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21:15 <Ysjoelfir> so now you can realy hear that mrs. landlordladybitch is here. its like slamming doors every 3 seconds... the whole house is shaking. that stupid bitch can't even close a freakin door silently
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36:15 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/ZmnWH04
37:23 <coppice> I hate those salami people who sell property
46:15 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, it will never be the same, but you can make it work well.
00:19 <Ysjoelfir> working well is good enough for me :)
11:18 <rust_collector> if you don't mind signing up, you can watch this one, it is not a bad video: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwoodworkingmasterclasses.com%2Fvideos%2Fsharpening-auger-bit%2F&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa2RsczJrSWZaMm5wZmtlU2xsWlNybVFvcWtZQXxBQ3Jtc0tuOEViRElfclJjMnRKNnZIVkh5TGRzTVNUYXNDQ1Z6dmpQdXZnNjl2MXlNTHNYRjZMa29oTHRVY054YVNxUXBJM1VRTEZUTVNvc3VKRHNTLTdlNFJ6TkpNSnhPY2c3di1kOTNlRmpEMGVjNEZJZGJnaw%3D%3D&event=comments&stzi
11:18 <rust_collector> gwtTRkTk-UPH9MTDth4AaABAg.91Jar_VRAYh91KH3uqOB25
11:50 <rust_collector> uuh. wait
12:23 <rust_collector> https://woodworkingmasterclasses.com/videos/sharpening-auger-bit/
12:51 <Ysjoelfir> nice, will do that :D
12:57 <Ysjoelfir> thanks :)
13:07 * electrohead awakens
13:09 <Ysjoelfir> oh, and mrs Kelly wanted to ask for a favor.
13:18 <rust_collector> sure, just jump in that hole full of rabbits
13:28 <rust_collector> mmkay?
14:07 <electrohead> mmkay.
14:10 <electrohead> :p
14:32 <rust_collector> she wants pictures of 47 year old drummers with not too much clothes on?
14:48 <Ysjoelfir> Nah, she has me, thats more than enough :P Would you buy some grocery things for her when you are shopping and send that? She'll pay for it of course or will resend anything you would like to have from germanistan.
15:25 <rust_collector> I am sure we can figure something out there...
15:47 <rust_collector> grocery things sounds like milk and yeast and flour
16:54 <Ysjoelfir> well, close. We tried these https://www.zeroh.no and took one of each variety I could find in the Rema1000 back home. now its empty and she misses some of the flavours.
18:28 <rust_collector> will trade zeroh including shipping for schaublin 13 shipped, not a problem. well, what flavours?
19:07 <Ysjoelfir> lol :P
19:25 <rust_collector> 3 of that one?
19:28 <Ysjoelfir> we'll discuss flavours and I tell you when she has decided :)
19:32 <rust_collector> ok
19:41 <rust_collector> not lol flavour
20:08 <Ysjoelfir> no, not lol flavour^^
20:35 <rust_collector> that would make as much sense as the rest of that name
20:41 <Ysjoelfir> true^^
20:58 <Ysjoelfir> but I have to go back and finish planting.. plants. I think we have decided when we're done with that
21:55 <rust_collector> ok. make a list, and we can do something about it
26:10 <hsn> I swear this funny https://www.instagram.com/reel/CHSz8e9A5zq/?igshid=6d5b10kf762r
26:23 <hsn> For me
26:49 <hsn> Wo hat hut
27:09 <hsn> Wo hat die hut
29:03 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CHOb0kojreh/?igshid=plg1uyvqygpq
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06:14 <Ysjoelfir> rofl @ pidgeon :D
06:58 <Ysjoelfir> and omfg how cool @ banana
15:28 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, we would like to have Sitron & Lime (3), Strawberry & Red Orange (2), Green Apple & Passionfruit (2), Orange & Goldenberry (1) and Fruit Fusion (1)
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44:57 <arch> donarudo-san has lost
45:07 * arch sells remainder of MAGA merch for pennies
45:09 <Ysjoelfir> is that so?
45:41 * arch dumps excess MAGA merch on T3sl4's lawn
46:04 * electrohead burns everything
46:04 <Ysjoelfir> ah, I see.
49:38 <rust_collector> news just said that media says so
51:00 <coppice> yeah, right, you can always trust the media
51:38 <rust_collector> that was what I thought
53:11 <coppice> I wouldn't even trust the mainstream media reporting who was actually inaugurated
53:41 <rust_collector> I still think ronald won
54:04 <coppice> oh, yeah, he definitely won at McDonalds
54:18 <rust_collector> even if he is wearing the clown costume. he just seems to be anti allthethings enough
56:05 <steve30> Today's anti-lockdown protest had a good turnout. Only one person got arrested.
57:06 <rust_collector> so, I was outside, making a jack point on the onion van, when it started raining. so I went inside and sharpened my hand plane sort of sharp-ish. it was nice to see smooth wood again
57:06 <electrohead> let's all vote against burger king, now
57:08 <electrohead> :p
57:21 <rust_collector> I would agree about that
57:43 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
58:46 <rust_collector> I am not sure how it is in other places, but up here, and in my opinion, you get better burgers at almost any gas station, than at the burger chains
04:56 <DHess_US> What happens on December 14th is all that matters. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11641
05:44 <rust_collector> meh. as long as burgers improve....
06:04 <DHess_US> The best burgers close to me now are Wendy's. Hardy's has gotten much worse.
06:23 <DHess_US> Except Wendy's has no lettuce.
07:29 <rust_collector> so, you do not have any non-big-chain burger places there? Ok, maybe hardys is, but it just sound so big
08:18 <Ysjoelfir> we have burgerme. no idea if thats a chain of some sort, but its freakin' great
08:57 <DHess_US> rust_collector, I can't think of any. There are chain places I haven't visited.
09:16 <DHess_US> We have 5 Guys but never been there.
09:40 <DHess_US> Steak and Shake might be better but all of the local ones have been closed since COVID.
10:39 <arch> steve30, are you riot police?
10:58 <rust_collector> We tend to have some "abduls pizza" sort of places, that tend to be ok, when you figure out which ones you can go to without getting sick
12:45 <DHess_US> Papa Johns gave me food poisoning twice in a couple months a few years ago so I stopped eating there.
12:54 <rust_collector> as long as it is riot POLICE, it is nothing to worry about. when they send the riot army... well, maybe go home
14:07 <rust_collector> I remember mom getting really sick after eating pizza in legoland. Now that I think about it, she has not been in denmark since
16:10 <rust_collector> and denmark is probably happy about that
23:12 <Ysjoelfir> xD
23:18 <Ysjoelfir> is your mum such a nice person?
24:03 <rust_collector> not really, no
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25:57 <steve30> arch, no
26:05 <steve30> oh, he disappeared
32:35 <hsn> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325099845045071873?s=09
32:47 <hsn> Lol
32:49 <hsn> Wtf
36:39 <hsn> There r lots of same text wierd chars. . r these all bots? https://twitter.com/rrymmas/status/1325128955955961857?s=19
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37:29 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D
41:17 <DHess_US> With pizza the problem is usually frozen ingredients with e. coli contamination. With cold cuts, the problem is usually salmonella.
42:12 <MrMobodies> Hello
42:17 <DHess_US> The worst food poisoning I ever had was from Subway with a turkey or ham sandwich where I got the turkey or ham from the bottom of the bin. I was feeling sick within 30 minutes.
42:37 <MrMobodies> Subways, I think I had food poisioning there before many years ago
42:38 <DHess_US> Was sick for a week and lost more than a pound per day of weight.
42:47 <MrMobodies> after eating the meatballs
43:20 <DHess_US> The solution to that is to never buy a sandwich which will have meat from the bottom of the bin.
43:35 <steve30> I don't think i've ever had food poisoning#
43:51 <DHess_US> steve30, every had stomach flu without a fever?
44:03 <DHess_US> I should say "stomach flu"
44:07 <MrMobodies> I went to my local Chinese for the chips, and sausage some days ago
44:09 <DHess_US> That was food poisoning.
44:30 <MrMobodies> I say this everytime "I don't think I;ll be going back there for that"
44:40 <MrMobodies> I think it is the oil they use.
46:01 <MrMobodies> I no longer buy sandwiches
46:09 <MrMobodies> not since they started putting in Palm Oil
46:16 <MrMobodies> and other stuff
47:14 <MrMobodies> but I like that "meat at the bottom of the bin" like the mechanically separated meat.
47:52 <Ysjoelfir> This is the first time I realy draw a block diagram and use the schematic sheet function of altium. damn, why didn't I do that earlyer? That helps so much to "write" down your ideas how you want to start a project :D
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48:48 <hsn> Lol twitter is removing trump tweets
50:29 <hsn> I mean hidden
50:46 <Ysjoelfir> jep :) they already announced it
51:20 <rust_collector> who cares? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuOM6ZUJTo
59:07 <Ysjoelfir> about carrot man? no one :D
59:27 <Ysjoelfir> about a grill in a car? I would :D
59:43 <Ysjoelfir> though I know that video and I find it reflects our society perfectly
00:38 <rust_collector> yeszch
04:46 <MrMobodies> Joke: He got Out Bidded by Bidden.
04:57 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
05:35 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA
07:47 <hsn> Its time to date milkshake
08:33 <rust_collector> that just sounds so... not right
10:07 <hsn> Its hell right
12:13 <hsn> If u here i give u this date shake u would dance till morning
13:25 <rust_collector> sorry, but I only dance to swedish music
14:28 <hsn> This well make u dance and sing swedish
14:55 <Ysjoelfir> date shake. sounds nice
15:17 <rust_collector> I can see that maybe working ok
15:20 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iU0JFZfChlKDvyVV62fOMU86g-gwb_gP/view?usp=sharing I realy like how this block diagram turned out. I should do that more often for more... elaborate projects
15:20 <hsn> It shakes ur dates Ysjoelfir
16:52 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: how these are drawn
17:25 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, stop posting fake tech news. now shrink that to the size of a nokia 3111
17:37 * Ampera yawns
18:01 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir, hsn, and rust_collector 
18:16 <hsn> Like .. the block diagrams .. how they drawn .. manually lines ?
