// #d&d — 2012-01-19
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00:00:04 <Ballig> it'll be worthwhile reading for when we write a scenario
00:01:27 <Avatar> did anyone answer me about will saves +2 or skill focus !
00:01:58 <Avatar> I could also take a exotic or martial weap proficiency, but that's not really suited to a witch
00:02:43 <Spaceshot> hmm... if I got exotic weapon prof katana
00:02:43 <Ballig> is this a feat
00:02:51 <Spaceshot> would I know how to use it one-handed and two-handed
00:03:02 <Ballig> and whether or not +3 to a skill is going to help you will probably depend on your character focus
00:03:18 <Ballig> I would probably be more inclined to go +2 will
00:03:19 <Spaceshot> witch = fly :P
00:06:59 <Avatar> yeah not until 5th level :(
00:07:06 <Avatar> it's a racial trait
00:07:09 <Avatar> and alternate racial traits
00:07:18 <Mort-> Id say will save
00:07:22 <Avatar> I think my character focus is actually more inclined on skills
00:07:26 <Mort-> Important to tanks
00:07:31 <Avatar> I'm a witch
00:07:33 <Avatar> not a tank
00:07:33 <Mort-> Wi
00:07:36 <Mort-> Oh
00:07:52 <Mort-> Then you can go skills
00:08:02 <Spaceshot> if a weapon has, 'to use it one handed it's exotic but to use it two handed it counts as a marital weapon' do I have to have 2 profficiencies to use it as either? or just exotic for that weapon?
00:08:03 <Mort-> Your will save is decent already
00:08:28 <Mort-> I think you need both
00:08:47 <Mort-> Are whips exotic weapons?
00:09:00 <Spaceshot> I believe so
00:09:07 <Avatar> on my EM witch I had skill focus bluff
00:10:48 <Mort-> I see nothing wrong with a witch with a whip
00:10:55 <Mort-> Please dress in all black
00:11:02 <Mort-> Then we get kinky :p
00:11:26 <Spaceshot> with prehesile(spelling is really bad there) hair?
00:11:43 <Avatar> I keep forgetting the advantage of a whip
00:11:48 <Mort-> Oh yeah :p
00:11:48 <Avatar> to aid another?
00:12:04 <Mort-> Actually i don't think a whip is too useful
00:12:15 <Mort-> Just rp purposes
00:12:54 <Mort-> whip deals nonlethal damage. It deals no damage to any creature with an armor bonus of +1 or higher or a natural armor bonus of +3 or higher. The whip is treated as a melee weapon with 15-foot reach, though you don’t threaten the area into which you can make an attack. In addition, unlike most other weapons with reach, you can use it against foes anywhere within your reach (including adjacent foes).
00:12:55 <Mort-> Hm
00:12:56 <Spaceshot> I loved whips because of complete scoundrel
00:12:57 <Mort-> It actually is
00:13:03 <Spaceshot> spiked whip :P
00:13:26 <Mort-> 15 foot reach
00:13:33 <Mort-> But dmg sux
00:13:48 <Spaceshot> I loved my whip climbing
00:14:02 <Mort-> And you can trip people up
00:14:06 <Mort-> Disarm people
00:14:51 <Spaceshot> whip climbing shadowcaster was probably my favoured character I ever had
00:15:08 <Spaceshot> even if the class was a bit average and whip climbing took a bunch of skills and feats to take
00:16:08 Sachiru_AFK is now known as Sachiru
00:19:51 <Mort-> All right night all
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00:27:31 <Avatar> I think you can use it for aid another
00:27:38 <Avatar> but don't you have to reach their AC for that
00:27:49 <Ballig> you have to reach 10
00:27:53 <Avatar> oh
00:28:00 <Ballig> if you could reach their AC you'd just attack them
00:28:01 <Avatar> does that include your BAB
00:28:05 <Ballig> yeah
00:28:09 <Ballig> are you talking about whip
00:28:10 <Avatar> see, mine for melee is -2
00:28:12 <Avatar> yeah
00:28:16 <Ballig> you can aid another with any weapon
00:28:23 <Avatar> but the whip has the reach?
00:28:25 <Ballig> right
00:28:34 <Avatar> can you aid with a crossbow
00:28:36 <Ballig> pretty sure you can aid another with an arrow or bolt too
00:28:41 <Ballig> basically you're distracting them
00:28:46 <Avatar> yeah and they just dont' take damage
00:28:51 <Ballig> yeah
00:28:54 <Avatar> well it's not worth a whip if I can use an xbow
00:28:57 <Ballig> but someone else gets a +2 to their next attack
00:30:46 <Spaceshot> whip allows for trip
00:31:14 <Spaceshot> hmm... dual whip trip battle oracle half-elf
00:31:24 <Spaceshot> or is there a better reach tripping weapon?
00:31:33 <Avatar> yeah, crossbows
00:31:47 <Spaceshot> you can trip with a crossbow?
00:31:48 <Avatar> I don't know if aid another works on more than one attack?
00:31:54 <Avatar> per person
00:32:04 <Avatar> it sorts of makes sense that it would, but that seems very unbalancing
00:32:16 <Ballig> it only works on one attack
00:32:23 <Avatar> is the rule specific about that?
00:32:30 <Ballig> pretty sure
00:33:11 <Avatar> aid another is like a skill check, not an attack
00:33:20 <Avatar> I think
00:33:33 <Ballig> maybe you can't use a ranged attack
00:33:35 <Avatar> or a manuever (but not a "combat manuever"
00:33:37 <Ballig> page 197, special attacks
00:33:46 <Avatar> yeah it does say melee
00:33:59 <Ballig> and it's definitely next attack roll
00:34:21 <Spaceshot> yea I'll make Ava an oracle
00:34:38 <Avatar> nice
00:34:39 <Spaceshot> either support caster, or a battle maniac :P
00:34:57 <Avatar> nobody's rolled up an oracle yet
00:35:07 <Spaceshot> I think oracle is awesome
00:35:13 <Spaceshot> it's my favoured class, but fixed
00:35:22 <Spaceshot> favoured soul was awesome except 1 huge flaw
00:35:24 <Avatar> I think most people compare them to clerics, and channelling always wins out
00:35:29 <Spaceshot> you needed 2 stats for casting
00:35:41 <Avatar> I don't know what mekkis' logic was with kernighan to create a battle cleric who could only channel 2/day
00:35:46 <Spaceshot> XD
00:36:01 <Spaceshot> selective channeling negative is way better for battle
00:36:11 <Avatar> he channels positive
00:36:17 <Spaceshot> ???
00:36:22 <Ballig> he channels positive
00:36:23 <Spaceshot> and he's a battle cleric?
00:36:24 <Ballig> but he dumped charisma
00:36:28 <Ballig> so can only do it twice a day
00:36:30 <Spaceshot> o...k...
00:36:40 <Ballig> he doesn't like to heal in combat
00:37:13 <Spaceshot> I know that much
00:37:18 <Spaceshot> but then why channel possitive?
00:37:28 <Avatar> channelling negative does seem like the battle cleric's only redeeming factor doesn't it
00:37:36 <Avatar> or divine spells I guess
00:37:48 <Spaceshot> divine spells are mainly buffs
00:37:58 <Spaceshot> there are a few damaging spells at level 3+
00:38:01 <Avatar> dunno
00:38:12 <Ballig> he doesn't like to channel for damage
00:38:18 <Ballig> because it has a save and the damage isn't good
00:38:30 <Spaceshot> ?? so why is he a cleric?
00:38:37 <Ballig> I don't know man ask him :p
00:38:53 <Spaceshot> you seem to know all the things he dislikes, I thought you'd know
00:38:55 <Ballig> the save /is/ pretty easy to meet, though
00:38:55 <Avatar> his feats reflect a fighter rather than a spellcaster, but his abilities reflect a spellcaster
00:39:07 <Ballig> it'd be better if it used wisdom or used full cleric level instead of 1/2
00:39:13 <Ballig> but then it might be too powerful
00:39:42 <Spaceshot> heh
00:39:50 <Spaceshot> he's trying to do what isn't the smartest
00:40:02 <Ballig> it's worked out fine
00:40:04 <Avatar> I thought he was trying to prove what a good cleric build looks like
00:40:15 <Avatar> which included not healing during combat
00:40:25 <Avatar> maybe that meant dumping the channels
00:40:29 <Spaceshot> I don't really take many of mekkis' views on 'good builds'
00:40:37 <Avatar> especially since selective channelling wasn't on his list of feats to take
00:43:07 <Spaceshot> meh
00:43:24 <Spaceshot> a fun character is a good build
00:43:29 <Spaceshot> not a good build is a fun character
00:58:35 <Avatar> amen to dat
00:59:10 <Avatar> another thing worth mentioning is that for my EM witch, I had skill focus put into bluff
00:59:18 <Avatar> but with PFS, that skill focus should clearly go to perception
00:59:42 <Spaceshot> maybe
00:59:43 <Avatar> I don't know how far I can take bluff
00:59:49 <Avatar> with a high enough skill
01:00:56 <Avatar> could always throw caution to the wind
01:01:09 <Avatar> I'm supposed to use intimidate instead
01:01:14 <Avatar> being all witchy
01:01:17 <Spaceshot> fly?
01:01:33 <Avatar> I don't know that fly needs to be particularly high
01:01:41 <Avatar> no pun intended
01:01:46 <Avatar> I'm a poet and I don't even know it
01:01:47 <Spaceshot> to do manuvers I think it does
01:02:02 <Avatar> the highest fly check is 20
01:02:15 <Avatar> unless there's winds
01:02:22 <Avatar> but I can never remember a time when there are
01:03:30 <Avatar> 25 is the highest, by the looks, but that only happens during a hurrican
01:03:31 <Avatar> hurricane*
01:03:46 <Avatar> the scenario I write will definitely have a hurricane going on
01:08:13 <Avatar> hmm one of the traits I can take for my faction gives me +3 to aid another instead of +2
01:08:25 <Avatar> maybe a whip is a good idea
01:10:30 <Avatar> there's a trait which gives you DR 3 vs swarms
01:11:51 <Avatar> pretty good traits list, albeit a bit outdated: http://gallery.rptools.net/d/59878-4/PFS+FEATS+_amp_+TRAITS+LIST+6b-2010_001.pdf
01:12:06 <Ballig> ha
01:13:05 <Avatar> Snickers is shadow lodge, so nothing there :(
01:13:30 <Avatar> looks like there's no other faction traits anywhere except the PFS guide
01:16:44 <Ballig> +3 on aid another isn't bad
01:16:47 <Ballig> I mean, for a trait
01:17:00 <Ballig> and I think there are faction traits in faction-specific books arne't there
01:19:01 <Avatar> osirion doesn't have any traits at all
01:19:09 <Ballig> but it clearly does
01:19:18 <Ballig> because osirion is the one that has a trait for perception as a class skill
01:19:23 <Avatar> yeah, in the PFS guide
01:19:28 <Avatar> I mean the book
01:19:36 <Avatar> the thing is those books relate to the countries
01:19:38 <Avatar> not the factions
01:19:52 <Ballig> generally
01:20:04 <Avatar> there are regional traits in them
01:25:51 <Avatar> 3 skill points seems pretty expensive to be able to use a whip
01:26:29 <Spaceshot> how?
01:26:37 <Spaceshot> and it turns into 6 at level 10
01:26:41 <Spaceshot> but that's besides the point
01:26:48 <Avatar> what
01:27:11 <Spaceshot> skill focus gets to +6 if the skill it's focusing has 10ranks or more
01:27:24 <Ballig> what's that got to do with using a whip
01:27:37 <Ballig> Avatar: have you checked out the witch-specific feats before you go using it on something like skill focus
01:27:50 <Spaceshot> half-elf gets it free
01:27:52 <Avatar> it's a racial trait
01:27:55 <Spaceshot> that's what he's talking about
01:27:59 <Ballig> then what's it got to do with whip
01:28:00 <Avatar> I'd never take skill focus as a feat
01:28:10 <Spaceshot> and if he wishes to change it with martial/exotic weapon prof
01:28:12 <Avatar> whip proficiency is an alternate racial trait
01:28:25 <Ballig> is it whip proficiency or is it bringing whip down to martial weapon
01:28:27 <Avatar> (exotic/martial proficiency)
01:28:33 <Spaceshot> prof
01:28:34 <Avatar> it's the actual proficiency
01:28:41 <Spaceshot> yep
01:29:14 <Spaceshot> Ballig: if a weapon counts as martial for using it two-handed, but is normally exotic, do I need both exotic weapon prof and martial weapon prof in the weapon to use it either way or just exotic?
01:29:34 <Avatar> what weapon does that
01:29:39 <Spaceshot> Katana
01:29:45 <Ballig> as in, you're someone without martial weapon proficiency?
01:29:46 <Spaceshot> and bastard sword (I think)
01:30:00 <Ballig> and you want to take exotic weapon proficiency (bastard sword) and still be able to use it both ways?
01:30:04 <Spaceshot> yep
01:30:18 <Spaceshot> probably katana though
01:30:20 <Ballig> I imagine the exotic weapon prof would supercede martial weapon prof
01:30:49 <Spaceshot> yay, first thing that I wanted to do with the character that worked XD
01:30:54 <Spaceshot> this is the alchemist monstrosity
01:31:27 <Ballig> I'll be going feral mutagen with my alchemist
01:31:30 <Ballig> and using enlarge person a lot
01:31:36 <Spaceshot> I know
01:31:44 <Ballig> natural 10ft reach + three attacks + combat reflexes + stand still
01:31:47 <Avatar> the rule is pretty specific
01:31:48 <Spaceshot> and I'll be going 'Why won't you let this work?"
01:31:51 <Avatar> two handed katana is a martial weapon
01:32:03 <Avatar> if you try to use it one handed, you take a -4 penalty without exotic
01:32:10 <Ballig> yeah
01:32:14 <Spaceshot> what if I have exotic
01:32:14 <Ballig> he's saying if he has exotic, but not martial
01:32:17 <Ballig> can he use it in two-hands
01:32:18 <Spaceshot> do I need the martial for 2handed
01:32:22 <Avatar> oh
01:32:52 <Avatar> that's a tricky question isn't it
01:33:02 <Ballig> it is, but I think exotic weapon proficiency would trump it
01:33:16 <Avatar> yeah I'd say that too but I couldn't say it for sure
01:33:21 <Ballig> you're training in that weapon specifically, it'd be a bit stupid to say you weren't training how to use it in two hands
01:33:30 <Avatar> badly worded I guess
01:33:31 <Ballig> but I'm not sure of it being written anywhere specifically
01:33:37 <Avatar> fighter-thinking in imnd
01:33:39 <Avatar> mind*
01:35:47 <Spaceshot> also, the people on the forums (not designers or referencing rules) suggest that TWF feat can't be replaced by MWF feat because once a feat is taken it doesn't get replaced
01:36:45 <Avatar> MWF is moot anyway isn't it
01:37:06 <Spaceshot> yes for PFS
01:37:30 <Spaceshot> but mekkis still thinks that since MWF feat is used by more than 2 armed people
01:37:41 <Spaceshot> I'd replace TWF feat with it once I get my first arm
01:37:46 <Spaceshot> and then I'd be illegal
01:38:42 <Ballig> it's because the feat is written in a way that makes it sound like you automatically exchange it
01:38:58 <Spaceshot> which doesn't happen
01:39:42 <Spaceshot> would you 2 agree?
01:40:08 <Ballig> I don't think you can just say that it doesn't happen
01:40:49 <Ballig> Special: This feat replaces the Two-Weapon Fighting
01:40:50 <Ballig> feat for creatures with more than two arms.
01:40:54 <Ballig> I mean, sure sounds like that's a special rule :p
01:40:59 <Ballig> specifically designed to replace the feat
01:41:00 <Spaceshot> sure it does
01:41:09 <Spaceshot> but it's in the bestiary
01:41:16 <Spaceshot> which players don't go to for feats
01:41:33 <Ballig> okay
01:41:33 <Spaceshot> and which isn't allowed to get feats, or anything from for PCs unless another source allows for PFS
01:41:44 <Ballig> I don't agree with you but I'm not arguing it
01:42:38 <Spaceshot> I know, we've done it before
01:42:46 <Spaceshot> damn, almost had 2/3
01:42:50 <Avatar> what do you guys think of the of the fortune hex
01:42:58 <Ballig> what does it do
01:42:58 <Avatar> good luck for 1 round
01:43:01 <Avatar> reroll
01:43:05 <Ballig> what is good luck
01:43:06 <Avatar> any attack, skill check, ability check, whatever
01:43:06 <Ballig> define reroll
01:43:16 <Ballig> is it always one round
01:43:20 <Avatar> take the better of the two results
01:43:23 <Avatar> yeah always one round
01:43:28 <Avatar> per party member, per day
01:43:34 <Avatar> that seems pretty good doesn't it
01:43:41 <Avatar> it upgrades to a 2 round duration at 8th level
01:43:46 <Ballig> does it require an action to use it
01:43:52 <Avatar> yeah I think they all do
01:44:03 <Ballig> so in the middle of combat you have to use a standard action to activate it?
01:44:07 <Avatar> standard action that doesn't provoke
01:44:12 <Ballig> range?
01:44:18 <Avatar> 30ft
01:44:27 <Ballig> single-target?
01:44:30 <Avatar> yeah
01:44:34 <Ballig> alternatives?
01:44:45 <Avatar> flight, but I can take that later
01:44:51 <Avatar> that doesn't give me actual flight until 5th level
01:44:56 <Avatar> it gives me feather fall
01:45:02 <Avatar> immediate feather fall though
01:45:15 <Avatar> misfortune is the opposite of fortune, for a bad guy
01:45:22 <Avatar> will save negates
01:45:34 <Ballig> what's the save based on?
01:46:00 <Avatar> 10 + .5 witch level + int
01:46:10 <Avatar> so 15 at level 1
01:46:19 <Ballig> not terrible
01:46:20 <Avatar> or 14?
01:46:26 <Ballig> it's usually minimum 1 on the level
01:46:38 <Avatar> there's a healing hex
01:46:45 <Avatar> which is cure light wounds once per day per party member
01:46:55 <Avatar> turns into cure moderate at 5th level
01:47:42 <Avatar> evil eye hex is a -2 modifier to a bad guy's AC, ability checks, attack roll, saving throw or skill check that lasts 7 rounds
01:47:46 <Avatar> will save negates
01:47:52 <Ballig> what's the range on the CLW
01:47:55 <Avatar> sorry, will save reduces that to 1 round
01:48:01 <Spaceshot> can't you get improved hex or something as a feat
01:48:03 <Avatar> touch
01:48:09 <Ballig> he can get extra hex
01:48:20 <Ballig> range on evil eye?
01:48:34 <Ballig> what's the 7 rounds based on?
01:48:40 <Avatar> 30ft within sight
01:48:49 <Ballig> is it /or/ or /and/?
01:49:09 <Avatar> or
01:49:16 <Avatar> and would be brilliant
01:49:20 <Ballig> ha
01:49:35 <Avatar> there's a sleep hex, will negates
01:49:44 <Ballig> that could be pretty useful
01:49:44 <Avatar> affects a creature of any HD
01:49:51 <Ballig> how many rounds
01:49:53 <Ballig> range, etc
01:49:55 <Avatar> witch's level rounds
01:50:00 <Avatar> 30ft range
01:50:07 <Ballig> standard action?
01:50:10 <Avatar> the effect ends immediately upon being attacked
01:50:13 <Avatar> yeah
01:50:20 <Ballig> that's pretty good
01:50:25 <Spaceshot> well avatar, you could go human and take 2 extra hex feats
01:50:28 <Ballig> biggest problem with sleep spell is that it's a round to cast
01:50:31 <Spaceshot> and be the hex master :P
01:50:38 <Avatar> if they save, it can't be done again on that target for 24 hours
01:50:50 <Avatar> Spaceshot: it's not a feat, it's a hex
01:50:55 <Spaceshot> ...
01:51:00 <Ballig> there's an "extra hex" feat
01:51:01 <Avatar> oh, 2 extra hexes
01:51:04 <Spaceshot> yea
01:51:05 <Spaceshot> XD
01:51:06 <Ballig> he's saying you could go human and use two feats on extra hexes
01:51:10 <Spaceshot> get healing
01:51:17 <Spaceshot> sleep and evil eye
01:51:18 <Ballig> I say go sleep hex
01:51:19 <Avatar> I almost did take healing, except uh
01:51:24 <Avatar> CLW wands sort of make it useless
01:51:30 <Ballig> yeah
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01:51:39 <Ballig> sleep>evil eye>flight
01:51:42 <Avatar> I can't take two, I'm taking the charm hex
01:51:53 <Avatar> it's like an automatic diplomacy success for a few rounds
01:51:59 <Ballig> ha
01:52:15 <Avatar> which gets better at 8th level
01:52:18 <Avatar> improves 2 steps
01:52:28 <Ballig> pretty useful
01:52:41 <Ballig> anyway going to bed
01:52:48 <Avatar> gg
01:53:00 <Avatar> I can't bring myself to take flight now
01:53:06 <Avatar> I mean feather fall is a bit shit
01:53:18 <Avatar> it actually gives a +4 swim bonus as well
01:53:42 <Avatar> at 3rd level it gives levitate once per day, but I can take the hex at 3rd level if I'm going for that
01:53:49 <Avatar> and if I don't have it by 5th level, I'll definitely take it then
01:53:57 <Avatar> fly at will, sing it to me
01:54:13 <Avatar> actually I get a new hex at 2nd and 4th and so on
01:54:22 <Spaceshot> for a number of mins per day equal to your witch levels
01:54:28 <Spaceshot> taken in 1min incrimints
01:54:31 <Avatar> yeah
01:54:37 <Avatar> that's still good
01:54:46 <Avatar> encounters don't usually last 1 minute
01:54:49 <Spaceshot> so wish alchemist had hexes
01:54:53 <Spaceshot> because hexes are useful
01:54:54 <Avatar> at 5th level, that's a whole scenario
01:55:04 <Avatar> really
01:55:07 <Avatar> so wish witches had bombs
01:55:14 <Avatar> then they could be an uber class !
01:55:16 <Spaceshot> bombs are overrated
01:55:35 <Avatar> I beg to differ, if they're anything like guns
01:55:43 <Spaceshot> they're splash weapons
01:55:53 <Spaceshot> with a slight bonus for being alchemists
01:55:56 <Avatar> pretty sure they are more than that
01:55:59 <Spaceshot> you can't make them magical
01:56:14 <Spaceshot> no, at base they are just splash weapons
01:56:20 <Avatar> bombs that go up in damage every couple of levels
01:56:33 <Avatar> guns don't even do that
01:56:34 <Spaceshot> I think so
01:56:38 <Spaceshot> guns can be magical
01:57:06 <Avatar> yeah giving like 1 point of damage for every stupid amount of gold you spend o them
01:57:15 <Avatar> vs +1d6 damage every two levels
01:57:35 <Avatar> you're very hard pressed to do that with guns without a power build
01:58:43 <Spaceshot> can you use guns more than 4-6 times at level 1 without wasting feats?
01:58:48 <Spaceshot> per day?
01:59:35 <Avatar> I don't think the sleep hex is that good at low levels
01:59:43 <Avatar> the bad guys fall asleep for a single round
01:59:49 <Avatar> if they fail their save
02:00:11 <Avatar> true, re 4-6 times
02:00:37 <Spaceshot> and the issue with bombs, they are a different style to the mutagen
02:00:44 <Spaceshot> which is weird for the one class
02:01:40 <Spaceshot> and the discoveries are either bomb, mutagen, or something weird that doesn't really do anything
02:01:49 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=341
02:03:18 <Avatar> hmm, 7hp
02:03:29 <Spaceshot> you'll live
02:03:43 <Avatar> possibly not :P
02:04:05 <Avatar> maybe I should make con 14 and cha 12
02:04:38 <Spaceshot> heh
02:04:44 <Spaceshot> I'm not sure what curse I should take
02:04:53 <Spaceshot> I want to take deaf, but that hosts a whole bucket load of issues
02:05:01 <Avatar> take it
02:06:18 <Spaceshot> I do get free silent spell for everything
02:06:45 <Spaceshot> do animal companions have telepathy with their master?
02:07:40 <Avatar> don't think so
02:07:52 <Avatar> eidolons have link with summoners
02:07:58 <Avatar> unless druids have something similar
02:08:22 tashes is now known as tasheZzz
02:08:52 <Avatar> tasheZzzzzzzZZz
02:09:35 <Spaceshot> deaf oracle here I come
02:17:57 <Avatar> it'd be good if there was a trait that reduced arcane spell failure
02:18:09 <Avatar> not sure why there's not
02:18:23 <Spaceshot> because it'd be OP
02:18:36 <Spaceshot> since arcane spell failure is the only thing making fighters not shit
02:21:15 <Avatar> don't think that's true
02:21:22 <Avatar> on both counts
02:21:30 <Avatar> a trait that reduces it by 5% wouldn't be OP at all
02:21:46 <Spaceshot> it stacks
02:23:39 <Avatar> stacks with what
02:24:08 <Spaceshot> the feat
02:24:12 <Spaceshot> feat/s
02:24:20 <Avatar> arcane armour prof?
02:24:23 <Spaceshot> yar
02:24:26 <Avatar> that's a fair amount of investment there
02:24:32 <Avatar> arcane armour is a 10% savings isn't it
02:24:39 <Spaceshot> 10 then 20 I think
02:24:40 <Avatar> and requires light armour prof
02:24:53 <Spaceshot> yep
02:25:08 <Spaceshot> just dip in a class that has both
02:25:15 <Spaceshot> which also gives you what you want
02:25:19 <Avatar> no class has both
02:25:42 <Avatar> if you're going to invest that much in AC, that's still not OP
02:25:44 <Spaceshot> no I mean both light and medium prof
02:26:03 <Avatar> even considering a level dip, which is a huge investment
02:26:25 <Spaceshot> it's 2 feats and a dip for what, +8 or more possible AC
02:26:46 <Avatar> that'd be by 8th level man
02:26:50 <Spaceshot> so?
