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00:06 <Mekkis> perhaps
00:22 <Mekkis> but do they consider their old market worth salvaging
00:33 <Mekkis> they've essentially divided their community
05:23 <Spaceshot> 5th edition is meant to bring back the old players
05:30 <Spaceshot> and is supposedly 'modular'
05:32 <Mekkis> that's what they always say
06:06 <Mekkis> there's only one successful time that WoTC really managed to 'bring back the old players'
06:12 <Mekkis> that I can recall
06:13 <Spaceshot> in my local area, 4th ed has brought those who had played dnd previous to 3e/3.5 back to dnd
06:24 <Mekkis> and that was the release of Time Spiral
06:29 <Spaceshot> hehe
06:53 <Mekkis> (TBH, it WAS helped by the rotating out of the Mirrodin and Kamigawa blocks)
07:17 <Spaceshot> I WANT MY DAMN CONTRAPTIONS
07:22 <Mekkis> heh
07:32 <Spaceshot> only time I'll come back to magic
07:35 <Spaceshot> that or the land only set
07:44 <Mekkis> land only set?
07:56 <Mekkis> I doubt they'd do that: not enough design space available
08:04 <Spaceshot> the morph land and the litteral man land were both future sighted
08:46 <Mekkis> I wouldn't mind an instant-only set
09:00 <Spaceshot> I thought scorge was meant to be a creatureless set
09:08 <Spaceshot> to counteract legion
09:18 <Mekkis> hmmm
09:32 <Mekkis> Scourge had what I feel was the most flavourful card
09:39 <Spaceshot> which one?
09:43 <Mekkis> Form of the Dragon
09:58 <Spaceshot> the blue card that made everything dragons?
10:01 <Mekkis> no
10:05 <Mekkis> that was Day of the Dragons
10:10 <Spaceshot> the red card that made you a dragon?
10:15 <Mekkis> yeah
10:20 <Spaceshot> ahh
10:43 <Spaceshot> I still think arabian nights tim was good
10:49 <Spaceshot> I liked it's flavour text
10:54 <Spaceshot> "they call me, tim"
10:57 <Mekkis> tim?
11:12 <Mekkis> Prodigal Sorcerer?
11:17 <Spaceshot> yea
11:19 <Mekkis> that wasn't in Arabian Nights
11:26 <Spaceshot> it was a set close to it
11:37 <Mekkis> it was never printed like that
12:49 <Spaceshot> hmm
12:51 <Spaceshot> maybe your right
12:55 <Spaceshot> thought there was
13:00 <Spaceshot> maybe I'm thinking of a different card
13:45 <Mekkis> at the moment, it feels like Magic's too planned, and stale
14:04 <Spaceshot> it feels like magic has been clutching at straws for a few blocks now
14:17 <Mekkis> since Time Spiral rotated out
14:19 <Mekkis> :)
14:38 <Spaceshot> time spiral itself was an ok set
14:49 <Spaceshot> the previous block made it retardedly good
14:56 <Spaceshot> and future sight is the most bullshit set ever
14:57 <Mekkis> and the following block?
15:34 <Spaceshot> future sight fucked up
15:38 <Mekkis> how so?
15:48 <Spaceshot> goyf and venser
16:25 <Mekkis> I won a timespiral block constructed PTQ, and I wasn't running either of those
16:46 <Spaceshot> what were you playing?
17:02 <Mekkis> WUR stuff that I put together myself
17:10 <Spaceshot> heh
17:17 <Spaceshot> I got into nationals with Pro Deck
17:33 <Spaceshot> could of, and should of beat Ian Wood rather than IDing
18:02 <Spaceshot> it was lorwyn/shadowmoor and the set after
18:16 <Mekkis> Decklist:
18:16 <Mekkis> 7 Plains
18:16 <Mekkis> 2 Flagstones of Trokair
18:16 <Mekkis> 3 Island
18:16 <Mekkis> 5 Mountain
18:16 <Mekkis> 2 Nimbus Maze
18:16 <Mekkis> 1 Vesuva
18:16 <Mekkis> 3 Keldon Megaliths
18:16 <Mekkis> 4 Momentary Blink
18:16 <Mekkis> 4 Prismatic Lens
18:16 <Mekkis> 4 Temporal Isolation
18:16 <Mekkis> 4 Coaltion Relic
18:16 <Mekkis> 3 Foresee
18:16 <Mekkis> 4 Lightning Angel
18:16 <Mekkis> 4 Avalanche Riders
18:16 <Mekkis> 3 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
18:16 <Mekkis> 2 Aeon Chronicler
18:16 <Mekkis> 2 Akroma, Angel of Fury
18:16 <Mekkis> 1 Akroms, Angel of Wrath
18:16 <Mekkis> 2 Bogardan Hellkite
18:16 <Mekkis> Sideboard:
18:16 <Mekkis> 1 Nix
18:16 <Mekkis> 4 Desolation Giant
18:16 <Mekkis> 2 Molten Disaster
18:16 <Mekkis> 2 Boom/Bust
18:16 <Mekkis> 3 Disenchant
18:16 <Mekkis> 3 Pull from Eternity 
19:08 <Spaceshot> oh...
19:20 <Spaceshot> I saw someone play that at a PTQ around the same time
19:23 <Spaceshot> or something similar
20:00 <Spaceshot> was playing blue for some early game control
20:14 <Spaceshot> than spammed fatties with aeon chronicler giving cards (I think he had 4)
20:54 <Mekkis> that deck relies on early game mana acceleration
21:00 <Spaceshot> yea that too
21:10 <Mekkis> with Temporal isolation
21:13 <Spaceshot> don't remember the decklist exactly
21:19 <Spaceshot> but the pro deck was
21:24 <Mekkis> lightning angel for passive/aggressive stuff
21:27 <Spaceshot> 4 pro black buff changling
21:34 <Spaceshot> 4 paladin envec
21:44 <Mekkis> that's standard
21:50 <Mekkis> not timespiral block
21:51 <Spaceshot> gimme a sec
21:55 <Spaceshot> yea it was standard
22:02 <Spaceshot> never said it was block
22:07 <Spaceshot> it was regionals
22:12 <Mekkis> ah
22:18 <Spaceshot> lorwyn to block after
22:21 <Spaceshot> anywho
22:32 <Mekkis> then the deck does BS with momentary blink
22:42 <Spaceshot> 4 armadilo cloak equipment
22:53 <Mekkis> (avalanche riders or red akroma)
22:53 <Spaceshot> 4 birds
23:04 <Spaceshot> it was basically as much pro stuff I could get
23:08 <Spaceshot> and then painters servant
23:15 <Mekkis> what do you mean "pro stuff"
23:20 <Mekkis> stuff professionals use?
24:27 <Spaceshot> protection
24:29 <Spaceshot> fro blah
24:31 <Spaceshot> from*
24:34 <Mekkis> oh!
24:39 <Mekkis> did it really work?
24:39 <Spaceshot> and painters servant
24:56 <Mekkis> against a field of fairies?
25:18 <Spaceshot> yep
25:26 <Spaceshot> the equipment won against fairies
25:34 <Spaceshot> I think I only played 1 or 2
25:45 <Spaceshot> basically if I got he changling in play, they lost
25:49 <Spaceshot> the*
25:51 <Mekkis> yep
26:01 <Spaceshot> or even a turn 2 envec
26:02 <Mekkis> I suppose that happened when you were on the play
26:19 <Spaceshot> usually with the envec
26:24 <Spaceshot> painters servant was just funny
26:31 <Spaceshot> I won my first match in nationals with him
26:37 <Mekkis> damnation still wipes your field
26:51 <Spaceshot> I had 2 of the red burn card that deals 2 damage per white permanent target player controls
27:11 <Spaceshot> I played draw painters servant and play it (like turn 4)
27:26 <Spaceshot> he was playing white weenie with tokens
27:34 <Spaceshot> I only had land and those 2 burn spells
27:45 <Spaceshot> his turn 4 he plays a dude and smacks me
27:54 <Spaceshot> next turn I burn him end of turn after he playes the token maker
27:56 <Spaceshot> I do it again
28:08 <Spaceshot> wait... I didn't have painted, he just had 5 dudes
28:10 <Spaceshot> now I remember
28:41 <Mekkis> that deck I was playing had a weakness against wild pair slivers
29:10 <Mekkis> luckily, the only time I got matched up against it, my opponent got a gameloss for Failure to Desideboard, and I managed to win game 3
29:19 <Mekkis> (he was somewhat manascrewed)
29:33 <Spaceshot> haha
30:30 <Mekkis> turn 3 avalanche riders, turn 4 momentary blink is good at ensuring that he stayed manascrewed
31:53 <Mekkis> (Desolation Giant is a surprisingly good Wrath of God)
31:58 <Spaceshot> mmm
32:11 <Mekkis> Especially when Damnation is the only other wrath in the set
33:09 <Spaceshot> mmm
34:23 <Avatar> spaceshot
34:25 <Avatar> jump onto ddo
34:41 <Spaceshot> nah, playing the most fucked up (yet awesome) VN
34:54 <Avatar> what
35:04 <Spaceshot> virtual novel
52:39 <Mekkis> what's that?
