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03:20 <rust_collector> yaay! my cheap crap is sent from xing ping dingdong mail centre
03:51 Quit: jackbrown ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
07:21 <Ysjoelfir> yaaaay!
07:33 * Ysjoelfir grabs rust_collector and dances in circles
07:57 * rust_collector spin
08:45 <rust_collector> it will be nice. at least the knobs for pots. i never have knobs that fit properly
09:57 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 16.9 floz to ml
09:57 <EEVBlog> The result is: 499.792 ml
10:01 <Ampera> thank you EEVBlog
10:17 <electrohead> morning
10:24 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
10:31 <rust_collector> I wonder if I need million turn pots or not. It probably does not make sense on a little power supply
10:39 <rust_collector> hey mr head
10:41 * electrohead hugs back
10:44 <electrohead> hey guys
10:57 * rust_collector steps on electroheads foot
11:02 <rust_collector> oops
11:27 <Ysjoelfir> that depends on the precision of your little thing :P
11:29 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. head
11:30 <rust_collector> I blame Ysjoelfir, because I am still dizzy from being rotated
13:37 <rust_collector> hmm, time to go replace stuff on the wifemobile. I wonder if it will change anything, because I never diagnosed it at all, I just ordered stuff I thought maybe would do something
14:36 <Ysjoelfir> heh. :D that sounds like a perfect method
20:56 <Ampera> blaming German is always fun and convenient
20:59 <Ampera> er, Germans
21:07 <K> eew
21:32 * Ampera hugs K
21:43 <K> no touching! 2m distance!
21:49 <Ampera> what's a m
21:54 <rust_collector> yep, and as germans are so german, they agree
21:54 <K> males
22:45 * Ampera pokes K with a long stick made out of rust_collector, Ysjoelfir, and electrohead taped head to foot
23:09 <rust_collector> heh. that is a long and heavy stick
23:10 <K> ok
23:16 <K> meat stick
24:03 <rust_collector> maybe mr head has some meat, the rest of us is more fat and biproducts
24:12 * Ampera takes a bite out of electrohead
24:14 <Ampera> mmm cheese steak
24:27 <electrohead> lol
24:44 <rust_collector> cheeeessseeeeee
25:18 <Ysjoelfir> licquorice!
26:12 <rust_collector> oh, yes. wife was wondering what kind of.. uhm, what what it called again, that you found on amazon?
27:04 <Ysjoelfir> läkerol
27:10 <rust_collector> she forgot to buy flavour water, but she remember now and then
27:16 <rust_collector> right... what kind
27:20 <Ysjoelfir> heh. no problem^^
27:29 <Ysjoelfir> I love the cactus one.
27:34 <rust_collector> cactus is nice
28:07 <Ysjoelfir> I never chewed on a cactus though, so no idea of the taste of that is authentical or not, but I like that stuff
36:00 <rust_collector> ok, time to go look for a 27mm deep socket...
37:17 <Ysjoelfir> that doesn't sound that deep
37:49 <rust_collector> no, it has almost the same sound as a regular one
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48:09 <Ysjoelfir> see? :P
57:47 <Ysjoelfir> so, worktime is over soon. I'll continue work on the lathe when I'm done. I think one of the first things I'll turn on it will be a screw with a handle for the toolpost holder thingy
58:04 <Ysjoelfir> well, right after I made the bushing/Spacer/whatever for the compressor
00:07 <Ysjoelfir> right now that toolpost is just sitting on a M6 rod screwed into the carriage thingy which has a M6 thread cut into it, right above the end of the screw that moves the carriage... which resulted into the idiot pre-owner screwing that bolt way to hard into the hole and thus chewing up the movement screw thing at the back end
02:09 <Ysjoelfir> or just grab a M6 rod, bend that and wrap one million layers of electrical tape around it. we'll see
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25:54 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6a5HTsYCSY rust_collector, I always wonder why you wouldn't want to use linear rails for lathes. At least I have never seen any on commercial ones you can buy (except from super ultry mega cheap 50€ (shipping included) chinesium ones)
29:35 <K> maybe there is less rigidity?
30:13 <coppice> the thing he built doesn't look very rigid at all
32:01 <Ysjoelfir> does it? I thought it was quite ok.
35:02 <K> not convinced those rails take twisting that good
35:22 <rust_collector> they do not exactly last forever, and are not usually adjustable, I guess. a hardened upside down v and adjustable slop is very sturdy and adjustable
35:42 <rust_collector> if you keep grinding dust off it, anyway
36:13 <Ysjoelfir> probably not. but it looks like he'll be mounting it to a thick metal table, so I think twisting shouldn't be that big of a deal?
36:23 <Ysjoelfir> but aren't those rods also hardened, rusty?