02:27:04 <Avatar> by 8th level that won't be anywhere near as significant as you seem to think
02:27:05 <Spaceshot> you can get +5 or so by level 4
02:27:20 <Avatar> you cant' take mastery at level 4
02:27:36 <Spaceshot> training
02:27:57 <Spaceshot> mithril chainshirt +1 is 15% I think
02:28:36 <Avatar> mithral is a 10% discount isn't it
02:28:45 <Spaceshot> could even go mithral scale mail
02:28:49 <Avatar> so it'd be a mithral chain shirt
02:28:54 <Spaceshot> with the +5% from the trait
02:29:01 <Avatar> yeah, to scale mail with a trait
02:29:07 <Avatar> and mastery
02:29:08 <Spaceshot> or mithril breastplate :P
02:29:20 <Avatar> that's 8th level still with scale mail
02:29:25 <Spaceshot> nope
02:29:35 <Avatar> you'd need mastery
02:29:37 <Spaceshot> mithril reduces the armour level down a level
02:29:43 <Spaceshot> so medium becomes light
02:29:50 <Avatar> you might be right
02:29:52 <Spaceshot> and 25 becomes 15, and 10+5 is 15
02:29:55 <Spaceshot> I know my mithril
02:29:56 <Spaceshot> XD
02:30:22 <Avatar> you wouldn't want to upgrade your mithral chain shirt to a mithral breastplate
02:30:28 <Avatar> bye bye $$
02:30:47 <Spaceshot> what? you'd go for a mithral breastplate to start with
02:31:03 <Spaceshot> since you can easily wear it at level 4 without any spell failure
02:31:13 <Spaceshot> with the +5% trait
02:31:45 <Spaceshot> you can even do it at level 3 without diping and just taking a feat for the light armour
02:31:51 <Spaceshot> if you don't care about mastery
02:32:11 <Avatar> this is all still considering investing in armour and nothing else
02:32:20 <S711> Level 27 freemason, divided by two.
02:32:44 <Spaceshot> freemasons run the country, freemasons run the country
02:33:17 <S711> I don't know any freemasons personally.
02:33:23 <S711> I think.
02:33:33 <Spaceshot> I don't really know what a freemason is
02:33:34 <Spaceshot> XD
02:33:36 <Spaceshot> so I might
02:33:58 <Avatar> you probably know someone who is a freemason who hasn't told you
02:34:04 <S711> I mainly know poor nobodys and a few musicians.
02:34:16 <S711> I think.
02:34:19 <Spaceshot> again, I don't really know what freemasonry is
02:34:27 <Avatar> we heard you the first time
02:34:34 <S711> Depends on one's definition of "knowing someone".
02:34:45 <Spaceshot> heh
02:35:00 <Spaceshot> anywho, hopefully I work on Ava the deaf oracle more tomorrow
02:35:09 <Spaceshot> because I might not have free time to work on her till late
02:35:16 <Avatar> I think I just pulled a Nightmare by accident
02:35:26 <Spaceshot> have an appointment at 2 in the city then straight to IRL RPGing
02:35:27 <Spaceshot> and how?
02:35:38 <Avatar> I've geared my character to put everything towards bluff
02:35:42 <Avatar> I have +10 at level 1
02:35:42 <Spaceshot> haha
02:35:47 <Spaceshot> are you a synthesist?
02:35:51 <Avatar> probably !
02:36:04 <Avatar> cha isn't my strong stat though
02:36:11 <Avatar> and that'll probably drop if I decide I need more hp
02:36:23 <Spaceshot> do you have a prestige that allows you to use bluff as your day job?
02:36:32 <Avatar> I planned on getting one actually
02:36:37 <Avatar> the same one, even
02:36:39 <Spaceshot> hey I could get +12bluff/diplomacy/intimidate if I wanted to at level 1
02:36:50 <Avatar> it's not that hard
02:37:07 <Spaceshot> skill focus, trained, rank, +5 cha (cha is main stat for oracle)
02:37:10 <Spaceshot> that's 12
02:37:16 <Spaceshot> could also get another 2 from trait to hit 14
02:37:30 <Spaceshot> and another 2 from non skill focus feat
02:37:32 <Spaceshot> to hit 16
02:37:50 <Avatar> that's very hardcore
02:37:53 <Spaceshot> guidance hits it to 17 (though can't use that on dayjob)
02:37:58 <Avatar> with skill focus and another feat
02:38:01 <Avatar> just for the skill
02:38:08 <Spaceshot> skill focus is free for half-elf
02:38:28 <Avatar> yeah but of all the feats that you could buy, you're spending your 1st level feat on a skill feat
02:38:38 <Spaceshot> I think I might even be able to get a revelation that could help in either dip or bluff
02:38:54 <Spaceshot> I'm just saying it's doable
02:39:02 <Spaceshot> then add +8 to that for synthesist
02:39:04 <Spaceshot> XD
02:39:20 <Spaceshot> 25 with guidance :P
02:39:28 <Spaceshot> anywho, bed time
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02:52:49 <Avatar> it's really quite a leap to make an ability 16 costing 10 points or 18 costing 17 points
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08:00:35 <Ballig> ha
08:00:46 <Blord> yo
08:01:03 <Ballig> sup
08:01:25 <Blord> so when is this starting?
08:01:48 <Ballig> in an hour I think
13:20:29 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 10-11am (Avatar/Brunius, new game) / Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
13:20:29 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Jan 18 21:44:05 2012
13:20:39 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+9 cleave attack 1
13:20:40 <diebot> Hitomi, cleave attack 1: [1d20=10] 19
13:20:45 <Avatar> hit
13:20:46 <Avatar> roll damage
13:20:50 <Hitomi> !throw 1d10+6 dmg
13:20:51 <diebot> Hitomi, dmg: [1d10=3] 9
13:21:00 <Avatar> he's somewhat wounded
13:21:16 <Mort-> now what do they dos!
13:21:35 <Avatar> it's Mort's turn
13:21:51 <Mort-> E10 colour spray
13:22:06 <Mort-> yep
13:22:09 <Mort-> catch everyone
13:22:17 <Mort-> so
13:22:18 <Tasiv> noice
13:22:36 <Mort-> have funnnsss...enjoy your fireworks!
13:22:50 <Mort-> goggs a little nicked
13:22:53 <Mort-> 15
13:22:55 <Mort-> eh wait
13:22:57 <Mort-> 16npw?
13:22:59 <Mort-> since I leved up?
13:23:06 <Mort-> nah
13:23:08 <Mort-> so 15
13:23:09 <Mort-> dc is 15
13:23:19 <Mort-> dc was 15 b4 I leelved
13:23:22 <Gogg> I'm still @ full hp
13:23:22 <Mort-> after is still 15?
13:23:24 <Mort-> no
13:23:25 <Mort-> he was -2
13:23:30 <Mort-> after the little swarm
13:23:30 <Mort-> k
13:23:32 <Mort-> ah okay
13:23:36 <Mort-> blast it then 15
13:23:43 <Mort-> oh oh
13:23:44 <Mort-> lol
13:23:45 <Mort-> wrong person
13:23:47 <Mort-> and te swarm
13:23:54 <Avatar> #3 drops, unconscious
13:23:58 <Avatar> R and 2 are unaffected
13:24:02 <Mort-> oh fk
13:24:02 <Mort-> :D
13:24:03 <Mort-> heheh
13:24:08 <Mort-> when color srays odnt work too well
13:24:08 <Tasiv> it's cool
13:24:10 <Mort-> BTW KEEP ONE ALIVE
13:24:13 <Mort-> WE NEED THEM FOR QUESTIONING
13:24:15 <Avatar> it's Tasiv's turn
13:24:18 <Tasiv> ranged attack on R
13:24:19 <Mort-> R is wounded
13:24:20 <Mort-> fk him?
13:24:22 <Avatar> you can't say that out of character mort
13:24:28 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+8 ranged
13:24:28 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged: [1d20=14] 22
13:24:31 <Mort-> "Keep one alive, we need one for questioning"
13:24:33 <Mort-> btw how about the - 4?
13:24:35 <Avatar> hit
13:24:35 <Mort-> on melee?
13:24:36 <Avatar> roll damage
13:24:44 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+6 dmg
13:24:45 <diebot> Tasiv, dmg: [1d8=8] 14
13:24:50 <Mort-> hes dead..
13:24:52 <Mort-> deadder then a doddo
13:24:54 <Avatar> he starts dying
13:25:00 <Tasiv> end turn
13:25:32 <Mort-> what tactics
13:25:38 <Mort-> u run into a room u defintiely get ambushed
13:25:47 <Mort-> if you get fked over thats too bad as well
13:25:47 <Avatar> #2 attacks Mort
13:25:50 <Mort-> owww
13:25:51 <Mort-> !
13:26:00 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+5
13:26:00 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+5: [1d20=18] 23
13:26:02 <Mort-> I TOLD You about mage armor
13:26:03 <Mort-> okay hits a hit
13:26:04 <Mort-> defintiely
13:26:13 <Avatar> !throw 2d4+2
13:26:13 <diebot> Avatar, 2d4+2: [2d4=3,2] 7
13:26:15 <Mort-> ouch
13:26:16 <Avatar> dealing 7 damage
13:26:27 <Mort-> 6/14
13:26:29 <Mort-> 6/13
13:26:33 <Avatar> it's Bobbob's turn
13:26:34 <Mort-> sorry hp left
13:26:45 <Mort-> R is dying..
13:26:48 <Mort-> 3 is out
13:26:49 <Mort-> only 2 left
13:26:58 <Mort-> iD say guts
13:26:59 <Tasiv> 2 is shitting his pants
13:27:03 <Mort-> its probably better..
13:27:05 <Bobbob> I move to F11
13:27:07 <Bobbob> and attack with my lance
13:27:10 <Bobbob> "Mort, get behind me!"
13:27:18 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+10 attack
13:27:18 <diebot> Bobbob, attack: [1d20=4] 14
13:27:20 <Mort-> "As soon as I can"
13:27:22 <Avatar> miss
13:27:24 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
13:27:39 <Gogg> move in front of 2
13:27:49 <Avatar> roll to hit
13:27:52 <Gogg> power attack
13:28:02 <Gogg> !throw 1d20+7 greatsword
13:28:03 <diebot> Gogg, greatsword: [1d20=10] 17
13:28:09 <Tasiv> close...
13:28:12 <Avatar> hit, roll damage
13:28:29 <Gogg> !throw 2d6+9 kill
13:28:30 <diebot> Gogg, kill: [2d6=1,5] 15
13:28:40 <Avatar> he drops
13:28:42 <Avatar> dead
13:28:42 <Mort-> k
13:28:45 <Mort-> anyone has heals?
13:28:48 <Mort-> :D
13:28:52 <Mort-> question him
13:28:56 <Mort-> and lewt him
13:28:58 <Mort-> as well
13:28:58 <Bobbob> we'll take his armour and wepaons
13:28:58 <Bobbob> and loot him
13:29:03 <Mort-> loot all the armor
13:29:10 <Mort-> tie first
13:29:11 <Bobbob> we'll take his weapons first, then
13:29:12 <Mort-> then take his armor?
13:29:23 <Mort-> and I have rope
13:29:33 <Mort-> "I have rope, 50 ft of silk rope, anyone?"
13:29:37 <Mort-> "Heal appreciated too"
13:29:50 <Avatar> he wakes up
13:29:51 <Tasiv> "i have your wand mort?"
13:29:52 <Hitomi> "never come back here"
13:29:54 <Bobbob> "You're not going to extort the temple again."
13:29:55 <Mort-> yes
13:29:59 <Mort-> so go and heal me htanks
13:30:05 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+1 clw on mort
13:30:06 <diebot> Tasiv, clw on mort: [1d8=2] 3
13:30:09 <Tasiv> again?
13:30:10 <Mort-> 9/13
13:30:11 <Mort-> yes
13:30:12 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+1 clw on mort
13:30:12 <diebot> Tasiv, clw on mort: [1d8=2] 3
13:30:19 <Mort-> 2 charges on my wand used
13:30:23 <Mort-> 12/13
13:30:24 <Mort-> Im fine iwht it
13:30:29 <Avatar> as he wakes up, the cronie considers his options, and runs
13:30:35 <Mort-> avatar tick ot pff
13:30:42 <Bobbob> what do we get on them
13:30:42 <Tasiv> and dies...
13:30:46 <Avatar> he trips over the caltrops on his way out
13:30:50 <Gogg> pick my caltrops again
13:30:54 <Avatar> into the water
13:30:58 <Avatar> and that's the last of him you see
13:31:00 <Mort-> hahaha
13:31:02 <Tasiv> and swallows a mouthful of that water
13:31:02 <Mort-> what an ub :D
13:31:12 <Tasiv> that's gold
13:31:16 <Avatar> "Exemplary teamwork!"
13:31:19 <Tasiv> :D
13:31:23 <Avatar> the priest is clearly impressed
13:31:25 <Bobbob> "We're pretty awesome."
13:31:27 <Gogg> victory music?
13:31:28 * Mort- high fives the entire party
13:31:30 <Tasiv> "aye"
13:31:33 <Bobbob> "They shouldn't bother you again."
13:31:49 <Gogg> "let's do the dance of joy!"
13:31:50 <Bobbob> "So any help you can give us on our mission would be appreciated."
13:32:26 <Gogg> can we ask them how long the oil of blessedness lasts?
13:32:31 <Avatar> the bard had +1 studded leather
13:32:33 <Bobbob> it lasts 1 minute
13:32:37 <Avatar> a masterwork whip
13:32:41 <Mort-> its probably over by the itme we finish yaking
13:32:42 <Avatar> a pouch with some gp
13:32:44 <Mort-> pick it all up
13:32:49 <Mort-> and the gp too.. can we keep that?
13:32:57 <Mort-> "Can we keep the gps? :P"
13:33:19 <Avatar> 3 acid flasks
13:33:27 <Mort-> woooow
13:33:29 <Mort-> cool stuffs
13:33:41 <Avatar> sorry, not +1 studded leather, +1 mithral chain shirt
13:33:51 <Avatar> some spiked chains
13:34:11 <Avatar> 4 potions CLW
13:34:15 <Bobbob> I won't take one
13:34:20 <Hitomi> me takey one
13:34:20 <Bobbob> you other four can have one each
13:34:34 <Gogg> use it instead of the wands
13:34:42 <Mort-> Ill take oneo
13:34:49 <Gogg> ah no
13:34:53 <Gogg> I'll keep one
13:35:55 <Avatar> "A deal's a deal. You protected my sanctuary and I'll tell you what you want to know."
13:36:07 <Bobbob> "Great."
13:36:12 <Bobbob> "So this guy, what's his story?"
13:36:14 <Bobbob> "And what attacked him?"
13:36:39 <Mort-> as I said. you run into a bunch of ambushers. you can expect to get fked
13:37:06 <Mort-> us ambushing them? :P
13:37:15 <Tasiv> "yes please priest"
13:37:16 <Mort-> but god they hit hard
13:37:35 <Avatar> "I only know where he dwelt - not what his story is."
13:38:17 <Mort-> "where did he dwell?"
13:38:17 <Avatar> "Travel east from here and take the next branch south. Look for a mossy overgrowth door marked 'Skytower' along the south wall."
13:38:50 <Bobbob> "Have you seen any creatures from another plane around?"
13:38:54 <Bobbob> "Has anyone else been attacked?"
13:38:57 <Gogg> "have you heard of bad monsters running around?"
13:40:03 <Mort-> gogg isnt andoran
13:40:07 <Mort-> he gave us grief the last mission
13:40:23 <Mort-> yeah him and his lady :P
13:40:38 <Tasiv> aye
13:40:40 <Avatar> "I've only seen the Steel Wyverns."
13:40:47 <Bobbob> "Okay."
13:40:53 <Bobbob> "Thanks for the information, we might be back if we need to know more."
13:40:57 <Bobbob> I follow his directions
13:40:58 <Tasiv> "so do you need help securing this place?"
13:41:23 <Tasiv> "or are you right to board this up yourself?"
13:41:56 <Mort-> "I need a nice rest heh"
13:41:56 <Mort-> lol
13:41:58 <Tasiv> limping back
13:42:02 <Mort-> and fireworks!
13:42:10 <Mort-> but god, nice saves..
13:42:21 <Tasiv> 1 outta three is ok
13:42:32 <Avatar> "We'll be fine for now. You're always welcome here."
13:42:33 <Mort-> if they were wearing plate you wouldnt see me around
13:42:34 <Mort-> hahaha
13:42:37 <Mort-> Id RUUUUUNNNZZZ
13:42:45 <Tasiv> "cheers"
13:42:50 <Tasiv> "let's go"
13:43:00 <Mort-> dming alot..
13:43:01 <Mort-> hehhee
13:43:19 <Tasiv> thelen needs an xp bot to adventure for him
13:43:20 <Mort-> "Can we stop for a break? "
13:43:27 <Mort-> "as in...hehe rest..."
13:43:54 <Mort-> oh fk
13:43:56 <Mort-> k
13:43:59 <Mort-> I have none left :)
13:44:02 <Tasiv> "just stay outta melee"
13:44:04 <Mort-> haha
13:44:04 <Mort-> k
13:44:05 <Mort-> I will
13:44:17 <Gogg> use your utility belt. :)
13:44:19 <Mort-> I have it too
13:44:20 <Mort-> acutally
13:44:22 <Mort-> heheh
13:44:28 <Mort-> 1d3
13:44:32 <Mort-> I also have ray of frost
13:44:34 <Mort-> 1d3..
13:44:53 <Mort-> yes
13:44:57 <Gogg> get weapon focus ray
13:45:01 <Mort-> I loaded all that stuff haha
13:45:04 <Mort-> is there such a thing?
13:45:14 <Mort-> but I need the shoot into melee feats first
13:45:15 <Mort-> I think?
13:45:21 <Mort-> as in befoer I consider weaponfocus ray
13:45:34 <Mort-> yes else I take -4 everytime I shoot into melee
13:45:40 <Mort-> now I know why people dont cast mage armor early...
13:45:42 <Mort-> what a...
13:45:45 <Gogg> weapon focus is usabe anytime you use ray of frost
13:45:45 * Mort- winces
13:45:53 <Mort-> I know, but the shoot into melee 2 feats
13:45:55 <Mort-> may be better
13:46:02 <Mort-> becuase it affects all ranged touched spells
13:46:03 <Bobbob> my wizard took point blank shot
13:46:07 <Mort-> and later Ill be using ranged touch alot
13:46:08 <Mort-> ya
13:46:09 <Mort-> thats the point
13:46:11 <Mort-> I may do it later
13:46:12 <Mort-> too
13:46:13 <Bobbob> I'm not sure if I'm going to regret it
13:46:17 <Bobbob> I probably will
13:46:20 <Mort-> perhaps
13:46:30 <Bobbob> well, I say he's "taken" it
13:46:32 <Mort-> no rest, no color spray
13:46:32 <Mort-> hehe
13:46:34 <Bobbob> he hasn't been played since levelling
13:46:36 <Bobbob> so I could undo it
13:46:43 <Mort-> no mage armor..either..
13:46:45 <Mort-> sigh
13:47:00 <Mort-> ouch
13:47:15 <Mort-> I thought usually tasiv is behind me..
13:47:17 <Mort-> though :P
13:47:36 <Mort-> that fast..?
13:47:46 <Mort-> hey I have 12/13 hp :P
13:47:48 <Mort-> ouch
13:48:04 <Avatar> The Almsman’s directions lead to a heavy wooden door. A sign
13:48:04 <Avatar> on the door is partially obscured by grime and moss, and the
13:48:05 <Avatar> word “Skytower” is still barely legible.
13:48:07 <Mort-> yeah first, we get bitten, if we get bitten we get bitten
13:48:11 <Hitomi> hungry crocks
13:48:19 <Hitomi> swallow little gobbies whole
13:48:20 <Avatar> the door is a sturdy wooden door
13:48:21 <Mort-> I hate my ac..
13:48:27 <Mort-> okay what about the croc. its possible
13:48:36 <Mort-> okay ahah
13:48:38 <Tasiv> i'll have a crocodile sandwich and make it snappy (drumroll)
13:48:47 <Mort-> I dislike anything that bites
13:48:50 <Hitomi> sammich
13:48:52 <Bobbob> "Stand back."
13:48:54 <Mort-> though acutally
13:48:56 <Bobbob> I wait until people are standing back a few feet
13:48:58 <Mort-> I Like eating crocodiles..
13:48:59 <Bobbob> and I try to open the door
13:48:59 <Hitomi> "you shallnot pass!"
13:49:00 <Bobbob> (if it has a handle)
13:49:11 <Gogg> I still have those skellie dino bite marks
13:49:15 <Mort-> door might be trapped
13:49:19 <Mort-> hes probably right
13:49:26 <Mort-> I TOLD You to use clw on them
13:49:29 <Gogg> now I know why he got the part in Night in the Museum
13:49:29 <Bobbob> I walk in
13:49:33 <Avatar> This room was once the basement of a building above, but the
13:49:34 <Avatar> s t air s in the f ar c orner ar e now choke d with charr e d r ubble and
13:49:34 <Avatar> seem to lead to a new stone foundation of the new building
13:49:34 <Avatar> above. Odd furniture and knick-knacks of all description fill
13:49:34 <Avatar> the remaining space, and strange winged effigies made of
13:49:34 <Avatar> wood and broken pottery are arrayed in a bizarre diorama.
13:49:34 <Avatar> The focal point of this display is a pair of chairs standing
13:49:34 <Avatar> on different-sized piles of old crates like thrones on a dais.
13:49:34 <Avatar> A charred and shriveled corpse dressed in rotting and burnt
13:49:34 <Avatar> finery and wearing a tin crown is propped up in one of the
13:49:34 <Avatar> chairs while the other, lower chair, sits vacant.
13:50:03 <Tasiv> "ugh"
13:50:18 <Mort-> "me thinks that this place stinks"
13:50:19 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+2 undead knowledge?
13:50:20 <diebot> Tasiv, undead knowledge?: [1d20=18] 20
13:50:37 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+8 religion
13:50:38 <diebot> Mort-, religion: [1d20=8] 16
13:50:41 <Mort-> see anything?
13:51:05 <Bobbob> @see
13:51:05 <diebot> Bobbob, Perception: [1d20=17] 20
13:51:13 <Mort-> @see
13:51:14 <diebot> Mort-, Perception: [1d20=20] 20
13:51:17 <Hitomi> @see
13:51:17 <diebot> Hitomi, perception: [1d20=3] 4
13:51:24 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 see
13:51:25 <diebot> Gogg, see: [1d20=6] 4
13:51:27 <Mort-> J2 for me
13:51:46 <Mort-> what are all those grey blocks
13:52:05 <Gogg> yeah, what are those?
13:52:09 <Tasiv> @see
13:52:09 <diebot> Tasiv, perception: [1d20=11] 18
13:52:20 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception @avatar
13:52:20 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+0 @avatar
13:52:21 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+3 perception @Avatar
13:52:30 <Hitomi> @throw 1d20+1 perc @Avatar
13:52:35 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+1 perc @Avatar
13:52:40 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+7 perception @avatar
13:53:00 <Hitomi> @see @Avatar
13:53:41 <Gogg> there's an invisible demon lurking about, says the metagamer
13:54:02 <Mort-> I think its a good time to cast mage armor from scoll :(
13:54:05 <Mort-> argggh
13:54:06 <Tasiv> "there's something back there"
13:54:12 <Tasiv> "i don't like the sounds of it"
13:54:19 <Mort-> k
13:54:20 <Bobbob> I hold up my hand for silence
13:54:24 <Bobbob> and I point to my ear, then to the west
13:54:34 <Mort-> hitomi with the dust
13:54:36 <Mort-> I have flour..
13:54:37 <Mort-> awesome.
13:55:18 <Bobbob> I ask for a torch from Mort
13:56:02 <Mort-> I give the torch to bobbob
13:56:10 <Tasiv> "gogg: is there something invisible in here for sure?"
13:56:28 <Mort-> "You want the flour?"
13:56:32 <Bobbob> I shake my head
13:56:34 <Mort-> "Demon cookies, just what we all love"
13:57:02 <Mort-> "Invisible critter cookies. We all love them"
13:57:27 <Bobbob> I want to move to H4
13:58:06 <Mort-> Im fine with my position
13:58:27 <Mort-> can I cast mage armor from scroll?
13:58:33 <Bobbob> you can
13:58:36 <Bobbob> it'll last an hour
13:58:39 <Mort-> at this point of time now?
13:58:49 <Hitomi> yea
13:58:57 <Mort-> flicked it
13:58:58 <Mort-> on
13:59:03 <Mort-> mage armor on, one scroll less
13:59:14 <Mort-> not any happier about this. but guess ..we can get moving
13:59:33 <Avatar> roll initiative
13:59:36 <Mort-> aha
13:59:37 <Mort-> @init
13:59:37 <diebot> Mort-, initiative: [1d20=2] 4
13:59:39 <Bobbob> @init
13:59:39 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+4: [1d20=15] 19
13:59:40 <Tasiv> @init
13:59:40 <Mort-> ooops :D
13:59:41 <diebot> Tasiv, init: [1d20=5] 9
14:00:30 <Hitomi> @init
14:00:30 <diebot> Hitomi, 1d20+2: [1d20=2] 4
14:00:46 <Gogg> @init
14:00:46 <diebot> Gogg, 1d20-1: [1d20=18] 17
14:00:49 <Hitomi> @init
14:00:49 <Mort-> @init
14:00:49 <diebot> Hitomi, 1d20+2: [1d20=17] 19
14:00:50 <diebot> Mort-, initiative: [1d20=20] 22
14:00:56 <Gogg> huzzah
14:00:59 <Gogg> 2nd
14:01:08 <Mort-> 17 ac..
14:01:11 * Mort- whimpers..
14:01:19 <Mort-> and 25 gp gone..aw
14:01:23 <Mort-> but better me alive then dead haha
14:01:25 <Avatar> it's Bobbob's turn
14:01:29 <Bobbob> I'll go 5 feet west and attack #1 with my lance
14:01:40 <Bobbob> "These look like demons, use cold iron!"
14:01:58 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+10 p-attack
14:01:58 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=2] 12
14:02:01 <Bobbob> and then go northeast
14:02:03 <Avatar> miss
14:02:23 <Bobbob> end turn
14:02:25 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
14:02:40 <Gogg> delay hehehe
14:02:46 <Avatar> it's Mort's turn
14:02:52 <Mort-> delay - I cant move anywhere can I?
14:03:00 <Mort-> Il lstay put
14:03:01 <Mort-> delay
14:03:05 <Avatar> it's Hitomi's turn
14:03:27 <Mort-> "Could someone push more into the room?"
14:03:30 <Avatar> it's Tasiv's turn
14:03:56 <Mort-> u sure haha tasiv
14:03:59 <Mort-> demons.. :D
14:07:17 <Gogg> -71, 6, 43 for the background offset?
14:07:20 <Avatar> yep
14:07:22 <Bobbob> yeah
14:07:27 <Mort-> my fingers itch for holy water..
14:07:32 <Mort-> but I really shouldnt be so enthusaistic
14:07:36 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+8 ranged cold iron on 1
14:07:37 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged cold iron on 1: [1d20=14] 22
14:07:42 <Avatar> roll damage
14:07:48 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+6 damage
14:07:48 <diebot> Tasiv, damage: [1d8=4] 10
14:08:14 <Tasiv> end turn
14:08:35 <Mort-> I do not want to undelay until more people move into the room
14:08:46 <Mort-> I have my hide to consider
14:09:00 <Bobbob> AOO
14:09:09 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+10 p-attack OO
14:09:10 <Gogg> how long does it take to put oil of blessedness on weapon?
