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01:58 <Sachiru> @Barmaley Sometimes, certain spells and/or abilities require you to roll a die to check if you were affected by the spell/ability fully, partially or not at all. For example, Fireball, a spell that conjures a fireball, requires targets to roll a Reflex Save, to check if their reflexes were good enough that they were able to "dodge" the fireball and have less damage than if it were to, say, hit them full in the face.
03:17 <Sachiru> Your reflex, fortitude and will saves are bonuses to the above rolls. For example, say that the above fireball has a DC 15 reflex save to beat. That means that you will roll a twenty-sided die, and if the score that you get is 15 or above, you successfully save. If you have a reflex save of +2, for instance, you add 2 to the result of that reflex roll, and thus need to roll only a 13 to save, instead of 15.
03:46 <Mort-> Yeah
04:11 <Sachiru> Differing classes have differing save bonuses. For example, a rogue, being naturally agile and dexterous, has a high reflex save. A sorcerer or some other caster, having been conditioned to have great strength of will, has a high Will save.
04:32 <Sachiru> Generally, saves are divided in the following categories, although exceptions occur:
05:08 <Mort-> Some abilities let you take
05:12 <Mort-> No dmg
05:17 <Sachiru> Fortitude Saves are made against spells and/or effects that target a person's physical well-being. Poisons, diseases, curses that debilitate or spells that sap away strength or constitution usually entail a fortitude save.
05:55 <Sachiru> Reflex Saves are made against evade-able targeted effects, such as fireballs, lightning bolts, traps and ensnarements.
06:44 <Sachiru> Will saves are made against mental attacks, such as mind-control or hypnotic attempts, attempts to distract you or render you stupid, or spells or effects that intimidate you, such as Frightful Presence.
07:27 <Sachiru> No one class is good against all saves. Your selected class (monk), has, IIRC, good fortitude and reflex saves, meaning that you have excellent resilence against attacks to your body.
08:24 <Mort-> Evasion ftw
10:39 <Sachiru> Conversely, you have average to below-average will saves, making you susceptible to mental attacks. But don't worry, at low levels, you'd rarely encounter those (well, unless your DM is a sadist).
22:05 <Mort-> Liar :p
22:15 <Mort-> Monks have good will save
22:32 <Mort-> That bloody monk saved vs my colour spray :p
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59:46 <Barmaley> ah k thx
59:52 <Barmaley> i think im gonna use a pregenerated char
59:55 <Barmaley> this is too confusing
05:46 <Sachiru> Well.
06:01 <Sachiru> The key is not in how the character is built, but in how it is played.
08:30 <Barmaley> great, then i shall be kyra the cleric
08:41 <Barmaley> and see where my womanly emotional oscillations take me
26:48 <Avatar> sachiru
26:58 <Avatar> you are the absolute wrongest person to be saying that
27:07 <Avatar> nobody munchkins characters more than you do
27:39 <Avatar> Barmaley where did you get up to
27:59 <Sachiru> Whatever man.
28:22 <Sachiru> He wants help; I gave it to him. Didn't tell him to munchkin or whatever.
28:47 <Avatar> no but you're being a bit of a hypocrit by telling him not to when you always do
29:00 <Sachiru> How sure are you that I "munchkin" my characters?
29:05 <Sachiru> Have I played with you recently?
29:08 <Avatar> 110%
29:23 <Avatar> you usually come in here starting with a question that is how to best munchkin your next character
29:40 <Sachiru> Really?
29:43 <Sachiru> Care to share logs, then?
29:53 <Avatar> sure
29:57 <Avatar> when did come in last
32:49 <Avatar> do you really not remember
32:49 <Sachiru> So... Asking about what spells are swift actions is "munchkinning?
32:49 <Sachiru> If that is so, then *gasp* the quicken spell feat must be munchkinning!
32:49 <Barmaley> what does munchkin a character means?
32:49 <Barmaley> avatar, i got to the skills part and thats were i got confused
32:53 <Barmaley> spending skill points and stuff
34:12 <Avatar> ok uh
34:20 <Avatar> you get a certain amount of points to spend on your skills
34:35 <Avatar> based on your class, your int, and if you're a human
34:50 <Avatar> dwarven monk right?
35:19 <Barmaley> yep
35:30 <Avatar> what's your int
35:37 <Avatar> intelligence
35:51 <Avatar> or what are all your stats
36:22 <Avatar> monk gets 4 + your int mod / level
36:40 <Barmaley> i have no idea, i dont know where the stats are shown
36:58 <Avatar> top of the sheet
37:02 <Avatar> just under your vitals
37:34 <Avatar> of your character sheet
37:50 <Barmaley> ehm its just Xs, i thought im supposed to write those in myself
37:55 <Avatar> yeah you are
38:03 <Avatar> you have to decide what you want your stats to be before you do skills
38:14 <Avatar> go to uh
38:30 <Avatar> under chapter 2 of the PFS guide
38:33 <Avatar> step 1: abilities
38:41 <Avatar> there's a table there for how you spend your points in your abilities
38:53 <Avatar> you have 20 points to spend here
39:06 <Avatar> everything starts at 10
39:16 <Avatar> so if you want to make a stat 12, that'll cost you 2 points
40:05 <Barmaley> ah got it thx
40:18 <Avatar> have you read up on what the stats are for or do you want me to give you an overview
40:19 <Barmaley> so i lower one stat below 10
40:24 <Barmaley> do i get extra points to spend?
40:26 <Avatar> yep
40:37 <Avatar> some people will lower than to 7 or 8 for the extra points
40:42 <Avatar> especially sachiru
41:01 <Barmaley> you mean str, int, wis etc?
41:06 <Avatar> yeah
41:13 <Barmaley> well those are kinda selfexplanatory
41:20 <Barmaley> if they are like in other games
41:23 <Avatar> it's important to note that your ability score isn't what's important
41:29 <Avatar> it's the ability mod that is important
41:34 <Avatar> 10,11 is +1
41:35 <Avatar> er
41:37 <Avatar> +0
41:40 <Avatar> 12,13 is +1
41:42 <Avatar> 13,14 is +2
41:43 <Avatar> etc
41:49 <Barmaley> why is the mod important?
41:51 <Avatar> so you want to avoid the odd numbered scores
41:57 <Avatar> because that's all you ever use
42:02 <Avatar> with the exception of con
42:09 <Avatar> when you reach your negative con score, you die
42:20 <Avatar> for everything else it's mostly irrelevant
42:30 <Avatar> it's the +1 and +2 that you're trying to change
42:45 <Avatar> like you were looking at skills before right
42:58 <Avatar> every skill has an ability stat related to it
43:00 <Avatar> that gets added on
43:06 <Avatar> so if you try to use acrobatics, for example
43:09 <Avatar> you add your dex mod
43:17 <Avatar> which is the +1 or +2 or whatever
43:21 <Sachiru> Simply put, Ability Mod = Ability Score - 10 / 2, rounded up, for scores above 11.
43:35 <Avatar> and it's 1d20+1 that you roll to determine it
43:43 <Avatar> before putting skill points in to make them even better
44:09 <Avatar> does that make sense
44:18 <Barmaley> somewhat
44:25 <Avatar> just aim for even scores
44:28 <Avatar> worry about the rest later
44:46 <Avatar> str is for your melee attacks and how much you can carry
44:55 <Barmaley> which stats would you say is important for a monk?
