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00:46:49 <Mekkis> the tanglefoot doesn't increase the CMD
00:46:56 <Mekkis> which is the important part
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03:35:25 <Avatar> w/e, that'll do
03:35:32 <Avatar> just yell em out and I'll put em in
03:35:47 <Avatar> make them slightly more realistic than crossbow or merchant's scale please
03:35:52 <Steven> Bead of Newt Prevention is awesome
03:36:11 <Brunius> That was the first item on
03:36:34 <Steven> yeah, its wicked sweet, saved my ass last weekend from a save or ferret
03:37:21 <Mekkis> what? Lack Of A Crossbow is a very good item
03:37:42 <Brunius> What have you got against crossbows
03:37:46 <Avatar> bead of newt prevention is what inspired this
03:38:00 <Mekkis> they're a waste of actions
03:38:56 <Mekkis> Golembane scarab
03:39:41 <Steven> swarmbane clasp
03:40:09 <Mekkis> Feather Token, Fan
03:40:18 <Mekkis> !item Feather Token, Fan
03:40:23 <diebot> Mekkis, FEATHER TOKEN, FAN [strong conjuration] CL:12 none 200gp, 0lb
03:40:23 <diebot> Each of these items is a small feather that has a power to suit a special need. The kinds of tokens are described below. Each token is usable once. A particular feather token has no specific features to identify it unless its magic aura is viewed-even tokens with identical powers can be wildly different in appearance. Fan: A token that forms a huge
03:40:23 <diebot> flapping fan, causing a breeze of sufficient strength to propel one ship (about 25 mph). This wind is not cumulative with existing wind speed. The token can, however, be used to lessen existing winds, creating an area of relative calm or lighter winds (but wave size in a storm is not affected). The fan can be used for up to 8 hours. It does not
03:40:23 <diebot> function on land. Source: PFRPG Core
03:40:53 <Avatar> don't spam the channel with them
03:40:57 <Avatar> with descriptions
03:41:02 <Mekkis> Feather Token, Sky Hook
03:41:10 <Mekkis> Elixir of Vision
03:41:24 <Mekkis> Feather Token, Tree
03:41:33 <Mekkis> Feather Token, Whip
03:41:39 <Avatar> are these really die hard items mekkis
03:41:50 <Mekkis> feather tokens are good
03:41:57 <Avatar> do you ever carry them
03:42:00 <Mekkis> they're cheap, and situational
03:42:01 <Mekkis> yes
03:42:04 <Avatar> how often
03:42:32 <Mekkis> most of my characters carry a Whip, and Grolschmir carries a tree
03:42:42 <Avatar> sky hook? fan?
03:42:48 <Mekkis> Arjuna and Grolschmir and Kernigahn carry lances
03:43:03 <Mekkis> Deceased, Mytiazair, and Itzamna carry fans
03:43:14 <Mekkis> I think most of them have a sky hook
03:43:17 <Avatar> alright
03:43:35 <Avatar> just checking
03:44:02 <Mekkis> Dream Journal of the Pallid Seer
03:44:04 <Mekkis> obv
03:44:09 <Avatar> ha
03:44:35 <Mekkis> wow...
03:44:40 <Mekkis> Snapleaf
03:44:54 * Mekkis buys one for each of his characters
03:45:16 <Mekkis> that is AMAZING
03:47:03 <Mekkis> Pathfinder pouch
03:48:52 <Mekkis> Why didn't I see Snapleaf before
03:48:53 <Mekkis> ?
03:49:30 <Avatar> is it used up when it's used
03:50:04 <Avatar> it is
03:50:11 <Mekkis> I think so
03:50:17 <Mekkis> it'd be broken if it wasn't
03:50:21 <Mekkis> but even so
03:50:45 <Mekkis> Immediate action invisibility?
03:50:55 <Mekkis> snapleaf WILL save your life
03:51:07 <Avatar> yeah probably
03:52:18 <Brunius> !item snapleaf
03:52:21 <diebot> Brunius, SNAPLEAF [faint transmutation] CL:5 none 750gp, 0lb
03:52:22 <diebot> This crystalline carving looks like a hand-sized tree leaf. It is usually worn around the neck on a strap so it is within easy reach, but can be affixed to a belt or clothing just like a badge. Activating a snapleaf is an immediate action and gives the bearer the benefits of feather fall and invisibility. The duration of the two effects work
03:52:22 <diebot> independently; ending one early does not affect the other. The item cannot be activated to provide just one of these two effects; they are always activated simultaneously. Source: Ultimate Equipment
03:52:48 <Avatar> still no need to spam
03:56:17 <Mekkis> Blood Reservoir Of Physical Prowess?
03:56:51 <Mekkis> feather step slippers
04:25:04 <Mekkis> Chon Chon Elixir
04:26:19 <Mekkis> that can't be PFS legal
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04:42:56 <Avatar> what does the sky hook actually do
04:42:58 <Avatar> creates an anchor?
05:04:48 <Falang> Decanter of Endless water, Eversmoking Bottle, Immovable Rod.
05:05:23 <Falang> a bit pricier than the other things, but infinitely useful.
05:13:25 <N2H4> I always wanted an immovable rod or two.
05:13:50 <N2H4> One of those things I was sure I could find atleast 9001 cool uses for. Never ended up getting one.
05:23:23 <Falang> I want two, you can climb up into the sky with that shit.