14:09:10 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack OO: [1d20=4] 14
14:09:22 <Avatar> hit
14:09:23 <Avatar> roll damage
14:09:24 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10 damage
14:09:24 <diebot> Bobbob, damage: [1d6=1] 11
14:09:30 <Tasiv> NICE
14:09:33 <Tasiv> thank you sir
14:09:45 <Mort-> wats combat reflexes
14:09:52 <Mort-> ahw aht ahppend to 1?
14:09:56 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
14:09:56 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=12] 16
14:09:59 <Mort-> ow
14:10:01 <Avatar> tries to bite Tasiv
14:10:05 <Bobbob> Mort-: I just killed #1
14:10:07 <Avatar> missing
14:10:12 <Mort-> cool beans
14:10:15 <Mort-> 17 ac here so..
14:10:34 <Mort-> "Hitomi, gogg, one of you get your bums into the room"
14:10:48 <Mort-> wow thats a LOT of em
14:10:52 <Avatar> it's Mort's turn
14:10:57 <Mort-> cant do anything
14:11:07 <Mort-> sure
14:11:07 <Mort-> no way
14:11:10 <Mort-> Ill stay where I am
14:11:15 <Avatar> Mort delays
14:11:20 <Avatar> it's Hitomi's turn
14:11:23 <Mort-> I sure as hell am
14:11:25 <Mort-> NOT moving
14:11:27 <Mort-> into that melee shit mess
14:11:32 <Gogg> I want to move
14:12:14 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+2 tumble I3
14:12:15 <diebot> Hitomi, tumble I3: [1d20=15] 17
14:12:23 <Mort-> he tumbles
14:12:27 <Mort-> cool beans
14:12:31 <Mort-> hes so cuuuuutttee!
14:12:46 <Avatar> Hitomi tumbles like a badass!
14:12:54 <Mort-> and cuddly!
14:12:57 <Hitomi> draw cold iron bastard
14:13:09 <Avatar> Hitomi draws his cold iron bastard sword while tumbling like the bastard he is!
14:13:11 <Mort-> haahaha
14:13:13 <Tasiv> mort: hitomi has tight buttocks
14:13:20 <Mort-> hope he acutally HITS something...
14:13:28 <Mort-> and not just prance around on silly accrobatics
14:13:45 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+7 cleave 2
14:13:46 <diebot> Hitomi, cleave 2: [1d20=10] 17
14:13:51 <Avatar> hit
14:13:52 <Avatar> roll damage
14:13:58 <Hitomi> !throw 1d10+6 dmg
14:13:58 <diebot> Hitomi, dmg: [1d10=8] 14
14:14:05 <Mort-> he still alive?
14:14:06 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+7 cleave 3
14:14:07 <diebot> Hitomi, cleave 3: [1d20=18] 25
14:14:08 <Mort-> number 2?
14:14:12 <Hitomi> !throw 1d10+6 dmg
14:14:12 <Avatar> hit
14:14:12 <diebot> Hitomi, dmg: [1d10=6] 12
14:14:22 <Mort-> probably should have uptiered this..
14:14:44 <Mort-> wtf
14:14:46 <Mort-> thats a LOT of em
14:14:56 <Mort-> yeah
14:14:57 <Mort-> exactly
14:15:06 <Gogg> move between Bobbob and Tasiv
14:15:07 <Avatar> it's Bobbob's turn
14:15:09 <Gogg> me me
14:15:11 <Bobbob> I attack #3 with my lance
14:15:19 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+10 p-attack
14:15:19 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=13] 23
14:15:22 <Avatar> hit
14:15:22 <Mort-> he can hit
14:15:23 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10 damage
14:15:23 <diebot> Bobbob, damage: [1d6=5] 15
14:15:23 <Mort-> from so far?
14:15:34 <Bobbob> 5 foot south
14:15:35 <Bobbob> wolf attacks #2
14:15:39 <Tasiv> "demon go boom"
14:15:52 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+7 bite; 1d20+6 trip
14:15:53 <diebot> Bobbob, bite: [1d20=1] 8; trip: [1d20=13] 19
14:15:55 <Gogg> I wasnt able to use my delay action?
14:16:09 <Bobbob> end turn
14:16:17 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
14:16:27 <Gogg> no worries
14:16:38 <Mort-> its okay
14:16:41 <Mort-> if one of them sneaks out u can guard me :D
14:16:55 <Gogg> yeah
14:17:12 <Gogg> I dont have anywhere to move
14:17:13 <Tasiv> "rip into 'em gogg"
14:17:19 <Mort-> u can push past allies
14:17:21 <Mort-> but ull take AOO
14:17:41 <Mort-> I wouldnt on gog
14:17:44 <Mort-> he wearing full plate
14:17:49 <Gogg> J2
14:18:11 <Mort-> gets AOO?
14:18:16 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
14:18:16 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=9] 13
14:18:20 <Mort-> misses
14:18:25 <Gogg> total def
14:18:26 <Avatar> standard action remains
14:18:32 <Mort-> throw ranged?
14:18:41 <Gogg> and prone
14:18:44 <Gogg> end turn
14:18:57 <Mort-> I can move to K3..
14:19:02 <Gogg> :)
14:19:13 <Gogg> yes
14:19:25 <Avatar> +8 AC
14:19:26 <Mort-> he hash no brains :D
14:19:37 <Avatar> it's Tasiv's turn
14:19:39 <Gogg> chaotic me
14:19:40 <Bobbob> it's actually +0 AC against melee
14:19:43 <Bobbob> and +8 AC against ranged
14:19:50 <Mort-> u can cut into him
14:19:51 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+8 ranged cold iron on 2
14:19:51 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged cold iron on 2: [1d20=14] 22
14:19:55 <Avatar> roll damage
14:19:59 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+6 dmg
14:19:59 <diebot> Tasiv, dmg: [1d8=2] 8
14:20:01 <Mort-> how come no AOO from being next to 2?
14:20:07 <Tasiv> end turn!
14:20:25 <Gogg> no
14:20:34 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
14:20:34 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=19] 23
14:20:38 <Mort-> ow
14:20:41 <Avatar> !throw 1d4+1
14:20:42 <diebot> Avatar, 1d4+1: [1d4=4] 5
14:20:45 <Mort-> hp?
14:20:47 <Tasiv> 16/21
14:20:48 <Mort-> k
14:21:06 <Avatar> #4 casts a spell
14:21:11 <Mort-> not I
14:21:13 <Mort-> Im outside
14:21:37 <Mort-> your position in room, is like asking to be coloursprayed/burning hands
14:21:46 <Gogg> they appear...demonic
14:22:03 <Gogg> re yu describing me :)
14:22:59 <Mort-> ur not thorwing holy water are you?
14:23:19 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+10 fort
14:23:19 <diebot> Bobbob, fort: [1d20=1] 11
14:23:24 <Mort-> ah told you
14:23:27 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+5
14:23:27 <diebot> Hitomi, 1d20+5: [1d20=10] 15
14:23:33 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+4 fort
14:23:33 <diebot> Tasiv, fort: [1d20=11] 15
14:23:34 * Mort- is glad she is not in the room
14:23:40 <Gogg> !throw 1d20+7 fort
14:23:41 <diebot> Gogg, fort: [1d20=2] 9
14:24:00 <Avatar> a stinking cloud appears
14:24:06 <Mort-> oh dear
14:24:08 <Avatar> Tasiv and Hitomi manage to hold themselves together
14:24:13 <Avatar> Bobbob and Gogg become nauseated
14:24:16 <Avatar> <?nauseated
14:24:16 <diebot> Creatures with the nauseated condition experience stomach distress. Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells, or do anything else requiring attention. The only action such a character can take is a single move actions per turn.
14:24:54 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6 fort
14:24:55 <diebot> Bobbob, fort: [1d20=14] 20
14:25:03 <Avatar> the demon becomes nauseated too
14:26:10 <Tasiv> poo!
14:26:19 <Mort-> I have a torch but I gave it to bobbob
14:26:36 <Avatar> !throw 1d4+1 bobbob's nausea
14:26:36 <diebot> Avatar, bobbob's nausea: [1d4=1] 2
14:26:39 <Avatar> !throw 1d4+1 gogg's nausea
14:26:39 <diebot> Avatar, gogg's nausea: [1d4=2] 3
14:27:59 <Mort-> just eat the nausea
14:28:46 <Mort-> "Some spells die with the death of their caster"
14:28:52 <Avatar> #5 casts a spell
14:29:05 <Avatar> Tasiv: roll a will save
14:29:36 <Mort-> he'll tell us probably
14:29:39 <Mort-> when he wants to
14:29:58 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+2 will
14:29:59 <diebot> Tasiv, will: [1d20=10] 12
14:30:13 <Avatar> Tasiv becomes shaken
14:30:16 <Avatar> <?shaken
14:30:17 <diebot> A shaken character takes a 2 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, skill checks, and ability checks. Shaken is a less severe state of fear than frightened or panicked.
14:30:24 <Tasiv> okee
14:30:40 <Mort-> u guys need to kill 4
14:30:43 <Mort-> then move out of the cloud
14:30:46 <Avatar> it's Mort's turn
14:30:52 <Mort-> if I move to K3
14:30:54 <Mort-> any cloud?
14:31:09 <Tasiv> projectile vomit
14:31:11 <Tasiv> ranged
14:31:23 <Mort-> so I have to save then can I hit?
14:31:23 <Avatar> K3 and L3 have cloud
14:31:32 <Avatar> you aren't affected yet
14:31:38 <Avatar> you won't be if you don't move into the cloud
14:31:38 <Mort-> k so can I move to K3 and shoot at 4?
14:31:49 <Mort-> assuming I dont get nauseated?
14:31:50 <Avatar> if you move to K3 you'll be moving into the cloud and will have to make a save
14:31:52 <Mort-> or is he out of range?
14:32:04 <Mort-> if I can shoot at him I will
14:32:07 <Mort-> k I will
14:32:16 <Avatar> roll a fort save
14:32:42 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+1
14:32:42 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+1: [1d20=16] 17
14:32:51 <Avatar> Mort keeps her stomach together
14:32:54 <Mort-> so number 4..now what do I wnat ot do with him
14:33:00 <Mort-> use generallist ablity
14:33:02 <Mort-> the intel one
14:33:13 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+5
14:33:13 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+5: [1d20=3] 8
14:33:15 <Mort-> miss
14:33:17 <Avatar> miss
14:33:22 <Avatar> it's Hitomi's turn
14:33:25 <Mort-> save?
14:33:28 <Mort-> or no need
14:33:52 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+8 power attack
14:33:53 <diebot> Hitomi, power attack: [1d20=11] 19
14:33:58 <Avatar> hit
14:34:00 <Avatar> roll damage
14:34:03 <Hitomi> !throw 1d10+6 dmg 4
14:34:04 <diebot> Hitomi, dmg 4: [1d10=10] 16
14:34:06 <Tasiv> owch
14:34:09 <Mort-> he still alive?
14:34:53 <Hitomi> end
14:34:58 <Avatar> it's Bobbob's turn
14:35:02 <Avatar> move action remains
14:35:05 <Mort-> he still feeling sick?
14:35:06 <Mort-> :P
14:35:07 <Bobbob> northwest, west, southwest
14:35:10 <Bobbob> and attack #4 with my wolf
14:36:12 <Bobbob> I'll move two east and one south, assuming that takes me out of the cloud
14:36:24 <Bobbob> end turn
14:36:25 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
14:36:28 <Avatar> move action remains
14:36:36 <Mort-> he sick or not :P
14:36:41 <Avatar> yeah
14:36:45 <Gogg> brb, I wont be moving
14:36:53 <Mort-> he likes sitting in cloud
14:37:06 <Gogg> end turn
14:37:11 <Avatar> are you delay or is that your move
14:37:29 <Avatar> there's no disadvantage to delaying instead
14:37:38 <Tasiv> i think he's gone
14:37:44 <Avatar> it's Tasiv's turn
14:37:49 <Tasiv> ranged attacked on 4
14:37:50 <Mort-> shoot at 4?
14:37:53 <Mort-> but penlaties..
14:37:57 <Mort-> for melee and shaken
14:38:12 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+2 ranged cold iron on 4
14:38:12 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged cold iron on 4: [1d20=13] 15
14:38:35 <Tasiv> it was +8
14:38:37 <Tasiv> -4 for melee
14:38:41 <Tasiv> -2 for shaken
14:38:44 <Avatar> that's a hit
14:38:53 <Avatar> roll damage
14:38:55 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+6 dmg
14:38:56 <diebot> Tasiv, dmg: [1d8=8] 14
14:39:02 <Mort-> hes dead.
14:39:07 <Tasiv> splat
14:39:09 <Mort-> thers no way..he can take that kind of dmg :P
14:39:36 <Mort-> ur in a cloud
14:39:38 <Mort-> I would move aha
14:39:47 <Tasiv> move to g4
14:40:16 <Tasiv> move to f4 provoke an aoo
14:40:36 <Tasiv> end movement
14:40:38 <Avatar> the demon's readied attack goes off
14:40:40 <Tasiv> end turn
14:40:49 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4 bite
14:40:50 <diebot> Avatar, bite: [1d20=17] 21
14:40:50 <Mort-> whats te readied attack
14:40:51 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4 claw
14:40:51 <diebot> Avatar, claw: [1d20=5] 9
14:40:52 <diebot> Avatar, claw: [1d20=8] 12
14:40:55 <Mort-> ow
14:40:59 <Avatar> !throw 1d4+1
14:40:59 <diebot> Avatar, 1d4+1: [1d4=2] 3
14:41:08 <Tasiv> 13/21
14:41:35 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+1
14:41:36 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+1: [1d20=16] 17
14:41:37 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+5 fort
14:41:38 <diebot> Hitomi, fort: [1d20=14] 19
14:41:40 <Mort-> Im stepping back
14:41:41 <Gogg> how many runds had passed? sorry
14:41:47 <Gogg> washed dishes
14:41:49 <Avatar> both save
14:41:49 <Mort-> eh wait
14:41:51 <Mort-> Ill move
14:41:56 <Mort-> G2
14:42:16 <Mort-> phew no cloud :D
14:42:19 <Avatar> standard action remains
14:42:37 * Mort- zips around happily
14:42:43 <Avatar> it's Hitomi's turn
14:42:50 <Mort-> clear the cloud
14:42:51 <Gogg> cantrip that demon
14:43:05 <Hitomi> move e5
14:43:09 <Avatar> I don't think you have a means to clear the cloud
14:43:20 <Avatar> you attempt to
14:43:24 <Avatar> using your hands
14:43:29 <Mort-> I dont have it at this level
14:43:32 <Mort-> maybe next level
14:43:36 <Mort-> breeze wouldnt work wouldit?
14:43:42 <Mort-> its a cantrip but anyway..
14:43:43 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+2 tumbleweed
14:43:43 <diebot> Hitomi, tumbleweed: [1d20=5] 7
14:43:44 <Mort-> didnt load it
14:43:49 <Mort-> whats tumbleweed?
14:44:02 <Gogg> pippin's favorite
14:44:13 <Gogg> and meriadoc's :)
14:44:17 <Mort-> what spells would clear the cloud
14:44:27 <Gogg> gust of wind
14:44:31 <Mort-> not this level
14:44:35 * Mort- is sad
14:44:39 <Gogg> yep
14:44:41 <Hitomi> :D
14:44:42 <Mort-> next
14:44:45 <Mort-> i dont have it yet
14:44:48 <Hitomi> we are sitting on the field of battle
14:44:50 <Mort-> besides its kinda a...crap spell
14:44:51 <Mort-> hahah
14:44:54 <Hitomi> enjoying some well earned ... things
14:45:12 <Avatar> the demon tries to bite you while you tumble through
14:45:15 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
14:45:16 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=2] 6
14:45:25 <Avatar> standard action remains
14:45:30 <Tasiv> "kill the fucking thing"
14:45:31 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+9 power attack
14:45:32 <diebot> Hitomi, power attack: [1d20=2] 11
14:45:39 <Mort-> Ill stay where I am till you clean up the mess guys
14:45:40 <Mort-> :D
14:45:45 <Avatar> it's Bobbob's turn
14:45:56 <Bobbob> I'll walk into it
14:46:00 <Bobbob> I'm still affected so I don't have to save
14:46:05 <Bobbob> but my wolf does
14:46:31 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6 wolf
14:46:31 <diebot> Bobbob, wolf: [1d20=18] 24
14:46:38 <Bobbob> I want to move to F3
14:46:56 <Bobbob> and my wolf will attack #5
14:47:02 <Brunius> ??Blinded
14:47:05 <Mort-> can people kill your mount?
14:47:06 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+7 bite; 1d20+6 trip
14:47:06 <diebot> Bobbob, bite: [1d20=6] 13; trip: [1d20=18] 24
14:47:11 <Bobbob> end turn
14:47:16 <Mort-> anyone gets tripped?
14:47:35 <Mort-> ah okay
14:47:39 <Mort-> so he doesnt trip that guy
14:47:43 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
14:47:47 <Gogg> yeah
14:47:53 <Avatar> move action remains
14:48:02 <Gogg> run?
14:48:09 <Avatar> you need to get up first
14:48:31 * Gogg rofl
14:48:32 <Avatar> what do you want to do
14:48:43 <Gogg> that's my action
14:48:46 <Gogg> :)
14:48:51 <Mort-> he wants ot roll on the floor laughing
14:48:52 <Mort-> hahhaha
14:48:56 <Avatar> it's Tasiv's turn
14:49:01 <Mort-> start whacking him?
14:49:13 <Mort-> bobbob and hitomi
14:49:21 <Mort-> they were busily hitting around
14:49:34 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+4 ranged cold iron on 5
14:49:34 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged cold iron on 5: [1d20=11] 15
14:49:39 <Avatar> hit roll damage
14:49:43 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+6 dmg
14:49:44 <diebot> Tasiv, dmg: [1d8=1] 7
14:49:51 <Mort-> he still alive?
14:49:52 <Gogg> Gogg is rolling on the floor because he actually has an ironshod stomach
14:49:54 <Avatar> move action remains
14:50:10 <Mort-> E2?
14:50:13 <Tasiv> c4
14:50:16 <Gogg> but his stomach was "tickled" by the stinking cloud so he can't move
14:50:23 <Tasiv> move to c4
14:50:40 <Mort-> mind you that area
14:50:42 <Mort-> is unexplored
14:50:44 <Mort-> might have baddies :)
14:51:09 <Avatar> the cloud dissipates
14:51:15 <Mort-> phew
14:51:30 <Mort-> this place is pretty crammed up
14:52:07 <Tasiv> end turn
14:52:12 <Mort-> next?
14:52:17 <Avatar> !rng bobbob hitomi ghost
14:52:17 <diebot> Avatar, bobbob
14:52:23 <Avatar> the demon attacks Bobbob
14:52:32 <Gogg> so you're Ghost Rider?
14:52:34 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
14:52:35 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
14:52:35 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=11] 15
14:52:35 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=7] 11
14:52:35 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=2] 6
14:52:37 <Bobbob> AC 22
14:52:53 <Gogg> Marvel sues Bobbob
14:52:59 <Avatar> it's Mort's turn
14:53:09 <Mort-> F4..
14:53:13 <Mort-> throw generalist again
14:53:25 <Avatar> roll it
14:53:26 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+1
14:53:26 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+1: [1d20=18] 19
14:53:27 <Gogg> hand of apprentice?
14:53:31 <Mort-> -4 for melee...
14:53:38 <Mort-> I already - already
14:53:41 <Mort-> for the shooting at melee
14:53:44 <Mort-> else itd be + 5..
14:53:46 <Avatar> miss
14:53:54 <Avatar> hit
14:53:55 <Mort-> I should hit
14:53:56 <Avatar> roll damage
14:54:04 <Mort-> !throw 1d8
14:54:05 <diebot> Mort-, 1d8: [1d8=4] 4
14:54:12 <Mort-> threw longsword at it yeah
14:54:24 <Avatar> it's Hitomi's turn
14:54:25 <Mort-> it spats?
14:54:26 <Mort-> what?
14:54:28 <Mort-> that thing is still alive?
14:54:32 <Hitomi> 5ft then kill
14:54:42 <Hitomi> !throw 1d20+8 power attack 5
14:54:42 <diebot> Hitomi, power attack 5: [1d20=7] 15
14:54:44 <Avatar> hit
14:54:45 <Avatar> roll damage
14:54:59 <Hitomi> !throw 1d10+6 dmg
14:54:59 <diebot> Hitomi, dmg: [1d10=10] 16
14:55:02 <Mort-> this one proabbly we can uptier
14:55:08 <Mort-> didnt really even nick us mouch
14:55:09 <Avatar> you destroy the demon
14:55:11 <Mort-> victory dance?
14:55:15 <Bobbob> we check the room for a portal
14:55:15 <Hitomi> we did uptier
14:55:21 <Bobbob> I can use my search check from earlier now! yay!
14:55:50 <Gogg> check for arcane device used for portal - takee 20
14:55:51 <Mort-> heh
14:56:09 <Avatar> in the area, you find a charred corpse
14:56:35 <Mort-> heh
14:56:38 <Avatar> a tin crown that has a crude inscription that reads "Emporer Relios" by the corpse
14:56:42 <Mort-> ah
14:56:49 <Gogg> inspect body and nearby area around him if there's any device
14:56:49 <Mort-> anyone wants to use knowledge nobility?
14:56:52 <Avatar> he's actually sitting in the chair
14:57:14 <Avatar> amidst the furniture is a desk with several log books and journals
14:57:19 <Mort-> read those!
14:57:23 <Mort-> "read those!"
14:57:50 <Gogg> "lemme read, ahm elite rate."
14:58:02 <Mort-> "No gogg..good halforcs dont read"
14:58:03 <Avatar> most of them detail the day-to-day transactions of the emporium, but you find one that is a personal journal
14:58:13 <Tasiv> "aha!"
14:58:17 <Gogg> no illiterate person in pfs
14:58:22 <Mort-> urm but with his int score..
14:58:23 <Gogg> not even barbarians
14:58:25 <Mort-> its going to be ...
14:58:27 <Mort-> epic..
14:58:32 <Hitomi> "no halforc left behind"
14:59:00 <Gogg> might take half a day though
14:59:02 <Avatar> it details the goings on of many of Relios' wealthy clients, as well as his personal life including the details of his ancestry and his son's birth
14:59:04 <Mort-> agreed
14:59:11 <Mort-> okay what did it say about his son's birth
14:59:16 <Tasiv> "ok mort - that's what we're looking for"
14:59:21 <Tasiv> "bag it up"
14:59:23 <Mort-> "Gimme!"
14:59:29 <Tasiv> "and the crown too"
14:59:32 <Avatar> one of the last ledgers mentions that Relios was falling on hard times and intended on selling his wayfinder back to the Pathfinder Society
14:59:36 <Mort-> "Unless you want to keep it, Tasiv"
14:59:52 <Tasiv> "no you take it - it's all good"
14:59:58 <Avatar> the ledgers also show a steady stream of yellowcap mushrooms to members of the pre-revolution high society in Augustana
15:00:15 <Tasiv> "relios is the crazy man's dad?"
15:00:26 <Mort-> oh so he is the prince afterall
15:00:35 <Tasiv> "aye mort"
15:00:37 <Bobbob> do we find the portal
15:00:40 <Avatar> the next room is filled with vaults filled with yellowcap mushrooms
15:00:41 <Gogg> take 20 searching this room for a portal
15:00:59 <Tasiv> "mort take the journal and the crown"
15:01:15 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 nobility
15:01:15 <diebot> Bobbob, nobility: [1d20=6] 11
15:01:30 <Bobbob> Mort-: roll nature
15:01:45 <Mort-> yeah
15:02:02 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+8 nature
15:02:02 <diebot> Mort-, nature: [1d20=18] 26
15:02:06 <Mort-> cool haha
15:02:10 <Mort-> I told you Im a morto f all works
15:02:12 <Mort-> semi afk eating lunch
15:02:24 <Avatar> faerie effigies hide among the mushrooms, and on the very back wall is a painting of a portal, a large circle of swirling colour patterns
15:02:45 <Avatar> on the floor is an open and empty scroll case next to a slightly charred, blank piece of parchment
15:03:09 <Hitomi> "hmm let me see that scroll"
15:03:17 <Tasiv> stand back a ways
15:03:57 <Avatar> you can roll spellcraft re the scroll if you like
15:04:12 <Gogg> "me check painting"
15:04:54 <Gogg> "me lift painting"
15:05:15 <Gogg> what's afk?
15:05:25 <Tasiv> mort? roll spellcraft?
15:05:31 <Mort-> back
15:05:32 <Gogg> mort?
15:05:37 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+8
15:05:37 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+8: [1d20=12] 20
15:05:38 <Mort-> done
15:05:55 <Mort-> the shrroms..
15:05:57 <Avatar> you can tell the parchment is the remains of a used scroll
15:06:15 <Gogg> "I know that!"
15:06:27 <Mort-> "the shrroms cause hallucinations when eaten, wouldnt recommend eating one"
15:06:31 <Avatar> as Gogg steps closer, the portal closes
15:06:33 <Tasiv> bag up the scroll and the scroll case
15:06:43 <Mort-> not really
15:07:07 <Gogg> we take the scroll and the painting
15:07:20 <Mort-> we were supposed to show that guy is the prince
15:07:42 <Mort-> taht was..the easiest one Ive run across
15:07:43 <Mort-> really
15:07:43 <Gogg> yay
15:08:01 <Mort-> did we really need cold iron though
15:08:15 <Bobbob> kind of
15:08:52 <Mort-> but probably nothing
15:09:04 <Gogg> magnificulously
15:10:12 <Gogg> do they have dr/cold iron?
15:11:17 <Bobbob> cold iron or good
15:12:11 <Tasiv> "send him to the asylum"
15:12:11 <Mort-> yeah I think we should
15:12:24 <Mort-> they sent an elite
15:12:25 <Mort-> group of
15:12:27 <Mort-> pathfinders
15:12:30 * Avatar removes voice from Bobbob Gogg Hitomi Mort- Tasiv
15:12:33 <Mort-> to deal with a madman's dellusions? :P
15:12:34 <Mort-> lol
15:12:36 <Tasiv> thank you avatar! thank you all
15:12:45 <Mort-> thanks all
15:12:48 <Mort-> if this could be uptiered
15:12:51 <Mort-> Id uptier it up further
15:12:52 <Mort-> hahah
15:12:53 <Avatar> everyone gets 2 prestige
15:12:57 Bobbob is now known as Ballig
15:13:00 Tasiv is now known as tristen
15:13:13 <Avatar> and +1279gp
15:13:16 <tristen> mithril shorts?
