// #d&d — 2012-01-24
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00:00:28 <Mort-> you have options
00:00:35 <Mort-> run out of options u can do like my poor whizzie does
00:00:39 <Mort-> and use range touch :P
00:00:49 <Mort-> whats the diff if it relaly comes ot that
00:01:05 <Mort-> my wizzie on conservative fighting mode just does cantrips >.<
00:01:21 <Mekkis> Mort-, the reason your wizard runs out of options is a) because she's universalist; and b) because she has a familiar.
00:01:38 <Mekkis> there. I said it.
00:01:52 <Mort-> ah
00:02:06 <Mort-> how does bonded item change anything curious
00:02:12 <Mekkis> the fact that she's low-level expands to issue
00:02:14 <Mort-> anwyay eehe :P
00:02:15 <Mort-> yeah
00:02:21 <Mort-> but I alwyas have acid flasks to throw..
00:02:21 <Mort-> :D
00:02:25 <Mekkis> bonded item allows casting of another spell each day
00:02:43 <Mort-> ah k
00:02:44 <Mort-> what level?
00:02:45 <Mort-> all?
00:02:52 <Mort-> (doesnt really matter) - my choice is made
00:03:40 <Mekkis> highest
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00:35:48 <Avatar> hm is it worth downloading a whole season of macguyver if it's on freeleech
00:40:08 <Mort-> okie magus time to get to business
00:44:02 <Mort-> Benefit: The magus can deliver ray spells that feature a ranged touch attack as melee touch spells. He can use a ranged touch attack spell that targets more than one creature (such as scorching ray), but he makes only one melee touch attack to deliver one of these ranged touch effects; additional ranged touch attacks from that spell are wasted and have no effect. These spells can be used with the
00:44:03 <Mort-> spellstrike class feature.
00:44:03 <Mort-> hrmm
00:44:17 <Mort-> does that mean when you shoot rays out if you have 3 only one hits?
00:50:56 <Mekkis> it means that if you're CL11, your scorching ray does 4d6 damage
00:51:07 <Mekkis> rather than three rays doing a total of 12d6 damage
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00:58:00 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Jan 21 19:54:01 2012
01:02:38 <Hydrazine> so, better to stick to ray spells that only do a single ray?
01:31:43 <Avatar> yep
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22:25:45 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Jan 24 11:18:30 2012
22:25:53 <Avatar> tristen: your correct sheet is the one without the absurd amount of prestige on it
22:26:26 <Mekkis> Avatar, how many corpses?
22:26:35 <Avatar> 1
22:26:56 <tristen> 1 very bloodied corpse
22:27:03 <Mekkis> who?
22:27:10 <tristen> gogg/jaggedsoul
22:27:12 <Thelen> http://www.jadeswetpanties.com/
22:27:14 <Thelen> lol
22:27:16 <Mekkis> Desna weeps
22:27:20 <Thelen> fucking youtube
22:27:26 <Mekkis> he was a good piece of meat
22:27:29 <tristen> i'm not clicking that link
22:27:39 <Thelen> its only text
22:27:42 <tristen> mekkis: he was and he played him well
22:29:07 <Mekkis> Nightmare liked him
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22:29:40 <tristen> he had like +15 on intimidate rolls :D
22:30:08 <tristen> ironically the only chink in his armour was his ac
22:30:18 <Mekkis> heh
22:30:24 <Mekkis> and his will save
22:30:43 <tristen> right!
22:30:51 <Mekkis> hopefully he'll keep playing PFS...
22:31:05 <tristen> oh he will - he's already thinking about gogg v2
22:31:05 <mort-> who?
22:31:13 <tristen> jagged
22:31:14 <mort-> urm well I spatted :P
22:31:20 <mort-> ah
22:31:47 <Thelen> well im off
22:31:54 <tristen> cya matey gg :D
22:31:56 <Thelen> i'll be around tomorrow
22:32:08 <Thelen> im half minded about still going to anacron
22:32:23 <Thelen> without having more chars
22:32:29 <Thelen> but i guess i can just go and see
22:32:34 <Thelen> $60 isn' tmuch
22:33:32 <Avatar> Thelen: how much for that sword
22:33:58 <tristen> i think he said this:
22:33:59 <tristen> <Thelen> Mwk Bastard sword 335
22:34:05 <Avatar> that's not it
22:34:27 <tristen> oh soz dunno
22:35:20 <tristen> hey this whole aoo on a ranged attack when in melee
22:35:30 <tristen> is there any way it can be avoided?
