// #eevblog — 2020-11-15
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01:57:12 <rust_collector> morning mr head
01:57:35 <electrohead> g'morning
01:58:01 <rust_collector> oh, isit
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01:58:09 <rust_collector> grrreat
01:58:18 <electrohead> huh?
01:58:33 * T3sl4 hugs electrohead
01:58:54 * electrohead hugs back
01:59:11 * rust_collector hugs rust_collector
01:59:34 <T3sl4> self care is important
01:59:39 <electrohead> lol
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02:17:35 <rust_collector> yaaay! I bought more crap on ebay. I hope they send it thru some weird place, because I like reading the stuff on the packages
02:18:41 <Kuschelpony> hihi
02:18:42 <Ysjoelfir> like stuff from guangdong hong zin jung fong pung?
02:19:20 <rust_collector> yes, then they sent it to tajikistan, and get it sent from there
02:22:07 <rust_collector> what is an opamp with a little bit higher voltage specs? I know the older 741 went to a bit over 40v, but are there any other options?
02:25:41 <Kuschelpony> hmm, several go to 44V (can search a few for you9 but above that only very special expensive ones from Apex come
02:26:04 <rust_collector> nah, 44 will be fine
02:26:07 <Kuschelpony> two decades ago i would have suggested video amplifiers for CRTs
02:26:13 <Kuschelpony> ah ok i find some
02:26:15 <Ysjoelfir> yep, pretty hard to find any in that range.
02:26:33 <Ampera> aaaaaa
02:26:35 <Ampera> fuck
02:26:41 <Ampera> shit
02:26:45 <Ampera> shit the fuck
02:26:50 <rust_collector> just the most general purpose one you can find. I guess I could just use a 741
02:26:54 <rust_collector> hi Ampera
02:27:06 <Ysjoelfir> nice to see you too, Ampera :)
02:27:25 <T3sl4> Ampera, you live again
02:28:09 <rust_collector> his treatment turned min into a cat, so now he has many lives to use
02:28:18 <Kuschelpony> how about the MC34071
02:28:29 <Kuschelpony> (its one of my favorites anyway)
02:29:21 * Ysjoelfir expects T3sl4 to ragequit reading anything starting with MC340
02:29:34 <Ampera> T3sl4, unfortunately
02:29:36 <T3sl4> nah, that's an ok amp
02:29:46 <Ampera> I'm not ok
02:29:52 <Ampera> stop saying I am you monster
02:30:17 <Ysjoelfir> I know^^ just wanted to reference your love for MC34063
02:30:28 <rust_collector> from a quick look, I guess that would be a good option
02:31:33 <rust_collector> thanks pony muncher
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02:31:49 <Kuschelpony> its basically the good alternative to the LM358, single supply but no crossover and much higher slewrate
02:31:55 <Kuschelpony> sure!
02:32:00 <Kuschelpony> thats why i am here in the chat :)
02:32:14 <Kuschelpony> kill thgose shit days with doing at least some helpful work
02:32:55 <rust_collector> Oh, I thought you were here because of the great rants and long monologues about nothing
02:33:29 <Kuschelpony> my brtain cant handle nothing so i try to give anything at least some serious thing
02:33:46 * Ysjoelfir nods understanding
02:34:07 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/OF4jAxh
02:34:26 <rust_collector> I will put that on my list of stuff to buy. good times
02:35:24 <rust_collector> are you building a tube version of the vic20?
02:35:25 <Ysjoelfir> its counting. kind of.
02:35:41 <Kuschelpony> crazy
02:36:30 <arch> T3sl4, you could do the same thing using VFD tubes, right? iirc you can use VFDs as vacuum tubes
02:36:50 <Kuschelpony> arch, works even fine
02:36:53 <T3sl4> yes, but VFDs can't light neon bulbs, at least not within ratings
02:37:02 <T3sl4> on the upside, they can light themselves :)
02:37:32 <arch> how much those do tubes you have there cost? i've always wanted a few authentic vacuum tubes to play with
02:37:38 <arch> i dont have any vacuum tubes atm
02:37:41 <Kuschelpony> VFDs can deliver somethign 30V, thats enough difference between glowing and dark neons, just need to finetune several voltages
02:38:13 <Kuschelpony> like the Nixie clocks do it with TTL that have only 30V open collector outputs as well
02:38:53 <arch> yeah, but you risk damaging the transistor on startup, cuz the strike voltage might be 90V, or higher
02:40:49 <Kuschelpony> thats why you conect the open transiosotr with an resitot so an interm�ediate supply voltage of just below 30V to make an amplifier, and then hookup and neon tube that has its own supply voltage tuned up that it does just noit ignite at 30V on its cathode but just ignites when having 0V on its cathode
02:41:02 <Kuschelpony> and i should type slower on my wobbly laptop
02:41:09 <T3sl4> Kuschelpony: nixies are always lit (until they aren't..), neons have to strike with some overvoltage
02:41:20 <T3sl4> with a fresh bulb it might be enough, but it won't age well
02:41:55 <T3sl4> though it will age slowly, with the <1mA a VFD can pull
02:43:02 <Kuschelpony> whern i have spare time again i have to hook up somethign to the scope
02:54:12 * electrohead sends arch a spare tube
02:54:41 <electrohead> I have a tube amp for my guitar, and have some spares laying around :P
02:54:48 * arch puts it in his mouth and applies a voltage across buttcheeks, lights it up
02:54:57 <electrohead> lol
02:59:12 * Ampera hugs electrohead
02:59:13 <Ampera> <3
03:00:06 * electrohead hugs Ampera
03:00:13 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
03:01:23 <electrohead> I'm alright, you?
03:02:32 <Ampera> electrohead, that's a complicated question to answer
03:02:56 <Ampera> Sorta just abstract of feeling at the moment.
03:03:22 * electrohead shakes the abstract out of you
03:04:02 * Ampera barfs concrete all over electrohead
03:17:43 <Ampera> nice, mobile hotspot data
03:17:51 <Ampera> it always amuses me whenever I get to use it
03:18:32 <hsn> U r amuzing ampera
03:18:40 <Ampera> hsn, fuck you
03:18:42 <Ampera> ya fat cunt
03:18:48 <hsn> U too xD
03:18:55 <Ampera> and the horse you rode in on
03:19:06 * Ampera smacks hsn with a mackerel
03:19:17 <hsn> Rode in on meaning
03:19:24 <Ampera> rode into town on
03:19:30 <Ampera> ya loon
03:20:00 <hsn> I get no idea what to say
03:20:33 <Ysjoelfir> so, hsn, did you already buy Factorio?
03:20:39 <Ampera> oh god factorio
03:20:45 <Ampera> it's like a stress management simulator
03:21:02 <Ysjoelfir> that depends strongly on your playstyle^^
03:21:20 <Ampera> my playstyle is turn the mobs down, have fun, and then get my ass eaten by some fat fuckers
03:21:38 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: no lol u made me stop thinking about it when u said hours. I look into games of 10mins or something
03:21:55 <Ysjoelfir> pffffff
03:21:59 <Ysjoelfir> hours
03:22:01 <Ysjoelfir> DAYS!
03:22:04 <Ysjoelfir> WEEKS!
03:22:09 <Ysjoelfir> WEEKS of endless fun
03:22:12 <Ysjoelfir> maybe even months
03:22:19 <hsn> Its gonna make me addict
03:23:23 <hsn> U dnt want to see addicted hsn
03:23:44 <hsn> Awful just like ampera xD
03:23:59 <arch> Ampera, what's your favorite topic in EE?
03:25:50 <hsn> electrotherapy
03:26:14 <hsn> electrocution
03:26:30 <Kuschelpony> i prefer that one with the alive end
03:27:00 <hsn> Alive end . 220v ?
03:28:06 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/VlHw8NR
03:32:35 * arch recommends T3sl4 take food pics to instagram before he gets his knees broken with a bat
03:32:57 <T3sl4> does that look like my username?