53:32 <Spaceshot> basically it's a step down from dating sim
53:54 <Spaceshot> a virtual novel is where you are basically reading 90% of the story, and get to make choices along the way
54:13 <Spaceshot> which will make your ending different
54:41 <Avatar> you might like jurassic park by telltale
54:55 <Mekkis> you might like Chapter 1 of the Beginner Box :)
55:02 <Spaceshot> :P
55:04 <Spaceshot> this is different
09:34 <Avatar> how do you know
09:41 <Avatar> have you played jurassic park or chapter 1 bb
09:51 <Spaceshot> no
09:59 <Spaceshot> but I doubt you've also played a VN
15:30 <Avatar> no but I'm not claiming it's different 
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21:38 <Mekkis> "Well, that would be version one. But we promise that version 1.1 would have perfect performance, no lag, and so secure it'll seem like magic."
21:38 <Mekkis> "You're lying aren't you?"
21:38 <Mekkis> "Of course, I'm in sales!" 
22:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, considered a career in agriculture?
23:19 <Avatar> not in particular, should I
24:34 <Mekkis> there's a pretty big skills shortage in that area now
27:35 <Avatar> I will look into that
44:32 <Isendre> ooh if you d can I come too
48:17 <Avatar> yes
50:10 <Isendre> I love farm town buildings
56:55 <Avatar> I'm seriously considering looking into graveyard shift work
59:46 <snypt> what kind of work are you looking for Avatar ?
00:01 <Avatar> nothing specific
00:17 <Avatar> I was looking into marketing/project management stuff, I'll continue that
00:23 <Avatar> but I need to broaden it a bit anyway
00:40 <Avatar> something other than customer service/sales
01:11 <snypt> fair enough
01:27 <Avatar> unless there's some decent career progression in it
01:36 <Avatar> and if it's graveyard, that's probably another exception
08:09 <snypt> fucking stupid mobile authenticators
08:19 <snypt> i forgot to back it up b4 i restored my phone
08:21 <snypt> =/
08:37 <snypt> now ill have to call blizzard tomorrow
09:57 <Avatar> what are you trying to do
13:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha getting back into wow?
21:58 <Avatar> forget wow
24:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea katawa shoujo is where its at XD
56:48 <Avatar> what the hell is katawa shoujo
57:05 <Avatar> I don't think you can name some obscure thing as 'where it's at'
58:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure I can
58:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's a visual novel of questionable story
58:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> but it is good
58:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> questionable theme*
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50:29 <snypt> sounds like a persons name
51:28 <snypt> lol it means disability girls
51:34 <snypt> wtf
53:29 <snypt> so it is a filthy story about underage japanese girls with diabilitys
53:39 <snypt> spaceshot is one twisted little shit
53:53 <snypt> anyway im off to bed
53:54 <snypt> nn
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02:24 <Brunius> lol
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11:05 <Avatar> zzzz
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23:32 <Avatar> 10am has become the new 6am for me
36:39 <Brunius> Meaning it's the time you go to sleep?
38:42 <Brunius> What the heck is up with that video on facebook man
39:40 <Avatar> time I wake up
41:30 <Avatar> do you know the original song
41:42 <Avatar> possibly not
42:04 <Brunius> I know the original
50:29 <Avatar> I don't remember who were the 6 people who said they were going to show to this game
51:11 <Avatar> tristen, thelen, brunius, isendre, me and ?
51:17 <Avatar> was it jaggedsoul
59:14 <Avatar> roll call, all of you wake up
59:19 <Avatar> you too mekkis
02:35 <Brunius> Was
02:49 <Brunius> topic is gone again
02:54 <Brunius> Wasn't the game tomorrow?
03:06 <Avatar> oh jesus christ it is too
03:15 <Avatar> `op
03:15 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
03:18 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Thurs 11am (new game, Avatar) / Sat 10am (new game: Avatar, Mekkis or Ballig) | CoTE: Sun 10am || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net/
03:24 <Avatar> back to sleep for me !!
03:42 <Avatar> I just finished my extra strong coffee 
03:59 <Avatar> I guess I could run a game if we have 3 people here
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04:07 <Brunius_AFK> Whoops
04:10 Brunius_AFK is now known as Brunius_
04:22 <Avatar> why are you using two clients
04:37 <Brunius_> Had to vacate the other computer
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24:49 <Avatar> tristen you're around aren't you
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46:52 <tristen> ja
47:04 <tristen> just got back from a fucking hellride on my bike
48:06 <Avatar> what do you mean
48:10 <Avatar> did you do donuts
48:18 <tristen> man you're in st kilda aren't you?
48:25 <tristen> how's the bloody wind out there?
49:27 <tristen> speaking of extra strong coffees...
49:29 <tristen> brb
49:31 <Avatar> dunno, I'm inside
53:06 <tristen> heheh "endure elements"
53:29 <tristen> oh btw if you want to run a game i can do
58:00 <Avatar> yep
58:08 <Avatar> if there's one more I can run something
58:37 <tristen> lemme check on that lout thelen
01:54 <tristen> hey is ballig about?
02:39 <tristen> thelen may be able to do - you got something hitomi can play avatar?
02:52 <tristen> oh wait sorry cancel that
02:59 <tristen> he can do tomorrow cos he's on hols
06:03 <Avatar> ballig is at work
06:15 <Avatar> thelen said he was likely not in till tomorrow
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46:35 <Avatar> barmaley
46:38 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
46:58 <Barmaley> hi
47:00 <Barmaley> wut
47:12 <Avatar> to play with us
47:15 <Avatar> are you keen
47:31 <Barmaley> ehhh
47:41 <Avatar> well what's going on
47:51 <Barmaley> i think i got here by mistake
47:57 <Avatar> what do you mean
47:59 <Avatar> how did you get here
48:17 <Barmaley> i found the link on dakkadakka forums
48:23 <Barmaley> though this was a warhammer irc channel
48:29 <Barmaley> thought*
48:42 <Avatar> well we are keen on any kind of rpg
48:54 <Avatar> have you run a warhammer game before
49:06 <Avatar> I don't play it personally so I have no idea how it works
49:14 <Avatar> brunius and another guy have talked about it I think
49:42 <Avatar> can you link the post on dakkadakka? I want to see it
50:15 <Avatar> oh, it's brunius' post
50:19 <Barmaley> nah, to be honest i thought it was a channel for all things warhammer, not necessarily rpg
50:40 <Avatar> all things rpg
51:21 <Barmaley> so you are playing rpgs in here?
52:06 <Avatar> yep
52:17 <Avatar> pathfinder is the game of choice at the moment
52:22 <Barmaley> nice
52:27 <Avatar> but we have tried all sorts of stuff
52:27 <Barmaley> ive never played an rpg
52:38 <Avatar> worth checking out
52:39 <Barmaley> but i read about dnd 5th edition coming out soon
52:41 <Avatar> hang about
52:53 <Barmaley> pen and paper rpg that is
53:51 <Barmaley> yeah, ima subscribe this channel, id like to see how playing an rpg over the internet looks like
06:21 <Avatar> we've got a game running tomorrow morning
06:23 <Avatar> are you in australia
18:38 <Barmaley> austria
19:20 <Avatar> sweet
19:22 <Avatar> 3am there?
20:18 <Barmaley> yep
21:28 <Avatar> you'll need to be logged on at midnight for most games I think
21:45 <Avatar> it's 1.21pm here
21:59 <Barmaley> at what time do you start?
24:55 <Brunius_AFK> :-P
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48:25 <Avatar> wow, very helpful brunius
48:32 <Avatar> we start at 10 or 11am usually
48:49 <Avatar> usually on weekends, but recently it's been on occasional weekdays too
48:55 <Avatar> it's in the topic
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53:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> so avatar is running the PFS game thursday? interesting
53:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> might still make that TWF
54:34 <tristen> avatar - is that lout ballig still at work?