44:59 <Avatar> dex is for how well you dodge attacks and shoot ranged weapons
45:07 <Avatar> con is your hp mostly
45:17 <Avatar> int is your skills and languages
45:35 <Avatar> wis is for a couple of key skills and one of your saves
45:46 <Avatar> cha is for your social skills
45:56 <Avatar> it's a bit more complicated than that, but for now that's all you need
46:09 <Avatar> monks specifically need wisdom
46:20 <Avatar> if you read up on monk in the core rulebook, you'll see why
46:28 <Barmaley> hmm yeah i just did a bit
46:28 <Avatar> so make sure you keep that as a high stat
46:35 <Avatar> you'll also want str and dex
46:36 <Barmaley> it looks like a complicated char
47:16 <Avatar> you can change class if you decide you don't like it
47:22 <Avatar> but when you do you'll also have to rejig your abilities
47:35 <Barmaley> ah k
47:41 <Barmaley> well ima try dwarven monk
47:50 <Avatar> spellcasters will need either int, wis or cha for example, depending on what type of spellcaster you are
48:32 <Avatar> remember for skills that it's 4+int / level for you
48:36 <Avatar> to determine how many you can spend
48:47 <Avatar> and I mean int mod, not int score
48:58 <Barmaley> ah one question though
49:10 <Barmaley> my skill is one number though, right?
49:20 <Avatar> right
49:28 <Barmaley> what do you meab by 12,13 is +1 and 13,14 is +2
49:33 <Barmaley> i mean if i have wis 13
49:39 <Barmaley> do i get +1 or +2?
49:41 <Avatar> sorry, 12,13 is +1
49:43 <Avatar> 14,15 is +2
49:46 <Avatar> 16,17 is +3
49:47 <Avatar> etc
49:51 <Avatar> I made a mistake 
49:54 <Barmaley> ah k
50:02 <Avatar> the modifier goes up on the even number
50:12 <Avatar> that's why that's what you want to aim for
50:49 <Avatar> you get an ability score increase every 4 levels, but you don't want to wait for that
51:02 <Avatar> do you have a name for your character yet?
51:07 <Barmaley> not yet
51:29 <Avatar> ok
51:30 <Barmaley> would you say having 14 wis is ok for my char?
51:43 <Avatar> I'd go higher personally, but do what you like 
51:50 <Avatar> you can change it later on ce you get a better understanding of the rest of the sheet
51:53 <Barmaley> k 16 then
53:19 <Barmaley> and then 14 for my con and 14 for my dex
53:26 <Barmaley> and thats my points spent i guess
55:08 <Barmaley> what does AC stand for?
55:57 <Barmaley> brb
11:36 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 11am (Avatar, new game) / Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) | CoTE: Sun 10am | CoED: Wed 8th Feb 9pm || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
11:36 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jan 16 11:50:18 2012
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55:13 <Barmaley> Fortitude: xx = +x(base) +mod (con)
55:28 <Barmaley> thats save of my class + the con mod?
55:53 <Barmaley> which means 2 + 3
19:28 <Avatar> yeah you've got it right
19:41 <Avatar> AC is armour class
19:49 <Avatar> attacks are rolled vs AC
20:00 <Avatar> the higher your AC, the less you get hit
20:25 <Avatar> touch AC is for attacks that ignore armour, or ray spells
20:37 <Avatar> flatfooted is for when you get caught off-guard, or before your first turn in combat
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10:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> str and cha are the main ones people drop to 8
10:43 <Avatar> but at level 10 it is
10:44 <Ballig> Mort-: it's not about just dumping everything
10:54 <Ballig> otherwise you end up being far too specialist
11:08 <Avatar> I would make sure to audit the inventory of anyone who dumps str
11:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
11:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> I would love to see someone audit a backpack
11:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> just to see if all that shit actually fits in it
12:05 <Jaggedsoul> Gogg has only Str and Con way up there
12:15 <Jaggedsoul> 20 str and 18 con
12:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
12:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> cause he's a fighter or barb right?
12:29 <Jaggedsoul> fighta
18:06 <Avatar> did you know that only humans and half-elves can take PFS-specific languages
18:37 <Jaggedsoul> now I do
18:49 <Avatar> kind of really sucks
19:00 <Avatar> I think languages in PFS is really not well looked after
24:24 <Ballig> where does it say that
24:28 <Ballig> because they're not on the racial list?
24:34 <Ballig> I think that's an odd interpretation
24:40 <Ballig> I don't think the racial list is meant to be campaign setting specific
38:18 <Avatar> looks like I misunderstood something
38:21 <Avatar> All Modern Human Languages (Inner Sea World Guide 251) may be learned by all characters regardless of race or class, either via ranks in Linguistics or as bonus languages due to high Intelligence. Ancient Languages may be learned by all characters regardless of race or class via ranks in Linguistics only or if granted through another legal source calling them out by name. Other Languages may be 
38:21 <Avatar> learned only if they are specifically listed as being available in a class's or race's description, or if granted by another legal source.
40:32 <Ballig> yeah
40:44 <Ballig> so you can't learn "Ancient Osiriani" with bonus languages
40:48 <Ballig> only linguistics
44:56 <Avatar> yeah
48:40 <Mort-> Aw
48:50 <Mort-> I can llearn it
49:42 <Avatar> didn't I do a writeup of all the languages for the site
52:59 <Brunius> Don't think so
53:08 <Avatar> I did, Ballig hasn't posted it
53:20 <Ballig> you didn't send it to me
53:24 <Avatar> yes I did
53:42 <Avatar> I just added in that description
53:49 <Ballig> a text file?
53:51 <Ballig> I'm not putting a text file up
54:09 <Avatar> I don't care where you put it, where do you think is appropriate
54:57 <Ballig> you need to come up with an idea
55:42 <Avatar> we need a PFS-specific section really
56:00 <Avatar> I guess that's what the newbie guide is
56:15 <Avatar> I'll have a better look
01:10 <Brunius> http://games.on.net/article/14678/Core_Gameplay_Designer_Leaves_Battlefield_3_Team
06:04 * Mort- gets excited for next dungeon romp
09:33 <Brunius> If we've got two tables on Thursday, I'll run First Steps II
09:55 <Avatar> I want to play in first steps 2, and I'm running one of those tables
11:02 <Brunius> Then I'd better get preparing the other scenario
14:57 <Avatar> actually, er
15:00 <Avatar> I haven't played the other one either
15:08 <Avatar> and the newbies are probably better served playing first steps
15:20 <Avatar> have you played part 1 or 3
15:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> I dunno, first steps 3 was dull
15:34 <Avatar> you're dull
17:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> it just seemed like there wasn't much danger in it
19:40 <Avatar> oh there was danger alright
20:20 <Brunius> I've played 2 and 3 but not 1
20:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure, but it wasn't like 'omg I'm gonna die if this attact/action/spell doesn't work'
20:56 <Ballig> it's meant to be an introduction to the game
21:09 <Ballig> if you think "omg I'm gonna die if this one action fails", that's a pretty harsh introduction
21:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> it would be
21:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> but it'd be more exciting
21:48 <Avatar> I'll run darkest vengeance for you
21:51 <Avatar> that's a little more dangerous
22:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> heard COTE is meant to be stupidly hard for level 1 characters
22:52 <Mort-> Lol
22:54 <Mort-> I uh
23:05 <Mort-> Have only one spray
23:17 <Mort-> But this time i hash mage armour!
23:28 <Avatar> are you talking about scrolls
23:52 <Mort-> Mem spell
24:04 <Mort-> And scroll
24:51 <Avatar> I'm not sure augment summoning is worth taking, on my summoner
25:29 <Mort-> Hm
25:31 <Ballig> triple word + x = awesome
25:40 <Mort-> Can you buy a wand of mage armor?
25:44 <Mort-> :d
25:50 <Ballig> you can, it'll cost 750 gold
25:53 <Ballig> and will last an hour each charge
26:04 <Avatar> or 2 prestige
26:15 <Mort-> Great
26:24 <Mort-> Next thing I'm going to get
26:31 <Mort-> Is that :d
28:56 <Avatar> you can afford that now with your prestige can't you
30:24 <Brunius> Ballig: DevCA-test version is the latest version right?
