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01:35 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, I have a private, not offensive question for you. I am realy just curious. does your wife have to wear this.... full face hiding clothing which is common in some arabic countries?
02:06 <hsn> When we go out .. not full face .. hair
02:09 * electrohead offers coffee
03:00 <Ysjoelfir> is that because she wants to for religious reasons, or does she have to wear that by law? and: how old are you? (that one was a question from mrs. Kelly, when I discussed smoking with her now xD)
03:11 <hsn> Bcz she wants
03:18 <hsn> Bahrain is more free
03:34 <hsn> 27 i think
03:53 <electrohead> you think? lol
03:59 <hsn> XD it was in october my birthday .. wait i ll ask my wife im 27 or 28
04:15 <hsn> 27
04:20 <Ysjoelfir> I thought so. thanks :)
04:23 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D
04:56 <hsn> But "want ans religous" here .. can get tricky
05:04 <hsn> Want and religous
06:05 <Ysjoelfir> so its more free but still a tiny bit restrictive?
06:08 <hsn> You can live in repressive society from ur childhood that makes u think u choose what u want ..
07:22 <hsn> By law .. no totally free..
07:23 <hsn> by society and how and where u grow up .. it differs..
07:54 <Ysjoelfir> ah, like some parents basically "making" you think you want to be religious?
08:02 <electrohead> hsn: religious-wise, do you believe in anything?
08:45 <hsn> electrohead its hard question for me .. i really cant answer my self somtimes .. i guess i do some how
09:16 <hsn> But that answer i wouldnt feel comfortable to answer it here in real life
09:34 <electrohead> aha, ok I see
11:36 <hsn> Im more like .. i dont want to think about it .. i ll be good person .. and die peacefully
11:57 <hsn> Live what my Community lives..
13:34 <electrohead> was religion shoved down your throat since the day you were born?
15:29 <hsn> Yes
15:35 <Ampera> nice, religious debate
15:40 <Ampera> I'll take this over politics thanks
15:54 <Ampera> at least you can be sure nobody wins this
15:55 <Ampera> :P
15:59 <hsn> Actually my father was so strict
16:08 <hsn> Religionally
16:24 <electrohead> Ampera: this isn't a debate, I joined when questions were being asked, so I asked my own
16:33 <hsn> XD
16:39 <Ampera> debate meaning conversation
16:51 <Ampera> in my mind you don't need to oppose to have a debate
17:14 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
17:41 Quit: MRiddickW ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
19:23 * electrohead looks at the definition :P
19:31 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, a probably very...provocative question for someone living in a religious-ish region: could you immagine to believe in some other religion? background for that question is: I always saw myself as some kind of atheist, but the more I look into stuff like nordish and celtic mythology I can see myself and my beliefes manifest in there. which makes me think if I probably haven't been an atheist at all but just believing in a relig
19:31 <Ysjoelfir> didn't know of before, which is also severely different to the one I was "born" with.
20:00 <Nevoness> For me religion was always there during my school years tho never really meant anything to me. My parents, especially my dad tho is religious and does somewhat act accordingly x.x
21:04 <Ampera> I was athiest when born and am athiest to this day.
21:15 <Ampera> I enjoy a good philosophical debate, but otherwise I don't care.
21:21 <Ysjoelfir> also, I very much appreciate you discussing this with us :) at least here in germany its very hard to find someone to talk about the islam and their beliefes, as you either get asked if you are a nazi or you just get pushed away like "this is my beliefe, fuck off or i beat you!"
21:38 <Ampera> I've explored various religions, likely because it's foreign and has a lot of connotations where I live, Islam has been the most interesting to me
21:47 <Ampera> but not interest as in I want to convert
21:48 <K> hsn just cant beat you over the internets
21:53 <Ampera> just in reading up on it
21:54 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
21:58 <Ysjoelfir> @K :D
22:09 <electrohead> lol
22:32 <electrohead> everything is interesting to learn about, in the end, regardless "what's belived"
22:48 <K> he'll sic his camel on you
22:57 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, did you read up on older religions as well? I found myself being way more interested in them, while the big modern religions for me aren't... I don't know, they just feel wrong. which is why I left church back when I was 18
23:02 <K> that would be scary
23:03 <Ampera> I believe that when I die, I unlock sandbox godmode, I'm just playing the campaign now.
23:05 <Ysjoelfir> xD
23:10 <Ysjoelfir> lol Ampera
23:48 <K> "modern religion"
23:53 <Ampera> I'm really not well versed on religion, but one older religion, which I do believe is still somewhat around today, is Zoroastrianism, which I have learned has concepts of duality which may have influenced Abahamic religions.
23:56 <electrohead> heck, I lost my best friend to religion, in a sense, because he converted to this god-loving, everything needs to be about religion, shoved it in my face, and I had to (seriously) threaten to call the cops on him for harassment. dude wouldn't leave me alone about it, kept calling me and texting me "you need to be saved" LOL >.<
23:59 <Ampera> er, Abrahamic
24:50 <Ampera> people who are religiously insane amuse me
24:56 <electrohead> asked him nicely at least five or six times to leave it alone, and he stayed persistent. showed up at my apartment on my birthday with a bible in his hand.
25:06 <Ampera> I can't help but find people who get upset that I'm not their religion cute.
25:35 <Ampera> electrohead, and I thought I have had some weird friends.
25:46 <electrohead> oh he's not a friend anymore, sadly =\
25:58 <electrohead> we were best friends since oh.. 7, 8 years old?
26:05 <Ampera> wait
26:13 <Ampera> he was like 6-8 when he did this?
26:46 <Ampera> I hope you just meant 7-8 years ago, not 7-8 years old
26:51 <electrohead> no, that was about 3 years ago when that happened
27:00 <Ampera> oh I misread that
27:04 <electrohead> we met initially when we were around 7 or 7
27:05 <Ampera> you were best friends /since/
27:08 <Ampera> ah
27:11 <electrohead> 7 or 8 *
27:17 <electrohead> yeah, my bad
27:22 <Ampera> well besides IRC, I can really only think of one or two people who are light friends
27:37 <Ampera> perhaps the only person I maintain amicable contact with is an Egyptian guy I met at school
27:41 <electrohead> I don't have actual friends around where I live, anymore.
28:26 <electrohead> only people I talk to, are you guys here in the channel, then my friend in north carolina
28:33 <Ampera> There's one things I always fear when being brought over to someone's house for dinner, which has happened once or twice
28:43 <Ampera> that they start a before-dinner prayer they expect me to join in on
29:00 <Ampera> I would have absolutely no clue what the fuck to do and feel awkward as shit
29:26 <electrohead> Lol, I remember being a kid at a friend's house, invited for dinner, and that happened. I got yelled at because "I didn't know what to do"
29:39 <Ampera> gg
29:40 <K> pff
29:41 <Ysjoelfir> lol? :D
29:56 <electrohead> the holy rollers here in pennsylvania are weird, y0
29:57 <Ysjoelfir> I am very happy that I didn't have to endure such a thing ever
29:59 <electrohead> xD
30:01 <Ampera> but imagine being an adult and that happened, wtf are they gonna do
30:05 <Ampera> kick you out?
30:25 <electrohead> hahaha
30:27 <K> no desert!
30:30 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, afaik people aren't as much of an asshole about religion in Germany
30:41 <Ampera> over here there are people who would fuck you up if you believed differently
31:11 <Ampera> and electrohead literally lives a stone's throw away from Amish country, though afaik the Amish tend to be reasonably peaceul and on their own merits
31:14 <Ampera> er, peaceful
31:27 <Ampera> but besides that some of the most insanely devout people in the nation
32:52 <hsn> Wait
32:55 <electrohead> it's just a weird culture in general
32:57 <hsn> I read what ubwrote
33:13 <electrohead> the menonites are a different breed
33:50 <Ampera> electrohead, here the strangest people are the mormons
33:51 <Nevoness> Ampera: My dad does that before breakfast prayer...
34:00 <Ampera> but I've never had to deal with most of them
34:02 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: hsn, a probably very...provocative question for someone living in a religious-ish region: could you immagine to believe in some other religion? background for that question is: I always saw myself as some kind of atheist, but the more I look into stuff like nordish and celtic mythology I can see myself and my beliefes manifest in there. which makes me think if I probably haven't been an atheist at all but just believing in a religion I
34:11 <Nevoness> I always feel weird when doing it lol.
34:12 <Ampera> even in the more extreme denominations, they tend to be reasonable people and keep to themselves
34:27 <hsn> I will note this and answer later i ve to go now sry
34:38 <Ampera> Nevoness, it would put me in a strange position of having to bullshit it to not piss them off, or just stand there respectfully and hope they don't care
35:05 <Nevoness> At least i dont have to say anything other than repeat the prayer they say
35:22 <Ampera> If it was someone I knew, fuck that
35:24 <Ysjoelfir> no prob hsn :) cu later :D
35:28 <electrohead> lol
35:31 <electrohead> hsn: take care mate o/
35:58 <Ampera> I do have some roman catholic family, but I've never been asked to do any of that while eating with them
36:08 <Ampera> they never did it anyways, so maybe they just didn't have that practice
36:42 <Nevoness> Its not usual to have that practice over here
36:56 <Nevoness> So when i brought friends over to my dads place it resulted in some weird reactions
37:01 <electrohead> to think about, that family in question I mentioned earlier, the kid I was friends with, we lived together with our girlfriends at one point in time. I punched him in the back of his head for pushing his girlfriend around, and the dude also has a track record for stealing
37:03 <electrohead> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
37:04 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera: that is probably very right. we don't have THAT many fundamental christian people here, its more a difficulty when talking to people, especially with jewish ancestors. its like... you are a german, how dare you asking about me being a jew, do you want to kill me!?
37:17 <Nevoness> Im roman cathilic "on paper" but thats about it
37:20 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a nice guy electrohead
37:38 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, what's strange is my dad talks to me all the damn time about people picking on him being German on the internet
37:42 <Ampera> calling him a nazi and whatever else
37:48 <Ampera> I've never had that happen before in my life
37:50 <Ysjoelfir> on paper I was.. erm... the other one. not catholic. but evangelist is somethign different in english :D protestantic? whatever xD
38:13 <Ampera> and it's just because he flaunts his every single detail on facebook, home of the 50 year old dipshit
38:20 <Ysjoelfir> on the net I haven't had that for quite some time, but it has happened to me before.
38:37 <Ampera> I've been called a Nazi, but because people just didn't like me
38:42 <Ampera> I've also been called a Communist
38:52 <Ampera> which is sorta pleasing as I view myself as a centrist
39:09 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, we'd call that protestant
39:22 <Ampera> which is basically most things besides catholic or eastern/russian orthodox
39:25 <K> american centrist or other?
39:29 <K> (ducks)
39:34 <electrohead> lol
39:52 <Ampera> K, centrist I suppose is wherever you set the middle, and for me the context would make most sense as American
40:00 <Ampera> idk why that's something you think I'd get upset about
40:38 <K> i didnt think you would get upset, just for giggels
40:50 <Ampera> I believe in a variety of conservative and liberal values, have no strong connections towards any party or political leaning, and believe absolutes are rarely the case.
42:17 <electrohead> Ampera: hey, was it abnormally warm outside for you yesterday?
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42:31 <Ampera> electrohead, probably, warm spell is coming by
42:39 <Ampera> however I don't think I was outside all day yesterday
42:43 <Nevoness> Give us some warmths
42:56 <Nevoness> Its sunny af but still under 10c
42:56 * Ampera breathes sensually on Nevoness 
42:56 <Nevoness> lol
43:01 <Nevoness> o.o
43:03 <electrohead> lol
43:05 <Ampera> that better?
43:08 <Nevoness> lol.
43:29 <electrohead> it was in the 60's yesterday, here
43:30 <Nevoness> Your breath cooled off on its way from the US to Austria :/
43:41 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 60f to c
43:41 <EEVBlog> The result is: 15.556 c
43:49 <Ysjoelfir> thats pretty warm indeed
43:59 <Ampera> let me see what it is here now
44:16 <Nevoness> its 51f here atm
44:18 <Ysjoelfir> its 6°C here today, which is perfect! I'm sitting here with open windows the whole day, sooo nice fresh air
44:19 <Ampera> it's gonna be a hi of 67 today
44:21 <electrohead> oh, celcius? from when I got home from the car repair shop, my weather station reported 16.x
44:22 <Nevoness> and thats a high
44:26 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 67f to c
44:26 <EEVBlog> The result is: 19.444 c
44:45 <Ysjoelfir> thats nearly on the edge of "to warm for me"
44:49 <Ampera> wha
45:06 <Ampera> it starts getting a bit too warm when it's in the 80's for me
45:11 <Ampera> EEVBlog conver 85F to C
45:15 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 85F to C
45:15 <EEVBlog> The result is: 29.444 c
45:19 <Nevoness> Ysjoelfir: give me some of your unwated warmth, so that i can go work on my car without freezing my hands
45:23 <Ysjoelfir> thats fucking hot :D
45:27 <Ampera> meh
45:27 <Ysjoelfir> well
45:33 <Ampera> I consider 95 to be properly hot
45:38 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 95F to C
45:38 <EEVBlog> The result is: 35 c
45:39 <electrohead> 35-36 C is my limit before I eventually tap out, and head indoors to A/C
45:51 <Ysjoelfir> ok nevoness, I agree, for car work it can be.. up to 25 for me. but not more
45:57 <Nevoness> I prefer it around 20-25c
46:11 <Ampera> I prefer it to be 50F and low wind
46:16 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 50F to C
46:16 <EEVBlog> The result is: 10 c
46:16 <Nevoness> i ended up with a heat stroke when i worked on my car at around 40c
46:23 <electrohead> I had to handle around 40C at one point in time, but the older I get, the more I can't do the heat, lol
46:34 <Ampera> It doesn't get that hot where I live
46:39 <Ysjoelfir> I totally agree with Amperas 50f wind :D thats perfect
46:40 <Ampera> 35C is about as extreme as it'll ever get
46:52 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I consider it to be ideal t-shirt weather
46:53 <electrohead> Ampera: that was overseas when I experienced that temperature
46:58 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely!
47:03 <Nevoness> for whatever reason it often maxes out at 40-42c here
47:13 <Nevoness> and thats in the northern part of Styria
47:26 <electrohead> me and Ampera don't live too too far away, so we get like extremes
47:33 <electrohead> like-extremes * ?
47:42 <Ysjoelfir> I realy enjoyed the year like.... wait... must have been... 11 years ago, when it was like -14°C here. I finally had a reason to wear my thick clothes
47:44 <Ampera> the temperature here ranges from -20F to 95F
47:51 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert -20F to C
47:52 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
47:56 <Ampera> yeah I need to fix that eventually
48:00 <electrohead> lol
48:01 <Ampera> it's -30C
48:03 <Nevoness> Ysjoelfir: Come here to austria, we often average winters with -20c
48:04 <coppice> 50C is OK if its really dry, and you have lots to drink
48:08 <Ampera> I know that off the top of my head
48:34 <Ysjoelfir> you know Nevoness... I would love the temperature and the nature, but I feel somehow bond to the north, so going even MORE south is not ideal for me xD
48:38 <Nevoness> Tho its unusually warm here.
48:48 <Nevoness> For this time of the year at least
48:58 <Ysjoelfir> I would enjoy living where rusty lives. its nice there
48:59 <Ampera> If I were to move to another state, Texas seems like a decent one to go to
48:59 * electrohead hands coppice coffee
49:15 * Ampera hands electrohead's ass to him
49:25 <electrohead> speaking of, where is he?
49:28 * electrohead pages rust_collector
49:43 <Ysjoelfir> in Bed I think
49:50 * Ampera launches off some signal nukes
49:52 <Ysjoelfir> he came back at ~1 this night and went to bed around... 8?
50:07 <electrohead> ahh fair enough, he sleeps randomly at times
50:39 <electrohead> for the heck of it, I'll ask this - anyone currently here know of/are proficient with Cobb AccessPort?
51:05 <electrohead> trying to determine if I can figure out a linux based solution for programming it
51:10 <coppice> Ampera: among US states I'd say Texas is a star. Just one star.
51:35 <Ampera> coppice, every state is a star
51:39 <Ampera> texas just happens to have two
51:45 <Ampera> "lone star state" is a marketing lie
52:29 * Ysjoelfir has no idea what electrohead is talking about :D
52:34 <coppice> Ampera: have you been to Texas? They have a star on over pillar of every flyover. They really are determined to be the lone star state
53:17 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: https://www.cobbtuning.com/products/accessport
53:21 <electrohead> that, lol
53:56 <electrohead> I started basic training in august, down in texas. the heat was a wake up call for me, hahaha
56:58 <Ampera> coppice, doesn't sound like it, that's a lot of stars
57:44 <Ampera> holy shit I just looked over at the AP numbers for Georgia
57:51 <Ampera> that is stupid close
58:14 <Ampera> and AP is also reporting Biden has picked up PA, presumably from the mail-ins
58:53 <Ampera> If those numbers are accurate, and god knows how many people wish they can fuck with them, it's not looking good for the orange guy.
59:31 <Some_Person> The election so far is essentially going down exactly as Bernie Sanders predicted
59:40 <Ampera> he predicted something?
59:59 <Some_Person> https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/05/bernie-sanders-election-prediction-trump/
00:08 <Ampera> :/ WaPo
00:25 <Some_Person> I'm sure there are other sources
00:32 <Ampera> found one for USA Today
00:43 <Ampera> not that any of them are good, but Washington Post are one I consider especially bad
01:51 <Ampera> so his prediction is states that count mail in ballots after the elections are going to be reporting novel data days after?
