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00:20:03 <BoomerET> Ciao!
00:20:18 <BoomerET> I'll be back in a couple hours as soon as I get to work.
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00:21:15 <mortswishytail> Going to bed too
00:21:18 <mortswishytail> Night all
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02:27:42 * BoomerET looks around
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02:34:29 <BoomerET> Good morning/afternoon/evening Steven.
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02:49:49 <BoomerET> Howdy DarkDaemon
02:54:32 <DarkDaemon> hey
02:54:34 <DarkDaemon> gtg
03:03:22 <BoomerET> On the character template, under weapons, what does TAB stand for?
03:07:16 <Avatar> total attack bonus
03:07:28 <BoomerET> Thanks
03:07:49 <BoomerET> My latest char sheet is on my other notebook, so I'll try and work on that today.
03:08:01 <BoomerET> Got everything filled out up to that point.
03:08:16 <Avatar> cool, upload it
03:11:54 <BoomerET> I can't, it's on my other notebook.
03:12:13 <BoomerET> Let me boot the thing up and pray my boss doesn't look behind him.
03:12:25 <Avatar> I'm going to bed soon
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05:19:05 <BoomerET> Muahahaha
05:23:23 <Hydrazine> Damn coners.
05:24:17 <BoomerET> Yuuuuuuuup
05:26:04 <Hydrazine> Sup man?
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05:48:23 <BoomerET> Just bought another 4 pdf's from Paizo. Trying to finish out the Pathfinder collection
05:48:38 <BoomerET> I'm hoping I'm at least halfway.
05:48:43 <BoomerET> But doubtful
05:48:55 <BoomerET> I don't have any of the seasons of PFS
05:51:52 <BoomerET> How're you this fine day?
06:11:47 <BoomerET> That good huh?
06:53:23 <Ballig> it's too early
06:55:39 <Brunius> 6:55am
07:00:09 <BoomerET> Ballig, what environ did you use to create CA?
07:00:36 <Ballig> Qt
07:01:28 <BoomerET> Did you use the Nokia Qt Designer?
07:01:36 <BoomerET> (Is there anything else?)
07:01:49 <BoomerET> Did you write it in Python?
07:01:52 <Ballig> I think you can use other tools, but I used the Qt creator
07:01:55 <BoomerET> Is this too many questions?
07:01:59 <Ballig> I wrote the original CA in Python, but version 2 is a remake
07:02:29 <BoomerET> I used to be a developer, before I realized there was more money in networking.
07:03:21 <BoomerET> and where the hell do I get my Raspberry Pi? Jeesh
07:04:23 <BoomerET> Oh cool, $350 Buy It Now on eBay. Brand new they're $35, jeesh.
07:04:44 <Ballig> yeah but don't you want a BRAND NEW iphone (box) for $200?
07:04:49 <Ballig> I mean, it's a brand new IPHONE (box)
07:05:36 <BoomerET> Hmm, not an Apple fanboy. Android fanboy.
07:05:54 <Ballig> yeah but it's a brand new iphone (box)!
07:06:41 <BoomerET> A new box?????
07:06:57 <BoomerET> Damn, now that's a great deal.
07:07:14 <Ballig> for only $200!
07:07:17 <Ballig> and it's unlockeD!
07:07:45 <BoomerET> You doing the remake in Python?
07:07:53 <Ballig> no the remake was the Qt version
07:09:01 <BoomerET> I thought Qt was just a framework?
07:09:56 <Ballig> yeah, I didn't use Qt Python
07:09:59 <Ballig> I used Qt Visual C++
07:10:05 <BoomerET> Ahh, ok.
07:10:34 <BoomerET> Never really cared for C++, I grew up on C. OOP makes my brain go numb. Wrappers aren't my friend.
07:11:08 <BoomerET> I used to write firmware, and had to get down & dirty to eek out everything we possibly could.
07:12:04 <BoomerET> Boss & Marketing Team: Dave, We just promised client that we could add XX to the modem. How long before you can have it done?
07:12:27 <Ballig> ha
07:12:27 <BoomerET> Dave: 2 years when Conexant comes out with their new chipset.
07:13:24 <BoomerET> I used to write firmware for DSL modems (and further back, drivers for HP jukeboxes)
07:14:02 <BoomerET> Now I sit in a chair, and if I feel froggy, pump out a couple lines of Ruby each day.
07:14:21 <Ballig> did you not sit in a chair while you wrote firmware
07:14:55 <BoomerET> Yup, and had an office where the entire back wall was 1st floor windows looking at a parking lot.
07:15:16 <BoomerET> Now I sit in an open area, and see models and designers all day long.
07:15:47 <BoomerET> No more working in sausage factories for me!
07:16:11 <Ballig> yeah that chlorine smell would get to me
07:19:51 <BoomerET> Where do I find Total Attack Bonus for a weapon I'm carrying?
07:20:15 <BoomerET> s/Where/How/g
07:20:40 <Ballig> it'd be equal to your Base Attack Bonus + modifier (strength for melee, dexterity for ranged) and then any bonuses you might have with that specific weapon or weapon type
07:20:52 <Ballig> so if you have weapon focus in that kind of weapon, you'd add that. if it was a masterwork weapon, you'd add the masterwork bonus in there
07:20:53 <Ballig> etc
07:23:34 <BoomerET> Ok, so on the example template, I see +10/+5 for TAB. +10 is melee and +5 is ranged?
07:23:46 <BoomerET> (On the morningstar)
07:23:57 <Ballig> nah. that would be to show you how it works when you have iterative attacks
07:24:09 <Ballig> once your base attack bonus is at +6 or higher, you get another attack
07:24:13 <BoomerET> Ahhhh, ok.
07:24:21 <Ballig> so a base attack bonus of +6 is written as +6/+1 because the second attack is always 5 less
07:24:41 <BoomerET> Even when I played 2e, I never really knew the rules, jeesh. Don't know what makes me think I can now.
07:25:08 <BoomerET> Excellent, great explanation, thanks.
07:41:54 <Hydrazine> ha.
07:42:19 <Hydrazine> We're pretty good on the rules. Mostly. Feel free to ask if you get anything else.
07:42:32 <Hydrazine> Yeah. 10/5 TAB means you can swing twice in a full attack.
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08:31:04 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 4am (MincedSushi, new game) / Sat 1pm (Avatar, new game) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site!! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
08:31:04 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue May 15 16:38:46 2012
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09:03:53 <Mort-> Morning
09:04:27 <BoomerET> Afternoon!
09:04:41 <Hydrazine> Evening
09:05:45 <Mort-> Funny jokerp
09:06:01 <Mort-> I've been having dreams every night
09:07:22 <Mort-> Weird ones like my brothers fish eating up all his water plants
09:12:14 <BoomerET> Are they Plecostmus'?
09:13:42 <Mort-> They are greedysaurus ^^
09:14:38 <BoomerET> Hahaha
09:16:44 <ZorkBot> >You are carrying:
09:16:46 <ZorkBot> A leather bag of coins
09:16:48 <ZorkBot> A screwdriver
09:16:50 <ZorkBot> A nasty knife
09:16:52 <ZorkBot> A rope
09:16:54 <ZorkBot> A glass bottle
09:16:56 <ZorkBot> The glass bottle contains:
09:16:58 <ZorkBot> A quantity of water
09:17:00 <ZorkBot> A brass lantern (providing light)
09:17:02 <ZorkBot> A brown sack
09:17:13 <Mekkis> #put treasures in case
09:17:14 <ZorkBot> >You can't see any case here!
09:17:17 <Mekkis> #look
09:17:18 <ZorkBot> >Treasure Room
09:17:20 <ZorkBot> This is a large room, whose east wall is solid granite. A number of discarded bags, which crumble at your touch, are scattered about on the floor. There is an exit down a staircase.
09:17:22 <ZorkBot> There is a stiletto here.
09:17:24 <ZorkBot> There is a silver chalice, intricately engraved, here.
09:17:36 <Mekkis> #drop sack
09:17:37 <ZorkBot> >Dropped.
09:17:37 <Mort-> I'm a cookie saurus
09:17:40 <Mekkis> #take chalice
09:17:41 <ZorkBot> >Taken.
09:17:57 <Mekkis> #down
09:17:58 <ZorkBot> >Cyclops Room
09:18:01 <Mekkis> #look
09:18:02 <ZorkBot> >Cyclops Room
09:18:04 <ZorkBot> This room has an exit on the northwest, and a staircase leading up.
09:18:06 <ZorkBot> The east wall, previously solid, now has a cyclops-sized opening in it.
09:18:11 <Mekkis> #east
09:18:12 <ZorkBot> >Strange Passage
09:18:14 <ZorkBot> This is a long passage. To the west is one entrance. On the east there is an old wooden door, with a large opening in it (about cyclops sized).
09:18:19 <Mekkis> #east
09:18:20 <ZorkBot> >Living Room
09:18:26 <Mekkis> #put treasures in case
09:18:27 <ZorkBot> >Which treasures do you mean, the chalice or the leather bag of coins?
09:18:32 <Mekkis> #both
09:18:33 <ZorkBot> >I don't know the word "both".
09:18:38 <Mekkis> #chalice
09:18:39 <ZorkBot> >There was no verb in that sentence!
09:18:45 <Mekkis> #put chalice in case
09:18:46 <ZorkBot> >Done.
09:19:06 <Mekkis> you can take it from here, mort
09:19:13 <Mort-> Lol
09:19:19 <Mort-> Going to bed :p
09:19:27 <Mort-> I'm confused
09:19:35 <Mort-> #turn off light
09:19:36 <ZorkBot> >The brass lantern is now off.
09:19:56 <Mekkis> #save 1
09:19:57 <ZorkBot> >That sentence isn't one I recognize.
09:20:01 <Mekkis> #save game
09:20:02 <ZorkBot> >[game -> gate]
09:20:04 <ZorkBot> That sentence isn't one I recognize.
09:20:09 <Mort-> Why didn't you try to kill the cyclops btw
09:20:25 <Mort-> Of course you left the sword in the maze
09:20:53 <Mort-> !exit
09:20:54 <ZorkBot> >[!exit -> exit]
09:20:56 <ZorkBot> You can't go that way.
09:21:06 <Mort-> How do you end session
09:21:16 <Mort-> End
09:21:22 <Mort-> !end
09:21:23 <ZorkBot> >[!end -> send]
09:21:25 <ZorkBot> What do you want to !end for?
09:21:39 <Mekkis> !save
09:21:48 <Mekkis> !save 1
09:21:49 <ZorkBot> >[!save -> save]
09:21:51 <ZorkBot> Enter saved game to store:
09:21:53 <ZorkBot> Ok.
