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02:25:40 <Hydrazine> Hey Avatar, you around?
02:26:32 <Hydrazine> You play a gunslinger. Prepare to have your mind blown.
02:27:28 <Hydrazine> I just learned that the record for putting 12 shots on target at 15ft from a single six shot revolver, is 2.99 seconds.
02:29:03 <Avatar-> yeah
02:29:07 <Avatar-> almost home
02:30:41 <Avatar-> how is that possible
02:31:50 <Hydrazine> Mind=blown? Makes Buck look like an arthritic octogenarian huh?
02:32:45 <Hydrazine> He uses moon clips, which is a little metal deal that wholes all six cases of a revolver load together. But the rest of it is that hes just fuckin' quick.
02:33:44 <Hydrazine> Same dude holds the record for 5 revolver shots on target in .57 seconds.
02:41:06 <Avatar> I hope I never have to GM shades of ice 2 again
02:41:20 <Avatar> after GMing it 3 times and playing it, I'm quite sick of doing it over and over
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03:07:32 <Brunius> I don't believe that, hydra.
03:17:57 <Hydrazine> Don't believe what about it?
03:18:45 <Hydrazine> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giSaNiQ-Wb4
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03:57:01 <rzv> evening gents
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04:01:30 <Hithaer> herro
04:01:44 <rzv> hows life?
04:02:00 <Hithaer> migraine today
04:02:19 <Hithaer> yay for not fun saturdays
04:02:52 <rzv> :<
04:03:11 Hithaer is now known as Steven
04:03:13 <rzv> i used to have week long headaches broken up by migraines
04:03:27 <Steven> Thats my life.
04:03:33 <rzv> and then i started drinking tea religously, no joke
04:03:43 <rzv> im like a crack addict
04:04:19 <rzv> but na still get migraines now and then, i just take a pill and have like an hours nap
04:05:28 <rzv> went shopping today, bought a crate of tonic water
04:05:30 <rzv> so good
04:07:18 <Steven> this is how often i get migraines.
04:07:25 <Steven> i got up, sams like how ya doin steve
04:07:42 <rzv> haha
04:07:56 <Steven> i reply my head is cracking in half, i got a migraine and its a bad one
04:08:17 <Steven> Sam says, damn that sucks we need to go to the store in about an hour
04:08:48 <Steven> I reply im not going, i am going to go lay down and not move for the rest of the day
04:09:00 <Steven> she says, man up, we got shit to do!
04:09:08 <Steven> what a beotch!
04:09:16 <Steven> so now im just gonna suffer through it.
04:09:25 <rzv> you should be all like
04:09:30 <rzv> have you considered nope
04:09:32 <Brunius> http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=612
04:09:35 <Brunius> Dear god
04:11:06 <Steven> she says we are going
04:11:10 <Steven> so we will be going
04:11:24 <Steven> i just got done swallowing some meds
04:11:47 <Steven> so it will take the edge off and ill be crawling through the store in like 45
04:22:35 <Brunius> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47396187/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.T69utVL_lGd
04:24:48 <Steven> so how did you like last night?
04:25:46 <rzv> was really fun yeah
04:25:56 <rzv> perhaps though
04:26:04 <rzv> my negative stats werent the most useful
04:26:12 <rzv> flavour i suppose
04:26:17 <rzv> sleep was pretty useful
04:26:23 <rzv> though i can see it becoming less so over time
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04:38:06 <Steven> damn it, sam is seriously being a bitch today. I gotta go to the store see ya later.
04:38:44 <rzv> cya dude
04:38:45 <rzv> take care
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05:07:08 <Steven> ah yes.... its a fight day.
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05:22:40 <rzv> just got done in bf3
05:22:49 <rzv> sniping first time in a while, 18/2
05:22:50 <rzv> :D
05:26:08 <Steven> yeah. today sucks dick. big fat one...
05:26:44 <rzv> cheer up dude, it could be a zombie apocalypse
05:27:02 <Steven> sir, if it was ZA i would be having lots of fun
05:27:12 <Steven> killing my neighbors that i hate because they were 'zombies'
05:28:27 <Steven> okay probably not...
05:28:39 <rzv> would you go on a cricket bat rampage
05:28:50 <Steven> but they would finally stop pissing me off and show me some fuckin respect
05:28:58 <Steven> when i moved in, they helped me move in
05:29:04 <Steven> and they are ultra liberals
05:29:12 <Steven> like.... ultra ultra
05:29:44 <Steven> but they were nice and helped us move in
05:30:19 <rzv> i never really identified with liberal/conservative
05:30:44 <rzv> suppose ive got a different upbringing (conservative?) but raised in a pretty liberal place
05:30:47 <Steven> and i had my gun case, full of my shotguns, rifles and hand guns
05:31:00 <Steven> and they flipped out on me
05:31:08 <Steven> like i was going to murder them in their sleep
05:31:22 <rzv> lol
05:31:30 <Steven> and i was like, chill out they are all locked, unloaded, and are for ZA
05:31:36 <rzv> i dont particularly see a need for guns tbh
05:31:37 <rzv> za?
05:31:58 <Steven> Zombie apoch
05:32:23 <rzv> aha
05:32:29 <rzv> have you read World War Z?
05:32:34 <Steven> yes
05:32:39 <Steven> read and enjoyed
05:32:57 <Steven> but yeah
05:32:59 <Steven> I dont hunt
05:33:03 <Steven> but i like to shoot
05:33:33 <rzv> i know some guys that were working on the wwz movie
05:33:36 <rzv> it got put on holf
05:33:38 <rzv> hold
05:33:42 <rzv> changed director or something
05:33:43 <rzv> again
05:34:07 <Steven> but yeah man, ide love for ZA to happen, cause the first thing ide do i put on my guns, and go knock on their door
05:34:15 <Steven> and when they answer it and piss themselves
05:34:30 <Steven> ill just be like, yeah remember that day i said i had these for? its here... wanna borrow a gun?
05:35:02 <Steven> when they sob out a yes, ill be like NO BITCH YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO SHOOT!
05:35:17 <Steven> slap em with my cock and walk back over to my place and finish packing
05:35:22 <rzv> rofl
05:35:44 <Steven> then before i leave ill pick them up and take them with us, because we will need slaves
05:36:17 <Steven> and... if we get surrounded, i can use one of them as bait... probably the woman cause shes annoying as shit
05:37:28 <Steven> wow....
05:37:35 <Steven> sams not mad.
05:37:54 <Steven> she just called me and said thanks...
05:37:59 <Steven> cause i dropped her off at the store
05:38:09 <Steven> and then i drove back home, and she was pissed
05:38:20 <Steven> but i came home, gave amy 200 bucks and told her which store i left sam at
05:38:31 <Steven> and told em to go shopping and have lunch
05:38:40 <Steven> so..... yeah.... i guess its not fight day
05:38:41 <rzv> best if a slave doesn't know it is one :p
05:38:57 <rzv> whoa irc lag
05:39:22 <Steven> so, amy and sam out shopping.
05:39:39 <Steven> having lunch, and im getting to sit here and not dealing with a loud store
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05:48:52 <Steven> kick ass, Big kyle comming over from west side to Gm next week
05:49:08 <rzv> i dont even know what that means
05:49:44 <Steven> Big kyle is one of the VCs of Washington
05:49:50 <Steven> VC=Venture Captain
05:49:59 <rzv> yeah youve lost me
05:50:06 <Steven> its like middle management
05:50:59 <Steven> Paizo>Venture Captains>Venture Lieutenants>GMs>Players
05:51:09 <rzv> ah
05:51:20 <Steven> authority wise
05:51:54 <Steven> my friend walter has his name in the hat to become a VC of eastern washington
05:53:34 <Steven> at which point one of the GMs down at the shop will likely become his VL
05:53:48 <rzv> thats kinda cool
05:53:56 <Steven> and that pretty much means either Tovah, Bobby, or me
05:54:01 <rzv> though i have to be honest
05:54:06 <rzv> if id picked a title
05:54:12 <rzv> it wouldnt be venture captain
05:54:57 <rzv> it would be
05:55:01 <rzv> dunno, KING OF SPACE
05:56:05 <Steven> well if you remember, Venture-Captains are people in Pathfinder Society
05:56:16 <Steven> that give missions and regulate the society
05:56:16 <rzv> i dont know the lore all too well
05:56:22 <rzv> had the book like a day D:
05:57:32 <Steven> yes, but last night we had a mission, we were given that mission by a venture captain
05:58:39 <rzv> you mean the overall one
05:58:44 <rzv> not the faction one?
05:58:52 <Steven> the over all one
06:00:45 <Steven> i am gonna GM tomorrow
06:00:54 <Steven> with Quest for Perfect part 2
06:01:09 <rzv> is that here or in your store?
06:01:14 <Steven> store
06:01:44 <Steven> because walter was like, steve are you gonna gm qfp2 cause otherwise bobby is going to do it and kill everyone.
06:06:55 <Steven> btw, bobby=GM who likes to kill people and tpk whenever possible by making bad gm calls and rules comboing thats not possible
06:07:06 <rzv> sounds like
06:07:10 <rzv> not a good gm
06:07:11 <rzv> ?