15:13:18 <Gogg> tis better to check if there's malady afoot and be wrong
15:13:38 <Mort-> wow
15:13:40 <Mort-> SO MUCH MONEHS...
15:13:42 <Gogg> than not to check and be wrong = catastrophe
15:13:47 * Mort- absolutely oggles :D
15:13:55 Hitomi is now known as Thelen
15:13:55 <Mort-> itll cover my pearl of power..!!
15:13:56 <Mort-> WOOOT
15:13:58 <Thelen> excellllent
15:14:00 <Mort-> but Im still level 2
15:14:04 <tristen> LEVEL UP
15:14:05 <Avatar> almost there
15:14:06 <Thelen> what an easy mission thanks to balligs uber roles
15:14:09 Gogg is now known as Jaggedsoul
15:14:15 <Ballig> nah I didn't do much
15:14:17 <Ballig> didn't even charge
15:14:24 <Mort-> we more or less polisehd up evertyihng
15:14:26 <Jaggedsoul> level 3!
15:14:28 <Mort-> they threw at us
15:14:29 <Ballig> that's two scenarios in a row where I haven't had a single charge
15:14:30 <Mort-> Im still 2
15:14:37 <Mort-> pokay what was it
15:14:40 <Mort-> about detect magic?
15:14:42 <Mort-> Imo its silly
15:14:45 <Mort-> but Im not using ray of frost anyway
15:14:47 <Ballig> it's great
15:14:55 <Ballig> what level 0 spells do you prepare
15:15:03 <Jaggedsoul> the 1-2 night in the museum was much harder - I got dropped twice!
15:15:06 <Ballig> basically you can cast detect magic and spend 30 seconds scanning a room to find /any/ hidden magic item in it
15:15:08 <Ballig> or detect magic traps
15:15:09 <Ballig> etc
15:15:20 <Jaggedsoul> dayjob roll?
15:15:24 <Ballig> oh, right, dayjob
15:15:32 <Ballig> !throw 1d20+7 dayjob
15:15:32 <diebot> Ballig, dayjob: [1d20=9] 16
15:15:42 <Mort-> Cantrips: Detect Poison, Disrupt Undead, Acid Splash, Detect Magic
15:15:44 <Mort-> atm like this
15:15:47 <Jaggedsoul> !throw 1d20+11 dayjob
15:15:47 <diebot> Jaggedsoul, dayjob: [1d20=14] 25
15:15:51 <Mort-> so I can daydrop?
15:15:51 <Avatar> Thelen: ROLL YOUR DAY JOB
15:15:53 <Mort-> okay
15:15:58 <Ballig> yeah do it instead of detect poison or disrupt undead
15:16:00 <Mort-> whats dayjob based on :P
15:16:02 <tristen> thelen: AND GET A HAIRCUT
15:16:03 <Avatar> yeah and everyone else who has craft
15:16:06 <Mort-> nah now its fixed up
15:16:06 <Avatar> or profession
15:16:08 <Mort-> I dont have craft
15:16:13 <Mort-> or profession as yet
15:16:16 <Mort-> time ot look for one?
15:16:20 <Avatar> no dayjob for you
15:16:25 <Avatar> thelen just never rolls his
15:16:33 <Jaggedsoul> Mekkis, you about?
15:16:41 <Mort-> now I fixed it
15:16:41 <Ballig> thelen got like 50 gold on his last dayjob
15:16:43 <Mort-> btw does Breeze
15:16:44 <Ballig> and yet he still sticks his nose up at it!
15:16:46 <Mort-> clear up stinking cloud?
15:16:46 <Ballig> :p
15:16:53 <Ballig> not if it's level 0
15:16:58 <Mort-> I only have lv 0 stuff
15:17:01 <Mort-> Im still level 2..
15:17:08 <Ballig> where is breeze
15:17:11 <Avatar> <?Bobbob
15:17:14 <Mort-> cantrips
15:17:19 <Avatar> Ballig: put your PFS# on your sheet
15:17:21 <Ballig> what book is Breeze in
15:17:24 <Ballig> 22876-1
15:17:28 <Ballig> I PMed it toyou
15:17:30 <Ballig> at the start of the game
15:17:31 <Mort-> butmy
15:17:34 <Mort-> its sooo moneh making
15:17:37 <Ballig> my PFS number is a secret !
15:17:37 <Avatar> is it a secret
15:17:41 <Mort-> Im going to get a pearl of power? :P
15:17:42 <Ballig> please put it in german on my character sheet
15:17:53 <Ballig> Mort-: I'd recommend it
15:17:57 <Ballig> you seem like you would use it
15:17:58 <Mort-> how about your ioun stone
15:18:01 <Mort-> got blown up?
15:18:05 <Mort-> ya I spent 25 gc on a scroll
15:18:06 <Ballig> I didn't get blown up
15:18:07 <Jaggedsoul> what does a result of 25 get?
15:18:23 <Mort-> autally this whole missoin
15:18:25 <Mort-> didnt need armor...
15:18:26 <Ballig> that ioun torch was the best 75 gold I spent
15:18:27 <Mort-> more or less
15:18:28 <Mort-> hahaha
15:18:33 <Mort-> what is it for exactly?
15:18:37 <Mort-> getting u blown up in sewers? :D
15:18:41 <Ballig> I didn't get blown up
15:18:45 <Ballig> my ioun torch /saved/ me from being blown up
15:18:49 <Ballig> because it doesn't create heat or use oxygen
15:18:51 <Avatar> what's weapon blanch?
15:18:56 <Mort-> but why did it blow up?
15:18:59 <Ballig> it's an alchemical item you apply to a weapon to make it that special material
15:19:02 <Mort-> you had to do reflex saves
15:19:05 <Ballig> it didn't blow up
15:19:10 <Avatar> he was lucky it didn't produce heat
15:19:12 <Ballig> I told Avatar my torch didn't create heat
15:19:15 <Mort-> oh
15:19:18 <Ballig> so my ioun torch actually saved me from blowing up
15:19:21 <Mort-> I see
15:19:27 <Avatar> so the gas couldn't ignite
15:19:28 <Mort-> ah
15:19:30 <Ballig> yeah
15:19:36 <Avatar> weapon blanch?
15:19:44 <Mort-> give wepaons some ablities
15:19:48 <Mort-> but the acid was nice
15:19:48 <Ballig> it's an alchemical item that you apply to a weapon to make it that special material
15:19:51 <Mort-> sorry u ahd to use urs
15:19:57 <Mort-> is acid better then alchemist fire? :P
15:19:58 <Ballig> it's in the APG
15:20:08 <Ballig> acid is cheaper, but alchemist fire can actually set someone on fire
15:20:12 <Ballig> and do more damage the next round
15:20:13 <Brunius> This is great
15:20:15 <Mort-> I still dont see the point of butterfly nets :P
15:20:18 <Ballig> acid is better for swarms
15:20:19 <Brunius> 75% of the party is blind
15:20:23 <Ballig> :O
15:20:28 <Mort-> we more or less dealt with the swarms easy
15:20:33 <Ballig> sounds like first steps 3, brunius
15:20:36 <Mort-> I come prepared for it too
15:20:46 <Ballig> yeah, I'm seriously wary of swarms
15:21:05 <Mort-> I paid attention..
15:21:11 <Mort-> I have 5 jugs of that alchemist fire
15:21:13 <Ballig> and you were laughing at me for my use of resources
15:21:14 <Ballig> :p
15:21:15 <Mort-> but mabye I should get acid
15:21:16 <Mort-> yah
15:21:20 <Mort-> because thats being too paranoid lol
15:21:21 <Mort-> imo :P
15:21:31 <Ballig> it's being smart
15:21:33 <Mort-> ur level 5
15:21:36 <Mort-> Im level 2
15:21:39 <Mort-> ur richer then I am
15:21:44 <Ballig> it was 10 gold :p
15:21:45 <Mort-> I might get an ioun torch too
15:21:49 <Mort-> and yes Ill get acid flasks
15:21:52 <Mort-> beats throwing alchemist fire
15:21:55 <Mort-> though if I were pushed to it
15:21:59 <Mort-> yes I would throw
15:22:20 <Mort-> I for one
15:22:25 <Mort-> will never leave house wihout disrupt undead
15:22:28 <Mort-> undead as a whole are hard to dmg
15:23:24 <Avatar> had a few level ups today
15:23:40 <Jaggedsoul> yay 50gp for me
15:23:47 <Mort-> btw what about perception
15:23:48 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul: you need to put your faction on your character sheet
15:23:51 <Mort-> mine wont be any good ever
15:23:55 <Avatar> what faction are you
15:23:55 Brunius is now known as Brunius_AFK
15:23:57 <Mort-> also
15:23:58 <Jaggedsoul> It's there
15:24:01 <Mort-> what was the thing that priest was doing on us
15:24:02 <Jaggedsoul> Cheliax
15:24:04 <Mort-> about the heal checks
15:24:07 <Mort-> and the perception
15:24:08 <Avatar> Class: Fighter
15:24:08 <Avatar> Faction:
15:24:08 <Avatar> Alignment: Chaotic Good
15:24:10 <Mort-> never resolved it?
15:24:10 Credlics is now known as Lord
15:24:16 <Mort-> wow what happend guys
15:24:18 <Mort-> TPK? :P
15:24:27 <Princess> i got angry
15:24:28 <Princess> and killed it
15:24:30 Princess is now known as Tashezs
15:24:33 Tashezs is now known as Tashes
15:24:39 <Avatar> you would
15:24:40 <Ballig> haha
15:24:45 Nearis is now known as Hydrazin
15:24:47 <Mort-> class tashes?
15:24:47 Hydrazin is now known as Hydrazine
15:24:51 <Tashes> Has anyone actually taken damage yet?
15:24:53 <Ballig> Mort-: it was just a check to see that he sucked as a healer
15:24:55 <Lord> me
15:24:58 <Tashes> Lol. pregen rog mort
15:25:06 <Ballig> Tashes: if it makes you feel any better, Bobbob took 2 damage
15:25:09 <Ballig> he got down to 50/52
15:25:14 <Tashes> D:
15:25:27 <Ballig> stupid spider warm
15:25:32 <Mort-> didnt do much to the rest of us though
15:25:40 <Mort-> he dealt with it good
15:26:02 <Tashes> Oh my, look how busy this room is!
15:26:08 <Hydrazine> lol
15:26:15 <Jaggedsoul> avatar, fixed it - btw I got 50gp for dayjob roll - huzzah!
15:26:16 <Hydrazine> That blinding frog is a dick.
15:26:48 <Lord> didnt stop me the first two times:P
15:26:58 <Mort-> its about 2 jugs per swarm
15:27:02 <Mort-> Im getting anotehr 5 jugs of acid
15:27:04 <Mort-> an ioun stone
15:27:08 <Mort-> and a pearl of power
15:27:11 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul: what faction were you
15:27:14 <Mort-> and replacemy mage armor scroll
15:27:22 <Jaggedsoul> Cheliax
15:27:49 <Jaggedsoul> I put it there before, maybe got erased when I was updating
15:28:18 <Ballig> Avatar: do we get a discount on that mithral shirt because there's a typo
15:28:19 <Jaggedsoul> maybe because I saved it in USB and then used the old file in the pc
15:29:07 <Jaggedsoul> gtg guys nice game
15:29:15 <Lord> cya
15:29:16 <Tashes> Guys, i need to buff my resume. What comptuer proficiencies should i put on it?
15:29:19 <Mort-> how did you keel the frog :P
15:29:29 <Tashes> other than office/photosop/adobe/
15:29:36 <Hydrazine> rift
15:29:39 <Jaggedsoul> quit
15:29:43 Jaggedsoul has quit (Quit: )
15:29:43 <Hydrazine> pro cleric is pro
15:29:44 <Ballig> Tashes: IRC
15:29:51 <Ballig> tell them you are an IRC master
15:29:57 <Hydrazine> email
15:30:02 <Hydrazine> google-fu
15:30:20 <Avatar> thanks jaggedsoul
15:30:24 <Avatar> don't worry about your chronicle sheet
15:30:25 <Hydrazine> hm. troubleshooting?
15:30:34 <Avatar> and don't worry about giving me all the info I need to create it either
15:30:59 <Ballig> haha
15:31:01 <tristen> why does it say "0" 1st level spells for a 4th level ranger?
15:31:02 <tristen> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger
15:31:11 <Ballig> tristen: because you only get bonus spells
15:31:15 <Ballig> what's your wisdom?
15:31:35 <tristen> 12 (+1)
15:31:40 <tristen> so i get one?
15:31:42 <Ballig> you get 1 bonus spell
15:31:48 <Avatar> er, is that right
15:31:48 <tristen> cool, cheers
15:31:57 <Avatar> I thought you need like 18 for a bonus spell
15:32:05 <Ballig> no
15:32:10 <Ballig> 12 int gives you 1 bonus level 1 spell
15:32:11 <Avatar> is it different with rangers
15:32:12 <Ballig> (but no others)
15:32:13 <Ballig> no
15:32:16 <Mort-> Breeze Create a light wind that blows against target from direction of your choice.
15:32:17 <Mort-> clears up fog?
15:32:22 <Ballig> 18 gives you 1 bonus spell all the way up to 4th level
15:32:23 <Mort-> or whatever clouds?
15:32:30 <Avatar> oh
15:32:38 <Avatar> yeah that does sound right
15:32:44 <tristen> ok
15:32:52 <Ballig> Mort-: what book
15:32:54 <tristen> cheers
15:32:59 <Avatar> Mort-: I love how you convinced everyone to watch out for undead
15:33:04 <Mort-> Blog
15:33:05 <Mort-> hehehe
15:33:07 <Mort-> its okay
15:33:11 <Mort-> no I wasnt looking out ofr undead
15:33:12 <Ballig> what? I wasn't watching out for undead
15:33:12 <Mort-> specifically
15:33:13 <Mort-> holy water
15:33:16 <Mort-> works on evli outsiders
15:33:18 <Mort-> acutally
15:33:18 <Ballig> holy water was for evil outsiders
15:33:20 <Mort-> :D
15:33:23 <Mort-> NOot undead
15:33:24 <Mort-> hahahha
15:33:28 <Ballig> we could have thrown holy water at those dretches
15:33:31 <Mort-> no need
15:33:32 <tristen> lol yeah the holy water salesman has retired
15:33:40 <Mort-> in that scenario
15:33:47 <Mort-> not as if ANY of us were in any serious trouble
15:34:10 <Mort-> yes I knew we could have
15:34:14 <Mort-> but it wasnt as if we needed ot
15:34:19 <Mort-> I was worrid we have to enter the portal
15:34:23 <Mort-> destroy someting inside
15:34:27 <Mort-> then THAT would be trouble
15:34:54 <Mort-> say fighting through 3 of those wuffs we saw at night at the museum
15:34:58 <Mort-> then that WOULD be trouble
15:35:02 <Mort-> holywater would defintely fly out
15:36:01 <Ballig> I want horseshoes of the zephyr
15:36:05 <Ballig> but they're 6000 gold and I only have 3600
15:36:22 <Hydrazine> Prostitution?
15:36:46 <Ballig> nah, I spent time making weapons and made 10 gold
15:36:46 <Ballig> :p
15:37:43 <Avatar> jaggedsoul underpriced his sword
15:37:52 <Avatar> can someone confirm a masterwork cold iron greatsword is 700gp
15:38:21 <Mort-> why do you need it?
15:38:29 <Avatar> 50gp for the greatsword, +300gp masterwork, x2 cold iron
15:38:33 <Ballig> I'm not sure if you double the masterwork cost
15:39:38 <Ballig> I'm checking forums
15:40:33 <Ballig> okay
15:40:36 <Ballig> In the "magic items" section, you will find under the "weapons" section a masterwork, cold iron longsword. It is listed as having a price of 330 gp. There's your answer.
15:40:38 <Ballig> is one of the responses
15:40:40 <Avatar> looks like you don't
15:40:41 <Ballig> so no, you don't double the masterwork cost
15:41:14 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/chronicles/generated/13/41499-1.pdf for when he gets back
15:41:23 <Ballig> cool
15:41:46 <Ballig> those forums are helpful
15:42:08 <Hydrazine> What about a masterwork Blord?
15:42:20 <Ballig> :p
15:43:12 <Ballig> the only thing I could really buy with 3600 that I would want is another +1 to my full plate
15:43:15 <Ballig> but that'd cost 3000 gold
15:44:22 <Mort-> okay so youre suggesting I get tindertwigs..?
15:44:28 <Hydrazine> Hey Ballig, why'd you give Brunius an anti-Hydra dice script?
15:44:37 <Ballig> why am i suggesting you get tindertwigs?
15:44:46 <Ballig> Hydrazine: because I secretly hate you
15:45:01 <Mort-> a Hammer, 4 pitons, 2 sacks, 3 sunrods, 4 tindertwigs, 2 candles, chalk, ever burning torch
15:45:01 <Hydrazine> Its not a secret if you just tell me.
15:45:05 <Mort-> its teh expert dungeoneering kit
15:45:06 <Ballig> and before I sent him the dice script 18 months ago, I added an "If $nick == Hydrazine" and "if $nick == Tashes" check in there
15:45:06 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/chronicles/generated/13/41790-1.pdf Thelen - here's Hitomi's sheet, you can roll two day job rolls next game
15:45:08 <Mort-> the stuff I iddnt have :P
15:45:12 <Ballig> to return rand(1,10)
15:45:12 <Ballig> :o
15:45:26 <Mort-> Ill ksip the ever burning torch if Im getting an ioun stone like yours
15:45:28 <Mort-> which is porbable
15:45:34 <Mort-> I havent gotten the sacks and hammer and pitons yet
15:45:42 <Mort-> I also want an axe if I go outdoors camping
15:45:51 <Mort-> in case I need to chop wood or stuff
15:46:01 <Avatar> Mort-: your sheet says you have 0 exp
15:46:12 <Mort-> m apbout to upload
15:46:13 <Mort-> a new one
15:46:15 <Mort-> me on 4 xp
15:46:40 <Ballig> I'm on 14 xp
15:46:46 <Avatar> 4 exp after today?
15:46:55 <Mort-> ya
15:46:59 <Mort-> including todays run wasnt it?
15:47:01 <Mort-> wait a bit
15:47:20 <Mort-> we be goblins, first scenario, shades of ice 2, museum..
15:47:21 <Mort-> on
15:47:23 <Mort-> should be 5 xp
15:47:25 <Mort-> after today
15:47:43 <Mort-> but I think well wait till I get the monehs
15:47:45 <Mort-> then Im going SHOPPING
15:47:50 <Mort-> PEARL OF POWER HERE I COME
15:48:16 <Ballig> how much fame do you have
15:48:26 <Ballig> oh you should have enough if you bought muleback cords
15:48:54 <Avatar> and I need to know how much prestige you have
15:49:35 <Mort-> prestige its 8 points after today
15:49:41 <Mort-> I spent the first 2 points on a wand of clw
15:49:51 <Mort-> fame how many per scenario?
15:50:17 <Avatar> same as prestige, except prestige you spent doesn't get taken away from it
15:50:47 <Mort-> 10 then
15:50:58 <Avatar> you had 10 prestige before today?
15:51:02 <Mort-> 8 before
15:51:13 <Mort-> I have done 4 scenarios
15:51:19 <Mort-> so today its 10
15:51:24 <Avatar> 5 scenarios after today
15:51:49 <Mort-> ya so now its 10
15:51:50 <Mort-> prestige 8
15:52:21 <Avatar> did you buy a wand of CLW with your prestige?
15:52:30 <Mort-> at the end
15:52:33 <Mort-> of my 1st scenario
15:52:37 <Mort-> I bought the wand of clw
15:52:39 <Avatar> with prestige or gold?
15:52:47 <Mort-> prestige
15:52:54 <Avatar> ok so now you have 8 prestige and 10 fame
15:52:58 <Mort-> yes
15:53:03 <Mort-> I remember telling you guys about my decision
15:53:10 <Mort-> then u guys were like, prestige can be saved up for raise dead
15:53:16 <Mort-> I was like. wtf I dont want to die because I ran out of pots :P
15:53:21 <Ballig> that can't be right
15:53:25 <Ballig> we be goblins is only 1 prestige
15:53:27 <Mort-> ?
15:53:29 <Mort-> oh
15:53:31 <Mort-> I htought it was 2?
15:53:32 <Mort-> but fame?
15:53:37 <Ballig> you need to actually check every chronicle sheet you have
15:53:44 <Ballig> and see how much prestige you've been awarded for each
15:53:45 <Avatar> yeah 1 prestige & fame for WBG
15:53:45 <Mort-> I misplaced the night in the museum one
15:53:53 <Ballig> the one from Mekkis from a week ago?
15:54:17 <Avatar> so you have 7 prestige and 9 fame now
15:54:29 <Ballig> that means you shouldn't have bought the muleback cords
15:54:44 <Mort-> oh
15:54:45 <Mort-> dear
15:54:47 <Mort-> Ooops
15:55:03 <Mort-> thats going to be so weird
15:55:07 <Ballig> you need 9 or more fame to buy something that costs that much
15:55:16 <Mort-> wheres the bloody list
15:55:18 <Ballig> you can get it /now/, you just couldn't get it before now
15:55:19 <Avatar> I don't think it affected this game anyway
15:55:22 <Ballig> it's in the guide to organised play
15:55:32 <Mort-> ya I will re check it now where di I put that lboody guide :P
15:55:34 <Mort-> I DLed it
15:57:49 <Mort-> yep
15:57:57 <Mort-> checked
15:58:20 <Mort-> or less 500 gp
15:58:20 <Mort-> 9 1,500 gp
15:58:44 <Ballig> yep
15:58:48 <Ballig> so now you can get the cords and the pearl of power
15:59:04 <Mort-> yup
15:59:07 <Mort-> and Im going to get them
15:59:09 <Mort-> and sit with htem :P
15:59:15 <Mort-> next item - headband of intellect :D
15:59:15 <Mort-> but.
15:59:20 <Avatar> Mort-: I think this is right - http://dnd.ballig.net/chronicles/generated/13/38742-1.pdf
15:59:20 <Mort-> now what was it about signal whistle
15:59:25 <Mort-> butterfly nets'
15:59:31 <Avatar> check it to see if anything is off before your next game
15:59:38 <Mort-> Im checking
16:00:27 <Avatar> tristen I thought you yelled LEVEL UP because you were levelling up
16:01:06 <Mort-> yep looks right
16:01:27 <Ballig> haha
16:01:30 <Ballig> I don't think he will be yet
16:01:32 <Avatar> did tasiv had a wand of CLW
16:01:33 <Ballig> I think he only recently made level 3
16:01:37 <Ballig> I think so
16:01:42 <Mort-> I lost 2 charges on my wand
16:01:45 <Mort-> becuase I told tasiv to heal me
16:01:50 <Avatar> inventory looks untouched since character creation
16:01:58 <Mort-> that I know
16:02:01 <Avatar> tasiv spent a bunch of wand charges in the museum
16:02:08 <Avatar> there were 3 wands, Mellon's, Tasiv's and someone else's
16:02:17 <Avatar> Mort's
16:02:32 <Mort-> ya mine too
16:02:38 <Mort-> for this scenario I know its - 2 already
16:02:51 <Mort-> we mostly tried to use mellons wand
16:02:57 <Mort-> but I dunno how mnay wands we used int aht huge mess
16:03:21 <Avatar> you're meant to keep track of your own charges
16:03:41 <Avatar> Thawne said Mellon's wand had 30something charges left on it
16:03:48 <Avatar> however many were left on that don't matter
16:08:51 <Avatar> man cairo has money coming out of his eyeballs now
16:11:02 <Ballig> ha
16:11:05 <Ballig> I only have 3600 :(
16:13:29 <Avatar> 10248
16:14:05 <Ballig> get a +2 glaive !
16:14:40 <Avatar> I'm saving up for a vorpal weapon
16:14:52 <Mort-> I have a haadache :D
16:14:55 <Avatar> then Cairo will be all "WHO'S USELESS NOW !"
16:14:55 <Mort-> I am going shopping
16:14:58 <Mort-> and I am going to bu ystuffs
16:15:03 <Ballig> ha
16:15:07 <Mort-> one ioun stone
16:15:13 Tashes is now known as tashafk
16:15:14 <Mort-> one ioun torch
16:15:17 <Mort-> one hammer
16:15:18 <Mort-> 4 pitons
16:15:18 <Mort-> one signla whistle
16:15:22 <Mort-> one mage armor scroll
16:15:33 <Ballig> wow, I don't even want to know how long it will be until cairo has 72000 gold
16:15:55 <Avatar> probably need to play some tier 6-7's asap
16:16:01 <Ballig> has
16:16:04 <Ballig> ha
16:16:05 <MekkiSScreen> 6-7s?
16:16:11 <MekkiSScreen> I'd recommend against it
16:16:17 <Avatar> why
16:16:29 <MekkiSScreen> because the 1-7s are unbalanced at 6-7
16:16:46 <Avatar> so you want to be level 8 before attempting a 6-7?
16:16:49 <Mort-> whats vorpal?
16:16:52 <Mort-> oh yeah can kill
16:16:54 <Mort-> instantly
16:16:55 <MekkiSScreen> no
16:16:55 <Avatar> Mort-: you cut off heads
16:17:02 <MekkiSScreen> I suggest that you play 5-9s instead
16:17:18 <Avatar> but when do you play 6-7's
16:17:25 <Ballig> hey guys, just updating you to keep you in the loop. .my groceries are here
16:17:27 <MekkiSScreen> you don't
16:17:34 <Avatar> ever?
16:17:40 <MekkiSScreen> ever
16:17:47 <MekkiSScreen> you play the 1-7s at 1-2 or 3-4
16:17:59 <MekkiSScreen> I suppose the 3-7s would be OK at 6-7: never played them
16:18:13 <MekkiSScreen> plus, ou won't want to waste your low-level scenarios playing them at 6-7
16:18:24 <Avatar> yeah I guess
16:18:30 <Avatar> but why would you not want to ever play a 6-7
16:18:36 <Avatar> even when you're higher level?
16:18:44 <MekkiSScreen> because they're unbalanced at 6-7
16:18:44 <Avatar> aside from don't waste your low level scenarios
16:18:57 <MekkiSScreen> horribly unbalanced
16:18:58 <Avatar> as in too weak?
