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00:02:41 <Mekkis> Irrespective of my own personal preferences, I must admit that I find it rather surprising to see some of the subtleties of the differences between FttH and FttN being considered in the mainstream Australian media. The result of a couple of days of media attention on this topic is that we've all had a rapid education in the salient features of advanced high speed network architectures and their relative merits and relative costs. It prompts me to wonder
00:02:41 <Mekkis> if somehow we could make the support of a massive exercise of IPv6 deployment across the entire national network into an equally prominent election issue. Now there's a thought!
01:14:32 <Falang> hear hear!
01:15:21 <Rignesis> yes?
01:15:31 <Rignesis> go on, dear sir
01:16:20 <Rignesis> oh you talk about internet
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02:42:30 <Falang> gr
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06:17:56 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> not society
06:18:04 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i hope not all the games here are society games
06:18:11 <Avatar> they mostly are
06:18:15 <Avatar> what's wrong with society
06:18:30 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i like the race builder
06:18:39 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> also, more freeform campaigns
06:18:39 <Avatar> the what
06:18:44 <Avatar> forget that
06:18:48 <Avatar> register on the site, roll up a character
06:19:18 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i'd rather play a non-society game
06:19:26 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what ones are running at the moment?
06:19:54 <Avatar> the ones on the site
06:19:58 <Avatar> have you registered
06:20:30 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> nope
06:23:27 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i'm going to see what the games are like then make a character based on what game i'd like to apply to
06:23:38 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i don't make characters in a vacuum
06:23:40 <Avatar> that never works
06:23:46 <Avatar> watching a game is always worse than playing
06:24:38 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I meant see what the theme is of the game, find out what the characters are doing, what sort of character they need, and stuff like that
06:24:42 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> by asking the GM
06:24:44 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> or the players
06:27:12 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> so
06:27:18 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> who are the non-society GMs
06:27:23 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what are they running
06:28:26 <Avatar> mekkis and wrothmonk
06:30:26 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> which mekkis should I PM
06:31:05 <Avatar> both
06:38:01 <Ballig> I saw all the caps and thought my spam ban code didn't work
06:39:20 <Avatar> it didn't, she's still here
06:41:09 <Ballig> and so are you
06:41:10 <Ballig> and so are you
06:41:47 <Avatar> finally got that chronicle sheet from the kickstarter
07:01:40 <Avatar> what's good and costs 15000gp
07:02:58 <Falang> your mom
07:03:52 <Avatar> your banned
07:04:00 <Rignesis> :)
07:05:44 <Avatar> Mekkis are you still around
07:05:54 <Avatar> I don't think I got a chronicle sheet for king of the storval stairs
07:06:02 <Avatar> after we had to bail quickly on the last day
07:09:29 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> so
07:09:33 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Mekkis' game
07:09:40 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what's going on there
07:09:47 <Avatar> have you registered
07:10:05 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> No.
07:10:14 <Avatar> do you think you will
07:10:34 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Depends on what Mekkis and Wrothmonk's games are like
07:10:46 <Avatar> wrothmonk's one is just a playtest
07:10:54 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> If I feel compelled to play them
07:11:02 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I'll make an account.
07:11:03 <Avatar> if you're let in
07:11:12 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> That too
07:11:29 <Ballig> what's on it?
07:11:37 <Avatar> you generally need to have a good showing of wanting to hang around if you're planning on playing a campaign game
07:11:50 <Avatar> that'll be tricky to prove if you can't even bring yourself to register
07:12:00 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Christ, fine
07:12:08 <Avatar> you don't have to
07:14:31 <Avatar> I just scrounged up another 7k
07:14:38 <Avatar> what's good and costs 23000gp
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07:21:47 <Avatar> when you use it you gain the advanced simple template for the duration of the scenario
07:21:55 <Ballig> boring
07:21:56 <Avatar> or if you use it with someone else, you get a permanent random bonus
07:22:03 <Avatar> and there's a table of 20 things
07:22:04 <Ballig> what's the bonus table
07:22:28 <Avatar> alchemical bonus to
07:22:33 <Avatar> +2 to escape artist
07:22:49 <Avatar> use standard actions underwater
07:23:04 <Avatar> treat any fall as 10ft shorter
07:23:13 <Avatar> survive on half the normal food and water (??)
07:23:24 <Avatar> treat your str score as 2 higher when determining carrying capacity
07:23:29 <Avatar> +1 on sense motive and survival
07:23:34 <Avatar> +1 on diplo and intimidate
07:23:38 <Avatar> it's going to be more like 30000gp actually
07:23:43 <Avatar> reduce bleed damage by 1
07:23:52 <Avatar> +1 to attack rolls on readied attacks
07:23:53 <Avatar> how do I have no suggestions for 30000gp
07:24:11 <Avatar> when not wearing armour, you have natural armour spikes
07:24:22 <Avatar> +2 to survival to avoid getting lost
07:24:33 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i have no idea what your character is
07:24:34 <Avatar> reduce damage by negative energy by 1
07:24:42 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i may as well suggest random bullshit
07:25:12 <Avatar> roll 1d8 as per prismatic spray, your skin turns that colour permanently and you get +2 diplo vs humanoid gnomes
07:25:26 <Avatar> increase healing by positive energy by 1
07:25:38 <Avatar> gain low light vision, or if you already have it see 3x as far with it
07:26:14 <Avatar> pick any humanoid subtype and gain +3 to disguise when you try to appear as that race
07:26:20 <Avatar> +2 to swim
07:26:29 <Avatar> +2 to acrobatics (prehensile tail!)
07:26:47 <Avatar> when attacking an adjacent creature with concealment, reduce miss chance by 10%
07:26:58 <Avatar> and rolling 20 means you roll again and take two things
07:27:10 <Ballig> a lot of those seem useless or niche, but some look decent
07:27:13 <Rignesis> suggest :)
07:27:30 <Avatar> yeah
07:27:47 <Avatar> getting survive on half normal food and water is a joke
07:28:00 <Avatar> how does that even work
07:28:05 <Avatar> is there such a thing as half a ration
07:28:09 <Ballig> you're meant to use 1 trail ration a day
07:28:14 <Ballig> so it'd be 1 trail ration every two days
07:28:24 <Avatar> terrible for PFS
07:28:39 <Ballig> +2 diplo vs. humanoid gnomes (are there non-humanoid gnomes?) seems really niche too
07:30:16 <Avatar> it's a gunslinger
07:30:29 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> alright
07:30:33 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what do you have already?