30:31 <Ballig> no
31:02 <Brunius> Is there an updated version I can get to organise the maps for Thursday?
31:43 <Ballig> the one on the website
31:46 <Ballig> build 323 I think
35:06 <Brunius> Cheers
40:16 <Mort-> I can
40:33 <Mort-> But save priestidge
40:38 <Mort-> For a raise dead day
40:55 <Mort-> Though its better not to die
41:30 <Brunius> I wonder if Darkest Vengeance is easier at 4-5
41:45 <Brunius> It might be geared for 4-5 then scaled back (badly) for 1-2
41:46 <Avatar> I'd say it would be, because then you're equipped to deal with it
42:08 <Brunius> Like Beggar's Pearl is geared for 1-2 then scaled forward (badly) for 4-5
42:10 <Avatar> even at level 4 or 5, I'd probably want to play tier 1-2
45:02 <Mort-> Synopsis seems to hint live foes
45:16 <Mort-> Probably involves a caster brawl
45:39 * Mort- hash longbow!
45:49 <Mort-> And 95 arrows
46:48 <Mort-> Might be outsiders
46:51 <Mort-> Unlikely ud
46:53 <Mort-> Hm
47:08 * Mort- looks at defensive weaponry
47:26 <Mort-> One memmed mage armor
47:35 <Ballig> weren't you the one saying that you shouldn't read about a scenario before doing it, Mort
47:40 <Mort-> One scroll of mage armor
47:54 <Mort-> I read syopsis only :p
48:02 <Mort-> Nothing else!
48:05 <Ballig> seems like the synopsis tells you a fair bit
48:33 <Mort-> Symopsis
48:33 <Mort-> Says go investiagate
48:36 <Mort-> A place with
48:45 <Mort-> That has been taken over by others
49:21 <Mort-> Id say i infer living things are down there conducting an infernal ritual!
50:04 <Ballig> you cheater
50:15 <Mort-> As far as my brain goes i have yet to see undead walk into a building and take it over without the casters institigation!
50:38 <Mort-> They tend to prefer to lurk in crypts!
51:05 <Mort-> Even necromancers prefer under ground places
51:15 <Mort-> Or maybe an abandoned tower
51:52 <Ballig> sorry, how does this prove you aren't cheating?
51:52 <Ballig> ;)
51:59 <Mort-> Oh ok
52:07 <Mort-> I shouldn't read ahead
52:08 <Mort-> :(
52:23 <Mort-> But most of it is guess work!
52:59 <Ballig> so? :p
53:04 <Mort-> Like that out door romp without my canvas so sucked!
53:43 <Mort-> I like to have erm civilized comforts
53:57 <Mort-> Even if i happen to be in some strange places!
54:03 <Mort-> Tea service would be good
54:11 <Mort-> So would a hot bath
54:36 <Mort-> A fire place would be even better
54:58 <Ballig> you knew you were going out into the wild
54:58 * Mort- ponders bags of holding and the possibility of having a house in there
55:02 <Ballig> you weren't just thrown there without preparation
55:07 <Mort-> Uh yeah :p
55:08 <Ballig> you just forgot to mention "hey, I'll take my canvas"
55:23 <Mort-> I got my furs
55:23 <Mort-> Not really
55:23 <Mort-> It was a weight problem
55:34 <Mort-> I was nearly full already
55:40 <Ballig> still can't blame not knowing enough of where you were going :p
55:59 <Mort-> So. You got a job to do. Sacrifices have to be made sometimes
56:24 <Mort-> Thus. Muleback cords this time round!
56:59 <Mort-> Now i can carry the world
57:04 <Mort-> But id say dnd
57:14 <Mort-> 80 percent of what you carry
57:17 <Mort-> You won't use
57:26 <Mort-> :p
57:46 <Mort-> But the 20 percent that you need to use - you get fked over :p
58:54 <Mort-> Yeah that sounds about right
00:59 <Avatar> if you guys weren't as new as you were I don't think I'd even allow you the random leniency roll I made to check to see if you actually would've brought it with you
01:20 <Mort-> Hm?
01:29 <Mort-> I bring everything with me?
01:36 <Avatar> when you left your horse behind
01:37 <Mort-> Except everything i put on horse?
01:39 <Mort-> Oh
01:43 <Avatar> you always assume what's on the horse stays on it if you leave it behind
01:47 <Mort-> Actually all stuff is with me
01:48 <Mort-> Yeah
01:54 <Avatar> yeah it's with you now miss muleback cords
01:57 <Mort-> So i didn't get my canvas anyway
02:10 <Mort-> Yup :d
02:26 <Mort-> I knew it would stay behind
03:02 <Avatar> yeah but there was some significant argument that you brought some stuff on it with you
03:33 <Mort-> Which item was that actually
03:37 <Avatar> the canvas
03:41 <Mort-> Oh yeah
03:43 <Mort-> :d
03:52 <Mort-> Didn't get it anyway
04:04 <Mort-> Which is fair :d
04:16 <Mort-> Ok going to have to pop off a while
04:23 <Mort-> At destinations
04:31 <Mort-> Walk in interview
22:50 <Avatar> if this summoner isn't done by tonight I won't be impressed
22:58 <Ballig> haha
23:37 <tristen> so you ARE going to play a summoner?
24:02 <tristen> it's been a hot topic around these parts lately...
24:17 <tristen> actually i should ask:
24:27 <tristen> have you been allowed to play a summoner?
25:18 <Ballig> isn't a matter of being allowed
25:37 <Ballig> no one can tell him he's not allowed to play anything that is PFS-legal
25:38 <tristen> heheh yeah i was just being facetious
25:42 <Ballig> :p
26:08 <tristen> so avatar is going for it?
26:14 <tristen> rolling up teh summoner?
26:28 <Ballig> he's been making one for three days
26:38 <Ballig> and it was actually the "master summoner" archetype that Mekkis was saying should only be played by an experienced player
26:52 <Ballig> (Avatar is experienced, he just takes a while to decide things)
26:56 <tristen> pffft if he fucks it up he fucks it up
27:11 <tristen> and if he takes ages to do rolls and stuff
27:16 <Ballig> the idea is meant to be that a master summoner can have 5, 10 or 15 creatures under his control
27:22 <Ballig> which can take ages in combat and slow things down for everyone
27:27 <tristen> he can make use of diebot to make that easier
27:54 <Avatar> yeah I do plan to play the summoner
28:05 <tristen> and jolly good i say!
28:06 <Avatar> at a minimum I just wanted to roll one up
29:10 <tristen> yep - i suppose you could work out all the attack rolls for all of the creatures
29:17 <tristen> and save a macro for each in advance
29:38 <tristen> and demonstrate you can whip through the attack rolls with reasonable speed
29:44 <tristen> easy
30:20 <Ballig> it's decisions on what he wants each of those 15 things to do
30:25 <Ballig> not about rolling
31:01 <tristen> so that's where experience comes into it
31:23 <tristen> do the creatures function with the same level of int as the summoner?
31:44 <tristen> ie: do the exact bidding of the summoner ?
32:19 <Ballig> dunno
33:29 <tristen> no worries, i can read about it
33:38 <tristen> so what's the go tomorrow night?
33:47 <tristen> whoops
33:50 <tristen> not tomorrow night
33:56 <tristen> 8th feb?
36:20 <Thelen> 19th
37:06 <tristen> hey thelen
37:13 <tristen> how's hitomi?
37:15 <tristen> lvl 2 yet?
39:19 <Mort-> Didn't work out
39:23 <Mort-> I'm back
40:11 <Avatar> hitomi should be approaching level 3
40:26 <Avatar> actually he is level 3, he levelled up after WBG the other night
40:35 <Mort-> Ooh
40:47 <Mort-> Hitomi is a ranger?