05:23:34 <Falang> perfect for securing doors too
05:23:44 <Falang> DC 30 to move it
05:24:40 <Avatar> don't you need 3 to climb up into the sky
05:27:23 <Falang> why? with one in each hand you can just use them like a ladder
05:30:31 <Avatar> what are you going to stand on
05:31:10 <Avatar> or are you making DC 30 climb checks
05:31:52 <Avatar> DC 35 if you want to move at half your speed instead of a quarter
05:34:53 <N2H4> If it was 3, Avatar, how would you move the bottom one?
05:37:27 <Falang> I'm sure you could probably stuff one in a boot and activate it with your toe with some practice ;)
05:42:11 <Avatar> keep it between your feet
05:42:17 <Avatar> and dont' drop it lollllllll
05:52:04 <Steven> so, whats goin on peoples.
05:52:43 <Avatar> what about umm
05:52:49 <Avatar> is it soverign glue that never runs out
05:52:52 <Falang> I think each one supports like.. what was it.. 50,000 lbs. You could build a house in the sky with a couple of them
05:52:58 <Avatar> just glue an immovable rod to your shoe
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06:24:20 <Brunius> This keyboard has the keys so much closer together
06:37:55 <Steven> Avatar, for your list
06:38:03 <Steven> Earth Elemental Belt
06:38:58 <Avatar> keep em coming
06:39:06 <Steven> for anyone who is a front liner, that thing is amazing.
06:39:25 <Brunius> What does it do?
06:39:36 <Steven> "Ah i see you have grappled me." Standard action activate belt. You have now grappled a large sized earth elemental.
06:39:44 <Steven> Who will now fuck your shit up.
06:40:07 <Brunius> ha
06:40:25 <Brunius> Source?
06:40:33 <Brunius> Wait, let me guess....UE
06:40:44 <Avatar> UE is pretty good
06:40:47 <Steven> yup
06:41:05 <Steven> it got a lot of flak when it first came out.
06:41:16 <Steven> but now people are finally starting to find the gems.
06:41:35 <Avatar> yeah it's weird hey
06:41:58 <Steven> honey is buying one
06:42:10 <Steven> just so she can have another mode of travel
06:43:03 <Steven> well that and able to walk into combat
06:44:55 <Avatar> the list is looking pretty damn good
06:45:03 <Steven> oh hey, another good item thats fairly situational
06:45:06 <Steven> the gut stone thing
06:45:35 <Avatar> !item Blood Reservoir Of Physical Prowess
06:45:37 <diebot> Avatar, BLOOD RESERVOIR OF PHYSICAL PROWESS [faint necromancy] CL:3 none 2000gp, 0lb
06:45:37 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/blood_reservoir_of_physical_prowess.html
06:45:40 <Steven> it negates a steak attack
06:45:51 <Avatar> consumable?
06:46:08 <Avatar> mekkis what book is this item in
06:46:29 <Steven> yeah its 800g and negates one sneak attack
06:46:35 <Avatar> look at that, UE
06:46:57 <Avatar> not sure that that is a diehard weapon
06:47:20 <Avatar> the list is becoming pretty polluted
06:47:28 <Steven> um....
06:47:30 <Steven> i dunno
06:47:33 <Steven> high level play
06:47:37 <Falang> where is this list anyway?
06:47:46 <Falang> and is it sorted?
06:47:48 <Avatar> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ant1BdkLaMihdEZYdkdhWUZSMEFNUDBZNEZnQWlCRXc&usp=sharing
06:47:54 <Avatar> it has filters, you can sort it however you like
06:47:57 <Steven> you start running into rogues that can do some crazy shit... like death attacks
06:48:06 <Avatar> that's the idea, I hate knowing I have 3000gp to spend what can I spend it on
06:48:17 <Avatar> this way you can just go sort everything by price
06:48:33 <Avatar> or sort adventuring gear by price
06:48:45 <Avatar> or sort adventuring gear from these books by price
06:48:54 <Falang> oh. wow.
06:48:57 <Avatar> let me know if you want write access and I'll add your email
06:49:12 <Falang> I'm fine with just suggesting things, I hate spreadsheets
06:49:22 <Steven> got a bead of force on there?
06:49:56 <Steven> !item bead of force
06:49:58 <diebot> Steven, BEAD OF FORCE [moderate evocation] CL:10 none 3000gp, 0lb
06:49:58 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/bead_of_force.html
06:50:00 <Avatar> a bead of force is absolutely not a diehard item
06:50:08 <Steven> I disagree.
06:50:18 <Avatar> cmon
06:50:24 <Avatar> your reputation just dropped a notch steven
06:50:56 <Falang> Interesting. I'll dig through it later, need to do some shopping before friday..
06:51:00 <Steven> I have seen them used to an amazing effect.
06:51:17 <Falang> 3k is a lot for a consumable anyway, screw that.
06:51:38 <Avatar> a lot for a consumable, even at high levels, especially for only 5d6 reflex half
06:52:04 <Falang> Avatar, you have Mithral in here twice.
06:52:07 <Falang> it's doubled.
06:52:25 <Avatar> it's in there for each thing it can be applied to
06:52:30 <Avatar> because the price is different
06:52:46 <Falang> oh. I was gonna say.
06:52:50 <Falang> gotcha.
06:53:06 <Steven> if you dont want to believe the amazingness of that item, okay, but trust me, its amazing
06:53:43 <Avatar> why is it amazing
06:53:52 <Falang> one shot sphere of force is it not?
06:54:50 <Steven> sphere of force that unless you have dispell magic, disintegration, or a rod of cancelation you cant get out of.
06:55:08 <Falang> so just like any sphere of force.
06:55:16 <Falang> what about teleportation or DD?
06:55:45 <Avatar> how much is the spell to cast
06:56:14 <Falang> wow, those gloves of reconnaissance are sweet, i'll be getting some of those!
