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32:31 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 11am (Avatar, new game) / Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
32:31 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jan 16 11:50:18 2012
33:51 <Ballig> zzz
35:55 <Avatar> zzz
36:57 <Ballig> I sounded like a wookiee waking up this morning
38:00 <Avatar> sounds like you
40:01 <Hydrazine> hey you guys, what level am I making anyway? Even the pregens have a vew varieties. And I might end up taking a look at one and doing something else anyway.
40:08 <Ballig> one
40:44 <Hydrazine> Ah. Simple then. What sort of rules for rolling stats, or assigned?
43:00 <Avatar> are you having a go at creating a character from scratch instead of a pregen?
43:11 <Ballig> did you read the guide to organised play
43:38 <Avatar> there are a couple of pages in that guide that give you the steps you need
43:46 <Avatar> chapter 2, character creation
44:31 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4
44:34 <Ballig> that's the guide, if you don't have it
46:08 <Hydrazine> Getting there. I just probably shouldn't try to do it all at once.
47:14 <Ballig> what are you trying to do all at once
47:59 <Avatar> have you had a look at the classes
48:20 <Ballig> it's enough like 3.5 that you don't have to freak out about the rules
48:49 <Avatar> if you've played 3.5 it's pretty super easy with the steps in the PFS guide
48:58 <Ballig> yeah
49:52 <Hydrazine> Right now I'm getting the Society book down. Got the CA and charsheet already.
50:06 <Hydrazine> And the core rulebook last night. So taking a look at those.
50:32 <Hydrazine> Considering rolling my own after all, especially if its level ones. Don't really have to try hard for that.
50:41 <Ballig> yeah
50:47 <Ballig> what race/class are you looking at
52:06 <Hydrazine> not sure what race yet. I hadn't gotten to the specifics of the classes to see whats really different. Instincts say lean towards monk.
56:37 <Avatar> pick something good !!
12:31 <Avatar> I should get into the habit of just applying for 10 jobs on my first day of the fortnight and then just add on any other jobs I apply for as 'bonus' jobs
42:42 <Avatar> we should probably hold more impromptu games if we have too many players at scheduled times
42:54 <Ballig> we don't
42:59 <Avatar> don't we
43:07 <Ballig> we haven't had a single scheduled game where too many people were there
43:16 <Avatar> thursday was looking like that
43:23 <Ballig> it hasn't happened yet
43:29 <Avatar> ah but it will
44:00 <Ballig> talk to me on Friday :p
50:52 <Avatar> maybe we should place bets
50:59 <Avatar> to make it interesting
51:04 <Ballig> okay
51:06 <Ballig> $1,000
51:07 <Ballig> up front
51:15 <Avatar> that is a little bit expensive for me
51:19 <Avatar> I am funemployed
52:41 <Avatar> gg with scrabble
53:57 <Ballig> that was a pretty crazy final word
54:04 <Ballig> I had QLAUULD
54:07 <Ballig> and you had FRIDGES
54:30 <Avatar> haha
06:26 <Avatar> have any of you looked at this new rpg josh frost is doing
06:38 <Brunius> Echoes of the Overwatched looks like a fun scenario
06:40 <Brunius> Nope
07:01 <Avatar> he's only released some concept stuff, but I can't get my head around it
07:11 <Brunius> link?
07:24 <Avatar> https://www.facebook.com/authorjoshuafrost
18:15 <mort-> Aw
18:23 <mort-> Cell mode
18:54 <Ballig> activated!
20:08 <mort-> I can't have ca on cell
20:12 <mort-> It sun
20:17 <mort-> Sux
20:27 <Ballig> don't give Avatar ideas
21:00 <Avatar> I was the first to have the idea
21:05 <Avatar> you should be asking me not to give mort ideas
21:09 <Avatar> which, by the way, I didn't
21:20 <Ballig> no she's going to give you the idea that your idea was a good idea
21:26 <Avatar> there is clear demand going on here
21:56 <mort-> What? :p
22:19 <mort-> I suggest you start waking people up :p
27:00 <Hydrazine> Are you guys always like this?
27:10 <Ballig> yes
28:20 <Hydrazine> Rock on.
28:41 <Avatar> yes we are amazing
29:01 <Avatar> all the time
29:12 <Ballig> all. the. time
29:21 <Avatar> sing it to me
29:32 <Hydrazine> I'm looking through feats, comparing between PFS and the 3.5 I'm used to.
30:02 <Hydrazine> Seems like they added a few shield feats, which is nice I guess. There really wasn't much for shield use that I remember.
30:11 <Ballig> keep in mind that you can play a pregen character for your first game, and then switch out to a character you created
30:57 <mort-> Aw
30:58 <Hydrazine> At what sort of penalties?
31:06 <Ballig> none, but you can only do it for your first game
31:25 <Hydrazine> Hm. Thanks.
31:36 <Avatar> you're better off creating a character if you can figure out how
31:40 <Ballig> yeah
31:49 <Ballig> but just don't freak out if your character isn't ready by the time a game is about to run
32:00 <Ballig> you can still get full credit
32:41 <Hydrazine> I think I can manage to make a level 1.
32:57 <Hydrazine> If the limitations were like, level 10+ caster, I'd have trouble.
33:34 <Hydrazine> I have this thing about playing wizards. The spells I memorize for a day are never the spells that would actually be useful.
33:37 <Avatar> if you're familiar with 3.5 you will have next to no trouble
34:02 <Avatar> the biggest difference is with skills
34:12 <Hydrazine> Even that didn't seem too bad.
34:17 <Avatar> which isn't that much to get your head around
34:31 <Ballig> Hydrazine: sounds like you need scrolls
34:34 <Hydrazine> We used to play with perception instead of the spot/listen/search anyway.
34:41 <Avatar> yeah
34:53 <Ballig> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=281
34:54 <Avatar> it's actually easier to relearn from scratch than to try and carry over what you know from 3.5 I think
34:56 <Hydrazine> Out of pity for the poor bastard fighters who had like 3 skills total.
34:57 <Avatar> with skills
35:25 <Ballig> look at all those sexy, sexy scrolls
35:38 <Ballig> frees me up to prepare hideous laughter and scorching ray
39:44 <mort-> Nah
40:04 <mort-> Just play your cards properly
40:23 <mort-> You don't have many but they can be nasty
41:12 <mort-> Twice I've saved my party a lot of trouble my sprouting fireworks at the right time
41:37 <mort-> I wonder if there will be a time
41:42 <Hydrazine> Why does a club have a 10ft range?
41:46 <mort-> That i deem it necessary to do friendly fire
42:01 <mort-> You throw it at someone?
42:09 <Avatar> I've never noticed that before
42:12 <Avatar> you can throw clubs?
42:16 <mort-> But if you want ranged get a bow? :p
42:17 <Hydrazine> Depends on how close Spaceshot is, mort?
42:18 <mort-> Why on
42:20 <mort-> Not
42:25 <Avatar> because it's a club
42:30 <mort-> You can throw anything? :p
42:38 <Ballig> you can throw anything at -4
42:41 <Ballig> unless you have the Throw Anything feat
42:45 <Ballig> (see what they did there?)
42:50 <mort-> Just don't grab me by the tail an throw me
43:02 <mort-> Though some rude people do it
43:08 <Hydrazine> I got thrown offensively in a game once.
43:18 <Ballig> mort-: elves don't have tails
43:31 <mort-> Mouse lemur form :p
43:34 <Hydrazine> Flying enemy. We had a h-orc barbarian and an elf monk. So he threw me at it.
43:37 <mort-> When I'm not in my elf
43:39 <Hydrazine> Didn't work, but it was fun.
43:40 <mort-> Lol
44:07 <mort-> When that happens you should get bow
44:26 <Hydrazine> Well, that was plan B.
44:54 <mort-> Plan a is to throw you?
45:20 <Hydrazine> Well. Yes.
45:43 <Ballig> I GMed a game where my players were hilariously not prepared for a flying opponent
45:45 <Avatar> yeah you can throw clubs with dex
45:48 <mort-> Did that half orc have too much rum?
45:52 <Avatar> at 10ft without penalty !
45:58 <Ballig> Avatar: the penalty is -4, isn't it
46:02 <Ballig> or is club specifically a thrown weapon
46:06 <Avatar> no it's actually a thrown weapon
46:12 <Avatar> like daggers
46:15 <mort-> Ah
46:35 <Avatar> and they're free !!!!
46:42 <Hydrazine> rofl
46:47 <Ballig> oh, it does have a range too
46:56 <Hydrazine> brb rolling my club throwing ranger
46:59 <Avatar> hahahha
47:00 <mort-> But why wouldn't casters
47:03 <Ballig> screw javelins
47:06 <Avatar> weight I guess
47:08 <Ballig> just get 50 clubs
47:10 <mort-> Have a bow in that
47:13 <Avatar> you'd be better off having a club throwing cleric
47:15 <mort-> Scenario
47:26 <Avatar> put 4 points into str, dex, con and wis
47:31 <Avatar> v.solid build
47:44 <Ballig> v.solid
47:51 <mort-> I thought all casters sleep beside their box?