07:30:51 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308
07:31:05 <Avatar> the armour's wrong and the gold's wrong
07:31:12 <Avatar> I've got +1 elven chain
07:31:20 <Avatar> and about 30000gp oh yeah sing it to me
07:32:25 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> well
07:32:36 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> you're using the old type firearms
07:32:42 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> which are the bad type of broken
07:32:50 <Avatar> in PFS you can't use advanced firearms
07:33:21 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> another reason not to play Pathfinder Society
07:33:43 <Brunius|M-> You're alive
07:33:48 <Avatar> so you're a munchkin are you
07:34:03 <Avatar> it says humanoids with the gnome subtype
07:34:11 <Brunius|M-> Can you tell Mekkis I didn't kidnap you?
07:35:06 <Ballig> I broke out of your basement and started using your computer while you were out
07:35:36 <Brunius|M-> I don't have a basement
07:35:55 <Brunius|M-> Checkmate atheists
07:36:21 <Ballig> yeah I was going to go with something more Australian, but I'm not really sure where we'd keep kidnap victims
07:36:24 <Ballig> garden shed?
07:36:28 <Ballig> probably should've gone with garden shed
07:36:30 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> nope
07:36:46 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i can just recognise that the traditional firearms aren't viable in pathfinder combat
07:36:49 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> anyway
07:36:55 <Avatar> they most certainly are
07:36:56 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> get some stuff to pump your skills
07:37:00 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> if you can find it
07:37:04 <Avatar> so much so I've had to avoid pumping up my gun too much
07:37:06 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> a means of flight, too
07:37:22 <Avatar> I can afford winged boots, but I think I'll stick with potions
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07:38:54 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> there are other means as to flight
07:39:08 <Avatar> like what
07:40:07 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> broom of flying
07:40:10 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> 17000
07:40:28 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> carpet of flying
07:40:30 <Avatar> I already have a witch
07:40:31 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> 20000
07:40:41 <Avatar> carpet eh
07:40:48 <Avatar> what are the mechanics like on that
07:41:06 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/carpet-of-flying
07:42:14 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> do you even know about the SRD?
07:42:18 <Avatar> you can squeeze 2 people on a 5ft x 5ft square can't you
07:42:26 <Avatar> yes I know about the SRD
07:43:11 <Avatar> isn't it better to get boots than a carpet
07:43:43 <Avatar> oh, 3/day, 5 minutes each flight
07:44:05 <Avatar> a flying carpet would be cool
07:44:34 <Avatar> I like the idea of being able to sit down, have the carpet fly my around, and shoot
07:44:51 <Avatar> hell I could lay prone for the +4 bonus and still move around and shoot !
07:51:47 <Avatar> not that I really need a higher to-hit bonus
08:19:39 <Steven> I dont believe you get a +4 bonus for laying down on a carpet of flying.
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08:47:28 <Steven> what up shifty
08:48:01 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Not much
08:48:09 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Looking at my Pathfinder Overhaul
08:48:24 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Thinking about running a game here.
08:48:34 <Steven> i lack context for that statement
08:48:39 <Steven> and you should totaly run a game here!
08:48:52 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Maybe.
08:49:00 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I'll see how I feel.
08:49:39 <Falang> I'll be looking forward to it
08:50:33 <Steven> I think i should run something today.
08:52:02 <Falang> who's up for some of my fresh batch of Panang?!
08:52:15 <Mekkis> sure
08:54:18 <Steven> little early for curry for me
08:54:50 <Falang> I love making curry, the smell just fills the house.
08:55:18 <Falang> it's even better now that I started using these tiny little thai eggplant things
09:00:05 <Steven> damn it, theres an error when i go to update my scenarios GMed
09:00:55 <Steven> well, suppose i wont have an updated list then
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09:08:16 <Mekkis> Anyone seen wrothmonk today?
09:11:17 <Falang> nope, kinda strange actually
09:11:55 <Steven> he's a kid and subject to his parents whims. They may have grounded him from the computer
09:12:11 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> oh god
09:12:21 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> the other non-society game runner is a kid?
09:12:28 <Rignesis> how old are you here?
09:12:44 <Rignesis> 28 here
09:12:45 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i only got here tonight
09:12:51 <Falang> I'll be running a game soon as well, and I'm as old as two Wroths put together
09:12:55 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i am hungry for RPGs
09:12:59 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i am 21
09:13:28 <Rignesis> falang - you 44?
09:13:51 <Falang> uhhhhh, he's not that old is he? that's hardly a kid.
09:13:57 <Falang> I'm not that damn old, no.
09:14:09 <Rignesis> so how old are you? :D
09:14:11 <Falang> 38 last I checked, but I'm not known to be reliable in remembering it.
09:14:41 <Rignesis> and what about mekkis?
09:14:54 <Falang> who knows
09:14:57 <Falang> I'm apparently the oldest person in here
09:15:07 <Falang> which means you must OBEY!@#
09:15:18 <Mekkis> My age in yours can be stored in five bits.
09:15:23 <Mekkis> s/yours/years/
09:15:56 <Falang> I'm sorry, it seems Mekkis was dropped repeatedly on his head as a baby and somehow overstimulated some kind of nerd gland.
09:16:43 <Rignesis> he is australian military secret project - and talks in code
09:17:28 <Rignesis> most likely - higly flammable
09:19:16 <Mekkis> So. Are you a Norwegian spy, or a Latvian spy?
09:20:27 <Mekkis> I'm assuming Latvian, Rignesis. I also think your netadmin is a lazy bastard.
09:21:48 <Falang> no reverse dns again?
09:21:59 <Mekkis> nope
09:22:30 <Falang> God that's annoying, I've never understood that. Mine does show up locally, but won't resolve from austnet at least.. I can't say I'm surprised.
09:22:46 <Falang> Like reverse DNS is so damn hard or something
09:22:51 <Mekkis> does mine show up?
09:25:37 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Okay
09:25:39 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> So
09:25:44 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> The game that I'm running
09:25:51 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Or going to run
09:25:56 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> One I get everything together
09:26:01 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Is going to be a zombie game
09:26:05 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> In the style of L4D2
09:26:21 <Falang> I've been meaning to play that ever since I got it on sale on steam..
09:27:22 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I've played it so much that I'm in the top 3% of players
09:27:25 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> according to Raptr
09:27:56 <Falang> well shit, when I do I'll be sure to bug you for tips
09:28:55 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> It is a game that seems simple
09:29:05 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> but has a deep complexity
09:29:24 <Mekkis> so trying to organise a resistance and find a safehouse?
09:29:36 <Mekkis> consecrated ground?
09:29:47 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> It's.....
09:29:49 <Mekkis> or four gunslingers?
09:29:55 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Well, the zombies aren't entirely unholy
09:29:57 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> No
09:30:01 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> No gunslingers
09:30:20 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Swashbucklers, a melee class that replaces them, yes
09:30:40 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> But you can be any class
09:30:46 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> except gunslinger
09:31:05 <Brunius|M-> So Ballig, what's going on? Haven't seen you around that much recently
09:31:21 <Falang> I'll treat it like a game of CoC, I'll be a Running specialist ;)
09:32:01 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> to bad that the zombies are faster
09:32:10 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> you obviously haven't played L4D2
09:32:34 <Mekkis> What's the background?