18:20 * rust_collector squishes allthepeople
18:45 <hsn> Oi ampera
18:49 <Ysjoelfir> altium, all manual lines, yes. its not that complicated :)
18:51 <Ysjoelfir> hi Ampera
18:53 <Ampera> Oi
18:58 * Ysjoelfir squishes rusty back
18:58 <hsn> U biden guy ?
18:58 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir
19:04 <Ampera> am I wha?
19:08 <Ampera> no I voted Trump
19:16 <hsn> Ok then congraty
19:21 <hsn> Congratz
19:24 <Ampera> wha
19:26 <Ampera> trump lost
19:34 <hsn> He says he won
19:40 <Ampera> he says a lot of things
19:45 <hsn> By a lot
19:59 <Ampera> I voted split party, and I'm getting at least some of what I wanted
20:13 <Ampera> senate is likely to remain red, house and executive are to be blue
20:54 <rust_collector> i see a white house, and...so on
20:58 <rust_collector> lalala
22:09 <Ampera> It'll be amusing to see what Trump comes up with as to why he didn't cheat as well as the other guy so they're bad
22:32 <hsn> https://imgur.com/a/LGIYHjw
23:52 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, are there easyer methods of doing the block diagram? or why where you asking?
23:55 <Ampera> hsn, quicklime, my favorite
23:59 <hsn> Ripe dates .. with walnut .. milk
24:52 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: no idk .. mine is just single color diagram with a name
25:00 <hsn> Never draw something on them
25:46 <hsn> So i thought these are made by some sort of block diagram library u have ?
25:47 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't do that before as well, but as I said, this project is pretty complex, so I thought I might as well do that to just... rather quickly catch what I think how I want this thing to work
26:14 <Ysjoelfir> nope. but that sounds like a good idea, I should create one! just symbols, no designators, no footprints, no nothing
27:17 <hsn> Yes .. i think its maybe ppl are doing it
27:30 <hsn> Ampera: whats quicklime
27:40 <Ampera> hsn, lime that's faster than slowlime
28:03 <hsn> Nice .. does it make u high quick
28:30 <Ampera> no
29:11 <hsn> Darn
29:25 <Ampera> watch your language
29:34 <Ampera> we don't swear like fucking sailors in this bitch of a house
29:50 <hsn> Im watching
29:58 <rust_collector> poop!
30:06 <hsn> Browny
30:17 <Ampera> rust_collector, what is upside down poop
30:22 <rust_collector> oh, are you racist too now?
30:45 <hsn> Who me or ampera
30:59 * Ysjoelfir has a Bro Beer
31:00 <Ampera> I can't be racist, I never race anyone.
31:02 <rust_collector> uuuuhhhhh uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh like uuuuuh you know its like
31:13 <Ampera> I don't know
31:21 <Ampera> you know, I don't, but know you do I know?
31:29 <hsn> Ysjoelfir wein oder bier bitte
31:31 <Ampera> I know, don't, you know you know, don't you know.
31:48 <hsn> Kaffe mit milch bitte
32:17 <Ampera> hsn, that's some terrible french
32:18 <hsn> Duolingo .. is teaching me wein und bier . Like first few words of the language
32:39 <Ampera> Duolingo must be shit at teaching french then
32:43 <Ampera> those aren't even french words
32:52 <hsn> Hmm
33:05 <hsn> Why u think its french then
33:16 <Ampera> Because I said it was, but it obviously isn't.
33:16 <rust_collector> duolingo does suck at teaching french
33:23 <Ampera> Therefore, your french lessons are shit
33:26 <Ampera> because it's not even french
33:33 <hsn> Uou
33:39 <hsn> Oui
34:09 <Ampera> hsn, that's Spanish not French
34:11 <Ampera> nice try
34:34 <hsn> How many suck rate u would like the sex robot im making to have
34:39 <Ampera> I know because I know english, which is technically all the languages, so I technically know all languages
34:48 <Ampera> hsn, zero, I want to do the sucking
34:50 <rust_collector> more than 20 psi, hsn
34:53 <Ampera> don't put me out of a job I don't even have yet
35:03 <hsn> Lol
35:30 <hsn> rust_collector: do u like it to do 1Hz ?
35:37 <rust_collector> no
35:42 <hsn> Does it have to increase by the end ?
35:46 <rust_collector> no
35:49 <hsn> The frequency
36:03 <rust_collector> it should start by stopping, and leaving it alone after that
36:10 <Ampera> hsn, oh please, if you're gonna mechanize it, at least make a fucky wucky one megasucky per second machine
36:31 <hsn> Wucky
37:07 <hsn> No .. i suck at making suck robots
37:13 <rust_collector> easy, just use a piston compressor backwards, and adjust speed as you feel like
37:14 <Ampera> that's the spirit
37:42 <rust_collector> I thought it was that swedish girl who was the best at making shit robots?
37:58 <hsn> Rusty it has to have a rotating tounge and moisturizer ..
38:07 <rust_collector> oh.
38:18 <Ampera> hsn, just make a cyborg
38:20 <Ampera> problem solved
38:24 <rust_collector> well, that is why you get paid every few months
38:31 <hsn> Lol
38:40 <hsn> When last time i was paid
39:08 <rust_collector> I think it was on a thursday
39:19 <hsn> Oct 4
39:45 <hsn> It was for september or augest .. i lost counting
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41:17 * Ampera hugs Nothing 
41:21 * Ampera slashes Nothing 
41:28 * hsn hugs ampera
41:30 <rust_collector> I bet nothing probably does not feel like helping you with that project much
42:01 <rust_collector> unless you are reusing the test rig you use now
42:08 * Ampera suplexes hsn 
42:18 <hsn> Google able ?
42:24 <rust_collector> sure
42:35 <rust_collector> google knows
43:05 <hsn> Ampera can u lift 150kg?
43:20 <hsn> Eevblog convert 150kg to lb
43:21 <EEVBlog> The result is: 330.693 lb
43:21 <rust_collector> anton from the suplex mountains in switzerland
43:41 <Ampera> hsn, I can barely lift my own 75kg
43:50 <Ampera> ya fucking chungus
43:53 <hsn> Then u cant suplex me
44:08 <Ampera> with faith in all that is orange and noble, anything is possible
44:17 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/JccMTfdhDhtvwcYK8
44:38 <Ampera> hsn, why are you like this
44:47 <rust_collector> he likes eating
44:55 <hsn> Like Chungus ?
44:55 <Ampera> no I mean just in general
45:30 <hsn> Idk .. i got good hits in head
46:11 <rust_collector> i wonder if Ampera can make hsn tip over, if he is sleeping standing up
46:46 <rust_collector> mmh, without being shot out of a cannon
46:56 <hsn> Ampera can do all .. with faith
48:25 <Ampera> I am hungry
48:27 <Ampera> I am going to order pizza
48:28 <Ampera> and wings
48:30 <Ampera> and bread things
48:39 <Ampera> and none of you can possibly stop me!
49:09 <rust_collector> some times I wonder if you are going to be president some day
49:42 <Ampera> I wonder how many dual citizens have been president
50:10 <hsn> I can stop u
51:14 <Ampera> hsn, oh yeah?
51:37 <hsn> Yeah
51:38 <Ampera> I already placed the order!
51:40 <Ampera> too late!
52:01 <hsn> Not too late
52:21 <hsn> If i gave u 100$ would u stop?
52:22 <rust_collector> HAAAHAAAA!!!! hsn is too late, loooooserrrrrrrrr loooooseeerrrrrr
52:28 <Ampera> HE LOOSR
52:33 <Ampera> hsn, nope I want my dang pizza
52:34 <rust_collector> he can not stop something he already did?
52:39 <hsn> 300$
52:52 <Ampera> nope
52:57 <Ampera> I don't care if it's thousands
53:00 <hsn> Ur loser
53:00 <Ampera> I want my dang pizza
53:06 <Ampera> yeah but you're hsn
53:16 <rust_collector> ampera was not trained on using the time travel lathe, so no
53:16 <Ampera> can't think of anything worse than that
53:20 <hsn> How about stop the wings
53:26 <Ampera> nope
53:50 <hsn> 550$ and im not gonna raise more
53:50 <rust_collector> flapflapflapflapflapflap
54:03 <Ampera> I said no, hsn, stop before I find you and smack you with a tuna
54:08 <hsn> Its a good deal what u think rusty
54:25 <rust_collector> sure, except that it is impossible
54:33 <hsn> Why
54:50 <hsn> I worth 57 camels
54:54 <rust_collector> because he already ordered, so he can not have not ordered it
55:08 <hsn> No... Stop means not eat
55:55 <rust_collector> I do find it odd that he weighs half of you, and always order too much food
56:14 <hsn> I came fat .. did he came fat?
56:31 <Ampera> rust_collector, this is all I eat all day
56:53 <hsn> Which is not small portion ampera
56:55 <hsn> Lol
57:20 <Ampera> I bought a 14" pizza, bacon & mushroom, 8 honey bbq wings, and 16 parmesan bread bites
57:29 <rust_collector> 3 large pizzas, with 4" of chinken wings and 3 cheeseburgers with a ultra-megafry?