06:56:19 <Avatar> 700gp
06:56:26 <Avatar> is this a joke steven
06:56:26 <Falang> perfect for a scout
06:56:50 <Avatar> yeah gloves of recon are great
06:57:06 <Avatar> just got to remember you can't stick your head through and look off to the sides
07:06:48 <Avatar> shoes of lightning leaping are listed on d20pfsrd as an eyes slot item
07:15:16 <Falang> Who am I to question Paizo?! ;)
07:15:55 <Avatar> paizo didn't put it there
07:17:47 <Steven> they are super fun
07:18:13 <Steven> Honey has Boots of Lightning leaper and an Unfettered shirt so she can get out of grapples.
07:18:23 <Steven> they both belong on that list of yours
07:18:55 <Avatar> maybe you should look at the list and find they are both there
07:19:13 <Steven> why would i waste my time lookin at the list? thats just crazy talk man
07:19:23 <Avatar> or is it
07:19:39 <Steven> totaly is
07:21:12 <Avatar> what book is comfort armor in
07:27:04 <Steven> field guide
07:40:03 <Avatar> trust Proquar
07:42:53 <Steven> never trust proquar
07:44:38 * Proquar hangs her head in shame
07:44:40 <Proquar> I know, right
07:46:48 <Avatar> man
07:47:03 <Avatar> reread how you can combine alchemical components with spells in adventurer's armory to make them more potent
07:47:14 <Avatar> some of them are pretty amazing, even for consumable material components
07:47:48 <Avatar> Black Tentacles (M): For each tanglefoot bag used as a
07:47:48 <Avatar> power component, you may reroll the tentacles’ grapple
07:47:48 <Avatar> check against one creature of your choice
07:52:58 <Proquar> i did come online to apologize, avatar.... was very keen to play on friday...
07:53:18 <Proquar> but my friend's dog died (got attacked by another dog) and she wants to do chinese, and i don't have the heart to say no
07:53:24 <Proquar> or 'rain check'
07:53:25 <Proquar> even
07:55:10 <Avatar> s'all good
07:59:59 <Steven> i dunno... could be worthwhile, could also be complete shit
08:00:07 <Steven> i mean the tanglefoot
08:00:31 <Steven> could also be the case with the chinese
08:53:56 <Proquar> heh
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10:47:34 <Mekkis> the tanglefoot doesn't increase the CMD
10:47:41 <Mekkis> which is the important part
11:02:48 <Falang> *yawn*
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12:41:00 <Mort-> !throw 7d6
12:41:00 <diebot> Mort-, 7d6: [7d6=5,4,4,5,4,6,6] 34
12:41:11 <Mort-> !throw 1d6+5
12:41:13 <diebot> Mort-, 1d6+5: [1d6=1] 6
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14:08:34 <Mort-> !throw 14d6
14:08:34 <diebot> Mort-, 14d6: [14d6=1,5,3,1,2,3,5,5,2,4,2,3,4,2] 42
14:08:41 <Mekkis> hey Mort- !
14:08:55 <Mort-> Yes mekkis?
14:09:04 <Mekkis> you exist!
14:09:08 * Mort- waves happily
14:09:24 <Mort-> I do of course but i have been so busy
14:09:32 <Mekkis> work?
14:09:33 <Mort-> Pfs every day of the week
14:09:37 <Mekkis> wow
14:09:42 <Mort-> Well.
14:09:52 <Mort-> You get my drift
14:10:02 <Mort-> Tomorrow more pfs!
14:10:07 <Mort-> Yesterday was pfs!
14:10:12 <Mort-> Sat is more pfs!
14:10:24 <Mort-> Sunday more pfs!
14:10:32 <Mekkis> have you played with Proquar?
14:10:40 <Mekkis> I think you'd enjoy a session with her.
14:10:52 <Mort-> *grins sheepishly*
14:10:56 <Mort-> Who that
14:11:09 <Mort-> I was a tengu yesterday!
14:11:20 <Mort-> And ill be a human tomorrow!
14:11:24 <Mekkis> Tengu
14:11:25 <Mekkis> really?
14:11:34 <Mort-> And a aasimar on sat!
14:11:35 <Mort-> Yeah
14:12:07 <Mekkis> how many characters do you have now?
14:12:21 <Mort-> 12
14:12:23 <Mekkis> and are you running out of scenarios yet?
14:12:24 <Mort-> 2 dead
14:12:35 <Mort-> Probably :(
14:12:43 <Mort-> I need to gm more.
14:12:52 <Mekkis> YES!
14:12:54 <Mekkis> YOU DO!
14:12:57 <Mort-> Now there is a lack of space to gm locally
14:13:15 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
14:13:20 <Mekkis> too many GMs?
14:13:25 <Mekkis> not enough table space?
14:14:07 <Mort-> Not enough places to host games
14:14:10 <Mort-> We are hosting at peoples houses
14:14:20 <Mekkis> ah
14:14:32 <Mekkis> have your parents become more supportive yet?
14:14:41 <Mort-> No.
14:14:55 <Mort-> I've gotten slapped with a pfs ban on week days instead :(
14:15:05 <Mort-> Once i start on the new job
14:15:10 <Mekkis> new job?
14:15:20 <Mort-> Yeah i got retrenchdd.
14:15:27 <Mekkis> so you got a package?
14:15:33 <Mort-> Now I'm getting a new job. No pfs on week days :(
14:15:42 <Mort-> No because i was on contract
14:16:01 <Mekkis> ah
14:16:06 <Mekkis> what's the new job like?