06:07:21 <Steven> like mounting an invisible creature while invisible, without ride checks
06:07:56 <Steven> and then flying around the area summoning creatures, without of course making any sound
06:08:07 <Steven> and without ride checks
06:08:30 <Steven> good ole bobby!
06:09:45 <Steven> he tried to justify it the other day by saying while mounted you dont need to make ride checks to keep riding and i'd say thats true
06:09:56 <rzv> >not mounted
06:10:00 <rzv> argument is invalid
06:10:41 <Steven> actually, you dont need to make ride checks so long as all your doing is sitting on a mount while is walking
06:10:53 <Steven> but to do anything else you need to make checks
06:11:42 <Steven> and ide say you need to make ride checks if you're riding on the back of an invisable flying Giant bat.
06:36:30 <rzv> yeah but you said he was invisible mounting an invisible mount
06:36:42 <rzv> dunno about you but the thing youre getting on is invisible
06:36:52 <rzv> itd be problematic
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07:48:00 <Steven> yeah....
07:48:04 <Steven> girls still out shopping
07:48:32 <Steven> guess that extra 200 is letting them have tons of fun
07:57:53 <Steven> i mean, i dont get to buy any magic cards cause that was my card fund
07:58:04 <Steven> but... im pretty sure this will pay off better in the long run
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08:24:38 <Avatar> zzzz
08:24:50 <Steven> you goin to sleep or wakin up avatar?
08:24:55 <Steven> im guessing waking up
08:25:03 <Avatar> waking up :P
08:25:09 <Steven> welcoem back to the land of the living
08:29:55 <Steven> im GMing Quest for perf part 2 tomorrow avatar
08:30:42 <Steven> walter asked me to do it so bobby wont do it and kill people tomorrow.
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08:45:18 <Avatar> good scenario
08:45:24 <Avatar> some people don't really like it
08:45:32 <Avatar> I don't understand why, it's fun
08:45:41 <Steven> i can see how certain parts of it would be exceptionally annoying for people
08:45:54 <Avatar> I think you have to be pretty nitpicky to let it bother you though
08:46:16 <Avatar> there is one part where it says you fail the mission if this happens, which is pretty silly
08:47:09 <Steven> yeah, ive never liked the save or die spells, or do X or fail missions
08:48:15 <Avatar> well I'm talking about if the boat is destroyed
08:48:22 <Avatar> I assume it's there for convenience sake
08:48:44 <Steven> yeah
08:48:50 <Avatar> it says you get stranded, but everywhere seems reachable by land anyway
08:49:07 <Steven> yeah, i think its by time...
08:49:12 <Avatar> one of the encounters proves you can keep up with the boat, questioning why you need a boat at all (again, for convenience of the scenario, I'd guess)
08:49:23 <Steven> if you crash the boat you cant get to the 3rd part of the scenario in time for the village not to get ruined
08:49:57 <Avatar> to cross the sea of eels
08:50:35 <Avatar> the thing is by that point in the series, you don't even know about the town's crisis
08:50:40 <Avatar> so how do you explain the failure
08:50:50 <Avatar> "get another boat" doesn't cut it
08:50:51 <rzv> with magic
08:51:02 <Avatar> what do you mean with magic
08:51:13 <Avatar> it can't be done yo
08:51:19 <rzv> its magic
08:51:20 <Steven> yeah, ide explain it as the society is not pleased with your destruction of the boat and fail to pay you any gold as they ahve to replace the boat
08:51:34 <Steven> ide probably still give them the experince based on how many encounters they defeated
08:52:05 <Avatar> I mean, the town is in crisis when you get there, not by a certain time
08:52:09 <Avatar> there's no time constraint in part 2
08:52:46 <Avatar> I'm running shades of ice 2 today
08:52:57 <Avatar> next weekend I can finally get back to running something here
08:53:21 <Avatar> I was meant to be running part 3 of shades of ice, but we haven't had much luck getting parts 1 and 2 going
08:54:00 <Steven> yeah, ide make them pay for the boat by forfeiting the gold on the scenario sheet, and 1 prestige max if they completed faction scenario, but none from completing mission
08:54:20 <Avatar> you can't forfeit all the gold
08:54:28 <Avatar> they get at least as much as they got up to
08:54:35 <Avatar> they just don't get the second prestige point
08:54:46 <Avatar> eventually they get to the town
08:54:55 <Avatar> and THEN it's in crisis :P
08:54:58 <Steven> no, i mean, the society makes them pay back the cost of the boat.
08:55:23 <Avatar> the boat's safety was never guaranteed if it came under attack
08:55:29 <Avatar> that's just the way of life
08:55:32 <Steven> yeah
08:56:05 <Avatar> there is something in another scenario that talks about what to do if your method of transportation is lost
08:56:15 <Avatar> nothing like that in QFP 2, but there should be
08:56:22 <Avatar> it's just a penalty
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08:57:02 <Steven> im looking forward to tomorrow.
08:57:24 <Steven> should be pretty damned fun...
08:57:45 <rzvlptp> stubbed my toe god damn
08:57:47 * Mort- bites hydrazine
08:58:17 <Steven> mort... you are evil
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08:59:09 <Steven> thats an unprovoked attack on a person with a biological weapon...
08:59:10 <mortswishytail> I'm not
08:59:30 <rzvlptp> in before the prions
08:59:50 <mortswishytail> There are reasons
09:00:07 <Steven> what are your reasons?
09:00:48 <mortswishytail> Done
09:00:54 <mortswishytail> Time to go
09:02:11 <Steven> so you attack and leave before explaining your vicious attack
09:02:19 <Steven> so evil!
09:02:36 <mortswishytail> I needed to get his attention
09:02:48 * mortswishytail rawrs
09:06:36 <rzvlptp> brother's ex wants to talk
09:06:44 <rzvlptp> im playing battlefield with brother
09:06:45 <rzvlptp> nope.avi
09:06:50 <Steven> lol
09:10:35 <Steven> brb, sams finally jome
09:14:08 <mortswishytail> Bb
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09:15:03 <Steven> like 6 bags!
09:18:14 <Steven> im guessing they had fun
09:18:42 <Steven> cause its 'fashion show' time
09:19:56 <Avatar> rzv have you rolled up a character yet
09:20:36 <rzvlptp> for what?
09:20:48 <rzvlptp> the one i had yesterday?
09:20:54 <rzvlptp> is a sorc1
09:21:40 <rzvlptp> or do i need to roll another?
09:22:25 <Steven> so what you doin tonight shades of ice part 2?
09:24:57 <rzvlptp> im confused
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09:32:33 <rzvlptp> avatar, character for what?
09:34:32 <Steven> give him some time, he just woke up
09:35:51 <rzvlptp> i just got shot in the butt :(
09:38:47 <Steven> with
09:38:51 <Steven> hammer?
09:38:57 <Steven> bullet?
09:39:00 <Steven> needle?
09:39:01 <rzvlptp> bullets
09:39:10 <rzvlptp> from a pp2000
09:39:19 <rzvlptp> i was running away like a coward
09:39:23 <rzvlptp> D:
09:43:30 <Steven> chicken!
09:44:23 <rzvlptp> i plant c4 on the objective and im basically bleeding my intestines out
09:44:28 <rzvlptp> and then im like ok ill leave, they can cover it
09:44:35 <rzvlptp> nope, team runs off in other direction
09:44:42 <rzvlptp> and then i get teamkilled
09:44:42 <Steven> duh
09:49:52 <Steven> my god....
09:50:01 <Steven> this show is going to make me gain like 70lbs
09:50:36 <Steven> Cake Boss...
09:50:44 <Avatar> rzv: for pathfinder society
09:50:58 <Avatar> do you plan on playing
09:51:02 <Steven> Sam showed it to me, i am craving cake.... so much.
09:52:09 <rzvlptp> ah yeah
09:52:11 <rzvlptp> i have er
09:52:19 <rzvlptp> a sorc1 that i played with yesterday
09:52:29 <rzvlptp> but if i need to roll another sure
09:53:33 <Avatar> you can roll anything you like and apply the experience and gold to the "real" character
09:53:40 <Avatar> or you can keep using that pregen's stats
09:53:56 <Avatar> either way you'll want to draw up a proper character sheet
09:54:10 <Avatar> or when you level up and buy equipment and whatnot, it'll get messy
09:55:09 <Avatar> using a pregen without doing anything really only works for the first scenario, or first three if you keep some semblance of notetaking
09:55:48 <rzvlptp> do i need to get ballig to give me another id?
09:55:53 <rzvlptp> for the upload thin
09:55:55 <rzvlptp> thing*
09:56:05 <Avatar> you just need to tell ballig or me your character's name
09:56:14 <Avatar> and register yourself on the site
09:56:24 <rzvlptp> ive got a char on the site already
09:56:38 <rzvlptp> Vade is the name, 418 i think
09:56:43 <Avatar> what's your username
09:56:48 <rzvlptp> vargiton
09:57:09 <Avatar> got thrown off because you didn't use your nickname
09:57:28 <Avatar> yeah Vade is fine
09:57:34 <Avatar> is that the character you used
09:57:36 <rzv> yeah
09:57:40 <Avatar> you're laughing then
09:57:44 <Avatar> all the way to the bank
09:58:02 <Avatar> did you die
09:58:04 <rzv> nope
09:58:08 <Avatar> yeah you're laughing
09:58:35 <rzv> do i need to do anything?