03:33:06 * T3sl4 caps arch with a heavy computer grade part
03:33:11 <arch> oo my bad. didnt notice the username
03:33:36 <arch> too many people obsesses with food selfies :3
08:38:30 * arch makes Lord_of_nothing into Lord of The Flies
08:54:06 <Nothing\> gah my cat's suckling from herself again
08:54:06 <Nothing\> it's so weird, i dunno if i should stop it or what
08:54:06 <Nothing\> if i pet her and get her too relaxed she'll start trying to suckle from hersfl
08:54:06 <Nothing\> and it's loud, too
08:54:06 <arch> i don't see a problem there. free hydration
08:54:06 <hsn> Hey T3sl4
08:54:06 <T3sl4> odd
08:54:06 <hsn> Its 3:51 pm
08:54:06 <T3sl4> yes
08:54:06 <Nothing\> lol arch i don't think she's old enough to actually lactate
08:54:06 <Nothing\> maybe if she were still nursing from her mum and getting extra hormones
08:54:06 <hsn> Im gonna sleep now and check on u again maybe by 10pm which u dont sleep right T3sl4 ?
08:54:06 <Nothing\> same babies can start lactating from that. or even have a pseudoperiod
08:54:13 <Nothing\> hsn: have a good one, dude
08:54:13 <arch> the more you know
08:54:24 <hsn> Thanks Nothing\
08:54:28 <Nothing\> arch: indeed. it happened with my daughter and scared the crap out of my ex and i
08:54:31 <Nothing\> that's how i found out
08:54:59 <hsn> Nothing\: keep eye on T3sl4 .. im trying to figure out if he really sleeps or not .. no kidding
08:55:02 <Nothing\> we took her to the doctor and they explain hormones from mum can cause all sorts of wackiness to happen
08:55:11 <Nothing\> lol
08:55:49 <Nothing\> he's probably just like me. doesn't keep any real set sleep schedule but just sleeps when he's either tired and/or bored
08:56:56 <hsn> Nothing\: i think he sleeps with 4hours daily average or somthing tbh
08:57:43 <Nothing\> anti-cat sleeping patterns
08:58:20 <arch> whenever T3sl4 goes missing, i always think his house blew up or something. it's worrying =(
08:58:29 <Nothing\> btw i found this site with all of these cool science/math based java applets
08:58:43 <Nothing\> it's the same guy who made circuitmod, if you're familiar
08:58:53 <Nothing\> https://www.falstad.com/mathphysics.html
08:59:02 <Nothing\> there's some really neat stuff in here
09:02:49 <arch> word, seen some of those on reddit a long time ago
09:10:40 <Ampera> how the hell are those working
09:10:56 <Ampera> java applets shouldn't be working on my browser, are those javascript instead?
09:11:28 <Ampera> alright it looks like some sort of javascript wrapper
09:14:48 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
09:14:48 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:35 2020
09:14:49 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV_TfdlrzAA
09:14:49 <rust_collector> Ok, I give up. I am putting this power thing back together.
09:14:49 <Lord_of_nothing> LOL much better troll video: https://youtu.be/j6LjqDd_QcU?t=14
09:14:49 <rust_collector> that is a rabbit?
09:14:49 <Ysjoelfir> mrs spouse decided that she wants to look ancient german sentimental films in idealized regional settings. now we're watching an ancient bavarian kinda comedy movie from 1956.
09:14:49 <Lord_of_nothing> @<rust_collector it seem to be a poo dispenser
09:14:49 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, no chaplin impersonator screaming propaganda?
09:14:49 <Lord_of_nothing> @@Ysjoelfir well i like to watch cat videos. When a Cat get hate someone that will be for live!
09:14:49 <Lord_of_nothing> When i want watch propaganda i just turn into us tv
09:14:49 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, try to make her watch some drama thing from finland. even the news will feel nice and uplifting after that
09:14:49 <Ysjoelfir> lol
09:14:49 <rust_collector> dark darkness with cold and dark trees, and nude fat drunk people running in snow, with large knives
09:14:49 <Ysjoelfir> sounds cheerful!
09:14:49 <rust_collector> it depends on what you are used to, I guess
09:14:49 <rust_collector> now I want to stuff a rabbit with other things, and see if it will dispense that
09:14:49 <rust_collector> can I feed rabbits with something that react to air, so it will catch fire when it drops out... that would be interesting
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10:10:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, it's the java ghost
10:10:47 <Nothing\> some of them are pretty cool applets though, huh?
10:11:15 <Nothing\> i'm especially partial to the ones that visualize electromagmetic fields
10:11:29 <Nothing\> or the ones that simulate wave dynamics
10:13:27 <Nothing\> i dunno if it's me, or the show, but i just can't enjoy south park anymore
10:13:56 <Nothing\> i tried watching the pandemic special and lasted about 3 minutes before i had to shut it off
10:14:23 <Nothing\> harhar masks look like chin diapers when you don't wear them properly
10:14:44 <Nothing\> way to exploit something that's killed millions for your own personal gain
10:15:06 <Nothing\> just because you point it out in the show doesn't make it alright
10:40:23 <Nothing\> so who do you guys think will be kicked out of office first
10:40:31 <Nothing\> trump? or lukachenko?
10:40:53 <Nothing\> lukashenko
10:54:34 <Nothing\> hrm
10:54:40 <Nothing\> should i buy opus magnum
10:55:00 <Nothing\> which is $22, a bit steep for an indie game
10:55:41 <Nothing\> or pay $49 for a bungle of games by zachtronics with spacechem, infinifactor and opus magnum
10:56:15 <Nothing\> actually i don't think i have that much, so opus magnum it is
10:56:24 <Nothing\> i didn't like spacechem much anyways
10:57:35 <Nothing\> it's too bad steam doesn't give you points on purchase which you can put towards reducing the cost of your next purchase
10:58:16 <Nothing\> like the Switch's online store gives you something like 0.1 cents for every dollar you spend
10:59:34 <Nothing\> i do see that i earch some sort of points every time i buy something on steam but i don't think those can be used to buy anything of any real use
11:00:30 <Nothing\> yeah, you can get these stupid animated "stickers" for your account WOW
11:02:12 <rust_collector> here is my favorite : https://www.clipartmax.com/middle/m2i8N4i8b1b1b1Z5_my-little-pony-cheese-sandwich/
11:04:05 <Nothing\> cheese sandwich pony?
11:04:13 <Nothing\> or cheese pony sandwich?
11:04:22 <rust_collector> yes
11:05:55 <Nothing\> welp, i paid almost half of my sales tax credit on this game. i might as well play it.
11:06:11 <Nothing\> yes that's right, we get a credit for our sale tax here
11:06:48 <rust_collector> did you sell anything?
11:06:59 <Nothing\> no
11:07:14 <Nothing\> it's for paying sales tax, not receiving it
11:07:20 <rust_collector> then, that is cheating
11:07:33 <Nothing\> it's not that much
11:07:41 <Nothing\> it's like $70 a month
11:08:14 <rust_collector> that is still handy, if you need $70
11:08:34 <Nothing\> then there's the trillium tax credit, which i'm not even sure what that's for but i assume it's provincial because the trillium is the provincial flower of ontario
11:08:48 <Nothing\> but that's like $100 or so every quarter
11:08:59 <Lord_of_nothing> hi
11:09:07 <Nothing\> hey Lord_of_nothing
11:09:11 <Nothing\> how goes it?
11:09:13 <Lord_of_nothing> i should not drink 1,5l black tea
11:09:37 <Nothing\> what is that? like bacardi 151 mixed with tea?
11:09:40 <rust_collector> that is true
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11:09:56 <Nothing\> hey MrMobodies
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11:10:04 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:10:07 <Nothing\> wow this place suddenly livened up
11:10:08 <MrMobodies> I am in a mess at the moment
11:10:12 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, how are ayou?
11:10:17 <Nothing\> aww dude, what's up?
11:10:20 <MrMobodies> where I have so many things going but not going anywhere sort of week
11:10:43 <MrMobodies> I brought another print head with the same error code but noticed damaged to the ribbon cable,
11:10:44 <Nothing\> oh i'm sure you've made more progress than you realize
11:10:48 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN1yuznNFvM&feature=youtu.be
11:10:53 <MrMobodies> I have a question
11:10:57 <MrMobodies> a networking one
11:11:15 <Nothing\> don't look at me. networking is my weakness
11:11:32 <Nothing\> but one of these fine gentleman might be able to help
11:11:43 <rust_collector> networking.... use a cable, that should work
11:12:04 <MrMobodies> okay I want to segregate each port on a layer 2 switch
11:12:13 <MrMobodies> so that they can only communicate to port 1
11:12:15 <Nothing\> rust_collector, that's what i did instead of screwing around setting up wifi for the longest time
11:12:32 <Nothing\> but it's really not so bad anymore
11:12:36 <MrMobodies> I have made it work but things are happening unexpectdly
11:12:45 <Nothing\> plus working at comcast got me over that fear
11:13:01 <MrMobodies> if I make transfers, all the lights flash
11:13:11 <MrMobodies> despite not being able to see each other
11:13:14 <Nothing\> for some reason i can't get my microphone to work for the life of me anymore
11:13:22 <MrMobodies> and packets go to the unmanaged switch
11:13:36 <Nothing\> i dunno if it broke suddenly cuz it's a dollar store microphone
11:14:04 <MrMobodies> I have done this in the past without a problem with a printer shared between some businesses in the same office
11:14:20 <MrMobodies> and didn't have that symptom
11:14:25 <Nothing\> but got help me, it's been 25 years and i still haven't been able to get a microphone working properly
11:14:32 <MrMobodies> oh
11:14:36 <Nothing\> it worked like like a week and then just crapped out
11:15:42 <Nothing\> tried restarting and everything. nothing seemed to work.