09:34:22 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> What do you mean?
09:34:28 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Because if you mean the origin of the zombies
09:34:32 <Mekkis> no
09:34:55 <Mekkis> I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "in the style of L4D2"
09:35:09 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Uhhhhhh
09:35:39 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XIle_kLHKU
09:35:43 <diebot> SHIFTKEYGIRL, Left 4 Dead 2 Trailer Cinematic Video
09:36:06 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKhZcpcuWz4
09:36:07 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> this also
09:36:08 <diebot> SHIFTKEYGIRL, L4D 1 Trailer
09:37:12 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> oh wait
09:37:17 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> that second one isn't the full trailer
09:37:19 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> UHHHH
09:37:29 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> just the first one, then
09:39:42 <Rignesis> latvian spy
09:45:38 <Steven> alright back. so... whats goin on peeps
09:50:32 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Okay
09:50:34 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> so
09:50:42 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I am using a randomly generated map for this game
09:50:46 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> so you can be from anywhere
09:51:03 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> because fuck me if i am fleshing this whole world out from the start
10:11:44 <Mekkis> so Brunius|M- what's going on?
10:43:58 <Falang> mornin' folks
10:44:17 <Mekkis> http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74
10:46:25 <Falang> Maybe there are lolth-mutated spider-gnomes! "spider gnome, spider gnome.."
11:04:48 <Mekkis> Hydrazine?
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11:45:59 <Hydrazine> ?
11:47:02 <Falang> "spider-gnome, spider-gnome.. can do anything a spider-gnome can.."
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13:00:47 <Mekkis> Can you sneak attack with /enervation/?
13:02:46 <Falang> isn't it a ranged attack spell?
13:03:28 <Falang> wait... yes.. brain cells warming up.. level draining spell. how would you sneak attack with that?
13:27:38 <Mekkis> !spell dispell magic, greater
13:27:43 <diebot> Mekkis, DISPEL MAGIC, GREATER abjuration ([]) bard 5, cleric 6, druid 6, sorcerer/wizard 6, witch 6, inquisitor 6, summoner 5, magus 6 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one spellcaster, creature, or object Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:no
13:27:43 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/dispel_magic,_greater.html
13:29:36 <Mekkis> !spell Curse of magic negation
13:29:37 <diebot> Mekkis, CURSE OF MAGIC NEGATION abjuration ([curse]) cleric 5, inquisitor 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4 1 round Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one creature Comp: V, S, M (powdered lead and platinum worth 250 gp) Duration: 10 minute/level Save: Will negates SR:no
13:29:37 <diebot> You disrupt the target creature's ability to draw upon magical energies. For the duration of the spell, it gains the negated spellblight (see page 97). Dispel checks to remove the spellblight take a -5 penalty due to this spell's interference with magical energies.
13:30:07 <Mekkis> !spell Break Enchantment
13:30:08 <diebot> Mekkis, BREAK ENCHANTMENT abjuration ([]) bard 4, cleric 5, paladin 4, sorcerer/wizard 5, witch 5, inquisitor 5 1 minute Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) up to one creature per level, all within 30 ft. of each other Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: see text SR:no
13:30:09 <diebot> This spell frees victims from enchantments, transmutations, and curses. Break enchantment can reverse even an instantaneous effect. For each such effect, you make a caster level check (1d20 + caster level, maximum +15) against a DC of 11 + caster level of the effect. Success means that the creature is free of the spell, curse, or effect. For a
13:30:09 <diebot> cursed magic item, the DC is equal to the DC of the curse. If the spell is one that cannot be dispelled by dispel magic, break enchantment works only if that spell is 5th level or lower. If the effect comes from a permanent magic item, break enchantment does not remove the curse from the item, but it does free the victim from the item's effects.
13:30:39 <Mekkis> !spell spell absorption
13:30:41 <diebot> Mekkis, SPELL ABSORPTION abjuration ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5 1 round Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (a prism) Duration: 1 round/level Save: SR:
13:30:42 <diebot> If you successfully counterspell a 3rd-level or lower level spell (through either dispel magic or normal means) while spell absorption is in effect, you absorb the countered spell and use it to regain spells you have already cast. If you're a wizard, you regain the use of any single spell that you have cast since the last time you prepared spells.
13:30:42 <diebot> If you're a sorcerer, you regain a single spell slot. The spell recovered or spell slot regained must be of an equal level or lower than the spell you counterspelled.
13:38:52 <Mekkis> https://www.google.com/search?q=atari+breakout&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=uUmRUYTnFMetigL0g4HgCw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1244&bih=957
14:13:05 <Falang> wait, game today right?
14:13:14 <Falang> I gotta remember to prep for that..
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14:44:05 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
14:46:19 <Steven> finally done with stuff for the day.
14:46:24 <Steven> had to skip out on PFS for the night
14:58:53 <Steven> well... since nobody is here, i guess ill go play some video games
15:00:23 <Ashar> awwww
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15:44:51 <Mekkis> !spell simulacrum, lesser
15:44:52 <diebot> Mekkis, SIMULACRUM, LESSER illusion (shadow[]) sorcerer/wizard 4 1 hour Range: 0 ft. Comp: V, S, M (an ice sculpture of the target plus powdered rubies worth 50 gp per HD of the simulacrum) Duration: 1 hour/level Save: none SR:no
15:44:53 <diebot> This spell functions as simulacrum, except you can't create a simulacrum of a creature whose HD or levels exceed your caster level, and it has no magical abilities. The creature is not under your control, though it recognizes you are its creator.
15:45:04 <Mekkis> !spell simulacrum
15:45:06 <diebot> Mekkis, SIMULACRUM illusion (shadow[]) sorcerer/wizard 7, summoner 5 12 hours Range: 0 ft. Comp: V, S, M (ice sculpture of the target plus powdered rubies worth 500 gp per HD of the simulacrum) Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:no
15:45:06 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/simulacrum.html
15:45:41 <Mekkis> Steven, question: how can a character *know* the HD of a creature?
15:52:50 <Hydrazine> Were you looking for me, Mekkis?
15:55:28 <Mekkis> is your bunkspace on a submarine suitable for making armour?
15:56:30 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2prdv?Full-8-hr-crafting-while-traveling#23
16:03:14 <Hydrazine> I would say no.
16:03:24 <Hydrazine> Not enough of an overhead to swing a hammer.
16:03:51 <Hydrazine> Not to mention the crew would lynch you if you were hammering in berthing.
16:04:07 <Hydrazine> A fist would just shoot out from a nearby bed.