09:58:46 <rzv> i was keeping track of stuff on my local char sheet
09:59:15 <Avatar> you need to keep the online one updated
09:59:35 <rzv> i was under the impression you dont keep gear, right?
09:59:40 <Avatar> right
09:59:42 <rzv> or rather stuff you loot
09:59:44 <Avatar> only what you buy
09:59:52 <Avatar> looted stuff is gone
09:59:58 <Avatar> unless you "rebuy" it from the pathfinder society
10:00:12 <rzv> so i'd keep hot weather gear and waterskins?
10:00:16 <rzv> etc
10:00:20 <Avatar> if you paid for it, yeah
10:05:14 <rzv> ok updated
10:05:37 <rzv> dont know about the xp etc though
10:06:10 <rzv> 1 point per thing isnt it
10:06:38 <Steven> 1 xp per scenario, 3xp to level
10:07:16 <Steven> 3xp for a fully completed module
10:07:39 <Avatar> you'll rarely play the modules
10:07:44 <Avatar> 1 exp per scenario
10:08:54 <rzv> kk updated on the site
10:10:39 <Steven> im so glad my animal companion didnt die yesterday
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10:11:40 <Steven> down at the shop, dms love to kill familiars and animal companions
10:12:14 <rzvlptp> lol
10:12:53 <Steven> we have a person named tovah who gms now
10:13:09 <Steven> and shes gone through like 6 pets
10:15:12 <Avatar> who played yesterday
10:15:20 <Avatar> I don't think I recognised any names
10:16:07 <rzvlptp> er
10:16:08 <rzvlptp> steven
10:16:10 <Steven> i played as Hithaer, Mordant Elf Druid
10:16:11 <rzvlptp> hydrazine
10:16:19 <rzvlptp> mort
10:17:46 <Avatar> hydrazine and mort?
10:18:02 <Avatar> man now I am definitely feeling out of the loop
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18:51:05 <Avatar> what do you mean with magic
18:51:13 <Mekkis> did you run it today, Avatar?
18:51:16 <Avatar> it can't be done yo
18:51:22 <rzv> its magic
18:51:22 <Steven> yeah, ide explain it as the society is not pleased with your destruction of the boat and fail to pay you any gold as they ahve to replace the boat
18:51:37 <Steven> ide probably still give them the experince based on how many encounters they defeated
18:52:08 <Avatar> I mean, the town is in crisis when you get there, not by a certain time
18:52:12 <Avatar> there's no time constraint in part 2
18:52:49 <Avatar> I'm running shades of ice 2 today
18:52:59 <Avatar> next weekend I can finally get back to running something here
18:53:24 <Avatar> I was meant to be running part 3 of shades of ice, but we haven't had much luck getting parts 1 and 2 going
18:54:03 <Steven> yeah, ide make them pay for the boat by forfeiting the gold on the scenario sheet, and 1 prestige max if they completed faction scenario, but none from completing mission
18:54:22 <Avatar> you can't forfeit all the gold
18:54:31 <Avatar> they get at least as much as they got up to
18:54:38 <Avatar> they just don't get the second prestige point
18:54:49 <Avatar> eventually they get to the town
18:54:58 <Avatar> and THEN it's in crisis :P
18:55:00 <Steven> no, i mean, the society makes them pay back the cost of the boat.
18:55:26 <Avatar> the boat's safety was never guaranteed if it came under attack
18:55:32 <Avatar> that's just the way of life
18:55:35 <Steven> yeah
18:56:08 <Avatar> there is something in another scenario that talks about what to do if your method of transportation is lost
18:56:18 <Avatar> nothing like that in QFP 2, but there should be
18:56:24 <Avatar> it's just a penalty
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18:57:05 <Steven> im looking forward to tomorrow.
18:57:27 <Steven> should be pretty damned fun...
18:57:47 <rzvlptp> stubbed my toe god damn
18:57:50 * Mort- bites hydrazine
18:58:20 <Steven> mort... you are evil
18:59:11 <Steven> thats an unprovoked attack on a person with a biological weapon...
18:59:13 <mortswishytail> I'm not
18:59:33 <rzvlptp> in before the prions
18:59:53 <mortswishytail> There are reasons
19:00:10 <Steven> what are your reasons?
19:00:50 <mortswishytail> Done
19:00:57 <mortswishytail> Time to go
19:02:14 <Steven> so you attack and leave before explaining your vicious attack
19:02:22 <Steven> so evil!
19:02:39 <mortswishytail> I needed to get his attention
19:02:50 * mortswishytail rawrs
19:06:38 <rzvlptp> brother's ex wants to talk
19:06:46 <rzvlptp> im playing battlefield with brother
19:06:48 <rzvlptp> nope.avi
19:06:52 <Steven> lol
19:10:37 <Steven> brb, sams finally jome
19:14:11 <mortswishytail> Bb
19:15:06 <Steven> like 6 bags!
19:18:16 <Steven> im guessing they had fun
19:18:44 <Steven> cause its 'fashion show' time
19:19:59 <Avatar> rzv have you rolled up a character yet
19:20:38 <rzvlptp> for what?
19:20:50 <rzvlptp> the one i had yesterday?
19:20:57 <rzvlptp> is a sorc1
19:21:42 <rzvlptp> or do i need to roll another?
19:22:26 <Avatar> yeah
19:22:28 <Steven> so what you doin tonight shades of ice part 2?
19:24:59 <rzvlptp> im confused
19:29:56 <Brunius> Man, this OS is more than a decade old
19:31:35 <Brunius> I should wait till SP3 is a decade old, then update
19:32:36 <rzvlptp> avatar, character for what?
19:34:34 <Steven> give him some time, he just woke up
19:35:53 <rzvlptp> i just got shot in the butt :(
19:38:50 <Steven> with
19:38:54 <Steven> hammer?
19:38:59 <Steven> bullet?
19:39:03 <Steven> needle?
19:39:04 <rzvlptp> bullets
19:39:12 <rzvlptp> from a pp2000
19:39:22 <rzvlptp> i was running away like a coward
19:39:25 <rzvlptp> D:
19:43:33 <Steven> chicken!
19:44:25 <rzvlptp> i plant c4 on the objective and im basically bleeding my intestines out
19:44:31 <rzvlptp> and then im like ok ill leave, they can cover it
19:44:38 <rzvlptp> nope, team runs off in other direction
19:44:44 <rzvlptp> and then i get teamkilled
19:44:45 <Steven> duh
19:49:54 <Steven> my god....
19:50:03 <Steven> this show is going to make me gain like 70lbs
19:50:38 <Steven> Cake Boss...
19:50:47 <Avatar> rzv: for pathfinder society
19:51:01 <Avatar> do you plan on playing
19:51:05 <Steven> Sam showed it to me, i am craving cake.... so much.
19:52:12 <rzvlptp> ah yeah
19:52:13 <rzvlptp> i have er
19:52:21 <rzvlptp> a sorc1 that i played with yesterday
19:52:32 <rzvlptp> but if i need to roll another sure
19:53:36 <Avatar> you can roll anything you like and apply the experience and gold to the "real" character
19:53:43 <Avatar> or you can keep using that pregen's stats
19:53:59 <Avatar> either way you'll want to draw up a proper character sheet
19:54:12 <Avatar> or when you level up and buy equipment and whatnot, it'll get messy
19:55:12 <Avatar> using a pregen without doing anything really only works for the first scenario, or first three if you keep some semblance of notetaking
19:55:50 <rzvlptp> do i need to get ballig to give me another id?
19:55:55 <rzvlptp> for the upload thin
19:55:58 <rzvlptp> thing*
19:56:08 <Avatar> you just need to tell ballig or me your character's name
19:56:16 <Avatar> and register yourself on the site
19:56:27 <rzvlptp> ive got a char on the site already
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19:56:40 <rzvlptp> Vade is the name, 418 i think
19:56:46 <Avatar> what's your username
19:56:51 <rzvlptp> vargiton
19:57:01 <rzv> morning
19:57:11 <Avatar> got thrown off because you didn't use your nickname
19:57:21 <Avatar> yo
19:57:31 <Avatar> yeah Vade is fine
19:57:36 <Avatar> is that the character you used
19:57:39 <rzv> yeah
19:57:43 <Avatar> you're laughing then
19:57:46 <Avatar> all the way to the bank
19:58:04 <Avatar> did you die
19:58:07 <rzv> nope
19:58:11 <Avatar> yeah you're laughing
19:58:32 <rzv> hows life?
19:58:38 <rzv> do i need to do anything?
19:58:48 <rzv> i was keeping track of stuff on my local char sheet
19:59:11 <Avatar> kicking ass
19:59:17 <Avatar> you need to keep the online one updated
19:59:38 <rzv> i was under the impression you dont keep gear, right?
