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02:44 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 10am (Ballig,new game) if people are here | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
02:44 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Sat Jan 28 23:33:43 2012
06:52 <Spaceshot_> wow manga is long
07:03 <Spaceshot_> and main characters can be really stupid/oblivious :P
17:51 <Hydrazine> i used to watc alot of anime and manga and stuff.
17:59 <Hydrazine> and then  i went to basic and just.. moved on.
18:21 <Spaceshot_> went to basic?
18:29 <Hydrazine> basic training.
18:35 <Hydrazine> I did some military time.
18:37 <Spaceshot_> oh
18:48 <Spaceshot_> mmk
19:01 <Spaceshot_> there's still the weeboo in you
19:04 <Spaceshot_> wanting to come out
19:36 <Hydrazine> Eh.
19:39 <Hydrazine> maybe.
20:28 <Spaceshot_> I relate to anime more than real people shows
21:00 <Spaceshot_> and manga is a lot better than books to me, since everyone reading it gets the same picture of the people in it, or the event or whatever
21:29 <Avatar> mort you jobless fk
21:43 <Spaceshot_> you can talk avatar
21:52 <Avatar> dam right !
22:15 <Avatar> next week I will have to look for 2 jobs a day instead of just 1 :(
22:42 <Spaceshot_> ouch
22:49 <Spaceshot_> centerlink going all nazi on you?
23:05 <Avatar> no I have been at arcanacon all week
23:15 <Spaceshot_> ahh
23:36 <Avatar> playing sweet, sweet PFS
23:47 <Mort-> Lol :d
23:53 <Mort-> Fanatic :p
24:11 <Avatar> I'm going out of my mind with fatigue
24:15 <Mort-> Military training hydra? :d
24:35 <Mort-> Yeah you have sux stamina or maybe not
24:41 <Mort-> 4 days is a long time
25:01 <Mort-> Been up 24 h straight before
25:11 <Mort-> Then next 2 days on 4 h sleep each
25:30 <Mekkis_znc> well... I need to work on Tuesday....
25:49 <Mort-> Good luck :d
25:56 <Mort-> I'm heading to bed :p
26:05 <Spaceshot_> I've been up about 30hrs, slept for about another 4-6, went for another 24-30hrs
26:11 <Spaceshot_> was a long LAN
26:31 <Mekkis_znc> I ran First Steps 2 today
26:33 <Hydrazine> yeah, MOrt.
26:36 <Hydrazine> I did some time in the navy.
26:45 <Spaceshot_> sing songs?
27:07 <Hydrazine> Sure.
27:32 <Hydrazine> Theres one day in basic where you get to sing non-regulation marching songs.
27:39 <Hydrazine> like Beat It, and the mickey mouse song.
27:50 <Spaceshot_> haha
28:15 <Spaceshot_> I don't think Beat It is the best thing to sing around people who have been away from the ones they love for a long time XD
28:28 <Spaceshot_> wtf italics
29:05 <Hydrazine> I got to visit brisbane when I was in the service.
29:23 <Hydrazine> Average aussie chick = hotter than average American chick
29:43 <Spaceshot_> really?
29:50 <Ballig> grass is always greener
29:52 <Hydrazine> I have a theory.
30:00 <Hydrazine> That its based on the quantity of fatties.
30:21 <Hydrazine> All the girls that would look good if they lost some weight..
30:43 <Spaceshot_> yes, but with weight comes personality
30:44 <Spaceshot_> usually
31:17 <Hydrazine> Not part of the theory.
31:21 <Avatar> Hydrazine: you're 100% correct
31:46 <Hydrazine> Yeah. In aussie, those girls ARE thinner, and thus, the average is better.
32:17 <Spaceshot_> stupidly thin girls are annoying, demanding and bitchy
32:19 <Spaceshot_> generally
32:54 <Hydrazine> You're going too far, Space.
33:26 <Spaceshot_> possibly
33:34 <Spaceshot_> but there are reasons I'm going too far
33:55 <Avatar> I don't think we're talking stupidly thin
34:11 <Spaceshot_> many girls are stupidly thin
34:16 <Avatar> many are not
34:18 <Spaceshot_> stupidly thin is very close to thin
34:24 <Hydrazine> I'm just saying, I believe that the average aussie girl is hotter than the average american, based on less obesity.
34:29 <Spaceshot_> true
34:50 <Hydrazine> Thats my arguement and I'm sticking to it.
34:51 <Spaceshot_> if you're basing it off of the intial look which is gaged on weight then sure
36:00 <Spaceshot_> then I agree
36:06 <Spaceshot_> but that's just me, I hate people in general
36:12 <Spaceshot_> so I'm a little biased
36:20 <Hydrazine> Prefer lemurs?
36:27 <Spaceshot_> haha
36:31 <Spaceshot_> I don't dislike lemurs
36:40 <Hydrazine> What about dingos>
36:48 <Spaceshot_> haha
37:28 <Spaceshot_> I'm not against animals/creatures that don't decide to talk about stupid things, or complain about shit that they constantly do (and constantly complain about)
37:33 <Spaceshot_> there are more, but meh
40:40 <Mort-> Ok really off to bed now
40:42 <Hydrazine> i knew a parrot that talked about stupid shit.
40:48 <Mort-> Good night guys :(
41:01 <Mort-> Wish i could be around tomorrow but :(
41:07 <Mort-> Well ill be
41:12 <Mort-> For the first 3 h
41:13 <Hydrazine> See ya Mort
41:21 <Mort-> Then i have to go
41:24 Mort- has quit (Quit: Bye)
41:48 <Avatar> good on you mort
54:06 <Avatar> <?staggered
54:06 <diebot> A staggered creature may take a single move action or standard action each round (but not both, nor can he take full-round actions). A staggered creature can still take free, swift, and immediate actions. A creature with nonlethal damage exactly equal to its current hit points gains the staggered condition.
54:56 <Spaceshot_> so staggered can still make a 5ft step and cast a spell
59:32 <Avatar> yeah
59:47 <Avatar> there is a bullet that can be shot at something to make it staggered
59:54 <Spaceshot_> for 1 round?
00:10 <Avatar> 1d3 rounds
00:20 <Avatar> or until it's removed with a DC 15 heal
00:24 <Spaceshot_> wow that must be a good bullet
00:30 <Avatar> costs 1722gp
00:37 <Spaceshot_> ouch
00:47 <Avatar> there is one that lasts longer and is harder to remove
00:55 <Avatar> and costsm ore
01:04 <Avatar> I'm looking at a powdered horn that lets me fire and reload underwater
01:09 <Avatar> 2000gp
01:34 <Spaceshot_> nice
02:34 <Avatar> I can afford it now, but I've never had a need to fire it underwater yet
02:45 <Avatar> it's damn expensive
03:00 <Avatar> pretty good as far as wondrous items go though
03:01 <Spaceshot_> get a handy haversack
03:02 <Spaceshot_> xD
03:42 <Avatar> yeah I keep getting told that
03:47 <Avatar> but I don't need one
03:58 <Hydrazine> Hes too OP.
03:59 <Avatar> maybe if I want to carry a keg around
04:06 <Hydrazine> You mean you don't?
04:07 <Spaceshot_> nah
04:10 <Avatar> keg of black powder for explosives
04:15 <Avatar> where, in my backpack
04:17 <Spaceshot_> it's more of if you want to use items in your backpack, and get into melee often
04:19 <Spaceshot_> it's good
04:25 <Spaceshot_> because you don't take AOO for using it
04:26 <Avatar> I'm a gunslinger
04:31 <Avatar> I don't like getting into point blank
04:34 <Spaceshot_> like you do with a normal backpack
05:03 <Spaceshot_> like with ballig's alchemist, or alchemists in general who don't go spam bomb route it's good for
06:41 <Spaceshot_> masterwork is 300g in addition right?
07:06 <Avatar> yeah
07:12 <Avatar> I think I have been overspending on bullets
07:25 <Avatar> I'll figure this out tomorrow
07:27 <Avatar> gg
07:41 <Spaceshot_> have fun
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07:32 <Hydrazine> dead here
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39:25 <Hydrazine> howdy.
39:35 <S711> Hey.
39:49 <Hydrazine> Do you play with these guys, S7?
39:49 <S711> Do you have chocolate Mozart hearts over there?
39:53 <S711> Naw.
39:58 <Hydrazine> Not that I know of.
40:09 <S711> Got to have Mozart hearts, shame.
40:12 <Hydrazine> but we don't have honey roasted macadamia nuts either, and its a pity.
40:14 <Hydrazine> or Tim Tams.
40:33 <S711> http://global-chocolates.com/img/reber-mozart-hearts-counter-unit_4317_300.jpg
40:34 <Hydrazine> I have to hire a mule to ship me Tim Tams.
40:48 <S711> OK, do you have goat milk?
40:52 <Hydrazine> Can't say I've ever seen them.
41:07 <Hydrazine> I eat goat regularly, but I don't drink the milk.
41:18 <S711> It's the milk you want.
41:23 <S711> It's so good.
41:28 <Hydrazine> Never had it. Or even seen it offered, that I know of.
41:41 <S711> Which part of Oz do you live in?
41:46 <Hydrazine> I don't.
41:51 <S711> Oh, OK.
41:51 <Hydrazine> I'm the token American
42:14 <Hydrazine> so you just come hang out?
45:07 <S711> Yea, I played some MUDs at one point.
45:22 <Hydrazine> I did that once.
45:30 <S711> I think they're brilliant.
45:35 <Hydrazine> Can be.
46:52 <Hydrazine> Like any online game though, part of it depends on community. And game engine. I remember a few cool ones going funny from weird game systems.
49:02 <Hydrazine> Why dont you try a game with these cats?
49:05 <Hydrazine> And lemur.
49:13 <S711> I don't have the time.
49:48 <Hydrazine> Hm. Fair enough. Can be good fun though, Keep it in mind if you get a chance, end up bored one day?
50:01 <S711> Won't happen.
50:07 <S711> It's not possible to be bored.
51:14 <S711> I haven't been bored since I got me a computer and an Internet connection.
51:18 <S711> Really.
51:49 <S711> I don't understand people who're like "I'm bored, yadayada".
51:52 <Hydrazine> Then it seems like not so much you don't have the time, as much as you just don't really care to.
52:03 <S711> There are not enough hours in a day.
52:13 <S711> No, it's more like, a choice.
52:20 <S711> I have to choose what I spend it on.
52:33 <S711> It's either D&D or music production.
52:44 <S711> And let me tell you, music production takes a lot of time.
53:55 <Hydrazine> Making your own music?
54:37 <S711> Yes.
55:39 <Hydrazine> Cool.
55:55 <S711> It is.
57:20 <Hydrazine> I'm a bit confused though, why you come hang out with the D&D guys if you don't really intend to play.
59:24 <S711> I'm in a number of channels, not necessarily to participate.
59:32 <S711> I like reading up on these channels.
00:37 <S711> You've never read the transcript of a D&D session?
01:25 <Hydrazine> I've watched a few games.
23:01 <Avatar> zzzz
38:46 <Hydrazine> Man, werewolf form is friggin useless when you're high leveled.
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45:11 <Hydrazine> Rumor has it you got murderized.
51:36 <Brunius> Who, me?
51:41 <Brunius> I've just been at Arcanacon
52:28 <Hydrazine> Hear you died in a game.
23:25 <Mekkis_znc> what?
23:36 <Mekkis_znc> Hydrazine, it wasn't murder
23:40 <Mekkis_znc> it was self-defence iirc
23:53 NickOP sets mode +r Mekkis
32:05 <Avatar> yes he got murderised
57:14 <Hydrazine> I want a story!~
57:19 <Hydrazine> Nobody tells me stories.
30:31 <Ballig> zzz
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43:09 <Avatar-> :o)
51:05 <Ballig> zzz
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19:12 <Ballig> sup n4sa
19:53 <Hydrazine> yo
28:39 <Ballig> so tired
28:45 <Ballig> Hydrazine: wanna make out?
29:15 <Hydrazine> obby.
34:07 <Hydrazine> con still going?
47:00 <Ballig> yeah
47:02 <Ballig> today's the last day
52:30 <n4sa> Hello sorry I was away. 
53:03 <n4sa> Haven't been on irc for at least 10 years
53:47 <n4sa> Saw an iPad app for it and thought I would give it a whirl. But please don't judge me on that :p
54:35 <n4sa> Big time d&d fan from the 80s and also played MERPS & Rolemaster
54:55 <n4sa> I am in Brisbane 
55:22 <Hydrazine> hey.
55:36 <Hydrazine> We don't care where you are; hell I'm an American and they'll still let me play.
55:42 <Hydrazine> Welcome along.
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57:16 <Mort-> Ooo
58:08 <Hydrazine> What what?
59:26 <Mort-> Just here to watch :(
59:42 <Mort-> I'm a ghost you know :p
59:51 <Hydrazine> I thought you were a lemur.
59:57 <Hydrazine> How do you expect me to keep up with this?
59:58 <Mort-> Jagged should be around soon
00:07 <Mort-> Today ghostmur :d
00:30 <Hydrazine> Dead huh? S'what you get for fighting dragonborn.
00:34 <Hydrazine> FUS RO DAH and all that.
01:29 <Mort-> :p
01:50 <Mort-> You really  need tashes to stick around with you
05:09 <n4sa> Is there a game today.
05:20 <Ballig> there will be if I have players that show up
05:32 <Mort-> Kept waking up last night
05:42 <Mort-> My fingers are so itchy
05:43 <Mort-> Lol
05:57 <Mort-> Want to play but know i don't have enough time
06:10 <Mort-> The moment jagged soul pops in
06:27 <Ballig> with jagged here it's still only two players
06:52 <n4sa> No probs. I was going to watch and see how it all goes. I'll be b
07:02 <n4sa>  Be back a bit later. 
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07:23 <Mort-> Oh
07:40 <Mort-> Hydrazine needs a summon tashes spell
08:07 <Hydrazine> Pssh/
08:11 <Hydrazine> I have one.
08:37 <Hydrazine> Two, really.
09:09 <Hydrazine> One of us usually has to wake up the other for raid.
12:07 <Mort-> Lol
12:13 <Mort-> I'm too old to raid
12:22 <Mort-> Can't stand being with so many people
12:45 <Barmaley> raid, lol
12:48 <Hydrazine> ...i didn't think you were that old.
12:52 <Barmaley> sounds like 2006
12:53 <Hydrazine> or even my age.
13:07 <Mort-> Nah
13:32 <Mort-> I can't stand the few idiots that every raid group has
13:37 <Mort-> Nor the waiting time
14:05 <Hydrazine> thats why we started our own group.
14:54 <Ballig> I think she's 20
15:00 <Mort-> And usually when I'm working i just can't commit to a single group
15:01 <Mort-> 24
15:03 <Mort-> Actually
15:19 <Mort-> Just that i generally sound a lot younger
15:47 <Hydrazine> huh.
15:52 <Mort-> Times like this id txt jagged soul but i don't have his number
15:54 <Mort-> What?
17:01 <Mort-> Usually the buff sequence before.you enter the plane is 10min long
17:20 <Mort-> ><
18:33 <Hydrazine> not so bad for us, i guess?
18:53 <Mort-> How big is raid group
19:19 <Hydrazine> 10 or 20
19:26 <Mort-> You had to get the resist energy spells pat then the stat buffs
19:45 <Mort-> Was talking about 40people raids
19:57 <Mort-> Back in old everquest days
20:12 <Mort-> The mana regen hp regen
20:20 <Hydrazine> hell, i'm usually playing the buff class, but i have to be in combat to do most of it.
20:47 <Mort-> Everquest you do it before the fight starts
21:02 <Hydrazine> cool system though. i lower all my stats to raise the stats of the whole group. that i can do before we start.
21:13 <Hydrazine> then i lower the boss' stats to get mine back up.
21:36 <Mort-> In everquest the boss would probably ressist it
22:07 <Mort-> You need like quite a number of lower spell resist on the boss
22:12 <Hydrazine> they still resist some of the really powerful ones, but i still get my side of the effect.
22:25 <Mort-> Before you can start nuking his hide
23:15 <Hydrazine> things are different now.
23:31 <Mort-> Thanks
23:38 <Hydrazine> For example, I think 40mans are dead overall.
23:51 <Hydrazine> Too much shit to logistics 40 people together
23:57 <Mort-> Then sometimes the tank would say 3 min to get the boss aggro
24:11 <Hydrazine> too much bullshit. and that way your bound to get 3-4 idiots who fuck everything up.
24:12 <Mort-> Before the rest of the party can move in
24:15 <Mort-> Yes
24:31 <Mort-> The tank would fight defensively
24:47 <Mort-> With healer healing minimally at max range
24:47 <Hydrazine> tashes is making her own 10man group. its only 10 people. if somebody fucks up, its usually pretty easy to figure out who.
