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00:07 <rzv|afk> how intelligent is an animal companion?
00:14 <Steven> usually 1 or 2
00:23 <rzv|afk> how intelligent is a dog?
00:49 <Mekkis> DC20 right?
01:06 <Steven> i think stay is 15, let me go check
01:33 <Steven> Stay (DC 15) The animal stays in place, waiting for you to return. It does not challenge other creatures that come by, though it still defends itself if it needs to.
01:57 <Mekkis> ok
02:20 <Mekkis> remember that you get +4 to handle animal if it's your animal companion
02:21 <Steven> yay! my animal will now stay and not attack people randomly!
02:30 <Steven> didnt know that
02:59 * Mekkis has played a druid. A very famous druid.
03:06 <rzv|afk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE9QuXNgyYg&feature=related
03:36 <Mekkis> his name is known throughout two states!
04:33 <rzv|afk> herolab: complexity is limited
04:44 <rzv|afk> le sigh
04:46 <Steven> well... some of my characters are known in two countries!
04:57 * Steven flexes
06:20 <Mekkis> as in, widely known
06:29 <rzv|afk> son of a
06:36 <rzv|afk> oracle isnt even in this list of classes
07:35 <Mekkis> http://torrentfreak.com/30-of-uk-file-sharers-intend-to-pirate-more-in-the-next-12-months-120503/
08:22 <Mort-> Hm charger didn't seem to work too well
08:40 <rzv|afk> mm ebooks
10:32 <rzv|afk> avengers made >200mill in one weekend
10:35 <rzv|afk> bravo, marvel
10:40 <rzv|afk> now give me more hulk
11:30 <Hydrazine> everyone knows Aquaman's the only cool superhero.
11:53 <rzv|afk> mate
11:57 <rzv|afk> hulk smashin
12:01 * Steven punches hydra in teh tits!
12:03 <Hydrazine> ...Sorry, I trollin'.
12:12 <Hydrazine> Even I can't say Aquaman's cool with a straight face.
14:00 <Hydrazine> Talking to fish just does not put you on the same level as dudes like Spiderman and Batman, bro. Sorry. Go back to hero little league.
14:03 <rzv|afk> this thing doesnt work
14:07 <rzv|afk> damn you herolab
14:26 <Steven> IM AQUAMAN! I CAN SWIM REAL FAST!
15:47 <rzv|afk> ive seen some smash
16:46 <rzv|afk> http://i.imgur.com/HVLV7.png
19:03 <Steven> hey, mekkis
19:08 <Steven> since you good at the druid thing
20:03 <Steven> can my animal companion use an amulet?
20:14 <Steven> i mean wear it and what not
20:25 <rzv|afk> with enough duct tape, anything is possible
20:44 <Mekkis> Steven, yes
20:49 <Mekkis> amulet, yes
20:56 <Mekkis> and I disagree with SKR's decision
21:02 <Mekkis> but abide by it
21:12 <Steven> skr's decision?
21:31 <Mekkis> animals don't have any slots other than neck and face
21:48 <Steven> so barding is no longer allowed?
21:57 <Mekkis> barding's OK
24:43 <Mekkis> For the sake of PFS, animal companions can wear barding and neck-slot items. All other slots aren't really appropriate for animals (or even magical beasts).
25:03 <Mekkis> I strongly disagree with that ruling, but it's a ruling :(
25:18 <Avatar> I strongly agree with it
25:41 <Mekkis> you should be able to buy a belt for an animal
25:51 <Avatar> horses don't wear belts
25:56 <rzv|afk> collar?
26:02 <Mekkis> horselike eidolons can!
26:08 <Avatar> that's what a neck slot is for
26:49 <Mekkis> but it seems that noone can follow in Grolschmir's footsteps
26:58 <Mekkis> (or wingbeats as the case may be)
27:35 <Mekkis> pre-errata heirloom weapon (lance)... (until errata made him take a level of fighter)...
28:10 <Mekkis> muleback cords (until That Ruling, by which time he was of sufficient level to cast Ant Haul)
29:30 <Steven> my pet plans
29:47 <Steven> elesaruas thing till level y
29:52 <Mekkis> and Avatar's in the "Stop having fun" crowd
29:55 <Steven> level 7
30:12 <Steven> then gonna get something cooler
31:02 <Steven> like a monitor lizard
32:22 <Steven> or a spinosaurus
32:53 <Steven> or a tylosaurus
34:22 <Steven> something bad ass!
35:06 <Hydrazine> Badass like Aquaman?
35:17 <Steven> no, bad ass like hulk
36:11 <Hydrazine> Mkay, thats respectable.
36:24 <rzv|afk> http://i.imgur.com/Ck7kW.jpg
36:30 <Steven> Tylosaurus
36:31 <Steven> Starting Statistics
36:31 <Steven> Size Medium; Speed 20 ft., swim 50 ft.; AC +3 natural armor; Attack bite (1d6); Ability Scores Str 10, Dex 17, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 13, Cha 9; Special Qualities low-light vision, scent.
36:31 <Steven> 7th-level Advancement: Size Large; AC +2 natural armor; Attack bite (1d8 plus grab); Ability Scores Str +8, Dex –2, Con +4.
37:03 <rzv|afk> can you skin animal companions to make shoes
37:09 <Hydrazine> What about badass like the real life speed shooters that put level 20 gunslingers to shame?
38:44 <rzv|afk> whats a decent BAB at 11?
39:42 <Mekkis> 6
40:24 <rzv|afk> so that oracle revelation at 11 that gives you 1bab/level is pretty boss
41:22 <Hydrazine> gives you base accuracy like a fighter. yeah.
41:46 <Mort-> Is it lawful to listen to peoples thoughts?
48:38 <rzv|afk> download for mac
48:41 <rzv|afk> >hoot
49:02 <rzv|afk> gimme dat deb
53:09 <Brunius> Depends where
53:22 <Brunius> Andoran would probably be set quite against it
55:22 <Steven> tasty tasty
58:42 <Mort-> The alternative is probably to kick the feck out of the guy in question
59:00 <Mort-> Not that it would be a problem but...
59:10 <rzv|afk> fucking java
59:18 <Mort-> Character in question doesnt like tavern brawls
02:05 <rzv|afk> i wonder if you can melee as an oracle
02:15 <Steven> yes you can
02:30 <Steven> just gotta be careful
02:40 <rzv|afk> wear plate or something
02:53 <rzv|afk> drop dex and go for str 
03:02 <Brunius> However, how would they know?
09:07 <Mort-> True. Excuse me. Need to take a potty break
09:23 <Mort-> Flip on detect thoughts and brb
09:54 <Mort-> Ah wtf. Bring it on! Then leave a whole bunch of passed out people on the floor
10:07 <Mort-> Sigh. Such a stupid way to go though
10:53 <Mekkis> Brunius, Mytiazair has no problme with reading thoughts...
11:25 <Mort-> Which reminds me. Cold iron and silver saps time?
13:58 <Avatar> what do you mean saps time
16:04 <Mort-> Dr issues
17:47 <Mort-> Require non lethal damage to bypass dr
19:35 <Mekkis> L-C Grolschmir wouldn't know
19:39 <Mekkis> he has no spellcraft
19:48 <Avatar> you might need to rephrase your question mort
22:13 <Mort-> Now my lawful character does not like tavern brawls.
22:30 <Mort-> She wants to use detect thoughts to get the information she needs
22:48 <Mort-> also if it comes to a brawl. She hates to kill people
23:12 <Avatar> if the reason you want the information doesn't break the law, it's not less lawful to do so
23:14 <Mort-> So better get dr bypassing non lethal weapons
23:42 <Avatar> it's probably lawful since starting a brawl would cause 'chaos'
24:02 <Avatar> that's not what strictly what lawful means, but it's good enough for this
24:13 <Mort-> No brawls
25:01 <rzv|afk> rapid reload worth taking?
25:21 <Steven> if you using cross bows yeah its pretty useful
25:31 <rzv|afk> was going to take one as an oracle
25:37 <rzv|afk> but not sure what to take
25:50 <rzv|afk> as a first level feat
26:17 <rzv|afk> i mean toughness and spell penetration i can take sure but
27:54 <Steven> the extra revelation feat is pretty good
28:04 <Steven> depending ont he oracle build
28:13 <rzv|afk> i was going dark tapestry
29:13 <Steven> which revelation did you pick?
29:36 <rzv|afk> was going to take insterstellar void to start with
30:19 <rzv|afk> because its at 1d6/level and dont need to hit with anything
31:36 <Steven> with extra revelation you could pick brain drain, gift of madness, touch of the void
32:09 <Steven> for more attacks, and then you could use your spells for buffs
32:20 <Steven> or healing, or situational
32:59 <rzv|afk> yeah i was going to go support with the spells
33:34 <rzv|afk> hmm lame i think
37:17 <Steven> i have an oracle built that is dark tapistry
37:26 <Steven> its a human with darkvision... cause that shits not op at all
37:33 <rzv|afk> lol
37:37 <rzv|afk> which curse?