22:35:45 <Avatar> Please note that players can (and are
22:35:45 <Avatar> encouraged to) share or pool their resources in order to
22:35:45 <Avatar> bring a dead party member back to life. They may not,
22:35:45 <Avatar> however, pool Prestige Points to do so, even if they’re from
22:35:45 <Avatar> the same faction. PCs can also sell off gear at 50% of its
22:35:45 <Avatar> listed value to raise money to purchase a spell that will
22:35:45 <Avatar> return their slain ally from the dead, though they can
22:35:45 <Avatar> only do so in a settlement and they cannot sell off any
22:35:45 <Avatar> items found during the current scenario that they haven’t
22:35:45 <Avatar> purchased. PCs that die during a scenario receive full
22:35:45 <Avatar> XP for that scenario, so long as they played at least three
22:35:46 <Avatar> encounters before dying and being brought back to life.
22:35:58 <Avatar> I think there is a high level feat that lets you avoid it
22:36:05 <Avatar> I was reading about it with gunslinger
22:36:19 <tristen> yeah i think ballig or mekkis may have said what it was but i can't remember...
22:36:42 <Hydrazine> Tris, there are a few feats for it, but I think most are either gunslinger or fighter specific.
22:36:46 <Avatar> might have been this I was thinking of: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/deft-shootist-deed-grit
22:36:53 <Hydrazine> crossbow mastery does it, i believe theres one for bows too.
22:36:55 <tristen> yeah i think i vaguely recall being a bit disappointed by it
22:37:01 <Hydrazine> snap shot works the other way i think.
22:38:20 <tristen> yeah snap shots don't provoke an aoo when, er, making an aoo
22:40:32 <Hydrazine> ...with snap shot, you could get in melee range on another ranged, wait for him to shoot, and aoo him?
22:41:01 <tristen> yes i don't see why you couldn't
22:41:29 <Lord> do houserules allow me to take monk vows?
22:42:30 <tristen> and hydrazine: i dont think your opponent would have to be necessarily making a ranged attack
22:42:58 <Hydrazine> well if he just melee swung at you, you wouldn't get an aoo.
22:43:06 <Avatar> Lord: no
22:43:07 <tristen> sorry lord i dunno
22:43:11 <Lord> naw
22:43:13 <Avatar> house rules don't really work in PFS for the most part
22:43:27 <tristen> hydrazine: ah yeah
22:43:52 <Hydrazine> but it would work on a caster too.
22:43:52 <tristen> i think the key thing is you could ready an action - maybe wait for someone to move into your melee space
22:43:52 <Avatar> Thelen: wake up
22:44:00 <tristen> take an aoo
22:44:31 <tristen> and then, hmmm, see it sucks?
22:45:01 <tristen> avatar i think thelen has gone this time...
22:46:23 <tristen> i suppose rangers can't get that ability because it would be a bit silly to treat a bow as a melee weapon - the advantage is ranged - otherwise why would you go with bow instead of sword?
22:46:31 <tristen> if that makes sense...
22:47:36 <tristen> so avatar - what's your thoughts on "bringing back the gogg?"
22:47:51 <tristen> the rulebook says it should be encouraged
22:48:13 <tristen> it was my gut-feel originally
22:48:28 <tristen> when mellon kicked the bucket
22:49:57 <tristen> but if my character coughs up for the resurrect i'm ~1000gp away from where i want to be
22:50:06 <tristen> want/need
22:50:19 <Avatar> it's up to you guys what you want to do
22:51:27 <tristen> well it's up to all of us to agree upon circumstances for resurrection
22:52:45 <tristen> is a death is a team failure rather than an individual failure? or not necessarily so?
22:52:54 <mort-> team failure Id say
22:53:00 <mort-> but you get bad dice rolls too
22:53:03 <mort-> sometimes you cant help it
22:53:09 <tristen> yep - gogg didn't do anything wrong as such
22:53:13 <tristen> it just went to shit
22:54:10 <Avatar> well
22:54:21 <tristen> but nah - i still think my inclination is still "let the individual build up the PA"
22:54:22 <Avatar> the problem was you walked into a room with a dragon and Hitomi was kind of surprised by it
22:55:06 <tristen> close your eyes mort
22:55:20 <Avatar> oops
22:55:22 <Avatar> yeah close your eyes
22:55:33 <tristen> yes, and it could just have easily been hitomi dead
22:55:47 <Avatar> it could have easily been any or several of you
22:55:58 <Avatar> you got extremely extremely lucky that it did what it did
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22:56:06 <tristen> and i think it's cool though for a player to be mindful of exactly what PA is
22:56:27 <tristen> "you got the cred, you'll come back from the dead" :D
22:56:38 <Avatar> bit more than that
22:56:51 <Avatar> I can't find if Gogg is meant to get the gp or not
22:56:58 <Avatar> he gets the exp, so I guess he gets the gp as well?