19:59:43 <Avatar> right
19:59:45 <rzv> or rather stuff you loot
19:59:46 <Avatar> only what you buy
19:59:54 <Avatar> looted stuff is gone
20:00:00 <Avatar> unless you "rebuy" it from the pathfinder society
20:00:14 <rzv> sounds good
20:00:15 <rzv> so i'd keep hot weather gear and waterskins?
20:00:19 <rzv> etc
20:00:23 <Avatar> if you paid for it, yeah
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20:03:13 <rzv> huh
20:03:21 <rzv> why is my laptop on
20:05:16 <rzv> ok updated
20:05:40 <rzv> dont know about the xp etc though
20:06:13 <rzv> 1 point per thing isnt it
20:06:40 <Steven> 1 xp per scenario, 3xp to level
20:07:19 <Steven> 3xp for a fully completed module
20:07:42 <Avatar> you'll rarely play the modules
20:07:46 <Avatar> 1 exp per scenario
20:08:57 <rzv> kk updated on the site
20:10:29 <rzv> god damn sister with her god damn facebook
20:10:41 <Steven> im so glad my animal companion didnt die yesterday
20:11:42 <Steven> down at the shop, dms love to kill familiars and animal companions
20:12:17 <rzvlptp> lol
20:12:56 <Steven> we have a person named tovah who gms now
20:13:12 <Steven> and shes gone through like 6 pets
20:15:15 <Avatar> who played yesterday
20:15:23 <Avatar> I don't think I recognised any names
20:16:09 <rzvlptp> er
20:16:11 <rzvlptp> steven
20:16:13 <Steven> i played as Hithaer, Mordant Elf Druid
20:16:14 <rzvlptp> hydrazine
20:16:22 <rzvlptp> mort
20:17:48 <Avatar> hydrazine and mort?
20:18:04 <Avatar> man now I am definitely feeling out of the loop
20:20:58 <Avatar> maybe she wanted to post a comment
20:21:07 <Avatar> or perhaps upload a photo
20:21:14 <Avatar> or share a link
20:23:13 <Steven> Hydra, Mort, RZV, Me... matt was there but had to go.
20:24:06 <Steven> there was one more, but i dont remember who it was
20:26:24 <Brunius> can't she use reddit for that
20:27:29 <Avatar> she can use facebook for that
20:27:45 <Avatar> or reddit
20:27:47 <Avatar> or google+
20:27:58 <Hydrazine> Sushi.
20:28:53 <Steven> yeah it was sushi
20:32:15 <Mekkis> interesting poll on IWC
20:34:15 <Mekkis> Avatar, have you bought any Paizo PDFs of hardcovers?
20:34:15 <Brunius> IWC?
20:34:33 <Mekkis> http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/3227.html
20:35:10 <Brunius> Chernobyl all the way
20:35:17 <Mekkis> that's what I voted
20:39:20 <Ballig> mmm sushi
20:41:11 <Avatar> just the core rulebook, APG and UC
20:41:27 <Avatar> all the scenarios I have are PDFs
20:41:37 <Mekkis> you have the PDFs?
20:41:42 <Avatar> yeah
20:41:48 <Mekkis> of the core rulebook?
20:41:59 <Avatar> no, the scenarios are PDFs
20:42:03 <Avatar> the rulebooks are hardcopy
20:42:05 <Mekkis> ah
20:42:14 <Avatar> hardcover*
20:42:19 <Mekkis> Paizo released the lite editions of the PDFs
20:42:22 <Mekkis> of the hardcovers
20:42:34 <Mekkis> I was wondering how they performed on the kindle
20:42:43 <Avatar> sec
20:42:45 <Mekkis> the ISWG is pretty good on the nook
20:44:54 <Avatar> you might have to link me, I can't find it
20:45:04 <Steven> were having Pastrami Sandwich
20:45:22 <Mekkis> it was emailed to me
20:45:31 <Mekkis> As of today, the PDFs for Paizo's Pathfinder Roleplaying Game hardcovers and the Inner Sea World Guide have been updated to include a more screen friendly Lite download option. This download option improves viewing performance on various tablets, phones and other devices. Going forward, all PDFs of hard cover products will have both a normal PDF download and a Lite PDF download. They will continue to be available in One File per Chapter and Single File
20:45:31 <Mekkis> formats.
20:45:49 <Avatar> oh
20:46:04 <Avatar> yeah I can't check that
20:46:07 <Mekkis> (the only hardcover I've bought the PDF for is the ISWG)
20:48:19 <Brunius> I might get the ISWG if it performs ok on my ereader
20:48:26 <Brunius> what does the lite pdf entail?
20:48:38 <Brunius> http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/
20:49:47 <Avatar> I don't think I've seen any pdf perform well on the kindle
20:50:13 <rzv> dont really have problems with pdfs on my prs-505
20:50:41 <Mekkis> I don't think I've used anything other than PDFs on my nook
20:50:48 <rzv> that said i end up converting everything to epub now
20:51:00 <Mekkis> something about needing a US credit card to buy books off them
20:51:15 <Mekkis> and having several tens of gigabytes of books on my laptop...
20:51:23 <Avatar> the SRD "performs" well, but reading the second column is near impossible unless you view the whole thing at fit-to-screen
20:51:27 <Avatar> and the font is too small for that
20:51:27 <rzv> yeah ive got a bit og a library now ;D
20:51:40 <Avatar> I'd be considering it for my mobile, not for my kindle
20:51:44 <rzv> of*
20:52:11 <rzv> much prefer reading off e-ink tbh
20:52:40 <Avatar> not if you can only read one column
20:52:51 <Brunius> yeah that's a pain
20:53:05 <rzv> ah i mean books or textbooks
20:53:11 <rzv> havent tried any paizo stuff
20:53:24 <Avatar> this is just the core rulebook SRD that I'm talking about
20:53:27 <Mekkis> if you want to crash your ereader, open the core rulebook :)
20:53:31 <Avatar> which the kindle can handle
20:53:56 <rzv> wouldnt it be a bit cumbersome to find stuff on the ereader
20:54:22 <rzv> the e-ink screen on mine isnt particularly fast
20:54:35 <Avatar> yeah there's no bookmarking options
20:54:36 <Brunius> I've opened the core rulebook, Mekkis
20:54:42 <Brunius> It doesn't take that long
20:54:47 <Mekkis> rzv, the core rulebook is a horrible PDF when it comes to opening
20:54:57 <Mekkis> Brunius, what ereader are you using?
20:55:08 <Brunius> I've tried it on the cheap kmart one and a kobo
20:56:22 <Brunius> Of course, this is the cracked pdf, so it might load faster because of that
20:56:36 <rzv> been thinking of upgrading to a new ereader but i got a funky limited edition one so i always end up doing nothing
20:57:26 <Avatar> I can open the core rulebook on the kindle, it's just painfully slow and impractical
20:57:36 <Avatar> like 1-2 minutes per page
20:57:40 <Mekkis> Avatar, that's what I mean
20:57:53 <Brunius> I was getting 30-40 seconds/page on the kobo
20:57:58 <Brunius> didn't bother checking on the kmart one
20:58:43 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm looking at running God's Market Gamble
20:59:33 <rzv> you know when you listen to a song and its got a section in some obscure language
20:59:43 <rzv> and then you recognise it and youre like god damn
20:59:43 <rzv> o/
20:59:44 <Avatar> yeah I'm running a game this weekend too
21:00:01 <Mekkis> no problem
21:00:06 <Avatar> is ballig running one
21:00:07 <Mekkis> 27th fine?
21:00:14 <Mekkis> ummm
21:00:20 <Mekkis> or the 26th
21:00:26 <Mekkis> I'm not fussy
21:01:08 <Avatar> is hydrazine level 5 yet
21:01:40 <Mekkis> don't think so
21:01:56 <Avatar> he didn't play jerus in your one did he
21:01:59 <Mekkis> nope
21:02:12 <Mekkis> someone needs to run something for Jerus and Bairaq
21:02:39 <Avatar> shades of ice 3 would be ideal
21:02:43 <Avatar> but parts 1 and 2 haven't worked out
21:02:43 <rzv> dont suppose there's anything a level 1 derp can join in on?
21:03:16 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure something'll run for 1-5 this weekend
21:03:37 <rzv> cool beans
21:04:04 <MincedSushi> :3
21:04:24 <MincedSushi> Hey guys what's happening?
21:04:47 <Brunius> Aren't you scheduled in for SoI 3 at GG:B?
21:05:02 <Avatar> no, I haven't run it before
21:05:25 <Avatar> I'm not keen to run anything in person that I haven't run online
21:05:47 <rzv> pradanna vadanaa, saubhaagadam*
21:05:48 <Avatar> brunius do you want to play this weekend
21:05:55 <rzv> tits, sorry
21:06:10 <Mekkis> I'm free mon,tue,wed this week, too!
21:06:11 <Brunius> Assuming nothing comes up
21:06:49 <Avatar> rzv: is getting up early a problem for you
21:06:50 <Brunius> Might want to check that darkwhite hasn't assumed you're running SoI3
21:06:55 <Brunius> It's set up on the site
21:07:00 <Avatar> like 3am early
21:07:03 <Brunius> (And it's gone to the waitlist)
21:07:12 <rzv> na i should be ok if you give me a bit of warning
21:07:15 <rzv> enough time for a nap :p
21:07:17 <Avatar> ashley's running shades 3
21:08:00 <Brunius> Ah, good
21:08:46 <Avatar> the only ones I can run with you in it brunius are beggar's pearl and slave pits of absalom
21:08:56 <Brunius> Ignore me then
21:09:04 <Brunius> What does that widen it to?