40:51 <Avatar> fighter
40:54 <Mort-> Oh
41:16 <Mort-> I only remember atrimus is a cleric
41:28 <Mort-> I tend to remember clerics :p
41:41 <Mort-> Tasiv is a ranger
50:12 <Ballig> I probably kept you alive !!
50:24 <Mort-> Uh
50:43 <Mort-> I never got nicked the entire scenario...
50:54 * Mort- grins at ballig
51:55 <Ballig> yeah because I was there
51:57 <Ballig> keeping you alive
53:53 <Mort-> Uh well i guess ^^
54:02 <Mort-> Hiding behind you ^^
55:20 <Avatar> is there any reason you would ever use a sling
55:33 <Avatar> because it's free?
55:45 <Mort-> Simple weapon?
55:55 <Mort-> Can everyone use xbow?
55:58 <Avatar> light xbows are simple weapons
56:06 <Mort-> Blunt ranged
56:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> I believe everyone, though I'm not sure about monk
56:20 <Avatar> does bludgeoning damage ever matter for anything
56:23 <Mort-> Sometimes you have monsters resistant 
56:29 <Mort-> Technically
56:50 <Mort-> Skeletons have dr 5/bludgeoning
57:04 <Mort-> So if you had an issue with those buggers
57:11 <Mort-> Use something blunt
57:55 <Mort-> Which is why theses days i carry a quarterstaff as well
00:41 <Avatar> fair enough, that explains it
01:05 <Mort-> Dmg sucks though
01:14 <Mort-> But better then not landing
01:37 <Mort-> Though if i could choose it would be ranged disrupt undead heh
07:02 <Avatar> bloody hell
07:05 <Avatar> ANOTHER brilliant steak
07:10 <Avatar> I don't know what to do with myself sometimes
07:19 <Avatar> they're just so damn good
07:37 <Avatar> why was I cursed with knowing how to make such good steaks
09:41 <Mort-> What?
09:43 <Mort-> Steak? :p
09:43 * Mort- nibbles avatar
09:48 <MekkiSScreen> becomes a chef
10:28 <Avatar> can't become a chef, that's about all I can make
10:31 <Avatar> that and caesar salads
13:53 <AndChat|> Gosh
14:23 <Avatar> andchat is pretty good aye
14:28 <Avatar> I donated for that one
14:35 <mort-> Haha
14:36 <Avatar> well it's not called donating, is it
14:37 <Avatar> I paid for it
14:48 <mort-> I didn't pay a cent
14:52 <mort-> Its free :d
14:56 <Avatar> you should
14:59 <Avatar> it's a top-notch app
15:02 <mort-> And my how do you kill a vampire
15:03 <mort-> Yeah
15:04 <Avatar> I didn't have to
15:13 <Avatar> magic missile
15:14 <mort-> Stakes ><
15:18 <mort-> No
15:23 <mort-> They don't did
15:24 <mort-> Die
15:30 <Avatar> oh
15:46 <Avatar> just keep pouring holy water on him
15:57 <Avatar> keep him at the bottom of a holy water fountain
16:05 <mort-> Slaying a Vampire
16:17 <mort-> Yeah i have 2 jugs of that stuff
16:20 <mort-> No more
16:26 <Avatar> a cleric can handle it
16:30 <Avatar> create water and uh
16:35 <mort-> How about we all pour our waterskins on it?
16:35 <Avatar> sanctify water or whatever it is
16:48 <Avatar> you don't need to fully immerse his body anyway
16:52 <Avatar> a level 1 cleric can create enough water for it
16:53 <mort-> Yeah from our water skins
17:01 <Avatar> no out of thin air !!
17:15 <mort-> Need to prepare spell?
17:24 <mort-> But yes i have holy water.
17:25 <Avatar> yeah, but it's a cantrip
17:33 <mort-> 2 jug fulls
17:34 <Avatar> well create water is
17:54 <mort-> Remind me not to go to the nearest spook spot
17:58 <mort-> Without a cleric
18:14 <mort-> Oh i wanted to ask you a question
18:32 <Avatar> good
18:34 <Avatar> I like questions
18:36 <mort-> Can you use an ax for miscallaeous stuff
18:51 <Avatar> what is miscellaneous stuff
18:56 <mort-> Without martial proficiency
19:11 <Avatar> if it requires an attack roll, you still take the penalty
19:14 <mort-> You want to hack that tree down
19:18 <mort-> For fire wood
19:29 <Avatar> I think those are automatic hits
19:32 <mort-> You got a pole and want to hack it into bits
19:38 <mort-> To use as stakes
19:46 <mort-> Stuff like that
19:57 <Avatar> oh uh 
19:59 <mort-> Remind me to get a pole :p
20:02 <Avatar> you roll against the AC of the object
20:05 <mort-> Make shift stakes ftw
20:25 <Avatar> I don't think you 'miss' it, but you can its 'armour'
20:51 <Avatar> *hit its armour
21:16 <mort-> Actually
21:20 <mort-> In an emergency
21:28 <mort-> Id use my longsword
21:44 <mort-> On my quarterstaff
21:58 <mort-> Chop into bits and use as stake
23:16 <mort-> I rather not use holy water
23:46 <mort-> Though chances are i would never be able to get a vampire on the ground even to use a stake on him
23:51 <mort-> I get pwned first
23:58 <mort-> Not at this level
24:43 <Avatar> you'd rather not use holy water to chop down a tree?
25:32 <mort-> Holy water i only have 2 jugs :p
25:37 <mort-> Limited resource :p
25:53 <mort-> Not sure if 2 jugs would be endugg
25:54 <mort-> Enough
26:02 <mort-> Its 3 rounds
26:10 <Ballig> is this an undead tree
26:32 <mort-> No its my quarterstaff made of wood :p
26:45 <Ballig> an undead quarterstaff?
27:00 <mort-> No just a piece of wood
27:11 <mort-> I'm assuming if i got a vampire on the ground
27:16 <mort-> How would i kill it
27:18 <Ballig> what
27:24 <Brunius> Cut it's throat.
27:24 <Avatar> is holy water flammable
27:27 <Brunius> Nope
27:28 <Brunius> It's water
27:31 <Ballig> coup de grace
27:42 <mort-> I have 2 jugs of holy water :d
27:47 <Avatar> flammable holy water might be able to destroy a piece of wood
27:56 <mort-> Lol
28:12 <mort-> Cutting of its head works..
28:16 <Avatar> mix it up with a bit of umm
28:25 <Avatar> what's the fantasy equivalent of fuel
28:32 <Avatar> kerosene?
28:40 <Avatar> alcohol!
28:42 <Brunius> Oil.
28:47 <Avatar> or oil
28:51 <Ballig> black powder
28:52 <Ballig> ha ha
28:58 <Avatar> mix some of that in with the holy water
29:01 <Avatar> that tree won't know what hit it
29:15 <Avatar> well it will, it'll be burning
29:29 <Avatar> good thinking mort
29:55 <mort-> ever, it returns to life if the stake is removed, unless the body is destroyed. A popular tactic is to cut off the creature’s head and fill its mouth with holy wafers (or their equivalent).
30:12 <mort-> I have a longsword i guess
30:19 <Avatar> yeah or there's the longsword
30:20 <mort-> I alwap have oil
30:27 <mort-> Hahaha
30:54 <mort-> So i lop off his head and pour holy water into his mouth
31:17 <mort-> Geddit
31:43 * mort- makes another entry into her list of monsters book
32:11 * mort- flips the page to the undead page
32:58 <mort-> It says standard operating procedure when dealing with undead. Use disrupt undead and engage at range
33:22 <mort-> Do not use holy water unless your faced with overwhelming odds
33:27 <mort-> 3 or more
33:42 <mort-> Use stick on skeleton at close range
33:56 <mort-> And longsword on zombies
34:32 <mort-> Undead usually have a ton of status inflicting attacks. Good luck and all the best
35:28 <mort-> Wow
52:26 <Brunius> Ballig, which graphics card do you have at the moment?