11:15:46 <rust_collector> I really have no idea about networking stuff.
11:16:13 <Nothing\> windows detects the microphone being plugged in, recognizes the device
11:16:41 <Nothing\> volume's turned up in my mixer. mic's turn on in the software settings.
11:16:50 <rust_collector> I have a pretty big hp switch, that I still have not hooked up, so I don't even know if it works at all
11:17:15 <Nothing\> i took apart a 4 port switch for the hell of it once
11:17:18 <MrMobodies> I think thye mute them
11:17:19 <Nothing\> it was a d-link
11:17:23 <Nothing\> pretty boring
11:17:37 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, noi checked to make sure it wasn't muted
11:17:37 <MrMobodies> somewhere, but I bet you looked into the sound card preference
11:17:53 <Nothing\> yeah
11:17:54 <MrMobodies> the voice should appear on the meter
11:18:08 <Nothing\> right, there's where my problem was
11:18:16 <Nothing\> the meter wasn't registering anything
11:18:44 <MrMobodies> and it is a usb sound card?
11:18:56 <MrMobodies> oops I misread above
11:19:02 <MrMobodies> what type of sound card
11:19:11 <Nothing\> even though it showed the device plugged in and volume turned all the way up i'm tihning the microphone is just pooched
11:19:18 <Nothing\> it's just onboard
11:19:19 <rust_collector> sounds (haha) like it was trying to find sounds in the wrong place, imo
11:19:55 <MrMobodies> pooched?
11:20:41 <MrMobodies> so recording devices show a meter to the microphone but nothing
11:21:17 <Nothing\> what i hate is when you search windows for the screen to configure the microphone. Even though it plainly says something akin to "configure microphone" the page it takes you to is for configuring your speech recognition
11:21:43 <Nothing\> oh hey
11:21:45 <Nothing\> how about that
11:21:47 <Nothing\> it works now
11:21:53 <Nothing\> odd, but i'll take it
11:22:05 <rust_collector> never reboot!
11:22:16 <Nothing\> now then, any suggestions for oscilloscope software?
11:22:25 <Nothing\> i was looking for something the other day
11:22:32 <rust_collector> for what scope?
11:22:38 <Nothing\> i have some nice FFT software
11:22:50 <Nothing\> rust_collector, like an audio oscilloscope
11:23:13 <MrMobodies> I remember some soundcards on motherboards have this jack feature where it can shift the outputs for like surround sound
11:23:38 <MrMobodies> to save them costs on extra sockets
11:23:41 <Nothing\> yeah i tried the front and rear jacks to no avail
11:23:45 <Nothing\> it was weird
11:23:57 <Nothing\> just didn't want to work to save its life
11:24:27 <MrMobodies> even with the drivers
11:24:28 <rust_collector> https://www.zeitnitz.eu/scope_en that is the only one I have tried
11:25:20 <MrMobodies> looks nice and simple
11:25:45 <coppice> I remember that looking like a promising start, but it seems to have been abandoned years ago
11:25:52 <rust_collector> it has enough features to mess up your day. and you still have to build the scope part of it
11:26:07 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/KATUNews/status/1326939061760700420
11:26:17 <rust_collector> yeah, I do not think it has been worked on in some time
11:26:43 <Nothing\> ah, i got this one called frequency analyzer
11:27:03 <Nothing\> does an FFT waterfall style display at the same time
11:28:23 <MrMobodies> spectrum analyzer?
11:28:58 <MrMobodies> or is that for like picking up radio waves?
11:29:32 <Nothing\> nah, audio frequency FFT and oscilloscope
11:30:12 <Nothing\> but they do make radio frequency analyzers but they got a good bit more
11:30:21 <rust_collector> heh, I just found an l200. I thought it was an amplifier... I should use that thing
11:32:47 <MrMobodies> I am going to try some experiments with my router
11:33:28 <MrMobodies> It will cause lots of interruptions so I'll disconnect and see you later.
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11:33:40 <rust_collector> have fun
11:37:18 <rust_collector> meh, time for some more tacos...
11:37:37 <Nothing\> omfg i dunno if it was cuz i was tired or what, but i watched this last night and i've never laughed so hard ona very long time, if ever
11:37:41 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV0PAyP0laA&ab_channel=Let%27sGameItOut
11:38:06 <Nothing\> it took me like an hour to watch because i was laughing so hard that it hurt
11:39:43 <Nothing\> i dunno if it really was that funny or if i just broke my brain
11:42:39 <rust_collector> was that the guy with the evil zoo?
11:43:19 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19JYOVPmwDM
11:43:34 <Nothing\> mmm
11:43:53 <Nothing\> i've got tehse little chocolate eggs that are full of that white stuff that coats the inside of kinder eggs
11:44:06 <Nothing\> or the white stuff in those kinder bars
11:44:23 <Nothing\> it's sooo tasty. could do without the pieces of hazel nut, though.
11:44:53 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol i dunno i haven't seen any of his other videos, but that sounds like his MO
11:45:52 <rust_collector> yeah, try that link...
11:46:11 <Nothing\> one thing i hate about chocolate, it coats every square inch of the inside of my mouth and nothing seems to get rid of the coating
11:46:34 <Nothing\> it just stays there until bacteria munch away at it and my mouth ends up tasting all sour and gross
11:46:38 <rust_collector> boiling water will
11:46:51 <Nothing\> oh for sure
11:46:55 <Nothing\> or rubbing alcohol
11:47:07 <Nothing\> those are my 2 go-to solvents for cleaning stubborn things
11:47:10 <rust_collector> are you syre?
11:47:45 <Nothing\> i use rubbing alcohol a lot for weed based stuff cuz it works great for the oils and tars that come out as a result of smoking or vaping it
11:48:21 <rust_collector> try to get some slug slime on your hands, and use alcohol to wash it off...
11:49:06 <Nothing\> except you use a pipe and you end up with a clump of tar the size of a golf ball stuck inside it. there's just no way you can get rid of something like thath. So I just throw it away and buy a new en.
11:49:20 <Nothing\> they're only like $20 tops anyways
12:04:49 Quit: ThunderSqueak ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
12:31:12 <arch> Bern nii-san: https://i.redd.it/xz0r3da9s7841.jpg
12:33:59 <rust_collector> burn nissan: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_965/qborpgqyr6fcpbxxs0ta.png
12:35:45 <arch> Nissan nii-san: https://i.redd.it/mffuf7tvn9d21.jpg
12:36:15 <rust_collector> I guess someone has to...
12:39:07 <arch> rust_collector, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOvBo6zXUG0
12:40:30 <Nothing\> ugh why do they make ROM collections where every fucking ROM is individiually zipped
12:40:41 <Nothing\> seriously, what's the point of that?