36:41 <rust_collector> I dunno? I did not order them for that guy
36:50 <rust_collector> I sort of doubt it
37:39 <rust_collector> it is just hard to beat a thick chunk of cast steel or iron when it comes to stability
37:51 <Ysjoelfir> thats true
38:15 <rust_collector> I mean, his thing will probably work ok-ish for most things
38:46 <Ysjoelfir> I was suprised how sturdy that small lathe even is. and how slop-less you can adjust it. it feels actually realy nice now after complete disassembly, cleaning, adjustment,... well, except the tailstock, which I didn't do yet.
39:02 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, as long as that guy is happy it'll probably be ok :)
40:40 <rust_collector> I have seen him use it, and some of the stuff ends up looking pretty horrific, but it does work...
40:45 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of linear rails... I still have two of that style (and roughly 10 of the micro mini minature version of that...) https://www.dold-mechatronik.de/Linearwagen-FL-25HC-Flanschmodell
40:50 <Ysjoelfir> still wonder what I'll do with that
40:56 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
41:07 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure my stuff won't look better :P
41:26 <Ysjoelfir> but that would most certainly be because I have no clue what I'm doing.
42:13 <rust_collector> keep your machine on the tight side, and your tools sharp. I think you will need to do some research on grinding and polishing cutting tools
42:37 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I will have to learn that.
43:30 <K> heh, dold mechatronic
43:35 <K> i've ordered stuff from them
43:56 <Ysjoelfir> and I adjusted it to be so that you can move stuff without much more force than turning the bare screw, but you don't have any feelable slop when you try to rock the.... moving bits. is that too loose?
44:15 <rust_collector> maybe especially since you have a small machine, you need to cut easy. big machines are...bigger, and will power thru a lot more, even if that is not ideal either
44:16 <Ysjoelfir> yep, have bought many things from them already. prices are good, service is good... no complaints
45:23 <rust_collector> you need a test indicator or something, measure the slop, and try to find a sweet spot, because it is probably more sloppy close to the chuck than at the other end, lol
45:52 <Ysjoelfir> yep. I'll have to go with very light cuts. one reason besides the general size are the tiny belts that thing is using. they slip insanely easy^^
46:03 <Ysjoelfir> I have exactly two indicators. but no holder.
46:21 <K> dros?
46:32 <rust_collector> no
46:35 <Ysjoelfir> and I was actually pretty irritated that it isn't super much more loose towards the middle or the chuck. it feels pretty even most of the way
46:49 <rust_collector> nice
47:06 <Ysjoelfir> but - just feeling. I'll measure that and will probably find out that my feeling is just shit
48:00 <rust_collector> it will probably be ok. you will probably go mental if you want it old style german
48:23 <rust_collector> unless you want to learn scraping stuff...
49:07 <Ysjoelfir> no thanks, I don't have THAT much patience.
50:58 <Ysjoelfir> one thing I already DON't like about that thing is the strange size chuck. its an 85mm plate, which seems extremely rare
52:15 <rust_collector> meh, just drill any normal size chuck to the pattern you need? is it 3 or 4 bolts, holding on to a flange thing? sort of like a wheel on a car?
52:30 <Ysjoelfir> yep
53:04 <Ysjoelfir> wait, I actually have the chuck not mounted atm. let me take a pic
55:21 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gHdguFxf8hYFGuyHwvo3Dd84P85iJg5q/view?usp=sharing
55:28 <Ysjoelfir> outer diameter is 85, the lip is 62
57:07 <rust_collector> uuh. then a plate bolted to that, that you then bolt the chuck to? or do you plop the chuck straight to that, with bolts thru the "face?
57:46 <rust_collector> or is there more space behind it than it looks like?
59:55 <rust_collector> studs on the back of the chuck, and nuts?
00:49 <rust_collector> but more important, is that a morse taper in the bore?
02:52 <rust_collector> look for a collet chuck. I think it will be very useful for what I think you will do with that thing
03:56 <rust_collector> or those that are similar to a collet chuck, but has rubber things, so you can squeeze them more, so you don't need a million collets
04:06 <Ysjoelfir> plate bolted to that is what I had in mind. I can barely clamp 100mm diameter stock with the 3 jaw chuck I have. a 100mm plate bolted to that, with the features needed to mount a regular 100mm chuck would be doable I think. behind it is roughly minus 10 millimeters space.
04:44 <Ysjoelfir> I thought about getting a collet chuck for that (which is why I looked up the diameter in the first place), but there seem to be only 80 and 100mm readily available for cheap-ish :D
04:49 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, thats a morse taper 2 in there
05:12 <rust_collector> nice
05:53 <Ampera> how much chuck could a chuckwood wood if a chuckwood could wood chuck
06:15 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
06:25 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir with a sausage
06:41 <Ysjoelfir> ]o}
06:42 <Ysjoelfir> erm
06:46 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
06:48 <rust_collector> ALL OF THEM!
07:08 * Ampera chucks rust_collector, turns him down to a smaller version of rust_collector 
07:25 <rust_collector> nice!