01:53 <Nevoness> payyywaaaalll
02:19 <Ampera> I could have told you that
03:34 <Some_Person> I honestly didn't expect it to be this close. Learned a lesson that polls really don't mean much of anything
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48:18 <rust_collector> TA DAA!
50:18 <Ysjoelfir> there he is!
52:58 <rust_collector> more or less
55:41 * Ampera hugs the rust_collector 
00:37 <rust_collector> uuh, thanks, Ampera... but can you let go a little bit... air...
00:52 * Ampera decides the neck is now the best place to hug
01:46 <Watcher> Ampera don't kill rust_collector
02:01 <Ampera> Watcher, why not
02:48 <Watcher> thase is murder and iligal
03:08 <Ampera> it's not an illegal if you're a citizen
03:46 <Watcher> in my counrty it is iligal and i think in sweden also
05:19 <electrohead> lol
05:45 <electrohead> rust_collector: hey mate, you have any experience with cobb accessport at all?
08:14 <rust_collector> nope
08:44 <rust_collector> who made the ecu in those things?
09:21 <electrohead> ??
09:25 <electrohead> it's for my subaru WRX
11:13 <rust_collector> yes, I know... it is a bosch or ping pong or aisin, or...
11:50 <electrohead> ahh
11:55 <electrohead> hrmm, not too sure to be honest
11:56 * electrohead looks
12:37 <rust_collector> uhm, denso, probably
13:12 <rust_collector> aaaanyway, what do you want to know?
13:24 <electrohead> yeah probably denso
13:54 <electrohead> and, nevermind then, was going to see if you knew of any *nix based client software solutions
14:10 <electrohead> but after looking around online (again), I'm honestly not seeing much at all
14:20 <electrohead> Cobb seems to be very proprietary
14:55 <rust_collector> I really doubt you will find anything. but I would use screen, and see if I could get connected to it, and see what you find
15:03 <electrohead> came across a video on youtube of someone trying to run the accessport manager software within a virtualized windows install on a mac, but it didn't work for him, and had no comments about it
15:33 <electrohead> well, I have a laptop sitting next to me that was given to me, and I haven't removed windows yet
16:08 <electrohead> after clearing out all the spyware, was able to get accessport manager working, and it can communicate correctly with the programmer finally
19:07 <electrohead> potentially thinking about capturing the USB comms and then painstakingly seeing how it communicates
19:08 <electrohead> heh
19:46 <electrohead> the ultimate goal is to have an inegrated dashboard solution for everything, to include swapping ECU maps on the fly from the carcomputer I am wanting to build
21:08 <electrohead> map files are officially in my digital possession :D
21:28 <electrohead> .ptm is the file extension, and is in a complete binary format, fuck
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23:21 <rust_collector> whyyyyyyy do you want to change maps? make a map that works, and leave it alone. or are you changing fuel all the time or something?
23:45 <rust_collector> or are you trying to make a diy valet mode?
24:10 <electrohead> what, I can't play with my car? :P
24:21 <electrohead> this is out of complete curiosity, my man :)
24:29 <electrohead> not wanting to change anything *yet*
24:34 <electrohead> just seeing what all is possible
25:19 <rust_collector> well, have fun with that. but yeah, I would spend my time making the best map, and just use that
25:28 <electrohead> oh definitely
25:36 <electrohead> it already has a map from the previous owner
25:50 <electrohead> first goal is to see what is customized in this map
25:58 <electrohead> and then see if anything can be improved
26:52 <electrohead> the end goal may include remotely uploading maps to the r.pi, to then send to the accessport itself
27:56 <electrohead> baby steps, lol
30:01 <rust_collector> did you change the injectors and turbo on that thing?
31:06 <electrohead> no, but just had all gaskets replaced the other day
31:15 <electrohead> water pump, etc
31:27 <rust_collector> mmkay.
32:59 <electrohead> why mmkay?
33:12 <rust_collector> well, be careful, they are pretty tough, if you know what you are doing. but they will explode if you do not.
33:14 <electrohead> that has nothing to do with the fact I want to view the current ECU map and learn from it
33:22 <electrohead> yes, I know this
33:42 <electrohead> :P
33:53 <rust_collector> mmkay because now I know it is a pretty much standard engibe, with the tiny turbo and injectors
34:04 <electrohead> ahh
34:40 <electrohead> yeah, so the previous owner of this car installed a different (bigger, but not sure how much bigger) turbo, and did other work to this as well
34:46 <electrohead> front mount intercooler
35:05 <electrohead> do want to say different injectors for sure, but would have to confirm that
35:48 <electrohead> ahh, ok ok, yes for sure, had to think about that
36:19 <electrohead> I didn't care about this car for a bit, but I care way more than ever now, and just want to make it nice and purrty again, and work on it, have fun, etc
36:37 <electrohead> still need to fix the damn fender. slight damage from a tree stump, guh
36:54 <electrohead> just sealed the trunk yesterday, as it was leaking every time it rained
36:57 <electrohead> >.<
37:02 <rust_collector> ok, so bigger turbo and injectors... make sure you have a lot of fuel pump, because the original does not have all that much extra to give.
39:02 <rust_collector> and lack of fuel will kill it faster than anything you can think of, maybe except getting shot with something large-ish
39:46 <rust_collector> just be careful, ok?
39:56 <electrohead> I'm being more careful than you think!
40:00 <K> !
40:00 <electrohead> this is my only car, lol
40:56 <rust_collector> buy a bus card, or bus app, or whatever they use these days, lol
41:05 <electrohead> so, just found out that the accessport manager is only the middle-man to transfer the map files between computer and accessport, can't view anything within the map files
41:06 <Ysjoelfir> lol
41:08 <electrohead> lol
42:24 <electrohead> if it helps, I made friends with the guy at the shop who dropped my engine and replaced all the gaskets, and all he works on are subarus - just trying not to bug him too much, as he works down there at that shop, and don't want to piss him off or anything
42:58 <electrohead> only thing is, he doesn't know much about the software side, just the tunings in general
43:16 <electrohead> so I'm pretty much on my own in terms of figuring out how the programmer communicates with the software
44:30 <rust_collector> I would think yandex is your friend...
44:50 <rust_collector> have you been on realhomemadeturbo forum?
45:23 <rust_collector> the one who used to be called homemadeturbo, but was sold, so they started the rhmt forum, lol
45:50 <electrohead> lol
45:53 * electrohead looks
46:31 <rust_collector> it is not safe if you are less than 2 miles from work
48:18 <rust_collector> I looked it up last night, and I am on the same latitude as yakutat. I should go there somewhere, and visit both of them
48:47 <electrohead> well I'm not planning on modifying the actual mapping of the ECU right now, just getting a plan into gear and startng integrating a raspberry pi for a media/ham radio/etc setup in my car
49:05 <electrohead> settling on a 7 inch touch screen to replace the head unit space
50:36 <rust_collector> I probably should go visit someone in alaska... just because. but it is a really long walk
52:16 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, what is mrs k. reading?
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54:26 <Ysjoelfir> let me ask
55:01 <Ysjoelfir> The lost city of the monkey god from douglas preston
55:12 <rust_collector> uhm...
57:37 <hsn> K
57:39 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CHNvqyNgjmy/?igshid=mxl4dkxxe1h6
57:48 <K> eh?
57:54 <hsn> 4.x M gold is on that camel
58:05 <hsn> 4.xM usd
58:06 <rust_collector> that looks sort of interesting-ish. now I have to remember where honduras is
58:26 <K> hsn, it ugly
58:35 <Ysjoelfir> thats a very precious ugly camel
58:43 <rust_collector> K, it is a camel, lol
58:43 <Ysjoelfir> and no idea where honduras is
58:58 <hsn> K. That camel name "hunuf" and its .. its wedding to another camel named "ajlan"
59:11 <K> oh.
59:21 <K> gay camels?
59:23 <K> progressive
59:38 <hsn> Hunuf is female
59:53 <hsn> The gold here for females
59:53 <K> pardon
04:04 <rust_collector> yeah, I think I won't go to honduras right now
14:12 <electrohead> rust_collector: so the accesstuner software is free, but in order to get the download link, I have to pay $150 for a class to learn about the accesstuner software
14:15 <electrohead> o.O
14:17 <electrohead> lol
15:02 <Ysjoelfir> thats probably.... free? kind of?
16:22 <electrohead> I don't think it's free if I'm forced to purchase an online course and take it xD
18:44 <rust_collector> I did see a site that had a link to the download. I have no idea
20:09 <rust_collector> it could be one of those that make you install winrarpro 13 times, and some other random bundled productivity programs
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21:00 <electrohead> well, it's a possibility though, because of the class is decent enough, I can most likely learn a lot from it
21:41 <electrohead> just the fact when on the cobb site, it says the price is "0.00" yet in order to get it, you get redirected to an external site where you have to pay $150 for the course
21:45 <electrohead> so, that's a bit weird to me
21:55 <K> ain't nobody got'nt no time for no class.
22:13 <K> isnt english delightful
22:17 <electrohead> :p
22:28 <electrohead> sure is
22:43 <electrohead> on a side note, the rabbit hole led me to this - https://www.tactrix.com/
22:52 <Ampera> boogers and flies on the way
25:09 <Ampera> boogers and flies are here
25:15 <Ampera> 23 minute delivery time
25:24 <Ampera> probably the fastest I've ever gotten from uber eats
25:32 * Ampera drowns electrohead in five guys fries
25:50 <electrohead> haven't had them, yet
25:56 <electrohead> so I'll gladly accept, haha
26:01 <Ampera> you should, they're good
26:30 <Ampera> I have two bacon cheeseburgers with catsup, mustard, mayo, mushrooms, and extra bacon
26:48 <Ampera> and a large fry, and a large at five guys is like five pounds of fries :P
27:46 <rust_collector> trying to gain some handles?
28:43 <electrohead> damn, heh
28:52 <electrohead> I'd eat it just to say I've tried it :P
29:10 <electrohead> rust_collector: hey, ever hear of this? https://romraider.com/index.php
31:19 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, I have heard people mentioning that. never had anything to do with it
33:22 <electrohead> I won't use it to tune anything, but will have a go at checking out the logging capabilities
33:53 <electrohead> because if that works well for logging, I just may utilize that for visualizations of data, then keep the accessport directly for the maps only
35:51 <rust_collector> right
43:14 <rust_collector> I like how this phones camera tell me that "this camera takes better pictures if you don't have shit on the lens"
43:41 <electrohead> lol
46:43 <K> kinly wipe the bird doo-doo off
51:38 <Ysjoelfir> so... I think I'll try to stuff the new mainboard in this PC and hope it will start back up without problems. cu later
51:55 <rust_collector> HAH!
52:01 <rust_collector> good night Ysjoelfir
52:11 <K> till next week, someday
52:21 <rust_collector> happy updates!
56:42 <electrohead> EEVBlog convert 17.3C to F
56:43 <EEVBlog> The result is: 63.14 f
57:43 <rust_collector> EEVBlog convert -63c to pizza
57:43 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
58:34 <rust_collector> EEVBlog convert EEVBlog to EEVBl0g
58:34 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
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05:57 <Ampera> hullo ThunderSqueak, how are you doing
06:33 <ThunderSqueak> doing ok, just sat down for work, I setup one of my laptops to chat and stuff when not on calls :>
06:40 <ThunderSqueak> how are you Ampera ?
06:59 <Ampera> I'm fine, ordered some burgers and fries from five guys, and I've eaten about half of it
07:36 <Ampera> When I was still working at my office, I actually had two laptops with me, my Surface Pro 3 for surfing web, and my iBook G4 exclusively for IRC
08:19 <Ampera> but since I'm now working from home, I have four monitors I can use for all of that
08:20 <ThunderSqueak> so yesterday, after repeatedly telling someone to not go into work as they are covid positive, they decided to go in anyway without a mask or any other form of protection...
08:27 <Ampera> nice
08:30 <ThunderSqueak> I am so glad I am working from home
08:51 <Ampera> I haven't been at my company's office since early march at the latest
09:00 <ThunderSqueak> he walked right in and was coughing up a lung the entire time from the description and kept saying that it was fine because he didnt feel bad ><
09:04 <ThunderSqueak> wtf
09:04 <Ampera> They are now technically open, but I believe they have a max capacity of 25 people
09:25 <Ampera> some people have a mindset that if they're not dead yet they're fit enough to work
09:36 <Ampera> noble in some circumstances, this isn't a great time for that
11:42 <K> the fuck? going to work even when positive?
11:55 <K> what the actual fuck?
12:15 <ThunderSqueak> yep, a positive test
12:33 <ThunderSqueak> from what I understand, he didnt beleive it so went and got tested again, and both positive
12:40 <Ampera> Does your work provide COVID-specific time off?
12:45 <K> mine?
12:45 <ThunderSqueak> he put about 150 people in danger
12:47 <Ampera> I believe mine does
12:47 <K> yes
12:50 <Ampera> no ThunderSqueak's
12:58 <ThunderSqueak> Ampera, they are union, and yes
13:13 <ThunderSqueak> they had set him up to work from home
13:23 <Ampera> well just because it's union doesn't mean it can't be a shitty union :P
13:35 <ThunderSqueak> had an entire office delivered since he wanted to work
13:53 <Ampera> my work basically said whatever you want take it when we all left
14:10 <Ampera> they gave me a laptop, but for people who didn't get one, they just took their desktops
14:20 <ThunderSqueak> *nod*
14:46 <Ampera> I'm glad NY, especially my part of NY, is doing alright.
14:52 <ThunderSqueak> I think they need to disable the rfid keys of covid positive people :/
15:06 <ThunderSqueak> oh Alaska is going to get really bad soon
15:23 <ThunderSqueak> their are so many anti-maskers here it is stupid
15:24 <Ampera> Right now in our county of 150,000 we have 89 positives
15:56 <Ampera> 9 hospitalizations, 4 people under investigation currently hospitalized (don't know if those numbers are inclusive or exclusive), and 706 quarantines.
16:14 <Ampera> 1666 total positive cases in the county, 1425 recoveries, 51 deaths
16:29 <ThunderSqueak> right now we have 10,000 cases... just in anchorage
16:43 <Ampera> it's pretty much the same ratio in the metro, with maybe around 10k-12k total cases of all time in my metro of 1 million
16:44 <ThunderSqueak> active cases
16:53 <Ampera> actives are probably around 300-400
17:07 <ThunderSqueak> 10k active cases in a city of 220k people
17:25 <Ampera> welp
17:33 <ThunderSqueak> and it is rising, the charts all show a log rise
17:39 <ThunderSqueak> I am hiding
17:51 <Ampera> I wonder if Alaska is particularly affected as you basically have the fall/winter indoor transmission spike all year round
18:21 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, and apparently almost 65% hard core trumpers
18:43 <rust_collector> https://www.fhi.no/en/id/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/daily-reports/daily-reports-COVID19/
18:43 <EEVBlog> hi.
18:48 <ThunderSqueak> hi EEVBlog
18:50 <Ampera> Voting trump doesn't mean anti-masker
19:04 <ThunderSqueak> no, but up here a lot of them are
19:28 <Ampera> I've not been out of my house much, but I've not seen many people take issue with masks
19:30 <ThunderSqueak> they also tend to carry guns at all times
19:40 <Ampera> neat
19:49 <ThunderSqueak> can't walk down the street without seeing at least 2/3 of the people with a sidearm
20:21 <K> immanent polar bear threat?
20:28 <rust_collector> hmm, how far away is big lake?
20:30 <Ampera> not in Anchorage :P
21:33 <rust_collector> I used to chat with a guy in big lake. but it must be 10 years ago now
22:07 <Ampera> rust_collector, seems quite close
22:10 <Ampera> on an Alaskan scale anyways
22:18 <rust_collector> well, yes
22:45 <rust_collector> unless you have to drive around 3 mountains to get there
24:22 <ThunderSqueak> we have large brown and dog sized black bear all over anchorage that eat people occasionally
24:50 <ThunderSqueak> but the guns they carry are because they can
25:22 <Ampera> just found out they have google street view on the ISS
26:00 <rust_collector> I just found this place: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Marys+Igloo,+AK,+USA/@65.1679773,-165.484615,8.25z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x56c8cf0e06eb0339:0xc7ac29ac13d93655!2sBig+Lake,+AK,+USA!3b1!8m2!3d61.5118164!4d-149.9663271!3m4!1s0x5733df12308c8edf:0x982eebdf67d1bc8!8m2!3d65.1438059!4d-165.0750732
35:26 <electrohead> EEVBlog convert 23C to F
35:27 <EEVBlog> The result is: 73.4 f
35:35 <electrohead> wow, it's in the 70's here
35:53 <electrohead> that's my cue to get to the store
37:27 <rust_collector> 44 here. so I should go outside
52:39 <ThunderSqueak> rust_collector, you have an issue with traditional homes? :P
53:13 <ThunderSqueak> jk, no idea waht that place is XD
53:18 <ThunderSqueak> probably a bar
53:22 <rust_collector> nope, except they are hard to find, on google maps
53:23 <ThunderSqueak> everything is a bar here
53:27 <rust_collector> heh
53:41 <rust_collector> I have a feeling it is just some place no one goes it
53:46 <rust_collector> to
55:17 <ThunderSqueak> you would be surprised
55:19 <ThunderSqueak> XD
55:29 <ThunderSqueak> *shrug*
56:07 <rust_collector> it does have the bar sounding name...