16:04:34 <Mekkis> ok
16:07:11 <Hydrazine> But seriously, even without the displeasure of your peers, the vertical space in a sub bunk is ~elbow to straight fingertips.
16:07:36 <Hydrazine> While this isn't a precise number, it should give you the right idea.
16:08:12 <Mekkis> so with a pair of pliers, you could conceivably make chainmail, but anything else, forget it?
16:08:33 <Hydrazine> We made chainmail at the RC-Div workbench, back in the engineroom.
16:08:49 <Steven> technically theres no way to know for sure the HD of a creature, its one of the situations where you are allowed to metagame without bein called a dick.
16:08:53 <Hydrazine> Better light, more space in the engineroom.
16:09:36 <Mekkis> I suppose it's like, there's a skeleton on the floor. How much onyx do I need to throw at it to make it stand up?
16:09:37 <Hydrazine> Hm. I guess my opinion on that is trial and error. "this spell has worked on this sort of enemy before, but not those."
16:11:43 <Hydrazine> Took us a few tries to figure out the pattern for chainmail.
16:12:14 <Steven> got it all made yet?
16:12:47 <Hydrazine> That was years ago.
16:13:16 <Steven> so no pictures
16:14:07 <Hydrazine> Sorry.
16:14:12 <Hydrazine> We did pretty good though.
16:14:13 <Steven> sad panda
16:14:27 <Hydrazine> Good nickel based alloy wire for it.
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16:16:54 <Steven> hydra you gonna come to paizocon?
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16:24:51 <Mekkis> ?CA
16:24:55 <Mekkis> ?ca
16:24:56 <diebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/DevCA22b135.zip
16:27:00 <Hydrazine> Unlikely.
16:27:19 <Steven> to bad, its gonna be pretty kick ass this year from everything im hearing
16:27:34 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, you coming to PaizoConOz?
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16:32:33 <Hydrazine> I wish. Can't wait to go back to Oz.
16:33:26 <Steven> i cant wait to stay out of Oz!
16:33:30 <Steven> ahhhh i feel good already
16:58:00 <Steven> so whats everyone doin?
17:00:33 <Mekkis> coding CA
17:00:47 <Mekkis> and listening to Geoff Huston
17:09:13 <Mekkis> "There's this axiom in business that if your business plan is completely broken and you're about to go bankrupt, you go to Brussels and make the right case, they'll save you. Speak to the Greeks."
17:09:44 <Mekkis> (or the copyright cartel)
17:11:14 <Avatar> yo
17:11:41 <Mekkis> oh no
17:12:05 <Mekkis> https://ripe65.ripe.net/archives/video/3/
17:14:33 <Avatar> I thought you were going to say the avatar has found me
17:15:06 <Avatar> it's occurred to me that while I"m racing to get this oracle I don't really need ready, I need to get my gunslinger ready for a game in 2 days
17:15:40 <Avatar> buck's going to level up to 11 or die trying this weekend
17:22:10 <Mekkis> Deceased's business cards have been printed
17:22:22 <Mekkis> and shipped
17:22:55 <Mekkis> Steven, how do you deal with tactics that Don't Work?
17:23:32 <Mekkis> do you ignore them, or say, well, that's RAI, so it HAS to work, so In This Case, it works..?
17:29:05 <Avatar> Mekkis: do you have any 12s yet
17:29:13 <Mekkis> nope. An 11.0
17:29:24 <Avatar> sweet I am about to catch up
17:29:38 <Mekkis> but I want to play Eot10 with Deceased, rather than with Mytiazair
17:29:55 <Avatar> well I'd rather play it with snickers rather than buck, but I'm not picky
17:30:05 <Mekkis> for Eyes of the Ten, you should be.
17:30:12 <Avatar> should I
17:30:15 <Avatar> a gunslinger or a witch
17:30:19 <Avatar> it's not a tough decision
17:30:26 <Mekkis> you should play the character you want to play
17:30:30 <Mekkis> with Eyes of the Ten
17:30:33 <Avatar> either is fine
17:30:39 <Avatar> I just like my witch a bit better
17:30:51 <Mekkis> but if Deceased is playing it, he'd rather play with Buck...
17:30:59 <Avatar> I'm only really burned on the gunslinger because it was getting too easy to kill shit
17:31:04 <Avatar> but lately I have learned that it is too easy to misfire
17:31:24 <Mekkis> You've got your Blood Under Absalom boon still, right?
17:31:32 <Avatar> yeah, forgot about it actually
17:31:36 <Avatar> what does it do again
17:31:42 <Mekkis> depends what boon you chose
17:31:56 <Mekkis> if you chose Combat Boon, it gives you two rerolls of attack rolls
17:32:00 <Avatar> shit I have to find it
17:32:29 <Avatar> better not forget the beginner box boon
17:32:34 <Mekkis> why?
17:32:39 <Mekkis> it's useless now
17:32:44 <Mekkis> only works if you have <20 fame
17:32:53 <Avatar> still
17:33:12 <Avatar> free vanity
17:33:17 <Avatar> maybe I should use these at some point
17:33:26 <Avatar> what's the point in winning tons of boons and never bloody using them
17:33:54 <Mekkis> giving them to people who will.
17:34:01 <Avatar> got a boon that gives a bonus vs death effects and other shit
17:34:01 <Mekkis> If you got a Wayang, I really want it.
17:34:12 <Avatar> I give away all my race boons
17:34:16 <Avatar> when I get something I'll let you know
17:34:19 <Mekkis> thanks
17:34:31 <Mekkis> I didn't get any boons from Conquest. I feel rather burned.
17:38:49 <Avatar> yeah I don't know how I get so many and you never get any
17:39:08 <Avatar> stephanie got 3 at conquest
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17:40:29 <sxc-cum> feeling horny and want to get sucked off msg me
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17:41:41 <Avatar> it feels good, doesn't it
17:41:46 <Avatar> no pun intended
17:42:24 <Mekkis> you should put Lucky and Reliable on your gun
17:42:39 <Avatar> the idea was to make it not overpowered, otherwise reliable would be on there
17:42:54 <Mekkis> fair enough
17:43:00 <Avatar> but that's not working out
17:43:03 <Mekkis> Lucky wouldn't make it overpowered
17:43:04 <Avatar> I regularly roll 2s and 3s
17:43:10 <Avatar> what is lucky, I haven't heard of that
17:44:11 <Mekkis> This special ability can only be placed on one-handed or
17:44:11 <Mekkis> two-handed firearms. A lucky firearm has its own magical
17:44:11 <Mekkis> reservoir of grit (see Ultimate Combat). [...] [The wielder] can always spend 1 grit point from the lucky firearm to reroll
17:44:11 <Mekkis> an attack from it that would result in a misfire. When the
17:44:11 <Mekkis> wielder does so, she must take the second result, even if that
17:44:11 <Mekkis> attack roll also results in a misfire.
