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30:31 <Ampera> good morning everyone
31:02 <Ysjoelfir> mornings Ampera
31:09 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir 
31:16 <Ampera> how is my second favorite german
32:13 <Ysjoelfir> your second favorite german is in a meeting with his customer who is an idiot :D but I'm feeling great. how about you?
32:39 <Ampera> I just woke up, and reconsidering, you're probably my favorite German. You bumped my dad for #1 :P
32:49 <Ysjoelfir> yay \o/
32:52 * Ysjoelfir hugs Ampera
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04:15 <electrohead> o/
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11:19 <hsn> Hey ampera will u login with us
11:24 <hsn> To among us
11:36 <hsn> Also steve30 k .. others ?
11:53 <hsn> https://countingdownto.com/?c=3313876 this time i hope?
12:02 <K> sry, work
12:24 <Ampera> No, I'm working, and even if I wasn't, Among Us is discount TTT and I'd rather just play TTT
12:36 <hsn> Ttt?
13:03 <K> TiTTs
13:06 <K> obvs
13:25 <Ampera> Trouble in Terrorist Town
18:13 <coppice> IN terrorist town, life's a blast
22:29 <hsn> Ampera and K what time u working
22:36 <hsn> And not working
22:48 <Ampera> The morning shift, the afternoon shift, the night shift, and the graveyard shift.
23:00 <Ampera> and the short shift
38:19 * T3sl4 shrifts Ampera
38:29 * Ampera shreds T3sl4 
38:33 * Ysjoelfir hugs mr. head
38:37 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. head
38:40 <Ysjoelfir> do you like me?
39:04 <Ampera> Nobody likes you. Nobody likes anyone. We exist in a post-amiable society.
42:53 <coppice> We're all graduates of FU
46:33 <K> am generaly working till evenin, 20:00, GMT+3
46:36 <Ampera> Oh I love crackademia
46:49 <K> but then it is go home and eat and gf time and whatnot
51:10 <Ysjoelfir> realy? :(
51:20 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead, tell me. I need to know :(
51:24 <Ampera> Indubitably.
55:17 <rust_collector> BOIOIOIOIIING!
55:24 <Ysjoelfir> rusty!
55:28 <Ysjoelfir> do you like me? :'(
56:06 * hsn likes Ysjoelfir
56:07 <rust_collector> fffff
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56:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol
56:31 * Ysjoelfir hugs hsn
56:34 * hsn has left (dieing)
56:42 <Ysjoelfir> :(
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56:48 <Ysjoelfir> all my friends leave me
56:56 * hsn hugs while dead
57:02 <rust_collector> DED!
57:04 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
57:09 <rust_collector> oh
57:17 <Ampera> I wish I was dead.
57:19 <Ampera> That would be fun.
57:25 * hsn ok.. hug done .. dies again ..
57:32 <Ampera> Maybe I'll finally have friends in hell
57:48 <hsn> Ampera lots of shisha there
58:03 <Ampera> smoking is a sin
58:13 <rust_collector> there is no sin
58:23 <hsn> Charcoal is ready 24/7 in hell
58:28 <coppice> Ampera: so, salmon processing is a sin?
58:38 <Ampera> coppice, it's delicious enough to be one
59:26 <rust_collector> hi Ysjoelfir
01:48 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
01:55 <rust_collector> HEY!!!!
02:02 <Ampera> oh nice, I just noticed the date
02:05 <Ampera> Friday the 13th
02:24 <rust_collector> you should get a lottery ticket
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04:55 <rust_collector> What is happening on this wonderful day after thursday?
07:19 <Ysjoelfir> Had a looong meating with my annoying customer. He got a guy doing the programming and now he FINALLY believed that its a stupid idea to build that thing to miniature size and now I am allowed to build it in a size you can actually debug it^^
07:56 <rust_collector> but...
07:58 <Ysjoelfir> *meeting
07:59 <Ysjoelfir> xD
08:25 <Ysjoelfir> but?
10:48 <rust_collector> but ok. so I guess that is good. but I guess there is a reason why it was so small? will the final thing still be small?
11:56 <Ysjoelfir> yes. but you just can't debug something where the biggest passive is 0201 size and the biggest IC has 50 "pins" on 4x4mm...
12:07 <rust_collector> must be fun having a loooong meating with mr dickhead
12:27 <rust_collector> right
13:27 <rust_collector> is there anythng on it that would behave different, if you changed the size of all the things?
13:28 <Ysjoelfir> I told them several times before, but they were like "naaaah, we trust your skills!".. doesn't have to do much with skills though, you always have something you want to alter or fiddle around with or try differently
14:33 <rust_collector> hehe, make a version with thruhole stuff, on stripboard
15:47 <rust_collector> like, is there a larger version of the 4x4mm ic? and does it behave the same as the small one?
17:48 <Ysjoelfir> nah. not THAT big. I'll use just regular SMD ICs with leads you can actually reach to measure stuff, and just "normal" passives with like 0805 size.
20:50 <rust_collector> so, that prototype was made... and no one knows if it works?
22:18 <Ysjoelfir> it works, kind of
22:21 <Ysjoelfir> well
23:06 <Ysjoelfir> let me define that more precisely
24:02 <Ysjoelfir> the SoC works. Bluetooth works sort of. Sensors don't work, mainly because the datasheet didn't tell me which direction I was viewing that thing from, so I assumed it was top view, but it wasn't.
24:11 <Ysjoelfir> analog stuff works mostly
24:19 <rust_collector> I mean, if he just got a guy to program it...
24:31 <rust_collector> heh, upside down chips
24:35 <Ysjoelfir> yep
24:48 <Ysjoelfir> fixed one by hand, but that was no fun
24:56 <Ysjoelfir> let me show you
27:04 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bi9pf4iq1XJOpz4UBQdY_4CZLOSmOi7v?usp=sharing
28:24 <rust_collector> chip on blob. that is nice
28:44 <Ysjoelfir> that pointy thing in one pic is a needle, for size reference
29:37 <Ysjoelfir> like, a small pin needle thing, not a big sewing needle^^
30:07 <Ysjoelfir> that damn sensor is 2.5x3mm in size
31:39 <rust_collector> perfect for not me. I would outsource that stuff to somewhere they have underage small people
33:23 <Ysjoelfir> I let them do the PCBs. were very nice people actually
33:36 <Ysjoelfir> and the assembly as far as they could
34:48 <rust_collector> this is the drawing, and I want this chip hand soldered upside down on top of the blog
34:51 <rust_collector> blob
36:30 <Ysjoelfir> well, I'm sure they would have done that for me, but as I already told mr. customer the approximate price I'm sure he wouldn't have appreciated it rising even more :D
37:44 <rust_collector> does he have any idea of how many of these things he will sell?
38:41 <Ysjoelfir> well, he asked me for prices for 500, 1000 and 3000 pcs. So... I think he estimates at least 500
44:29 <Ysjoelfir> oh, rust_collector, a question. I'm looking for small pieces of round stock on ebay. I think the small lathe will work best with copper and alumimuniuminum alloys, while steel might be doable but... pretty slow I think.
44:30 <Ysjoelfir> alu is pretty simple, I personally don't like working with it, at least when I worked with it on my old lathe it always felt.... strange and I never was quite satisfied with it. so I would like to use mainly copper alloys. would you advise me to get "automation copper", brass or bronce?
45:14 <rust_collector> i would use alumaxium
46:26 <rust_collector> no, but aluminium is nice, but you have to use different angles, and the feeds and speeds are probably different. as for the yellow stuff..
47:54 <rust_collector> uhm, they are very different materials... like... bronze is good for bearings, brass is pretty hard, copper cuts like chewing gum
48:59 <rust_collector> that thing will cut steel, but yes, it would take some time, as you have to take sort of light cuts
50:26 <rust_collector> I think you should look into grinding your cutting tools correctly for the material, and not so much what material you want to use for everything.
50:34 <Ysjoelfir> what would you use copper for then?
50:46 <rust_collector> what I would use for copper?
50:50 <K> what is that, a board for ants?
51:13 <rust_collector> ask K, he should know
51:30 <Ysjoelfir> yep, I'll be learning to sharpen tools of all sorts :) already put my woodworking tools on the bench to try to sharpen these this weekend. the chisels for the lathe will be next
51:42 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, I know, the processes are very different
52:09 <K> ask me what?
52:30 <rust_collector> lathe tools for coppe
52:31 <rust_collector> r
52:45 <K> uhm, nope, dont know much about lathes
52:56 <Ysjoelfir> I meant what you would do with copper. like, what projects would I do with it.
53:05 <K> but coper on mill is tricky
53:19 <rust_collector> copper is like machining chewing gum
53:34 <K> it is soft and deforms plastically when you clamp on it
53:42 <rust_collector> I would use copper to make bus bars, lol
53:53 <K> precision bus bars?
53:55 <rust_collector> candle holders
54:09 <rust_collector> no, very rough get it done bus bars
54:14 <Ysjoelfir> so more for decorative things I guess? not for structural?
54:23 <Ysjoelfir> and sure, its a good conductor, obviously
54:29 <rust_collector> copper is soft.
54:29 <K> specific uses i'd say
54:48 <K> also reacts with shit quite happily
54:50 <T3sl4> hard temper (rolled/drawn) copper, isn't any more fun to machine but it keeps its shape at least
55:08 <rust_collector> it is also not exactly cheap?
55:09 <T3sl4> dead soft, pure copper, you can bend thick bars by hand
55:33 <Ysjoelfir> well, no yellow metal is especially cheap I guess :D
56:23 <T3sl4> there are machinable coppers, though the things that make them easier to machine or stronger, also trash the resistivity, so if you need absolute minimum resistance you're kind of stuck
56:52 <T3sl4> which includes work hardening itself, the defects that cause work hardening also cause resistance. no free lunch
56:55 <Ysjoelfir> I don't think I'll do things on the lathe that'll be connected to any circuit though
58:03 <Ysjoelfir> I will just use it for decorative things and general machining in my workshop, like making washers to size and stuff
59:36 <T3sl4> as generic parts go, aluminum alloys like 6061 or 356 are fine
00:03 <Ysjoelfir> But I don't like alu :D
00:14 <rust_collector> I guess I would go for brass or proper metal for washers and such.
00:18 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer brass, had the best results with that stuff yet
00:24 <T3sl4> brass and bronze are reasonably strong, and many are free machining (some very strong, though those ones tend to be less machinable)
01:02 <rust_collector> but yes, if you want to make "stuff" aluminium
01:05 <T3sl4> brass/bronze also good for bearings, less friction to dissimilar metals such as steel
01:39 <T3sl4> and yeah, copper alloys are pricey, probably won't be buying up meters of stock on a whim :P
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02:17 <T3sl4> there are some softer and free machining steels too, or cast iron maybe
02:22 <Ysjoelfir> indeed. like a piece of 28mm stock, 42mm length is 5€ x.x can get a meter of steel for that :D
02:32 <Ysjoelfir> I heard cast stuff is bad to turn?
03:01 <rust_collector> cast stuff...
03:09 <rust_collector> there is cast all the metals
03:54 <rust_collector> cast iron machines ok.
04:25 <Ysjoelfir> probably. what I heard was, that cast metal is tricky because of potentially trapped air bubbles that could render your thing useless?
04:37 <rust_collector> sure
05:01 <T3sl4> if it's shite
05:21 <rust_collector> maybe no so much air bubbles, but carbon chunks and stuff. but that is more if you are casting it yourself
05:47 <T3sl4> 356 and other 300 series aluminums are particularly easy to cast, you can even grow your very own hydrogen bubbles with them :)
06:33 <rust_collector> I am looking forward to Ysjoelfir trying to translate this into euro standard names, lol
06:53 <Ysjoelfir> I am actually trying that right now :D and I think it is ST37 and 33?
07:08 <Ysjoelfir> no wait, that is steel
07:11 <Ysjoelfir> gra
07:33 <Ysjoelfir> i was searching for standard aluminium stock materials for lathes -.- why do they show me steel?
07:42 <Ysjoelfir> stupid website
08:13 <rust_collector> because steel is what you really want
09:07 <Ysjoelfir> meh. :P
09:21 <T3sl4> feh, AISI rules the world don't you know?
09:40 <T3sl4> or, ASTM
09:50 <rust_collector> AlSi7Mg
10:00 <rust_collector> nice easy to remember
11:39 <K> just look at the spectrograms like a normal person
11:46 <K> srsly
12:07 <Ysjoelfir> Another thing I want to try is plastics. Dirt cheap and there are some realy sturdy ones out there as far as I read
12:15 <rust_collector> sure
12:23 <rust_collector> but they are still plastic
12:36 <Ysjoelfir> like POM. I read its like *THE standard steel* in plastics.
12:45 <Ysjoelfir> sure, one would have to keep that in mind
12:51 * T3sl4 ionizes K
12:56 <rust_collector> turns easy, but also makes forever-chips
12:56 <K> rude!
13:10 <Ysjoelfir> but eg. for my reduction thing to adapt my 22mm flywheel to a 19mm shaft I think that would be fine?
13:44 <rust_collector> mmmh, how was that, it was a tapered shaft?
14:16 <rust_collector> or hole..?
16:20 <Ysjoelfir> ah, didn't update you there. there was a taper on the compressor shaft, but I found an original flywheel and want to use the other one I got for the motor
16:32 <rust_collector> oh
16:46 <Ysjoelfir> and those are both just normal round shafts
16:51 <rust_collector> so straight hole and shaft, with a keyway?
16:57 <Ysjoelfir> the motor with a key, the flywheel with two setscrews
17:55 <rust_collector> ok. well, uhm. it could work, but I would not do that
18:16 <Ysjoelfir> why?
18:33 <rust_collector> just because of my gut feeling
18:45 <Ysjoelfir> because of the material, or just in general not?
18:46 <rust_collector> I mean plastic bushing
19:27 <rust_collector> nah, making an adapter bushing is fine. But I think I would make it in metal
19:51 <Ysjoelfir> ah. :) well, one of the brass stock I found has roughly the same size, so I might make it from brass
20:04 <rust_collector> even if there probably is some kind of plastic that would work
20:59 <Ysjoelfir> glass fiber reinforced teflon!
21:54 <rust_collector> hmmmm. I think teflon is fairly dense... but... it is not something I have worked with
21:58 <hsn> Yum teflon bushings
22:21 <hsn> Its being used i think as bushing
22:58 <rust_collector> sure. but bushings are used for many very different things
23:18 <K> bushy bushy
23:26 * Ampera parches T3sl4's corns
23:37 <hsn> U right .. idk the application here i just came in and gave my flying opinions
23:46 <hsn> XD
24:01 <Ysjoelfir> I kind of fear that the part could strip where the key will be. but otoh... what could be the worst thing to happen?
25:06 <Ysjoelfir> I could also drill a small hole in the motor shaft and cut a thread into that, adding a safety screw with a big washer
25:12 <K> you spend a night in the forest somewhere
25:15 <rust_collector> it will not strip, if it is tight, and you have 2 set screws sitting on the key.