57:18 <rust_collector> only 4 days on a dog sled from....location
57:26 <ThunderSqueak> yep, just like Chillkoot Charlies or Baked Alaska Alehouse
58:29 <rust_collector> well, have fun, I have to go outside and try to get somehting done
58:38 <rust_collector> pretty much anything...lol
23:41 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/does-anyone-here-want-help-me-getting-a-rgb-led-matrix-panel-to-run/new/#new
46:29 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
46:29 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:35 2020
05:24 <rust_collector> yaay, that was new headlights installed. I bet they are pointing backwards or something
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11:30 <rust_collector> I wonder what oddball connector Ysjoelfirs new motherboard needs....
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21:37 <Nothing\> aur bhai
21:54 <rust_collector> you mean arch?
21:55 <Nothing\> namascar
21:59 <Nothing\> nope
22:01 <Nothing\> it's hindi
22:06 <Nothing\> basically means, "hey bro"
22:12 <Nothing\> or bhaisal is brother
22:18 <Nothing\> like "what's up brother?"
23:08 <Nothing\> except i forget the greeting that goes with that
23:19 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
23:30 <Nothing\> there are like 5 or 6 different greetings in hindi, based on what religion the person is you're greeting and how formal the situation is
23:36 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <#
23:37 <Nothing\> <3
23:41 <Nothing\> aur bhai!
23:53 * electrohead waves
24:00 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
24:10 <Nothing\> you know guys, this place has been nice and lively lately
24:18 <Nothing\> lotsa new faces in here, i like it
24:20 * Ampera hugs electrohead and Nothing\ at the same time
24:37 <Nothing\> it's a huge change from the usual one conversation a day, which was usually with myself
24:38 <Ampera> Dave even made an appearance
24:57 * Nothing\ group hugs electrohead and Ampera and pulls rust_collector in
25:05 <rust_collector> whoops
25:06 <electrohead> howdy
25:31 <Nothing\> lol that's how you know you've got good friends
25:36 <Nothing\> greetings take several minutes
25:47 <Nothing\> even after less than a day of no talking
26:11 <Nothing\> you ever notice when you eat lotsa indian food, your sweat starts to smell like it?
26:18 <Ampera> I've never had indian food
26:24 <Nothing\> are you shitting me?
26:26 <electrohead> curry <3
26:33 <Ampera> Nothing\, no because I haven't had any indian food
26:38 <Ampera> therefore no shitting
26:40 <Nothing\> curry's more thai food, or some of them anyways
26:45 <Nothing\> like red or green curry are thai
26:51 <Ampera> most of my curries are fairly western
27:00 <Nothing\> really...
27:01 <Nothing\> huh
27:10 <Ampera> mushrooms, chicken, pork, rice
27:11 <Nothing\> yeah i guess it's like that "chinese" food you order for take away
27:16 <Nothing\> which isn't the least bit chinese
27:26 <Nothing\> or that "indian" dish that came from the UK
27:51 <rust_collector> I think most dishes are pretty universal, there are local variants, but... most places has something similar-ish
28:06 <Ampera> I'm not even sure what would qualify as indian food
28:33 <Nothing\> well i just effectively banned my mom from talking to her ex
28:43 <rust_collector> grilled indian chicken would be indian
28:47 <Nothing\> cuz he was giving her a hard time about her pension and inheritance from her dead mother
29:08 <Nothing\> i asked for the phone but she wouldn't give it to me so i told her if he calls again, i'm not gonna hang up on him anymore
29:28 <Nothing\> i'm gonna pick up and tell him if he calls again he's gonna have some cops at his door with a harassment charge to deal with
29:48 <Ampera> fun
29:55 <Nothing\> fucking hell, first my brother, now this
30:03 <Nothing\> gotta love family, huh Ampera?
30:06 <Ampera> no
30:12 <Nothing\> i was being sarcastic
30:18 <Ampera> still no
30:24 <Nothing\> yeah i know
30:37 <Nothing\> it's not really a joking matter, but god help me levity's all i've got
31:05 Quit: Watcher_ ([email protected]) Quit: i'am out
31:28 <Ampera> My parents just irritate the hell out of me
31:52 <Ampera> I've sorta stopped talking to my dad just so I don't have to deal with his shit more than is absolutely necessary
32:08 <Ampera> I wish I had the same liberty with my mom, but I might need her to get out of here
35:14 <Nothing\> bbiab gotta escort my mom to a meeting with her ex
35:32 <Ampera> have fun, don't get arrested
35:35 <Nothing\> apparently he's got smokes for my brother or some shit anrd she's gotta pay him for them
35:54 <Nothing\> screen's off so i can't see what yall are saying, but wish my luck
35:57 <Nothing\> ta ta
36:52 <rust_collector> lunk you
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26:31 <electrohead> rust_collector: https://i-carus.com/doc/1/
26:34 <electrohead> :D
27:52 <rust_collector> hummm...
28:17 <rust_collector> that should fix your cravings for a bit
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35:29 <electrohead> this is the best option I've spotted so far, in terms of a pre-built hardware solution that I can hack at
35:33 <electrohead> but, still looking around
36:30 <rust_collector> I guess the days of just using a thin client with a hard drive are done?
37:11 <electrohead> I'm trying to have all the hardware stay inside the dashboard
38:37 <rust_collector> yeees?
40:05 <rust_collector> Now I wonder if my old "media pc" has a standard sort of motherboard... I really like the little thing, but it is very low spec.
45:09 <Ysjoelfir> HA! https://snipboard.io/dWfmQ3.jpg
45:44 <rust_collector> hA?
46:05 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
46:17 <rust_collector> ok
46:40 <Ysjoelfir> well, was quite a bit more hassle than I immagined it to be.
47:02 <rust_collector> did you miss any weird connectors?
48:13 <Ysjoelfir> no, I missed a small information in the B550 chipset from AMD.
48:20 <Ysjoelfir> it doesn't support my CPU
49:58 <rust_collector> who needs a cpu anyway?
51:08 <rust_collector> well, except mr head, but he has special needs
51:20 <Ysjoelfir> indeed, indeed.
51:27 <rust_collector> so, you found some odd old cpu, or?
51:32 * electrohead stares
51:59 <Ysjoelfir> nope, I made this shitty thing fit my old mainboard despite having a four slot GPU
53:00 <rust_collector> that is cheeeeating
53:10 <electrohead> https://mausberry-circuits.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/4amp-car-supply-switch
54:22 <rust_collector> that looks... not very cheap
56:36 <electrohead> $37 USD with shipping, I'd say that's a win
56:41 <electrohead> that's not too expensive at all
57:26 <electrohead> but, it's a 4A PSU with GPIO integration to safely shut the r.pi down
57:34 <electrohead> I'm going to try it out
03:25 <electrohead> and for the small size of that, I say it's worth it
24:58 <Halcyon> Morning all
25:09 <Halcyon> Heyyy electrohead \o/
25:31 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr hulk
25:38 <electrohead> \o/
26:00 <Halcyon> I'm still sick :(
26:10 <rust_collector> well, stop that?
26:16 <Halcyon> I know right?
26:24 <rust_collector> mmhmmm
26:29 <rust_collector> go go go
27:41 * Halcyon coughs
28:10 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, take a look at that. https://snipboard.io/dWfmQ3.jpg
28:34 <Halcyon> Heheh UBERTRAGUNGSRATE
28:55 <rust_collector> have some vaahtokarkit
29:01 <Halcyon> Very nice, is this at your place?
29:11 <Ysjoelfir> yep, its my workstation at home
29:24 <Halcyon> Neat. I only have 10 Gig running through my rack to servers
29:41 <rust_collector> not bad for wifi
29:51 <Halcyon> Wifi?
29:55 <Ysjoelfir> I have that right now only to my switch, but will add 10G to my NAS as soon as I rebuild that which will be kind of soon
30:09 <Ysjoelfir> also, vaahtokarkit are a great idea. I should get some for my cocoa
30:13 <rust_collector> yep
30:40 <Halcyon> Who said anything about Wifi?
30:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I'm willing to call it. There aren't any people dumber than those who respond to free gumtree and Facebook marketplace ads for furniture. "Will it fit in the boot of my car if I fold the seats?" THE DIMENSIONS ARE IN THE FIRST LINE OF THE AD. https://t.co/lipt8lIiqF
30:53 <Ysjoelfir> rusty did :D so it must be right, right?
31:12 <rust_collector> Imo, 10G wifi is pretty good
32:00 <Halcyon> There is such a thing? Not even 802.11ax does 10 Gigabit
32:16 <rust_collector> pretty impressive, right?
32:47 <Halcyon> Impressive but kind of pointless?
33:03 <rust_collector> is it?
33:24 <Halcyon> Even 802.11ax is meh. Almost no one will use the capacity, since you can't get internet faster than 1Gbps here
33:32 <Halcyon> And even if you could, what would you do with it?
33:54 <Halcyon> Most servers, even Youtube, won't let you transfer data that fast, it's limited
34:00 <rust_collector> you could... clone your laptop, and...
36:15 <rust_collector> hmm, I still wonder if the core duo box uses a standard size motherboard... maybe I should look at it?
38:31 <Ysjoelfir> do it!
40:12 * steve30 pets Halcyon 
40:40 <Halcyon> :D
41:26 <rust_collector> it is very compact. I like the case. but the computer part is sort of meh
43:30 <rust_collector> I think that was the last computer I paid anything for. I gave 200nok for it, with a screen and mouse/keyboard. so 20-ish dollars. but it does work
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45:23 <rust_collector> nah, it works. I did find a little 12 to 220v inverter in the dumpster. I guess I should see if that works
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46:50 <rust_collector> nah. I will add it to the pile of things
47:05 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/1XHYczP/16046990800452716927795519931216.jpg
47:08 <Nothing\> my new toys
47:22 <Nothing\> i know i've already been on about this stuff for the last 3 days, but i had to take a pic of course
47:23 <Halcyon> You're making explosives?
47:26 <rust_collector> don't eat both of those
47:28 <Nothing\> lol yup
47:37 <Halcyon> Do I need to call Interpol? :P
47:40 <Nothing\> Halcyon, though technically it's not an explosive
48:07 <Halcyon> Is it an igniter for something larger?
48:15 * Halcyon leers at Nothing\ 
48:51 <Nothing\> but i would like to figure out a way to rig a tiny glass ampule filled with glycerine and put it into a closed container, like wrapped in some foil or something with some of the permanganate
49:08 <Nothing\> make wee fire crackers
49:30 <Nothing\> assuming it would explode with more force if contained, rather than just burning super hot and violent
50:03 <Halcyon> Wouldn't that just spread glass everywhere?
50:38 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
50:43 <Halcyon> YAY!
50:46 <Ampera> how are
50:49 <Halcyon> Meh
50:59 <Ampera> call?
51:00 <Halcyon> Mark gave me his sickness
51:04 <Ampera> oh great
51:05 <Halcyon> Yeh sure
51:13 <Ampera> give me a minute
51:13 <Halcyon> He got Covid tested yesterday
51:48 <Ampera> did he win?
51:57 <Halcyon> Result should come today or tomorrow
52:09 <Halcyon> It's likely going to be negative, it's just a cold I think
55:33 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera and Halcyon 
55:55 <Nothing\> ah i got food to eat, brb
56:11 <Nothing\> ham and scrambled eggs on toast mmm
57:13 <hsn> Halcyon: what is percentage/tolarances of covid-19 tests u got
58:00 <hsn> Nothing\ u dnt hug suspecious guy
58:22 <Nothing\> do what now?
58:47 <Halcyon> hsn: What do you mean percentage?
59:34 <hsn> Halcyon: if its negative it doesnt mean 100% ur clear
59:38 <Halcyon> Do you mean number of tests vs. positive results?
59:53 <Halcyon> Well no test is 100% accurate. It's 99.999% accurate
00:09 <hsn> R u sure?
00:24 <Halcyon> Nationally I think we've conducted over 9 million tests, 0.3% come back positive
01:07 <hsn> Afaik for positive its accurate .. for negative its something like 70%
01:14 <Halcyon> *shrug*
01:27 <Halcyon> Not sure, I've only heard of maybe one or two tests which were wrong.
01:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: EFF: The makers of youtube-dl didn't infringe on anyone's copyright. They simply provided information to the public about how to perform a certain task. https://t.co/6bt5Zw1Ih5
02:10 <hsn> Wrong as the guy is not infected but test showed positive?
02:18 <Halcyon> No the other way around
02:29 <hsn> Ok
02:36 <Halcyon> The other thing is, how do you distinguish between a faulty test and someone administering the test incorrectly?
03:23 <hsn> Idk
03:25 <hsn> https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/which-test-is-best-for-covid-19-2020081020734#:~:text=available%20in%20minutes.-,What%20about%20accuracy%3F,a%20more%20accurate%20antigen%20test.
04:05 <hsn> Combine test and human errors
04:22 <hsn> To get the accuracy percentage
34:35 * Ysjoelfir has just bought 2 GPUs and bid on 5 more...
35:07 <Halcyon> YAY
35:10 <Halcyon> What did you buy?
35:37 <Ysjoelfir> I am now again a proud owner of a S3 Virge and a ATI Rage 128
35:51 <Halcyon> Heh I think I have a few of those in a box somewhere
36:08 <Ysjoelfir> I somehow have the urge to start a vintage GPU collection again
36:10 <Halcyon> Actually, I should get around to finishing organising my store room
36:19 <Halcyon> Do it, vintage computing is fun
36:43 <Ysjoelfir> I know, I did it before :)
37:00 <Ysjoelfir> I still have many of the GPUs and Chipsets of the stuff I collected back then...
37:03 <Halcyon> Did you get rid of your collection?
37:51 <Ysjoelfir> yes. It was in a time of great depression, I felt overburdened and I admit that I desoldered the chipsets and GPUs of the stuff I liked the most and just scrapped the boards and cards...
37:58 * Ysjoelfir is still annoyed about that
38:12 <Halcyon> :(
38:18 * Ysjoelfir is especially annoyed for selling a gravis ultrasound for 5€ >_<
38:32 <Halcyon> I didn't value some of the stuff I had as a kid. I ended up completely trashing and throwing out an old IBM 286
39:38 <Nothing\> man
39:58 <Ysjoelfir> yeah..
40:13 <Nothing\> why did i pay perfectly good money for a version of BASIC on Steam when the 64 bit port of QBASIC exists
40:26 <Halcyon> I'm glad I held onto my Voodoo2 card. I think I actually sold that one to Ampera
40:29 <coppice> Halcyon: what did you do with your parents?
40:30 <Nothing\> which does stuff like directx
40:32 <Halcyon> But I have a few others
40:44 <Nothing\> and some other nifty features original QBASIC didn't have
40:48 <Halcyon> My parents?
41:02 <Nothing\> it's a really powerful language compared to its predecessor
41:19 <Ysjoelfir> I have a set of Voodoo 3 in a SLI, combined with a PowerVR Kyro 2 waiting on a dual slot 1 board with 2 Tualatin capable socket 370 adapters
41:22 <coppice> Hakcyon: did you value them, or throw them away?
41:27 <Nothing\> i just wish i had the attention span to learn programming languages proper
41:33 <Halcyon> coppice, of course :P
41:37 <Nothing\> it's like, i'll do the first maybe dozen tutorials or so, right
41:46 <Nothing\> then i'll lose interest or find another project
42:06 <Nothing\> then i'll come back to it after a while and either need a refresher on some bits and pieces or don't remember where i left off
42:06 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
42:18 <Nothing\> so i inevitably end up reading the same information over and over again
42:24 * Ampera squeezes Nothing\ harder
42:24 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera <3
43:27 <Nothing\> i've been learning to play this game lately
43:28 <Nothing\> https://store.steampowered.com/app/370360/TIS100/
43:47 <Nothing\> but it uses something akin to assembly
44:23 <Ampera> Be careful about learning, you may regret it later
44:27 <Ampera> I regret leaning how to breathe
44:30 <Nothing\> i have a whole buncha games that use derivatives of real languages to act as a sort of puzzle based game
44:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, tell me about it
44:45 <Ampera> why
44:46 <Nothing\> it's like that time i took that wine making course and forgot how to drive
44:47 <Ampera> none of your business
45:28 <Nothing\> or i took up opioids and forgot how to function as a healthy member of society
45:39 <Nothing\> lol i'm just kidding
45:45 <Nothing\> i was never a healthy member of society
45:59 <Nothing\> except maybe when i was a kid but even then my mental health was in question
46:03 <Ampera> Nothing\, stop it you're out-depressing my depression
46:19 <Ampera> only I'm allowed to do that in this channel
46:20 <Nothing\> lol sorry i'm not trying to, i'm just relating these things matter of factly
46:26 <rust_collector> yeah, stop ruining a perfectly ok depression
46:26 <Nothing\> tbh they don't bother me at all
46:32 <Ampera> hahaha
46:43 <Nothing\> at least not that i'm aware of
46:55 <Nothing\> maybe they bother me on some deeper level... probably do
47:06 <Nothing\> hnce why i'm a loon
47:21 <Nothing\> and not the kind that's worth $1, eh?
47:24 <Nothing\> :P
47:30 <Nothing\> my best impression of a canadian
47:44 <Ampera> I'm closing in on 1.5 months of being on HRT and I'm already starting to feel the physical effects, and it's throwing my mind in an infinite loop of I don't know if I should do this
47:49 <Ampera> it's like the 2020 election but inside my brain
47:50 <Nothing\> still beats what we call our $2 coins
47:58 <Ampera> ya toonie
48:06 <Nothing\> yeah lol it sounds stupid
48:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, maybe lower the dose(s)
48:21 <Nothing\> mitigate some of the side effects
48:28 <Ampera> there is no side effects
48:30 <Nothing\> ease into it more slowly
48:34 <Nothing\> or
48:34 <Ampera> this isn't a (direct) result of the drugs
48:40 <Nothing\> just stop taking them for the time being
48:44 <Ampera> and the dose is already a low dose
48:44 <Nothing\> and give it some more thought
48:51 <Nothing\> it sounds like you need to
48:55 <Ampera> There is no more to think about, that's what's dumb about it
49:07 <Nothing\> you think it's an irrational fear?
