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00:48 <electrohead> o/
01:32 <rust_collector> hi mr head
01:54 <electrohead> hey mate
03:40 <rust_collector> what is happening over there? I am just waking up, and eating noodles
04:24 <rust_collector> It is tricky to find the correct spice mix for noodles... and when you do, you probably did not write down what it was, lol
08:53 <Ysjoelfir> I suggest light miso sauce, some broth and just plain salt and pepper
09:07 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi misters head and rust
09:53 <rust_collector> mornings dr S
10:56 <electrohead> just shaved my head, getting a shower soon and getting ready for work
10:59 <electrohead> yay
11:24 <Ysjoelfir> so now you are mr. except from the balls absolutely no hair
12:06 <rust_collector> you should probably wax and buff your upper head. it will keep snow and leaves from sticking to it
12:23 <rust_collector> and bats and squirrels
12:31 <Ysjoelfir> and sheep
13:08 <rust_collector> sheep are sticky, but it does help a lot yes
14:57 <rust_collector> i wish people would bathe their sheep more
15:30 <Ysjoelfir> I immagine they could start to rot if you do that. like getting moldy and stuff
16:46 <electrohead> lol
16:46 <rust_collector> meh. let them rot. maybe people would keep fewer of them around
17:01 <electrohead> yeah there we go, I'll wax my shaft
17:05 <electrohead> hahaha
21:02 <K> that is not a laughing matter!
22:42 <Ysjoelfir> indeed!
23:02 <rust_collector> ok mr serious
26:20 <Ysjoelfir> yes! show him who's the boss!
26:36 <rust_collector> i think I will sharpen some chisels today.
26:54 <rust_collector> just to do something super-fun
27:17 <Ysjoelfir> funny you say that, I am watching a woodworking video where the guy just said "its very important that your chisel is very sharp for this task!" XD
27:28 <rust_collector> or maybe I should do a more proper job on the plane
27:46 <rust_collector> well, it does make it so much more simple to use
27:57 <Ysjoelfir> I assume so
28:00 <K> will they let you on the plane with all those chisels?
28:08 <rust_collector> in my case, yes
28:26 <rust_collector> I can also bring large containers of fluid
28:39 <K> brake fluid?
28:45 <K> or antifreeze?
28:49 <rust_collector> whatever
29:02 <hsn> freeze eh ?
29:08 <hsn> no freeze for sand ppl
29:30 <K> alco-bums there have less choice, yea
29:33 <rust_collector> I really hope you will visit some day, and I will make you freeze
29:34 <hsn> ola mr oxidize
29:49 <rust_collector> ooiih
30:02 <coppice> The rain in Spain stays mainly rusting planes
30:07 <hsn> i hope i visit and get frozen
30:33 <hsn> i want to buy house instead of paying for apartment .. but banks accept no me
30:36 <rust_collector> it is funny, because I can not take a table saw into the airport, but I can take a box of dynamite
31:07 <rust_collector> because tools are dangerous....
31:31 <hsn> rust_collector, u cant cut ppl with dynamite
31:49 <coppice> I used to take 3 phase terminal blocks through airports, and get stopped because they look like a clip of bullets on the x-ray images
33:23 <rust_collector> heh
33:25 <hsn> i noticed somthing wierd ..
33:32 <hsn> in airport scanners
33:48 <hsn> one time it beeped on me .. one of them while the previous ones didnt ..
34:09 <hsn> and when it beeped they acted wierd to me the gaurds .. with some police dog scanning me etc etc
34:13 <hsn> like im a sus
34:16 <hsn> pect
34:20 <rust_collector> some times, they are set so... say every 10th person gets checked
34:38 <coppice> middle eastern? definitely a suspect
34:40 <hsn> ^ exactly what i thought .. there is a random generator in these scanning machines
34:41 <hsn> ?
35:00 <rust_collector> I am not sure how random they are, but sort of yes
35:14 <hsn> or somone manually triggering them for fun
35:15 <hsn> :D
35:26 <coppice> in the US checked are based on the airlines trying to drive customers away
35:28 <rust_collector> they tend to run on windows... so... whatever you can do in that
36:18 <hsn> the passport entry guys .. use sort of dos system ?
37:03 <rust_collector> ok. I don't know. I do not fly out of the country much. I just go to the airport
37:40 <coppice> rust_collector: so, you are really into planes?
37:54 <rust_collector> I am inside planes some times, yes
37:55 <hsn> me flied few times to iran .. last year wanted to visit US thought they wont give me a visa for that
38:47 <hsn> so i didnt put that i visit iran in last 10 years .. my passport was just renewed i got lucky
39:32 <hsn> but that was long proccess ..
41:03 <rust_collector> I got a new passport last year, I think it was. the old one was never used. no one wanted to look at it, lol
41:27 <hsn> clean ?
41:55 <rust_collector> very
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42:31 <rust_collector> wife got a new one the other day, and that is also pretty differnt to the one I got last year
43:47 <hsn> well someone at ur govt is having design change fun ?
43:58 <rust_collector> probably.
45:49 <rust_collector> but mine has one very thick page, with the picture, and probably some id stuff inside, and the book is so stiff and weird, that it is difficult to look thru it, the wifes has a thick-ish page, with a window, and the next page also has a picture, and the pages are so nice and soft
46:56 <hsn> soft pages for ladies
47:00 <hsn> rough for mens
47:22 <rust_collector> i think they should just contact the people in bulgaria that make the fake passports, and have them make the things. it would probably be cheaper than what they do
48:46 <rust_collector> so, Ysjoelfir are you making a box with drawers?
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52:42 <hsn> rust_collector, Ysjoelfir is making mini somthing .. or hmm no .. let him tell u the good news ..
52:47 <hsn> :D
52:57 <rust_collector> wwe
04:24 <Ysjoelfir> are you8 kidding me rusty? :D Are you spying on me?^^ I am indeed watching a video about someone building a box with drawers xD
04:38 <Ysjoelfir> but when you asked I was having a phone call.
05:01 <rust_collector> Maybe I know a thing or 2
05:22 <Ysjoelfir> :P
05:31 <rust_collector> but enough of that... are YOU going to build a box with drawers?
05:59 <Ysjoelfir> while I was having that call I wondered if I should do something with the model airplane that is hanging on my ceiling.
06:15 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I want to build this box. But I wait until christmas as I assume I might get a plane then :)
06:38 <rust_collector> hand it from a string, and start it up....
06:41 <rust_collector> hang
06:59 <Ysjoelfir> I think I'll learn sharpening chisels until then. or build my compressor, as the lathe is nearly finished \o/
07:02 <Ysjoelfir> lol
08:25 <rust_collector> I had a white and red F16, that was hanging of a fishing line from the roof. it ran on 3 aa cells, if I remember right, and it was pretty hard to stop
09:14 <rust_collector> and you don't have to learn sharpening chisels, you just have to do it
09:16 <Ysjoelfir> you should get into model airplanes rusty. you could start them from the roof of your garage and let it fly down the road
09:38 <Ysjoelfir> well, wouldn't help if I would make it even more dull while trying to sharp it, would it?
10:21 <rust_collector> I was somewhat interested earlier this year. but I want a compact-ish plane, that is halfway slow, and electric
10:50 <rust_collector> but... if you have a dull chisel...
