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01:28:16 <Ampera> hsn, backup means taking data from one storage medium and placing it on another.
01:28:36 <Ampera> Redundant raid /technically/ is a backup, in that it matches that definition, but it's a backup taken constantly
01:29:03 <Ampera> whereas a colder backup is one you take regularly, but not constantly, so if something happens, you can restore that data without whatever happened having affected the backup
01:30:01 <hsn> so manual backup ... using what .. somthing like dd comand ? or some software that does "diff and merge / replace with newer" ?
01:30:23 <Ampera> Both are options, or simply doing a selective backup
01:30:37 <hsn> or ... GUI .. right click copy right click paste
01:30:37 <Ampera> a common one is just backing up /home as that's usually where everything that can't easily be reinstalled is placed
01:31:30 <hsn> im windows user .. just asking to know which one method u was refering to ... because i only wanted to have raid to "not touch anything as im laazy"
01:32:02 <Ampera> RAID is expensive, and only protects you against hardware failures.
01:32:29 <Ampera> If you are truly so lazy that you cannot run an automated backup script using something like Macrium Reflect (for Windows), then RAID may be an option
01:32:43 <Ampera> but otherwise it's literally an entire other drive sitting there doing nothing but waiting for the other one to fail
01:39:42 <hsn> so macrium reflect ... i would also need another HDD
01:39:54 <hsn> it doesnt make sense to backup to same hdd
02:09:59 <hsn> tschuss
02:10:04 <hsn> tschusz
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04:01:00 <rust_collector> and it is morning
04:05:19 <Ysjoelfir> mornings rusty
04:05:34 <rust_collector> is it a good day toady?
04:05:47 <coppice> morning? I'm so over that
04:06:31 <Ysjoelfir> nope, definitely not a good day at my place
04:07:05 <rust_collector> oof. well, I did wonder if I should just flip over and go back to sleep....
04:07:30 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to
04:07:38 <arch> scrape some more rust to add to your collection
04:07:53 <rust_collector> I will get to that a bit later
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04:15:38 <Ysjoelfir> now my day turned much better
04:15:46 <rust_collector> wheee!
04:16:46 <Ysjoelfir> Just made a gorgeous meal.
04:17:05 <rust_collector> that has to be very pretty
04:17:40 <coppice> a really hot meal, eh?
04:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> nope, not how.
04:19:14 <Ysjoelfir> *hot
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04:20:50 <T3sl4> so i fried some falafel last night, putting some hot pepper in the mix
04:21:09 <rust_collector> so, how about christmas in colombia?
04:21:10 <T3sl4> which seems to have flavored the oil, i made french fries today and they're just a little bit spicy
04:22:23 <rust_collector> that is a nice trick
04:22:58 <T3sl4> rust_collector: i thought cambodia was the place to have holidays?
04:23:27 <rust_collector> he does dress in black, so he would fit right in
04:24:43 <rust_collector> let us see if he will remember to pack a wife
04:24:56 <coppice> T3sl4: you can have a blast holidaying in Cambodia
04:25:35 <T3sl4> aye
04:30:11 <rust_collector> you don't have to go all the way to cambodia to find landmines someone forgot
04:39:33 <arch> why the fuck is digikey's shit so expensive compared to arrow, wtf
04:39:37 <arch> more than 2x expensive
04:40:07 * T3sl4 hugs arch
04:40:12 <arch> looks like im not gonna buy anything from them. i'll stick with LCSC if american manufacturers wanna play this bullshit price gouging game
04:40:37 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/1s5e5yf1njw51.jpg
04:40:49 <arch> borgars
04:41:04 <T3sl4> all amuricun, u pay nao sukka
04:41:19 <arch> T3sl4, https://i.etsystatic.com/21194154/r/il/7b0ffd/2099383915/il_fullxfull.2099383915_dnk2.jpg
04:44:51 <TheDude> buh
04:45:01 * TheDude is a clumsy idiot
04:45:39 <TheDude> so I was disassembling some old crap furniture just now
04:46:04 <TheDude> and I got careless and a flat blade screwdriver slipped
04:46:13 <TheDude> and somehow I ended up impaling my index finger
04:46:18 <T3sl4> arch: https://i.imgur.com/vywt2PH.gif
04:46:28 <TheDude> so two problems now
04:46:31 <T3sl4> TheDude, like all the way through?