16:19:08 <MekkiSScreen> too weak or too strong
16:19:12 <MekkiSScreen> depends on the scenario
16:19:16 <Avatar> hmm ok
16:19:33 <MekkiSScreen> Shadows' last stand 1 is horribly difficult at 6-7
16:19:54 <Avatar> not darkest vengeance difficult though
16:19:55 <MekkiSScreen> I suppose if I wanted you to buy it, I'd run it at 6-7
16:19:56 <Ballig> what are the subtiers in 5-9?
16:20:16 <Ballig> 6-7 and 8-9?
16:20:16 <MekkiSScreen> 5-6 8-9
16:20:23 <Ballig> oh, right
16:20:26 <Ballig> forgot the 5
16:20:41 <MekkiSScreen> they've stopped making 1-7s, for that exact reason
16:22:09 <Mort-> urgh is it a case of imrpopre preparations?
16:22:16 <Mort-> Im still complilng my shopping list
16:22:18 <Mort-> yes I have a net
16:22:19 <Mort-> though
16:22:28 <Mort-> why is everoone so fond of butterfly nets though
16:22:39 <Mort-> :P
16:22:40 <Mort-> I got a net..
16:22:40 <Mort-> anything just chuck acid/fire
16:23:03 <Mort-> ?
16:23:16 <Avatar> you have to take acid/fire out of your pack, then throw it
16:23:52 <Ballig> what book is the butterfly net in
16:24:05 <Avatar> adventurer's armoury I think
16:24:19 <MekkiSScreen> do you own it, Avatar?
16:24:36 <Avatar> no, but I'll get it eventually
16:24:45 <Ballig> oh I have that one
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16:25:15 <Ballig> I'm not seeing it in there
16:25:48 <Avatar> sorry, APG
16:26:02 <Ballig> ah there, in goods and services
16:26:29 <Ballig> looks like you need proficiency
16:27:34 <Avatar> yeah but it's still ranged touch
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16:28:31 <Mort-> back and counting
16:28:50 <Ballig> touch AC 17 against a swarm of spiders
16:29:18 <Avatar> is it
16:29:21 <Ballig> yeah
16:29:32 <Ballig> touch AC isn't always less
16:31:42 <Mort-> waaahooo
16:31:49 <Mort-> loads of crap
16:31:53 <Mort-> including a cool new butterfly net
16:32:04 <Mort-> any level 1 spells I ma need?
16:32:05 <Mort-> let me see
16:32:28 <Mort-> In Backpack
16:32:28 <Mort-> (5) Candles
16:32:28 <Mort-> (5) Acid Flasks - 5 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Flour - 1 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Rope, Silk (50 ft) - 5 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (5) Oil, lamps - 5lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (5) Paper
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Canvas - 1 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Charcoal
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Wand of Cure Light Wounds (48)
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Climbing Kit - 5 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Grapling Arrow - 1/2 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (5) Alchemist's Fire - 5 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (5) Holy water - 5 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (3) Chalk
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Animal, Horse, Heavy (combat trained)
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Saddlebags (on horse)
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Saddle, military (on horse)
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Cold weather gear - 7 lbs (on horse)
16:32:28 <Mort-> (15) rations - 7.5 lbs (on horse)
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Flint and Steel
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Butterfly net - 2 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Hammer - 2 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (1) Waterskin - 4 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (4) Pitons - 2 lbs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (4) Tindertwigs
16:32:28 <Mort-> (3) Sunrods
16:32:28 <Mort-> (2) Sacks -1 lbs
16:32:30 <Mort-> looks good? :P
16:32:31 <Ballig> spam
16:32:34 <Mort-> or am I a packrat
16:33:14 <Mort-> my str is 19 for carrying purposes right?
16:33:20 <Avatar> keep what's in your horse in a separate section to what you're carrying
16:33:27 <Mort-> muleback cords + msterwork backpack
16:33:32 <Ballig> don't think anything is on her horse anymore
16:33:32 <Mort-> so light weight is 116 lbs?
16:33:35 <Mort-> nah
16:33:38 <Ballig> yeah, 116 lbs
16:33:39 <Mort-> I kept my cold weather gear
16:33:40 <Ballig> you want to stay under that
16:33:42 <Mort-> and my rations
16:33:42 <Mort-> on horse
16:33:46 <Mort-> its 61.5 atm
16:33:49 <Mort-> I have a nice excel sheet
16:33:53 <Mort-> just to calculate my blodoking fking wt
16:34:55 <Thelen> wut
16:35:52 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 11am (new game) | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
16:35:53 <Thelen> !throw 1d20+5 @Avatar
16:36:05 <Avatar> why roll a secret dayjob roll
16:36:13 <Avatar> [17:35] <diebot> Thelen: 1d20+5: [1d20=8] 13
16:36:41 <Ballig> haha
16:38:55 <Mort-> oh waht happens
16:38:58 <Mort-> if you walk wiht your ioun stone
16:39:02 <Mort-> into anti magic field
16:39:07 <Mort-> does it stop lighting?
16:39:48 <Ballig> I'd say so
16:40:36 <Mort-> okay Im notditching my torch and flint and steel then
16:40:40 <Avatar> you talk about antimagic fields a lot, but how often do you see an antimagic field
16:40:40 <Mort-> whats the point of an everburning torch
16:40:44 <Mort-> when you have an ioun stone?
16:40:45 <Mort-> not ever
16:40:53 <Mort-> how about swarms when we never saw one till today
16:40:54 <Mort-> :D
16:40:56 <Mort-> well like me
16:41:05 <Mort-> going you're pranoid and tossing acid at shadows :P
16:41:58 <Ballig> I've seen swarms before
16:41:59 <Ballig> multiple times
16:42:06 <Ballig> it makes perfect sense to be prepared for swarms
16:42:07 <Avatar> yeah be prepared for swarms
16:42:14 <Avatar> ballig is not being paranoid on that one
16:42:15 <Ballig> being prepared for anti-magic fields isn't terrible, but it's not going to come in handy as often
16:42:26 <Ballig> yeah, you saw today that my preparedness is more than justified
16:42:27 <Mort-> I dont see the point of the net
16:42:31 <Mort-> ya but I am prepared too
16:42:33 <Mort-> in my own way..
16:42:37 <Avatar> they're as likely to come up as much as goblins are
16:42:38 <Mort-> (5 jugs of alchemist fire? :P)
16:42:50 <Mort-> this time Im bringing along acid as well
16:42:52 <Mort-> its cheaper to throw
16:45:01 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/general/painlordsWhatToExpectAtAPFSTable&page=1#0
16:45:13 <Avatar> this is a pretty brilliant guide for what you should have
16:45:31 <MekkiSScreen> read Painlord's guide to roleplaying too
16:45:34 <Avatar> everyone should read that, whether you agree with it or not
16:45:39 <MekkiSScreen> agreed
16:45:51 <Avatar> the gear guide I meant
16:45:56 <Avatar> I don't know about the rp one
16:46:52 <Ballig> is that the one that says you should be able to fly by level 5
16:47:07 <Avatar> yeah
16:48:06 <Ballig> I'd still be annoyed if I seriously had to spend 750 gold on a potion to complete an encounter
16:48:06 <Ballig> :p
16:49:18 <Mort-> Im reading
16:49:24 <Thelen> secret cos wasn't sure
16:49:34 <Avatar> yeah but you get annoyed pretty easily
16:49:59 <Ballig> you'd be annoyed too
16:50:00 <Ballig> you can't deny it
16:50:20 <Mort-> I expect you to have a way to deal damage at range: a ranged weapon, scrolls, wand or whatever.
16:50:20 <Mort-> You should have a way to deal with swarms. Of course, alchemist flasks are the easiest, but you may want something else. You know and I know that PFS mods are swarming with swarms...find a solution that fits your character.
16:50:26 <Mort-> I have my bow. got issues? :P
16:50:27 <Avatar> I'd be annoyed if I needed to fly and couldn't because I didn't follow the advice !
16:50:47 <Avatar> your bow can't hit swarms
16:50:59 <Ballig> ha
16:52:19 <Mort-> Caster types: I expect you to have the beginnings of a spellcasting library in scroll form so that you can handle some of the different and random situations that might come up. I expect that you will have a solution to help the party deal with swarms and invisible foes...you are the best equipped to handle them, regardless of your class.
16:52:23 <Mort-> dont be seely
16:52:29 <Mort-> I see a swarm and my alchemist fire flies out
16:52:31 <Mort-> Im trained :P
16:52:36 <Mort-> now I can even throw acid :D
16:53:23 <Thelen> how much money do i makes? :D
16:53:36 <Ballig> a BILLION
16:53:59 <Avatar> mate open up the PFS guide to the day job roll section
16:54:02 <Avatar> there's a table
16:54:06 <Thelen> ah
16:59:52 <Thelen> i can'
17:00:01 <Thelen> t find that, what pdf am i looking for Ballig?
17:00:12 <Ballig> on what
17:00:20 <Thelen> blow jobs
17:00:23 <Thelen> *day
17:00:28 <Ballig> Avatar was the one telling you to look in the guide
17:00:29 <Ballig> :p
17:00:43 <Thelen> yea but he seems in a don't-ask-me-stuff mood :D
17:00:47 <Ballig> haha
17:00:59 <Ballig> it's the pathfinder society guide to organised play
17:01:09 <Ballig> it's page 17
17:01:28 <Thelen> ah don't think i have that
17:01:32 <Thelen> that migt explain it
17:01:33 <Mort-> I om the page
17:01:38 <Mort-> I can read nad paste it out here
17:01:47 <Ballig> you need it
17:01:54 <Ballig> it's free, just download it from paizo.com
17:01:55 <Thelen> yea not sure where it went
17:02:05 <Ballig> Mort-: it's fine, let him get the book
17:03:31 <Thelen> no wonder
17:03:35 <Thelen> its named PZOPSS....
17:03:51 <Ballig> haha
17:03:53 <Ballig> change the name
17:03:56 <Ballig> they always name their files like that
17:04:05 <Thelen> was in wrong directory
17:04:09 <Thelen> now its right
17:07:15 <Mort-> next level
17:07:18 <Mort-> were going otget craft
17:07:19 <Mort-> and appraise
17:07:21 <Mort-> and perception
17:07:22 <Mort-> :D
17:07:43 <Mort-> then I can get a dayjob
17:07:45 <Mort-> crafting
17:07:46 <Hydrazine> Nobody used perception!
17:07:48 <Mort-> fk profession :P
17:07:49 <Mort-> we did
17:07:53 <Mort-> donw here we did
17:07:55 <Mort-> not taht we saw shit
17:07:58 <Mort-> or at least tey saw shit
17:08:00 <Mort-> I didnt see anything
17:08:10 <Hydrazine> I rolled like <10 for all combat.
17:08:57 <Avatar> Hydrazine: did you enjoy the game
17:09:07 <Hydrazine> Yeah, we had a good time.
17:09:21 <Hydrazine> Lord did great for his first tabletop ever.
17:09:32 <Avatar> he listened in our last game
17:09:37 <Avatar> learned from the best probably !
17:09:51 <Avatar> good to see a quick study !
17:09:53 <Hydrazine> Still gotta beat 'help the rogue flank' into him a bit more.
17:10:03 <Hydrazine> but overall, yeah, hes pretty good.
17:10:03 <Avatar> what classes were you all
17:10:20 <Hydrazine> me and Tash were both rogs, Lord's a monk
17:10:25 <Hydrazine> and we had Clericbot assist.
17:10:35 <Mort-> clercibot?
17:10:42 <Avatar> a pregen
17:10:43 <Ballig> a cleric NPC
17:10:49 <Hydrazine> pregen cleric to bring us up to a 4man party.
17:10:50 <Mort-> oh
17:10:56 <Mort-> who played the pregen?
17:10:59 <Hydrazine> uh.
17:11:01 <Hydrazine> we did?
17:11:02 <Mort-> we had no cleric..
17:11:03 <Hydrazine> collective.
17:11:04 <Avatar> 2 rogues would've been handy
17:11:13 <Mort-> we have no rogues
17:11:14 <Mort-> lol
17:11:17 <Ballig> yeah we didn't have a cleric
17:11:18 <Hydrazine> lol.
17:11:19 <Avatar> get yourselves some teamwork feats and you'll be laughing all the way to the bank
17:11:19 <Ballig> we were playing on hardcore mode
17:11:25 <Hydrazine> two rogues is wasted on this party.
17:11:32 <Hydrazine> All shit you can't sneak attack so far.
17:11:32 <Ballig> well, you won't always be in the same group
17:11:36 <Ballig> like what?
17:11:39 <Mort-> I was like the only person who could even sling any spells :P
17:11:40 <Avatar> spoilerz
17:11:42 <Avatar> don't tell us what
17:11:46 <Mort-> that
17:11:48 <Mort-> we had no cleric
17:11:49 <Mort-> no rogue
17:11:50 <Mort-> hahaha
17:11:54 <Mort-> hte only viable caster was me :P
17:12:05 <Ballig> was it undead
17:12:07 <Mort-> live and learn..
17:12:13 <Mort-> there are tons of stuff
17:12:15 <Mort-> that cant be snkeaed
17:12:19 <Mort-> could roll a fwe off my tongue
17:12:20 <Hydrazine> we won't always be in the same party, but chances are me and Tash won't play seperate much.
17:12:34 <Ballig> you can have more than one character
17:12:36 <Mort-> yeah
17:12:36 <Hydrazine> probably wil.
17:12:44 <Hydrazine> Been reading. Alchemists look pretty sweet.
17:12:46 * Mort- imagines, monk or rogue or summoner :P
17:12:49 <Mort-> hahah
17:13:16 <Hydrazine> I love monks, but I'm particularly used to a certain feat set to build them up with.
17:13:24 <Mekkis> I think I could keep playing summoners
17:13:25 <Mekkis> :)
17:13:29 <Hydrazine> and i'm not sure how much of it got left behind in 3.5
17:13:32 <Mort-> haha
17:13:39 <Mekkis> they are just so flexible
17:13:40 <Mort-> or twf ranger :P
17:13:42 Brunius_AFK is now known as Brunius
17:13:44 <Mekkis> you can do ANYTHING with them
17:13:52 <Mekkis> Brunius, did you TPK this morning?
17:13:56 <Avatar> what feat set?
17:13:59 <Mort-> like diplo the shit out of the whole party :P
17:14:04 <Brunius> Nope
17:14:07 <Mekkis> :(
17:14:15 <Hydrazine> particularly elusive target, one of the tartical feats.
17:14:19 <Avatar> Mekkis: :(
17:14:35 <Avatar> if only he TPK'd the new players !
17:14:39 <Hydrazine> hey Brunius, why do your dice hate me so much?
17:14:44 <Avatar> such a wasted opportunity
17:14:45 <Hydrazine> wtf is tpk?
17:14:48 <Brunius> Ballig sent me the script.
17:14:49 <Avatar> total party kill
17:14:50 <Ballig> total party kill
17:14:51 <Mekkis> paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/general/painlordHasAThoughtOnHowToBecomeABetterPlayer
17:14:51 <Hydrazine> ah.
17:14:52 <Brunius> It's Ballig's fault
17:14:56 <Hydrazine> pssh. We barely even took damage.
17:14:57 <Brunius> Total party kill
17:15:04 <Mekkis> Brunius, you didn't use diebot?
17:15:05 <Ballig> Brunius: PM
17:15:11 <Ballig> Diebot wasn't in the channel
17:15:14 <Brunius> Couldn't, we were in a different channel
17:15:15 <Ballig> we had to run two games simultaneously
17:15:15 <Mort-> urm
17:15:16 <Mort-> we really ran in
17:15:17 <Mekkis> you can invite him
17:15:20 <Mort-> wihotut a scratch :P
17:15:25 <Mort-> well I barely got nicked
17:15:28 <Mekkis> Roleplaying Ability: To be a topnotch player in this game, you have got to be able to roleplay. I don't mean having to talk in a funny voice or dress up in costume, but the ability to build a character and a concept then be able to enact that concept at the table. This game isn't about playing you, but playing the character. It's about reacting to situations as your character might react. It's about creating an interesting play concept then bringin
17:15:28 <Mekkis> g that into the PFS module. You know what? Roleplaying becomes easier and funner the more roleplayers you have at the table. And when the judge can handle and magnify it as well, the game becomes much more fun. Being about to bounce off other characters and their personalities is a key ingredient. Luckily, the ability to roleplay effectively can be learned...but this is the toughest PFS skill to master.
17:15:30 <Mort-> and I took it worse in the etnire party
17:15:44 <Hydrazine> it looks like twf is stronger in pfs than 3.5.
17:16:26 <Hydrazine> Classy stuff, Mekkis.
17:16:41 <Hydrazine> I think, one of the most fun games I ever had, involved some intentional party design.
17:16:51 <Mekkis> brb, shopping, driving, and going home
18:32:29 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 11am (new game) | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
18:32:29 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Jan 19 16:34:11 2012
18:32:34 <Brunius> Yes
18:32:48 <Mekkis> Brunius,
18:32:54 <Brunius> Mekkis,
18:32:55 <Mort-> so this one means I use my vial of alchemist fire as focus? and I get + 1 to attack roll? but I dont lose it?
18:33:01 <Brunius> Yep
18:33:26 <Ballig> Mort-: right
18:33:31 <Mort-> Acid Splash (F): The spell deals +1 point of damage.
18:33:32 <Mort-> excellent
18:33:36 <Mort-> so now with my newly found acid
18:33:47 <Mort-> people aregoing to find more acid splashes flying around then usual
18:34:02 <Mort-> 1d4 instead of 1d3..
18:34:56 <Mekkis> 1d3+1 isn't it>
18:34:57 <Mekkis> ?
18:35:14 <Ballig> it's 1d3+1
18:37:03 <Mort-> yeah
18:37:07 <Mort-> so its cool
18:37:09 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/snapdragon-fireworks
18:37:11 <Mort-> this one would work on swarms?
18:37:17 <Mort-> but isnt it better to uhrm...
18:37:52 <Mort-> just use burning hands and be done with it:P
18:38:18 <Mort-> 1d4..>.<
18:38:53 <Ballig> not good enough for a level 1 spell
18:40:04 <Mort-> Id probably just use burning hands if I had the ablity to choose
18:40:09 <Mort-> it wont be my first time..
18:40:13 * Mort- thinks about poog
18:45:33 <Mort-> nothing to deal with invis atm
18:45:36 <Mort-> ah wells
18:46:46 <Ballig> you will get something next level
18:46:48 <Ballig> glitterdust
18:47:17 <Mort-> I know
18:47:20 <Mort-> I will bring scrolls
18:47:22 <Mort-> about 5 of them :D
18:47:23 <Mort-> bwhahhaha
18:47:30 <Ballig> level 2 spell scrolls are expensive
18:47:30 <Mort-> I believe in going around prepared
18:47:33 <Mort-> how much?
18:47:35 <Mort-> maybe 2 then :P
18:47:45 <Mort-> Im not memming my level 2 spell....glitterdust?
18:47:52 <Ballig> 150 gold
18:48:13 <Ballig> so you would be spending 750 gold on glitterdust scrolls
18:48:23 * Mort- groans
18:48:24 <Mort-> hahaha
18:48:27 <Mort-> 2 scrolls :P
18:48:31 <Mort-> I wanted a gust of wind scroll too
18:48:36 <Mort-> in case of stinking clouds.
18:48:45 <Ballig> I've seen maybe two ever :p
18:48:54 <Mort-> you just saw one today
18:48:57 <Mort-> or obscuring mist
18:48:58 <Mort-> stuff like that
18:49:01 <Ballig> yeah
18:49:03 <Ballig> I've seen two ever
18:49:04 <Mort-> I dont like using obscuringmist because
18:49:06 <Mort-> ah
18:49:14 <Mort-> I cant trust my party to stay in the mist area
18:49:25 <Mort-> I would stand still, as long as I like
18:49:31 <Mort-> but so far all the fights I see have been slash and run types
18:49:35 <Mort-> the party never stays still
18:49:51 <Ballig> you can't see them as much as they can't see you
18:50:02 <Ballig> it has its uses, but it's not just a "I can't be bothered casting anything else, I'll do obscuring mist"
18:50:49 <Mort-> oh my god
18:50:53 <Mort-> I have UMD as class skill
18:50:54 <Mort-> my trait..
18:50:56 <Mort-> I didnt realise
18:51:00 <Mort-> I just thought itwas funny
18:51:04 <Mort-> and for RP purposes
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18:53:49 <Ballig> you missed two sweet games of PFS today Spaceshot
18:54:44 <Mort-> okay
18:54:47 <Mort-> now how the fk
18:54:51 <Mort-> do you use magic device
18:54:56 <Mort-> since apparently I have the ablilty to use it..
18:55:00 <Mort-> means Ican heal myself..
18:55:01 <Mort-> wow
18:55:17 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+umd skill?
18:55:18 <diebot> Mort-, skill?: [1d20=14] 14
18:55:41 <Mort-> so I have a wand of cure light wounds, I try to use it
18:55:50 <Mort-> (of course atm, I dont have ranks in use magic device)
18:56:08 <Ballig> you'd have to get a 20
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18:57:23 <Mort-> ah I see
18:57:25 <Mort-> out of combat
18:57:32 <Mort-> can I roll as many times as I like just to urmmmmm heal? :P
18:57:44 <Mort-> oh wait if I roll a natural one Im fked for 24 hr :P
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18:58:47 <Mort-> god I didnt knwo my character could be played ot cast almost every damn thing under the sun
18:58:50 <Mort-> pity my charisma is kinda low
19:01:44 <Mort-> In addition, each class has a number of favored skills, called class skills.
19:01:46 <Mort-> so
19:02:03 <Ballig> you can put ranks in a skill that isn't a class skill
19:02:11 <Ballig> it's just that if it is a class skill and you put a rank in it, you get a +3 bonus to that skill
19:02:20 <Mort-> Benefit: You gain a +1 bonus on Use Magic Device checks, and Use Magic Device is always a class skill for you.
19:02:22 <Mort-> it is for me
19:02:23 <Mort-> acutally
19:02:31 <Mort-> so I can get it at 1 skill point per level
19:02:36 <Mort-> wow it means i can acutally UMD pretty dcently
19:02:37 <Ballig> right
19:02:38 <Mort-> maybe
19:02:46 <Mort-> my trait
19:02:46 <Mort-> wow
19:02:51 <Mort-> it means I dont need to give my wand to someone else
19:02:54 <Mort-> I can heal msyelf?
19:02:55 <Mort-> wow
19:03:02 <Mort-> oh man I iddnt know i had so many surprises
19:03:15 <Mort-> next level up..
19:03:35 <Mort-> when I roll umd its 1d20?
19:03:40 <Mort-> + whatever UMD skill I wll have?
19:03:47 <Mort-> which will be like 4?
19:03:57 <Mort-> due ot trait + skill points in it
19:04:06 <Ballig> if you put a rank in it, it'll be +5
19:04:11 <Ballig> +1 rank, +3 class, +1 trait
19:04:11 <Mort-> +4?
19:04:15 <Mort-> ah yes
19:04:17 <Mort-> so +5
19:04:20 <Mort-> so 1d20+5
19:04:21 <Mort-> on to it
19:04:22 <Mort-> wow
19:04:23 <Mort-> my god
19:04:29 <Mort-> it means I can function as a cleric in a way?
19:04:42 <Ballig> you would have just over 25% chance to use a wand
19:04:46 <Mort-> yeah
19:04:48 <Mort-> but itll increase
19:04:51 <Mort-> as I levle up..
19:05:02 <Mort-> and out of combat casting
19:05:04 <Ballig> 30%
19:05:06 <Mort-> what happens as it goes along?
19:05:16 <Mort-> can I just keep tring till I can finger that seely wand?
19:05:20 <Ballig> it will go up by 5% each rank you put into it
19:05:21 <Mort-> say after a fight
19:05:24 <Mort-> I try to cure light wounds
19:05:25 <Ballig> when you level up you can actually put 3 ranks into it
19:05:26 <Mort-> on myself
19:05:29 <Ballig> because you can have as many ranks as levels
19:05:32 <Mort-> yeah I know
19:05:33 <Mort-> I will
19:05:37 <Ballig> so it'll be +7
19:05:48 <Mort-> yep which sounds pretty fking cool
19:05:51 <Ballig> 40% chance
19:05:55 <Mort-> yes
19:05:56 <Mort-> id roll it
19:05:57 <Mort-> haha
19:06:13 <Mort-> so what happens if I touch a divine wand
19:06:21 <Ballig> hm?
19:06:43 <Mort-> Emulate a class feature
19:06:46 <Mort-> do I use emulate class feature
19:06:51 <Mort-> or emulate wand
19:06:58 <Mort-> like the wand of cure light wounds
19:07:01 <Mort-> its a divine thing
19:07:04 <Mort-> 40% wow
19:07:07 <Mort-> oh my gawd...
19:07:10 <Mort-> someone gimme some charisma buffs
19:07:12 <Mort-> and I can go..
19:07:12 <Mekkis> you use the "use a wand" thing
19:07:16 <Mort-> okay
19:07:24 <Mort-> my god that means I can be cleric..
19:07:27 <Mort-> totally freaking awesome
19:08:04 <Mekkis> Mort-, what deity does your character revere?
19:08:15 <Mort-> Im agnostic
19:08:25 <Mekkis> fair enough, I guess
19:08:25 <Mort-> Im a wizard, I believe in my will, over theirs
19:08:29 <Mekkis> you can't be a cleric then
19:08:30 <Mort-> not a bloody diety
19:08:30 <Mekkis> :)
19:08:33 <Mort-> I cant
19:08:36 <Mort-> but I can act like a cleric
19:08:38 <Mort-> :D
19:08:48 <Ballig> where does your wizard think the healing comes from
19:08:54 <Mort-> urm a nice pool of energy
19:08:56 <Mort-> the stick duhhs
19:09:03 <Mekkis> the positive ions in the wand :)
19:09:08 <Mort-> I beieve there is ambient life energy
19:09:09 <Mort-> all around
19:09:09 <Mort-> us
19:09:11 <Mekkis> they flow out into the person :)
19:09:12 <Mort-> just need to channel it :D
19:09:14 <Ballig> ha
19:09:17 <Ballig> the healing comes from science?
19:09:19 <Mort-> so if stick helps me
19:09:23 <Mort-> channel +ve energy
19:09:24 <Mort-> Id use it
19:09:26 <Mekkis> if you rub the stick on cat fur....
19:09:31 <Mekkis> or weasel fur...
19:09:37 <Mort-> No
19:09:50 <Mort-> socks doesnt like sticks on her
19:09:57 <Mort-> but Ive played catch with a stick, not the wand though
19:10:02 <Mort-> I dont want any accidents happening
19:10:04 <Mort-> me and socks :)
19:10:07 <Mekkis> what's your wand made out of?