25:02 <Mort-> Yes you can yell at them
25:17 <Mort-> I disliked the 40 people stuff though
25:33 <Hydrazine> I never did 40mans.
25:34 <Mort-> What i enjoy is a 6 people group exploring  a new dungeon
25:48 <Barmaley> what game are you talking about? warkraft?
26:06 <Mort-> The problem is the game was designed that some content you really needed that number of people
26:12 <Mort-> To get stuff done
26:19 <Hydrazine> Um. My current MMO is Rift. I don't believe Mort is talking about anything current, as much as old EQ memories.
26:28 <Mort-> Of course
26:32 <Mort-> Its very very old
26:39 <Hydrazine> Yeah. Not even WoW really designs 40man content anymore.
26:42 <Mort-> Like one of the first mmos
26:45 <Mort-> To start
27:12 <Mort-> But even high level dungeons you need 2 groups
27:17 <Hydrazine> Theres been a pretty big push to make 10man runs equivalent. Or atleast damn close.
27:26 <Mort-> My brother tried with a specialist team of one
27:37 <Mort-> Could do some stuff, couldn't do some
28:09 <Mort-> He got his weekend group an he would lead them to dungeons no one has gone before
28:21 <Barmaley> only mmo id ever touch is the warhammer 40k one
28:31 <Mort-> No guides no walkthroughs just figure everything out yourself
28:35 <Mort-> Including pulling
28:47 <Hydrazine> Just that much of a 40k fan or you hate everything else?
28:48 <Mort-> If you train you fk yourselves up
28:54 <Mort-> No one to rescue you
29:12 <Mort-> But for a non monk he made a good puller
29:20 <Mort-> Paladin
29:46 <Mort-> He couldn't fd(feign death) split
29:52 <Mort-> But he would lull pull
30:16 <Mort-> 2 mobs
30:25 <Mort-> You slip by the corner
30:31 <Mort-> Lull one 3 times
30:35 <Mort-> The further one
30:47 <Mort-> The nearer one
30:56 <Mort-> Then pull the further one
31:06 <Mort-> The problems is when lull resists
31:11 <Mort-> Then both chase you
31:12 <Mort-> Lol
31:16 <Ballig> I used to pull aggro on the healer
31:17 <Ballig> for laughs
31:23 <Mort-> He wouldn't
31:33 <Mort-> He rather die first
31:37 <Ballig> HEALER: wtf, Ballig just misdirected to me
31:42 <Hydrazine> lol.
31:48 <Mort-> Then let them harm his casters
31:51 <Hydrazine> I used to do that sometimes.
31:59 <Hydrazine> When rogues got misdirect too.
32:04 <Mort-> If the chase his casters
32:19 <Mort-> He would pull aggro off them
32:27 <Mort-> Fire off a massive stun sequence
32:28 <Ballig> that's not as funny though Mort
32:32 <Ballig> much funnier to give the healers aggro
32:33 <Ballig> and laugh as they die
32:40 <Mort-> It always annoys mobr
32:46 <Hydrazine> I'd do it to dps warriors, Ballig.
32:47 <Mort-> If they die so do you
32:57 <Hydrazine> Because they can't get rid of it.
33:00 <Mort-> All warriors in eq are tanks
33:09 <Mort-> I don't think they would care lol
33:21 <Ballig> I don't die, I feign death
33:29 <Mort-> They made warriors in eq very good tanks
33:33 <Mort-> He is monk then
33:39 <Hydrazine> i rogue-tanked 5 man bosses?
33:48 <Mort-> Its used to execute fancy pull tricks
33:52 <Barmaley> Hydrazine	Just that much of a 40k fan or you hate everything else? <=== eh? where did you get that idea
34:06 <Hydrazine> <Barmaley> only mmo id ever touch is the warhammer 40k one
34:30 <Barmaley> because its only interesting looking mmo out there
34:51 <Mort-> To each their own
35:00 <Hydrazine> Eh. I tried it. Didn't like it much.
35:05 <Mort-> But I'm done with those
35:13 <Mort-> I won't pay to play lol
35:24 <Barmaley> because everything else is a clone of a clone of a clone ad infinitum
35:36 <Mort-> Which results I'm stuck with a bunch of noobs
35:40 <Ballig> why do people think brook shields is attractive
35:42 <Barmaley> you tried it? its coming out in 2014, you must be from the future
36:10 <Ballig> I'm from the future
36:14 <Mort-> Anyway even if someone
36:21 <Mort-> Gives you aggro
36:21 <Ballig> it's 11.35am Sunday here
36:27 <Ballig> that's in the future for all three of you
36:30 <Mort-> You should be able to drop it
36:41 <Barmaley> not far enough, ballig
36:46 <Mort-> There are ways to aggro control
36:51 <Ballig> I didn't say I was from 2014, I said I was from the future
36:51 <Ballig> :p
36:54 <Hydrazine> Oh. I'm thinking the old warhammer MMO then. My bad.
36:57 <Mort-> Anyway i was sort of young back then
37:04 <Mort-> And playing a mage
37:17 <Mort-> Got yelled at for aggro control
37:26 <Mort-> Or the lack thereof
37:37 <Hydrazine> I only occassionally pull aggro.
37:38 <Barmaley> anyways, as i was saying with everything being a clone of a clone of clone, even wh 40k turns out to be another clone, at least ill play it for the theme
37:39 <Ballig> I would have convinced you that misdirection was reducing your aggro
37:43 <Mort-> I thought the best thing to do was to nuke everything up
37:46 <Barmaley> like i played lotro, for the theme
37:47 <Ballig> and then hit you with it every time the cooldown was up
37:54 <Barmaley> even though it was almost identical to wow
38:10 <Mort-> Since dead mobs don't do dmg :p
38:28 <Mort-> Id ae a whole bunch of mobs lol
38:37 <Ballig> that's a bit stupid
38:42 <Mort-> Ah what a noob i was back then
38:43 <Ballig> you were one of those nub mages that I hated
38:51 <Barmaley> lol
38:52 <Mort-> Yes :d
38:52 <Hydrazine> I'll be back in a bit.
38:57 <Mort-> I admit :d
39:11 <Mort-> Ive learnt some since then
39:16 <Ballig> I would be playing my warrior and a mage would die "OMG YOU SUCK YOU DIDN'T HOLD AGGRO" "dude, you were AOEing your ass off. what did you expect?"
39:21 <Hydrazine> You going out with cousins, yes Mort?
39:24 <Mort-> But i think i was only 14
39:26 <Mort-> Yes
39:32 <Mort-> At that time
39:39 <Mort-> But there are 3 mobs
39:41 <Mort-> :d
39:48 <Mort-> So we should ae :d
40:06 <Mort-> But i learnt at high levels
40:18 Hydrazine is now known as Hydrafk
40:21 <Mort-> There is a type of ae group that does that
40:47 <Mort-> They get a tank to pull like a large part of the zone
41:02 <Mort-> The mages stun and ae all the mobs while they are stunned
41:13 <Mort-> And kill really really fast 
41:22 <Mort-> Very caster heavy group
41:31 <Mort-> They usually sit at the zone ent
41:44 <Mort-> So they can bail if anything goes bad
42:27 <Mort-> Usually though only certain zones with mobs that don't stun/slow/nuke too hard
42:40 <Mort-> Are applicable for that
43:00 <Mort-> Limited circumstances
58:29 <Ballig> you're so energetic
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02:34 <Mort-> Lol
02:45 * Mort- bounces up and down
03:09 <Mort-> Its bad if i run out of energy though
03:12 <Mort-> :o
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06:26 * Mort- becomes a sleepymur
08:09 <Ballig> your face is
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22:01 <Hydrazine> So.
22:06 <Ballig> so.
22:09 <Hydrazine> Its all Ballig's fault.
22:17 <Ballig> :p
22:31 <Ballig> actually what annoys me is that as far as Canine and Thawne knew, we were meant to be playing CoTE this morning
22:37 <Ballig> and neither of them turned up, or said anything about not being able to turn up
22:57 <Hydrazine> ...What is CoTE anyway?
23:19 <Ballig> it's a PFS sanctioned module
23:28 <Ballig> so it's a small pre-written campaign that has been sanctioned for PFS play
23:34 <Ballig> ends up being like 4-8 scenarios put together
24:48 <Ballig> I had actually been hoping they would show up and we'd play a regular scenario (because three of the other CoTE players are at a con)
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26:23 <Hydracell> Kick ass.  
26:27 <Ballig> hm?
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27:20 <Hydrazine> just wanted to see if I could get it working on my phone.
28:10 <Hydrazine> So.. CoTE is like, notably bigger overall than most of the other stuff that gets run?
28:14 <Mort-> Cool
28:18 <Ballig> yeah
28:42 <Mort-> I didn't want to sign for it
28:54 <Mort-> Because i didn't know if i could make it or not
29:05 <Mort-> Don't sign for stuff i can't be around for
31:02 <Mort-> Hydracell sounds cool
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31:35 <Hydrazine> lol.
31:38 <Mort-> Oh hydra
31:44 <Hydrazine> Could go with Niazine instead.
31:47 <Hydrazine> Hm?
31:48 <Mort-> I Calcutated if mobs have a
31:58 <Mort-> Dc of 17 to trip
32:13 <Mort-> You have a less then 50 percent chance of tripping them over
32:22 <Mort-> I'm counting my magus as a mob
32:26 <Ballig> you actually had to calculate that? :p
32:34 <Mort-> I think most will have uh
32:36 <Hydrazine> i also have a less than 10% chance of falling over myself.
32:41 <Mort-> 15 for trip dc
32:49 <Mort-> Youjust drop your weapon
32:53 <Mort-> You don't trip
32:54 <Hydrazine> No.
32:54 <Ballig> level 1 creatures have between 12 and 19
32:58 <Mort-> Ah
32:59 <Ballig> but 15 is a good guess
33:01 <Hydrazine> That takes a special tripping weapon.
33:06 <Hydrazine> to option to drop it instead.
33:13 <Ballig> he isn't using a special tripping weapon I don't think
33:15 <Mort-> Then go get one? :d
33:17 <Hydrazine> I'm not.
33:22 <Mort-> Or did you run out of money
33:23 <Ballig> he prefers the non-tripping ones
33:26 <Mort-> Ah
33:29 <Hydrazine> ..Remember me saying I might end up with like 3 polearms overall?
33:34 <Hydrazine> Thats why.
33:35 <Mort-> Yes
33:37 <Ballig> just keep in mind they're heavy
33:47 <Ballig> a 10lb glaive annoyed the hell out of my wizard/fighter
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33:50 <Mort-> You said different sticks for different purposes
33:52 <Ballig> he's only 5lb below a medium load now
34:01 <Mort-> He has 20 str ><
34:12 <Hydrazine> i got like another 150lb to get to the top end of medium.
34:14 <Ballig> yeah but he's also got armour and a bunch more than one weapon :p
34:15 <Mort-> I think we should get a horse
34:23 <Ballig> but he's happy to be in a medium load so that's fine
34:41 <Hydrazine> So its just a wizard for now huh?
34:51 <Ballig> hm? my character?
34:58 <Hydrazine> the wizzie fighter
34:59 <Mort-> Fighter wizard
35:01 <Mort-> Level2
35:03 <Ballig> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=338
35:08 <Mort-> Jax
35:10 <Ballig> fighter 1/wizard 1
35:23 <Hydrazine> Ah,
35:31 <Ballig> went first level as fighter for the hp
35:52 <Mort-> He is rich anywam
35:55 <Ballig> (that's not the only reason for going fighter, but that's why taking his first level as fighter instead of wizard)
36:01 <Mort-> Lots of gm creds :p
36:02 <Mort-> Ya
36:14 <Avatar-> this special game is awesome
36:17 <Ballig> he only just had enough money to get a mithral chain shirt :p
36:20 <Ballig> and the items
36:30 <Avatar-> mekkis never described it very well
36:33 <Ballig> was like 21gp short of getting a mithral chain shirt and a masterwork glaive
36:39 <Ballig> Avatar-: why is it special
36:43 <Mort-> Id be happy to let ballig talk
36:43 <Avatar-> we're all in the same encounter
36:50 <Mort-> In any scenario we play
36:57 <Ballig> is that the three table game?
37:01 <Avatar-> but fighting different mobs per table
37:02 <Avatar-> but
37:08 <Mort-> I'm not good at talking
37:09 <Avatar-> 4 table
37:13 <Ballig> ahh
37:17 <Avatar-> but
37:21 <Ballig> but!
37:24 <Avatar-> area of effect hits all tables
37:27 <Ballig> yeah
37:29 <Ballig> he mentioned that
37:34 <Ballig> if you channel on one table it hits all tables
37:46 <Avatar-> so higher level takes cast extended haste
37:53 <Ballig> ha
37:54 <Avatar-> and every pathfinder gets haste
37:59 <Hydrazine> okay. cutting stuff. back in a sec.
38:00 <Ballig> mass haste, mass bull's strength, etc?
38:05 <Avatar-> yeah
38:08 <Avatar-> I have a keg
38:17 <Ballig> a keg?
38:20 <Avatar-> 20 ft radius 5d6
38:24 <Avatar-> powder keg
38:26 <Ballig> ha
38:28 <Ballig> to blow shit up
38:34 <Avatar-> yeah
39:12 <Avatar-> a lot of hoo hoo ha ha over negative channels and explosions and sleet storm
39:26 <Avatar-> grolschmir had a moment of being in serious trouble
39:36 <Ballig> how come he's allowed to play it again
40:06 <Avatar-> he was stuck in a bar in absalom while the guards were clearing out 100 people
40:20 <Avatar-> nobody cares about the technicalities man
40:57 <Ballig> but is he getting credit for it again
41:17 <Avatar-> yeah of course
41:35 <Barmaley> has anyone of you guys got that pathfinder beginner box?
41:46 <Ballig> so this is one that you can re-play and get credit?
41:55 <Ballig> Barmaley: Mekkis does
41:58 <Avatar-> what?
42:02 <Avatar-> no this is new
42:21 <Ballig> so they have two multiple table special scenarios now?
42:32 <Avatar-> mekkis hasn't played it before
42:38 <Ballig> he's played one like this before
42:41 <Ballig> where you have multiple tables
42:49 <Avatar-> I thought there was more than 2
42:55 <Ballig> he was talking about wanting to run it in here
46:56 <Avatar-> how
47:10 <Ballig> when we get more players, he said
47:13 <Ballig> he was talking about minimum 12
47:23 <Avatar-> wouldn't work nearly as well
47:34 <Avatar-> yeah min 12 would work
47:48 <Avatar-> no more spoilers
48:04 <Avatar-> I didn't think this was rerunnable
48:23 <Ballig> it might be a different scenario
48:30 <Ballig> but I am pretty sure it's rerunnable
48:38 <Ballig> it's not like that convention is the only paizo convention ever
48:47 <Ballig> whatever is run there can be run anywhere
52:55 <Ballig> Sasha (Lord) just signed onto Skype
54:40 <Hydrazine> So?
54:44 <Hydrazine> Are you stalking him?
55:08 <Ballig> no, but I'm suggesting it could be a second player
55:40 <Hydrazine> whos the first?
55:58 <Ballig> well, you if you were wanting to play, but it's a moot point obviously if you don't :p
56:10 <Hydrazine> No. I'm available tonight.
56:16 <Hydrazine> We could play.
56:24 <Hydrazine> Tash might too, when she wakes the fuck up.
57:05 <Hydrazine> I could get her out of bed, but I wouldn't unless she was the only one we still needed.
57:22 <Ballig> yeah
01:29 <Barmaley> dewds, will you be playing tomorrow, and if yes when?
01:58 <Barmaley> id like to get in on a new campaign
02:06 <Barmaley> with a premade char
02:22 <Ballig> dunno, I won't be running one because I work mondays
03:23 <Barmaley> eh i mean tomorrow as in sunday :>
03:37 <Ballig> tomorrow is monday here
03:52 <Hydrazine> Theres more americans here?
03:54 <Ballig> he's austrian
03:59 <Hydrazine> Huh.
04:08 <Hydrazine> Ain't it Sunday over there?
04:15 <Barmaley> yeah actually it is
04:17 <Barmaley> 3am
04:23 <Hydrazine> Mkay. I'm not crazy then.
05:09 <Hydrazine> My limited geography was telling me, that if its 9pm here, there isn't much that can be later and yet not sunday.
05:57 <Barmaley> indeed you are not crazy
06:02 <Barmaley> when it comes to geography
06:13 <Hydrazine> Thank you for being specific.
07:06 <Barmaley> you are welcome
07:19 <Barmaley> im i the only one from ürop around here?
07:30 <Hydrazine> That I know of.
07:53 <Hydrazine> We got a bunch of Strayans an an azn girl.