49:10 <Ampera> I know all the variables, all my options, what can happen, what cannot happen
49:16 <Nothing\> like, knowing there's no real turning back
49:17 <Ampera> It's a very rational irrational fear.
49:28 <Nothing\> i mean there is to a degree, but you'll never be the same again after it
49:33 <Ampera> No real turning back is honestly what might be what saves me
49:37 <Nothing\> i speak from experience
49:45 <Nothing\> from my testosterone therapy
49:51 <Ampera> the issue is I'm not sure if I can deal with the between here and now
49:59 <Nothing\> and that was suppsoed to be therapeutic
50:10 <Ampera> er,
50:13 <Ampera> between now and then
50:23 <Nothing\> btw
50:26 <Nothing\> beware
50:28 <Ampera> and I'm not particularly fond of the now or the then
50:33 <Nothing\> you may or may not suffer from micropenis
50:36 <Nothing\> seriously
50:41 <Ampera> It's taking it's fucking time
50:49 <Nothing\> yeah it takes a while
50:49 <Ampera> that's one of the effects I'm looking forward to
51:02 <Nothing\> the shrinking of genitals doesn't happen until about 6 months in
51:02 <Ampera> I don't give a half ounce of deep fried shit about my penis
51:09 <Nothing\> well
51:12 <Nothing\> it's kind of a bitch
51:17 <Nothing\> cuz you can't piss standing up anymore
51:25 <Nothing\> you just make an ungodly mess
51:26 <Ampera> I don't
51:31 <Nothing\> pissing all over your balls
51:37 <Ampera> sounds great
51:43 <Nothing\> oh yeah, it's a blast
51:45 <Ampera> no sarcasm
51:49 <Nothing\> wet wipe are a must
51:53 <Nothing\> oh lol
52:07 <Ampera> my penis can fuck right off, the balls along with it.
52:14 <Nothing\> but yeah i mean i'm still pretty close to my old size when erect
52:18 <Ampera> no I'm mostly upset about the social consequences
52:20 <Nothing\> but i rarely get erections anymore
52:26 <Nothing\> if ever
52:38 <Ampera> like having to figure out how the fuck I'll integrate this into my work environment, knowing it's going to creep the absolute fuck out of everyone there
52:44 <Nothing\> and flaccid, i can be as small as 1 inch
52:45 <Ampera> and that's what I hate the most about this absolute disease
52:48 <Ampera> is not that it hurts me
52:57 <Ampera> is that it hurts other people, even if it's just a momentary pause of awkwardness
53:00 <Ampera> or not knowing what to do
53:11 <Nothing\> it's weird, i was circumcised, but my penis shrinks so much it's like my foreskin came back
53:23 <Ampera> ontop of the fact that doctrine shouts at me to toss those people out like week old garbage for something I'm not too fond of myself
53:27 <Nothing\> cuz it just goes inside me and the little bit of extra skin looks like a foreskin
53:35 <Nothing\> it's weird
53:36 <steve30> sod other people
53:41 <Ampera> steve30, I don't want to
53:42 <Nothing\> lol steve30
53:45 <MrMobodies> Hello
53:45 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
53:47 <Nothing\> you came in at a weird point
53:50 <Ampera> because I don't blame anyone for being uncomfortable
53:50 <Nothing\> you too MrMobodies
53:59 <Nothing\> and heya guys <3
54:00 <Ampera> I just wish none of it had to happen
54:09 <Nothing\> Ampera, me too man
54:20 <Nothing\> it sounds like you've dealt with so much emotional tumult
54:39 <Nothing\> especially for somebody your age
54:41 <Ampera> I just wish I had a single person that wasn't a line on a screen to help me through it
54:49 <Nothing\> who, no offence, isn't fully developed mentally yet
55:00 <Ampera> meh, who gives a shit
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55:06 <Ampera> I'm not counting
55:12 <Nothing\> labels, amirite?
55:57 <Ampera> I don't want to stop and I don't want to keep going. I just want to not have to deal with this shit anymore
56:07 <Ampera> I'd even settle for just /one/ less problem in my life
56:22 <MrMobodies> One of my cousins died today, from lung cancer in New York where he lives.
56:30 <Ampera> that sucks
56:37 <Ampera> was he a smoker?
56:41 <MrMobodies> He took his own life and hanged himself... it was planned as he was selling things
56:45 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, i'm sorry to hear about that, man
56:48 <Nothing\> were you guys close?
56:53 <MrMobodies> they were treating it a month ago but after a new scan it became terminal
56:59 <MrMobodies> no not a smoker
57:07 <MrMobodies> it was asbestosis
57:11 <Nothing\> i've never had much experience with death myself, so i never know what to say to somebody who's grieving
57:15 <Ampera> oh that absolutely sucks
57:18 <MrMobodies> he did work on cars and brake pads
57:24 <Nothing\> my grandparents died this last year, that's been about it
57:36 <Nothing\> my great aunt a few years ago, but i didn't see her very much
57:44 <Nothing\> and i wasn't terribly close to my grandparents
57:59 <Ampera> it's hilarious how much I invision my own death.
58:03 <Ampera> er, envision
58:13 <Nothing\> my only memories of them are of when they started developing dementia. so i remember very little of what they were like before that. :/
58:15 <MrMobodies> invision?
58:22 <Ampera> I come up with some pretty interesting ways of it happening
58:28 <Ampera> most of it subconscious
58:38 <MrMobodies> ah expect something
58:43 <Ampera> no
58:46 <Ampera> view in your mind
58:48 <MrMobodies> oh sorry
59:01 <Nothing\> Ampera, there's at least one report of a man cutting his own head off with a chainsaw
59:11 <Ampera> Nothing\, that's a neat way to die
59:20 <Nothing\> yeah, definitely takes balls
59:25 <Ampera> or alcohol
59:26 <MrMobodies> I hope you don't do that but....
59:29 <Nothing\> self immolation would be painful as fuck
59:35 <Ampera> MrMobodies, no worries, I don't own a chainsaw
59:37 <MrMobodies> I once thought of laughing gas... the last laugh attimes
59:50 <Nothing\> i dunno about you guys, but i've had moderately sized 2nd/3rd degree burns
59:51 <Ampera> Nothing\, funnily enough that's one of the most common methods I view within my head
59:51 <MrMobodies> I could buy a large cannister for £40
59:58 <MrMobodies> but not worth it
00:00 <Nothing\> and the 2nd degree burns hurt sooooo fucking much
00:06 <Nothing\> not just when they're happening
00:18 <Ampera> the few burns I've had don't hurt when they happen they hurt after
00:20 <Nothing\> but for the entire time they heal, which takes upwards of 6 months or more
00:24 <Ampera> nice
00:42 <Nothing\> then if it's on a joint, you've gotta stretch the scar tissue with exercise
00:43 <Ampera> I think imagining death probably keeps me from doing it
00:51 <Nothing\> so you can bend the limb properly
00:57 <Nothing\> thankfully mine weren't like that
01:26 <Nothing\> i used to have a habit of turning the stove on, letting it heat up, then i'd put my arm down on it
01:34 <Ampera> Nothing\, sounds like either 6 months of hell or an opioid addiction ready to happen
01:42 <Ampera> Nothing\, gas or electric
01:47 <Ampera> presumably resistive electric
01:47 <Nothing\> or the one time i just heated up a weed pipe and burned the shit out of my arm with it
02:06 <rust_collector> well, you would be lucky if you got away with just 6 months...
02:12 <Ampera> do you think this sort of discourse is what Dave imagined when he started the EEVBlog?
02:14 <Nothing\> Ampera, if you had burns to more than like 1% of your body, you'd definitely need opiates to get by
02:17 <Nothing\> there's no question
02:22 <Nothing\> they're just so painful
02:35 <Ampera> Nothing\, the benefit of death by self immolation is you don't have to deal with any of that
02:36 <Nothing\> and you always have to change the bandages, which is even more painful
02:55 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah but you still have to deal with the pain of the burns
03:01 <Nothing\> which hurts just as bad
03:04 <rust_collector> not when you are dead
03:09 <Nothing\> not not mention breathing the hot gasses
03:09 <Ampera> ^
03:18 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah but that doesn't happen for a few minutes
03:33 <Ampera> Nothing\, depends on how close you are to the fire
03:43 <Ampera> I'm sure I could stretch it out longer
03:50 <Nothing\> actually with the witches that were burned at the stake, most of them died from smoke inhalation or were at least rendered unconscious before they actually died
03:55 <rust_collector> you can do a lot of stuff for a few minutes. and I guess most people would simply pass out, and burn
04:42 <Nothing\> Ampera, you know those massage tables with the hole in the headrest for your face?
04:52 <Nothing\> you lie on it and put your face in the hole
04:58 <Ampera> know of them? yes. Used one? No.
05:30 <Nothing\> one thing i always wondered. one of those maccabre type thoughts...
05:51 <Nothing\> is if you put somebody on one of those, then put a candle right under their forehead
05:54 <Nothing\> what would happen?
06:16 <Ampera> face bacon
06:39 <Nothing\> would it burn a hole through to their brain or would the skull stop it and absorb the heat, essentially cooking the brain from the inside out
06:48 <rust_collector> if it was cheap candles, they would have a lot of soot in their face
06:56 <Nothing\> and what effects that would have on the person strapped to the table
07:13 <Ampera> Nothing\, mmm, brain soup
07:28 <Ampera> with a nice base of cerebral fluid
07:47 <Ampera> Nothing\, do you want me to burst your bubble?
07:52 <Ampera> you could just blow the candle out
08:28 <Nothing\> rust_collector, it's not a matter of how cheap it is but more what it's made of. chemicals with lots of carbon will produce a very sooty flame and the wax that candles are made of, paraffin are very long chains of hydrocarbons. So it would stand to reason it would produce a very sooty flame
08:47 <rust_collector> oh really
08:51 <MrMobodies> I have a joke
08:56 <Nothing\> if you look up a video of bezene or acetylene burning, you can see this effect nicely
08:58 <Ampera> MrMobodies, I heard it before.
09:03 <MrMobodies> Bonfire night last night, no fireworks
09:13 <MrMobodies> so I took a can: filled it with Bamboo and set it alight
09:28 <MrMobodies> here the noise but no fireworks
09:35 <Nothing\> rust_collector, in fact, the orange part of a flame isn't even the flame. it's incandescent particles of carbon (soot) that are given off from the reaction
09:36 <MrMobodies> I was burning some stuff in the back
09:45 <Nothing\> the actual flame is the blue part
10:12 <rust_collector> do you have much bamboo there?
10:22 <MrMobodies> Heard it before; I see mine are becoming predictacble
10:46 <MrMobodies> even the bot knows what I am going to say
10:51 <Nothing\> rust_collector, not really. you can buy plants at the store but that's about it
10:54 <Ampera> what I don't get about bonfire night is why people set fireworks off on it
10:59 <Ampera> and not have bonfires
11:04 <Nothing\> i'd like to grow bamboo, though.
11:10 * Ampera burries Nothing\ up to his head, waters him
11:11 <Nothing\> i love the idea of how fast it grows.
11:19 <Nothing\> something like 3cm a day
11:29 * Nothing\ sprouts a Nothing\ tree
11:36 <MrMobodies> well when I get enough rubbish I have one bonfire in my bin or incinrator
11:42 * Nothing\ breaks into song
11:45 <MrMobodies> nice in thid cold weather
11:54 <Nothing\> HAVE YOU SEEN MY Nothing\ TREE?
12:10 <MrMobodies> no I haven't please show
12:21 <rust_collector> oh no, now you will have that stuck in your brain for at least a week, lol
12:22 <Nothing\> it's been beautiful weather here MrMobodies
12:24 <MrMobodies> I had lots of cardboard from packaging which I burn't last night after the bamboos
12:28 <Nothing\> was up around 20c
12:41 <MrMobodies> that's warm it is 7c here
12:44 <Nothing\> amazing for canada in november
12:58 <Ampera> fuck canada, stoopid cuntry
12:59 <MrMobodies> and as we are in lockdown for a month a bit lonely
13:06 <Nothing\> though in fairness, this is about the most southerly part of canada you can get
13:07 <Ampera> fucking LEEFS
13:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, say that once the northwest passage opens up
13:42 <Nothing\> we wen't be so stupid then
13:49 <MrMobodies> I have family in Canada (who are not Canadian born) and yes, they seem a bit strange to me.
13:52 <Nothing\> everyone will be begging us for rights to use it
14:03 <MrMobodies> they would be a traffic jam caused by two women fighting each other
14:03 <Ampera> ur still a leef
14:06 <MrMobodies> over road rage
14:08 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, oh yeah? where abouts?
14:11 <MrMobodies> every time we went shopping
14:21 <MrMobodies> Toronta Canada in 1998
14:26 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'm about as americanized as a cannuck can get
14:28 <Ampera> i love toronta
14:35 <Ampera> best part of canoodia
14:35 <MrMobodies> Etobicoke I thibk
14:42 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, right on. i've been there
14:52 <Ampera> I've been to 1998 too
14:54 <Ampera> shit country
14:56 <Ampera> really terrible food
14:57 <Nothing\> there's a school there i had 2 friends go to
14:59 <MrMobodies> couldn't go out there as I was told and shown someone got stabbed in a park next to them
15:03 <Ampera> the people were dumb as cock
15:07 <Nothing\> i think it was brock university
15:12 <MrMobodies> they have those silly string things
15:24 <Ampera> Nothing\, that must have been a killer place to be when pokemon was a thing
15:24 <MrMobodies> it caused the grandchildren to go bezerk everytime they ate them
15:38 <Nothing\> i wouldn't know
15:42 <MrMobodies> and that Canadtian dry? drink
15:52 <Ampera> canadian dry is a very wet drink
15:52 <Nothing\> Ampera, i took a trip there for grade 8. it was pretty cool
15:54 <MrMobodies> it's cheese shapped round
16:01 <Nothing\> we got to see the welland canals
16:08 <Ampera> haha you said anal
16:08 <MrMobodies> the cheese things they ate
16:15 <Some_Person> Never been to Canada
16:21 <MrMobodies> joke:... missed ylzer
16:25 <Ampera> Some_Person, it's just snow mexico
16:38 <Some_Person> Ampera: Really? I've been to Mexico, and I doubt that
16:51 <Ampera> yeah, drugs, hookers, drug empires
16:51 <Ampera> the lot
17:08 <Ampera> they even have their own kinda tequila, but it's brown, sticky, and burns your throat
17:10 <MrMobodies> hookers? women who spend a night for a fee?
17:11 <Ampera> it's also non-alcoholic
17:34 <MrMobodies> I would never pay anyone for that
17:34 <Ampera> hook, line, and sinkers
17:47 <Nothing\> the welland canal is an amazing feat of engineering
17:49 <Ampera> hooker sounds like a fun job until it isn't
17:52 <Ampera> haha you said anal
18:04 <Nothing\> it's like the panama canal in that they have a lock based elevator system
18:10 <Nothing\> so it's like an elevator for boats
18:12 <Ampera> haha you said anal
18:32 <Nothing\> each one lifts or lowers a shift by 50 feet
18:44 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol i used to see that any time i saw the word analog
18:49 <Ampera> haha you said anal
18:52 <Nothing\> except it's like
18:54 <Nothing\> anal log
18:58 <Ampera> haha you said anal
19:11 <Nothing\> is that a script?
19:24 <Ampera> is what a script
19:25 <Nothing\> anal
19:29 <Ampera> haha you said anal
19:31 <Some_Person> I was on a bus in Matamoros once and someone get on carrying a couple of chickens
19:37 <MrMobodies> anaylizer
19:38 <Nothing\> nah i thought you saying haha you said anal was a script
19:42 <MrMobodies> oops analyzer
19:43 <Ampera> haha you said anal
19:45 <Nothing\> cuz you were so consistent
19:45 <Ampera> I am?
19:52 <Ampera> wha
20:04 <Ampera> when did I say that
20:25 <Nothing\> banal
20:29 <Ampera> haha you said anal
20:40 <Nothing\> :PY
21:00 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
21:04 <Ampera> I have a headache
21:08 <Nothing\> i'm starting to realize there are a lot of words with the word "anal" in them
21:11 * Ampera eats a naproxen
21:13 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
21:13 <Ampera> haha you said anal
21:15 <Nothing\> aww man
21:21 <Nothing\> take some caffeine
21:27 <Nothing\> not a lot
21:28 <Ampera> no thanks I'd quite like to sleep
21:34 <Nothing\> like half a coffee
21:36 <Nothing\> or a can of soda
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21:45 <Ampera> coffee gives me nausea and I have no soda
22:21 <Nothing\> see when you get a headache, most of the time what's going on is the blood vessels surrounding your brain, on the outside of your head will dilate, which puts pressure on surrounding tissue, causing pain.
22:50 <Ampera> sounds like a job for an nsaid
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23:09 <Nothing\> if you have a small amount of caffeine, it will cause an effect called vasoconstriction where, surprise surprise, these blood vessels constrict, relieving the pressure and thus the pain.
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23:32 <MrMobodies> I got disconnected
23:38 <rust_collector> yes
23:42 <Ampera> no
23:46 <Nothing\> that's why you see some formulations with tylenol/acetaminophen/apap/paracetamol some of them will contain caffeine
23:51 <MrMobodies> no?