57:37 <Ampera> and a donation to a children's cancer research hospital, but it'd be quite hard to eat that
58:03 <rust_collector> go to the hospital and ask if they have some biscuits or something
58:44 <hsn> 14" is diameter or Radius
58:54 <rust_collector> thickness
59:02 <Ampera> what I find funny is the "Dominos Tracker" has a present and advertised US patent number
59:03 <hsn> :)
59:08 <Ampera> #10,262,281
59:30 <Ampera> https://patents.google.com/patent/US10262281B1/en
00:30 <hsn> Eevblog img 14" pizza
04:18 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/p28rrUWjxtk1Svqz6
04:33 <hsn> Twitter ^_^
05:06 <Ysjoelfir> LOL
05:24 <hsn> Arabs are having fun noe
05:26 <hsn> Now
05:42 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Connection closed
06:07 <rust_collector> are they outside wrecking nissan patrols and decapitating a bit here and there?
06:58 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: guess whats written
07:00 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/89r31Xvx6gV9BXyr9
08:10 <Ysjoelfir> No idea, but i like the pic already
08:19 <hsn> Halo trumb .. let me ask .. whats the WiFi password in white house ?
08:27 <Ysjoelfir> löl
08:39 <hsn> In sort of arabic slang written
08:59 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
09:06 <hsn> Ppl are sending all sort of these stuff ^ here
09:38 <rust_collector> Men snart blir det varmt.Det blir åttahundra grader.do kan lita på mej, do kan lita på mej.Åttahundra grader.do kan lita på mej, do kan lita på mej.
10:35 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if a T3sl4 is online. or maybe you know hsn? Is there a query for Netnames? Like, I want to make a component which is basically just a hole to solder a cable to and I want to have the net name it connects to be automatically displayed as the comment text. like =NetName or whatever?
10:40 <hsn> But soon it will be hot. It will be eight hundred degrees. You can trust me, you can trust me. Eight hundred degrees. You can trust me, you can trust me.
10:56 <Ysjoelfir> rusty is listening to music?
11:32 <hsn> Hmm .. what do u do?
11:51 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
11:59 <hsn> Wait
12:33 <hsn> U want the pad to has net name .. ?
12:48 <Ysjoelfir> no. I want the comment of a component to be set to the netname
12:58 <hsn> Or u want the net to get named
13:11 <rust_collector> yes, the rusty is listening to "music"
13:26 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/AhlypU.jpg
13:41 <Ysjoelfir> don't you think ebba grön is music?
13:58 <rust_collector> it is nice elevator muzak
15:22 <Ampera> food b here
17:05 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: end of this page
17:07 <hsn> https://www.altium.com/documentation/altium-designer/sch-obj-parameterparameter-ad
17:10 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds very nice actually. I like it. though the beginning is... kind of disturbing
17:44 <rust_collector> the link to altium?
17:45 <hsn> Sounds like whats available is few stuff
17:51 <Ysjoelfir> hah! I knew I saw those special strings somewhere, but didn't find it when I searched. thanks hsn
18:07 <Ysjoelfir> no. ebba grön ^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYRqE9YwjRs
18:14 <hsn> Do u know if it exist ?
18:29 <Ysjoelfir> doesn't look like it does :(
18:34 <Ysjoelfir> to bad. would be pretty neat
19:04 <Ysjoelfir> but meh. then I have to name it myself, which is also ok
20:10 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, you can try the staten och kapitalet one too.
21:05 <Ysjoelfir> ok^^
21:24 <hsn> doesnt look like its possible Ysjoelfir .. but im not sure ..
21:35 <Ysjoelfir> I don't think so either
21:39 <Ysjoelfir> well. then manually.
21:52 <rust_collector> which is a version of "blå tåget /ena handen something blahblah"
22:07 <rust_collector> which is quite different
27:25 <Ysjoelfir> i noticed :P
30:07 <rust_collector> well, that is a good sign
31:18 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHw1N8i7YTk
02:01 <rust_collector> ok, and just because I like that there are people playing tennis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YrFg90vvw0
03:00 <hsn> I surrender i dont find any trick to it Ysjoelfir
03:26 <hsn> Was trying to set somthing like =pin 1.netname
03:49 <hsn> As netname is not parameter of component but of pin i guess
04:05 <Lord_of_nothing> hey people
04:15 <Lord_of_nothing> how does everyone here feel?
04:32 <Ysjoelfir> In regards to tennis I always think about "Pong" from "Eisenfunk"
04:37 <rust_collector> and average of all of us?
04:48 <rust_collector> yes, that is tennis-y
04:52 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, thats ok. I just made it manually. ^^
05:09 <Ysjoelfir> Lord, I feel great, rusty feels üppr, hsn feels sandy
05:28 <Lord_of_nothing> he is on the sandy bitch?
05:36 <hsn> Not sandy .. julia
05:36 <rust_collector> sandy likes it
05:39 <Ampera> I FEEL FULL
05:44 <Lord_of_nothing> me to
05:47 <Lord_of_nothing> i eat to much
05:52 <hsn> Ampera feels 14"
05:59 <Lord_of_nothing> ?!
06:04 <Ampera> god fucking dammit hsn
06:10 <rust_collector> and has an unusual disc shape
06:21 <Ampera> yeah that's not 14" long that's 14" wide
06:24 <Ampera> they call me ralph
06:26 <Ampera> cheese wheel ralph
06:34 <rust_collector> rrrrrrrraalph
06:45 <hsn> Rust i think i can annoying Ampera more than u can
06:57 <Ampera> hsn
06:58 <Ampera> hsn
06:59 <Ampera> hsn
07:00 <Ampera> hsn
07:01 <Ampera> hsn
07:02 <hsn> Yes
07:03 <Ampera> hsn
07:05 <Ampera> hsn
07:07 <Ampera> hsn
07:11 <Ampera> hsn
07:13 <Ampera> hi
07:14 <hsn> See ur language
07:25 <Lord_of_nothing> i hope some bot will ban someone here for flood
07:41 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ampera
07:44 Kick: Ampera was kicked by Ampera (Ampera)
07:44 <hsn> Eevblog votekick ampera
07:50 Join: Ampera ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
07:54 <Ampera> dealt with it
08:00 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ampera
08:01 <Ysjoelfir> lol
08:07 <Lord_of_nothing> why are ladys in flipflops are so cute?
08:10 Mode: (by ChanOP) -o Ampera
08:26 <hsn> A votekick feature Ampera
08:42 <Ampera> votekicks can easily be abused
08:45 <Ampera> that'll be a no
09:07 <hsn> U dnt like abuse?
09:22 <Ampera> all I have to do is invite cleetus1 to cleetus50 to join in and then I can kick whoever the hell I want
09:45 <Lord_of_nothing> can someone tell me how something UNDER a house could be?!
10:04 <hsn> Unless .. the vote counts how many msgs each user send
10:07 <Ampera> you'd first have to explain what on earth you just said
10:19 <Ampera> hsn
10:20 <Lord_of_nothing> well i am in the basement and under me are maybe 1m conreate
10:31 <hsn> Yes
10:36 <Lord_of_nothing> so how could a cat under that?!
10:39 <Lord_of_nothing> i dont get that
10:43 <Ampera> a wha?
10:50 <Ampera> please english better
11:10 <Ampera> Understand I no you sentence say make
11:18 <hsn> I did
11:25 <Ampera> hsn
11:29 <hsn> Yes
11:52 <hsn> Lord_of_nothing: the cat went before the concrete .. easy
12:17 <hsn> Ampera
12:23 <Ampera> hsn
12:31 <hsn> Ampera
12:37 <Ampera> hsn
12:46 Nick: hsn is now known as nothsn
12:54 <Ampera> nothsn
13:30 <nothsn> Its nit me
13:32 <Ampera> nothsn
13:34 <nothsn> Not
13:35 <Ampera> nothsn
13:51 <nothsn> It really dsnt work i can screen shot u
14:01 <Ampera> nothsn
15:49 <nothsn> Ampera: https://photos.app.goo.gl/af6QHP4HwicWezw96
15:54 <Ampera> nothsn
16:10 <nothsn> It has to be colored
16:13 <Ampera> nothsn
16:27 <nothsn> XD
16:30 <Ampera> nothsn
16:34 <Ampera> your NFC is on
17:22 <nothsn> Well u never know maybe someone want to tell me somthing
17:35 <nothsn> Over close range communication
17:58 <nothsn> Now its off
18:28 Nick: nothsn is now known as aSleepingHsn
18:33 <aSleepingHsn> Gn all
18:33 <Ampera> good idea
18:34 <Ampera> going to bed
18:37 <Ampera> goodnight
18:46 <rust_collector> unhsn, why would I try to annoy Ampera ?
19:09 <aSleepingHsn> He is fun when annoyed
19:39 <aSleepingHsn> A cute
21:13 <rust_collector> disc shaped people are always cute
30:14 <rust_collector> ring ring!
31:55 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opvh1KwkDmE
32:39 <Lord_of_nothing> why does everyone called then "Karen"?
33:57 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvgCndqh6oc
37:01 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.bitchute.com/video/UmixtFdPgECE/
40:31 <Nothing> hrm i just thought of a conundrum with THZ oscillators
42:01 <Nothing> with the limiting factors of the speed of light, wouldn't that impose limitations on how large the circuits/equipment in the stuff are?
43:00 <Nothing> like, between clock cycles, a beam of light could only travel 0.3mm
44:00 <Nothing> how do you overcome something like that if you want say, a multiTHZ oscillator, or something even faster
44:10 <Nothing> assuming future tech etc
44:39 <Nothing> i'd have to ask neko next time he's around. he'd know if anybody.
44:44 <rust_collector> how fast things are they using for anythign useful now?