14:16:15 <Mort-> Accounting
14:16:21 <Mort-> More numbers
14:16:36 <Mort-> My local dudes loved master of fallen fortress though
14:16:52 <Mekkis> cool
14:17:09 <Mort-> The monk even skinned snapjaw for a jacket like the white one in asasins creed
14:17:32 <Mort-> Then they went on the whole thing of a picnibj
14:17:45 <Mort-> Spider on lance.
14:17:58 <Mort-> Fried and lacerated bats
14:18:06 <Mort-> Frog sashimh
14:19:10 <Mort-> Sashimi.
14:19:20 <Mekkis> fort save vs disease
14:19:23 <Mort-> They had shocking lizard jerky
14:19:34 <Mort-> Lol
14:19:38 <Mort-> I'm not evil
14:20:08 <Mort-> If they want to nom its ok.
14:21:03 <Mekkis> fair enough
14:21:33 <Mort-> :)
14:22:32 <Mort-> I wrote on the monks cronicle sheet. 1 white crocodile hide jacket with hood. Poor snapjaw. He died to make it
14:24:42 <Mekkis> time to see if my 15-year-old portable printer works
14:25:00 <Mort-> Wee
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15:46:16 <Mekkis> !spell jester's jaunt
15:46:27 <diebot> Mekkis, JESTER'S JAUNT conjuration (teleportation[]) bard 3 1 standard action Range: touch one living creature Comp: V, S Duration: instantiations Save: Will negates SR:yes
15:46:28 <diebot> You teleport the target to a space you can see within 30 feet of the target. The destination must be on solid ground, and the teleportation cannot end in a space that is by nature hazardous to the creature you are teleporting.
16:02:44 <Mekkis> Every time someone starts an "attack PCs when they're down" thread, Avatar brings up the mastiff
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16:31:43 <poundpuppy30> hello
16:31:49 <Mekkis> hej'
16:31:51 <poundpuppy30> anyone here?
16:32:08 <poundpuppy30> hey ive a question, what is the best monk/race combo to play
16:32:24 <Mekkis> there is no real answer to that
16:32:38 <Mekkis> the one that fits with your concept the most
16:33:00 <poundpuppy30> which combo does most damage and is hardest to hit?
16:33:10 <Mekkis> drow noble
16:33:19 <poundpuppy30> i mean they use wisdom to adjust their ac right and not dex
16:33:28 <Mekkis> they use both
16:33:35 <poundpuppy30> both?
16:33:38 <Mekkis> yeah
16:33:44 <Mekkis> they add wisdom to their AC
16:33:47 <poundpuppy30> i just had a gm tell me they use wisdom and it replaces their dex
16:33:50 <Mekkis> in addition to dex
16:34:38 <Mekkis> then that would be an house rule
16:35:24 <poundpuppy30> but in pfs they get dex and wisdom?
16:35:30 <Mekkis> yes
16:35:48 <poundpuppy30> ok so which race in pfs gives dex and wisdom bonus
16:35:59 <poundpuppy30> that can be used as a player race
16:36:01 <Mekkis> and if you approach PFS with the "how do I do the most damage and have the highest ac" mentality, don't be surprised if people call you a cheesemonkey
16:36:11 <Mekkis> You cheesemonkey.
16:36:16 <poundpuppy30> lol
16:36:45 <poundpuppy30> you mean like those people who play a magus and do almost 70 hp damage with their attacks?
16:36:52 <Mekkis> sure
16:37:24 <poundpuppy30> so there is other combos that do insane damage too
16:37:34 <Mekkis> there are ways
16:38:03 <Mekkis> turns out that two-handed weapon + power attack + 18 strength already does Enough Damage though
16:38:22 <poundpuppy30> how much does that do
16:38:39 <Mekkis> 2d6+9 at first level is easy to achieve
16:38:58 <Mekkis> that will knock over 80% of opposition you'll find
16:39:18 <poundpuppy30> i saw a person do 70 tonight with a weapon they were like level 7 i think
16:39:58 <poundpuppy30> they did some charge and messed a mob up with like 70 damage , sure 2 od it came from a bard but other 68 came from them
16:40:39 <Mekkis> crit?
16:40:58 <poundpuppy30> dont think he crit
16:41:12 <poundpuppy30> he had like 4-5 dice for damage
16:41:29 <Mekkis> mounted charge?
16:41:40 <poundpuppy30> on floot
16:41:54 <poundpuppy30> not sure if he was a barbarian or fighter
16:42:04 <Mekkis> I imagine it can be done
16:42:46 <poundpuppy30> do you know which races give 2 to dex, and 2 to wisdom?
16:42:59 <poundpuppy30> or that a heritage thing
16:43:02 <Mekkis> not off the top of my head
16:43:18 <Mekkis> keep in mind that a monk needs strength too
16:43:26 <poundpuppy30> is trip a feat or a normal type of attack?
16:43:31 <Mekkis> no
16:44:01 <poundpuppy30> i heard someone say that monks can chance one of their furry attacks for a trip and basically keep their opponent flat footed or on the ground
16:44:07 <poundpuppy30> change
16:45:06 <Mekkis> Trip is a combat maneuver that can be used in place of a melee attack
16:45:15 <poundpuppy30> i see
16:45:15 <Mekkis> you should read chapter 8 of the Core Rulebook
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16:54:53 * Steven waves lazily!
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16:55:16 <Mekkis> Brunius!
17:05:11 <poundpuppy30> ok i read some of chapter 8
17:05:39 <poundpuppy30> question a monks unarmed strike only does nonlethal damage if he doesnt have the improved unarmed strike feat?