37:42 <rzv|afk> blind
37:47 <rzv|afk> level i mean*
38:24 <Steven> ide have to go check, i built him and never played him
39:01 <rzv|afk> battle mystery sounds pretty
39:03 <rzv|afk> rapey
39:13 <Steven> it can be yeah
40:52 <Steven> Tongues
42:31 MincedSushi ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
49:53 <Steven> Sam: Steve, how much do you love me?
50:02 <Steven> Me: What do you want?
50:15 <Steven> Sam: For you to tell me how awesome I am.
50:43 <Steven> Me: I am suspicious, but you are pretty awesome.
51:05 <MincedSushi> How loving :D
51:25 <MincedSushi> Hey guys
51:42 <Steven> Sam: Well, in that case I feel I should inform you I just bought you some Pathfinder stuff.
51:46 <Steven> Me: I love you.
52:01 <rzv|afk> o/
52:05 <MincedSushi> \o
52:09 <Steven> also, i got some new pathfinder stuff
52:20 <MincedSushi> What did she get you?
52:27 <MincedSushi> <-- curious
52:55 <Steven> shes sending it to me through email right now
53:01 <Steven> my girlfriend=win
53:23 <MincedSushi> ^^
53:32 <MincedSushi> Lucky~
54:41 <Steven> Blood of fiends and Isles of the Shackles
57:18 <Avatar> sushi
57:23 <MincedSushi> I really need to start picking up more modules
57:27 <Avatar> of the minced type
57:38 <MincedSushi> What levels are those?
59:37 <Steven> they arent modules
08:40 <Mort-> Hello
14:21 <rzv|afk> !throw 20d4
14:21 <diebot> rzv|afk, 20d4: [20d4=3,3,4,4,4,4,2,2,3,1,3,1,2,1,3,2,3,4,4,4] 57
14:28 <Mekkis> hey
17:33 <Brunius> http://chzschooloffail.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/homework-class-test-its-the-solution-to-any-problem.jpg
30:20 <MincedSushi> Really now?
30:27 <MincedSushi> They certainly sound like it xD
30:58 <Steven> sup sup
36:22 <rzv|afk> elven curve blade yes preese
37:12 <Avatar> not steven again
38:55 <Brunius> How's it going steven
44:24 <Steven> Just got back from PFS
44:31 <Steven> I gmed qfp part 2
44:55 <Steven> i could have killed them so many times its not even funny
45:09 <MincedSushi> It is rather nice :D
46:13 <Steven> they failed all but like 4 boat checks
52:44 <Brunius> nice
00:51 <Steven> wonder how annoyed sam will be at me if i go to sleep right now.
03:36 <Avatar> brunius hasn't played it, so avoid spoilers
03:44 <Brunius> I've played part 2
03:49 <Avatar> oh yeah that's right
03:53 <Brunius> Under killer matt
03:59 <Brunius> when you ran away
03:59 <Avatar> lolllllll how could I forget !!
06:33 <Steven> okay!
06:42 <Steven> !rand sleep no-sleep
06:42 <dicebot> Steven, random: sleep
06:47 <Steven> SLEEP IT IS!
07:09 <Steven> sam will join me when she gets home if she decides to and if she doesnt, well no cuddling for her!
15:51 <rzv|afk> this pdf isnt taking into account armour check penalty when i click calculate skills
15:52 <rzv|afk> :<
17:40 <rzv|afk> or maybe its not meant to
18:41 <MincedSushi> Yea... I haven't found a great automated one yet
19:08 <MincedSushi> Make one of the brainy people make one xD
22:20 <Steven> thats because armor check penalty wont always account into those skills
22:37 <MincedSushi> Ah~
23:50 <Steven> i mean like 90% of the tiem it will
24:27 <Steven> and armor check is variable like when you are having your shield out
24:48 <Steven> so its best not to always have that number worked into the skills
26:51 <Steven> wow... the new oracle curses are amazing
26:59 <MincedSushi> Which new ones?
27:09 <MincedSushi> In oyur new toys :D
27:13 <Steven> except if you are playing Organized play, then they are fuckin terrible!
27:19 <MincedSushi> 0_o
27:34 <MincedSushi> Now I'm rediculously curious
28:08 <Steven> Consumed: Your connection to Abaddon and the 
28:08 <Steven> daemons that call it home has left you diminished but 
28:08 <Steven> still able to scorn many mortal frailties. Whenever you 
28:08 <Steven> take lethal hit point damage, you take an additional 
28:08 <Steven> number of points of nonlethal damage equal to 1/2 the 
28:08 <Steven> lethal damage you took. You automatically stabilize when 
28:08 <Steven> brought below 0 hit points. At 5th level, whenever you 
28:08 <Steven> make a saving throw against a disease or poison effect, 
28:08 <Steven> roll twice and use the higher roll as your result. At 10th 
28:08 <Steven> level, you can go without food or water for a number of 
28:08 <Steven> days equal to your oracle level before suffering any ill 
28:08 <Steven> effects due to starvation or thirst. At 15th level, whenever 
28:08 <Steven> a creature within 30 feet takes damage while in combat, 
28:08 <Steven> you automatically gain 1 temporary hit point. You can 
28:08 <Steven> benefit from this ability a number of times per round 
28:08 <Steven> equal to your Charisma modifier, and you can gain a 
28:08 <Steven> total number of temporary hit points in this way equal 
28:08 <Steven> to your oracle level. Temporary hit points gained this way 
28:08 <Steven> disappear after 1 hour.
28:58 <Steven> i could totaly break that in a homebrew
28:58 <MincedSushi> 0_O
29:11 <MincedSushi> How
29:13 <Steven> but in pfs where the level cap is 12
29:15 <MincedSushi> I'm not seeing it
29:20 <MincedSushi> Oh the last one
29:31 <Steven> its absolute garbage
29:44 <Steven> its basically, take 1.5 damage on everything
30:10 <rzv|afk> if a spell is listed as verbal and somatic (divine) it isnt affected by tongues (oracle) right, because its not "language dependent"
30:23 <Steven> can animal companions take Monster feats?
30:25 <rzv|afk> rather, it doesnt matter what language im speaking, so long as im speaking
30:57 <Steven> whenever you have to speak while casting a spell, all you have to do is say the keywords in whatever language you want
31:11 <rzv|afk> cool beans
31:29 <MincedSushi> That's ture
31:38 <MincedSushi> Either way I like this curse
31:46 <MincedSushi> But it's almost not worth it
31:51 <Steven> and 95% of language depenent spells the only reason you might have problems with them is because the person has to be able to understand you to be effected by the spell.
31:57 <Steven> See blistering Invective
32:01 <MincedSushi> Great flavour not much else
32:03 <Steven> btw, decided i couldnt sleep in my bed as i found a spider in it, killed it myself mind you, but my adrenaline went through the roof and now i need to relax a little before im back in sleep mode
33:14 <Steven> the one i really like is the Wrecker Curse
33:26 <Steven> so instead im looking at feats for my animal companion for my druid
33:36 <Steven> Wrecker: The destructive power of the Abyss and its 
33:36 <Steven> teeming hordes of demons seeps from your very pores 
33:36 <Steven> and into your belongings and surroundings. Held objects 
33:36 <Steven> gain the broken condition when you use or equip them 
33:36 <Steven> but regain their actual condition if employed by anyone 
33:36 <Steven> else. If a held item is restored to unbroken condition, 
33:36 <Steven> it becomes broken again the following round. Disable 
33:36 <Steven> Device becomes a class skill for you and you can make 
33:36 <Steven> Disable Device checks to destroy nonmagical traps as 
33:36 <Steven> a move action without the need to use tools or take any 
33:36 <Steven> action beyond simply touching it. At 5th level, whenever 
33:37 <Steven> you attempt to damage an object with a melee attack, 
33:37 <Steven> reduce its hardness by an amount equal to your oracle level 
33:37 <Steven> before determining the damage you deal with that attack. 
33:37 <Steven> At 10th level, any attacks you make against objects and 
33:37 <Steven> constructs automatically bypass any damage reduction 
33:37 <Steven> they may possess except epic. At 15th level, whenever 
33:37 <Steven> you are dealt damage by an attack with a manufactured 
33:37 <Steven> weapon, you can require the weapon’s wielder to make a 
33:37 <Steven> Reflex save (DC 10 + 1/2 your oracle level + your Charisma 
33:37 Steven has quit (Excess flood)
33:46 Steven ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
33:52 <Steven> oh, i disconnected from spamming
34:15 <Steven> Wrecker: The destructive power of the Abyss and its 
34:15 <MincedSushi> lol
34:15 <Steven> teeming hordes of demons seeps from your very pores 
34:15 <Steven> and into your belongings and surroundings. Held objects 
34:15 <Steven> gain the broken condition when you use or equip them 
34:15 <Steven> but regain their actual condition if employed by anyone 
34:15 <Steven> else. If a held item is restored to unbroken condition, 
34:15 <Steven> it becomes broken again the following round. Disable 
34:15 <Steven> Device becomes a class skill for you and you can make 
34:15 <Steven> Disable Device checks to destroy nonmagical traps as 
34:15 <Steven> a move action without the need to use tools or take any 
34:15 <Steven> action beyond simply touching it. At 5th level, whenever 
34:15 <Steven> you attempt to damage an object with a melee attack, 
34:15 <Steven> reduce its hardness by an amount equal to your oracle level 
34:15 <Steven> before determining the damage you deal with that attack.