17:44:51 <Mekkis> This reservoir holds 1 grit point, which is refreshed at the start of each day.
17:45:03 <Avatar> I have heard of that
17:45:11 <Avatar> and I didn't think it awarded an immediate reroll
17:45:20 <Avatar> I have a feat that took care of grit
17:45:31 <Avatar> I thought that just gave the a grit point to quick clear
17:45:44 <Avatar> that's actually a fantastic upgrade for James
17:46:35 <Avatar> since a misfire breaks the character completely
17:46:42 <Mekkis> Looks like I ruled incorrectly last night.
17:46:55 <Mekkis> DR takes place AFTER applying incorporeal.
17:47:16 <Mekkis> So if something has DR10 and is incorporeal, you need to do 22 points of damage to it to even scratch it.
17:47:54 <Avatar> what scenario has a bad guy with DR 10 and incorporeal
17:48:16 <Mekkis> first 7-11 I've ran, actually...
17:48:19 <Avatar> I don't remember that
17:48:44 <Avatar> I played it with Buck at level 7 while everyone else was 10 or 11
17:48:56 <Avatar> ulzef was there
17:49:03 <Avatar> we uptiered it
17:49:08 <Avatar> well I uptiered
17:49:48 <Mekkis> Buck's Gun overcomes the DR, for starters...
17:50:08 <Avatar> I remember making an attack roll and thinking I did 3 damage, at level 7
17:50:15 <Avatar> and then everyone was like hmm ok
17:50:24 <Avatar> then next turn I was like hey wait a minute, no, 27 damage !
17:50:25 <Mekkis> Knowledge checks!
17:50:33 <Mekkis> that seems to happen a lot with Buck
17:50:40 <Mekkis> when you do 20 damage off a crit
17:50:45 <Mekkis> and I'm like... wtf?
17:50:49 <Avatar> I have more excuse now than I did back then, but I was still about as used to it as I am now
17:50:56 <Mekkis> you have no excuse
17:50:57 <Avatar> there is a lot to add up
17:51:02 <Avatar> really
17:51:04 <Mekkis> to not know how to play your character.
17:51:05 <Avatar> why is that
17:51:11 <Avatar> I know how to play my character
17:51:13 <Avatar> it's the maths
17:51:33 <Mekkis> you know the whiteboard I have on the back of my clipboard that I use when I play?
17:51:38 <Avatar> yeah
17:51:45 <Mekkis> you know what I write on it?
17:51:52 <Avatar> yeah I am a mind reader
17:52:02 <Mekkis> I keep my current attack and damage modifiers
17:52:12 <Avatar> all of that is on my character sheet
17:52:17 <Mekkis> whenever someone casts Bless or Prayer or Haste of whatever, I update it.
17:52:23 <Avatar> the modifiers from haste and whatnot are not the hard part
17:52:40 <Mekkis> so it's in front of me before I roll to attack
17:53:16 <Avatar> first I have to decide what type of attack I'm doing based on how far away I am and how many attacks I have
17:53:29 <Mekkis> then write each of them down on the whiteboard
17:53:30 <Avatar> then I've got the rollset in front of me, and because I change them all the time, I never get used to them
17:53:36 <Avatar> they're on the character sheet
17:53:49 <Mekkis> but they don't take into account stuff like bless or prayer or haste
17:54:00 <Avatar> adding 1 or 2 is not an issue, I just said that
17:54:36 <Avatar> +1 Seeking Holy Musket
17:54:37 <Avatar> +15/+10 1d12+6 19-20/x4 9lb 40 ft M B & P (Misfire 1-2, Capacity 1)
17:54:37 <Avatar> vs evil +2d6
17:54:37 <Avatar> within 30ft +16/+11 1d12+7 (Point Blank Shot)
17:54:37 <Avatar> Deadly Aim +12/+7 1d12+12
17:54:37 <Avatar> Deadly Aim&30ft +13/+8 1d12+13
17:54:37 <Avatar> Rapid Shot +13/+13/+8 1d12+6
17:54:37 <Avatar> RS&30ft +14/+14/+9 1d12+7
17:54:37 <Avatar> RS&DA (>30ft) +10/+10/+5 1d12+12
17:54:37 <Avatar> RS&DA (<=30ft) +11/+11/+6 1d12+13
17:54:55 <Avatar> it's adding a 1d20 or 1d12 to those numbers, on 3 attacks
17:55:13 <Avatar> one for each attack and one for each damage on different dice
17:55:34 <Mekkis> Damage doesn't change.
17:55:40 <Mekkis> for each attack.
17:55:54 <Avatar> you're still focusing on the bless/prayer/haste thing
17:56:13 <Avatar> tristen had the same problem with his archer
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17:56:19 <Avatar> not because he's a bad player, it's just a lot to think about
17:56:32 <Mekkis> I've played an archer too. I don't have those problems.
17:56:42 <Proquar> are you busy mekkis?
17:56:52 <Avatar> where's your sheet
17:56:53 <Mekkis> not entirely: I'll be having dinner soon though
17:57:27 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Arjuna.pdf
17:57:32 <Mekkis> that might be last level
17:57:37 <Mekkis> but other than that it's up to date
17:58:07 <Avatar> yeah yours looks similar to mine
17:58:12 <Avatar> maybe you can count better than we can
17:58:44 <Mekkis> for starters, you're not going to full-attack without using rapid shot, right?
17:58:58 <Mekkis> and you're hardly ever going to attack without using deadly aim.
17:58:58 <Avatar> usually
17:59:01 <Proquar> char sheets are too long these days
17:59:03 * Proquar frowns
17:59:18 <Avatar> they're exactly the same old lady
17:59:31 <Proquar> whipper snapper, you!
17:59:35 <Avatar> :P
17:59:36 <Mekkis> yeah. Look at Nameless One's sheet, for instance!
17:59:41 <Mekkis> that was like, 5 years ago
18:00:49 <Proquar> Can I play Lupton?
18:01:02 <Avatar> probably
18:01:05 <Mekkis> When I play Arjuna, I only look at the RS DA PBS and RS DA attack sequences.
18:01:17 <Mekkis> I add the point-blank shot on-the-fly
18:01:38 <Mekkis> so I just write +10/+10/+5 1d6+14 on the whiteboard.
18:01:54 <Avatar> haven't you just been preaching that you add in bonuses like bless on your whiteboard
18:01:58 <Mekkis> yes.
18:02:01 <Avatar> why would you do that with bless but not point blank shot
18:02:18 <Mekkis> because PBS is something that I can't determine until it's my turn.