47:54 <mort-> Bow
47:55 <mort-> Actually
48:09 <mort-> That would work for monk as well
48:19 <mort-> That 4 str dex and con
48:29 <Ballig> of course, a light crossbow does more damage, has the same requirement for proficiency, and can be fired 8 times as far without penalty
48:36 <mort-> Though maybe i might drop cons
48:39 <Avatar> putting 4 points into 4 skills is a great way to do a point buy if you don't really know what you want to do
48:44 <Avatar> er, 4 stats
48:45 <mort-> For more wis
48:53 <Hydrazine> how often though, Ballig?
49:06 <mort-> If i were to roll a monk
49:11 <Ballig> once a round?
49:13 <Ballig> as long as you don't move
49:46 <mort-> Don't ever go adventuring without range weapons
49:49 <mort-> Period.
50:09 <mort-> Again I'm wizzie so i don't want to get close anyway
51:39 <Avatar> period.
51:54 <mort-> Yep
52:01 <Hydrazine> Sais are still funny to me. Its shaped for stabbing, but you whack people with it.
52:14 * mort- is scawed of big bad orcs
52:15 <Ballig> period.
52:24 <mort-> Its electra
52:35 <mort-> From daredevil
52:56 <Avatar> will it be a problem to make the tomorrow game an hour earlier
53:09 <mort-> What time it be then
53:12 <Avatar> probably better for you Hydrazine
53:14 <mort-> If its already
53:16 <Avatar> 10am
53:21 <mort-> !topic
53:24 <Hydrazine> 10 am for me?
53:27 <Ballig> 10am for us
53:28 <Avatar> 10am for us
53:31 <Ballig> in 23 hour sfor you
53:36 <mort-> Can
53:40 <Avatar> yeah 23 hours from now
53:42 <Ballig> well, in 23 hours for us too
53:43 <Hydrazine> Eh. I'm fine either way.
53:45 <mort-> Get up early with alarm
54:01 <mort-> Get playing at 7 am
54:02 <Avatar> `op
54:04 <Hydrazine> would have to wake up Tashes though.
54:25 <Avatar> my understanding is that tashes needs to be woken up at any time of the day
54:57 <mort-> Ok so. Yes the sais
54:59 <Hydrazine> Rofl.
55:06 <mort-> Lol
55:31 <mort-> My wave discipline is not too good atm
55:39 <mort-> Had to be woken up for wave
56:02 <mort-> Again that was stupid trying to catch a 1h catnap before wave
56:06 <mort-> I better get more sleep tonight
56:16 <Ballig> wave?
56:20 <mort-> Utopia
56:33 <mort-> Kd was waving at my 2 am last night
56:52 <mort-> They had to wake me up at 2.19 am
56:54 <mort-> Gah
57:11 <mort-> I went to sleep at 12 am because i stayed up too late to talk shop
57:21 <mort-> I should have gone to sleep at 10 pm
57:38 <mort-> Set alarm for 1.45 am
57:52 <mort-> Then get swishy tailed at 2 am
58:01 <mort-> Then hit and go back to bed
58:14 <mort-> Life isn't perfect though
58:25 <mort-> I'm going shopping later
58:29 <Ballig> what's waving
58:34 <Ballig> is that like raiding in an MMO
58:36 <mort-> But that's like 5 h from now
58:40 <mort-> Sort off
58:49 <mort-> Except you just hit
58:52 <mort-> And log off
59:05 <mort-> Each of you control one province
59:16 <mort-> So waving means you all get on and one time
59:33 <mort-> And hit another province or more then one
59:41 <mort-> In the other kingdom
59:52 <Hydrazine> Why doesn't the rulebook just describe caltrops in relation to d4s?
59:58 <mort-> The size of your provinces when you hit need ideally
00:10 <mort-> Should be from biggest to smallest
00:19 <mort-> So timing is fair important
00:21 <Ballig> because d4s tend not to be metal or sharp
00:22 <Ballig> :p
00:38 <Hydrazine> you scatter some d4a across your kitchen at night.
00:45 <mort-> But again I've been at war for part 2 days so I'm slightly fatigued
00:52 <Ballig> I don't walk into my kitchen at night
00:54 <Ballig> bathroom, maybe
00:57 <mort-> Its affecting my wave discipline
01:08 <mort-> Ill pour marbles
01:14 <mort-> On your kitchen
02:47 <AndChat|> Dced
03:03 <Brunius> Mort, y u dc?
03:14 <AndChat|> I'm on train
03:28 <AndChat|> Connection fked up
08:10 <Mort-> Back
11:32 <Avatar> trust mort
12:02 <Avatar> I thought caltrops are more like sea urchins
12:24 <Hydrazine> Think really pointy d4s.
12:27 <Hydrazine> Attack d4s.
12:40 <Avatar> they are probably more like sea urchins
12:44 <Avatar> with the spines and things
14:15 <Mort-> Throwing them on the ground? :d
14:15 <Mort-> Ah i don't
14:24 <Mort-> Only good vs living foes i think
14:40 <Mort-> Can't imagine any undead would care
14:52 <Mort-> Besides throwing things on the ground
14:58 <Mort-> No idea who else would
15:13 <Mort-> Use the square next
25:57 <Mort-> covered by caltrops (or spends a round fighting while standing in such an area), it runs the risk of stepping on one. Make an attack roll for the caltrops (base attack bonus +0) against the creature. For this attack, the creature's shield, armor, and deflection bonuses do not count. If the creature is wearing shoes or other footwear, it gets a +2 armor bonus to AC. If the attack succeeds, the creature has stepped on a caltrop. The caltrop deals 1 point of d
46:52 <Brunius> Avatar, at arcanacon last year, one of the guys said they had made a platinum D4, then realised it was just a caltrop
47:08 <Brunius> Every time they rolled the d4, they ended up with cuts all over their hands
47:28 <Ballig> sounds like he's not good at rounding edges
48:04 <Brunius> Who needs to round edges
49:19 <Ballig> people who don't want to wear gloves while playing D&D
52:48 <Mort-> Lol
57:12 <Brunius> Just don't make a platinum d4
57:29 <Ballig> a platinum d20 would be pretty awesome
57:33 <Mort-> Ah almost time to go
57:44 <Mort-> I think if my dad made it
57:45 <Brunius> So now JB tells me that Frankston (Why Frankston?) has received my order because the postman couldn't be bothered delivering it
57:54 <Mort-> He would do it properly
58:07 <Mort-> He's good at making stuff
58:15 <Mort-> I only can make muffins :(
58:32 <Brunius> Make brownies.
58:35 <Brunius> They are better
58:40 <Mort-> Can't :(
58:41 <Brunius> And apparently I am awesome at making them
58:56 <Mort-> And cook spaghetti
59:31 <Mort-> Ok time to log off
59:40 <Mort-> See you all after the interview
59:45 <Brunius> gl
59:49 <Mort-> Till i go shopping
59:57 <Mort-> Its with job agency atm
00:05 <Mort-> Don't think it will be too long
11:30 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 10am (Avatar, new game) / Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
11:30 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Jan 18 09:54:09 2012
11:30 <***> Buffer Playback...
11:30 <***> Playback Complete.
11:30 <Ballig> dunno we might be doing a first steps today
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12:07 <Mort-> Ah
12:20 <Mort-> I'm going out in
12:27 <Ballig> I thought you were already out
12:28 <Mort-> 3h
12:33 <Mort-> I am on cell
12:34 <Mort-> Lol
12:39 <tristen> aloha my pretties
12:45 <Mort-> But when I'm out in 3 h
12:54 <Mort-> I can't have cell irc
12:56 <tristen> big game tomorrow?
13:03 <Mort-> I'm not alone so i won't irc
13:12 * Mort- squeals
13:16 <Mort-> Lol
13:22 <tristen> heheh
13:27 <Mort-> Today is do job homework
13:28 <Jaggedsoul> cute
13:38 <Mort-> What class and level tristen?
13:39 <Jaggedsoul> no
13:46 <Jaggedsoul> play play play
13:59 <Mort-> I have to run midgame if it lasts more then 5 h
14:04 <Mort-> Lunch and all
14:08 <tristen> i'll play tasiv: and i need one more scenario to go lvl 4
14:12 <Mort-> Will wake up at 6 am
14:24 <Mort-> To have breakfast first
14:27 <Mort-> Ah
14:31 <Mort-> Your level 3
14:33 <Mort-> ?
14:35 <tristen> aye
14:40 <Mort-> I just made level 2
14:49 <tristen> with teh wiz?
14:52 <Mort-> I have my fancy new cords
14:53 <Mort-> Yeah
14:56 <tristen> awesome
15:00 <Mort-> Spell line up
15:06 <Mort-> Mage armor
15:10 <tristen> check
15:13 <Mort-> Colourspray
15:15 <tristen> check
15:17 <Mort-> Magic missile
15:19 <tristen> check!
15:28 <Mort-> You want me swop for burning hands?
15:35 <tristen> hmmm
15:38 <Mort-> I don't like cone stuff really
15:44 <Mort-> Hard to control.