04:46:38 <TheDude> nah
04:46:48 <rust_collector> try again
04:46:51 <T3sl4> ha
04:46:52 <TheDude> just a chunk right out of the tip
04:47:01 <TheDude> right out of the fingerprint
04:47:10 <TheDude> which brings me to my second problem
04:47:11 <T3sl4> that'll be inconvenient
04:47:13 <arch> stop being an instahoe and putting this on IRC. go bandage your finger first
04:47:22 <TheDude> I can't connect to the company VPN right now
04:47:25 <arch> now you have blood on the keyboard too. well done
04:47:44 <T3sl4> you need that finger to type your password
04:47:50 <TheDude> because the app on the phone that generates the OTP is encrypted to that particular fingerprint
04:47:58 <T3sl4> or that
04:48:02 <TheDude> yeah
04:48:23 <T3sl4> whelp, alcohol, then superglue, then try to clean up the fingerprint as well you can?
04:48:26 <arch> thats why you should use your toeprint instead. less danger of having your foot/toe injured/amputated than your hands
04:48:44 <TheDude> no, it literally took a chunk out
04:48:46 * T3sl4 tentanuses arch
04:48:59 <T3sl4> oh, the chunk isn't even hanging on? rip
04:49:01 <TheDude> and I tore it off as I was washing the finger under the sink
04:49:17 <TheDude> well, it was mostly epidermis
04:49:35 <T3sl4> is it even bleeding?
04:49:38 <TheDude> yup
04:49:46 <TheDude> well, I put a bandaid on
04:50:03 <TheDude> anyhow, done disassembling cupboards for today
04:50:21 <TheDude> this sort of shit happens when it's time to stop
04:50:26 <T3sl4> true
04:50:37 <T3sl4> well, it seems your company doesn't have a policy for bus incidents
04:50:52 <TheDude> bus incidents?
04:51:01 <TheDude> as in getting your fingers caught in the door?
04:51:31 <T3sl4> can't remember the proper name for that. the "if one employee getting ran over by a bus would devestate your timeline/project/company, you're doing it wrong"
04:51:41 <T3sl4> in this case, your finger got ran over
04:51:47 <T3sl4> and redundancy was lacking
04:52:32 <coppice> its often too many redundancies which cause this problem
04:52:40 <TheDude> oh right
04:52:51 <TheDude> yeah, several projects will fail if I die
04:53:25 <TheDude> my company doesn't have sane policies for many things
04:54:04 <coppice> most companies are content for various projects to fail, because trying to make them all succeed is too expensive
04:54:05 <arch> YOLO
04:54:50 * T3sl4 yeets arch with a dab
04:55:15 <arch> :D
04:55:23 <coppice> YOLO == seize the arch
04:55:47 <T3sl4> true
04:58:01 <TheDude> so... should I seriously be concerned about tetanus, though?
04:58:25 <TheDude> the cupboards that I was working on were rather old and some screws were rusty
04:58:49 <TheDude> the screwdriver tip itself wasn't, but there was surely a bit of old rust on it when I poked myself
04:59:13 <arch> most people usually get tetanus shots in their childhood
04:59:22 <T3sl4> nah, it's more of a soil thing AFAIK
04:59:30 <TheDude> I'm fairly certain that I got those
04:59:35 <arch> if you're paranoid, you could just ask your GP to get you a shot
04:59:41 <TheDude> and these particular screws weren't exposed to soil or whatnot
04:59:44 <T3sl4> i forget how long it lasts for, is that a lifetime one or a 10 year one?
05:00:07 <TheDude> I read that they should be renewed every 10 years or when injury occurs
05:00:37 <TheDude> the thing with getting a tetanus shot is that covid is slightly more annoying atm
05:00:58 <TheDude> and I don't exactly want to enter a medical facility atm
05:01:42 <T3sl4> rip TheDude -2020
05:02:01 <TheDude> lol
05:02:17 <T3sl4> jk
05:03:06 <TheDude> you gotta be a faggot to die from a screwdriver
05:03:20 <TheDude> this was a reference to an old tweet, mind you
05:03:22 <TheDude> pls no kick :D
05:03:34 <TheDude> https://neukolln.net/img/memes/m-ru-5-a-qe-text-font-product-web-page-line-multimedia-paper-document-material-diagram.jpg
05:04:02 <rust_collector> yep, tetanus shots last for 10 years
05:04:25 <TheDude> lol, one would assume you'd be an expert on the subject :D
05:04:27 <arch> "Even with treatment, about 10% of people who contract tetanus die.[1] The mortality rate is higher in unvaccinated people and people over 60 years of age.[1]" and covid has a, what, <0.05% chance to kill if you're healthy
05:04:54 <rust_collector> but I don't know how your climate and such is. It is not a thing I have to worry much about up here
05:05:35 <TheDude> erm? I'm referring to the fact that you nickname is RUST_collector
05:05:40 <rust_collector> yes
05:05:54 <TheDude> are you saying you live in a dry climate?