19:10:16 <Mort-> what a cure light wounds wandi s made of
19:10:18 <Mort-> thats the only wand I have
19:10:22 <Mekkis> wood?
19:10:24 <Mekkis> metal?
19:10:24 <Mort-> quarterstaff, lets just say oak
19:10:26 <Mekkis> glass?
19:10:29 <Mort-> probably wood
19:10:34 <Mekkis> you get to choose...
19:10:36 <Mort-> thats what most cure light wounds wands are made off I thought?
19:10:37 <Mekkis> irradium?
19:10:38 <Mort-> wood
19:10:40 <Mekkis> uranium
19:10:41 <Mort-> keep it simple
19:11:14 <Mort-> glass wands are cool
19:11:24 <Mekkis> Mort-, have you played nethack?
19:11:25 <Mort-> but the next time someone tripped me it might break :(
19:11:28 <Mort-> nope
19:11:57 <Ballig> write in the dust with it
19:12:26 <Mekkis> engrave "Elbereth" with it
19:13:05 <Ballig> ha
19:13:43 <Mort-> oh man
19:13:47 <Mort-> Im already planning my next level up
19:13:52 <Mort-> conveniently its next scenario :D
19:15:03 <Mekkis> did Brunius run First Steps 2?
19:15:22 <Mort-> is there craft in pathfinder?
19:15:23 <Mort-> yes right?
19:15:24 <Hydrazine> I think so?
19:15:26 <Mort-> as in craft
19:15:29 <Brunius> I ran half of it
19:15:34 <Mekkis> it's a dayjob thing
19:15:35 <Mort-> and who ran the other half
19:15:37 <Mort-> yeah
19:15:42 <Mort-> k I want to get it
19:15:44 <Mort-> so Ican acutally get a job
19:15:46 <Mekkis> when will you run it next?
19:15:48 <Mort-> though I see no reaosn..
19:15:51 <Brunius> I'm gonna run the other half tomorrow if tashes is around
19:15:53 <Mort-> why cant I...
19:16:02 <Mort-> serve as a scribe. I mean I am the uber wizad
19:16:09 <Mort-> and I cant even get a job..when Im not adventuring
19:16:21 <Mekkis> I think you can, you need to spend prestige on the correct vanity
19:16:22 <Mort-> I think Ill build mort to be some kind of loremaster and exotics solution specialist
19:16:23 <Hydrazine> its the damn recession!
19:16:28 <Mort-> haha
19:16:45 <Mekkis> I want to run Before The Dawn 1 next Saturday
19:17:11 <Mort-> I will not look
19:17:49 <Mekkis> it's set in Bloodcove
19:17:54 <Mekkis> in the Mwangi expanse
19:18:22 <Mort-> I feel a lil closer to my character now but oh man
19:18:27 <Mort-> I dindt realise I had that much untapped potential
19:18:28 <Mekkis> feel free to read up on the area
19:18:30 <Mort-> fk it I .. :(
19:18:34 <Mort-> human foes
19:18:38 <Mort-> bloodcove smells of.
19:18:39 <Mort-> pyrates :D
19:18:54 <Mekkis> http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodcove
19:19:22 <Mort-> oh my god, I didnt realise my character had so much hidden potential :P
19:20:03 <Mort-> Use a scroll 20 + caster level
19:20:05 <Mort-> thats hard though
19:20:06 <Mort-> argh
19:20:20 <Mekkis> if it's on your spell list, you don't need to use UMD
19:20:24 <Mort-> no
19:20:29 <Mort-> I intend to be able
19:20:32 <Mort-> to cast every spell
19:20:35 <Mort-> under the sun
19:20:41 <Mort-> as I become uberer!
19:20:53 <Mort-> and I can do it too..
19:20:59 <Mekkis> wizard/cleric/mystic theurge?
19:21:00 <Mort-> UMD rox my sox
19:21:27 <Mort-> no
19:21:29 <Mort-> Ill be a pure wizar
19:21:30 <Mort-> d
19:21:33 <Mort-> use UMD to use naything
19:21:34 <Mort-> hahhaha
19:21:52 <Mort-> my character is more utility rather then combat based..
19:22:11 <Mekkis> Mort-, you realise that Socks can use your character's UMD ranks?
19:22:46 <Mort-> Emulate a Class Feature: Sometimes you need to use a class feature to activate a magic item. In this case, your effective level in the emulated class equals your Use Magic Device check result minus 20. This skill does not let you actually use the class feature of another class. It just lets you activate items as if you had that class feature. If the class whose feature you are emulating has an
19:22:46 <Mort-> alignment requirement, you must meet it, either honestly or by emulating an appropriate alignment with a separate Use Magic Device check (see above).
19:22:50 <Mort-> yeah
19:22:53 <Mort-> how is socks going to cast?
19:22:57 <Mort-> paws?
19:23:31 <Mekkis> yeah
19:23:38 <Mort-> socks has epic fail charisma though
19:23:45 <Mekkis> like the cat with the sniper rifle
19:24:20 <Mort-> no I only have a 40% chance of getting things right
19:24:22 <Mort-> socks will fk up even worse
19:24:28 <Mekkis> yeah
19:24:40 <Mekkis> but it's Socks who's making the actions, not your character
19:25:01 <Mekkis> so your character can be casting magic missile while Socks tries to activate your CLW wand
19:25:19 <Mekkis> in the one turn
19:25:32 <Brunius> The cat with the sniper rifle
19:25:38 <Brunius> The only answer to bear cavalry
19:26:02 <Brunius> http://c.cslacker.com/2457l.jpg
19:26:04 <Mort-> urm I rather socks tries to cast magic missile
19:26:12 <Mort-> and I play around with the CLW wand
19:26:18 <Mort-> but socks and I are on the same spot?
19:26:26 <Mort-> becuase she sits in my outfit?
19:26:35 <Mort-> lets have a look at familiars
19:26:47 <Mort-> I think there are some things I didnt know
19:27:17 <Mort-> nope
19:27:21 <Mort-> socks is going to cast magic missile
19:27:25 <Mort-> and Im going to fiddle with the wand
19:27:26 <Mort-> haha
19:27:30 <Mort-> wrong order
19:30:23 <Mort-> Share Spells: The wizard may cast a spell with a target of “You” on his familiar (as a touch spell) instead of on himself. A wizard may cast spells on his familiar even if the spells do not normally affect creatures of the familiar's type (magical beast).
19:30:25 <Mort-> is it this one?
19:32:38 <Hydrazine> What about it?
19:32:57 <Mort-> can I get socks to deliver magic missiles?
19:33:00 <Mort-> why I try fiddle with the wand?
19:33:04 <Mort-> from my spell list?
19:33:41 <Mort-> Skills: For each skill in which either the master or the familiar has ranks, use either the normal skill ranks for an animal of that type or the master's skill ranks, whichever is better. In either case, the familiar uses its own ability modifiers. Regardless of a familiar's total skill modifiers, some skills may remain beyond the familiar's ability to use. Familiars treat Acrobatics, Climb, Fly,
19:33:41 <Mort-> Perception, Stealth, and Swim as class skills.
19:33:41 <Mort-> hrm
19:33:52 <Mort-> interseting which means my climb would be allot better
19:34:10 <Mort-> and my acrobatics would be up the fking roof
19:35:28 <Mort-> is that right?
19:35:51 <Mort-> or wait
19:36:00 <Mort-> its familiar only it doesnt spread to me?
19:36:27 <Hydrazine> Right.
19:36:41 <Hydrazine> It can gain stuff from you. Not exactly the other way around.
19:36:57 <Hydrazine> Theres some benefit to you based on familiar type, but its not as far-reaching as that above.
19:37:21 <Hydrazine> The overall is your familiar is alot more capable than generic animal.
19:37:22 <Mort-> ah k
19:37:28 <Mort-> so my familar is pretty smart >.<
19:37:33 <Mort-> and could proabbly tell you about nobility..
19:37:37 <Mort-> if you understand weasel that is
19:38:21 <Hydrazine> so does this mean your familiar can use magic device?
19:38:25 <Mort-> yes
19:38:28 <Mort-> but since I am fked up at UMD
19:38:36 <Mort-> I wouldnt even let my familar try it thank you
19:38:45 <Mort-> even after I levle up I have a 40% chance of using a wand
19:38:51 <Mort-> my familar has charisma 3 points less then my own
19:38:57 <Hydrazine> ah.
19:39:02 <Hydrazine> Yeah, not good then.
19:39:04 <Mort-> so I sure as hell wouldnt be giving her a wand to play with
19:39:05 <Hydrazine> Get a rogue to do it.
19:39:08 <Mort-> nah
19:39:11 <Mort-> once Im fully covered
19:39:14 <Mort-> Im as good as any rogue
19:39:16 <Mort-> maybe even better
19:39:20 <Mort-> rogues arent known for charisma
19:39:23 <Hydrazine> my level 1 rog can UMD at +7.
19:39:26 <Mort-> and I have more skillpoints then most rogues
19:39:29 <Mort-> I have UMD +4
19:39:30 <Mort-> :P
19:39:41 <Mort-> once I start learning
19:39:42 <Hydrazine> I got 13.
19:39:44 <Mort-> ah
19:39:49 <Hydrazine> skills.
19:39:49 <Mort-> but well I think Ill put some poitns into it
19:40:48 <Mort-> Emulate an Ability Score: To cast a spell from a scroll, you need a high score in the appropriate ability (Intelligence for wizard spells, Wisdom for divine spells, or Charisma for sorcerer or bard spells). Your effective ability score (appropriate to the class you're emulating when you try to cast the spell from the scroll) is your Use Magic Device check result minus 15. If you already have a
19:40:48 <Mort-> high enough score in the appropriate ability, you don't need to make this check.
19:40:51 <Mort-> mignt not work too well
19:40:52 <Hydrazine> but it looks way more profitable-combat wise to have clone rogs and work on teamwork feats.
19:41:01 <Mort-> how did you get +7 for UMD
19:41:04 <Mort-> I thought mine was prety decent
19:41:09 <Mort-> considering I have no cha mods
19:41:17 <Hydrazine> +3cha.
19:42:10 <Mort-> ah k
19:42:16 <Mort-> mine is class skill and trait
19:42:18 <Hydrazine> very charismatic rogue.
19:42:20 <Mort-> so +4 total
19:42:24 <Mort-> Im untrained
19:42:29 <Mort-> I iddnt evne realise I had the potetial
19:42:30 <Mort-> till this level
19:42:33 <Mort-> but I cant make use of it
19:42:35 <Mort-> till I levle up
19:42:41 <Mort-> level 3...
19:42:42 <Hydrazine> you don't get the extra 3 without spending ranks in.
19:42:45 <Mort-> I know
19:42:47 <Mort-> so atm Icannot UMD
19:42:52 <Hydrazine> lol.
19:42:52 <Mort-> its after I level up
19:42:54 <Mort-> then I can
19:42:56 <Mort-> I didnt kow
19:43:03 <Hydrazine> I'm really not used to playing level 1s.
19:43:03 <Mort-> but anwyay 40% on UMD is still prety shitty
19:43:07 <Mort-> why?
19:43:09 <Mort-> too wimpy?
19:43:23 <Hydrazine> Eh. Just habit with my old gang, I guess.
19:43:26 <Mort-> it means Ill never really get
19:43:30 <Mort-> to get perfect casting
19:43:31 <Mort-> damn
19:43:33 <Mort-> mods too low
19:43:41 <Hydrazine> We spent a good bit of time in future d20 games.
19:43:45 <Mort-> ah k
19:43:46 <Mort-> haha
19:43:49 <Mort-> Im a fantasy fan so..
19:43:51 <Mort-> not that type
19:43:58 <Hydrazine> Where you almost have to start with a few levels, because the base damages areso damn high.
19:44:05 <Mort-> ah okay
19:44:12 <Hydrazine> one shots all around if you start at level 1.
19:44:20 <Mort-> lol
19:44:30 <Mort-> let me think if I had known right form the start maybe more points into charisma?
19:44:31 <Mort-> hrm
19:44:59 <Hydrazine> I hope I can find some use for my rog's particular skills.
19:45:07 <Mort-> say at the very end even if I was putting all my poitns into UMD..
19:45:10 <Mort-> 12+4
19:45:19 <Mort-> = 80% of trying ot fake the spell off a wand
19:45:30 <Hydrazine> So far we've got alot of combat on things I can't even sneak attack.
19:46:25 <Mort-> I never played a rogue
19:46:28 <Mort-> on comp easier to sneak
19:46:32 <Mort-> ifyou vs undead nothing to sneak de
19:47:19 <Mort-> ah damn
19:47:21 <Mort-> if I had known
19:47:26 <Mort-> I could use magic device that well
19:47:33 <Mort-> maybe I would have put some poitns into charisma at creation
19:47:41 <Mort-> butagain I put into charisma what would I have taken it out of?
19:47:42 <Mort-> dex?
19:47:43 <Mort-> int?
19:47:45 <Mort-> both I need
19:47:51 <Mort-> cons..my hp low enouugh as it is
19:48:11 <Hydrazine> caster? what do you need dex for?
19:49:18 <Mort-> ranged touch
19:49:20 <Mort-> based on dex btw
19:49:27 <Mort-> + your initial ac
19:49:34 <Mort-> think ray of frost
19:49:35 <Mort-> sorchign ray
19:49:44 <Mort-> besides as caster you spend mostof the time fiddling with your bow in combat
19:51:02 <Hydrazine> ah, right.
19:51:11 <Hydrazine> strength?
19:51:58 <Mort-> 10
19:52:01 <Mort-> dont worry I didnt put anything
19:52:05 <Mort-> nor remove anything
19:52:08 <Mort-> I dislike negative stats
19:52:12 <Mort-> they biet you in the back someday
19:52:30 <Mort-> only thing I can think of to drop
19:52:32 <Mort-> is constitution
19:52:34 <Mort-> and that is risky
19:52:37 <Mort-> 12 for cons is abit low
19:54:47 <Hydrazine> find yourself some throwing clubs.
19:55:46 <Mort-> for what?
19:55:49 <Mort-> I use a lowbow
19:55:50 <Mort-> longbow
19:56:12 <Hydrazine> I think I like the lowbow better
19:56:35 <Hydrazine> Is that where you give the poor bastards an arrow to the knee?
19:56:41 <Mort-> hahaa
19:56:46 <Mort-> longbow
19:56:54 <Mort-> if people get close I take out my longsword and melee
19:57:07 <Mort-> my prefered attack mode is range though
19:57:11 <Mort-> definitely range
19:57:17 <Hydrazine> ain't longswords martial?
19:57:38 <Mort-> Im elf
19:57:38 <Mort-> :)
19:57:41 <Hydrazine> ah.
19:57:41 * Mort- laughs
19:57:46 <Mort-> who told you I was human
19:58:02 <Hydrazine> Nobody told me shit. I just didn't think wizards had martial weapon profs.
19:58:03 <Mort-> how do you think I can use both longbow and longsword..
19:58:06 <Mort-> hehee
19:58:09 <Mort-> Im elf
19:59:09 <Mort-> elves make good wizzies
19:59:32 <Hydrazine> Ihad me an OP as shit elf monk once.
20:00:19 <Mort-> heh
20:00:21 <Mort-> dex/str?
20:00:24 <Mort-> I alwyas had the problem wit monks
20:00:31 <Mort-> because you have to spread over str/dex/wis/cons
20:00:37 <Mort-> how to allocate stats
20:03:08 <Mort-> k so I need to figure out how to do my skills
20:03:11 <Mort-> UMD +3.
20:04:29 <Hydrazine> i focused on dex and wis and had some tanky ac.
20:04:43 <Hydrazine> and got feats later on to not get grapped.
20:04:44 <Ballig> my cavalier has some tanky ac
20:05:06 <Hydrazine> because it became a problem. DM went to grappling me since i didn't get hit much.
20:05:11 <Ballig> ha
20:05:32 <Hydrazine> great 3.5 feat, close quarters fighting.
20:05:47 <Hydrazine> someone tries to grapple you, kick em in the face. add the damage to your roll to not get grapped.
20:09:07 <Mort-> ballig I can get my familar to deliver a touch spell correct?
20:09:10 <Mort-> so who gets the AOO
20:09:12 <Mort-> at level
20:09:13 <Mort-> 3
20:09:21 <Mort-> I cast the touch spell, get my familar to deliver it
20:09:32 <Ballig> you for casting it
20:09:33 <Mort-> then, do I get ot cast another spell that round?
20:09:33 <Mort-> or nope
20:09:40 <Ballig> if an opponent threatens you while you cast it
20:09:42 <Mort-> okay
20:09:51 <Mort-> so I eat the aoo and my familiar can fiddle iwth the stuffs
20:10:01 <Mort-> then what happesn in out of ocmbat situations for trying tocastcure light wounds :P
20:10:08 <Mort-> if Iplay around with UMD happily
20:11:21 <Mort-> of course I havent got a single point in it atm
20:11:24 <Mort-> but soons
20:13:31 <Mort-> lets do some crap runs
20:13:40 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7
20:13:41 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+7: [1d20=14] 21
20:13:45 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7
20:13:46 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+7: [1d20=19] 26
20:13:50 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7
20:13:51 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+7: [1d20=12] 19
20:13:55 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7
20:13:56 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+7: [1d20=4] 11
20:13:57 <Mort-> hrm
20:13:58 <Mort-> lol
20:14:06 <Ballig> 50% based on that small sample
20:14:23 <Mort-> yeah
20:14:29 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7
20:14:29 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+7: [1d20=5] 12
20:14:34 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7
20:14:34 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+7: [1d20=4] 11
20:14:38 <Mort-> epic
20:14:47 <Mort-> I sure as hell shouldnt try it in combat
20:15:27 <Mort-> realised at best I will get a 80% sucess rate
20:15:29 <Mort-> even at 12
20:40:10 <Brunius> Put more ranks into it
20:40:12 <Brunius> nao
20:42:12 <Hydrazine> consider a magic item to boost skill ranks?
20:42:27 <Hydrazine> as far as magic items go, its about as cheap as they come.
20:44:36 <Hydrazine> base table prices comes to bonus ^2 x100gp
20:45:02 <Hydrazine> so.. +4 umd magic item would be 1600
20:46:02 <Ballig> can't custom make it in PFS though
20:46:26 <Hydrazine> Not talking about any character making it specifically.
20:47:10 <Hydrazine> This is just determining street price to have it made. Or does PFS not allow purchase of specific magic items at all?
20:47:25 <Mort-> no wys its bloody expensive
20:47:28 <Ballig> it does, but you have to find the magic item that gives +UMD
20:47:36 <Ballig> I've never seen one I don't think
20:47:49 <Mort-> unless I get charisma items
20:47:53 <Mort-> which arel ike 2k gp per piece
20:47:58 <Mort-> I tell you Idruther boost my int
20:48:00 <Mort-> or dex
20:48:21 <Ballig> 4k
20:48:27 <Mort-> oh 4k
20:48:27 <Mort-> ahaha
20:51:12 <Hydrazine> Where does the book talk about potions and wands in detail?
20:55:06 <Ballig> define detail
20:55:12 <Ballig> there is a Magic Items chapter near the back
20:56:21 <Hydrazine> So there isn't anywhere that lists potions and wands and prices for such?
20:56:33 <Mort-> level 1 wand
20:56:34 <Mort-> 750 gp
20:56:36 <Ballig> there aren't unique prices for each
20:56:38 <Mort-> acutally there is a way..
20:56:48 <Mort-> I take improved familar feat(which I would anyway...)
20:56:52 <Mort-> but what do improved familiars add
20:56:56 <Mort-> to your stats
20:56:59 <Ballig> level 1 potions are 50 gold, level 2 ones are 300 gold, level 3 potions are 750 gold
20:57:03 <Mort-> familars we al know what they do
20:57:05 <Mort-> but improved ones?
20:57:12 <Mort-> like weasel adds 3 to reflex save
20:57:16 <Ballig> anyway, it's a table for each, in the magic items section
20:57:19 <Mort-> Ill probalby be getting some nice air mephit
20:57:21 <Mort-> later in game
20:57:26 <Hydrazine> thats the same table i'm talking about, Ballig.
20:57:38 <Ballig> yeah
20:57:41 <Ballig> magic items section
20:57:57 <Hydrazine> Magic item price for random object of + some skill costs this much.
20:58:11 <Mort-> u need to get hte item name
20:58:16 <Ballig> that's not the table
20:58:17 <Mort-> in the magic items
20:58:20 <Mort-> cant custom create..
20:58:37 <Ballig> page 478, table 15-12 "Potions"
20:58:40 <Ballig> is the potions cost
20:59:39 <Mort-> any stats on improved familiars?
20:59:43 <Mort-> as in what they give their masters?
20:59:48 <Mort-> familiars we all know, improved ones?
21:00:27 <tristen> hey, er, i read somewhere i can increase an ability at level 4, but i can't find it again...
21:00:31 <tristen> is that true?
21:00:41 <Ballig> tristen: it's in the "level benefits" table
21:00:54 <tristen> hot damn ballig on teh ball cheers
21:01:08 <Ballig> page 30
21:02:18 <Mort-> hm
21:02:40 <Mort-> what hapepns if I clal my familiar with a +2 mod to his charisma to fiddle with wand
21:02:49 <Mort-> does he take my class skill bonus + uMD traits ?
21:02:52 <tristen> also: i think i've made a good choice of 1st level spell: endure elements (24hrs)
21:02:53 <Mort-> or just the ranks
21:03:10 <Ballig> ha
21:03:13 <Ballig> how many spells do you know
21:03:19 <tristen> jus 1
21:03:21 <Hydrazine> I think it gets total skill mod
21:03:24 <Ballig> you can cast one a day
21:03:25 <Hydrazine> but i'm not entirely sure.
21:03:26 <Ballig> but how many do you know
21:03:47 <Ballig> ah they're divine, you know all of them
21:03:55 <tristen> well, er, dunno
21:03:58 <tristen> ok
21:04:14 <tristen> divine? i prefer to think of them as simply divine. oooh
21:04:17 <Ballig> you can choose a different spell to prepare every day
21:04:31 <tristen> most of em are crappola
21:04:40 <Hydrazine> I'm okay with divine spellcasters.
21:04:51 <Ballig> when do you get your animal companion
21:04:54 <Mort-> endure elements...
21:04:59 <tristen> now if i want
21:05:14 <Mort-> I dunno, rahter wear hot/cold weather gear I gguess
21:05:16 <Mort-> but..
21:05:23 <Hydrazine> if you're a positive energy cleric, you got cure spells available. all the time. you can always do whats expected.
21:05:38 <tristen> or i can do something about giving colleagues a short bonus against undead (my favoured enemy)
21:05:42 <Hydrazine> i play a wizard, spells per day never match the session events. ever.
21:06:05 <Mort-> they dont
21:06:07 <Mort-> thats the truth
21:06:14 <Mort-> Im a fking wizard
21:06:15 <tristen> "mage armour"
21:06:20 <Mort-> but the point is I have...
21:06:22 <Mort-> more options then spells
21:06:26 <Mort-> beleive me I do.
21:06:42 <Mort-> Im not all about spells
21:06:54 <Ballig> have you used favoured enemy often enough to make that option worthwhile
21:07:25 <tristen> it's less of a pain in the arse than having a pet
21:07:38 <Ballig> you could have a wolf
21:07:40 <tristen> i want a shark :)
21:07:41 <Ballig> like Bobbob !!
21:07:44 <Mort-> hahaha
21:07:46 <Mort-> I like wolves
21:08:06 <tristen> JAWS XVII
21:08:23 <tristen> (or whatever they're up to)
21:08:27 <Ballig> I just like wolves for the trip
21:08:37 <tristen> yeah ranger/wolf makes perfect sense
21:08:48 <tristen> i'll hum and ha about it for a bit...
21:08:59 <Hydrazine> get the shark
21:09:01 <Hydrazine> you know you want to.
21:09:09 <tristen> hot damn i do
21:09:12 <Mort-> yeah
21:09:16 <Mort-> and how are you going to bring him into the city?
21:09:21 <Mort-> he grows legs and lungs?
21:09:26 <Hydrazine> big ass bowl.
21:09:28 <tristen> i'll purchase it a bicycle of course
21:09:33 <Brunius> He's a land shark Mort-
21:09:38 <Mort-> Tristen, we have an abandoned graveyard we'd like to check out
21:09:38 <Ballig> my wolf is sometimes useful in finishing off a foe
21:09:42 <Mort-> hows sharkie going to get there?
21:09:44 <Mort-> yeah I noticed
21:09:50 <tristen> i dig graves (drumroll)
21:09:51 <Mort-> your wolf did hte fighting in the last battle not you :P
21:09:55 <Ballig> but I mostly like using him to pull foes down onto the ground and make them waste an action standing up
21:09:57 <Ballig> and provoking an AOO
21:10:05 <Mort-> hes cute
21:10:06 <Mort-> really
21:10:11 <tristen> aye that works well
21:10:12 <Ballig> hey, I killed one of those dretches before they attacked Tasiv
21:10:19 <Hydrazine> Get shark a big ass bowl, on a wheels. pulled by six black horse.
21:10:27 <Mort-> then you spent the rest of the fight puking :P
21:10:31 <tristen> correction: before it killed tasiv
21:10:33 <Mort-> see? no stomach for combat..
21:10:41 <Ballig> there was a 5% chance of me failing that save :p
21:10:48 <Mort-> but you fked it up anyway
21:10:56 <Ballig> luck of the dice
21:11:23 <Mort-> yeah I should stop laughing
21:11:28 <Mort-> now..
21:11:35 <Mort-> like the part I was laughing at you throwing acid at shadows
21:11:47 <Ballig> yeah, sure made you eat crow that time didn't I
21:11:48 <Ballig> :p
21:12:02 <Mort-> yeah
21:12:04 <Mort-> I stand corrected
21:12:09 <Mort-> but you have to see the situation
21:12:12 <Mort-> your a rich ol bloke
21:12:16 <Mort-> your weapon costs 10 gp to throw
21:12:20 <Mort-> mine costs 25 gp
21:12:24 <Mort-> clearly I wouldnt be throwing it at shadows
21:12:37 <Ballig> I had good reason to be suspicious
21:12:44 <Ballig> and it was justified
21:12:46 <Mort-> and you have to remeber its my first encounter :)
21:12:50 <Mort-> we all get a little nub
21:12:53 <Mort-> at least I had stuff to deal with it
21:12:57 <Ballig> that wasn't your first encounter :P
21:13:05 <Mort-> well first encounter of THAT sort
21:13:07 <Mort-> OH wait it wasnt
21:13:08 <Mort-> damn
21:13:09 <Mort-> I rememberd
21:13:13 <Mort-> POOG!
21:13:16 <Mort-> ah damn
21:13:21 <Mort-> but anyway. that was an outright situiatoin
21:13:23 <Mort-> target infront
21:13:25 <Mort-> fire away.