07:43 <rust_collector> now I have an excuse to not do all the actual work
07:50 <Ysjoelfir> so that would be a dust_collector?
08:39 <K> crust
08:47 <K> from all the pies he's eaten
08:54 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D
08:54 <Ampera> bust_collector
08:57 <rust_collector> is a vacuum cleaner in theory a particle accelerator?
09:03 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
09:03 <Ampera> he's the tits
09:17 <Ampera> rust_collector, yeah but it's a really sucky one
09:18 <rust_collector> moobs... moobs
09:20 <hsn> hahaha https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/533153/can-a-signal-coming-through-a-coaxel-cable-show-a-casino-which-state-i-live-in
09:21 <K> ants tits
10:04 <hsn> his username is bingo also :D
10:14 <Ysjoelfir> lol
10:21 <Ampera> listening to a song called "Your lucky day in hell"
10:27 <Ampera> I must be in some hell because I don't have any of those
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11:08 * Ampera hugs arch 
11:12 * Ampera gives arch a sausage burger
12:49 <arch> :3
13:26 <K> buggerers
14:48 <rust_collector> I think I will stop cooking things some time soon. or get a gas burner, because this electric stuff just does not work lik eI want it to
16:53 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer gas for cooking as well, but I noticed that the right cookware can make a huge difference
17:07 <Ampera> cast iron is awesome
17:20 <Ampera> anything heavy steel is pretty good
17:27 <Ysjoelfir> yes, cast or forged iron, or copper
17:33 <Ampera> copper scares me
17:42 <Ampera> as, best I know, untreated it can be quite poisonous
17:53 <rust_collector> don't eat it?
18:01 <Ysjoelfir> thats why you usually have a.... zink (?) coating on the inside
18:16 <Ampera> yeah that's true, but the issue arises when that coating rubs/scrapes off
18:29 <Ampera> which, if you've ever had a nonstick pan in your life, will happen eventually
18:31 <Ysjoelfir> which is the reason you don't want to overheat copper pots^^
19:18 <Ysjoelfir> I have definitely seen that on non stick pans, yes, but haven't had that ever in my copper pots. but also not in my hich quality non stick pan (yet)
19:29 <Ampera> I'd rather just use a material that isn't capable of reacting to form considerable poisons
19:53 <Ampera> I mean if you're just cooking soup or with water in your pot, that's fine
20:00 <Ysjoelfir> but it can absolutely happen, yes, and a valid reason to not use it if you want to be safe :)
20:04 <Ampera> but if you start scraping, or washing roughly or whatever else, it becomes an issue
20:12 <rust_collector> hard to beat iron. but yeah, copper does spread the heat well
20:33 <Ysjoelfir> thats what I usually use my pots for :D for frying I use pans
21:32 <Ampera> depends on the pot, I have some shallow pots that are more akin to skillets than pots
22:42 <Ysjoelfir> ah yes, I have one of those as well. but that one is regular steel with a VERY thick bottom. I love that one and use it to make one pot dishes like stews and whatnot, which require searing some stuff first.
23:05 <rust_collector> I have kids and wife, so I can not have nice things. except I do have one BIG iron pot, which no one else dares to use
23:25 <Ysjoelfir> because you keep your acids in that?
23:53 <rust_collector> acids? no
24:04 <rust_collector> sarin, and such
24:27 <Ysjoelfir> well, thats close enough to acid.
24:36 <Ampera> I should probably go program something in my lull of not doing anything for work, but I'm wondering what I should make that isn't too massive
25:08 <Ysjoelfir> programm a full IEEE488 compatible GPIB to ethernet converter!
25:40 <Ampera> I suppose I could do that, no big sweat on that one
26:31 <Ampera> actually you could probably make one with a pi
26:39 <Ysjoelfir> sure.
26:54 <Ampera> unfortunately I don't have any IEEE-488 compatible devices
27:00 <Ysjoelfir> I thought about building one, but the programming scares me.
27:02 <Ampera> closest thing I have is a C64 & 128
27:37 <Ysjoelfir> that should work?
27:44 <Ampera> how so
27:59 <Ampera> they have a completely different serial bus instead of parallel which was on the PETs
28:20 <K> http://elektronomikon.org/
28:29 <Ysjoelfir> oh, ok, I thought it was the same
29:01 <Ampera> oh apparently it is IEEE-488 bus
29:03 <Ampera> but it's serial?
29:06 <Ampera> wha
29:12 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds strange.
29:18 <Ysjoelfir> K - uh, interesting :D
29:44 <Ampera> that is an interesting idea though, a C64 drive emulator made with a Pi
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33:00 <rust_collector> aaand IS DINNER!
33:05 <rust_collector> I think
33:20 <rust_collector> whatever it ts, it is done
33:22 <Ampera> sounds good I'll be over
33:41 <rust_collector> great, because no one else seems to want any
35:54 <Ysjoelfir> what did you make?