55:17 <tristen> wait nm that for the moment
55:28 <tristen> i'll just keep an eye out for him
56:47 <tristen> maybe if barmaley hasn't pen n papered before
56:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> everyone stalking ballig these days
56:54 <tristen> perhaps he could use a pregen
56:58 <tristen> sit in on a game
57:07 <tristen> and get a feel for it
57:38 <tristen> there's only a few rolls he'd have to learn if he started with, say a fighter
58:38 <tristen> pretty straight-forward
00:22 <Avatar> ballig works 9-5 
00:38 <Avatar> I can run a game this afternoon if we have 3 people willing?
00:55 <Avatar> or tonight if that's better
01:15 <Avatar> I need you guys to raise your hands for that though
01:23 <Avatar> I get the impression tristen you're up for anything anytime
01:34 <tristen> yeah for now i am
01:39 <Avatar> brunius and spaceshot are constantly on the fence 
01:41 <tristen> i bum around a lot
01:48 <Avatar> Isendre might be around? I don't know
01:50 <Avatar> maybe tashes
01:58 <Avatar> and maybe thelen
02:09 <Brunius> Was
02:24 <Avatar> yell out if you're able to play, don't wait to be asked
02:47 <tristen> now you mean?
02:54 <Avatar> I mean anytime
03:00 <Brunius> Not now, about to plug stuff in. Tonight maybe
03:03 <Avatar> we can run an impromptu game as long as people are here to play
03:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> doubtful for me
03:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
03:16 <Brunius> brb, plugging cables into graphics card
03:22 <tristen> zzzt
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03:31 <Avatar> haha
03:40 <Avatar> my predictions are absolutely spot on !
04:16 <tristen> hey i'm tinkering around with a very basic prototype of ca in a browser
04:35 <tristen> not sure if it'll work out just yet
04:41 <tristen> but watch this space
04:42 <Avatar> how the hell are you doing that
04:47 <Avatar> you don't have the source do you?
04:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> I think he might
04:59 <tristen> no i'm just writing it
05:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
05:09 <Avatar> from scratch?
05:13 <tristen> aye lad
05:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> guessing that's why you wanted ballig
05:19 <Avatar> jesus you're determined
05:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> Avatar: grid based programs aren't new
05:33 <tristen> i just want to see if it will work
05:40 <Avatar> really, spaceshot
05:45 <Barmaley> sorry was away, playing bf3
05:50 <Avatar> show me one that exists in terms of what tristen is talking about
05:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha bf3
05:59 <Avatar> bf3 wins
06:12 <tristen> sp bf3: FAIL
06:13 <Avatar> I am kind of angry at myself for not playing it more recently
06:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> Avatar: what I mean is that you can google practically anything somewhat vague in terms of programing, and you'll find something abouti t
06:35 <Avatar> I didn't play single player long enough, I thought it was okay
06:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> easy to learn, sometimes easy enough to copy and change where needed
07:01 <Avatar> there is a difference between CA in a browser and something vague in comparison
07:37 <Avatar> if you could make something realistically similar to CA in a browser, that is something special
07:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> CA isn't that much
07:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure it's grown over the years to something good
08:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> but it isn't the bees knees
08:04 <Avatar> CA's strength is its design
08:17 <tristen> avatar: yes, absolutely
08:18 <Barmaley> how do you guys play this? over irc or skype?
08:20 <Avatar> if you have a poor design, and most grid based programs do, then it's not worth talking about
08:38 <Avatar> Barmaley: IRC, but we've recently started using skype for planning and banter
08:49 <tristen> you guys have used it and played it and it's evolved to work well with what we do
08:50 <Avatar> it all happens on IRC really
09:01 <Avatar> but sometimes we take a long time planning what to do and skype is quicker for talking that out
09:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> IRC is in-character, skype is player
09:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> which is a good medium
09:26 <Barmaley> ah k, but how do you roll dice, and do you need any other supplements for the game?
09:33 <Avatar> player talk works good on both IRC and skype
09:38 <Avatar> !throw 1d20
09:38 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20: [1d20=10] 10
09:44 <Barmaley> ah nice :)
09:48 <Avatar> you need the rulebooks
09:54 <Avatar> and you need CA, which is on the website
09:58 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/
09:59 <Barmaley> ca?
10:03 <Avatar> combat assistant
10:06 <Avatar> it's the grid, basically
10:14 <Avatar> Ballig created it
10:17 <Barmaley> do i need to print it out?
10:21 <Avatar> no
10:28 <Avatar> you connect to the DM and the DM controls it
10:36 <Avatar> but you can see where you are etc
10:49 <Barmaley> ah kewl
10:58 <Avatar> if you want to check it out now, I'll show you how it works
11:40 <Barmaley> nah thanks, its 4am over here, im gonna go to bed in some 10 minutes or so
11:57 <Barmaley> perhaps tomorrow when ill get back from work
12:59 <Avatar> yell out when you do, someone will show you
13:14 <Barmaley> i m ight be going offtopic here but about half a year ago i started getting heavely into boardgaming, and there are those d&d crawler boardgames, i was so close to buying one
13:21 <Barmaley> legend of drizzt
13:23 <tristen> also barmaley here's a site to help: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
13:27 <Barmaley> nice thanks, i will
13:50 <Avatar> how do the board games work
14:13 <Barmaley> you get a character and then move through some gridbased dungeon
14:15 <Barmaley> its coop
14:20 <Barmaley> without a DM
14:35 <tristen> without a dm? then who do you argue with?
15:13 <tristen> well i thought it was funny...
15:14 <Barmaley> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRLJ7r3uFZA
15:23 <Barmaley> here is a review
15:35 <Avatar> haha tristen
15:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> the dnd games have a system inwhich the monsters go towards the closest and stuff
15:41 <Avatar> argue with each other !
15:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> I played the first one
16:07 <tristen> :D
16:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> and yes, there is arguing with each other, there's even some missions where your goal is to collectively get an object from a boss, but then the person back with it wins
16:31 <Barmaley> did you like it spaceshot?
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16:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> it was ok
16:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm not the biggest fan of it though
16:59 <Barmaley> which version was it?
17:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> the first one
17:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> with the orcus demon
17:12 <Barmaley> ah
17:25 <Barmaley> well the third one came out a while ago
17:32 <Barmaley> and they are supposed to get gradually better
17:39 <Barmaley> with the third one being the best of the bunch
17:41 <Avatar> it's based on 4e
18:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
19:45 <Avatar> it does look pretty good
19:51 <tristen> that legends of drizzt thing would work well in software...
19:55 <Avatar> simplified impressively
20:37 <Brunius> Mmm drizzt
20:49 <Brunius> What a badass
20:57 <Avatar> yeah I wouldn't mind trying that
20:59 <Brunius> Did I hear someone else got chucked in here from dakkadakka?
21:19 <tristen> i think barmaley yeah
21:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> barmaley a dakkadakka man?
21:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> sweet more 40k talk
21:47 <Barmaley> im not :(
21:54 <Barmaley> i was just googling for a warhammer irc channel
22:03 <Barmaley> but i do like 40k
22:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
22:16 <Brunius> Where was that channel
22:22 <Brunius> quakenet!
22:26 <Barmaley> this is all i found, brunius
22:29 <Brunius> #warhammer on quakenet
22:33 <Avatar> Brunius: he saw your post
22:37 <Avatar> in the forums
22:44 <Brunius> I know, I read the logs
22:57 <Brunius> Just trying to remember where I saw a warhams channel
23:06 <Avatar> ohhh sorry
23:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> Avatar the infamous skim reader
23:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
23:52 <Brunius> Wut a skimmer
24:07 <Barmaley> a while ago i almost bought the rpg core book for the warhammer fantasy thinking there would be a bunch of lore in it
24:10 <Barmaley> there is only very little
24:25 <Brunius> :S
24:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> there isn't much lore
24:48 <Barmaley> i thought id buy it even though id probably never play it, since i dont know any rpgers in real life
24:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
25:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> which edition, 2e or 3e
25:08 <Barmaley> third
25:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> ouch
25:14 <Barmaley> with the bazillion of chits
25:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> 3e is the one with the power cards right?
25:34 <Avatar> I didn't even skim it
25:39 <Barmaley> im not sure
25:48 <Avatar> man you guys are so critical
26:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've got 2e, and are currently playing it IRL for about a month before I go to melb
26:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> the people playing are having a blast
26:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> one guy rolled a peasant, and since I forgot to give them any form of items besides their trappings, the peasants goal is to find a job, cause he has no coin
26:56 <Barmaley> id like to play it : ,(
27:07 <Barmaley> lol
27:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's got it's ups and downs
27:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> the ups being the career system is cool
28:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> the downs being that if you want to get anything, it takes 100xp, and the suggested xp gain per session is like 5-15
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28:48 <Avatar> well well well
28:50 <Avatar> if it isn't mort
28:52 <Barmaley> _S
28:59 <Avatar> time to fire up ddo is it !