25:25 <rust_collector> but...
25:26 <hsn> It fire and some gas around and explode .. to some more near tank explode further more
25:49 <rust_collector> well, it could fly off, and cut all your neighbors in half
25:55 <Ysjoelfir> COOL!
25:59 <rust_collector> right?
26:02 <Ysjoelfir> thats a plus for me!
26:26 <hsn> It flies and cut ur cat in half
26:43 <K> GET CLEFT IN TWINE, YOU FILTHY CASUALS!
26:55 <hsn> 3.5 lifes 2 pieces left ..
27:05 <Ysjoelfir> well, that would be not that great :D
27:09 <K> 3.5 ?
27:12 <Ysjoelfir> mrs spouse wouldn't approve
27:23 <K> 9 lives for a cat here, usually
27:25 <hsn> K .. we say a katze have 7 lifes
27:34 <hsn> 4.5 ..
27:37 <hsn> But
27:40 <hsn> One post
27:43 <hsn> Lost
27:51 <hsn> During the halfing process
28:00 <hsn> 3.5
28:02 <K> ok
28:06 <hsn> Happy xd?
28:14 <K> for now
28:28 <hsn> Great
28:58 <rust_collector> but both halves are still cat, and they had 9 to start with, so you would end up with 16, as one is lost, but since both parts are 100% cat, they have 8 left each?
29:24 <Ysjoelfir> right!
29:46 <hsn> Mean while im having the cozy sleep https://photos.app.goo.gl/kA6Fah132XzxC54J9
29:54 <rust_collector> or would it be 17, so only one is gone, so half for each half.
30:02 <Ysjoelfir> uh, that looks nice hsn
30:31 <rust_collector> hsn has enough books to make a new bed
30:39 <hsn> Not mine
30:44 <hsn> Fathers
30:52 <hsn> U saw my old room
30:55 <hsn> Didnt u
30:57 <hsn> XD
31:04 <rust_collector> meh, they will be yours some day
31:21 * Ampera sneezes
31:22 * Ampera sneezes
31:23 * Ampera sneezes
31:30 <Ysjoelfir> Gesundheit!
31:38 <Ampera> God bless you.
31:40 <hsn> He says they would be easily worth of 40k usd
31:47 <Ysjoelfir> who?
31:55 <hsn> Ampera u scared me at third
31:58 <rust_collector> that is if you find someone who want them
32:04 * Ampera sneezes harder at hsn 
32:07 <hsn> Vater says
33:11 <hsn> rust_collector .. thats what i debated with him .. he says if he want to sell fast it will be 37k or somthing
33:25 <rust_collector> my uncle insulated his garage with old german textbooks
33:43 <rust_collector> for some reason. I do not think it works very well, lol
33:44 <Kuschelpony> i consider high current transformerless tube amps to be itself a doubtful design, but that fan makes it really special https://i.postimg.cc/bYC31K0J/ar-vt200-2.jpg
34:21 <Ysjoelfir> that... erm... why?
34:27 <hsn> Mostly from suadi ppl who .. their goverment doesnt allow the book stores to bring these kind of books
35:24 <rust_collector> Book stores... I remember those
35:25 <hsn> Insulated wuut
35:40 <hsn> Library we call
35:41 * Ampera sneezes pink fibreglass at hsn 
35:50 <hsn> I just sneezed Ampera
36:03 <rust_collector> you people are sick
36:08 <hsn> Also im immune Ampera
36:08 * arch shanks Ampera with a carrot
36:12 * Ysjoelfir is taking a shower. brb
36:18 * Ampera rotogropes arch 
36:22 <hsn> I work in fiber glass company
36:38 <hsn> Resin smelling is my game
36:38 <arch> hsn, i want to know: has it affected your lungs?
36:50 <rust_collector> oh, so that is why you are working on a stainless toilet
37:16 <hsn> Arch im not daily in factory but ofc its not healthy .. i can ask ppl for u ..
37:16 <K> that is a pidly fan.
37:50 <hsn> rust_collector: the story is .. they design the whole toilet cabine .. integrate the toilet from other suppliers
38:02 <rust_collector> I do not think the resin is all that bad. but the dust from sawing the stuff is probably not great
38:27 <K> isn't the hardener toxic or somthing?
38:43 <rust_collector> sure it is toxic, don't drink resin
38:44 <K> i was always told to be careful with hardener
38:58 <rust_collector> and don't get it on your eye
39:01 <arch> yeah i've cut PCB with a dremel before, and inhaled quite a bit of the dust. not sure if i'm gonna die in a few years cuz of it tho
39:07 <Kuschelpony> well, first the fan is far too small so it must run at high speed and noise, which is noit well for an music amplifier, and second as its in the middle of an almost open bottom mesh so the air can circulate around the fan instead of beeing pushed across the tubes
39:33 <K> but its the thought that counts!
39:43 <K> at least for audiophilistines
39:54 <K> in a way it is like homeopathy
40:00 <rust_collector> i do remember a guy who had to rinse his eye in acetone for half an hour, because he got resin on it
40:10 <rust_collector> that did not sounds great
40:11 <K> acetone isnt toxic afaik
40:23 <K> will sting a bit prolly
40:24 <arch> just explosive :3
40:25 <hsn> I though u talk about smelling the barrel of resins
40:31 <K> raisins
41:48 <Kuschelpony> well, i have service audiophile equipemnt and audiophool equipment in my past job
42:09 <Kuschelpony> there are also engineers who can do it right :)
43:11 <rust_collector> do tubes need cooling much at all?
43:44 <K> suposed to run hot
44:22 <rust_collector> I guess there is a limit to how hot, but I also guess that if they run that hot, you want to use more or bigger ones?
44:33 <Kuschelpony> usually they dont need to, but if you pack a lot of them in an small case and run several amps of plate current to drive the speakers without an matching transformer...
45:12 <rust_collector> but do the tubes care, or is it just to keep the case form burning?
45:18 <Kuschelpony> both
45:55 <Kuschelpony> tubes can last for decades, but you can also ruin them in tens of hours from overheating which increases the risk of tine leaks
46:13 <rust_collector> and, you mean the transformer on the output, right?
46:15 <Kuschelpony> the real big ones have limits for temperatures at their varoius selas
46:21 <Kuschelpony> yes
47:31 <rust_collector> hmm. interesting
49:11 <Kuschelpony> i love to restore some tube gear, but i cry when i see what religious attempts some people make today to build amplifiers with them
49:21 <Kuschelpony> instead of solid engineering
49:36 <K> the warm sound of tube amp compells you!
51:13 <Kuschelpony> well, i love them for their nostalgic value, and in soooooome speeeecial cases some very c###! music really sounds better when pushed through the right kind of distortion
52:01 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
53:08 <rust_collector> very c###! ok,
58:50 <rust_collector> ooh, wife bought some new pills for me.
59:33 <rust_collector> that will be interesting. the list of possible side effects is pretty impressive
00:38 <rust_collector> "blood will fall out" heart will fail, your skin will dissolve. yes, that sounds good
02:16 <coppice> rust_collector: I love watching TV ads for medication when I'm in the US. The list of side effects typically includes the problem the medicine is supposed to fix
02:24 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
03:13 <rust_collector> you have to make sure your market will not disappear
04:31 <hsn> Ampera:
04:47 <hsn> I got some nice article for u
04:49 <hsn> https://betanews.com/2020/11/11/windows-21/
05:16 <Ampera> to "take the OS we love and make it better"
05:42 <Ampera> you mean take the OS I dislike and put some gaudy skin on it
05:55 <hsn> XD
05:58 <Ampera> because as we all know, it's the skin that makes an operating system, kernels and userlands don't exist
06:14 <Ysjoelfir> re
06:16 <hsn> U dnt waste more words on it
06:27 <hsn> Doesnt worth ur time
08:09 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: bist du ist groß und nett?
08:24 <rust_collector> I want my windows to look like 98 or xp or something. no funny effects
08:25 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, thanks for ordering 666 crates of Nordic Semiconductor ICs to Bahrainian Toilet Co. Ltd. - the nordic shares rose again!
08:26 <Ampera> well that's how you know it's the end of the year I guess
08:33 <Ysjoelfir> and I want that windows as well, rusty
08:40 <rust_collector> any time Ysjoelfir
08:41 <Ampera> the department calendar looks like a clusterfuck of vacation reminders
08:59 <Ysjoelfir> and hsn: I'm not THAT big but very nice indeed. also you would say "Bist du groß und nett?" without the "ist"
09:18 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: ampera doesnt want to play with us
09:23 <Ysjoelfir> :O
09:23 <hsn> Among us
09:25 <Ysjoelfir> mean
09:32 <Ampera> I'm not a fan of the game
09:42 <Ysjoelfir> I never played it, but it sounds nice
09:42 <Ampera> it's just a worse form of TTT
09:43 <hsn> He says its copy or clone of other game callee ttt
09:52 <Ampera> it's like TTT but with all the annoying aspects of gmod murder
10:36 <hsn> But give it a try .. like few games and see how it goes .. with the discord voice chat
10:38 <Ampera> the main difference between them is in Among Us you run around like a little bitch waiting to get tapped
10:55 <hsn> Aint we all little bitch?
10:59 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, with the shares going up like this, have you gained enough to buy ice cream?
11:00 <Ampera> in TTT you get to blow the traitor's (in among us this would be the imposter) head off
11:04 <Ampera> if they don't blow yours off first
11:21 <Ampera> hsn, I've played it before, I even own it on Steam
11:33 <Ampera> I play it with people from work, but I'm not the biggest fan.
11:51 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector yes. if I would sell them now I would have made 16.33€.
11:58 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
12:30 <Ysjoelfir> imho thats a share thats not for quick money but a long term investment, if the trend continues
13:18 <rust_collector> you have to hurry up before they go out of business
14:22 <rust_collector> Not that I know much about it, but it seems to be a fairly "stable" company.
15:45 <rust_collector> ok, time to go. have fun.
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17:26 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy rusty :)
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21:48 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o ThunderSqueak
22:37 * Ampera hugs ThunderSqueak 
22:39 <Ampera> how are you doing
27:08 <hsn> Is T3sl4 sleeping now?
27:18 <arch> T3sl4 never sleeps
27:26 <arch> he's always hunting noobs on the forums
27:37 <hsn> Its 11:27am
28:00 <arch> he's in the US. it's 12:27PM here in NY
28:35 <hsn> Arch he always answer professional in noob questions
28:46 <arch> o derp, i thought you said 1:27am
28:53 <T3sl4> mornin hsn
28:59 <arch> damn right. T3sl4 is a treasure to all
29:00 <hsn> Damn
29:16 * arch gives T3sl4 a lollipop for his service to humanity
29:39 <hsn> Morning T3sl4 did u sleep last 24h .. seriously im no kidding?
29:43 * T3sl4 sucks
30:08 <T3sl4> hsn, yes?
30:21 * Ampera rotogropes T3sl4 
30:31 <hsn> What time was it .. i missed it
31:10 <T3sl4> did you miss it because there was a 8 hour span you weren't here?
31:50 <hsn> I think so T3sl4
31:58 <hsn> But maxbe i wasnt
32:27 <arch> hsn, https://i.imgur.com/2jTVGpB.png
32:55 <T3sl4> :)
33:16 <hsn> Im a donkey if u put me near T3sl4 ..
33:32 <T3sl4> i'm not touching your ass, hsn
33:55 * hsn horse sound making
34:00 <hsn> Hrrrr
34:03 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir gets that honor ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
34:46 <hsn> Thanks .. my ass is not for touch
43:48 <Ysjoelfir> lol
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03:00 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 I wonder.. are you using AD20? I got the impression that its slow as fuck in some cases, especially when creating components. I have the feeling its checking stocks and prices everytime you clock something as that doesn't happen if you just have a blank component.
09:18 <T3sl4> that can happen, yeah
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09:34 <T3sl4> you can collapse the supplier link part in properties
09:48 <T3sl4> maybe using cached supplier data helps too idk
09:56 <T3sl4> check under preferences/data
12:02 <Ysjoelfir> I know I saw the cached data option once, but can't seem to find it anymore, I have looked for it as I thought that might help as well.
13:01 <T3sl4> or maybe that's just bom generation or bomdoc?
13:23 <Ysjoelfir> collapsing the part choice doesn't seem to help though, sadly. what I found is helping is: just select something while working. like, place some arbitrary pin somewhere, select that, and then its smooth again.
13:41 <Ysjoelfir> bom creation while creating a part in a library?
14:19 <T3sl4> heh
14:30 <T3sl4> so, blank parts are slow?
15:20 <Ysjoelfir> nope. at least not THAT slow. I still have the feeling its slower than in AD17, but nut nearly as slow as in a part with linked supplier data
16:12 <Ysjoelfir> and selecting *something* (or better, anything) helps in the blank part as well. strange
16:53 <Ysjoelfir> so we have three speed grades: selected something, selected nothing in a blank part, selected nothing in a part with manufacturer links
18:06 <T3sl4> so, when nothing is selected it's updating part properties
19:55 <Ysjoelfir> I think so. when something is selected it obviously shows the properties of said something. but why would it update the properties everytime you start doing something as simple as placing a line?
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13:37 <electrohead> so I'm switching to the linux-zen kernel on my main laptop
13:53 <electrohead> now I need to start manually compiling certain things, yay :D
13:58 <electrohead> worth it, though ~
15:53 <Ampera> electrohead, what's the benefit of the zen kernel anyways
16:02 <Ampera> I've seen mention of it, but I'm not sure what the fuss is about
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18:32 <Nothing\> kebert xela
19:34 <Nothing\> for some reason audacity can't open anything that's been recorded in windows' "voice recorder" app. Which saves them as .m4a
20:38 <Nothing\> so i need to convert the damn thing to something else, but i haven't got a sound conversion utility so i've gotta go and try to find one of those that isn't garbage and try to convert it to .wav or something and hope to god audacity understands what it is
20:52 <Nothing\> and they say computers are supposed to more user friendly than ever
21:29 <Nothing\> i've still never had a microphone that either didn't work outright, or was just a pain in the ass to get working in 25+ years
21:52 <Nothing\> *did work right
22:37 <Nothing\> anywho i can see nobody's here
22:52 <Nothing\> so i'm just going to continue talking to myself without end
23:15 <Nothing\> at least i can talk to the role model, he always has good things to say
23:24 <Nothing\> isn't that right?
23:28 <Nothing\> damn skippy!
24:37 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
24:57 <Nothing\> oh heya Ampera
25:00 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
25:03 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
25:09 <Nothing\> how ya doing, buddy? watcha up to?