05:06:14 <rust_collector> I think it is more that it is relatively cool here
05:06:29 <rust_collector> not very very dry
05:07:22 <TheDude> welp, fuck it
05:07:45 <rust_collector> tetanus is not a big issue here. just clean the wound, and it will probably be ok. dig out any leftover pieces
05:08:00 <TheDude> if I start feeling any symptoms like 4 days from now and onward, I'll go to the hospital immediately
05:08:13 <T3sl4> it wasn't deep or anything, cleaning helps a lot
05:08:18 <arch> incubation period of 10 days to a few months btw
05:08:34 <TheDude> yeah, cleaned the wound really good, tore off the remaining chunk that was preventing me from cleaning it well
05:08:43 <TheDude> and washed it out with soap nice and well
05:08:54 <TheDude> also squeezed the finger to force some blood out
05:09:07 <TheDude> to possibly force out anything that might have gotten in
05:09:13 <rust_collector> right
05:09:14 <TheDude> force/wash, idk
05:10:20 <TheDude> speaking of things, I should probably go prepare something decent to eat
05:10:23 <rust_collector> I rinse in chlorhexidine, after a regular wash, I don't know how much it helps, but I have plenty of it
05:10:48 <rust_collector> or hexidin. din or dine
05:10:53 <TheDude> I was considering using some disinfectant
05:11:04 <TheDude> the kind they use at the doctor's office before giving you a shot
05:11:09 <TheDude> but it has expired a LONG time ago
05:11:15 <TheDude> probably best not to use it
05:11:27 <TheDude> anyhow, it's too late now, anyhow
05:11:45 <rust_collector> don't put alcohol or anything in there, as it makes it harder for the stuff to grow.
05:11:55 * T3sl4 hexes rust_collector with an undine
05:12:11 <TheDude> grow like for flesh to reform?
05:12:17 <rust_collector> yes
05:12:23 <TheDude> alright, noted
05:12:26 <rust_collector> or skin
05:12:42 <TheDude> yeah, i'm gonna need both of those to fill that hole I just poked
05:13:16 <rust_collector> that is what mrs doctor said anyway. I have not noticed any difference. But they say I have to keep it dry, as much as possible
05:14:03 <TheDude> well, I normally let my wounds cure in the fresh air
05:14:29 <TheDude> but this particular one would be better left banded up, because I'm surely going to touch stuff with this finger
05:14:36 <TheDude> and crap would get in
05:14:36 <rust_collector> right
05:15:24 <rust_collector> hmm, I have some goo I use for that, under "bandaids", let me see what it has in it
05:15:59 <TheDude> okay, just checked the OTP generator app
05:16:13 <TheDude> you can also type in the PIN and it lets you in just the same
05:16:37 <TheDude> so that's not a problem, thankfully
05:17:04 <TheDude> I guess I should register my middle finger for unlocking the phone
05:17:11 <TheDude> might need it for the next couple of weeks
05:18:07 <rust_collector> heh. Zink-bacitracin, chlorhexidini acetas, paraffin. liqv, vaselin.ad, it says.... and "must not be used in the ear"
05:20:16 <TheDude> I have a tube of similar goo
05:21:36 <TheDude> dexpanthenol, chlorohexidine dichloride, vaseline, parafin, lanolin...