22:57:36 <tristen> i would imagine his share goes to the pathfinders
22:58:05 <Avatar> I think you only each get it on a PFS technicality to ensure fairness
22:58:11 <tristen> ja
22:59:30 <tristen> i mean say hitomi got himself waxed by running down those stairs
22:59:49 <Mekkis> what's the weather like down in Melbourne?
22:59:55 <tristen> i would most certainly not feel inclined to cough up
23:00:12 <tristen> mekkis: you're up in brissie?
23:00:16 <Mekkis> yeah
23:00:21 <Mekkis> it's raining a lot now
23:00:23 <tristen> it's fine :)
23:00:36 <Mekkis> will it be hot, or really hot
23:00:48 <Mekkis> given that iirc, the venue is indoors and not airconditioned
23:01:03 <tristen> it's really hot then
23:01:08 <tristen> i'll take a look at bom hang on
23:01:16 <tristen> melb changes real quick
23:01:49 <tristen> http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
23:01:50 <tristen> as you can see
23:01:59 <tristen> fridat 16-29
23:02:02 <tristen> :D
23:02:05 <tristen> madness
23:02:29 <tristen> so bring shorts and t-shirts
23:02:33 <tristen> and also thermals
23:02:51 <Mekkis> I have one faction T-Shirt
23:03:01 <Mekkis> and one that says "Sword-Bomber"
23:03:18 <tristen> :) awesome
23:03:33 <Mekkis> I didn't get the colour matching right
23:03:45 <Mekkis> I'll need to try again, next time vistaprint has a special
23:03:45 <Avatar> yeah I don't have a faction reroll shirt
23:03:55 <Avatar> although maybe I need one to save some lives
23:03:56 <Mekkis> would it have saved Gogg?
23:04:02 <Avatar> no
23:04:10 <Avatar> he went from 10hp to -26
23:04:15 <Avatar> in one attack
23:04:20 <Avatar> from 5 hits
23:04:21 <Mekkis> who needs a faction reroll
23:04:29 <Mekkis> the dragon?
23:04:36 <Avatar> I dunno
23:04:45 <Avatar> they were numerous opportunities for death in that scenario
23:04:54 <Avatar> I lost count of the mistakes made at hello
23:04:55 <Mekkis> just use the diviner preroll, the gnomish reroll, and the Dream Journal of the Pallid Seer :)
23:05:01 <tristen> yes, you were very lenient on us (cheers)
23:05:24 <Mekkis> Avatar, what will you tell John
23:05:34 <Mekkis> ?
23:05:43 <Avatar> I don't know
23:05:51 <Mekkis> blame the shorties?
23:06:08 <Avatar> I didn't even think a scenario could be blown out of proportion the way this one was
23:06:18 <mort-> bad tactics
23:06:19 <mort-> ?
23:06:24 <Mekkis> *cough cough* Darkest Vengeance
23:06:27 <Avatar> murphy's law
23:06:57 <Avatar> darkest vengeance just has unfair tactics
23:07:02 <Mekkis> what?
23:07:03 <Mekkis> no
23:07:07 <Mekkis> it has unfair enemies
23:07:09 <Avatar> cmon, really
23:07:16 <Avatar> both I guess
23:07:34 <Mekkis> fyi, I skipped the optional encounter in Darkest Vengeance
23:07:45 <Mekkis> it would have probably killed you all too
23:07:50 <Avatar> ha
23:08:09 <Mekkis> you're halfway across the river
23:08:13 <Mekkis> hello, Bat Swarm!
23:08:22 <tristen> mekkis: speaking of being killed - it's a hot topic atm
23:08:32 <Mekkis> on the forums?
23:08:43 <tristen> here in this community
23:08:48 <Mekkis> it happens
23:08:56 <tristen> trying to set an ethic for resurrection
23:09:06 <Mekkis> Avatar, how many people died in LSK?