34:31 <MincedSushi> I really like it!
34:34 <Steven> At 10th level, any attacks you make against objects and 
34:35 <Steven> constructs automatically bypass any damage reduction 
34:35 <Steven> they may possess except epic. At 15th level, whenever 
34:35 <Steven> you are dealt damage by an attack with a manufactured 
34:35 <Steven> weapon, you can require the weapon’s wielder to make a 
34:35 <Steven> Reflex save (DC 10 + 1/2 your oracle level + your Charisma 
34:35 <Steven> modifier) to avoid having the weapon collapse into dust 
34:35 <Steven> immediately after striking you (magical weapons receive 
34:35 <Steven> an additional saving throw against this effect).
35:42 <MincedSushi> How is that terrible for organized?
35:51 <rzv|afk> could i get a slot for a character on the site?
35:55 rzv|afk is now known as rzv
36:13 <Steven> because, bad things happen when things have the broken condition
36:25 <MincedSushi> THis is true
36:46 <MincedSushi> but if you're playing a full caster type
36:49 <MincedSushi> it's not as bad
37:08 <MincedSushi> Such as a life oracle
37:16 <rzv> so i think i finished my oracle
37:32 <Steven> well if you really think about the broken condition
37:38 <MincedSushi> At which point you are similar to an apostle of peace as per 3.5
37:53 <Steven> all you weapon attacks take a -2 and can only crit on a nat 20 at x2
38:09 <Steven> AC bonus is halved, and ACP is doubled
38:21 <Steven> wands use twice the charges
38:34 <rzv> !throw 1d20+4 Attack; 1d10+6 Damage, 18-20 x2
38:34 <diebot> rzv, Attack: [1d20=7] 11; Damage, 18-20 x2: [1d10=2] 8
38:54 <rzv> !throw 1d20+4 Attack; 1d10+6 Damage, 18-20 x2
38:54 <diebot> rzv, Attack: [1d20=6] 10; Damage, 18-20 x2: [1d10=5] 11
39:02 <rzv> yeah so i cant hit shit
39:02 <rzv> great
39:18 <MincedSushi> +4 is all I have on my barb
39:23 <rzv> !throw 1d20+4 Attack; 1d10+6 Damage, 18-20 x2
39:23 <diebot> rzv, Attack: [1d20=19] 23; Damage, 18-20 x2: [1d10=2] 8
39:28 <rzv> yay i hit a thing
39:31 <MincedSushi> ANd I did great on friday
39:31 <rzv> o/
39:32 <Steven> say what? +4 on a barb... you're doing something wrong
39:54 <Steven> 1 BAB +3 str?
39:55 <MincedSushi> 3 from str 1 from bab 
40:19 <rzv> im at +4 from str
40:19 <MincedSushi> and then milti targets give me +1 which I use to power attack
40:21 <Steven> you have the same stats as my gnome barb....
40:57 <rzv> +8 to perception hoot
41:03 <MincedSushi> heh
41:08 <MincedSushi> Nice
41:34 <rzv> !throw 1d20+4 Attack; 1d10+6 Damage, 18-20 x2
41:35 <diebot> rzv, Attack: [1d20=6] 10; Damage, 18-20 x2: [1d10=5] 11
41:55 <rzv> rolling like a quadraplegic as usual
42:08 <MincedSushi> @basic
42:31 <MincedSushi> I'm guessing dicebot doesn't save them past hwen I logout
42:42 <rzv> do you have the same name?
43:05 <rzv> !throw 1d10+6
43:05 <diebot> rzv, 1d10+6: [1d10=1] 7
43:08 <Steven> !throw 1d20+4 Power Attack; 1d8+5 Nodachi
43:08 <diebot> Steven, Power Attack: [1d20=10] 14; Nodachi: [1d8=2] 7
43:10 <MincedSushi> @throw 1d20+4 ; 2d6+7  nonrage
43:20 <MincedSushi> !throw 1d20+4 ; 2d6+7  nonrage
43:20 <diebot> MincedSushi, 1d20+4: [1d20=19] 23; nonrage: [2d6=4,1] 12
43:46 <rzv> !throw 1d20+4 Attack; 1d10+6 Damage
43:47 <diebot> rzv, Attack: [1d20=18] 22; Damage: [1d10=1] 7
44:00 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage; 1d8+8 Nodachi
44:00 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=10] 16; Nodachi: [1d8=1] 9
44:10 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage; 1d8+8 Nodachi
44:11 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=7] 13; Nodachi: [1d8=4] 12
44:14 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage; 1d8+8 Nodachi
44:14 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=14] 20; Nodachi: [1d8=4] 12
44:18 <rzv> !throw 1d20+4 Attack; 1d10+6 Damage
44:19 <diebot> rzv, Attack: [1d20=15] 19; Damage: [1d10=8] 14
44:23 <Steven> meh its not too bad...
44:31 <rzv> is it crit on a natural roll right
44:37 <rzv> it is a*
45:00 <Steven> on what?
45:05 <MincedSushi> !throw 1d20+6 ; 2d6+10 raging
45:05 <diebot> MincedSushi, 1d20+6: [1d20=19] 25; raging: [2d6=2,4] 16
45:17 <rzv> if i roll 17 with +1 bonus on an 18-20 threat weapon
45:19 <rzv> its not a crit is it
45:27 <MincedSushi> Nope
45:35 <Steven> no, you have to roll an 18,19,20
45:36 <MincedSushi> Natrual rolls ^^
45:54 <rzv> yeah i dont know why i was thinking otherwise
45:59 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage
45:59 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=13] 19
46:02 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage
46:02 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=4] 10
46:06 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage
46:06 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=5] 11
46:09 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage
46:09 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=1] 7
46:12 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage
46:12 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=10] 16
46:15 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage
46:15 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=8] 14
46:18 rzv is now known as rzv|bf3
46:20 <Steven> pretty crappy rolls
46:38 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage
46:38 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=15] 21
46:40 <Steven> !throw 1d20+6 PA Rage
46:41 <diebot> Steven, PA Rage: [1d20=7] 13
47:01 <MincedSushi> Same
47:51 <Steven> i need to level up my Gnome Barb
47:52 <MincedSushi> For level one +4 is standard I find
48:43 <MincedSushi> TO get above that you really do have to minmax / be a fighter
50:05 <Steven> yeah my barb is the older brother of another one of my characters
50:19 <Steven> and he always used to beat up Folnor when they were kids
50:47 <MincedSushi> xD
50:52 <MincedSushi> WHich other char?
51:06 <Steven> Ronal is the Barb, Folnor is the Cloistered Cleric
51:42 <MincedSushi> I like it!
52:26 <Steven> Ronal has already taken the Superstition Rage power, and next is the Witch Hunter rae power
52:52 <MincedSushi> I really liked that path
53:01 <MincedSushi> I'm going the dragon totem path
53:04 <rzvlptp> cant take power attack until oracle level 2
53:09 <rzvlptp> bab is 0 :|
53:14 <MincedSushi> :<
53:38 <MincedSushi> rzv, what kind of oracle? Battle?
53:42 <rzvlptp> yeah
53:52 <rzvlptp> need a slot to upload it but its er
54:08 <rzvlptp> 18 str so +4, proficiency in everything and focus in curved swords
54:20 <rzvlptp> two handed so +6 on damage roll i think?
54:25 <MincedSushi> Yes
54:40 <Steven> yup +6 on damage rolls
54:45 <rzvlptp> just trying it out, might change it around a bit
54:50 <rzvlptp> 14 con, 13 cha so
54:58 <rzvlptp> might need some fiddly
55:23 <MincedSushi> I'd try for the 14 cha
55:34 <Steven> the reason i took supersition rage power
55:35 <MincedSushi> But that's just me
55:47 <Steven> is im going to go supersition, witch hunter, Eater of Magic
55:59 <MincedSushi> Eater of magic is almost what made me do it 
57:02 <Steven> its pretty freakin awesome
57:55 <Steven> im takin those 3 and then im going to up my will saves a bit
58:14 <Steven> and try to get it so im hard to hit with spells
58:56 <MincedSushi> That way when you do fail you will most likely succed the second time?
59:50 <Steven> yeah, and when a spell caster sees you eat their magic they just cast on you
00:05 <Steven> they 'should' be less likely to cast on you again
00:26 <Steven> unless their name is bobby, that will probably make them cast more and more magic on you
00:48 <MincedSushi> ANd then you keep eating it?
00:59 <Steven> no, its just once per rage
01:06 <MincedSushi> :<
01:09 <MincedSushi> Damn...
01:39 <MincedSushi> I think the bard ability to remove fatigue is 3.5
01:41 <MincedSushi> let me check
02:19 <MincedSushi> If it isn't then team you up witha  bard and you're good to go
02:49 <Steven> you mean, invigorate?