09:21:58 <Mekkis> !quit
09:21:59 <ZorkBot> >[!quit -> quit]
09:22:01 <ZorkBot> Your score is 90 (total of 350 points), in 332 moves.
09:22:03 <ZorkBot> This gives you the rank of Novice Adventurer.
09:22:07 <Mort-> Oh lol
09:22:14 <Mort-> I think mostly by you
09:22:40 <Mort-> I couldn't even get into the dungeon
09:22:43 <Mekkis> #y
09:22:44 <ZorkBot> Do you wish to leave the game? (Y is affirmative):
09:22:46 <ZorkBot> The interpreter has ended the session.
09:22:48 <Mort-> At least i knew what T9 on
09:22:50 <Mort-> To do
09:23:00 <Mekkis> heh
09:23:01 <Mort-> When i saw a troll
09:23:21 <Mort-> But that was about it
09:23:30 <Mort-> My lamp is probably going to run out soon
09:23:32 <Mekkis> did you get the egg?
09:23:37 <Mort-> No
09:23:45 <Mort-> I have a horrible sense of direction
09:24:01 <Mort-> Not to mention claustrophobia :d
09:24:21 <Mekkis> I draw a mak
09:24:23 <Mekkis> map*
09:24:35 <Mekkis> hmmm
09:24:38 <Mort-> I am on cell with no paper :d
09:24:47 <Mort-> Royal fk up
09:24:51 <Mekkis> if you don't have the egg, chances are you won't be able to finish it
09:24:52 <Mort-> Hi mekkis
09:24:54 <Mort-> !
09:25:07 <Mort-> Yeah i probably fked up big time
09:25:19 <Mort-> By leaving my lantern on too long
09:25:25 <Mort-> Hey its my first try :p
09:26:18 <Mort-> Oh man that's tiring
09:26:43 <Mort-> Well I'm not perfect ^^
09:26:45 <Mort-> Oh shit.
09:26:52 <Mort-> I need to give a speech on Monday
09:27:04 <Mort-> Skewwed
09:27:42 <Mort-> My brother is far better then i am when it comes to mapless navigation
09:28:00 <Mort-> He is like oh the pro :p
09:28:19 <Mekkis> try wumpus
09:28:27 <Mort-> For me i couldn't remember how to get to a place till after the 3rd try or so
09:28:30 <Mekkis> if you don't see a prompt, just type #
09:28:34 <Mekkis> #
09:28:40 <Mort-> I think i drained too may brain cells
09:28:43 <Mort-> Many
09:28:53 <Mort-> Even pfs isn't that tiring :d
09:29:19 <Mort-> Its like the old space quest series
09:29:38 <Mort-> Which both my bro and i couldn't complete without a guide
09:31:13 <Mort-> And yes. He has more brains then i do
09:31:24 <Mort-> My brother does :p
09:31:32 <Mort-> But I'm midly sneakier
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09:34:20 <BoomerET> Hello DarkDaemon
09:34:27 <DarkDaemon> hey
09:37:40 <BoomerET> On my character sheet that I generated, it doesn't list the knowledge (xxx) skills, why is this?
09:38:20 <BoomerET> Are skills such that anybody can try something, it's just that it's likely to fail?
09:39:32 <BoomerET> Or does PFS treat Knowledge skills differently (like it also has no item creation?)
09:40:23 <Hydrazine> No, PFS still has knowledge skills. I am unsure why whatever your using is giving you issues.
09:40:27 <Mort-> Oh mekkis.
09:40:42 <Mort-> My brother is currently playing diablo 3
09:40:42 <BoomerET> Hero Lab of course
09:40:45 <Mort-> As a monk
09:41:05 <BoomerET> I mean, I have a +1 to Int, so I would think they would all be at least +1 right?
09:41:24 <Hydrazine> Hmm. What are you making?
09:41:29 <BoomerET> Cleric
09:41:45 <Hydrazine> Should definately have some knowledges on there then.
09:42:01 <Hydrazine> Pretty sure Clerics get atleast religion and history as class skills.
09:42:49 <BoomerET> There's 4 or 5 knowledge skills that they get according to the core rules.
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09:46:05 <Hydrazine> not familiar with using HL. Can you add them in yourself, fix it?
09:47:27 <BoomerET> Oh, of course.
09:47:39 <BoomerET> They appear in HL, but not on the generated PDF.
09:47:56 <BoomerET> Wait, let me double-check that.
09:48:01 <Hydrazine> could be because you aren't putting ranks in?
09:48:24 <BoomerET> So if you don't put any ranks in, you can't use a skill?
09:49:18 <Hydrazine> can't use knowledge skills untrailed unless the dc is 10 or less.
09:50:01 <Hydrazine> Depends on the skill. For example, acrobatics, appraise and bluff you can use just fine untrained. treat it as 0 ranks.
09:51:00 <Hydrazine> disable device, handle animal, use magic device.. things like that can't be used untrained.
09:51:48 <BoomerET> What's the difference between PFS module, and Sanctioned module?
09:52:30 <Hydrazine> Hm. I could not tell you with accuracy, sorry. Don't believe I've ever done a sanctioned module.
09:52:33 <BoomerET> Ok, that skill hit explains why it's not on my sheet.
09:53:51 <Mort-> I think sanctioned mods have less lewt
09:53:58 <Hydrazine> chances are, the dc on a knowledge check isn't 10 or lower.
09:54:48 <Hydrazine> But yeah, I think it makes sense, the trained/untrained thing. Noone has to teach you how to lie for you to give it a (possibly bad) shot. Disabling bombs? Would you do it without training?
09:56:02 <BoomerET> Only with a very long stick.
09:58:10 * Mort- wouldnt. I'm a scared mur you know
09:59:22 <Hydrazine> I'd atleast take a look. Mostly because I'm confident in my electronics skills. But I would consider that training, for the comparison to disable device.
10:01:54 <BoomerET> Were you an ET too?
10:01:57 <BoomerET> or EM?
10:01:59 <Hydrazine> ET.
10:03:32 <BoomerET> My char so far: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=422
10:03:38 <Mort-> yup going to call a friend.. thank you for the awesome idea. All though I'm not 100% if PFS will allow me mounting another pc.
10:03:48 <BoomerET> wtf?
10:04:19 <BoomerET> Oh, I was looking at #421, thought I had really messed up.
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10:05:06 <Mort-> Why?
10:05:21 <BoomerET> Why what?
10:05:27 <Mort-> Boomeret
10:05:36 <BoomerET> Why BoomerET?
10:05:42 <BoomerET> I was an ET on a Boomer
10:05:44 <Hydrazine> because hes an ET from a boomer.
10:05:45 <Hydrazine> Duh.
10:05:49 <Mort-> Do you have enough money for scalemail
10:05:56 <Mort-> I wish to highlight your name
10:06:06 <Mort-> That's why i said it as your name was spelt
10:06:43 <Mort-> You probably don't need combat casting
10:06:56 <Mort-> Humans start with 1 bonus feat.
10:06:57 <Hydrazine> Yeah, but then you waited until after we're all confused to talk about what you want his attention for
10:06:58 <BoomerET> Thanks, I'm making those changes!
10:07:20 <Mort-> Generally the only people who will take combat casting are magi
10:07:36 <Hydrazine> Eh. He can.
10:07:42 <Mort-> Ok boomer
10:07:53 <Mort-> He can channel if he needs to heal
10:08:23 <Hydrazine> Skills are off.
10:08:27 <Mort-> There is even a school of thought saying magi don't need combat casting and you take it because you are a nub and can't position yourself well
10:08:33 <Hydrazine> Clerics get 2 base. +1 int. +1 human.
10:09:40 <Mort-> And if you went to buy studded leather and all your fancy gear please deduct your gp off
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10:11:06 <BoomerET> I lost the studded leather and added scale mail.
10:11:08 <Hydrazine> Should stick your channeling dice and amount on the sheet somewhere. Willing for a recommendation for your extra feat?
10:11:19 <BoomerET> Of course!
10:11:28 <BoomerET> I was looking at Dodge
10:11:36 <mortswishytail> Selective channeling
10:11:40 <Hydrazine> selective channeling. oh, shit. no cha.
10:11:43 * mortswishytail jumps up and down
10:11:44 <mortswishytail> Lol
10:11:54 * mortswishytail giggles
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10:12:05 <Mort-> Back
10:12:20 <BoomerET> Hmm, which book is Selective channeling in? It's not in my list.
10:12:29 <BoomerET> I may need to add the sourcebook.
10:12:44 <Hydrazine> Seems like most of the desire for channeling happens in combat.
10:12:55 <Hydrazine> And then you got the issue that everyone within 30 feet gets it.
10:13:02 <Mort-> Where did the +1 misc reflex bonus come from
10:13:25 <Hydrazine> selective channeling is core I think..
10:13:35 <Mort-> And its nice to bring a crossbow.
10:13:45 <Hydrazine> Hes got one .
10:13:54 <Mort-> However what were you intending to shoot out of it? :p
10:13:55 <Mort-> Air? ;)
10:14:06 <BoomerET> I'm not that far yet.
10:14:09 <Mort-> He has one. Where is his ammunition?
10:14:19 * Mort- giggles more
10:14:54 <BoomerET> Maybe Selective Channeling is called something else?
10:14:59 <Mort-> Luv clerics
10:15:09 <Hydrazine> What are you looking in?
10:15:20 <Mort-> Nuff said
10:15:20 <Mort-> Hydra is the one with the books!
10:15:21 <Mort-> Not me!
10:16:13 * BoomerET goes to search his pdf's
10:16:47 <Mort-> D20 doesn't say where selective channeling comes from
10:16:52 <Hydrazine> Core page 132.
10:16:54 <Hydrazine> Bottom right.
10:17:12 * Mort- claps
10:17:27 <Mort-> Unfortunately i think he just went to be a book worn
10:17:30 <Mort-> Worm
10:17:38 <Mort-> Boomer come back!
10:17:42 <BoomerET> I'm doing a global search.
10:17:49 <Hydrazine> But I just found it.
10:17:54 <Mort-> Do as hydra tells you :d
10:18:00 <Mort-> He is always right!
10:18:06 <Hydrazine> But hes older than me!
10:18:14 * Mort- tries flattery in hope of getting an extra cookie
10:18:22 <Mort-> Hey. Got cookie?
10:18:26 <BoomerET> That's why, my cha is too low :(
10:19:08 <Hydrazine> The functionality of channeling in combat really shifts based on whether or not you're healing the baddies too.
10:19:30 <Mort-> You haven't started game yet!
10:19:30 <Mort-> Its not too late:-)
10:19:31 <Mort-> And also yeah it comes to the debate. Does a magus need combat casting. Or am i a nub who can't position well.