23:09:17 <Avatar> LSK is not a PFS scenario
23:09:26 <Avatar> v.different
23:09:37 <Mekkis> tristen, in my experience, if you die, and you don't have enough prestige to get raised, it's probably not worth it
23:09:37 <Avatar> I think Gogg gets 2 negative levels if you raise him
23:09:42 <tristen> the debate is: player responsible for own resurrection or is the team?
23:09:45 <tristen> right
23:10:04 <tristen> i was originally more in the team resurrects always camp
23:10:21 <tristen> but i no longer hold that view
23:11:12 <tristen> the costs outweigh the benefits for chars that don't have the prestige
23:11:31 <tristen> i think that's it
23:11:35 <tristen> but hey
23:11:52 <Mekkis> if you're paying to get raised, you'll be way behind in WBL
23:12:01 <Mekkis> I suppose I'd probably amend that though
23:12:05 <Avatar> what is WBL
23:12:12 <Mekkis> around 4th level, it might be worth it
23:12:15 <Mekkis> Wealth By Level
23:12:32 <Avatar> yeah but prestige sort of counts for that
23:12:44 <Mekkis> not really
23:12:54 <mort-> how much for raise dead?
23:12:59 <Avatar> 5450gp
23:13:02 <mort-> and how od you undo negative levels?
23:13:02 <Mekkis> 5000+ a bit
23:13:03 <mort-> k
23:13:08 <Mekkis> restoration
23:13:10 <tristen> the thing is if the team pays for resurrect in gold then all players are weakened
23:13:11 <Avatar> restoration, 4 prestige
23:13:14 <Mekkis> it has a 100gp material component
23:13:17 <Avatar> um, possibly 8
23:13:17 <Mekkis> tristen, exactly
23:13:36 <mort-> so basically going around like a packrat on mort, also weakens my character
23:13:44 <Avatar> yeah, two lots of 4 prestige to get back to normal
23:13:45 <mort-> since I could probably have bought a headband of intellect :P
23:14:03 <mort-> raise dead can be bought by preistige>
23:14:04 <mort-> ?
23:14:12 <tristen> yeah 16 big ones i think
23:14:14 <Mekkis> if you're worried about WBL, I suppose you could uptier more
23:14:31 <Mekkis> I'm willing to bring Grolschmir in to increase APL and survival chances
23:14:47 <Mekkis> (in a 1-7 context, run at 3-4)
23:14:52 <tristen> awesome name :D
23:14:56 <Avatar> uptiering is what almost got them all killed this time
23:15:08 <Avatar> they had an APL of 4
23:15:14 <tristen> no - dick-headed-ness almost got us all killed this time
23:15:28 <Avatar> that too :P
23:15:29 <Mekkis> tristen, Grolschmir?
23:15:32 <mort-> the last scneario we uptiered
23:15:34 <tristen> yeah
23:15:34 <mort-> was easy as pie..
23:15:36 <Avatar> hopefully you learned some tactics for it though
23:15:40 <mort-> we iddnt even get a scrathc on us though
23:15:40 <Mekkis> the dutch beer and the russian satellite?
23:15:42 <Avatar> mort-: yeah that's a risk you take
23:15:55 <mort-> again characters involved..except for me
23:15:57 <tristen> i didn't get the russian spacelab bit :D
23:15:58 <mort-> are acutally pretty powerful
23:16:04 <mort-> the time when they cmae for us
23:16:08 <tristen> isn't it "mirr"
23:16:13 <mort-> well we wiped teh floor off them
23:16:41 <mort-> what ahppens
23:16:44 <mort-> if you run during a scenario
23:16:46 <tristen> and isn't grolsch deutch?
23:16:47 <Avatar> tier 4-5's are more like this scenario
23:16:50 <mort-> say fight isnt going well
23:16:50 <mort-> and u go run?
23:16:52 <Avatar> not like last scenario
23:16:53 <mort-> :D
23:16:57 <Avatar> the last one is considered particularly easy
23:16:59 <mort-> like no ones business?
23:17:01 <mort-> yeah I noticed
23:17:03 <Avatar> this is pretty standard 4-5
23:17:06 <mort-> we really wiped the floor off their bums
23:17:13 <mort-> didnt even get much of a nick on us
23:17:15 <Mekkis> tristen, no
23:17:15 <mort-> well I got nicked
23:17:15 <Avatar> keep that in mind next time you say let's uptier
23:17:18 <mort-> but sometimes..