02:55 <Steven> its still around.
03:13 <MincedSushi> They had a bardic music for it
03:20 <MincedSushi> Epic of the hugh king
03:23 <MincedSushi> and it was 3.5
04:35 <Steven> its just a spell now
04:51 <MincedSushi> What level do you learn it?
05:19 <Steven> its a first level spell
05:27 <MincedSushi> 0_o
05:47 <MincedSushi> that's much better than having to waste a feat
07:05 <MincedSushi> I'd play a bard for you man
07:12 <MincedSushi> I also love bard...
07:33 <Steven> yeah, you need to come to washington and play here at the pullman shop
07:44 <Steven> cause we have a real lack of utility characters
08:13 <MincedSushi> I wish
08:26 <MincedSushi> Care to set up a laptop with webcam and skype?
08:28 <Steven> its partially the fault of us Gms at the shop
08:42 <Steven> We have created some nasty nasty characters
08:48 <MincedSushi> lol
09:41 <Steven> like Ausk(inquisitor), Melissas barbarian, Kits gunslinger, Bobbies Cavalier, and Walters Witch
10:16 <MincedSushi> I know nothing of witches
10:21 <MincedSushi> Are they really that good?
10:24 <Steven> melissa, bobby, walter, and I made a pirate crew.
11:20 <Steven> Walter was the captain at first, but got promoted to admiral when the rest of us bought ships
11:29 <Steven> well... i basically bought a couple ships
11:45 <Steven> and then i became captain, and later admiral Ausk
11:46 <MincedSushi> What'd you name yours?
11:51 <Steven> its not an official tital
11:53 <MincedSushi> lol
11:53 <Steven> title even
11:59 <Steven> but pure flavor
12:05 <MincedSushi> Ah~
12:12 <Steven> I am the Captain of The Shadow Mastiff
12:37 <Steven> which has an actual Shadow Mastiff on board that we rescued during a Mission.
12:48 <MincedSushi> 0_o
12:54 <Steven> poor thing was locked in a room and abused
13:17 <Steven> now it keeps the ship free of rats and mutineers
14:28 <MincedSushi> Screw mutniny they got demons on board?
14:43 <Steven> Its how Ausk rolls
16:08 <Steven> he is an Intimidation Master and general bad ass
16:16 <MincedSushi> I like Ausk more everytime I hear about him ^^
17:06 <Steven> better not let Mort hear you say that, she hates Ausk
17:18 <Steven> Course she doesnt like pirates or anything fun, cause shes a stick in the mud
17:24 <MincedSushi> Meh~ She also hates gnomes
17:30 <MincedSushi> I find themm adorable and delicious
21:57 <MincedSushi> But seriously... Can I virtual prescence your games?
22:05 <MincedSushi> It works better than you think :D
23:50 <Steven> eh..... I dunno man, ill talk to walter about it.
24:37 <MincedSushi> Well what day is it? Most liekly won't even have to bother
24:41 <Steven> I personally wouldnt like to add the layer of complexity
25:58 <MincedSushi> Makes sense
26:49 <Steven> gonna update the PDF of Ausk
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47:33 <Steven> damn this is taking forever
50:44 <rzv|bf3> lizard piss fuck
50:47 <rzv|bf3> stubbed my toe
50:55 <rzv|bf3> then spilt hot tea on foot
51:02 <rzv|bf3> fuck you, world
53:51 <Ballig> Steven: animal companions can't take monster feats unless expressly allowed in an allowed source
53:53 <rzvlptp> if thats what i get from karma for being a pacifist vegetarian
54:03 <rzvlptp> from here on out im shooting up schools and eating kittens
54:24 <Steven> im rather a fan of eating pussy...
54:28 <Steven> ...
54:29 <rzvlptp> o/
54:30 <Steven> ...
54:32 <Steven> ...
54:34 <Steven> yeah i meant it
56:29 <Steven> hmmmmmmm 4th level inquisitor spell....
58:56 <rzvlptp> is it a laser
59:11 <Steven> im thinking spell immunity...
59:37 <rzvlptp> what like absorbs spells of x level and lower or?
59:39 <rzvlptp> just
59:43 <rzvlptp> nope to spells
00:08 <Steven> just complete immunity to a specified spell
00:36 <Steven> i would basically pick 3 spells and i would be immune to them.
00:52 <Steven> or, whatever i touch
01:42 <Steven> like walk up to a BBEG and pick stoneskin, haste, and.... whatever
01:49 <Steven> and if he cast those on himself, they auto fail.
03:33 <Steven> or if you are going up against something called Magus McSparky sword, put Shocking grasp, lightning bolt, and whatever else on you
03:45 <Steven> and youve effectively cut out half a magus's nastiest spells
03:45 <MincedSushi> lol
04:12 <rzvlptp> does disjunction break it or can you pick that as a spell
04:14 <MincedSushi> How long does the spell last?
04:30 <rzvlptp> "how long is your op?"
05:23 <MincedSushi> not really op... but if you find your dm favours spells
06:04 <MincedSushi> certain*
07:15 <Steven> 10 minutes per level
08:01 <MincedSushi> so about 2 hours by then?
08:15 <Steven> well... 110 minutes when you can first cast it
08:22 <MincedSushi> I forget how inqs spell casting goes
08:40 <MincedSushi> rather nice actually
08:48 <Steven> its like clerics, only spell availablity is 1level/3caster levels
09:02 <MincedSushi> Going for a secret meeting? choose scry, zone of truth, etc
09:31 <MincedSushi> What's it called?
10:26 <Steven> Ausk really only has to worry about spells that target reflex
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10:44 <Steven> his saves are 14/9/14
11:41 <Steven> wish i could spellstore a Fleshworm Infestation
11:45 <Steven> god... that would be amazing
12:22 <rzvlptp> right well time to take a look at alchemist 
12:23 <MincedSushi> That sounds nasty...
13:30 <rzvlptp> oo witch
13:33 <rzvlptp> sounds kinky
13:43 <rzvlptp> the witch in 4e is crap
13:53 <rzvlptp> its like they forgot to give the class a mechanic
17:38 <Steven> alright, im all leveled up
17:44 <Steven> wheres mort, i need to check out my new roll.
17:46 <rzvlptp> levelled up?
18:24 <Steven> yeah, i went with Divine Power
18:32 <Steven> and as soon as bobby gets me my character sheet
18:36 <Steven> I get to level up again
18:44 <Steven> character sheet=chronical sheet
18:53 <Steven> then i will officially be 13
20:37 <Steven> guess ill just have to use it on you guys
21:05 <Steven> so how close are you guys to me?
21:08 <Steven> huh huh?
21:15 <rzvlptp> i am level 1
21:20 <rzvlptp> come at me, i got robes and shit
21:31 Steven is now known as Ausk
21:40 * Ausk Casts a spell!
21:43 <Ausk> spell craft?
21:49 * rzvlptp has robes and shit.
22:11 <rzvlptp> !throw 1d20+0
22:11 <diebot> rzvlptp, 1d20+0: [1d20=5] 5
22:15 <rzvlptp> winning
22:20 <Ausk> you are unable to identify the spell
22:39 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+40 Intimidation Check; 1d10 Fire Damage
22:40 <diebot> Ausk, Intimidation Check: [1d20=10] 50; Fire Damage: [1d10=10] 10
23:11 <Ausk> Please make a Reflex DC15 to avoid catching on fire.
23:24 <rzvlptp> !throw 1d20+2
23:25 <diebot> rzvlptp, 1d20+2: [1d20=19] 21
23:29 <Ausk> and remember, thats at a -2 modifer due to being shaken
23:35 <rzvlptp> 19
23:42 <Ausk> you succeed and dont catch on fire
23:50 <Ausk> but you still take 10 points of fire damage
23:53 <rzvlptp> you know the thing i most want to be
23:55 <rzvlptp> is not on fire
24:20 <rzvlptp> perhaps you wish to be an astronaut
24:24 <rzvlptp> i wish to not be on fire
24:40 <Ausk> sushi... you wanna make a relfex save?
25:05 <rzvlptp> witch looks pretty cool
25:29 <Ausk> witch is very cool, but its a pain in the ass in IRC games
25:37 <rzvlptp> whys that?
25:38 <Ausk> because the GM has to roll twice all the time
25:46 <rzvlptp> for?
25:52 <Ausk> Misfortune
26:03 <rzvlptp> ah yeah i see
26:05 <rzvlptp> just got to that
26:40 <rzvlptp> mm
27:34 <rzv|bf3> can manipulate her hair as if it were a limb with a Strength score equal to her Intelligence score
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28:49 <Ausk> be aware its done as a secondary attack if you have a manufactured weapon in hand
29:55 <rzv|bf3> Cook People (Su):
29:59 <rzv|bf3> i need to play a witch
30:04 <rzv|bf3> if only so i can do this
30:09 <Ausk> you cant
30:23 <rzv|bf3> whys that
31:06 <rzv|bf3> youre ruining my dreams steven
32:01 <Ausk> the witches cauldren is not legal for play
32:23 <rzv|bf3> huh its on the site
32:26 <rzv|bf3> not 3rd party
33:27 <MincedSushi>   http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/additionalResources
33:34 <rzv|bf3> stubbed my toe again
33:35 <MincedSushi> They sometimes bar things form official books
33:36 <rzv|bf3> what is this
33:39 <MincedSushi> lol
33:45 <MincedSushi> The worlds assult on your feet
33:55 <Ausk> dude, seriously put on some shoes
34:23 <rzv|bf3> you are a man of science
34:26 <rzv|bf3> i will do this
35:01 <Ausk> SUSHI!