52:47 <Ballig> uhm
52:49 <Ballig> what are my options
52:59 <Avatar> graphics card #1, #2 or #3
53:03 <Brunius> What graphics card are you currently running in your computer?
53:05 <Ballig> #2
53:39 <Ballig> it's a radeon 9600-something
55:05 <mort-> Sometimes using too good a graphics card
55:12 <mort-> On a noob comp
55:20 <mort-> Causes it to overheat
55:39 <Ballig> that's just a matter of having adequate cooling
55:42 <Ballig> my case has awesome cooling
56:41 <Ballig> I think it's a 9650 or 9670
58:28 <mort-> Hm
58:40 <mort-> My brother did it on our old comp
58:45 <mort-> And it over heated :(
59:01 <Brunius> Don't think they make 96xxs
59:08 <Brunius> Do you mean a 69xx?
59:22 <Brunius> Get better cooling
59:28 <Brunius> Or just leave the case open
59:53 <Ballig> er
59:54 <Ballig> maybe
00:17 <Ballig> yeah 6900
00:19 <Ballig> I read it wrong both times
00:19 <Ballig> :p
04:00 <Ballig> why do you want to know what graphics card I use
04:11 <Brunius> Just curious...
04:50 <Ballig> you can't have it :(
06:07 <mort-> Mine! All mine! :p
19:07 <Avatar> guys settle
19:15 <Avatar> mort can have #1 and brunius can have #3
19:17 <Avatar> everyone wins
20:24 <mort-> Kidding :)
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30:02 <Avatar> man it's painful if you want a chain shirt in your first scenario
30:11 <Avatar> 100gp for the chain shirt and 50gp to spend on other stuff
30:22 <Avatar> maybe I should start with a sling instead of a light xbow
30:28 <Avatar> man
30:35 <Avatar> I was scrounging around for a trait that gives me ride as a class skill
30:40 <Avatar> after a while I finally found one
30:45 <Avatar> then I realised I already get it as a class skill anyway
30:49 <mort-> Your going t
30:57 <mort-> To be a summoner?
31:01 <Ballig> haha
31:10 <mort-> Do they even wear armor?
31:14 <Ballig> "x as a class skill" is an incredible bonus for a trait
31:17 <Ballig> that even feats can't give you
31:17 <Ballig> Avatar: I knew I was setting you up for a huge bonus
31:23 <Avatar> I have been thinking about that
31:29 <Avatar> it's actually not as great as you think 
31:34 <Avatar> because in pathfinder it just means a +3 bonus
31:48 <Avatar> if it was 3.5 it would be incredible, because that's a huge savings on ranks
31:52 <Ballig> yeah but a feat only gives you +2 two somewhat related skills
32:01 <Ballig> so for a trait to give you +1 in two skills AND make one of them a class skill
32:02 <Avatar> it's usually +2 on two skills
32:03 <Ballig> that's pretty great
32:08 <Avatar> or +3 on one
32:12 <mort-> Lol
32:16 <Ballig> those traits give +1 in two skills too
32:24 <Avatar> +2 on two skills with a feat
32:25 <Avatar> yeah they have light armor proficiency
32:31 <Ballig> it's almost always "you get +1 in blah skill and blah skill, and one of those is always a class skill for you"
32:33 <Avatar> and you can have it a class skill on top of that
32:36 <Avatar> and aren't affected by arcane spell failure with it
32:42 <mort-> Why do you need so much ride?
32:42 <Ballig> you aren't listening to me :p
32:50 <Avatar> you're not listening to me!
32:52 <Ballig> feat: +2 in two skills
32:56 <mort-> Wow that's so cool
32:57 <Ballig> trait: +1 in two skills, plus one is made a class skill
32:59 <Avatar> mort-: I plan to ride my eidolon later
33:01 <Ballig> traits are /meant/ to be half of a feat
33:15 <Avatar> it sounds like it, but summoners don't get many spells
33:22 <mort-> Don't worry come adventuring with me :d
33:23 * mort- munches pop corn and watches fireworks
33:31 <mort-> Ill have tons of stuff!
33:35 <Avatar> you have to look at the final product, that isn't enough
33:37 <mort-> I always thought unless you are cavalier
33:44 <Ballig> it is enough
33:45 <Avatar> let's say you put a rank in the appropriate skill as well
33:45 <Avatar> I think summoners are pretty well balanced, as long as they aren't synthesists
33:48 <Ballig> +1 in two skills is half of +2 in two skills
33:51 <Ballig> but +1 in two skills and one is a class skill
33:53 <Ballig> is more than half
33:56 <mort-> Torches. Rope
34:03 <mort-> Combat should be done on foot! :p
34:05 <mort-> You name it i got it :d
34:13 <Avatar> feat: +2 in two skills, +1 rank, +3 class
34:21 <Ballig> er?
34:24 <Ballig> the feat doesn't make anything a class skill
34:27 <Avatar> traits +1 trait bonus, +1 in two skills, +1 rank, +3 class
34:29 <Avatar> everyone has torches and rope
34:46 <mort-> Great knowledge rolls for most stuff except engineering and nobility :p
34:49 <mort-> But if i were you avatar i would have my eidolon take the shape of a Chinese dragon
34:50 <Avatar> yeah that's true, it's only for class skills
34:52 <mort-> :d
34:55 <Ballig> that's what I'm saying
35:00 <Ballig> the "make it a class skill" thing is what is incredible
35:03 <Ballig> that even a feat doesn't do that
35:09 <mort-> Climbing kit
35:15 <Ballig> find me a feat that gives you as big a bonus to perception as the osirion trait does
35:17 <mort-> Grappling arrow
35:18 <mort-> Oil
35:19 <mort-> Flour
35:21 <Ballig> except the one that requires keen senses racial trait to begin with
35:21 <mort-> ^^
35:23 * mort- doesn't understand but never mind
35:28 <Avatar> you really like those muleback cords
35:37 <mort-> I have to get them
35:39 <Avatar> mort-: you can't do that kind of thing until level 10
35:42 <mort-> Or i can't function
35:47 <Avatar> just put things on your horse
35:52 <mort-> Probably
35:56 <mort-> And aw
35:57 <mort-> Look at the stuff I'm carrying
36:04 <Avatar> I'm sure your horse can carry it
36:05 <mort-> Even on horse it won't work
36:08 <mort-> Itd just be the cool factor
36:12 <mort-> Last scenario
36:13 <Avatar> horses can carry stupid amounts of gera
36:18 <mort-> Or make it look like a unicorn :d
36:18 <Avatar> last scenario was different
36:21 <Avatar> exception to the rule
36:25 <mort-> Always wanted a unicorn mount
36:27 <mort-> I had to live without all my out door gear :(
36:31 <Ballig> just be a druid
36:33 <Ballig> and get a roc
36:41 <Avatar> you could have bought muleback cords at the beginning of that scenario
36:46 <mort-> Uh probably not available?
36:49 <mort-> And i can't carry my climbing kit into a dungeon
36:49 <Avatar> too late to buy them after
36:53 <mort-> Not enough money
36:53 <Avatar> scenario is finished
36:56 <mort-> Before
36:58 <mort-> Yeah but you miss all the fun on the ground
36:58 <mort-> :p
37:05 <mort-> While your up in the air
37:08 <mort-> So I'm making sure it doesn't happen again
37:18 <Avatar> that's pathfinder thinking right there
37:42 <mort-> ?