21:13:30 <Ballig> :p
21:13:37 <Mort-> no hesitation
21:13:55 * Mort- eats crow and spits out some feathers
21:14:43 <Mort-> how much hp does your wolf have ballig
21:14:47 <Mort-> arent you afraid someone will kill your wolf?
21:15:06 <Mort-> like if I ever face a sumoner..
21:15:10 <Mort-> synthesis type
21:15:12 <Ballig> 32hp
21:15:14 <Mort-> first thing you need is dismissal
21:15:15 <Mort-> ah
21:15:18 <Mort-> his ac?
21:15:20 <Ballig> 22
21:15:20 <Mort-> he isnt easy ot kill?
21:15:22 <Mort-> wow
21:15:25 <Mort-> not bad
21:15:31 <Mort-> so he can hold his ground in a fight
21:15:42 <Mort-> what happens if someone says tries to drop a pit form under you
21:15:46 <Mort-> do both of you have to reflex save?
21:15:50 <Ballig> I spent the first few levels with Mekkis trying to kill my mount
21:15:56 <Brunius> ha
21:15:59 <Mort-> ah k
21:16:02 <Ballig> and yeah, both of us make the reflex
21:16:11 <Mort-> what happens if you lose your wolf, or he loses you
21:16:14 <Ballig> mm
21:16:17 <Ballig> actually, maybe only I make it
21:16:20 <Ballig> depends on the GM
21:16:20 <tristen> hey i gotta split - cheers for the game today, good fun :)
21:16:22 <Ballig> tata
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21:16:34 <Mort-> acutally I think if you lose your wolf
21:16:40 <Mort-> you'll immediately become encumbered? :P
21:16:41 <Mort-> lol
21:17:01 <Mort-> Im wondering if I should get socks to fight, but with half my hp rounded down
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21:17:04 <Mort-> I think it is not a good idea
21:17:08 <Mort-> better keep her in my robe pocket
21:17:34 <Ballig> I'm already encumbered, I wear heavy armour
21:17:35 <Ballig> +1 full plate
21:17:53 <Mort-> wihtout your mount
21:17:55 <Mort-> you cant function right?
21:17:58 * Mort- grins
21:18:02 <Ballig> why wouldn't I be able to function?
21:18:12 <Mort-> urm
21:18:15 <Mort-> your're encumbered
21:18:15 <Ballig> can you function without your spellbook?
21:18:19 <Mort-> sure
21:18:24 <Mort-> I have 5 jugs of alchemist fire
21:18:24 <Ballig> I'm not any more encumbered than Gogg
21:18:26 <Ballig> he also wears full plate
21:18:28 <Mort-> and 5jugs of...
21:18:32 <Mort-> acid
21:18:35 <Mort-> and a bow, and a longsword
21:18:40 <Mort-> coool. totally awesome
21:18:46 <Mort-> I also have 2 scrolls of magic missile
21:18:49 <Ballig> yeah, I have a bow, and a longsword, and a glaive, and 18 flasks of acid, and 3 flasks of alchemist's fire
21:18:50 <Mort-> :P
21:18:57 <Mort-> ah 18 flasks of acid
21:18:58 <Ballig> sorry, why am I unable to function without my mount when I'm better equipped than you?
21:19:01 <Mort-> thats. a litlte over down
21:19:03 <Mort-> over done
21:19:10 <Mort-> I thought you wouldnt be able to move
21:19:17 <Mort-> beucase of too much weight
21:19:19 <Ballig> I can move at 20 feet speed
21:19:20 <Mort-> gnomes are small you know
21:19:21 <Mort-> ah k
21:19:24 <Mort-> so thats what hahppens
21:19:30 <Ballig> right
21:19:47 <Mort-> well if you too kaway my spellbook..bb to my cantrips and spells :(
21:19:50 * Mort- sniffs
21:19:55 <Ballig> all heavy armour fighters are as encumbered as I am
21:20:04 <Ballig> my mount is a bonus
21:20:09 <Mort-> I thought your gnome was making you take str penalty
21:20:16 <Mort-> how fast are you on your moutn
21:20:21 <Ballig> 50 feet on my mount
21:20:22 <Mort-> and why are you looking at horse shoes of zephyr
21:20:23 <Mort-> wow
21:20:26 <Mort-> you're fking fast
21:20:43 <Ballig> horseshoes of zephyr make my mount float just above the ground
21:20:50 <Mort-> why would you want that?
21:20:52 <Ballig> meaning he can walk across swamp/rubble/etc (difficult terrain) without penalty
21:20:56 <Ballig> meaning I can then charge over those types of ground
21:21:00 <Mort-> oh okay
21:21:05 <Mort-> how many times in combat can you charge
21:21:13 <Ballig> whenever I have a line of charge
21:21:17 <Ballig> I didn't get one at all in that game
21:21:25 <Mort-> the more ground you cover
21:21:28 <Mort-> the more dmg you deal?
21:21:36 <Ballig> no
21:21:38 <Ballig> I just have to be able to charge 10 feet
21:21:44 <Mort-> for max dmg
21:21:45 <Mort-> I see
21:21:48 <Ballig> but I have 10 feet reach, so I have to be 15 feet away from the opponent
21:21:53 <Ballig> without anything in between
21:21:54 <Mort-> not like heroes of might and magic V cavailer..
21:21:55 <Mort-> oh
21:21:55 <Ballig> and no difficult terrain
21:21:57 <Mort-> thats abit hard
21:22:24 <Mort-> how are true level 1s supposed to deal with swarms
21:22:25 <Mort-> really
21:22:29 <Mort-> say if its your first scenario...
21:22:39 <Mort-> I doubt anyone would have presence of mind to bring alchemist fire
21:22:50 <Ballig> none of us did
21:22:53 <Ballig> the NPC wizard saved us
21:22:55 <Mort-> the best I had
21:22:56 <Mort-> oh
21:22:57 <Mort-> lol
21:22:59 <Mort-> burning hands?
21:23:02 <Ballig> I think so
21:23:03 <Brunius> what did we do in vitv?
21:23:04 <Mort-> at my first scenario was oil
21:23:16 <Ballig> the NPC wizard might have had an acid flask
21:23:23 <Mort-> one flask wont do it
21:23:27 <Mort-> u threw one flask..
21:23:29 <Mort-> it took 2
21:23:30 <Ballig> it can
21:23:35 <Ballig> I did more than 2
21:23:38 <Ballig> I did 7 damage
21:23:44 <Mort-> t took 2
21:23:46 <Ballig> no
21:23:47 <Mort-> flasks to kill it
21:23:47 <Ballig> I took 2
21:23:48 <Mort-> it took
21:23:50 <Mort-> yes
21:23:50 <Ballig> oh, right
21:23:53 <Ballig> yes, it took 2 flasks to kill it
21:23:55 <Mort-> i saw you throw 2
21:23:59 <Mort-> I would throw too, if I had my turn
21:24:00 <Ballig> that swarm /could/ have been killed in one flask
21:24:03 <Ballig> but only if you rolled max damage
21:24:07 <Mort-> probably
21:24:16 <Ballig> it has 9 hp
21:24:19 <Mort-> ah
21:24:20 <Ballig> flask does 1d6 damage
21:24:22 <Brunius> What did we do in that first scenario we played?
21:24:24 <Ballig> takes +50% damage from AOE
21:24:27 <Mort-> I think acid flasks are cheaper to kill
21:24:30 <Ballig> Brunius: I think the NPC wizard had a flask of acid
21:24:36 <Mort-> and threw it
21:24:41 <Brunius> We didn't have an NPC wizard did we?
21:24:42 <Ballig> maybe two flasks
21:24:45 <Ballig> we did
21:24:49 <Ballig> because it also saved us in the final encounter
21:24:51 <Ballig> by colour spraying
21:24:52 <Brunius> I think we had an NPC Cleric
21:24:55 <Mort-> I think acid flasks are cheaper to use then some of the more interesting stuff
21:24:56 <Mort-> haha
21:24:57 <Ballig> it was definitely a wizard
21:24:59 <Mort-> colour spray saved the day :D
21:24:59 <Ballig> wizard/sorcerer
21:25:00 <Mort-> as usual
21:25:03 <Brunius> You wanna pull out the logs?
21:25:08 <Ballig> I remember it clearly :p
21:25:13 <Ballig> it's what burned into my mind the usefulness of colour spray
21:25:30 <Mort-> colour spray is less useful in comp games dnd
21:25:31 <Ballig> the final encounter almost killed us
21:25:32 <Mort-> because you level too fast
21:25:34 <Ballig> with her stupid magic missiles
21:25:42 <Ballig> then the sorcerer goes running up and colour sprays
21:25:45 <Mort-> I do remember dropping an enemy caster who was threatening nodwik
21:25:46 <Ballig> and we're like "wait, what? combat over?"
21:25:48 <Mort-> with color sprays as well
21:25:50 <Mort-> hahaha
21:25:51 <Ballig> "a single spell did that?"
21:25:53 <Mort-> yes
21:25:59 <Mort-> I spray happily too
21:26:38 <Mort-> maybe someday I should roll up a sorc :P
21:26:39 <Mort-> hahah
21:27:06 <Ballig> they're very combat focused
21:28:30 <Mort-> thats okay
21:28:36 <Mort-> Ill bring scrolls of whatever not to make up for..
21:28:38 <Mort-> whatever I lack
21:28:41 <Mort-> but wizzies have more utlity
21:30:45 <Mort-> lets do the out of control fire mage thingie :P
21:33:53 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/undead-bloodline
21:33:55 <Mort-> turn lich? :P
21:33:56 <Mort-> lol
21:34:04 <Mort-> nah sorceror I think I would go draconic bloodline
21:39:18 <Ballig> you are very energetic
21:41:10 <Mort-> yeah it comes with not having a job :P
21:41:12 <Mort-> hehe
21:41:14 <Mort-> I guess I should..
21:41:16 <Mort-> haha get to work
21:41:22 <Mort-> ut Ill be taking bath now
21:41:24 <Mort-> sor soon
21:41:25 <Mort-> or soon
21:41:30 <Mort-> becuase both my kds in wol and bf
21:41:31 <Mort-> are not at war
21:41:36 <Mort-> so I basically have my energy at full
21:41:45 <Mort-> u should see what my kds say about me when Im at war..
21:41:50 <Mort-> comments like, Do you ever sleep? :P
21:41:51 <Mort-> lol
21:42:06 <Hydrazine> later guys.
21:42:26 <Ballig> tata 'zine
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21:43:07 <Hydrasleep> DAMMIT I lost Lydia again
21:43:31 <Ballig> who
21:52:04 <Brunius> Lydia.
21:52:07 <Brunius> Can't you read.
21:52:20 <Ballig> no
21:52:21 <Ballig> I can't
21:52:26 <Ballig> DON'T YOU FEEL LIKE A JERK NOW? :(
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21:55:48 <Mort-> who is lydia?
21:56:59 <Lord> elder scrolls skyrim: housecarl
21:58:04 <Hydrasleep> lost the bitch for like 3 days.
21:58:05 <Mort-> oh
21:58:10 <Mort-> you need track
21:58:11 <Mort-> find her :D
21:58:29 <Hydrasleep> usually i only lose her when i accidently axe her in the face.
21:58:40 <Hydrasleep> or that one time she tried to tank a giant and reached orbit.
21:58:44 <Mort-> Gawd, this is irritating.
21:58:44 <Mort-> Recently, as a player with a paladin, we were sent to free a captured woman from some evil dude. As we approached a cavern, we saw her lying on the floor, apparently unconscious. She was too far away to tell her physical condition, but it was clear it was her. Others in our group wanted us to wait nearly six rounds while they buffed, because,
21:58:44 <Mort-> "The BBEG must be in there somewhere. There is less than an hour left in this slot."
21:58:44 <Mort-> I was soo irritated at that statement, that I charged in when I would have otherwise been at least cautious. Yes, it could have been a trap, but I am a paladin and I'm not going to wait for you to 'buff' while our 'victim' might be bleeding out.
21:58:46 <Mort-> man this is funny:P
21:58:57 <Mort-> I dont see anything wrong with tanks wnating to rush in really..
21:59:36 <Hydrasleep> paladins are trap magnets really.
21:59:41 <Spaceshot> metagaming should be punished in general
21:59:56 <Hydrasleep> same way you always catch superman.
22:00:44 <Hydrasleep> alright, gone for reals.
22:00:50 <Mort-> you'll never see me charge in in my current form
22:00:54 <Mort-> but as pally, who knows, I might :P
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22:01:19 <Mort-> if I were a tank Id leave my brain at the door. u blow trumpet I charge
22:01:38 <Spaceshot> being cautious is one thing, metagaming because there is only so much time left is another
22:02:23 <Mort-> wizzie..cant be helped, kinda stuck in my current form and current stats
22:02:25 <Mort-> Poogs..funny
22:04:11 <Ballig> Bobbob walks in
22:04:22 <Ballig> no use standing outside worrying about a trap on the door when you know there's no way to deal with it anyway
22:04:24 <Ballig> just go on through
22:05:41 <Brunius> Kaleb can defuse traps
22:07:19 <Mort-> I urm would go in, after someone goes in and trips the trap
22:07:20 <Mort-> :D
22:07:24 <Mort-> ooops
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22:13:40 <Ballig> yeah if there's a rogue in the group, sure
22:13:42 <Ballig> usually there's not though
22:16:05 <Brunius> Rogue is an underused class
22:16:21 <Ballig> it's hard to play
22:16:24 <Brunius> It is
22:16:29 <Ballig> but great when it's done right
22:16:37 <Brunius> I think the only bard I've seen is Roger
22:16:42 <Brunius> Only Monk credlics
22:16:55 <Ballig> bard's okay too, it actually has some unique spells
22:17:03 <Brunius> I only ever saw one alchemist, in a game I ran at school
22:17:14 <Brunius> The guy was chucking bombs left right and centre
22:17:16 <Ballig> I've played an alchemist
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22:17:32 <Mort-> usually I wont even walk into a dungeonwithout a rgoue..
22:17:38 <Mort-> but I guess you have to live with it
22:17:50 <Mort-> I think rogue you have to be very familiar with combat system
22:17:53 <Ballig> I mean straight away, level 0 bard spell, "lullaby"
22:18:09 <Mort-> atm Im begining to get a glimpse of it now ..at least I have my cones memorized by heart
22:18:11 <Ballig> has a 100 foot range, anything within a 10 foot burst takes -5 penalty on perception and -2 on will saves against sleep
22:18:23 <Mort-> cantrip right?
22:18:27 <Ballig> yeah
22:18:27 <Mort-> but you need combinationwith sleep
22:18:30 <Avatar> I think bards might have gotten less useful in pathfinder than they were in 3.5
22:18:36 <Mort-> fk sleep. IF colour spray can do it...
22:18:39 <Mort-> spray him :P
22:18:48 <Ballig> well, lullaby would be pretty useful to create an ambush
22:18:55 <Ballig> but you require some kind of sight to them
22:19:02 <Avatar> they do have a select few spells which could borderline break them I think
22:19:15 <Avatar> isn't there one that gives like +20 to bluff
22:19:27 <Mort-> u need to use 2 actions
22:19:27 <Mort-> sometimes time is crucial
22:19:27 <Brunius> What
22:19:29 <Ballig> then level 1 they have lesser confusion
22:19:31 <Brunius> +20 to bluff
22:19:31 <Ballig> <?confused
22:19:34 <Brunius> That's crazy
22:19:39 <Brunius> ??confusion
22:19:43 <Ballig> glibness
22:19:59 <Ballig> bards get /hideous laughter/ at level 1 instead of level 2 like wizards
22:20:00 <Mort-> 10 foot burst
22:20:01 <Ballig> that's pretty nuts
22:20:04 <Avatar> yeah that's it
22:20:06 <Ballig> Mort-: 100 foot range
22:20:08 <Mort-> why..hideous laughter
22:20:17 <Ballig> hideous laughter is crazy
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22:20:25 <Avatar> bluff only for convincing, not for feinting and the like
22:20:28 <Mort-> I still have this addcition to dmg only
22:20:35 <Mort-> need to see it
22:20:37 <Ballig> they get blindness/deafness at level 2
22:20:40 <Mort-> silence maybe if I could cast it
22:20:44 <Ballig> okay, sorcerers get that too
22:20:45 <Ballig> nevermind
22:21:15 <Ballig> but yeah, I feel that bards are a good mix of arcane and divine spells
22:21:18 <Mort-> A creature whose type is different from the caster's receives a +4 bonus on its saving throw, because humor doesn't "translate" well.
22:21:20 <Ballig> with a few uniques in there
22:21:27 <Mort-> looks like a good way of...disabling enemy casters
22:21:29 <Avatar> witch is a good mix of arcane and divine too, I've discovered
22:21:30 <Mort-> Ill look at the level 2 spells
22:21:59 <Mort-> Im begining to think of taking a few magic weapons scrolls
22:22:03 <Avatar> the healing hex became even less useful when I realised I could take cure light wounds
22:22:17 <Mort-> I wonder whos going to forget to bring...their magic weapons and a shadow decides to pay us a visit :(
22:22:25 <Ballig> bards get glibness as a third level spell
22:23:16 <Ballig> bard spell progression is worse than sorcerer though
22:23:24 <Mort-> Create Pit
22:23:32 <Mort-> Casting Time 1 standard action
22:23:33 <Mort-> Components V, S, F (miniature shovel costing 10 gp)
22:23:35 <Mort-> 10 gp per cast? >.<
22:23:56 <Ballig> no
22:23:57 <Ballig> it's a focus
22:24:04 <Ballig> not a material component
22:24:14 <Ballig> you must possess a miniature shovel worth 10 gold
22:24:45 <Ballig> Focus (F): A focus component is a prop of some sort.
22:24:46 <Ballig> Unlike a material component, a focus is not consumed
22:24:46 <Ballig> when the spell is cast and can be reused. As with
22:24:46 <Ballig> material components, the cost for a focus is negligible
22:24:46 <Ballig> unless a price is given. Assume that focus components of
22:24:46 <Ballig> negligible cost are in your spell component pouch
22:24:47 <Mort-> ah cool
22:24:48 <Mort-> easy
22:24:55 <Mort-> Ill defintely bring one
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22:26:29 <Mekkis> Ballig, often hungry things go for the biggest enemy
22:27:09 <Ballig> I've heard your justifications
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22:28:49 <Mort-> oh urm ya
22:29:01 <Mort-> so anyone in pit..cant cast or attack the rest?
22:29:05 <Mort-> I didnt see reply got dced
22:29:06 <Mort-> and ..
22:29:07 <Mort-> A cloud of golden particles covers everyone and everything in the area, causing creatures to become blinded and visibly outlining invisible things for the duration of the spell. All within the area are covered by the dust, which cannot be removed and continues to sparkle until it fades. Each round at the end of their turn blinded creatures may attempt new saving throws to end the blindness effect.
22:29:11 <Mort-> this one - includes party?
22:29:16 <Brunius> Oh that reminds me
22:29:26 <Brunius> Mort-, my brother tried the pit DDO quest the otherday
22:29:45 <Avatar> how did he go
22:29:45 <Ballig> Mort-: if it doesn't say "enemies" in the target section, then yes
22:30:00 <Brunius> He spent like 3 hours on it before giving up
22:30:03 <Avatar> hahaha
22:30:06 <Ballig> and the pit depends how big it is compared to how big they are, and whether they need to see you to cast the spell they want to cast
22:30:36 <Mort-> I spent a whole afternoon
22:30:38 <Mort-> on the pit
22:30:41 <Mort-> tryign to figure it out
22:30:42 <Mort-> I fked up
22:30:46 <Mort-> you either run the pit with a guide
22:30:55 <Mort-> or urm..u shouldnt run it
22:31:02 <Mort-> the pit requires a LOT of accrobatics
22:31:04 <Avatar> Mort-: last I saw that spell used it did little but delay a scenario
22:31:04 <Ballig> which one is the pit
22:31:07 <Brunius> You can be our guide Mort-
22:31:09 <Mort-> I tel lyou I took of my plate armor and..
22:31:11 <Mort-> No I cannot
22:31:13 <Mort-> I am not qulaified
22:31:19 <Brunius> Yes you are
22:31:20 <Mort-> becuase if you were to wait for me to ninja gaiden the whole thing
22:31:21 <Mort-> I fk up
22:31:24 <Brunius> You will guide us
22:31:25 <Mort-> I ddnt run through it sucessfully
22:31:27 <Mort-> I cant
22:31:29 <Mort-> Im not qualified :D
22:31:30 <Ballig> Avatar: which spell? glitterdust or create pit?
22:31:47 <Avatar> create pit
22:31:52 <Ballig> how did it delay the scenario
22:31:53 <Mort-> becuase there are al lkidns of jumping you need to do
22:32:06 <Avatar> I don't really remember to be honest
22:32:10 <Avatar> you can't get to the bad guys
22:32:12 <Ballig> I'm not even sure how it could
22:32:12 <Mort-> I thought somteims you need to get someone OUT OF YOUR WAY
22:32:13 <Avatar> and they can't get to you
22:32:20 <Ballig> why can't you get to them
22:32:22 <Mort-> well it shouldnt last too long
22:32:25 <Mort-> they are not in this world
22:32:26 <Ballig> you go adjacent to the lip of the pit and you shoot at them
22:32:28 <Avatar> because you can't stand on the edges of the pit without falling in
22:32:28 <Mort-> another dimension
22:32:36 <Ballig> you risk falling in, sure
22:32:38 <Ballig> then you're in with them
22:32:40 <Ballig> bam, you're at them
22:32:46 <Avatar> I don't think it's that simple
22:32:49 <Ballig> anyway, it's meant to be used as a form of crowd control
22:32:54 <Avatar> yeah
22:33:02 <Avatar> but I don't think it accomplished that particularly well in practise
22:33:05 <Mort-> You create a 10-foot-by-10-foot extra-dimensional hole with a depth of 10 feet per two caster levels (maximum 30 feet). You must create the pit on a horizontal surface of sufficient size. Since it extends into another dimension, the pit has no weight and does not otherwise displace the original underlying material.
22:33:20 <Mort-> yo ucant shoot at them in your dimension I thought?
22:33:30 <Ballig> you can
22:33:35 <Mort-> I would like to specialize in crowd control
22:33:37 <Mort-> if you can shoot at htem
22:33:38 <Ballig> they say it's "extra-dimensional" to show you that it's not actually creating a pit
22:33:40 <Mort-> they can shoot at you
22:33:44 <Ballig> e.g. you can't be on a ship and cast it and dump them in the water
22:33:50 <Mort-> and they can spell you as well
22:33:53 <Ballig> how do they shoot at you from a pit
22:33:57 <Mort-> if you're in range, so is the enemy?
22:34:02 <Ballig> obviously
22:34:09 <Mort-> thats what general combat sayings go..
22:34:15 <Ballig> he's just saying that it delayed the scenario because they had to wait around for the spell to end because they weren't willing to get close to the pit
22:34:21 <Mort-> ah
22:34:30 <Spaceshot> girly men
22:34:34 <Brunius> I played too much minecraft yesterday
22:34:37 <Mort-> I wouldnt get near a pit either
22:34:40 <Mort-> but thats the tanks job :D
22:34:43 <Ballig> and also weren't willing to throw alchemist's fire in the pit
22:34:54 <Mort-> can the monster in the pit shoot at you as line of sight? no
22:34:55 <Brunius> I keep thinking I'm seeing the hunger bar nearly at the bottom
22:35:03 <Mort-> but if he throws a stinking cloud he'll hit everyone right?
22:35:13 <Mort-> though stuff like fireball/lightning bolt which require aiming
22:35:17 <Mort-> wont work on his pit?
22:35:21 <Avatar> who's running the saturday game
22:35:27 <Ballig> someone will
22:35:36 <Avatar> does anyone want to put their hand up
22:35:40 <Ballig> I can do it
22:35:48 <Avatar> will you run first steps 2
22:35:51 <Ballig> sure
22:35:53 <Mekkis> I am
22:36:02 <Avatar> yeah I didn't expect you to say yes to that
22:36:05 <Mekkis> didn't Brunius?
22:36:10 <Brunius> what
22:36:12 <Mekkis> why not get him to run it again?
22:36:12 <Avatar> yeah he did
22:36:20 <Brunius> I only half ran it today
22:36:26 <Avatar> didn't finish?
22:36:28 <Ballig> really
22:36:29 <Brunius> Gotta finish it off tomorrow, if tashes is around
22:38:08 <Avatar> we could do another game tomorrow if people are around
22:38:16 <Mort-> ooo
22:38:19 * Mort- perks her tail up
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22:38:42 <Avatar> I think I need one more game to get my first star
22:38:45 <Mort-> grrs
22:39:41 <Mekkis> I need six more to get my second
22:40:20 <Mekkis> I plan to run Before The Dawn I
22:40:38 <Mort-> living foes are really so much easier to fight
22:40:51 <Brunius> Again?
22:40:51 <Mekkis> then you won't have a problem, Mort-
22:40:59 <Mekkis> if there are enough players, yes
22:41:06 <Brunius> !idealscenario gm=22870
22:41:07 <diebot> Brunius, idealscenario gm=<pfsnumber> player=<pfsnumber,pfsnumber> [minlevel=n] [maxlevel=n] [redm=1] [unplayed=1]
22:41:19 <Mort-> hehe
22:41:19 <Brunius> !idealscenario gm=22870 player=10339
22:41:20 <diebot> Brunius, 1:Silent Tide | 52:City of Strangers-Pt2: The Twofold Demise |
22:41:29 <Mort-> city of strangers part 2 already run
22:41:31 <Mort-> before
22:41:41 <Mekkis> Brunius, you've just found the two scenarios that have not been reported :)
22:41:45 <Mort-> I dislike undead and dmg reduction stuffs
22:41:48 <Mekkis> I've played them both...
22:41:56 <Brunius> Ha
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22:42:31 <Mekkis> do we have twelve players yet?
22:42:39 <Spaceshot> why?
22:42:49 <Mekkis> so I can run Year of the Shadow Lodge
22:42:50 <Mort-> raid? :D
22:42:53 <Mort-> haha
22:42:58 <Avatar> will you TPK us
22:43:05 <Mekkis> unlikely
22:43:09 <Mort-> how the hell would I know :p
22:43:12 <Spaceshot> it needs 12 players?
22:43:14 * Mort- eyes mekkis suspiciously :P
22:43:19 <Mort-> urm if he said 12 players theres a reason
22:43:20 <Brunius> Ha
22:43:21 <Mekkis> it needs a minimum of 12 players
22:43:26 <Brunius> For 3 tables?