17:06:15 <Mekkis> if you're playing a monk, I'd strongly recommend reading the "Monk" section of chapter 3
17:06:46 <Mekkis> specifically:
17:06:48 <Mekkis> Unarmed Strike: At 1st level, a monk gains Improved
17:06:48 <Mekkis> Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat. A monk’s attacks may be
17:06:48 <Mekkis> with fist, elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk
17:06:48 <Mekkis> may make unarmed strikes with his hands full. There is
17:06:48 <Mekkis> no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking
17:06:48 <Mekkis> unarmed. A monk may thus apply his full Strength bonus
17:06:48 <Mekkis> on damage rolls for all his unarmed strikes.
17:06:48 <Mekkis> Usually a monk’s unarmed strikes deal lethal damage,
17:06:48 <Mekkis> but he can choose to deal nonlethal damage instead with
17:06:48 <Mekkis> no penalty on his attack roll. He has the same choice to
17:06:48 <Mekkis> deal lethal or nonlethal damage while grappling.
17:15:27 <poundpuppy30> what is this combo I just found on the piazo website ? Zen Archer monk human.
17:15:41 <Mekkis> poundpuppy30, stop
17:15:49 <Mekkis> don't download builds
17:15:51 <Mekkis> it's bad
17:16:07 <Mekkis> you end up not playing your own character
17:16:13 <Mekkis> and not understanding anything about it
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17:18:33 <Avatar> Mekkis: why is that special
17:18:41 <Mekkis> what?
17:18:44 <Avatar> the monk thing
17:19:06 <Mekkis> what monk thing?
17:19:19 <Avatar> the one you pasted like 12 minutes ago
17:19:24 <Avatar> that you strongly recommended we read
17:19:27 <Mekkis> it isn't
17:19:32 <Avatar> have you forgotten about it already
17:19:37 <Avatar> then why are you recommending it
17:19:46 <Mekkis> it was answering poundpuppy30's question
17:19:56 <poundpuppy30> ok i found it on the web seems its an archer type monk who converted his furry of blows into shooting arrows from a bow so he gets insane number of attacks per day and get a perfect strike 1/level/day and 1 extra per 4 levels that he is
17:20:02 <Avatar> oh
17:20:05 <Avatar> derrr tony
17:20:18 <Mekkis> and I was recommending him to read the section of the core rules regarding to his class
17:20:48 <Mekkis> poundpuppy30, capital letters, commas, and full stops are your friend.
17:21:05 <poundpuppy30> oh my god if two monks flank you they could literally keep tripping you so you never get up off your back
17:21:23 <poundpuppy30> and kill you will you down
17:22:18 <Avatar> that's not possible
17:22:30 <poundpuppy30> whats not?
17:22:30 <Mekkis> it is
17:22:34 <Avatar> how
17:22:43 <Mekkis> readied action to trip
17:22:53 <Mekkis> one monk could do that
17:23:00 <Mekkis> one fighter could do that
17:23:09 <Avatar> yeah I guess that could work
17:25:29 <poundpuppy30> and two monks at opposite sides of a doorway with combat reflexes and high dex could basically hold off several attackers since each monk would get an attack of opportunity on each person entering thru the doorway
17:25:47 <Mekkis> possibly
17:26:58 <Avatar> if said characters are stealthed
17:27:04 <Avatar> you keep calling them monks but any character can do that
17:27:30 <Avatar> I've got an archaeologist (a bard archetype) that specialises in trip that could do it
17:27:41 <Avatar> except he can also cast spells.
17:28:13 <Mekkis> and wear armour
17:28:15 <poundpuppy30> yeah but monks get furry of blows so one attack of each can be a trip for the first thing i was talking about and as for the door each monk gets an dattack of opportunity and ones that happens its trip time and bodies stack at the doorway
17:28:26 <Mekkis> you can't flurry as an AoO
17:28:31 <Mekkis> and poundpuppy30
17:28:37 <Mekkis> PLEASE punctuate.
17:29:21 <poundpuppy30> You can trip as your attack though.
17:29:37 <Mekkis> sure. Where does flurry of blows come into this?
17:29:53 <poundpuppy30> next round two monks get flurry of blows on you
17:30:17 <Mekkis> how is this different from having two fighter full-attack you?
17:30:22 <poundpuppy30> dont you have to spend an action getting up?
17:30:28 <Mekkis> or two roc-riding gnomes charging you?
17:32:13 <Mekkis> You don't need to spend an action getting up if you don't need to get up...
17:32:56 <poundpuppy30> Doesn't being on your back make you ac easier to hit?
17:33:07 <Mekkis> it does...
17:33:45 <Steven> dont cave to their demands puppy! refuse to punctuate
17:33:53 <Steven> I BELIEVE IN YOU!
17:34:10 <Mekkis> Steven, you've used more capital letters there that poundpuppy30 has used so far today!
17:34:33 * Steven shrugs
17:34:44 <Steven> im goint to the store, i want a coke
17:35:12 <poundpuppy30> so can't a stunned person be killed by cupe degrad?
17:35:28 <Mekkis> isn't your answer in Chapter 8?
17:36:09 <poundpuppy30> im jusmping around the book, just read stunning fist
17:36:18 <poundpuppy30> jumping
17:39:43 <poundpuppy30> lol omg pages 560's rock. Standing provokes an attack of opportunity
17:40:50 <poundpuppy30> stun is in the back on page 568 and cant coupe them
17:45:40 <poundpuppy30> lol i found that section from the old ad&d days where a band of kobolds can take down a high level person by aiding each other in grapples
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17:56:51 <Avatar> that's how it should be
17:57:08 <Avatar> none of this I'm neo watch me fly bs
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18:20:46 <MekkisScreen> avatar: I got a portable printer
18:20:57 <MekkisScreen> I should add it to my PFS kit
18:23:50 <Avatar> aren't all printers portable
18:24:28 <Falang> Certainly not. The high end corporate printers are barely movable!