35:17 <Ausk> make a reflex save
36:48 <Ausk> ah, i guess you can cook people
36:57 <Ausk> but i think most people would see that as a boarderline evil act
37:18 <rzv|bf3> waste not want not
37:34 <rzv|bf3> for the greater good right
37:42 <MincedSushi> !throw 1d20+3 reflex
37:43 <diebot> MincedSushi, reflex: [1d20=4] 7
37:48 <MincedSushi> I die
37:50 <Ausk> oh mans!
37:53 <Ausk> you catch on fire
37:57 <Ausk> !throw 1d6
37:58 <diebot> Ausk, 1d6: [1d6=1] 1
38:04 <Ausk> you take a total of 11 damage
38:05 <MincedSushi> Oh god this is so much worse than not being on fire!!
38:12 <rzv|bf3> see
38:14 <rzv|bf3> the thing you want
38:17 <rzv|bf3> is to not be on fire
38:46 <Ausk> full round action to put yourself out
39:07 * MincedSushi does the dance of his people
41:36 <Ausk> okay, make another reflex save
41:44 <MincedSushi> !throw 1d20+3 reflex
41:45 <diebot> MincedSushi, reflex: [1d20=4] 7
41:55 <Ausk> !throw 1d6
41:56 <diebot> Ausk, 1d6: [1d6=5] 5
42:04 <MincedSushi> Oh god this is so much worse than not being on fire, again!!
42:21 * Ausk creates water all over sushi and puts him out
42:31 <MincedSushi> <3
42:36 <MincedSushi> I forgive you for killing me
42:41 <MincedSushi> You monster
44:13 <Ausk> its kinda what i do
44:19 Ausk is now known as Steven
44:22 <rzv|bf3> time to dump charisma!
44:27 <MincedSushi> lol
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03:52 <Steven> im bored out of my mind....
03:56 <rzv|bf3> ^
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25:37 <Steven> hmmmmmm
25:58 <Steven> 15471gold...
26:02 <Steven> what to buy what to buy
27:46 <Steven> belt of physical Perfection?
27:50 <Steven> seems pretty legit
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21:47 <Mort-> How much is a wand of holy sword curious
22:41 <Mort-> 30k gp omfg :p
23:55 <Mort-> Wow 1 kgp per use for trying to pretend I'm a pally
23:57 <Mort-> ><
38:19 <Brunius> You'd need to UMD it too
38:27 <Brunius> It's an awesome spell though
38:48 <Brunius> Incidentally, a wand has 50 charges
39:04 <Brunius> So it's less than 1kgp per use if the 30k gp figure is correct
39:44 <Mort-> So expensive
40:00 <Mort-> Don't worry I'm a umd champ :d
40:03 <Mort-> Well pretty much
47:26 <Brunius> !rand August Septmber October November December
47:27 <dicebot> Brunius, random: October
48:03 <Brunius> Night guys
23:31 <rzv|bf3> walked into a door
23:35 <rzv|bf3> face is killing me
26:54 <Avatar> done that before
26:57 <Avatar> it's not fun
28:04 <Avatar> jaggedsoul apparently hasn't been on due to medical issues and has assured me he will be back
37:23 <Mekkis> Mort-, Grolschmir's looking at buying one
39:15 <Mort-> Poor jagged :(
39:27 <Mort-> No money la
39:43 <Mort-> Just trying to see how to pretend you are a pally part 2
39:59 <Mort-> Won't be around on sat though
40:22 <Mort-> Family insists that i have to show up for some function blah blah blah
40:58 <Mort-> Mekkis did you ever find any use for tangle foot bags?
41:04 <Mort-> I feel like getting some
41:14 <Mort-> And possibly a scroll of magic weapon
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17:47 <Mort-> Morning everyone
25:06 <rzvlptp> evening
45:51 <Mort-> Won't be around next sat
45:59 <Mort-> Have fun guys :p
46:08 <Mort-> Family stuff
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51:06 <rzvlptp> ah the good family stuff i hope
51:19 <rzvlptp> i just pulled a white hair out the side of my head
51:24 <rzvlptp> it has begun
51:27 <rzvlptp> dun dun dun
52:52 <Mort-> Something id rather not attend but you know how the family goes
53:13 <rzvlptp> i gave up attending family stuff years ago
53:24 <Mort-> If i don't show up ill just get nagged
53:25 <rzvlptp> weddings and funerals only now
53:31 <Mort-> And i show up to get bored
53:40 <Mort-> But that's the way the world is
53:40 <rzvlptp> i remember 
53:48 <rzvlptp> going to a wedding reception
53:52 <rzvlptp> fell asleep
53:53 <Mort-> They want me to attend a whatever talk
54:19 <Mort-> Whatever. Ill humor them.
54:20 <Mort-> Net working so they said
54:38 * Mort- has a resigned droop of her tail
54:39 <rzvlptp> networking is done with cat5e cables!
54:57 <Mort-> You know what i mean. Meeting the right people.
55:03 <Mort-> Connections.
55:24 <rzvlptp> shit reminds me, need to email a guy saying i cant come to his stag because its on my mums birthday
55:28 <Mort-> They think some one down there might be able to get me a perm job
55:56 <rzvlptp> jobs are nice but never permanent
55:59 <Mort-> So I'm supposed to go to this function and meet this sermon
56:03 <Mort-> Person. I'm on contract atm
56:05 <Mort-> Its 2-5 in the afternoon
56:20 <rzvlptp> im leaving my job in a week
56:24 <Mort-> So saying avatar starts at 11 am my time
56:26 <rzvlptp> but im taking my leave
56:38 <Mort-> There is no way we will finish by 2
56:39 <rzvlptp> so im on holiday until i finish lol
56:42 <Mort-> So i can't do that
56:50 <Mort-> Check your pms
56:53 <rzvlptp> oh youre in the US?
56:57 <Mort-> Nothing wrong in having a party
57:00 <Mort-> No
57:02 <Mort-> Sg
57:10 <Mort-> While you're looking for a new job
57:40 <Mort-> I won't join a game just to have to leave half way
57:50 <rzvlptp> fair enough
58:01 <Mort-> But yes. That's the long story short
58:12 <Mort-> Depressing isn't it?
58:34 <Mort-> Oh they also want me to join religious classes
58:40 <rzvlptp> mm family is family :<
58:40 <Mort-> Ill pass on that.
58:48 <rzvlptp> what religion if you dont mind me asking
58:58 <Mort-> Buddhism
59:16 <rzvlptp> fair enough
59:16 <Mort-> My opinion is that god or whatever you choose to worship is in your heart
59:19 <rzvlptp> hindu here
59:22 <Mort-> Oh
59:38 <Mort-> You should know better what you should/should not do
59:51 <Mort-> Evil done in the name of good is still evil.
00:00 <Mort-> Are you us?
00:08 <rzvlptp> im more of the opinion though that evil doesnt exist
00:19 <Mort-> There are things you shouldn't do
00:23 <rzvlptp> more ignorance
00:32 <Mort-> Taking cookies from this lemur here is one of them
00:46 <Mort-> I'm sorry but i don't believe that statement is true
00:58 <rzvlptp> np
01:04 <rzvlptp> its an opinon
01:06 <Mort-> Some people know that they are doing evil. And heck they like it
01:07 <rzvlptp> ion*
01:32 <Mort-> They do it because it gives them benefits/makes them feel good about themselves
01:52 <rzvlptp> define evil then
02:41 <Mort-> When you hurt people or cause people harm
02:52 <rzvlptp> but thats harm
03:01 <Mort-> Doing so is evil
03:02 <rzvlptp> i could slap a baby on the back to make it burp
03:10 <rzvlptp> causes harm, but its for good, surely?
03:18 <Mort-> I'm talking about some nutcases
03:31 <Mort-> Who take out their machine guns and shoot everyone in sight
03:39 <Mort-> They feel damn good about it
03:41 <rzvlptp> sure, theyre nutjobs
03:54 <rzvlptp> but then they're not normal
03:58 <Mort-> They are evil
04:15 <rzvlptp> well you still havent defined evil
04:19 <rzvlptp> theyre causing harm sure
04:23 <rzvlptp> but all harm isnt evil
04:26 <Mort-> When you do an act
04:41 <Mort-> To hurt people or cause them harm
04:56 <Mort-> That would be my definition
05:10 <rzvlptp> so when a hunter kills an animal, is that evil?
05:19 <Mort-> No.