45:07 <Nothing> well i believe 5G operates at a max of 300ghz
45:51 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c
46:11 <Nothing> hrm maybe now
46:13 <Nothing> maybe not
46:18 <Nothing> where did i get 300ghz from
46:24 <Lord_of_nothing> what i know it going up to 60ghz
46:31 <Nothing> yeah
46:40 <Nothing> that's what i'm seeing here, double checking my claim
46:52 <Lord_of_nothing> is there some kind of hight power radar permit for everyone use in europe?
47:02 <Lord_of_nothing> i would like count all cars who pass by
47:14 <Lord_of_nothing> for each lane seperate
47:24 <Nothing> but i know mm wave technology does exist in a way in commercial devices, i just can't remember what
47:47 <Nothing> mm waves being the waves between infrared and radio frequency
48:06 <Nothing> which correspond roughly to thz frequencies
48:24 <Lord_of_nothing> do you mean the nudoskope one the airports?
48:31 <Nothing> nah
48:36 <Nothing> those use actual x-rays
48:45 <Lord_of_nothing> nope the dont
48:54 <Nothing> but they're "soft" x-rays so they only have enough energy to penetrate so far
49:08 <Nothing> they used x-ray scanners sort of like that at the prison i was in
49:18 <Nothing> except it looked inside your rectum for contraband
49:24 <Lord_of_nothing> the "just" use mm wave stuff for example in AMS
49:31 <Nothing> half the time it'd give a false positive if you were backed up
49:33 <Lord_of_nothing> thankfully there is a way to opt out
49:46 <Lord_of_nothing> thats why i prefare the manual "search"
49:54 <Lord_of_nothing> the not even use a metal dedector
49:58 <Nothing> huh i didn't know that
49:59 <Lord_of_nothing> just by hand
50:03 <Nothing> i always thought it was soft x-rays
50:08 <Lord_of_nothing> maybe in the us
50:20 <Nothing> yeah i'm sure there are different systems in place
50:24 <Nothing> i'm in canada personally
50:29 <Nothing> that's okay
50:34 <Lord_of_nothing> maybe in canda to i dont know
50:51 <Lord_of_nothing> in austria a scinetist or how to spell fool them
51:17 <Nothing> i read an article yesterday about a qatari airline that forced every woman on a flight to undergo gynecological examinations because a baby was found in one of the bathrooms wrapped in a plastic bag and they were trying to determine who the mother was
51:19 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrKvweNugnQ
51:44 <Lord_of_nothing> WE TE EF!
51:45 <Nothing> there were a bunch of australian nationals on the flight
51:59 <Nothing> qatar keeps apologizing profusely to the government of australia
52:01 <Lord_of_nothing> thankfully i am not every travel to north america anymore
52:19 <Nothing> yeah i wouldn't want to travel in this day and age
52:29 <Nothing> when i traveled, they still let kids come into the cockpit
52:35 <Lord_of_nothing> i travel only by train anymore
52:43 <Lord_of_nothing> yes that was the good time
52:49 <Nothing> shit, the crew even gave me a little lego 737
52:53 <Lord_of_nothing> and i could carry my 2l drinking bottle
53:14 <Nothing> this was back when air travel was actually fun
53:41 <Lord_of_nothing> well you can have fun
53:48 <Lord_of_nothing> but it end maybe at the bomd gate
53:59 <Lord_of_nothing> bomb
54:09 <rust_collector> it is annoying that you have to spend so much time in airports
54:11 <Nothing> even when we were delayed for 15 hours in toronto's Lester B Pearson International I just spent the time pumping quarters into a Revolution X arcade machine they had in the terminal
54:13 <Lord_of_nothing> well i had the fun to visit them
54:26 <Nothing> lol that was about the only entertainment i had. it being the mid-90s and all
55:19 <Nothing> i remember the one terminal had this really cool sculpture that was a big, metal clock, but you could see the innards and it was made to look like there were little men in it operating all of the stuff inside. it was really cool.
55:39 <Nothing> i should see if i can find a video of it. i bet it's still there but damned if i remember which terminal it was in... 2 i think.
57:08 <Nothing> oh nice, it's got its own web site
57:14 <Nothing> it's called the 6 man clock
57:16 <Nothing> https://www.torontopearson.com/en/while-you-are-here/art-and-culture/past-art/six-man-clock
57:38 <Nothing> rust_collector, it's annoying to spend so much time anywhere
57:49 <Nothing> i can vouch from the many hours i spent in hospital waiting rooms
58:05 <Nothing> even though you're just sitting there, somehow it's inhumanly exhausting
58:23 <Nothing> you spend a day at the ER and it feels like you've run a damn marathon
58:32 <rust_collector> well, if I have a 1 hour flight, and I have to be there 1 hour before that, and then wait for luggage, I might as well just take the bus
59:05 <Nothing> rust_collector, we arrived 2 hours before our flight but i dunno if that was standard or just what my parents did
59:31 <Nothing> which is great when your flight takes off at like 6am
59:40 <Nothing> and is in a city an hour and a half away
59:42 <rust_collector> I think it is 1 hour for inland flights, over here. you people probably have your own rules
59:52 <Nothing> and you need an hour or more to prepare
00:12 <Nothing> you end up waking up at frickin 1am just to get there on time
00:36 <Nothing> but oh man, the excitement was so great
00:41 <Nothing> i couldn't sleep anyways
00:57 <Nothing> huh, that's a random memory i just remembered actually
01:46 <Nothing> cuz my mum and i used to go on trips to the Caribbean a lot, mexico, dominican, cuba, so i was always so excited the night before
02:09 <Nothing> i remember laying there in my bed and looking at the clock trying to sleep. but i was too excited.
02:30 <Nothing> weird how we just randomly remember stuff like that, isn't it?
02:53 <rust_collector> hmmm, I guess it was exciting?
03:02 <Nothing> yeah i had a blast
03:12 <rust_collector> so maybe you have that stored better
03:17 <Nothing> i met a girl the time in cancun when i was 12
03:39 <Nothing> and in cuba the same year i got drunk cuz they'd serve me at the bars and met another kid my age from toronto
04:15 <Nothing> the one night we met some chicks and he got sick or something and wanted me to help him to his room, but i stayed there with the girls lol
04:28 <Nothing> kind of a dick move but can you blame me
04:30 <Lord_of_nothing> re
04:45 <Nothing> i got sick too though. cuz on top of booze. they'd also sell us cigarettes.
04:48 <rust_collector> sure I can.... but... mayb e i won't
04:57 <Nothing> and of course being 12, i wasn't used to them so i got sick as shit
05:08 <Nothing> and then of course the movie 200 cigarettes was on TV
05:36 <Nothing> lol i still brought a carton back to canada with me
05:41 <Nothing> i mean, they were $1 a pack
05:45 <rust_collector> I remember tricking this guy to smoke one cigarette in each nostril
05:51 <Nothing> eww
05:56 <rust_collector> that was fun
06:04 <Nothing> even as a 20 year veteran smoker, i think that would be disgusting
06:07 <Nothing> and painful
06:21 <Nothing> although truth be told i don't smoke anymore and consider it disgusting anyways
06:26 <rust_collector> it didn't look good, no
07:29 <Nothing> there's this site i used to go on called erowid that had all sorts of info on recreational drugs and what not, and one section they'd have for each substance was these "trip reports" where people write about their experiences with the substance
08:08 <Lord_of_nothing> thats why i prefare to use the train: https://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/foto/200802/IMGP5147.jpg
08:12 <Nothing> and i'll never forget, for the nicotine one, there was one report where this guy... was clearly a teenager, was saying he was out of weed one day and really craving something to get high on.
08:21 <Nothing> so he took 3 cigarettes and made tea out of them
08:26 <Nothing> then drank the fucking tea
08:38 <rust_collector> yum
08:38 <Nothing> and proceeded to get sick as shit from nicotine poisoning
08:52 <Nothing> cuz when you smoke a cigarette, you're burning off most of the nicotine
09:11 <Nothing> you make a tea, you're getting a lot more nicotine than from smoking
09:33 <Nothing> there are a lot of kids each year who are hospitalized for eating cigarette butts and stuff like that
09:39 <Nothing> like, toddlers
10:06 <Nothing> just cuz it's so much stronger when taken orally, plus i'm sure their smaller body size had something to do with it.
10:08 <Lord_of_nothing> omg
10:50 <Nothing> i couldn't even take up smoking again if i wanted to
10:57 <Lord_of_nothing> children are stupid
11:09 <Lord_of_nothing> beside of me
11:15 <Nothing> more than once i've broken my e-cigarettes and had to resort to smoking cigarettes and i just couldn't force myself to do it.
11:38 <Lord_of_nothing> hmm you are adicted to
11:48 <Nothing> i just wound up putting drops of e-juice under my tongue. but that caused a lot of irritation of my mouth eventually from the propylene glycol
11:56 <Nothing> indeed i am
12:09 <Lord_of_nothing> well sound to
13:04 <rust_collector> I miss the old trains. the new ones we have are like big trams, and they ride like one too
13:27 <Lord_of_nothing> in witch city do you life?
13:54 <rust_collector> I do not live in a city at all. but it is about an hour to the south from oslo
14:39 <Nothing> rust_collector, they just put in a "light rail" transit system where i used to live
14:40 <Lord_of_nothing> hmm i think the use some good trains?
14:45 <Nothing> it's a shame i missed out on that
14:54 <Nothing> but apparently it was hell to build
15:08 <Nothing> they had to completely overhaul a good bit of the downtown core
16:10 <Nothing> i was around for some of that... at one point they had to erect this huge heated... whatever you call a 3D archway though they called it a dome over the downtown core so they could continue construction during the winter months
16:30 <Nothing> it was like a gigantic culvert that was cut in half and sealed at both ends
16:38 <rust_collector> I am sure the trains quality is just fine, but they still are like riding tin cans, if you compare to the old ones, which was nice and "soft"
16:49 <Lord_of_nothing> the use that: https://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/A/OeBB_4746.php
17:06 <Nothing> vagonveb
17:11 <Nothing> that's how i read it
17:31 <Nothing> i mean come on, if you're gonna have one W as a V why not both? or neither?