10:59 <rust_collector> it is almost difficult to make it worse
11:16 <Ysjoelfir> true^^
11:53 <rust_collector> most of the time, if I use them for more carpentry sort of work, I just sharpen them on the angle grinder
12:26 <rust_collector> if I want to make something nicer... well, that takes a bit more time, but it is not difficult
13:00 <rust_collector> just check the flat part first, before you start working on the edge
13:07 <Ysjoelfir> one thing I want to build not what I have the lathe is a disc sander. Have a nice motor sitting around and a 30cm velcro pad... I just need some sort of coupling between the velcro thing and the motor
13:38 <rust_collector> okeh. how fast is the motor?
14:13 <rust_collector> and... I hope it is nice and full of oomph, as a 30cm disk is a lot of load to spin up
16:33 <Ysjoelfir> its a 1400 rpm motor with.. I think 500 or 800 watts
16:54 <rust_collector> sounds good.
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19:32 <Ysjoelfir> I also got a nice vintage slow running (~700rpm?) drillpress motor sitting around, 500W, with a shaft that goes through the whole motor. I thought about building a polishing thing with it, like having two cloth weels on the shaft.
19:59 <rust_collector> heh, I remember grandpa used an old saw, as a base for a grinding stone. that thing was very very scary.
20:10 <Ysjoelfir> huh oO
20:16 <hsn> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326158760826560515?s=19
20:23 <hsn> Wtf
20:55 <Ysjoelfir> I highly doubt that
21:28 <rust_collector> I think you should try it, but it could be on the slower side. i mean, it will probably work ok, but...
21:45 <Ysjoelfir> I get the impression that mr. Trömp bashed his head against the keyboard that hard that his shift key got stuck
22:10 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, my idea was that it could be beneficial to have it running slow for that, to not heat the material you want to polish.
22:57 <rust_collector> sure. it will just take a while. I guess if you use slightly larger wheels....
23:26 <hsn> R u sure u discuss about drawers?
23:43 <rust_collector> I am sure we are not. he does not want to talk about that
25:10 <rust_collector> but... I guess it also depends on what kind of things would want to polish.
25:31 <coppice> turds, mostly
27:11 <rust_collector> My uncle used to restore pianos, he had a pretty large 3 phase polishing wheel thing, and that thing ran at as many rpms as he could make it, most of the time. i did not ask why, but it seems like that was the way to go for that stuff.
27:49 <Ysjoelfir> no, my turds are shiny enough as they are. I would mostly want to polish... probably things like vintage gas lamps I work on from time to time.
28:16 <rust_collector> hmm, brass and steel?
28:28 <Ysjoelfir> and leaded solder, yes
28:36 <arch> you can polish bald people's heads too
28:36 <rust_collector> that should work
28:47 * Ysjoelfir stares at electrohead
29:16 <rust_collector> when you can stick a toilet plunger on their head, they are polished enough
29:21 <Ysjoelfir> xD
30:09 <rust_collector> I think electrohead should mount a flag to a toilet plunger and wear that as a hat
30:18 <arch> lol
30:25 <Ysjoelfir> lol
30:43 <arch> MABGA: make american baldies great again
30:53 <Ysjoelfir> :P
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46:05 <arch> does using a feedforward capacitor help with better transient response in the case of COT converters?
47:39 <arch> https://www.ti.com/lit/an/slva289b/slva289b.pdf
49:11 <rust_collector> hmmm, now I wonder if I want to use dhl or fedex... dhl is $10 more, but... it is also not fedex
50:32 <arch> why not ups
50:59 <rust_collector> because that is not one of the options
52:17 <electrohead> LOL, ok that's funny, hahaha
52:31 <electrohead> I'm off to work, will be on then o/
53:19 <rust_collector> eh?
53:41 <rust_collector> have fun at le work
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02:14 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
02:20 * Ampera WD-40's rust_collector 
02:37 <rust_collector> OI!
03:19 <rust_collector> wd40 should work as beard oil
09:51 <Ysjoelfir> it does, but it stinks. I prefer Ballistol
12:11 <rust_collector> it is a weird stink. I like it, but not
13:26 <rust_collector> sore of like ozone. it smells nice some times, but not
14:07 <Ysjoelfir> :P
14:11 <Ysjoelfir> its not üppr
14:16 <rust_collector> I guess part of that, these days, is that lots of ozone is often joined by lots of melted plastic
14:53 <Ysjoelfir> true
14:56 <Ysjoelfir> or a laser printer
15:22 <rust_collector> I never print enough to notice. I should try to sniff it, I guess
17:04 <rust_collector> so, I ordered stuff for the wifemobile. so I guess we are keeping it
17:59 <K> the wife?
18:40 <rust_collector> no, the car. I am not so sure about the wife yet. I have to get her diagnosed first
19:23 <Ampera> Sometimes I think I'm weird, and then other times I look over at this channel and realize I'm not so bad after all.
19:54 <Ysjoelfir> xD
19:59 <rust_collector> you will figure out that it is just being human, Ampera
20:28 <Ampera> is that what I am?
20:33 <Ampera> oh well, there's worse things I could be
20:36 * steve30 meows at Ampera 
20:45 <rust_collector> I would not be so sure
20:55 * Ampera gives steve30 a bar of chocolate shaped like a miniDV tape
21:14 <steve30> mmm
21:15 * steve30 nibbles
21:31 <rust_collector> GNAW GNAW GNAW GNAW
32:24 <rust_collector> the wife really likes these chrysler minivans... and I feel I am getting pretty ok at guessing what is wrong with them... But I probably should have looked at it before I ordered parts....
32:42 <rust_collector> otoh... I do not like looking at it
41:08 <K> it rusty.
41:41 <rust_collector> what would make you think that?
41:45 <Kuschelpony> a tip for the microwave oven:
42:09 <Kuschelpony> there are very few decibels between thawing berries and cooking them into a shapeless mass
43:38 <rust_collector> so... the trick is to not use the nuke chamber?
45:34 <Kuschelpony> or to use it more careful than done by a single male who wanted a quick desert
47:09 <rust_collector> so you can sit there with your pink t-shirt, and shrinked socks and eat ice cream and berries
52:09 <rust_collector> ok, time to go to "work" have funners
52:34 <Kuschelpony> i planned youghurt with berries, but instead got yoghurt with berry colored sauce
53:07 <rust_collector> that could work well enough
54:30 <rust_collector> talking about that. I prefer your way, to having a fridge full of berries, and being male, borrowing the extension lead for something... then discovering it unplugged 5 months later
54:43 <Kuschelpony> lol
54:55 <rust_collector> that also involves berry coloured soup
56:51 <rust_collector> okays. good evenight
57:20 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 rusty and hello mr pony
00:10 <Kuschelpony> Thankyou
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11:16 * ThunderSqueak contemplates not buying a minivan now that someone named rust_collector said they are broken o.o
11:18 <ThunderSqueak> :P
11:24 <ThunderSqueak> how are you people?
11:35 <Ysjoelfir> lol
14:05 <arch> aaand done, gonna print this out and do a toner transfer using my amazonbasics laminator. good test run for both. https://i.imgur.com/G2QYYQ7.jpg
15:19 <arch> single layer copperclad PCB, which is why there are so many vias, except, those via points are for routing using enamel wire on top layer
15:35 <Ampera> hullo ThunderSqueak how are you doing
15:53 <Ampera> I just cut up a load of Domino's boxes because I ordered from them twice during my vacation
15:59 <Ampera> today's the last day and I'm debating doing it again
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25:18 * arch orders Ampera one of these: https://youtu.be/20ZjK_ICxrI?t=353
25:55 <Ampera> arch, why would I need a big dick when I have you?
