me right now
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16:02:22 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 23rd 7:30pm (tier 1-5,Mekkis) / Fri 24th 6pm (tier 1-5,Avatar) | WotW: Sat 25th 1:30pm | TrS: Sun 2nd 10am || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
16:02:22 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun May 19 12:33:58 2013
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16:06:44 <MekkisScreen> it's hydra!
16:09:55 <Steven1> that does sound like fun mekkis
16:22:10 <Hydrazine> Oh no! Where?!
16:25:41 <Mekkis> I detected traces in the channel!
16:29:00 <Mekkis> steven, how long should I wait after a con before asking my local VC to report it?
16:34:13 <Steven1> i dunno
16:34:23 <Steven1> I've never had a problem with it.
16:34:46 <Steven1> Then again we always report at the cons.
16:35:03 <Mekkis> is Easter long enough?
16:35:15 * Steven1 shrugs
16:35:32 <Steven1> ask him? whats the worst thing that could happen?
16:41:30 <Steven1> i wanna do some pfs...
16:41:54 <Steven1> cant wait till next week when they release the next 2 scenarios
16:42:54 <Mekkis> don't say I didn't warn you about burnout
16:47:30 <Steven1> mekkis... when we met i had already played like 3/4 of the games available.
16:48:33 <Mekkis> I know
16:48:45 <Mekkis> so had I
16:50:39 <Mekkis> the difference is I still have about 3/4 of the games available
17:10:31 <Avatar> http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/103891
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17:38:38 <Avatar> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sameo
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18:46:37 <Wrothmonk> Wow
18:47:34 <Wrothmonk> Thats one way to end a campaign.
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19:16:41 <Steven1> alright back!
19:16:45 <Steven1> so... whats goin on?
19:16:56 <Steven1> nothin eh?
19:17:02 <Steven1> welll that sucks.
19:18:23 <spider21b> hi
19:18:58 <Wrothmonk> hello
19:18:59 <Wrothmonk> ]
19:19:23 <Wrothmonk> I hate it when that happens..
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19:25:00 <spider21b> hum?
19:25:40 <Wrothmonk> oh just when I finish typing, hit enter, and somehow manage to hit a random key and enter /again/
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19:30:59 <spider21b> yea it happens
19:31:17 <spider21b> so school just got out for me so i can play in a few games
19:31:33 <Wrothmonk> cool
19:32:27 <spider21b> i am really exicted to play my level 2 wizard/fighter 1
19:33:58 <Wrothmonk> so why did you decline the true sorcery game if you dont mind me asking?
19:34:03 <Wrothmonk> just not available?
19:34:38 <spider21b> i thought, it wasn't pathfinder
19:35:08 <Wrothmonk> its pathfinder but with a different magic system. Also you're not going to even need a character for the first game.
19:35:16 <spider21b> huh?
19:35:28 <spider21b> oh is it a custom game?
19:35:32 <Wrothmonk> Yup
19:35:39 <spider21b> oh awesome
19:35:52 <spider21b> do i have to make a level one for it?
19:36:53 <Wrothmonk> You dont /have/ to for the first game, but if you can make a 1st level spellcaster to bring that would be great. You can find the details on the rules in the campaign page
19:37:11 <Wrothmonk> the first game is planned on just to test stuff
19:37:29 <Wrothmonk> http://pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=39 heres the campaign page
19:38:17 <spider21b> very cool
19:38:35 <spider21b> so what is the magic system based on?
19:39:52 <Wrothmonk> d20 which is a spinoff of d&d 3.0 is the core rules, but its easily adapted to pathfinder
19:39:57 <Wrothmonk> as*
19:40:48 <spider21b> i see
19:41:07 <spider21b> so like all magic is the same in this right?
19:41:11 <Wrothmonk> Yup
19:41:15 <spider21b> thats a bit annoying though
19:41:27 <spider21b> like clerics and wizards are the same
19:41:28 <Wrothmonk> How so?
