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00:19:33 Mort ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
00:19:39 <Mort> hi mekkis you summoned me?
00:19:46 <Mekkis> no.
00:19:50 <Mekkis> but I did email you
00:20:04 <Mort> I know
00:20:16 <Mort> sent you the stuff, do youwant his cell as well?
00:20:20 <Mort> I wil ask him permission
00:20:31 <Mekkis> probably won't be calling him until I make contact first
00:20:40 <Mekkis> how have things been?
00:20:49 <Mort> ok fair enough, if you need you can get me I get you his cell
00:20:55 <Mort> I dont check google mail too regularly though
00:21:00 <Mort> Im in a pbf way of the wicked
00:21:05 <Mort> and my office is moving house
00:21:11 <Mekkis> play by forum?
00:21:14 <Mort> I havent pathfindered much lately, but gmed prince of augustana yesterday
00:21:15 <Mort> yes
00:21:25 <Mort> not yesterday, on firday
00:21:44 <Mekkis> nice. I'm trying out canvas prints of PFS maps!
00:22:50 <Mekkis> maybe I should run Mantis' Prey over there...
00:23:30 <Mekkis> What's your new job?
00:24:00 <Mort> Admin stuff
00:24:03 <Mort> I thin kI lost a d4
00:24:04 <Mort> fk
00:24:08 <Mort> how do I get a new D4.
00:24:54 <Mort> I need to buy a new d4.
00:24:55 <Mekkis> go to a games store and give them 50c
00:24:59 <Mekkis> oh!
00:25:00 <Mekkis> oh!
00:25:02 <Mort> oh ok
00:25:05 <Mort> great suggestion mekkis
00:25:10 <Mort> I shall do it.
00:25:27 <Mekkis> http://www.shapeways.com/model/258062/d4-shell-dice.html?li=productBox-search
00:25:35 <Mekkis> get something like that!
00:26:20 <Mort> I hope ot run master of fallen fortress for my family
00:26:27 <Mort> on this friday. Need to get Dice..
00:27:01 <Mekkis> I should probably stop spending $25 each on gold-plated dice
00:27:06 <Mekkis> but... they're so pretty!
00:27:16 <Mort> I thought I was the only one who was atttracted by shinies
00:27:21 <Mort> m yvc gave me my first die set
00:27:24 <Mort> but I lost my D4 :(
00:29:36 <Mekkis> have you played Mantis' Prey, Mort?
00:30:12 <Mort> no
00:30:17 <Mort> but Im a little busy ofr next few days
00:30:21 <Mort> going for Star Wars RPG on Sat
00:30:30 <Mort> Friday hoping to run master of fallen fortress for family
00:30:34 <Mort> Sundy I thik Ill catch up on sleep
00:30:44 <Mekkis> which edition?
00:30:49 <Mekkis> Saga? Revised? d6?
00:32:03 <Mort> I have no clue
00:32:06 <Mort> I just signed up for it :D
00:32:14 <Mort> becuase they said there are wookies!
00:33:25 <Mekkis> what's your character concept?
00:34:07 <Mort> I have no clue
00:34:12 <Mort> I have no idea what even can be done or not
00:34:18 <Mort> Im possibly tryign to get somethign furry around
00:34:30 <Mort> If not furry, then I want to throw lightning bolts
00:34:41 <Mekkis> last time I played, I played a gambler.
00:35:05 <Mort> I really have no idea..
00:35:05 <Mekkis> My motivation for adventuring was "To find a casino that I haven't been kicked out of"
00:35:05 <Mort> :D
00:35:12 <Mort> hahaha
00:35:20 <Mekkis> it was quite funny. We had three weeks downtime.
00:35:28 <Mort> you got kicked out of 100 casinos?
00:35:37 <Mekkis> The first week I spent on a profession check, getting about 200 credits.
00:35:51 <Mekkis> The next two weeks, I spent at the casino.
00:35:51 <Mort> the 2nd and third week you sepnt evading guards..