26:02 <Ampera> being a big dick :P
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26:54 <arch> :3
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49:07 <Nothing\> lol trump says he refuses to concede to biden
49:20 <Nothing\> and is putting out lawsuits left right and center to hold up the process
49:52 <Nothing\> i bet none of trumps suits will involve states with low numbers of electoral seats
02:34 <Nothing\> just came across a term i like and will start using from now on
02:39 <Nothing\> Pathological science is an area of research where "people are tricked into false results ... by subjective effects, wishful thinking or threshold interactions."[1][2] The term was first[3] used by Irving Langmuir, Nobel Prize–winning chemist, during a 1953 colloquium at the Knolls Research Laboratory. Langmuir said a pathological science is an area of research that simply will not "go away"—long after it was given
02:39 <Nothing\> the majority of scientists in the field. He called pathological science "the science of things that aren't so."
13:49 <Ysjoelfir> goddamnit T3sl4, this game is freakin' hard on normal difficulty :D
15:30 <T3sl4> yeah, the other day i was playing on normal and didn't finish a single one
16:02 <T3sl4> last run was uh, got fucked by a rock ship with altogether too many missiles, and no defenses
16:11 <T3sl4> was pretty far in too
16:20 <T3sl4> needless to say i've almost always played on easy
16:56 <T3sl4> it's still not easy, you have to know your chances. it'll take dozens of runs to get used to, and you can look up events on the wiki if you like
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19:26 <Ampera> I came up with a neat flanger config on my DSP amp, recorded a bit of Telstar on it, will upload it to my website in a sec
19:51 <Ampera> my DSP amp configs often sound like ass, but this one sounds actually kinda nice
22:11 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/projects/telstar.flac playing is a bit shit, but I think it sounds nice
22:25 <Ampera> electrohead, Nothing\
23:25 <T3sl4> Ampera, seems reasonable
24:25 <Ampera> I have a tendency to compulsively pluck the string more times than I should, it sounds great while playing, but like ass on a recording
26:27 <Ysjoelfir> ah, i thought random events are random. like I had one event now three time. a station on fire, no possibility to scan for lifesigns or whatever, I decided to dock, station blows up. is it the same every time, or is the outcome random?
30:20 <T3sl4> one neat thing about FTL, that may not be easy to see, is it doesn't have any exceptional RNG like critical hits or anything, and the chances of something or other happening is almost always a large fraction, like 50% or 33% or whatever
31:19 <T3sl4> events like station fire, or alien spiders are no joke, tend to be ones you don't want to take chances on: the toss is 50/50, maybe even 67/33 stacked against you i forget, and the cost is high (losing crew)
31:36 <Ysjoelfir> ah, nice. or, not nice in this case^^
31:47 <Ampera> Like an absolute madman I've ordered pizza again
32:11 <T3sl4> blue events are almost always okay to take, either being safer or more rewarding
32:28 <Ampera> Domino's gave me a 20% off coupon so I decided to order one last time for the last day of my vacation
32:55 <Ampera> I got a 14" pizza with 2x bacon, ground beef, italian sausage, ham, salami, and mushrooms, and 64 parmesan bread bites
33:34 <Ysjoelfir> Though its a hard game I realy enjoy playing it ^^
33:39 <T3sl4> more often you'll skip a blue option for strategic reasons, e.g. the tracking a ship into a nebula event which you can win with high enough level engines or sensors, or evade with cloak, etc. well, if you're spoiling for a fight, you might as well fight them rather than evading, right
33:44 * Ysjoelfir offers Ampera some home made gulasch
34:00 * Ampera accepts, offers Ysjoelfir homemade borsch
34:14 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
34:33 * Ysjoelfir puts it into the freezer for tomorrow
35:37 <T3sl4> there's a few augments that kinda crit, like the crystal cruiser's 10% chance to return fire, or the achievement of completely tanking 8 hits in a row on max level engines or whatever it is
36:24 <T3sl4> max engines is >50% evasion so (50%)^8 is a fractional percent chance
36:26 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
37:15 <T3sl4> but you play a hundred games to the final boss and its special attack that dumps all those shots at you at once, and you'll randomly get it
37:19 <T3sl4> or at least, that's how i got it :P
37:38 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha xD that sounds like.. fun^^
37:54 <T3sl4> also, rare drops like high powered weaponry, laser 3, vulcan, glaive
38:04 <T3sl4> get one or even two of those and you can fucking OWN
38:37 <Ysjoelfir> yeah!
39:24 <T3sl4> or even just the special beams, the anti-bio or fire beams can do serious mayhem
39:42 <T3sl4> you have to be really sadistic to use them, they deserve their reputation given in dialog :)
40:12 <Ysjoelfir> I actually acquired a fire beam, but couldn't use it as I got devastated with the next event
40:18 <T3sl4> doh
40:35 <T3sl4> mysterious weapon for 45 scrap?
41:05 <Ysjoelfir> nope. encountered a pirate with four weapons and a drone constantly shooting at me xD
41:30 <Ysjoelfir> I had four hull left. so.... Hey mr Pirate! *poof*
48:33 <T3sl4> yeah, that would happen
55:59 <Halcyon> hsn: You were asking about some of the stuff I do at work. This one was made public yesterday: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/global-online-paedophile-photo-and-video-network-allegedly-uncovered-after-nsw-child-sex-arrest-20201110-p56d6z.html
57:30 <hsn> Halcyon: lol at the one crying near car
58:59 <hsn> He is "im fcked"
00:00 <Halcyon> Yep, pretty much
00:18 <Halcyon> Anyway, time to go to work, laters.
01:27 <hsn> Enjoy
01:28 <hsn> S
16:30 <Nothing\> hey yall
16:36 <Nothing\> scott here
16:47 <Nothing\> sorry, anyone who's seen his videos would get the reference
16:54 <Nothing\> scott the woz
34:48 <Nothing\> this game's weird in that it gives your HP and other values as scientific notation
35:58 <Nothing\> but at the same time, it's helping me be more fluent with scientific notation. I mean, it's one thing to know it. It's another to be able to look at say 1.26e10 and know "oh that's 12.6 billion"
36:09 <Nothing\> which i'm pretty sure it is
36:30 <Nothing\> er no, 126
36:44 * Nothing\ confuses himself
36:58 <Nothing\> see how well it works?
37:53 <Ysjoelfir> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! Died again :D but I came far!
41:54 <Nothing\> watcha playing?
42:12 <Nothing\> you sound like me playing mario kart 8 deluxe trying to get 3 stars on the 150cc cups
42:23 <Ysjoelfir> Thou should ask the T3sl4, as I will be playing a different game now since I promised mrs spouse to do so when I die the next time^^
42:29 <Ysjoelfir> lol
42:48 <Nothing\> i somehow got addicted to this idle game
42:56 <Nothing\> but it's pissing me off more than anything
43:02 <Nothing\> cuz i just want to play something else
43:08 <Nothing\> but i can't pry myself away from it
43:08 <T3sl4> get FTL :P
43:19 <Nothing\> i played the hell out of FTL
43:37 <Nothing\> even cleared it once
43:59 <Nothing\> on normal, cuz this was back when you couldn't unlock anything on easy
44:02 <Nothing\> so what's the point?