10:19:31 * Mort- ponders
10:20:02 <BoomerET> Drop wis by 1 or 2? to increase cha?
10:20:07 <BoomerET> Ciao!
10:20:22 <BoomerET> I'll be back in a couple hours as soon as I get to work.
10:20:23 <BoomerET> or dex/con/str?
10:20:35 <Mort-> You can
10:21:10 <BoomerET> 13/13/13/13/16/13, jeesh
10:21:18 <mortswishytail> Going to bed too
10:21:21 <mortswishytail> Night all
10:22:05 <Mort-> Or drop some oddstats
10:22:06 <Mort-> Like your dex /int
10:22:06 <Mort-> Clerics don't have to be smart
10:22:06 <Mort-> I said drop 13 to 12
10:22:06 <Mort-> For int and dex
10:22:06 <Mort-> Try to keep your stats at even numbers
10:22:44 <BoomerET> 14/12/14/12/16/13?
10:23:17 <BoomerET> 14/12/13/12/16/13
10:23:56 <BoomerET> Gotta wrap it up and head home. Be back in a couple hours.
10:24:00 <Mort-> Will do
10:24:02 <Mort-> Np
10:24:07 <Mort-> Back to books
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12:27:45 * BoomerET looks around
12:34:32 <BoomerET> Good morning/afternoon/evening Steven.
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12:49:52 <BoomerET> Howdy DarkDaemon
12:54:36 <DarkDaemon> hey
12:54:37 <DarkDaemon> gtg
13:03:26 <BoomerET> On the character template, under weapons, what does TAB stand for?
13:07:19 <Avatar> total attack bonus
13:07:31 <BoomerET> Thanks
13:07:52 <BoomerET> My latest char sheet is on my other notebook, so I'll try and work on that today.
13:08:04 <BoomerET> Got everything filled out up to that point.
13:08:19 <Avatar> cool, upload it
13:11:58 <BoomerET> I can't, it's on my other notebook.
13:12:16 <BoomerET> Let me boot the thing up and pray my boss doesn't look behind him.
13:12:28 <Avatar> I'm going to bed soon
13:29:49 <MekkisScreen> BoomerET: I like 12/12/12/12/14/15
13:30:29 <BoomerET> It's now: 14/12/13/12/16/13
13:31:02 <BoomerET> Would the one you posted be a sorcerer, or what?
13:32:56 <Mort-> He is a summoner
13:33:17 <Mort-> I have 13 12 14 14 10 16
13:33:27 <Mort-> On stats before :p
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13:41:22 <Avatar> pretty sure you've never used 12/12/12/12/14/15 mekkis
13:43:01 <Avatar> BoomerET: selective channelling is a core rulebook feat
13:43:10 <Avatar> and it's pretty much a must-have feat for any cleric
13:43:40 <Avatar> you want a cha of at least 14 so that it can be useful
13:44:18 <Avatar> your channel positive energy has a 30ft radius to heal people, and selective channelling lets you choose which bad guys don't get to be part of that healing
13:44:26 <Avatar> you can choose a number of bad guys based on your cha mod
13:46:22 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: Itzamna used it!
13:46:25 <Mort-> Yes
13:46:29 <MekkisScreen> uses it even
13:46:31 <Mort-> I'm not surprised
13:46:44 <Avatar> itzamna's a summoner who uses his eidolon for everything
13:46:51 <MekkisScreen> ummm no
13:47:00 <MekkisScreen> he's played scenarios without using the eidolon at all
13:47:12 <Avatar> ones where the stats don't matter
13:47:17 <MekkisScreen> half of wonders in the weave 1 was done without the eidolon
13:47:31 <Avatar> the non-combat parts
13:47:45 <Avatar> in a 6 person party
14:14:31 <BoomerET> Yup, I took Selective Channeling.
14:15:03 <BoomerET> Couldn't find it because my cha wasn't 13, so have redone a lot of things, still fleshing it out. Had to add some crossbow bolts.
14:16:00 <BoomerET> 14 for cha? I have 13
14:19:43 <Mort-> Lol
14:20:40 <Mort-> Anyway don't listen to this channel if they say i should be smacked on my nose
14:20:58 <Mort-> And always bring cookies for me!
14:21:32 <Hydrazine> Yeah. Mort likes cookies. Especially with radium.
14:21:46 <Mort-> Your mean :(
14:22:22 <BoomerET> There's be less terrorists in this world if there were more cookies.
14:23:07 * Mort- nods her head and agrees
14:23:20 <BoomerET> and ice cream
14:23:28 <Mort-> Cookies and cream.
14:23:40 <Mort-> Or mint with chocolate chip
14:24:10 <Mort-> I may be Asian but i don't live on green tea ice cream.
14:24:29 <Mort-> Or oolong tea.
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14:28:05 <N2H4> I think I prefer Rodney Carrington's answer to terrorism.
14:28:38 <Avatar> you should avoid odd numbered stats since they don't really help your mods, except for con
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14:30:31 <BoomerET> Well, with 20 points, it seems impossible to not have 1 odd stat.
14:30:44 <Avatar> certainly not impossible
14:30:59 <BoomerET> I'm playing with the numbers, and I keep going over by 1
14:31:00 <Avatar> you can do it easily by just having 4 stats at 14 and 2 at 10
14:31:11 <BoomerET> Ahhh
14:31:32 <Avatar> I usually do that and then do some fine tuning based on what I want more or less of
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15:19:08 <BoomerET> Muahahaha
15:23:27 <Hydrazine> Damn coners.
15:24:20 <BoomerET> Yuuuuuuuup
15:26:08 <Hydrazine> Sup man?
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15:48:22 <Nocte|Kazour> Ah... Found it again.
15:48:26 <BoomerET> Just bought another 4 pdf's from Paizo. Trying to finish out the Pathfinder collection
15:48:41 <BoomerET> I'm hoping I'm at least halfway.
15:48:46 <BoomerET> But doubtful
15:48:58 <BoomerET> I don't have any of the seasons of PFS
15:51:55 <BoomerET> How're you this fine day?
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15:56:45 <Mort-> Just dnd ballig
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16:04:00 <Nocte|Kazour> Hmm... What should I do?
16:05:10 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
16:05:51 <Nocte|Kazour> Hmm... Could do that.
16:06:06 <Nocte|Kazour> I'm going to roll which character I'm going to do.
16:06:24 <Nocte|Kazour> A bard or a Dragon Bloodline Sorcerer.
16:06:36 <Nocte|Kazour> And it was !throw, right?
16:06:48 <Nocte|Kazour> !throw 1d6
16:06:48 <diebot> Nocte|Kazour, 1d6: [1d6=1] 1
16:06:56 <Nocte|Kazour> A bard it is.
16:07:16 <Nocte|Kazour> To Powergame or not to Powergame?
16:07:47 <N2H4> Howdy Nocte.
16:08:01 <Nocte|Kazour> Hmm...
16:08:26 <Nocte|Kazour> Too bad that the scores are not rolled randomly.
16:08:44 <N2H4> Random scores can be pretty good and bad.
16:09:00 <Nocte|Kazour> But I usually have pretty good luck.
16:09:09 <Nocte|Kazour> Ok what race?
16:09:10 <Avatar> I can appreciate rolling
16:09:34 <N2H4> I used to do alot of rolled stats.
16:09:57 <N2H4> What method of rolling?
16:10:33 <Nocte|Kazour> 4d6.
16:10:34 <Nocte|Kazour> Drop the lowest.
16:10:45 <Avatar> I used to allow either a point buy or rolling 4d6 drop lowest up to two times, take latest rolls
16:10:57 <Nocte|Kazour> Sometimes it would be fun to try out straight 3d6.
16:11:02 <Nocte|Kazour> Would make for a classic game.
16:11:08 <Nocte|Kazour> Ok...
16:11:14 <Nocte|Kazour> I'm going to roll for a random race.
16:11:20 <Avatar> you can uh
16:11:26 <Avatar> !rnd human half-elf gnome
16:11:30 <Avatar> !rng human half-elf gnome
16:11:30 <diebot> Avatar, gnome
16:11:34 <Avatar> etc
16:11:36 <Nocte|Kazour> I'm excluding Half-Orcs.
16:11:39 <N2H4> I've done alot of 4d6 drop low type stuff, and I'll tell you that the average power of PCs ends up alot higher than PFS point buy.
16:11:50 <BoomerET> That good huh?
16:12:30 <Avatar> is there usually more than one set of rolls allowed
16:13:12 <Nocte|Kazour> !rng Human Elf Gnome Halfling Dwarf Half-Elf
16:13:13 <diebot> Nocte|Kazour, Gnome
16:13:19 <Nocte|Kazour> Nope.
16:13:22 <Nocte|Kazour> !rng Human Elf Gnome Halfling Dwarf Half-Elf
16:13:23 <diebot> Nocte|Kazour, Dwarf
16:13:27 <Nocte|Kazour> Ok.
16:13:28 <Nocte|Kazour> Dwarf Bard.
16:13:33 <Nocte|Kazour> This would be fun.
16:13:58 <Nocte|Kazour> Try to imagine that.
16:14:17 <N2H4> Not what I'm used to, Avatar.
16:14:27 <N2H4> 4d6 drop lowest. 6 times.
16:14:48 <Nocte|Kazour> I do that usually.
16:14:54 <Nocte|Kazour> I dislike Point Buy.
16:14:55 <Avatar> even the fact that it's drop lowest will mean the odds are in your favour
16:15:07 <Nocte|Kazour> Because I really can't plan my character well.
16:15:43 <Nocte|Kazour> BTW. Is there a blank character sheet?
16:15:50 <N2H4> You end up with much stronger characters than your used to in PFS, Avatar.
16:16:17 <N2H4> But I don't think it really means alot overall. Adjust the content to fit.
16:19:39 <Nocte|Kazour> Hmm... Too bad its hard to find a GM who would do a solo game of Pathfinder.
16:20:27 <Nocte|Kazour> And isn't how strong your character determined how well you roleplay?
16:20:35 <Nocte|Kazour> by*
16:22:16 <Nocte|Kazour> Wait.
16:22:23 <Nocte|Kazour> A bot is a half-op?
16:22:35 <Nocte|Kazour> O.o
16:24:32 <Avatar> yeah go to the downloads section
16:25:14 <Avatar> pick 4 stats to put at 14 and keep the other two at 10
16:25:21 <Avatar> if you can't decide
16:27:24 <Nocte|Kazour> So these inventory stuff comes free or something?
16:27:38 <Avatar> only your outfit is free
16:27:45 <Avatar> the rest you have to pay for if you want it
16:27:58 <Avatar> it's there because just about everyone would want it
16:28:03 <Avatar> but you're not obliged
16:28:13 <Nocte|Kazour> Why are there no rations?