22:43:27 <Mort-> probably means tons of mobs
22:43:33 <Mekkis> three tables
22:43:37 <Brunius> It's run as multiple tables, Mort-
22:43:45 <Brunius> It's all part of a larger battle
22:43:45 <Mekkis> in person, it's impossible for one GM to run them all
22:43:53 <Mort-> oh.
22:44:00 <Mort-> I thought its a huge 12 party group!
22:44:00 <Brunius> So if table 1 beats their scenario, tables 2 and 3 have an easier time of it
22:44:01 <Mekkis> I venture that it would be possible on IRC though
22:44:04 <Mort-> think raids!
22:44:08 <Brunius> Ha
22:44:18 <Mort-> well too many mmorpgs
22:44:19 <Mort-> do that to you
22:44:39 <Mekkis> Brunius, in some encounters, if a cleric on Table 1 (running at tier 10-11) channels, all players on all tables get their 6d6hp of healing
22:44:45 <Brunius> Nice
22:44:47 <Mort-> problem is we dont have enough healers around..?
22:44:52 <Mort-> oh my
22:45:03 <Mort-> I dislike. going. around. wihotut clerics:P
22:45:07 <Spaceshot> what tier is it meant to be?
22:45:13 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, 1-11
22:45:22 <Spaceshot> heh
22:45:46 <Spaceshot> how long does it take usually with 3 DMs?
22:45:49 * Mort- feels wimpy at level 2
22:46:02 <Mort-> split scenario into level ranges then?
22:46:07 <Mekkis> yep
22:46:12 <Mort-> I mean its like running 3 different scenarios at one go
22:46:23 <Mort-> no point having level 7s and level 2s running in same scenario
22:46:31 <Mort-> what happens if one part TPKs?
22:46:37 <Mort-> the other 2 groups?
22:46:45 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, we did it in around 5 hours, including a 45 minute lunch break at arcanacon
22:46:57 <Mekkis> with five tables
22:46:59 <Avatar> I am already really feeling like the variety of scenarios is particularly lacking
22:47:04 <Mort-> I think its faster in person
22:47:08 <Mort-> then acutally running on irc
22:47:10 <Brunius> Go in, kill undead
22:47:12 <Mekkis> Avatar, that's because you're not roleplaying them
22:47:18 <Avatar> I don't know if I am picky but I have trouble finding them
22:47:22 <Avatar> it's quantity, not quality
22:47:29 <Avatar> I ran a low-review one today and it was enjoyable
22:47:53 <Mekkis> I mean, you injected a lot of depth into Perils of the Pirate Pact
22:48:33 <Mekkis> Buck, Bobbob and Kaleb...
22:48:58 <Brunius> Did we?
22:49:04 <Brunius> I feel that one was under-played
22:49:09 <Mekkis> how so?
22:49:11 <Brunius> Except for the black powder, I guess
22:49:21 <Avatar> do you mean all of us or my character?
22:49:25 <Mekkis> you could have done more, but you were asking a lot of questions
22:49:31 <Mekkis> all of you
22:49:43 <Brunius> Kaleb is seriously considering carrying around a pony with like 5 barrels of black powder now
22:49:55 <Brunius> Light the fuse and set it off against the opponent
22:49:59 <Mekkis> buck was up their interrogating ____ ___________ and using sense motive a lot
22:50:01 <Avatar> hahaha
22:50:16 <Avatar> that was an exceptional case against an exceptional npc
22:50:19 <Mekkis> s/their/there/
22:50:22 <Avatar> Buck is meant to be a quiet character
22:50:27 <Avatar> hence the glaring
22:50:39 <Avatar> I'm trying to roleplay his charisma
22:51:17 <Brunius> I've been trying to rp Derau's charisma
22:51:27 <Brunius> glaring and growling at people
22:51:35 <Avatar> add grunting
22:51:50 <Brunius> It's only 8
22:51:53 <Brunius> not like 3
22:51:53 <Avatar> what race is derau
22:51:56 <Brunius> Dwarve
22:51:59 <Mekkis> Brunius, I hope you roleplayed Amara Li, Colson Mandris, and Aaqir al’Hakam properly
22:52:00 <Brunius> Dwarf?
22:52:05 <Brunius> One of them
22:52:23 <Brunius> I think I did Amara Li well, not so sure about the Major, Aaqir felt average
22:52:27 <Mekkis> you realise that the way you roleplay them DOES influence the factions that the players might end up taking
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22:52:55 <Brunius> Good, funnel more people into the Lantern Lodge
22:53:01 <Mekkis> hehe
22:53:05 <Mekkis> and to Cheliax
22:53:32 <Mekkis> the Paracountess enjoys those Lovely New Recruits
22:53:48 <Brunius> enjoys or Enjoys?
22:53:54 <Mekkis> I colour sprayed the party twice yesterday
22:54:05 <Brunius> gg
22:54:19 <Brunius> I should go to sleep
22:54:38 <Mekkis> everyone failed their will saves
22:54:40 <Mekkis> twice
22:54:52 <Mekkis> luckily the dwarf was out of range
22:54:53 <Mekkis> both times
22:55:22 <Mekkis> (hint: taking a sorcerer's spell component pouch doesn't work)
22:56:05 <Brunius> Mekkis, you don't happen to have a spare ISWG you want to get rid of cheap, do you?
22:56:21 <Mekkis> (hint2: there are almost no enemy wizards: they're all sorcerers)
22:56:29 <Mekkis> _______, however, is one
22:56:33 <Brunius> Yeah, what's up with that?
22:56:51 <Brunius> !rng sleep internets
22:56:51 <diebot> Brunius, sleep
22:56:55 <Brunius> screw you diebot
22:56:56 <Brunius> screw you
22:57:02 <Mekkis> simple
22:57:06 <Brunius> Night yo
22:57:08 <Mekkis> wizards have spellbooks
22:57:10 Brunius is now known as Brunius_AFK
22:57:13 <Mekkis> which are worth too much $$$
22:57:15 <Brunius_AFK> Ah
22:57:19 <Brunius_AFK> That makes sense
22:57:21 * Mekkis casts colour spray on Brunius_AFK
22:57:31 <Brunius_AFK> Will is based on wisdom?
22:57:50 <Mekkis> ja
22:57:56 <Mekkis> which you dumped :)
22:57:57 <Brunius_AFK> !throw 1d20-1 Will save
22:57:58 <diebot> Brunius_AFK, Will save: [1d20=13] 12
22:58:09 <Mekkis> goodnight
22:58:10 <Mekkis> :)
23:00:08 <Mekkis> maybe I'll run Voice in the Void or Mists of Mwangi
23:00:17 <Mekkis> more museum adventures
23:02:35 <Brunius_AFK> :D
23:02:45 <Brunius_AFK> I'll run Echoes of the Overwatched after this
23:02:54 <Brunius_AFK> That's part in the Blackros Museum
23:03:14 <Mekkis> Brunius_AFK, you haven't told diebot you played that!
23:03:25 <Brunius_AFK> I haven't
23:03:41 <Mekkis> well?
23:03:47 <Brunius_AFK> I was working on the assumption I'd be DMing for Avatar, which brings the scenarios I can DM down to about 3
23:03:54 <Brunius_AFK> So I just picked an unplayed one
23:04:04 <Mekkis> ah
23:04:14 <Mekkis> fair enough then
23:04:31 <Mekkis> (I thought by "I haven't", you meant that you hadn't told diebot)
23:04:50 <Brunius_AFK> I went to season three "Ok...which ones are tier 1-5 and haven't been played in the channel"
23:04:54 <Brunius_AFK> That was the first one that came up
23:04:55 <Mekkis> !idealscenario gm=800001 player=10339
23:04:56 <diebot> Mekkis, 26:Lost at Bitter End | 36:Echoes of the Everwar, Pt I – Prisoner of Skull Hill | 38:No Plunder, No Pay | 44:Echoes of the Everwar-Pt3: Terror at Whistledown | 2-14 :The Chasm of Screams |
23:04:56 <Brunius_AFK> 3-07
23:05:44 <Mekkis> (FYI, 800001..800020 are dummy characters who have played random scenarios: used for testing)
23:06:29 <Brunius_AFK> !idealscenario gm=22870 player=800001
23:06:43 <Brunius_AFK> Oh it PMs now does it
23:06:55 <Mort-> musuem adventures?
23:06:58 <Mekkis> if the list is too long, yes
23:07:00 <Mort-> time to get oher stuffs
23:07:17 <Mort-> ARGH
23:07:18 <Brunius_AFK> Night yo
23:07:19 <Mort-> Im still ponering
23:07:24 <Mort-> get magic weapon scroll or not?
23:07:26 <Mort-> ELLLPS
23:07:29 <Mekkis> Brunius_AFK, Avatar, anyone else in Melbourne: Anything I should tell Darkwhite in this email?
23:07:30 <Brunius_AFK> Don't do it, Mort-!
23:07:33 <Mort-> okay :P
23:07:37 <Brunius_AFK> How awesome Ben Grunow is
23:07:42 <Avatar> tell him arcanacon is going to rock !!!!!!!
23:07:50 <Mort-> I should strangle whoever who doesnt bring along their magic weps
23:08:03 <Mekkis> how much Brunius_AFK and Avatar would appreciate it if he ran Shades of Ice III?
23:08:05 <Brunius_AFK> Tell him to give us all sweet racial boons
23:08:13 <Avatar> ah, no
23:08:14 <Brunius_AFK> I still haven't played SoI2
23:08:18 <Avatar> I think they are running edge of heaven aren't they
23:08:25 <Avatar> which is another multi-parter
23:08:29 <Avatar> that I am very keen to play
23:08:44 <Brunius_AFK> Kaleb playing scenarios stops...NOW
23:08:45 <Mekkis> there's six sessions
23:08:54 <Brunius_AFK> So he can play shades of ice 2 and 3
23:09:02 <Avatar> yeah fair enough, recommend it
23:09:08 <Mekkis> Sunday is Blood Under Absalom
23:09:12 <Brunius_AFK> Yaya
23:09:13 <Avatar> make sure it doesn't replace edge of heaven
23:09:22 <Mekkis> I can't make sure of anything
23:09:33 <Brunius_AFK> I'm not showing up Friday, I should mention
23:09:46 <Mekkis> school?
23:09:51 <Brunius_AFK> Nope
23:09:56 <Brunius_AFK> School is the friday after that
23:10:05 <Mekkis> what's your excuse?
23:10:07 <Brunius_AFK> Transport problems in the morning
23:10:21 <Avatar> man you have the best excuse ever to not show up
23:10:27 <Avatar> I don't know I would even go if I lived that far away
23:10:49 <Brunius_AFK> I wonder if getting a hotel would be cheaper than the petrol
23:11:13 <Brunius_AFK> People always say that Avatar
23:11:15 <Brunius_AFK> I don't get it
23:11:26 <Brunius_AFK> If I enjoy something, I don't care how long the trip takes
23:11:43 <Avatar> fair enough
23:11:44 <Mekkis> > I look forward to seeing you at Arcanacon. We'll be running the first
23:11:44 <Mekkis> > two in the Quest for Perfection series, as well as a host of other
23:11:44 <Mekkis> > scenarios that you can play here and then GM for your players when you
23:11:44 <Mekkis> > return to Brisbane. Sunday will be the Blood Under Absalom special -
23:11:44 <Mekkis> > did you miss that due to card tournament judging last October?
23:11:44 <Mekkis> >
23:11:44 <Mekkis> Yes, I did end up missing it: I also missed Shades of Ice III, which Grolschmir needs to play as his next scenario before he levels out-of-tier (when it was run last year, Tony and Ben missed out on it too). Any chance it will be run there? (No real problem, plenty of other characters available)
23:11:48 <Avatar> it might just be something that everyone's not used to
23:11:48 <Brunius_AFK> I go an hour each way most days for school
23:12:16 <Brunius_AFK> I didn't play SoI 2 either
23:12:42 <Brunius_AFK> I believe that has to be played before 3?
23:12:50 <Mort-> I dont think so
23:12:52 <Avatar> they never do
23:12:52 <Mort-> I didnt play SOI 1
23:12:55 <Mort-> and I went to 2
23:12:55 <Mekkis> not "has to"
23:12:56 <Avatar> it just makes more sense story-wise
23:12:57 <Brunius_AFK> There are some, Avatar
23:13:08 <Brunius_AFK> The bloodcove disguise, I think?
23:13:12 <Mort-> city of strangers I also jumped to 2 straight
23:13:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, at the end of 2, do we still have the chest?
23:13:26 <Brunius_AFK> whatever one that is in, has 3 and 4 that has to be played after
23:13:47 <Mekkis> Before the Dawn 1: The bloodcove disguise?
23:13:54 <Mekkis> well
23:14:07 <Mekkis> it IS possible to play BTD2 without playing BTD1
23:14:12 <Mekkis> but I won't run it
23:14:48 <Brunius_AFK> Must have been city of strangers i was thinking of
23:14:57 <Avatar> I think you gave it away
23:15:04 <Brunius_AFK> Damimt
23:15:10 <Brunius_AFK> There is one of them I remember
23:15:12 <Mekkis> Devil We Know doesn't really care about continuity
23:15:18 <Avatar> Skagni doesn't go with you
23:15:22 <Mekkis> it's just "stuff in Cassomir"
23:15:25 <Mort-> hrmm
23:15:28 <Mekkis> cool
23:15:35 <Mort-> might start working out a sumonner
23:15:40 <Mekkis> what type?
23:15:48 <Mort-> can use http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/races-of-the-dragon-empires
23:15:53 <Mort-> synthesis probably
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23:16:00 <Mort-> but I want to be a kitsune summoner
23:16:04 <Mekkis> (don't by into all the synthesist hype)
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23:16:08 <Mort-> hrm
23:16:09 <Brunius> Whoops
23:16:14 <Mort-> or maybe Ill use that kitsune
23:16:15 <Mort-> for a sorc
23:16:16 <Mort-> haha
23:16:18 <Mort-> that works too
23:16:28 <Mekkis> Mort-, you can't play noncore races
23:16:32 <Mort-> oh k
23:16:33 <Mekkis> without the boon to accompany them
23:16:33 <Mort-> :P
23:16:36 <Mort-> thought it was fun
23:16:40 <Mort-> they so fluffeh
23:16:49 <Avatar> do you want to play a tengu
23:16:51 <Brunius> How much of that did you get before I crashed out?
23:16:55 <Avatar> I have a boon to play a tengu
23:16:56 <Mekkis> Brunius, too much
23:16:57 <Brunius> I only meant to paste this: Crypt of Fools is part 3 of the The Devil We Know series. Parts 1 and 2 can be played in any order, but parts 3 and 4 must be sequentially after 1 and 2. Look for part 4, Pathfinder Society Scenario #48: Rules of the Swift, in April 2010.
23:17:12 <Avatar> if I can't get rid of that thing at arcanacon, I'm not going to be impressed
23:17:15 <Mekkis> Darkwhite said otherwise
23:17:21 <Brunius> burn it, Avatar
23:17:25 <Brunius> BURN IT WITH FIRE
23:17:27 <Avatar> :P
23:17:32 <Brunius> Burn it and video it
23:17:36 <Mekkis> Avatar, make it 22871-10
23:17:42 <Mort-> nah
23:17:43 <Brunius> Then post it on the paizo forums and watch the reacions
23:17:45 <Mort-> I want a kitsune :P
23:17:50 <Mort-> tengu are birdbrains, not fluffeh
23:17:51 <Brunius> reactions*
23:17:56 <Avatar> I'd probably get banned from PFS
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23:18:11 <Avatar> I have a question
23:18:13 <Brunius> Which is why you put it under a false alias, going through several proxies
23:18:20 <Avatar> what's stopping anyone photocopying those chronicle sheets
23:18:26 <Avatar> the race ones
23:18:26 <Brunius> Goodwill
23:18:32 <Mort-> think about it
23:18:38 <Mort-> Ill think about it
23:18:44 <Brunius> And fear of being caught
23:18:46 <Mekkis> Avatar, the same thing that stops me from printing that Masterful Forgery Boon :)
23:18:58 <Brunius> If you get caught with that at a con, with a forged signature on it
23:19:05 <Mort-> another idea was going on...a Dark elf
23:19:06 <Avatar> actually uh
23:19:07 <Mort-> but those arent working either
23:19:12 <Brunius> Well, forging a signature is a crime, isn't it?
23:19:13 <Avatar> it has darkwhite's signature on it at the bottom
23:19:18 <Avatar> I thought it was blank
23:19:29 <Mekkis> he knows it went to you
23:19:51 <Avatar> yeah but if it was blank, there'd be problems
23:20:01 <Mekkis> heh
23:20:13 <Mekkis> AusCon player boon was better :)
23:20:22 <Avatar> what was it
23:20:26 <Mekkis> +2 perception
23:20:34 <Avatar> yeah that is top notch
23:20:45 <Mekkis> should have come up for Auscon :)
23:21:01 <Avatar> very unlikely that I would travel for a con, even if I had a job
23:21:08 <Avatar> I don't know how you do it
23:22:07 <Brunius> night yo, for real this time
23:22:13 <Brunius> How DOES Mekkis do it?
23:22:20 <Mekkis> me?
23:22:29 <Mekkis> how DO I manage conning around?
23:22:32 <Brunius> Get the time off work, money to fly?
23:22:55 <Mekkis> book in advance, don't waste holidays
23:23:03 <Mekkis> a lot of my time off is overtime redemption
23:23:10 <Brunius> Ah
23:23:49 <Mekkis> don't waste money buying shitty computer games
23:24:14 <Mort-> hmm
23:24:20 <Mort-> tomorrow I miht have a prolbem
23:26:47 <Mekkis> come up with reasons to tax deduct the flights
23:27:07 <Mekkis> that reminds me Avatar: I'll need to wear a suit and have a coffee with a contractor on Monday
23:28:05 <Mekkis> (so the trip becomes work-related)
23:28:29 <Mort-> hrm
23:28:29 <Avatar> nice
23:28:48 <Avatar> is that something you are just telling me about how you do it, or is it something I need to know
23:28:55 <Mort-> tomrowi may have prolbem tomororw
23:29:01 <Avatar> I can't quite tell
23:29:10 <Mekkis> Avatar, well if on the 30th, I dress in a suit, that's why
23:29:16 <Mort-> 1 hr in the middle I need to plop off and buy some groceries for new year
23:29:22 <Avatar> man I won't even remember
23:29:24 <Mort-> I can be on cell
23:29:31 <Mort-> but I wont be able ot answer cos Im cycling over there
23:29:46 <Avatar> Mort-: if you can't make a game it's really no issue
23:29:51 <Avatar> it'll likely be run more than once
23:29:54 <Mekkis> you can call an hour break
23:30:04 <Mekkis> what's going on tomorrow?
23:30:06 <Mort-> no its just 1 hr
23:30:08 <Mort-> inbetween
23:30:18 <Avatar> considering doing another game
23:30:19 <Mort-> my mom had to go and tell me to go get the groceries for new year
23:30:22 <Mort-> if it rains I wont go haha :D
23:30:28 <Mort-> but what are the chances of it raining tomorrow? :D
23:30:34 <Mort-> I told her Im not cycling in the rain
23:30:53 <Avatar> it's just water :P
23:31:14 <Mort-> I hate water
23:31:18 <Mort-> haha
23:31:24 <Mort-> I told you mort has water phobias..
23:31:27 <Mort-> now u know where it comes from?
23:31:29 <Mort-> :P
23:31:35 <Mort-> nah I can swim perfectly fine
23:31:46 <Mort-> just I hate getting wet in the rain
23:31:47 <Mekkis> http://magiclampoon.com/blog/2012/01/18/wizards-announces-fifth-edition-dungeons-and-dragons/
23:31:51 <Mort-> because the rain will fog up my glasses
23:31:52 <Mekkis> hehe
23:31:52 <Avatar> Brunius: what was Hydra's character's name?
23:31:54 <Mort-> and I cant see where Im going
23:32:02 <Mort-> thats WHY I hate cycling in the rain
23:32:31 <Mekkis> Mort-, but if you're IRCing on your cell while riding...?
23:33:04 <Mort-> I will be around
23:33:07 <Mort-> but I cant ride and irc
23:33:10 <Mort-> well for obvious reasons
23:33:15 <Mort-> I cant one handed cycle
23:33:43 <Mekkis> reading IRC on a mobile phone isn't illegal, is it?
23:33:49 <Mekkis> while driving
23:34:17 <Avatar> sure is
23:34:24 <Mort-> it isnt but the point is I REALLY will risk and accident
23:34:27 <Mort-> I cannot one hand cycle
23:34:31 <Mort-> I can 1 hand txt no problem
23:34:35 <Mort-> but 1 handed cycling is bad
23:34:40 <Mort-> I have a friend who can cycle with no hands
23:34:45 <Mort-> but my RL dex isnt that good
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23:34:51 <Mort-> and my ride skill is nothing fantastic
23:34:55 <Avatar> maybe 10
23:34:59 <Mekkis> Spaceshot17, http://magiclampoon.com/blog/2012/01/18/wizards-announces-fifth-edition-dungeons-and-dragons/
23:35:07 <Avatar> mort dumped dex
23:35:21 <Mort-> I may be able ot stop at traffic lights
23:35:23 <Avatar> sounds like a bad name for a sitcom
23:35:34 <Mort-> Id say I have urm 14 str, 12 dex, 16 int, 10 wis, and 12 cha
23:35:35 <Mort-> :P
23:35:37 <Mort-> well if its possible
23:35:38 <Mort-> haha
23:35:40 <Mekkis> 16 int?
23:35:41 <Mekkis> wow
23:35:47 <Mort-> yeh? :P
23:35:48 <Mekkis> !throw 6#3d6
23:35:49 <Mort-> heheh
23:35:49 <diebot> Mekkis, 6#3d6: [3d6=1,6,6] 13, [3d6=2,3,6] 11, [3d6=5,2,4] 11, [3d6=2,2,4] 8, [3d6=3,2,1] 6, [3d6=6,5,3] 14
23:35:56 <Mekkis> that's your stat line
23:35:58 <Mekkis> :)
23:36:01 <Mort-> ahah
23:36:02 <Mort-> lol
23:36:06 <Mort-> but anwyay..
23:36:07 <Mekkis> in order
23:36:08 <Mort-> hehe
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23:36:14 <Mekkis> the way they did it in 1e
23:36:18 <Mort-> biking on irc
23:36:20 <Mort-> is a bad idea
23:36:21 <Mort-> seriously
23:36:24 <Mort-> can only stop at traffic lights
23:36:31 <Mort-> I can carry cell with me
23:36:33 <Mort-> turn irc on
23:36:36 <Mort-> but can only irc at stops
23:36:59 <Avatar> mort I think if you tried to play pathfinder on your phone while you were riding a bike or driving a car
23:37:04 <Avatar> and you got into an accident
23:37:09 <Avatar> I wouldn't know how to live with myself
23:37:21 <Mekkis> Mort-, you should get a nokia
23:37:32 <Mort-> yeah
23:37:35 <Mekkis> mine runs IRC, skype and CA
23:37:36 <Avatar> I think there's a line you have to draw where you say I don't need the exp THAT badly
23:37:37 <Mort-> well I odnt like the symbian system
23:37:38 <Mekkis> everything you need :)
23:37:40 <Mort-> I love my whatsaps
23:37:41 <Mort-> hehe
23:37:42 <Mort-> but the point is
23:37:45 <Mort-> ill just be gone for a hr
23:37:50 <Mort-> acutlaly what iLl do is just say..
23:37:52 <Mort-> play my cha for an hr
23:37:58 <Avatar> forget nokia, that is 1997-talk
23:37:59 <Mort-> Im going to get groceries :P
23:38:07 <Mort-> I dont like symbian system and I love whatsaps
23:38:10 <Mort-> and I love andchat
23:38:15 <Avatar> yeah yeah andchat
23:38:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, does YOUR phone have CA, IRC and Skype on it?
23:38:19 <Avatar> andchat on android
23:38:30 <Avatar> no, and I STILL like it better
23:38:36 <Avatar> it has IRC, and it can have skype
23:38:57 <Mekkis> on the plus side, I will be getting usage of a galaxy tab for programming
23:39:08 <Avatar> nice
23:39:09 <Mekkis> so I'll work on getting CA to work
23:39:09 <Mort-> anwyay I cant change phoens until 2 years later
23:39:22 <Avatar> there's strong potential in all the stuff that's come out
23:39:22 <Mekkis> on android
23:39:27 <Avatar> just need to find a solid way to use it
23:39:36 <Avatar> it's not really enough to just 'get it working'
23:39:42 <Mekkis> yeah
23:39:43 <Mort-> I think its quite skewed to miss 5-6 hrs of fun
23:39:45 <Avatar> but it's a start
23:39:46 <Mekkis> right clicking is hard
23:39:48 <Mort-> just cos my mom asked me to get groceries
23:39:49 <Mort-> for an hr :(
23:39:50 <Mort-> lol
23:40:00 <Mekkis> but it's enough for a player
23:40:01 <Avatar> the mobile version of right-click is long-tap
23:40:02 <Mort-> I tried persuading her that it might be better to get them on sunday//
23:40:07 <Mort-> but failed my diplo roll :P
23:40:08 <Mekkis> Avatar, incorrect
23:40:09 <Mort-> haha
23:40:09 <Avatar> but that would be painful in CA
23:40:25 <Mekkis> the mobile version of "display context menu" is long-tap
23:40:25 <Avatar> is it
23:40:50 <Avatar> yeah I guess that's right
23:41:02 <Mort-> I think Ill go to bed
23:41:02 <Avatar> maybe using volume keys is the way to do it
23:41:06 <Mort-> want to be upearly tomroorw sort of
23:41:21 <Mort-> so I can call the store guy, maybe get the stuff done so I can just drop in and..
23:41:24 <Mekkis> (I tried that: long-tap allows you to choose the direction of the triangles etc, but not to remove something)
23:41:28 <Mort-> oh beisdes, my kd in WOL is waving tonight sort of..
23:41:36 <Mekkis> I think best way is to just have a remove function
23:41:54 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm using volume keys for zoom in and out...]
23:42:15 <Avatar> do you ever need zoom
23:42:36 <Avatar> why wouldn't you use pinch to zoom
23:42:46 <Avatar> seems a hell of a lot more efficient than volume keys
23:43:28 <Mekkis> Avatar, on the version of CA I'm using here, I do use zoom
23:43:38 <Mekkis> on a phone, it's more necessary
23:44:05 <Mekkis> the reason I'm not using pinch-to-zoom is simply because Qt Symbian doesn't support it
23:44:40 <Mekkis> (mouse-wheel to zoom is fun...)
23:45:06 <Mekkis> Ballig, any chance I can get a copy of the latest unstable code?
23:45:18 <Mekkis> maybe this weekend?
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