23:52 <Nothing\> because it has this effect
23:58 <MrMobodies> oh
24:03 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, aye you did
24:11 <Nothing\> you a split second
24:15 <MrMobodies> the connection just dropped on my end
24:17 <Ampera> no
24:29 <Nothing\> Ampera, they're all gonna laugh at you
24:32 <Nothing\> noooooo
24:48 <Nothing\> lol that album was the shit back in the day
24:56 <Nothing\> back when adam sandler was actually funny
24:59 <Ampera> Nothing\, is it any better now?
25:08 <Nothing\> what's that?
25:13 <Ampera> you said it was shit back in the day
25:18 <Ampera> is it any better now?
25:21 <Nothing\> what was?
25:23 <Ampera> idk
25:25 <Nothing\> i'm confused
25:28 <Ampera> good
25:33 <rust_collector> tylenol/acetaminophen/apap/paracetamol probably
25:37 <MrMobodies> "shit back in the day?"
25:41 <rust_collector> that was a crap song
25:44 <MrMobodies> oh the above
25:56 <Ampera> rust_collector, the band was even worse
26:05 <rust_collector> butt....
26:16 <Nothing\> ah, well tylenol is a pretty shit pain reliever tbh. it doesn't have any anti-inflammatory properties. so if your pain is related to inflammation, it won't help you there.
26:35 <Ampera> I also took some paracetamol with my naproxen
26:36 <Nothing\> it just blocks the chemical messengers that indicate you're in pain. Or some of them anyways.
26:45 <Nothing\> yeah you can do that safely
26:49 <Ampera> penis
27:00 <MrMobodies> but I hope I didn't upset anyone with my joke.
27:01 <Nothing\> since acetaminophen/paracetamol isn't an anti
27:08 <Ampera> MrMobodies, I'm pissed
27:15 <MrMobodies> I noticed a lot of traffic from mIrc with the lights flashing
27:21 <MrMobodies> but only two connections
27:23 <Nothing\> -inflammatory you can safely mix it with an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen or naproxen
27:28 <Nothing\> or aspirin
27:29 <MrMobodies> sorry Ampera for the joke
27:39 <Ampera> MrMobodies, your apology just makes me more mad
27:40 <Nothing\> but never EVER mix anti-inflammatories
27:43 <Ampera> apologize for your apology
27:56 <MrMobodies> may I ask how?
27:56 <Ampera> Nothing\, couldn't hear you over the sound of me downing the bottle of aspirin
28:03 <MrMobodies> so I don't annoy you further
28:06 <Ampera> MrMobodies, wow you don't even know how to say sorry
28:18 <rust_collector> those brits...
28:22 <MrMobodies> I do feel bad because I don't know how I upset people
28:33 <Nothing\> overdosing on aspirin would be a very painful and unpleasant way to go
28:45 <Nothing\> first off, it's ototoxic so it destroys hearing cells in your ears
28:45 <MrMobodies> until they explain
28:46 <Ampera> Nothing\, better round out my chances with the bottle of naproxen and paracetamol too
28:51 <Nothing\> causes permanent tinnitus
28:56 <Ampera> and the diphenhydramine
28:58 <Ampera> buh
28:59 <Nothing\> and/or hearing loss
29:01 <Ampera> maybe I should go get some milk for this
29:10 <MrMobodies> I have something in my ear
29:21 <Ampera> MrMobodies, we all do
29:21 <MrMobodies> a sound in my right ear
29:30 <rust_collector> I hope it is not some insect
29:30 <Ampera> we all have that as well
29:36 <Nothing\> then the aspirin weakens the protective mucus coating in your stomach, allowing your stomach acid to attack it
29:38 <Ampera> rust_collector, that'd bug you now wouldn't it
29:39 <Nothing\> which is very painful
29:45 <rust_collector> yeah
29:46 <Ampera> Nothing\, sounds like a hoot
29:53 <MrMobodies> when it is quiet I hear a humming sound
29:56 <Nothing\> and it thins your blood to the point where you bleed out from these ulcerations
30:02 <Ampera> nice
30:06 <Ampera> I always wanted to bleed out
30:09 <MrMobodies> it happened when I thought I was having a heart attack from poisioning in 2017
30:17 <MrMobodies> along with the vision artifacts
30:25 <Ampera> MrMobodies, were you having a heart attack?
30:37 <MrMobodies> it turned out to be sleeping tablets lowering my heart beat
30:47 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, yeah i've had tinnitus in my right ear for years i haven't been able to trace the source of
30:55 <Nothing\> just my right ear
30:56 <MrMobodies> I had a cold then
30:59 <Ampera> Nothing\, you just said you could
31:01 <Ampera> your right ear
31:02 <rust_collector> I do know a guy who died from his stomach somehow rupturing. that was weird
31:02 <Ampera> congrats
31:03 <MrMobodies> and lowering the heart beat did something to me
31:25 <Ampera> rust_collector, when grandma says you can eat one more bite it'll be the last bite you ever eat
31:29 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
31:33 <MrMobodies> and since then when it is quiet in my right hear I hear this hum, vision artifacts and ghosting
31:34 <Ampera> PENIS
31:50 <Nothing\> they did an MRI because apparently it can sometimes be caused by a tumour. They, incidentally found out that I had suffered from an unrelated stroke at some point. but no tumour or explanation for the tinnitus
32:13 <MrMobodies> Penis. Willy?
32:14 <Nothing\> it's weird, they broughtt me back to confirm the lesion they found was caused by a stroke
32:15 <rust_collector> If my grandma says anything, I guess it is too late to worry about that, lol
32:17 <MrMobodies> for going to toilet
32:21 <Nothing\> but that was as far sa they looked into it
32:23 <MrMobodies> am I missing something?
32:27 <Ampera> cocks
32:28 <Ampera> penises
32:30 <Ampera> dicks
32:34 <Ampera> massive whopping schlongs
32:39 <Nothing\> they didn't bother finding out what caused the stroke or when it happened or anything
32:57 <MrMobodies> you remind me of an shop keeper in a sketch telling me different names for the same thing.
33:07 <MrMobodies> an old fashioned one
33:14 <Ampera> MrMobodies, was it monty's python by any chance?
33:14 <Nothing\> btw whenever it happened, i was either unconscious, too messed up to notice or i just had no symptoms. cuz this lesion was from an old stroke
33:22 <MrMobodies> possibly
33:29 <Nothing\> and i didn't notice a single thing whenever i had it
33:38 <MrMobodies> two ronnies I think
33:40 <arch> the brain has some self healing properties
33:58 <Ampera> arch, the brain is a NERD
34:58 <rust_collector> the two rodneys were the guys going up a hill?
34:59 <Nothing\> arch, that and not all strokes or brain injuries have obvious symptoms. Sometimes it can just cause personality changes and things of that nature that aren't as obvious as say, the left half of your body being paralyzed
35:27 <Nothing\> but yeah, i'm sure my brain healed itself as well
35:44 <Nothing\> i've taken various neuroprotective substances on and off. maybe that had something to do with it
35:47 <Nothing\> who knows
36:15 <Ampera> I do
36:19 <Ampera> I know exactly what happened
37:17 <MrMobodies> I thought of something... Someone said a long time ago at school "Mis he's doing me head in" and I said "What with? a hammer" and they went mad too.
37:54 <MrMobodies> If I annoy someone I'd always apologize.
37:56 <Ampera> MrMobodies, you seem to like making people mad
38:21 <MrMobodies> I have a condition where I can saw the wrong things and misunderstand people
38:22 <Halcyon> You do too Ampera
38:30 <MrMobodies> so please forgive me attmes
38:31 <Halcyon> :P
38:37 <Ampera> Halcyon, no you're thinking of making people sad
38:38 <MrMobodies> it makes me sad too
38:39 <Ampera> that's what I like
38:43 <Ampera> haha yay
38:46 * Ampera hugs MrMobodies 
38:52 * Halcyon smacks Ampera
38:57 <Ampera> harder daddy
39:28 * Ampera kisses Halcyon 
40:01 <Halcyon> :P
40:05 <Halcyon> I'm going to the shops
40:17 <Ampera> Halcyon, please buy me
40:18 <rust_collector> buy some fork handles
40:23 <Halcyon> Fork handles?
40:27 <Ampera> rust_collector, what about the rest of the fork
40:37 <rust_collector> ask MrMobodies about that
40:56 <Ampera> MrMobodies, GIVE ME THE REST OF MY FORKS YOU THIEF
41:10 <MrMobodies> sorry I don't understand.
41:12 * Ampera shakes MrMobodies like a rag doll
41:18 <Ampera> I DON'T UNDERSTAND EITHER
41:18 <MrMobodies> the proble I have is called semantic pragmatic disoder where I see mostly eveything is literal unless someone explains
41:23 <Ampera> DO YOU THINK I WANT TO BE DOING THIS?
41:25 <rust_collector> four candles!
41:28 <Ampera> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I WANT TO BE DOING
41:32 <MrMobodies> so if you can explain jokes that will make me happy
41:41 <Halcyon> I don't get it either MrMobodies
41:47 <MrMobodies> oh
41:57 <Ampera> the joke is there is no joke, only poke
42:00 * Ampera pokes Halcyon 
42:12 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, you mentioned 2ronnies...
42:29 * Ampera sneezes
42:31 * Ampera sneezes again
42:34 * Halcyon coughs on Ampera
42:36 <MrMobodies> greasy forks(food shops) fork (different code release based on some older package)
42:36 * Ampera sneezes again again
42:40 <MrMobodies> yes the shop scene
42:44 <rust_collector> right
42:49 <Ampera> Halcyon, don't give me your gay
42:51 <Ampera> I don't want to be gay
43:00 <Halcyon> :P
43:14 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbGMS5jQFcs&feature=emb_title
43:14 <Ampera> I don't wanna go to hell, I'm already in it because of how gay I am
43:20 <Ampera> if I'm more gay I'll go to even more hell
43:26 <MrMobodies> oh wrong one
43:49 <rust_collector> oh well
43:53 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7LKJXvf_do
43:53 <Ampera> this is what happens when I'm tired, depressed, bored, and have a headache
43:58 <Ampera> I turn into a raving lunatic
44:10 <Ampera> unfortunately I've yet to turn back from the first time
46:13 <MrMobodies> I am sorting my workshop out, but last night I segregated all the ports on the switches. Tightly control everything
46:31 <MrMobodies> so Chrome can't pick up the lounge tv and that
46:48 <MrMobodies> i found an easy way to do it by altering the config file
47:16 <MrMobodies> so that relieved me a bit
47:34 <MrMobodies> set a few vlans up and duplicate the text
47:52 <MrMobodies> the built in web interface seems slow for that sort of thing
48:20 <MrMobodies> it is one of those cheap Netgear GS748 switches
48:34 <MrMobodies> the ones with the glitches on it
49:40 <MrMobodies> just testing the Areca controller... really quick for large transfers
49:53 <MrMobodies> but for disc imaging it seems slower at small operations
50:36 * rust_collector is eating his lunch
50:37 <MrMobodies> 30 minutes for a 20gb file (SAS 6GBPS) and 11 minutes on a laptop (sata300)
50:48 <MrMobodies> a little disappointed
51:20 <MrMobodies> on my cheapo ssd it can do 500 megabytes a second but slow with small files
51:26 <rust_collector> is 20gb a small operation?
51:33 <Halcyon> Nah
51:38 <MrMobodies> I thought by the standards yes
51:42 <Halcyon> It does seem slow though
51:49 <MrMobodies> if I copy the 20gb file it will go at 500mb
52:00 <MrMobodies> if I extract it to the drive 30mbs
52:10 <MrMobodies> and hardly any cpu usage in operation
52:30 <MrMobodies> view a pictures it seems slower when seeking between them
52:36 <MrMobodies> on the controller
52:44 <Halcyon> Sequencial reads/writes are normally very quick
52:56 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
52:56 <Ampera> <3
53:28 <MrMobodies> I have it in write back mode
53:37 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
53:39 <Halcyon> I'll be back soon
53:40 <MrMobodies> tried it with tagged command queueing off an don
53:44 <MrMobodies> no different
54:06 <MrMobodies> and thru seems a little quicker for small stuff
54:14 <MrMobodies> oops *write through
54:29 <MrMobodies> but very quick to low level format drives
54:56 <MrMobodies> I think it just need a bit of tuning somewhere
57:57 <MrMobodies> I'll do some tests and compare the difference
59:00 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
09:05 <MrMobodies> oh it aint doing it, Crystal disc benchmark keeps going in a loop
10:08 <MrMobodies> preparing "sequential write... random write. 1 to 5
17:46 <MrMobodies> stupid me I turned on "write protect"
17:47 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/JTXyT4x.jpg
17:56 <MrMobodies> I thought it disables cache
18:11 <MrMobodies> write protection
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20:58 <arch> anyone know what kinda header this is? https://i.imgur.com/vTv2bGt.jpg
21:07 <arch> i mean what the connector model is
21:13 <arch> it's an LVDS header, that i know for sure
22:53 <MrMobodies> I have seen those before on certain motherboards
23:31 <arch> yeah, this one is from a DX4000. they're usually found in small POS terminal type boards
23:37 <arch> SoC boars
23:39 <arch> boards*
28:20 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oilM7POV-PA
28:24 <MrMobodies> looks like they are similar
28:33 <MrMobodies> https://youtu.be/oilM7POV-PA?t=209
28:47 <arch> yes, because that is the board i have lol. i mean what connector it is
28:56 <arch> Hirose, or JST, etc
32:08 <arch> MrMobodies, http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2691068.pdf is the one
32:10 <MrMobodies> it looks like something to me like a ribbon connector, I am just looking to see if that is used elsewhere
32:11 <MrMobodies> 4060-705100-003
32:13 <arch> someone on #kicad got it
32:25 <arch> now i know your credit card number muahaha
32:39 * arch orders massive alien tentacles using MrMobodies's card
41:54 <MrMobodies> £377 for one of those from China
41:55 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/264725325406?chn=ps
42:57 <arch> bullshit. i got 3 of those from the dumpster, cuz the LAN ICs fail so often, it's not even funny
43:27 <arch> and they fail because the shitty buck regulator fails, Richtek RT8259, really sucks ass
43:35 <Nothing\> man i just can't beat 150cc mode in mario kart 8 for the life of me
43:43 <Nothing\> i beat the first cup and that's it
44:05 <Nothing\> second one, i've been played several times a day for the last week and still keep failing miserably
44:51 <Nothing\> it's like, you need to do a perfect run. and of course a good percentage of the time i'll have a perfect run, be just about ready to cross the finish line
45:32 <Nothing\> then BAM i get hit with a shell or other item, 4 other racers overtake me while i recover and i endup not even placing in the top 3rd
46:52 <MrMobodies> and only a small pci-e slot.
46:53 <Nothing\> hrm what to do
47:10 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, that'd be a pci 2x i believe
47:33 <Nothing\> never was quite sure what sorts of devices would use those
48:32 <Nothing\> or pci-e
48:37 <Nothing\> depending on the board's vintage
49:34 <Nothing\> ugh i hate these channels that are like
49:48 <Nothing\> "everything you wanted to know about X topic as fast as possible"
49:57 <Nothing\> or in n minutes
51:25 <Nothing\> i'm sorry but i'd rather spend the extra few mimutes and learn it proper than half ass the learning process, then potentially misuse a skill or piece of equipment for years until I finally find out by chance what I could have found out if I'd just learned about it properly in the first place
53:12 <Halcyon> Oh nice, Big Clive is carbonating Aussie red wine
56:40 <Nothing\> lol right on
57:10 <Nothing\> i dunno if it's me, or their content. but i've sort of gravitated away from big clive and dave lately
57:21 <Halcyon> Aw :(
57:30 <Nothing\> it's probably me cuz in fairness i have also been gravitating away from electronics
57:44 <Halcyon> I think Dave is due to do another mailbag soon, he has a shelf full of items again
57:56 <Nothing\> his mailbags never fail to disappoint
58:06 <Nothing\> thta's one thing i'll givee him great credit for
58:10 <Halcyon> I love the intesting mix of items, it's like christmas
58:52 <Halcyon> But somehow, Dave's is the only mailbag I like. I don't enjoy LGR's or 8 Bit Guy's mailbag. It's more like "Look at all this cool, free stuff people sent me"
58:54 <Nothing\> yeah it just sucks when he goes on about one you're not interested in for an especially long time
59:01 <Nothing\> i mean, sure you could skip past it
59:13 <Nothing\> but that's not in the spirit of the videos i feel
59:35 <Halcyon> He has been getting better, especially since he started doing "2 minute teardowns"
59:42 <Halcyon> He doesn't waffle on about one thing for too long
59:48 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yeah tbh i've never watched anyone else's mailbag
59:59 <Nothing\> i didn't even know any of those people had mailbag videos
00:10 <Halcyon> Yeh they do occasionally, but you aren't really missing much
00:23 <Nothing\> lol yeah
00:26 <Nothing\> 2 minute teardown
00:32 <Nothing\> 20 minutes later he's still on about it
00:40 <Nothing\> though in fairness, sometimes that's a plus
00:50 <Nothing\> it's hit or miss for me
00:57 <Halcyon> Heh
01:56 <Nothing\> but like i said i think that's just due to a downtick in my consumption and participation in electronics related media and activitities
02:09 <Halcyon> Too much of a good thing is bad sometimes
02:20 <Nothing\> indeed
02:29 <Halcyon> I do enjoy John Ward, especially just before bed. He has a rather calm, soothing voice
02:46 <Nothing\> my meds have been causing memory problems so it's been making it difficult to retain as much knowledge as i used to
03:23 <Nothing\> and they also seem to have caused me to not get as much enjoyment out of them. Though I at least still play around with CircuitMod once in a while
11:48 <Nothing\> bah, mother's having trouble with wish.com
11:55 <MrMobodies> just did the tests
12:04 <MrMobodies> ooohh wish.com I heard terrible things about it
12:07 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/MjcHDfC
12:09 <Nothing\> they keey rejecting her address while giving vague error messages that don't help at all
12:18 <Nothing\> so i told her to go to amazon
12:25 <MrMobodies> very misleading from the Areca 1883 controll and that's why I wanted to turn off cache
12:48 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, HDD speeds?
