// #d&d — 2012-01-06
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00:17:00 <Avatar> I'm sort of forcing myself to make a summoner so I can learn the class
00:22:36 <Avatar> possibly a bad idea
00:36:38 <Avatar> Thelen: are you about
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00:49:51 <Avatar> $60 over 4 days of arcanacon
00:50:02 <Avatar> I sort of only barely survived 2 days last time
00:50:52 <Avatar> and yet the exp compels me to go to every session !!
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02:35:09 <Avatar> storyteller is a pretty sweet trait if you have a lot of knowledges and need to save on your int points
05:46:53 <Ballig> last time you were working full time
05:46:55 <Ballig> now you're a bum
07:51:19 <Avatar> that's true
07:51:49 <Avatar> it'll be like I'll be working by playing pathfinder
10:04:22 <MekkisScreen> 0you're building a summonner?
10:09:26 <Avatar> yeah, trying to
10:27:08 <MekkisScreen> what sprt
10:38:51 <Avatar> what
10:48:46 <MekkisScreen> sort
10:48:58 <MekkisScreen> a summoner can be anything
10:54:30 <Avatar> not sure yet
10:54:38 <Avatar> just starting with the basic summoner
11:07:23 <MekkisScreen> no such thing as a basic summoner
11:11:03 <Avatar> why not
11:17:48 <MekkisScreen> necause your eidolon can be /anything/
11:23:55 <Avatar> it'll be something that attacks
11:24:29 <Avatar> ??staggered
12:04:55 <MekkisScreen> Nightmare should play a scenario with Bobbob...
12:05:09 <MekkisScreen> (with Bobbob riding Nightmare)
12:06:28 <Avatar> doesn't seem quite right
12:12:09 <Avatar> looks like the handle animal check isn't required for when you're riding them
12:12:17 <Avatar> re ride DC 10 and handle animal DC 10
12:21:48 <MekkisScreen> I generally just handwave it if it's like that
12:21:58 <MekkisScreen> if it's combat trained
12:22:07 <Avatar> yeah
12:22:27 <Avatar> the rules are really not clear and nobody seems to care to clarify to the nth degree, so I'm not going to bother chasing it
12:23:13 <Avatar> the general intention seems to be that handle animal in the handle animal skill is for when you're not riding it, even though it doesn't say that anywhere
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12:50:52 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul
12:50:56 <Avatar> how's your new character coming
12:51:16 <Jaggedsoul> Avatar
12:51:29 <Jaggedsoul> I'm almost done
12:51:46 <Jaggedsoul> I won't be able to play tomorrow though
12:52:02 <Jaggedsoul> My 9 month old nephew just died
12:54:55 <Avatar> sorry to hear
12:55:19 <Jaggedsoul> s'alright
12:55:32 <Jaggedsoul> it wasn't a surprise
12:55:53 <Jaggedsoul> he was born with a severely underdeveloped liver
12:56:36 <Jaggedsoul> I really like to play though, so I'll drop in if I'll be available
13:07:26 <Jaggedsoul> gtg
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13:16:54 <MekkisScreen> wow
13:16:59 <MekkisScreen> that's horrible
13:18:44 <MekkisScreen> I'm thinking #10339-6 should be a gnomish summoner
13:19:25 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: so you have the fame/wealth table up?
13:19:55 <Avatar> what?
13:19:58 <Avatar> yeah I can I guess?
13:20:06 <MekkisScreen> (I'm on my phone at the moment)
13:20:15 <Avatar> why am I looking at the fame/wealth table
13:20:25 <MekkisScreen> how much fame is needed to get an item worth 12000gp?
13:20:44 <Avatar> 31
13:20:54 <Avatar> 27 lets you go to 11750gp
13:20:54 <MekkisScreen> so 16 scenarios
13:21:06 <Avatar> yeah 16 scenarios of full fame gain and no prestige spent
13:21:06 <MekkisScreen> or about level 6
13:21:14 <Avatar> or no gold spent
13:21:19 <MekkisScreen> prestige spent doesn't matter
13:21:23 <MekkisScreen> cool
13:21:30 <Avatar> what's 12000gp
13:21:41 * MekkisScreen has a concept for 10339-6
13:22:16 <MekkisScreen> if you're diminuitive, and riding an eidolon...
13:22:42 <MekkisScreen> you should be able to take cover (ride DC20) and hide without issuse
13:22:45 <MekkisScreen> issue*
13:23:25 <MekkisScreen> (the concept is a diminuitive gnome riding an eidolon)
13:24:14 <MekkisScreen> now... what form should the eidolon take?
13:27:35 <Avatar> how are you going to be diminuitive
13:38:26 <MekkisScreen> my 1337 skills
13:39:55 <Avatar> sounds like an abuse of rules again
14:06:30 <MekkisScreen> you rules abuser
14:14:45 <MekkisScreen> I shouldn't let Cairo use restoration when I'm DMing
14:15:05 <MekkisScreen> other negative boons can't be undone
14:17:26 <Avatar> even though a venture captain ruled it, and even after you said check with a venture captain
14:27:05 <MekkisScreen> I said I'd check with the local venture captain
14:27:34 <MekkisScreen> other negative boons can't be removed
14:27:50 <MekkisScreen> if they could, it'd be in conditions, not boons
14:27:58 <MekkisScreen> like diseases
14:29:47 <MekkisScreen> I should ask the winner of RPPG superstar....