25:10 <electrohead> Ampera: https://liquorix.net/
25:14 <electrohead> that list is pretty much the same
25:17 <Nothing\> i'm doing alright, just got back from the methadone clinic
25:33 <Ysjoelfir> so mr. head is here now but didn't answer to my heartbreaking question? :(
25:36 <Nothing\> lol get this ampera, you know i take clonazepam, right? which is a controlled substance
25:44 <Ampera> ok
25:44 <electrohead> but, I mainly I want to try it out for the scheduler change-up, and also the patches required for anbox to get working
26:10 <Nothing\> well, last time i got it filled, i took it to a difference pharmacy cuz my usual one was closed at the time so i just used my back up
26:16 <electrohead> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Anbox#Rebuild_kernel_with_necessary_options
26:18 <Nothing\> had 6 months worth of refills on it
26:54 <Nothing\> but my usual place i go to. when the script ran out there, they called the doctor's office and actually got him to fax over a SECOND prescription to them
26:54 <Ampera> electrohead, sounds good
26:55 <electrohead> was going to just manually reconfigure/compile the kernel, but from what I'm reading, it has its benefits for a daily driver of a kernel
27:05 <Nothing\> so now i get my usual refills at my back-up pharmacy
27:08 <Ampera> maybe I'll give it a shot at some point
27:13 <Nothing\> and a second set of refills at my usual pharmacy
27:24 <Ampera> electrohead, but why are you going to have to compile it manually
27:44 <Nothing\> cuz they keep calling the doctor's office for refills and despite prescribing me 6 months worth and having that on file, they keep faxing new scripts over to this pharmacy
27:54 <Nothing\> and the pharmacy just gives em to me without even asking me
28:00 <Nothing\> they just throw them in with my methadone
28:16 <electrohead> oh, sorry - meant I was originally thinking about just compiling the kernel with those added options from the anbox wiki page
28:21 <Nothing\> which, did i mention mixing them with methadone has a relatively high likelihood of death?
28:24 <Nothing\> since they're sedatives
28:27 <electrohead> but, it also states that the zen kernel already has them enabled
28:34 <Ampera> oh man mainline is already at 5.9.8, I'm still at .9.1
28:36 <Nothing\> so this is a huge liability issue for my shrink
28:54 <Nothing\> i should tell him about it next time i'm in
28:59 <electrohead> and since the zen kernel already has a bunch of performance patches, .. why not
29:01 <Nothing\> frankly i'd like to stop taking these things
29:02 <electrohead> lol
29:04 <Ampera> If I do switch kernels I'll likely compile my own though with the ZFS module embedded
29:15 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: had to scroll up a few pages; do I like you?
29:15 <Ampera> as eventually I plan to migrate from ext4 to ZFS
29:19 <electrohead> umm, yes
29:20 <Nothing\> they've fucked my memory to the point where i don't even study STEM stuff anymore cuz i don't remember anything i learn
29:22 <electrohead> lol
29:26 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
29:31 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, did you see?
29:31 <Nothing\> which, knowledge and learning were my two biggest passions
29:33 <Ysjoelfir> he likes me :)
29:40 <Nothing\> take those away from me and i'm literally nothing
29:45 <Nothing\> not Nothing\
29:51 <Ampera> I need to figure out how to assembly my own PXE-bootable squashfs environment like Arch provides already
30:04 <Ampera> so I can customize the tooling and stuff to not leave me up shit's creek if ZFS blows up in my face
30:07 <Nothing\> Ampera, elf interpretter update?
30:16 <Ampera> wha?
30:22 <Nothing\> i dunno, i'm just spouting non-sense lol
30:31 <Ampera> elf interpreter is almost an oxymoron
30:32 <Nothing\> elf is a scripting language
30:51 <electrohead> I still need to play with ZFS
30:52 <Ampera> Nothing\, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executable_and_Linkable_Format
30:58 <Nothing\> so when i tried to compile zsnes once it gave me the error "bad elf interpretter"
31:01 <Nothing\> which i thought was amusing
31:10 <Ampera> electrohead, it's already in service on my FreeBSD server, works well enough
31:22 <Ampera> I really want it for the fs snapshot functionality so I can make live backups
31:27 <Nothing\> dammit, how do i get hexchat to stop opening urls in microsoft edge
31:37 <Ampera> Nothing\, set your default browser to whatever you use
31:48 <Nothing\> yeah i suppose i should peruse the options
31:56 <Nothing\> i thought of that literally the second i hit enter
32:05 <Ampera> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/change-your-default-browser-in-windows-10-020c58c6-7d77-797a-b74e-8f07946c5db6
32:16 <Nothing\> you know, i hate saying the word literally these days, because when i say it i mean it in the literal sense that it's supposed to mean
32:23 <Nothing\> whereas all of these teens are like
32:31 <Nothing\> "oh man, i was literally embarrassed"
32:49 <Ampera> these teens? what do they keep walking on your lawn?
32:56 <Nothing\> i say something like "i have literally oodles of these things" and the joke goes over everybody's head cuz they think i'm just talking like that
33:03 <Ampera> playing ding dong ditch and upsetting your dog?
33:18 <Nothing\> lol dude i did actually used to complain about the kids outside at my one old place
33:23 <electrohead> Ampera: that's the main reason why I do want to check out ZFS, for the snapshot capability
33:47 <Nothing\> that's nothing though, i lived in an apartment building for seniors for a while with my mom and her now ex-bf
33:50 <Ampera> My main concern about ZFS is setting it up, using it, fucking it up, and then not knowing how to unfuck my shit
33:55 <Nothing\> the people there were such terrible busy-bodies
34:08 <Nothing\> my first day in there i had a complaint for "moving too much stuff in"
34:20 <Nothing\> wtf business of theirs is it what i move in?
34:31 <Ampera> because when I can't unfuck my shit, and shit's fucked, it'll be fucking shit to unfuck that shit, all the while shit's still fucked and I can't work on my shit with my shit because that shit's fucked
34:32 <Ampera> fucking shit
34:39 <Nothing\> then there were constant accusations that i was smoking pot on the elevator
34:49 <Nothing\> cuz i'd leave the building and go for a walk any time i smoked, right
34:55 <Nothing\> but the smell would stick to my clothes
35:06 <Nothing\> so when i came in, naturally the smellwould hang in the elevator for a bit
35:30 <Nothing\> but they were convinced i was smoking it in the elevator, despite the camera and absolutely no supporting (or video) evidence
35:53 <Ampera> who the fuck would smoke shit in an elevator
35:56 <Ampera> that shit's fucked
35:58 <Nothing\> yeah no shit
36:00 <electrohead> lol
36:02 <Ampera> fuck man
36:03 <Nothing\> it's just stupid, but it does happen
36:11 <Nothing\> dude when i was in criminal court
36:19 <Nothing\> this was just after federal legalization
36:37 <Nothing\> so the hallways of the courthouse absolutely reeked like weed
36:54 <Nothing\> cuz these people would smoke a joint before going in and it'd hang on their clothes
37:10 <Nothing\> and they'd just smoke right out front of the courthouse
37:30 <Nothing\> which to me is akin to taking a swig out of your bottle of whiskey before going in
37:40 <Nothing\> from a legal standpoint, anyways
37:54 <Ampera> taking a swig sounds like something people would do anyways
38:02 <Nothing\> oh they do
38:27 <Ampera> when you're shits fucked, all you can do is say fuck it, and shit a fuck down your throat so you're fucked up while being shit on
38:38 <Nothing\> hell there was one guy who got busted where i used to live (kitchener/waterloo/cambridge) he was trying to sell heroin to a fucking lawyer
38:39 <Nothing\> lol
39:04 <electrohead> lmfao
39:06 <Nothing\> actually i remember the one time after family court, i still had my suit on and stopped at city hall to throw a piss (a canadian term)
39:09 <electrohead> this conversation is interesting :P
39:23 <Nothing\> and when i came out of the building, this guy asked me if i knew where to get some crack
39:24 <Ampera> There was a guy who once tried to sell me heroine, when I saw what he was offering I was disappointed when I found out it was just wonder woman comics.
39:27 <Nothing\> me, in a 3 piece suit
39:45 <Ampera> did you tell him?
39:47 <Nothing\> like a guy in an impeccable 3 piece suit knows where to get crack
39:56 <Ampera> that'd be the first person I'd ask
40:04 <Nothing\> Ampera, i just told him "do i look like i know where to get crack? use your fucking head"
40:13 <Nothing\> minus the "fucking"
40:19 <Ampera> where I live if you're in a 3 piece suit you're either employed by the city, or a drug dealer
40:25 <Ampera> either way you could tell me where to get hooked up
40:34 <Nothing\> drug dealers here don't wear suits
40:42 <Nothing\> they're all run down and shifty looking
40:52 <Nothing\> actually the weed dealers i knew were all standup people
41:18 <Nothing\> most of them, anyway
41:24 <Ampera> Here you gotta wonder whenever you're going through a meh part of town and see a real nice luxury car parked on the side of the road
41:33 <Ampera> next to all the ditchbank toyotas and chevys
41:37 <Nothing\> that's the thing about weed dealers though
42:30 <Nothing\> you get some who want to be your friend, so every time you come over they want you to hang out and shoot the shit and it takes like an hour. meanwhile you just wanna get home and smoke your weed. and you don't wanna smoke there cuz weed makes social situations awkward as hell.
42:49 <Nothing\> or you get the polar opposite where they just wanna do the transaction and get you out of there
42:50 <Ampera> drugs are fucked up shit though
42:55 <Nothing\> they are
43:03 <Ampera> I wouldn't shit my fuck with that fucking shit, even if I was shitted in the fuck like a fuckshit
43:07 <Nothing\> even weed is a lot worse than people make it out to be
43:26 <Ampera> I seem to be full of a load of shit the fuck today.
43:36 <Nothing\> i've had some genuine serious mental health issues as a result of trying to stop smoking weed or just struggling with the addiction
43:44 <Nothing\> it's not as benign as people make it out to be
43:48 <Nothing\> i mean, it's no crack
44:12 <Nothing\> but it's still addictive enough that a guy will spend every penny he has on it. even if it's not in his best interest
44:25 <Nothing\> ie, sacrificing responsibilities to get more weed
44:51 <Nothing\> you crave it just the same as any other drug. and when you get cravings, you get desperate and when you get desperate you do stupid things.
45:46 <Nothing\> it may not be as severe as other drugs. it may be easier to ignore which honestly is what's worked best for me, historically. but it still has the potential to cause harm to your life
46:11 <electrohead> "I seem to be full of a load of shit the fuck today."
46:18 <electrohead> we need a quote bot in here
46:32 <Nothing\> electrohead, either that or you need to sit on the can
46:38 <Nothing\> i know i need a good poop
46:54 <Nothing\> i haven't had one in almost a week and i've got an entire apple crisp in me that i ate the other day
49:20 <Nothing\> this idle game i came across is kinda neat
50:08 <Nothing\> instead of just being idle, you can play pinball to accumulate points and other currency for upgrades like extra bumpers or extra lives
50:15 <Nothing\> or score multipliers
58:22 <Nothing\> would you guys say it's rude if you're talking to somebody and in the middle of talking to them, that person turns on a machine or some equipmen that basically drown you out
58:28 <Nothing\> not necessarily intentionally
59:15 <Nothing\> more out of absent-mindedness than anything
59:29 <Nothing\> i dunno, my mom keeps doing that to me and it's hard not to take offense
00:07 <Nothing\> she doesn't mean anything by it. But it still pisses me off and hurts me on some level cuz it feels like she just doesn't care about what i'm saying.
00:38 <Nothing\> which isn't the type of person she is. i know. but silly, neurotic, insecure me seems to think so.
02:56 <Nothing\> it's hard to tell if i'm justified in feeling hurt by this, or if i'm just being too touchy about it.
06:06 <Nothing\> i would really appreciate some input on this whenever somebody's around and has time to read it. going back about the last 10 lines or so
11:12 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
11:33 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4 tight <3
11:35 <Nothing\> hey friend
11:39 <Nothing\> how are you?
12:38 <T3sl4> Nothing\: understandable, i guess i'd ask, or take a passive aggressive response to see if the reciprocation is understood
12:49 <T3sl4> or could just be coincidence, idunno
13:14 <Nothing\> well she's aware of it cuz i've brought it up on many occassions
13:19 <Nothing\> pretty much every time she does it
13:37 <T3sl4> might as well reciprocate the passive agressiveness then
13:45 <Nothing\> i get the feeling it's just out of absent-mindedness/coincidence but part of me still can't help but take offense
13:48 <T3sl4> or move it to a more active "oh i see, i'll go now"
14:05 <Nothing\> no it's definitely not a passive aggressive thing
14:32 <Nothing\> even though passive aggression is her MO, she has no real reason to be angry at me
14:35 <coppice> T3sl4: "reciprocate the passive agressiveness"? Yeah, it always seems like that's the result of some internal combustion
15:03 <Nothing\> yeha in general reciprocating passive aggression is a bad idea-
15:40 <Nothing\> the best idea is to take a pro-active and confrontational approach. but the key is communication. since there is none with a passive aggressive person
16:34 <Nothing\> i think i'm just being too touchy as well
16:36 <coppice> the key to effective communication with a passive aggressive person is a baseball bat
16:37 <T3sl4> coppice: true, it tends to just go round and round
16:49 <Nothing\> i'm very delicate emotionally when it comes to my loved ones
17:11 <Nothing\> constantly questoining whether they really love me or not unless they do something to show it blatantly
17:17 <coppice> T3sl4: people that go round and round are just a bunch of wankels
17:29 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhEfvGZM6jw
17:43 <Nothing\> ah crap i lost a fingernail i bit off
17:45 <T3sl4> coppice: yeah, vane people generate excessive friction
17:53 <Nothing\> now i'm gonna end up stepping on it in a month later
18:05 <Nothing\> T3sl4, well, neither of us is vain
18:12 <coppice> T3sl4: they need a good paddling
18:18 <Nothing\> vane is like the sort you use for wether btw T3sl4
18:30 <Nothing\> *weather
18:56 <Nothing\> i only correct you cuz i'd want to be corrected if i wer ein you shoes
18:59 <Nothing\> not out of pedantry
19:01 <T3sl4> Nothing\: the wankel engine uses apical vanes to seal the chamber, which requires a lot of pressure and thus incurs a lot of wear and friction, the major downside to the design
19:19 <Nothing\> ah i thought wankel was a typo of wanker
19:37 <coppice> yes, that's the gag
19:43 <Nothing\> indeed, i just got it
19:49 <Nothing\> but you guys hear that?
19:56 <Nothing\> just a moment ago
20:09 <Nothing\> 'twas the sound of the joke going over my head
20:28 <T3sl4> *yells in the distance*, i think i heard someone your fingernail
20:36 <T3sl4> someone find your*
20:46 <Nothing\> lol i found it, it was just in lap
21:04 <Nothing\> i dunno about you guys, but i find using clippers on my fingernails feels weird and gross
21:30 <T3sl4> only problem i have with them is the burr they leave
21:31 <Nothing\> i've always gotta bite them off, which leaves jagged edges i have to file down. lest they get caught on anything made of fabric.