13:52 <MrMobodies> yes, the top one always reports 5000mb (I think that is the caching on the controller) and I have been trying to switch it off)
14:23 <Nothing\> ah so you think or you are getting spurious readings?
14:45 <MrMobodies> I had this before with a different controller
15:04 <MrMobodies> except I was able to turn off the cache when I was testing the speed of the drive I think it affected the write
15:12 <MrMobodies> but this one seems to affect both
15:35 <Nothing\> perhaps it uses the cache for reading as well
15:36 * Ampera sneezes
15:42 * Ampera sneezes
15:44 <Nothing\> it would make sense
15:47 * Ampera sneezes
15:48 <MrMobodies> read header (auto) 512k to 16m) no way to turn it off
15:54 <Nothing\> bless you, Ampera
16:01 <Ampera> Nothing\, ah to hell with you too
16:08 <Nothing\> <3
16:10 <MrMobodies> oh sorry there is in the wrong page
16:19 <Ampera> I'm bored
16:29 <Ampera> one of you entertain me somehow >:(
16:44 <Ampera> or I beat Halcyon up
16:47 <MrMobodies> okay. I took out some ice cream
16:51 <MrMobodies> cartedoor
17:00 <MrMobodies> salt caramel
17:08 <MrMobodies> and took a large lump and gobbled it down
17:13 <MrMobodies> then it throttled me for a bit
17:20 <Nothing\> mmmm
17:20 <MrMobodies> I couldn't breathe for a few seconds
17:36 <Nothing\> salted caramel is the best
17:42 <MrMobodies> throttled by ice cream
18:08 <MrMobodies> so tasty I couldn't help myself
18:13 <Nothing\> except i just fucked up one of my teeth last week eating a caramel
18:21 <MrMobodies> oh dear
18:30 <MrMobodies> was it hard caramel?
18:44 <Nothing\> it was already cracked in half, but the caramel pulled the half of my tooth that wasn't attached so well out
19:01 <Nothing\> -my tooth was cracked, that is
19:10 <MrMobodies> oh it made it worse
19:11 <Nothing\> not sure what cracked it
19:24 <Nothing\> yeha
19:24 <MrMobodies> Ampera, in what way can I entertain you?
19:38 <Nothing\> either made it worse, or just helped that bit of teeth come out
19:57 <MrMobodies> did you sort it and have it fixed?
20:02 <Nothing\> but either way i'm probably gonna lose that tooth cuz i don't think there's much left of it
20:11 <Nothing\> -not even enough to make a crown
20:23 <MrMobodies> oh
20:43 <Nothing\> which sucks cuz that's like my second last premolar on the bottom left
21:05 <MrMobodies> I always try to brush my teeth an hour after I eat
21:08 <Nothing\> so i'll probably need a partial denture after that one comes out
21:49 <Nothing\> i brush twice a day, but i also rinse my mouth out with water after meals that leaves a lot of debris behind
22:14 <Nothing\> but my mouth's really dry all the time, so my teeth rot like i'm on meth
22:24 <MrMobodies> ahh it was the drugs
22:29 <MrMobodies> crystal meth
22:33 <Nothing\> no no
22:38 <Nothing\> i don't use meth
22:40 <MrMobodies> medical meth?
22:43 <Nothing\> i was just comparing it to that
22:54 <Nothing\> i use methadone
23:01 <Nothing\> prescription
23:08 <Nothing\> and that gives me the dry mouth
23:12 <MrMobodies> what's that for?
23:13 <Nothing\> but not methamphetamine
23:16 <MrMobodies> methadone
23:23 <Nothing\> cuz i'm addicted to opioids
23:40 <MrMobodies> and i think I read earlier you are ordered? to take them
23:41 <Nothing\> i got sick of street drugs so i went on methadone
23:51 <Nothing\> nah
23:56 <Nothing\> i can stop if i want
24:12 <Ampera> I'm hungry
24:24 <Nothing\> but i don't have much choice cuz the withdrawal is literally worse pain than most can imagine
24:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, got a toaster oven?
24:41 <Ampera> no
24:47 <Nothing\> aw that sucks
24:51 <Ampera> why
25:01 <Ampera> I have a toaster like a normal person
25:09 <Ampera> no bread though
26:03 * Ampera throws a noodle at Nothing\ 
26:04 <Nothing\> best snack is bagels (or just bread) with either garlic butter or a combination of butter and garlic salt, then slices of marble cheddar on top cooked until the bagel's nice and crispy
26:11 <Nothing\> homemade garlic bread
26:26 <Ampera> yeah I don't have bagels nor bread
26:37 <Ampera> otherwise I could do that in an actual oven
26:37 <Nothing\> a new yorker without bagels?
26:43 <Ampera> I ate them all
26:48 <Nothing\> ah
26:49 <Ampera> actually that's a lie, I threw them out
26:49 <Nothing\> heh
26:56 <Nothing\> mold, huh
26:57 <Ampera> because the shop I bought them up managed to fuck them up
26:59 <Ampera> no
27:02 <Nothing\> oh
27:04 <Ampera> they were baked wrong
27:14 <Ampera> like, if you bake bread but don't let it rise enough
27:15 <Nothing\> mine always go moldy before i can finish them
27:22 <Ampera> you basically end up with a dense, collapsed, disgusting loaf
27:25 <Ampera> imagine that, but a bagel
27:34 <Ampera> and these were the baked-in-store nice bagels
27:48 <MrMobodies> I have these supermarket bakers, which everything is mass produced and doesnt
27:54 <Nothing\> it's koshcher lol
27:59 <MrMobodies> taste good, I call some of them "the fakery"
28:16 <Nothing\> Ampera, man i envy you though
28:17 <MrMobodies> especially when it comes to chocolate eclairs where they's hardly any chocolate in them
28:23 <Nothing\> to have bread from an actual bakery
28:31 <Nothing\> there's nothing better than fresh baked bread
28:34 <Ampera> do you not have bakeries in canada?
28:42 <Nothing\> unfortunately my mom's scared of cooking with yeast
28:48 <Nothing\> Ampera, not aronud here, no
28:55 <Nothing\> we did where i used to live
28:55 <Ampera> the supermarket bakeries are meh, we have actual ones
29:04 <Ampera> not that I've ever been to them, but they're probably less meh
29:05 <Nothing\> but i was in a bad way at that time
29:17 * Halcyon punches Ampera in the boob
29:33 <Ampera> Halcyon, which one
29:43 <Halcyon> Pick your favourite
30:20 <Nothing\> the bigger one
30:25 <Nothing\> there's always a bigger one
30:32 <Nothing\> that's the master boob
30:45 <Nothing\> the slave boob is the smaller one and must do everything the master boob commands it
30:51 <Ampera> I'm not sure, they're too small to tell at the moment
31:06 <Ampera> potentially my left one
31:46 <Nothing\> i'm glad i'm broke
31:51 <Halcyon> Nothing\, is that the same as testicles?
31:53 <Nothing\> cuz last night i almost bought super mario run
32:13 <Nothing\> Halcyon, absolutely
32:31 * Ampera punches Halcyon in the larger testicle
33:00 <Halcyon> Bitch
33:00 <Nothing\> there's always teste whose vas deferans gets preferential treatment and is more likely to impregnate the woman. this is is the alpha teste
33:10 <Halcyon> You could at least caress them first
33:19 <Nothing\> lol btw this is all bullshit just in case anyone thinks otherwise
33:26 <Nothing\> not true at all
33:40 <Nothing\> i mean, i don't want to be insulting
33:41 <Halcyon> :P
33:45 * Ampera caresses Halcyon then punches him in the face
33:49 <Nothing\> but you never know with the internet these days
33:58 <MrMobodies> I like looking at bullshit, but not buying it.
34:08 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, ditto
34:13 <MrMobodies> only when I know what to expect
34:23 <MrMobodies> when I am looking at it
34:44 <MrMobodies> I noticed in the city areas like London
34:47 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, that's why i still read alien abduction stories and stuff like that even though i know it's very probably not true
34:56 <Nothing\> it's just fun/interesting stories
35:12 <MrMobodies> Estate agents seem to "stretch" images so a wide screen becomes wider
35:21 <Nothing\> like the betty and barney hill case where they take them up and show them a map of a star system that they draw under hypnosis later
35:40 <Nothing\> and it ends up being a star system that isn't discovered until some time after the incident
36:08 <Halcyon> Holy fuck label maker cassettes are expensive
36:13 <MrMobodies> Alien abductions to keep the mind busy with fear and paranohia
36:35 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, i used to be terrified of alien abduction as a child
37:04 <MrMobodies> joke: some schools could do the same. change a child forever.
37:35 <Nothing\> i know that first hand
38:17 <MrMobodies> I envy those who are fearless
39:23 <Nothing\> is there any difference between being fearless and being foolish?
39:41 <MrMobodies> yes I should have specified fearless but not foolish or selfish
40:22 <Nothing\> right, no worries
40:36 <MrMobodies> I miss the pub
40:44 <MrMobodies> opened from Wednesday to Sunday
41:13 <MrMobodies> I only have half a pint of weak beer full of ice, some coke also with full of ice
41:20 <MrMobodies> and a coffee with some baileys
41:28 <MrMobodies> but I go there to hear what day people had
41:49 <MrMobodies> a lot of them seem to be struggling with the lockdown
42:01 <MrMobodies> as they own their own businesses
42:21 <Nothing\> i can imagine
42:38 <MrMobodies> one of them is divorced and has a mortgage to pay
42:54 <MrMobodies> he had no choice but to accept a job in Switzerland
43:16 <Nothing\> i think i'm probably about the only person who's benefitted from this covid-19 stuff and especially the lockdown
43:16 <MrMobodies> it was dodgy and he didn't want to go ahead as they kept on reducing he amount and changing the terms
44:15 <Nothing\> but it sucks seeing the effect it's having on everyone else in the real world
44:38 <MrMobodies> the previous occupant owns land around here and is trying to sell it
44:56 <MrMobodies> as huge inflated prices
45:03 <Nothing\> i'd have just backed out
45:09 <MrMobodies> they have an entertainment business which isn't going to operate on a lockdown
45:21 <Nothing\> that sounds like something isn't right
45:29 <MrMobodies> he was already in debt which forced him to sell
45:36 <Nothing\> damn
45:43 <MrMobodies> debt being because he needed a lot of land to store his thing
45:59 <MrMobodies> he found somewhere, very cheap but here's the catch
46:09 <MrMobodies> it is on a level 3 flood zone
46:19 <MrMobodies> can be flooded by rivers of the sea
46:43 <Nothing\> i guess i'm lucky in that way, all my loans and lines of credit that i defaulted on years ago have been wiped clean by the statute of limitations
46:43 <MrMobodies> he owns some properties around here and is leasing them some making a bit of money
46:55 <Nothing\> but it wasn't more than a few thousand
46:59 <MrMobodies> I see, you have nothing to loose.
47:08 <Nothing\> back then i didn't
47:12 <MrMobodies> you are clean too
47:24 <MrMobodies> whether others are going through the shock or loosing a lot more
47:53 <Nothing\> but yeah i have no debts no loans or mortgages or lines of credit anymore
48:13 <Nothing\> i live on my cash and nothing more
48:16 <MrMobodies> "with a loan people moan"
48:34 <Nothing\> man i got in with so many payday loans for drugs lol
48:34 <MrMobodies> I don't want a loan or to be tied down with anything
49:02 <Nothing\> i'd take out a loan and give them false information and default of it
49:11 <MrMobodies> oh
49:25 <Nothing\> like, payday loan
49:26 <MrMobodies> you sound to nice for that. I hope you don't get caught out.
49:30 <Nothing\> not actual bank loan
49:37 <MrMobodies> oh loan sharks
49:40 <Nothing\> oh this was back before i got on methadone
50:01 <Nothing\> and i was spending everything i had and then some just for the sake of staving off withdrawal
50:35 <MrMobodies> I could be in that position if I didn't have help but not necessarily drugs or drink
50:48 <MrMobodies> How do I put it in the nicest possible way
51:41 <MrMobodies> it is only recently I and i feel like am disorganised and undisciplined clown when I am not working.
52:05 <Nothing\> as long as it doesn't seep into your work life
52:12 <MrMobodies> when nothing is perfect no matter how hard I try because I am npot thinking the right way
52:15 <Nothing\> man, i tried working before methadone
52:20 <Nothing\> that was damn near impossible
52:29 <Nothing\> at a call center for a cell company
52:58 <Nothing\> i felt bad cuz i lasted just long enough to do the training, which they don't make any money off of you on that that's all out of the company's pocket.
53:23 <Nothing\> which one trainer quoted was $10k a person but that sounds a bit steep
53:26 <MrMobodies> that's a shame it took over the opportunity
53:44 <MrMobodies> the meth thingy
53:53 <Nothing\> huh?
54:07 <MrMobodies> methadone
54:19 <Nothing\> oh no it wasn't methadone that screwed it up
54:24 <MrMobodies> nevermind I just reread I misunderstood
54:25 <Nothing\> this was before i got on methadone
54:29 <Nothing\> yeah heh
54:47 <MrMobodies> okay before the drug habbit
54:49 <Nothing\> i was saying i was such a mess without it, i couldn't even hold a job
54:57 <MrMobodies> I see
55:04 <Nothing\> then again i've been on disability for quite some time unrelated to the methadone
55:24 <MrMobodies> You need little bits of Methadone here and there to manage
55:27 <Nothing\> or at least not directly related to my opioid addiction, i mean i'm sure it's all connected, ya know.
55:44 <Nothing\> well i'm prescribed 80mg a day
55:52 <Nothing\> which i've been on for over 5 years
56:22 <Nothing\> piss test every week, talk to a doctor every couple of weeks, keep my nose clean of course
56:32 <Nothing\> and that's it as far as the conditions of the program
57:27 <Nothing\> besides common sense stuff like don't double up on your doses or if you miss more than 3 doses in a row you have to start fresh like you're new and work your way up to your old dose
57:35 <MrMobodies> 80ng a day sounds excessive but I am not a medical
57:40 <Nothing\> even though 3 days is hardly enough time to lose any tolerance
57:56 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, oh it is a large dose, i won't deny that
58:04 <Nothing\> probably more than i needed at the time
58:06 <MrMobodies> that doesn't sound like it is in your best interest?
58:13 <MrMobodies> because you missed a couple of doses
58:26 <MrMobodies> rules set out by a program
58:41 <MrMobodies> i mean it is overdoses someone
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59:34 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, compared to spending hours a day going around the city looking for drugs, then hours a day trying to find money for drugs only to do said drugs and feel better for a couple of hours, fall asleep only to wake up several hours later in withdrawal to do it all over again
00:02 <Nothing\> and god help me if i failed and wound up starting to go through withdrawal and i had to do all that the next day while sick too
00:14 <Nothing\> what i'm saying is, it's the lesser evil
00:17 <MrMobodies> I hope you find some way out through other good things
00:29 <MrMobodies> that will outweigh the withdrawal
00:42 <Nothing\> i mean yeah it's not ideal and i intend to get off of it when the time is right
00:48 <MrMobodies> I know won't be easy
01:03 <Nothing\> well the nice thing about methadone is it's dispensed as a liquid
01:13 <Nothing\> so you can reduce your dose as much or as little as you want
01:27 <MrMobodies> okay
01:32 <Nothing\> you can go down 1mg a month or 10mg a month
01:39 <Nothing\> whatever you're comfortable with
01:44 <MrMobodies> so it isn't as bad as I'd thought
01:59 <Nothing\> so if you do it right, you shouldn't get much if any physical withdrawal
02:14 <Nothing\> the only downside is it takes a loooong time to taper like that
02:30 <Nothing\> cuz each time you reduce the dose it takes about a month for your body to adjust
02:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Not Bluey! https://t.co/BfiTGUWX21
02:51 <Nothing\> the stuff stays in your system a very long time compared to other opioids
03:25 <Nothing\> which is why the withdrawal is unfortunately also much longer lasting than other opioids
03:45 <Nothing\> where most last maybe 7-10 days, methadone is more like 3-4 week
11:39 <Nothing\> once i knew this kid who needed a blood transfusion, but he didn't like blood so they gave him apple juice and in the fall he changed colors and fall out of a tree and died.
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14:12 <Nothing\> i went walking through the gas one day
20:30 <MrMobodies> oh liver failure
20:35 <MrMobodies> that's terrible
24:33 <Nothing\> lol no it was a joke
24:51 <Nothing\> see cuz he got apple juice so he took on the properties of an apple
25:02 <Nothing\> which is to change colors and fall out of a tree and die in the fall
35:27 <T3sl4> it's a variation on the fairy tale, https://i.imgur.com/OJJKsw1h.jpg
40:38 <MrMobodies> I can't believe they are selling skimmers in the open
40:40 <MrMobodies> https://www.atm-skimmers.com/shop-2/
41:13 <MrMobodies> I wonder how they will get caught out,
41:53 <MrMobodies> "A: If you buy products for $10000 or more on the same occasion, you get 20% discount. The discount is automatically deducted at checkout." Oh it is in the states. I thought it was the UK.