18:02:34 <Mekkis> (although PBS is almost always on: Arjuna generally rides a celestial pegasus)
18:04:17 <Mekkis> One thing I'd suggest is to put everything you Generally Won't Use elsewhere - like not on your whiteboard.
18:04:43 <Mekkis> Sure, it will make your character a little less powerful, but a lot easier to play
18:06:06 <Avatar> if I generally won't use it, it wouldn't be on my sheet
18:06:29 <Mekkis> !find Buck
18:06:30 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308
18:07:04 <Mekkis> So why is Intimidate vs goblins on your sheet?
18:08:36 <Avatar> because I will forget I have the boon if it's not there
18:08:53 <Mekkis> Sure... but you Generally Won't Use It
18:08:55 <Avatar> I don't go looking at my boons every time I make any kind of roll to see if I have some sort of bonus to it
18:09:01 <Avatar> and I certainly don't trust my memory
18:09:18 <Avatar> there are other rules to consider
18:09:22 <Mekkis> I'll use Perfection, Itzamna's Eidolon as an example.
18:09:26 <Avatar> you can't just look at one and ignore the rest since they don't meet that first one
18:09:31 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Perfection.pdf
18:09:49 <Mekkis> Sure, there are a bunch of different attacks he can use.
18:11:14 <Mekkis> But really, the only attacks he DOES use is the full-attack power attack. So I write:
18:11:16 <Mekkis> Bite +11 1d8+16
18:11:26 <Mekkis> 4 Claws +11 1d6+11
18:11:34 <Avatar> that's great but I have no idea about your eidolon
18:11:47 <Mekkis> Vs Human: Bite +13 1d8+2d6+18
18:12:07 <Mekkis> 4 Claws: +13 1d6+2d6+13
18:12:49 <Mekkis> Sure, there is the option to not power attack, or whatever, but I've decided that I will never use it.
18:13:11 <Mekkis> If an AoO comes up when he hasn't power attacked, then I'll go to the sheet and look it up, but that rarely comes up.
18:13:23 * Proquar heads off for dinner
18:13:53 <Avatar> is that what's missing, power attack
18:13:56 <Mekkis> Since Itzamna's casting Greater Magic Fang, and Haste and all a manner of other things, that sort of thing needs to be kept up-to-date.
18:14:00 <Mekkis> ?
18:14:14 <Mekkis> Perfection always uses power attack.
18:14:23 <Avatar> all of these lines are meaningless man
18:15:03 <Avatar> how can you show me how efficient your attacks are if I don't know what inefficient looks like there
18:15:12 <Mekkis> your sheet.
18:15:25 <Avatar> my sheet is fine
18:15:32 <Avatar> efficient, even
18:15:35 <Mekkis> you have EIGHT separate lines you need to choose from and look up
18:15:44 <Avatar> no I don't
18:15:46 <Avatar> the numbers are all there
18:15:50 <Avatar> choosing a line is not the hard part
18:15:57 <Mekkis> what's the hard part then?
18:16:36 <Avatar> adding 1d20+11, 1d20+11, 1d20+6, 1d12+13, 1d12+13, 1d12+13
18:16:58 <Avatar> if a critical comes into it, it's even more maddening
18:17:27 <Avatar> then it becomes 1d20+11, 1d20+11, 1d20+6, 1d20+11, 1d12+13, 1d12+13, 1d12+13, 1d12+13, 1d12+13, 1d12+13, 1d12+13
18:17:38 <Avatar> that is a hell of a lot of numbers
18:17:54 <Mekkis> so you roll all your attacks at once?
18:18:06 <Avatar> I can't roll them all at once, I can't keep up
18:18:22 <Mekkis> do you try?
18:18:31 <Avatar> yeah, I've even got colour coded dice for it
18:18:47 <Avatar> lots of d12s
18:18:57 <Mekkis> I.... recommend against it...
18:19:06 <Avatar> against what
18:19:15 <Mekkis> rolling all attacks at once.
18:19:25 <Avatar> yeah i've learnt that the hard way
18:19:38 <Avatar> were you there when we played king of storval stairs
18:19:38 <Mekkis> Did you ever see Gitch play his archer?
18:19:40 <Mekkis> yes
18:19:55 <Avatar> yeah I was rolling all at once there and that sort of worked once I got my groove down
18:20:10 <Mekkis> until a misfire or a crit happened
18:20:40 <Avatar> yeah, that was just the first time
18:21:04 <Avatar> it becomes a bit pointless to roll all at once with that many rolls
18:21:09 <Mekkis> I was impressed at Gitch's management of his archer, actually.
18:21:19 <Avatar> what does he do
18:21:45 <Mekkis> his archer generally fires six arrows a round, with five attack rolls.
18:22:25 <Mekkis> He has six sets of coloured dice, and six corresponding whiteboard markers. 1d20, 1d8, 2d6.
18:23:17 <Avatar> and does what with them
18:23:18 <Mekkis> He keeps them in six separate piles in front of him, and has each separate set of attack and damage modifiers written out for each one.
18:23:26 <Mekkis> (in corresponding colours)
18:23:41 <Avatar> oh right
18:23:56 <Mekkis> when it's his turn, he'll start at the left, and roll one pile, resolve the hit and damage, then move on to the next one.
18:24:08 <Mekkis> (the sixth dice pile he uses for haste)
18:24:09 <Avatar> it's honestly just the maths that gets in the way with me
18:24:30 <Avatar> I can easily add 9 + 13 but when I get to the table and numbers are everywhere, I draw a blank
18:24:47 <Avatar> it's actually not like that online
18:24:52 <Mekkis> but there are two reasons why you should roll each attack separately (but roll attack and damage together)
18:25:05 <Avatar> I guess because you can roll 1d20+13 without adding it
18:25:07 <Mekkis> the first is that it means less calculations at once.
18:25:31 <Mekkis> The second is because if your first shot drops the enemy, you can then easily move on to the next enemy.
18:26:01 <Avatar> you can do that anyway
18:26:11 <Mekkis> sure. but not easily.
18:26:20 <Avatar> I don't really understand why people insist on rolling all at once
18:26:36 <Avatar> ashley seems to do it really well
18:26:59 <Mekkis> if you're rolling 5d20, and 5d12, and 10d6, it's hard to fish out the yellow d20, the yellow d12 and the two yellow d6s.
18:27:53 <Avatar> yeah
18:27:58 <Mekkis> (also, as a GM, if you roll all at once, it's a good way of killing PCs)
18:28:13 <Mekkis> (strangely enough, Matt Goodall doesn't do that)
18:28:32 <Mekkis> (Mike Brock does, iirc)
18:28:42 <Mekkis> but that was bonekeep, so sure.