23:17:25 <Mekkis> it's brewed in Enschede, Netherlands
23:17:25 <mort-> okay what happens ifyou choose to run
23:17:26 <Avatar> high risk high reward
23:17:29 <mort-> from combat?
23:17:37 <Mekkis> about 8km from the German border
23:17:43 <tristen> there goes another misconception!
23:17:44 <Avatar> you lose prestige usually
23:17:49 <Mekkis> about 500m from University Twente :)
23:17:52 <Avatar> if you run from the whole mission and dont' go back
23:17:56 <tristen> :)
23:18:05 <Avatar> better to lose prestige than your life, though
23:18:18 <Avatar> you still get exp either way
23:18:27 <mort-> okay say u run
23:18:27 <Mekkis> you get less loot, don't you?
23:18:30 <mort-> your party wipes
23:18:37 <mort-> so you get away with your life?
23:18:44 <mort-> ifyou run, but your party completes the scenario?
23:18:50 <mort-> at level 1 I dont mind doing last stands
23:18:53 <mort-> since I just reroll lol
23:18:54 <mort-> :D
23:19:01 <Mekkis> hehe
23:19:06 <Mekkis> mort-, that's the spirit
23:19:12 <mort-> but at higher levels..discretion is the better part of valour..
23:19:12 <Mekkis> play level 1s and always uptier
23:19:16 * mort- zips off
23:19:20 <mort-> seriously
23:19:23 <mort-> I dont mind doing last stands..
23:19:25 <Mekkis> that reminds me of my first PFS game
23:19:26 <mort-> fk. nothing to lose :D
23:19:28 <mort-> just reroll
23:19:39 <Avatar> oh yeah
23:19:45 <Avatar> can level 1s play tier 4-5?
23:19:46 <mort-> thats why as poog
23:19:49 <mort-> I was really fking silly
23:19:50 <mort-> and tpw
23:19:50 <tristen> yeah mort i was seriously positioning myself to run away on our last encounter tonight
23:19:54 <mort-> its not my character..
23:19:58 <Avatar> I thought there was a rule that you can't
23:20:01 <Mekkis> I had managed to quickly roll up a first level half-elven wizard in about 15 minutes
23:20:02 <mort-> so I more or less did all the crappy things I'd never do on my own :D
23:20:09 <Avatar> Mekkis
23:20:13 <Mekkis> Avatar, this was GenCon 2009
23:20:18 <Avatar> righto
23:20:22 <Mekkis> first encounter...
23:20:23 <Avatar> you didn't specify that
23:20:30 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> that reminds me of my first PFS game
23:20:37 <mort-> i spanked the crap out of my goblin companions :D
23:20:47 <Mekkis> the DM goes over to Jason Buhlman, who happened to be nearby
23:21:06 <Mekkis> "What happens when a PC gets petrified by a cockatrice?"
23:21:51 <Mekkis> he was like "What?!"
23:22:07 <mort-> get petrified get petrifiedlol :P
23:22:08 <mort-> splat
23:22:11 <mort-> or get stone to flesh.
23:22:27 <mort-> thats why ballig is scawed.
23:22:30 <Mekkis> this was my first scenario
23:22:31 <mort-> about me zipping off :D
23:22:39 <Mekkis> and it was the fifth level cleric who was with us
23:22:53 <mort-> haha
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23:23:31 <Mekkis> luckily, a guy at my table pulled out his Core Rulebook and say "I Limited Wish him back to flesh"
23:24:57 <mort-> lol
23:25:00 <Mekkis> (Buhlman was giving out limited wishes at gencon)
23:25:09 <mort-> I wnat.. :D
23:25:11 <Mekkis> I still have mine: http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/corerulebook.png
23:25:15 <mort-> ohhhes
23:25:17 <mort-> hehee
23:25:18 <mort-> kidding
23:25:26 <mort-> but I Think we should all go and read
23:25:29 <mort-> sun tzu's art of war :P
23:25:30 <mort-> heheh
23:25:42 <mort-> I dont think of ohters atm when I fight I guess :(
23:25:49 <mort-> just enough to make sure I dont hit others wtih cones
23:25:57 <Mekkis> what level are you now, mort-?
23:26:01 <mort-> 2 :D
23:26:08 <Mekkis> how many XP?
23:26:08 * mort- is a young mouse lemur :D
23:26:13 <mort-> 5 :D
23:26:19 <Mekkis> level 3's close!
23:26:26 * mort- is a baby mouse lemur
23:26:30 * mort- wails abit :P
23:26:35 <mort-> fk. Im better then this
23:26:36 <Mekkis> mort-, are you making a character for CoED?