15:53 <tristen> yeah balance it
15:58 <tristen> you got the cones and the missiles
16:00 <tristen> all good
16:00 <Mekkis> it's not hard to control
16:03 <Mort-> But magic missile is fixed dmg no save
16:13 <tristen> yes ma'am
22:16 <Brunius> http://games.on.net/article/14686/Snipers_Deemed_So_Annoying_They_Get_Their_Own_Game
31:55 <Ballig> sup Alex
46:05 <Mort-> It
46:19 <Mort-> Is go do your homework time
51:39 <Spaceshot> Brunius: chaos legions and tau are rumored to be getting harlequin troupe? wtf
53:13 <Brunius> That's nice.
54:25 <Spaceshot> I'm confused about who the harlequins really are
54:31 <Spaceshot> and what they're goal is
03:35 <Brunius> Have any of you guys been calling me?
09:05 <Mort-> Nothing up today right
09:21 <Jaggedsoul> tomorrow's d big day
10:56 <Ballig> !throw 1d20+2 bite; 2#1d20+0 bites; 1d20+0 tail slap
10:56 <diebot> Ballig, bite: [1d20=3] 5; bites: [1d20=4] 4, [1d20=19] 19; tail slap: [1d20=4] 4
11:22 <Ballig> whoops meant to have that "bites" be "claws", would have made more sense
23:52 <Jaggedsoul> ?
23:55 <Ballig> ??
23:58 <Spaceshot> ???
24:10 <Ballig> who wants to play First Steps 1
24:21 <Jaggedsoul> me!!!!!!!
24:30 <Spaceshot> now?
24:44 <Ballig> sure
25:07 <Spaceshot> I should make my alchemist first
25:14 <Jaggedsoul> can I use Gogg who is level 2? e hasn't done first steps 1
25:22 <Ballig> you can play a pregen and then apply the credit to a character after
25:29 <Ballig> (as long as it's not a character that has played in any games yet)
25:35 <Ballig> Jaggedsoul: no
25:40 <Ballig> first steps is level 1 only
25:54 <Jaggedsoul> ok
26:25 <Jaggedsoul> Lemme introduce Zirul!
26:47 <Ballig> let me know if 3 or more people want to play
27:24 <Spaceshot> I'm doubtful
27:29 <Spaceshot> of me wanting to play
27:34 <Ballig> okay
27:38 <Jaggedsoul> Hydrazine? Brunius? Thelen, tristen...
27:56 <Jaggedsoul> why Spaceshot?
27:57 <Hydrazine> Hm?
28:11 <Ballig> he doesn't like playing, he just likes theorising
28:21 <Spaceshot> Ballig has it on the head
28:24 <Jaggedsoul> Hydrazine, you wana play first steps?
28:36 <Spaceshot> but seriously, I've got to much on my mind to be able to stay focused enough to want to play
28:39 <Hydrazine> Um. What is it?
29:03 <Ballig> first steps is a beginner scenario
29:19 <Jaggedsoul> introductory scenario for 1st level characters in PFS
29:33 <Hydrazine> I think I'm more or less engaged for some sort of game with Ballig. Will this interfere?
29:47 <Hydrazine> Or are you talking of the right now timeframe?
29:55 <Ballig> talking of right now
30:01 <Jaggedsoul> right now
30:03 <Hydrazine> Fuck it. I'll give it a swing.
30:11 <Ballig> is tashes asleep
30:17 <Hydrazine> Shes away.
30:33 <Hydrazine> Believe it or not, shes actually awake. Just not home.
31:12 <Spaceshot> lies
31:20 <Spaceshot> otherwise I'd be seeing raining cats and dogs
31:50 <Hydrazine> Not sure when shes coming back. Shouldn't be too long. How long would this take?
31:59 <Jaggedsoul> one more player...
32:20 <Ballig> it could take 4ish hours
33:17 <Hydrazine> hmm. Don't think I want to engage in something that long at this hour.
33:54 <Spaceshot> it's only 5
33:57 <Ballig> fair enough
33:59 <Ballig> Spaceshot: he's in florida
34:08 <Spaceshot> ahh
34:09 <Ballig> where it's 1.30am
34:14 <Spaceshot> that makes more sense
34:18 <Hydrazine> Yeah.
34:43 <Hydrazine> Lemme see if I can get a better idea of when the woman's coming back.
35:54 <Ballig> why isnt' she in the kitchen
36:02 <Hydrazine> Because I already ate.
36:06 <Spaceshot> maybe she went to get food to cook
36:18 <Hydrazine> She was talking about a pie earlier..
37:28 <Hydrazine> Shes so girly she bakes things on her own.
37:49 <Ballig> ha
40:32 <Hydrazine> Hm. Gonna pass, man. Game day's tomorrow for me anyway.
40:43 <Ballig> no prob
41:55 <tristen> hey i could go a game if it kicks off
44:32 <tristen> hey ballig i did you hear from thawne?
44:40 <Ballig> about what
44:41 <tristen> he can only do an hour or two on sunday
44:53 <Ballig> no I didn't hear anything about that
45:07 <tristen> i dunno if he has your email or not...
45:16 <tristen> i emailed him earlier about it
46:11 <tristen> we've still got a way to go on that scenario correct?
46:45 <Ballig> it's a module, modules are like three or four scenarios put together (if not longer)
47:01 <tristen> ok
47:33 <tristen> if a player can't commit to a full session what do you normally do?
47:44 <Ballig> kill them
47:50 <Ballig> in the most horrific way imaginable
48:05 <tristen> aye, but after we've killed them in the most horrific way imaginable?
48:14 <tristen> hold the game
48:19 <tristen> or continue without them?
49:04 <Ballig> depends on the situation
49:07 <Ballig> they might be NPCed
49:27 <Ballig> technically you're meant to get less XP for every session you can't attend in a sanctioned module
50:38 <tristen> yep
50:48 <tristen> ok so i don't know if i should ask:
51:02 <tristen> but approx. how much gaming remains in the current scenario?
51:38 <Ballig> no idea
52:00 <Ballig> we did say that you and Thawne have to be able to commit to playing every Sunday morning if you want to play in this particular module
52:01 <Ballig> and you both agreed
52:11 <Ballig> I'm not going to have much sympathy if you guys lose XP for not attending a session
53:02 <tristen> guys? no i can make it - thawne's only got an hour or two
53:11 <tristen> i'm good to go, as ever
53:15 <Ballig> :p
53:32 <tristen> just trying to make it painless
55:02 <Brunius> What did someone say about me
55:12 <Ballig> we said that you were a terrible person
55:22 <Ballig> Spaceshot actually said it, I just agreed
55:28 <tristen> ballig if it's an all-the-session-or-none-of-the-session lemme know and i'll relay it
55:50 <Ballig> it's not all or none, he just needs to realise that if he misses some he won't get as much of a reward
56:08 <tristen> okee
56:41 <tristen> brunius: i thought someone said you were a bit smelly
56:53 <tristen> but i could be wrong...
57:37 <tristen> "of questionable personal hygiene" i think the words were
58:19 <Ballig> sounds like something Avatar would say
58:35 <Brunius> Psh
58:39 <Brunius> Who needs showers
58:58 <tristen> when you've got dungeons?
59:08 <tristen> and swamps
00:26 <tristen> brunius there was minor talk of a game...
00:42 <Spaceshot> twas
04:16 <Jaggedsoul> yeah
05:49 <Ballig> twere?
08:52 <tristen> perchance
08:59 <Brunius> If Spaceshot is insulting me maybe I won't pay him
09:08 <Ballig> ha ha! hit him where it hurts
09:29 <tristen> spaceshot - i don't think i've played pfs with you yet?
09:45 <Hydrazine> Spaceshot plays?
09:59 <Ballig> he played once
10:35 <tristen> once? but pfs is crack-like
10:50 <tristen> how did he resist further gaming?
10:55 <Brunius> He thinks it's too similar to 3.5 or something
11:04 <Ballig> he's a gaming hipster
11:21 <tristen> pffft it's the roleplaying that makes any system awesome
11:30 <tristen> if that makes sense...
11:44 <Spaceshot> wha?
11:53 <tristen> the rules are besides the point
11:57 <tristen> for me anyway
12:01 <Spaceshot> I'm confused about what is being said about me
12:35 <Brunius> Why don't you like pfs?
12:48 <Spaceshot> I never recently said I don't like PFS
13:19 <Hydrazine> never recently.
13:38 <Brunius> April this year he said he thought PFS was stupid
13:42 <Spaceshot> yea, if I didn't put in the word recently they would quote me on what I said more than a year ago
13:43 <Hydrazine> I never recently did Spaceshot's mom. Just last night. And the night before..
13:44 <Brunius> And was nevar gonna play
13:51 <Brunius> It wasn't more than a year ago
14:01 <Brunius> It was april.
14:10 <Spaceshot> close enough
14:20 <Hydrazine> the 23rd. At 3:15 and 29 seconds.
14:29 <Hydrazine> God Space, how could you forget?
14:30 <Brunius> Almost exactly 9 months ago
14:42 <Ballig> we only started playing it a year ago ourselves
14:49 <Hydrazine> Bet you don't even remember our anniversary.
14:52 <Brunius> More than a year ago Ballig!