21:41 <Nothing\> yeah, that crap
21:50 <Nothing\> you gotta use an emory board for that
22:15 <Nothing\> trust me, my fingernails have been so much better since i started using emory boards for those burrs
22:39 <coppice> emory boards take a while. that can really grind you down
23:03 <Nothing\> heh only if you start fresh without cutting the nail first
23:12 <Nothing\> emory boards are more for detailing
23:29 <T3sl4> coppice, illegitimi non carborundum
23:33 <Nothing\> getting rid of those rough areas and potential hangnails
23:56 <T3sl4> i keep an actual (metal) file at my desk for that purpose, among others
24:16 <coppice> T3sl4: shouldn't it be "illegitemi nils carborundum"?
24:19 <Nothing\> nice, i used to have a metal one but i'm not sure what happened to it
24:32 <Nothing\> the cardboard dollar store ones work just as well imo
24:40 <T3sl4> if you want to be grammatical about it
25:08 <coppice> T3sl4: my last Latin lesson was in the swinging 60s, so I might not have been paying full attention
25:41 <T3sl4> regardless of grammar, i quote the slogan
26:05 <T3sl4> the file, i also ground the tang off and put a steep edge on it, which i use for scraping various things
26:24 <Nothing\> they should replace alex trebek with ben stein
26:34 <Nothing\> don't you think he'd be a great host of Jeopardy!
27:19 <Nothing\> or better yet
27:20 <T3sl4> nah, he's done a game show before, wouldn't fit with jeopardy
27:24 <Nothing\> bobcat goldthwait
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27:52 <Nothing\> he has just the sort of dignity befitting of a Jeopardy! host
28:29 <coppice> Nothing\: clippers cause a lot of stress lines in your nails. If you do something like play guitar you get used to only grinding down nails
29:06 <Nothing\> coppice, i noticed that too
29:24 <Nothing\> they try to bend the nail straight, as opposed to its natural curve
29:46 <Nothing\> i'd get these marks on my nail like bruising or something in each place i had the clippers
30:06 <T3sl4> not so much that, as smashing the nail causing it to mushroom out at the end, which happens laterally as well as vertically
30:17 <Nothing\> i always used a pick when i played guitar
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30:36 <T3sl4> if your nails are prone to peeling in layers, that tends to exacerbate it
30:43 <Nothing\> T3sl4, sounds fun
31:12 <coppice> I find it odd that places selling classical guitars don't stock nail care products. good ones are a pain to find in general personal care place in supermarkets
31:18 <T3sl4> so after using a clipper, you go over it with emery or file to knock down the edges, but the end is still weak from all that deformation
32:27 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yeah that's why i just use my teeth
33:29 <T3sl4> my teeth aren't sharp enough, or i just never got into it, to do my nails
35:36 <Nothing\> phew nodding off
35:40 <Nothing\> think it's coffee time
35:50 <Nothing\> i thought it was a lot later thna it is cuz it's really dark out
36:03 <Nothing\> thought it was more like 7pm or so, but it's close to 3:30
37:42 <Nothing\> huh, i just shot this bit piece of quartz with my large UV flash light and it's got a tiny particle of something fluorescent in it
38:04 <Nothing\> has some black specks in it and the fluorescent stuff was around there
38:39 <Nothing\> wonder what fluorescent compounds occurr with quarts besides uranium
40:33 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: everyone likes u ..
44:21 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
44:52 <T3sl4> hsn: going to bed soon?
45:48 <hsn> Somtime In next 2 hours T3sl4
45:53 <hsn> Me be in comma
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03:22 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/LRzqh8s
03:28 <Nothing\> sleepy time for the kitty
03:37 <rustophone> good night
04:19 <Nothing\> the funny thing is, he sleeps by the window to keep cool under his bushy maine coon coat
04:26 <Nothing\> meanwhile i put a blanket on him
04:36 <rustophone> Ysjoelfir: are you up and not too drunk?
04:45 <Ysjoelfir> kind of?
04:49 <rustophone> cats are weird
04:56 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
05:09 <Nothing\> we're probably just as weird to cats
05:21 <Nothing\> i wanna teach my cats to use the toilet
06:13 <rustophone> wife sent a load of puctures of... flavour-water. I am not sure why... but anuway, are you super sure you want rhis stuff?
06:19 <Nothing\> i was thinking of getting one of those potty seats for children without the hole in the bottom that you just put inside your toilet seat and filling that full of kitty litter
06:33 <Nothing\> rhis?
06:39 <Nothing\> chris?
06:51 <Nothing\> ffs
07:12 <Nothing\> apparently my mom's ex is asking my aunt about the inheritance they got from my grandmother's estate
07:19 <Nothing\> trying to find out how much money they got
08:04 <Nothing\> he was giving my mom a hard time about it the other day. i was about ready to tell him it's none of his damn business and if calls again it'll be the last time cuz hel'l have restraining order put against him for criminal harassment
08:04 <electrohead> so far so good with the zen kernel
08:10 <Ysjoelfir> yes, mrs spouse is sure^^
08:18 <rustophone> ok then
08:37 <rustophone> electrohead: are you messing with arch?
09:12 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, i heard one guy refer to his wife as "the woman who lives with me"
09:19 <electrohead> yeah, just install the zen kernel, now making sure the video drivers for my nvidia chipset work correctly (bumblebee setup)
09:19 <Nothing\> but by that definition, my mom is my wife
09:21 Quit: Raiser ([email protected]) EOF from client
09:28 <Ysjoelfir> lol
09:35 <Nothing\> though she might as well be, with all she does for me. minus the sex stuff of course.
09:40 <Nothing\> that'd just be weeeird
10:12 <rustophone> you should find a nice hot stepmum...
10:31 <electrohead> lmfao
10:32 <Nothing\> it's funny cuz i always said before we got a place together that my idea woman was basically somebody willing to replace my mother with no problems about it
10:45 <Nothing\> hence i wasn't exactly in the market for a relationship cuz i knew it'd be unfair to her
10:59 <Nothing\> i actually had somebody tell me i was selfish because of thta
11:14 <Nothing\> i think selfish would be if i got a woman in that sorta relationship
11:17 <electrohead> no way, I got everything to work correctly first try \o/
11:29 <Nothing\> electrohead, awesome dude
11:36 <Nothing\> rustophone, that'd be the day
11:48 <Nothing\> actually i've always had a fetish for incest
11:59 <Nothing\> like there are at least 2 of my cousins i'd screw
12:08 <rustophone> i look forward to your zen crash later...
12:21 <Nothing\> and if i had a sister, i'm sure i'd have wanted to screw her
12:41 * arch kicks Ampera into the "my little pony" channel
12:53 <Nothing\> i mean, my brother's exwife was the closest thing i had to a sister and wanted to screw her so bad
13:14 <Nothing\> i even whipped out the hammer once when i was wasted... after several rejected attempts
13:30 <Nothing\> my reasoning was that if she saw what she was missing out on, it might change her mind
13:49 <Nothing\> not so sure my brother was very happy about that, since he was right there and they were still married at the time
13:52 <hsn> Ysjoelfir
14:00 <Ysjoelfir> thats me
14:07 <Nothing\> we didn't talk for some years after that lol
14:34 <rustophone> hello, mr hsn sir. i hope you are making good day
14:34 <EEVBlog> Hello there, rustophone!
14:35 <hsn> I was seeing someone who in isreal parlement doing prayer calls
14:55 <hsn> Huh u got a phone irc client
15:02 <hsn> Hello back to u
15:03 <EEVBlog> Hello there, hsn!
15:19 <rustophone> have sex with yourself, EEVBlog
15:19 <EEVBlog> You can get that on the internet now?
15:41 <rustophone> hsn: no, i use irssi
16:00 <hsn> So .. i remembered .. a 201x video .. of morocco parlement ..
16:08 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: .. skip to 1:00
16:12 <hsn> https://youtu.be/Zuuv0XBse2E
16:23 <hsn> U will laugh..
16:48 <hsn> No one has right to stop him for 3 mins
19:11 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
19:21 <Ysjoelfir> why that?^^
20:34 <hsn> Idk .. i always thought at that time that he is sending message
21:04 <hsn> That these parlament is bullshit .. not solving any shit .. just a theatre
21:49 <hsn> Holyfck rustophone r u chatting from terminal
22:03 <rustophone> yes
23:24 * electrohead throws weechat at rustophone
23:31 <rustophone> as i am used to. except on the desktop, because that had hexchat pre-installed. I uaually usr irssi
24:22 <rustophone> mr head.... i am getting tired of brushing these weechats away...
26:36 <rustophone> sure it works ok, but why install all that bloat.
28:05 <hsn> Gn all of u nice ppl
28:33 <rustophone> oh, is the wife snoring already?
29:12 <rustophone> put a pillow on her head, that tends to help
29:16 <Ysjoelfir> xD
29:23 <rustophone> good night
30:40 <rustophone> Ysjoelfir: you know this is going to be non-cheap, right?
31:17 <hsn> Also i sleep first
31:52 <rustophone> do you have a company i can ship to? I might get a good deal on shipping to a companyq
31:58 <hsn> I never pic chineese having fun at work
32:01 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/tv/CHeztcQHMt_/?igshid=r1tcmg4jyvo5
32:30 <rustophone> go to bed hsn, have a nice looong sleep
32:33 <Ysjoelfir> I assume so, yes. IIRC one of those bottles was like... 50 NOK+-? Also shipping probably costs like double of what the drinks cost I think. But mrs. spouse was certain that she misses the taste that much :X
32:35 <hsn> rustophone: ship to pdi.engineering
33:09 <rustophone> and your home address?
33:24 <hsn> Its boss address
33:42 <Ysjoelfir> http://pdi.engineering/service/impressum <-- address
33:50 <rustophone> I think they are 40 each
34:07 <rustophone> 38 plus bottle
35:35 <rustophone> i know the address, i just have ro know that ot is where you want it shipped, lol
35:47 <Ysjoelfir> hey, even cheaper than I immagined! xD
36:11 <Ysjoelfir> yep, that would be exactly that :)
36:25 Quit: steve30000 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
36:37 <rustophone> okå da
38:06 <rustophone> ok, i am going home... have funners
38:14 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy :)
40:05 <electrohead> cheers and stuff
40:13 <electrohead> rustophone: yeah I know, 'bloatware'
40:14 Quit: rustophone ([email protected]) Quit: leaving
40:29 <electrohead> oh oh, he said that, nevermind
40:36 <electrohead> the nick colors blended it
43:40 <electrohead> "We'll be back soon. We are currently updating our shop and will be back really soon.
43:42 <electrohead> Thanks for your patience. "
43:46 <electrohead> you need to update that :P
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52:22 <electrohead> well that didn't work
52:28 <Ysjoelfir> you scared it
54:04 <Ampera> arch, don't piss off the op
54:04 <T3sl4> arch: looks fine i guess
54:04 <arch> going on copperclad. i luv copperclad :3 no more waiting 2 weeks to get shit from oshpark, or waiting 2 months to get shit from jlcpcb
54:04 <arch> and no extra waste
54:04 <arch> dont need fking 10 copies, smh. so much PCB waste
54:04 <T3sl4> i made another lm3914 readout today, in a couple of hours
54:04 <arch> but umm, the ferric chloride might be somewhat of an environmental hazard, but it's still much less than mass manufactured PCBs
54:04 <arch> T3sl4, on what, copperclad?
54:04 <T3sl4> ye
54:04 <arch> show me
54:04 <arch> :3
54:04 <T3sl4> it's in the car
54:04 <T3sl4> just looks like anything else i've carved
54:05 <arch> ohh, you don't etch, but carve them. i find that annoying. the dust get everywhere
54:05 <arch> how many lm3914s you got on that gadget?
54:05 <T3sl4> curlyques sweep up easily?
54:05 <T3sl4> just the one. it's a one digit voltmeter, just wanted a 10-15V range (0.5V steps) to check lead acid batterys
54:05 <arch> i mean gets everywhere in my fucking lungs. not good stuff man, that shit is bad for your lunghs
54:05 <T3sl4> it's no microcrystalline quartz
54:05 <arch> better safe than sorry :3
54:05 <T3sl4> the dust seems more irritating to me because of the partly cured/burned resin smell that gets into everything
54:05 <arch> i would just used a buncha opamps with resistor ladder
54:05 <T3sl4> i wet sand it, when i have more than a little bit to do, which helps with that
54:05 <T3sl4> arch: what do you think LM3914 is
54:05 <arch> oo. well, you're certainly not living up to your lab name. why're you using integrated chips? use transistors :p
54:05 <T3sl4> ironically, that's what you have to do nowadays, or preferably a MCU, as DIP 3914 is discontinued
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54:06 <Lord_of_nothing> Hi
57:24 <Nothing\> wewt i figured out how to make a pump in algodoo-
57:52 <Nothing\> i relaly should watch the treasure trove of tutorials videos on youtube for the game
04:29 <Nothing\> mmm my mom's making homemade chicken soup and it smells so tasty
05:32 <Nothing\> the best is if you make it using cream of wheat dumplings. You just mix cream of wheat with flour, roll it into balls or clumps and put it in the soup
06:41 <Nothing\> they're actually a great way to add some variation to ramen i find cuz they soak up every little bit of liquid so you just get these chicken broth flavored dumplings
18:39 <Halcyon> Morning all
24:10 * Ampera hugs and kisses Halcyon 
24:11 <Ampera> <3
24:16 <Halcyon> YAY! Hello
24:23 <Ysjoelfir> hi Halcyon
24:26 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
24:27 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
25:35 <Halcyon> I put a 1TB NVMe SSD in my hypervisor.... it's soooo fast
25:43 <Ampera> just 1TB?
25:51 <Ampera> is it at least PCIe 4?
26:02 <Halcyon> It's all I need. I have about 300 GB of VMs
26:07 <Halcyon> Yep
26:16 <Halcyon> My server only has x4 Gen 2 slots in it
26:22 <Ampera> ew
26:25 <Ampera> ew ew
26:25 <Halcyon> It's an old IBM x3650 M3
26:32 <Ampera> is it at least AMD?
26:40 <Halcyon> Pfft, no. This is a proper server
26:55 <Halcyon> 2x Xeon X5690's
26:56 <Ampera> not sure if you've seen EPYC recently, but it's sort of making Intel look like depression
27:02 <Ampera> ew, Westmere-EP
28:14 <Halcyon> Hey, what do you expect it's old?
28:27 <Ampera> I expect better
28:30 <Halcyon> My laptop runs about as fast (if not faster due to the newer bus) than that server.
28:35 <Halcyon> But still.
28:35 <Ampera> you're old and you're not that pathetic
28:58 <Halcyon> Oh it's not pathetic at all. It runs very nicely.
29:09 <Ampera> I own a Westmere-EP server, it's pathetic
29:18 <Halcyon> Then you're doing it wrong.
29:29 <Ampera> how should I be doing it
29:44 <Halcyon> I have 6 VMs running now, one of them is transcoding HD video in realtime and it's ticking along at about 20% CPU usage.