00:35:54 <Mort> for cheating at casions?
00:35:56 <Mort> oh lol
00:36:06 <Mort> I thought you used loaded dice..
00:36:17 <Mekkis> The end of the third week, the place we're staying at gets beaten up for not paying protection money.
00:36:37 <Mort> hahahha
00:36:43 <Mekkis> so I'm like, sure. Here's my loose change. 20000 credits enough for you?
00:36:46 <Mort> I thought professional gamblers use loaded dice..
00:36:50 <Mort> lol
00:36:53 <Mort> you gambled so well?
00:36:56 <Mekkis> yeah
00:37:03 <Mort> how doyou gamble in star wars?
00:37:08 <Mort> you're not corrupting lil murs are you?
00:37:11 <Mekkis> you make a Gamble check
00:37:15 <Mort> ok
00:37:18 <Mekkis> iirc DC is 20
00:37:19 <Mort> and how do you gamble?
00:37:22 <Mort> Gambling sounds fun!
00:37:30 <Mekkis> you say "I'll gamble 200 credits"
00:37:31 <Mort> (Murs are easily distracted by any kinds of shinies)
00:37:36 <Mekkis> then you make your gamble check
00:37:37 <Mort> ok
00:37:41 <Mort> and?
00:37:41 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+21 gamble
00:37:43 <diebot> Mekkis, gamble: [1d20=12] 33
00:37:45 <Mort> oh
00:37:56 <Mort> Im surprised the casinoes didnt get people to beat you up
00:37:58 <Mort> for rigging the system
00:38:04 <Mekkis> let me look it up
00:38:14 <Mort> it look like youre using loaded dice
00:38:15 <Mekkis> I think a 33 would give me 3x the amount I bet
00:38:19 <Mort> maybe I could get a gambling wookie?
00:38:24 <Mort> but again wookies cant speak so how do they gamble?
00:38:58 <Mekkis> Friends don't let friends play characters who can't speak
00:39:13 <Mort> but they are the only furries right?
00:39:15 <Hydrazine> Well, obviously humans can learn kyashyyk. If thats even close to how you spell it.
00:39:16 <Mort> I want to be furry..
00:39:34 <Mort> Is it wrong to be furry?
00:39:43 <Mekkis> no
00:39:57 <Mekkis> I'm not sure
00:39:57 <Hydrazine> Only if you're a reptile. Then its just weird.
00:39:59 <Mekkis> it's been ages
00:40:09 <Mort> I hear wookies cant speak but they are furry!
00:40:11 <Mekkis> I think either they can speak, or there are others
00:40:13 <Mort> I like being furry!
00:40:23 <Hydrazine> Jawa?
00:40:26 <Mort> I want to be a furry happy go lucky!
00:44:54 <Mekkis> how easy is it for a foreigner to get a sim card in sg?
00:47:54 <Mort> dont think its too hard
00:48:01 <Mort> walk to da phone sop and say you want one
00:48:15 <Hydrazine> So not as easy as it is in Aus.
00:48:26 <Mort> wuh?
00:48:30 <Mort> we need check IC here
00:48:43 <Mort> Its the Terrorist Thingie
00:48:48 <Hydrazine> You can grab one for $3 at a grocery store in AU.
00:48:55 <Mort> oh no here we need see IC
00:50:33 <Mekkis> ID?
00:51:14 <Mekkis> what's IC?
00:53:07 <Hydrazine> internal communicaions?
00:53:20 <Mekkis> Integrated Circult
00:54:29 <Mort> identity card
00:54:42 <Mekkis> so if I don't have one, I can't get one?
00:54:48 <Mekkis> a sim that is?
00:55:07 <Mort> you can show them your passport I think
00:55:12 <Mort> or maybe I should actually check with the telecom
01:02:25 <Mekkis> Thanks for the email Mort. I should be sleeping now.