12:41:01 <Nothing\> i mean i know some emulators will open a ROM in a zip file, but it's not a universal feature
12:41:04 <arch> save bandwidth
12:41:15 <arch> stop being a lazy, ungrateful prick
12:42:08 <Nothing\> i don't think bandwidth is much of an issue these days when i can DL a 10gb file in like 10-15 minutes
12:42:37 <Nothing\> i'm not even sure what my bandwidth is. I think it's around 250mbps down
12:44:02 <Nothing\> oh, it's not every individual ROM, thank goodness
12:44:20 <Ampera> if it's that big of a deal just write a script to systematically decompress them
12:44:25 <Nothing\> it's just one of those RAR packs with several dozen parts to it
12:45:04 <Nothing\> but i've had ROM packs where they were all individually zipped or rarred at some point
12:45:06 <arch> $ unrar x part1.rar
12:45:09 <arch> that's all it takes
12:45:46 <Nothing\> yeah i'm pretty sure i could highlight themall and the right click menu would have something relevant
12:46:18 <arch> use linux like all the smart people
12:46:23 <Ampera> ^
12:47:05 <Nothing\> linux is useless for my needs
12:47:15 <Ampera> your needs are shit
12:47:22 <Nothing\> i used it for 2 years and found it to be more of a nuissance than anything
12:47:30 <Ampera> you used it on a raspberry pi
12:47:33 <arch> lolol
12:48:09 <Nothing\> it's not like i needed to render videos or 3d images or anything with it
12:48:19 <Ampera> what the hell is a 3D image
12:48:21 <Nothing\> i was just IRCing and web browsing mostly
12:48:57 <Nothing\> i got a 3D image for ya right here!
12:49:39 <Ampera> 3D modeling is actually quite possible on Linux, Blender is an incredibly well supported and maintained piece of completely free software used by a good number of people.
12:49:58 <Nothing\> https://tinyurl.com/y2sn7l7w
12:50:01 <Ampera> DaVinci Resolve is also available for Linux, and despite having some format limitations, is incredible versatile
12:50:07 <Nothing\> there's your 3d image
12:50:29 <Nothing\> and that's one reference i doubt you'll get
12:51:03 <Nothing\> but why do sites need such horrendously long URLs?
12:51:16 <Nothing\> the one for that was almost 2500 characters long
12:51:20 <Ampera> Nothing\, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/776625177156911104/scrot40.png
12:51:36 <Nothing\> like, are they trying to produce enough URLs to last until the heat death of the universe?
12:51:54 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol clever
12:52:00 <Nothing\> i bet that'd drive a lot of people nuts
12:52:03 <Ampera> no
12:52:06 <Ampera> that's actually what I got
12:52:11 <Nothing\> oh
12:52:13 <Ampera> your link busted
12:52:15 <Ampera> n00b
12:52:18 <Nothing\> boo-urns
12:52:25 <Nothing\> lemme get a more realistic link
12:52:27 <Ampera> i was saying boo-urns
12:52:34 <arch> please no tentacle hentai. this is a Christian channel.
12:52:41 <Ampera> yeah, BSDM only
12:52:45 <Ampera> er, BDSM
12:52:48 <arch> damn straight
12:52:50 * Ampera can't initialism today
12:52:52 <Ampera> arch, or gay
12:52:53 <Nothing\> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/93/c8/07/93c807fa80c345e5b403061c4a8d6390.jpg
12:52:57 <Nothing\> there Ampera
12:53:03 <arch> :3
12:53:03 <Ampera> oh nice, Windows entertainment pack
12:53:08 <Ampera> ski-free
12:53:10 <Nothing\> can't go wrong with pinterest
12:53:15 <Ampera> of course you can
12:53:25 <Nothing\> Ampera, oh yeah i forgot it came with windows back in the day
12:53:29 <Ampera> some right shit porn on pinterest
12:53:32 <Nothing\> ya know what game was the shit?
12:53:32 <Ampera> it didn't
12:53:36 <Nothing\> jezz ball
12:53:36 <arch> why is pinterest even in existence? i dont think i've EVER needed to use pinterest
12:53:38 <Ampera> no copies of windows came with it
12:53:52 <Ampera> arch, the Canadians seem to like it
12:53:58 <Ampera> for some bizarre reason
12:54:01 <Nothing\> Ampera, you've gotta show your cats jezz ball cuz mine loved it
12:54:10 <Nothing\> or pong
12:54:12 <Ampera> no thank you
12:54:31 <Nothing\> what? you've got something against showing video games to cats?
12:54:37 <Ampera> Yes.
12:55:01 <Nothing\> how come?
12:55:12 <Ampera> I consider it dumb, boring, and a waste of time
12:55:18 <Ampera> my life is already full of that
12:55:18 <EEVBlog> 42, Ampera!
12:55:22 * Ampera hugs EEVBlog
12:55:37 <Nothing\> nah if you find the right one it can be a fun way to play with your cat Ampera
12:55:48 <Nothing\> and good brain stimulation for them
12:55:51 <Ampera> I play with my cat as nature intended, if you catch my cold.
12:56:04 <Nothing\> i do
12:56:13 <Ampera> Sicko.
12:56:18 <Nothing\> one interesting thing i learned about playing with cats recently
12:56:45 <Nothing\> is that the golden rule with kittens is you never use your limbs as toys
12:57:25 <Nothing\> cuz then they'll just start attacking you randomly when you don't want it because you basically trained them to attack your arms and hands
12:57:55 <Nothing\> it's interesting cuz i never thought of that before, but it definitely applied with smokey
12:58:09 <Ampera> my cats really don't give that much of a shit
12:58:15 <Nothing\> he was a viscious cat until he grew up and learned to be more gentle with us
12:59:09 <Nothing\> although i still have a bunch of claw marks on my feet, but that's from using my feet to try and make them move so i kinda had it coming.
12:59:17 <Ampera> you're making me hungry Nothing\
12:59:18 <Ampera> stop that
12:59:57 <Nothing\> like smokey would be sitting inthe track of the patio door so i'd start nudging him with my foot and he'd swipe at me and get one of his claws stuck inside my skin
13:00:11 <Nothing\> which is one of the worst feelings in the world
13:00:34 <Ampera> Nothing\, do you enjoy instant noodles?
13:00:54 <Nothing\> he was panicking and started pulling on it harder which just hurt like hell. So I had to stop him and manually remove his claw like a damn fish hook.
13:01:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, some of them I do
13:01:35 <Nothing\> like I get this chicken chow mein stuff from the dollar store that's pretty damn good
13:01:44 <Nothing\> but i'm not a huge fan of ramen
13:02:03 <Ampera> I've actually been eating some quite novel packaged instant noodles for a little while
13:02:09 <Nothing\> maybe once in a blue moon, depending on what flavor it is
13:02:17 <Ampera> I go to the local asian supermarket and get quite a load of them, and they're usually quite neat
13:02:27 <Ampera> most of them tend to be far more advanced than the normal ramens we have here
13:02:31 <Nothing\> yeah man i don't mind the more expenive ones at all
13:02:33 <Ampera> (and a lot of them aren't even ramen)
13:02:36 <Nothing\> except this pho i bought
13:02:43 <Nothing\> it tasted like damn metal=
13:02:45 <Ampera> No this isn't like the fancier ones in bowls or stuff like that
13:02:58 <Nothing\> like somebody soaked a bunch of copper in it or something
13:03:05 <Ampera> this is the same form factor, pretty much, as normal instant ramen in a brick, but they're often different noodles, and will have more complicated flavorings.
13:03:20 <Nothing\> oh okay
13:03:27 <Nothing\> like the ones with the oil packets
13:03:29 <Ampera> aye
13:03:48 <Ampera> My favorite has been MAMA brand ramen from Thailand.
13:03:49 <Nothing\> yeah those can be good, but they're hit or miss for me-
13:04:52 <Nothing\> one nice thing too is i found if i eat two of the chow meins in one day it gives me the shits
13:04:53 <Ampera> I've never had one that I didn't like, aside from a couple flavors of one brand
13:04:58 <Ampera> but I liked the rest of that brand
13:05:01 <Nothing\> so it cleans me right out
13:05:12 <Ampera> I don't like any of the fancier ones as they have vegetables in them
13:05:13 <Nothing\> probably cuz there's like 30g of fat per serving
13:05:19 <Ampera> and I can't eat vegetables
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13:05:27 <Nothing\> and all of that fat is oil
13:05:33 <Nothing\> hey MrMobodies
13:05:44 <Nothing\> we're just talking instant noodles
13:06:17 <Ampera> that's one nice thing about these HRT pills, my random boners are almost gone
13:07:01 <Ampera> Really the main benefit they're giving me now is they're making me a lot more chill, but my guess is that's more the testosterone suppressor than anything else
13:07:04 <Nothing\> nice
13:07:18 <Nothing\> one thing i noticed, is if i masturbate, i get more random boners
13:07:32 <Nothing\> so the less you do that, the less random boners you'll get
13:07:41 <Ampera> I've never masturbated in my life.
13:07:48 <Nothing\> no shit?