35:58 <rust_collector> uuh
36:05 <rust_collector> "dinner", lol
36:10 <Ysjoelfir> lol
36:42 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/ej7f2Cl
36:58 <Ampera> that is indeed dinner
37:23 <K> po-tay-toe
37:36 <Ampera> imgur keeps reminding me of this miracle https://imgur.com/gallery/Q953bLD
37:55 <Ysjoelfir> It looks good, I want it
38:04 <Ysjoelfir> oh, and amperas pie as well
38:37 <rust_collector> pie looks good
38:48 <K> this causes cognitive dissonance for me
38:56 <K> for me a pie must be sweet
39:04 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
39:09 <K> apples or something
39:12 <rust_collector> that is your problem. more pie for me
39:14 <Ampera> seems like opposite day then, because here that's usually the standard
39:23 <Ampera> meat pies are rare with the exception of chinese pot pie
40:44 <rust_collector> up here pies are rare... but most of the time, it is the sweet, or more dessert like kind
41:35 <Ysjoelfir> same over here, but most people still know non sweet pie
44:54 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, what does gaden mean
46:56 <Ysjoelfir> I'm not sure that I know that word
47:17 <rust_collector> esgaden?
47:58 <rust_collector> Berchtesgaden
48:11 <rust_collector> tesgaden?
49:06 <Ysjoelfir> heh. ok, I see :D Then my google-fu was right - Gaden is a old word for a single room home, like a small house or even a barn.
49:26 <Ysjoelfir> that would make sense for the town
49:26 <rust_collector> heh, ok
53:31 <Ysjoelfir> I have to admit, that is... creative. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MxVKE_HsA
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54:36 <T3sl4> buh
54:45 <K> y u do dis?!?!1111
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58:29 <rust_collector> I wonder why that guy is always making compressors into engines, and engines to compressors, and. I wonder if he ever made anything that was usable
59:27 <rust_collector> as much as I like fridge compressor based engines...
04:58 <T3sl4> hmm, handy alternator
05:03 <T3sl4> i mean, if it weren't an induction motor
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19:08 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=198688184
19:16 <rust_collector> that is neat
22:02 <rust_collector> and this one needs rgb leds: https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=198747404
22:45 <Watcher> is the tv on batterys?
23:23 <rust_collector> I do not think so?
23:34 <Watcher> it is a 12 24 volt model
23:43 <rust_collector> yes
24:36 <Watcher> most tv that i have found with 12v that old works also on batterys
25:28 <rust_collector> it will probably work on batteries, but i do not know if it has a battery compartment.
25:43 <Watcher> yes it will works on batterys https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/nec_16_cm_auto_color_portabl.html
25:52 <Watcher> line/battery
27:45 <rust_collector> yeah, but is it internal battery, or... plug into car (battery) or...
28:09 <rust_collector> but it does look neat
29:51 <Watcher> yeah and if the apocalics is and you are in your bunker that you now what the other people do
31:10 <rust_collector> yes, you will be able to watch all the propaganda from the new regime
31:22 <K> apocalicks
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52:43 <rust_collector> time to go. have fun
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03:45 <Watcher> hello ThunderSqueak
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26:32 <ThunderSqueak> hi there Watcher, what do you watch?
28:07 <Watcher> a live stream form a random speed runner
28:27 <Watcher> he is play a new game
28:36 <Watcher> jsut the stream for today
41:34 <ThunderSqueak> ah cool, today I get to clean a flute that I had comissioned and made for me ... excited about that :D
42:08 <T3sl4> hi there ThunderSqueak
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51:53 <IceGuest_77_> Buh
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52:01 <Tezzers> I should fix that >_>
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52:27 <Nothing\> holy fucking shit was that ever painful
52:53 <Nothing\> was just vomiting violently earlier
53:13 <Nothing\> where i was screaming and cursing between breaths cuz it hurt so much
53:35 <Nothing\> that's hands down the most painful thing i've felt this year
54:22 <Nothing\> throwing up all sorts of pad thai i ate last night and pomegranate juice. nothing like a combination of spicy and acidic coming out your nose.
55:14 <Nothing\> but if i wasn't able to lean on the counter (threw up in the sink) i'd have just collapsed and threw up all over the floor and myself so... thank god for small favours, i suppose.
56:27 <Nothing\> dunno what on earth brought it on. probably having that damned pad thai sitting in my stomach and festering all night while i slept
57:22 <Nothing\> at least i feel better now that it's out of me.