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02:48:40 <diebot> Avatar, FLY transmutation ([]) sorcerer/wizard 3, alchemist 3, summoner 3, witch 3, magus 3 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S, F (a wing feather) Duration: 1 min./level Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
02:48:41 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/fly.html
02:48:44 <Falang> no reason you couldn't split the potion, I think there used to be rules for that.
02:48:54 <Avatar> shit
02:49:00 <Avatar> I thought personal was the okay one
02:49:16 <Avatar> that doesn't seem to make much sense
02:49:29 <Mekkis> agreed
02:49:31 <Avatar> I was reading somewhere about how you can't have a potion of shield, which makes sense
02:49:40 <Mekkis> or true strike, iirc
02:51:08 <ShiftKeyGirl> You can't have a potion produce a magical effect! That makes no sense, and has no basis in literature.
02:51:25 <ShiftKeyGirl> It also has no basis in any of other potion examples.
02:51:42 <ShiftKeyGirl> The Potion of Spider Climb allows you to climb walls.... naturally?
02:52:00 <ShiftKeyGirl> Logically?
02:52:16 <ShiftKeyGirl> Whatever.
02:52:33 <Avatar> are you okay
02:52:42 <Mekkis> Should my next character worship Zon-Kuthon or Akeakek?
02:52:50 <Avatar> zon-kuthon
02:53:08 <Brunius> Zon-Kuthon
02:53:29 <Mekkis> how do I play a non-evil sadistic torturer?
02:54:11 <Avatar> you're a sick man
02:55:51 <Mekkis> Maybe Achaekek is better. I can just rephrase all my pathfinder missions as "assassinate this guy"
02:56:07 <Mekkis> and preach to anyone who'll listen the virtues of killing people for money.
03:04:06 <ShiftKeyGirl> > Mekkis how do I play a non-evil sadistic torturer?
03:04:14 <ShiftKeyGirl> I'm trying to come up with a witty put down
03:04:17 <ShiftKeyGirl> But really
03:04:23 <ShiftKeyGirl> It's stupid enough as is
03:06:40 <ShiftKeyGirl> Unless of course you want to make a non-evil follower of Akeakek too
03:06:47 <ShiftKeyGirl> That's also really stupid
03:06:55 <ShiftKeyGirl> Considering that they're a god of assassinations
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03:19:16 <Mekkis> I wonder if I can buy https://www.smartsupplies.com.au/index.cfm?&MenuID=1326
03:31:25 <Mekkis> Avatar, would you like to receive your chronicle sheets printed on canvas?
03:35:09 <Avatar> or would I like to have them in convenient electronic PDF format ?
03:35:14 <Avatar> that is a tough decision
03:56:50 <Mekkis> got a printer working yet?
03:57:26 <Avatar> me? no
03:57:34 <Avatar> royal pain in the ass
03:57:47 <Mekkis> printers?
03:57:53 <Avatar> yeah the printer, not you
03:58:25 <Mekkis> as long as you get a network laser printer, they're generally ok
03:59:03 <Avatar> it's not a laser
03:59:21 <Avatar> shit I don't think it is
03:59:23 <Avatar> I don't know
04:02:23 <Mekkis> the cheap inkjets that are usb-only and cost less that their cartridges are worth about as much as you pay for them
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04:07:02 <Avatar> mine's wireless
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04:27:30 <Mekkis> after studying the stuff for 5 years, I'd recommend to stick with wires whenever possible
05:23:57 <Avatar> it's only been since I reinstalled windows
05:24:00 <Avatar> some driver issue
05:24:05 <Avatar> I think
05:32:20 <Mekkis> ah.
07:37:51 <Avatar> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sameo
07:48:28 <Mekkis> "Part of the player's concept is that your face would look better punched than unpunched. You should at least be willing to hear him out and not be so unflexible that you can't accommodate him. A good DM would understand this and take the punch."
08:45:50 <Wrothmonk> Wow
08:46:46 <Wrothmonk> Thats one way to end a campaign.