18:29:53 <Avatar> yeah good call
18:29:58 <Avatar> on not rolling all at once while GMing
18:30:05 <Avatar> not on mike brock doing it during bonekeep
18:30:17 <Avatar> it's meant to be hard because it's a hard scenario, not because of dice rolling techniques
18:30:18 <Mekkis> depends on whether or not you WANT to kill characters
18:30:41 <Avatar> depends on whether or not you want to kill characters for good reasons or bad ones
18:32:44 <Mekkis> Sure. It does have the unfortunate side-effect of making you look like a douche if you do find yourself in a position where an enemy has dropped the character after two hits of a full-attack.
18:33:11 <Mekkis> (do you continue the full-attack on the downed character)
18:33:47 <Avatar> is anyone else adjacent
18:33:55 <Proquar> mekkis, is it ok to play lupton tonight?
18:33:58 <Mekkis> no - nor reachable with a 5' step
18:34:09 <Avatar> then yeah finish it off
18:34:14 <Mekkis> Proquar, is lupton PFS-legal and level 1-7?
18:34:17 <Proquar> it's all right, she's not pathfinder.. i remember
18:34:18 <Mekkis> if so, Sure
18:34:29 <Avatar> she's level 4 isn't she
18:34:33 <Proquar> pathfinder is beginning to unnerve me
18:34:40 <Avatar> why
18:35:01 <Proquar> not sure... too pedantic, but that's not quite it
18:35:20 <Mekkis> Avatar, pretty much. It still makes you look like a douche.
18:35:37 <Avatar> no it doesn't, at high levels, that becomes normal
18:35:45 <Proquar> oh, falang has declined...
18:35:46 <Avatar> happens whether you roll all at once or not
18:35:59 <Mekkis> sure, but you're not consciously doing it.
18:36:22 <Avatar> that doesn't change anything, the result is the same
18:37:16 <Mekkis> more or less
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18:44:26 * Proquar toddles off to work on a char....
19:26:04 <Proquar> Apparently, I haven't used my D&D books since we moved
19:28:15 <Mekkis> is enough peoples here?
19:28:26 <Mekkis> bloodlust isn't
19:29:59 <Proquar> i think i'm going to have to play tabina....
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19:33:52 <Mekkis> ballig you around?
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19:41:16 <Mekkis> hmmm...
19:41:40 <Mekkis> I'll give it another 10 minutes or so for people to show up
19:43:09 <Avatar> who accepted
19:43:19 <Proquar> me
19:43:20 <Mekkis> bloodlust and farang
19:43:27 <Avatar> falang declined
19:43:29 <Mekkis> but farang pulled out
19:43:36 <Avatar> who are you expecting to show up
19:44:13 <Avatar> if there isn't 3 by 7.30, game over
19:50:01 <Mekkis> fair enough then. Could you please schedule SOI 3 for this time next Thursday then
19:50:39 <Avatar> wasn't that scheduled
19:50:56 <Avatar> sorry I'll do it in a bit
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20:12:10 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Okay
20:12:11 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> so
20:12:12 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> pathfinder
20:12:16 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what's up
20:12:58 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I'm looking to play
20:15:13 <Avatar> are you really
20:15:38 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> you've seen through my tricks
20:15:50 <Avatar> you didn't hide it very well
20:15:52 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i'm actually a christian gremlin come to spoil your fun
20:15:56 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> yes really
20:16:05 <Avatar> it's the shift key that gave it away
20:16:47 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> so
20:16:56 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what's the deal with games around here
20:17:03 <Avatar> have you played PFS before
20:17:09 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> not society
20:17:17 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i hope not all the games here are society games
20:17:24 <Avatar> they mostly are
20:17:28 <Avatar> what's wrong with society
20:17:43 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i like the race builder
20:17:52 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> also, more freeform campaigns
20:17:52 <Avatar> the what
20:17:57 <Avatar> forget that
20:18:01 <Avatar> register on the site, roll up a character
20:18:31 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i'd rather play a non-society game
20:18:39 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what ones are running at the moment?
20:19:07 <Avatar> the ones on the site
20:19:11 <Avatar> have you registered
20:19:43 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> nope
20:22:40 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i'm going to see what the games are like then make a character based on what game i'd like to apply to
20:22:51 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i don't make characters in a vacuum
20:22:53 <Avatar> that never works
20:22:59 <Avatar> watching a game is always worse than playing
20:23:51 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I meant see what the theme is of the game, find out what the characters are doing, what sort of character they need, and stuff like that
20:23:55 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> by asking the GM
20:23:57 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> or the players
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20:26:25 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> so
20:26:31 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> who are the non-society GMs
20:26:36 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what are they running
20:27:39 <Avatar> mekkis and wrothmonk
20:29:39 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> which mekkis should I PM
20:30:18 <Avatar> both
20:37:14 <Ballig> I saw all the caps and thought my spam ban code didn't work
20:38:33 <Avatar> it didn't, she's still here
20:40:22 <Ballig> and so are you
20:40:23 <Ballig> and so are you
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21:00:53 <Avatar> what's good and costs 15000gp
21:02:11 <Falang> your mom
21:03:05 <Avatar> your banned
21:03:13 <Rignesis> :)
21:04:57 <Avatar> Mekkis are you still around
21:05:07 <Avatar> I don't think I got a chronicle sheet for king of the storval stairs
21:05:15 <Avatar> after we had to bail quickly on the last day
21:08:42 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> so
21:08:46 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Mekkis' game
21:08:53 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what's going on there
21:09:00 <Avatar> have you registered
21:09:18 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> No.
21:09:27 <Avatar> do you think you will
21:09:47 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Depends on what Mekkis and Wrothmonk's games are like
21:09:59 <Avatar> wrothmonk's one is just a playtest
21:10:07 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> If I feel compelled to play them
21:10:15 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I'll make an account.
21:10:16 <Avatar> if you're let in
21:10:25 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> That too
21:10:50 <Avatar> you generally need to have a good showing of wanting to hang around if you're planning on playing a campaign game
21:11:03 <Avatar> that'll be tricky to prove if you can't even bring yourself to register
21:11:13 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Christ, fine
21:11:21 <Avatar> you don't have to
21:13:44 <Avatar> I just scrounged up another 7k
21:13:51 <Avatar> what's good and costs 23000gp
21:22:51 <Avatar> it's going to be more like 30000gp actually
21:23:06 <Avatar> how do I have no suggestions for 30000gp
21:23:46 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i have no idea what your character is
21:23:55 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i may as well suggest random bullshit
21:26:26 <Rignesis> suggest :)
21:29:29 <Avatar> it's a gunslinger
21:29:42 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> alright
21:29:46 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> what do you have already?