59:43 <Ampera> my first stop for vomiting is the toilet
59:51 <Ampera> as it doesn't require standing
00:06 <Ampera> though I haven't felt the need to induce vomiting in a while, and haven't had to vomit in a while
08:26 <Ysjoelfir> I usually prefer not to vomit
08:58 <Ampera> sometimes I actually prefer to
09:11 <Ampera> I used to on occasion get severe nausea at night, proper stomach pains, and an induced vomit would fix it
09:26 <Ysjoelfir> sounds not nice
09:32 <Ampera> it would otherwise go away in a couple hours, but the vomiting was usually quicker
09:45 <Ampera> I don't tend to have it as much, and tend to just be generally uncomfortable in bed all the time instead
10:29 <Ampera> Despite me having what I'd think to be a reasonable and normal bed position, posture, whatever, my spine and neck feel like they're trying to curl into a giant question mark, as if to ask god why
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41:49 <electrohead> o/
43:18 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
38:55 <rust_collector> electrohead!!!!
39:37 <rust_collector> ok, sadly for you people, I survived one more day. Better luck tomorrow
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54:43 <DHess_US> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03270-9
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06:46 <T3sl4> a shame to see it go, but understandable
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02:44 <T3sl4> steve30: traffic pileup https://imgur.com/gallery/Mq2XGQi
18:12 <steve30> meow :)
19:05 * T3sl4 scritches steve30 behind the ear
27:43 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
27:43 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:35 2020
38:13 <steve30> *purr*
40:52 <Nothing\> ,s,
40:55 <Nothing\> wow
41:31 <Nothing\> michael j fox had a nearly inoperable tumor on his spine that was slowly paralyzing him, but there was a doctor who was able to remove it successfully
42:16 <Nothing\> had to spend a good bit of time learning to walk again, literally
42:24 <T3sl4> recently?
42:26 <Nothing\> then had a nasty fall and shattered his arm
42:33 <Nothing\> within the last few years
42:40 <Nothing\> the fall was 2018 i believe
42:43 <T3sl4> huh, didn't hear about that
42:48 <Nothing\> yeah, me neither
43:01 <Nothing\> he usually keeps to himself, but it's mentioned in one of his memoirs
43:28 <T3sl4> he certainly deserves to
43:36 <Nothing\> how when he fell, lying on the ground unable to get himself up or call for help he lost all of his trademark optimism
44:56 <Nothing\> here's the article
44:57 <Nothing\> https://www.cbc.ca/radio/q/tuesday-nov-17-2020-michael-j-fox-anique-jordan-1.5804718/i-m-out-of-the-lemonade-business-michael-j-fox-on-the-day-his-optimism-ran-out-1.5804735
45:22 <Nothing\> didn't realize it was on CBC, no wonder you didn't see the article
46:35 <Nothing\> of all the clips with him in them they could have chose from his career, why did they go with the only clip where he's not even doing his own vocals
46:49 <Nothing\> ie singing johnny b goode in back to the future
47:17 <Nothing\> i mean, it was a cool ass-scene but i think they coulda gone with something that showed off his talent a bit better
47:32 <Nothing\> certainly shows off his energy back then
50:27 <Nothing\> i've gotta say though, going through the same sort of loss of optimism recently (though for different reasons) i was surprisingly unaffected by this, aside from feeling bad for the guy.
52:39 <T3sl4> on an unrelated subject, i've got this mostly working now: https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/T3sl4co1l/fontenc/blob/master/font.html
53:24 <T3sl4> (easiest way to demo it, save a copy of the example image, then upload that)
53:28 <Nothing\> ooh that's neat
56:35 <Nothing\> yeah i don't think google images hosts bitmaps
57:07 <Nothing\> either that or it's a terrible search engine as specifying bitmap returns a bunch of jpegs and obvious pngs
57:18 <Nothing\> don't think bitmaps have transparency
57:35 <T3sl4> you're better off making your own in Paint, if that's what you're thinking
00:25 * steve30 needs coffee
03:05 * T3sl4 paints a coffee
07:35 * steve30 nibbles the pixels
08:17 <T3sl4> nibbles, mmm, 16 color palette
21:42 * steve30 purrs at T3sl4 
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22:41 <steve30> nice
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39:34 <rust_collector> mMmoO0orNinG!
04:24 <T3sl4> stupid sexy fernders https://i.redd.it/qghb80y5i9061.jpg
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43:59 * Halcyon mews at the room
44:10 <steve30> hi Halcyon
44:18 <Halcyon> Hello Steve :)
44:46 <steve30> i'm just back from tesco
44:57 <Halcyon> What did you buy?
45:03 <steve30> foodz
45:09 <Halcyon> Mmmmm... ?
46:07 <Halcyon> Care to elaborate?
46:44 <steve30> mostly chocolatey things
46:54 <steve30> but also non chocolatey things
46:57 <Halcyon> Hahah
47:16 <Halcyon> Oooh my new debit card arrived
47:26 <Halcyon> Shiny
47:40 <steve30> cool
47:48 <steve30> I got a new one about a year ago
47:57 <Halcyon> Good thing too, my current one expires at the end of the month
51:23 * rust_collector is trying to make grilled cheese sandwiches in an air fryer
51:33 * steve30 snuggles up to Halcyon 
51:48 <Halcyon> TYAY
51:57 <Halcyon> rust_collector: How is that working for you?