14:57 <Ballig> well,a year and a month
15:05 <Brunius> A year and 18 days
15:09 <Spaceshot> I remember being badgered about it a year ago
15:10 <Ballig> any time I hear "almost exactly" I remember a co-worker from a few years ago
15:12 <Ballig> who would get upset at that phrase
15:18 <Ballig> "you can't be almost exactly! you're either almost or exactly!"
15:25 <Brunius> Ha
15:55 <Brunius> There's no light, there's no sound, hard to breathe when you're underground
16:19 <Ballig> unless you're in a well-ventilated underground chamber
17:32 <tristen> 11:59am is almost exactly 12.00pm
17:41 <tristen> nothing wrong with that
17:47 <Spaceshot> I like to use practically instead of almost exactly
18:11 <Ballig> I think it's a legitimate phrase to use when you're trying to convey just how close something got to being precise
18:25 <tristen> hey i'm bailing for tea
18:33 <tristen> if you do kick off a game
18:35 <Ballig> you tea eater (or drinker)
18:45 <tristen> get my attention in skype?
18:55 <tristen> "crunchy"
18:57 <Ballig> sure
20:04 <Spaceshot> damn king's bounty armoured princess is addictive
20:16 <Ballig> I played it for a while
20:19 <Ballig> then it got repetitive
21:05 <Brunius> Just found this: http://i.imgur.com/9vSkL.png
21:09 <Brunius> Thought it was funny
21:09 <Spaceshot> it is a bit repetitive, but you improve, or get new guys, or be able to reach new places each fight
58:13 <Ballig> huh, wonder what's up with that
59:41 <Brunius> Have you tried turning it off and then on again?
59:50 <Ballig> turning what on and off again
00:19 <Brunius> Anything
00:21 <Brunius> The router?
00:38 <Ballig> ha
00:50 <Ballig> it's only happened twice, the only interesting thing is that it was in the space of 5 minutes
01:03 <Ballig> is wikipedia trying to blackout for sopa
01:39 <Brunius> Yes
01:56 <Spaceshot> yup
02:01 <Spaceshot> a few other sites have too
02:04 <Ballig> yeah
02:06 <Ballig> I think reddit was going to
02:11 <Brunius> Ha, my browser is opening cached versions then quickly switching to the blackout version
02:14 <Brunius> minecraft.net is
02:20 <Ballig> it's not cached
02:22 <Spaceshot> though supposedly google, youtube and facebook were meant to
02:28 <Ballig> it's actually loading the article, and then redirecting
02:29 <Spaceshot> ment*
02:38 <Ballig> but if you hit stop (or escape) before it redirects you're all good
02:44 <Ballig> meant
02:51 <Brunius> Ha
03:21 <Spaceshot> Ballig: thought it was meant, no idea why I fixed that XD
03:36 <Ballig> http://i.imgur.com/IAQGk.jpg
04:16 <Spaceshot> reminds me of the myrodin(spelling) block manticore
05:01 <Brunius> mirrodin
05:27 <Spaceshot> I dunno, it was MyrRodin :P
05:44 <Spaceshot> sooooo many Myrs
05:46 <Brunius> What are you talking about?
05:51 <Brunius> MTG rite
05:59 <Brunius> If it's MTG it's Mirrodin
06:05 <Spaceshot> ...
06:07 <Spaceshot> you don't get it
06:08 <Brunius> As in Mirrodin Besieged
06:12 <Brunius> I know what you mean
06:12 <Spaceshot> you weren't around for mirrodin
06:30 <Brunius> I have been obsessively reading up though
07:05 <Spaceshot> in limited back in the day there were way too many myrs
07:33 <Ballig> you know what I was around for? penises
07:39 <Spaceshot> also in the pre-release my deck was so shit
08:36 <Brunius> Ballig, you play pathfinder on this internet. At least MTG involves going outside one's house
08:52 <Ballig> there are online MTG games, actually
08:52 <Spaceshot> haha
09:01 <Ballig> also, I played MTG in high school
09:02 <Spaceshot> he'll bring up MTG:O
12:17 <Ballig> and why did this suddenly become a "X hobby is better than Y hobby for <arbitrary reason>"?
13:11 <Spaceshot> never was to my knowledge
13:32 <Brunius> I perceived (perhaps wrongly) that you were insulting a hobby I enjoy
13:39 <Ballig> nope, I was just saying penises
13:45 <Ballig> I've enjoyed MTG (both in person an online) before
14:00 <Brunius> "Let's keep them busy with some dummy units!"
14:10 <Ballig> I /think/ I still own a tupperware container of old MTG cards from 11-12 years ago
14:14 <Ballig> but I might have just ditched them
14:41 <Brunius> You could probably get quite some cash for MTG cards from that long ago
15:09 <Spaceshot> could
18:11 <Jaggedsoul> I play Magic
18:19 <Spaceshot> I use to
18:24 <Jaggedsoul> since '93
18:31 <Spaceshot> nice
18:36 <Spaceshot> I started in 2000
18:39 <Brunius> Since '11
18:40 <Brunius> :D
18:58 <Ballig> well you were only born in 1999, so that's not surprising Brunius
19:04 <Spaceshot> well, a week before planeshift pre-release
19:06 <Brunius> 1996
19:16 <Brunius> My brother was born in '99
23:57 <Ballig> I love the way Community does the paintball episodes
28:06 <Ballig> blord
28:22 <Lord> blord?
28:40 <Ballig> yeah
28:43 <Ballig> it's you!
28:54 <Lord> i...am blord?
29:20 <Ballig> yes
29:22 <Lord> why?
29:23 <Lord> how?
29:31 <Ballig> it's like lord, but with a b
29:43 <Lord> i get that. but why?
30:36 <Ballig> I think it's better
30:50 <Lord> sure, why not
30:58 <Lord> can i change my name?
31:03 <Ballig> no!
31:05 <Ballig> it is forever Blord
31:06 <Ballig> :p
31:14 <Lord> .....shit
31:28 <Ballig> I've never understood why your IRC info says Sasha
31:39 <Lord> its my name
31:59 <Ballig> really
32:02 <Lord> yeah
32:04 <Ballig> is that like the song about a guy named Sue
32:20 <Lord> no
32:34 <Lord> thats a shit song
32:38 <Ballig> haha
32:44 <Lord> mine would be by mettalica
33:12 <Brunius> Breaking Benjamin
33:16 <Brunius> Make it by Breaking Benjamin
33:19 <Brunius> They are better-er
33:33 <Lord> with guest appearence by mettalica
33:55 <Ballig> are you european, blord
34:03 <Lord> na, aussie
35:33 <Ballig> are your parents european
35:42 <Lord> mum is
36:08 <Lord> named me after russian guitarist
36:13 <Ballig> ahhh
37:36 * Lord slaps Lord around a bit with a large trout
37:46 <Lord> hhhhhmmmmmmmm
37:52 <Mort-> Sigh
38:03 <Ballig> bmort
38:10 <Lord> god damn it
38:21 <Mort-> My shoes fell apart
38:30 <Lord> bugger
38:30 <Mort-> While shopping
38:35 <Lord> that sucks
38:49 <Mort-> Its not the first time its happened to me
39:12 <Brunius> Is my name BBrunius
39:24 <Brunius> Mort-: Buy better shoes.
39:34 <Brunius> And always (ALWAYS) carry superglue.
39:44 <Brunius> And pray it doesn't stick to the inside of your pocket
39:46 <Brunius> (That sucks)
40:00 <Mort-> Haha
40:33 <Lord> i always use safety pins instead of glue
40:48 <Ballig> I can just imagine Brunius always carrying superglue
41:16 <Lord> should give him a tube to add to his char sheet
41:31 <Ballig> sovereign glue
41:33 <Ballig> wondrou sitem
41:54 <Lord> wondrou sitem?
42:14 <Brunius> he means a woundros item
42:27 <Lord> oh, ok
42:46 <Ballig> I have a habit of putting spaces in the wrong spots
42:57 <Brunius> I type pretty fast so it happens to me too
43:13 <Lord> i read what i type before i press enter
44:36 <Brunius> Who reads what they type.
44:57 <Lord> me
45:26 <Lord> well, i gotta go make dinner *sigh* so be back later
46:11 <Mort-> Heh
46:26 <Mort-> Did any game get started today?
46:31 <Brunius> Nope
06:16 <Ballig> that took way too long for me to figure out how to preserve the '+' characters in this output
37:07 <Brunius> "Use the solution used by roleplayers since the dawn of... roleplaying.
37:08 <Brunius> Roll for it. "
37:20 <Ballig> !throw 1d100
37:21 <diebot> Ballig, 1d100: [1d100=43] 43
37:22 <Ballig> I win
45:32 <Mort-> Should i smack ballig?
45:37 <Mort-> Roll dice on it :p
45:52 <Mort-> !throw 1d100
45:52 <diebot> Mort-, 1d100: [1d100=32] 32
45:55 <Ballig> !rng smack dontsmack dontsmack dontsmack dontsmack dontsmack dontsmack dontsmack
45:55 <diebot> Ballig, dontsmack
46:08 <Mort-> Wtf :p
46:18 <Ballig> the dice have spoken !
46:36 <Mort-> !rng smack dontsmack
46:36 <diebot> Mort-, smack
46:40 <Mort-> See?