16:28:26 <Avatar> some people prefer taverns
16:28:30 <Avatar> I don't know, add them
16:28:38 <Mort-> Go buy your own
16:28:48 <Nocte|Kazour> Well... If you need to travel for like... four days, you need food.
16:28:57 <Avatar> survival lets you find food
16:29:12 <Nocte|Kazour> Meh. I prefer rations.
16:30:46 <Nocte|Kazour> Lol, there's cane sword?
16:31:29 <Nocte|Kazour> Just looking at stuff what new Advanced has.
16:31:45 <Mort-> If i take a trip out of town my characters will bring food
16:31:49 <Nocte|Kazour> And, uh.
16:31:57 <Nocte|Kazour> What's my starting gold?
16:31:59 <Mort-> Otherwise no
16:33:08 <Mort-> 150 gp
16:34:19 <Nocte|Kazour> So, I get to select which kind of dagger I want or is it piercing and slashing?
16:36:12 <Avatar> it's both
16:36:22 <Avatar> do you have the guide to organised play
16:36:28 <Nocte|Kazour> Yeh.
16:37:28 <Nocte|Kazour> What was the name of the book again?
16:37:39 <Nocte|Kazour> pdf*
16:40:33 <Avatar> go here:
16:40:36 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/newbie_guide.htm
16:40:39 <Avatar> and get everything on that page
16:40:54 <Avatar> the pathfinder society guide to organised play is the one you need
16:41:15 <Nocte|Kazour> Gotta download the guide again for some reason.
16:41:16 <Nocte|Kazour> >.>
16:42:43 <Mort-> You can choose to stab or slash with your dagger i think
16:42:48 <Mort-> On point of attack
16:43:02 <Nocte|Kazour> Ok.
16:43:07 <Mort-> If the weapon descriptior for damage is p or s
16:43:25 <Mort-> If its p only means you can only deal piercing damage with it
16:43:55 <Nocte|Kazour> TAB is what?
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16:44:45 <Mekk> !throw 4d5
16:44:45 <diebot> Mekk, 4d5: [4d5=2,5,3,5] 15
16:45:05 <Nocte|Kazour> Why 5? o.o
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16:45:11 <Mort-> Total attack bonus
16:45:28 <Nocte|Kazour> Total Attack Bonus for a dagger is?
16:46:35 <Nocte|Kazour> Oh right.
16:46:37 <Nocte|Kazour> Its that!
16:46:40 * Nocte|Kazour facepalms.
16:48:37 <Mort-> Strength bonus or dex bonus. With your own bab. And whatever feat you may have.
16:49:15 <Mort-> It changes as per situation like if you have flanking buddy
16:49:20 <Nocte|Kazour> Ok.
16:49:32 <Mort-> Hitting from higher ground. Morale bonus. Hitting from invisibility
16:50:05 <Mort-> But generally you apply strength bonus and base attack bonus
16:50:23 <Nocte|Kazour> So what places should I spent my points on?
16:50:30 <Mort-> Dex bonus only if you have weapon finesse
16:50:49 <Mort-> depending on what kind of bard you want to be
16:50:55 <Mort-> Please read up on your class
16:51:20 <Mort-> I have never rolled up a bard so i have no clue on how you would want to play one
16:51:50 <Nocte|Kazour> I kind of want to play a bard who plays tricks on his enemies and that sort of stuff.
16:52:36 <Mort-> High cha
16:52:48 <Mort-> For spells
16:53:00 <Mort-> You can also play tripping tricks or disarm tricks
16:53:27 <Ballig> it's too early
16:53:30 <Mort-> Probably would suggest high dex and agile maneuvers for that
16:53:45 <Nocte|Kazour> So 14 dex
16:53:46 <Mort-> Then play dirty tricks while wearing black leather using a whip :p
16:53:50 <Nocte|Kazour> 14 cha.
16:53:55 <Nocte|Kazour> And what other two?
16:54:07 <Mort-> 16 cha i recommend
16:54:12 <Nocte|Kazour> Ok.
16:54:28 <Mort-> Oh and worship callistra ^^
16:54:44 <Nocte|Kazour> Callistra?
16:54:45 <Mort-> Female. Black leather. And whip. Nice picture ^^
16:54:53 <Mort-> Oh yes ^^
16:55:06 <Nocte|Kazour> Dude, I'm playing a dwarf bard.
16:55:13 <Nocte|Kazour> >.>
16:55:26 <Mort-> Damn
16:55:34 <Mort-> Human would be cuter ^^
16:55:43 <Brunius> 6:55am
16:55:46 <Nocte|Kazour> Dwarf because it would be fun.
16:55:53 <Nocte|Kazour> Nobody would expect a dwarf to be a bard.
16:56:19 <Mort-> If i were doing dwarf bard id focus less on dirty tricks
16:56:32 <Nocte|Kazour> Well... What should I do then?
16:56:42 <Mort-> And just dwarven waraxe everyone out of the way :p
16:56:43 * Nocte|Kazour inspires courage.
16:56:52 <Mort-> But hey I'm kind of a brute.
16:56:55 <Nocte|Kazour> Bards can't wield martial weapons.
16:56:58 <Mort-> Don't mind me
16:57:16 <Mort-> If you are dwarf i think its a racial profecgency
16:57:24 <Mort-> Don't quote me on this though
16:57:29 <N2H4> I believe so.
16:57:32 <Mort-> Haven't rolled a dwarf yet
16:57:39 <Mort-> I hate smallies.
16:57:46 <Nocte|Kazour> He's not small.
16:57:50 <Nocte|Kazour> He's Medium.
16:57:56 <Mort-> Shorties.
16:58:02 <Nocte|Kazour> Unlike Halflings.
16:58:04 <N2H4> yeah, dwarves are medium Mort.
16:58:06 <Nocte|Kazour> Midgets.
16:58:11 <Mort-> Whatever. I can't stand 20 move speed
16:58:28 <N2H4> Works fine for me.
16:58:43 <Nocte|Kazour> I need to torture someone to make them run a solo game for me... >.>
16:58:57 <Mort-> I don't think you can
16:59:13 <Mort-> I tried playing zork last night
16:59:23 <Mort-> All i got was a headache
16:59:25 <Mort-> :(
16:59:34 <Mort-> Not many brains here :(
16:59:42 * Nocte|Kazour waits for a target.
16:59:47 <Avatar> you don't choose which with a stabbing and piercing weapon
16:59:52 <Avatar> your weapon automatically does both
16:59:53 <Nocte|Kazour> Did you stab yourself Mort?
17:00:07 <Nocte|Kazour> That's the only way out of the game.
17:00:13 <BoomerET> Ballig, what environ did you use to create CA?
17:00:39 <Ballig> Qt
17:01:21 <Mort-> The desbription
17:01:25 <Mort-> says p or s
17:01:31 <BoomerET> Did you use the Nokia Qt Designer?
17:01:39 <BoomerET> (Is there anything else?)
17:01:41 <Mort-> As opposed to morningstar - b and 7
17:01:48 <Mort-> B and p
17:01:53 <BoomerET> Did you write it in Python?
17:01:55 <Ballig> I think you can use other tools, but I used the Qt creator
17:01:58 <BoomerET> Is this too many questions?
17:02:00 <Mort-> I believe there should be a distinctions
17:02:03 <Ballig> I wrote the original CA in Python, but version 2 is a remake
17:02:31 <BoomerET> I used to be a developer, before I realized there was more money in networking.
17:03:24 <BoomerET> and where the hell do I get my Raspberry Pi? Jeesh
17:04:27 <BoomerET> Oh cool, $350 Buy It Now on eBay. Brand new they're $35, jeesh.
17:04:48 <Ballig> yeah but don't you want a BRAND NEW iphone (box) for $200?
17:04:53 <Ballig> I mean, it's a brand new IPHONE (box)
17:04:56 <Mort-> So yes. A human female bard in black leather using a whip
17:05:04 <Mort-> Should be interesting
17:05:08 <Nocte|Kazour> ...
17:05:11 <Nocte|Kazour> Perv.
17:05:16 <Mort-> If you could go thiefling
17:05:19 <Mort-> Even more fun
17:05:24 <Nocte|Kazour> Someone has watched too much porn.
17:05:39 <BoomerET> Hmm, not an Apple fanboy. Android fanboy.
17:05:51 <Nocte|Kazour> I wonder if your browsing history has a marathon's worth of porn streaming.
17:05:57 <Ballig> yeah but it's a brand new iphone (box)!
17:06:44 <BoomerET> A new box?????
17:07:00 <BoomerET> Damn, now that's a great deal.
17:07:18 <Ballig> for only $200!
17:07:20 <Ballig> and it's unlockeD!
17:07:48 <BoomerET> You doing the remake in Python?
17:07:56 <Ballig> no the remake was the Qt version
17:08:03 <Mort-> Actually it just shows to speak that something is wrong with me
17:08:17 <Mort-> Usually I'm as lawful good as they come
17:09:04 <BoomerET> I thought Qt was just a framework?
17:09:05 <Nocte|Kazour> Heh.
17:09:14 <Nocte|Kazour> Wish I got my book already.
17:09:19 <Nocte|Kazour> This waiting is killing me.
17:09:23 <Nocte|Kazour> >.>
17:09:53 <Mort-> Basically your spells will be on your cha
17:09:59 <Ballig> yeah, I didn't use Qt Python
17:10:02 <Ballig> I used Qt Visual C++
17:10:08 <BoomerET> Ahh, ok.
17:10:21 <Mort-> So my dear wizard. Who happens to be a trickster of a kind as well.
17:10:35 <Mort-> Pumps her int so she can play tricks on people
17:10:38 <BoomerET> Never really cared for C++, I grew up on C. OOP makes my brain go numb. Wrappers aren't my friend.
17:10:53 <Nocte|Kazour> *headwalls hard*
17:11:08 <Mort-> Besides spell tricks. You could get combat maneuver tricks as well
17:11:11 <BoomerET> I used to write firmware, and had to get down & dirty to eek out everything we possibly could.
17:11:18 <Nocte|Kazour> Yeh.
17:11:23 <Mort-> Aka dirty trick. Like kick him in the balls
17:11:30 <Nocte|Kazour> O.o
17:11:35 <Nocte|Kazour> That's a special move?
17:11:40 <Mort-> Hey. It inflicts sickened
17:11:40 <Nocte|Kazour> I thought everyone knows how to do it.
17:12:07 <BoomerET> Boss & Marketing Team: Dave, We just promised client that we could add XX to the modem. How long before you can have it done?
17:12:15 <Mort-> If i were doing dirty trick. Id say i want to kick him in the balls to give sickened condition
17:12:30 <Ballig> ha
17:12:30 <BoomerET> Dave: 2 years when Conexant comes out with their new chipset.