50:27 <Nothing\> T3sl4, that bristol stool chart thing was great
50:40 <Nothing\> i had to do a sorta triple take. at first i thought it was a rubber novelty
50:42 <T3sl4> the cake? yeah
50:51 <Nothing\> it took me a few times to realize it was chocolate
50:57 <Nothing\> oh that was a cake?
50:58 <Nothing\> haha
51:07 <T3sl4> i assumed chocolate topping on a cake
51:25 <Nothing\> i thought it was just a bunch of chocolate
53:42 <T3sl4> could be
53:54 <T3sl4> suppose i should look up the original some day
54:13 <Nothing\> this hot chocolate made by my keurig makes me want to go out and accost a drug rep
54:54 <Nothing\> like one of those pharmaceutical reps who offers perks to doctors for prescribing their drug over something else
55:08 <Nothing\> those guys are pure evil
56:21 <Nothing\> wait, maybe it's not the hot chocolate
05:04 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://imgur.com/gallery/efmV6w8
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02:15 <hsn> Hoi
02:23 <hsn> Who is here
03:26 <hsn> I ve pc price question
03:47 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CHQQ8NHryT3/?igshid=1sfpe4z72mz0x
03:58 <hsn> Does it worth 950$
04:25 <rust_collector> NEVER!
05:16 <rust_collector> I dunno? is it any good?
05:36 <rust_collector> sorry, working on my noodle spice blends
08:14 <hsn> Idk .. it is working ..
08:18 <hsn> Good
08:51 <hsn> I searched cpu + gpu price was only around 850$
08:58 <hsn> New
09:02 <hsn> Online
09:57 <hsn> No im lieing
10:20 <rust_collector> offline?
25:51 <hsn> No
25:58 <hsn> 300$ or somthing
26:31 <rust_collector> so, why are you asking if it is worth 950?
31:22 <rust_collector> hsn, are you getting into retro gaming or something? what version of dos will you run on that thing?
31:42 <hsn> No
31:54 <hsn> Bcz someone saw it
31:58 <hsn> He asking me
32:01 <hsn> As his
32:03 <hsn> Expert
32:08 <hsn> Does it worth
32:26 <hsn> Idk im not into the stuff :)
32:55 <rust_collector> well, I am not mr computer nerd, but 950 sounds like... double of what I would consider paying.
33:28 <rust_collector> not to mention I would paint that box, because I really really hate those window things
34:56 <hsn> Woh
35:21 <hsn> Double .. meaning to that spec or to general pc
35:22 <hsn> ?
35:53 <rust_collector> well, yes. if you say the cpu and graphics is 300?
36:32 <rust_collector> how old is it?
36:32 <hsn> 600
36:39 <rust_collector> oh, 300 each
36:41 <hsn> Idk ..
36:49 <rust_collector> 600 old is pretty old
37:20 <hsn> Why 600 old?
37:44 <hsn> I checked both on amazon new buy ~600
37:52 <rust_collector> well. I still think it is too much. but yeah, that is just me. it could have that magic something chip everyone is looking for...
38:10 <hsn> Ok
38:12 <hsn> Wait
38:16 <rust_collector> if it is new... that is different, right?
38:34 <hsn> Yes ofc
39:02 <hsn> I thought so .. but i dnt know how much bahrain ppl selling PC's
39:32 <hsn> Like i checked amazon .. without shipping
39:41 <rust_collector> that is also a thing. if pcs are rare there, the prices would be different, I guess
40:10 <hsn> But still i have same feeling .. its not .. oh wow i wanna buy this right now its the deal
40:40 <hsn> rust_collector basically everything is with margins
41:17 <hsn> This is considered cheap guy here
41:19 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CHQFAPHHrCT/?igshid=1h8b7oetpcgm3
42:45 <rust_collector> 380bd is?
43:37 <rust_collector> but yes, even I can see that some of that is cheaper things. but otoh, for being a stupid rgb box, that one is sort of neat
45:27 <hsn> 380 is 1000usd
45:39 <rust_collector> I think someone mentioned that graphics being the lowest usable one, lol. But I am probably forgetting a letter or number in the model name
45:42 <rust_collector> right
46:06 <hsn> Alot right?
46:28 <hsn> I mean i was adding in amazon
46:58 <rust_collector> well, i think so. I don't really know. I do know kid #1s graphics cost more than my car...and the previous car
47:10 <hsn> Cpu + gpu + mother board = 240+210+85
47:24 <hsn> Respectively
47:36 <hsn> Lol
47:42 <hsn> Wht is his gpu
47:50 <rust_collector> I have no idea
48:05 <hsn> How old is he
48:27 <rust_collector> 20
48:40 <hsn> Can u attack him?
49:08 <hsn> Or u ve this "no kicking" stuff
49:31 <hsn> I mean .. i got beaten when i was kid when i do wrong stuff
50:11 <hsn> Now i read everywhere no beating all sort of stuff i dnt believe it .. im thankful for the beats i got
50:13 <hsn> XD
50:38 <hsn> Believe in it ..
50:58 <rust_collector> nah beating is not a thing any more.... like it or not
51:06 <hsn> I would kick my kid ass
51:19 <hsn> Not badly
51:22 <rust_collector> ok, what did he do?
51:34 <hsn> If he did somthing deserve beating
51:38 <rust_collector> right
52:06 <hsn> Not when he is 20 i guess earlier
52:22 <rust_collector> well, in the case here, he is not a kid any more, so I guess I could, and have it counted as general purpose violence....
52:28 <hsn> From 7-15 .. i guess ..
52:57 <hsn> How else im suppose to raise him ..
53:08 <hsn> Just talk?
53:15 <rust_collector> electroshock therapy?
53:28 <hsn> That's beeting isnt it
53:41 <rust_collector> yes, you have to talk, and serve english tasting food
53:55 <hsn> U put 500k resistor in live .. and touch him?
54:06 <hsn> 220v
54:17 <rust_collector> he has his own resistance
54:41 <hsn> Which is?
54:48 <rust_collector> 82 ohms
54:58 <hsn> 220 gonna break it .. to 80?
55:05 <hsn> 220v
55:18 <hsn> 500082 ohm total
55:39 <rust_collector> meh, why waste those big resistors? just use a wire
55:54 <hsn> Thats 0.5mA
56:09 <hsn> To unkill him?
57:20 <rust_collector> I just poked mains with my chinese meter, and we are at 232.6 today
57:32 <hsn> 232 ac
57:52 <hsn> Would be 330 v max
58:02 <hsn> Peak thingy
58:19 <hsn> So 330/500k+82
58:35 <rust_collector> well, it depends on where you connect it, right, if you connect both wires to one toe, he would probably not die much
58:43 <hsn> 0.0005999105
59:01 <hsn> No .. juet live
59:05 <hsn> Just live
59:13 <hsn> He goes to earth
59:33 <rust_collector> does he?
59:49 <hsn> So total 0.6mA .. what do u say ?
00:01 <hsn> He will feel it safe?
00:02 <rust_collector> that should hurt pretty good, I think
00:31 <hsn> Would resistor fail short by any chance?
00:44 <rust_collector> I doubt it
00:45 <hsn> I must use safe resistor not to kill him
00:58 <rust_collector> but you use ground?
01:24 <hsn> Ground? No .. just put his feet on the gnd ..
02:03 <rust_collector> Until around 1990, we did not have grounded outlets, except in the kitchen and bathroom.
02:32 <hsn> Oh we got gnd .. uk type outlet
02:55 <hsn> Uk g type plugs
03:14 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/RJKN3DgLoJuPNtdC7
03:16 <rust_collector> reason being that there was not much ground to connect to here, so... it would not make much difference
03:48 <hsn> Hmm too kuch ground how so
03:51 <hsn> M
05:04 <rust_collector> houses are made out of wood, and the ground they stand on is pretty much rock. so nothing will conduct much. they figured it was not worth adding the ground stuff
06:22 <hsn> So wood with moisture will conduct
06:24 <rust_collector> hehe, it is 07.05, and they just did the first blasting of the day. they are really trying to get this done on time, for once
06:29 <hsn> No?
06:40 <rust_collector> eeh, to some degree, I guess
07:26 <rust_collector> you can always try to ohm a plank, and see?
08:31 <rust_collector> what are you doing up anyway? it is sort of like sunday for you?
08:37 <hsn> https://imgur.com/a/OtBf08A
08:53 <hsn> Im gonna to the grocery for breakfast
09:01 <hsn> Milch and bread
09:09 <hsn> Milch und brot
09:31 <rust_collector> very progressive
10:24 <hsn> Its 9 am .. allready felt i lost the day
10:25 <rust_collector> how do you feel your german is doing?
11:41 <hsn> I only know few words trying not to forget them instead of learning new ones
13:30 <rust_collector> well, don't remember too few words to learn more...
15:21 <hsn> Sounds like reasonable plan
15:34 <hsn> Grocery stores reached
15:34 <hsn> Cu
15:43 <rust_collector> good night!
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25:34 <hsn> Gn
25:42 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
25:51 <rust_collector> are you awake again?
27:24 <rust_collector> I think I have to go make more coffee
29:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Been watching all the Star Wars movies with the kids, even the prequels were enjoyable. Tonight is unfortunately The Last Jedi. There is never a power failure when you need one. I'd settle for an asteroid strike...
01:57 <rust_collector> hmm, it is less hot outside today.
02:09 <rust_collector> that probably means something
03:16 <Halcyon> Mmmm CBF cooking... I think I might order pizza
04:50 <rust_collector> that is not a bad plan
05:47 <rust_collector> We could not sleep, so we ended up pretty much agreeing on buying frozen pizza for the kids, and go to some restaurant, one of the days
16:38 <rust_collector> which probably means indian.
36:52 <steve30> hi Halcyon
43:25 <T3sl4> a steve30!
43:39 <steve30> yay a T3sl4 :)
04:17 <rust_collector> oof, sun is up
04:55 <T3sl4> natural light!
05:11 <rust_collector> yeh. that stuff
06:18 <rust_collector> it is starting to heat up a bit outside. getting close to 4c now
10:31 <T3sl4> that's heavy, doc
10:42 <T3sl4> or dense, rather, if you're water
12:59 <steve30> its still foggy out here
13:08 <rust_collector> 88% pizza, 3% kebab, and the rest is biproducts and coffee mixed
13:34 <electrohead> o/
13:38 <ibiza> HALAL ?
13:53 <rust_collector> halal coffee, yes
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19:45 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ7XKsVCEh4
33:05 <Halcyon> Hey steve30
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40:50 <steve30> There's an anti-lockdown protest on this afternoon, but I gather instead of it being a "protest", its going to be lots of people who went outside for exercise coincidentally passing through the same place.
46:33 <Halcyon> Why are people protesting against the lockdown, apart from "I don't wanna"
46:39 <Halcyon> Do they actually want to get sick?
47:48 <Halcyon> People just need to suck it up and get over whatever issues they have.
49:24 <steve30> conveniently, no one at the protests seems to get ill
49:40 <Halcyon> They don't? I'd love to see the stats on that
50:11 <Halcyon> I just don't understand people's selfish attitudes. It's all about THEM, and their wants and and their opinions. What about the greater good?
50:30 <Halcyon> What about actually working together and beating this thing so everyone can go back to normal sooner?
51:00 <rust_collector> yeah, why not do it properly, and just lock up people at home, and wait until it "passes"
51:07 <Halcyon> But no, apparently bitching and whinging is the best medicine.
51:58 <Halcyon> I hate to seem biased, but we seem to have hit the nail on the head. All our borders are open now interstate and life here in Sydney has basically been back to normal since about June/July.
52:54 <Halcyon> Victoria had the same selfish attitude and look where it got them? Months of lockdowns which they are only just now starting to come out of.
52:56 <rust_collector> i dunno? other than the news being really boring, I have not really noticed this thing at all?
53:35 <Halcyon> I am honestly really disappointed in society. We (collectively) are a bunch of dumb fuck.
53:37 <Halcyon> *fucks.
57:06 <Halcyon> We recorded 12 cases in the past 24 hours nationally... the UK has over 23,000 new cases. Even the US are doing far better with under 2000 new cases nationally.
58:05 <Halcyon> Sorry that's just today (forgetting time zones)... 132.5k new ones yesterday
59:12 <steve30> A lot of the people who test positive aren't very ill, and very few are dying.
59:18 <Halcyon> So?
59:37 <Halcyon> There is no cure, there is no (publically available) vaccine yet.
59:38 <rust_collector> people being very ill or dead is not the problem here
00:29 <rust_collector> as long as they don't spread it to other people, that is fine
00:36 <Halcyon> People just need to stop being fucking selfish and pull their heads in.
02:33 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
02:40 <Halcyon> Hey buddy :)
02:45 <electrohead> Hey mate
02:53 <Halcyon> What's doing?
03:02 <electrohead> Wide awake
03:14 <electrohead> You?
03:51 <rust_collector> he is just ranting on the internet about people being dumb...
05:53 <electrohead> Everyone can be dumb at a point in time
06:08 <Polesch> I am fascinated how a low battery on this Surface pen is able to break all of office AND DisplayPort
06:57 <Polesch> Pen input on my Surface has been completely broken for a month, trying to draw in any office program crashes it and disconnects the video output
07:16 <Polesch> Turns out the 15% remaining battery was to blame, changed it and all fixed
15:02 <electrohead> is it a rechargable battery?
15:27 <Polesch> No
15:33 <Polesch> Just a quad A one (AAAA)
16:52 <electrohead> is that 1.5V?
17:07 <electrohead> if so, then you should totally hack in a AA or AAA battery
17:10 <electrohead> :P
17:29 <Polesch> Doesn't fit, the AAAA is thinner
17:55 <hsn> Heh rusty i thought u r going sleep
18:01 <rust_collector> so, do you strip down 9v batteries? I can not find many aaaa cells anywhere
18:15 <rust_collector> hsn, no?, it was you going into the store?
18:45 <Polesch> Stripping 9V battery cells would be fun, but wiring them all in parallel would be a pita
19:38 <rust_collector> eh? didn't you need aaaa cells? that is what some 9v batteries have inside
20:04 <Polesch> Some do, not many
20:31 <rust_collector> right
21:18 <Polesch> I mostly see this style in batteries here https://goughlui.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/20150504_152030.jpg
21:18 <rust_collector> not sure why you would wire them in parallel, but ok. that would indeed be very boring
21:40 <Polesch> Because the device needs 1.5V, each cell is 1.5V
22:05 <rust_collector> yes, so
22:16 <Polesch> I give up on you
22:17 <rust_collector> that seems to be about right then?
26:54 <rust_collector> time for coffee...again
28:04 <hsn> rust_collector u "good nighted" me for going store?
28:35 <rust_collector> yes, don't let that bother you. I annoy everyone. it is just a gift I have
28:36 <hsn> Also .. i just ate breakfast. 1228
29:05 <rust_collector> I am already done with my lunch. 10.29
29:38 <hsn> Du bist klug
29:47 <rust_collector> heh
30:41 <rust_collector> you are pretty potato as well!
32:14 <rust_collector> so, what was breakfast?
32:35 <rust_collector> I had bread caviar and cheese, and a pack of noodles
34:53 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
35:02 <rust_collector> hey dr. S
35:55 <Ysjoelfir> Mr. rust, nice to see you!
35:57 <rust_collector> hsn says I am potato... I am not sure if I got exactly what he mean by that...
36:09 <Ysjoelfir> aww, thats very nice of him!
36:29 <rust_collector> tasty and goes well with anything, maybe?
37:01 <Ysjoelfir> probably exactly that
37:14 <rust_collector> I will assume that is what he was thinking of
37:41 <hsn> Egg tomato with some spices black powder pepper mainly
38:33 <rust_collector> it must be egg day. I had eggs for lunch
38:46 <hsn> And labnah
38:54 <hsn> Halo Ysjoelfir
39:18 <rust_collector> halo, st. Ysjoelfir
39:43 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: do u think klug means potato?
40:01 <rust_collector> did yo ulook that up?
40:20 <rust_collector> it does not
40:49 * Halcyon klugs Ysjoelfir 
40:52 <rust_collector> your statement was 19% correct, good job!
41:15 <Ysjoelfir> no, klug means intelligent :D
41:35 <Halcyon> Oh well...
42:09 * Halcyon beats Ysjoelfir with the klug ast
42:31 <hsn> So Ysjoelfir i wrote u one big answer for the question yesterday
42:41 <Halcyon> Or "der ast"
42:49 <hsn> Der ass?
42:53 <Halcyon> Yes
43:37 <Ysjoelfir> oh did you?
43:41 <Halcyon> Dammit... penis is "penis" in German?
43:44 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CHOuodqJ0XS/?igshid=144msidr27xr4
43:53 * Ysjoelfir is slightly annoyed because his headphones stopped working and he can't figure out why
43:59 <Ysjoelfir> yes Halcyon
44:21 <Halcyon> That's disappointing
44:49 <Halcyon> I thought it was going to be something cool like "Kummerspeck"
44:52 <hsn> Yes Ysjoelfir .. r u ready for it
44:56 <Halcyon> (Which I know has another meaning)
45:39 <Ysjoelfir> rofl @ the plumber thing. :D and yes, I'm ready. also Halcyon, no, we don't have stupid words for everything :P
45:57 <Halcyon> Not stupid, I like German words. They can be so.... expressive.