44:20 <Nothing\> i think you can unlock some stuff now
44:38 <Nothing\> i think i'm gonna set off some more of that permanganate
44:41 <Nothing\> so much fun
45:50 <Nothing\> most of the games i play these days, or have anyways, are programming based games
46:04 <Nothing\> where you have to use assembly or some other language to solve puzzles
46:26 <Nothing\> they're really fun and unique, and usually based on real languages so the skill carries over in the real world
49:51 Quit: Icedream ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
53:05 <Nothing\> games like tis-100, astra-256, which isn't so much a game but a calculator based computer that you can program using binary instructions. It's actually pretty neat. or Shenzhen i/o, exapunk, MHRD, while true:learn() just off the top of my head
53:32 <Nothing\> code world
53:41 * Ampera sneezes
53:43 * Ampera sneezes
53:45 * Ampera sneezes
53:49 <Nothing\> bless you Ampera
53:55 * Ampera is now cursed
54:04 <Nothing\> you're like i was before methadone stopped my ability to sneeze
54:04 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
54:11 <Nothing\> every time you sneeze you sneeze at least twice
54:17 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
54:26 <Ampera> what's weird is the standard for my sneezes used to be two sneezes
54:28 <Ampera> now it's three
54:35 <Nothing\> now on the very rare occassions that i do sneeze
54:43 <Nothing\> i'll sneeze like 10+ times
54:53 <Nothing\> which at that point, it just stops feels good
55:04 <Nothing\> and you're drooling and spraying crap all over yourself
55:24 <Ampera> oh yeah on occasion if something's irritating my nose, I'll sneeze like nuts, and it's not that it's bad, but what happens is my nose then gets all stuffed up afterwards
55:40 <Ampera> I watched the Apple event for their new ARM macs
55:49 <Ampera> I have to say Apple has really cornered the market.
56:11 <Ampera> Unfortunately they've also changed main enterprises from computers to creating hour long presentations that say absolutely fucking nothing
56:29 <Ampera> they were probably always like that, but they love to use completely and totally meaningless metrics for everything
56:52 <Ampera> it's like the complete polar opposite of AMD, who try to use at least some of the standards people actually compare performance by
56:57 <Nothing\> that's okay
57:06 <Nothing\> i ever tell you i have a hole between my nostrils?
57:18 <Nothing\> like that old cocaine stereotype
57:23 <Nothing\> only mine isn't from cocaine
57:40 <Ampera> my god did you do a nose piercing?
57:55 <Nothing\> nope, it happen completely on its own
58:05 <Nothing\> it's a bit too far up to put a piercing in
58:11 <Nothing\> but i CAN thread stuff through it
58:17 <Ampera> I don't even like pierced ears, never mind pierced anything else
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58:25 <Ampera> oh god Nothing\ you're gonna make me cringe to death on that one
58:50 <Nothing\> but anyways i've been addicted to decongestant nasal sprays since i was a young teen
58:54 <Ampera> I've been able to look at and thing of some pretty fucked up shit, but piercings make lose my shit somewhat
58:59 <Ampera> *thing -> think
59:09 <Nothing\> cuz you use them a few times, and the congest comes back worse, right
59:20 <Nothing\> so you use it to deal with that
59:35 <Ampera> oh, yeah I used one of those nose sprays once or twice
59:38 <Ampera> they never really worked for me
59:55 <Nothing\> and eventually you get this psychological thing where if your nose is congested, it feels like you're suffocating to death slowly
59:57 <Ampera> like they worked a bit, but for a very short period of time, and it wasn't like dynamite to the nostrils
00:09 <Nothing\> especially when trying to sleep
00:12 <Ampera> Nothing\, I get that all the time to some degree
00:21 <Nothing\> every time i start falling asleep i close my mouth and stop breathing
00:28 <Nothing\> so i just keep using the nasal spray
00:33 <Ampera> it's incredibly horrible and one of the most non-painful painful things I have to deal with
00:34 <Nothing\> but anyways
01:06 <Nothing\> i'm not sure how familiar you are with the mechanics of nasal congestion or how topical decongestants like nasal sprays work
01:29 <Ampera> reasonably so, but it's not a topic I enjoy thinking about or discussing
01:49 <Nothing\> but bat causes congestion is the blood vessels in the area swell up and put pressure on the area in the sinuses
01:52 <Ampera> I went to an ENT once in my life
01:54 <Nothing\> thus blocking the way
01:55 <Ampera> that ENT is dead now.
02:22 <Nothing\> the nasal sprays work by constricting these vessels, relieving the pressure and thus opening the airways
02:31 <Nothing\> as well as reducing nasal secretions
02:43 <Nothing\> since they're produced as a result of bloodflow
02:52 <Nothing\> but anyways
03:03 <Nothing\> one day i got a sore or something in my nose, right
03:05 <Ampera> why did you just ask me if I knew how they work if you were going to tell me regardless
03:27 <Nothing\> and it'd crust over into a scab and feel uncomfortable so i'd pick it off
03:37 <Nothing\> and i just kept doing this over and over again
03:46 <Nothing\> until eventually i picked clear through to the other side
03:59 <Ampera> do you ever get the feeling like whoever you're talking to over the internet isn't actually a real person
04:04 <Ampera> just an AI some maniac designed to irritate you?
04:04 <Nothing\> see, it wasn't able to heal properly because the nasal spray was restricting bloodflow to the area
04:11 <Nothing\> and increased bloodflow means increased healing
04:15 <Nothing\> and vice versa
04:33 <Nothing\> Ampera, i feel like that about people in general
04:52 <Ampera> oh good you weren't replaced by a robot yet
05:21 <Ampera> you just enjoy having people tell you things they don't like hearing/talking about so you can start talking about it :P
05:21 <Nothing\> it doesn't matter though because my mind percieves them as real, whether tehy are or not and any consequences to my actions around them would still have very real consequences
05:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol i was trying not to be graphic
06:23 <Ampera> ya could have tl;dr'd it saying I did nasal spray, picked a scab through the center of my nose, and it never healed
06:24 <Nothing\> like at least i didn't show you the palm of hand sized blood clot i washed down my sink after i had a major nose bleed after picking off a pick piece of flesh
06:41 <Ampera> can you not
06:46 <Nothing\> no, i won't
06:51 <Ampera> no I mean, just in general
06:56 <Nothing\> don't worry, i'm not an intentional sadist
07:00 <Nothing\> no, i know
07:05 <Nothing\> i'll stop, sorry buddy
07:07 <Ampera> at least this is all unintentional :P
07:17 <Ampera> I'm not disturbed easily but this is one of my few vices.
07:18 <Nothing\> hey man
07:30 <Nothing\> at least i didn't show you how rhinoplasty's done
07:37 <Nothing\> that was enough to make even me squeamish
08:01 <Nothing\> let's try this
08:28 <Nothing\> tl;dr they strip the flesh from your nose leaving the cartelidge structure underneath exposed at one point
08:35 <Nothing\> did i do it right?