17:13:15 <Mort-> Though actually. Blind is a better condition to inflict as opposed to sickened
17:13:27 <BoomerET> I used to write firmware for DSL modems (and further back, drivers for HP jukeboxes)
17:14:02 <Mort-> Probably stab my knuckles into his eyes to blind him
17:14:05 <BoomerET> Now I sit in a chair, and if I feel froggy, pump out a couple lines of Ruby each day.
17:14:08 <Nocte|Kazour> Btw. "You are going to backstab him with a ballista?" Best line ever spoken in movie history.
17:14:24 <Ballig> did you not sit in a chair while you wrote firmware
17:14:24 <Mort-> Excuse me. I'm feeling hyde today
17:14:38 * Mort- grows a pair of horns
17:14:59 <BoomerET> Yup, and had an office where the entire back wall was 1st floor windows looking at a parking lot.
17:15:07 * Mort- tail loses its fur and becomes pointed
17:15:19 <BoomerET> Now I sit in an open area, and see models and designers all day long.
17:15:30 <Nocte|Kazour> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4ZeTAfYoY4 <- that is the part of the movie.
17:15:37 <Nocte|Kazour> Just watch.
17:15:50 <BoomerET> No more working in sausage factories for me!
17:16:14 <Ballig> yeah that chlorine smell would get to me
17:16:40 <Mort-> Can't
17:16:47 <Nocte|Kazour> Why?
17:16:51 <Mort-> At work
17:16:52 <Mort-> No you tube
17:17:50 <Nocte|Kazour> Why?
17:18:26 <Mort-> Don't be silly
17:18:38 <Mort-> Watching you tube while at work?
17:18:51 <Mort-> Everyone's going to see it
17:18:57 <Mort-> Anyway your bard
17:19:17 <Nocte|Kazour> So?
17:19:18 <Mort-> If you want to perform combat maneuver tricks
17:19:24 <Nocte|Kazour> Nothing risky. :p
17:19:30 <Mort-> You need either high str or dex.
17:19:33 <Nocte|Kazour> @ the video.
17:19:51 <Nocte|Kazour> Should I get better con?
17:19:55 <BoomerET> Where do I find Total Attack Bonus for a weapon I'm carrying?
17:20:02 <Mort-> If you gotake dex routeyou need agile maneuvers
17:20:18 <BoomerET> s/Where/How/g
17:20:22 <Mort-> I recommend 12 cons for everyone minimum
17:20:33 <Mort-> If you are going into melee. Make it 14
17:20:44 <Ballig> it'd be equal to your Base Attack Bonus + modifier (strength for melee, dexterity for ranged) and then any bonuses you might have with that specific weapon or weapon type
17:20:50 <Nocte|Kazour> Doesn't dwarves have +2 CON?
17:20:55 <Ballig> so if you have weapon focus in that kind of weapon, you'd add that. if it was a masterwork weapon, you'd add the masterwork bonus in there
17:20:57 <Ballig> etc
17:20:57 <Mort-> Dwarf is kind of suboptimal for bard
17:21:07 <Mort-> Yes after racial modifiers
17:21:20 <Nocte|Kazour> That means I will have 14 if I take 12.
17:21:27 <Mort-> Because of the -2 cha on racial
17:21:36 <Nocte|Kazour> Meh.
17:21:41 <Nocte|Kazour> It only drops it to 14.
17:21:50 <Mort-> I recommend since as bard you don't have heavy armor
17:22:05 <Mort-> You don't want to get too happy meleeing
17:22:15 <Mort-> Again some wouldnt be fked
17:22:24 <Nocte|Kazour> So I should take strength penalty to get more points or?
17:22:39 <Nocte|Kazour> Not gonna plan on meleeing.
17:23:03 <Avatar> Nocte|Kazour: good movie
17:23:04 <Mort-> Whatever. I'm not a bard.
17:23:24 <Nocte|Kazour> I know right Avatar?
17:23:31 <Avatar> have you seen the full thing
17:23:33 <Avatar> and the sequel
17:23:35 <Nocte|Kazour> Seen Dorkness Rising?
17:23:37 <BoomerET> Ok, so on the example template, I see +10/+5 for TAB. +10 is melee and +5 is ranged?
17:23:39 <Avatar> YEP
17:23:39 <Nocte|Kazour> Oh right.
17:23:42 <Mort-> Mind you. You take strength penalty. I'm not carrying your gear.
17:23:45 <Nocte|Kazour> I've seen them.
17:23:48 <Nocte|Kazour> Fun stuff.
17:23:50 <BoomerET> (On the morningstar)
17:23:56 <Mort-> You can ask hydra to. I wouldn't
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17:24:00 <Ballig> nah. that would be to show you how it works when you have iterative attacks
17:24:12 <Ballig> once your base attack bonus is at +6 or higher, you get another attack
17:24:17 <BoomerET> Ahhhh, ok.
17:24:25 <Ballig> so a base attack bonus of +6 is written as +6/+1 because the second attack is always 5 less
17:24:30 <Nocte|Kazour> I mean, who brings over 10 character sheets to a game?
17:24:44 <BoomerET> Even when I played 2e, I never really knew the rules, jeesh. Don't know what makes me think I can now.
17:24:48 <Nocte|Kazour> A guy who knows he's going to die a lot.
17:25:11 <BoomerET> Excellent, great explanation, thanks.
17:25:26 * Mort- shrugs
17:25:37 <Mort-> I think I'm out of ideas for characters
17:25:39 <Mort-> For now
17:25:47 <Nocte|Kazour> Play a paladin.
17:25:48 <Nocte|Kazour> :p
17:25:49 <Mort-> I just want to level them up
17:25:51 <Mort-> No
17:25:54 <Nocte|Kazour> What?
17:25:56 <Mort-> No pallies.
17:26:02 <Nocte|Kazour> You got something against Paladins?
17:26:07 <Mort-> They are trouble magnets
17:26:22 <Nocte|Kazour> Nah.
17:26:27 <Mort-> Please. I spend the last half h trying to hint you about s and m
17:26:28 <Nocte|Kazour> If you play them right.
17:26:41 <Mort-> And you're telling me to roll a pally? :p
17:26:41 <Nocte|Kazour> I mean.
17:26:47 <Nocte|Kazour> Just play them as GOOD.
17:26:51 <Nocte|Kazour> Not LAWFUL STUPID.
17:26:56 <Mort-> Nice judge of character you are ^^
17:26:57 <Nocte|Kazour> So it will work.
17:27:07 <Mort-> If i went pally i would fall
17:27:09 <Nocte|Kazour> They are more about good than law.
17:27:27 <Nocte|Kazour> Ever thought that way?
17:28:01 <Mort-> Why do you need a pally.
17:28:22 <Mort-> So you can push him in front to keep monsters off you
17:28:29 <Avatar> mort what if you played a wizard who was lawful good
17:28:36 <Mort-> And disarm the traps by setting them off
17:28:44 <Mort-> By charging to peoples rescue
17:28:53 <Mort-> Mort is neutral good thank god
17:29:02 <Mort-> And most of my characters are neutral
17:29:06 <Mort-> Or cn
17:29:23 <Mort-> Praise be on no alignment headaches
17:30:59 <Nocte|Kazour> Mort... Somehow I can't answer to your PM.
17:31:09 <Nocte|Kazour> Not registered or something.
17:31:27 <Nocte|Kazour> So anyways, I have pretty much, no life.
17:31:43 <Nocte|Kazour> Only occasional Friday Night Magics on Fridays.
17:32:10 * Nocte|Kazour yawns.
17:32:35 <Nocte|Kazour> How do I register my nick name?
17:33:26 <Avatar> your username or your character name?
17:33:47 <Mort-> Its ok
17:33:49 <Avatar> give me your character name and I'lla dd it
17:34:05 <Nocte|Kazour> Username on IRC.
17:34:35 <Nocte|Kazour> Uh...
17:34:43 <Mort-> Character name
17:34:51 <Nocte|Kazour> So /Register Password Email ?
17:34:52 <Mort-> Do not name your character after yourself
17:34:58 <Mort-> Like i did
17:35:13 <Mort-> Can't remember how to register now
17:37:04 <Mort-> Try a /msg nickserv register
17:37:31 <Nocte|Kazour> Does this show to you all?
17:37:33 <Mort-> Anyway. I'm in the mood for gnome punting now
17:37:41 <Mort-> No
17:38:50 <Mort-> Follow the prompts they give you
17:39:05 <Nocte|Kazour> They? Who are they?
17:40:13 <Mort-> Nickserv
17:40:21 <Nocte|Kazour> Oh.
17:40:22 <Nocte|Kazour> K.
17:40:26 <Nocte|Kazour> Got registered now.
17:40:37 <Nocte|Kazour> Ok. It works now.
17:41:58 <Hydrazine> ha.
17:42:22 <Hydrazine> We're pretty good on the rules. Mostly. Feel free to ask if you get anything else.
17:42:36 <Hydrazine> Yeah. 10/5 TAB means you can swing twice in a full attack.
17:53:14 <Avatar> oh on IRC
17:57:00 <Nocte|Kazour> ...
17:57:02 <Nocte|Kazour> Hm.
17:57:08 <Nocte|Kazour> I need to find an easy way to map.
17:57:57 <Mort-> Map what
17:58:11 <Nocte|Kazour> Fantasy world maps.
17:58:16 <Nocte|Kazour> For D&D and other stuff.
17:58:35 <Avatar> use CA
17:58:45 <Nocte|Kazour> CA?
17:58:59 <Mort-> Combat assistant
17:59:38 <Nocte|Kazour> Does it do world maps?
18:00:01 <Mort-> If you want it to
18:00:30 <Nocte|Kazour> Oh. Android app?
18:00:39 <Mort-> No
18:01:10 <Nocte|Kazour> Care to link?
18:01:17 <Nocte|Kazour> As usual. I fail at googling.
18:01:19 <Nocte|Kazour> Seriously.
18:01:39 * Mort- facepalms
18:01:43 <Avatar> it's on that page I linked before
18:01:50 <Mort-> I'm on a cell and i Google better then you,g
18:01:52 <Mort-> ?
18:02:14 <Avatar> [16:39] <Avatar> go here:
18:02:15 <Avatar> [16:39] <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/newbie_guide.htm
18:02:15 <Avatar> [16:39] <Avatar> and get everything on that page
18:02:50 <Avatar> you'll want the beta version of CA
18:03:39 <Nocte|Kazour> Which one's the beta?
18:04:59 <Nocte|Kazour> CA v2 (build 772) <- this
18:05:00 <Nocte|Kazour> ?