46:02 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: hsn, a probably very...provocative question for someone living in a religious-ish region: could you immagine to believe in some other religion? background for that question is: I always saw myself as some kind of atheist, but the more I look into stuff like nordish and celtic mythology I can see myself and my beliefes manifest in there. which makes me think if I probably haven't been an atheist at all but just believing in a religion I
46:12 <hsn> First i dont see it provocative .. but thats totally depending on how you grew up .. as stated that my father is very religious but i ll state few things that i dont even dare to tell the people here in my same "sub religion"
46:12 <hsn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam
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46:23 <hsn> In my family we discuss lots of subject that related to pure religion with minimal (bias) as we believe .. i notice most others here get aggressive if you talk about god existence from pure fresh eye view for example .. mostly they will " takfir" you for talking about this stuff ..
46:23 <hsn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfir
46:32 <hsn> Back to your question .. me and actually the family i raised in ..
46:32 <hsn> Think that all religions originated from god through prophets .. but later on .. humans just change it to something they like until you end up with another faked religion.. and yes that's includes islam and our sub religion ..
46:44 <hsn> [11/6, 11:04 PM] Hsn: There is always humans that come and use religion with "power of believe" to get advantage of other humans ..
46:44 <hsn> [11/6, 11:05 PM] Hsn: Ppl here wont accept you telling them that the person you admire so much "the pop" is not as great as you think for example
46:54 <hsn> Anyway, do i believe in other religion .. no i believe one is correct per time .. meaning its some sort of god is updating religions from time to time depending on what humans can take but they all have like same sort of foundation
47:03 <hsn> Be good
47:03 <hsn> Be good to people
47:04 <hsn> Dont lie
47:04 <hsn> Dont hurt other people
47:04 <hsn> Respect others
47:04 <hsn> Worship god
47:04 <hsn> Help your family
47:04 <hsn> Help your neighbors
47:04 <hsn> Be good
47:08 <hsn> Sort of thing foundation
47:21 <hsn> Oh crap thats alot
47:30 <hsn> Now .. which one is correct or who has the correct one .. i really doubt that there is human who has it all ..
47:31 <hsn> I tend to believe of lots of stuff in islam but maybe im biased .. most of us are born muslim at the end .. we didnt choose it even if we think we did ..
47:31 <hsn> I doubt why other stuff is there .. or what's the point of them .. but i really stopped caring because i cant find answers ..
47:46 <hsn> What i learned is that there are good people in the world .. weather they shia or sunni .. muslim or jew .. atheist or believer ..
47:46 <hsn> As well as there are bad people in all the above ..
47:55 <hsn> Thats all
48:46 <Ysjoelfir> that is a very nice answer to that question :) Thank you :D
49:03 <rust_collector> very progressive, again
49:51 <hsn> No .. thats very long answer Ysjoelfir
49:53 <hsn> XD
50:04 <Ysjoelfir> long, but nice^^
50:14 <rust_collector> ok, take 3 extra points for much text
50:40 <hsn> Ok rusty u would be a good teacher
50:59 <rust_collector> oh yes. well, probably not
51:14 <hsn> Either give marks with stars and points ... Or electrode the kids
51:53 <rust_collector> always look out for the teacher with the cattle prod
53:21 <Ysjoelfir> brb
54:29 <rust_collector> I think teachers (who are good) are supposed to like... know stuff?
54:41 <rust_collector> I only know other stuff
00:16 <hsn> Hmm
00:23 <hsn> Not all
00:53 <hsn> Some of them are good to look like they know stuff
01:43 <rust_collector> sure
02:42 <rust_collector> it looks like it will be a very nice day here
03:06 <rust_collector> except for the bright sun, and lack of frost
04:24 <hsn> Yum
04:26 <hsn> Frost
05:04 <rust_collector> yes, he is cute
06:55 <hsn> rust_collector do u know why pcbs need clean room?
07:33 <rust_collector> I guess to not get dirty?
07:42 <hsn> Whats wrong with contamenation
07:56 <Ysjoelfir> impedances, delamination, stuff
07:59 <Ysjoelfir> also, re
08:13 Quit: T3sl4 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
08:13 <hsn> Delamination?
08:16 <Ysjoelfir> soundcard works again for whatever reason.
08:18 <Ysjoelfir> yes
08:29 <hsn> Meaning?
08:42 * electrohead unhacks your computer, leaving it in a working state
09:02 <Ysjoelfir> layers of the PCB splitting. like the copper of layer 1 not being stuck to the prepreg anymore
09:04 <rust_collector> what kind of air do you have down there in germany these days? if pcbs fall apart
09:06 <Ysjoelfir> oh, so it was you mr. head!
09:33 <Ysjoelfir> german air is highly toxic, but we adapted to breathing it by forming chemical resistand lungs.
09:43 <electrohead> >.>
09:46 <electrohead> lol
09:46 <Ysjoelfir> *resisting? whatever :D
09:51 <rust_collector> no delaminating lungs?
09:55 <Ysjoelfir> nope
10:09 <rust_collector> someone should make better pcbs then
10:15 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
10:26 * Ysjoelfir grabs some rogers PCBs
11:22 <Ysjoelfir> also, you guys should enjoy this wonderful playlist. https://soundcloud.com/pettersumelius/sets/rimworld I highly suggest the track "Stay strong"
16:53 * Ysjoelfir cheers to mr. head with some Yuzu tea
17:24 * electrohead cheers back with some heineken beer
17:31 <electrohead> I'm about to go to bed, finally
17:49 <electrohead> ended up talking with a guy over the xbox, he lives only a few hours away from me
19:17 <Ysjoelfir> uh, heineken. not that bad for an industrial beer.
19:31 * Ysjoelfir sometimes wonders if he should reactivate his xbox live thing
19:53 <electrohead> I mainly only play one game on the xbox anymore, and that's GTA 5
20:18 <electrohead> the vehicles are pretty damn neat to drive/fly around
20:50 <Ysjoelfir> I played that on PC (but only single player), the campaign was rather nice but... got booring some day. I much more enjoyed GTA2, 3 and Vice City
21:24 <electrohead> GTA 5 online is neat, because I can go around and annihilate people xD
21:44 * Ysjoelfir is more the camper/sniper kind of guy
22:34 <electrohead> oo, I love using the thermal scope on the heavy sniper with explosive rounds
22:37 <electrohead> heh
22:45 <electrohead> people get pissed so quick, lol
23:32 <Ysjoelfir> wait... that sounds rather nice
24:16 <electrohead> I normally snipe jets out of the sky :D
24:29 <electrohead> half the people I do that to, immediately quit the session lol
24:35 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
25:20 <electrohead> but normally I don't need the thermal goggles nor the thermal scope, just the explosive ammo does fine
25:22 <Ysjoelfir> jets remind me of the good old battlefield 19xx and battlefield 2 times. I liked to be the guy people hated because I just used whatever machinery I could find :D
25:37 <electrohead> :D
26:02 <electrohead> hey, I just showed some dude on the xbox my site, and he hasn't replied back yet >.<
26:08 <electrohead> I think I scared him off =\
26:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol, why?^^ you're not that scary :P
26:51 <electrohead> well, another user made a comment about the projects I have posted, and I did think about it quite a bit
27:00 <rust_collector> must be that dragon thing on his arm
27:06 <electrohead> you saw the selection I have, right?
27:09 <electrohead> rust_collector: lol
27:36 <Ysjoelfir> yep, but whats bad about it?
29:24 <electrohead> well, it's two that stand out to me, that already stood out to said other user
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29:44 <electrohead> the proxmark3 and homebrew wifi ducky posts
29:44 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
30:31 <Ysjoelfir> can you link them again? I can't remember that I found anything offensive or anything like that when I read through your projects?
30:46 <electrohead> https://hellnet.xyz
30:50 <electrohead> fuck it, I'll post it here lol
31:33 <electrohead> err - https://hellnet.xyz/php/projects.php
32:00 <Ysjoelfir> found it already :D but thanks^^ So.... why would that be bad? I love the idea
32:36 <electrohead> the proxmark3 can be used for nefarious reasons, along with the wireless wifi ducky
33:12 <rust_collector> I can do evil things with a shoe
33:19 <T3sl4> oof, internet went down for a lil there
34:13 * electrohead hold it back up for you
34:14 <Ysjoelfir> well yes, but as rusty said, so could be done with a shoe. especially a netherlandish one.
34:17 <electrohead> holds*
34:26 * Ysjoelfir supports mr head
36:15 <electrohead> are you supporting me as I fall asleeo on my keyboard? if so, thank you, cause then no keybaord key marks in my face :P
36:24 <electrohead> asleep*
36:26 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkEBjpROW4
36:43 <electrohead> LOL
36:58 <electrohead> ok, I actually like charlie the unicorn
37:02 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
37:12 <Ysjoelfir> brb, have to clean the staircase...
37:12 <rust_collector> yes, if they could just skip the singing parts
37:15 <electrohead> we're going to candy mountain
37:29 <rust_collector> CANDY MOUNTAIN!
37:35 <electrohead> fuck
37:47 <electrohead> alright, that's the official cue to get the hell to bed
37:47 <T3sl4> the rust fairy came to me in a dreeeeeam!
38:16 <rust_collector> electrohead, be careful, someone might steal your kidney
38:16 <electrohead> watch, I'll wake up with fucking unicorns floating around my head, trying to steal my kidney
38:22 <electrohead> lmfao
38:33 <electrohead> hahahahaha
38:48 <electrohead> BED TIME NOW
38:49 <T3sl4> in the mean time, i promise not to eat your face
38:53 <electrohead> goodnight y'all
38:55 <electrohead> lol
38:55 <T3sl4> that would be my least favorite thing
38:58 <rust_collector> what a nice offer
39:13 <T3sl4> wait, hands? w/e
39:50 <rust_collector> sleep sleeeeeepppp ppppp ppffttt
39:51 <T3sl4> CtU and llamas with hats always went together in my headspace
40:07 <rust_collector> ok
40:21 <electrohead> then a phone rings in the distance..... ring ring ring ring ring
40:25 <electrohead> banana phone
40:35 * electrohead bashes head of desk
40:38 <electrohead> off*
40:47 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/6AtebqV.gif
41:15 <electrohead> ttyl, lol
41:28 <T3sl4> o/
41:37 <rust_collector> mmmh, time to go to bed, no?
45:47 <rust_collector> no? ok
50:59 <T3sl4> BED!
51:29 <rust_collector> yes, take it, I am not using it
54:30 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
55:06 <rust_collector> looks like you have to fight with mr steve
56:44 <Ysjoelfir> indeed :D
58:15 <rust_collector> and the stairs are shiny and waxed nicely?
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59:36 <Ysjoelfir> no. just... erm... what do you call that? sweeped? taking a broom and going over it.
00:46 * Ysjoelfir things it should be "swept", but isn't sure. whatever. you know what I mean
01:00 <T3sl4> so that's why my internet fell over, you stole the broom that was propping it up!
01:06 <rust_collector> oh, you sweepied it, nice
01:07 <T3sl4> swept yes
01:47 <Ysjoelfir> yes. But I put it back where I got it :D
02:12 <rust_collector> some day, I want to wax and polish the floor at work, and throw some bottles of soap from upstairs
02:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol
03:11 <Ysjoelfir> I just did that now because mrs. bitch landlordlady is here, as every saturday, and I already noticed the disturbance in the force when she entered the building
07:57 <rust_collector> you should try to talk like darth vader every time she is there
08:22 <Ysjoelfir> xD
08:32 Quit: Nothing ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
09:04 <rust_collector> start every sentence with *PSSSSSSHHHHHHHH PSSSSSHHHHHH*
09:09 <rust_collector> hello
10:10 <T3sl4> "your lack of maintenance disturbs me."
10:35 <Ysjoelfir> nah. I prefer to not engage her in any way
10:57 <Lord_of_nothing> Good morning Ladys
10:59 <Ysjoelfir> better to keep distance to that cockatoo
11:05 <Ysjoelfir> morning Lords
13:14 <Lord_of_nothing> Test
13:17 <Lord_of_nothing> *test*
13:20 <Lord_of_nothing> _test_
13:27 <Ysjoelfir> nope, doesn't work
13:38 <Lord_of_nothing> well the client dont show it should look
13:53 <Lord_of_nothing> depend on the client the might work
14:14 <rust_collector> detest detest detest
14:19 <rust_collector> try again
15:02 <Lord_of_nothing> so lumchtime
15:07 <Lord_of_nothing> i goint to eat now.
15:07 <T3sl4> i must pro-test
15:21 <rust_collector> ok, do it!
20:58 <rust_collector> are you done?
22:02 <coppice> T3sl4: broom based internet? is this IP over witches broom carriers?
22:24 <T3sl4> close. Black CAT5
22:40 <rust_collector> cat is nagging, she wants me to come look at her eating
22:42 <coppice> yeah, we all know the internet is about pussy
24:11 <rust_collector> mmhmmm
27:37 <hsn> Katze5
28:12 <rust_collector> katz 5e?
30:48 <rust_collector> my cat it has 3 corners
32:48 <rust_collector> hsn, say something very interesting
34:31 <rust_collector> mein hut der hat
35:37 <Ysjoelfir> drei ecken
35:40 <Ysjoelfir> drei ecken hat mein hut
35:45 <Ysjoelfir> und hätt' er nicht drei ecken
35:51 <Ysjoelfir> dann wär' es nicht mein hut!
36:29 <rust_collector> good try! now be hsn, and do that
36:44 Nick: Ysjoelfir is now known as h5n
36:57 <h5n> meine hut die hat 3 ecken
37:15 Nick: h5n is now known as Ysjoelfir
37:20 <Ysjoelfir> you did great hsn!
37:34 <rust_collector> oh yes, I forgot the long pause
37:44 <rust_collector> not bad
39:53 <coppice> I think "meine hut die hat 3 ecken" is a Falla-cy
39:53 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
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43:27 <rust_collector> time to do a tiny bit of something... have funners
18:33 <Ysjoelfir> I'm working on my Power analyzer. what are you doing, rusty?
24:16 <coppice> analyzing power is easy. just poke your fingers in a socket
24:52 <Ysjoelfir> right. I am also implementing a quick check pokey bit which gets directly connected to the users weener.
25:23 <coppice> don't connect to the weener. that makes the product sexist
26:44 <coppice> similarly you must make it inclusive, by working correctly for sweaty people and those with dry skin
33:52 <Ysjoelfir> Then I should add an anal probe, that is unisex and works with soft and dry skin
35:33 <rust_collector> I am...well... you know the onion van?
35:55 <Ysjoelfir> have heard of it :P
36:11 <rust_collector> I am cleaning up my workbench in the garage a bit
37:11 <rust_collector> I was just sorting a pile of crap on it, which was about 50% drill bits, and 40% something else
37:24 <Ysjoelfir> lol
37:41 <Ysjoelfir> you want to come over and resharpen all of my drills, especially the old woodworking ones? :P
37:42 <rust_collector> then I took apart the vise, and cleaned that up a bit, adjusted the slop, and
37:55 <rust_collector> uuhm, not really no?
38:00 <Ysjoelfir> :P
39:00 <rust_collector> I did make a jig thing for the bench grinder, so I think I could do that, with a very narrow wheel...
39:34 <rust_collector> if the snail ok on them?
40:45 <rust_collector> I think I will cut down my diy press, and use that frame as a... thing to put my somewhat larger press on
41:37 <Ysjoelfir> yep, problem is, that many of them have already lost their cutting.. fhingies. you know, if you take a look at this pic, https://pimdatacdn.bahco.com/media/sub667/16a12e298a372a3f.png un the bottom left, under the screwy thing. the thin piece of metal that cuts the fibers cleanly. No idea if I could restore that by filing the drill down and leaving just a bit of metal standing at the sides
41:43 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: adding an anal probe is only a good choice if you want to create the image that your product incorporates alien technology
41:50 <Ysjoelfir> bigger press sounds good, do it!
42:03 <Ysjoelfir> then its decided, coppice!
43:42 <rust_collector> are you sure all of them had the "wings" to start with? but it should be possible to make them work ok.
44:35 <Ysjoelfir> yep, they all should have had these wings from the beginning.
44:49 <Ysjoelfir> let me take a pic
44:56 <coppice> I wonder why the airlines are scraping all their 747s? They have no future as passenger planes, but with the current shortage of freighters wouldn't a quick refurbishment of some of these planes make sense?
45:09 <rust_collector> blah, mr upmarket trousers...
45:40 <rust_collector> uhm, as the 747 was designed as a cargo plane in the beginning, if I remember correctly....
46:22 <coppice> no. it was designed as a dual use platform from the start, although the freighter market was still very small in the 1960s
47:06 <rust_collector> ok
48:38 <Ysjoelfir> I wondered the same, have seen many news of airlines scrapping 747s. why do they do that, what have I missed?
49:05 <rust_collector> less people are flying, I guess?
49:31 <coppice> The 747 and A380 were already dying before COVID. COVID has accelerated the end
49:49 <Ysjoelfir> rusty: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e2oxX9ctnZdlJ7JT9s4nbgeIS9GgXd4y/view?usp=sharing
49:55 <Ysjoelfir> left ok, right.. not so much
50:25 <coppice> even 5 years ago a lot of old 747 routes has swapped to a larger number of 777s covering the route
50:49 <rust_collector> well, it does not take much of an edge, as long as it cuts deeper than the "screw" rips out of the material
51:30 <rust_collector> but yes, find a small file, and get to it, lol
51:56 <rust_collector> I am going back outside, to do whatever I do outside a bit
52:33 <Ysjoelfir> I wondered if there could be a downside to that I didn't think of. like, changing the cutting geometry of something? no idea
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