21:09:05 <Avatar> I haven't played slave pits since first arcanacon
21:09:21 <Avatar> a lot more
21:09:42 <Mekkis> Brunius, you've played godsmouth?
21:10:10 <Avatar> I can run a lot of higher level ones
21:10:14 <rzv> when should i be getting up at 3am btw?
21:10:17 <Avatar> but I don't want to force you to use a character you don't want to use
21:10:25 <Brunius> godsmouth?
21:10:28 <Brunius> Maybe
21:10:30 <Mekkis> ummm
21:10:33 <Mekkis> God's Market
21:10:37 <Brunius> No
21:10:39 <Avatar> rzv: it's 9pm here now
21:10:40 <Brunius> Don't think so
21:10:47 <Avatar> and my game would start at 1pm
21:10:58 <Avatar> so 8 hours before now on either saturday or sunday
21:11:20 <Avatar> or possibly a friday night I guess
21:12:25 <rzv> AU is +9 right
21:12:29 <Brunius> +10
21:13:10 <rzv> mm 2am then
21:13:27 <Avatar> I could run CoTE
21:13:44 <Avatar> we have a few level 1s don't we
21:13:47 <Brunius> Surely we've got enough americans in here that you guys can start running at times more convienient to you
21:14:10 <rzv> ah im not bothered really, im gmt so bang in the middle
21:14:12 <Hydrazine> hm?
21:14:13 <Avatar> yeah at least one american GM would be good
21:14:13 <Hydrazine> What?
21:14:17 <Hydrazine> Was someone looking for me?
21:14:20 <Avatar> yeah
21:14:25 <Avatar> are you keen on playing CoTE
21:14:50 <Hydrazine> Thats like some bigger campaign sort of thing still under pfs type rules, yes?
21:14:55 <Avatar> it's a module
21:14:56 <Brunius> It's a module
21:14:57 <Avatar> you get 3 exp for it
21:15:21 <Avatar> it's supposed to last as long as 2 scenarios
21:15:32 <Avatar> so we could go potentially go all day saturday/sunday
21:15:40 <Mekkis> out of the modules I've played, Godsmouth Heresy was the bet
21:15:42 <Mekkis> best*
21:15:43 <Avatar> or over two weeks
21:16:00 <Steven> sam can kill the most disgusting, wicked looking spiders
21:16:04 <Hydrazine> This is relevant to my interests.
21:16:05 <Steven> without a seconds hesitation
21:16:09 <MincedSushi> XD
21:16:13 <Steven> but a bee shows up, and she flips out
21:16:15 <MincedSushi> Poor spiders
21:16:17 <Hydrazine> Also, yesterday's lasagna for breakfast.
21:16:19 <MincedSushi> Lol
21:16:19 <Avatar> Brunius?
21:16:23 <Brunius> Perhaps
21:16:36 <Mekkis> it doesn't help Bairaq hitting 5th :S
21:16:39 <MincedSushi> Were you her savoir?
21:16:43 <Brunius> Yeah :S
21:16:44 <Steven> yeah
21:17:00 <Avatar> yeah
21:17:03 <Steven> i convinced jerry to go to the store for the pastrami
21:17:04 <Avatar> slave pits of absalom might be the way to go
21:17:07 <rzv> out of curiosity do i have to play the same character or can i play another?
21:17:15 <Avatar> you can play another if you want
21:17:19 <Brunius> I've gotta sleep
21:17:22 <Brunius> Night guys
21:17:27 <rzv> night, take care
21:17:29 Brunius is now known as Brunius_AFK
21:19:06 <MincedSushi> Your roomate?
21:25:52 <Hydrazine> did you roll diplomacy?
21:30:31 <Steven> ahhhhh wake....
21:31:06 <rzv> its a lovely day today in london
21:31:08 <rzv> and i have a migraine
21:31:37 <Avatar> steven: GM a game
21:32:44 <Steven> right now?
21:32:48 <Steven> i just woke up
21:32:54 <Steven> i havent even taken my morning piss yet
21:33:11 <Avatar> not now
21:33:15 <Steven> i did
21:33:25 <Avatar> we need an american GM to GM people in dumb timezones
21:33:29 <Steven> I had to offer a bribe of buying him a 6 pack
21:33:31 <Avatar> like you and rzv
21:33:43 <Steven> told him if he went he could pick the beer
21:33:53 <Steven> i suppose that means i need to get my ca working
21:33:55 <Steven> if i went i was buying him Coors Light
21:33:59 <Avatar> darn tootin'
21:34:05 <Steven> i keep meaning to do it, and keep finding excuses not not
21:34:08 <Steven> too
21:34:18 <Steven> i mean, im not normally charismatic, but my situational modifiers were huge.
21:35:38 <Ballig> haha, yeah GM a game /right now/
21:36:17 <Steven> i mean, i can, ive got quest for perf part 2 right now memorized
21:36:19 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 1pm (Avatar, new game) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site!! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
21:36:39 <Steven> so i can run it tonight at the shop
21:36:40 <Avatar> I think just about everyone here has played that
21:36:54 <Steven> yeah, its a really good one
21:37:03 <Steven> the whole quest series was pretty fun
21:37:09 <Steven> i especially liked part 1
21:37:28 <Avatar> yeah I liked the whole series, couldn't pick a favourite
21:37:39 <Steven> brb, im gonna go take my morning piss and then start some coffee for the room mates
21:40:16 <Hydrazine> i think part 2 was my favorite.
21:43:33 <rzvlptp> hey hey dumb timezones
21:43:39 <rzvlptp> ill have you know im in the original timezone
21:43:45 <Avatar> was wondering if anyone would cotton onto that
21:45:44 <MincedSushi> Lol
21:45:53 <Ballig> I thought you were in the US
21:46:45 <Steven> nah, hes a brit
21:46:55 <rzv> nah england yeah
21:46:58 <rzv> london!
21:47:21 <Steven> ahhhh PFS bringing countries together
21:47:34 <Steven> to slaughter ficticious creatures
21:47:54 <Hydrazine> original timezone? I'm pretty sure they're all the same age.
21:48:00 <Brunius_AFK> I died in part 1
21:48:03 <Hydrazine> We had to pick one to start numbering on, thats all.
21:48:06 <rzv> well its +0 i suppose
21:48:18 <rzv> and to be fair it was pretty damn accurate
21:48:18 <rzv> GMT i mean
21:48:33 <Steven> actually as he put them on the globe and around the world as he drew the lines for +0
21:48:37 <Steven> it was created first
21:49:08 <Steven> unless of course he started with the Date line...
21:49:20 <Steven> at which point you arent the orginal
21:49:23 <paul_banks> Lol
21:49:55 <Avatar> trying something different
21:50:01 <Avatar> see who wants to come first, decide scenario later
21:50:25 <Steven> elaborate please...
21:50:53 <Avatar> not deciding on a scenario for saturday's game immediately
21:51:02 <Avatar> if you want to play a tier 1-5, accept
21:51:15 <Avatar> I'll choose an ideal scenario based on who accepts
21:51:34 <rzv> is there any class/role thats not usually around
21:51:38 <rzv> because i can roll one of it
21:51:42 <Steven> hmmmm, that could work, but it brings up logistical problems as well
21:51:56 <Avatar> what logistical problems
21:51:58 <rzv> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Greenwich_observatory_laser.jpg/587px-Greenwich_observatory_laser.jpg
21:51:59 <Avatar> rzv: ask hydrazine
21:52:03 <rzv> gmt has a laser
21:52:05 <rzv> ha!
21:52:13 <rzv> we win
21:52:20 <Avatar> you win
21:52:43 <Steven> you get everyone that accepts, and you pick a game the day you're playing
21:53:04 <Steven> then you have to rush to get all the pictures right
21:53:07 <rzv> mr hydrazine, are there any classes that are usually in short supply
21:53:15 <Steven> and read the scenario in a constrained time period
21:53:29 <Steven> i think both ways will work, but both have their draw backs
21:53:36 <Avatar> I rush anyway
21:53:45 <Steven> i say try it out for a few games see if its better or worse.
21:54:06 <Steven> plus you also have people(myself included) who dont update the games played sheet very often
21:54:14 <Avatar> it could be that we get players accepting who have too many scenarios already played that conflict
21:54:25 <Avatar> but at least I'll be able to give them a few day's notice
21:54:40 <rzv> if i completed a scenario all i have to do is upload the updated character sheet right
21:54:47 <Steven> ide still end up playing if possible
21:54:48 <Avatar> yeah
21:54:51 <rzv> cool beans
21:54:57 <Avatar> keep a collection of your chronicle sheets
21:54:59 <Steven> and it wouldnt be the first time ive played for no credit
21:55:05 <rzv> chronicle sheet?