29:43 <Barmaley> so are you actually playing dnd or pathfinder?
29:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> but addictive VN has me addicted
29:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> pathfinder currently
29:54 <Avatar> we're on pathfinder 
29:56 <Brunius> Not right this second
29:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> but dnd 3.5 if someone wants to run it
30:13 <Avatar> yeah we can run anything as long as we have a DM who will run it and players who will play it
30:30 <Avatar> I think there is a misconception that only ballig mekkis and I can DM stuff
30:33 <Avatar> but anyone can
30:58 <Barmaley> i cant
30:58 <Brunius> I'm gonna DM sometime
31:10 <Avatar> yeah I thought it was brilliant that you finally DM'd a game for us brunius
31:21 <Barmaley> this is dnd 4th edition, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJN1JvnRGWE
31:22 <NotMort> tomrrow
31:24 <NotMort> I have a
31:27 <NotMort> job interview
31:32 <Avatar> nice
31:33 <NotMort> so I have to leave midgame, maybe 3 hrs into it
31:34 <NotMort> lol
31:37 <NotMort> to run for it :(
31:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> we have a really good chance of not playing 4th edition dnd
31:42 <NotMort> maybe 4 if we start on time
31:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> many here dislike it
31:50 <NotMort> I cant start DDO now I need to preapre for it
31:55 <NotMort> resume stuff and...all that stuff
31:55 <Avatar> hmm maybe we should make it 10am
31:59 <NotMort> unless you know there will be a night tonight
32:05 <NotMort> that we wont be running anything
32:09 <Avatar> why did we say 11am
32:11 <NotMort> nee dto fix my utopia province..
32:17 <NotMort> 10 am aussie time?
32:21 <Avatar> I think mekkis said something about a new player
32:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> 11am is a stretch for me, but I think mort has a better chance of playing more often
32:24 <NotMort> = 8 am SG time Im fine, I need to leave the house
32:25 <NotMort> at around 11
32:26 <Avatar> but who wanted an 11am start
32:33 <NotMort> so I have maybe 3 hr?
32:37 <NotMort> to get ot interview 
32:43 <Avatar> or 4 hours from 10am?
32:52 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2: a stretch which way?
33:02 <Avatar> is 10am impossible or is 12pm impossible
34:11 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2 wake up wake up
34:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
34:17 <NotMort> 10 am gives me 3 h
34:20 <Barmaley> are you all aussies?
34:23 <NotMort> I am sg
34:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> I mean it's a stretch in general
34:27 <NotMort> 2 hrs behind
34:34 <NotMort> probalby get someone to play me in the middle
34:37 <Avatar> mort is singaporean with a very strong accent
34:46 <Avatar> canine is uh american I think
34:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> the missus will probably want to do something tomorrow
34:55 <Avatar> and jaggedsoul is umm
34:59 <Avatar> something
35:06 <Avatar> not australian
35:19 <NotMort> what do you mean i have a strong accent
35:26 <Avatar> you have a pretty strong accent
36:17 <Barmaley> it was so strong it became sentient and walked to hollywood to become the famous british actor mark strong :)
36:31 <NotMort> hrm?
36:34 <NotMort> I didnt know I had any accent
36:38 <NotMort> I know sometimes i crack laem jokes
36:40 <NotMort> lame
36:42 <Avatar> really :P
36:58 <Avatar> your jokes are top notch
37:05 <Avatar> if that prostitute thing was any indication
38:10 <Avatar> Isendre: are you about
38:13 <NotMort> lol
38:22 <NotMort> but..u need a picture
38:25 <NotMort> Im the kinda person..
38:29 <NotMort> do what you must when the devil drives
38:40 <Avatar> I'm not joking, that prostitute situation is one of the funniest things I have ever seen happen in a game
38:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> ??
39:03 <Avatar> in one of the scenarios we were playing
39:07 <Avatar> we were trying to find some guy
39:10 <Brunius> Oh that one
39:29 <Avatar> so one of the people we gather info on, we find a male prostitute who has some information about them
39:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
39:49 <Avatar> and mort and nodwik were trying to figure out how to get the message across about who he was
39:49 <NotMort> yeah
39:53 <NotMort> so I gave him charcoal
39:57 <NotMort> told him to draw it on the floor
40:04 <Avatar> and says do you recognise this man
40:34 <Avatar> I don't think you told him to draw it, I think you drew it
40:51 <Brunius> No she told him to draw it
41:05 <Avatar> draw what the guy looked like?
41:08 <Brunius> Yeah
41:12 <Avatar> in charcoal on the road
41:19 <Brunius> Yeah
41:25 <Avatar> man either way
42:13 <NotMort> hehee
42:19 <NotMort> got a lesson in the karma sutra I think
43:17 <Avatar> it wouldn't surprise me that I read it the wrong way around, the whole thing happened so fast because we were all sort of trying to question him at once
43:33 <Avatar> rapid fire questionining led to getting him to draw a stick figure man on the road
43:36 <NotMort> lol
43:41 <NotMort> in an interesting position :)
47:06 <Brunius> sehr interessant
48:52 <Barmaley> how long does a session usually take?
49:03 <Brunius> 4 hours if we don't screw around
49:17 <Brunius> If we screw around, we usually split it into two sessions of 3 hours
49:34 <Avatar> ideally we split it into two sessions of 4 hours I think
49:38 <Avatar> allowing for some screwing around
49:53 <Avatar> but we can finish some scenarios in a single 5-odd hour session
50:56 <Barmaley> finish as in everyone gets beaten to a pulp? or kill the last big baddie?
51:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> either :P
52:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> lol brunius, can't keep to one game for more than 20mins ;P
53:06 <NotMort> I wil lneed to leave inthe middle of hten ext one sadly
53:10 <NotMort> I got interview
53:49 <Avatar> as in kill the last baddie
53:57 <Avatar> if everyone gets beaten to a pulp, it is much shorter
54:11 <NotMort> probably not on my wtach
54:13 <Avatar> I think that's why brunius has a charge-first talk-later mindset
54:13 <NotMort> wut again
54:15 <NotMort> accidents..
54:18 <NotMort> nah
54:22 <NotMort> Im quite sneaky
54:26 <NotMort> and I hate brawls :D
54:38 <Avatar> NotMort: what time do you have to leave
54:50 <NotMort> I must leave
54:53 <NotMort> at 11 am SG time
55:02 <NotMort> I am 2 hrs behind you
55:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> I also dislike the 'roll for initiative = must kill all in vicinity"
55:14 <NotMort> if you start at 10 am, its my 8 am..
55:32 <NotMort> so I need to leave by your..1pm
55:53 <Avatar> ouch
56:17 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2: you hate something about anything that is normal for everyone else
58:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> normal doesn't mean it's right
58:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> character wise, your character knows nothing of this initiative
58:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> nor the rolling of it
59:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> so it's just doesn't sound in-character to start charging a dude when the call for initiative is made
04:14 <Barmaley> what if the character is a bit damaged, like in the head
04:32 <Barmaley> hes had a severe case of being dropped on the head as a child
04:38 <Barmaley> would that explain it?
06:28 <Avatar> oh
06:36 <Avatar> if you win initiative, I think you can still do pre-combat stuff
08:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> no I know, but what if I don't go first
08:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> and a diff party member does, and when he hears initiative it's cue for him to go on a rampage
08:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> but otherwise he's normal
09:19 <Avatar> then you should educate him that he doesn't have to do that
09:26 <Avatar> but still give him the choice of doing what he wants to do
09:42 <Barmaley> ima be off to bed, gn8
09:57 <Barmaley> or good day, depending on your time zone
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43:28 <Brunius> What Avatar?
45:39 <NotMort> rampage..loll
48:32 <Avatar> what brunius
49:31 <Brunius> What charge first talk later mindset?
50:07 <Avatar> when we're in the middle of talking you'll say "i move in and attack"
50:51 <Brunius> Because you guys plan out for about a bajillion contingencies
51:08 <Avatar> even if you don't like the planning, the absolutely wrong thing to do is to charge in and not say anything
51:36 <Avatar> at a very minimum you should warn us you're about to so we can do something about it
51:44 <Avatar> instead of have us stuck at our not-at-all ready positions
52:34 <Avatar> you can always use the 5 minute rule for that
52:51 <Avatar> which, let's be clear, doesn't involve a no-warn charge
53:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> Avatar: you know of leeroy jenkins right?
53:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> that's brunius
53:18 <Avatar> yeah pretty much
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53:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> he comes back from not caring, bored, he just decides to charge in
53:55 <Avatar> it's especially odd when you've had no input about what the plan should actually be
54:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> the plan is he goes in balls deep
54:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> you follow or you don't
56:50 <Avatar> yeah one day that'll backfire and we wont'
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01:00 <Brunius> Spaceshot: Seen this? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/422519.page
03:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> not till just theen
03:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> then*
04:04 <Brunius> Thread is recommending you run your supermarket out of salt
06:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
06:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> as always
06:22 <Brunius> This is even more than usual
06:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> did you see the 3++ post about tau?
06:33 <Brunius> I don't follow 3++ man
06:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> you so should
06:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's good
07:31 <Brunius> Ballig: Looks like I'm getting an LCD today/tomorrow
07:41 <Brunius> So you can stop bagging my CRT
07:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> lol crt
07:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> LOLOLOLOLOL
07:55 <Brunius> CRTs are badass man
11:18 <Avatar> especially 11" ones
11:44 <Brunius> Yeah man
11:55 <Brunius> Did I mention it's 4:3?
14:16 <Avatar> goes without saying
15:21 <Avatar> there now I have 3 monitors
15:38 <Avatar> who's laughing NOW, Ballig ?!
16:17 <Brunius> ...
16:23 <Brunius> You know Ballig has three monitors.
16:58 <Avatar> yeah but I only had two
17:04 <Avatar> in use
17:09 <Brunius> You gonna play BF3 across all three?
17:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> wow...
17:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> hope 6th ed isn't this bad
17:30 <Brunius> Yeah
17:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> what's the point of assault guns?
17:51 <Brunius> You tell me
17:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> clearly nothing
17:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
18:13 <Avatar> what do you mean what's the point of them
18:16 <Avatar> to kill shit
18:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, I mean an assault gun over a rapid fire
18:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> or whatev
18:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> sine supposedly shooting comes after assault
18:43 <Brunius> This is warham Avatar
18:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> spacehampster
22:09 <Brunius> http://xkcd.com/244/
30:06 <Avatar> https://plus.google.com/photos/108531052526575991056/albums/5695917869353853105/5695917874828165026
37:57 <Avatar> I'm playing words with friends with a friend of a friend, he's asian
38:19 <Avatar> and he plays with a level of efficiency that makes me think he must be like those starcraft players you see in competitive gaming
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38:34 <Avatar> if I was cheating I don't think I'd be able to beat him
39:11 <Brunius> Ha
39:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> words?
39:29 <Brunius> All the people at my school freak out if they don't get an A+
39:43 <Brunius> And since it's impossible to get an A, they freak out all the time
41:36 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2: it's scrabble
41:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> ahh
41:59 <Avatar> 'words with friends', not words
42:14 <Avatar> Brunius: what are these grades
42:17 <Avatar> is that a facebook thing
42:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> but the thing is, once you start adding houserules where you need to know what the word means
42:21 <Avatar> I'm playing on my phone
42:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
42:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea some people cheat
42:40 <Avatar> there's no houserules, this is a computer game
42:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've known that
42:54 <Avatar> I don't think this guy is cheating
43:11 <Avatar> I don't think it's possible to cheat with the kinds of shit he is pulling
43:37 <Brunius> Ha
43:43 <Avatar> he is doing like 3 or 4 words at a time per move, always landing the right letters on the bonus squares
43:56 <Brunius> Are you sure he isn't a computer?
44:01 <Avatar> I consider myself pretty good but he is blowing me out of the water
44:06 <Avatar> yeah he's not a computer
44:12 <Avatar> human computer maybe
44:35 <Brunius> We're a year ahead, Avatar, so we're marked down one grade. A gets marked on the form as a B, B as C, etc.
45:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
45:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> Avatar: don't underestimate people's ability to use scrabble compilers
50:16 <Avatar> Brunius: shouldn't you be marked up a grade if you're a year ahead
51:09 <Brunius> We're on the roll as year 10s, but the grading system counts us as year 9s
51:39 <Brunius> So when the teacher marks an A on the reports, it comes out of the printer as a B
51:47 <Brunius> Don't ask me to justify it, that's just what I'm told
54:36 <Avatar> sounds like broken excel formulae
15:32 <Avatar> erm
15:40 <Avatar> apparently the way season 1 & 2 scenarios work
15:44 <Avatar> the ones with two faction missions
15:55 <Avatar> is that by completing those faction missions, you're effectively done with the scenario
16:27 <Avatar> as long as you also get through at least 3 encounters for the requisite exp as well
16:33 <Avatar> but you don't actually have to complete it
17:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> hah
27:19 <Avatar> maybe that's how you're meant to finish darkest vengeance
27:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> could be
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40:03 <Thawne> hi
40:14 <Avatar> yo
40:33 <Thawne> i am in for game tomorrow. at 10am yea ?
41:03 <Avatar> yeah
41:12 <Avatar> possibly as late as 11, but I think we're aiming for 10
41:20 <Avatar> which we can confirm better when mekkis gets in
42:26 <Thawne> with pregen 1shot chars, or prgression chars ?
42:46 <Avatar> progression
43:43 <Avatar> we only got half way through last week's game didn't we?
44:26 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Thurs 10am (new game, Mekkis) / Sat 10am (game in progress, Mekkis) | CoTE: Sun 10am || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net/
44:38 <Thawne> just the entry of the flame shrine, killed undead. thats it
45:01 <Avatar> oh wait, that was CoTE
45:25 <Thawne> i was playing a Cavalier of the Sword dogooder
45:26 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Thurs 10am (new game, Mekkis) / Sat 10am | CoTE: Sun 10am || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net/
45:39 <Avatar> yeah
45:46 <Thawne> and my horse tanked the encounter
47:05 <Thawne> that char was a pregen and need work if i want to make it a main progression char
47:24 <Thawne> or ditch it and start again
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39:42 <Ballig> Thawne: you get to apply the experience from that module to any character you own
39:59 <Ballig> so you can create your own character separate to the cavalier and get experience with it
40:39 <Thawne> looking at an overzealous paladin right now. stuck on skills and feats. dont know how system works
41:40 <Ballig> what sort of stuff do you want to do
43:13 <Thawne> strong melee. good willpower stuff like sense motive(?)
43:39 <Ballig> power attack is great for strong melee
44:39 <Thawne> human pali; power attack and weapon focus ?
46:00 <Thawne> looking at some pregen paladins and trying to cobble together best parts from each
46:31 <Ballig> can't fault power attack and weapon focus
46:49 <Ballig> just be careful on the weapon focus, you want to be sure that the weapon you choose is going to be useful to you
46:59 <Thawne> longsword
47:29 <Ballig> plan to go longsword + shield? or two hands on the longsword?
47:36 <Ballig> (you get extra damage if you use two hands on it)
48:07 <Thawne> sword + shield i reckon
48:39 <Ballig> when you use two hands on a weapon you get 1.5x strength to damage instead of just strength
48:55 <Ballig> so say you have +2 strength, you would get 1d8+3 instead of 1d8+2 if you use both hands on the sword
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49:04 <Thawne> are shields good in this system ?
49:21 <Ballig> it basically comes down to whether you want extra defence or extra damage
50:46 <Thawne> maybe the 2handed hammer wielding zealot trusting in divine protection might fit my concept better
51:00 <Ballig> ha
51:10 <Thawne> i wanna crack heads of heretics
51:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> battle oracle seems up your alley
52:05 <Ballig> he's looking at paladin
53:05 <Thawne> i dont mind, as long as it is overzealous and can justifiably burn heretics and spawn of evil
53:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> ah
53:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> paladin can also do it
53:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> depends on how strong he wants his spell casting to be though
53:44 <Thawne> but the class mechanics have got to be simple. no casting, all melee
53:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> because?
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57:28 <Thawno> disconnected ?
57:39 <Ballig> seems so
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58:42 <Thawno> where can i post a char for review ?
58:59 <Thawno> and by review i mean total rework to make it good
59:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> give ballig the character name
59:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> and he'll make a page (you might also need an account if you don't have one)
00:01 <Thawno> account is Thawne. name will be something similar
00:51 <Ballig> you already have a character named Thawne on the site
00:52 <Ballig> just upload to t hat
01:00 <Ballig> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=334
05:28 <Brunius> yo
07:40 <Thawno> uploaded
32:02 <MekkisScreen> !recentsheets
32:02 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-01-09 03:55 289 Mort
32:03 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-01-08 02:21 324 <title>#d&amp;d - Buck1 - View Character</title>
32:03 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-01-07 16:37 338 Jax
32:03 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-01-07 13:50 335 Morgrym
32:03 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-01-07 09:12 337 Snake
32:52 <MekkisScreen> !findchar Snake
32:54 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: Snake, number: 337( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=337 )
34:06 <MekkisScreen> !findchar Jax
34:07 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: Jax, number: 29338( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=29338 )
36:45 <Ballig> Avatar: http://i.imgur.com/MUv6r.jpg
37:46 <Thawno> this might be old news for yous: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/arts/video-games/dungeons-dragons-remake-uses-players-input.html?_r=1
39:40 <Ballig> I like that they refer to it as a reboot
43:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> 5th ed?
43:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
59:49 <Brunius> "On Monday, Wizards of the Coast, the Hasbro subsidiary that owns the game..."
59:57 <Brunius> Oh god, they're a Hasbro subsidiary>
59:57 <Brunius> ?
00:06 <Ballig> yeah
00:09 <MekkisScreen> you didn't know that?
00:43 <Brunius> Nope
00:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> they've been like that for ages
01:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> ages as in like 10+ years
01:26 <Brunius> My respect for WotC just keeps falling
05:18 <MekkisScreen> Wizards doesn't have a very good policy to keep staff
05:42 <MekkisScreen> they sack 5% of the workforce each year
05:58 <Brunius> Nice 1
07:32 <Brunius> What do you guys think of torrenting OSes?
07:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> which OSes?
07:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> windows? unix? Mac?
08:23 <MekkisScreen> I prefer downloading via http
08:53 <MekkisScreen> but if you want to torrent, knock yourself out
12:43 <Brunius> Win 7, probably
13:05 <Ballig> Brunius: they overcharge for OSes, I see no moral problem with torrenting it
13:40 <Brunius> Yeah, I can't really afford $300 for Windows 7
16:55 <Brunius> Hey sweet
17:06 <Brunius> I could have the cash for a shadowsword by april
17:56 <Brunius> Avatar/Mekkis : I might end up going to morning sessions only for arcanacon
18:05 <Brunius> Transport home is just too much of a bitch
18:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> shadowsword? that inlcude you buying my stuff?
18:34 <Brunius> Yep
18:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> ok then, go nuts
18:42 <Brunius> $125 for you, $60 for arc
18:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> though I thought baneblade was so much better than shadowsword
19:13 <Brunius> Remaining - $15 in bank, $10 at home, plus $20 a month
19:23 <Brunius> I can get a shadowsword from america for $79.20
19:27 <Thelen> :o
19:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> what shop?
19:40 <Brunius> bitzbarn
19:59 <Brunius> It's even better than maelstrom!
20:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> I thought they stopped international trading of GW minis
20:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> or was that just in UK
20:23 <Brunius> They stopped shipping out of europe
20:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> ah
20:37 <Brunius> None of the US retailers are allowed to have BNIB items on the internet
20:46 <Brunius> These guys take it out of the box and stick it on the internet
20:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> BNIB?
21:03 <Brunius> Brand New In Box
21:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> ahh
21:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> so they just give you everything but the box?
21:23 <Brunius> Yep
21:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
21:56 <Brunius> I should buy a roll of bubble wrap
22:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> ???
22:13 <Brunius> How the heck am I going to transport this?
22:25 <Brunius> Answer - stick it in a computer case with bubblewrap
22:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> depends how much cash you have
22:44 <Brunius> Not enough for a case
22:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
23:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> battlefoam have good superheavy trays
23:11 <Brunius> They're supar expensive though
23:21 <Brunius> IIRC battlefoam was how you figured out I played 40k
25:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> possibly
25:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> does ring a bell
27:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm not sure if I need a better case, but I do require a way to transport all my made stuff to melbourne without breaking
27:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> and I do have a bit
28:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> too much to fit in my normal/small sized GW case
28:25 <Brunius> Fly it back and forth one case at a time
28:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
28:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> It'd be cheaper buying a battlefoam case
29:02 <Brunius> Or hire Mekkis to invent teleportation
29:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> not gonna pay mekkis
29:29 <Brunius> You hear that, Mekkis? He doesn't want teleportation!
30:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, don't want to pay him for it
35:42 <Ballig> as if you wouldn't
36:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> who would want to pay mekkis
36:57 <Brunius> Who wouldn't
37:10 <Ballig> if the options were A.) Pay Mekkis and get teleportation; or 2.) Don't pay Mekkis and don't get teleportation
37:17 <Ballig> I'm sure 97.25% of the world would choose option A
37:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure would
37:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> but I don't want to pay him
37:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'd still do it, doesn't mean I want to do it
37:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> I want teleportation
37:53 <Ballig> you said you wouldn't
38:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> never said wouldn't
38:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> [07:59.00] <Brunius> Or hire Mekkis to invent teleportation
38:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> [07:59.10] <Spaceshot_tm2> not gonna pay mekkis
38:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> [07:59.27] <Brunius> You hear that, Mekkis? He doesn't want teleportation!
38:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> [08:00.28] <Spaceshot_tm2> no, don't want to pay him for it
38:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> [08:05.40] <Ballig> as if you wouldn't
38:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> [08:06.39] <Spaceshot_tm2> who would want to pay mekkis
38:23 <Ballig> [8:29:00 PM] <Spaceshot_tm2> not gonna pay mekkis
38:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> cause this day and age clarrification of ones own words is against the law
20:33 <Brunius> Sweet scammed a +4 lb off someone
20:57 <Ballig> drugs?
21:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> ??
23:37 <Brunius> He was like "Help I can't sell this even at half price!" and I was like "trollface.jpg"
24:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> wtf are you smoking
25:23 <Ballig> drugs
25:38 <Brunius> DDO Spaceshot_tm2
25:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> wait... a +4 light blade?
25:54 <Brunius> longbow
25:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh even better
25:59 <Ballig> I assumed you were saying pounds
26:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> same
26:05 <Brunius> Ha
26:10 <Ballig> 4 pounds of drugs
26:21 <Brunius> Yeah, scammed a +4 pounds of someone...
26:22 <Brunius> wtf?
26:31 <Brunius> I can see why you thought I was smoking now
26:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
26:51 <Brunius> In other news, it took 8 puffs of ventolin to get my asthma under control this morning
27:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> druggy
27:17 <Ballig> are you on a preventer
27:20 <Brunius> I am now
27:24 <Brunius> I wasn't this morning
27:25 <Ballig> symbicort?
27:29 <Brunius> Seretide
27:35 <Ballig> ah, I've been on seretide before
27:41 <Brunius> Yay, steroids!
27:44 <Ballig> I found symbicort works better for me because it's both a reliever and preventer in one
29:45 <Avatar> zzz
30:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> snorer
30:16 <Brunius> Avatar get on DDO
30:24 <Avatar> I just woke up
30:27 <Brunius> Napper
30:27 <Avatar> who else is on
30:34 <Avatar> naps are the best
30:34 <Brunius> I will be if you get on
30:43 <Avatar> I will get on soon
34:16 <Avatar> Thawno: did you see the character sheet templates on the site
34:58 <Brunius> Might not be around on Saturday
35:38 <Ballig> why not
35:50 <Brunius> Because I consider shooting people superior to PFS
36:00 <Avatar> that's where you're wrong
36:03 <Avatar> think of the exp
36:10 <Ballig> are you shooting people with real bullets
36:15 <Brunius> Shooting people 1/month and playing PFS 3/month is how I roll
36:27 <Brunius> Nerf darts, Ballig
36:34 <Ballig> not even paintball pellets?
36:36 <Brunius> Nope
36:41 <Ballig> nerf darts don't leave bruises do they?
36:45 <Brunius> Not allowed to until I'm 18, here
36:49 <Brunius> Not stock
36:54 <Brunius> We use heavily modified though
36:54 <Ballig> seems boring
37:01 <Brunius> I get some nice bruises after each war
38:20 <Avatar> can't you shoot people on the sunday
38:38 <Brunius> They decided to schedule this one for a saturday
38:41 <Brunius> It's usually sundays
38:55 <Avatar> okay so switch this weekend and next weekend
39:03 <Avatar> win-win
40:04 <Brunius> It's not every weekend
40:11 <Brunius> I might not go because my asthma is playing up
40:12 <Ballig> make it next weekend
45:05 <Avatar> Mekkis: are you about
55:10 <Avatar> tough crowd
58:43 <Brunius> You're a tough crowd
01:41 <Avatar> only when I'm asleep
02:34 <Brunius> True, true
17:07 <Thawno> what happened to thac0 ?
17:54 <Brunius> thac0
18:00 <Brunius> That seems familiar.
18:03 <Brunius> 2nd ed?