57:19 <rust_collector> the first time, the cheese slices flew off, but it seems ok now
00:20 <rust_collector> it does feel more grilled like, than if fried in a pan
07:01 * steve30 coffees
13:40 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a gorgeous idea
14:02 <steve30> coffee or grilled cheese?
14:33 <Ysjoelfir> fried cheese
14:39 <Ysjoelfir> but speaking of coffee...
14:46 * Ysjoelfir leaves for the kitchen to get some Yuzu tea
15:13 <Ysjoelfir> also mr. rust, I managed to make the tailstock kinda sorta work
26:58 <rust_collector> ok.....
27:03 <rust_collector> so
27:12 <rust_collector> now make it really work?
30:17 <Ysjoelfir> thats on the plan. I deburred the outer edge of the tailstock housing and basically added a slight chamfer to it. that helped a bit. then I got a small file and daburred the slot of the clamping thing, as that was biting into the cylinder thing as well. helped a bit more. then I inspected the cylinder thing closely and noticed some small... "marks" which looked like it was gripped by a pipe wrench? they were a bit elevated, so I f
30:18 <Ysjoelfir> down, carefully. that helped also a bit.
30:58 <Ysjoelfir> but it was still very hard to move, but now it could be done with one hand instead of two and I could also get the thing out there without pushing it from the back.
32:07 <Ysjoelfir> So I took some steel wool, a brass foil, put the cylinder thing into the chuck and went over it until it felt smooth. not it can be moved with one hand without a ton of force, but its not "smooth" yet
33:04 <rust_collector> mmh, yeh, but be careful now
33:27 <Ysjoelfir> I have just no idea where it could still be binding now, as the cylinder thing is smooth on the outside and the housing is new and has a machined hole, which I would expect to be to size
33:54 <rust_collector> nah, don't expect anything
34:36 <rust_collector> stick the cylinder thin in, and put a bright light inside, and see where it comes out?
35:14 <Ysjoelfir> I actually did that. can't see any light at all
36:14 <rust_collector> I wonder... if you just clamp it hard, then you clamp it hard. then see what happens?
37:20 <Ysjoelfir> that would make it even more impossible to move, how would that help me? :D
37:24 <Ysjoelfir> oh, wait
37:53 <Ysjoelfir> you mean, since that cylinder thing is obviously not hardened, maybe clamping it in the past has deformed it slightly?
38:44 <steve30> I'm just watching Dave's tour of norwest business park
39:18 <rust_collector> well, I was thinking that as the rest is new, maybe it will stretch around the cylinder, and... meh, just wondering if I should try to grill more stuff
40:30 <Ysjoelfir> that could also be the case. I'll try that. and you should do that, grilling stuff is always a good idea
40:48 <Ysjoelfir> steve30, what is he doing there?
41:04 <rust_collector> anti ranting, and walking around
41:47 <steve30> talking about the buildings there
42:09 <Ysjoelfir> ew, walking? sounds exhausting
45:19 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I took a look at the tools I have got with the lathe. the most of them are brazed carbide tools which are chiped. the HSS ones are dull as hell.I definitely have to learn how to sharpen those :D the hss ones I mean, I think I should just toss the carbide ones and get some for carbide inserts instead
46:32 <rust_collector> if the brazed on parts are really small... maybe. but no, keep them around
48:08 <rust_collector> and yes, get something with inserts, try to fine dome that have a shape you can turn around in as many directions as you can, so you can keep turning it then sharpening , and turning it...
48:33 <Ysjoelfir> For? Can you resharpen the brazed carbide ones somehow? also, the only semi sharp one I have is one that doesn't look like a turning tool at all xD it looks more like a tiny rusty medieval spear.
49:13 <Ysjoelfir> yep, thats what I thought. This triangle shape looks usefull, with a holder that has an angle built in, so I could use six sides of the insert
50:11 <rust_collector> sure you can
51:00 <K> hello
51:21 <rust_collector> yes, those will be fine for most things. but even "the triangular one".... you proabably have 200 different ones that look almost the same
53:56 <rust_collector> if you want to sharpen carbide... get a diamond wheel, and don't breathe the dust.