18:25:49 <MekkisScreen> my A0 plotter isn't easy to move outside of its room
18:27:21 <MekkisScreen> by 'portable' I mean 'can run off 8x AA batteries'
18:27:37 <MekkisScreen> and fit in a laptop bag
18:28:16 <Brunius> That's actually pretty cool
18:28:23 <Brunius> Am I to take it that you're employed now?
18:28:37 <MekkisScreen> not yet
18:28:46 <Brunius> If you're spluring on h1gh t3ch g4dg3ts
18:28:51 <MekkisScreen> I found it while cleaning my room
18:28:54 <Brunius> splurging even
18:28:55 <Brunius> Ha
18:29:12 <MekkisScreen> it's like 15 years old
18:29:58 <MekkisScreen> canon BJ10e if you want to know
18:31:33 <MekkisScreen> modified
18:31:49 <MekkisScreen> usb to parallel cable, for starters
18:49:27 * Steven is pretty bored
18:49:53 <kapow> mekk on here
18:50:57 <Falang> oh wow, I think I've used one of those myself.
18:51:32 <Falang> back in the mid 90's, maybe 96 or so.
18:51:55 <Falang> boss at the computer shop wanted us to be able to print invoices onsite for service calls.
19:19:19 <Steven> i cant find anything i wanna watch.
19:27:17 <Brunius> Fringe
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19:38:23 <andrey> have we started yet?
19:38:34 <andrey> oh wait time zones
19:40:09 <Brunius> Started what
19:40:53 <Brunius> You're about a day too early if you want the next PFS game
19:58:27 <Avatar> yeah, tomorrow
19:58:33 <Avatar> tomorrow, half an hour ago
19:58:38 <Avatar> so you would have been late
19:58:48 <Avatar> you want to be here about half an hour before the game starts
19:58:56 <Avatar> so we can prep and get going by 7.30
19:59:00 <Avatar> not get here at 7.30 and then prep
20:15:10 <andrey> yeah, I had an internet outahe
20:15:46 <Falang> what's the roster looking like for that anyway, levelwise?
20:15:55 <Falang> am I going to survive?
20:23:31 <Avatar> are you waiting on an answer instead of checking yourself
20:24:14 <Falang> I'm not sure :)
20:25:58 <Brunius> 3/5/5/?/3/Ulzef
20:26:11 <Brunius> Probably low tier, then
20:27:06 <kapow> mekk having dinner
20:27:09 <kapow> then will be around
20:27:40 <kapow> avatar is tomorrows game an hour and a half ago from now?
20:27:52 <kapow> or an hour?
20:28:01 <Brunius> 7:30pm AEST
20:55:44 <Falang> okay..
21:03:32 <Falang> *yawn*
21:48:05 <Avatar> kapow when did you go to america to not be able to tell australian time
21:51:23 <Mekkis> ok
21:54:53 <Mekkis> "I'm afraid that all too
21:54:53 <Mekkis> often when people see "windows" they assume a "well-designed,
21:54:53 <Mekkis> user-friendly, programmer-friendly, fast, arbitrarily sophisticated"
21:54:53 <Mekkis> window system rather than a sort of ad hoc, semi-unprogrammable, slow
21:54:53 <Mekkis> window package."
21:55:38 <Mekkis> Guess the year
22:01:36 <Avatar> 1983
22:02:10 <Mekkis> what information did you use to help you come to that conclusion?
22:03:19 <Avatar> a hunch
22:03:40 <Mekkis> fair enough
22:03:42 <Mekkis> you're correct
22:03:53 <Mekkis> you win:
22:03:55 <Mekkis> 20% of
22:03:58 <Mekkis>
22:04:01 <Mekkis> nothing.
22:04:24 <Avatar> I bet it also complains about how difficult it is to copy text onto the clipboard and then paste it into another file
22:04:58 <Mekkis> I bet it doesn't. Mainly because the clipboard probably didn't exist
22:05:40 <Avatar> did windows
22:05:43 <Mekkis> no
22:05:58 <Avatar> the what is it talking about
22:06:37 <Mekkis> the Apple Lisa had just been announced.
22:06:51 <Brunius> the what
22:07:07 <Mekkis> OOH
22:07:11 <Mekkis> you're right Avatar!
22:07:20 <Mekkis> There are window systems with very good programming interfaces but
22:07:20 <Mekkis> poor user interfaces. E.g. you can create and control windows of
22:07:20 <Mekkis> numerous kinds and shapes from a program -- unfortunately, if you have
22:07:20 <Mekkis> 2 window oriented applications on the screen at the same time, the
22:07:20 <Mekkis> user can't pick text from one window and put it in the other;
22:08:19 * Mekkis hands Avatar the other 80% of the nothing.
22:09:52 <Mekkis> !find Raine
22:09:54 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=635
22:11:30 <kapow> okay i am around now
22:11:33 <kapow> looks like you are too
22:11:36 <Mekkis> I am
22:11:47 <kapow> will brb in 2 minutes and we'll take care of business?
22:12:00 <Mekkis> ok
22:20:30 <kapow> back
22:20:59 <kapow> avatar i am better at telling time in america and the uk and places like that than i am timezones within aus
22:21:00 <kapow> XP
22:24:33 kapow is now known as Raine
22:27:00 <Falang> quiet in here
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22:55:47 <Mort-> Hi all
22:56:27 <Mekkis> hi
22:56:49 * Mort- pokes falang
22:56:56 <Mort-> I won that duel btw.