21:55:19 <Steven> I need to get my chronicle sheet from mekkis
21:55:19 <Avatar> didn't mekkis send you a chronicle sheet
21:55:21 <rzv> nope
21:55:22 <Steven> not yet
21:55:30 <Avatar> get on his case about it, he's supposed to
21:55:35 <Mekkis> yeah
21:55:39 <Steven> he had to run as soon as we finished the scenario
21:55:44 <Steven> hey mek
21:55:46 <rzv> yeah he was busy
21:56:06 <Avatar> it's been 24 hours :P
21:56:13 <rzv> play 2 hours on karkand
21:56:25 <rzv> thats perhaps the worst way to unlock a weapon in a game, ever
21:56:37 <Mekkis> it's really hard to judge
21:56:39 <Mekkis> I mean
21:56:44 <Mekkis> this is a season zero scenario
21:56:51 <Mekkis> with two faction missions per faction
21:57:11 <Mekkis> as per the guide, I'm supposed to give you all a free prestige, with a potential maximum prestige of 3
21:57:16 <Mekkis> which doesn't sound right
21:57:24 <Avatar> doesn't that mean if you complete one or the other, it's 1 prestige
21:57:37 <Hydrazine> Hm? Oh. Um. Lets see.
21:57:42 <Mekkis> the guide says that if you complete one, you get 1 prestige
21:57:47 <Mekkis> because it's season 0
21:57:52 <Mekkis> which is wierd
21:58:13 <Steven> i think its if you complete your faction missions you get 1, if you complete the overall mission you get 1
21:58:28 <Steven> if a faction mission has two missions in it
21:58:34 <Steven> and you only complete 1
21:58:40 <Steven> you dont get your prestige for completing it
21:58:47 <Hydrazine> rzv, I haven't seen a rogue since fox played a pregen about a month ago. And I can't think of any other ones in active use.
21:59:04 <rzv> i'll take a look at rolling one then
21:59:12 <Ballig> this is Steven when he goes to make his sandwich: http://i.imgur.com/8rtrB.jpg
21:59:17 <Steven> its cause rogues are really boring to play once you actually understand how stealth works
21:59:31 <Hydrazine> But I also have yet to play a game with an alchemist in it, besides goblins.
21:59:32 <Mekkis> Steven, stealth works?
21:59:32 <Steven> because people are always like oh ill stealth and then stab then stealth again
21:59:49 <Brunius> ha
21:59:49 <Steven> and then the GM goes NO! the creature stabs you in the face
21:59:53 <Mekkis> stealth works through DM pity, and nothing else!
22:00:00 <Steven> exactly mek exactly
22:00:12 <Mekkis> oh
22:00:17 <Mekkis> let me rephrase that
22:00:24 <Mekkis> DM pity, or player cheese
22:00:25 <rzv> does rogue ranged sneak attack work properly at least
22:00:35 <Steven> yeah for one shot
22:00:51 <Steven> or one full round attack
22:00:55 <Mekkis> one shot per round, at a -10 penalty
22:00:56 <Steven> then you have to find a way to stealth again
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22:01:14 <Mekkis> or greater invisibility
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22:01:40 <Steven> yeah its basically do you have a way to get greater invisibility, no? okay your going to suck as a rogue
22:01:48 <Hydrazine> Ranged sneak attack makes me sad. It works, but its almost impossible to get more than one shot like that.
22:02:08 <Mekkis> Steven, that implies that greater invisibility makes a rogue not suck :S
22:02:15 <Steven> very true
22:02:25 <Steven> but im trying to paint it in a positive light for him lol
22:02:27 <Mekkis> (spoiler: it doesn't)
22:02:41 <Steven> and then you go and ruin it lol
22:03:08 <rzv> hmm
22:03:18 * Mekkis is considering making a dwarf paladin/rogue
22:03:21 <rzv> so ranged is pretty much out
22:03:25 <Steven> bitch please!
22:03:25 <Mekkis> wearing full plate
22:03:26 <Hydrazine> we don't have many bard either.
22:03:28 <rzv> any assassin class in pfs?
22:03:35 <Mekkis> Bards work.
22:03:38 <rzv> like, rogue+
22:03:48 <Avatar> ninja
22:03:51 <Steven> I go to the that plane to pick up the cheese
22:03:58 <Mekkis> rzv, Alchemist
22:04:08 <Mekkis> Vivisectionist
22:04:09 <Avatar> alchemists aren't assassins
22:04:21 <Mekkis> sure they can be
22:04:22 <Steven> yes there are assassins, bbut you cant be one
22:04:26 <rzv> vivisectionist sounds a bit jack the ripper
22:04:28 <Steven> because a prereq is being evil
22:04:32 <Steven> good cheese there
22:04:36 <Avatar> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/alternate-classes/ninja
22:04:49 <Hydrazine> I think I've atleast encountered in my time here, every base class in play in games, except an alchemist.
22:05:04 <Mekkis> if you want to play a roguish character, you probably shouldn't play a rogue
22:05:05 <Avatar> I actually have an alchemist waiting to be used
22:05:17 <rzv> ill have a look at alchemist
22:05:27 <Hydrazine> Oh, inquis. I haven't played with an inquis either. Steven's the only one I even know of who plays one.
22:05:29 <rzv> to be fair i did like gravity bow and a heavy crossbow
22:05:32 <rzv> that was pretty fun
22:05:38 <Steven> alchemist=wizard thats not a wizard
22:05:59 <Steven> yeah. Inquisitor=bad ass!
22:06:07 <rzv> ill take a look at alchemist and inquisitor
22:06:13 <rzv> if not ill roll a bard
22:06:18 <rzv> be all like
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22:06:24 <rzv> I STRIKE UP A TUNE
22:06:35 <Hydrazine> charisma based skills seem to be in demand.
22:06:49 <Steven> dont forget to look at archtypes
22:06:56 <Hydrazine> A few times we've gotten by in social interaction by the grace of Kyra-bot.
22:06:57 <rzv> i got to use one diplomacy check on the sorc
22:06:59 <rzv> got like 23
22:07:18 <rzv> and then i failed at standing up
22:07:21 <Steven> if you look at inquisitors, the archtypes are actually pretty powerful
22:07:28 <Mekkis> Steven, does Hithær have a dayjob?
22:07:53 <rzv> i can play these classes from the srd, or do i need to buy a book with them in
22:07:54 <Hydrazine> woah, he even pulled out the special characters for you.
22:07:59 <Mekkis> nope
22:08:01 <Hydrazine> Don't you feel special.
22:08:03 <Mekkis> just a compose key :)
22:09:04 <Mekkis> Steven, do you want me to mail you your chronicle sheets with my signature?
22:09:52 <Hydrazine> I was thinking recently that pfs really did try to make character progression more fun, didn't they? Look at all the classes that didn't really have anything at all interesting going on as they leveled before.
22:10:20 <Steven> mekkis no he does not have a dayjob
22:10:29 <rzv> sin eater
22:10:32 <Steven> and you can email it to me, it would probably be easier
22:10:57 <Mekkis> Steven, assuming your local DMs don't insist on a signature
22:11:09 <Steven> they wont bug me about it
22:11:11 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/03Steven.pdf
22:11:16 <Avatar> Hydrazine: what do you mean
22:11:18 <Steven> ive already informed them i play IRC with some friends
22:11:24 <Hydrazine> Bobby probably would. Better sign it in blood too.
22:11:31 <Hydrazine> With photo ID.
22:11:33 <Mekkis> when we meet at a con, I'll sign them for you :)
22:11:35 <Avatar> goddamn bobby
22:11:36 <Hydrazine> and a phone number.
22:12:05 <Hydrazine> And a promise to deliver unto Bobby your firstborn son..
22:12:23 <Mekkis> I installed a new version of matlab. Now I can run MATLABbot again!
22:12:31 <rzv> this bobby fellow sounds problematic
22:12:35 * Hydrazine has this Bobby guy all figured out.
22:12:44 <Hydrazine> oh, were you not here for my explaination?
22:12:56 <Hydrazine> Tales of Bobby is this regular program we got going on here.
22:13:12 <rzv> lol
22:13:13 <Steven> yeah... Tales of Bobby
22:13:18 <Steven> also known as
22:13:19 <Hydrazine> Where Steven regales us with tales of a chaotic evil with stupid tendancies GM.
22:13:33 <Steven> Hows rules dont work!!!!!
22:13:39 <Mekkis> rzv, who did you play? Worth?
22:13:48 <rzv> er i played Vade
22:14:02 <rzv> the spastic midget
22:14:11 <Hydrazine> What was the latest fiasco? a not-surprise round where characters miss rounds because they are not-surprised, and people get hit flatfooted?
22:14:45 <Mekkis> rzv, any dayjob?
22:14:47 <Steven> yeah, it was a good one
22:14:55 <Hydrazine> And wild tigets go straight for Steven's character and not the asshole who had them in a cage to begin with?
22:14:55 <rzv> what, you mean irl?
22:15:01 <Mekkis> well
22:15:03 <Mekkis> for your character
22:15:08 <rzv> oh
22:15:09 <Hydrazine> tigers. Because tigets makes no sense.
22:15:12 <rzv> dunno, should i have one?