29:56 <Ampera> oh wow, HD
30:13 <Ampera> my phone can do 8K
30:39 <Halcyon> Yep, currently down to a 2 Mbps stream. Like I said, in real time. One of my mates is watching stuff from my server.
30:58 <Ampera> 2mbps?
31:02 <Halcyon> Those old Xeon's are actually quite capable CPUs. By no means fast by today's standards, but still decent.
31:14 <Halcyon> Yeh that's all his shitty internet can stream.
31:23 <Ampera> lol?
31:27 <Halcyon> Indeed
31:48 <Halcyon> I think he's just with a crappy provider on a crappy plan. He is very cheap.
31:51 <Ampera> my PC laps it probably around six or eightfold
32:07 <Ampera> though, you're dual CPU, so maybe cut that figure by half
32:27 <Halcyon> Yep, it very well might do. As I said, my laptop is faster, but it's still very capable.
32:53 <Halcyon> My NAS is even older, yet I can still get about 400-500 MB/sec transfer rates from the pool.
34:29 <Ampera> still, tis a shame you don't have real hardware to play with
34:44 <Halcyon> What you consider "real hardware", I consider toys for gamers.
35:08 <Halcyon> I love these old IBM servers
35:28 <Ampera> my CPU is faster than pretty much every single Intel CPU on the market multithreaded
35:41 <Halcyon> Yup, whoopdie doo.
35:59 <Ampera> makes work like compiling, transcoding, and compression a breeze
36:04 <Halcyon> Means nothing without context. It's like saying your car can do 0-100 in 2.5 seconds. So what?
36:25 <Ampera> 0-100 in 2.5 seconds is faster than any production car in the world
36:32 <Halcyon> Unless you're using that kind of capability (which I'm not), then why does it matter?
36:39 <Ampera> because I can use it to make people feel bad
36:43 <Ampera> and that's what counts
36:49 <Halcyon> That server also cost me a measly $300 with SAS drives included.
37:00 <Halcyon> But I don't feel bad? My machine is awesome.
37:21 <Ampera> it's over ten years old
37:33 <Halcyon> Yup, yet it's still awesome today.
37:37 <Ampera> there are people walking, talking, and using the internet younger than that thing
37:46 <Halcyon> True that
39:11 <Halcyon> I am updating my Windows 10 VM. What a fucking headache.
39:25 <Halcyon> It's been sitting here spinning it's dots for over 15 minutes
39:34 <Ampera> lol, use a real operating system, like FreeBSD
39:52 <Halcyon> I had to leave it overnight to even trigger the updates, because even said there were updates pending install, there was no "Install now" button.
40:05 <Halcyon> Oh I do, this is a VM I use for testing and uni.
49:02 <Nothing\> hey, is it normal that the polarity of the voltage output from my bench power supply is the reverse of what the colors indicate on the connectors?
49:29 <Halcyon> I would say no? I would always expect red to be positive
49:31 <Nothing\> ie, the red BNC gives a negative voltage and the black BNC gives positive voltage
49:41 <Nothing\> yeah that's what i figured
49:47 <Halcyon> What brand PSU is it?
49:53 <Nothing\> it is a....
49:57 <Nothing\> actually i'll get you the listing
50:56 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07GCGFDYZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
50:59 <Nothing\> there we are
51:23 <Nothing\> my only qualm with it is even using fine adjustment, you can't get the current down below ~60ma
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51:38 <Nothing\> and that little confusion with the output voltage
52:00 <Nothing\> arch, just in time. perhaps you couldu answer my question if you know anything about bench power supplies
52:05 <Halcyon> Ahh China special
52:10 <Nothing\> yuppers
52:16 <Halcyon> Well then, you get what you get :P
52:21 <Halcyon> Open it up and swap the leads around
52:23 <Nothing\> indeed
52:32 <Nothing\> yeah i guess i could do that, couldn't i
53:18 <Nothing\> i relaly should open it up anyways, i haven't done so since i got it.
53:29 <Halcyon> Well... don't turn it on... take it apart
53:41 <Halcyon> Watch out for those caps, they bite :P
53:49 <Nothing\> yeah i shorted the output
53:59 <Nothing\> but i dunno if that'll do aything to the internal caps
54:14 <Halcyon> It might not. Short the caps out themselves when you have it open.
54:18 <Nothing\> i should measure the ripple on this thing, too
54:25 <Halcyon> Then do what Clive does and test it with your finger :P
54:38 <Nothing\> both as an exercise for using oscilloscopes and just to characterize it
55:06 <Nothing\> cuz i'm still pretty new to scopes and as such, triggering still confuses me
55:16 <Nothing\> especially the various types of triggering the have
55:27 <Nothing\> i know i need to use ac coupling to measure power supply ripple
55:30 <Nothing\> i know that much
55:37 <arch> Nothing\, sure whats the question
55:41 <arch> or is it above
55:44 <arch> i just got a snack
55:59 <Halcyon> What kind of snack?
56:15 <Nothing\> arch: oh i was just wondering if it was normal for the red BNC on a bench power supply to provide negative voltage and the black BNC to provide positive voltage
56:20 <Nothing\> or if they just screwed mine up
56:46 <Halcyon> They might not have "screwed up", it might just be that way because they don't care.
57:13 <arch> it's not normal by convention. is it some cheapie you bought from china?
57:15 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to go mow the lawns. Back later.
57:22 <Nothing\> arch, yup
57:25 <Nothing\> here's the listing
57:27 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07GCGFDYZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
57:46 <Nothing\> i mean, it works well enough. but i was confused by that.
57:54 <arch> why tho...you can get a beefy as fuck linear PSU for <$80 off ebay. granted, it'll be used, and weigh 20 pounds, but quality is unbeatable
58:15 <arch> well, it's amazon, so you can easily return it
58:16 <Nothing\> my only problem is even with coarse adjustment, i can only get it down to a minimum of 60milliamps
58:25 <arch> that is not normal AT ALL
58:30 <arch> return that garbage
58:35 <Nothing\> arch: i was told SMPS was the way to go
59:02 <Nothing\> not rightly sure why
59:08 <Nothing\> or by whom
59:13 <arch> it is the way to go if you need a LOT of power output in a small package. are you space constrained?
59:24 <Nothing\> i don't need a lot of power
59:34 <Nothing\> honestly few of my projects use more than a watt or two
59:38 <Nothing\> if that
59:52 <arch> this is the exact PSU that i have. i bought two of these in the US for $80 total, free shipping included: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/GW-Instek-GPC-3020-Dual-Tracking-Power-Supply-5V-Fixed/264030275571
59:57 <Nothing\> like, it's mostly dicking around with CMOS logic
00:29 <Nothing\> argh
00:38 <Nothing\> yeah i've gotta talk to my mom about ebay
00:41 <arch> it weighs 20 pounds though, and the fan is loud. i fixed the fan issue by swapping in the 24V input to the fan with 15V.
00:44 <Nothing\> cuz they won't take my debit/credit card
00:50 <arch> why not?
00:56 <Nothing\> basically it's a debit card that you can use online as though it were a credit card
01:08 <Nothing\> i have no clue, it just gives a vague error
01:23 <Nothing\> so i was gonna see if my mom'll let me use her card and i just pay her back for whatever i order
01:27 <arch> ok wait, before you spend money...what are your requirements?
01:38 <Nothing\> since we're sorta doing the same thing on amazon
01:42 <arch> do you expect to mess with opamp circuitry?
01:50 <arch> if so, you want a dual supply
01:58 <arch> instead of single rail
02:08 <Nothing\> yeah i've got a dual supply
02:15 <Nothing\> and yeah that is a requirment
02:28 <Nothing\> except the cord the sent me only has 2 leads...
03:04 <Nothing\> frankly i doubt these cords could handle 10amps at 30v, whatever wattage that is
03:07 <Nothing\> 300 watts?
03:32 <Nothing\> they're just the thickness of a standard multimeter alligator clip probe
03:41 <arch> yeah, dont depend on chinesium crapware
04:02 <arch> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/GW-Instek-GPC-3020-Dual-Tracking-Power-Supply-5V-Fixed/264030275571?epid=1919387835 is the cheapest model i found on ebay canada
04:06 <Nothing\> maybe a tad thicker, but not by much
04:12 <arch> and i can personally vouch for its accuracy and durability
04:18 <arch> cuz i have two of those
04:25 <arch> and i also have the schematics too
04:40 <arch> so if it breaks in the future, easy enough to fix, because it uses all discrete components
05:38 <Nothing\> i think if i buy any analog equipment, my first thing'll be a scope
05:41 <arch> it doesn't have digital readout, but who cares? if you want to be extra accurate, just hook up a multimeter to finely set the vout
05:48 <Nothing\> cuz i've been DYING to make lissajouse figures
05:57 <arch> you can do those with digital scopes too...
05:58 <Nothing\> and good luck making those on an entry level DSO
06:14 <Nothing\> it just turned out as a bunch of formless dots
06:38 <arch> what scope do you have now?
07:42 <arch> also that toppower PSU is not dual supply. it says single supply in the title
08:16 <arch> and looks like they couldn't be assed to upload an actual picture. looks like a fucking computer render
08:34 <Nothing\> arch, 'twas this one
08:36 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00H1TES4C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
08:53 <Nothing\> it's not a bad scope. but again, chinesium means the software isn't the greatest
09:02 <Nothing\> but it's served my needs nicely
09:23 <arch> i got the digol1054z and unlocked to 100mhz with riglol. works pretty nicely.
09:32 <Nothing\> my only regret is getting the 200mhz version when i coulda got the 50mhz version and hacked it to unlock the 200mhz functionality
09:41 <arch> lol yea
10:13 <Nothing\> but i figured it's better i do that than risk bricking it or something, you never know what might go wrong
10:30 <Nothing\> i came across this nice looking siglent scope
10:36 <Nothing\> seemed like the perfect fit
10:59 <Nothing\> but then reading the comments, it turns out the majority of its functions are disabled and you have to pay extra to enable them
11:07 <Nothing\> wtf kind of business practice is that?
11:15 <arch> ransomware
11:28 <Nothing\> yeah, like it lists the features in the description
11:36 <Nothing\> but they're not ones you get unless you pay extra
12:49 <arch> i was aware of the ransomware practice from a long time ago, so i just search ' "<scope_name>" AND "hack" ' in google before buying one that is hackable
13:28 <Nothing\> but after using one of those $15 jyetech oscilloscopes you build from a kit (mine was pre-built for an extra $10) the difference was like night and day
13:48 <Nothing\> i mean the jyetech one has an option to set the time base to 10us
14:03 <Nothing\> but it won't trigger or register an events shorter than 100us
14:47 <arch> shoulda seen one of dave's videos on getting a scope. those kit scopes are toys, unfit for anyone over the age of 5
15:09 <Nothing\> i was trying to make a circuit to write data to a ROM chip and to enable programming mode i needed a pulse shorter than something like 100us
15:32 <Nothing\> so i spent a week troubleshooting it. wondering why i wasn't getting the proper timing i needed.
15:43 <Nothing\> then i find out it's the scope
15:57 <Nothing\> arch, not necessarily
16:02 <Nothing\> i mean it DID have some uses
16:12 <Nothing\> like just getting an idea of a waveform
16:17 <Nothing\> or measuring PWM
16:20 <Nothing\> or frequency
16:31 <arch> you can literally do the same shit as those crappy chinesium kit scopes....using an arduino leonardo...for $2 shipped from china...lol
16:32 <Nothing\> at least at audio and below
17:27 <arch> https://www.instructables.com/Oscilloscope-Arduino-Processing/
17:44 <Nothing\> one of these days i'd love to make a scope from an old CRT
18:22 <arch> i've never bought a genuine arduino board. beats paying $40 for something you can get a clone fro $5 from ebay
18:52 <Nothing\> and i'd also love to tear down an old analog scope. I've torn down TVs. But I think it'd be neat tearing down a CRT with those electric plates for beam deflection instead of coils
19:20 <Nothing\> yeah i've got a couple of $2 ch430 or 431 based arduinos
19:38 <Nothing\> only problem i had was finding drivers initially but after that it was fine
19:50 <arch> thats cuz u use windows. stop being a normie
19:54 <arch> use linux
20:00 <Nothing\> lol dude
20:14 <Nothing\> i used the arduino ide for pi
20:19 <Nothing\> it's fucking garbage
20:25 <Nothing\> hasn't been updated since 2017
20:46 <Nothing\> and i couldn't get it to incorporate any libraries into any sketches
21:00 <arch> i mean linux on your computer. not a fruity device
21:29 <Nothing\> like i'd even have a tab open with "aeoisatoehoe.h" and i'd get an error "can't find aeoisatoehoe.h"
21:39 <Nothing\> well then wtf is open in the other tab?
21:57 <Nothing\> stuff like that
22:13 <Nothing\> that reminds me though, i should install the ch431 drivers before i forget
23:34 <Nothing\> though i have an hd with said drivers on it literally within an arm's length. It'd just be a matter of installing it back into my computer.
23:55 <Nothing\> i just wasn't comfortable with it cuz it wasn't screwed down and was sitting on an angle
36:09 <Halcyon> Phew it's hot
40:23 <Halcyon> I love this modern take on the Floppotron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzwMjOl8Iyo
08:26 <Nothing\> haha me too Halcyon
08:37 <Nothing\> i was just watching those videos the other day and showing them to my mom
08:49 <Nothing\> she didn't believe it was real
09:40 <Nothing\> have you seen this, Halcyon?
09:41 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q&ab_channel=s7RanGE
10:21 <Nothing\> i remember waaaay back in the day there was a CGI animation showing something like this and i guess the guy was inspired to make something similar IRL
11:31 <Nothing\> all i can think watching it is how it's a shame it's made of wood and thus will warp and rot over time and not last very long in terms of historical time
11:56 <Nothing\> and how he needs to make a second model out of steel or stone
16:45 <Nothing\> that and how it musta taken the guy forever to make that thing and get everything all in the right position and the right distance apart that it works as it should
17:00 <arch> i'll see you weirdos later. gonna play some games
17:10 <Nothing\> yeah i prolly should, too
17:10 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
17:26 <Nothing\> instead of these fucknig idle games
17:43 <Nothing\> they're worse than heroin in terms of addiction
17:47 <Halcyon> I have Nothing\
18:03 <Nothing\> do what now?
18:09 <Halcyon> Seen Wintergaten
18:15 <Nothing\> ah
18:22 <Nothing\> you mean "i have, nothing"
18:33 <Halcyon> Nope
18:37 <Nothing\> i honest to god thought you were saying you have me
18:39 <Halcyon> Because I capitalised your name :P
18:41 <Nothing\> lol
19:01 <Halcyon> Hahaha
19:03 <Halcyon> Well...