09:10:23 <Mekkis> I love how inkscape can take your CPU and rape it
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10:17:26 <Wrothmonk> Hey avatar, I'm having problems formatting the campaign text for true sorcery.
10:18:04 <Wrothmonk> its all just going in a single line of text and spaces, no line breaks or anything
10:20:26 <Mort> hi mekkis you summoned me?
10:20:34 <Mekkis> no.
10:20:38 <Mekkis> but I did email you
10:20:52 <Mort> I know
10:21:04 <Mort> sent you the stuff, do youwant his cell as well?
10:21:08 <Mort> I wil ask him permission
10:21:18 <Mekkis> probably won't be calling him until I make contact first
10:21:27 <Mekkis> how have things been?
10:21:37 <Mort> ok fair enough, if you need you can get me I get you his cell
10:21:42 <Mort> I dont check google mail too regularly though
10:21:48 <Mort> Im in a pbf way of the wicked
10:21:52 <Mort> and my office is moving house
10:21:59 <Mekkis> play by forum?
10:22:02 <Mort> I havent pathfindered much lately, but gmed prince of augustana yesterday
10:22:02 <Mort> yes
10:22:12 <Mort> not yesterday, on firday
10:22:32 <Mekkis> nice. I'm trying out canvas prints of PFS maps!
10:23:38 <Mekkis> maybe I should run Mantis' Prey over there...
10:24:18 <Mekkis> What's your new job?
10:24:47 <Mort> Admin stuff
10:24:51 <Mort> I thin kI lost a d4
10:24:51 <Mort> fk
10:24:55 <Mort> how do I get a new D4.
10:25:41 <Mort> I need to buy a new d4.
10:25:43 <Mekkis> go to a games store and give them 50c
10:25:47 <Mekkis> oh!
10:25:49 <Mort> oh ok
10:25:53 <Mort> great suggestion mekkis
10:25:57 <Mort> I shall do it.
10:26:14 <Mekkis> http://www.shapeways.com/model/258062/d4-shell-dice.html?li=productBox-search
10:26:23 <Mekkis> get something like that!
10:27:08 <Mort> I hope ot run master of fallen fortress for my family
10:27:15 <Mort> on this friday. Need to get Dice..
10:27:48 <Mekkis> I should probably stop spending $25 each on gold-plated dice
10:27:53 <Mekkis> but... they're so pretty!
10:28:03 <Mort> I thought I was the only one who was atttracted by shinies
10:28:09 <Mort> m yvc gave me my first die set
10:28:11 <Mort> but I lost my D4 :(
10:30:24 <Mekkis> have you played Mantis' Prey, Mort?
10:30:59 <Mort> no
10:31:05 <Mort> but Im a little busy ofr next few days
10:31:09 <Mort> going for Star Wars RPG on Sat
10:31:17 <Mort> Friday hoping to run master of fallen fortress for family
10:31:21 <Mort> Sundy I thik Ill catch up on sleep
10:31:31 <Mekkis> which edition?
10:31:37 <Mekkis> Saga? Revised? d6?
10:32:50 <Mort> I have no clue
10:32:53 <Mort> I just signed up for it :D
10:33:01 <Mort> becuase they said there are wookies!
10:34:13 <Mekkis> what's your character concept?
10:34:54 <Mort> I have no clue
10:34:59 <Mort> I have no idea what even can be done or not
10:35:06 <Mort> Im possibly tryign to get somethign furry around
10:35:17 <Mort> If not furry, then I want to throw lightning bolts
10:35:29 <Mekkis> last time I played, I played a gambler.
10:35:52 <Mort> I really have no idea..
10:35:52 <Mort> :D
10:35:52 <Mekkis> My motivation for adventuring was "To find a casino that I haven't been kicked out of"
10:36:00 <Mort> hahaha
10:36:08 <Mekkis> it was quite funny. We had three weeks downtime.
10:36:16 <Mort> you got kicked out of 100 casinos?
10:36:24 <Mekkis> The first week I spent on a profession check, getting about 200 credits.