08:44 <Ampera> In other news I am now sick of pizza for two reasons, having eaten it like four times in a row in the past week, and you deciding that I need a facial anatomy lesson
08:45 <Nothing\> seriously
08:51 <Nothing\> like i'm not trying to troll you or anything
08:56 <Nothing\> i'm just a social retard
08:59 <Ampera> I'm intentionally not reading any of that :P
09:15 <Ampera> don't worry you're still not as bad as my dad
09:22 <Nothing\> or even worse
09:41 <Nothing\> there's the first hand account of the woman who had a mastectomy in the days before anesthesia
09:44 <Ampera> who will get yelled at by multiple people to do the most basic of social responsibilities, still forget to do it, and then pretend like he did it anyways, so he can get pissed at people bringing him up on his shit for not
09:47 <Nothing\> that's as much as i'm gonna say about that
10:02 <Ampera> I can handle anything below the face
10:07 <Nothing\> but it makes me wonder at how the fuck people endured surgeries back then
10:21 <Ampera> alcohol
10:23 <Nothing\> Ampera, hands really freak me out for some reason
10:38 <Nothing\> like i watched a surgery to correct carpal tunnel
10:43 <Nothing\> and i just couldn't sit through it
11:15 <Nothing\> it freaked me out watching this doctor cut into this guy's palm of his hand near his wrist and tinker with it like he was the damn terminator
12:16 <electrohead> o/
12:39 <Nothing\> meanwhile when i was a kid, back in the 90's when TLC was still educational, they had this show on it called "the operation" which, as the name suggests shows video of an operation while a doctor narrates and expains what's going on
12:43 <Ampera> hello electrohead you missed nothing
13:03 <Nothing\> and i mean, they even had vasectomies and tubal ligations (tubes tied)
13:10 <Ampera> literally, you missed Nothing\ going on about facial mutilation with overt graphical detail :P
13:16 <Nothing\> which oddly enough, the only i really remember is the vasectomy
13:31 <Nothing\> lol yeah electrohead
13:39 <Nothing\> if you're squeamish, you're right in time
13:52 <electrohead> lol
13:55 <Nothing\> i finished up talking about the hole between my nostrils
13:56 <electrohead> I remember that show
14:03 <Nothing\> no shit?
14:05 <electrohead> along with the 911 show
14:07 <Nothing\> that was a great show
14:09 <Ampera> meh, being squeamish about the face means I should probably just deal with it more to get less sensitive towards it
14:10 <Nothing\> rescue 911
14:15 <electrohead> yes, that one!
14:17 <Nothing\> they still have episodes of that on youtube
14:18 <Ampera> you fucks are old
14:24 <electrohead> lol
14:28 <Nothing\> my friend and his family were actually on that show
14:29 <Ampera> stop being old
14:46 <electrohead> never
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14:56 <Nothing\> his dad was a cop and they had an active K9 who got stabbed and killed in the line of duty
14:59 <electrohead> it's the only thing that goes up, but never comes back down
15:00 <electrohead> your age
15:03 <electrohead> :P
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15:07 <Nothing\> so rescue 911 did a story about that
15:15 <Nothing\> and about their new k9
15:33 <Nothing\> it was cool, the guy lived right across the street from me
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15:59 <Nothing\> but of course, of all of the episodes on youtube, that's one of the ones i can't find
16:29 <Nothing\> i looked everywhere to no avail
16:47 <Nothing\> i found a description of it, so i know i'm not crazy. it just doesn't exist online
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17:32 <Nothing\> i went walking through the gas one day....
18:13 <Nothing\> how come one of those gas grenades is only enough to make mr burns sing and dance like that, yet at the same time time bring down an ape man many times his size
23:56 <Nothing\> lol @ my thought process
24:15 <Nothing\> "i wanna set off some more of this permanganate but i need to smoke some more shatter first"
25:28 <Nothing\> oopsy, almost loaded my vape pen when it was already loaded with a huge glob
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30:23 <Nothing\> another bored day
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25:26 * electrohead randomly waves
27:06 * Ampera randomly hugs electrohead 
27:39 <Ampera> how are you fren?
28:45 <electrohead> alive I guess
28:49 <electrohead> you?
33:53 <Ampera> electrohead, yeah I wish I was dead too :/
38:14 <electrohead> I'm dead on the inside the past few days
38:41 <electrohead> honestly, just going through one of my manic depressive moods again, and I fucking hate it
38:57 <electrohead> mentally exhausted is an understatement
38:59 <electrohead> >.<
39:11 <electrohead> and sorry for bailing when dave came around
41:03 <Ampera> meh, he comes so rarely it's not your fault
41:11 <Ampera> he just doesn't like IRC much
41:38 <Ampera> and yeah I'm in a big fat rut myself, mostly beause I'm incredibly alone and my parents are annoying the hell out of me
42:11 <electrohead> well I was in a manic mood last night, and I understand y'all were joking around, but the amish comments got under my skin for some reason, so I said fuck it and bailed, lol
42:20 <electrohead> I'm not even amish >.<
42:31 * electrohead looks northwest of me
42:36 <electrohead> up that way, they are :P
42:46 <electrohead> err, that night ***
43:24 <electrohead> and hell, I don't even like IRC much most of the time, but.. I don't really have many friends in real life, so I come to the virtual side to meet people like y'all
44:25 <Ampera> didn't mean to bug you out with it, was just having fun
44:53 <Ampera> and I enjoy IRC, but I wish I had more people I knew in real life
45:13 <Ampera> that's the issue with IRC, nobody here actually exists
45:36 <Ampera> it gets tiring talking to imaginary people
46:07 <coppice> I imagine is would
48:14 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: They only reason I visit a petrol station any more. https://t.co/9oPkInHDGs
48:59 <arch> im a figment if your imagination Ampera
49:04 <arch> of*
49:13 <electrohead> a lot of my old friends from this area (my hometown) are drug addicts or alcoholics, so I distanced myself away from the ones who are still alive
49:26 <arch> are you down south in the US?
49:50 <electrohead> I'm in pennsylvania
49:55 <electrohead> "the florida of the north"
50:00 <electrohead> that's what I call it, anyway
51:05 <coppice> pennsylvania - transylvania gone west
51:24 <electrohead> arch and coppice, where you guys from?
51:53 <arch> NYC
52:12 <coppice> Old York City
52:40 <Ampera> arch, what part of NYC
52:44 <Ampera> I live up near Albany
52:54 <arch> Bronx
53:03 <arch> it's filled with bumz
53:04 <Ampera> this means arch is the closest person here within easy touching range
53:05 <Ampera> >:D
53:36 <coppice> but who would want to touch someone they met on the internet
53:58 <arch> pedos?
54:52 <coppice> Ampera: isn't Albany quite a long way from NYC?
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55:00 <Ampera> coppice, depends on what you mean by long way
55:04 <Ampera> good 3 or so hour drive
55:42 <Ampera> so yeah, not next door or even day trip (unless it's a particularly intense day trip like I did once), but closer than much of the rest of the US and the world
56:00 <coppice> Ampera: well, I'm not actually in the City of York. I'm a couple km outside, but I think Albany is a lot further than that
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56:31 <Ampera> well by that logic I don't live in Albany either I live around 20-ish miles away
56:38 <Ampera> thankfully
56:44 <arch> i feel like T3sl4, me, and Ampera could be those three dudes from that "what is love baby dont hurt me" video :D
56:46 <Ampera> albany is a right shithole
56:52 <arch> on a road trip
56:55 <Ampera> no please
56:59 <arch> :D
57:09 <coppice> 20ish miles would take me well beyond the far side of York
57:45 <electrohead> I haven't been to NYC in some time
58:05 <electrohead> drove up there to meet a girl from canada that I dated
58:23 <Ampera> I've only been to NYC twice in my life
58:31 <Ampera> boston's better and I've only been there (technically) once
58:41 <electrohead> way too many people for my taste :p
59:31 <coppice> I;ve been to New York State, but not to the city
59:39 <Ampera> what part of NY
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59:50 <coppice> electronhead: taste? are you a cannibal?