54:18 <Ysjoelfir> heh, yes. I found this website https://www.schubert-tacke.de/images/schuberttacke/wendeschneidplatten-iso-schluessel-1.pdf which gives a rough indication that there are A LOT of variants xD
54:23 <Ysjoelfir> diamond wheel sounds very expensive
55:27 <rust_collector> well, you do not need anything fancy. and a wheel will be cheaper than buying a million inserts, jecause they are somewhat dull, and has to be throws away
59:48 <Ysjoelfir> nothing fancy instead sounds not that expensive. I think I should do that
00:54 <Ysjoelfir> was looking through the stuff from a industrial surplus guy I sometimes buy stuff from. have you ever worked with "sandvik" insert holder stuff? he has some for 20€ each, with 3 to 5 spare inserts right now
01:04 <Ysjoelfir> sandvik sounds like it was made in hsn land xD
01:16 <rust_collector> well, see what you can find. I guess a tile cutting disk for an angle grinder would work also, if it does not have slots in it
01:37 <rust_collector> sandvik is swedish, I think
01:56 <rust_collector> it is good stuff. just make sure it fits your machine
02:10 <Ysjoelfir> I should have one of those tile disks... hmm, but no idea where. meh. :D
02:20 <Ysjoelfir> oh, swedish! then it MUST be great, right? ;P
02:50 <rust_collector> well, yeah
03:19 <rust_collector> i think it is hard to find swedish industrial stuff that is crap
03:51 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, some of those are way to big with 20x20. my machine can only take up to 15mm in heigth in this holder thing (which I need to replace as mr. previous owner thought that driving the clamping screws into the thing with an impact driver and stripping every last thread in there would be appropriate...)
04:20 <Ysjoelfir> So I might as well get something that can grab 20x20... but that would look strange on that tiny lathe
04:32 <rust_collector> and check that it will end up at the right height also
05:20 <rust_collector> well, in one way, bigger is better, as long as you have room for it. but that sounds like it is a bit on the bulky side
07:14 <Ysjoelfir> well... having that thing stick out above the center line would be a little fubared I immagine
07:30 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, I could always put the thing upside down, lift it even more and turn in reverse? :P
07:48 <rust_collector> sure. but your carriage would be less stiff
08:15 <Ysjoelfir> that was actually a joke. but good to know that that would be possible somehow
13:12 <rust_collector> yeah, just get something that fits. otoh, you can always make things smaller...
15:57 <K> use harsh language!
22:55 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1geeZeacpsQZvGrupEpwILOwCLKRyeHMd/view?usp=sharing
23:01 <Ysjoelfir> the only semi sharp thing I have here xD
23:20 <Ysjoelfir> left a realy great finish on POM, but I think thats not even a lathe tool
23:40 <rust_collector> well...
23:43 <rust_collector> it is now
28:19 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
28:38 <Ysjoelfir> ant it works rather good for that. well. for facing stuff.
31:16 <Ysjoelfir> Tried to make a hole in a stick of POM yesterday and noticed another flaw: that taper in the tailstock is so short, my old (probably made for a mill) chucks don't fit in there ._. I mean, its both MK2 (is it called like that in english as well? or do you say MT2?), but the ones I have have this flat part at the back to get them out again, which doesn't allow me to insert it deep enough into the tailstock
31:34 <Ysjoelfir> I thought about just cutting that part off, as I doubt that I can release the other side from the old chucks
31:44 <Ysjoelfir> (to get a smaller taper to put into the chucks)
32:33 <Ysjoelfir> also, those are the crappy carbide tools I got. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gQPrjrYVYloC1-9g_hG0v8zko7O0DhPf/view?usp=sharing
33:27 <rust_collector> wow. looks used. I am not sure what they look like they are used for, but...
33:46 <Ysjoelfir> and those are the HSS ones (probably except the left one which looks strange and is considerably heavyer)
33:50 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gWEgETpkRcwevy84KrPsHWUcFsI0fcW0/view?usp=sharing
34:04 <Ysjoelfir> yep, very used. on some the carbide is like.. crumbled to dust xD
34:05 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, cut the end off the mt, but leave enough so you can get it out
35:03 <Ysjoelfir> don't need to cut much at all. its like... 98% in before it hits the screw. I think just cutting off the flat part will be enough
35:16 <rust_collector> okeh
37:54 <Ysjoelfir> I can grind HSS with just a regular disc, right? I would try that on the HSS tools then this evening.
38:00 <Ysjoelfir> stone
38:02 <Ysjoelfir> wheel
38:03 <Ysjoelfir> whatever
38:17 <Ysjoelfir> one of those greyish rotating thigns that make sparks when you hold metal against it xD
38:26 <rust_collector> yes, aluminium oxide wheels are fine
38:43 <Ysjoelfir> good.
39:02 * Ysjoelfir puts "cut off tail of chuck tapers" and "learn grinding lathe tools" on his to do list for today
39:11 * Ysjoelfir deletes "work for work" from it as well
42:20 <rust_collector> I think the main thing is to think about where you need clearance, when you go into your workpiece with it. also leave a tiny radius on the cutting edge, or it will go dull in no time. a little radius also tends to make a nicer finish, in some materials
42:42 <rust_collector> you can think about chipbreakers and stuff later
45:00 <Ysjoelfir> I watched some videos before, eg. from this old tony. it felt... a bit overwhelming, because of all the angles you have to consider xD also watched this one yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCpIxq0kHzo&t=2s and the guy makes it look pretty easy. but the way you wrote makes me feel that it should actually be realy easy.
47:01 <rust_collector> it is not really difficult.
47:10 <rust_collector> for most things anyway.