19:42:06 <Wrothmonk> not quite, me and falang are working out archetypes which shuffle the spell requirements around.
19:42:34 <Wrothmonk> to separate wizards and clerics a little bit.
19:43:22 <spider21b> i gotcha, but i meant in the D&D version it seems like magic is like freaking avatar the last air bender
19:43:44 <spider21b> also it seems eazyer in this world if i play a ranger or somthing
19:46:04 <Wrothmonk> I suppose it is a bit complicated. As for being the last airbender, take a look at how you actually acquire the spells
19:46:07 <Wrothmonk> they are feats
19:47:09 <Wrothmonk> So its also more limiting on how many spells you can actually cast
19:49:52 <spider21b> well i will sign up for it maybe it will make more sense then
19:54:29 <Brunius> Who are these guys that keep jumping in on mibbit
19:55:36 <Falang> Hmm.
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19:58:15 <Mekkis> yay
19:58:23 <Brunius> One down
19:58:28 <Mekkis> ja
19:59:29 <Mekkis> brunius, you should start a campaign
19:59:40 <Brunius> I've got my hands full with this shit at school man
20:00:53 <Avatar> fucking school
20:00:57 <Avatar> ruining everything
20:01:03 <Avatar> ruining our fun
20:01:14 <Brunius> Oh god I can't imagine next year
20:01:22 <Brunius> Two year 12 subjects this year is doing my head in
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20:01:31 <Avatar> are you in year 12
20:01:34 <Brunius> Although I think the year 11 subjects are actually giving more homework
20:01:40 <Brunius> I'm doing an accelerated program
20:01:43 <Avatar> year 11 and 12 are the same
20:02:11 <Brunius> So we do a mix of the current year and the year ahead
20:02:21 <Brunius> So year 7 we did 7/8 work, 8 did 8/9, etc.
20:02:40 <Brunius> 11 doesn't affect my ATAR
20:02:41 <Avatar> the leap in difficulty is on year 10 to 11, there's no change in 11 to 12
20:02:45 <Brunius> Or whatever they're calling it this week
20:02:48 <Brunius> ENTER score
20:03:01 <Brunius> I didn't notice that much 10 to 11
20:03:14 <Avatar> then you are set
20:03:54 <Brunius> Just slog through this shit for the next 18 months. Oh joy.
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20:08:33 <Mekkis> Avatar, you should run a campaign here. You're risking PFS burnout
20:13:20 <spider21b> u there?
20:14:33 <Steven1> mekkis you should run a campaign here!
20:14:36 <Steven1> oh wait...
20:14:38 <Steven1> damn it!
20:14:38 <Mekkis> I am
20:14:49 * Steven1 goes and gets himself another drink
20:15:10 <Mekkis> Steven1, you should give me some scotch. And a Wayang boon.
20:15:11 <Steven1> wish i still had some rum
20:15:38 <Steven1> no to wayang boon, and i'd be happy to share some scotch with you if you come over to my house.
20:15:53 <Mekkis> is it good scotch?
20:16:16 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you play Shades of Ice III in person?
20:18:14 <Wrothmonk> Hey avatar, I'm having problems formatting the campaign text for true sorcery.
20:18:52 <Wrothmonk> its all just going in a single line of text and spaces, no line breaks or anything
20:20:53 <Steven1> ive got a glenlivet 12 year with about 4-5 drams left
20:21:46 <Steven1> and then i have a dalmore 12
20:22:44 <Steven1> unopened
20:22:47 <Steven1> a gift from my brother.
20:22:58 <Steven1> you show up, and ill uncork it
20:23:16 <Mekkis> what area do you like your scotches from?