19:05 <Halcyon> :P
19:19 <Nothing\> well i screwed up, i meant "you mean 'I have, Nothing\"
19:26 <Halcyon> Sure, if you like
19:34 <Nothing\> lol the grammar nazi using improper grammar
19:42 <Halcyon> I think I'm going to make this for dinner: https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/chow-mein-sharing-salad-recipe/ds943mmg?r=quickeasy/mfQ7EL9o
19:45 <Nothing\> how meta
19:48 <Halcyon> I feel like something light and summmery
20:20 <Nothing\> that looks pretty tasty. and you can't go wrong with chow mein
21:02 <Halcyon> Super simple and easy to make. Might go up the road and get some Portuguese chicken for it, instead of just using plain chicken
21:05 <Halcyon> Could be interesting
21:15 <Nothing\> i had hame made chicken soup (german style) that my mom made with these dumplings that are made from cream of wheat mixed with egg
21:24 <Halcyon> Yum
21:33 <Nothing\> you sorta form them into balls with a fork and plop em in the soup
21:43 <Halcyon> Heh.. balls
21:43 <Nothing\> then they soak up the juices and puff up
21:57 <Nothing\> yeah they're soooo good man
22:15 <Halcyon> Speaking of juicy balls
22:22 <Nothing\> my great aunt, God rest her soul, used to mak ethe best chicken soup with those dumplings in it
22:24 <Halcyon> I love those dumplings with the kind of soup inside
23:02 <Nothing\> she called them "nookahlah" or something. I know i'm butchering the spelling.
23:22 <Nothing\> my Mum might be able to help when she wakes up from her nap
23:42 <Nothing\> that's at least how she pronounced it.
23:49 <Halcyon> These ones: https://www.chefsteps.com/activities/how-to-make-shanghai-soup-dumplings-with-andrea-nguyen
24:11 <Nothing\> asian dumplings are good, too
24:13 <Halcyon> I've always wondered how they get the soup inside
24:21 <Nothing\> but ver ydifferent from european dumplings
24:39 <Nothing\> i just had these other german dumplings other day my Mum made
24:50 <Nothing\> it's just bread, flour and egg
24:57 <Nothing\> you form them into balls and boil em
25:03 <Nothing\> then eat them with gravy on top
25:17 <Halcyon> Nom
25:24 <Halcyon> I'm getting hungry, I should go get some lunch
25:39 <Nothing\> oh yeah dude, i used to eat like half a dozen in one sitting when i was a kid
25:47 <Nothing\> just plain, didn't even bother with the gravy
26:13 <Halcyon> :)
26:20 <Nothing\> or if you have old noodles, a good way to give them life again is to fry them up with some eggs and maybe some light spices
26:34 <Nothing\> like, leftover noodles
26:48 <Halcyon> No such thing as leftover noodles :P
26:56 <Halcyon> Anyway I'll be back later
27:02 <Nothing\> heh i've never been a huge fan
28:04 <Nothing\> like i'm talking about semolina type noodles
28:11 <Nothing\> like italian style
28:24 <Nothing\> but it also works with asian noodles
32:54 <Nothing\> i think my video card driver just reset itself
33:12 <Nothing\> my screen went black for a second, then back to normal like nothing happened.
33:19 <Nothing\> sound about right?
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44:56 <rust_collector> hoiooo?
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16:17 <rust_collector> I have to say daves live stream is pretty enjoyable now that his mic quit
17:15 <rust_collector> he is talking and talking, and scrolling the comments saying "no audio" away
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35:39 <Nothing\> welp, i'm feeling better now
35:53 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
36:00 <Nothing\> talked things out with my mum. then watched some episodes of cops with her.
36:05 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
36:11 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
36:18 <Nothing\> i'm doing well
36:36 <Nothing\> though my meds are making my stomach feel a little burny
36:46 <Ampera> I had a lovely headache and some nausea right after work
37:07 <Ampera> I seem to be getting more and more of that in the evening, but I'll eventually fall asleep and it'll fix itself
37:11 <Nothing\> and i just realized i can't drink anything to dilute it cuz i ust put cream on my lips
37:19 <Ampera> straw
37:26 <Nothing\> you ever get those sorta tears in the corners of your mouth?
37:32 <Ampera> no
37:40 <Nothing\> that sounds like it was a migraine
37:59 <Nothing\> nausea is usually an indicator of a migraine with a headache
38:14 <Nothing\> or abnormalities in cebebrospinal fluid pressure
38:17 <Ampera> Not that I've ever known what a migrane feels like, but I've known of them to be far more painful than just a casual headache
38:26 <Nothing\> such as after a spinal tap procedure
38:34 <Ampera> anyways, I took naproxen and paracetamol, napped, and now I'm better
38:44 <Nothing\> that's great to hear
38:49 <Ampera> well I haven't had a spinal tap in the last couple days so
39:02 <Nothing\> i'm lucky, i don't get headaches often and when i do they're relatively mild and easiy to manager
39:17 <Ampera> It's most likely stress related, most of my aches and pains are
39:19 <Nothing\> and i've never had a spinal tap
39:29 <Ampera> I've been under near constent high stress for the past couple years with few breaks
39:36 <Ampera> *constant
39:58 <Ampera> it tends to get worse every day, until I keep sorta having that stress feel normal
40:17 <Nothing\> actually i just read an article in the news the other day about a woman who had a 5cm (2in and a bit) long needle found in her spine from when she had an epidural 16 years ago
40:51 <Nothing\> it's amazing people can have shit like that stuck in such sensitive areas for so long
41:01 <Ampera> what do you have a rod up your spine?
41:02 <Nothing\> aww dude
41:06 <Nothing\> you need some down time
41:10 <Nothing\> some Ampera time
41:10 <Ampera> already had it
41:29 <Ampera> took a week off recently, was the single most meaningless vacation I've ever had
41:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, she had an epidural during childbirth
41:45 <Nothing\> which involves putting a needle into the spine
42:05 <Nothing\> said needle apparently broke off and nobody noticed somehow
42:41 <Nothing\> one thing's for sure, procedures like epidurals and spinal taps give me the horribles
43:16 <Nothing\> or anything to do with bone marrow. Biopsy, donation, that sorta stuff
43:55 <Nothing\> or intraosseous administration of medication, but unless i'm a toddler i don't have to worry about that
43:57 <Ampera> I sometimes dream of people impaling me with long sharp things
44:17 <Nothing\> where they basically turn your shin into a reverse maple syrup tapping
44:40 <Nothing\> they drive a needle into the bone marrow and infuse medication through that
44:54 <Nothing\> that's an odd thing to dream about
45:10 <Ampera> it's among my more normal dreams
45:30 <Nothing\> when i used to dream, i'd always dream about poeple, and places from my distant past. especially my childhood or sometimes my teenager years.
45:41 <Ampera> well, more fantasize
45:41 <Nothing\> but the places would be different in specific ways
45:46 <Ampera> that's what I meant by dream
45:53 <Nothing\> and always in the same way every time i dreamnt of them
46:03 <Ampera> I don't usually remember my dreams
46:13 <Ampera> fortunately when I do, they tend to be quite cool nightmares
46:17 <Ampera> I wish I had more of them
46:24 <Nothing\> it's like my mind's built up this entire alternate reality. at least in terms of the landscape
47:35 <Nothing\> like just down the street is this run down desert looking area with an equally run down bar/restaurant as the sort of central hub of the town
47:47 <Nothing\> and a derelict church just up the road
48:02 <Nothing\> nothing of which exists irl
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48:42 <Ampera> TWC sucks! Get a real ISP!
48:51 <Nothing\> it's weird though cuz when i did dream, i used to have a lot of dreams about the last 3 places i've lived
49:04 <Nothing\> the weather channel?
49:14 <Ampera> haha, canadians
49:15 <Ampera> :P
49:29 <Dodo> Howdy y’all!
49:33 <Nothing\> up here it's called the weather network
49:34 <Ampera> good morning
49:40 <Nothing\> and it's a completely different channel
49:41 <Ampera> Nothing\, not talking about the weather channel
49:44 <Ampera> talking about the ISP
49:46 <Nothing\> oh
49:52 <Nothing\> oh, yeah i know
49:59 <Ampera> Dodo's hostname is *.rr.com, which is TWC
49:59 <Nothing\> i was just bullshitting
50:12 <Nothing\> i'd have thought that would be roadrunner
50:28 <Ampera> it is
50:39 <Dodo> You were talking to me about the isp ?
50:46 <Nothing\> ah
50:47 <Ampera> yes just joking around
50:54 <Ampera> Dodo, you have Spectrum, right?
51:01 <Dodo> Yep
51:15 <Ampera> probably not too far off from New York then
51:21 <Dodo> It’s first time for me joining this chat :)
51:21 <Ampera> your area would have used to be TWC
51:25 <Ampera> welcome then
51:27 <Nothing\> lol it's funny, back on the "recreational drug harm reduction" themed server i went to
51:37 <Nothing\> on the main channel i used to fuck with people
51:40 <Dodo> im about 4 hrs flight from nyc :)
51:56 <Nothing\> i'd get their isp and somitems city from their hostmask
52:00 <Ampera> Dodo, that's quite far away
52:06 <Nothing\> and then tell them i hacked them
52:17 <Dodo> Hahaha you’re funny
52:21 <Nothing\> and they'd get all paranoid, being on drugs and all
52:26 <Nothing\> and go to the admins
52:45 <Ampera> It's about a one hour flight to Chicago or Detroit from where I live
53:00 <Nothing\> the best was the ones who would put their real name in mIRC where it says "Real Name: "
53:00 <Ampera> so a four hour flight would have to be something like Washington or California
53:20 <Dodo> Cali should be 5-6 hrs if I remember correctly
53:30 <Ampera> would depend on what part
53:42 <Dodo> true.
53:50 <Dodo> I got a question for y’all.
53:53 <Ampera> oh I got it
53:56 <Ampera> you're texan
54:05 <Dodo> hehe
54:07 <Ampera> that's right, TWC used to operate down there
55:09 <Dodo> Do y’all know where I could get some custom (simple) micro usb cables manufacture by any chance ?
55:20 <Ampera> how custom do you mean
55:32 <Ampera> digikey probably has a large selection of different lengths and such
55:43 <Ampera> or Mouser if you're closer to them
55:43 <Dodo> a 17.4K res between pins 4 and 5
56:04 <Ampera> I presume you'd mean at some sort of scale
56:07 <Ampera> not just a bag of them
56:45 <Ampera> Someone over at the forums would probably know, someone here might, but you're waiting either way, and there are more people who know about that stuff on the forums
57:04 <Dodo> Nah just a bag :) I have a dashcam that won’t charge with any USB cable unless it’s from
57:11 <Dodo> The OEM.
57:25 <Ampera> just one dashcam?
57:30 <Dodo> looks like a simple resistor between those pins will make it work.
57:46 <Ampera> presumably you could make something like that yourself easily enough
58:27 <Dodo> Ive recommended it to friends and family and now they can’t charge the stupid thing unless they pay $20-30 for a stupid micro cable.
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58:51 <Ampera> Still, unless you want a lot of cable, I doubt you could get someone to make you some
59:01 <Dodo> so I’d rather make some nice ones and give them to family and friends rather than give the money to the OEM of the dash cam
59:04 <Ampera> manufacturing never makes sense until you start asking for a lot
59:33 <Ampera> have you thought about just wiring a resistor directly into the dashcams?
00:39 <Dodo> I can hack the cables myself without a problem it’s just they won’t look nice.
01:15 <Ampera> the problem is unless you can just happen to find someone selling those sorts of cables, you're going to spend an insane amount of money for way more cable than you need
01:30 <Ampera> or a large amount of money paying someone who knows what they're doing\
02:06 <Ampera> T3sl4 or Ysjoelfir could probably make you cables no problem, but they'd probably also charge you way more than you're willing to pay.
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04:04 <Nothing\> YOU MAY TAKE AWAY MUH MANATEE
04:21 <Nothing\> BUT YOU WON'T TAKE AWAY MUH DIG-NIT-TEE
04:35 * Ampera smackerels Nothing\ with a whackerel mackerel
05:07 <Nothing\> there were mackarel skies yesterday
05:21 <Dodo> Hmm. Was thinking that there might be some place in China that I can just place an order for said cables. I get pcbs fab in China for $1-5
05:24 <Nothing\> so i was able to predict the sudden change in weather
05:43 <Dodo> Depending on the layer count and size
05:48 <Nothing\> Dodo, sorry if you're repeating yourself. But what sort of cables?
05:58 <Ampera> Dodo, that's because there are quite expensive machines designed solely for the purpose of manufacturing custom PCBs incredibly cheaply and at scale
06:08 <Nothing\> i doubt you'd get infor like that in an aliexpress listing
06:18 <Ampera> Nothing\, Micro USB cables with a special resistor on two pins
06:49 <Ampera> Dodo, unless you can just so happen to find a place that does small order of cables, you'll likely have to order thousands of them
07:10 <Nothing\> if anybody's interested, here's a book listing 50 famous mathematical curves and their formulae
07:12 <Ampera> and if such a place were to exist, the EEVBlog forums would be your place to ask
07:14 <Nothing\> https://elepa.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/fifty-famous-curves.pdf
07:25 <Nothing\> https://www.desmos.com/calculator
07:26 <Ampera> Nothing\, can they give me famous curves?
07:30 <Nothing\> and a tool to play around with them
07:47 <Nothing\> Ampera, i dunno if you'd want these kinda curves
07:55 <Dodo> Side question. How do you tag someone in a message on here ?
08:07 <Ampera> Nothing\, curves look good
08:09 <Ampera> can you have them
08:12 <Nothing\> Dodo, just say their name
08:12 <Ampera> Dodo, by saying their name
08:34 <Ampera> Nothing\, Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\
08:36 <Ampera> Nothing\, Nothing\ Nothing\ Nothing\ N
08:36 <Dodo> Nothing\ that’s it ?
08:38 <Ampera> Nothing\, Nothing\ Nothing\
08:41 <Ampera> yes
08:42 <Dodo> welll look at that hahaha
08:52 <Dodo> thanks y’all :)
09:01 <Ampera> lots of clients will autocomplete if you type part of the name and hit tab
09:08 <Ampera> not sure if kiwi does it
09:23 <Nothing\> Dodo, there's an option called highlighting where an irc client will optionally highlight and send a sound to them when certain words (usually their name, among others) are said
09:47 <Nothing\> and by highlight i mean it'll just show it in a different font color
10:10 <Nothing\> usually chosen by the client by default, or the user otherwise
11:17 <Nothing\> man it's chilly in here
11:23 <Ampera> Nothing\, sounds hot
11:23 <Nothing\> i think the summerly weather's over
11:35 <Nothing\> it was fucking 25c here yesterday dude
11:42 <Ampera> I wish it was chilly in here, it's probably 73 in here
11:46 <Dodo> Weather is pmsing over here.