13:07:57 <Nothing\> now that's rare
13:07:57 <Ampera> Dead serious. I've made attempts, but never successfully
13:08:00 <Ampera> it just doesn't work for me
13:08:05 <Nothing\> huh
13:08:06 <Ampera> I get no pleasure from doing anything to it
13:08:18 <Nothing\> well it's part physical and part mental, too
13:08:30 <Nothing\> or part finding good material to look at
13:08:36 <Ampera> My guess is it's probably part of the disorder
13:08:47 <Nothing\> that's what i was thinking
13:08:49 <Ampera> oh no I do watch porn, and I do find other ways to pleasure myself, just not using normal masturbation
13:09:04 <Ampera> I'll leave those methods to your imagination
13:09:06 <rust_collector> hmm, Ampera other than that, how is that project going for you?
13:09:25 <Nothing\> because of your sexuality there aren't really any thoughts you can come up with that'll help things out
13:09:42 <Ampera> rust_collector, the immense doubts and double-questioning has started to abate, but I'm not sure if that's because I've alleviated them or they're just not hot on my mind at the moment
13:09:47 <MrMobodies> Hello
13:09:48 <Nothing\> much less any material to consume while you do it
13:09:52 <Ampera> Nothing\, how so
13:10:00 <Ampera> I have quite strong sexual attractions
13:10:09 <Nothing\> you don't strike me as the sort of person who likes chicks with dicks
13:10:13 <Ampera> no I do not
13:10:18 <Ampera> but I like chicks and I like dicks
13:10:22 <Nothing\> Ampera, i guess i stand corrected
13:10:28 <Ampera> there are no rules here :P
13:10:36 <MrMobodies> not chicks as to chickens?
13:10:43 <Ampera> MrMobodies, chicks as to women
13:10:55 <rust_collector> hmmm, chicken....
13:10:58 <Ampera> otherwise that statement would be quite strange
13:10:59 <Nothing\> man, i started when i was like 7 cuz my parents got me this vibrating massager cuz i had bad knees
13:11:05 <Ampera> you told me
13:11:14 <Nothing\> aye i just realized
13:11:30 <rust_collector> did you try to swallow it?
13:11:37 <Ampera> hot
13:11:41 <Nothing\> lol no
13:11:42 <rust_collector> that would be hard to explain
13:11:52 <rust_collector> bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
13:11:58 <Ampera> anyways, I'm about 1.5 months in, and in another 1.5 months I go back to the clinic for a check-in
13:11:59 <Nothing\> i just did it under a blanket in the living room while watching cartoons with my parents in the room
13:12:04 <Ampera> and probably blood work
13:12:08 <Nothing\> they knew damn well what i was doing
13:12:13 <Ampera> hahaha
13:12:20 <Ampera> that's brash
13:12:24 <Nothing\> eventually they told me stop and my mom got me a garfield massager instead
13:12:37 <Ampera> oh no not garfield
13:12:50 <Nothing\> haha yeah i mean, i couldn't masturbate with garfield
13:13:03 <Nothing\> but by then i already figured out other ways
13:13:09 <Ampera> there have been graver crimes against nature
13:13:26 <Nothing\> Ampera, like masturbating with jon?
13:13:36 <Ampera> anyways, I don't know if I'll ask them to keep going or to just forget about it when I go back there in a month and a half
13:14:09 <Nothing\> now i can't help but picture a jon arbuckle sex doll with the mouth with the hole in it for simulated fellatio
13:14:12 <Ampera> it's still on my mind, almost every day, and it all relies on how much social torture I'm capable of suffering in the long and horrific process
13:14:49 <Ampera> I've suffered so much already, and I'm not sure if I'm capable or willing to go through far more of it to maybe reach some point of normality
13:15:04 <MrMobodies> I see, masterbate, during the pregnancy process but without the woman.
13:15:06 <Ampera> or to just eventually end up drugged, mutilated, depressed, and probably dead by my own hand.
13:15:13 <Ampera> MrMobodies, wha
13:15:25 <rust_collector> I would not be too worried about turning out normal....
13:15:29 <MrMobodies> I hope yu don't end up dead
13:15:34 <MrMobodies> or depressed
13:15:40 <Ampera> too late on the second one
13:15:45 <Nothing\> Ampera, you think maybe you're taking the wrong approach to dealing with your emotional tumult?
13:15:50 <Ampera> Every single day.
13:16:09 <Ampera> However, if this is the wrong approach, through my years of searching and trying to understand myself I haven't learned of the right way to do so
13:16:10 <Nothing\> or are you just nervous about the permanence of what you're doing and sort of second guessing yourself?
13:16:16 <Nothing\> or a bit of both?
13:16:43 <Nothing\> it's a complex issue so i'm sure there are many facets adding to it
13:16:43 <Ampera> I'm nervous about how it will affect the rest of my life. I don't know how it's going to affect my job and the people I want to know and remain friends with
13:17:03 <Ampera> I don't know how it might ruin my chances at a prosperous career, or make it hard for other people to even look at me
13:17:16 <Nothing\> right
13:17:21 <Ampera> but I know if I refuse to go through with it, I surrender almost any chance of a sex life or relationships for all time
13:17:24 <MrMobodies> I think I remember you said something about hormones to become a girl
13:17:37 <Ampera> and I will live with desires, dreams, and hopes that I will never be able to satiate
13:17:41 <Nothing\> i mean, regardless of what people say. there is still some discrimination against trans people
13:17:45 <rust_collector> well, if you wait until you are 50, you would probably be much more difficult to look at
13:17:49 <Nothing\> even if it's on a subconscious level
13:17:55 <Ampera> I'm not worried about discrimination.
13:18:15 <Ampera> I'm worried about making people feel awkward, not because they don't like me, but because they're afraid of me.
13:18:25 <Nothing\> Ampera, well the discrimination i meant would lead to diminished opportunities for your career
13:18:34 <Ampera> I suppose
13:18:50 <Nothing\> potentially, anyways
13:18:57 <Ampera> Diminished opportunities isn't the worst thing, and that was all, like it was a scholarship I no longer qualified for, that'd be fine
13:19:23 <MrMobodies> I know they treat disabled people like that in my country in many places.
13:19:28 <Ampera> but I wish to be a social and active person, knowing and interacting with people, and it's just going to make all of that impossible unless I can perfect my lie
13:19:34 <MrMobodies> I like the that word "diminished opportunities"
13:20:03 <Ampera> and honestly, I've seen far more fucked up trans people than I've seen people who it worked out for
13:20:20 <Ampera> but I'm in the shitty situation of really not having any other options besides living a life of strong abstinence
13:20:26 <MrMobodies> Fran is a trans and she seems to be doing well but struggling...
13:20:54 <MrMobodies> I mean Fran Blanche
13:21:07 <Ampera> honestly a lot of trans people make me uncomfortable, for a variety of reasons, and I hate the idea that I'd have to make other people feel like that
13:21:20 <rust_collector> I am not sure about the doing well part. but I don't know her either
13:21:27 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, really? i had no idea
13:21:29 <Ampera> I'd have no problem working or dealing with someone who was trans, consciously I'm far more capable of that, but few can well control their feelings
13:21:52 <MrMobodies> I use to be like that afraid of, in my culture but.... when I went to a special school, I no longer became afraid
13:21:56 <Ampera> I don't really watch Fran's content much, though that's more because I'm not really interested in much of it
13:21:57 <MrMobodies> we had one boy who had both organs
13:22:10 <Nothing\> i've known and been friends with lots of people who were trans and/or dating somebody trans
13:22:12 <MrMobodies> a willy, and a womb
13:22:22 <MrMobodies> and we could not use the showers when he went in there
13:22:35 <Ampera> Nothing\, can you honestly say you knew those people weren't to some degree physically and emotionally out there?
13:22:39 <MrMobodies> all sorts of people went there
13:22:42 <Nothing\> but it was always online so i never got the visual senation when interacting with them
13:22:50 <Ampera> lol
13:22:54 <rust_collector> that is because he let the tentacles out, when he got wet
13:23:21 <Nothing\> i think i'd react different if i knew one irl just because of the mixed siganls i'd get from my mind
13:23:57 <Ampera> It's really a problem that has no solutions
13:24:02 <Nothing\> one part of me thinking this is somebody i can screw or have a relationship with and another part reminding me i don't swing that way
13:24:03 <Ampera> and that's why it drives me absolutely fucking insane
13:24:15 <Nothing\> like looking at those thai lady-boys
13:24:30 <Ampera> and makes me wish I had someone in my life that could help me deal with it, one way or the other
13:24:49 <Nothing\> Ampera, never say never
13:25:05 <Ampera> I didn't say that word.