05:23 <rzvlptp> no?
05:31 <Mort-> I agree to all harm isn't evil
05:41 <rzvlptp> he's causing harm/death for the thrill of the hunt
05:44 <Mort-> Well you see there is a whole story
05:57 <Mort-> What happens if his family is starving
06:05 <Mort-> He needs to bring home meat
06:14 <rzvlptp> he could farm
06:18 <Mort-> I can't really say he is evil.
06:29 <Mort-> That place may be unsuitable for farming
06:35 <Mort-> You vegetarian? :p
06:47 <rzvlptp> yeah, but not cos i care about animals
07:08 <Mort-> Besides farming takes time
07:09 <Mort-> Might not have enough time
07:14 <rzvlptp> true
07:33 <rzvlptp> but if people die, so what? 
08:22 <Mort-> So you think its right to get a machine gun and shoot all your neighbours because they aren't the same skin colour as you?
08:31 <rzvlptp> nope
08:53 <rzvlptp> see that you would consider evil, right
08:58 <rzvlptp> because its morally reprehensible
09:24 <Mort-> Uh that's a big word but i can sort of grasp at the meaning
09:51 <rzvlptp> if you then define evil to be a morally reprehensible act
09:57 <Mort-> Point is these people know what they are doing. They are not ignorant.
10:01 <rzvlptp> ie, immoral act to cause harm
10:11 <Mort-> Oooh
10:14 <Mort-> But whose morals
10:20 <rzvlptp> then consider that morality is fluid
10:34 <rzvlptp> and therefore you cant define evil that way
10:51 * Mort- puzzles
10:56 <rzvlptp> so evil is just a label for a set of actions we civilised folk disagree with
11:12 <Mort-> Well i would judge everyone by my morals. But doesn't everyone do that,
11:29 <rzvlptp> consider that the person committing the evil doesnt think/know he's doing evil
11:59 <Mort-> I don't believe they don't know. They know it. They place their own satisfaction over others
12:02 <rzvlptp> or he's lacking some meme or value that would prevent him from doing it
12:22 <Mort-> Try to convince one of those nutjobs what they did is wrong
12:27 <Mort-> Tell me when you're done
12:28 <rzvlptp> but say we have an axe murderer who believes its ok to kill people for the thrill of it
12:45 <Mort-> There are many :(
13:05 <rzvlptp> he lacks the thing that would stop him from killing for fun
13:11 <rzvlptp> so he's ignorant
13:37 <Mort-> He cant have grown up without knowing the act is wrong
13:40 <Mort-> They all know
13:50 <rzvlptp> kids can grow up killing small animals
13:55 <rzvlptp> they dont know its wrong
14:01 <Mort-> I suppose they don't have the emotional motivation
14:06 <rzvlptp> they just know its not accepted by society
14:11 <Mort-> They would know by law it is wrong
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14:20 <rzvlptp> well, being gay was against the law
14:24 <rzvlptp> for quite some time
14:37 <Mort-> I don't really care personally
15:02 <Mort-> Id say these people know by law what they are doing is wrong
15:19 <rzvlptp> western law at least is based on judeochristian values
15:25 <DarkDaemon> ...what did I miss.
15:38 <rzvlptp> oh er
15:42 <Mort-> But agree they don't have the emotional motivation to stop them from commiting those cats
15:43 <rzvlptp> mort doesnt hate gay people
15:46 <Mort-> Acts
16:03 <Mort-> Talking philosophy about evil
16:28 <Mort-> I'm saying some people are evil because they like it.
16:28 <rzvlptp> not having knowledge (in this case your emotional motivation) is ignorance
16:31 <rzvlptp> not knowing a thing
16:46 <rzvlptp> im saying evil doesnt exist, ignorance does
16:47 <Mort-> He's saying that people are evil only because of ignorance
16:51 <rzvlptp> nono
17:00 <rzvlptp> im saying evil is a fabrication
17:07 <Mort-> Hm
17:10 <rzvlptp> a construct that allows an "us and them" system
17:27 <rzvlptp> in the same way some african tribes dont have a word for human, just "us" and "outsider"
17:45 <rzvlptp> the concept of evil allows you to partition a population based on a morality that isnt universal
17:48 <DarkDaemon> ...why is evil a fabrication?
17:56 <rzvlptp> define evil
17:57 <Mort-> I can't disagree about the emotional motivation lacking in being ignorance of a sort
18:37 <DarkDaemon> Evil, in very broad terms, is hurting people.
18:52 <rzvlptp> harm is evil?
19:26 * Mort- sits on her haunches and waits
19:45 <rzv|bf3> deja vu!
20:08 <rzv|bf3> evil doesnt really have a definition, imo
20:09 * Mort- tail taps a little
20:18 <rzv|bf3> or at least ive never been offered a good one
20:21 <DarkDaemon> Sorry, I did this the wrong way. It's usually better to define with specifics.
20:37 <DarkDaemon> So, evil: breaking into a house, killing the adults, then raping the children to death.
20:50 <DarkDaemon> I think that rather nicely showcases an evil act.
20:52 <rzv|bf3> so a morally reprehensible act is evil
21:28 <DarkDaemon> Are we going on why evil is subjective?
21:33 <DarkDaemon> Because, yes, it is.
21:50 <rzv|bf3> well im trying to say what is considered evil is just whats not morally acceptable
21:53 <rzv|bf3> and morality is fluid
21:56 <DarkDaemon> ...yes?
22:02 <rzv|bf3> so why bother calling it evil
22:13 <rzv|bf3> when what you really mean is that guy thinks differently
22:26 <DarkDaemon> Because morally reprehensible is 9 syllables, and evil is 2.
22:44 <rzv|bf3> people do terrible things because theyre a little funny in the head
22:45 <DarkDaemon> And there's different categories of "thinks differently"
22:50 <DarkDaemon> No.
23:00 <rzv|bf3> no?
23:03 <DarkDaemon> People do different things because everyone is funny in the head.
23:16 <rzv|bf3> i said terrible not different
23:27 <rzv|bf3> wait did i
23:28 <rzv|bf3> yes
24:05 <DarkDaemon> What I'm saying is that evil is, yes, a shorthand for "is acting/doing/etc strongly against my/our moral code"
25:01 <DarkDaemon> But that's distinctly different from "is different", unless "different" happens to fall under "evil" in that moral system
25:50 <rzv|bf3> the point i was trying to make originally is that evil isnt a thing
26:05 <DarkDaemon> It's not a physical thing, no, but it exists.
26:09 <DarkDaemon> Much like physics.
26:29 <rzv|bf3> exists how?
26:31 <DarkDaemon> Exists primarily in the headspace.
27:34 <rzv|bf3> you just said evil was shorthand for a concept
28:13 <DarkDaemon> And? Concepts exist. Not physically, but in the heads of people.
29:56 <DarkDaemon> You can still measure them, they affect how people act.
30:37 <rzv|bf3> i dont get your point, youre saying concepts exist?
30:47 <rzv|bf3> i agree
30:49 <rzv|bf3> but
31:06 <rzv|bf3> evil is a terrible shorthand
31:19 <rzv|bf3> for "that guy has a different morality to me"
31:30 <rzv|bf3> and i dont think it translates the concept at all
31:43 <rzv|bf3> which is why i said its a terrible construct
31:43 <DarkDaemon> How so? It's very usefull for getting people riled up about getting rid of the evil.
31:48 <rzv|bf3> yeah
31:52 <rzv|bf3> so its terrible
32:02 <rzv|bf3> people need much less riling up
32:58 <DarkDaemon> Ah. Well, I think we disagree there. There are times people need to be riled up.
33:38 <Mort-> It cuts both ways. On whose definition are you getting riled up over?
33:43 <rzv|bf3> people are far more likely to get riled up and do a bad thing
33:43 <Mort-> Mine? Yours?
33:57 <rzv|bf3> especially where religion is involved, imo
34:26 <rzv|bf3> and religion seems to have this monopoly on morality and therefore 'evil'
34:57 <Mort-> My definition of evil is anyone taking my cookies is evil. But no one saw that the cookies weren't mine in the first place and the person was just taking back the cookies i stole from him? :p
35:02 <DarkDaemon> Well, that's a more important distinction. What gets labeled as evil.
38:25 <rzv|bf3> run out of fucking tea dsaiojiasjdios
38:40 <rzv|bf3> and i went shopping yesterday
38:45 <rzv|bf3> today is not a good day
40:31 <rzv|bf3> pathfinder society goes up to level 15 right
41:11 <rzv|bf3> because this here shapechange dragon is 16
43:12 <Mort-> 12
43:25 <Mort-> Atm
43:30 <Mort-> Anyway off to work
43:43 <Mort-> In some other land i could be a dragon in truth
43:48 <Mort-> Working on it :p
44:14 <Mort-> And yes I'm a notorious cookie thief
44:31 * Mort- steals cookies from dark daemon
44:54 * Mort- also steals cookies from rsv
45:14 <rzv|bf3> my cookies are made of curry and spice
45:57 <DarkDaemon> Enjoy my cookies.