08:51 <Barmaley> too bad
08:59 <Barmaley> and kinda weird
09:03 <Ballig> S711 is from estonia
09:07 <Ballig> and there was a guy from finland here for a short while
09:15 <Barmaley> that the pathfinder is only big in oz
09:19 <Hydrazine> I don't think S7 plays though.
09:20 <Ballig> (this is like a hipster channel - I mean, seriously? a finn and an estonian?)
09:44 <Barmaley> are you related?
09:56 <Ballig> to whom?
10:16 <Barmaley> i mean the finn and the estonian
10:27 <Ballig> the finn and the estonian weren't related
10:32 <Ballig> finns don't like estonians much
10:37 <Ballig> although finns don't like anyone much
10:39 <Barmaley> as is sharing a culture and a bit of language
10:40 <Hydrazine> Wheres Lord from? He an Aussie too?
10:46 <Ballig> yeah Lord's Australian
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11:32 <Barmaley> well finnish is the most scary language beside icelandish
11:33 <Barmaley> in europe
11:51 <Barmaley> hungarian is kinda hard too, but sooooo funny
11:56 <Ballig> ha
11:59 <Barmaley> its all like mek mek mek mek
12:04 <Ballig> I know some finnish
13:31 <Barmaley> say something
13:36 <Ballig> haista vittu
13:54 <Barmaley> vittu is some nasty i bet
14:00 <Barmaley> something*
14:06 <Ballig> yes
14:09 <Barmaley> i heard that too often
14:12 <Hydrazine> Tash knows some Hungarian.
14:13 <Ballig> haha
14:20 <Ballig> haista vittu = "fuck off"
15:05 <Barmaley> now i know what to yell at a H.I.M concert
16:00 <Ballig> there's also perkele which is a fairly universal swear word
16:07 <Ballig> technically translates as 'devil', but used like 'fuck'
16:14 <Ballig> ('haista' translates literally as 'cunt')
16:50 <Barmaley> lol
16:53 <Barmaley> devil as fuck
16:57 <Hydrazine> It amuses me how, universally, the useful things to learn in another language are profane.
16:57 <Barmaley> thats some dark shit
17:26 <Ballig> yep yep
17:32 <Ballig> I do know some other words, but they're not as awesome
17:45 <Ballig> hevonen = horse, oita (but with accents that I can't do) = night, moi = hi
18:14 <Barmaley> have you seen rare exports?
18:22 <Ballig> I've seen the trailer for it
18:28 <Ballig> it looks pretty funny
18:33 <Barmaley> it was ok
18:40 <Barmaley> somewhat too long
18:44 <Ballig> ahh
19:08 <Barmaley> that norwegian movie about trolls was much better
20:11 <Ballig> I just think it's funny that finns believe santa lives in finland
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21:58 <Ballig> sup Alex
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31:32 <Hydrazine> hmm.
31:44 <Hydrazine> But everyone knows Santa lives in Spain.
36:12 <Barmaley> wut, there is no snow in spain
36:33 <Barmaley> except in the pyrenees
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36:43 <Barmaley> and that only in winter probably
36:59 <Hydrazine> Ballig: THis if for you. Just.. listen.
36:59 <Hydrazine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbJpRLhaSqs
38:41 <S711> Fins love us, come one.
38:49 <Ballig> S711: haha no they don't
38:54 <S711> As in, Finns love us, come on.
38:59 <Ballig> apparently all estonians in finland are beggars
39:16 <Ballig> (according to finns)
40:03 <Ballig> also they're upset about everything being outsourced to estonia
40:26 <S711> We have languages and IT.
41:22 <S711> Naw, it's all generalisations anyway.
41:25 <Ballig> also apparently estonia stole the finnish national anthem
41:26 <Ballig> :p
41:35 <S711> Well it sucks anyway.
41:49 <Hydrazine> Aren't national anthem's supposed to be boring?
41:55 <Ballig> yeah
42:00 <Hydrazine> Ever heard the Japanese anthem? I swear its like 10 minutes long.
42:08 <S711> Hehe.
42:10 <Ballig> Hydrazine: what PDF reader do you use?
42:28 <Ballig> (also this guy is pretty interesting and funny - the different cultures interest me, too)
42:33 <Hydrazine> When boats were visiting when I was in Pearl Harbor, we would play the national anthems of their countries in the morning too.
42:42 <Hydrazine> Yeah. I've read two of his books.
42:58 <Ballig> ha, saint nicholas resides in spain
43:01 <Hydrazine> And you had to salute for the duration of all the anthems played, if you happened to be outside.
43:15 <Hydrazine> So man, 7:55 hit and people vanished. Streets cleared out.
43:21 <Ballig> :p
43:31 <Hydrazine> Noone wanted to stand there and salute for the entire duration of the american, japanese, and aussie anthems.
43:42 <Ballig> I bet
43:48 <Ballig> Australians don't even say the whole national anthem
43:54 <Ballig> I can give you the first verse, with a bit of struggling to remember
43:59 <Hydrazine> Christina Aguilara got ours rong.
44:08 <Hydrazine> We lol'd.
44:09 <Ballig> but you'd have a hard task on your hands to find 5 Australians who know the whole anthem off the top of their head
44:26 <Hydrazine> Ask Tashes.
44:29 <Ballig> I don't mean 5 australians in thew hole of australia, btw
44:32 <Hydrazine> Oh yeah, I use Adobe X.
44:36 <Ballig> I mean like if i said "go and find 5 people"
44:41 <Ballig> and you had to walk outside and find 5 people
44:45 <Ballig> youd' be out there all day and wouldn't find them
44:46 <Hydrazine> There was a pretty amusing bet a friend of ours had, Ballig.
45:10 <Hydrazine> English guy. He offered 100 pounds if you could find a pic on google streetview showing a road construction guy actually working.
45:18 <Hydrazine> in london
45:38 <Ballig> ha
46:03 <Hydrazine> and yeah, David Sedaris is awesome.
46:25 <Hydrazine> Getting to parts 2 and 3?
46:32 <Ballig> I didn't continue
46:39 <Hydrazine> should.
46:41 <Hydrazine> totally should.
46:43 <Ballig> can you go to http://dnd.ballig.net/files.php5 and download the Pathfinder PDF Character Sheet
46:54 <Ballig> fill out a few of the fields, hit submit, enter your website username and password and a character number of 353
46:57 <Hydrazine> you're missing all the good shit by not.
47:14 <Ballig> if you do that, I'll listen to the other parts
47:14 <Ballig> :p
47:25 <Hydrazine> I'll give it a shot. for you.
47:43 <Hydrazine> Only because you helped me verify the existence of Mort's tits
47:49 <Ballig> ha
47:54 <Hydrazine> but watch part 2 anyway, jackass.
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53:19 <Hydrazine> I pushed submit and nothing happened.
53:36 <Ballig> did it ask for any input?
55:10 <Hydrazine> Fixed.
55:19 <Hydrazine> Pop-up blocker shut down your input stuff.
55:22 <Ballig> ha
55:26 <Hydrazine> But it asked everything twice
55:29 <Hydrazine> wtf yo?
55:34 <Ballig> really?
55:40 <Ballig> it should ask for username, then password, then character number
55:42 <Ballig> it asked for each of those twice?
55:45 <Hydrazine> yeah..
55:55 <Ballig> blah that means I probably have to install adobe
55:59 <Hydrazine> all of them. twice.
56:22 <Ballig> looks like it didn't send the data to the website either
56:26 <Hydrazine> really?
56:30 <Hydrazine> hm.
56:36 <Hydrazine> I tried. I put numbers in stats.
56:43 <Hydrazine> threw a name at it, HP
56:49 <Ballig> or if it did, it sends it in a different format to foxit
56:53 <Hydrazine> does the modifies for you.
57:03 <Hydrazine> Eh. I did my part.
57:11 <Hydrazine> Cool if you could get it working. I would make a char on it.
57:22 <Hydrazine> Just because its less annoying than .txt
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57:32 <Ballig> yeah
57:39 <Ballig> that Jax character sheet is what it looks like when you submit it
57:43 <Ballig> I made that using this PDF
57:48 <Hydrazine> Cool.
57:58 <Hydrazine> but the submit thing is new?
58:07 <Hydrazine> Hi Tash.
58:13 <Tashes> You made Jax?
58:15 <Ballig> I've been working on this PDf for a few weeks
58:28 <Hydrazine> Not the jax you know.
58:31 <Ballig> ha
58:31 <Hydrazine> Well. maybe kinda.
58:36 <Hydrazine> He is a wizard/fighter..
58:46 <Hydrazine> Jax is a LoL champ, Ballig.
58:52 <Ballig> I see I see
59:00 <Hydrazine> Hes known for being one of the best 1 v 1 champs.
59:25 <Ballig> that is so me !
59:27 <Hydrazine> And doing about half/half magic damage and physical. So you can't just stack one type of defense and be effective against him.
59:27 <Ballig> :p
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00:12 <Tashes> He also jumps on you, stuns you, whacks you with a lamp post and runs away again
00:17 <Spaceshot> thornmail works well though :P
00:21 <Hydrazine> A lamp post. Yes.
00:43 <Hydrazine> But if hes already got his gunblade he might still kick your ass.
00:50 <Spaceshot> probably
00:53 <Hydrazine> Atleast he doesn't get insanely tanky off damage items now.
01:08 <Spaceshot> a taunter + thornmail can do some good damage to jax
01:16 <Ballig> Spaceshot and Hydrazine have the same number of letters
01:18 <Ballig> this cannot go on
01:30 ChanOP gives channel half-operator status to Hydrazine
01:30 <Hydrazine> So does Ballig and Tashes.
01:32 <Ballig> much better
01:35 <Hydrazine> Which one of you shall I shoot?
01:42 <Ballig> yeah but my messages are grey
01:45 <Ballig> so I can tell them apart
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01:50 <Hydrazine> Wtf does this do?
01:59 <Ballig> it puts a % in front of your nick
02:01 <Hydrazine> How could you not tell us apart?
02:14 <Spaceshot> because he cbf reading
02:24 <Hydrazine> I didn't know you played LoL.
02:24 <Ballig> I read the messages, but I use the nick length to determine who's saying it
02:35 <Spaceshot> I don't mind LoL
02:47 <Spaceshot> I somewhat prefer HoN
02:50 <Hydrazine> Do you get confused between yourself, Tashes, Mekkis, Thelen and Nodwik?
03:01 <Ballig> not me because my messages are a different colour
03:05 <Ballig> maybe if Tashes and Mekkis were talking at the same time
03:50 <Hydrazine> Figure out what the deal is with the pdf?
04:01 <Ballig> nah I'll have to install adobe
04:06 <Ballig> I know it works with foxit
04:31 <Hydrazine> It looks good though.
04:41 <Tashes> speaking of Mekkis 
04:43 <Tashes> where is he?
04:45 <Hydrazine> And the autofilling tedious stuff is neat.
04:49 <Ballig> yeah
04:51 <Ballig> especially skills
04:54 <Ballig> my gods, especially skills
04:56 <Hydrazine> mhm.
05:04 <Ballig> freaking hate changing an ability score and having to go through adding them all in
05:10 <Ballig> and you're not sure if you have enough skill ranks
05:11 <Ballig> blah blah blah
05:27 <Ballig> Tashes: he's at the pathfinder convention
05:33 <Ballig> along with Avatar, Brunius, Thelen and Tristen
05:36 <Tashes> of course. that's why he's not talkign to me
05:41 <Ballig> yep yep
05:44 <Ballig> they've all been there since Thursday
05:46 <Hydrazine> Which leaves us with insufficient people to play a game.
05:55 <Ballig> well, kind of
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12:52 <Ballig> aaaargh
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12:58 <Hydrazine> ?
13:00 <Ballig> why does adobe reader automatically I assume I want it to be the default PDF reader
13:07 <Ballig> fucking hate acrobat
14:33 <Ballig> does acrobat reader not let you save filled out forms by default
15:05 <Hydrazine> not sure.
15:33 <Ballig> wonder if that's a limitation of adobe reader or if I can change that in the original PDF
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27:08 <Hydrazine> Except for a few pleasantries, Santa doesn't speak Spanish.
27:31 <Ballig> :p
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24:42 ChanOP sets mode +a #d&d Ballig
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39:09 <Avatar-> :o)
40:41 <Lord> clown:D
41:31 <MekkisScreen> .
43:03 <Ballig> did everyone die horribly
47:35 <Tashes> Herro
47:56 <Tashes> Funny thing is Hydra literally just said 'it'd be nice if Lord logged on.. i feel like DnD.. ' then fell asleep
48:04 <Ballig> ha
48:09 <Ballig> it's getting a bit late on a sunday to run a game anyway
48:24 <Ballig> people didn't seem too keen for a game this weekend
48:34 <Tashes> too much else on
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39:09 <Avatar-> kaleb died
40:36 <Ballig> that sucks
40:42 <Ballig> in the big freeforall?
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49:43 <Avatar-> yeah
49:50 <Avatar-> that's all we're playing today
50:04 <Avatar-> apparently another cleric is raising him
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50:18 <Ballig> isn't that expensive
50:23 <Avatar-> but it costs almost the same
50:31 <Avatar-> the material component
50:41 <Avatar-> he didn't really make any mistakes
50:45 <Ballig> yeah
50:48 <Ballig> it's 5,000 gold
50:56 <Avatar-> it was just a really tough bad guy
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15:36 <Mort-> Wuh
15:44 <Mort-> On and off soon ^^
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48:42 <MekkisScreen> he made a mistake
48:58 <MekkisScreen> don't end your turn adjacent to the enemy
50:19 <Ballig> that's a little simplistic
52:24 <Avatar> he didn't make a mistake
52:43 <Avatar> the 'mistake' he made was trying to sneak attack in combat
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53:02 <Avatar> he ended up getting raised, for free
53:09 <Avatar> thanks to an extremely generous high level guy
53:27 <Avatar> hitomi actually very briefly died too
53:46 <Avatar> until it turned out someone from another table had healed everyone in the same round, and darkwhite ruled that it affected hitomi too
53:57 <Ballig> ha
55:13 <Spaceshot_> is this that multi-table battle?
55:27 <Avatar> yeah
55:30 <Spaceshot_> nice
55:32 <Avatar> it was pretty insane the entire time
55:45 <Ballig> is it all combat
55:48 <Avatar> kaleb died to an extremely extremely tough enemy
55:54 <Avatar> yeah pretty much
56:01 <Avatar> the story is quite good
56:17 <Ballig> just wondering what happens if table1 spends ages roleplaying between encounters
56:20 <Avatar> actually I lie, it's not all combat
56:23 <Ballig> and table2 starts a fight
56:26 <Avatar> there is a bit of other stuff
56:45 <Avatar> there is hardly any social stuff happening
56:47 <Avatar> a tiny bit
56:58 <Ballig> so its' basically a short novel with encounters?
57:05 <Ballig> like, the non-encounter bits are just the GM reading storylines out?
58:18 <Avatar> no there is a bit more
58:31 <Avatar> the parts you play aren't as lengthy as a normal scenario
58:36 <Ballig> so what happens if one table takes longer in those parts than the others
58:45 <Spaceshot_> it seems like combat would be constant because that's the only easy way to keep the timing in sync
58:50 <Avatar> there's a certain amount of time for each encounter
58:54 <Avatar> if you dont' finish in time, you move on
00:15 <Avatar> if you finish early, you wait it out a bit
00:58 <Spaceshot_> mmk
04:17 <Ballig> I officially hate acrobat
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06:20 <Avatar> yeah uh
06:23 <Avatar> apparently we can run it in here
06:31 <Ballig> yeah of course
06:33 <Ballig> why would you think you can't
06:33 <Avatar> but we'd need 12 people, 3 GMs and some venture captain permission
06:34 <Spaceshot> if we get enough people
06:50 <Spaceshot> I think dark white would permit it if mekkis was thinking of doing it
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07:03 <Avatar> I asked him, we can
07:18 <Avatar> I don't know if brunius is up to it, I think he is
07:42 <Avatar> we've got a lot of new scenarios under our belt to run now though
07:52 <Ballig> yeah
08:01 <Avatar> was getting a bit sick of GMing ones I hadn't played
08:14 <Ballig> if people had actually shown up this weekend I could've run some scenarios that you guys had already played before
08:19 <Ballig> like voice in the void and city of strangers 1
08:22 <Ballig> but no one showed up
08:23 <Avatar> yeah how did a game not happen this weekend
08:31 <Ballig> not even Thawne or Canine, even though they had no idea to know that CoTE couldn't go forward today
08:33 <Ballig> and that pisses me off
08:54 <Avatar> can find out from tristen what thawne's story is
09:09 <Avatar> canine should know bette
09:09 <Avatar> r
10:26 <Ballig> Thawne should too, I made sure he knew last weekend when Tristen mentioned Thawne might not be able to make it
11:02 <MekkisScreen> standing next to someone who can hit you on a 2 on each of a full attack, w
11:08 <Avatar> made sure thawne knew what
11:15 <Ballig> to tell us when he can't show up
11:29 <Avatar> Mekkis: you can't say that after the fact
11:55 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: that's also why I said you were being a little simplistic by simply saying "the mistake is ending your turn next to the enemy"
12:02 <Ballig> rogues and fighters and anything that melees without a reach weapon does that every encounter
12:19 <Avatar> even with a reach weapon
14:23 <MekkisScreen> Ballig, it's the 'sufficient AX' bit
14:28 <MekkisScreen> AC*
15:15 <MekkisScreen> your AC should be increasing as you level
15:44 <Ballig> you actually didn't mention sufficient AC at all
15:51 <MekkisScreen> as your enemies to-hit increases
15:59 <Ballig> and it's kind of hard to say "his mistake was not having an awesome enough character"
16:02 <MekkisScreen> standing next to someone who can hit you on a 2 on each of a full attack, 
16:11 <Ballig> yeah still didn't mention AC
16:17 <Ballig> also: that was your following explanation
16:22 <Ballig> your original statement was still simplistic
16:36 <Avatar> that's still an extremely weak argument for the character's death
16:43 <Avatar> it's not like the character was designed for this single encounter
16:57 <MekkisScreen> but it always happens
17:14 <Ballig> you can't say it's a mistake that your character had a combat flaw
17:24 <Ballig> you can say that's why he died, or contributed to it
17:30 <Ballig> but you can't say "he made a mistake. by having a shit character."