21:30:04 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308
21:30:18 <Avatar> the armour's wrong and the gold's wrong
21:30:25 <Avatar> I've got +1 elven chain
21:30:33 <Avatar> and about 30000gp oh yeah sing it to me
21:31:38 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> well
21:31:49 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> you're using the old type firearms
21:31:55 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> which are the bad type of broken
21:32:04 <Avatar> in PFS you can't use advanced firearms
21:32:34 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> another reason not to play Pathfinder Society
21:33:01 <Avatar> so you're a munchkin are you
21:35:43 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> nope
21:35:59 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i can just recognise that the traditional firearms aren't viable in pathfinder combat
21:36:02 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> anyway
21:36:09 <Avatar> they most certainly are
21:36:09 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> get some stuff to pump your skills
21:36:13 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> if you can find it
21:36:17 <Avatar> so much so I've had to avoid pumping up my gun too much
21:36:19 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> a means of flight, too
21:36:35 <Avatar> I can afford winged boots, but I think I'll stick with potions
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21:38:07 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> there are other means as to flight
21:38:21 <Avatar> like what
21:39:20 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> broom of flying
21:39:23 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> 17000
21:39:41 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> carpet of flying
21:39:43 <Avatar> I already have a witch
21:39:44 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> 20000
21:39:54 <Avatar> carpet eh
21:40:01 <Avatar> what are the mechanics like on that
21:40:19 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/carpet-of-flying
21:41:27 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> do you even know about the SRD?
21:41:31 <Avatar> you can squeeze 2 people on a 5ft x 5ft square can't you
21:41:39 <Avatar> yes I know about the SRD
21:42:24 <Avatar> isn't it better to get boots than a carpet
21:42:56 <Avatar> oh, 3/day, 5 minutes each flight
21:43:18 <Avatar> a flying carpet would be cool
21:43:47 <Avatar> I like the idea of being able to sit down, have the carpet fly my around, and shoot
21:44:04 <Avatar> hell I could lay prone for the +4 bonus and still move around and shoot !
21:51:00 <Avatar> not that I really need a higher to-hit bonus
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22:18:52 <Steven> I dont believe you get a +4 bonus for laying down on a carpet of flying.
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22:46:41 <Steven> what up shifty
22:47:14 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Not much
22:47:22 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Looking at my Pathfinder Overhaul
22:47:38 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Thinking about running a game here.
22:47:47 <Steven> i lack context for that statement
22:47:52 <Steven> and you should totaly run a game here!
22:48:05 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Maybe.
22:48:13 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I'll see how I feel.
22:48:52 <Falang> I'll be looking forward to it
22:49:46 <Steven> I think i should run something today.
22:51:15 <Falang> who's up for some of my fresh batch of Panang?!
22:51:28 <Mekkis> sure
22:53:31 <Steven> little early for curry for me
22:54:03 <Falang> I love making curry, the smell just fills the house.
22:54:31 <Falang> it's even better now that I started using these tiny little thai eggplant things
22:59:18 <Steven> damn it, theres an error when i go to update my scenarios GMed
23:00:08 <Steven> well, suppose i wont have an updated list then
23:07:29 <Mekkis> Anyone seen wrothmonk today?
23:10:30 <Falang> nope, kinda strange actually
23:11:08 <Steven> he's a kid and subject to his parents whims. They may have grounded him from the computer
23:11:24 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> oh god
23:11:34 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> the other non-society game runner is a kid?
23:11:41 <Rignesis> how old are you here?
23:11:57 <Rignesis> 28 here
23:11:58 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i only got here tonight
23:12:04 <Falang> I'll be running a game soon as well, and I'm as old as two Wroths put together
23:12:08 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i am hungry for RPGs
23:12:12 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> i am 21
23:12:41 <Rignesis> falang - you 44?
23:13:05 <Falang> uhhhhh, he's not that old is he? that's hardly a kid.
23:13:10 <Falang> I'm not that damn old, no.
23:13:22 <Rignesis> so how old are you? :D
23:13:24 <Falang> 38 last I checked, but I'm not known to be reliable in remembering it.
23:13:54 <Rignesis> and what about mekkis?
23:14:07 <Falang> who knows
23:14:10 <Falang> I'm apparently the oldest person in here
23:14:20 <Falang> which means you must OBEY!@#
23:14:31 <Mekkis> My age in yours can be stored in five bits.
23:14:35 <Mekkis> s/yours/years/
23:15:09 <Falang> I'm sorry, it seems Mekkis was dropped repeatedly on his head as a baby and somehow overstimulated some kind of nerd gland.
23:15:56 <Rignesis> he is australian military secret project - and talks in code
23:16:41 <Rignesis> most likely - higly flammable
23:18:29 <Mekkis> So. Are you a Norwegian spy, or a Latvian spy?
23:19:40 <Mekkis> I'm assuming Latvian, Rignesis. I also think your netadmin is a lazy bastard.
23:21:01 <Falang> no reverse dns again?
23:21:11 <Mekkis> nope
23:21:43 <Falang> God that's annoying, I've never understood that. Mine does show up locally, but won't resolve from austnet at least.. I can't say I'm surprised.
23:21:59 <Falang> Like reverse DNS is so damn hard or something
23:22:04 <Mekkis> does mine show up?
23:24:50 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Okay
23:24:52 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> So
23:24:57 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> The game that I'm running
23:25:04 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Or going to run
23:25:09 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> One I get everything together
23:25:14 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Is going to be a zombie game
23:25:18 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> In the style of L4D2
23:25:34 <Falang> I've been meaning to play that ever since I got it on sale on steam..
23:26:35 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> I've played it so much that I'm in the top 3% of players
23:26:38 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> according to Raptr
23:27:09 <Falang> well shit, when I do I'll be sure to bug you for tips
23:28:08 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> It is a game that seems simple
23:28:18 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> but has a deep complexity
23:28:37 <Mekkis> so trying to organise a resistance and find a safehouse?
23:28:49 <Mekkis> consecrated ground?
23:29:00 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> It's.....
23:29:02 <Mekkis> or four gunslingers?
23:29:08 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Well, the zombies aren't entirely unholy
23:29:10 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> No
23:29:14 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> No gunslingers
23:29:33 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Swashbucklers, a melee class that replaces them, yes
23:29:53 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> But you can be any class
23:29:59 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> except gunslinger
23:30:34 <Falang> I'll treat it like a game of CoC, I'll be a Running specialist ;)
23:31:14 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> to bad that the zombies are faster
23:31:23 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> you obviously haven't played L4D2
23:31:47 <Mekkis> What's the background?
23:33:35 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> What do you mean?
23:33:41 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> Because if you mean the origin of the zombies
23:33:45 <Mekkis> no
23:34:08 <Mekkis> I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "in the style of L4D2"
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23:51:17 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> It's a collaborative worldbuilding effort
23:55:59 <SHIFTKEYGIRL> So who's up that wants in on this?