46:44 <Ballig> :(
46:57 * Mort- smacks ballig
50:14 <Hydrazine> Fetch me a Shrubbery!
51:57 <Brunius> A what?
53:05 <***> Buffer Playback...
53:05 <***> Playback Complete.
53:16 tristen has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
53:16 <Lord> this is why i picked credlics, no one would have picked it already
53:19 <Brunius> He wants you to create the char Ava on the site
53:29 <Ballig> a shrubbery
53:38 <Spaceshot> can you make Ava for PFS
53:39 <Ballig> you can have the same name as someone else
53:40 <Spaceshot> yea that, thanks
53:46 <Ballig> not for your user account, but for your character
53:57 <Spaceshot> ?
54:06 <Ballig> not you
54:12 <Avatar> added, Spaceshot
54:16 <Brunius> You can't login as spaceshot while someone else logs in as spaceshot
54:28 <Ballig> I said not for the user account :p
54:33 <Brunius> He looked confused
55:20 <Spaceshot> I'm still confused as to what he's talking about
55:31 <Spaceshot> Avatar: thanks
56:05 <Brunius> You can have a character called Jim while someone else has a character called Jim, but you can't have the same login name as someone else
56:58 <Brunius> Mekkis, did you get my PM?
57:05 <MekkiSScreen> !idealscenario gm=10339 player=22876,22870,22871 redm=1 
57:13 * Mort- fetches hydrazine a shrubbery - got cookies?
57:35 <Brunius> !idealscenario gm=22870 player=22876,10339,22871 redm=1 
57:35 <diebot> Brunius, 1:Silent Tide |  
57:38 <MekkiSScreen> !idealscenario gm=10339 player=22876,22870,22871 redm=1 minlevel=1 maxlevel=5
57:39 <diebot> MekkiSScreen, 4:The Frozen Fingers of Midnight |  23:Tide of the Morning |  2-02 :Before the Dawn -- Part II: Rescue at Azlant Ridge  |  3:Murder on the Silken Caravan |  5:Mists of Mwangi |  8:Slaves Pits of Absalom |  2-13 :Murder on the Throaty Mermaid  |  2-23 :Shadow's Last Stand—Part I: At Shadow's Door  |  
57:39 <Brunius> Fu-
58:08 <Ballig> clearly diebot wants you to do Silent Tide
59:03 <Avatar> I think first steps is happening tomorrow
59:13 <Brunius> First Steps II, apparently
59:15 <Brunius> What time?
59:37 <Spaceshot> also, can't make it tomorrow
59:44 <Lord> how is it first steps if its number 2?
59:48 <Spaceshot> have an appointment at 2 in the city
59:53 <Avatar> there's 3 parts to it
00:05 <Avatar> okay Spaceshot
00:22 <Lord> just checking
00:35 <Lord> aaaaannnnnnndddddddd, i can do tomoz
00:39 <Ballig> there once was a man from nantucket
00:47 <Avatar> you better quickly finish your char tonight then
00:57 <Ballig> who had a fair bit of money because nantucket has a lot of wealthy residents so that's to be expected really
01:04 <Lord> what else do i need?
01:18 <Avatar> did you buy any weapons
01:30 <Lord> im unarmed monk
01:37 <Avatar> you have to clear out the weapons section then
01:49 <Lord> it is
02:25 <Spaceshot> don't forget that flurry is a full-round action
02:29 <Avatar> which 2 feats are you taking
02:36 <Spaceshot> so weapons aren't such a bad thing for a low level monk
02:38 <Ballig> looks like improved grapple?
02:40 <Ballig> and something else
03:14 <Avatar> there's 3 feats listed there
03:22 <Avatar> stunning fist is a class ability
03:26 <Spaceshot> yep
03:30 <Spaceshot> free level 1 feat
03:33 <Brunius> Night yo, apparently I have to go to sleep
03:37 <Brunius> Which is boooring
03:39 <Ballig> he gets a bonus feat at level 1 monk
03:40 <Lord> night
03:45 <Brunius> At least I'll be wide away for tomorrow!
03:49 <Brunius> (Or not)
03:54 <Lord> see ya then
03:55 Brunius is now known as Brunius_AFK
04:12 <Avatar> sleeping is the best thing in the world
05:00 <Brunius_AFK> You should have a nap
05:21 <Ballig> do it
05:33 <Lord> DO IT DO IT
11:54 <Lord> back
15:52 <Ballig> welcome back, blord
16:35 <Lord> so, does ballig.net belong to you ballig?
17:12 <Hydrazine> there once was a man from nantucket, whose dong was so long he could suck it..
17:17 <Ballig> it does
17:18 <Mort-> Lord
17:28 <Lord> ?
17:32 <Mort-> You joining us tomorrow on cred?
17:41 <Ballig> what's cred
17:42 <Lord> 10 am?
17:51 <Mort-> His monk
17:54 <Ballig> yeah 10am
18:00 <Mort-> I have problems spelling names :p
18:03 <Lord> credlics :)
18:15 <Mort-> Ah credlics
18:17 <Ballig> are you in QLD
18:22 <Lord> yup
18:24 <Ballig> then it's 9am
18:24 <Mort-> Qld?
18:33 <Lord> hot as shit and twice as unpleasent
18:36 <Mort-> For me its 7 am
18:52 <Mort-> So. Monk?
18:56 <Lord> yup
19:02 <Mort-> I've never partied with a monk before
19:09 <Mort-> I don't know what to expect!
19:11 <Lord> ive never partied before
19:14 * Mort- squeals
19:41 <Mort-> What's your ac like
19:51 <Spaceshot5989> I play a monk
20:06 <Lord> 13
20:12 <Spaceshot> really?
20:13 <Spaceshot> hahaha
20:17 <Hydrazine> 13 as a monk? how?
20:19 <Ballig> don't be a dick, Spaceshot
20:21 <Hydrazine> dex and wis
20:27 <Spaceshot> yea dex and wis
20:32 <Spaceshot> and bonus at certain levels
20:55 <Lord> im only lvl 1:(
21:31 <Spaceshot> what's your dex bonus? and what's your wisdom bonus?
21:38 <Ballig> +1 and +2
22:06 <Spaceshot> ok... I'm somewhat confused, but hopefully it works
22:25 <Lord> i hope so to
22:29 <Lord> too*
23:29 <Hydrazine> monks are awesome.
23:34 <Spaceshot> very
23:45 <Spaceshot> !findchar credlics
23:45 <Hydrazine> I love monks. You get tough as shit later on.
23:47 <diebot> Spaceshot, Character: credlics, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
23:56 <Lord> you joining tomoz space?
23:59 <Spaceshot> could be
24:02 <Ballig> (unlikely)
24:07 <Lord> naw
24:10 <Lord> who is?
24:19 <Spaceshot> unlikely yes, but it's all due to when I wake up
24:35 <Ballig> the rest of us will be probably
24:40 <Brunius> !findchar Credlics
24:42 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Credlics, number: 340( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=340 )
24:46 <Brunius> There you got spaceshot
24:47 <Spaceshot> oh yea capitals
25:12 <Spaceshot> why doesn't it to UPPER
25:14 <Spaceshot> or something
25:40 <Lord> lol
26:30 <Spaceshot> lord, why +1 cha?
26:42 <Lord> i am a sexy monk
26:57 <Spaceshot> haha
27:13 <Spaceshot> thats 20point buy?
27:14 <Spaceshot> huh
27:49 <Lord> what would you change?
27:57 <Lord> im open to suggestions
28:13 <Brunius> You forgot the racial bonus
28:22 <Brunius> You get a +2 to any stat as a human
28:30 <Lord> SWEET
29:02 <Lord> so.....+2 to the mod or the actual stat?
29:11 <Brunius> To the stat
29:12 <Lord> SWEET
29:44 <Avatar> SWEET
30:08 <Brunius> It is rather
30:28 <Spaceshot> yep
30:49 <Spaceshot> also in PFS many characters are optimised
30:55 <Spaceshot> doesn't mean you have to, but many are
31:42 <Avatar> that's not really necessarily true
32:11 <Lord> if i increase my wis to 16 do i get +3 mod?
32:30 <Avatar> yeah
32:40 <Spaceshot> yup
32:47 <Avatar> you want all your stats to be even if possible
33:00 <Spaceshot> not really
33:07 <Avatar> 10,11 = +0, 12,13 = +1, etc
33:11 <Avatar> yes really
33:25 <Spaceshot> no, you want at least 1 odd stat
33:36 <Spaceshot> because you only get 3 stat points in PFS
33:44 <Avatar> what
34:16 <Spaceshot> you only get 3 stat increases in PFS
34:35 <Avatar> only the 4th and 8th ones particularly matter
34:44 <Ballig> the 12th barely counts
35:10 <Brunius> You get 6 scenarios with it
35:18 <Ballig> yeah
35:19 <Brunius> I think
35:19 <Ballig> barely counts
35:29 <Spaceshot> 17 in your main stat is better than 18
35:34 <Spaceshot> because you get 5 points to spend
35:46 <Ballig> Spaceshot, you've played PFS once
35:50 <Ballig> I realise you love to theorise all day
35:54 <Ballig> but you can't exactly speak with authority
35:57 <Lord> ok, re-uploaded sheet if you wanna look.