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20:23:41 <Steven1> dont really know where the glenlivet comes from, but i like that
20:24:02 <Mekkis> glenlivet's highland iirc
20:24:53 <Steven1> im more of a rum guy, but occationally i like to sit down and pour some scotch
20:25:05 <Steven1> usually when im smoking my pipe
20:25:12 <Proquar> avatar
20:25:32 <Steven1> something about scotch and some good tabacco
20:25:46 <Steven1> and for the dalmore i have, ill go find the website
20:26:11 <Steven1> http://singlecasknation.com/collections/nation-bottlings/products/dalmore-12-pedro-ximenex-finished
20:26:32 <Mekkis> I just drink the Islay malts. Very smoky. No tobacco required.
20:28:01 <Steven1> Brother gave me that for christmas, i put it on a shelf, havent touched it... may open it when my niece is born.
20:28:15 <Steven1> depends if mike's down for a drink afterwards
20:35:31 <Steven1> so avatar, what kind of homebrew/AP you gonna do?
20:38:12 <Mekkis> that's cool. They're doing a remake of Flight of Dragons
20:45:47 <Avatar> what?
20:45:58 <Avatar> the disappeared is a PFS scenario
20:46:04 <Avatar> not homebrew
20:49:06 <Mekkis> would casting Shadow Evocation (deeper darkness) while telepathically communicating to your party that it's an illusion be a "jerk" move?
20:49:28 <Avatar> don't think that helps
20:50:06 <Mekkis> it gives them a +4 to their saves
20:50:56 <Avatar> if I'm in your party and you're about to throw a deeper darkness on me with +4 to my save, I'm gonna kill you
20:51:42 <Mekkis> use html
20:51:56 <Mekkis> begin each paragraph with <p>
20:52:04 <Mekkis> end each paragraph with </p>
20:54:04 <Mekkis> Avatar, why doesn't Buck get a goz mask?
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20:56:53 <Avatar> what is a goz mask
20:57:13 <Mekkis> Steven1, with the Permanent Image spell, does the " By concentrating, you can move the image within the limits of the range" mean that you can keep moving it within Long Range of yourself, or is it based on where you were standing when you cast it?
20:57:35 <Mekkis> A mask that gives you water breathing and the ability to see through fog as though it wasn't there.
20:57:40 <Avatar> that is only a good item if he's travelling with some joker who has a staff of stinking cloud and cloudkill
20:57:49 <Avatar> you should buy some of those for your fellow party members
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21:02:44 <Avatar> buying party members some items to share while you're with them is actually a really great idea all round
21:02:59 <Avatar> especially for items in books they might not have
21:03:41 <Brunius> I didn't think of that book thing
21:04:03 <Avatar> I lent out some spring loaded wrist sheathes the other day
21:04:14 <Avatar> painlord talked about lending out pearls of power
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21:18:40 <Mekkis> what book thing, Brunius?
21:19:32 <Brunius> What avatar said literally the line beforehand
21:19:50 <Brunius> That seems really smart
21:19:51 <Mekkis> oh
21:19:57 <Mekkis> items in books they might not have
21:23:12 <Avatar> carry around a goz mask or 5
21:23:44 <Mekkis> I will. It's on Deceased's shopping list
21:24:51 <Mekkis> what about this: (deceased's shopping list starts with shitloads of potions of delay poison, followed by Staff of Abjuration, followed by Goz Mask)
21:25:48 <Avatar> I want to get an idea of what people's shopping lists look like
21:25:57 <Avatar> because good wondrous items only goes so far
21:26:17 <Mekkis> Mytiazair's shopping list includes a Staff of Many Rays
21:26:46 <Mekkis> Grolschmir's shopping list starts with "Make my lance +3 so I don't need to worry about DR/materials"
21:27:16 <Mekkis> Itzamna's shopping list is "What kind of crazy shit can I find."
21:27:19 <Mekkis> !search random
21:27:22 <diebot> Mekkis, 79 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
21:27:46 <Mekkis> probably one of them
21:28:10 <Avatar> sorry, itzamna's is dumb
21:28:26 <Avatar> and mytiazair's is exactly what I just talked about not trying to look for
21:28:38 <Mekkis> I think Itzamna is powerful enough. No need to spend more money to make him more powerful.