11:47 <Nothing\> 25c, in canada, in november
11:47 <Ampera> EEVBlog conver 25C to F
11:51 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 25C to F
11:51 <EEVBlog> The result is: 77 f
11:58 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 73F to C
11:58 <EEVBlog> The result is: 22.778 c
12:04 <Ampera> meh
12:04 <Nothing\> aye, it was beautiful
12:14 <Ampera> I much rather 50F
12:18 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 50F to C
12:19 <EEVBlog> The result is: 10 c
12:22 <Dodo> False .... F = Freedom units.
12:38 <Nothing\> btw, easy conversion for celsius to farenheit
12:54 <Ampera> the easiest conversion is by asking the bot
12:57 <Nothing\> f=C*1.8+32
13:10 <Ampera> oh yes I'll do that in my head whenever I wanna know
13:17 <Nothing\> well the bot can't be there you your whole life can it?
13:21 <Ampera> thanks Nothing\ you solved temperature
13:40 <Ampera> now I just need to deepthroat a curta until I can sneeze numbers hard enough to make that useful
13:45 <Dodo> next up on the list will be fire
13:45 <Nothing\> Ampera, just swap out 1.8 for 18 and divide the final answer by 10
14:14 * Ampera swaps out Nothing\'s eyes for walnuts, divides the final skull into 10 equal parts
14:29 <Dodo> Or ask Siri or Google to convert for you.
14:42 <Ampera> siri is dumb, google is dumb
14:45 <Nothing\> this calculator i bought for my phone has a conversion function on it. and for temperature it has a lot of weird units i've never heard of before.
14:55 <Ampera> you kids and your malevolent AIs
15:12 <Ampera> why would anyone buy a calculator for their phone when you can just use the HP Prime emulator
15:17 <Ampera> fo fwee
15:33 <Dodo> iPhones ?
15:43 <Ampera> iPhones are dumb
15:52 <Ampera> why would you buy a computer that doesn't let you run whatever you want on it
16:50 <Dodo> Easy. There are people out there that are still technically challenged.
17:14 <Ampera> so you're saying people who buy iPhones /are/ stupid
17:26 <Ampera> makes sense
17:38 <Dodo> At least 90%
17:39 <Nothing\> there are: degrees celsius, of course, kelvins (as it put it, didn't kelvin was a noun) farenheit of course, then things get weird with degrees rankine, degrees newton, degrees reaumur, degrees romer and degrees delisle
17:54 <Ampera> Nothing\, that's it?
18:00 <Ampera> there's far more temperature scales than just that in the world
18:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, technically theer could be infinite temperature scales
18:25 <Nothing\> you can base a scale on anything
18:30 <Ampera> no there can't
18:35 <Ampera> there is an upper and lower limit to temperature
18:41 <Nothing\> and choose to make it linear or logarithmic
18:52 <Ampera> that's fine, but you're measuring a finite quantity
18:58 <Dodo> I’m clocking out for tonight y’all. Thanks for the input on the cable topic. Y’all are awesome.
19:05 <Ampera> Have a good night, Dodo
19:08 <Ampera> come back some time
19:33 <Nothing\> Ampera, you can define your degrees based on any value you want. not necessarily just the boiling and melting points of water
19:43 <Dodo> will do. Maybe with a vpn on so you won’t know where I’m at next time haha
19:48 <Ampera> I suppose you can have infinite precision
19:49 <Nothing\> those are just convenient pseudo-constantls
19:55 <Ampera> Dodo, sorry if I creeped you out
20:02 <Ampera> hostnames are public to most people
20:15 <Ampera> I don't have your IP, so it's all just a guess
20:31 <Ampera> also y'all gives it away anyways :P
20:48 <Nothing\> Ampera, i could make a temperutare scale where 0 is the temperature of my balls and 100 is the temperature of your balls
20:59 <Nothing\> assuming your balls produce more heat, being younger than mine
21:02 <Ampera> however, if you're dealing with integers or fixed precision, then you can only have a finite, calculatable number of temperature scales
21:09 <Nothing\> not as much wear and tear due to entropy
21:25 <Nothing\> Ampera, you make a good point
21:28 <Ampera> measured by the possible number of arrangements those numbers could have
21:37 <Dodo> Nah. Went to sb once with some friends and to freak them out, tried to access the router. To no surprise user name and pass were default so I showed them their pc info on mine. Scared them a little :)
21:45 <Ampera> though...
21:48 <Nothing\> i suppose i was being a tad hyperbolic in my statement
21:49 <Ampera> no I make a terrible point
21:56 <Ampera> you could fix the lower and upper bounds wherever you want numerically
22:02 <Ampera> so you can have an infinite nubmer of scales
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22:26 <Nothing\> man, that guy's name SUCKS for autocomplete
22:51 <Ampera> how so
22:56 <Ampera> do+tab
23:10 <Nothing\> and yeand it brings up several other peoples' names before his
23:26 <Nothing\> or maybe that was just cuz i tried after he left. i don't remember now.
23:43 <Nothing\> sneaohesitnhaoseinaoesindaesiao
23:45 <Ampera> do can only ever autocomplete to dodo
23:47 <Nothing\> i really hate peeing
23:56 <Ampera> I wish someone would pee on me
24:08 <Nothing\> call R kelly
24:12 <Ampera> who
24:13 <Nothing\> he's into that
24:15 <Ampera> no nevermind
24:19 <Ampera> I don't want to know
24:44 <Nothing\> he got in trouble for peeing on a 15 year old girl
25:20 <Nothing\> if that' doesn't scream "i'm special" i dunno what does
25:28 <Nothing\> in the way that only celebrities can
25:34 <Ampera> well then what would that make me
25:38 <Ampera> wanting to be peed on
27:30 <Nothing\> a peedophile?
27:40 <Nothing\> sorry, i couldn't help myself
28:16 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
28:29 <Ampera> I just want someone to love me, that's the most fucked up of my fetishes :P
28:36 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
28:43 <Nothing\> well i can't say i love you like that
28:59 <Nothing\> but what i can say without a doubt, whole heartedly and sincerely
29:04 <Ampera> PENIS
29:31 <Ampera> I do know exactly why nobody loves me
29:40 <Ampera> and that has something to do with it
29:51 <Ampera> I'm just a worthless individual :P
30:59 <Nothing\> is that i care about you a great deal. You're a wondeful person who has lots to offer the world and society. But unfortunately you get a shit deal between your sexuality and how all of those people tried to take advantage of you to joir their fucked up cults or whatever it was they tere trying to do
31:32 <Ampera> lies
31:32 <Ampera> slander
31:34 <Ampera> fabrications
32:10 <Nothing\> and you're strong as fuck for not only being able to resist all of that. But for coming out of it in as good a shape as you did. I mean you still retain the ability to think for yourself. Which is amazing given how many people tried to fuckd with you like that
32:12 <Ampera> I am a cursed individual, doomed to eternal pain and suffering. I am being punished for simply existing
32:39 <Nothing\> it's all abotu percfeption
32:47 <Nothing\> well, maybe not ALL obut it
32:54 <Ampera> lol I think for myself because I don't have anyone to talk to nevermind think for me
32:57 <Nothing\> but it plays an important role
33:07 <Ampera> I perceive pain
33:17 <Nothing\> it's unfortunate that you see yourself in such lowly terms
33:20 <Ampera> consistent, eternal pain
33:36 <Nothing\> but i understand that feeling
33:44 <Nothing\> maybe not what's causing it in you
33:55 <Nothing\> but the feeling itself, i've experienced a lot
33:59 <Ampera> it's possibly why, to a degree, I fantasize about physical pain, as it would give me a break from my mental pain
34:04 <Nothing\> and the desperation that cames with it
34:22 <Nothing\> that's what i thought
34:24 <Nothing\> but it doesn't
34:25 <Ampera> it's the feeling that I am slowly losing my mind
34:32 <Ampera> Nothing\, true, but the fantasy does
34:35 <Ampera> and that's what counts
34:41 * Halcyon licks Ampera
34:43 <Nothing\> it just adds more negativitiy to a situation that's already teeming with negativity
34:49 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon how are you doing
34:53 <Halcyon> I had a nap
34:54 <Nothing\> and ultimately, nothing is different
34:57 <Halcyon> So did Jerry
34:58 <Nothing\> nothing changes
35:11 <Ampera> Nothing\, not really, I dream of escapes into worlds and people that I'd rather be in.
35:38 <Nothing\> what's keeping you from turning these thoughts into a reality?
35:41 <Ampera> I have no drugs, no alcohol, no vices in life, besides my imagination, and the depression that comes from never being able to truly exist in it
35:48 <Ampera> hahahahaha
35:55 <Ampera> I think you misunderstand what I mean by "escapes"
36:04 <Nothing\> apperntly so
36:12 <Nothing\> i assumed some sort of day dream
36:13 <Ampera> a lack of blunt stupidity prevents me from injuring myself
36:28 <Ampera> but as for my more sane desires, the laws of physics prevent me from enjoying those
36:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, no, your intelligence on a subconscious level prevents you from injuring yourself
36:57 <Ampera> my most common fantasy is wishing I was someone else, you know what sort of someone, and there's no amount of will I can put into the world to result in that change
37:07 <Nothing\> and least that's what i think
37:16 <Ampera> Nothing\, isn't that what I just said
37:39 <Nothing\> Ampera, i used to imagine that i either was god, or had god-like powers
37:48 <Ampera> oh I imagine that's what would happen if I died
38:02 <Nothing\> it'd often get complicated and out of hand, but not like you'd think
38:02 <Ampera> if I died, I'd unlock godmode and all my problems would go away
38:16 <Ampera> it's right next to the thoughts that maybe if I wish hard enough my life will just get better
39:09 <Nothing\> "okay so i wanna make my house bigger. So where do I put my neighbours. Okay now i've got them way the hell away from public transportation" then i have to consider other implications
39:28 <Ampera> haha
39:47 <Nothing\> it's like chaes. you change one tiny thing and it cause a huge line of changes with ultimately unpredictable results
40:09 <Nothing\> which is basically life in a nutshell, anyways
40:12 <Ampera> The main reason I look at porn, which I don't often tell people, is it's one of the easiest way for me to look at people I wish I could be.
40:33 <Ampera> which is kinda fucked in the head when I put it like that, I don't mean a porn actor, I more mean being female
41:12 <Ampera> my imagination is strong enough it lets me escape into their world for just a brief moment, before realizing that I can't escape my own
41:46 <Nothing\> Ampera, honestly, everybody has problems. and regardless of how severe or mild they seem to you, to the person dealing with them they are just as stressful as most (but not all) problems you have to deal with
42:05 <Ampera> oh of course
42:17 <Ampera> never have i intended to say other people do not have problems
42:17 <Nothing\> tl:dr everybody's miserable in their own way because everybody has their own problems they react uniquely to
42:30 <Ampera> it's just that I'd rather deal with someone else's for a while
42:42 <Ampera> I'm sick and damn tired of mine
42:56 <Ampera> and ultimately, a change of body would solve my most unsolvable problem imaginable
43:28 <Nothing\> my point is, that's an important realization that i made when i found myself yearning to live somebody else's life
43:42 <Ampera> we live in a fucked up world full of people who suffer eternally. I often imagine how many people are feeling mortal, horrific pain, being stabbed, tortured, beaten, raped, abused, murdered, disemboweled
44:04 <Nothing\> Ampera, are you familiar with buddhism at all?
44:06 <Ampera> I imagine brutal ways to die and imagine if anyone has ever known how it would feel to die that way
44:11 <Ampera> Nothing\, life is suffering?
44:18 <Nothing\> not life
44:20 <Nothing\> existence
44:24 <Ampera> nice
44:30 <Nothing\> meaning the cycle of life and reincarnation
44:33 <Ampera> maybe I'll become enlightened and start a religion :P
44:43 <Nothing\> but
44:47 <Nothing\> there's more to it
44:55 <Ampera> there's always more suffering
45:11 <Nothing\> it goes on to say that there os a way to relieve that suffering through the 8-fold path
45:35 <Nothing\> Ampera, nothing is permanent. not even suffering.
45:41 <Nothing\> it may last a long while
45:44 <Ampera> death is quite permanent
45:48 <Nothing\> but it's not permanent
45:55 <Nothing\> Ampera, touche
46:21 <Nothing\> alright i think i'm gonna wath some superjail
46:32 <Ampera> I always laugh at people who tell the suicidal that killing themselves is a permanent solution for a temporary problem
46:35 <Nothing\> my mind is ready for a good rogering now
46:40 <Ampera> which is just stupid to me
46:46 <Ampera> of course it is, that's why I'd kill myself
46:59 <Ampera> so I don't have to deal with the days and days of suffering it'd take to not suffer anymore
47:01 <Nothing\> i never got why truly suicidal people would say anything about it
47:02 <Ampera> when I can stop it right now
47:14 <Ampera> If I was truly suicidal I would be dead right now.
47:22 <Nothing\> when i was genuinely suidal, i kept it to myself and planned it out for weeks ahead of time
47:27 <Ampera> unfortunately I'm too smart to kill myself
47:45 <Ampera> I'd plan out nothing, I have a house full of knifes, I'd take the quick way out
47:51 <Nothing\> i was yonug and imptetuous
48:15 <Nothing\> took 90 tylenol 1s which has a small asmount of codeine in them
48:22 <Nothing\> the idea was to overdose on it
48:38 <Nothing\> little did i know, codeine has what's called a metabolic-ceiling
49:09 <Ampera> If I wanted to overdose myself to death why stop at tylenol
49:15 <Nothing\> see, in it's natural form, codeine is abosutely benign in the brain. does nothing.
49:24 <Ampera> I'll down the bottle of naproxen, aspirin, diphenhydramine
49:35 <Ampera> *I'd
49:55 <Ampera> maybe I'll get some milk and make it a cereal
49:57 <Ampera> *I'd
50:25 <Ampera> honestly, if I could have only one simple wish, I wish I stopped doing exactly what I'm doing right now
50:28 <Ampera> blowing up at my friends
50:37 <Nothing\> in order to be activated it has to undergo what's called first-pass metabolism which is where the drug is absorbbed from the stomach and into the liver where it undergoes metabolism that cleaves off a specific group from the molecule
50:49 <Nothing\> which turns it into morphine, which we all know IS active
51:07 <Ampera> that's what I hate the most about my disease, it doesn't just stop at me, it causes me to hurt and harass others
51:19 <Nothing\> but the catch-22 to this is your liver acn only do this so fast at a given time, irght
52:00 <Nothing\> so there's a metabolic ceilaing where your liver will stop converting the codeine into morphine
52:49 <Nothing\> but they gave me oral usp grade activated charcoal for the tylenol
53:26 <Nothing\> and after a day in the hospital i was good, thank heavens
53:42 <Ampera> The only thing I'd hate more than killing myself is failing to kill myself.
53:56 <Nothing\> cuz that's one of the worst ways to go in terms of pain and being long and drown out
54:08 <Nothing\> oh i know, right?
54:34 <Ampera> If I really wanted to kill myself it would be over the pain of slicing my neck open.