17:53 <Lord_of_nothing> i gues its czech
17:56 <rust_collector> because they are different letters?
18:02 <Nothing> that's pretty nice Lord_of_nothing
18:18 <Lord_of_nothing> well until you have to sitt in there for 3h...
18:25 <Nothing> rust_collector, yeah but i dunno about czech, but most languages in that area pronounce Ws as Vs
18:31 <Nothing> germany in particular
18:35 <rust_collector> those are like a heavy version of the ones we have.
18:39 <rust_collector> yes,
18:42 <Lord_of_nothing> its a wood plank with 3cm soft foam
18:47 <Nothing> so i assumed that's why he had it spelled vagon
19:01 <Lord_of_nothing> Austrian would be "Wagon"
19:29 <rust_collector> I mean the whole waggon, they just bounce along, unlike the more floating feeling of the old ones
19:49 <Nothing> Lord_of_nothing, in the one city nearby here, between here and toronto, they have these busses that are basically the length of 2 busses with a flexible bendy bit in the middle of it
20:15 <rust_collector> those are pretty common in europe
20:26 <rust_collector> we also have double jointed ones
20:27 <Nothing> and passengers are free to move between the two sections, the inside is just one big bus. nothing's separated
20:45 <Nothing> we actually have some double decker busses here, too
21:00 <Nothing> not for city busses, but for city to city travel
21:12 <Nothing> usually the busses going up to toronto and around that area
21:12 <Lord_of_nothing> here the bought this one: https://oekastatic.orf.at/static/images/site/oeka/2018027/xlgelenkbus.5714691.jpg
21:24 <Nothing> the so-called golden horse shoe of ontario
21:28 <rust_collector> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Bi-articulated_bus
21:28 <Lord_of_nothing> the cost 3x the slightly smaler one
21:50 <Nothing> rust_collector, oh that is cool man
22:09 <Nothing> Lord_of_nothing, yup that's the type
22:16 <Nothing> except these ran on natural gas
22:38 <Nothing> all of that city's busses run on natural gas for some reason
22:44 <rust_collector> we use a lot of that here, in the city they are electric
22:45 <Nothing> you'd think propane would be cheaper/easier
22:57 <Lord_of_nothing> here the use diesel
23:13 <Nothing> one of my friends' dads growing up was a cop and his crown vic ran on propane
23:21 <Nothing> you could smell it when you were around the car
23:44 <Nothing> they don't use crown vics here anymore though
23:45 <Lord_of_nothing> hmm normally you should not smell anything for that are some filter
23:48 <Nothing> i'm not sure what they use
23:55 <Nothing> not impalas
24:44 <rust_collector> it depends on the location, but no, the crown vics and impalas are no longer made.. i think they use a lot of dodges now, and the usual suburbans and such?
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25:23 <Lord_of_nothing> in germany the ban all old cards
25:41 <rust_collector> they what?
25:42 <Lord_of_nothing> cars
25:54 <rust_collector> uhm, what do you mean by old?
25:56 <Nothing> Lord_of_nothing, do you watch tom scott at all?
25:56 <Lord_of_nothing> sry for any misseplling
26:13 <Lord_of_nothing> i dont know that kind of "eur" norm is the current
26:17 <Nothing> he made a really interesting video lately about the pumps that have to run constantly to keep germany from flooding
26:32 <Lord_of_nothing> every car who polute more than X ammount of no2 (i guess)
26:53 <Lord_of_nothing> ääähhh do you mean dutch?
27:09 <Lord_of_nothing> the netherland
27:31 <Lord_of_nothing> germany have mountain netherland not *gg*
27:36 <Nothing> apparently because of all of the coal mining in the past, the gigantic piles of rubble leftover caused the land to sink down so much that they now have to run... i forget the exact number but it was a few dozen high speed water pumps to move the water up-hill to join with another river that eventually goes into the rhine
28:10 <Nothing> but the guy who ran the largest of the pumps was saying without them, 60% of germany would be flooded within less than a day
28:17 <Nothing> during rainfull
28:20 <Nothing> *fall
28:32 <Lord_of_nothing> omg i never heard about
28:34 <Nothing> or within a few days without rainfall
28:38 <Nothing> lemme link you
28:41 <Nothing> one sec
28:49 <Lord_of_nothing> i watch often german tv
29:01 <Nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LseK5gp66u8
29:05 <Nothing> there you are
29:17 <Nothing> it's a great channel btw i'd highly suggest checking out his other content
32:23 <Nothing> my bad, it wasn't 60% of germany that would be flooded
32:35 <Nothing> just the area the guy's pump was working for
33:02 <Lord_of_nothing> omg the "just" pump a river up since the get pusshed down
33:24 <Nothing> yeah it seems like a ridiculous solution
33:38 <Nothing> certainly not feasible long-term that's for sure
34:10 <Lord_of_nothing> sorry it maybe flood the valey but not more
34:33 <Nothing> yeah
34:58 <Nothing> it seems my memories overstated the impact the lack of these pumps would have
35:15 <Lord_of_nothing> so germany is damn large and the are going from the mountains to the ocean
35:19 <Nothing> that's why i'm glad i linked you to the video
35:23 <Lord_of_nothing> the also have islands
35:35 <Lord_of_nothing> dont worry about
35:40 <Nothing> Lord_of_nothing, my mom was born in germany so i should know these things lol
35:50 <Lord_of_nothing> well germany sucks
36:07 <Nothing> i still have family in tiefenbraun (sp?)
36:20 <Nothing> an uncle who works at a porche plant
36:45 <Lord_of_nothing> well ask him about current situation
36:58 <Nothing> i'm not sure if he's retired or not
37:02 <Nothing> i don't really talk to him much
37:05 <Lord_of_nothing> the europen govs are driving insane
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37:26 <Lord_of_nothing> retierd people must collect bottles to buy food
37:49 <rust_collector> germany is not THAT large, lol
37:53 <Lord_of_nothing> the dont get enough money for the pension
38:02 <rust_collector> yes, it is a long walk around it, but
39:30 <Nothing> Lord_of_nothing, that's how it is here, too
39:43 <Nothing> social services like welfare, disability and pension don't give enough to live on
40:15 <Lord_of_nothing> and many germans belive in the gov
40:30 <Nothing> for example, i'm on disability, myself. I get an extra alotment of money for transportation for doctors appointments plus a diabetic diet
40:33 <rust_collector> did you see the island that was not included, when they got rid of east germany, so in theory there is an east german island outside of cube, or something? except that they mentioned it some time, and was pretty much told to fuck off
40:54 <rust_collector> coba, not cube
40:57 <Nothing> so what they give me is $1,200
40:59 <rust_collector> cuba?
41:11 <Nothing> which is a lot for disability compared to what you get standard
41:19 <Nothing> which is more like $1000
41:32 <Lord_of_nothing> in germany you get ~400€
41:47 <Nothing> meanwhile the rent for a single room apartment in shit condition? $900 easy. If not more.
42:15 <Nothing> my mom and I split a 2 bedroom townhouse and pay $1400 which is actually cheap
42:33 <Nothing> other 2 bedroom apartments were easily $1600 or more
43:07 <Nothing> a regular 1 bedroom apartment would basically take up your entire alotment from disability and leave you nothing for anything else
43:30 <Nothing> like, they give you an alotment for rent... the maximum is like $495 I think now
43:35 <Nothing> just under $500 anyways
43:43 <Nothing> and they think that'll cover rent fucking anywhere?
43:58 <Lord_of_nothing> yes
44:10 <Nothing> meanwhile we've got shanty tent cities popping up all over and more homeless people than i've ever seen in my life.
44:39 <Nothing> i've even come close to being homeless myself if not for my mom leaving her BF and giving us the opportunity to split a place
45:12 <Nothing> i pay most of the rent with my money and she does the bills and food with her pension
45:19 <Lord_of_nothing> well in germany to pay for the rent directly to the house owner
45:23 <Lord_of_nothing> so guess what happen?
45:32 <Lord_of_nothing> the dont care a shit about the appartments
45:41 <Nothing> but she still has to work part time (light manual labor) to still stay afloat
46:33 <Nothing> Lord_of_nothing, when i was looking for a place and couldn't find anything affordable I went down to the housing unit, who are supposed to help you find housing, obviously.
46:43 <Nothing> I was given a list of homeless shelters
46:56 <Nothing> and a very small list of apartments being rented all by the same company
47:06 <Nothing> and all out of my price range
47:28 <Nothing> like, gee what are you getting paid for again?
48:19 <Lord_of_nothing> yes that sucks
49:21 <Halcyon> Morning all
49:29 <Lord_of_nothing> morning?
51:28 <rust_collector> morning Halcyon !
51:29 <Lord_of_nothing> hmm are we are permitt to talk about politics here?
51:43 <Nothing> heh it's almost 6pm here
51:53 <Nothing> Lord_of_nothing, we can talk about anything we want in here
51:59 <rust_collector> it is almost midnight here...
52:01 <Lord_of_nothing> here its soon to 00:00
53:33 <Lord_of_nothing> why here belive the us election is not staged?
54:19 <rust_collector> because if it was, they would have the counting done in the same studio as when they did the moonlanding?
56:53 <coppice> didn't you notice the fake moon dust?
56:55 <Lord_of_nothing> well how would call the system who send out to random adresses letter who people could vote
57:52 <Lord_of_nothing> in any other country the us would claim to be a false vote
58:42 <rust_collector> because the people did not ask for a ballot to be sent to them?
58:54 <Nothing> i thought election results weren't offical until some time in january
59:08 <Lord_of_nothing> yes the arent...