23:04 <Spaceshot> haha, if that's the case I've made many many mistakes in my DnD/RPGs in general gaming XD
23:19 <Avatar> yeah spaceshot, you should be munchkinning, god
23:29 <Avatar> like the rest of us should be
23:44 <Spaceshot> I know right, I should take a lame small oracle of nature with a mount
25:02 <Avatar> I will try and raise expressions of interest to run it
25:14 <Avatar> will check with brunius to see if he's game, first
26:43 <Spaceshot> avatar, you should make a nightmare v2 using aasimar
27:13 <Avatar> pass
27:22 <Ballig> I don't think we have enough regular players yet to run it
27:23 <Avatar> I will likely make an oracle or a druid with it
27:30 <Avatar> Ballig: yeah, I mean to get more
27:45 <Ballig> are there any advertising opportunities at those cons
27:46 <Ballig> I mean, legitimately
28:04 <Spaceshot> you'd think so
28:05 <Avatar> what do you mean legitimately
28:10 <Avatar> something official?
28:12 <Ballig> not just like walking around telling people
28:13 <Spaceshot> most generalised cons allow it
28:16 <Ballig> official would be best
28:21 <Avatar> not that I'm aware of
28:26 <Ballig> do they have sponsors?
28:31 <Avatar> no idea
28:34 <Avatar> so probably not
28:40 <Ballig> do people hand out flyers or have stalls of any kind
28:49 <Avatar> there's stalls where they sell shit
28:50 <Spaceshot> is it a commerical con?
28:52 <Avatar> not to advertise
28:59 <Ballig> were they selling shit this time
29:09 <Avatar> yeah, they always have stalls selling stuff
29:13 <Avatar> I bought an extra set of dice
29:18 <Avatar> unnecessarily, as it turns out
29:24 <Ballig> I thought you said the area was empty before
29:26 <Ballig> were they not selling every day
29:40 <Avatar> yeah the area I was looking at was empty until saturday
29:46 <Avatar> there was another area I didn't even look at 
29:49 <Avatar> didn't know it was there
29:50 <Ballig> ha
29:59 <Ballig> wonder if next time we can set up a stall there
30:02 <Ballig> probably an unmannd stall
30:04 <Ballig> +e
30:26 <Avatar> could advertise at tables we play at
30:39 <Avatar> did I mention I might have roped in another player
30:43 <Ballig> yeah you did mention
32:15 <Avatar> you can't hand out flyers
32:24 <Avatar> people don't particularly like being advertised to
32:29 <Ballig> no
32:31 <Ballig> but if you have a stall
32:37 <Ballig> which has the flyers, or information in some other way
32:40 <Ballig> people who are interested might take one
33:10 <Avatar> you might even need darkwhite's permission since it's the same system
33:17 <Avatar> not sure
33:26 <Ballig> I imagine you'd need the permission of the convention organisers
33:31 <Ballig> and probably have to pay a fee for the stall
33:52 <Ballig> but you wouldn't necessarily need "are you okay with this?' permission, because we're just a gaming group
34:00 <Avatar> maybe we could have a laptop set up where people could just immediately chat !!
34:08 <Ballig> ha I had considered that
34:16 <Avatar> they would say hello
34:21 <Avatar> and I would say, hey you, whoever you are
34:23 <Avatar> roll up a character
34:25 <Ballig> could have a laptop set up, a good map on CA
43:59 <Brunius> waaaas
44:34 <Ballig> so with Kaleb's death did we confirm whether or not you get the negative levels
44:48 <Brunius> Game for what?
44:57 <Brunius> No negative levels
45:10 <Avatar> game to run blood for absalom
45:14 <Avatar> blood under* absalom
45:17 <Brunius> The cleric cast raise dead and one restoration
45:26 <Brunius> and I paid for the other one with PA
45:57 <Brunius> Mmmm, I guess
45:58 <Ballig> ah so you DO get the negative levels
46:01 <Ballig> and have to get rid of them somehow
46:08 <Brunius> Yeah
46:09 <Ballig> okay, Avatar lied to me about that
46:15 <Avatar> no I didn't
46:21 <Ballig> you told me you don't get the negative levels in PFS
46:27 <Ballig> and I said "where does it say that" and you said you don't know you read it somewhere
46:39 <Avatar> I wasn't sure for a while
46:45 <Avatar> I was plenty sure before today
46:52 <Ballig> I didn't say when you lied to me
47:04 <Avatar> I didn't fucking lie
47:16 <Ballig> you told me something which was not true!
47:25 <Avatar> you tell me things that aren't true all the time
47:34 <Ballig> exactly
47:39 <Brunius> I'd be willing to run BuA I guess
47:45 <Avatar> okay
47:50 <Ballig> how much xp do you get for that
47:53 <Brunius> 1
47:54 <Avatar> 1
47:55 <Ballig> really
47:59 <Ballig> you risk death that badly and get 1 xp
48:00 <Brunius> Yes
48:08 <Avatar> the only reason to play it is because it is something different
48:13 <Avatar> there is a decent boon
48:24 <Brunius> Yeah it is a pretty good boon
48:26 <Ballig> is it a niche boon
48:30 <Avatar> ha, no
48:32 <Brunius> Nope
48:36 <Avatar> it's actually very un-niche
48:46 <Brunius> There are three, and you can choose which one you want !!
48:56 <Avatar> yeah it's the opposite of the other one
49:03 <Ballig> are they limited-use
49:06 <Brunius> Yes
49:10 <Ballig> I hated limited-use boons
49:13 <Ballig> hate
49:20 <Avatar> Brunius: don't talk about the quest for perfection one
49:36 <Brunius> Oh you're allowed to but I'm not?
49:40 <Brunius> I don't even know what it is man
49:43 <Avatar> I mean don't spoil it
49:49 <Avatar> thomas told you last night
49:55 <Avatar> weren't you listening
50:00 <Ballig> Avatar wants someone else to give up 1k gold to get it and then realise it sucks
50:01 <Avatar> hopefully you weren't
50:13 <Avatar> I already told you what I think of it
50:37 <Avatar> and then bloody thelen almost spoils it for mekkis
50:47 <Avatar> by showing him the chronicle sheet to get clarification
51:12 <Ballig> ha
51:21 <Ballig> trust Thelen
51:28 <Thelen> WHAT
51:28 <Thelen> not my fault
51:36 <Avatar> yeah that time wasn't
51:42 <Avatar> what about the other time you spoiled part 3
51:47 <Avatar> sorry, part 1
51:51 <Thelen> hahahahaha
51:54 <Thelen> u just made the same mistake i did
51:59 <Thelen> confused about modules :P
52:07 <Avatar> I just forgot which one it was
52:12 <Thelen> me to :P
52:13 <Avatar> I made certain not to reveal the actual spoiler
52:16 <Avatar> unlike some people
52:32 <Ballig> what was it he revealed
52:41 <Avatar> good 1
52:44 <Ballig> ;)
52:48 <Thelen> lol
52:51 <Thelen> it wasn't really a big deal
52:56 <Thelen> ppl already talked about it for 2 days
53:00 <Thelen> er, 2 sessio9ns
53:04 <Avatar> people hadn't played it man
53:10 <Thelen> yea i know
53:17 <Avatar> it is worse at a con because you overhear
53:27 <Avatar> and that's all people like to talk about
53:37 <Thelen> yea
53:38 <Avatar> remember when --- and ---- and --- happened? lol!
54:07 <Thelen> its mutual
54:17 <Thelen> talk to someone, risk spoilers >_>
54:30 <Avatar> some people are careful
55:18 <Avatar> bit of a risk trying to get new people in to run a 12 player module
55:35 <Avatar> already rules out everyone who went to arcanacon
56:01 <Ballig> I don't think you should actively try and get 12 people in for a 12 player module
56:09 <Ballig> just try to get new people in and if we end up with enough players, run the 12 player module
56:12 <Thelen> u can do it with 6 surely
56:14 <Thelen> and 1 dm
56:19 <Thelen> i see no need to multiple groups
56:33 <Thelen> except maybe the last round, where you know.. things happen
56:35 <Avatar> darkwhite said 3 tables
56:40 <Thelen> the others, it really doesn't carry over
56:43 <Thelen> yea well who cares
56:53 <Avatar> we can't access the module without official permission
56:54 <Thelen> if its on irc its already fairly informal
57:05 <Thelen> oh what?
57:05 <Avatar> it's not fairly informal
57:17 <Avatar> every scenario we do is organised play
58:12 <Ballig> you can do it
58:19 <Ballig> it's just that it isn't officially released until August 2012
58:28 <Avatar> is last year's one released
58:28 <Ballig> so to do it before then I imagine you require official permission
58:34 <Ballig> I think so, not sure what it's called
58:53 <Thelen> oh i thought you could just buy it from paizo
58:57 <Thelen> or whatever
58:58 <Ballig> year of the shadow lodge
59:00 <Ballig> it's available
59:05 <Thelen> yea it is, someone mentioned
59:06 <Ballig> Thelen: you can, in August
59:10 <Thelen> oh
59:16 <Thelen> so before then we'd need someone to give us a copy
59:17 <Thelen> i see
59:18 <Ballig> Year of the Shadow Lodge is available
59:27 <Thelen> yea steven actually now i think about, talked about doing in blackburn
59:32 <Thelen> think tristen was interested
59:41 <Thelen> or was it mekkis that said he could run it
59:43 <Thelen> hmm one of them
02:01 <Brunius> summun
02:08 <Ballig> sumwun
02:22 <Brunius> Man I want to make a dual pistol wielding gunslinger now
02:31 <Brunius> How many free actions can you make in a turn?
04:36 <Avatar> unlimited
04:49 <Ballig> not quite
04:55 <Ballig> actually, no that's close
04:59 <Ballig> it's swift actions you only get one of
05:19 <Brunius> Yeah
05:21 <Thelen> free action unlimited
05:26 <Brunius> Sweet
05:27 <Thelen> which is why technically all chars can talk all the time
05:30 <Thelen> *PCs
05:38 <Brunius> So I just need to reduce loading to a free action
05:52 <Thelen> yea ask Avatar how to do that
06:00 <Thelen> its a feat iirc
06:06 <Avatar> rapid reload
06:08 <Ballig> and make it so you can reload with one hand
06:10 <Ballig> I think that's the issue
06:17 <Avatar> yeah I don't know how it works with pistols exactly
06:21 <Avatar> you need some item 
06:27 <Ballig> pistols are already a move action aren't they
06:35 <Brunius> Yeah
06:36 <Avatar> pistols are a standard action
06:38 <Brunius> So just alchem cartridges?
06:39 <Avatar> rapid reload makes it a move action
06:40 <Ballig> so rapid reload + paper catridge
06:47 <Brunius> Sweet
06:48 <Avatar> paper catridges makes it free 
06:49 <Avatar> but
06:50 <Ballig> but I think the issue is you can't do it with one hand
06:52 <Avatar> you need two hands to reload
06:54 <Brunius> Quick draw
07:00 <Ballig> how does that help
07:03 <Avatar> quick draw won't help you
07:11 <Brunius> I can put the gun away and draw it as a free action?
07:17 <Brunius> Not sure about putting it away
07:17 <Brunius> hmm
07:21 <Avatar> I think there's a better way
07:24 <Avatar> find out what that item is
07:32 <Avatar> you can drop the weapon and pick it up as a free action I think
07:44 <Avatar> it's tied to your wrist I believe
07:50 <Ballig> draw but not sheathe, technically
08:07 <Brunius> Oh, what's that called
08:07 <Ballig> Avatar: weapon cord
08:09 <Brunius> Can't remember
08:10 <Brunius> Yeah
08:11 <Brunius> That's it
08:13 <Ballig> from APG
08:13 <Avatar> weapon cord sounds right
08:27 <Avatar> most pistol users take the pistolero archetype
08:34 <Avatar> I can't speak for it, I haven't had a look
08:39 <Avatar> the range on the pistols pissed me off
08:49 <Ballig> it's a swift action to recover a gun though
08:57 <Ballig> that you drop with a weapon cord
10:52 <Avatar> if you create a broken build, I won't let you play
11:04 <Brunius> That's not very nice
11:10 <Brunius> We let you play Buck
11:16 <Brunius> :P
11:26 <Avatar> Buck isn't broken
11:42 <Brunius> If anyone here happens to have an APG they want to get rid of cheap, I'll take it :)
11:46 <Brunius> ISWG too
11:55 <Ballig> I just bought the ISWG
11:57 <Ballig> but it's PDF
12:06 <Brunius> lolpdf
12:14 <Ballig> pdf is superior
12:15 <Brunius> I'm looking at getting something to read pdfs
12:33 <Brunius> I think the main thing that annoys me about pdfs is that I have to scroll to read tem
12:34 <Thelen> acrobat?
12:35 <Brunius> them
12:46 <Thelen> although its so damn slow with it
12:46 <Brunius> Like an ebook reader Thelen
12:49 <Thelen> oh
13:02 <Brunius> Most are too small to use comfortably though
13:08 <Thelen> ah
13:10 <Brunius> Gotta squint at the print
13:26 <Ballig> you will need more than an ebook reader for paizo PDFs
13:30 <Ballig> you will need a tablet, minimum
13:42 <Brunius> I've read scenarios on an ebook reader
14:01 <Brunius> Man what the hell did my siblings do to this screen while I was at arcanacon
14:16 <Brunius> I will buy a slave, and get him to reload my firearms
14:39 <Brunius> As a cheliaxian, of course
14:44 <Ballig> just have 20 pistols
14:47 <Ballig> with quick draw
14:48 <Brunius> Ha
14:51 <Ballig> and drop them
14:51 <Avatar> haha
14:57 <Brunius> BAM, throw, BAM, throw, BAM, throw
14:58 <Avatar> they only cost about 1000gp each
15:09 <Brunius> Yeah :S
15:17 <Ballig> don't you get them for half price as a gunslinger
15:25 <Avatar> do you, I dunno
15:31 <Avatar> I've never bought a gun before
15:34 <Brunius> Let me consult my trusty ultimate combat
16:03 <Avatar> I only just figured out that I don't need to spend bullets and black powder whenever I use alch paper catridges
16:11 <Brunius> Doesn't say anything about it
16:20 <Avatar> it'd be under the gunsmithing feat
16:40 <Brunius> I'm looking at that now
16:44 <Brunius> Nothing I can see
16:58 <Ballig> I'm assuming it's the same rule that works for ammunition
17:21 <Brunius> Gunsmithing does not grant the ability to craft firearms, ammunition, or black powder. Rather, it allows the purchase of bullets, pellets, black powder, and alchemical cartridges (with 1 rank in Craft [alchemy]) at the listed reduced price, but does not grant a discount on the purchase of any firearm. 
17:31 <Brunius> (From http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/resources )
17:39 <Ballig> yeah I just read it
17:50 <Brunius> So not on firearms
18:09 <Brunius> Man as if they don't allow spellslinger for PFS
18:12 <Brunius> That would be so cool
18:21 <Avatar> I wanted to play a holy gun
18:22 <Ballig> they don't allow anything that lets non-gunslingers use guns
18:26 <Avatar> bit shit
18:42 <Brunius> Avatar: Maybe you should play in my campaign!