36:17 <Lord> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=340
37:09 <Spaceshot> Ballig: theorising is good
37:17 <Ballig> I love to theorise too :p
37:22 <Ballig> I think most of us do
37:29 <Spaceshot> somewhat
37:38 <Ballig> just be careful how you word your opinions to brand new people
37:39 <Spaceshot> my life is a bit hectic at the moment to play games
37:40 <Avatar> that's 21 points I think
37:46 <Ballig> when they are impressionable and don't realise you dont' actually play
37:46 <Brunius> Nope
37:49 <Brunius> I checked it Avatar
37:52 <Brunius> 20 points
37:57 <Spaceshot> I'm trying to help people not make a cairo XD
38:04 <Avatar> 3 12's is 6 points, 3 14's is 15 points
39:20 <Avatar> Lord's character and Cairo don't have any similarities either way
39:29 <Spaceshot> no I mean a busted character
39:30 <Spaceshot> XD
39:41 <Avatar> but you are, if you're recommending that they have odd stats
39:51 <Spaceshot> no, 1 odd stat is good
39:51 <Brunius> It wasn't 3 14s before
39:53 <Ballig> an odd stat doesn't make it busted
39:59 <Ballig> it depends how they plan out the character
40:01 <Spaceshot> means that at level 4 it becomes even
40:12 <Ballig> but I wouldn't /necessarily/ recommend that someone put an odd stat every time
40:18 <Brunius> It's 4 14s now!
40:22 <Spaceshot> XD
40:34 <Avatar> I don't know anyone who doesn't aim for even stats
40:44 <Avatar> Brunius: +2 for human
40:47 <Ballig> if it's a secondary stat but important enough to spend a stat increase on and you can't use the point anywhere else effectively, sure
41:05 <Spaceshot> do you put a spellcasters main stat at 18 or 17 in point buy?
41:18 <Brunius> It was 14/13/13/12/14/12 before
41:19 <Ballig> I wouldn't ever do 17
41:36 <Spaceshot> why not? you don't really gain any benefit from 17
41:41 <Ballig> if it's not important enough to be 18 then it's not important enough to be 17
41:41 <Spaceshot> over 18
41:42 <Ballig> and should be 16
41:50 <Ballig> if it's that important, make it 18
41:55 <Ballig> so that it becomes 19 at level 4 and then 20 at level 8
42:00 <Ballig> otherwise it's going to be 19 at level 8
42:00 <Ballig> and then what do you do
42:09 <Brunius> Lord - It's +2 to any ONE stat, not +1 to any two stats
42:52 <Lord> :(
46:46 <Brunius> That's more like it :)
47:10 <Spaceshot> team monk
47:10 <Spaceshot> XD
47:17 <Spaceshot> or I'll make my oracle
47:32 <Spaceshot> !findchar Ava
47:35 <diebot> Spaceshot, Character: Ava, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
48:06 <Lord> !findchar ava
48:07 <diebot> Lord, Character: ava, number: 209( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=209 )
48:11 <Lord> :)
48:15 <Lord> no caps
48:18 <Spaceshot> wtf?
48:37 <Brunius> Haha
48:44 <Brunius> It's not even your character
49:05 <Brunius> It's matched it to someone from a different campaign
49:09 <Spaceshot> oh
49:26 <Spaceshot> I thought I made Ava
49:41 <Spaceshot> as in asked for the namespaces
49:43 <Spaceshot> namespace8
49:44 <Spaceshot> *
49:56 <Avatar> Cry More!
50:01 <Brunius> It's matched it to Savant
50:07 <Spaceshot> thought you put it up there avatar
50:13 <Avatar> nope
50:19 <Avatar> I don't think I would make a char called Ava
50:23 <Spaceshot> can you
51:23 <Avatar> can I what
08:08 <Lord> 10!
08:08 <Brunius_AFK> 11am, aww yeah!
08:20 <Lord> SHIT! so close
08:52 <Brunius_AFK> It's only a "Is your medication working? Good, go away" type appointment, so there shouldn't be much interuption
09:09 <Brunius_AFK> Except for the fact I think my medication is making my throat bleed
09:24 <Brunius_AFK> Avatar, Ballig, opinions?
09:32 <Ballig> what's the medication
09:34 <Lord> get better medicine
09:37 <Brunius_AFK> Seretide
09:39 <Ballig> hmm
09:45 <Ballig> ask them about symbicort
10:03 <Brunius_AFK> About 10 minutes after I take it, my throat bleeds for like half an hour
10:17 <Lord> thats not good
10:19 <Ballig> yeah they'll definitely need to know that
10:56 <Brunius_AFK> So yeah, if I'm DMing tomorrow, game wil have to be late, if Avatar is, I'll be late to it
11:04 <Brunius_AFK> Night guys
11:10 <Ballig> tata
12:20 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 10-11am (Avatar/Brunius, new game) / Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
12:20 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Jan 18 21:44:05 2012
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12:55 <Avatar> uh oh
12:58 <tashes> can i pass on a message?
13:00 <Avatar> mort might have some competition for night owl status
13:11 <Avatar> yeah, ask him what his character name is
13:16 <Spaceshot> heh
13:21 <Mekkis> ask him more about his character
13:23 <Lord> so, in the end was my monk ok?
13:23 <Mekkis> appearance
13:28 <Mekkis> morals
13:29 <Avatar> no, just a name
13:29 <Mekkis> family
13:38 <Lord> or do his feats need work?
13:42 <Avatar> blood type
13:53 <tashes> he doesnt know yet
13:54 <Avatar> moles
14:02 <Avatar> see at the bottom of the feats list
14:07 <Avatar> where it says (human) and (1st)
14:14 <Avatar> that's space for the two feats you can select
14:14 <Lord> kk
14:24 <Avatar> improved unarmed strike is an exception, because it's a free clsas feat
14:27 <Avatar> class*
14:39 <Lord> same as stunning
14:41 <Lord> ?
14:43 <Avatar> stunning fist is a class ability
14:46 <Avatar> you can't take it as a feat
14:52 <Lord> ok
15:13 <Ballig> you should have three feats
15:19 <Ballig> one bonus monk feat, a level 1 feat, and a human feat
15:24 <Ballig> the rest are class abilities that your class give you
15:25 <Avatar> oh monks get a bonus feat too
15:31 <Ballig> yeah
15:35 <Ballig> I think he took improved grapple with that?
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15:43 <Mort-> Then i generally sleep as little as possible
15:46 <Mort-> Like 4 h per night
15:51 <Avatar> yeah you actually have it right
15:52 <Ballig> he also took dodge
15:58 <Ballig> and, I think, skill focus
16:03 <Ballig> so those are the three feats
16:06 <Lord> yeah
16:19 <Mekkis> everyone in the group I DMed today could tell me that
16:26 <tashes> pretty mcuh
16:29 <Mekkis> they didn't need prompting
16:32 <Avatar> I think the rest of the sheet is fine after you clear that sectoin
17:03 <Lord> so, where do i put stunning fist?
17:16 <Avatar> misc bonuses
17:45 <Avatar> you didn't have to list every misc bonus you get at every level, just the ones you have so far
17:52 <Avatar> but what you've got there is fine if you're happy to keep it like that
17:54 <Avatar> you mean you didn't have to force it out of them
18:04 <Avatar> you don't get any deity bonuses
18:19 <Spaceshot> Mort-: kd?
18:20 <Lord> :(
18:26 <Mekkis> they volunteered it
18:47 <Avatar> yeah lucky they volunteered it otherwise they might have had homework !
18:51 <Ballig> ha
19:17 <Mort-> Another game
19:19 <Mort-> Utopia
19:50 <Spaceshot> no I mean does kd = kill/death ratio?
20:02 <Avatar> check this for your encumberance: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/alignment-description/carrying-capacity
20:15 <Spaceshot9538> that's under alignment?
20:17 <Spaceshot9538> hehe
20:30 <Mekkis> Matt - Starwyn - Rogue/Druid (a sweet half elven girl with a friendly shadow panther)
20:32 <Avatar> alignment & description
20:51 <Lord> HELL YEAH no encumbrance
20:59 <Avatar> HELLS YEAH
20:59 <Ballig> Mekkis: that's awesome, if that's how they like to play
21:06 <Avatar> victory fanfare
21:07 <Ballig> but you shouldn't /force/ people to play the way you like to play
21:26 <Ballig> one sec, let me turn my keyboard on
21:35 <Spaceshot> ballig is right
21:40 <Ballig> okay I played it
21:42 <Mort-> No?
21:43 <Avatar> yeah everyone get on skype
21:45 <Spaceshot> if people only play for the fun of it and because it's a game, good for them
21:46 <Mekkis> Ballig, I agree with you
21:49 <Ballig> haha
21:50 <Mort-> But wow 
21:54 <Spaceshot> if they want to get deep into the character, again, good for them
22:00 <Mort-> Shadow panther
22:07 <Ballig> and before you tell me that in-depth roleplaying is an integral part of the game, it isn't :p
22:18 <Mort-> I still don't know how to rp too well
22:43 <Mort-> My character is still having a lot of my personality
22:48 <Ballig> and people are able to have a sense of character and roleplay without actually analysing their character
23:07 <Mort-> Poog is cool though :p
23:15 <Spaceshot> I don't bother to go in-depth and make a flavoured character for PFS
23:16 <Mort-> I mixed lots of silliness in
23:26 <Spaceshot> though for a regular campaign then sure
23:39 <Lord> whats your skype name?