18:12:08 <Avatar> yeah
18:12:26 <Avatar> er
18:12:26 <Avatar> no
18:12:28 <Avatar> 2.1
18:12:37 <Nocte|Kazour> Try to decide. Lol.
18:12:48 <BoomerET> I'm down to my skills!!! Another couple days and I might have this sheet filled in!
18:12:52 <Avatar> sorry, I could've sworn it was a beta before
18:27:08 <N2H4> DEMACIA!
18:27:15 N2H4 is now known as Hydrazine
18:27:42 <Nocte|Kazour> You know what I Found guys?
18:27:52 <Nocte|Kazour> AKS Hexmapper!
18:27:55 <Nocte|Kazour> WOOT!
18:29:03 <Nocte|Kazour> You guys know what it is right?
18:29:06 <Hydrazine> Who uses hex maps?
18:29:09 <Nocte|Kazour> I do.
18:29:14 <Nocte|Kazour> They look so cool.
18:30:42 <Brunius> I plan to
18:31:36 <Nocte|Kazour> Anyone want the link?
18:54:23 <Mort-> Bru can you play on weekday nights?
18:54:43 <Mort-> Nocte here doesn't mind doing it on weekday nights
18:54:49 <Mort-> Well for me not tonight
19:00:55 <Mekkis> Mort-, will you take the mount evolution?
19:01:58 <Nocte|Kazour> Mekkis, do you use Hexmaps?
19:02:17 <Mekkis> Nocte|Kazour, I haven't, except for large-scale mapping
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19:02:43 <Nocte|Kazour> Do you know the AKS Hexmapper?
19:02:48 <Mekkis> no
19:02:57 <Mekkis> I just use inkscape or autocad
19:02:59 <Nocte|Kazour> Its pretty cool, makes old school maps.
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19:05:02 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/kingdom.pdf Warning: may contain spoilers if you're playing in a kingmaker campaign, or plan to.
19:05:03 <Nocte|Kazour> http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAtTjSwWUlEkvZAnF27tiRIO9Ay7DDZjWL5jNwCf2KNtItSCcpBv-M4R07xA this is the kind of map it makes.
19:05:18 <Mekkis> Mort-, if you trust you'll forget it after a month, go ahead :)
19:05:32 <Mekkis> my URLs are cleaner than yours
19:05:46 <Nocte|Kazour> Check the map.
19:05:50 <Nocte|Kazour> It looks pretty cool.
19:07:42 <Mekkis> not really
19:07:47 <Mekkis> doesn't let me see anything in it
19:08:11 <Nocte|Kazour> Oh.
19:08:20 <Nocte|Kazour> Well... You gotta wait till I do my map.
19:08:28 <Nocte|Kazour> So I can upload a good pic.
19:13:04 <Mort-> I may
19:13:07 <Mort-> Or may not
19:13:19 <Mort-> I think its not worth it
19:13:35 <Mort-> Mekkis. Because I'm not a combat trained mount
19:13:51 <Mort-> Anyone riding me needs 20 dc ride check
19:14:11 <Mort-> Anyone who has the ride skill to make that check
19:14:17 <Mort-> Probably has a mount of their own already
19:14:34 <Mort-> Mekkis. I shouldn't look
19:14:48 <Mekkis> why not?
19:15:04 <Mort-> My memory is weird in a way. Some things especially emotionally charged memories
19:15:11 <Mort-> I can never forget
19:15:52 <Mort-> Anyway about the mount bit
19:16:03 <Mort-> Make a 20 dc ride check lol
19:16:43 <Mort-> I even tried ways to give myself war training. But I'm not an animal so handle animal doesn't work ^^
19:17:51 <Mekkis> Mort-, Mount (Ex): An eidolon is properly skilled and formed to serve as a combat-trained mount.
19:17:57 <Mort-> I think you are really lucky to have a regular group to game with
19:18:00 <Mort-> Oh really?
19:18:05 <Mort-> Bring it on :d
19:18:09 <Mort-> Just for kicks
19:18:19 <Mort-> That's going to be fun!
19:18:36 <Mort-> Sorry. Player likes that. Have to speak with character in question
19:19:09 <Mort-> Hm. Probably wouldn't like it too much
19:19:11 <Mekkis> Mort-, lucky?
19:19:17 <Mekkis> hell, it's something I built up!
19:19:33 <Mort-> Would you xanian like it if someone mounted him?
19:19:34 <Mort-> Lol
19:19:45 <Mort-> Its a tad undignified
19:19:49 <Mekkis> or is it?
19:19:55 <Mekkis> welll
19:19:58 <Mekkis> for a start
19:20:07 <Mort-> Unless i was going for the pally and the mount got mixed story
19:20:15 <Mekkis> This evolution is only available to eidolons of the quadruped and serpentine base forms.
19:20:22 <Mekkis> so it's not happening to Xanian
19:20:25 <Mekkis> he's biped
19:23:58 <Mort-> Of course
19:24:07 <Mort-> I can take it if i want to
19:24:13 <Mort-> Do i want to?
19:24:22 <Mekkis> you wouldn't want someone who can negate hits on you?
19:24:30 <Mort-> I personally think getting mounted is a bit..
19:24:40 <Mort-> Why would anyone get mounted combat
19:24:44 <Mort-> Without a mount?
19:24:56 <Mort-> Besides id be more worried about my rider :p
19:25:00 <Mort-> Then myself
19:25:17 <Mort-> But oh man a charging jerus would be hilarious
19:25:25 <Mort-> Extremely
19:25:31 <Mort-> But i need to be large first
19:26:02 <Mort-> At the moment all i can do is carry small races
19:26:15 <Mort-> Which usually aren't fighters
19:27:08 <Mekkis> there's Grolschmir!
19:27:44 <Mekkis> Mort-, would Xyn turn up to a party fused?
19:28:26 <Mekkis> !play fortuneo
19:28:28 <ZorkBot> "Water? Never touch the stuff! Fish fuck in it."
19:28:30 <ZorkBot> -- W. C. Fields
19:28:32 <ZorkBot> The interpreter has ended the session.
19:28:33 <Mort-> Atm she goes everywhere fused
19:28:34 <Mort-> Actually
19:28:57 <Mort-> Her form isn't monsterous so to speak
19:29:11 <Mort-> A sphnix with hands!
19:29:20 <Mort-> Id say it looks exotic personally
19:29:35 <Mort-> Think egyptian legends
19:29:37 <Mekkis> so not good in a superstitious community!
19:30:43 <Mort-> I can appear in my usual form if i have to
19:31:03 <Mort-> I didn't totally dumpstat my physical stats
19:33:17 <Mort-> Not an issue
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19:33:40 <Mort-> But i should get something to appear in
19:33:55 <Mort-> Grolshmir
19:33:56 <Mort-> Btw
19:34:01 <Mort-> Has his own roc.
19:34:35 <Mort-> Why are you riding a sphinix when you have your own animal companion?
19:35:04 <Mort-> With enlarge person i could carry medium. Problem is enlarging is something only i can do
19:35:06 <Mort-> Wastes time
19:35:43 <Nocte|Kazour> http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z402/Nocte32/LandofCliche.jpg <- my map done on AKS Hexmap.
19:36:28 <Mort-> There is never enough time for enlarge person in combat
19:36:35 <Mort-> And no one can do it for me
19:39:03 <Mort-> Though what id really really want is more opportunities to play her
19:40:38 <Nocte|Kazour> ...
19:40:42 * Nocte|Kazour yawns.
19:41:06 * Nocte|Kazour uses sleep on Mort
19:42:01 * Mort- is an elf
19:42:07 * Mort- isn't affected
19:42:11 <Nocte|Kazour> Damnit.
19:42:30 * Nocte|Kazour tries to cast the spell on Mekkis
19:45:27 <Mort-> And level 8 is so far away
19:45:37 <Mort-> Actually level 9 for me due to dip
19:46:07 <Mort-> Mekkis most fights you never have time to pre buff do you?
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19:53:21 <Nocte|Kazour> *is bored*
20:01:51 <Mort-> K I'm out
20:02:00 <Mort-> Might need to dc though
20:02:16 <Mort-> Cell is fked up if not linked to power source
20:05:17 <Mort-> Hm. How interesting. You said it was something you built up
20:05:17 <Mort-> That means you deserve it!
20:05:20 * Mort- hugs mekk
20:05:52 <Mort-> Great. It probably means i should start trying to convince my brother to pfs
20:06:01 * Mort- sighs
20:06:22 <Mort-> Out of idle speculation what would he roll...
20:06:30 <Mort-> No clue.
20:06:55 <Mort-> For all i know he might actually roll up a pally ^^
20:06:59 <Mort-> Guessing a cleric though
20:07:15 <Mort-> If he rolled a gs i would eat my hat
20:07:19 <Nocte|Kazour> Are you talking to yourself?
20:07:20 <Nocte|Kazour> O.o
20:07:23 <Nocte|Kazour> Weird.
20:07:26 <Mort-> I think he would not roll a class without spells
20:07:36 <Mort-> I'm talking about my brother
20:07:43 <Mort-> Musing out loud
20:08:08 <Nocte|Kazour> Hmm.
20:08:23 <Nocte|Kazour> And what does GS mean?
20:10:10 <Mort-> Gunslinger
20:10:25 <Nocte|Kazour> Ewww.
20:10:31 * Nocte|Kazour dislikes.
20:14:09 <Avatar> gunslinger is a sweet class I'll have you know
20:14:25 <Nocte|Kazour> I know but I just dislike guns in fantasy setting.
20:14:57 <Nocte|Kazour> And isn't Gunslinger advanced class?
20:15:37 <Avatar> how do you define an advanced class
20:15:51 <Avatar> it's not a core class
20:16:16 <Nocte|Kazour> Advanced as in the Advanced book.
20:16:54 <Nocte|Kazour> What was it called, Advanced Player's Guide=
20:16:56 <Nocte|Kazour> ?*
20:17:03 <Nocte|Kazour> That's what I mean with the Advanced.
20:17:18 <Nocte|Kazour> So isn't that a no in Pathfinder Society?
20:22:13 <Mort-> You can play a gunslinger in pfs
20:22:36 <Mort-> Avatar. Not saying anything about the class in question
20:22:43 <Mort-> But my brother like me likes options
20:22:50 <Nocte|Kazour> Do they allow stuff from APG?
20:22:50 <Mort-> And hates being without magic
20:22:56 <Mort-> Yes
20:23:12 <Mort-> I wouldn't be surprised if he rolls a wizard
20:23:12 <Nocte|Kazour> Then tell him to play sorcerer if he wants magic.