19:03 <Avatar> not that shit
19:26 <Brunius> Dammit
19:43 <Avatar> I need my sweet exp
21:44 <Hydrazine> Brunius has a campaign?
21:52 <Brunius> Not yet
22:17 <Brunius> I'm gonna run Skulls and Shackles if there's sufficient interest
23:40 <Hydrazine> Cool. Probably too big for me though, huh?
24:06 <Brunius> What do you mean?
24:43 <Hydrazine> Not everything you should bring level 1s to.
25:28 <Brunius> <Avatar> will check with brunius to see if he's game, first
25:47 <Avatar> `op
25:48 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
25:49 <Brunius> It'll start off at level 1
26:14 <Hydrazine> Well, I'd go if the timing's good.
26:24 <Hydrazine> Hasn't been lately. At all
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26:39 <Ballig> I need to email thawne and canine and yell at them
26:56 <Avatar> did canine see the topic?
26:58 <Brunius> Do it
27:08 <Avatar> mayne he saw a new game was happening on sunday
27:40 <Ballig> he was in on thursday
27:48 <Ballig> it didn't say sunday until yesterday
28:28 <Avatar> you sure?
28:50 <Avatar> I thought I put it in like last week
28:56 <Avatar> or early this week
29:42 <Ballig> no I put it in
29:50 <Ballig> it did say thursday
29:57 <Ballig> but we played wednesday night instead
30:00 <Ballig> so I changed it to saturday
30:08 <Ballig> but then no one was here, so I changed it to sunday
30:35 <Brunius> Man Avatar is popping up all over the paizo site
33:02 <Avatar> yeah i'm pretty popular
34:15 <Brunius> You're just commenting everywhere
34:25 <Brunius> Whenever I go to post something, you've been there already
34:31 <Avatar> that's what community is about
34:44 <Hydrazine> Getting in Brunius' way?
34:47 <Hydrazine> Exactly!
34:56 <Avatar> :o)
39:08 <Brunius> I will make this duel wield pistol idea work
39:16 <Brunius> Because that will be cool
40:55 <Avatar> it is a very fun class to play
41:17 <Ballig> and he no longer thinks lance charging is overpowered
41:24 <Avatar> mekkis gave me a very valid warning about playing witch
41:25 <Ballig> because he's playing something that is more powerful
41:38 <Avatar> apparently someone at the con had a witch and all they do in combat is cackle
41:46 <Avatar> which I could easily easily see myself doing
41:58 <Ballig> that's fine if the hex is worth spending continued actions extending
42:07 <Avatar> it always is man
42:17 <Brunius> Ohhhh
42:20 <Avatar> misfortune forces taking worst reroll
42:26 <Avatar> that doesn't get worse at higher levels
42:27 <Brunius> Two levels of alchemist gives me a third arm!
42:34 <Avatar> oh god
42:40 <Ballig> be careful of the third arm
42:45 <Avatar> have you not been here for the time we've been talking about that with spaceshot
42:50 <Brunius> Don't think so
42:51 <Avatar> for the past month or two
42:56 <Ballig> it's poorly written
43:00 <Avatar> you can't use it for a weapon
43:13 <Ballig> you probably can, but it will cause issues
43:15 <Ballig> especially later on
43:30 <Ballig> I expect it to be erratad
43:46 <Avatar> I wouldn't
43:51 <Avatar> paizo are lazy bastard
43:51 <Avatar> s
44:02 <Avatar> have you seen the erratas for the summoner
44:03 <Ballig> I don't know how quickly it'll be erratad
44:06 <Ballig> but I expect it eventually
44:07 <Avatar> it's a fucking joke
44:18 <Avatar> there's nothing but the most obvious questions there
44:23 <Avatar> and only about 5 of those
44:29 <Ballig> that's FAQ, not errata
44:40 <Avatar> w/e
45:49 <Avatar> I think blood under absalom required more multi-table teamwork than what we were doing
45:57 <Brunius> Yeah
46:08 <Avatar> like I didn't realise we could just go run to another table to ask for a heal
46:12 <Brunius> It's be easier on IRC I think
46:13 <Avatar> until the 11th hour
46:17 <Avatar> yeah for sure
46:33 <Ballig> especially with CA!
46:34 <Ballig> :p
46:47 <Brunius> Because we can all stay in here, and have #Blood1 and #Blood2 etc. for tables, and just yell out in here when help is needed
46:56 <Ballig> although multiple GMs on CA might be an issue
47:04 <Avatar> shouldn't
47:05 <Brunius> Ballig: Can you make it so multiple GMs can edit CA?
47:06 <Avatar> use different ports
47:18 <Ballig> Avatar: I mean if you want the whole scene on the one CA
47:23 <Ballig> Brunius: maybe
47:30 <Ballig> well, that's not quite true
47:32 <Avatar> you don't
47:36 <Avatar> you only see one scene
47:37 <Ballig> Brunius: yes, but the effort might be extensive
47:50 <Avatar> it looks to each table like you're the only ones playing
47:51 <Brunius> Yeah
47:57 <Ballig> Avatar: but it doesn't have to
48:08 <Avatar> well it sort of does
48:10 <Ballig> why?
48:12 <Avatar> that's how it works mechanically
48:15 <Ballig> weren't we just talking about more cooperation?
48:25 <Avatar> no it doesn't work like that because uh
48:31 <Avatar> like you might be fighting two guys
48:37 <Avatar> and another table might be fighting two guys
48:40 <Ballig> right
48:48 <Avatar> but you dont fight the weaker guys on the higher tier table
48:56 <Avatar> and then have the lower tier guys help out with the higher tiers
48:59 <Ballig> yeah, you just say "you can't attack them"
49:12 <Avatar> that's dumb, why would you bother
49:23 <Ballig> so you can see where everyone is respective to everyone else
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49:28 <Brunius> We were shooting lower tier guys when they needed help
49:28 <Ballig> and you will cooperate more
49:45 <Ballig> see there you go, Brunius' table WAS attacking lower tier
49:46 <Brunius> Apparently the low tier table was having trouble, so buck gave them some touch AC shooting
49:56 <Brunius> Goddamn Buck
49:59 <Avatar> doesn't work like that
50:01 <Brunius> We did that once I think?
50:02 <tristen> lol yeah i remember that
50:04 <Ballig> Brunius just said you did
50:16 <Avatar> right but 
50:16 <Ballig> how doesn't it work like that if that's exactly what you did
50:22 <Avatar> I don't have to move over there to do the damage
50:28 <Ballig> okay?
50:32 <Ballig> not seeing your point
50:37 <Avatar> so it wouldn't work
50:40 <Ballig> uh?
50:43 <Ballig> not seeing your point
50:50 <Avatar> my point is it wouldn't work
50:53 <Ballig> what wouldn't?
50:56 <Ballig> exactly what you did?
51:00 <Avatar> what you're talking about doing in CA
51:08 <Ballig> having the entire, three table scene visible to everyone at once
51:35 <Avatar> I dunno, it's hard to explain
51:49 <Ballig> seems to me like the fights interact enough with each other that it would actually be logical to do that
52:01 <tristen> weren't we like overlayed or something?
52:07 <Ballig> right
52:18 <Avatar> I'm thinking of the section where we were
52:24 <Brunius> We were, but it was only for AoE I think
52:33 <Avatar> I could see it making gameplay awkward
52:33 <Ballig> but you could also cast spells on other people
52:37 <Ballig> like if you can go to the other table and ask for a heal
52:40 <Ballig> are you only asking for an AoE heal?
52:43 <Avatar> yeah but the usual rules for it don't apply
52:44 <Ballig> or can they target you?
53:08 <Brunius> They can target you, but you didn't see everyone on the map
53:09 <Avatar> yeah, AoE heals
53:18 <Brunius> I got raise dead'd
53:26 <Avatar> yeah, after the scenario
53:27 <Ballig> yeah so it's not just for AoE
53:36 <Ballig> even if it IS just for AoE
53:41 <Ballig> knowing where everyone is would make that pretty useful, wouldn't it
53:48 <Brunius> I got raise dead'd after the combat though
53:49 <Avatar> no
53:52 <Ballig> it's impossible to do in-game, but not online
53:59 <Ballig> er, in-game/in-person
54:01 <Avatar> there was one instance I remember where it would have been useful
54:17 <Ballig> you just said more cooperation would've been useful through the entire thing
54:18 <Avatar> there was a specific square that was targetted with an AoE
54:21 <Ballig> this encourages cooperation
57:25 <Thelen> what you'd do
57:27 <Brunius> I could dip a level in wizard/sorceror to get reloading hands
57:28 <Thelen> is 1 colour per team
57:30 <Thelen> then number then
57:31 <Thelen> them
57:39 <Thelen> or first letter (probably numer due to dupes)
57:45 <Thelen> and red for enemy
57:51 <Thelen> oh wait
57:51 <tristen> does anyone want to ask me how impossible that was at the lower tier?
58:00 <tristen> oh wait i just did
58:01 <Brunius> How impossible was it at the lower tier tristen?
58:23 <tristen> can i say it was "very impossible"?
58:27 <Brunius> We were steamrolling them in 7-8
58:41 <Thelen> 7-8?
58:44 <Brunius> I think Kaleb is severely underpowered
58:44 <Thelen> the high high table?
58:46 <Avatar> guys
58:46 <Avatar> spoilers
58:48 <Brunius> 5-6 rather
58:54 <Thelen> oh yea u were with me
58:55 <Thelen> :P
58:57 <Brunius> We're saying it was hard Avatar
59:08 <Brunius> That can be said of many scenarios
59:10 <Thelen> yea lots of the encounters were stupid
59:21 <Thelen> they obviously didn't test them with normal chars
59:25 <Brunius> (Bloody Darkest Vengeanse)
59:34 <Brunius> Vengeance even
59:36 <Thelen> only with a bunch of Golshchrims
59:49 <Brunius> Bloody Grolschmir
00:01 <Thelen> yea that
00:01 <Thelen> :P:
00:13 <tristen> Grolschmir is the baconator
00:48 <Ballig> if he was legal, sure
01:29 <tristen> oh i've no doubt he was legal
01:36 <Ballig> he's not
01:40 <Brunius> DO rocs have a shoulder slot?
01:44 <Ballig> nope
02:50 <tristen> trivially illegal or severely illegal?
03:03 <Ballig> only flies because of an illegality
03:04 <Ballig> :p
03:05 <Brunius> Where are the slots listed?
03:20 <Ballig> there is no official word on it, except that of a dev that says animal companions should only have barding and a neck slot
03:36 <Brunius> In the forums?
03:40 <tristen> what would he have to do to ensure legality?
03:40 <Ballig> yeah
03:42 <Brunius> Everyone knows the forums don't count man
03:43 <Ballig> like I said, no official word
03:48 <Ballig> but if GMs audited the character properly they wouldn't allow it
04:11 <tristen> actually a guy was playing a ranger/sniper class in our room today
04:15 <Brunius> You should "[audit] the character properly"
04:16 <Ballig> Brunius: the word of a dev, even on the forums, can be taken into account by any GM when deciding if a character is legal
04:17 <tristen> didn't have the book
04:33 <tristen> *but he didn't have the book
04:39 <Brunius> Uh-oh
04:53 <tristen> pdf $10
04:54 <Brunius> What did ryan think of that?
04:58 <tristen> legal character: priceless
05:07 <tristen> well he pulled him up
05:14 <tristen> and relayed it to management
05:18 <tristen> and let him continue playing
05:30 <tristen> but i think there were complications with the chronicle sheet
05:41 <tristen> i don't know how they resolved it, if at all
06:06 <Thelen> who was that with?
06:19 <Thelen> oh ranger/sniper
06:32 <tristen> yeah, can't remember the name of the guy...
06:40 <Thelen> was it the asian guy?
07:07 <tristen> no - he was the bloke that kept getting cranky at the dm because he didn't like the rules :D
07:12 <Thelen> oh
07:14 <Thelen> lol
07:19 <Brunius> Andrew?
07:20 <Thelen> hah i saw him when i was leaving
07:25 <Thelen> blue shirt
07:28 <Thelen> old guy, glasses?
07:51 <Ballig> so did you all recruit one other player for our channel
07:54 <Avatar> that's john I think
07:58 <Avatar> not the john we usually talk about
07:59 <tristen> hmmm, our definitions of "old guy" differ. blonde hair?
08:34 <tristen> ballig: i think so, not sure if they'll show or not
08:43 <Brunius> Thomas was sorta recruited
08:50 <Avatar> if you ever see me talking about the possibility of GMing at a con, remind me that I don't want to
08:58 <Ballig> ha
09:07 <Ballig> I think you'd get eaten alive :p
09:16 <Avatar> no it's not that
09:33 <Avatar> it's just that players can be dickier in person and there really isn't any escape
09:43 <Avatar> I don't have high tolerance levels
10:05 <Ballig> I don't know that it's necessarily "dickier in person"
10:10 <Ballig> I think it's that most of the people here are regulars
10:13 <tristen> well i'll go out on a limb and say that guy (whoever he was) was a bit of a dick
10:19 <Ballig> but when it's a con, and you think you're not going to have to see/play with the person again, you are dickier
10:33 <tristen> at one stage he said to tomas: turn to page 12 and it says "you are a dick"
11:04 <Avatar> haha
11:04 <tristen> he's lucky we weren't down the pub...
11:20 <Avatar> the people I'm talking about weren't even that bad
11:32 <Avatar> what a fine example
11:42 <Ballig> thomas was a dick?
11:51 <Avatar> I thought ryan had some serious guts DMing for that other crew last night
11:53 <tristen> no thomas was certainly not a dick
11:56 <Avatar> thomas isn't a dick
12:23 <tristen> thomas is freaking awesome - i played a few really enjoyable scenarios with the lad
12:44 <Avatar> I expect he'd actually be better online than he is in person
13:10 <Brunius> Probably
13:22 <tristen> well he's a bit brain-mouth, but hey he's a good laugh
13:34 <Avatar> yeah
13:59 <Ballig> how come he hasn't been on yet
14:15 <Avatar> I hadn't played with him before this con
14:30 <Avatar> mekkis considered he'd be good but never got him on
14:31 <Brunius> He's been at previous cons, but I hadn't played with him
14:36 <tristen> hey avatar are you happy with buck's progression?
14:43 <Avatar> fuck yeah
14:44 <tristen> did you play him 100%?
14:48 <Avatar> the money situation is a problem
14:52 <Avatar> I did play him 100%
14:57 <tristen> nice 
15:09 <tristen> the money situation is always a problem D:
15:11 <Brunius> ikr
15:14 <tristen> soz :D
15:16 <Avatar> I think I can afford that shoot-underwater item now
15:22 <Brunius> It's 4000 I think
15:23 <tristen> GET OUT OF TOWN?
15:29 <Avatar> not sure
15:37 <tristen> bring on the underwater scenario
15:37 <Avatar> I didn't quite understand
15:42 <Avatar> it's actually 2 items I think
15:47 <Avatar> 2000 for the dry load powder horn
15:54 <Avatar> and then you pay more for some other dry load thing
16:09 <tristen> *snorkel not included?
16:18 <Avatar> it's still not great
16:19 <Brunius> What's the other one for?
16:26 <Avatar> projectiles hit range increments fast underwater
16:38 <tristen> yeah we've all seen mythbusters
16:41 <Brunius> You can apply dry load to projectiles
16:47 <Avatar> -1 per 5ft
16:51 <Brunius> tristen: -2 for 5ft
16:56 <Avatar> I don't think touch attack applies either
16:56 <Brunius> It's -2 man
16:59 <Brunius> Page 141
17:02 <Avatar> is it
17:04 <Brunius> Bottom right
17:12 <Brunius> Ultimate Combat 141
17:25 <Avatar> yeah
17:45 <Avatar> yeah 30gp per bullet fired with it
18:14 <Avatar> not too bad
18:15 <Brunius> Pretty expensive
18:24 <Avatar> seems cheaper to use a crossbow if I can't use touch
18:34 <Brunius> If I were a DM, I'd put constructs underwater
18:38 <Brunius> Just for the gunslinger
18:43 <Brunius> 90gp a shot
18:48 <Avatar> maybe you should write a scenario
18:54 <Avatar> that's what i'm doing
18:56 <Brunius> Maybe!
19:04 <Avatar> you think I am joking
19:06 <Avatar> I am serious
19:15 <Brunius> Snipin's a good job mate
19:22 <Avatar> killer matt's character was fucking hilarious
19:23 <Brunius> Out of doors, challengin' work
19:27 <Avatar> couldn't stop laughing the entire time
19:32 <Brunius> Oh?
19:52 <Avatar> he does a perfect ulfen accent and plays it hardcore
19:59 <Brunius> Man how many things did you get tristen?
20:04 <Brunius> For boons?
20:10 <Brunius> Like 4 or something wasn't it?