13:25:06 <Nothing\> i'm sure there is A solution
13:25:10 <rust_collector> yeah, you still have a bit of time
13:25:10 <Nothing\> of some sort
13:25:21 <Ampera> Not one we possess the technology in this day and age to implement.
13:25:31 <Nothing\> exactly
13:25:51 <Ampera> I'm a strong student of history, and I know that there have been millions, even billions of people who had life ending problems that nobody could help them with.
13:25:58 <Ampera> There is no reason to think that I am in any better grace
13:26:08 <Nothing\> or that we've had the cognitive power to consider.
13:26:12 <Ampera> This quite possible is just a disease we have no cure for.
13:26:15 <MrMobodies> That reminds me of Aussie50
13:26:42 <MrMobodies> oh and my cousin who killed himself some days ago due to the lung cancer
13:26:49 <MrMobodies> but that was planned
13:26:59 <MrMobodies> by him
13:27:05 <rust_collector> hmm, that made me think of people who was in an accident, and forgot who they were, and that sort of thing. I wonder, if you did all the body changing, then forgot everything... I guess that could sort of work
13:27:37 <Ampera> rust_collector, you make it sound like the body changing even works
13:27:47 <Ampera> if it did I'm sure I'd have no problems
13:27:53 <Ampera> even if I had to throw significant amounts of money at it
13:28:06 <Ampera> but there are problems I may never have absolutely any solution for
13:28:12 <rust_collector> well, but if you do not remember a thing...
13:28:15 <Ampera> my voice, my genitals, etc.
13:28:27 <Ampera> rust_collector, sounds a lot like suicide
13:28:45 <MrMobodies> I guess changing from a man to a woman would require surgery
13:28:48 <Ampera> when you measure the value of a person by their memories and the personality those create, to lose that is to lose your life.
13:28:57 <MrMobodies> and it can be woryying that something could happen
13:28:57 <rust_collector> hmm, in a way. personality suicide
13:29:10 <MrMobodies> during the sugery
13:29:12 <Ampera> MrMobodies, in the end, those surgeries are largely cosmetic.
13:29:26 <MrMobodies> over the skin kind
13:29:33 <Ampera> They are limited in what they can do, they are very expensive, and in the measure of things like vocal changes and genitals, they are insanely flawed
13:29:34 <MrMobodies> I suppose that's okay
13:29:59 <MrMobodies> oh and some are flawed
13:30:34 <Ampera> I'm not saying flawed like I become immunocompromised, I mean flawed like they don't accomplish what they set out to do in the first place
13:31:11 <MrMobodies> okay so it is not going to be perfect.
13:31:23 <Ampera> and that's the problem, because for it to work, it needs to be almost perfect.
13:31:56 <Ampera> It's an illusion that must have no holes, and if I look and move convincingly, but the moment I open my mouth balls deep mcgee comes out, that's just not going to cut it
13:32:05 <MrMobodies> if you came to England, and get a citizenship, apparently I heard you can have it done free on the NHS
13:32:20 <Ampera> Well I was technically a citizen until you guys left the EU
13:32:21 <Ampera> so
13:32:29 <Ampera> but I'm not concerned about money
13:32:37 <Ampera> I'm on track to have a very financially prosperous future
13:32:48 <MrMobodies> that's noce
13:33:07 <MrMobodies> financially prosperous should help with the costs
13:33:25 <Nothing\> https://www.cs.drexel.edu/~bls96/museum/CARDIAC_manual.pdf
13:33:28 <Ampera> ultimately I'm just tired of dealing with it
13:33:30 <Nothing\> this is a pretty neat idea
13:33:49 <Nothing\> it's a "computer" made out of cardboard envelopes and what not
13:34:22 <Nothing\> to demonstrate to students in the 70's how computers work without having to dish out the money for one
13:35:12 <MrMobodies> nice learning resource
13:35:20 <Ampera> One caveat of my disorder is I am 100% confident it is derived from sexual drive and desire
13:35:31 <Nothing\> but there are online simulators of it
13:35:37 <Ampera> which is why these hormones, and most specifically the blockers, are helping, because they dull those sensations
13:35:38 <MrMobodies> I read abook on data processing that was like that but not as detailed
13:35:47 <Ampera> but I almost wonder if there may be some other medical solution to that.
13:36:09 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, i've got 2 interesting books on my bucket list right now
13:36:15 <MrMobodies> oh yes
13:36:26 <Ampera> It's extreme, but maybe some sort of castration would work, to completely eliminate testosterone from my body. The only issue is that eliminating testosterone like that has serious consequences.
13:36:31 <MrMobodies> I think it was "Data Processing by Cameron Hay"
13:36:31 <Nothing\> one is about various functions and memory mapping the commodore 128
13:36:52 <Ampera> alright I'll stop going on and make myself some food or something, sorry to keep going on about it
13:36:57 <Nothing\> and the other is called "I am Error"
13:37:01 <MrMobodies> if I read a book I don't suppose you can help me sometimes...
13:37:08 <MrMobodies> it is the interpretation
13:37:15 <MrMobodies> I look on a dictionary and still get it wrong
13:37:23 <Nothing\> which is about the hardware and history of the development of the famicom/NES
13:37:36 <Nothing\> and otherthings, i'm sure
13:37:56 <rust_collector> Ampera, it is fine, it is sort of interesting. and confusing
13:38:03 <MrMobodies> okay Nintendo stuff
13:38:06 <Ampera> rust_collector, that's the definition of my life.
13:38:20 <rust_collector> well, at least it is interesting....
13:38:21 <MrMobodies> there is something that kind of props up
13:38:31 <MrMobodies> I ask myself "Why Am I here?"
13:38:41 <MrMobodies> I could never answer that question as today
13:38:46 <MrMobodies> I mean living
13:38:50 <Ampera> There is no reason.
13:38:55 <Ampera> You exist because it just happened like that.
13:39:03 <Nothing\> here's the one about mapping the commodore 128
13:39:05 <Nothing\> https://www.cubic.org/~doj/c64/mapping128.pdf
13:39:07 <Ampera> Nobody besides your mother and father created you, and they had their own reasons or lack thereof
13:39:09 <MrMobodies> I have some theories but they are insane
13:39:10 <rust_collector> I am pretty simple like that, it is because your parrents made you
13:39:18 <Ampera> Existence is simply here because it is
13:40:08 <Nothing\> and i'm not sure where i got "i am error" from
13:40:15 <Ampera> Zelda
13:40:16 <MrMobodies> I see
13:40:23 <Nothing\> i can't seem to find it, but i know a pdf exists
13:40:27 <MrMobodies> thank you Nothing, for the pdf
13:40:33 <Nothing\> Ampera, aye, but there's a book with that name
13:40:35 <rust_collector> I think that there is not reason to exist, you have to make a reason yourself.
13:40:48 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, any time. I thought it was very interesting.
13:41:01 <MrMobodies> I'll take a read tomorrow and that other one
13:41:09 <Nothing\> and with VICE you can tinker with the c128 to your heart's content
13:41:22 <Ampera> why would I need that if I have a real C128 right next to me
13:41:35 <MrMobodies> I do have some magazines from the 70s
13:41:39 <MrMobodies> I might post on the eevblog
13:41:58 <Nothing\> the cool thing about the 128 being that it has a monitor in it. so you can write code directly in machine language
13:42:17 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, ah yeah i've got a ton of collectioons of various magazines
13:42:40 <Nothing\> there's one i've been looking for to no avail, i can't even remember what magazine it was in anymore
13:42:42 <rust_collector> well, good night. It is too late, as usual
13:43:00 <Nothing\> but it had an article in it about making your own pong machine
13:43:01 <MrMobodies> well good night rust collector
13:43:15 <MrMobodies> that would be nice to see one day
13:43:19 <Nothing\> which was pretty awesome circa late 70s
13:43:27 <rust_collector> make a ping pong machine
13:44:36 <Nothing\> here's a video about it
13:44:38 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdrz5RenmBQ&ab_channel=JulianIlett
13:44:49 <Nothing\> he made it, or part of it at least
13:45:06 <Nothing\> it's pretty cool using 555 timers to generate graphics on a TV
13:45:41 * Ampera has a can of peaches
13:46:53 <Nothing\> except it makes me cringe to see him using trimmer pots in that way
13:47:32 <Nothing\> considering trim pots are only good for a few hundred cycle cuz they're not meant to be used for stuff like volume adjustment or stuff the consumer would adjust
13:47:51 <Nothing\> that's where you get those begger ones
13:48:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, millions of peaches
13:48:04 <Nothing\> peaches for me
13:48:09 <Nothing\> millions of peaches
13:48:15 <Ampera> please stop
13:48:16 <Nothing\> peaches for free
13:48:39 <Nothing\> movin to the country, gonna eat a lotta peaches
13:48:47 <Ampera> /kick Nothing\
13:49:00 <Nothing\> lol i actually just watched that video a few weeks ago
13:49:15 <Nothing\> btw keep in mind this is gonna get the song stuck in my head for weeks
13:49:25 <Nothing\> so it's me who will probably suffer most
13:50:35 <MrMobodies> is a joke appropriate now?