37:45 <Avatar> you can make it a unicorn
37:46 <Avatar> not sure if I should buy a chain shirt now or just studded leather
37:57 <Avatar> wouldn't even be hard, you could probably do that at 1st level
37:57 <Avatar> 75gp difference for something I know I will throw away later
38:03 <mort-> Ah ok
38:09 <Avatar> a quadruped with a horn
38:18 <mort-> You won't get cool stuff till level 3?
38:22 <Avatar> maybe make it a mount if you want a rideable unicorn
38:38 <Avatar> I will probably get mithril later
39:18 <Brunius> Get studded
39:21 <Ballig> can you get a horn attack evolution
39:25 <Avatar> yeah
39:25 <Avatar> you reckon
39:29 <Avatar> it's only 75gp
39:32 <Brunius> Yeah
39:34 <Brunius> I reckon
39:40 <mort-> Haha
39:40 <Avatar> are you rattling my chain
40:14 <mort-> Hm
40:16 <Avatar> Gore
40:39 <mort-> Besides horses what can medium races ride
40:42 <mort-> Curious
40:50 <mort-> Under normal circumstances
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41:07 <Avatar> the description actually says 'a number of horns'
41:15 <Avatar> so while you'd only ever get one attack, I suppose you could have more than one
41:18 <mort-> One :p
41:28 <mort-> White with green eyes
41:29 <Avatar> with a single evolution of it
42:16 <mort-> Level 10 you get it to do the Chinese dragon thing
42:25 <Avatar> check this out
42:28 <Avatar> with carrying capacity
42:34 <Avatar> small creatures carry 3/4 of the weights listed
42:52 <Avatar> I thought that seemed like a loophole for small creatures with the same str scores as medium creatures to carry the same amounts
43:21 <Brunius> Shit really
43:40 <Avatar> yeah
44:09 <Brunius> That means Kaleb is 0.25lb over
44:35 <Avatar> just toss something
44:38 <Avatar> or buy some muleback cords
44:59 <Brunius> I probably don't need that dagger anymore
46:22 <Avatar> sell that beotch off
46:22 <Brunius> Or I could get rid of one of my wrist sheathes
46:22 <Brunius> Hmmm
46:27 <Avatar> hempen rope is pretty heavy at 10lb
46:43 <Brunius> I've got silk already
46:59 <Avatar> ditching my rope I'm at 31.5
47:04 <Avatar> and I can only carry 32
47:08 <Avatar> for light load
47:12 <Brunius> Ha
47:21 <Brunius> Get some muleback cords :P
47:21 <Avatar> I might get a monk outfit
47:25 <Avatar> the explorer's outfit is 8lb as well
47:30 <Avatar> I've got 0 exp
47:30 <Ballig> I bet you wish you went with 6 strength
47:37 <Avatar> yeah I wish 
47:38 <Brunius> Your initial outfit doesn't count towards weight allowance
47:43 <Brunius> Everyone knows that
47:44 <Avatar> oh doesn't it
47:45 <Ballig> I did tell you that you would freak out with 6 strength
47:51 <Brunius> It doesn't
47:56 <Avatar> I wouldn't go with chain mail if I had 6 str
48:04 <Mekkis> Nightmare has 5 str :)
48:10 <Ballig> what would your weight capacity be with 6 strength as a small creature?
48:12 <Ballig> 16*0.75
48:14 <Avatar> is Nightmare small
48:17 <Mekkis> yes
48:19 <Ballig> 12 pounds
48:21 <Ballig> you could carry a rope
48:24 <Ballig> and nothing else
48:28 <Avatar> so Nightmare can carry 7.5lb 
48:32 <Mekkis> he's on a heavy load :)
48:36 <Ballig> he gets his eidolon's strength
48:43 <Avatar> wow that's news to me
49:05 <mort-> Now you know
49:10 <Avatar> everything on your sheet seems to be wrong about that
49:20 <Avatar> it says you're on a medium load, it says light load is 16lb or less
49:25 <mort-> Why i got those chords?
49:41 <Avatar> that's just what I've picked up glancing at it
50:10 <Avatar> I wonder what else I would pick up if it was more readable !
53:17 <mort-> Where does it say
53:34 <mort-> Summoner shares eidolons stats
54:02 <Avatar> synthesist summoner, it's an archetype 
57:00 <mort-> Isn't it a bit too powerful?
57:00 <mort-> Your basically in the body of a tank
57:00 <Avatar> outrageously
57:03 <mort-> With your own higher caster stats?
57:13 <Mekkis> not really
57:21 <Mekkis> you're starved for both feats and actions
57:43 <Avatar> why did you put any ability points into dex and con
58:08 <Mekkis> why shouldn't I?
58:16 <Avatar> if you use eidolon stats for that
58:17 <Avatar> because you use your eidolon's stats
58:26 <mort-> You and your pet are one
58:29 <Mekkis> because that's how he was
58:33 <mort-> Both of you are never apart
58:44 <Avatar> what do you mean that's how he was
59:01 <Mekkis> Nightmare had con and dex
59:07 <Mekkis> that's why he has con and dex
59:08 <mort-> Imo it shouldn't be a permanent ability to be able to be one with your eidolon
59:19 <mort-> You can drop it all the way?
59:37 <mort-> And use the eidolons as your own
59:41 <Avatar> so roleplay, basically
59:48 <Mekkis> you wouldn't understand
00:00 <Avatar> well that's why I'm asking
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01:00 <mort-> If i were him
01:17 <mort-> I would drop physical stats to crap
01:30 <mort-> Increase cha like crazy
01:47 <Spaceshot> this for avatar's character?
01:49 <Avatar> yes it seems like that would be a pretty solid option for every synthesist, unless you were keeping them higher for roleplay reasons
01:55 <Avatar> mekkis' synthesist
02:01 <Spaceshot> oh
02:01 <Spaceshot> yea
02:33 <mort-> But what happens
02:34 <Spaceshot> synthesist's should drop physical stats if they make sure they keep the eidolon suit alive
02:41 <mort-> When he
03:02 <mort-> Walks into an antimagic field?
03:16 <mort-> What happens to his eidolon
03:22 <mort-> And with him in it
03:24 <Spaceshot> can eidolon's exist in an antimagic field?
03:50 <Avatar> I think it's a supernatural ability
03:59 <Spaceshot> it's somewhat like a familiar
04:06 <Spaceshot> do familiars exist in antimagic fields?
04:10 <Brunius> You're the one with the book, Avatar
04:22 <Avatar> you have the book too, brunius
04:42 <Brunius> I don't have the one with summoner in it
04:51 <mort-> Familiars are normal creatures
04:52 <Avatar> you didn't get the APG?
04:59 <Brunius> Nope
05:02 <Brunius> Not the ISWG either
05:03 <Avatar> not even a pirated pdf of it?
05:04 <mort-> Like my weasel is perfectly flesh and blood
05:05 <Brunius> Nope
05:15 <Avatar> why not
05:30 <Brunius> I've got cash going towards other stuff
05:31 <Spaceshot> that doesn't sound the brightest brunius
05:34 <Brunius> Like, say, Arcanacon
05:46 <Brunius> And paying spaceshot
05:47 <Spaceshot> so pirated copies cost money these days?
05:54 <Brunius> I don't want a pirated copy
05:59 <Spaceshot> why not?
06:05 <Brunius> I can never read pdfs properly
06:15 <Spaceshot> you and your crt
06:17 <Avatar> fair enough I guess
06:25 <Brunius> If I'm going to use something for a game, I want a hard copy
06:31 <Avatar> I think eidolons act like an animal companion
06:36 <Brunius> It's not just the CRT Spaceshot
06:42 <Brunius> I've tried it on digital screens too
06:44 <Avatar> it's not defined as either supernatural, extraordinary or spell-like
06:50 <mort-> Id say familiars can exsist in anti magic fields
06:53 <Brunius> Speaking of CRT's, I'm off to solder stuff
06:54 <Brunius> Later
06:58 <mort-> Just don't try summoning one there
07:01 <mort-> Heh
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07:13 <mort-> But an eidolon
07:14 <Avatar> there's two ways to summon it, a spell or a ritual
07:27 <mort-> Is more like a magical construct
07:29 <mort-> Imo
07:52 <Spaceshot> I'd say an eidolon would work in a antimagic field, so would the suit.