59:52 <Ampera> also because I live here, I consider NY to by default mean the state not NYC
00:44 <coppice> I went, on a long holiday weekend, to Buffalo to cross into Canada and see Niagra Falls
01:10 <Ampera> never been to Buffalo
01:19 <Ampera> probably full of cunts
01:21 <coppice> its a shithole
01:36 <Ampera> doesn't surprise me
01:41 <coppice> when you cross into Canada its like the sun comes out
01:44 <Ampera> few places in NY aren't
01:55 <electrohead> coppice: lol, no
02:50 * Ampera nibbles on electrohead 
02:55 <Ampera> mmm, tastes like puff pastry
06:07 <lnxmad> Hey, newb here.. With dual secondaries on a transfomer, could I use each winding for separate DC circuits? Two rectifiers, etc... Project is power amp, main transformer for amp, auxiliary transformer for soft start circuit, but also considering additional features such as arduino/feather for visuals(vu meter) or software controlled relays for power. Could auxiliary handle both tasks?
08:38 <arch> lnxmad, yes. you want to keep them isolated, as in not sharing the same ground?
09:36 <arch> aux transformer can be powered by one of those TinySwitch ICs, which are dead simple to use, and can supply 5V @ 1A, for the most basic model
10:06 <lnxmad> well, that was my next question. If I needed audio input signal for vu meter, would I need common reference
10:09 <arch> arduino itself uses maybe 200mA maximum, and each relay uses 100mA @ 5V, so depends how many relays you wanna activate at once
10:51 <arch> hmm
11:17 <lnxmad> soft start circuit has bridge rectifer on pcb so hard to change that. https://sound-au.com/project39.htm
11:55 <lnxmad> though it does provide a 12v source. but didn't want to tap into that due to the nature of the circuit (dealing with mains)
14:05 <arch> i dont think you need common reference if you use an optocoupler or audio transformer
14:29 <arch> you might need to add a preamp to drive the audio xfmr tho
14:54 <arch> im not too familiar with the audio world, so that's about as much i know =/
16:20 <lnxmad> well, sounds like a step in the right direction. I appreciate the input!
16:42 <lnxmad> Dave ever jump in here?
17:03 <Ampera> About once a year if we're lucky
17:53 <lnxmad> heh
22:50 <arch> what kinda trafo are you gonna use? mails line 50hz toroidal?
29:40 <arch> lnxmad, ^^
31:14 <lnxmad> 24-0-24 500va
31:21 <lnxmad> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/hammond-manufacturing/1182S24/4809373?s=N4IgTCBcDaIBIFkwBYCcAGAtAOQCIgF0BfIA
33:00 <lnxmad> https://sound-au.com/project3a.htm 60-100w stereo amp
40:29 <arch> lol, i like how he emphasizes his copyright notices, like he's the one who invented those schematics. fun stuff
40:46 <arch> that's the same basic amp schematic everyone and their dog knows
42:57 <lnxmad> hah yeah, or everyone copied him lol
44:12 <arch> highly doubt it. there's been plenty of audio amp books published since the 60s, maybe even earlier. just cuz he changes up a BC546 with a 2N3904 and flips the 2N3904 around the other way doesn't mean he can copyright the schematic lol. funny stuff nonetheless
45:04 <arch> i can't take websites seriously if they legit put a copyright notice on a DIY website
48:18 <arch> lnxmad, are you going to be ordering his PCB or building from scratch?
49:32 <lnxmad> I ordered his PCBs. Perhaps that is what he copyrights. I have to give it to him though. Website is extensive
51:39 <arch> building an amp with a kit PCB is like 1/10th the fun tho, but to each their own
53:49 <lnxmad> This is my first comprehensive build..outside of hooking up breakout pcbs to a Pi/arduino and writing some code to back it. I can see where you're coming from through. Still getting the hang of endless filters at digikey looking for the right part. xD
54:39 <arch> actually, no need reinventing the wheel. from a utilitarian view, kit amp is fine and dandy. better than paying a couple hundred for a Bose or Sonos or whatever fanchy shmancy hipster crap is in fashion these days
56:12 <lnxmad> I actually demoed the amp with my bench supply. It smoked most amps/commercial offerings I've heard. for a fraction of the cost.
56:42 <lnxmad> Plus getting my hands wet in electronics... no pun
56:50 <arch> yeah, well, that's pretty common
57:41 <lnxmad> I'm a software guy lol. I'm used to abstractions.
57:58 <arch> i present you...the gainclone...a brief history: https://www.instructables.com/DIY-HiFi-Gainclone-Power-Amplifier-2x68w-Class-A/
58:17 <arch> "Back in 1999, relatively unknown manufacturer 47-Labs released the "Gaincard" to rave reviews. It immediately caused controversy because it was based around a $5 power amplifier IC (Integrated Circuit), yet a typical setup would cost you around $3300."
59:17 <arch> THD of 0.03% at 60W, wtfff
01:08 <lnxmad> hah ehh well not sure how he's measuring 0.03
01:46 <arch> it's in the datasheet of the LM3886: https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm3886.pdf
02:18 <lnxmad> ah
02:58 <lnxmad> fun fact, the site I link, ESP.. Dave actually interviewed him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfOTRBqpJw&ab_channel=EEVblog2
02:58 <arch> scroll to page 11
03:46 <arch> cool
04:54 <lnxmad> I guess there will always be a draw to discrete amplifiers. People pay $2000 for a copper cable in audiophile world.
07:18 <arch> smoke and mirrors
09:59 <rust_collector> morningsz
10:43 * arch uses rust_collector's rust collection in a thermite reaction
11:32 <rust_collector> wow! well, we can always try again with the world you did not burn a hole thru
17:31 <arch> ayyy success, my single layer buck reg is working
17:43 <arch> lemme see how the waveforms look
18:42 <rust_collector> ok, so we do need pics...
21:53 <arch> rust_collector, https://i.imgur.com/BCKlYFQg.jpg
22:28 <rust_collector> heh...
22:34 <rust_collector> is that a 555 timer?
22:57 * electrohead strangles arch with his own mouse cord
23:02 <electrohead> lmao
23:10 <arch> :D
24:17 <arch> actual pics in a few. im gonna add in a reverse polarity diode cuz i dont wanna destroy my buck reg accidentally
24:52 <rust_collector> oh, I thought you was male
24:55 <rust_collector> oops?
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32:29 <arch> i identify as a MC34063
33:09 <rust_collector> are you THAT old?
33:57 * electrohead looks at said datasheet
36:08 <rust_collector> electrohead, just take apart any generic car phone charger
37:21 <arch> i'm not as cool as my younger brother, the NCP3064, but still, i do my best =)
37:27 <electrohead> lol
37:31 <electrohead> and ahh, ok
39:35 <arch> trying to find my damn electronic load so i can get these waveforms
43:29 * electrohead attaches wires to arch's nuts
43:38 <electrohead> would your load be electronic via that method?
43:45 * electrohead laughs
44:11 <rust_collector> not much resistance to speak of... should work
45:32 <arch> it's not the best looking, but it gets the job done....my electronic load that is
46:52 <rust_collector> mine is very very ugly.
52:03 <arch> no, i mean literally, my electronic load is this ugly thing here: https://i.imgur.com/FxounmL.jpg
54:49 <arch> darn, it can't do 2A continuous for too long. the IC goes into thermal hiccup mode
55:13 <arch> but it definitely works, and is pretty efficient! 85% at 2A load.
56:01 <rust_collector> OH YEAH!??! https://imgur.com/a/VtjkaDx
56:47 <arch> lol...you should see my old electronic load. it's such a hackjob
57:17 <rust_collector> I probably should.