10:36:38 <Mekkis> The next two weeks, I spent at the casino.
10:36:39 <Mort> the 2nd and third week you sepnt evading guards..
10:36:42 <Mort> for cheating at casions?
10:36:43 <Mort> oh lol
10:36:53 <Mort> I thought you used loaded dice..
10:37:05 <Mekkis> The end of the third week, the place we're staying at gets beaten up for not paying protection money.
10:37:24 <Mort> hahahha
10:37:30 <Mekkis> so I'm like, sure. Here's my loose change. 20000 credits enough for you?
10:37:33 <Mort> I thought professional gamblers use loaded dice..
10:37:37 <Mort> lol
10:37:41 <Mort> you gambled so well?
10:37:44 <Mekkis> yeah
10:37:51 <Mort> how doyou gamble in star wars?
10:37:56 <Mort> you're not corrupting lil murs are you?
10:37:59 <Mekkis> you make a Gamble check
10:38:03 <Mort> ok
10:38:06 <Mekkis> iirc DC is 20
10:38:06 <Mort> and how do you gamble?
10:38:10 <Mort> Gambling sounds fun!
10:38:18 <Mort> (Murs are easily distracted by any kinds of shinies)
10:38:18 <Mekkis> you say "I'll gamble 200 credits"
10:38:24 <Mort> ok
10:38:24 <Mekkis> then you make your gamble check
10:38:28 <Mort> and?
10:38:29 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+21 gamble
10:38:31 <diebot> Mekkis, gamble: [1d20=12] 33
10:38:32 <Mort> oh
10:38:43 <Mort> Im surprised the casinoes didnt get people to beat you up
10:38:45 <Mort> for rigging the system
10:38:52 <Mekkis> let me look it up
10:39:01 <Mort> it look like youre using loaded dice
10:39:03 <Mekkis> I think a 33 would give me 3x the amount I bet
10:39:07 <Mort> maybe I could get a gambling wookie?
10:39:12 <Mort> but again wookies cant speak so how do they gamble?
10:39:46 <Mekkis> Friends don't let friends play characters who can't speak
10:40:00 <Mort> but they are the only furries right?
10:40:03 <Hydrazine> Well, obviously humans can learn kyashyyk. If thats even close to how you spell it.
10:40:03 <Mort> I want to be furry..
10:40:22 <Mort> Is it wrong to be furry?
10:40:30 <Mekkis> no
10:40:44 <Mekkis> I'm not sure
10:40:44 <Hydrazine> Only if you're a reptile. Then its just weird.
10:40:47 <Mekkis> it's been ages
10:40:56 <Mort> I hear wookies cant speak but they are furry!
10:40:59 <Mekkis> I think either they can speak, or there are others
10:41:00 <Mort> I like being furry!
10:41:11 <Hydrazine> Jawa?
10:41:13 <Mort> I want to be a furry happy go lucky!
10:45:41 <Mekkis> how easy is it for a foreigner to get a sim card in sg?
10:48:41 <Mort> dont think its too hard
10:48:48 <Mort> walk to da phone sop and say you want one
10:49:03 <Hydrazine> So not as easy as it is in Aus.
10:49:13 <Mort> wuh?
10:49:18 <Mort> we need check IC here
10:49:30 <Mort> Its the Terrorist Thingie
10:49:35 <Hydrazine> You can grab one for $3 at a grocery store in AU.
10:49:42 <Mort> oh no here we need see IC
10:50:55 <Mekkis> use html
10:51:09 <Mekkis> begin each paragraph with <p>
10:51:16 <Mekkis> end each paragraph with </p>
10:51:21 <Mekkis> ID?
10:52:01 <Mekkis> what's IC?
10:53:54 <Hydrazine> internal communicaions?
10:54:08 <Mekkis> Integrated Circult
10:55:16 <Mort> identity card
10:55:30 <Mekkis> so if I don't have one, I can't get one?