23:26:41 <mort-> in the other world, I am a battle tactician
23:26:41 <mort-> no
23:26:44 <mort-> because once I get a job
23:26:46 <mort-> I cannot play
23:26:50 <Mekkis> fair enough
23:26:50 <mort-> its literally during daytime
23:26:54 <mort-> and I dont know when itll be
23:26:59 <mort-> so I really dont want to..
23:27:05 <mort-> do something like that and let my team down
23:27:14 <mort-> becuase like someone says, can you start work now ? I say yes, and bb, permanently no mort
23:27:27 <mort-> its one thing on sat and sundays
23:28:40 <Avatar> how did you guys decide to pay for Gogg's raise
23:28:46 <Avatar> did jaggedsoul say anything about it
23:29:51 <Avatar> I guess as a rule of thumb everyone should set aside 1090gp for it
23:30:07 <Avatar> if you want to chip in differently, speak up
23:42:49 <tristen> wooah nellie!
23:43:08 <tristen> gogg's raise?
23:43:42 <Mekkis> I wish that Paizo would get their act together
23:43:47 <Avatar> yeah
23:43:57 <Avatar> they do have some serious shortcomings don't they
23:43:59 <Mekkis> there's so much misinformation on their site
23:44:46 <Mekkis> if Mike Brock, Pathfinder Society Campaign Coordinator, says something on a blog, it's not really *rules* per se
23:44:59 <Mekkis> it's just something he's said on a blog
23:45:19 <Mekkis> I feel that you can't get an answer
23:45:40 <Mekkis> because people aren't referring to rules, they're referring to blog posts and forum posts
23:46:03 <Mekkis> in addition, any changes to the /Guide/ or FAQs or other /official/ documents aren't indicated
23:46:20 <Mekkis> (for instance, the season 3 guide didn't have negative levels from raise dead)
23:46:28 <Mekkis> it specifically said that
23:48:01 <Avatar> yeah but like
23:48:05 <Avatar> nobody is going to say
23:48:20 <Avatar> "I have a question, what happens if blah de blah blah blah?"
23:48:27 <Avatar> and they say "well it's this this and that"
23:49:50 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 11am (new game) | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
23:49:50 Topic for #d&d set by ChanOP at Tue Jan 24 22:53:41 2012
23:50:08 <Mekkis> they do in Magic rulings
23:50:14 <mort-> writing up a magus
23:52:41 <Mekkis> eg.
23:53:10 <Mekkis> The IPG states that, even if it is too late to rewind, the following applies:
23:53:10 <Mekkis> "If a player made an illegal choice or failed to make a required choice for a permanent on the battlefield, that player does so." [IPG 3.6]
23:53:10 <Mekkis> Actually it's great that this scenario has been brought up, because I already once stumbled over that wording. In the Phyrexian Revoker case, the first condition applies, as an illegal choice has been made (and Phyrexian Revoker is a permanent on the battlefield). However, reading that sentence with the first condition in mind makes little sense to me:
23:53:10 <Mekkis> "If a player made an illegal choice [...], that player does so."
23:53:10 <Mekkis> From the context, I would interpret that to mean that Adam has to make a new, legal choice, even if we're well past the point of backing up the game state. (It would be nice to clear this sentence up grammatically, though.)
23:53:36 <Mekkis> (referencing rules, and making interpretations based on it)
23:56:35 <Avatar> is it just me or does that sentence make no sense
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23:57:31 <Avatar> that scenario was my 1st star
23:57:48 <tlotig> good evening all
23:57:53 <Avatar> yo
23:58:02 <Avatar> played before?
23:58:09 <tlotig> yup
23:58:15 <Avatar> what system
23:58:19 <tlotig> PFS
23:58:33 <Avatar> in here ?
23:58:37 <Mekkis> Avatar, you might want to revise the topic
23:58:49 <tlotig> nope, played LG on open RPG a few times
23:58:49 <Avatar> ug
23:58:50 Tashes ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
23:58:57 <Avatar> is ballig running a game
23:59:08 <Tashes> you again!
23:59:12 <Avatar> it's me!
23:59:19 * Tashes gives Avatar an unlimited supply of question marks
23:59:23 <Avatar> tlotig: what level character ?
23:59:33 * Avatar gives Tashes an unlimited supply of exclamation mark
23:59:33 <Avatar> s
23:59:38 <Tashes> !
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