59:10 <Nothing> like, early january. a couple weeks before the inauguration
59:25 <Nothing> so why's everyone saying biden won?
59:52 <coppice> the results won't be final until Jan 2025
00:02 <Nothing> lol
00:38 <Lord_of_nothing> well the leftish would drive insane if trump won
00:40 <Nothing> probably, with how much trump's trying to slow things down with his spurious litigation
00:51 <Lord_of_nothing> biden the insane pedophile
03:06 <Lord_of_nothing> biden leak...
10:28 <Lord_of_nothing> i watch https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2020/general-results
12:03 <rust_collector> well, find something useful to watch, maybe?
27:37 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjX0dwXTQpg&list=TLPQMDcxMTIwMjDfiz6xzm6cdw&index=4
32:11 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Oddly satisfying. https://t.co/NmF7bVLglB
33:18 <Lord_of_nothing> can i repair my cracked finger nail with super glue?
35:32 <rust_collector> to some degree, sure
35:39 <Lord_of_nothing> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/gsRP_Js4uLl97MxgnFnpxQ6CxxxyhtRxW7cBsxgm0ZSvPLUeWGvYNb-yGerI_DmxCU5czQuIiHh79Iiexh_WsvfHfh_V0qXxZ6oYNi-NCMDSEMniVi4TzWITuC5NcEIRyMZyV61oRJcj2Yh7elYTzeLAAfmTSfNLQ9Y
36:29 <Lord_of_nothing> https://i.imgflip.com/4568wl.jpg
37:17 <rust_collector> uhm, whaaaat are you doing?
37:45 <Lord_of_nothing> i watch a crazy women
37:53 <Lord_of_nothing> and looking for cat memes
38:34 <Lord_of_nothing> i love that music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhqsPwJ8irA
40:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: There is heatshrink in here somewhere, I know it... https://t.co/D5KCot47ch
41:26 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omi-S2Q-F34
42:54 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Close. I should have used alphabetical order... https://t.co/2SNZeXVvnK
46:39 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RqS4JcTi8s
47:04 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXpmcyaj6b0
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49:00 <arch> do ya think Biden's gonna remove Choyyyyna tariffs so i can finally afford some good ICs?
49:41 <rust_collector> hmmmmm, no, not really
50:28 <arch> this has been the worst trade deal in history, maybe ever
51:01 <arch> it's so annoying ordering shit on digikey, and then BAM, on the cart part "tariffs may apply if shipped to the US"
51:45 <arch> thats why im just gonna bypass all the US distributors and order directly from china. lcsc ftw
52:19 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsprqnZLHWA
54:20 <rust_collector> Lord_of_nothing, isn' this pretty much the same as yours? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/T%C3%B8nsberg_Railway_Station_%286398922311%29.jpg/1280px-T%C3%B8nsberg_Railway_Station_%286398922311%29.jpg?1604793240366
56:48 <arch> trainies
57:00 * T3sl4 noogies arch
57:21 <arch> how's the partying going in your city T3sl4 ?
57:29 <arch> there's fireworks popping often here in NYC
57:32 <T3sl4> shrug, just got up
57:43 <arch> you just got up...at 7PM at night?
57:58 <arch> or, 6PM in central time right
59:48 <arch> are LVDS receivers capable of handing ground referenced 3.3V logic, or would they get damaged?
59:58 <arch> not that im thinking of feeding them 3.3V
00:13 <arch> im just wondering if i fuck up big time and supply 3.3V to the LVDS input lanes
01:44 <T3sl4> RTFDS
02:41 <Halcyon> Mmmm cold breakfast pizza
03:16 * rust_collector is eating round 3 of substitute shepherds pie
03:28 <Halcyon> Substitute?
03:42 <rust_collector> it is similar, but not quite
03:50 <Halcyon> Go on...
05:50 * T3sl4 nibbles some of Halcyon's non-shepherd pie
06:12 <Halcyon> Tasty slice
06:52 <rust_collector> browned mince meat, a bit of finely chopped onion, also softened, uhm, then cook small pieces of carrots, peas and corn, add spices, put a layer of mashed potatoes in...those glass "bowl" things, then a layer of the meat and veg, a new layer of potato, then cheese, then bake it for a little while
07:10 <Halcyon> I see
07:13 <Halcyon> Sounds yummy
07:20 <rust_collector> it is not bad
08:24 <T3sl4> hm, multiple layers?
08:33 <rust_collector> you can,
08:36 <Halcyon> Like a lasagne
08:38 <T3sl4> not really a pie as there's no crust, more of a casserole
08:43 <rust_collector> sort of
09:00 <T3sl4> but also, not stirred together like a casserole usually is
09:01 <rust_collector> but wth are those glass...things called
09:14 <T3sl4> what size and shape?
09:14 <Halcyon> Ramekins?
09:25 <rust_collector> well, I don't think it matters much, if you mix it or not
09:49 <T3sl4> certainly it all ends up mixed in the end :P i can see the texture might be different tho
10:25 <rust_collector> https://www.jernia.no/mam/celum/celum_assets/9418059612190_3426470269667_326444_tif.jpg?3
10:51 <rust_collector> yeah, I like to have the layers. but I am not sure if it makes a huge difference
10:54 <T3sl4> glass baking pan? with lid i guess
11:04 <rust_collector> baking pan.... ok
11:38 <rust_collector> nah, it does not have to be baked all that much, just melt the cheese as much as you like
12:01 <rust_collector> but sure, you can
12:48 <T3sl4> usually the top potatoes are browned a little bit, give or take how much cheese is covering them
13:31 <rust_collector> well, just add enough cheese.
13:58 <rust_collector> there is never too much, but at least add enough
14:47 <T3sl4> >:D
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40:32 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: For those curious how I mounted those T8 circular tube lights to my rafter beam, cable clips work a treat. https://t.co/3zpxVsf3yk
44:51 <rust_collector> okeh, good night
49:31 <Nothing> you know
49:42 <Nothing> i was just thinking idly about the theme to fresh prince
50:14 <Nothing> the theme/intro sequence seems to imply that he took a taxi from west philly to Bel Air
50:44 <Nothing> did he just like, sleep in the back of the taxi or something while the guy just drove for 2 days straight?
51:25 <Nothing> cuz the intro shows him both leaving Philly and arriving in Bel Air in the same cab
51:59 <Nothing> unless he took a c-130 to load the cab into so he could fly it out to california
54:52 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/Oq4P0LN.jpg ok, this makes even me "ugh"
57:12 <Nothing> T3sl4, really? i thought it was pretty clever
57:37 <Nothing> it's like getting a box of benedryl from my auntie cholinergic
58:54 <Nothing> speaking of which, there are 2 datura plants growing right in front of the sign of the local police station here
59:24 <Nothing> part of me is tempted to go in there and tell them how teens like to use the plant to get high, despite the fact that it's really a form of toxicity
00:36 <Nothing> actually i think they're brugmansias, which means they'll eventually turn into gigantic trees and destroy their sign
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33:06 <steve30> hi
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43:36 <aSleepingHsn> Ok
43:46 Nick: aSleepingHsn is now known as hsn
49:05 <Halcyon> Hey HSN
53:38 <hsn> Hey Halcyon
53:42 <hsn> Gm george .. i feel *Nausea* .. i ll be either late or absent ..
53:42 <hsn> Idk if the word is accurate or not but i dont feel good i cant eat ..
53:42 <hsn> no pain just feel like I'll vommit anytime
53:44 <Halcyon> What's doing?
54:00 <hsn> Just Got my self extended holiday
54:06 <hsn> XD
09:46 <Halcyon> YAY
19:29 <hsn> And u
19:31 <hsn> ?
22:44 <hsn> Halcyon: i just applied for "head of cyber security" while i know i dont fit for the job
26:24 <steve30> hi hsn
26:29 <steve30> hi Halcyon
26:55 <hsn> Hi steve30
27:01 <hsn> How is u
28:12 <steve30> Good now I just had tasty food :p
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34:22 <hsn> Yum tasty food .. i wish i feel good
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19:03 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.imgur.com/InDSKe7.jpg
19:57 <steve30> paws :D
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57:26 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Is there a betting agency that is taking odds on Julian Assange and @Snowden getting pardoned before Jan 20th? Asking for a friend.
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04:23 * T3sl4 sips a coffee
05:37 * Ysjoelfir sips a Yuzu
06:36 * T3sl4 slurps a Ysjo
06:50 <T3sl4> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
07:02 * Ysjoelfir hands T3sl4 a grilled cheese sandwich instead
07:13 <T3sl4> \o/
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13:28 <Kuschelpony> hello everyone from a german sunday morning
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16:04 <Halcyon> Evening Kuschelpony
16:10 <Halcyon> Sunday night here in Sydney
16:28 <Kuschelpony> ah
16:29 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir is from your neck of the woods
16:36 <Kuschelpony> nice
16:43 <Ysjoelfir> wutt?
16:50 <Halcyon> Das Germany
16:52 <Ysjoelfir> Ich leben nix in Wald!
17:09 <Ysjoelfir> Ich leben in beschissene Großstadt
17:12 <Ysjoelfir> ;P
17:26 <Kuschelpony> i am new here, primarily from a different culture (Furries) but plan to occassionally visit your channel and do more electronic projexcts again this winter
17:46 <Kuschelpony> oh, Ysjoelfir big towns can be annoying, but tiny villages have their other set of issues
18:00 <Kuschelpony> have not yet signed uzp to the EEV blog forum
18:03 <Halcyon> steve30 is into Furries... or whips, I forget which :P
18:17 <Kuschelpony> :)
18:33 <Halcyon> You would be surprised of the diversity among the electronics community
18:48 <Kuschelpony> im not sure if we should discuss this n detail here, but i would say there is a lot of stuff that mixes somewhere :)
18:51 <Halcyon> We have gays, trans, even the odd American or two :P
18:57 <Ysjoelfir> well, if you enjoy Furries I can immagine that :D But if you are your boring standard guy villages are nice :) but yes, the moment you are just a tad off standard it can get very nasty :X
19:00 <Ysjoelfir> ew, americans!