22:56:58 * Mekkis prods Mort-
22:57:09 <Mort-> Wanted to tell falang
22:57:16 <Mort-> Ouch!
22:58:01 <Mort-> Hi mekkis
22:58:21 <Mort-> I have 1 game tomorrow and 2 games on sat!
22:58:31 <Mekkis> what's the appeal of the magus?
22:58:58 <Mort-> Because i never run out of things to do!
22:59:17 <Mort-> I have witch hexes with more durability then a witch
22:59:43 <Mort-> I don't have to worry about people killing my familiar to deny me of my spell book
22:59:50 <Mort-> I can cast enlarge person like a wizard
23:00:01 <Mort-> I can even fly and melee if i want to
23:00:19 <Mekkis> hn
23:01:38 <Mort-> I don't have to worry so much about squishy caster syndrome. I spout 6 more mes when I'm threatened and i zap like an electric eel if annoyed
23:02:25 <Mekkis> what's squishy caster syndrome?
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23:04:32 <Mort-> Oops
23:04:45 <Mekkis> what's squishy caster syndrome?
23:05:32 <Mort-> Casties when threatened by melee things are squishy
23:05:46 <Mort-> They spend their first round wding out of the way
23:06:32 <Mekkis> none of my characters do that
23:06:39 <Mekkis> that's a criminal waste of actions
23:06:57 <Mort-> It is but you have to make defensive concentration check to cast
23:07:13 <Mekkis> or 5'
23:07:13 <Mort-> 5 ft sometimes doesn't get you far enough
23:07:25 <Mekkis> I prefer using a spell trigger item
23:07:28 <Mekkis> no AoO
23:07:41 <Mort-> I don't have good wands
23:07:45 <Mort-> Just have cheap ones :(
23:07:47 <Mekkis> then you have concealment due to "Them Being In A Stinking Cloud"
23:07:52 <Mekkis> Staves
23:07:53 <Mekkis> not wands
23:07:58 <Mort-> And no staffs
23:08:05 <Mort-> I don't have it
23:08:09 <Mort-> Its 32600 gp now
23:08:17 <Mort-> I didn't have gp when it was 13600
23:08:53 <Mekkis> or concealment due to Greater Invisibility
23:09:22 <Mort-> Is ring of spell storing spell trigger?
23:10:09 <Mekkis> !item ring of spell storing
23:10:17 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF SPELL STORING [moderate evocation] CL:9 ring 50000gp, 0lb
23:10:17 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/ring_of_spell_storing.html
23:10:54 <Mort-> Just tell me yes or no.
23:10:59 <Mekkis> I don't know
23:11:05 <Mort-> I read it and didn't understand
23:11:07 <Mort-> Haha
23:11:13 <Mort-> *high fives*
23:11:25 <Mekkis> ah
23:11:29 <Mekkis> Activation: A ring’s ability is usually activated by a spoken
23:11:29 <Mekkis> command word (a standard action that does not provoke
23:11:29 <Mekkis> attacks of opportunity) or its effects work continually. Some
23:11:29 <Mekkis> rings have unusual activations, as mentioned in the ring’s
23:11:29 <Mekkis> specif ic description.
23:11:34 <Mort-> Do you make a concentration check to cast while threatened?
23:11:47 <Mort-> Oh!
23:11:55 <Mort-> Thanks mekkis!
23:12:02 * Mort- hugs mekkis
23:12:06 <Mekkis> no problem
23:12:25 <Mort-> You're not embarassed?
23:12:36 <Mekkis> nope
23:12:55 <Mekkis> it's not like you're urinating on my like some lemurs do
23:13:20 <Mort-> Oh ok! I'm toilet trained
23:14:59 <Mort-> Mort is going out for an adventure tomorrow
23:15:04 <Mort-> Oooh
23:15:06 <Mort-> Sorry on sat
23:15:49 <Mekkis> oh no
23:15:56 <Mort-> Its a 7-11 and I'm getting nervous!
23:16:02 <Mekkis> Mort's going to retire before any of my characters do!
23:16:49 <Mort-> Oh!
23:17:10 <Mort-> The locals all want to see the mysterious elf wizard mort
23:17:26 <Mort-> I've been pulling local arses out of the fire
23:17:50 <Mekkis> She should meet up with her mentor, Mytiazair once more before she retires....
23:18:03 <Mort-> Probably won't happen
23:18:10 <Mort-> Has he changed?
23:18:16 <Mekkis> yes
23:18:23 <Mekkis> he FINALLY has Magical Knack!
23:18:35 <Mort-> Worshipping who?
23:18:39 <Mekkis> Desna!
23:19:36 <Mort-> Desna = head up in clouds?
23:19:37 <Mort-> Why did she let ravenmoor happen :(
23:19:39 <Mort-> My respect for her fell after that
23:20:09 <Mekkis> Mytiazair didn't know about that
23:20:24 <Raine> Mekkis we missed you in combat last night :/
23:20:30 <Mort-> We fixed things..
23:20:33 <Raine> we had nothing that could hit all the flying things XP
23:20:33 <Mort-> What lol
23:20:35 <Raine> it was painful
23:20:46 <Mekkis> he needed to atone and the cleric was persuasive
23:20:55 <Mort-> Oh dear. Didn't your mom tell you to bring a longbow?
23:21:14 <Mort-> Or grow a pair of bat like wings?
23:21:28 <Mort-> Btw my vc decided my wings are bat like and not feathery
23:21:42 <Mekkis> oh?
23:21:55 <Mekkis> you mean you've started blood eagling people?