22:15:20 <rzv> probably not, hes got 7 int
22:15:21 <Mekkis> (although I'm always interested in people's real-life employment
22:15:22 <Mekkis> ok
22:15:30 <rzv> im a programmer irl
22:15:42 <rzv> mit der c++
22:16:02 <Hydrazine> double plus good C.
22:16:21 <Steven> yeah it was fun, i wasnt even getting credit, but informed him as to how the rules work while playing for no credit
22:16:44 <Steven> that being any consumables or conditions gained carry through and must be resolved. aka its not just a 'free character'
22:16:50 <Hydrazine> Have you considered something irrational, like.. punching him in the jimmy?
22:17:07 <Steven> and im sure he was like, OH YAY! I AM GONNA KILL HIM CAUSE IT WILL BE FUN!
22:17:23 <Steven> so he forced a surprise round that wasnt a surprise round
22:17:36 <rzv> have you considered fisticuffs?
22:17:39 <Steven> so that he could get full attacks on me by two tigers.
22:18:03 <Hydrazine> Oh yeah. Full attacks because its not a surprise round. Thats right.
22:18:43 <Hydrazine> So I found a bottle of this mango smoothie thing in the fridge. Its rather delicious.
22:19:01 <Mekkis> rzv, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/03Rzv.pdf
22:19:15 <Steven> yeah, tigers get to go first even though they werent first in the initiative order, 5 foot step full attacks vs flat footed ac, but its not a surprise round even though 3 party members were ~40ft away not not aware of combat starting
22:19:54 <Mekkis> Who played Worth?
22:20:04 <Hydrazine> Sushi I think.
22:20:05 <Steven> wasnt that sushi?
22:20:15 <rzv> adobe reader is such a piece of shit
22:20:19 <rzv> katmouse works with everything
22:20:20 <Avatar> it sure is
22:20:21 <rzv> but adobe
22:20:29 <Steven> its why most of us here use foxit
22:20:33 <Avatar> what is katmouse
22:20:36 <rzv> yeah i use foxit as well
22:20:37 <Hydrazine> Bobby has also been seen fudging rolls from low to crits on blinded players, which I find in decidedly low class.
22:20:49 <rzv> its a mouse thing, allows you to scroll in windows etc in which you dont have focus
22:21:00 <Avatar> that's a dealbreaker man
22:21:00 <Mekkis> does Lyta have a dayjob?
22:21:06 <Hydrazine> No, Mekkis.
22:21:13 <Steven> he also likes to kill people who have been channeled back into positive health before they get to act at all
22:21:22 <Avatar> lyta should totally have a dayjob
22:21:26 <Avatar> what's your int at
22:21:52 <Hydrazine> Wait, craft works as a dayjob doesn't it?
22:21:56 <MincedSushi|Home> A quick question. DOes Mek normally run his game at that same time
22:21:59 <Avatar> yeah
22:22:00 <rzv> hydrazine i think you should consider homicide
22:22:06 <rzv> fisticuffs may not be enough
22:22:14 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/03Hydrazine.pdf
22:22:16 <Hydrazine> !dayjob 7
22:22:16 <diebot> Hydrazine, Roll: 27 50gp
22:22:19 <Hydrazine> there it is then.
22:22:19 <Mekkis> ooh
22:22:23 * Mekkis amends the sheet
22:22:32 <Hydrazine> hey, I even rolled good. ain't that some shit.
22:22:47 <Avatar> haha
22:22:54 <Hydrazine> I don't deal with Bobby. And I wouldn't, unless it was to for something nefarious.
22:23:11 <Avatar> two first level scrolls on your first day job roll ?
22:23:25 <Hydrazine> Hey Steven, I think I figured it out.
22:23:31 <rzv> alchemist seems like a pretty cool guy
22:23:45 <Steven> Paladin gets dropped by some summoned creatures, paladin stabilizes on his turn, cleric channels bring paladin to positive health, two creatures flank paladin and drop him to -20 or so, paladin dies.... steve calls bullshit but is ignored by bobby
22:23:57 <Hydrazine> Because fisticuffs and or murder have seriously affect your ability to patronize that establishment in the future.
22:24:02 <Hydrazine> http://crabrevenge.com/
22:24:54 <Steven> that just doesnt seem okay at all...
22:25:50 <rzv> The alchemist’s type does not change, but he becomes immune to cold, nonlethal damage, paralysis, and sleep.
22:25:53 <rzv> how is this even a thing
22:26:00 <Hydrazine> Does Bobby deserve 'okay', Steven, does he?
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22:26:28 <Steven> i wouldnt do that to someone...
22:26:34 <Steven> thats just fucked up....
22:27:43 <Hydrazine> Then I think I'm back to suggesting fisticuffs.
22:28:55 <Steven> nah, i just break scenarios that he runs
22:29:25 <Mekkis> rzv, are you hiring?
22:29:34 <rzv> huh
22:31:03 <rzv> !throw 3d6+10
22:31:05 <diebot> rzv, 3d6+10: [3d6=4,5,4] 23
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22:31:42 <rzv> !throw 4d6+10+15+5+3
22:31:42 <diebot> rzv, 4d6+10+15+5+3: [4d6=4,1,5,2] 45
22:31:43 <Mekkis> !roll 1d20+4 will save, +2 vs enchantment, +2 vs spells
22:31:44 <dicebot> Mekkis, will save, +2 vs enchantment, +2 vs spells: [1d20=15] 23
22:31:58 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4 will save, +2 vs enchantment, +2 vs spells
22:31:59 <diebot> Mekkis, will save, +2 vs enchantment, +2 vs spells: [1d20=1] 5
22:32:19 <Mekkis> Steven, there are other ways to achieve stealth....
22:33:08 <Mekkis> I have two methods: on I use when the DM is sensible, and one is for when the DM runs 100% rules-as-written
22:33:30 <Steven> i know mekkis, i have a rogue in a home brew that uses some cheese to stealth
22:33:49 <Mekkis> (the latter method involves "taking cover behind a mount" in order to achieve the "cover" requirement to use stealth)
22:35:17 <rzv> so out of curiosity if i were playing a ranged rogue
22:35:31 <rzv> would i just be shit when it came to gms saying nope to stealth
22:35:36 <Brunius> Yes
22:35:39 <Brunius> Usually
22:35:46 <Mekkis> rzv, pretty much, yeah
22:35:49 <Steven> yup
22:36:21 <rzv> so id probably end up twf in melee all day
22:36:23 <Steven> you have to get creative in your rules lawyering to be stealthed all the time
22:36:53 <Hydrazine> comparing to what? A ranger or fighter with the battery of ranged combat feats? Yeah, you'll look like a pansy.
22:37:12 <rzv> yeah i was thinking fighter/rogue or something would be better
22:37:35 <Mekkis> rzv, I STRONGLY recommend to stay away from the rogue class
22:37:50 <Mekkis> Steven, I also find it hard for a 6 inch tall character, with +41 to stealth, to be unable to hide without cover or concealment
22:38:11 <rzv> have you tried magic
22:38:26 <Mekkis> rzv, the Pathfinder mechanic, or the card game?
22:38:33 <Mekkis> (I've tried both)
22:38:43 <rzv> i mean disney magic
22:38:45 <rzv> wave hand
22:38:48 <rzv> shits done
22:39:04 <rzv> with a bit of luke use the force mixed in
22:39:19 <rzv> this is not the rogue youre looking for
22:40:09 <Mekkis> rzv, describe your 'rogue' without using any classes.
22:40:17 <Mekkis> what kind of character are you looking for?
22:40:43 <MincedSushi|Home> Kay~
22:40:44 <rzv> high burst, low sustained dps, tends to not be the focus
22:40:47 <rzv> perhaps not in melee
22:40:48 <MincedSushi|Home> Sounds good ^^
22:40:50 <Mekkis> NO!
22:40:59 <Mekkis> character
22:41:01 <Mekkis> not stats
22:41:22 <rzv> you mean in terms of personality or?
22:41:25 <Steven> my rogue has a party member that helps him always have concealment, which then allows me to restealth
22:41:35 <Mekkis> personality
22:41:43 <Mekkis> fighting style
22:41:49 <Steven> Lock gaze=rogues best friend
22:42:16 <Mekkis> skillset
22:42:51 <rzv> personality wise; willing to let teammates get beat up for that perfect strike, miserable loner guy
22:44:17 <Mekkis> going for the "dirty fighter" type?
22:44:25 <rzv> yeah pretty much
22:44:29 <Steven> i think im going to make another inquisitor
22:44:57 <Mekkis> rzv, would you use magic if it were available to you?
22:45:15 <rzv> whatever makes them fall down is good
22:50:46 <rzv> is this gunslinger niche or something
22:50:50 <rzv> setting wise
22:51:43 <Steven> gunslingers are like a ranger... only they damage things vs touch ac
22:51:53 <Steven> and have abilities that are stupid as shit
22:52:52 <Steven> they are however expensive to run, every shot they fire is like 8g
22:53:25 <Avatar> 1.1gp
22:53:29 <rzv> yeah basic bullet is 1g
22:53:50 <Avatar> at later levels you need alchemical catridges, and that becomes 3gp each
22:54:06 <Avatar> and the occasional silvered alchemical catridge or adamantine catridge etc adds up
22:54:23 <Avatar> it might cost 8gp if you waste a lot of high powered bullets when you don't need to
22:54:32 <Avatar> you trigger happy sonova bitch
22:55:50 <rzv> sniper rifles are where its at
22:56:07 <rzv> be nowhere near the fight
22:56:11 <Steven> no, i mean 1gp for the actual bullet, then you need gun powder
22:57:34 <rzv> are divine spell subject to armour checks in pathfinder?