19:02 <Kuschelpony> oh well im sure as i am already passively readfing since years
19:02 <Ysjoelfir> where?
19:07 * Ysjoelfir grabs his shotgun
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19:12 <Halcyon> Hehe
19:27 * Ysjoelfir hears someone cursing in american english in the kitchen
19:30 <T3sl4> Halcyon: i know, we're a freakish bunch
19:41 <Halcyon> :P
19:47 <Halcyon> Morning T3sl4
19:55 <Halcyon> Ever-lurking as always
20:00 * T3sl4 pats Halcyon
20:19 <T3sl4> Everlurking, what a shady place
20:33 <T3sl4> (sounds like Bluff Eversmoking, a location in the original Unreal)
20:34 <Halcyon> Well, welcome Kuschelpony, hope you stick around, don't be too offended... just about anything goes here.
20:37 <Kuschelpony> i invited a friend who is HAM as well but he has not yet joined, seems to be afk that moment
21:00 <Ysjoelfir> yep, we even had lemons sometimes in here
21:05 <Kuschelpony> Halcyon, i really get not that easily offended, usually its the other way around happening unintentionally
21:11 <Halcyon> True, where the hell is Lemon?
21:14 <Ysjoelfir> or a freakin ex-viking!
21:18 * Ysjoelfir stares at rust_collector
21:36 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon? No idea. should I write him again and force him to join?
21:42 <Halcyon> Yes, he is missed
21:48 <Kuschelpony> currently considering trying to start a shoirtwave receiver project again this winter
21:51 <Halcyon> I loved squeezing him
21:53 * Ampera chokes Halcyon 
22:02 <Halcyon> Shh, he's here. Hide :P
22:05 <Halcyon> Oh hey Ampera
22:07 <Ampera> y'all are dumb
22:19 <Ampera> I hate all of you from the bottom of my cold dead heart
22:22 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds very interesting mr. pony :) I would love to see that project
22:25 <Ampera> hi Halcyon how are you doing
22:25 <Halcyon> Love you too Ampera
22:31 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Ampera, we love you too :)
22:36 <Halcyon> I am in the middle of cooking dinner
22:53 <Ampera> Dinner is a strange name for a guy.
22:57 <Halcyon> I have smashed potatos in the oven getting all nice and crispy
22:57 <Kuschelpony> currently i am trying to find a balance between too complex to finish before running out of motivation, and too simple to be useful
22:58 <T3sl4> i don't seem to have much interest in radio, but also the few i've build have been in vacuum tube of all things
23:11 * Ampera buggles T3sl4 
23:14 <Halcyon> Toobs
23:19 <Halcyon> I miss those crisps
23:21 <T3sl4> Halcyon, https://i.imgur.com/8iNxr4J.png
23:31 <Kuschelpony> tubes are nice as well, have still my old audion for medium wave that got almost useless the past years as the stations disappeared
23:36 <Halcyon> Nice :P
23:46 <Ampera> oh neat, new person
23:48 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toobs
23:48 <Ysjoelfir> Do it with twoobs. T3sl4 and I love twoobs!
24:08 * Ysjoelfir collects them, kind of
24:09 <Halcyon> They were delicious.
24:15 <T3sl4> ah, neat
24:24 <T3sl4> indeed, Bugles are a similar sort of thing
24:35 <Halcyon> I might have to try them
25:21 <T3sl4> here's a nice partial shot of a 20m set i made https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Radio_20m/Images/RF_Preamp.jpg
25:35 <Halcyon> I love your sexy pics T3sl4
25:37 <Ampera> Halcyon, did you hear about the orange guy?
25:51 <Halcyon> Who? Trumples? Yeh apparently he is having a sook
26:01 <Ampera> well more that he lost
26:10 <Halcyon> Well yeh
26:20 <Ysjoelfir> So, guys, before we venture deeper into Twoobs: (and yes, I love T3sl4s sexy pics as well!) Lets just have a short moment of silence before we all express our deepest wish that Lemon comes back. ok?
26:24 <Halcyon> I still don't know if that's good or bad.
26:25 <T3sl4> by a concerningly small margin, at that
26:38 <Ampera> Halcyon, neither
26:53 <T3sl4> and Yes-joelfir, it hasn't been as tangy in here lately
26:58 <Halcyon> Ask me again in a year, I will probably have the same response
27:22 <Kuschelpony> nice, well done with the minis
27:56 <Halcyon> It's not about the size Kuschelpony... at least not with T3sl4 :P
28:19 <Kuschelpony> my idea is currently, if a direct mixer with a ring mixer with BF545 would be an good idea, to have better IP3 than the NE612
28:33 <Kuschelpony> oh, i love the miniatur tubes
28:44 <Halcyon> It was a penis joke... nevermind :P
28:49 <Kuschelpony> but to say a GU81 also looks nice (have not yet done much with this bottle)
28:53 <Kuschelpony> oh
29:06 <Halcyon> Aussie humour
29:06 <T3sl4> Halcyon's mind is always on my toob
29:17 <Halcyon> ^ Pretty much
29:35 <Halcyon> He is such a toob tease
30:04 <T3sl4> i'd have to look up those things, but also if you're just starting to have a go with things, do something as a baseline first, optimize it later
30:28 <Ysjoelfir> Well, that wasn't as overwhelmingly "Lemon we want you back!-ish as I have hoped (at least thank you T3sl4 for joining :D ), so... back to twoobs. I wanted to build kind of a plug-in PCI-E powered amplifier card with a subminiature tube output. like a preamp of some sort. no electrical connection to the PC, except power
31:19 <T3sl4> the actual first radio i made was transistors (and is mostly scrapped bits now), it performed quite poorly for a number of reasons, which i more or less solved in the tube set; also i think tubes are easier to get good isolation between stages on, and their capacitances don't vary much with conditions so they're easy to tune
31:43 <Ysjoelfir> then I thought "why not make a real soundcard", and looked into that, noticing that its pretty much impossible to get the necessary ICs...
32:15 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, PCIe interface idunno, but DACs are cheap and plentiful?
32:17 <Kuschelpony> oh no worries, i was very much into electronics DIY until something ten years ago, but then life changes let me stuck with boyes full of half-finished projects
32:43 <Ysjoelfir> THEN I thought about a hackjob, like getting a usb soundcard IC which can be bought from TI, adding a PCI-e to usb bridge. should work, but the bridge chips I found were obsolete ._.
32:51 <Kuschelpony> my first radios were built something 30 years ago when i was young
32:56 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, problem is: I don't want to write a driver
32:58 <Ysjoelfir> or better
33:09 <Ysjoelfir> I CAN'T write a driver, as I don't have any clue how to do that
33:34 <T3sl4> that's the real problem ;)
33:40 <Ysjoelfir> the hardware side of building a "real" soundcard shouldn't be that big of a deal, in the general view.
33:47 <Kuschelpony> Ysjoelfir, seems i am not the only hardware freak who is not into software
34:00 <Halcyon> Could you not butcher the analog side of an existing soundcard?
34:23 <Kuschelpony> i also have somewhere my own soundcard half-finished with the upc27something, plus an not begun amplifier with TPA3118
34:32 <Halcyon> Jump over to a secondary board and do all your tooby goodness there, whilst letting the Soundblaster (or whatever) card do its thing?
34:56 <Ysjoelfir> I could, Halcyon, and I wanted to do that for a single one of version just for myself, but then I thought about doing it in volume, and now you're doomed xD
35:09 <Ysjoelfir> upc27something rings a bell, I think I wanted to use that as well
35:11 <Halcyon> Mmmmyes
35:40 <Halcyon> You could always reverse engineer one of Serda Shop's designs?
35:56 <Halcyon> https://www.serdashop.com/RetroSoundcards
36:40 <Ysjoelfir> also, regarding hardware freak not being into software: exact. I prefer to have pure hard hardware (no, Halcyon, not what you think!), which is why I think I should look into FPGAs, and learn to program those, as its as hard as software can get imho..
37:09 <Halcyon> What do you take me for Ysjoelfir
37:10 <Ysjoelfir> I never knew about those, Halcyon. I will look into these
37:11 <Halcyon> I actually agree
37:15 <Halcyon> I hate programming
38:01 <T3sl4> there's a lot of hifi peoples rolling DACs and such, i imagine there's a few common platforms that have available drivers and that support a number of DACs of various quality
38:31 <T3sl4> impure hardware is just a strap-on
39:32 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, also check out https://texelec.com/
39:37 <Halcyon> They do modern clones of old cards
40:31 <Kuschelpony> im pretty sure the upc is fine for simpel Hi-Fi, espically when everythign is done without the usual ground problems - thats also why i like the differential inputs of the TPA
40:42 <Halcyon> Anyway back to dinner, back later guys
41:18 <T3sl4> o/
41:40 <Ysjoelfir> I should definitely look more into retro sound stuff and DIY DACs... oO but no, not now, I wanted to focus on my power analyzer :P
41:58 <T3sl4> i find it amusing that coax/unbal signals are almost never used differentially, thus making them vulnerable to ground loop
42:46 <Kuschelpony> tradition...