20:53 <Avatar> I couldn't create a cleric fast enough with that aasimar if I didn't already have one
21:07 <Thelen> Avatar you got assimar too?
21:10 <Avatar> yeah
21:13 <Thelen> ah
21:15 <Thelen> lots of them and tengu
21:17 <Brunius> I'll take aasimar off your hands if you don't want it
21:21 <Brunius> :)
21:25 <Ballig> I think Avatar swapped his tengu
21:27 <Avatar> what class would you make
21:30 <Brunius> Gunslinger
21:31 <Avatar> yeah my tengu is gone
21:37 <Avatar> the guy I gave the tengu to, got another tengu
21:38 <Brunius> I don't know, let me look up the stats
21:44 <Avatar> so he had to try and get rid of mine
22:19 <Ballig> he could have made two tengu
22:44 <Brunius> He didn't want to
23:03 <Avatar> I will probably make a druid
23:14 <Avatar> I will have to have another look at the class, because I don't really know it at all
23:21 <Avatar> oracle, if that doesn't work
23:45 <Avatar> I had an extremely brief look at inquisitor
24:05 <Ballig> go druid
24:22 <Brunius> Get a roc
24:38 <Thelen> i plan to make wizzard
24:39 <Thelen> then sorc
24:40 <Avatar> ha
24:42 <Thelen> then cleric
24:49 <Thelen> with a certain aasimar
25:05 <Avatar> you don't want to do wizard then sorc
25:06 <Thelen> hopefully by then i'll be experienced enough not to let him die
25:08 <Avatar> do one or the other
25:17 <Spaceshot> I'm making the deaf oracle, don't take my spot
25:18 <Thelen> well the more exp the better
25:20 <Brunius> That special was pretty brutal
25:32 <Thelen> that special was made by either morons, or people that power game
25:35 <Thelen> and did no testing either way
25:44 <Avatar> i'm pretty sure we didn't cooperate multi-table enough
25:49 <Thelen> partly
25:55 <Thelen> we had to make 19/20s to even hit...
25:56 <Avatar> it was just so different to what we're used to
26:09 <Avatar> you just needed to do something different man
26:15 <Thelen> like what
26:18 <Avatar> walking up and hitting with your sword isn't always going to work
26:26 <Thelen> it was the highest attack bonus i had
26:33 <Brunius> Spaceshot, I've decided I don't want those Guard
26:35 <Thelen> somehow i doubt i could grapple :P
26:41 <Thelen> they had 27 CMD too
26:42 <Avatar> have you had a good look over magic items
26:46 <Thelen> nah
27:05 <Avatar> playing a spellcaster might be good for you
27:27 <Spaceshot> Brunius: wha?
27:33 <Avatar> you don't want to play two almost identical casters though
27:42 <Brunius> I don't want to buy those Guard anymore
27:46 <Avatar> wizard and witch are less identical and I didn't even want to play them together
27:55 <Spaceshot> Brunius: any reason why?
28:04 <Brunius> Not interested in warhams anymore.
28:16 <Spaceshot> people at school not playing it anymore?
28:34 <Brunius> No, I am, I just wanted to see your reaction to my saying I wouldn't pay
28:39 <Thelen> i thought sorc and wiz were different
28:40 <Thelen> whatever
28:47 <Thelen> i just wanna do massive damage
28:48 <Avatar> cleric and sorc/wiz are different
28:49 <Brunius> sorc and wiz are
28:54 <Brunius> sorc has more spells/day
28:56 <Avatar> because they are divine and arcane, respectively
28:58 <Brunius> wiz knows more
28:59 <Spaceshot> so in short, you were being a cock?
28:59 <Thelen> ic
29:04 <Brunius> Pretty much :)
29:09 <Spaceshot> XD
29:27 <Thelen> warhammer pff
29:30 <Spaceshot> your friend still buying the Tau?
29:39 <Thelen> i like the idea of it
29:40 <Spaceshot> warhammer is a bit average, 40k is good
29:45 <Thelen> ./40k
29:49 <Thelen> but even 40k
29:51 <Thelen> too much rule BSW
29:52 <Brunius> I'll check
30:00 <Thelen> so unless you're both middle grade players
30:02 <Thelen> its just stupid
30:03 <Spaceshot> BSW?
30:06 <Thelen> BS*
30:08 <Spaceshot> oh
30:14 <Spaceshot> yea there is a bit of rules BS
30:28 <Spaceshot> but unless you're playing with rules lawyers, it's fun
30:35 <Thelen> yup
30:42 <Thelen> and once people are experienced
30:44 <Thelen> they are all rules lawyers
30:47 <Thelen> even the nice guys
30:58 <Thelen> who don't mind losing
31:00 <Spaceshot> hahaha
31:07 <Thelen> they just can't help themselves
31:27 <Brunius> I can't even remember the rules, let alone lawyer them
31:31 <Thelen> i don't mind if people want to play by the rules
31:42 <Thelen> as long as its fun
32:05 <Avatar> I still might just make Snake an aasimar and abandon the mount eidolon idea
32:11 <Thelen> lol
32:14 <Brunius> Can't, Avatar
32:16 <Thelen> u finished QOP yea?
32:18 <Avatar> but Snake is an experimental character
32:27 <Brunius> The Race boon has to be the first chronicle shet
32:27 <Avatar> I've only played one game with him brunius
32:28 <Brunius> sheet
32:31 <Avatar> he's technically a pregen
32:35 <Brunius> Technically?
32:46 <Avatar> well I did build him didn't I
32:55 <Brunius> Spaceshot: That's a confirmed off my Tau friend
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33:25 <Thelen> ITS AN IMPOSTER
33:35 <Brunius> He prolly just crashed
33:37 <Brunius> Give him a break
33:59 <Thelen> yea the virus iirc
34:03 <Thelen> oh wait, nvm
34:15 <Thelen> who was the other young kid?
34:17 <Spaceshot_> wha? I'm back
34:21 <Spaceshot_> so thats a yes brunius?
34:26 <Brunius> Yes
34:33 <Spaceshot_> cool cool
34:34 <Brunius> What Thelen?
34:49 <Thelen> there was u
34:54 <Thelen> and then another guy, slightly taller and thinner
34:56 <Thelen> also u18
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35:05 <Thelen> kindof speech impediment
35:09 <Avatar> it'd be good if you could replay blood under absalom and still get credit
35:11 <Thelen> thomas?
35:15 <Avatar> there's really no reason you shouldn't be able to
35:26 <Brunius> Thomas, Thelen
35:35 <Thelen> yea
35:42 <Avatar> thomas doesn't have a speech impediment
35:44 <Thelen> his pc had the virus >_>
35:55 <Brunius> He was stuttering a bit, Avatar
36:00 <Thelen> the thing where you repeat last word of sentence
36:02 <Thelen> on your next one
36:07 <Thelen> the massive tall guy with yellow shirt
36:10 <Thelen> had it a bit too :P
36:13 <Avatar> pretty sure that's more nervousness than a speech impediment
36:22 <Thelen> nah
36:28 <Thelen> i had a friend with it
36:33 <Brunius> Liam, Thelen
36:34 <Thelen> its some stuttering thing
36:36 <Thelen> the big guy?
36:50 <Brunius> He was wearing a yellow shirt
36:53 <Thelen> yea
36:57 <Avatar> I think we are talking about different people
36:59 <Thelen> he told us about breaking the object
37:04 <Thelen> and removing the thing
37:12 <Brunius> Yeah
37:15 <Brunius> That was Liam I think
37:16 <Thelen> was funy
37:18 <Thelen> him next to matt
37:21 <Thelen> next to justin standing on table
37:25 <Thelen> he and steve*
37:28 <Thelen> were like same height
37:28 <Thelen> lol
38:03 <Thelen> that last boon we got is so useless
38:04 <Thelen> 2 uses
38:19 <Avatar> it's not useless
38:35 <tristen> avatar: have you guys considered bard for that assimar thingie?
38:36 <Avatar> I don't even know if I should go into detail on why it's not useless
38:44 <Avatar> I did consider bard
38:45 <Thelen> well compared to say an extra trait
38:49 <Avatar> but I consider bards fairly crap
38:49 <Thelen> or permenant CMB
38:59 <Avatar> and i've already had one before, briefly
39:04 <Avatar> before mekkis ran the hardest PFS scenario there is
39:10 <Thelen> lol
39:11 <Avatar> for our second scenario
39:12 <Thelen> what was that?
39:14 <Brunius> Goddamn Vengeance
39:17 <Avatar> the darkest vengeance
39:21 <Thelen> :/
39:25 <Brunius> We aren't gonna stop bitching about that, are we?
39:28 <Avatar> it's impossible to win
39:35 <tristen> yep, just saying - lotsa cha/wis-related class skills
39:40 <Thelen> u need grolshcrmir
39:41 <Avatar> you have a chance if you know what is supposed to happen by reading the book
39:52 <Avatar> but even then it's not really likely
39:56 <Avatar> at least not at tier 1-2
40:15 <tristen> ima thinking of getting another lvl 1 char in the wings
40:56 <tristen> is anyone playing a barbarian atm?
41:02 <Avatar> nope
41:02 <Thelen> im thinking of it
41:08 <Thelen> for tanking
41:08 <Avatar> barbarians are usually good to multiclass into
41:22 <Avatar> one or two levels of it are a good dip
41:35 <Thelen> for what attributes?
41:44 <Avatar> rage
41:46 <Avatar> and uh
41:47 <tristen> rogue/barbarian = fucking cool i reckon
41:55 <Thelen> uhm
41:55 <Thelen> yea
41:58 <Avatar> fast movement
41:59 <Thelen> big as fuck, trying to sneak?
41:59 <Thelen> lol
42:00 <Thelen> >_>
42:05 <Brunius> Grolschmir would have been nerfed
42:13 <Brunius> because it was a low ceiling
42:14 <Spaceshot_> vivisectionist alchemist/barb is awesome
42:16 <Thelen> whats the smallest char u can have?
42:17 <Hydrazine> I don't think anyone's playing a barb. that'd be cool.
42:21 <Avatar> barbarians got better in pathfinder with the rage powers, but I don't know anything about them
42:21 <Brunius> small, thelen
42:23 <Spaceshot_> you get 2 rages that stack and sneak attack
42:31 <Thelen> damn
42:39 <Avatar> I don't think they are good as a pure class
42:42 <Thelen> i wanted to play even smaller
42:51 <Thelen> for a certain reason
42:54 <Avatar> darkwhite was talking about a ranger/witch he has
42:55 <Thelen> but that doesn't matter i guess :(
42:57 <Avatar> which is apparently really good
43:02 <Thelen> = steven?
43:18 <Avatar> yeah
43:22 <Thelen> ooo he was talking about that
43:23 <Avatar> stephen
43:29 <Brunius> Stephen White = Darkwhite
43:32 <Thelen> ah
43:41 <Thelen> apparently its very interesting
43:54 <Spaceshot_> half elf?
44:38 <Brunius> Oh, I heard you're coming to conquest Spaceshot?
44:44 <Avatar> maybe I can make a multiclass something with that aasimar to appease the stat bonuses
45:05 <Spaceshot_> when is conquest?
45:14 <tristen> ~two months?
45:15 <Brunius> April
45:19 <Avatar> easter
45:20 <tristen> ah yeah easter
45:24 <Ballig> Avatar: oracle/sorcerer?
45:24 <Spaceshot_> oh, probably
45:27 <tristen> south yarra
45:33 <Thelen> mmm i will come to that :D
45:38 <tristen> do they have air-conditioning there? :D
45:39 <Thelen> same guys winning?
45:41 <Thelen> er, running
45:50 <Brunius> lol great online store: http://www1.realmoflegends.com.au/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=66&vmcchk=1&Itemid=66
45:56 <Brunius> Yeah Thelen, tristen
46:05 <Spaceshot_> I would prefer to go with 40k, but I doubt I'd have anything ready by then
46:08 <Ballig> although they're both charisma
46:11 <Avatar> Ballig: yeah maybe
46:11 <Brunius> It's in Melbourne High School, and that's a bloody expensive private school
46:23 <tristen> ballig are you coming down for this con-thingie at easter?
46:30 <Ballig> unlikely
46:31 <tristen> i think you better
46:34 <tristen> no?
46:35 <Avatar> melbourne high school is a much better venue than collingwood college
46:36 <Brunius> Yeah man you should come down to Conquest
46:37 <Ballig> I tend not to take time off work for conventions
46:47 <Avatar> yeah I won't be doing another 4-day thing
46:52 <Avatar> unless I am still out of work by april
46:55 <Brunius> 4 days is exhausting
46:56 <Thelen> yea 4 days a bit harsdh
46:57 <tristen> it's easter man, easter.
47:05 <tristen> 4 days i'm just warming up
47:07 <Thelen> but lack of AC
47:07 <Ballig> I'd still have to take time off work
47:10 <Avatar> I'm glad I did it this time just to see what it was like
47:10 <Thelen> definitely didn't help
47:13 <Ballig> unless it starts on the saturday and ends on the sunday
47:19 <Brunius> I think I was fading out last night
47:21 <Thelen> its 4 days
47:29 <Thelen> yea Brunius you looked a bit pooper
48:00 <Avatar> I was surprised we finished so early 
48:29 <tristen> i must say today was the day i enjoyed the least
48:39 <Avatar> too hard?
48:42 <tristen> no spirit of adventure
48:51 <Avatar> just didn't like the style?
48:57 <tristen> too hard too 
49:05 <Thelen> yea
49:07 <Thelen> the time constraints
49:15 <Thelen> and general lack of preparation
49:16 <Avatar> it was pretty intense
49:18 <Thelen> no fault of the DM of course
49:32 <Thelen> i expect if it was run without interuptions, the pace would have worker
49:33 <Thelen> worked
49:34 <Avatar> do you mean planning
49:36 <Thelen> yes
49:55 <Thelen> yea tristen that room you guys got stuck in was stupidly har
50:04 <Thelen> we were level 4-5 and had some trouble
50:09 <Brunius> Man cheapest place I've seen for pathfinder so far is amazon, and they kill you on shipping
50:14 <Avatar> I think you're supposed to adapt what you've learnt about the game and put them into a new set of rules 
50:18 <Avatar> that you have to sort of pick up on the spot
50:25 <tristen> there was nothing any of us could do to overcome the magic stuff
50:29 <Thelen> yea
50:43 <Avatar> Brunius: what did you think of it
50:44 <Thelen> we got owned similarly in that other encounter
50:51 <tristen> the room with the gong onwards was therefore just plain old crap for us
50:59 <Thelen> aye
51:01 <Brunius> It was good, but I think I would have enjoyed it more on a better character
51:08 <Thelen> although, we trounced another one
51:09 <Brunius> Kaleb really is rather underpowered if I don't get my flanks
51:14 <Thelen> the ambush, we ambushed them
51:17 <Thelen> i crited
51:19 <Avatar> yeah
51:19 <Thelen> and cleaved
51:23 <Thelen> er, ready attack
51:23 <tristen> XD
51:26 <Thelen> then normal
51:28 <Thelen> took out 2 guys
51:28 <Thelen> lol
51:36 <Avatar> maybe potions of displacement would have saved you
51:51 <Thelen> i feel rogue and sneak attack are very weak
51:58 <Thelen> u just dont do enough damage
52:02 <Thelen> *rogues
52:13 <Hydrazine> its also really dependant on what you're fighting.
52:14 <tristen> oh i dunno 2d6 at level 3 is pretty nice
52:25 <Thelen> + what dmg
52:32 <Thelen> and what ac
52:33 <Hydrazine> It is. 3d6 if you can get teamwork feats going.
52:36 <tristen> str for leis
52:38 <Brunius> Hmm do mind games have an online store
52:39 <tristen> +2
52:43 <Thelen> so u stealth for say 2 attacks
52:45 <Thelen> 10 damage each
52:48 <Brunius> Hydra, Teamwork in PFS is pretty much a waste
52:49 <Thelen> then he hits you for 40
52:50 <Thelen> and u die
52:58 <Thelen> flank +2
53:03 <Thelen> not that useful
53:08 <Thelen> not worth a whole character to have
53:12 <Avatar> the thing is
53:18 <Avatar> you are comparing it to Buck and Grolschmir
53:20 <tristen> +heaps to hit though
53:25 <Thelen> no offence to your playing Brunius, you did good, but just in general
53:30 <Avatar> Buck who is hitting touch AC with optimised feats and items
53:31 <Hydrazine> Only because the system doesn't really align with people consistently running together.
53:35 <Avatar> and Grolschmir who is munchkinning the rules
53:45 <Thelen> Kaleb was lvl 4?