23:41 <Mort-> I put lots of silly into poog
23:49 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, I've found that for PFS it's more important than less
23:57 <Spaceshot9538> it's FF7
23:59 <Spaceshot9538> should be FF8
24:07 <Spaceshot> but you can't really make connections with other characters
24:37 <Avatar> mekkis you know what's really ironic
24:49 <Avatar> the character I actually had roleplayed out was Roger
25:06 * Lord slaps Ballig around a bit with a large trout
25:08 <Avatar> and I tried to roleplay him and he got butchered in the first 2 scenarios we ever played
25:12 <Mekkis> you have to portray your character so people actually remember him
25:13 * Lord slaps Brunius_AFK around a bit with a large trout
25:14 * Lord slaps diebot around a bit with a large trout
25:17 * Lord slaps Hydrazine around a bit with a large trout
25:20 * Lord slaps Mekkis around a bit with a large trout
25:23 * Lord slaps Mort- around a bit with a large trout
25:25 * Lord slaps Spaceshot9538 around a bit with a large trout
25:25 <Ballig> can you not do that
25:25 <Spaceshot> why do other people matter?
25:32 <Ballig> most people have a highlight set to their name
25:33 <Mort-> What?
25:33 <Avatar> so really, you taught me not to roleplay
25:36 <Ballig> so you're just annoying a bunch of people :p
25:43 <Ballig> you can play your character memorably without having to analyse it to the nth degree
25:44 <Spaceshot> roleplaying has nothing to do with others views and memory
25:50 <Lord> shit, sry
25:52 <Avatar> or to limit it, I should say
25:53 <Mort-> What is it?
25:59 <Mort-> I .
25:59 <Lord> shit
26:05 <Ballig> ha
26:08 <Mekkis> Roger? he didn't even have a last name...
26:15 <Mort-> You know i respond to highlights 
26:21 <Lord> sry dude
26:22 <Avatar> his last name was Ordinary
26:24 <Ballig> he doesn't necessarily know t hat
26:26 <Ballig> give him a break :p
26:32 <Mort-> Mort paddypaws?
26:35 <Mekkis> (until I asked)
26:38 <Avatar> and it was going to be built into his character
26:44 <Mort-> Or swishy tail :p
26:54 <Avatar> he could use catch lines like "I'm Roger Ordinary. Or, you could say, Roger EXTRA-Ordinary!"
26:55 <Mort-> That's for lemurs though :(
27:03 <Avatar> he was a bard with perform (comedy)
27:14 * Mort- cries
27:17 <Spaceshot9538> sry?
27:20 <Spaceshot9538> srsbsns
27:23 <Mort-> Its like he is here
27:26 <Ballig> hardly any of my characters have a last name
27:37 <Ballig> I feel like it's pretty irrelevant to basically everything, unless I go into a lot of family detail
27:43 <Mort-> Hm
28:04 <Mort-> I can spin up nice stories of morts family
28:06 <Spaceshot> I don't bother with last names in PFS, or with many races
28:29 <Mort-> She has a elven twin somewhere around
29:01 <Mort-> Seperated at birth because of a raid
29:17 <Mort-> Presumed dead or sold to slavery
29:33 <Mort-> But twin bond doesn't seem to indicate she's dead.
30:07 <Mekkis> how old was Mort when she started really studying wizardry?
30:10 <Spaceshot> the main issue with backstory/background and stuff is that the DM can't add that to the campaign in PFS
30:27 <Ballig> three
30:27 <Ballig> she was three
30:27 <Mort-> I don't know how old elves are
30:31 <Mort-> Lol
30:43 <Mort-> To get to teenage years
31:02 <Spaceshot> think hobbits
31:08 <Spaceshot> I think is elven years in dnd
31:30 <tashes> avatar
31:34 <tashes> Avatar, 
31:36 <tashes> AVATAR
31:41 <Mekkis> Elves reach adulthood in 110 years
31:43 <Mort-> Mort probably has a whole bunch of half sibs around the world ><
31:57 <Mort-> Ok so lets put at 30 then? 
31:59 <Mekkis> typical wizards start adventuring 10d6 years after that
32:00 <Avatar> WHAT
32:13 <Mort-> Did i put character age?
32:24 <Mort-> You can start early 
32:39 <Mort-> Training of a spellcaster takes time
32:53 <Mort-> Since in real life 21 you are considered adult
33:04 <Mekkis> 18 over here
33:06 <Mort-> Your education starts at 7?
33:16 <Mort-> 21 here
33:41 <Mort-> Ok say she started at 30 then
34:16 <Mekkis> how did she meet her familiar?
35:00 <Mort-> Hm. Her master told her to do the ritual calling.
35:13 <Mort-> Clear her mind. And then the familiar would come
35:38 <Mort-> Saying that - the familiar most suited to her would come
35:44 <Mort-> And socks!
36:06 <Mort-> That was at about 60?
36:31 <Avatar> tashes
38:06 <tashes> HI
38:10 <tashes> i was pinging you earlier.
38:15 <tashes> what's happening tomorrow?
38:35 <Avatar> we're playing, remember
40:07 <Mort-> Damn I'm going to have a problem in finding a nice story when i switch familiars :(
40:20 <Mekkis> Mort-, PM...
40:40 <tashes> yeah, what?
40:50 <tashes> what time*
41:40 <Ballig> 9.30am your time
42:22 <tashes> ..
42:40 <Avatar> see the topic
42:46 <Avatar> those times are melb/syd time
42:51 <tashes> why move it forward?
42:58 <Avatar> is it a problem
42:59 <tashes> it was 11!
43:10 <Avatar> I asked this morning if we could move it back
43:14 <Avatar> you didn't answer
43:18 <tashes> was i sleeping?
43:20 <Mekkis> do you get the reference, Mort-?
43:24 <Avatar> probably !
43:29 <tashes> 'cos that generallly means it's a bad time!
43:31 <Mekkis> or do you consider that PM-spam too much?
43:39 <Avatar> I thought you would have answered when you came back
43:43 <Avatar> or anytime today
43:48 <tashes> ididnt notice :(
43:59 <Mort-> Hm
44:00 <tashes> FINE. i'll be cranky though.
44:02 <Mort-> Will take a while
44:15 <Avatar> just be here as early as you can
44:15 <tashes> i c wut u did thar
44:16 <Mort-> Could probably come up with a shorter tail
44:32 <tashes> you say that, but i know you're gonna wake me up 
44:47 <Mort-> Familiars are still flesh and blood creatures right :(
44:49 <Avatar> if you're not here by 10.30, you're damn right I will
44:51 <Ballig> why is 9.30am hard to do
45:09 <Ballig> you can still be up for like another two hours and still get 9 hours sleep
45:41 <Ballig> Avatar: need to plan a bit better than that. if she's literally going to sleep until you wake her up, you can't just say "if you're not here by 10.30 I will"
45:48 <Ballig> because then you might as well just schedule the game for 11 and be done with it
46:26 <Avatar> or we could start earlier if people are here
46:28 <tashes> nah, i'll be here 5 mins after he wakes me up
46:36 <tashes> and in those 5 mins i'll wake up hydra
46:59 <Ballig> right, so if you are absolutely going to rely on him waking you up, he needs to do it before 10.30
46:59 <Avatar> I guess I could make it 10.30-11 
47:03 <Ballig> or else he might as well make the game for that time
47:28 <tashes> i think he just did
47:30 <Ballig> one thing I want to do is reduce the amount of prep time we spend
47:36 <Ballig> we organise a game for 10 and we don't start playing until 11
47:44 <Spaceshot9538> why not just wake her up at 9:30?
47:54 <Ballig> because Avatar is weird about calling/texting people
47:57 <tashes> fuck off Spaceshot9538, nobody wants your opinion
48:07 <Ballig> settle :p
48:18 <tashes> i get protective over my sleep.
48:42 <Avatar> yeah
48:48 <Spaceshot> tashes: you're getting a bit aggressive
48:49 <Mort-> Means i can't leave socks
48:51 <Mort-> Hm
48:53 <Mort-> Sigh
49:00 <Avatar> I'm not weird about it
49:04 <Avatar> I don't like doing it unnecessarily
49:09 <Avatar> mr let's call them 7 times until they get up
49:29 <tashes> one text and my phone'll keep rinigng.