57:30 <electrohead> damn, lol
57:33 <arch> what chip is that? lm358 opamp?
57:35 <rust_collector> this thing does work much better than I thought
57:37 <rust_collector> yes
57:50 <electrohead> the only electronic load I have is some cheaper-ish thing I bought on ebay some time ago
58:10 <arch> i used the LM358 as well. and for the voltage reference, i used a TL431
58:29 <rust_collector> ok, mr fancy stuff dude
58:35 <arch> lol
02:13 <arch> up until a few years ago, this used to be my ultra HIFI sound system, soviet style: https://i.imgur.com/qBc6mgl.jpg
02:37 <rust_collector> well...
02:54 <arch> TDA7297 chipamp from china for $2, and some USPS boxes from the post office
03:03 <arch> and some salvaged speakers :D
04:48 <rust_collector> I had the front speakers from a ford fiesta...1982 model, mounted in one quart oil cans. they did actually sound pretty good. so i guess I got lucky somehow
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05:36 <rust_collector> I wonder if they were 3" or something, lol
06:50 <arch> here's my old electronic load. the heatsink was from an old laptop, the random resistors were all salvaged and put in parallel, and used LM358. one of the LM358 was used for the fan to auto turn on when it got too hot: https://imgur.com/a/1OFIr9V
07:53 <arch> i miss that thing...i shouldn't have disassembled it. it was a good memento of my pre-EE (serious tinkering) days
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16:18 <rust_collector> interstoonk
21:39 <arch> OMG, t3sl4 is gone
21:47 <arch> who the fuck pissed him off now, in this channel?
22:49 <rust_collector> probably hsn. he is like that
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56:54 <Guest|45777> When will your 121GW be back in stock?
03:48 <arch> this channel's not merchandise support my dude
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15:01 <rust_collector> 121GW.. I guess I would take one, if it was free
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35:17 <electrohead> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/global-online-paedophile-photo-and-video-network-allegedly-uncovered-after-nsw-child-sex-arrest-20201110-p56d6z.html
35:18 <electrohead> >:O
35:38 <electrohead> happy these pieces of shit were caught, but that said, what the fuck is wrong with people?
37:41 <rust_collector> they are too complicated, so when you get a small error, you get a lot of wrong stuff
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42:23 <rust_collector> whoooa! there is that guy!
42:37 <T3sl4> !last T3sl4
21:36 <hsn> T3sl4, which bot has !last command
21:50 <T3sl4> idunno
21:59 <T3sl4> not like i can use the actual irc command, i'm online again
22:47 <hsn> ah ok .. bcz i remember this one used to have but this was custom one for EvilZone IRC https://github.com/EvilzoneLabs/BeastBot
26:43 <steve30> o/
26:41 <hsn> oi steve30
23:45 <K> hello
24:59 <hsn> hello k
25:13 * T3sl4 sips a coffee
25:28 <hsn> our prime minster just died k .. im thinking should i get holiday or not
25:51 <T3sl4> ding dong the witch is dead?
25:53 <K> eh?
26:08 <K> i didn do nuffin!
26:08 <hsn> he died in ur land T3sl4
26:14 <hsn> biden killed him
26:25 <hsn> xD
27:26 <T3sl4> did he catch the trumpvirus?
27:39 <T3sl4> the white house flu?
29:45 <K> democracy and freedoms did him in
30:16 <T3sl4> no one democracys harder than our freedums do
32:39 <hsn> u guys are laughing on my sadness
32:44 <hsn> dancing on my wounds
33:18 <T3sl4> why, are you related to him?
33:24 <hsn> no :D
33:29 <T3sl4> wait, if you're heir to the throne shouldn't you be rejoicing rn
33:32 <hsn> but im in proccess of getting holiday
33:50 <hsn> so ihave to be sad
33:56 <hsn> so i become happy ?
34:27 <K> there is some logic there
34:38 <hsn> T3sl4, there are lots of ppl here that would just feel sad :D
34:54 <hsn> unrelated
35:22 <hsn> the "non democrate" works on "loving the prince" somehow
35:26 <hsn> i guess
35:27 <hsn> idk
36:41 <hsn> in here u have right to say goverment is bad but u make sure your tongue doesnt touch the royal family minsters in the goverment .. just speak in general or about the small ppl
36:45 <hsn> who has no effect
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39:02 <K> can't you outsource bad-saying to other countries?
40:22 <K> like get someone in south-eastern asia say your minister of agriculture is dumber than a sack of potatoes?
43:09 <hsn> well in gcc
43:17 <hsn> now u can talk bad about qatar
43:19 <Ysjoelfir> mornings all
43:33 <hsn> morning Ysjoelfir
44:20 <hsn> as well qatar can talk bad about others .. the kids are on fire ..
44:47 <hsn> https://www.aljazeera.com/ << this is blocked in bahrain
46:27 <K> heh
46:49 <K> gcc?
46:58 <K> gnu compiler collection ?
47:46 <hsn> gulf countries
47:58 <hsn> the wealthy fulthy arabs
48:03 <hsn> shaikh ppl
48:04 <K> ah.
48:23 <K> the golden camel club
48:40 <hsn> good one
48:44 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Cooperation_Council
49:49 <K> ah.
50:34 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient
50:43 <hsn> lol
50:44 <hsn> no data
50:45 <hsn> :D
52:37 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, ur news ppl need beating
52:52 <hsn> DW News
59:33 <Halcyon> Evening all
01:08 <hsn> atsoooo @ Halcyon
04:02 <Ysjoelfir> hi Halcyon
04:04 <Ysjoelfir> hi hsn
04:10 <Ysjoelfir> why do we need beating?
04:29 <hsn> well .. they are putting non-died person picture as died person
04:53 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/PJ7E9z.jpg
05:16 <hsn> the person in picture is "crown prince" .. he didnt die
05:37 <hsn> they say he is "Khalifa bin Salman Al Khalifa" which died today
06:02 <hsn> although one google search would give the correct image .. idk how they put this picture
06:47 <hsn> hsn_trump: "fake media"
07:02 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
12:35 <T3sl4> brb
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16:18 <Ysjoelfir> well, german media isn't the smartest since quite some time
17:33 <Ysjoelfir> their brain is washed down by reporting ever increasing corona cases everyday for months to legitimise more restrictions while not mentioning that the deaths don't increase nearly as fast as the cases...
23:35 <hsn> i notice "DW arabia" isnt that great
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04:17 * Halcyon licks T3sl4 in the ear
05:08 <T3sl4> not im mich Arsch?
05:16 <Halcyon> ?
05:22 <steve30> hi Halcyon
06:28 <T3sl4> Halcyon, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch
07:01 * steve30 needs to do some hoovering
08:50 <Halcyon> Heheh
09:02 <Halcyon> Lick me in the arse
09:07 <Halcyon> Only if you shave T3sl4 :P
09:27 <T3sl4> flossing is healthy
09:32 <K> haha
09:33 <Halcyon> I floss plenty
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23:35 <hsn> 49 years .. trump would love that https://www.dw.com/en/bahrain-prime-minister-dies-at-84-royal-palace-says/a-55560449
32:01 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Guaranteed way to end up in my spam bin. https://t.co/bSUUk0KGfY
34:15 <T3sl4> i was afraid of that... this 570kHz regulator is too fast for this transformer
34:49 <K> wot?