53:48 <Brunius> 6
53:50 <Brunius> :S
53:51 <Thelen> omg
53:53 <Thelen> even worse then
53:54 <Avatar> +3d6 sneak
54:00 <Thelen> whoopdy doo
54:04 <Brunius> Yeah
54:06 <Avatar> yeah it's not much
54:08 <Thelen> 1d10+18
54:12 <Thelen> and i have high ac
54:12 <Avatar> with TWF it's better
54:13 <Thelen> and high health
54:15 <Avatar> and flanks
54:23 <Avatar> because you do 2d3+6d6
54:26 <Avatar> assuming they hit
54:31 <Brunius> TWF makes it 2d4+6d6+1
54:31 <Avatar> that's with the attack alone
54:34 <Thelen> yea thats starting to make it decent
54:37 <Thelen> TWF?
54:41 <Avatar> there is more that you could probably do with more optimisation
54:41 <Thelen> why didn't u use that?
54:41 <Brunius> Two Weapon Fighting
54:44 <Brunius> I was
54:47 <Thelen> oh
54:59 <Brunius> Still pretty underpowered I reckon
55:01 <Avatar> do scrolls of true strike work for that
55:01 <Thelen> whenever u did damage i just heard like "6"
55:02 <Thelen> "4"
55:07 <Thelen> "1... uhm 3"
55:18 <Brunius> Yeah no bonuses really
55:28 <Brunius> Gotta get agile
55:31 <Thelen> i love the idea of a rogue though :D
55:35 <Thelen> and you played yours well :D
55:53 <Avatar> you have to remember
56:02 <Avatar> this is the same guy who optimised his character by buying a ring of sustenance
56:13 <Brunius> Yeah man
56:18 <Brunius> Long boring watches!
56:24 <Spaceshot_> heh
56:26 <Brunius> I don't even remember why I bought it
56:29 <Avatar> I'm really not sure what you were thinking
56:34 <Avatar> that is such a terrible choice
56:35 <Brunius> Neither am I
56:59 <Thelen> how much cost?
57:05 <Brunius> 2500
57:11 <Thelen> yea not really gonna help that much
57:15 <Thelen> so you get +1 ac
57:20 <Thelen> whoopdy doo 
57:20 <Thelen> :(
57:29 <Brunius> wha
57:43 <Brunius> Ring of Sustenance is 2 hours of sleep instead of 8 and don't need food
57:50 <Avatar> it's not even +1 AC
57:55 <Avatar> +1 AC would be great
57:59 <Thelen> for 2500?
58:02 <Avatar> that's a ring of deflection
58:12 <Thelen> +1 his armour?
58:26 <Avatar> once you've +1'd your armour, you need to find other ways to increase your AC
58:28 <Thelen> anyway i know bugger all
58:30 <Thelen> oh
58:35 <Thelen> so he had
58:35 <Avatar> you can +2 it, but that's +3000gp
58:48 <Brunius> I could +2 it
58:52 <Thelen> 3k vs 2.5, i'd have +2d
58:58 <Brunius> Then I've got 21AC
59:23 <Avatar> I am not a huge fan of the +1 ring of deflection because I'd rather save for a +2
59:35 <Ballig> ring of protection, amulet of natural armour
59:44 <Avatar> er yeah ring of protection
59:49 <Ballig> Avatar: I think you can pay the difference
59:55 <Avatar> can you
59:56 <Avatar> I don't think so
00:06 <Ballig> I /think/ the FAQ talks about upgrading named items with a bonus
00:10 <Ballig> like bracers of armor
00:17 <Spaceshot_> that would be good then
00:34 <Ballig> Wondrous items whose names include a +X value (such as bracers of armor, headband of vast intelligence, amulet of might fists, etc.) may also be upgraded following the rules for upgrading magical items on page 19 of the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play
00:47 <Avatar> shit
01:00 <Avatar> I wish I knew about that earlier
02:16 <Brunius> That's pretty nice.
02:39 <Avatar> might want to sell that ring of sustenance aye
02:44 <Brunius> Maybe !
02:49 <Avatar> it is actually great for when we set up watches
02:59 <Avatar> I'll give you that
03:03 <Avatar> but that is still pretty weak
03:06 <Brunius> "Yeah, I take first watch then the rogue takes the rest"
03:09 <Avatar> I get that you want to be versatile
03:11 <Avatar> but there are better ways
03:12 <Brunius> Rogue: :S
03:30 <Avatar> even if you don't take the usual headband of intelligence etc items
03:41 <Brunius> I don't even remember why I took it man
04:04 <Avatar> oh shit 
04:08 <Avatar> did I leave that powder keg there
04:09 <tristen> at the con we were lolling at "boobies" on the chicks in the doco
04:13 <tristen> check this out:
04:14 <tristen> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/shadowdancer
04:18 <tristen> LOLOL
04:53 <Spaceshot_> which one?
04:59 <Brunius> First one I think
05:03 <Brunius> But you won't spot it spaceshot
05:09 <Brunius> That's average for anime
05:25 <Spaceshot_> that's even small for some anime :P
05:27 <Brunius> All the illustrations in Ultimate Combat have an anime feel about them
05:33 <Brunius> I don't like it very much
05:38 <Avatar> I'm not sure what happens when a gun gets waterlogged
05:46 <Avatar> my best understanding is that it effectively misfires
05:51 <Spaceshot_> it's because UC is a bit racist
05:55 <Spaceshot_> being all eastern
05:55 <tristen> avatar: we're talking about boobs atm
05:58 <Avatar> and you need to clear it with move/standard action as usual
06:11 <Brunius> It's not all eastern Spaceshot
06:15 <Avatar> doesn't impress me man :P
06:25 <tristen> carry on :)
06:32 <Spaceshot_> besides gunslinger, it's basically all eastern
06:49 <Brunius> There's archetypes, variant rules
06:55 <Spaceshot_> the ninja even looks like Hanzo Hittori
07:07 <Brunius> It's quite a lot of eastern, but not "bascially all eastern"
07:11 <Avatar> it only has 3 classes man
07:19 <Avatar> to say 1 is western and 2 are eastern is hardly racist
07:37 <Spaceshot_> brunius said it was all anime like
07:45 <Spaceshot_> and I disagree, it's more dynasty warriors like
07:51 <Spaceshot_> very very dynasty warrior like
08:24 <Brunius> I don't get you.
08:32 <MekkisScreen> hey hey
08:42 <Brunius> MekkisScreen
08:45 * Brunius tips his hat
08:50 <MekkisScreen> ja
09:03 <Hydrazine> yo.
09:05 <Thelen> ooo
09:12 <Thelen> female dwarven somethin
09:15 <Thelen> she hawt
09:40 <MekkisScreen> Avatar... I'm about to start trying to get to your place
10:02 <MekkisScreen> I hope I'm not too late
10:17 <Avatar> nah it's all good
10:17 <Thelen> well you missed the stripteasers
10:20 <Avatar> I am having dinner
10:20 <Thelen> if thats what you mean
10:39 <MekkisScreen> I just finished dinner with Darkwhite...
10:53 <Avatar> okay......
10:55 <MekkisScreen> he might want to witness a game in here...
11:02 <Avatar> yeah I invited him in ages ago
11:21 <Brunius> I wonder what happens if you take Stabilize Powder, cast it on a loaded firearm, then unload the firearm
11:26 <Brunius> Can you unload firearms?
11:35 <Spaceshot_> did you end up questioning my wanted yet questionable build mekkis?
11:45 <MekkisScreen> no idea
11:48 <Avatar> uh, I guess you can
11:49 <MekkisScreen> yes
11:58 <Avatar> can you unload crossbows
12:06 <MekkisScreen> he agreed with me, Spaceshot_ 
12:16 <Spaceshot_> in which aspect?
12:18 <Brunius> So you stabilize powder, unload the firearm, load it with different ammo, stabilize, unload, etc.
12:37 <Brunius> And you've got a bunch of misfire-reduced ammo
12:40 <Avatar> what is stabilise powder
13:02 <Brunius> It reduces the misfire value by 1+1 per 5 caster levels
13:12 <Brunius> It's a Sorcerer/Wizard 2 spell
13:13 <Avatar> minimum 0?
13:19 <Brunius> Minimum 0 yeah
13:29 <Brunius> What's the deal with that anyway
13:30 <Avatar> that sounds cheesery
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13:38 <Avatar> misfires mean next to nothing
13:47 <Brunius> Why can't you reduce it to -1 or something?
13:51 <Avatar> if you are out of grit it becomes a problem I think
13:58 <Avatar> I don't know, since I am never even close to running out of grit
14:13 <Avatar> -1?
14:15 <Brunius> You grit-non-run-out-er-er
14:17 <Avatar> do you know how it work
14:18 <Avatar> s
14:24 <Brunius> Not really
14:29 <Avatar> you misfire on a roll of 1 or 1-2
14:37 <Avatar> there's no -1 on a dice
14:42 <Avatar> if the misfire value is 0, you never misfire
14:47 <Brunius> There's no 0 either
14:57 <Brunius> So what effect would it have for -1 or whatever?
15:04 <Avatar> my question was, is it minimum 0 or minimum 1
15:08 <Brunius> Minimum 0
15:11 <Avatar> yeah
15:18 <Avatar> but like there's no option of going below 0
15:19 <Brunius> p245 UC
15:27 <Avatar> there's no such thing as -1
15:37 <Avatar> oh I see why you're asking
15:41 <Avatar> misfire values can increase
15:49 <Avatar> if my musket breaks
15:57 <Avatar> then the misfire value changes from 1-2 to 1-5
16:04 <Avatar> and if it misfires again without me fixing it, it explodes
16:17 <Avatar> that's how the extra increases apply
16:30 <Brunius> Ah
16:41 <Avatar> at 5th level, that 1-5 changes to 1-3
16:57 <Brunius> I do want to find out a way to do this dual wielding pistolero
17:06 <Avatar> but I've never done two misfires because you just do a Quick Clear to fix your gun
17:08 <Avatar> as a move action
17:18 <Avatar> costs 1 grit
17:22 <Spaceshot_> Brunius: weapon cords
17:29 <Spaceshot_> it's a bit flakey, but it works
17:29 <Brunius> Already been said Spaceshot
17:32 <Avatar> or you can do it as a standard action as long as you have grit, but don't spend any of it
17:37 <Spaceshot_> sure has
17:42 <Brunius> I've only got one swift action a turn
17:42 <Spaceshot_> just making sure you know
17:43 <Avatar> Spaceshot_ might know more about pistolero than I do
18:20 <Spaceshot_> though the plan would be to eventually get your hands on a revolver
18:21 <Brunius> Unless Quick Draw reduces the time
18:25 <Brunius> Can't in PFS
18:31 <Spaceshot_> can't? aww
18:31 <Brunius> No Advanced Firearms
18:55 <Avatar> I've heard a double hackbut is an interesting firearm
19:03 <Spaceshot_> I think you might need quick draw and quick reload, but not exactly sure on the reload
19:05 <Avatar> it takes a full round to set up, but then you do serious damage after that
19:26 <Avatar> it means you can't really move though 
19:33 <Avatar> or you can, but you leave your weapon in one square
19:40 <Avatar> full round again to pack it up
19:57 <Avatar> I haven't taken a good enough look to learn how to optimise it
20:12 <Avatar> I am the kind of player who prefers a longsword to a reach weapon and tripping
20:51 <Brunius> I've got moths going after this screen, I'm gonna go
20:51 <Spaceshot_> you can always take the 5ft steps
20:54 <Brunius> cya later guys
20:59 <Avatar> gg
21:09 <Avatar> with a siege weapon?
30:18 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot_: with regards to your alchemist...
30:27 <Spaceshot_> mmm
31:03 <Spaceshot_> I mean, there are many different parts to the build that are all seperately questionable
31:58 <MekkisScreen> "When there's a grey area in the rules, it's up to the individual table GM. When the grey area includes whether or not your character is PFS-legal, you need to be prepared to remove yourself from every table you play on."
32:07 <Spaceshot_> oh that
32:08 <Spaceshot_> sure
32:30 <Avatar> yeah that was my feeling after this weekendandabit too
32:44 <MekkisScreen> Are you prepared to go to 36 GMs regarding this?
32:44 <Avatar> there's no point going to the VC if any GM can just say I don't want you playing here
33:10 <Spaceshot_> wha? I'd only be playing that character here
33:15 <Brunius> <Brunius> Spaceshot: That's a confirmed off my Tau friend
33:29 <Spaceshot_> I still can't go to Cons properly with any character I want, since I only own the core rulebook
33:39 <MekkisScreen> l
34:12 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: what line should I be on?
34:38 <MekkisScreen> I can change at Richmond, right
35:54 <Avatar> Mekkis: sandringham
35:59 <Avatar> you can change at richmond or south yarra
36:21 <MekkisScreen> cool
37:31 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot_: there's more than one table GM here
37:54 <MekkisScreen> and there's one who would reject it
38:26 <Spaceshot_> I bet there is currently more than 1
38:40 <Avatar> if you can find a GM who will do it, great
38:42 <Avatar> play with them
38:45 <Spaceshot_> XD
38:54 <Spaceshot_> the character isn't useless till level 2 or 3
39:09 <Spaceshot_> I mean questionable till then
43:40 <MekkisScreen> play 30 scenarios with them
46:30 <MekkisScreen> just remember, just because a GM makes one decision at some time doesn't mean he won't change his mind later
47:10 <Spaceshot_> true true
47:13 <Thelen> dinner with darkwhite?
47:13 <Thelen> wow nice
48:48 <Thelen> Spaceshot_ unless you care about just having fun and not knit-picking about rules and being a munchkin ;)
49:01 <MekkisScreen> anyone got a copy of the core rules?
49:10 <Thelen> nope
49:10 <MekkisScreen> open
49:16 <Thelen> can have in 5s
49:19 <Hydrazine> i do.
49:33 <Thelen> yea
49:49 <Spaceshot_> yes
49:50 <MekkisScreen> what does it say about the focus of plane shift
49:59 <Thelen> pp?
50:36 <Spaceshot_> a forked metal rod attuned to the plane shift
51:10 <Spaceshot_> doesn't specify that it has to be attuned to the plane you wish to shift to
54:58 <Spaceshot_> Thelen: I'm not exactly munchkining
55:27 <Spaceshot_> using 2 two-handed weapons TWF with sneak attack and high str (from the mutagen)
55:32 <Spaceshot_> isn't that munchkining
57:21 <Avatar> Spaceshot_: I think I'd rule you can't use vestigal arms for weapons at all
57:42 <Spaceshot_> because of what his intentions were?
57:47 <Avatar> yeah
57:54 <Avatar> you can carry a weapon but not use it to wield
58:01 <Spaceshot_> for vestigal arms to be a useless pair of arms to rumage around with potions
58:59 <Avatar> I don't think it's useless
59:06 <Spaceshot_> it's somewhat useless
59:12 <Avatar> you could be wielding weapons and not have to spend a move action to drink a potion
59:16 <Spaceshot_> a weapon cord would be probably as useful
59:18 <Avatar> technically that arm could always carry that potion
59:30 <Avatar> I've regularly wished I could do that kind of thing
59:47 <Spaceshot_> so if you're holding a potion its a free/swift to drink it?
59:59 <Avatar> if the intent of the rules were just for vestigal to carry things, then using them to wield things is going too far
00:02 <Thelen> standard
00:12 <Avatar> yeah standard
00:27 <Avatar> spending a round doing nothing but drinking a potion is very annoying
00:33 <Thelen> the real question is
00:41 <Thelen> why aren't there beer caps
00:45 <Thelen> that can hold a potion
00:51 <Thelen> which is move action to drink
00:52 <Spaceshot_> heh
00:52 <Avatar> is that a discovery you can get at first level?
00:56 <Thelen> :P
01:04 <Thelen> in fact
01:07 <Avatar> seems like any fighter type could benefit greatly from it
01:10 <Spaceshot_> I think you can get swift drinking
01:11 <Thelen> i swear that should be levgal
01:14 <Thelen> beer hat
01:50 <Thelen> hmmmm
01:58 <Thelen> whats the rules on stuff like that
02:00 <Thelen> custom equipment
03:30 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVSXGrLl9-E&feature=related
03:45 <Avatar> you can't make custom equipment in PFS
04:35 <Spaceshot_> otherwise I'd have my 10ft pole out of quarter staffs and slings
04:37 <Spaceshot_> which are free XD
10:43 <MekkisScreen> a large quarterstaff
12:47 <Spaceshot_> nah, just 3 or 4 tied together with the slings
13:37 <MekkisScreen> I'd allow that
13:46 <MekkisScreen> *
13:54 <Spaceshot_> heh nice
15:08 <Spaceshot_> also, did dark white have any insight on the notion that you have of my character being illegal if I get TWF feat at level 1 and then at level 2 take vestigal arm?
18:45 <Avatar> that's grey area man
19:11 <Spaceshot_> how?
19:16 <Spaceshot_> choices don't get relpaced
19:18 <Thelen> that's stupid
19:19 <Spaceshot_> replaced*
19:22 <Thelen> not even in mission?