48:06 * Mort- isn't sure she likes curry and spice cookies :(
49:57 <rzvlptp> theyre really good 
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26:03 <Mekkis> make a character like http://magiccards.info/po2/en/147.html
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47:32 <Mort-> That was fun though mekkis
47:44 <Mort-> Nom nom nom :p
57:50 <rzv|bf3> according to a friend
58:13 <rzv|bf3> i am a horrible person
58:18 <rzv|bf3> i called his dog ugly
58:20 <rzv|bf3> its a pug
11:42 <Mort-> Lol depends on perspective
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48:53 * Mort- eats the curry and spice cookies and gives out a gout of fire
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02:46 <Brunius> Yay for throwing up at 1am
06:49 <Mekkis> so you're not schooling today?
13:54 <Brunius> Nope
14:05 <Brunius> I don't particularly feel like throwing up at school
31:31 <Avatar> why not
49:27 <Mort-> Get well soon bru
49:47 <Mort-> Woke up at 5 am on weekend diahorrea
50:39 <Brunius> because people get annoyed when the former contents of your stomach isn't in your stomach
08:19 <Mort-> Hm charger didn't seem to work too well
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41:43 <Mort-> Is it lawful to listen to peoples thoughts?
53:06 <Brunius> Depends where
53:19 <Brunius> Andoran would probably be set quite against it
58:39 <Mort-> The alternative is probably to kick the feck out of the guy in question
58:58 <Mort-> Not that it would be a problem but...
59:15 <Mort-> Character in question doesnt like tavern brawls
02:59 <Brunius> However, how would they know?
09:04 <Mort-> True. Excuse me. Need to take a potty break
09:20 <Mort-> Flip on detect thoughts and brb
09:51 <Mort-> Ah wtf. Bring it on! Then leave a whole bunch of passed out people on the floor
10:04 <Mort-> Sigh. Such a stupid way to go though
10:50 <Mekkis> Brunius, Mytiazair has no problme with reading thoughts...
11:22 <Mort-> Which reminds me. Cold iron and silver saps time?
13:55 <Avatar> what do you mean saps time
16:01 <Mort-> Dr issues
17:45 <Mort-> Require non lethal damage to bypass dr
19:32 <Mekkis> L-C Grolschmir wouldn't know
19:35 <Mekkis> he has no spellcraft
19:45 <Avatar> you might need to rephrase your question mort
22:10 <Mort-> Now my lawful character does not like tavern brawls.
22:27 <Mort-> She wants to use detect thoughts to get the information she needs
22:45 <Mort-> also if it comes to a brawl. She hates to kill people
23:09 <Avatar> if the reason you want the information doesn't break the law, it's not less lawful to do so
23:11 <Mort-> So better get dr bypassing non lethal weapons
23:40 <Avatar> it's probably lawful since starting a brawl would cause 'chaos'
23:59 <Avatar> that's not what strictly what lawful means, but it's good enough for this
24:10 <Mort-> No brawls
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51:22 <MincedSushi> Hey guys
57:15 <Avatar> sushi
57:24 <Avatar> of the minced type
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08:37 <Mort-> Hello
14:25 <Mekkis> hey
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17:30 <Brunius> http://chzschooloffail.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/homework-class-test-its-the-solution-to-any-problem.jpg
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30:55 <Steven> sup sup
37:10 <Avatar> not steven again
38:53 <Brunius> How's it going steven
44:21 <Steven> Just got back from PFS
44:28 <Steven> I gmed qfp part 2
44:52 <Steven> i could have killed them so many times its not even funny
46:10 <Steven> they failed all but like 4 boat checks
52:41 <Brunius> nice
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00:48 <Steven> wonder how annoyed sam will be at me if i go to sleep right now.
03:33 <Avatar> brunius hasn't played it, so avoid spoilers
03:41 <Brunius> I've played part 2
03:46 <Avatar> oh yeah that's right
03:50 <Brunius> Under killer matt
03:56 <Brunius> when you ran away
03:57 <Avatar> lolllllll how could I forget !!
06:30 <Steven> okay!
06:39 <Steven> !rand sleep no-sleep
06:39 <dicebot> Steven, random: sleep
06:44 <Steven> SLEEP IT IS!
07:06 <Steven> sam will join me when she gets home if she decides to and if she doesnt, well no cuddling for her!
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21:58 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 1pm (Avatar, new game) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site!! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
21:58 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun May 13 21:36:17 2012
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53:49 <Ballig> Steven: animal companions can't take monster feats unless expressly allowed in an allowed source
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09:01 <rzvlptp> because its morally reprehensible
09:26 <Mort-> Uh that's a big word but i can sort of grasp at the meaning
09:54 <rzvlptp> if you then define evil to be a morally reprehensible act
10:00 <Mort-> Point is these people know what they are doing. They are not ignorant.
10:04 <rzvlptp> ie, immoral act to cause harm
10:14 <Mort-> Oooh
10:17 <Mort-> But whose morals
10:23 <rzvlptp> then consider that morality is fluid
10:36 <rzvlptp> and therefore you cant define evil that way
10:54 * Mort- puzzles
10:59 <rzvlptp> so evil is just a label for a set of actions we civilised folk disagree with
11:15 <Mort-> Well i would judge everyone by my morals. But doesn't everyone do that,
11:32 <rzvlptp> consider that the person committing the evil doesnt think/know he's doing evil
12:02 <Mort-> I don't believe they don't know. They know it. They place their own satisfaction over others
12:04 <rzvlptp> or he's lacking some meme or value that would prevent him from doing it
12:25 <Mort-> Try to convince one of those nutjobs what they did is wrong
12:30 <Mort-> Tell me when you're done
12:31 <rzvlptp> but say we have an axe murderer who believes its ok to kill people for the thrill of it
12:48 <Mort-> There are many :(
13:07 <rzvlptp> he lacks the thing that would stop him from killing for fun
13:14 <rzvlptp> so he's ignorant
13:40 <Mort-> He cant have grown up without knowing the act is wrong
13:43 <Mort-> They all know
13:52 <rzvlptp> kids can grow up killing small animals
13:58 <rzvlptp> they dont know its wrong
14:04 <Mort-> I suppose they don't have the emotional motivation
14:08 <rzvlptp> they just know its not accepted by society
14:14 <Mort-> They would know by law it is wrong
14:23 <rzvlptp> well, being gay was against the law
14:27 <rzvlptp> for quite some time
14:40 <Mort-> I don't really care personally
15:05 <Mort-> Id say these people know by law what they are doing is wrong
15:22 <rzvlptp> western law at least is based on judeochristian values
15:28 <DarkDaemon> ...what did I miss.
15:41 <rzvlptp> oh er
15:45 <Mort-> But agree they don't have the emotional motivation to stop them from commiting those cats
15:46 <rzvlptp> mort doesnt hate gay people
15:48 <Mort-> Acts
16:06 <Mort-> Talking philosophy about evil
16:31 <Mort-> I'm saying some people are evil because they like it.
16:31 <rzvlptp> not having knowledge (in this case your emotional motivation) is ignorance
16:34 <rzvlptp> not knowing a thing
16:49 <rzvlptp> im saying evil doesnt exist, ignorance does
16:49 <Mort-> He's saying that people are evil only because of ignorance
16:54 <rzvlptp> nono
17:03 <rzvlptp> im saying evil is a fabrication
17:10 <Mort-> Hm
17:13 <rzvlptp> a construct that allows an "us and them" system
17:30 <rzvlptp> in the same way some african tribes dont have a word for human, just "us" and "outsider"
17:48 <rzvlptp> the concept of evil allows you to partition a population based on a morality that isnt universal
17:51 <DarkDaemon> ...why is evil a fabrication?
17:59 <rzvlptp> define evil
18:00 <Mort-> I can't disagree about the emotional motivation lacking in being ignorance of a sort
18:40 <DarkDaemon> Evil, in very broad terms, is hurting people.
18:55 <rzvlptp> harm is evil?
19:29 * Mort- sits on her haunches and waits
19:48 <rzv|bf3> deja vu!
20:11 <rzv|bf3> evil doesnt really have a definition, imo
20:12 * Mort- tail taps a little
20:21 <rzv|bf3> or at least ive never been offered a good one
20:24 <DarkDaemon> Sorry, I did this the wrong way. It's usually better to define with specifics.
20:40 <DarkDaemon> So, evil: breaking into a house, killing the adults, then raping the children to death.
20:53 <DarkDaemon> I think that rather nicely showcases an evil act.
20:55 <rzv|bf3> so a morally reprehensible act is evil
21:31 <DarkDaemon> Are we going on why evil is subjective?
21:35 <DarkDaemon> Because, yes, it is.
21:53 <rzv|bf3> well im trying to say what is considered evil is just whats not morally acceptable
21:56 <rzv|bf3> and morality is fluid
21:59 <DarkDaemon> ...yes?
22:04 <rzv|bf3> so why bother calling it evil
22:16 <rzv|bf3> when what you really mean is that guy thinks differently
22:29 <DarkDaemon> Because morally reprehensible is 9 syllables, and evil is 2.