20:23:15 <Nocte|Kazour> >.>
20:23:18 <Mort-> No
20:23:25 <Mort-> He will go wizard over sorc
20:23:29 <Mort-> He likes versatility
20:23:31 <Nocte|Kazour> Because Sorcerers have pretty epic bloodlines.
20:23:40 <Nocte|Kazour> Especially Dragon.
20:23:45 <Mort-> Having a limited spell list won't make him happy
20:23:54 <Mort-> He is a packrat like me
20:24:09 <Mort-> He wants to own spells just because they are shiny
20:24:30 <Nocte|Kazour> So are APG stuff allowed in Pathfinder Society?
20:24:36 <Mort-> Yes
20:25:15 <Mort-> But he is more cautious then i am by nature
20:25:54 <Mort-> So i wouldn't be surprised if he went for the biggest plate mail he could find. Then use a shield
20:26:03 <Nocte|Kazour> O.o
20:26:09 <Nocte|Kazour> Wizard with platemail?
20:26:11 <Nocte|Kazour> Lol.
20:26:15 <Mort-> He is unlikely to play glass cannons i think
20:26:33 <Mort-> More likely a sword and board pally
20:26:34 <Nocte|Kazour> You don't need wizard robes and hats to be a wizard.
20:26:53 <Hydrazine> I do.
20:27:10 <Mort-> Or take a cleric. Then heavy armor profeciency
20:27:10 <Mort-> Then hit everyone with mace
20:27:15 <Hydrazine> I also need real life clairvoyance to play a wizard.
20:27:24 <Nocte|Kazour> Why?
20:27:36 <Hydrazine> Because I have this thing about wizards and spell selection.
20:27:59 <Hydrazine> My spells per day never equal what would actually be useful for the situations at hand.
20:29:27 <Hydrazine> Like if I pack something ridiculous like.. create boat, we'd have all combat that day. next day, we'd get lost at sea.
20:29:42 <Mort-> Just put glitterdust
20:29:43 <Mort-> And hideous laughter
20:29:43 <Mort-> Matter settled
20:29:44 <Mort-> Keep scrolls of enlarge person on you
20:29:44 <Mort-> In your spring loaded wrist sheathe
20:29:44 <Mort-> What you don't memorize you cover with scrolls
20:29:44 <Mort-> Anyway. Is interesting to speculate what my brother would roll up
20:29:44 <Mort-> That brother i keep talking about
20:30:16 <Mort-> Runes of magic. I played druid/mage. He played knight/priest
20:30:24 <Mort-> I tell you
20:30:31 <Nocte|Kazour> How old is he?
20:30:34 <Mort-> Glitterdust and hideous laughter
20:30:43 <Mort-> 4 years older then me
20:30:51 <Nocte|Kazour> And you are?
20:30:53 <Nocte|Kazour> -.-'
20:30:57 <Mort-> Create boat should be scrolled
20:30:59 <Mort-> 25
20:31:06 <Nocte|Kazour> O.o
20:31:07 <Nocte|Kazour> He's old.
20:31:26 <Mort-> I don't know how he would sound like on irc.
20:31:36 <Mort-> He is a lot more serious minded then me
20:32:01 <Mort-> I'm the giggly-havefun-mur
20:32:10 * Nocte|Kazour goes to lurk on other sites.
20:32:16 <Nocte|Kazour> >:|
20:32:19 <Mort-> He probably would appear only when a game was going to be run
20:32:32 <Brunius> Why are you going to lurk?
20:32:41 <Nocte|Kazour> Annoyed that I can't find solo game.
20:32:43 <Hydrazine> Lurk lurk lurk.
20:33:20 <Mort-> But i think he would find pfs too slow
20:33:33 <Mort-> He can't really commit for 6 h straight
20:33:54 * Nocte|Kazour needs a GM for a solo game badly.
20:34:05 <Brunius> Why a solo game?
20:34:27 <Nocte|Kazour> Dunno, can't seem to find a smaller group.
20:34:44 <Hydrazine> Why do you need a smaller group?
20:34:51 <Nocte|Kazour> To keep up with the posts.
20:34:59 <Brunius> Um
20:35:04 <Brunius> We're not play by post here
20:35:07 <Brunius> You know that, right?
20:35:13 <Nocte|Kazour> Play by voice or chat?
20:35:17 <Brunius> chat, usually
20:35:21 <Brunius> voice on the side
20:35:24 <Nocte|Kazour> Play by Post.
20:35:28 <Nocte|Kazour> I count it as that.
20:35:43 <Nocte|Kazour> Because you post to play.
20:35:45 <Nocte|Kazour> :p
20:35:47 <Nocte|Kazour> Simple.
20:36:04 <Nocte|Kazour> I got somekind of story thing that I would love to try out.
20:36:17 <Mort-> At least if you're playing d3 you can just leave midgame
20:36:19 <Mort-> I don't gm anything
20:36:19 <Mort-> So I'm the wrong person to ask
20:37:54 <Nocte|Kazour> Whoa.
20:38:11 <Nocte|Kazour> On this site there's amazingly 4.0e searches.
20:38:16 <Nocte|Kazour> I thought it sucked balls.
20:38:23 <Nocte|Kazour> Don't see why people enjoy it. >.>
20:39:13 <Hydrazine> Heh.
20:39:33 <Hydrazine> Some people like terrible books and movies and TV shows too.
20:39:37 <Hydrazine> Takes all kinds, man.
20:39:38 <Nocte|Kazour> Yeah.
20:39:41 <Nocte|Kazour> Like Twilight.
20:39:42 <Brunius> Take twilight
20:39:45 <Brunius> Ha
20:39:45 <Nocte|Kazour> HAH!
20:39:50 <Nocte|Kazour> Stop copying me.
20:39:59 <Nocte|Kazour> :p
20:40:13 <Nocte|Kazour> You seen the "Twilight Honest Trailer" vid?
20:40:19 <Brunius> Nope
20:40:35 <Nocte|Kazour> http://www.collegehumor.com/embed/6747942/honest-twilight-trailer here.
20:41:04 <Avatar> dude the way we play is not play by post at all
20:41:09 <Hydrazine> I think the part that kills me about twilight.
20:41:14 * Mort- likes twilight though
20:41:16 <Hydrazine> Is that the main character doesn't do anything,
20:41:22 <Nocte|Kazour> WHAT!?
20:41:27 <Nocte|Kazour> HOW DARE YOU LIKE TWILIGHT!?
20:41:28 * Nocte|Kazour rants
20:41:54 <Nocte|Kazour> Lol "Don't worry, its not pedophilia because he looks 17."
20:43:13 <Mort-> Oh dear
20:43:14 <Mort-> Doesn't she in the 3rd or 4th book?
20:43:14 <Mort-> Ah well I'm not such a twilight fan that id try to burn people at stake for disliking twilight
20:43:14 <Mort-> And the main character is human ffs.
20:43:33 <Nocte|Kazour> Mort, why do you like Twilight?
20:43:35 <Mort-> You don't expect a level 1 human commoner to do much in party when there are lyancantrope fighters and vampire monks who are like level 10 do you?
20:43:37 <Nocte|Kazour> What's the reason?
20:43:53 <Mort-> I think its cool that love can transcend barriers
20:43:59 <Mort-> Racial ones
20:44:03 <Nocte|Kazour> Love based on looks?
20:44:05 <Nocte|Kazour> No thanks.
20:44:19 <Hydrazine> I think its cool that main characters can do absolutely nothing in books about them!
20:44:45 <Brunius> I like trains.
20:45:11 <Nocte|Kazour> And?
20:45:20 <Mort-> Well whatever
20:45:20 <Mort-> Its like you don't have to be stuck with your own race
20:45:20 <Mort-> Anyway
20:45:20 <Mort-> Phone running out of bat
20:45:20 <Mort-> May dc anytime
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20:45:29 <Hydrazine> ..huh.
20:45:33 <Nocte|Kazour> O.o
20:45:41 <Nocte|Kazour> The....
20:46:58 <Nocte|Kazour> Hmm.
20:47:17 <Nocte|Kazour> Might as well try to memorize some of the monsters... So I'm going to read the Bestiary.
20:48:27 <Avatar> um
20:48:29 <Avatar> shouldn't do that
20:48:43 <Avatar> anything you know about monsters should be gleaned from knowledge checks
20:48:57 <Nocte|Kazour> I mean.
20:48:58 <Avatar> if you know about it by reading the bestiary beforehand, you open yourself up to metagaming
20:49:04 <Nocte|Kazour> If I'm ever going to GM.
20:49:16 <Nocte|Kazour> So might as well.
20:49:20 <Avatar> wait until you come across a specific monster you have to deal with
20:52:06 <Nocte|Kazour> Avatar, know anyone who might be able to run a solo game for me?
20:52:53 <Brunius> Nobody does solo games here
20:53:57 <Nocte|Kazour> I have this pretty fun idea that when I'm good to go as a GM have another GM and switch roles each week. With each week would be different character's story in the same land and at some point these characters would meet each other and have a duel of some sort.
20:59:00 <Avatar> the only time we've ever done solo games was for a single session
20:59:05 <Avatar> or for split parties
20:59:20 <Avatar> I've never seen them done anywhere else
20:59:59 <Avatar> PFS scenarios have faction missions where you usually split off from your team
21:01:07 <Hydrazine> I've done a solo session once in exalted. but that was special case. Had a big personal sidequest.
21:01:28 <Nocte|Kazour> Exalted?
21:01:34 <Nocte|Kazour> I have heard of that.
21:02:13 <Hydrazine> I'm fond of it. Miss it even.
21:02:25 <Hydrazine> Haven't played in ages.
21:02:30 <Nocte|Kazour> So what's the deal with Exalted?
21:02:35 <Nocte|Kazour> What kind of game is it?
21:03:49 <Hydrazine> So.. think of the general idea of D&D. Characters that're better than 'normal' people and go around doing stuff.
21:04:14 <Hydrazine> And then you mix in some kung fu movie type stuff, and alot of asian flavor.
21:04:27 <Nocte|Kazour> So Anime D&D?
21:04:27 <Hydrazine> And replace the whole dice system.
21:05:00 <Hydrazine> Sorta, but the entire ground rules for the system is completely different.
21:05:22 <Nocte|Kazour> What kind of system does it use?
21:05:26 <Nocte|Kazour> Complex or easy?
21:05:59 <Hydrazine> Familiar with d10 stuff?
21:06:06 <Nocte|Kazour> Nah.
21:06:23 <Hydrazine> If you've only really dealt with d20 it feels a bit alien at first, but overall I think its really pretty simple.
21:06:45 <Nocte|Kazour> K, btw seen the antique d20?
21:06:56 <Nocte|Kazour> Looks pretty funny.
21:07:45 <Nocte|Kazour> http://craphound.com/images/d4205385x.jpg this one.