54:53 <Ampera> It's something I believe I'd have to want that much, and I don't think I'll ever be in that position
54:56 <Nothing\> imagine failing only to find you're in a vegetative state
55:07 <Ampera> I'm in a vegetative state right now
55:17 <Nothing\> you know what i mean
55:19 <Ampera> I'm a plant that rants on IRC :P
55:32 <Nothing\> like cherry thai-bo
55:46 <Ampera> I've heard stories of people blowing their faces off missing while trying to kill themselves
55:49 <Ampera> and then calling 911 after
56:07 <Ampera> honestly after that I'd take the shotgun and go again
56:47 <Nothing\> there's an actual manual that was published on how best to commit suicide for people who are terminal
57:24 <Nothing\> not alt.suicide.holidays, it was an actual book
57:56 <Nothing\> i read about half of it. ultimately the best way he said was a bag and a helium tank
59:03 <Nothing\> cuz the way our measure oygen deprivation is by how much CO2 is in it
59:15 <Ampera> yeah because it's totally conspicious just buying a helium tank
59:27 <Nothing\> and after a while, it starts turning acidic in the blood. so dealth by CO2 is agony
00:29 <Nothing\> Ampera, it's not. lots of poeple buy them for birthday parties, businesses, dollar stares. stuff likethat.
00:40 <Nothing\> there's nothing wrong with buying a tank of helium.
00:48 <Nothing\> and nothing suspicious
01:23 <Ampera> Nothing\, unless you live with people
01:42 <Ampera> who might be wondering why that depressed guy is buying a tank of a general asphyxiant all of a sudden
01:48 <Nothing\> but anyways, when you asphyxiate yourself with helium, you don't get the build-up of CO2 that causes all of that pain and burnirn
02:09 <Nothing\> same thing with nitrogen
02:30 <Nothing\> they've used that as a human euthenasia gas
02:58 <Nothing\> Ampera, indeed THAT would set off red flags
03:34 <Ampera> one of my greatest fears is someone calling the cops on me thinking I'm about to kill myself and me having to deal with the fucking shitshow of therapists and bullshit I know I would be forced into
03:44 <Nothing\> but this book is meant for people giving serious consideration to euthenasia due to medical conditions and chronic pain
03:59 <Nothing\> these aren't decisisions that are made lightly
04:14 <Nothing\> and it's not some bullshit meant to profit off of the helpsess
06:13 <Nothing\> this guy genuinely tries to help these people find an appropriate and painless way to commit euthanasia if they're unable to do so through a doctor. So I'm sure they've probably talked at great length with their family about it
07:30 <Ampera> this was a conversation and a half
07:45 <Ampera> I wish I could stop having conversations like this, or at least have it with someone with who it meant something
08:09 <Ampera> I used to be able to get so much progress and comfort out of talking about my problems, but now it's just hurting me and hurting everyone who has to hear it
08:34 <Ampera> It's the strangest sort of pain, I feel it nowhere, but it's there, and it's intense.
08:53 <Ampera> It hurts, a lot, but there's no part of my body it hurts in, it's completely detached
09:24 <Ampera> It almost feels like being trapped in a tight space, but that tight space is your entire life
09:32 <Ampera> as if your very body is trapping your own mind
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00:41 <Kuschelpony> good morning
12:11 <Halcyon> Hey Kuschelpony
12:17 * Halcyon hugs Ampera
12:29 <Kuschelpony> Hello Halcyon
13:03 <Nothing\> ahaha
13:21 <Nothing\> i finally broke the curse of those wretched idle rpg games
13:33 <Nothing\> ie managed to close them
14:03 <Halcyon> Hooray!
14:22 <Halcyon> I'm finally getting around to organising all the media in my downloads folder that has been sitting there for many months.
14:39 <Halcyon> Organising The Simpsons is hard work
14:44 <Nothing\> awesome. that's always a good feeling
14:55 <Nothing\> hy simpsons came organize
15:36 <Nothing\> but a huge pack, but there was one was seas 1
15:53 <Halcyon> And re-doing other peoples' stupid naming convention. I also watch parts of everything I move to my NAS to make sure it's labelled correctly. SO much stuff I have found is wrong.
15:53 <Nothing\> 1-10 then 11-20
24:10 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
25:05 <Ampera> Naming convention is one thing. Naming convention embedded into Matroska metadata requiring a remux is another
28:02 <Halcyon> What do you mean?
37:56 <Ampera> Halcyon, change the file name to one of your episodes of Hogan's Heroes, load it in VLC, and look at VLC's titlebar
03:29 <Kuschelpony> see you back later with a few new questions
03:47 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
05:16 <Nothing\> kugel....pusher?
05:34 <Nothing\> i don't even know or care anymore
06:26 <Nothing\> kugel's jut a weird sounding word and i wanted to have an excuse to say it
07:01 <Nothing\> poofty-zooooooooom!
07:03 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
13:09 <Halcyon> Ampera: Yes I know, but you don't need to remux a file to delete metadata
13:14 <Halcyon> Just... delete the metadata
13:45 <Halcyon> Even VLC will allow you to modify it
19:11 <Halcyon> Or you can strip it out with tools of your choice
21:27 <hsn> https://countingdownto.com/?c=3313876
21:28 <hsn> Hey guys we will meet at this or ... Hmm ? Kk and ampeera won't join :( ..
21:51 <Halcyon> Eh, it's not my kind of game
22:06 <hsn> Ok
22:27 <hsn> Np .. then its cancelled ?
23:20 <Halcyon> I also need to get dinner started
24:34 <hsn> U enjoy dinner then
56:11 <Ysjoelfir> mornings all :) When do we start?
57:51 <rust_collector> NEVEEEERRRR!!!!
57:53 <rust_collector> what?
58:10 <Ysjoelfir> hsn wanted to play among us with us, IIRC at 10 :)
58:35 <rust_collector> oh. then it looks like it is you and hsn...
58:50 <Ysjoelfir> huh? nobody else wanted to join? :(
58:55 <rust_collector> hsn, !!!
59:02 <rust_collector> I dunno?
59:09 <Ysjoelfir> thats sad, you need four people IIRC
59:13 <rust_collector> it is the felling I get from comments
00:42 <Ysjoelfir> then you should definitely join
02:38 <T3sl4> mornin hsn
02:45 <rust_collector> uhm urrr. eeeh
08:33 <steve30> hi
08:50 <rust_collector> many coffee steve30
10:43 <rust_collector> steve30, are you going to join that hsn game that they do not want to talk about?
12:20 <steve30> what's an hsn game?
13:04 <rust_collector> some game hsn wanted to play. I don't know, as he does not want to speak to me any more
13:46 <Ysjoelfir> https://store.steampowered.com/app/945360/Among_Us/
13:55 <Ysjoelfir> free on phone
14:04 <rust_collector> ok, maybe it was that
14:12 <Ysjoelfir> but I got it on steam. I hate playing on phones :D
18:52 * steve30 coffees
19:49 * rust_collector agrees with the steve
37:53 * Ysjoelfir Yuzu Teas and Waters
38:45 <rust_collector> I will just watch russians and east asians making some stuff from junk for a bit
45:14 <hsn> G
45:52 <hsn> T3sl4: and Ysjoelfir gm
45:59 <rust_collector> oh, you did not just wander off into the eternal desert... wait, you are on a small island
46:25 <T3sl4> ocean is a sort of desert
46:28 <hsn> rust_collector: gn
46:30 <hsn> Gm
46:48 <rust_collector> uhm, plenty of stuff grow in the sea, I think?
47:07 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: It was only me and u and T3sl4 .. steve30 i didnt ask .. ^^
47:16 <rust_collector> I guess it looks similar
47:46 <hsn> Fish grow
47:50 <hsn> In sea
49:43 <rust_collector> if they are lucky. some fish grow up in tin cans
50:57 <T3sl4> you lye
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52:31 <rust_collector> oh, there is that guy. I hope he is not very angry today
52:46 <Ysjoelfir> was it an angry pony before?
53:03 <rust_collector> I don't know?
53:20 <Kuschelpony> oh no worries
53:41 * steve30 wonders whether to go out later
53:44 <Kuschelpony> i just be distrascted with other stuf so i forgot in the mornign to ask my question i wanted
54:18 <rust_collector> well, it is too late for that now... good luck with whatever that was
54:31 <Kuschelpony> no problem i try later :)
55:14 <Ysjoelfir> I know a game mr. hsn and T3sl4 and maybe some others would probably like to play, if they don't like among us.
56:05 <hsn> Wanna join now Ysjoelfir ?
56:16 <hsn> And T3sl4
56:21 <hsn> And steve30
56:26 <hsn> And others?
56:36 <Ysjoelfir> sure, why not?
57:16 <Ysjoelfir> and if we can't convince them maybe they like https://factorio.com
57:26 * Ysjoelfir has ~450 hours in that game and still loves it
59:19 <hsn> I need to restart this router
00:07 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: looks like age of empire
00:09 <hsn> No?
00:16 <Ysjoelfir> nope, totally different
00:49 <rust_collector> you see that colour up top? that is yellow, and not brown... completely different game
00:52 <Ysjoelfir> idea is: you are a crashlanded guy and want to leave that planet. you start to buuild a factory to produce goods, start optimizing, it gets more complicated as you progress and so on
00:55 <hsn> I got a problem in router .. it somehow stops ethernet ..
00:56 <Ysjoelfir> lol
01:17 <hsn> Wifi on .. but my pc doesnt get ethernet and have to restart it
01:44 <hsn> rust_collector: make sense
01:46 <hsn> XD
02:08 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: u just described aoe in different planet and machines xd
02:16 <Ysjoelfir> nope
02:27 <hsn> T3sl4, is alive?
02:35 <T3sl4> buh
02:38 <hsn> my router is on
02:44 <hsn> i can join from steam
02:52 <rust_collector> NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
03:13 <T3sl4> so how many ppl are playing?
03:17 <rust_collector> 1
03:30 <hsn> T3sl4, Ysjoelfir and me only :(
03:50 <T3sl4> like on public lobbys?
03:57 <hsn> i guess so
04:03 <hsn> we join then make it public
04:04 <hsn> ?
04:10 <hsn> share room code ?
04:28 <hsn> wanna voice chat on discord ?
07:09 <rust_collector> I think hsn is right. it is just different colours in space
07:25 <hsn> :P
07:27 <Ysjoelfir> its a way more complex game
07:47 <rust_collector> yeah, you can move boxes, and
09:48 <Ysjoelfir> its a economy simulation, not a real time strategy xD and yes, economy simulation sounds awfully boring, but its actually nice
09:57 <Ysjoelfir> so hsn, where is the room code?
10:15 <hsn> RXBYNF
10:22 <rust_collector> iss on stteaMm!!
10:23 <hsn> T3sl4, Ysjoelfir ^
10:43 * T3sl4 saunas rust_collector
10:48 <hsn> wanna discord ?
12:01 <Ysjoelfir> sure, why not?
13:13 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, are you among us?
13:57 <hsn> server K ? its locked voice rooms
14:32 <Ysjoelfir> its installing updates :X
14:37 <hsn> add me discord hsn93#3891
16:30 <Ysjoelfir> lol
16:33 <hsn> room inactive
16:46 <Ysjoelfir> waiting for T3sl4 made the game be like "meh."
16:52 <hsn> OHIMIF
17:02 <T3sl4> buh
17:08 <hsn> T3sl4, is downloading hacks
17:09 <hsn> :D
17:41 <hsn> T3sl4, u got discord as well ?
24:05 <hsn> T3sl4, KJAWCF
24:23 <T3sl4> uuuh
25:29 <T3sl4> where are you on discord
25:46 <hsn> we dont have server
25:53 <hsn> add me hsn93@3891
25:53 <T3sl4> o
26:20 <Ysjoelfir> otherwise we just conquer Ampera's server
26:35 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
28:41 <hsn> T3sl4, join we are kicking ppl JKAWCF
29:25 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, do u hear me ?
29:54 <Ysjoelfir> yes
30:49 <rust_collector> JKAWCF how do you pronounce that in your language?
31:23 <hsn> j. caw .. cf
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06:46 <Ysjoelfir> We should definitely repeat that, I enjoyed this game :D
07:16 <rust_collector> hey... it is weekend... just keep going
07:34 <Ysjoelfir> we already played for 1.5 hours^^
07:45 <hsn> darn .. that was alot
07:46 <rust_collector> so?
07:48 <Ysjoelfir> no, 2?
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08:19 <rust_collector> you paid for that game, now use all of it!
08:44 <Ysjoelfir> well, usually that wouldn't be a problem for me (playing all day long), but I have to do some work today.
08:55 <rust_collector> blah blah
09:21 <T3sl4> work pfft
09:26 <hsn> this is not a game i want to play for very long time :P
09:43 <hsn> but enjoyed gg ,, T3sl4 and Ysjoelfir
09:57 <T3sl4> gg
10:10 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, T3sl4, you should realy look into factorio. maybe watch a few videos. its realy nice, especially for multiplayer
10:19 <T3sl4> now you can go sus some crew on your FTL ships ;)
10:24 <Ysjoelfir> lol
11:46 <rust_collector> fertilize the lawn ship... that is pretty serious
13:24 <hsn> For skill.. strategy based game .. i like league of legends .. fps .. apex legends .. didnt play other game for long time
13:57 <Ysjoelfir> then you should venture into other ones soon to enlarge your gaming horizon
13:59 <hsn> I ll look into some YouTube gameplay of factorio
14:06 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
14:23 <hsn> U look into league of legends
14:34 <rust_collector> god I hate it when you people suddenly start speaking french or namibian, or whatever this is
14:59 <hsn> rust_collector why u hate french
15:03 <Ysjoelfir> I play it regularely with a good friend. have already played 450 hours and bought it in early alpha phase and it is still a lot of fun. we usually play it for.... like 8 to 12 hours straight xD
15:39 <Ysjoelfir> I know league of legends, have tried it, but sadly its not "my" game. don't know why, the principle is nice, but I somehow couldn't get warm with lol
28:27 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, factorio single game duration ?
29:25 <Ysjoelfir> as long as you want. you can stop everytime you want and continue later.
30:34 <hsn> there is no end ?
30:56 <rust_collector> you people should do something like mario cart some time. just something simple to do together.
31:52 <hsn> rust_collector, i used to play game like that online
31:55 <Ysjoelfir> it is. either you die or you build the spaceship and fly away. either can take from... 4 hours (which I havce seen once) to several days
31:56 <hsn> it was sooo fun
32:34 <hsn> its called kart rider
32:39 <hsn> https://kartrider.nexon.net/en/announce
32:56 <hsn> but then they stopped it
33:03 <hsn> only working in one country i think
38:58 <hsn> https://youtu.be/6meIvXmLlS8
43:51 <hsn> darn thats alot Ysjoelfir
44:34 <Ysjoelfir> yep. but its rewarding to play, even if you decide to restart after 20 hours or so.
44:55 <Ysjoelfir> but: nap time! feel strangely tired today :X
48:08 <hsn> mybe u killed alot today
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