22:47 <rzv|bf3> people do terrible things because theyre a little funny in the head
22:48 <DarkDaemon> And there's different categories of "thinks differently"
22:53 <DarkDaemon> No.
23:03 <rzv|bf3> no?
23:06 <DarkDaemon> People do different things because everyone is funny in the head.
23:19 <rzv|bf3> i said terrible not different
23:30 <rzv|bf3> wait did i
23:31 <rzv|bf3> yes
24:08 <DarkDaemon> What I'm saying is that evil is, yes, a shorthand for "is acting/doing/etc strongly against my/our moral code"
25:04 <DarkDaemon> But that's distinctly different from "is different", unless "different" happens to fall under "evil" in that moral system
25:52 <rzv|bf3> the point i was trying to make originally is that evil isnt a thing
26:08 <DarkDaemon> It's not a physical thing, no, but it exists.
26:11 <DarkDaemon> Much like physics.
26:32 <rzv|bf3> exists how?
26:34 <DarkDaemon> Exists primarily in the headspace.
27:37 <rzv|bf3> you just said evil was shorthand for a concept
28:16 <DarkDaemon> And? Concepts exist. Not physically, but in the heads of people.
29:59 <DarkDaemon> You can still measure them, they affect how people act.
30:40 <rzv|bf3> i dont get your point, youre saying concepts exist?
30:50 <rzv|bf3> i agree
30:52 <rzv|bf3> but
31:09 <rzv|bf3> evil is a terrible shorthand
31:22 <rzv|bf3> for "that guy has a different morality to me"
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31:33 <rzv|bf3> and i dont think it translates the concept at all
31:45 <rzv|bf3> which is why i said its a terrible construct
31:46 <DarkDaemon> How so? It's very usefull for getting people riled up about getting rid of the evil.
31:50 <rzv|bf3> yeah
31:54 <rzv|bf3> so its terrible
32:05 <rzv|bf3> people need much less riling up
33:01 <DarkDaemon> Ah. Well, I think we disagree there. There are times people need to be riled up.
33:41 <Mort-> It cuts both ways. On whose definition are you getting riled up over?
33:46 <rzv|bf3> people are far more likely to get riled up and do a bad thing
33:46 <Mort-> Mine? Yours?
34:00 <rzv|bf3> especially where religion is involved, imo
34:29 <rzv|bf3> and religion seems to have this monopoly on morality and therefore 'evil'
35:00 <Mort-> My definition of evil is anyone taking my cookies is evil. But no one saw that the cookies weren't mine in the first place and the person was just taking back the cookies i stole from him? :p
35:05 <DarkDaemon> Well, that's a more important distinction. What gets labeled as evil.
38:28 <rzv|bf3> run out of fucking tea dsaiojiasjdios
38:43 <rzv|bf3> and i went shopping yesterday
38:48 <rzv|bf3> today is not a good day
40:33 <rzv|bf3> pathfinder society goes up to level 15 right
41:14 <rzv|bf3> because this here shapechange dragon is 16
43:15 <Mort-> 12
43:28 <Mort-> Atm
43:33 <Mort-> Anyway off to work
43:46 <Mort-> In some other land i could be a dragon in truth
43:51 <Mort-> Working on it :p
44:17 <Mort-> And yes I'm a notorious cookie thief
44:34 * Mort- steals cookies from dark daemon
44:57 * Mort- also steals cookies from rsv
45:17 <rzv|bf3> my cookies are made of curry and spice
45:59 <DarkDaemon> Enjoy my cookies.
48:09 * Mort- isn't sure she likes curry and spice cookies :(
49:59 <rzvlptp> theyre really good 
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21:50 <Mort-> How much is a wand of holy sword curious
22:39 <Mort-> 30k gp omfg :p
23:52 <Mort-> Wow 1 kgp per use for trying to pretend I'm a pally
23:54 <Mort-> ><
26:06 <Mekkis> make a character like http://magiccards.info/po2/en/147.html
40:30 <Brunius> You'd need to UMD it too
40:30 <Brunius> It's an awesome spell though
40:30 <Brunius> Incidentally, a wand has 50 charges
40:30 <Brunius> So it's less than 1kgp per use if the 30k gp figure is correct
40:30 <Mort-> So expensive
40:30 <Mort-> Don't worry I'm a umd champ :d
40:30 <Mort-> Well pretty much
47:24 <Brunius> !rand August Septmber October November December
47:24 <dicebot> Brunius, random: October
47:35 <Mort-> That was fun though mekkis
47:47 <Mort-> Nom nom nom :p
48:02 <Brunius> Night guys
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57:53 <rzv|bf3> according to a friend
58:15 <rzv|bf3> i am a horrible person
58:21 <rzv|bf3> i called his dog ugly
58:23 <rzv|bf3> its a pug
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11:44 <Mort-> Lol depends on perspective
23:28 <rzv|bf3> walked into a door
23:32 <rzv|bf3> face is killing me
26:52 <Avatar> done that before
26:59 <Avatar> it's not fun
28:02 <Avatar> jaggedsoul apparently hasn't been on due to medical issues and has assured me he will be back
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37:19 <Mekkis> Mort-, Grolschmir's looking at buying one
39:12 <Mort-> Poor jagged :(
39:24 <Mort-> No money la
39:40 <Mort-> Just trying to see how to pretend you are a pally part 2
39:57 <Mort-> Won't be around on sat though
40:19 <Mort-> Family insists that i have to show up for some function blah blah blah
40:55 <Mort-> Mekkis did you ever find any use for tangle foot bags?
41:02 <Mort-> I feel like getting some
41:11 <Mort-> And possibly a scroll of magic weapon
48:56 * Mort- eats the curry and spice cookies and gives out a gout of fire
02:49 <Brunius> Yay for throwing up at 1am
06:52 <Mekkis> so you're not schooling today?
13:57 <Brunius> Nope
14:08 <Brunius> I don't particularly feel like throwing up at school
31:34 <Avatar> why not
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40:57 <Mekkis> Mort-: they have some use against flying enemies
41:31 <Mekkis> Avatar, is there any chance I could run something in the Saturday slot? (a 1-7 scenario at 3-4 or 6-7)?
45:09 <Avatar> not likely, maybe if you asked me before I scheduled it and got a couple of acceptances
45:24 <Mekkis> no problem: it just came up today
45:38 <Avatar> maybe something'll change by thursday
46:08 <Avatar> can you plan that closely to the day
46:36 <Mekkis> sure
47:04 <Avatar> friday night and sunday are still open if you want them?
47:22 <Mekkis> possibly Friday night, but I do Magic then
47:39 <Avatar> up to you
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47:55 <Mort-> I was thinking of getting some
48:02 <Avatar> there's no limit on how closely you schedule it as to when the game happens, but it gives players less time to say I'm in
48:03 <Mort-> Or tangleshot arrows
48:10 <Avatar> although some people will prefer that too
48:14 <Mekkis> Mort-, it's probably not worth it for you
48:23 <Mort-> Why?
48:28 <Mort-> Got decent dex
49:11 <Mort-> The thing is flying creatures are nasty before you can fly
49:30 <Mort-> Get well soon bru
49:37 <Mekkis> you can cast fly
49:50 <Mort-> Woke up at 5 am on weekend diahorrea
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50:28 <Mort-> Not yet?
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50:34 <Mort-> Or i don't have it loaded
50:42 <Brunius> because people get annoyed when the former contents of your stomach isn't in your stomach
50:43 <Mort-> Well it depends on who is talking :p
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50:44 <Mekkis> Mort-, you don't need to worry about flying creatures
50:44 <Avatar> get the bags or the arrows
50:46 <Avatar> tanglefoots are good
50:53 <Avatar> and cheap
50:54 <Mort-> Me?
50:56 <Avatar> you only need one or two
50:56 <Mekkis> what you need to worry about is flying creatures with ranged attacks
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51:20 <Mort-> I don't want to be carried 150 ft in the air and dropped down
51:51 <Mekkis> if that happens, a tanglefoot bag's not going to stop them
51:56 <Avatar> haha
51:56 <Mort-> Tangle shot arrow has 50 ft on a long bow
52:03 <Avatar> you're funny mort
52:13 <Mort-> Why?
52:25 <Avatar> how is a tanglefoot bag going to stop you getting picked up and dropped
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52:36 <Mort-> Because entangled flying creatures
52:42 <Mort-> Crash to the ground ^^
52:50 <Mort-> Too bad for joo!
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52:58 <Avatar> yeah okay
53:00 <Avatar> the way you said it was weird
53:02 <Mort-> Fail a 15 reflex save for the bag
53:09 <Mekkis> Mort-, entangled winged flying creatures
53:21 <Mekkis> who says the thing that's got you has wings?
53:22 <Mort-> Fail a 10 reflex for the arrow
53:31 <Mort-> Its not my fault i can't fly :(
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55:29 <Mort-> The fun is with fast moving flying creatures with ranged attacks
55:50 <Mort-> If something has 120 fly speed how the fk do you catch him
57:03 <Mort-> Ok make it 150-200 fly speed
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