13:50:42 * Ampera chucks Nothing\ in a metal lathe, turns him down
13:50:53 <Ampera> MrMobodies, jokes are against the rules on this channel
13:50:59 <MrMobodies> okay
13:51:01 <Ampera> there's nothing funny about being funny
13:51:17 <MrMobodies> no jokes
13:51:24 <Ampera> Comedy is not a joking matter.
13:51:50 <Ampera> people could get hurt
13:51:55 <MrMobodies> Comedy not about jokes
13:51:55 <Ampera> like slipping and falling on a Peel P50
13:52:00 <Ampera> then you ruin a classic car
13:52:07 <Nothing\> it's all fun and games when somebody loses an eye
13:52:43 <MrMobodies> It was about Trump, I have never seen anyone behave like that before
13:52:43 <Ampera> It's all fun and games until some kid dies
13:52:45 <Ampera> Then it's hilarious
13:52:50 <MrMobodies> as president
13:53:02 <Ampera> you obviously haven't seen many presidents
13:53:06 <Nothing\> man i bought these omega-3 capsules, right
13:53:07 <MrMobodies> I know Nixon got impeached
13:53:09 <Ampera> WRONG
13:53:10 <Ampera> WRONG
13:53:12 <MrMobodies> oh
13:53:18 * Ampera stamps WRONG onto Nothing\'s forehead
13:53:19 <Nothing\> then i do some reading on omega-3 fatty acids
13:53:27 <Nothing\> turns out they don't really do much at all
13:53:47 <Ampera> MrMobodies, he was impeached but the impeachment didn't remove him from office.
13:53:50 <Ampera> He resigned.
13:53:56 <Nothing\> i mean, there's evidence they might do a little bit for cognitive function, and health
13:53:59 <MrMobodies> oh he decided to leave
13:54:03 <Nothing\> but nothing about preventing cancer
13:54:12 <Ampera> actually, iirc he wasn't even impeached.
13:54:24 <Ampera> MrMobodies, impeachment isn't actually removing a politician, it's the trial needed in order to do so
13:54:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, well the thing is, trump doesn't HAVE to concede for biden to take over
13:54:35 <Nothing\> it's just the classy thing to do
13:54:43 <Ampera> what do youmean
13:54:46 <Ampera> Trump won the electin
13:54:48 <Ampera> er, election
13:54:57 <Nothing\> but there's no law that says the next president can't come into power unless the old one concedes
13:55:10 <Ampera> but he got reelected though
13:55:10 <MrMobodies> I read the article wrongly, it was a recommendation but he left.
13:55:16 <MrMobodies> oh
13:55:42 <Nothing\> but sometimes if there's a chance the other guy might win, they may not concede right away
13:56:01 <Nothing\> like al gore didn't concede initially to dubya cuz it was such a close race
13:56:10 <Nothing\> but when it was clear he had lost, he conceded
13:56:30 <Ampera> but trump won though
13:56:35 <Ampera> he'll win the next one too
13:56:49 <Ampera> congress will definitely give him an exemption to the term limit
13:56:51 <Nothing\> 70 more years!
13:57:28 <MrMobodies> bringing jobs back into the states seems his big thing
13:57:33 <Nothing\> i think if it came down to that, Ampera the american people would start to revolt
13:57:40 <Ampera> they're already revolting
13:57:45 <Nothing\> key words being start to
13:57:53 <MrMobodies> even some of family have from Canada to New York and found jobs there that they couldn't find before
13:58:00 <Ampera> America has been in a state of on fire for the whole damn year
13:58:12 <Nothing\> i mean, historically americans haven't been too great at revolting with the millenials
13:58:26 <Nothing\> look at how well the occupy movement went
13:58:38 <Nothing\> as soon as it got cold, everybody fucked off
13:58:38 <Ampera> oh no, millenials are great at breaking into homes and businesses, destroying people's property and causing mass injury.
13:58:42 <Ampera> It's just what they're best at
13:59:11 <Nothing\> meanwhile across the world, everyone in crimea was fighting tooth and nail in a real fight to keep russia from annexing them
13:59:27 <Nothing\> even though that still happened, at least they fought
13:59:51 <Nothing\> and in much more bitter cold than those poor new yorkers ever had to deal with
14:02:53 <MrMobodies> Ampera, know anything about Vlans and segregation?
14:03:05 <Ampera> not much
14:03:17 <Ampera> I know in general how they work, and how they're implemented, but I've never actually set one up
14:03:45 <MrMobodies> Netgear 48 port switch Layer 2. I want to separate each port but allow traffic to port 1 where the router is
14:03:51 <MrMobodies> so that nothing can communicate
14:03:59 <MrMobodies> I made it work but there are unexpected issues
14:04:01 <Ampera> Can't help you, ask Halcyon
14:04:07 <MrMobodies> okay
14:04:13 <Ampera> networking is his thing
14:04:25 <MrMobodies> I'll wait to Halycon returns
14:06:11 <MrMobodies> well I got to sleep soon, someone is coming to cut some of the coniffers but they musn't cut some ones down
14:06:18 <Nothing\> the one thing i can't help but think
14:06:20 <MrMobodies> I don't want to see the street lights again
14:06:31 <Nothing\> is how after obama was voted in and dubya was out
14:06:40 <Nothing\> everybody thought everything was going to change
14:06:45 <Nothing\> but little to nothing did
14:07:18 <Nothing\> i can't help but wonder if the people against trump are just building themselves up to be disappointed like that again
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14:13:11 <Nothing\> i think we should put a cat on the space station
14:13:13 <Nothing\> for moral
14:15:26 <Nothing\> i think it would be a huge boost to moral if they had a cat floating around with them
14:15:34 <Nothing\> *morale
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18:16:01 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:29:40 <T3sl4> mornin Ysjoelfir
18:36:04 * Ysjoelfir hugs T3sl4 's plunger
18:37:10 <hsn> Morning to both of u
18:37:21 * Ysjoelfir hugs hsn 's sand
18:37:42 <hsn> T3sl4: its 1:37am
18:37:48 <hsn> Did u sleep?
18:38:00 <Ysjoelfir> no, its 8:37
18:38:16 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: its 10:38 here
18:38:19 <T3sl4> but how can i sleep if i don't sleep?
18:39:02 <hsn> Im checking my sanity logic T3sl4
18:44:49 <Ysjoelfir> Please continue doing that at the brain of mr. head of dev, hsn
18:46:16 <Ysjoelfir> I assume there is something wrong. at least I can't immagine why one would otherwise a mail like "in short: what you wrote in that manufacturing reference is utter bullshit!!!", when he hasn't even built one, ever.
18:57:20 <Halcyon> Mew
18:57:45 <T3sl4> µ
18:57:50 <Halcyon> :)
19:01:06 <Ysjoelfir> hi Halcyon
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19:16:43 <Halcyon> How's it going?
19:20:43 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: doing wut? XD
19:20:51 <Ysjoelfir> I'm doubting the sanity of mr. head of dev, as usual, but beside that...
19:21:04 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - sticking your probes into his brain
19:21:27 * hsn wiggles
19:21:37 <hsn> Mr head of dev meaning my boss?
19:22:03 <hsn> He is no dev head .. xD .. he also dont say he is ..
19:23:13 <Ysjoelfir> no, my boss.
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19:32:37 <K> hello
19:32:50 <Ysjoelfir> hello K
19:32:59 * Ysjoelfir offers fresh pumpkin soup to everyone
19:33:34 <K> Nein! Verboten!