35:12 <T3sl4> "at least" the secondary isn't ringing... it's too damn slow to ring much following the primary switching edge. looks more like a quasi resonant flyback :P
37:18 <T3sl4> similar to https://www.dhresource.com/0x0/f2/albu/g10/M01/8D/45/rBVaWV4_rZCAEZyuAAE7XbYT_oQ852.jpg/2-0-mobile-usb-charger-pcb-pcba-94v-0-pcb.jpg
37:47 <T3sl4> tho it's a horizontal orientation with blue tape over the windings and yellow tape around the core, for whatever reason
39:28 * hsn rings
40:03 * T3sl4 snubs hsn
40:10 <hsn> rcd ?
40:43 <T3sl4> rc
41:03 <hsn> hmm does some ppl do rc snubber + diode ?
41:09 <hsn> and call it rcd network ?
41:45 <T3sl4> they're all good, for slightly different purposes
42:19 <T3sl4> i'm fond of using, on flyback, a RCD rate snubber, dimensioned to also dampen the primary free ringdown
43:00 <T3sl4> sometimes that needs another little RC to dampen the peak where LLpri rings with the snubber, or when the snubber diode turns off
44:18 <K> yo dawg i head you like snubbers, so we put a snubber in yo snubber so you can snub while you snub
46:51 <T3sl4> :O
47:03 <K> snub-doog
48:02 <K> on the completely related note - played with me new logic analyzer yesterday, analog inputs are very handy
48:23 <K> i am seriously considering a usb based scope
48:29 <T3sl4> https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/Flyback_Snubber_Snippet.png like this, which did this https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/Snubber_Rising.jpg
48:30 <hsn> T3sl4, looking into university document that i wrote without understanding anything .. only thing i remember was "rcd filter"
48:31 <K> like some picoscope or likes
48:32 <hsn> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0n5mHiN9X--SjhOZm9NV3J3ekk/view?usp=sharing
48:33 <hsn> ^
48:50 <T3sl4> K: they're pretty handy
48:52 <hsn> page 12
49:45 <T3sl4> access denied
50:00 <K> yeah, it wants a login
50:05 <hsn> wait
50:09 <K> not today, bill gats!
50:14 <K> err, gates
50:19 <hsn> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0n5mHiN9X--SjhOZm9NV3J3ekk/view?usp=sharing
50:21 <hsn> now ?
50:23 <hsn> wait
50:33 <hsn> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0n5mHiN9X--SjhOZm9NV3J3ekk/view?usp=sharing
50:38 <hsn> same i guess ?
50:58 <K> i kekd @ tuter
51:02 <T3sl4> it shows now
51:27 <hsn> this was the only usefull tuter actually
51:37 <hsn> others where useless
52:26 <T3sl4> commonly spelt tutor :P
52:51 <hsn> Spelt, also known as dinkel wheat or hulled wheat
53:07 <K> hm, it seems like some pictures/graphs are missing?
53:26 <hsn> where ?
53:27 <K> spelt also known as past tense of "spell"
53:31 <hsn> i dont think so
53:54 <hsn> lol
53:57 <K> https://imgur.com/a/dvzc2OY
54:46 <hsn> no
54:59 <hsn> these are not pics
55:16 <hsn> hmm .. equations
55:33 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/PplcT6.jpg
56:05 <hsn> r u opening it with google viewer ?
57:28 <hsn> i really dont know whats going on at that point of time .. i thought i know xD
58:18 <hsn> what scares me more now ... is that currenrly i dont know what i used to think that i know ..
00:02 <hsn> https://www.ti.com/product/UC3526A
01:00 <Ysjoelfir> so you reached the next step of the dunning-kruger-graph?
01:54 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, i think there is some sort of oscillation in the dunning kruger
02:11 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
02:16 <Ysjoelfir> that could well be the case
03:42 <T3sl4> those who don't take lessons from history are doomed to repeat it
03:56 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, its called hsn krugger effect
04:03 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/Z9jD0X.jpg
04:30 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha^^
04:34 <hsn> xD
11:35 <T3sl4> hmm, i think this regulator may need a clamp diode
11:46 <T3sl4> from GND to SW, it's a flyback type
13:29 <hsn> T3sl4, u mean this : https://images.app.goo.gl/DwaYnx3Cn9rCMi5m9 ?
15:02 <K> yall be obsessed with smps
15:12 <hsn> https://ridleyengineering.com/design-center-ridley-engineering/49-circuit-designs/54-011-flyback-converter-rcd-clamp-design.html
15:36 <T3sl4> hsn: yes exactly, but i dont know what this boxed blue stuff is about
15:52 <T3sl4> see, the regulator is bipolar, it doesn't have a body diode like the fet does ;)
17:08 <hsn> T3sl4, the second link .. is still a fet .. body diode not drawn but its probably there right ?
17:17 <hsn> the ridleyengineering i mean ^
17:30 <T3sl4> body diode is still draw
17:54 <hsn> https://ridleyengineering.com/images/SPM/11/article11_01.jpg ^ no?
18:43 <rust_collector> morning smps
18:58 <Ysjoelfir> morning FeO
19:25 <hsn> hello there Oxidiser
20:59 <rust_collector> I always think of nl as holland-land. but it looks like newfoundland also uses nl...
21:20 <hsn> NewZileand
21:40 <T3sl4> hsn, yes? https://i.imgur.com/ZGMPwPn.png
22:13 <hsn> T3sl4, thats body diode ?? from drain to source ?
22:39 <T3sl4> well, source to drain
22:49 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/BNjncUnksKUYDXYC8
22:55 <T3sl4> well, substrate to channel, but substrate is always strapped to source, thats the dot
23:25 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.imgur.com/qynAQiW.jpg
25:29 <hsn> T3sl4, and this : https://snipboard.io/hR6d5V.jpg ?
25:59 <T3sl4> redundant
26:13 <hsn> so in reality its one ?
27:37 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/YpLcoYB.png
28:51 <hsn> imposters
29:42 <T3sl4> separate meme, but it's kinda ejected, yeah
30:02 <T3sl4> which, https://i.imgur.com/4faF1Aq.jpg
31:20 <hsn> https://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/#!cities=15
32:36 <hsn> friday/saturday is my weekend or other time .. u wanna join among us Halcyon T3sl4 Ysjoelfir K rust_collector ( rust plays ? ) Ampera ?
33:13 <rust_collector> whaat?
33:53 <hsn> do u play ? stuff ?
33:53 <T3sl4> rust_collector isn't sociable, he'd never join us for games
33:54 <hsn> :D
33:59 * steve30 meows at T3sl4 
34:14 <rust_collector> games?
34:14 <K> eh, the only thing i play is tf2
34:17 * T3sl4 smothers steve30 with a box of kittens
34:20 <hsn> steve30, also ^ forgot to mention
34:27 <hsn> K, the fuck 2 ?
34:33 <K> Team Fortress 2
34:56 * steve30 likes to play with kittens :)
35:20 <K> fluffy pussies
39:15 <T3sl4> man, this regulator kinda sucks. error amp gain and GBW keeps varying with temp
40:14 <Ysjoelfir> I would join hsn :) have to get the game though
40:36 <hsn> for mobile its free
42:11 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, do u know what time is suitable for all ? mine is close to urs ... im 15:41 now i think u 14:41 ?
42:41 <rust_collector> 13.41
49:11 <Ysjoelfir> ew, mobile! yep, its here the same as rusty says
50:37 <rust_collector> don't you have a phone modem on your desktop?
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