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52:56 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder how you would grind a parting tool. it sounds easy in my head, basically like a thin strip of metal, with two slight angles on the sides and one from the front and maybe another one on top, making it basically have like a lip.
53:31 <rust_collector> well, pretty much
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56:35 <rust_collector> ok, my mouse is not exactly set up for drawing, lol
57:43 <Ysjoelfir> Heh, drawing with a mouse is... "nice". I got a graphics tablet thing for mrs. K once. doesn't get much use though. I should connect that to the PC and learn using it, maybe.
58:04 <rust_collector> hmmm. naaah
58:37 <rust_collector> this mouse is not really very nice to use at all.
00:42 <steve30> i think i'll do some food
00:50 <rust_collector> FOOD!
02:34 <Ysjoelfir> I finally found "my" mouse, that feels great and works great. I had a Razer Diamondback for a very, VERY long time, basically from when it was introduced in 2004 up to... probably 2012 or 2013 when the rubber started to desintegrate and leave a sticky mess on my hand. I loved that mouse, it was just great. Have been using several ones from then on, each one for maybe half a year to a year. was never satisfied. 2 years ago I got a
02:34 <Ysjoelfir> 3DConnexion CAD Mouse, which I just love. Even better would be that thing, but without the wire. but meh. its fine
03:30 <rust_collector> wires are good
04:13 <rust_collector> this is a corsair somethingsomething, that I removed all the extra buttons, and rgb leds, and 2 of the weights from
09:25 <Ysjoelfir> I usually prefer wired mice as well, because they can't just go empty all of the sudden and need endless recharge - which is what I experienced with several wireless ones "back then". but I use a logitech MX Master 2 at work, which is wireless, and that one can be charged while in use and also doesn't need endless charging time. that is actually pretty nice. I combined it with one of those magnetic usb cables, so when I need to ch
09:25 <Ysjoelfir> just move it towards the cable on the desk, it snaps in and charges. no time lost, no inconvenience
09:46 <Ysjoelfir> and I have the impression that I have kind of a "typing spree" today... no idea why though, sorry for all those long messages :X
10:11 <rust_collector> texttexttexttext
10:36 <rust_collector> it is ok, if it was a problem, we would just ignore you
11:13 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
14:54 <hsn> Hey u guys
15:02 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr sand
15:07 * Ysjoelfir hugs hsn
15:10 <hsn> Happy day to u
15:22 <hsn> Hugs back and pets
15:23 <rust_collector> OH SHUT UP
15:45 <Ysjoelfir> ok :X
35:27 <rust_collector> heh, minimum ceiling height in the uk is 2m?
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02:37 <Ysjoelfir> huh? thats... not very high
12:28 <rust_collector> that is what I thought. i wonder if it is 2.2 here
13:51 <rust_collector> our ceiling is 2.4
14:15 <rust_collector> but... nah, that has to be wrong, lol
14:56 <rust_collector> Perhaps surprisingly, there are no legal requirements for ceiling heights in UK homes, except for stairs. To ensure headroom over staircases, the minimum ceiling height is 2m. However, there are expected standard heights if you want to avoid smashing your head on low ceilings or hope to sell your home in future.
16:53 <rust_collector> Now I want to buy a place in england-land, and build a very low bungalow, and have something like a large skateboard to roll around on. I think a ceiling height of 65cm would be fine
20:05 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CHyauwFFCaf53yepW0JSrBqVSjaiRcGlmkbLDk0/?igshid=1dxxhj758f1o5
21:57 <K> private bahrainian weather
21:59 <K> must be hot af
22:17 <hsn> Isit private
22:45 <K> ye
23:02 <K> well, it asks me to log in
23:31 <rust_collector> This Account is Private
23:31 <rust_collector> Already follow bahrainweather?
23:31 <rust_collector> Log in
23:31 <rust_collector> to see their photos and videos.
50:15 <Ysjoelfir> I still wonder if I should apply for jobs from personnel transfer companies...
53:44 <rust_collector> uh what?
54:24 <rust_collector> like temp agencies?
55:20 <Ysjoelfir> kinda. you have a contract with some company who pay you a regular salary and send you to some other company for (mostly) long term projects. even if you don't have a project to work on you get paid.
55:53 <Ysjoelfir> problem is, those companies have a VERY bad reputation here in germanistan. though this one I was looking at has reasonably good reviews
59:00 <rust_collector> I guess it also depends a lot on the person that "has you"
59:35 <rust_collector> well, I guess it beats nothing
00:14 <Ysjoelfir> true
00:53 <rust_collector> not sure, but maybe?
11:28 <rust_collector> I wonder if I should build a small model train layout, and run it on 600v on one side, and 612v on the other side
26:12 <K> build a full size train
29:21 <rust_collector> meh, why? they already have those
30:02 <rust_collector> I did do a bit of work on trains, some time ago.
42:32 <K> training your train
45:03 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a great idea :D the 12V i mean
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