07:52 <Spaceshot> but if you try to summon it anyway possible, you'd be out of luck
08:23 <Spaceshot> also, you might not be able to go from eidolon to eidolon suit in the field, but if you walk into the field with the suit on I'd say you'd be fine
08:39 <mort-> I wouldn't try summon anything in an anti magic field
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15:28 <mort-> If eidolons cannot exsist in an anti magic field
15:58 <mort-> Then nightmare will collapse from the weight of his gear the moment he steps into one
18:14 <Brunius> Actually, Ballig, they do make 96xx
18:23 <Brunius> They're just old
18:26 <Ballig> ha
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24:13 <Avatar> just a class ability
34:57 <Avatar> apparently sling bullets weigh almost 1kg each
35:40 <Avatar> (or 5lb for 10)
38:17 <Brunius> No
38:18 <Avatar> to get me to buy shittier armor
38:20 <mort-> How much for mithril
38:21 <Brunius> Get Studded
38:22 <Brunius> It's better
38:29 <Brunius> +1000 for light mort
38:30 <Avatar> you are rattling my chain
38:33 <Brunius> +4000 for medium
38:34 <mort-> Actually
38:38 <Brunius> No Avatar
38:40 <mort-> I think i would get chain
38:41 <Brunius> I am srs
38:44 <Ballig> that's 1/4 kg
38:45 <Avatar> why studded
38:54 <mort-> Might be a while before he can wear that
38:56 <Brunius> Less armour check penalty
39:01 <Brunius> Which character is this for anyway
39:04 <Avatar> it's only -2
39:06 <Avatar> my summoner
39:18 <Brunius> Don't they cast arcane spells?
39:25 <Avatar> they aren't affected by it with light armour
39:25 <Avatar> sorry, 1lb = 0.45kg
39:27 <Brunius> What's the difference in % failure?
39:29 <Brunius> Ah
39:33 <Ballig> yeah
39:38 <Ballig> and each one is 0.5lb
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39:42 <Avatar> yeah I got it wrong
39:45 <Ballig> you sure did
39:47 <Ballig> !!
39:48 <Avatar> man that makes more sense
39:48 <Ballig> sup Alex
41:09 <Spaceshot> I sware my torrenting is killing my stable connection XD
43:38 <mort-> Ow
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08:54 <Avatar> Mekkis: where does it say you can change your base form at level up?
09:01 <Avatar> I can only see where it says you can change your evolutions
15:09 * mort- pretends to be an eidolon
15:32 <Avatar> it's quite an experience rolling up a summoner
15:38 <Avatar> I'd recommend anyone try it at least once
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20:53 <mort->  eidolon takes a form shaped by the summoner’s desires. The eidolon’s Hit Dice, saving throws, skills, feats, and abilities are tied to the summoner’s class level and increase as the summoner gains levels. In
21:12 <mort-> So it means you can switch forms whenever you like?
21:21 <mort-> I agree
21:30 <mort-> And i would like a winged serpent mount
21:32 <mort-> Haha
21:42 <mort-> Or maybe a winged unicorn :p
22:32 <Avatar> eidolon is technically neither extraordinary, supernatural, spell-like or a spell
22:51 <Avatar> serpents only have a 20ft speed though
37:30 <mort-> Aw
40:12 <Avatar> if I can't change the base form at level up, I'll need to go with a quadruped build 
40:34 <mort-> Why?
41:42 <Avatar> I plan to ride it later
41:53 <mort-> You can ride serpents
41:55 <mort-> As well
41:59 <Avatar> I don't know if a 20ft speed will cut it
42:04 <mort-> Oh true
42:06 <Avatar> maybe it will 
52:22 <mort-> You caster no have to move so much
52:34 <mort-> But winged unicorns are cool
52:58 <Avatar> I'm not really much of a caster
53:10 <Avatar> about as much of a caster as a ranger or a druid is
53:11 <mort-> Problem is summoner spell line looks like wizard with conjuration only
53:35 <mort-> Druids are good casters
53:53 <mort-> But umd not a class skill for conjurers right?
54:06 <mort-> Else you can fire away with wizard spells
57:01 <mort-> I think once you and your eidolon are one
57:16 <Thelen> cool
57:32 <Avatar> you're damn right
01:53 <Thelen> damn server this vps is on has gone haywire
01:56 <Thelen> can't rdp to it any more >_>
02:01 <Thelen> so waiting for keyboard driver to load lol
05:11 <Ballig> how long does it take to load a keyboard driver
05:53 <Mekkis> you start by calling someone in the US to plug a keyboard in
08:44 <Spaceshot> will austnet be joining in on the 24 SOPA protest?
09:17 <Avatar> no
09:23 <Avatar> hey I just remembered
09:30 <Avatar> Thelen: can you extend mekkis' contract for 23 months
09:47 <Mekkis> Thelen, can you say you extended my contract for 23 months?
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10:52 <Ballig> do you have a printer Brunius
10:55 <Brunius> And thus Brunius soldered the contacts together, forever ending the age of screwdriver startups
10:59 <Brunius> Yes, why?
12:16 <Avatar> it would suck to be at school, own a computer but no printer
12:42 <Brunius> What's the point of this debate?
12:48 <Ballig> what debate
13:01 <Avatar> no point really
13:05 <Avatar> but now it's your turn to do the negative
13:12 <Mekkis> Avatar, do you need anything printed out for Arc?
13:22 <Avatar> no I have a printer now
13:39 <Avatar> ironic right, while I had a job, I had to get my printouts done at work
13:44 <Avatar> now that I'm unemployed, I can do them myself
13:48 <Brunius> Haha
14:01 <Brunius> In that case can you print my chronicle sheets Avatar
14:18 <Avatar> can't you print the
14:19 <Avatar> m
14:40 <Brunius> I'd have to wait for a day when both mum and dad are out
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14:52 <Avatar> they won't let you print chronicle sheets?
15:01 <Ballig> haha
15:03 <Brunius> More like we have little to no paper
15:30 <Mekkis> Brunius, want be to bring them down for you then?
15:50 <Ballig> it costs like $2 to get a ream of 500
15:51 <Avatar> it's like $2 for 500 sheets
15:51 <Avatar> at a supermarket
15:51 <Ballig> yeah
15:51 <Avatar> don't bother going to officeworks
15:51 <Ballig> grab it and put it in the trolley next time your mum is at the store
15:51 <Brunius> Maybe I should fix the printer and demand that I get to print 4 sheets as compensation
15:51 <Avatar> yeah haha
15:51 <Avatar> man don't do that
15:54 <Avatar> demand that they buy a new ream of paper as compensation
15:59 <Ballig> hey Mekkis, are you there
16:00 <Avatar> not 4 sheets
16:07 <Mekkis> sort of
16:12 <Brunius> We've probably got the paper somewhere
16:14 <Mekkis> my client's pretty limited atm
16:15 <Ballig> what is sort of
16:28 <Brunius> It's just a matter of bullying them into letting me print
16:47 <Avatar> I got the impression your dad understands tabletop RPGs
16:57 <Ballig> Mekkis: how do religion traits work
16:59 <Avatar> why would they hold you back at all
17:15 <Mekkis> they're based on background
17:23 <Ballig> how so
17:58 <Brunius> Avatar open command prompt
18:01 <Brunius> Then type telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu
18:05 <Brunius> It is amazing
18:12 <Brunius> Sort of
18:38 <Mekkis> how is it amazing, Brunius?