14:29:56 <MekkisScreen> RPG*
14:33:53 <MekkisScreen> I know... if Canine doesn't turn up this weekend, I'll run Before the Dawn 1 again
14:34:03 <MekkisScreen> then I'll run BTD2
14:34:11 <MekkisScreen> at 3-4
14:49:53 <Avatar> how does that solve anything
14:52:02 <MekkisScreen> you haven't played BTD2
14:53:24 <Avatar> running BTD1 again
15:02:49 <MekkisScreen> that way there are more PCs in BTD2
15:03:01 <Avatar> what?
15:03:11 <MekkisScreen> so the inevitable TPK is more damaging :0
15:03:24 <Avatar> are you intent on killing us
15:11:14 <MekkisScreen> not INTENT
15:14:57 <MekkisScreen> I haven't killed off a PC for almost a year
15:15:37 <Avatar> it sounds like you're trying quite a bit harder now
15:16:10 <MekkisScreen> nope
15:16:25 <MekkisScreen> if you hold more conferences, I might
15:17:54 <Avatar> what, by trying to get some things clarified
15:18:07 <Avatar> if you're going to have that attitude, count me out of your games
15:27:33 <MekkisScreen> you obviously didn't get the sarcasm
15:27:58 <Avatar> no, I still don't
15:55:22 <MekkisScreen> but a DM is supposed to make a mission or a situation sound impossible
15:56:39 <Avatar> make it sound fun instead
15:56:44 <MekkisScreen> it makes it more exciting for the players
15:56:59 <MekkisScreen> especially when they achieve it
16:00:53 <MekkisScreen> I actually think that i I'm getting better, in that you think that I'm trying harder to kill your characters, but your characters are surviving
16:05:11 <MekkisScreen> your thoughts, Avatar ?
17:47:31 <Ballig> sup jerks
18:02:28 <MekkisScreen> what do you think?
18:03:49 <Ballig> what am I reading about
18:10:46 <MekkisScreen> but a DM is supposed to make a mission or a situation sound impossible
18:11:00 <MekkisScreen> it makes it more exciting for the players
18:11:08 <MekkisScreen> especially when they achieve it
18:11:11 <Ballig> depends what they get out of playing
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18:12:08 <MekkisScreen> I actually think that i I'm getting better, in that you think that I'm trying harder to kill your characters, but your characters are surviving
18:13:21 <Ballig> some people might feel annoyed if they think that every time they play their character he's walking into a suicide mission
18:13:52 <Ballig> and you have to be careful that players don't start to resent you if they feel you're unfairly targeting them or making things harder for them
18:14:21 <MekkisScreen> there is that, yes
18:14:49 <Ballig> but the risk of death must be everpresent
18:15:08 <Ballig> or else the game can feel like a cakewalk
20:02:27 <Avatar> Mekkis: I think there's a point where trying harder becomes trying too hard
20:21:20 <Avatar> Thelen: you playing tomorrow morning
20:21:21 <Avatar> ?
20:40:14 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: so you think I'm passing that point?
20:43:18 <Avatar> I dunno man
20:43:33 <Avatar> you're certainly trying too hard to make sure Cairo's con point stays off
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21:23:19 <Brunius> Jerks
21:25:15 <MekkisScreen> jerk
21:25:24 <Ballig> I was worried people were going to start accusing me of killing you, Brunius
21:25:31 <Brunius> Ha
21:25:38 <MekkisScreen> There once was a lad name of Durkin
21:25:51 <MekkisScreen> Who was always Jerkin' his gherkin
21:26:13 <MekkisScreen> His father said, "Durkin..
21:26:22 <Avatar> I already thought you had killed him but didn't want to say anything for fear of retribution :(
21:26:28 <Brunius> ha
21:26:39 <MekkisScreen> "Stop Jerkin your gherkin"
21:26:39 <Brunius> Aren't you the one with underworld connections, Avatar?
21:26:55 <Avatar> I'll neither confirm nor deny that
21:27:01 <Brunius> So yes
21:27:07 <Brunius> Or you'd like us to think yes
21:27:08 <MekkisScreen> "Yer gherkin's for ferkin' not jerkin'"
21:27:27 <Ballig> well, he's Italian
21:27:28 <Ballig> so yes
21:29:32 <Brunius> Nah Ballig I just cbf getting in here last night
21:30:31 <Avatar> how long are you in canberra
21:31:11 <Brunius> Till Sunday
21:31:21 <Brunius> I might be able to play a sunday afternoon game if there's one going
21:31:54 <Avatar> what time sunday afternoon
21:32:24 <Brunius> Getting into the airport 12:40
21:32:38 <Avatar> so like 4pm then
21:32:46 <Brunius> Pretty much
21:35:25 <MekkisScreen> Avatar does have connections
21:38:44 <MekkisScreen> have I dmed anything season 2
21:38:52 <MekkisScreen> other than BTD?
21:38:54 <Brunius> Voice in the Void
21:39:14 <Brunius> First PFS session run in here :P
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22:13:30 <MekkisScreen> that's not season 2
22:22:18 <Avatar> I don't have any chronicle sheets that are season 2 except btd
22:22:22 <Avatar> and shades of ice
23:11:34 <Avatar> DC 20 linguistics check can read lips
23:12:58 <Avatar> at least within a 5ft radius
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