49:43 <Avatar> forget that I will call you 7 times
49:51 <Ballig> do it
49:54 <Ballig> why risk her not waking up
49:59 <Avatar> because it's annoying
50:08 <Ballig> anything that wakes you up is annoying
50:09 <Ballig> that's the point
50:14 <Ballig> your alarm doesn't politely whisper in your ear once and then give up
50:16 <Avatar> not when an sms will do the trick
50:20 <Ballig> but will it
50:23 <Ballig> or does it
50:25 <Avatar> it usually does
50:28 <Ballig> like when they ignore your first text
50:34 <Ballig> are you allowed to then call
50:48 <Avatar> after 7 calls I would regret giving you my phone number
51:05 <Lord> to quote Ballig "settle"
51:10 <Ballig> Lord: don't quote me
51:15 <Avatar> don't ban me pls :(
51:44 <Ballig> Avatar and I have known each other for years, we're allowed to banter
51:48 <Ballig> tashes and spaceshot however don't get along :p
52:07 <Spaceshot> I don't believe it's mutual ballig
52:07 <Lord> i know noone :D
52:10 <Spaceshot> she just down right hates me
52:16 <Mort-> Fk sleep
52:22 <Avatar> poor Spaceshot
52:25 <Mort-> I even ran on 24 h no sleep
52:33 <Mort-> 2 more days on 4h
52:49 <Spaceshot> very saddening
53:13 <tashes> And this is why i gave avatar my number, rather than ballig
53:38 <Ballig> bullshit it is
53:52 <Ballig> don't even try to pretend that
54:12 <Ballig> these are the people I've texted or called from this channel: Avatar, Brunius, snypt
54:30 <Avatar> haha
54:37 <Avatar> I believe you tashes
54:45 <Ballig> except that I didn't call you until like two weeks ago
54:49 <Ballig> and she gave you her number like 6 months ago
54:51 <Ballig> how does that line up?
54:57 <Avatar> oh she knew
54:59 <Avatar> she knew
55:01 <Ballig> no, she didn't
55:06 <Spaceshot> hehe
55:08 <Ballig> and frankly it's offensive that she'd suggest it
55:14 <tashes> Lol
55:20 <tashes> hey i gave you my skype :p
55:41 <Spaceshot> close enough to a phone number
59:52 <Mekkis> you know, there's nothing stopping a DM from slipping in some character background into a PFS mod
04:15 <Avatar> Hydrazine: are you about
04:36 <Avatar> aren't all floridians up at 7am
05:16 <Ballig> he was up pretty late
05:35 <Mekkis> is Brunius running First Steps 2 tomorrow?
07:08 <Avatar> I don't think we know what's running tomorrow
07:10 <Avatar> or who's running it
07:14 <Avatar> we need to know who shows up
07:23 <Avatar> I think either way we're leaning towards first steps
07:30 <Avatar> not sure which part
07:51 <Avatar> if we get too many players, he'll run first steps 2 and I'll probably run first steps 1
08:12 <Avatar> or either of us have the option of doing proper scenarios
10:38 <tashes> he just went to bed
12:44 <Avatar> when is he going to decide if he is going to sleep now !
12:57 <tashes> in th morning!
13:11 <Avatar> cutting it fine
13:17 <Avatar> is he on the same sleep schedule as you
13:34 <Mort-> I am a lark
13:46 <Mort-> Except when my kd is at war
32:24 <Avatar> how do half-elves choose two favoured classes at first level
32:28 <Avatar> when they can only have one class
33:03 <Ballig> do they have to take it at first class
33:07 <Ballig> if so, I'd say they're meant to plan
34:20 <Avatar> that's a bit shit
34:27 <Avatar> I don't think I would ever enforce that
34:46 <Spaceshot> PFS does though
35:00 <Avatar> it can't
35:16 <Spaceshot> how can't it?
35:28 <Avatar> how do you enforce something you can't even take until minimum 2nd level
35:36 <Ballig> you actually can't enforce it
35:41 <Ballig> in PFS
35:41 <Spaceshot> your logic baffles me
35:42 <Ballig> you're expected not to ch eat
35:55 <Ballig> but there's no way to know whether a character has been changed
36:01 <Ballig> you can only see that it's PFS legal
36:03 <Spaceshot> you can be a level 1 human fighter, with barbarian as your favoured class
36:11 <Lord> well, im out, see you guys tomoz.
36:13 <Ballig> tata
36:16 <Avatar> seeya
36:21 Lord has quit (Quit: )
36:23 <Avatar> Spaceshot: that's an exception that never really happens
36:42 <Spaceshot> so what's the difference of having a level 1 half-elf fighter with fighter and barbarian as favoured class?
37:14 <Avatar> the point is it's uncommon to know that you're planning to multiclass into a specific class at a later level
37:32 <Spaceshot> maybe
37:49 <Spaceshot> but you can also favoured class into a prestige class if you wish
37:58 <Spaceshot> like alchemist and master chymist
38:20 <Ballig> prestige classes can never be favoured classes
38:26 <Spaceshot> where does it say that?
38:31 <Ballig> in the bit about favoured class
38:48 <Avatar> I thought master chymist was an archetype
39:03 <Spaceshot> nope prestige
39:08 <Spaceshot> jeckyl hyde
39:33 <Spaceshot> so they can't
39:38 <Spaceshot> that seems a bit balls for a half-elf
39:50 <Ballig> I wish bobbob had two favoured classes
40:05 <Spaceshot> isn't he a gnome though?
40:08 <Ballig> yes
40:53 <Avatar> hence the wish
40:55 <Avatar> :P
41:12 <Avatar> what's better, +2 to will saves or +3 to a single skill
41:16 <Spaceshot> not sure why, but ok
41:22 <Ballig> what's your will
41:26 <Spaceshot> how important is that single skill?
41:30 <Avatar> 3
41:33 <Ballig> Spaceshot: because I'm cavalier3/fighter2
41:35 <Avatar> it's any single skill
41:39 <Avatar> skill focus
41:48 <Spaceshot> no I mean not sure why you're a gnome
41:49 <Ballig> are you taking the feat skill focus
41:55 <Avatar> it's a racial trait
41:56 <Ballig> Spaceshot: I chose the pregen at random
42:00 <Spaceshot> haha
42:03 <Spaceshot> and stuck with it?
42:05 <Ballig> yeah
42:11 <Spaceshot> cbf doing your own
42:14 <Spaceshot> nice strat
42:18 <Ballig> I've done heaps of my own
42:22 <Ballig> but that first game I was being pushed into playing
42:27 <Ballig> when I hadn't made a character
42:31 <Avatar> you didn't want to play PFS?
42:39 <Ballig> not especially
42:47 <Avatar> man
42:51 <Avatar> how things change
42:54 <Ballig> :p
42:59 <Spaceshot> could you of played the pregen and then given the credit to a made cav?
43:01 <Ballig> and anyway, I find a unique challenge in playing a character you didn't make
43:06 <Ballig> I could have, but I didn't know that at the time
43:19 <Avatar> we didn't really know much of anything about PFS when we first started
43:39 <Avatar> it is pretty cool that you have had the challenge of it
43:54 <Avatar> not something most experienced players can claim to have done
44:05 <Spaceshot> I have
44:07 <Avatar> taken a pregen after knowing full well how to create their own characters
44:20 <Spaceshot> and it ended up with me running whilst the rest of the party got owned by orcs and an ogre
44:23 <Spaceshot> it was funny :P
44:33 <Avatar> did they get owned because you fled
44:35 <Spaceshot> it was at a con
44:43 <Ballig> so probably
44:45 <Spaceshot> no, we were already owned
44:56 <Spaceshot> 5 lvl 1s vs like 6 orcs and an ogre
45:00 <Spaceshot> in a cave
45:06 <Spaceshot> with 2 humans, and not much light
45:23 <Spaceshot> 2 of the players were human, I was an elf cleric
45:28 <Spaceshot> I bolted with the only torch XD
45:33 <Spaceshot> once the rest of the team was downed
46:06 <Ballig> did it end up that way because your character sucked
46:16 <Avatar> that is pretty funny
46:24 <Avatar> why not drop the torch !
46:25 <Spaceshot> I didn't make it
46:33 <Spaceshot> the stats weren't the best laid out
46:41 <Spaceshot> but I ran with it, didn't really have time to make another
46:48 <Spaceshot> it was for the 3.5 equiv of PFS
46:53 <Ballig> yeah
47:04 <Ballig> but I think Avatar meant actually playing the character long-term
47:06 <Ballig> when you didn't make it
47:10 <Ballig> I mean, people play pregens
47:13 <Avatar> 3.5 had a living campaign/
47:14 <Spaceshot> oh, I would of if I could of
47:16 <Ballig> Avatar: yeah
47:24 <Avatar> yeah I did mean long term
47:26 <Spaceshot> no one played the 3.5 PFS equiv in adelaide
47:58 <Spaceshot> yea they had greyhawk or something that sounded similar
48:09 <Spaceshot> australia is the land of lizardmen and savage orcs
48:31 <Spaceshot> especially SA
49:55 <Ballig> it was called RPGA I think
50:00 <Ballig> Roleplaying Game Association
50:02 <Ballig> or something like that
50:13 <Spaceshot> RPGA but the world was called greyhawk or something like that
50:23 <Spaceshot> like how PFS is golarion
58:03 <Avatar> I never really thought I would get invested in the world of golarion at all, but I feel kind of compelled to learn more about it
58:35 <Spaceshot> heh
58:44 <Avatar> having said that, I don't think I've ever really seen a GM who properly distinguishes between people in different areas
58:49 <Avatar> John, maybe
59:15 <Avatar> mekkis did a pretty reasonable job of characterising the faction leaders in first steps 1
59:58 <Ballig> yeah
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