18:45 <Brunius> It isn't
18:49 <Ballig> Mekkis: what do you mean religion traits are based on background
19:08 <Mekkis> your background has to involve the religion
19:08 <Brunius> It'd be better if command prompt didn't suck
19:18 <Ballig> doesn't your current faith have to involve the religion
19:52 <Avatar> windows 7 doesn't seem to recognise telnet as a command
20:04 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's not installed by default
20:24 <Avatar> I can use putty I guess
21:54 <Mekkis> Ballig, I know what you're getting at, and I'll look into it over this week, ok?
29:51 <mort-> I don't even know the dietys on absalom:(
30:38 <Brunius> Abadar
30:44 <Brunius> Iomaedae
30:54 <Brunius> Torag
31:47 * mort- boggles
32:06 <mort-> Who are the equivalents of mystra
33:23 <mort-> Or meilikki
33:43 <mort-> Mielikki
33:50 <mort-> Ah damn spelling on cell
34:00 <Brunius> I dunno
34:28 <Brunius> http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?search=Deities&ns0=1&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=Search&fulltext=Search
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37:50 <mort-> I think i shall remain an atheist
38:00 <Spaceshot> good for you
38:07 <mort-> Since wizards believe in magic powers from themselves
38:14 <mort-> Not the gods :p
38:57 <Brunius> What's up with you recently Spaceshot?
39:01 <Brunius> Not enough worshippers?
39:08 <Brunius> Temples fallen on hard times?
39:19 <mort-> He isn't a god?
40:11 <Brunius> Sssh, we know, but I'm not sure he does
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41:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> does thou doubt my abilities?
41:51 <Avatar> dost thou
41:53 <Brunius> Absolutely.
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43:12 <mort-> Nethys maybe
43:33 <mort-> But i don't like worshipping a half insane lunatic
44:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> half insane? you truely do doubt my abilities XD
44:29 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2: drop the tm2 from your name man
44:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> I have no idea how to
44:38 <Avatar> it's doing you a disservice
44:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> I wish I could
44:42 <Avatar> do /nick Spaceshot
44:42 <Ballig> /nick Spaceshot
44:43 <Ballig> bam
44:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> that doesn't make it perma
44:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's an icechat thing
44:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> I can't find it
45:30 <Avatar> can you find server settings
45:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> 9 release candidate 2.0 august 14 2011
46:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> better
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46:54 <Spaceshot> there we go
48:45 <Spaceshot> happy?
49:13 <mort-> Yuelral :d
49:22 <Avatar> much better
49:33 <mort-> If i ever have to go worshipping
49:49 <Spaceshot> are sermans aren't long
49:50 <Avatar> it was a bit like if I always had my nick as Avatar_ptm5
49:55 <Avatar> it just wouldn't be right
50:10 <Spaceshot> for you maybe
50:42 <Brunius> I belive Spaceshot set it as tm2 for his laptop or something
50:48 <Spaceshot> cause mekkis said so
50:53 <Brunius> Because Mekkis complained when he was Spaceshot_Laptop
51:03 <Spaceshot> on the ball again
51:06 <Brunius> Something about the majority of IRCing being done on laptops
51:13 <mort-> True
51:19 <mort-> I irc on lap top
51:25 <mort-> Atm though I'm on cell
51:27 <Brunius> I probably would if I had one
51:33 <mort-> Haha
51:34 <Brunius> I only has a desktop though
51:41 <Spaceshot> but it doesn't really matter if I were spaceshot_laptop or spaceshot_tm2
51:47 <Avatar> yeah I remember the story
51:48 <mort-> I actually irc pretty naturally on cell
51:51 <Spaceshot> atleast _laptop says what I'm on
51:53 <Avatar> if that was the case it wouldn't be outrageous
52:01 <Avatar> but while you only have one nick in here
52:06 <Avatar> it's a disservice to you
52:11 <Brunius> Avatar remembers something!
52:21 <Brunius> Anyone got a camera?
53:02 <Avatar> yeah take a photo
57:16 Tashes is now known as AvatarRemembers
04:21 <Brunius> There's no light, there's no sound, hard to breath when you're underground
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17:52 <Mekkis> http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/smarter_computing/article/atomic_scale_memory.html
24:24 AvatarRemembers is now known as Tashes
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40:49 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, http://www.fantasywelt.de/index.php/cat/c1_Tabletop---Miniaturen.html
40:54 <Mekkis> what do you think?
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41:19 <Mekkis> the euro is weak
44:25 <Brunius> Jesus
44:30 <Brunius> 12 atoms?
46:31 <Mekkis> yeah
49:33 <Avatar> Brunius which first steps scenarios have you played
50:02 <Brunius> 2 and 3
50:33 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should DM 1
50:41 <Mekkis> DM2 I mean
50:47 <Brunius> You should DM 1
50:50 <Brunius> I'm planning to
50:54 <Mekkis> cool
51:02 <Mekkis> tell me how many lives it claims :)
51:08 <Brunius> :)
51:17 <Avatar> I'm thinking I can run first steps 1 tomorrow to get you guys through it
51:51 <Avatar> are you available
51:58 <Mekkis> and if they ____ to ______ the _____ in room __ which _____ and _________ ___'_ __ ____ ____ __ _______ out
51:58 <Avatar> I don't care what time
52:02 <Brunius> I'm always available for you baby :P
52:10 <Ballig> hot
52:12 <Avatar> Tashes Hydrazine, you there
52:15 <Tashes> sup
52:19 <Hydrazine> kinda?
52:21 <Avatar> play tomorrow?
52:30 <Mekkis> Brunius, comprehende?
52:32 <Ballig> probably in 12ish hours, I'd imagine
52:39 <Brunius> Nein
52:42 <Tashes> negt
52:43 <Avatar> whatever time you want
52:44 <Hydrazine> as in tomorrow tomorrow or tomorrow later today?
52:58 <Ballig> as in 12ish hours
53:01 <Brunius> What time zone are you in?
53:01 <Avatar> tomorrow as in wednesday
53:03 <Ballig> (hence why I gave the example time)
53:05 <Ballig> Avatar: he's in florida
53:07 <Hydrazine> i'm in eastern
53:10 <Avatar> oh
53:10 <Ballig> you have to give him relative time
53:14 <Hydrazine> but i haven't slept yet.
53:16 <Brunius> Yeah, ok
53:20 <Avatar> yeah 12 hoursish
53:22 <Tashes> i'll probably be out
53:30 <Avatar> when will you be in
53:33 <Ballig> what will you be doing out
53:33 <Tashes> thursday
53:41 <Avatar> you'll be out all day wednesday?
53:50 <Tashes> out and hten painting,  probably
53:51 <Brunius> Mekkis, PM?
54:07 <Brunius> You can paint in front of the computer
54:16 <Tashes> riiight
55:20 <Hydrazine> So I hear I need some software for this. And I think Ballig said I can roll a premade just to keep it simple.
55:20 <Avatar> might still try get a game going tomorrow if we can
55:29 <Avatar> yeah
55:39 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
55:43 <Avatar> get everything listed there
55:55 <Avatar> Combat Assistant is the software you're talking about
56:13 <Avatar> at a minimum you'll need that 
56:31 <Avatar> the pregens are there too, pick a class you like if you want
56:46 <Avatar> Ballig: should put the full list of pregens there too
56:56 <Brunius> I've gotta sleep yo, night
57:00 <Avatar> gg
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57:08 <Hydrazine> Thanks Avatar.
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38:50 <mort-> Tomorrow i won't be around
38:58 <mort-> Got stuff on
39:33 <mort-> No ca on cell eeek
44:14 <Avatar> don't worry about it
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59:37 <mort-> Lol
59:43 <mort-> Ill probably watch
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