19:33:47 <Ysjoelfir> o.o
19:33:59 * Ysjoelfir slowly retracts his hand and eats all the soup by himself
19:34:00 <K> the devil berriy!
19:34:45 <K> pumpikins are edible only when pickled
19:36:34 <K> https://i.redd.it/2sc219sdpsy51.jpg
19:38:05 <Ysjoelfir> all because of those pesky pumpkins!
19:44:26 <Halcyon> I love pumpkin soup
19:44:40 <Halcyon> Especially with a buttload of pepper and some chilli flakes
19:44:48 <Halcyon> Maybe even a little sour cream :)
19:45:11 <Ysjoelfir> this is a mild one with basically just pumpkin, onions, a hitload of garlic and some coconut milk
19:45:55 <Halcyon> The pepper/chilli can go in after
19:46:02 <Halcyon> Fresh cracked pepper and lots of it
19:48:47 <K> cease the pumpkin-talk
19:55:42 * Halcyon throws a mango at K
19:56:16 <steve30> hi
19:56:17 <K> eew.
19:56:20 <K> mangos are even worse
19:56:56 <K> they taste like soap, fish and spruce needles
19:57:21 <Ysjoelfir> With that I agree with you, K :D
19:57:23 <Ysjoelfir> I hate mangos
19:57:48 <Halcyon> You guys have no idea
19:58:54 <K> yes we do
19:59:07 <Halcyon> Lies, all lies
19:59:27 <K> hence the vehement reaction to anything mango related
19:59:55 <Ysjoelfir> well, I talked about that with hsn once I think. I assume mangos we get here in europistan are waaay different to those you can get in other places of worlistan
20:00:35 <Ysjoelfir> GRAAAAAAAAA
20:00:41 <Ysjoelfir> the cat just puked onto my feet -.-
20:01:33 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
20:03:14 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
20:05:18 <Ysjoelfir> lets see....
20:05:30 * Ysjoelfir holds his inhalation stick in front of the steve30 's nose
20:13:08 <Ysjoelfir> nope, no puke on my feet. doesn't work with all cats
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20:36:40 <T3sl4> guh
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20:39:26 * steve30 hugs T3sl4
20:39:34 <T3sl4> *hugs*
20:39:58 <T3sl4> so the power went out again :/
20:40:40 * Ysjoelfir hands T3 his 500W power generator
20:41:30 <hsn> Ysjoelfir tbh i think that mr head doesnt like u ... Idk why but thats the feeling
20:43:16 <Ysjoelfir> nah. mr. head loves me :) We have great conversations from time to time
20:43:32 <Ysjoelfir> but T3sl4 hates me.He hates everyone.
20:43:52 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir
20:44:05 <Ysjoelfir> see!? he's harrassing me!
20:44:08 * Ysjoelfir hugs T3sl4 back
20:44:29 * T3sl4 grabs Ysjoelfir's butt
20:44:46 <Ysjoelfir> oh, now he's nice again.
20:46:01 <hsn> U think grabbing ass is nice
20:46:03 <hsn> ?
20:47:21 <Ysjoelfir> yes. ask nothing/.
20:54:17 * steve30 feels cold
20:55:47 <T3sl4> oh hey, with the power back i can make a coffee
20:56:07 <steve30> :)
20:59:52 * Ysjoelfir just read "with the powerbank I can make a coffee" and wonders what enormous powerbanks T3sl4 must have
21:00:04 * Ysjoelfir hands steve30 a duvet
21:02:08 * T3sl4 starts Ysjoelfir an account at his bank
21:02:32 * Ysjoelfir feels energized
21:04:40 * T3sl4 charges interest
21:07:47 * Ysjoelfir just dropped his engagement ring in the toilet while cleaning his butt >_>
21:07:59 <Ysjoelfir> don't tell mrs spouse... she will never ever again touch my hand otherwise
21:08:10 <steve30> :/
21:08:22 <T3sl4> i had no idea you felt that way about your toilet
21:08:27 <Ysjoelfir> lol
21:13:05 <hsn> I can extract it .. thats what im doing last 2 years
21:13:22 <Ysjoelfir> I already have it back, but thanks :D
21:13:22 <hsn> Dropping stuff at toilet and extracting them
21:13:31 * Ysjoelfir is cleaning his hand vigorously
21:13:48 <hsn> Nothing beats detol
21:13:51 <hsn> And colonia
21:14:05 <hsn> Dettol
21:14:22 <Ysjoelfir> plain old vodka works fine
21:14:34 <hsn> XD
21:18:46 <hsn> Just saw a video of some egyptian who was working (but fired) as central bank accounting and showed how high level ppl are robbing the country .. setting fire on him self
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21:19:50 <Ysjoelfir> huh
21:20:39 <hsn> https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egyptian-sets-himself-fire-tahrir-square-protest-corruption
21:21:05 <Ysjoelfir> genius.
21:22:24 <hsn> Well that's how ppl protest here
21:22:28 <hsn> XD
21:25:57 <Ysjoelfir> I think I prefer the european way :D
21:43:50 <hsn> T3sla sleeping?
21:44:03 <hsn> T3sl4: ://www.instagram.com/reel/CHD6-RGqHtM/?igshid=sxumm70e4a3p
21:44:08 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CHD6-RGqHtM/?igshid=sxumm70e4a3p
21:44:40 <T3sl4> aw kitties
21:46:45 <Halcyon> Stupid cats
21:48:25 <T3sl4> stupid Halcyon
21:49:42 <steve30> stupid humans
21:50:54 * T3sl4 dangles a fuzzy toy over steve30
21:51:03 <steve30> \o/
21:51:33 * Ysjoelfir pokes the fuzz
21:52:28 * T3sl4 dangles it over Ysjoelfir too
21:52:44 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
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22:03:38 * Ysjoelfir replaces T3sl4 's powerbank with his generator, hoping that it'll be more stable
22:05:01 * T3sl4 pats the generator
22:10:49 * steve30 fires some 5G deathbeams into the channel :)
22:10:49 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSFJv70pFuI
22:12:01 <Halcyon> Pew pew
22:12:17 <damian> pee pee
22:13:32 <Halcyon> I actually do need to go, thanks for the remind :P
22:28:15 <steve30> i'm going out for a walk in the sunshine
22:28:28 <Halcyon> I'm going to bed
22:29:07 <steve30> bed also sounds good
22:41:11 <Ysjoelfir> Just god a phonecall from OrCAD. very nice person, trying to convince me that OrCAD is so much better than Altium xD
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23:01:51 <Ysjoelfir> did that happen to you, too, T3sl4? like, are they doing some sort of campaign?
23:02:02 <Ysjoelfir> as their offering was pretty generous I have to say
23:02:06 <T3sl4> they dont have my contact info
23:02:40 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok. in germanistan we have to have those infos on the website, thats probably why they have that.
23:07:02 <T3sl4> i mean, i have info on my website, but i only ever get spam from china?
23:08:57 <Ysjoelfir> strange. though this call was actually rather nice. nice lady, not... "pushy", just your regular "we could offer you that, if you want you can have an extended free trial, because of corona we also offer strong discounts for small companies, but its fine if you don't want to, bla"
23:41:44 <K> Ysjoelfir, on scale 1-10 - how wrong is this sentence "du mussen arbeiten, die Sonne ist hoch" ?
23:42:41 <Ysjoelfir> hmm...
23:43:10 <K> was tryring to say "you must work, the sun still high"
23:43:22 <K> not sure about mussen
23:43:41 <T3sl4> DU HAST!
23:43:54 <K> ach so
23:44:09 <Ysjoelfir> first part, before the comma: 9/10. second part: 8.5/10. both in combination: 5/10. you wouldn't say it in that combination, you would more likely say: "Du musst arbeiten, es ist noch hell"
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23:45:03 <K> i see.
23:45:21 <Ysjoelfir> like "its still bright enough [to work]"
23:45:54 <K> aha
23:46:14 <K> but if referring to the sun explicitly?
23:46:19 <K> for some strange reason
23:46:29 <K> just to sound wierd
23:47:13 <Ysjoelfir> you could say "Die Sonne steht noch hoch am Himmel" or "Die Sonne ist noch nicht unter gegangen" (the sun is still high in the sky / the sun hasn't set yet)
23:53:09 <K> gegangen is too much for me
23:53:19 <Ysjoelfir> xD
23:53:34 <K> i was surprised i remembered those words
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