21:08:09 <Hydrazine> So you roll d10 to get 7 or higher. Thats how you make DCs. So instead of flat modifiers, most of the system works to give you more dice to roll.
21:09:34 <Hydrazine> Never in exalted do you actually count the total on a dice roll. Just if its 7 or higher. So overall game play moves pretty fast.
21:10:09 <Nocte|Kazour> Sounds kind of easy.
21:10:44 <Nocte|Kazour> What's the chance of rolling 7 or more on d10?
21:11:23 <Hydrazine> About 40%?
21:11:41 <Hydrazine> To complicate a little, 1s, you subtract from your total, 10s you count twice.
21:11:49 <Mekkis> exactly 40%
21:12:03 <Hydrazine> So a roll of 10 7 6 4 1, is 2 successes.
21:12:50 <Mekkis> d10s shouldn't exist
21:12:54 <Mekkis> they are an insult
21:13:00 <Nocte|Kazour> Hey!
21:13:08 <Nocte|Kazour> They are used for d100
21:13:13 <Nocte|Kazour> So they are good.
21:13:26 <Mekkis> Nocte|Kazour, I have said that statement in a restaurant full of L5R players, I'll say it here
21:13:35 <Mekkis> and survived!
21:13:40 <Nocte|Kazour> L5R?
21:13:43 <Mekkis> they theoretically don't exist
21:13:53 <Mekkis> Legend of the Five Rings - a d10-based LARP
21:14:00 <Nocte|Kazour> LOL.
21:14:02 <Nocte|Kazour> LARP.
21:14:03 <Nocte|Kazour> HAH.
21:14:16 <Mekkis> don't piss off larpers
21:14:22 <Nocte|Kazour> A larp that uses dice?
21:14:24 <Nocte|Kazour> :D
21:14:35 <Mekkis> you can LARP exalted
21:14:46 <Nocte|Kazour> You can Larp Pathfinder.
21:14:47 <Nocte|Kazour> >.>
21:14:58 <Mekkis> not well
21:15:05 <Nocte|Kazour> Yeah, but you can.
21:15:08 <Mekkis> it's too rules-heavy, and tries to be balanced
21:15:32 <Nocte|Kazour> Too balanced is never good.
21:15:40 <Nocte|Kazour> See what happened in D&D 4.0?
21:15:45 <Mekkis> I know
21:16:09 <Mekkis> but you can't deny that Pathfinder tries to be balanced. It also tries to balance the vast diversity
21:16:30 <Nocte|Kazour> At least it doesn't ruin everything.
21:16:46 <Nocte|Kazour> And uses 3.5e OGL.
21:17:00 <Mekkis> but we're talking d10s here
21:17:09 <Mekkis> and how they theoretically can't exist
21:17:21 <Hydrazine> No what way do they not?
21:17:46 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, find me a regular decahedron, and I'll agree with you.
21:19:19 <Nocte|Kazour> Seriously, what's wrong with you and d10s?
21:19:29 <Mekkis> they theoretically can't exist!
21:19:30 <Hydrazine> hes dicist.
21:20:34 <Mekkis> can anyone help me set up UUCP on debian?
21:21:17 <Nocte|Kazour> Hmm.
21:21:46 <Nocte|Kazour> I can only read some books for 10 pages a day...
21:21:48 <Nocte|Kazour> Sucks.
21:22:11 <Nocte|Kazour> I need to make my reading speed faster!
21:22:50 <Hydrazine> I think your problem with the d10 is rather like Mort's problem with gnomes.
21:23:02 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, how so
21:23:06 <Avatar> baseless :P
21:23:11 <Mekkis> mine is based on facts!
21:23:21 <Mekkis> Mort's is based on heresy, and popular culture
21:23:28 <Nocte|Kazour> And where can these facts be found?
21:23:40 <Hydrazine> the fact that its not regular in no way interferes with its properties as a dice.
21:23:55 <Mekkis> ummm... a dice is a regular polyhedron.
21:26:14 <Mekkis> Why is it replacing sendmail with postfix?
21:27:38 <Hydrazine> But a d10 is a die. Which I think illustrates that not all dice are regular polyhedrons.
21:28:19 <Mekkis> no. it just illustrates that market forces can attempt to change the definition of a term
21:28:35 <Mekkis> I REFUSE TO BE MANIPULATED BY SUCH THINGS!
21:36:09 * Nocte|Kazour is bored.
21:36:15 * Nocte|Kazour goes to lurk.
21:36:25 <Mekkis> read rgfd
21:36:47 <Nocte|Kazour> rgfd?
21:36:59 <Mekkis> rec.games.frp.dnd
21:37:33 <Nocte|Kazour> Link?
21:37:43 <Mekkis> news://rec.games.frp.dnd
21:42:01 <Mekkis> hmmm
21:42:17 <Mekkis> how can I absorb the neighbouring kingdom without starting a war?
21:42:18 * Nocte|Kazour sighs.
21:42:54 <Nocte|Kazour> Easily beating them before a war starts.
21:43:24 <Mekkis> it's a bit hard for an adventuring party to defeat another kingdom
21:43:25 <Mekkis> hmmm
21:43:34 <Mekkis> perhaps challenge the leader to single-combat
21:45:01 <Mekkis> how much diplomacy would it take?
21:45:02 <Nocte|Kazour> Just sneak attack the king with a ballista.
21:45:41 <Nocte|Kazour> What setting are you playing in?
21:45:48 <Mekkis> Golarion
21:45:52 <Nocte|Kazour> Oh.
21:45:53 <Nocte|Kazour> Hmm.
21:46:12 <Mekkis> I'm playing a paladin....
21:46:19 <Nocte|Kazour> Lure the king out somehow?
21:46:26 <Nocte|Kazour> And kill him.
21:46:37 <Mekkis> how would that help?
21:46:38 <Nocte|Kazour> Nah, too bad you are a paladin.
21:46:51 <Nocte|Kazour> Easier to conquer while the kingdom is in chaos.
21:47:00 <Nocte|Kazour> Dead king = chaos.
21:47:46 <Mekkis> so the rest of the party can assassinate the other king
21:48:06 <Mekkis> and then I can come in promising peace, stability, glory and that sort of thing?
21:48:15 <Nocte|Kazour> Maybe.
21:48:20 <Nocte|Kazour> What kind of king is your target?
21:48:31 <Nocte|Kazour> Good or evil?
21:48:47 <Nocte|Kazour> And is there slaves in Golarion?
21:48:52 <Nocte|Kazour> Lead a slave rebellion.
21:48:53 <Nocte|Kazour> :P
21:49:12 <Mekkis> not sure
21:49:18 <Mekkis> and in some parts, yes
21:50:38 <Mekkis> Golarion is a large place
21:50:51 <Mekkis> http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/map_images/91329/Golarion_Map.jpg
21:51:29 <Mekkis> for reference, my kingdom's just south of Brevoy
21:59:46 <Nocte|Kazour> Too bad that I can't ever own the setting stuff for Pathfinder.
21:59:52 <Nocte|Kazour> Too pricy.
22:01:15 <Mekkis> ever is a long time
22:01:26 <Nocte|Kazour> I mean... 40£ for setting book?
22:01:33 <Nocte|Kazour> I would rather write up a setting.
22:01:44 <Nocte|Kazour> Or just wing it.
22:01:48 <Mekkis> you pay in pounds?
22:01:52 <Mekkis> not kronor?
22:01:54 <Nocte|Kazour> Amazon.
22:02:03 <Nocte|Kazour> We use euros.
22:02:13 <Mekkis> I've been buying off Paizo
22:02:23 <Mekkis> they charge USD...
22:02:34 <Mekkis> (still cheaper than in a shop over here)
22:02:47 <Nocte|Kazour> Really?
22:02:56 <Mekkis> yeah
22:03:04 <Nocte|Kazour> I got these books cheaper from Amazon than the local gaming store.
22:03:15 <Mekkis> shops charge ~$AU80 for a core rulebook
22:03:21 <Nocte|Kazour> O.o?
22:03:23 <Mekkis> other than that, there's always google: which has a lot of the setting information on it
22:03:35 <Nocte|Kazour> I usually like to hold the real copy.
22:03:40 <Nocte|Kazour> And read.
22:03:45 <Nocte|Kazour> So I can memorize better.
22:03:53 <Mekkis> (that being said, over the last month, the AUD dropped from USD1.08 to 0.98)
22:04:03 <Nocte|Kazour> O.o
22:04:19 <Mekkis> I blame the greeks
22:04:48 <Nocte|Kazour> Anyways, I got Bestiary and Game Mastery from Book Depositary or some what's it called. They sold both for under 20£
22:05:13 <Mekkis> I've never used the game mastery guide
22:05:16 <Mekkis> pity, really
22:05:20 <Brunius> Is it really at 0.98 now Mekkis?
22:05:48 <Mekkis> it dropped below .99 a few days ago
22:05:56 <Mekkis> it's back at .994 now
22:06:06 <Brunius> Man
22:06:10 <Mekkis> I know
22:06:16 <Mekkis> I had to pay my server bills!
22:06:19 <Mekkis> in USD!
22:06:23 <Brunius> ha
22:07:29 <Mekkis> http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=AUD&to=USD&view=1M
22:07:56 <Brunius> :(
22:07:58 <Nocte|Kazour> And I'm still waiting for my 28£ Core Rulebook. >.>
22:08:19 <Mekkis> other books I'd recommend are APG and UM
22:08:24 <Mekkis> Ultimate Combat not so much
22:08:51 <Mekkis> one day Brunius will get a job and buy an APG :)
22:12:33 * Nocte|Kazour pokes Mekkis
22:13:01 * Mekkis prods Nocte|Kazour
22:13:39 <Mekkis> or you do what I do, and buy the books, then pirate the PDFs :S
22:13:53 <Avatar> bit of a nasty dig at brunius
22:14:22 <Mekkis> it wasn't intended
22:18:20 <Brunius> I don't see that as a dig
22:18:42 <Mekkis> A dig would be aiming it at some other people in this channel
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22:19:24 <Mekkis> is it bad that I've memorised all three IPv6 addresses of my laptop?
22:20:04 <Brunius> Not really.
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22:31:59 <Mekkis> hmmm
22:32:03 <Mekkis> need to prep for Sunday
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22:49:24 <Mekkis> hmmm
22:49:33 <Mekkis> Can I fit Rebel's Ransom in a 10-page slip
22:50:50 <Avatar> yes
22:50:53 <Avatar> no
22:50:55 <Avatar> I dunno
22:54:39 <Mekkis> maybe
23:20:51 <Mekkis> looks like it does - just
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23:39:45 <Mekkis> look like pastebay's up again
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