22:57:40 <Mekkis> rzv, the problem is that it's very hard for a rogue to outdamage a fighter, even under ideal conditions
22:57:47 <Mekkis> no.
22:57:52 <Steven> no, divine spells can be worked without acp
22:57:55 <rzv> yeah i got that feeling from reading guides
22:58:15 <rzv> fighter is better than rogue at pretty much everything it seems
22:58:18 <Mekkis> I suppose rogue/synthesist could work...
22:58:32 <rzv> oracle seems pretty flavourful
22:58:54 <Steven> oracles are like a sorc version of a cleric
22:59:41 <rzv> would fill the CHA slot i suppose
23:01:20 <Avatar> Steven: gunpowder is the .1gp
23:01:47 <Steven> has it been errata'd?
23:01:53 <Avatar> no that's just how it is
23:04:32 <Steven> not according to my UC
23:04:53 <Mekkis> gunslingers in PFS get a good price
23:04:55 <Steven> its 10g for a 'dose'(shot) of blackpowder
23:05:12 <Mekkis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew4Y5HLyT6c&feature=player_embedded
23:05:17 <Mekkis> (unrelated)
23:05:20 <Avatar> maybe I've got it the wrong way around
23:05:25 <Avatar> bullet .1gp, black powder 1gp
23:06:21 <Steven> straight from the book
23:06:24 <Steven> Black powder (dose) 10 gp —
23:06:24 <Steven> Black powder (keg) 1,000 gp 5 lbs.
23:06:39 <Avatar> yeah
23:06:47 <Avatar> with gunsmithing, you pay 10%
23:06:49 <Steven> 1 dose to fire a bullet, 10doses to fire a cannon
23:07:11 <Avatar> bullet .1gp, black powder 1gp
23:07:42 <Steven> lol! kits been overpaying
23:07:55 <Steven> if anybody deserves to overpay its him lol
23:09:13 <Steven> im not even going to tell him about it either
23:09:25 <Mekkis> who?
23:09:38 <Steven> a guy down at the shop who has a gunslinger
23:09:42 <rzv> oracle seems pretty varied
23:10:21 <Steven> he occationally likes to 'fudge' his numbers into hit range
23:10:46 <rzv> why bother playing if youre going to ignore the dice roll
23:11:30 <Steven> some people are like that man
23:11:48 <rzv> worse, i think, if a gm does it
23:11:52 <rzv> that bobby fellow
23:12:28 <Steven> yeah, he just likes crafting unwinnible situations and then punish people for figuring out ways to unbreak them.
23:14:13 <Steven> i kinda wanna make a gunslinger/alchemist
23:14:17 <Steven> get the extra arms
23:14:27 <rzv> no extra attacks though
23:14:35 <Steven> and grab two weapon fighting
23:14:49 <Mekkis> Steven, the full-attack action, or the feat?
23:15:11 <Steven> feat i suppose
23:15:25 <Mekkis> then you run the risk of having an illegal character
23:15:30 <rzv> afk, gonna cook me some tasty curry
23:15:39 rzv is now known as rzv|afk
23:15:51 <Steven> i think ill make an alchemist next character i design
23:15:58 <Steven> making an alchemist right now
23:16:02 <Steven> errr
23:16:05 <Steven> inquisitor
23:17:32 <rzvlptp> looking at oracle
23:18:10 <Avatar> what kind of guns steven, and how many guns
23:19:52 <Steven> havent decided, ill figure it out when i start building him
23:20:16 <Steven> right now, i have two level 1s, two level 2s, a 4, 9, 13
23:20:23 <Steven> i dont need anymore low level chars
23:20:47 <Avatar> yeah I think I just like creating characters for the sake of it sometimes
23:20:58 <Steven> once i no longer have any level 1s ill make the gunslinger alchemist
23:21:04 <Avatar> should try and work out how to create an open-source herolabs
23:23:33 <Steven> hero lab is such a great program... that i avoid using even though i own it
23:23:56 <Avatar-> I didn't give spaceshot a lift to good games today so he skipped out on the game entirely
23:24:13 <Avatar-> without telling anyone
23:24:29 <rzv|afk> how useful is fire damage in pathfinder
23:24:35 <rzv|afk> because in 4e its pointless
23:24:53 <Steven> that completely depends on the scenario you are in
23:25:18 <Steven> against demons and devils its pretty worthless
23:25:20 <Brunius> Of course
23:25:27 <Steven> against humanoids, its usually pretty effective
23:25:29 <rzv|afk> so theres no trend of bbegs becoming immune to fire after like level 5
23:25:48 <Brunius> Did you still have enough people to play?
23:25:55 <rzv|afk> cool beans
23:29:57 <Steven> i always end up thinking if i start using hero labs to much, my character creation ability will go down.
23:30:37 <rzv|afk> is the free version any use?
23:30:52 <Steven> honestly i dont remember
23:31:35 <rzv|afk> because i pretty much need a way to check i havent derped
23:32:23 <Steven> but hero labs then, costs like 30 bucks
23:32:44 <Steven> HAHAHHAHAHA sam just woke up
23:32:50 <Steven> i shaved off my beard
23:33:09 <Steven> and she got up, walked in the living room and did a double take and ran into the wall
23:33:37 <Steven> ahhhhh the joys of freaking out the woman.
23:33:48 <Avatar-> yeah
23:33:59 <Avatar-> we had 5 with him
23:34:18 <Steven> i need to update my hero labs
23:34:25 <Avatar-> but he was the group's only healer
23:34:40 <Steven> i let the new guys down at the shop use it to check things out, cause i dont like checking over all their characters
23:34:42 <Avatar-> ava the life oracle
23:41:35 <rzv|afk> trying it out
23:42:03 <rzv|afk> i just need stuff pretty much right so i can stick it in the pdf
23:43:20 <Steven> if i remember correctly, the demo version of hero lab places like massive restrictions on character creation
23:43:28 <rzv|afk> oh :<
23:44:27 <rzv|afk> !throw 5d20
23:44:28 <diebot> rzv|afk, 5d20: [5d20=11,4,16,8,9] 48
23:44:39 <Steven> ?
23:44:49 <rzv|afk> d%
23:45:27 <Steven> if you are trying to roll percentage, you cannot roll 5d20s as your minimum roll is 5
23:45:31 <Mekkis> if you want d%, roll d100
23:45:35 <Mekkis> !throw 1d100
23:45:36 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d100: [1d100=71] 71
23:45:59 <Mekkis> anyway, what are you rolling d% for?
23:46:00 <rzv|afk> yeah isnt for anything important atm
23:46:04 <Steven> !throw 1d100
23:46:04 <diebot> Steven, 1d100: [1d100=88] 88
23:46:07 <Steven> i win!
23:46:17 <Steven> care to try your luck avatar?
23:46:34 <rzv|afk> was rolling 100 for a seed for a random value
23:46:43 <rzv|afk> well not d100 per se just
23:46:43 <Mekkis> yuck!
23:46:46 <rzv|afk> needed a number
23:47:08 <Mekkis> dirty secret, diebot uses /dev/urandom, not /dev/random
23:47:10 <rzv|afk> well i needed a random thats not really random
23:47:54 <rzv|afk> because in mel rand(30) will always return the same value
23:50:54 <Steven> 2 days and i will be playing diablo 3
23:51:02 <Steven> like a fuckin boss!
23:51:21 <rzv|afk> my game money fund is at £130
23:51:22 <rzv|afk> i should buy it
23:51:24 <rzv|afk> buuuut
23:51:31 <rzv|afk> dont think itll be too fun
23:51:40 * Steven slaps rzv
23:51:52 <Steven> didnt you play in the open beta weekend?
23:51:57 <rzv|afk> nope
23:52:00 <rzv|afk> eu was shitted up anyway
23:52:06 * Steven slaps rzv again
23:52:07 <rzv|afk> people that wantd to couldnt even get on the servers
23:52:26 <Steven> we are no longer friends.
23:55:37 <rzv|afk> how much is it anyway
23:55:58 <Steven> oh hey mekkis, i get to bug you and annoy you right now
23:56:17 <Mekkis> no
23:56:31 <rzv|afk> thats a pretty firm rebuttal
23:56:36 <Steven> going to anyways
23:56:46 <Mekkis> on what grounds?
23:57:13 <Steven> can i make a handle animal check to teach my animal a trick
23:57:21 <Mekkis> sure
23:57:30 <Mekkis> what trick?
23:57:34 <rzv|afk> >what trick
23:58:07 <Steven> im thinking....
23:58:18 <rzv|afk> >wield greataxe
23:59:27 <Steven> i guess stay
23:59:36 <Steven> !throw 1d20+2 Handle animal: Stay
23:59:37 <diebot> Steven, Handle animal: Stay: [1d20=13] 15
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