10:55:36 <Mekkis> a sim that is?
10:55:54 <Mort> you can show them your passport I think
10:56:00 <Mort> or maybe I should actually check with the telecom
11:03:12 <Mekkis> Thanks for the email Mort. I should be sleeping now.
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11:40:25 <Mekkis> !item Headband Of Ninjitsu
11:40:27 <diebot> Mekkis, HEADBAND OF NINJITSU [faint abjuration] CL:1 headband 15000gp, 1lb
11:40:28 <diebot> This simple black cloth band focuses the wearer's ki, helping her use subtle misdirection against opponents in combat. The wearer gains a +2 competence bonus on Bluff checks made to feint and combat maneuver checks made to reposition, and once per day she can attempt a feint or reposition maneuver as a swift action. The wearer also gains a +2
11:40:28 <diebot> insight bonus on attack rolls on sneak attacks and can sneak attack creatures with concealment or total concealment, though miss chances apply normally. Source: Ultimate Equipment
11:45:09 <Mekkis> !item Tremor Boots
11:45:11 <diebot> Mekkis, TREMOR BOOTS [faint divination] CL:5 feet 10000gp, 1lb
11:45:11 <diebot> These brown leather boots have a reinforced toe of steel with grooves along the soles, crafted to help the wearer pick up vibrations from the surrounding environment. These boots grant the wearer tremorsense 20 feet as long as he is standing on solid ground. Source: Ultimate Equipment
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13:01:41 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, no problem. I did an html course 15 years ago...
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17:16:43 <Brunius> !rng vriska terezi
17:16:44 <diebot> Brunius, terezi
17:16:48 <Brunius> bad idea, diebot
17:16:57 <Avatar> what is vriska and terezi
17:17:02 <Brunius> characters
17:17:09 <Avatar> elaborate
17:17:25 <Brunius> http://www.mspaintadventures.com
17:17:33 <Avatar> this can't end well
17:17:43 <Brunius> It's only ~7.1k pages long at this point.
17:18:28 <Avatar> did you elaborate on vriska and terezi
17:19:18 <Brunius> that's about page four thousand
17:19:33 <Brunius> Vriska is the cool kid patron troll of john
17:19:40 <Brunius> Who gets him killed in an offshoot timeline
17:19:55 <Brunius> But then dave from that timeline travels back and becomes a sprite and tells John not to do the thing that gets him killed
17:19:57 <Brunius> So that's okay.
17:20:09 <Brunius> She's obsessed with 8, and carries a bunch of d8s around
17:20:37 <Brunius> Terezi is Dave's patron troll, is blind, smells colours, and gets Dave killed in an offshoot timeline.
17:20:44 <Brunius> Seems to be a bunch of needless character death here.
17:20:45 <Brunius> Huh.
17:21:26 <Brunius> Anyway they've each got a symbol from ancient greece and I'm trying to decide which I want printed on a t-shirt
17:22:20 <Avatar> you need to be playing more pathfinder
17:24:22 <Brunius> what why
17:24:32 <Brunius> I'm only 1.1k pages from the end!
17:24:55 <Avatar> what can I say
17:24:56 <Avatar> you just do
17:30:41 <Brunius> Man what did I have going down on thursday
17:30:44 <Brunius> I remember something was
17:31:07 <Mekkis> SOI3?
17:31:25 <Brunius> Pretty sure that wasn't it
17:31:48 <Brunius> Since I've already played that
17:33:28 <Avatar> yeah grolschmir
17:33:46 <Mekkis> yeah
17:33:51 <Mekkis> Grolschmir
17:34:07 <Avatar> that for me is the grolschmir scenario
17:34:31 <Mekkis> I think Delirium's Tangle is the real Grolschmir scenario
17:38:38 <Avatar> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sameo
17:39:48 <Mekkis> !define theorycraft: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pru8&page=4?Mods-Too-EasyHard-Misses-the-Point#157
17:39:49 <diebot> Mekkis, http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pru8&page=4?Mods-Too-EasyHard-Misses-the-Point#157 defined as ??theorycraft
17:42:09 <Avatar> that is a political buzzword
17:46:44 <Mekkis> perhaps, but it's the best way of describing the uninformed rules suggestions that keep cropping up.