19:15 <Brunius> That's to hit modifiers now
19:19 <Brunius> It's handled a little differently
19:52 <Brunius> You've got your base attack bonus, strength, etc that add to your to hit mod, then your roll a d20+to hit
20:06 <Brunius> if that's >= your opponent's armour class, you hit
20:36 <Brunius> I suppose thac0 is the old base attack bonus
20:45 <Thawno> yea, figured its still in there, just handled in another way
20:48 <Avatar> it's your total attack bonus (TAB) vs their AC
21:24 <Thawno> thac0 was the defining stat when i played DnD in the '80s
22:09 <Brunius> I think that's BAB now
23:57 <Avatar> BAB + str or dex + other bonuses = TAB
26:10 <Thawno> uploaded char. needs work, lots of stuff i dont understand
26:13 <Thawno> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=334
27:07 <Brunius> Chuck it out here if you don't understand
27:10 <Brunius> We'll clear it up
28:35 <Thawno> on 2nd thoughts. i might be trying too hard with this fanatic paladin concept
29:13 <Thawno> what really wins games is a guy that can fight, stealth, and climb. all the rest is just filler
30:58 <MekkisScreen> i'm somewhat here, Avatar 
32:28 <Avatar> 10am tomorrow
32:36 <Avatar> mort has to be gone by 1
32:57 <MekkisScreen> k
33:01 <MekkisScreen> ok
33:07 <Avatar> do you know if anyone else absolutely needed 11
33:14 <Avatar> I can't remember why we changed it
33:15 <MekkisScreen> no
33:26 <MekkisScreen> becuase you put 11 in
33:34 <Avatar> well that's handy
33:49 <MekkisScreen> I asked for 10:30...
34:02 <Avatar> 11 is still my preference too
34:07 <Avatar> but not if it means we'd be one player short
34:15 <Avatar> play play play !
34:26 <MekkisScreen> great
34:33 <MekkisScreen> run something at 1!
34:47 <Avatar> can do
51:14 <Avatar> it occurs to me I probably could have fixed Cairo's entire build if I decided to channel negative energy rather than positive energy
52:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> but you'd have to be neutral
54:17 <Avatar> yeah that is no issue
57:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can be within 1 step can't you?
59:38 <Avatar> it's a 30ft radius
59:57 <Brunius> He means of deity I think
00:15 <Avatar> oh, alignment
00:20 <Avatar> no idea
00:34 <Avatar> you can't be evil, so neutral would be it
01:17 <Brunius> Yeah
01:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, I mean to keep the same god
01:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> brunius was on the same track :P
02:44 <Avatar> you were on the right track brunius you were born that way
02:53 <Brunius> Fu---
04:43 <Mekkis> Hmmm
04:56 <Mekkis> not sure what happens when you change alignment
05:07 <Brunius> Ask Darkwhite
05:11 <Mekkis> I will
05:17 <Mekkis> I'm writing him an email now
07:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> also ask him what happens when you have TWF, but then get a vestial arm
07:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> if you are then a non-allowed player
07:41 <Mekkis> TWF the action, or TWF the feat?
07:48 <Avatar> the feat
07:54 <Avatar> you don't "have" the action
08:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> the feat
08:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> also, ask him if he'd allow the TWF with 2 two-handed weapons
09:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> since you happily follow his rulings XD
09:13 <Mekkis> TWF feat or TWF action
10:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> action, it's relevant negatives, and if the feat helps it
10:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> if so what to
10:32 <Brunius> night yo
10:38 Brunius is now known as Brunius_AFK
10:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> using 2 vestigial arms XD
10:56 <Mekkis> I don't take his rulings more seriously than anything I'd read on the boards
11:04 <Mekkis> however, that wouldn't be my question
11:07 <Mekkis> my question is:
11:14 <Avatar> The Exact Words
14:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm?
15:15 <Mekkis> "One of my players is being rather difficult, and is trying to make an alchemist with two vestigial arms wielding two two-handed weapons. He believes that by having the two-weapon fighting feat will allow him to reduce some penalties. As I see it, the questions regarding the damage output, and even the character's legality (TWF feat gets "replaced" by Multiweapon Fighting when the character gets three arms) will be put to question and left to a GM 
15:15 <Mekkis> call, and have suggested that he not do this. He is undeterred, however. How should I proceed?"
15:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> you have to also say that it's PFS so MWF feat isn't allowed by players
16:01 <Mekkis> he knows
16:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmk
16:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> but that doesn't really fix any issues
16:30 <Mekkis> yes it does
16:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, it doesn't fix anything for me to work with other GMs
17:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> it only fixes it for you
17:08 <Mekkis> how do you mean
17:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> I doubt he'll show you where it does or doesn't work
17:45 <Mekkis> if the answer is "if he plays at your table with an illegal character, report it as "character died"", then it will be a permanent fix
18:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> again, doesn't fix
18:06 <Mekkis> how so?
18:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> how does that help the character? or character concept?
18:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> it doesn't
18:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's just something a GM can do easily just because it's easy
19:00 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
19:08 <Mekkis> it's a fix to MY problem
19:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> YOU don't have a problem
19:25 <Mekkis> yes I do
19:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> YOU can veto the character in question
19:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> since I don't have any resputible proof to the concept/build
19:48 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
20:23 <Mekkis> If I'm told to report an illegal character as "dead", then that character cannot play in PFS again.
20:26 <Mekkis> as he's dead
20:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> stop asking what I mean
20:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> you know what I mean
20:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> this is all well and good for the GM
20:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> but it doesn't fix any questions about the build
21:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> answer any questions*
21:06 <Mekkis> YOUR problem seems to be that you want to do something that isn't specified in the rules, and depends on GM call
21:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> it isn't specified by the rules either way
21:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> there is no explicit against, and there isn't enough holeless evidence for
21:54 <Mekkis> MY problem is that I'll be required to make such a call, and act accordingly.
22:34 <Avatar> just veto it mekkis
22:35 <Avatar> LOL
22:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> or, you could ask does TWF feat get replaced by MWF feat for someone with vestigial arms
22:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> in PFS
22:49 <Avatar> problem solved
22:52 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2, that's not within his domain...
23:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> why isn't it?
23:16 <Mekkis> my other problem, Spaceshot_tm2, is that you fail to understand that if there's a rule in contention, you have NO recourse if the GM rules the other way.
23:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> how isn't it his domain to make the call?
23:58 <Mekkis> ever wondered why so few people use illusion(Figment) spells?
24:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, never cared
24:57 <Avatar> neither have I
31:19 <Mekkis> it isn't his domain to make the call, because he isn't in the position to make such rules
31:40 <Mekkis> and even if he was, his call wouldn't have any far-reaching effect until it hit errata or an FAQ or a book
32:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> but this more of a PFS ruling (at least my TWF feat being replaced ordeal) than a normal ruling
32:28 <Mekkis> how so?
32:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> ...
32:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> that is starting to get irritating
32:57 <Mekkis> IF he was your DM, and IF this wasn't PFS, then he would be in a position to make such a rule
33:13 <Mekkis> BECAUSE this is PFS, and because he isn't your ONLY DM, he isn't
33:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, but since he is higher up, he may know more about the subject
33:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> and thus give more details about it
34:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> since I really doubt there is a PFS specific FAQ containing questions about PFS specific issues that in a normal game wouldn't really occur (such as monster feats replacing non-monster feats when certain conditions are met)
34:50 <Mekkis> this sort of thing would happen in a normal game
35:02 <Mekkis> in a normal game, the DM makes the call
35:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> yes, but in a normal game the player does have the ability to get the monster feat, that is just the DMs call
35:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> in PFS the player has no ability to get the monster feat, thus it's not up to the DM
35:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> the DM can't say "yes you can take MWF feat"
35:55 <Mekkis> and it's also not up to the local VC
36:00 <Mekkis> how does that help?
36:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, but as I previously said (I'd really hope you keep up) the local VC is a good person to talk to about PFS specific issues
36:24 <Mekkis> EVEN IF he makes a ruling in your favour, it won't carry weight with all DMs, so you're back in square one.
36:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> since he may know more about the matter
36:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm more curious as to his knowledge on the issue, rather than spouting a ruling
37:05 <Mekkis> oh
37:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> and if he knows of a ruling that would be of use
37:14 <Mekkis> it's an academic question then?
37:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> not that he'd make one up
37:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> practically
37:39 <Mekkis> good to know
37:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's more of does he know a way that it could work in PFS besides not taking vestigial arm WITH TWF feat
37:55 <Mekkis> I'll throw my concerns about that to the place where such concerns are valid
38:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> which is?
38:26 <Mekkis> oh
38:40 <Mekkis> I'll bring it up with him when I see him, probably over breakfast
38:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmk
38:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> which is in 2 weeks right?