23:22:09 <Mort-> Ya. I asked him how did my wings look like
23:22:15 <Mort-> He said like my bat familiar
23:23:34 <Mort-> So bat like wings
23:25:50 <Mekkis> so he thinks you're evil!?
23:26:16 <Raine> ate 2 fireballs to block off and aoe 10-15 spitting margoyles
23:26:21 <Raine> We spent pretty much the entire encounter with me blocking the entrance to the cave and using the few aoe spells we had left on me and everything i was fighting XP
23:27:53 <Mort-> Wtf?
23:28:00 <Mort-> What level was that
23:28:10 <Mekkis> sorry about that
23:28:28 <Mekkis> see how important it is to have a bard in the party
23:28:32 <Mort-> No. He doesn't think I'm dusk
23:28:32 <Mort-> Evil
23:28:58 <Mort-> Bats have bat like wings and are not evil
23:29:31 <Raine> 9/10 mort
23:29:57 <Raine> and now we are 50/50 at 9/10 mekk
23:30:03 <Raine> so if you die it's lvl 10 entry
23:30:06 <Mort-> Why?
23:30:14 <Mort-> Oh
23:30:33 <Mekkis> I'm actually getting a little bored of playing Arjuna
23:31:39 <Raine> Owen brought in a rogue :/
23:32:30 <Raine> it turns out though now that lance, david and I all have Greatsword weilding fighters as our backup characters
23:32:44 <Raine> or in my case the choice of one as
23:33:13 <N2H4> Greatswords and fighters! Its like the peanut butter and jelly of D&D.
23:33:22 <Raine> despite eating 2 fireballs 1 save 1 fail and like 30 attacks i still didn't die :/
23:33:28 Raine is now known as kapow
23:33:46 <kapow> granted i didn't get hit at all by any of the attacks
23:33:56 <Mekkis> you going to fnm tomorrow?
23:33:59 <Mekkis> new set!
23:34:30 <kapow> I don't think i will be :/ had no work for 3 weeks now, we go back on monday and i need to eat until next friday
23:34:40 <Mekkis> ah
23:35:05 <kapow> So i'll probably be playing in tomorrow nights game in here
23:37:09 <kapow> I need to get in some uptiered games with Peter while i can
23:37:11 <kapow> before they standardize gold even if you up tier
23:37:27 <kapow> If it won't be uptiering for peter i'll play henry so he's 7.2
23:37:30 <kapow> so next week he hits 8
23:37:48 <kapow> need to get to 10 so when flood runs eyes of the ten i can play it
23:38:35 <Mekkis> Eyes is 12
23:38:57 <kapow> whats the one you need to be 10th lvl for then :/
23:38:59 <kapow> or i might be wrong
23:39:01 <kapow> either way
23:39:13 <kapow> when flood runs that i want to be able to play in it
23:39:31 <Mekkis> Echoes of the Everwar?
23:42:23 <kapow> Might be that one, the one flood has been talking about running but we haven't had enough high lvls to do it.
23:42:23 <kapow> we played one of the brand new ones on tuesday that you missed out on too, it was brutal. I liked the guy that was visiting though john i think it was.
23:42:39 <Mekkis> John's cool
23:42:41 <Mekkis> yeah
23:42:48 <Mekkis> I was nursing a gastrovirus
23:42:51 <Mekkis> horrible stuff
23:43:15 <kapow> yeah daniel said you weren't very well.
23:43:27 <kapow> henry got beat down so hard so many times XP
23:43:34 <Mekkis> :)
23:43:40 <Mekkis> did John play Samoa?
23:43:59 <kapow> with the wolf that's name is like almost the same
23:44:05 <Mekkis> heh
23:44:08 <kapow> the summoner eidolon thing
23:44:16 <Mekkis> he survived Bonekeep!
23:44:30 <kapow> he saved you in there too :P
23:44:41 <Mekkis> http://i2.wp.com/buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/hackers.jpg
23:44:43 <Mekkis> yes
23:44:58 <kapow> daniel was saying he's heard of people completeing it
23:45:53 <kapow> I want to get Peter to level for it and go in :D
23:46:06 <kapow> I wouldn't take henry in I don't think
23:49:27 <kapow> in tsar we got a scroll as loot with ressurection, heal and gylph of greater warding on it as well, we tied up the caravan and the giants and all of that nonsense story line arch too.
23:50:03 <Mort-> Bone keep.
23:50:14 <Mekkis> bonekeep's a 3-7
23:50:21 <Mort-> *ponders and feels very sleepy*
23:50:28 <Mort-> Never mind.
23:50:36 <Mort-> Not playing here anyway
23:51:10 <kapow> Yeah i want to take Peter into bonekeep at 7
23:51:29 <Mort-> Prefer to play locally
23:51:36 <Mort-> Sgs are cool
23:51:40 <Mekkis> it's also...
23:51:55 <Mekkis> only run at cons with either Brock's Blessing or 50 tables
23:54:25 <kapow> paizocon can hope
23:54:26 <kapow> or maybe pax
23:54:58 <Mekkis> you going to pax?
23:55:06 <kapow> one of my friends has a spare rego for pax if i can afford it
23:55:11 <Mekkis> ssh about paizocon
23:58:14 <kapow> more or less hoping there is an opportunity sometime
23:58:16 <kapow> though i don't think i will have Peter at 7 by then
23:58:26 <kapow> this dcing shit is pissing me off :?
23:58:28 <Mekkis> I played with Kernigahn at 4
23:59:29 <kapow> the people daniel heard about surviving and completing it have been 7th level characters totally speced on playing down with a lower or 2 so they where on the cusp
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