17:46:54 <Mekkis> the best method I've found at least...
17:48:19 <Avatar> isn't it a bit hard to know who knows what
17:48:29 <Avatar> I mean not for that kind of thing I guess
17:49:52 <Mekkis> I mean, you know I've put some house-rules in place in WotW, right
17:50:07 <Brunius> Such as
17:50:27 <Mekkis> you can draw a wand as part of movement, as if it were a weapon
17:50:28 <Avatar> the training
17:51:08 <Avatar> can't you actually do that
17:51:17 <Mekkis> not RAW you can't
17:51:33 <Mekkis> it's the main reason why people put wands in spring-loaded wrist sheaths.
17:51:35 <Brunius> Steven says you can't
17:51:35 <Brunius> I say you can.
17:51:38 <Brunius> RAW
17:51:40 <Avatar> Drawing a weapon so that you can use it in combat, or
17:51:40 <Avatar> putting it away so that you have a free hand, requires a move
17:51:40 <Avatar> action. This action also applies to weapon-like objects
17:51:40 <Avatar> carried in easy reach, such as wands.
17:52:00 <Avatar> people put them in spring loaded wrist sheathes to draw them as a swift action
17:52:45 <Mekkis> If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you may
17:52:45 <Mekkis> draw a weapon as a free action combined with a regular
17:52:45 <Mekkis> move.
17:53:10 <Avatar> okay? that's not the same thing
17:53:11 <Mekkis> in the following paragraph, it then only applies to weapons
17:53:38 <Mekkis> So RAW, move action to draw a wand, free action while moving to draw a weapon
17:53:57 <Avatar> that whole section is pretty clearly talking about the same thing
17:54:01 <Mekkis> I'm extending it to allow free action while moving to draw a wand.
17:54:03 <Avatar> do you want it to refer to wands throughout
17:54:15 <Mekkis> I'd rather it's explicit, yes.
17:54:37 <Mekkis> That being said, when I GM, I'll allow it with wands regardless.
17:54:39 <Avatar> jesus man
17:54:55 <Avatar> you have to let go a bit
17:55:12 <Avatar> it's not a house rule, the intent is clear even if it's not 110% precise
17:55:16 <Avatar> that would just be wording in the way
17:57:15 <Mekkis> Avatar, http://paizo.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/search?q=drawing+a+wand+while+moving&what=messageboards
17:57:23 <Mekkis> as you can see, it REALLY isn't clear.
17:58:10 <Brunius> as you can see, plenty of GMs don't allow any flexibility at all.
17:58:29 <Mekkis> as you probably know, PFS GMs are supposed to run things RAW
17:59:43 <Mekkis> I'm trying to remember if I tried doing that when Brock was GMing
17:59:54 <Mekkis> probably not - I was playing a cleric
18:01:41 <Avatar> did you actually read those threads
18:01:53 <Avatar> any argument saying you can't draw on the move is very weak
18:02:00 <Avatar> and there's not many
18:02:02 <Mekkis> yes. There's a lot of flaming to and fro, and no [O]fficial ruling
18:02:22 <Avatar> there isn't a lot of flaming to and fro
18:02:36 <Mekkis> other than "It's best to sharpen the end of the wand so you can call it a 'weapon'"
18:03:33 <Avatar> someone recommends saying that you should say you are drawing an improvised weapon, haha
18:03:53 <Brunius> ha
18:04:04 <Brunius> Remember that first scenario
18:04:16 <Brunius> Where you picked up a sign and smashed it against the wall twice
18:04:24 <Brunius> To get your aim in
18:04:42 <Avatar> that thread has a lot of pointless banter, like hey maybe quick draw can be used to draw anything since anything can be an improvised weapon, etc
18:04:58 <Avatar> the reason that thread is prolonged is for the sake of talking it out to the nth degree
18:05:03 <Avatar> it's pretty damn clear
18:05:21 <Avatar> they've obviously gotten carried away
18:07:10 <Avatar> you may as well say the second sentence where it says
18:07:15 <Avatar> This action also applies to weapon-like objects
18:07:15 <Avatar> carried in easy reach, such as wands.