42:50 <Ysjoelfir> I wondered the same. I had a nice soundcard which supported true differential signals (ESI Juli@) and my amp does that as well. it was just so nice and convenient
43:13 <Ysjoelfir> also, I loved the thick cables with realy nice, beefy 6.35mm jacks I had to use then
43:25 * Ysjoelfir hates those flimsy 3.5mm jacks
43:54 <Kuschelpony> hihi
43:56 <Ysjoelfir> sadly, my PC doesn't have a PCI slot anymore, so now I have a... erm....
44:04 <Ysjoelfir> *looks that up*
44:09 <Ysjoelfir> Asus Xonar DGX
44:11 <Kuschelpony> well, the 6,35mm plugs are totally suitable for balanced connections
44:25 * T3sl4 flagellates Ysjoelfir with a USB cord
44:29 <Kuschelpony> for RF screening in my opinion even better than many bad XLR
44:37 <Ysjoelfir> yikes T3sl4 :D
44:56 <Kuschelpony> i know that design decision of the original XLR to NOT connect the shell
45:45 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I love 6.35mm jacks. use them for many things as I once bought 5 kilos of 6.35mm jacks, cut off from professional studio grade gear. threw out all the 50 cent plastic ones and STILL have a whole drawer full of nice ones xD
46:22 <T3sl4> yay
46:59 <Kuschelpony> wow, good buy
47:28 <Ysjoelfir> only problem: I only got jacks. no receptacles. and good ones are freakin expensive
48:43 <Ysjoelfir> aaand just a side note: don't we all love it when we work on some part of a project for some hours only to look at it the next day and notice that we just didn't think about some parasitic effect that totally destroys that whole thing? :D
50:34 <Ampera> I actually have a quite interesting setup for my audio. I use TOSLINK headphones
50:39 <Ampera> wireless ones
50:50 <Ampera> so noise is almost not a thing
51:19 <Ampera> no ground anything, nothing power line, completely self contained DAC inside the headphones
51:53 <Kuschelpony> oh, well i usually overthing parasitic effects before :) so i need often weeks more for an overengineered solution
53:44 <Ampera> These are the headphones I use actually https://en-us.sennheiser.com/wireless-headphones-home-audio-rs-175
54:02 <Ampera> easily the best wireless headphones I've ever used, and besides no passive passthrough, there really isn't a complaint I can think of
54:27 <Ysjoelfir> I am working on a kinda precision power analyzer, doing the analog frontend right now. I thought about input protection for the voltage channel, to protect a pretty expensive voltage divider resistor array from drifting due to overcurrent, as that thing has to be rated CAT IV and could receive pulses of up to 8kV. Sooooo.... I thought about many things and settled basically for a GDT + MOV in series + some other stuff thats not im
54:27 <Ysjoelfir> right now. calculated the impact on frequency response (nearly none, as the GDT is very low in capacitance and should cancel out the influence of the MOV?), calculated maximum power that could go through the resistor, calculated maximum drift and so on - sounded great. So I started with the schematic. Opened it like 30 min ago to continue and thought "wait... what impact on the RESISTANCE would that have?" - well, the GDT has >1Go
54:27 <Ysjoelfir> parallel that with 10M input resistance and you get an error of roughly 1% -.- damn :D
54:52 <Ysjoelfir> I hope that didn't got cut off?
55:16 <Ampera> They sound great, have a day's worth of battery life, the dock is useful, the wireless range is acceptable for TV or PC usage, the batteries are not only replaceable, but they're rechargeable AAA's that recharge on the dock and can be changed without screws
56:28 <Ysjoelfir> those look very nice ampera :D I'm a bit more old fashioned right now with my "new" soundcard, before I went balanced to the amp and from there to my headphones, now with the Xonar DGX I can split the signal in the card already and output to the amp over toslink and analog to my headphones -> Telefunken TH 900 https://www.hifi-wiki.de/images/8/8b/Telefunken_TH-900-Prospekt-11.jpg
56:37 <Kuschelpony> i got the full text
56:54 <Kuschelpony> in this case i would live with a trimemr tat trims out the 1% if its a personal project
57:10 <Kuschelpony> but worry more about frequency dependency
57:14 <Ysjoelfir> should be a commercial one sadly, so no compromises here^^
57:59 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: who cares about a 1% error in input resistance?
58:05 <Ampera> I do.
58:06 <Ampera> I care immensely.
58:09 <Ampera> It ruins my fucking life.
58:12 * T3sl4 shunts Ampera
58:12 <Ampera> I have to deal with it every day.
58:24 * Ampera ESD's T3sl4 
58:36 * T3sl4 shoves it up Ampera's backside, significantly increasing his output resistance
59:19 <Ysjoelfir> not in input resistance T3sl4, but as it would be in parallel to the voltage divider it would influence the division ratio... no, wait, it would not.
59:24 <Kuschelpony> no worries, im back soon
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59:50 <T3sl4> why would you put it where it makes the AFE excessively vulnerable? :)
02:02 <Ysjoelfir> whats an AFE?
03:57 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: I am working on a kinda precision power analyzer, doing the analog frontend right now <--
05:09 <Ysjoelfir> ah
05:19 <Ysjoelfir> wasn't familiar with that abbreviation
06:43 <Ysjoelfir> But I don't get it completely. Why would adding a protection make the frontend vulnerable? or did you mean vulnerable in terms of precision and accuracy?
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13:36 * Ysjoelfir pokes T3sl4
13:51 <T3sl4> if it was in parallel with the dropper resistor :P
19:23 <Ysjoelfir> I am a bit at a loss I think. I'm sure I just think way to complicated and overlook the obvious :D
19:32 <Ysjoelfir> the basic Idea is this:
19:52 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eHMJzn1xwSLn0rKm4aXsASVg6hVExLgq/view?usp=sharing
20:13 <Ysjoelfir> meh sorry for the wrong orientation
21:07 <Ysjoelfir> and obviously the ADC should connect to one of the dividing points, not directly to the U_hi line
26:12 * Ysjoelfir coughs silently T3sl4 's name and hopes he doesn't annoy the grand master while doing so
27:10 <T3sl4> what's the er, ff?
27:30 <T3sl4> and, obviously the truck should drive beside the ADC, not crash into it :)
27:33 <Ysjoelfir> an ultra fast fuse
28:16 <Ysjoelfir> lol. the scribbled truck and so on is printed on the paper I use xD its from a transportation software company I once worked with.
28:33 <T3sl4> oh, not putting the protection at the line
28:52 <T3sl4> but wait, wheres the dropping resistor then
30:09 <Ysjoelfir> I wanted to use eg. a PTC and a 1k in series as the fuse, the fuse is just a placeholder right now to illustrate some not yet completely specified protective element
30:56 <Ysjoelfir> obviously I won't directly shunt the line, as that could get very nasty :P
32:10 <T3sl4> can't say i've seen any PTC rated for >kV
35:18 <Ysjoelfir> true
37:54 <Ysjoelfir> well, even a simple dropper R would be ok. But I still don't get where I could put the frontend in danger.
42:10 <T3sl4> i dont get what the 10M is there for, tho
42:29 <T3sl4> you have the ADC connected across it? how the heck do you make a ADC with kV of input range and Gohm of resistance?
43:21 <Kuschelpony> hmm, with tese resistance level i would really consider to spread the capacitance as well to make it frequency independ
43:39 <Kuschelpony> and i have seen long HV fuses
43:51 <Ysjoelfir> ok, I see that my very crude drawing is shit xD the 10M is the voltage Divider resistor to select the ranges for the ADC. your typical 900k/90k/9k/1k resistor hybrid. its "steps" go to an analog switch which feeds the ADC
44:57 <T3sl4> oh, so the ADC is connected wrong then, ok
45:22 <Ysjoelfir> yes, sorry, should have made that more clear when I wrote [11:21:06] and obviously the ADC should connect to one of the dividing points, not directly to the U_hi line
46:09 <T3sl4> so i did this the other day https://i.imgur.com/MTc2IN0.gif (that's one clock cycle from the function generator inbetween frames, and some bad cameramanning from me)
47:27 <Ysjoelfir> cute, a twoob SMPS driver? :P
48:33 <T3sl4> the little module in the background is a 12 to 150V converter
50:08 <T3sl4> (the big ferrite core to the mid-left, behind, is just a CMC for the PS)
51:42 <Ysjoelfir> that looks nice. just for shits and giggles, or have you some plan with that?
51:47 <T3sl4> S&G
52:05 <Ysjoelfir> we love that :P
52:11 <T3sl4> it's actually a pair of type D f/f's and the neon lights are Q and /Q of each
52:36 <T3sl4> they're chained together so of course they simply alternate when clocked, when the data are unequal; or they sit in place and do nothing when equal
53:44 <Ysjoelfir> nice :) Next project will be a twoob opamp?
53:50 <Ysjoelfir> mr. pony, what would you suggest to do about the capacitance? I already try to make it as small as possible by having very short ways to the ADC. should be a few pf at best.
54:20 <T3sl4> amps are boring. done that years ago
55:17 <Ysjoelfir> ok sensei :P
56:29 <Kuschelpony> i would place a chain of small capacitors in paralell to the divider resisotrs, the upper capacitors inversely proportional to the resistors and the lower capacitor adjustable to trim out how much capacitance the ADC input has to ground
56:56 <Kuschelpony> so in the sum of all, the dividing ration of the capacitors to be equal to the dividing ration of the resistors
56:59 <T3sl4> at mains frequency, you might not need to worry about compensation, but above a few kHz give or take, it's obligatory
57:28 <Kuschelpony> i had seen a DIY mains probe that i want to build as well but not yet cleared some questions about safety
00:09 <Ysjoelfir> Right now I plan to have two versions of the frontend, one very simple one, basically for mains and DC (as that would probably be its main use - efficiency measurements, as its gonan get two channels), and one more wideband one with maybe up to 1 or 10 MHz, but that one will come later. though I'm already gathering ideas how to make it as good as possible. So I will write that down.
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