21:28:49 <Avatar> goz masks then
21:29:16 <Mekkis> Heneski will probably get a rod or something
21:29:46 <Avatar> Landruff is level 6 and has 12K and doesn't know what to spend it on
21:29:54 <Mekkis> Kernigahn wants a banner of ancient kings, but I haven't decided whether he'll get that before trying to improve his animal companion
21:30:00 <Avatar> he doesn't have a headband, but he doesn't really need one
21:30:04 <Mekkis> !find Landruff
21:30:08 <Mekkis> your druud?
21:30:09 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=359
21:30:11 <Avatar> yeah
21:30:15 <Avatar> might not be updated on there
21:30:26 <Avatar> pretty close, one scenario off
21:30:50 <Mekkis> you really need to put class level on your sheet
21:31:38 <Avatar> it's there
21:31:44 <Mekkis> where?
21:31:52 <Avatar> up the top
21:31:54 <Mekkis> oh
21:31:57 <Mekkis> under Level
21:32:08 <Avatar> yeah if it's not a multiclass character I don't put it right next to the class
21:34:28 <Mekkis> FYI, reincarnate isn't allowed in PFS
21:35:14 <Avatar> I'm aware
21:35:28 <Mekkis> it's just under your notes for later levels
21:35:48 <Mekkis> you're a frontliner, right?
21:35:54 <Mekkis> and you don't plan on wildshaping?
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21:38:04 <Mekkis> it's a Mort-!
21:38:06 <Mort-> Mekkis
21:38:15 <Mekkis> she's alive!
21:38:24 <Mekkis> Mort-, have you played Impossible Creatures?
21:38:38 <Mort-> No but I'm not here for that
21:41:12 <Mekkis> !item Headband Of Ninjitsu
21:41:14 <diebot> Mekkis, HEADBAND OF NINJITSU [faint abjuration] CL:1 headband 15000gp, 1lb
21:41:15 <diebot> This simple black cloth band focuses the wearer's ki, helping her use subtle misdirection against opponents in combat. The wearer gains a +2 competence bonus on Bluff checks made to feint and combat maneuver checks made to reposition, and once per day she can attempt a feint or reposition maneuver as a swift action. The wearer also gains a +2
21:41:15 <diebot> insight bonus on attack rolls on sneak attacks and can sneak attack creatures with concealment or total concealment, though miss chances apply normally. Source: Ultimate Equipment
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21:45:56 <Mekkis> !item Tremor Boots
21:45:58 <diebot> Mekkis, TREMOR BOOTS [faint divination] CL:5 feet 10000gp, 1lb
21:45:58 <diebot> These brown leather boots have a reinforced toe of steel with grooves along the soles, crafted to help the wearer pick up vibrations from the surrounding environment. These boots grant the wearer tremorsense 20 feet as long as he is standing on solid ground. Source: Ultimate Equipment
21:56:38 <Mekkis> Avatar, do you remember the map that RyanK used for Shades of Ice III?
22:07:43 <Wrothmonk> thanks mekkis
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22:53:40 <Brunius|M> !roll 50d6
22:53:41 <dicebot> Brunius|M, 50d6: [50d6=3,2,4,5,4,5,6,1,3,5,1,3,1,4,6,3,4,6,4,3,1,5,5,4,2,4,5,2,5,2,6,6,5,3,2,5,1,1,2,4,2,1,1,6,4,1,3,4,1,5] 171
22:53:56 <spider21b> hi
22:54:18 <Wrothmonk> The clattering of dice is deafening.
23:02:44 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, no problem. I did an html course 15 years ago...
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23:39:01 <Avatar> nope
23:39:40 <Avatar> my current sheet doesn't have the note for reincarnate
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