19:44 <Thelen> profession engineering, can't rig up a potion/beer bat?
20:21 <Thelen> it takes up a slot after all
20:32 <Thelen> which might only be free in cases of fighter etc
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22:01 <Jaggedsoul> How's the con?
22:19 <Spaceshot_> http://forums.mangafox.com/members/103144-Vanilla-chan
22:25 <Spaceshot_> best sig/gif ever
22:35 <Thelen> we finished man
23:43 <Jaggedsoul> finished what
26:08 <Jaggedsoul> finished first place?
26:40 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_, yes
26:49 <Mekkis> he said that that's one interpretation
27:17 <Mekkis> I'm not sure that he fully understood the question
27:25 <Spaceshot_> mmm
33:33 <Spaceshot_> well, at the current issue of 2 mangas with similar story styles, now I need to find another
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41:48 <Mort-> Urgh :p
42:02 <Mort-> I got swindled :(
44:03 <Hydrazine> serves you right.
44:14 <Thelen> for having a mom
44:33 <Spaceshot_> Mort-: how so?
44:55 <Hydrazine> She was gambling.
44:57 <Hydrazine> Got pwnd.
44:59 <Mort-> I lost 4.20
45:15 <Mort-> Yeah your right :(
45:21 <Hydrazine> hi Mort
45:29 <Mort-> But last week i pwned them 11.60^^
46:41 <Spaceshot_> I'm guessing thats singaporean dollars
46:46 <Mort-> Ah well luck of the dice
46:47 <Mort-> Yes
46:55 <Spaceshot_> dice?
47:00 <Hydrazine> I think I still have a few Sing dollars somewhere.
47:02 <Mort-> I must have rolled a 1 :p
47:24 <Hydrazine> Got a few Aussie bucks somewhere too. So colorful!
49:13 <Thelen> hahaha
49:31 <Spaceshot_> bah, looking for similar manga is hard
49:32 <Spaceshot_> balls
51:59 <Mort-> Lol you travel around the world hydra?
52:41 <Hydrazine> I used to be in the service.
52:56 <Hydrazine> Got to visit Aussie and Singapore and Japan back in '07.
55:43 <Mort-> Ah oh yes
55:54 <Mort-> Singaporeans are cool :d
56:21 <Hydrazine> I loved Singapore. Thought that place kicked ass.
57:41 <Mort-> Yeah
57:51 <Mort-> No chewing gum^^
58:17 <Hydrazine> Cleanest city I ever seen.
58:39 <Mort-> Yeah we have a lot of cleaners
58:42 <Hydrazine> And Everyone spoke great english.
58:49 <Mort-> But i thought japan would be cleaner?
58:55 <Hydrazine> I had an easier time conversing in Singapore than Aussie.
58:57 <Mort-> Yes we speak good English
59:05 <Mort-> Its the accent
59:09 <Hydrazine> Just because some of those accents were just.. wow.
59:14 <Mort-> I just don't spell so good
59:21 <Spaceshot_> you don't like people swaring every 3rd word?
59:25 <Mort-> Or at least i can't spell on cell
59:30 <Mort-> We don't swear
59:45 <Hydrazine> Oh, I don't care about the profanity. I was in the military, fuck.
59:51 <Spaceshot_> aussies sware
59:53 <Spaceshot_> a fuckload
59:55 <Hydrazine> I just couldn't understand a few of the aussies.
00:12 <Spaceshot_> swear*
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02:23 <Avatar> yobbos like spaceshot swear a fuckload
03:05 <Hydrazine> Whats a yobbo?
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04:07 <Spaceshot> hey hydra
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04:15 <Spaceshot> what anime/manga did you use to watch
04:21 <Spaceshot>  /read
05:16 <Hydrazine> Fuck. I don't remember atleast half of it. That was like 10 years ago.
05:23 <Spaceshot> wow that was long
06:10 <Hydrazine> I remember reading the first few eps of bleach and naruto, freshly pirated.
06:42 <Spaceshot> not a big fan of long anime
06:57 <Spaceshot> long manga is fine because I can read through it fast enough
07:15 <Spaceshot> I've read over 250 chapters within 2 manga series in about a week
07:37 <Spaceshot> such a bum :P
07:49 <Mort-> I can swear a bit too
08:11 <Mort-> My kd mates taught me how to swear :(
08:31 <Spaceshot> but do you swear often by nature?
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09:59 <Mort-> Not really
10:09 <Mort-> I'm too shy in rl to swear
10:13 <Spaceshot> australians do, a bit
10:20 * Mort- feels geek
10:23 <Spaceshot> haha
10:25 <Mekkis> some do
10:35 * Mort- blushes
10:57 <Spaceshot> such a geek
11:04 <Avatar> anyone had a look at urban druid?
11:12 <Avatar> seems like an archetype that is better than the class
11:23 <Spaceshot> can you still take a roc?
11:43 <Avatar> no animal companion
11:52 <Avatar> gets spontaneous casting instead
12:37 <Spaceshot> domain druids aren't better than animal companion druids
12:52 <Spaceshot> doesn't matter if they can spontaneous trade prepared spells for domain spells
13:01 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, you're such a powergamer
13:05 <Avatar> I have no desire for an animal companion
13:12 <Avatar> it's half the reason I don't like druid
13:16 <Avatar> the other half is wild shape
13:23 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: I like how that's from you
13:34 <Mekkis> thank you
14:17 <Spaceshot> then why play a druid avatar
14:20 <Mort-> Hm
14:27 <Spaceshot> if you don't want an animal companion nor wild shape?
14:33 <Mort-> Wonder if there is anyone for a game tomorrow
14:58 <Mort-> He wants to charge and do 42 dmg in at lv 1?:p
15:00 <Spaceshot> if I wasn't going out, then I'd be tempted
15:54 <Hydrazine> i'd be willing to play tomorrow.
16:53 <Mort-> Argh
16:58 <Mort-> Tashes?
17:17 <Mort-> And find mek / avatar to gm i purpose
17:20 <Mort-> Purpose
17:21 <Spaceshot> also mort, you aren't the only one who's shy and geeky here
17:27 <Mort-> Suppose
17:31 <Mort-> Oh good :d
18:11 <Spaceshot> :P
19:49 <Mort-> Hm who do you play space
20:09 <Spaceshot> in what?
20:20 <Hydrazine> in street fighter
20:40 <Spaceshot> more of a SC guy
21:28 <Avatar> Spaceshot: the archetype is exactly what I want from a druid
21:36 <Spaceshot> good for you
21:37 <Tashes> Eh, if i'm around. I don't know what i'm doing tomorrow yet. 
21:44 <Tashes> I must roll a sister of battle!
21:49 <Avatar> well don't say good for me
21:53 <Avatar> you asked why play a druid
21:57 <Avatar> I am telling you why
22:04 <Mort-> I mean what character you play
22:05 <Spaceshot> then not good for you
22:16 <Avatar> well now you're just being rude
22:18 <Spaceshot> Tashes: a SoB? for which RPG?
22:21 <Mort-> For down here dnd
22:25 <Spaceshot> Avatar: I tried to be nice
22:43 <Spaceshot> Mort-: oh, I've got Thwang a flurry of Bows monk
22:52 <Mort-> I see
22:55 <Spaceshot> and am going to be making a deaf oracle
22:59 <Mort-> I see
23:01 <Spaceshot> I like fun characters
23:12 <Spaceshot> a fun character is a good build
23:17 <Spaceshot> not a good build is a fun character
23:18 <Mort-> Deaf uh not sure if i would have taken that
23:22 <Mort-> But never mind
23:27 <Tashes> Spaceshot, Dark Heresy
23:28 <Mort-> Guess well see tomorrow
23:29 <Spaceshot> no, many people wouldn't
23:34 <Mort-> If anything happens
23:42 <Spaceshot> Tashes: nice, I've always wanted to try that
23:53 <Mort-> But i can only make it if its first thing in the morning
24:03 <Mort-> Else I'm going for interview late afternoon
24:13 <Tashes> Spaceshot, i've played for a while. the DM's a douche, but the game's fun
24:15 <Spaceshot> getting a job? how dare you not be a bum like the rest of us
24:23 <Mort-> I need to get a job
24:36 <Mort-> I'm a lot older then most of you here i think :(
24:50 <Spaceshot> Tashes: better than have a douche of player playing with you who has a facination for trains (he likes being railroaded)
24:55 <Mort-> Besides my parents would yell at me
25:21 <Mort-> Its not like I'm waiting for university to start :(
25:23 <Spaceshot> I dunno mort, many people here are in their late 20s, maybe even early 30s (I'm only saying that cause of hydra XD)
25:30 <Mort-> I'm 24
25:34 <Hydrazine> wtf?
25:36 <Hydrazine> Ass. I'm 25.
25:49 <Mort-> Singapore doesn't have social security
25:50 <Spaceshot> you said you stopped watching anime when you went into the navy
25:56 <Hydrazine> Yeah.
25:58 <Mort-> You either work or you don't eat
26:01 <Mort-> Pretty simple
26:01 <Spaceshot> I was just guessing, since you said that was 10 years ago
26:02 <Hydrazine> I did 7 years.
26:06 <Hydrazine> Got in at 17.
26:08 <Spaceshot> ah
26:16 <Spaceshot> sorry for making you sound like an old fart
26:26 <Hydrazine> Lol. I ain't quite one of those yet.
26:31 <Spaceshot> XD
26:38 <Mort-> So i can't really sit around and enjoy my bumhood :(
26:44 <Spaceshot> I'm the second youngest here I bet
26:49 <Spaceshot> brunius beating me by a few years
26:52 <Hydrazine> Next to Brunius?
26:54 <Hydrazine> Maybe.
27:01 <Spaceshot> he's 16 or 17
27:04 <Spaceshot> and I'm 20, recently
27:12 <Mort-> Lol
27:16 <Mort-> I'm old
27:25 * Mort- feels ancient
27:25 <Spaceshot> still don't feel any different from when I was 15
27:37 <Tashes> *cough* don't act any different eithre *cough*
27:41 <Mort-> I think ballig is older then i am though
28:05 <Mort-> He keeps saying I'm too energetic
28:08 <Mort-> :p
28:27 <Spaceshot> hahaha
28:37 <Spaceshot> Tashes: for the first time I have to agree with you
28:58 <Spaceshot> I'm still bumming around with no care about what I do
28:59 <Mort-> Ill probably be fine if my battlefields kingdom gets into a war
29:16 <Mort-> Then i have to plan the war and its an energy drain
29:28 <Mort-> Ill stop sparking around here
30:40 <Spaceshot> wha? one of those free online kingdom games?
31:07 <Mort-> Ya ^^
31:13 <Spaceshot> I use to play a couple
31:21 <Mort-> I'm their fking war planner
31:23 <Spaceshot> but I end up not caring about them
31:26 <Mort-> I run wars
31:28 <Mort-> Oh lol
31:31 <Mort-> Hm
31:40 <Mort-> I think this age we will have less power
31:48 <Hydrazine> Mort, tactical genius.
31:53 <Mort-> Just work with the cards we have in hand i purpose
31:55 <Mort-> Suppose
31:58 <Mort-> A bit :p
32:18 <Mort-> Now you know why i can talk with you an entire afternoon on tactics? :d
32:34 <Mort-> My other side is happy :p
33:03 <Mort-> Its all in chain managment
33:18 <Mort-> Ever spent a night on 4 h sleep managing my chain down
33:25 <Hydrazine> Whats it say that I can spend an afternoon plotting too?
33:38 <Mort-> Squeaked and squealed all the way down
33:50 <Mort-> Probably because you have been raid leader of a sort
34:01 <Hydrazine> I have, actually.
34:03 * Mort- stares at hydrazine
34:07 <Mort-> See,
34:09 <Hydrazine> I ran my own group in icecrown.
34:15 <Mort-> It leaves its mark on you
34:16 <Spaceshot> lol wow
34:18 <Hydrazine> After I got my tank geared up.
34:32 <Hydrazine> I used to play WoW. So?
34:34 <Mort-> Yeah its all about coordination
34:41 <Mort-> And maybe vent
34:46 <Mort-> Or team speak
35:03 <Mort-> But seriously I'm not much of a pvp sort
35:10 <Mort-> Reflexes too slow for that
35:35 <Hydrazine> I only really pvp in LoL.
35:41 <Spaceshot> heh
35:44 <Hydrazine> I didn't even do it in wow much.
35:44 <Spaceshot> I use to play wow
35:49 <Spaceshot> it goet boring
35:51 <Spaceshot> got*
36:17 <Spaceshot> as in, I didn't want to have to get 10 more levels when BC came out
36:20 <Spaceshot> I was 60 for a year
36:24 <Hydrazine> I liked Icecrown. It was hard when it came out.
36:49 <Mort-> Ah you like things hard
36:52 <Mort-> ^^
36:59 <Hydrazine> thats what she said.
37:05 <Mort-> Lol
37:06 <Spaceshot> waited for that
37:10 <Hydrazine> Its why I didn't like assassin's creed.
37:15 <Hydrazine> you can't fucking die in that game.
37:18 <Hydrazine> its a joke.
37:28 <Spaceshot> mmm
37:34 <Hydrazine> And Super Meat Boy. That shit's brutal.
37:38 <Spaceshot> you should play super meat boy
37:42 <Spaceshot> haha 
37:45 <Mort-> Uh how about you take up ninja gaiden on ps3?
37:50 <Spaceshot> yea super meat boy is retardly difficult
37:52 <Mort-> Have a good jump
38:00 <Spaceshot> hydra, go play battletoads XD
38:29 <Hydrazine> i tried ninja gaiden. just didn't like it.
39:06 <Spaceshot> I think I tried it, was it the one where every boss fight had a huge cutscene before it, and really bad camera angle on the boss fights?
39:35 <Mort-> I didn't have any luck even getting to the boss
39:43 <Mort-> ^^
39:51 <Mort-> Controls cannot make it
39:53 <Mort-> My control
40:20 <Mort-> Do not expect me to jump and prance like an acrobat because i just can't
40:36 <Spaceshot> heh
40:43 <Spaceshot> geeky, but not good motor controls XD
40:51 <Spaceshot> lemurs these days
44:02 <Mort-> Yeah
44:29 <Mort-> Any fancy bouncing and i would be happier sticking on the ground
44:37 <Spaceshot> haha
44:50 <Mort-> That's why i said i can't learn to be a pit guide in ddo
44:58 <Mort-> You need a lot of bouncing around
45:13 <Mort-> And wearing plate armor like good clerics do
45:16 <Mort-> Doesn't help
45:24 <Mort-> When i explored the place alone
45:36 <Mort-> I actually took off my armor to jump
45:45 <Spaceshot> that'd be funny
48:06 <Mort-> Its practical
48:15 <Spaceshot> yes it is, but the sight would still be funny
48:26 <Mort-> No single normal mob can kill me there anyway
48:39 <Mort-> And yes i was standing in my underwear :(
48:45 <Mort-> Disgusting
48:56 <Spaceshot> XD
49:48 <Hydrazine> Don't you know the rules concerning fantasy genre, girls, and armor?
50:02 <Hydrazine> the higher the AC of the armor, the less it actually covers a woman.
50:14 <Spaceshot> haha
50:21 <Hydrazine> Epic armor of awesome, is dental floss.
50:23 <Spaceshot> MMOs use that a lot
50:32 <Mort-> No
50:48 <Mort-> It covered everything and i looked totally cool in it!
51:03 <Mort-> I actually like to be a well plated cleric
51:24 <Mort-> Its the caster armor that is flimsy
52:01 <Hydrazine> in wow, my male troll would put on armor, and look like a tank.
52:08 <Hydrazine> a female belf puts on the same armor, and looks like a hooker.
52:14 <Spaceshot> haha yea
52:35 <Spaceshot> my level 60 hunter would have a mail bikini top
52:49 <Spaceshot> mail short shorts, and long mail stockings
54:02 <Spaceshot> look so skanky
54:19 <Mort-> Aw my god
54:24 <Mort-> It doesn't make sense
54:42 <Mort-> Such good ac when so much of your skin is uncovered? :"
55:07 <Spaceshot> it's called males play female characters more than females do XD
57:18 <Spaceshot> well, I should go to bed
57:23 <Mort-> Lol
57:29 <Mort-> We should all go to bed
57:30 <Spaceshot> I've got a quack that needs to be yelled at for being stupid
57:39 <Mort-> Except for hydra
57:58 <Mort-> I play male characters sometimes in mmos
58:54 <Hydrazine> i mix it up.
59:09 <Hydrazine> all mine in Rift so fare are male.
59:40 <Spaceshot> I prefer female characters, in pnp RPGs
59:55 <Spaceshot> but I don't do it, because I'm concious of what others think of me RPing a female
59:56 <Mort-> Lol
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