18:07:26 <Avatar> you could argue "what action are they talking about? they don't specify."
18:17:38 <Brunius> Anyone able to transfer me like six dorra on paypal? I'll pay you back at some point...in scenarios, I guess?
18:17:51 <Mekkis> what for?
18:18:45 <Brunius> buying geeky t-shirts
18:18:58 <Brunius> Uh, four dollars actually
18:19:06 <Brunius> I can't count, apparently
18:24:28 <Avatar> won't your parents give you $4
18:25:35 <Mekkis> US or AUD?
18:26:09 <Avatar> here we go
18:26:14 <Avatar> you'll give him $4 if you make 10c profit
18:26:46 <Brunius> Got it sorted, I think
18:26:56 <Brunius> They can't transfer into paypal for some strange reason
18:30:11 <Mekkis> no. my paypal has $US15 on it for some reason
18:46:37 <Wrothmonk> Wow
18:47:34 <Wrothmonk> Thats one way to end a campaign.
18:54:16 <Avatar> don't lie you want the 10c profit
19:31:23 <Mekkis> do I appear that much of a cheapskate, Avatar?
19:47:49 <Avatar> no you are willing to send chronicle sheets on a canvas
20:18:14 <Wrothmonk> Hey avatar, I'm having problems formatting the campaign text for true sorcery.
20:18:52 <Wrothmonk> its all just going in a single line of text and spaces, no line breaks or anything
20:51:42 <Mekkis> use html
20:51:56 <Mekkis> begin each paragraph with <p>
20:52:04 <Mekkis> end each paragraph with </p>
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21:41:12 <Mekkis> !item Headband Of Ninjitsu
21:41:14 <diebot> Mekkis, HEADBAND OF NINJITSU [faint abjuration] CL:1 headband 15000gp, 1lb
21:41:15 <diebot> This simple black cloth band focuses the wearer's ki, helping her use subtle misdirection against opponents in combat. The wearer gains a +2 competence bonus on Bluff checks made to feint and combat maneuver checks made to reposition, and once per day she can attempt a feint or reposition maneuver as a swift action. The wearer also gains a +2
21:41:15 <diebot> insight bonus on attack rolls on sneak attacks and can sneak attack creatures with concealment or total concealment, though miss chances apply normally. Source: Ultimate Equipment
21:45:56 <Mekkis> !item Tremor Boots
21:45:58 <diebot> Mekkis, TREMOR BOOTS [faint divination] CL:5 feet 10000gp, 1lb
21:45:58 <diebot> These brown leather boots have a reinforced toe of steel with grooves along the soles, crafted to help the wearer pick up vibrations from the surrounding environment. These boots grant the wearer tremorsense 20 feet as long as he is standing on solid ground. Source: Ultimate Equipment
21:48:21 <Mekkis> not send. Print
21:51:49 <Mekkis> 901x507mm
21:52:01 <Mekkis> Avatar, what's the best scenario you've played?
22:07:43 <Wrothmonk> thanks mekkis
22:53:40 <Brunius|M> !roll 50d6
22:53:41 <dicebot> Brunius|M, 50d6: [50d6=3,2,4,5,4,5,6,1,3,5,1,3,1,4,6,3,4,6,4,3,1,5,5,4,2,4,5,2,5,2,6,6,5,3,2,5,1,1,2,4,2,1,1,6,4,1,3,4,1,5] 171
22:54:18 <Wrothmonk> The clattering of dice is deafening.
23:02:44 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, no problem. I did an html course 15 years ago...
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