44:04 <Avatar> just send him a damn email
44:13 <Avatar> why is this still being talked about
44:26 <Avatar> he replied to my last email within like 15 minutes
44:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> you mean me?
44:43 <Avatar> you'll do
44:44 <Avatar> either or
44:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> fuck knows who darkwhite is besides local VC XD
44:55 <Avatar> who's more concerned
44:57 <Avatar> LOL
45:12 <Avatar> it sounds like you two have two different issues to ask about !
45:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> though supposedly VCs know a lot about PFS and thus would be there to ask PFS specific questions, or point you in the right direction
45:49 <Avatar> correct
46:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> how about you do it avatar?
46:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> email him that is?
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55:15 <Avatar> I don't care enough
55:30 <Mekkis> because it's not your problem
55:33 <Avatar> I would actually prefer to rule to say you can't use it 
55:42 <Avatar> considering what the VC on paizo said
55:43 <Mekkis> actually, it's not a problem at all
55:59 <Avatar> unlike some people, I don't need the opinion of a local VC :P
55:59 <Mekkis> the only problem at the moment is that you're not accepting this and moving on
56:09 <Tashes> Someone pinged me?
56:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> Mekkis: there is a problem
56:19 <Tashes> I wish you'd do that when i wasn't out
56:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> there is no flatout rules pointing eitherway
56:50 <Mekkis> that's a good reason NOT to do it
56:52 <Avatar> yeah I pinged you
56:53 <Avatar> you're ALWAYS out
56:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> Avatar: where was the VC on paizo?
56:58 <Avatar> are you playing tomorrow morning
57:02 <Tashes> Cos i have a life Avatar!
57:09 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> the only problem at the moment is that you're not accepting this and moving on
57:12 <Avatar> oh don't pull that coz I have a life garbage on me
57:27 <Avatar> if you had a life you would be playing some sweet PFS with the community
57:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> [11:26.33] <Spaceshot_tm2> there is no flatout rules pointing eitherway
57:44 <Mekkis> then don't do it
57:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> but there isn't a no
58:04 <Tashes> If the pfs community had a life they wouldnt play when i was out!
58:10 <Mekkis> there's a "some DMs might say 'no'"
58:25 <Mekkis> that's close enough to a no for something that could make your character illegal
58:30 <Tashes> Mekkis, just DMhand Spaceshot a slap in the face :D
58:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> there is that because the answers I'm getting on the forums are questioning the build, or the specific weapon in use
58:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> not about the question in had
59:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> hand*
59:06 <Mekkis> Tashes, I would, if he was within reach
59:17 <Mekkis> unfortunately, you can't punch people over the internet
59:31 <Tashes> would you have any idea what his real name is?
59:37 <Mekkis> yes
59:38 <Tashes> 'cos i can probably arrange something..
59:43 <Tashes> he doenst live far from me...
59:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> he probably does know
59:45 <Mekkis> he's a lot less of a dick IRL
59:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> I am
59:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't know why I get dick mode over the internet
00:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> beats being a whiny emo fuck
00:11 <Mekkis> I wish you'd try to curb it
00:40 <Avatar> Tashes: here's a better question
00:42 <Avatar> when are you home
00:51 <Tashes> idk..
01:10 <Avatar> exactly !!
01:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> Mekkis: curb the dicketry?
01:52 <Mekkis> I'd need to look that word up before I gave an affirmative or negative response
02:15 <Mekkis> sounds about right
02:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
05:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> ok...
05:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm with an agreeance
05:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> the forums are full of people who don't understand the rules properly, or who CBF
05:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> but still post rules based questions
05:52 <Mekkis> like you?
06:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
06:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> a VC
06:27 <Mekkis> hey
06:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm?
06:40 <Mekkis> knowing /all/ the rules isn't required for a VC
06:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> no I know
06:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> just stating he's a VC is all
06:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> Bob Jonquet
07:23 <Mekkis> I can bring up several counts where DarkWhite made the wrong ruling
07:50 <Mekkis> but it wouldn't achieve anything other than an attack on him, and I'd rather not
08:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> basically, str damage doesn't effect carrying weight, or at the least every -2 str would give it -1
08:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> just reading forums, it's quite funny some times
09:58 <Mekkis> see why I don't trust them
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10:37 <ChuckBrowneyes> sup niggas
10:55 <snypt> niggas?
11:07 <ChuckBrowneyes> werd
11:14 <ChuckBrowneyes> :p
11:20 <snypt> indeed
11:26 <Avatar> chuck
11:27 <Avatar> snypt
11:30 <Avatar> get your characters ready
11:32 <Avatar> at 10am, we PLAY
11:47 <snypt> normal people are at work at 10am
11:57 <ChuckBrowneyes> tomorrow
12:00 <Avatar> since when have you been normal
12:10 <Avatar> yeah tomorrow
12:12 <ChuckBrowneyes> u mean fri 10am
12:21 <ChuckBrowneyes> yeah i dunno if possible soz
12:25 <Avatar> no, thurs 10am
12:33 <Avatar> today tomorrow
13:08 <ChuckBrowneyes> thing is tho
13:19 <ChuckBrowneyes> do i have to start at lvl 1 or what
13:24 <Avatar> yes
13:25 <ChuckBrowneyes> wont i be useless to party
13:30 <Avatar> no
13:33 <Mekkis> party will be at approx level 1
13:43 <ChuckBrowneyes> is everyone starting at 1
13:54 <ChuckBrowneyes> otherwise i just wouldnt hit shit
13:55 <Avatar> my character will be a late level 2er
14:07 <ChuckBrowneyes> whats roll rules
14:09 <Avatar> I think everyone is level 1 or 2
14:15 <ChuckBrowneyes> is there limit to amont of rolls
14:16 <Avatar> do you have the PFS guide
14:24 <Avatar> it's 20 point buy for abilities, no rolls
14:25 <Mekkis> 20 point buy
14:32 <ChuckBrowneyes> or do people just roll till they get 18/00 str
14:33 <Avatar> grab a character sheet template from the site
14:39 <ChuckBrowneyes> oh yeah i havnt played with these new rules
14:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh boy
14:43 <Avatar> do you know what point buy is
14:50 <ChuckBrowneyes> i havnt played for years
14:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> it shows :P
14:58 <Avatar> okay, well start with the PFS guide
15:02 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2: behave
15:03 <ChuckBrowneyes> well its changed alot lol
15:26 <Avatar> go here: http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
15:42 <Avatar> you want the Pathfinder Society Guide
15:57 <Avatar> actually, you want pretty much everything there
16:09 <Avatar> except an IRC client, since you already have that
17:21 Mekkis sets mode -R Mekkis
17:32 <ChuckBrowneyes> do u guys do it in skype or voice
17:50 <Avatar> IRC, but skype's handy if you've got it
17:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> IRC is in-character
17:54 <ChuckBrowneyes> how much has it all changed anyway
17:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> skype is planning/banter
18:06 <Avatar> when did you last play
18:08 <ChuckBrowneyes> will i be totally fucked from the rules 8 yrs ago
18:16 <Avatar> what* did you last play
18:47 <ChuckBrowneyes> i spose the most recent d&d rules i was exposed to would have been the ruleset in baldurs gate 2
19:13 <Avatar> have you played pen and paper d&d before
19:33 <ChuckBrowneyes> not d%d other ones
19:40 <ChuckBrowneyes> but table tops yes
19:49 <Avatar> do you know what edition
21:17 <ChuckBrowneyes> old man 2nd edition
21:28 <ChuckBrowneyes> it really sounds like it has changed alot
21:43 <Avatar> yeah that's pretty old
21:49 <Avatar> but thawne is doing the same thing
22:02 <Avatar> get a character sheet and the PFS guide and I'll walk you through it
22:07 <Avatar> let me know when you've got them
22:35 <ChuckBrowneyes> i really doubt i can play at 10am anyway man...
23:10 <Avatar> whatever, that's only tomorrow
23:15 <Avatar> you still need a character to play ever
26:28 <ChuckBrowneyes> what other times do u play
27:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> whenever there is enough people to play, someone to DM and at least 4hrs
28:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> usually once or twice on the weekends
28:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> have been known to do more
29:00 <Avatar> when can you play
29:08 <Avatar> we adapt to everyone's schedule where possible
29:17 <ChuckBrowneyes> probly usually late
29:25 <Avatar> like when, what days
40:06 <ChuckBrowneyes> it varies so much man
40:11 <ChuckBrowneyes> its just when i get a chance tbh
40:17 <ChuckBrowneyes> sorry for late reply
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