05:22:03 <TheDude> sadly expired 5 years and 3 months ago
05:22:05 <TheDude> :D
05:22:09 <rust_collector> meh
05:22:17 <rust_collector> you should not eat it anyway
05:22:24 <TheDude> maybe
05:22:54 <TheDude> anyhow, I don't know enough about chemistry or biology to know how these sorts of thing are affected by time
05:23:08 <TheDude> so I dare not use the stuff that has severely exceeded the expiry date
05:23:39 <rust_collector> I guess there is a reason why they they put it there, and 5 years over could be stretching it a bit
05:24:02 <TheDude> I've been here for 8 years now
05:24:18 <TheDude> and I surely haven't brought it while I was moving in, so it must have been bought later
05:24:27 <TheDude> so the shelf life was 2, maybe 3 years
05:24:38 <TheDude> yeah, 5 years after that is a bit of a stretch :D
05:24:44 <rust_collector> the stuff I had to put on my eye would just last for 10 days, even if there was plenty left.
05:25:15 <TheDude> surely 10 days after breaking the seal?
05:25:28 <rust_collector> they had to order it, and they made a little packet for me, and I was told that after 10 days, just throw it away.
05:25:34 <TheDude> not 10 days out of the factory
05:25:43 <TheDude> oh
05:25:52 <rust_collector> yep, 10 days after meing mixed, or something
05:26:08 <rust_collector> but, yes, I am not a chemist
05:26:39 <TheDude> that shit would be mighty handy at times, though
05:27:21 <TheDude> anyhow, I'm off to make something to eat
05:27:27 <rust_collector> have fun
05:27:30 <TheDude> I think I'll make a soup
05:27:42 <TheDude> I have a leek, carrots, onions and some other stuff in the fridge
05:27:57 <TheDude> should be nice
05:28:12 <rust_collector> put all the other stuff in it. just chop up anything you can find, and boil it for a while.
05:28:30 <TheDude> right, that's how soup works
05:28:47 <TheDude> I might fry up some finely chopped bacon first
05:28:50 <TheDude> to make it more gooder
05:28:54 <rust_collector> well...
05:29:01 <rust_collector> and maybe some...
05:29:09 <rust_collector> and that...
05:30:13 * T3sl4 blesses TheDude with a celery
05:32:46 <rust_collector> and a bay leaf.... or three
05:34:18 <T3sl4> hmm, the bay leaves i have are ridiculously strong, a half of one would do
05:34:30 <T3sl4> but the regular kind are almost nothing, i don't get it
05:35:02 <rust_collector> spices are tricky
05:39:40 <arch> i've come to the conclusion that if you wanna use salvaged ferrite core inductors, as long as the inductance is above ~2.2uH, you can apply an RMS current half that of the saturation current
05:39:50 <arch> which is pretty handy
05:39:57 <arch> save some moniez like that
05:40:21 <arch> fking digikey and their bullshit $4/pop inductors
05:40:29 <arch> and arrow is no better, at $2/pop
05:40:53 <rust_collector> well, that would be better... how is shipping?
05:41:16 <arch> arrow has free ship over $50 orders. digikey wanna nickel and dime you, so no free shipping with them
05:42:58 <arch> i salvaged around 20, high current SMD inductors off old motherboards and such, so far
05:43:30 <arch> lots of DRAQ series, and SRF1280 series
05:43:55 <arch> fighting pollution and saving money at the same time. win win
05:44:34 <rust_collector> so, what thingie are you working on now?
05:46:36 <arch> nothing much. just relaxing by pulling components and looking up their datasheets
05:46:53 <arch> i have a stash of old PCBs in my closet. trying to empty those to get rid of them
05:47:26 <T3sl4> when labor is discounted to zero, you can save a lot of money, yeah :)
05:48:10 <arch> buuuuuut, if you mean what my next project is, it's this thing. i'm using my old, dead EVGA GTX580 (as the heatsink) for this CC/CP/CR load: https://www.instructables.com/Arduino-Programmable-Constant-Current-Power-Resist/
05:48:12 <rust_collector> for hobby stuff, and if you have time, and like desoldering things, it would make sense
05:48:25 <arch> well, i've been outa work for ~6 months(?) now, so actually, gain
05:48:32 <arch> net gain lol
05:49:13 <arch> i have my hot air station :D it's pretty fast popping crap off the board
05:50:40 <arch> i kept my GTX580 the same, save for making a cutout where the GPU was. that's where ima strap some mosfets onto
05:51:07 <Ampera> There's nothing wrong with slavery, its only failing was its severe racism.
05:51:36 <arch> whatever you say, buddy
05:57:15 <rust_collector> I think communism is a good idea
05:57:49 <rust_collector> maybe it does not work. but the idea is nice
05:58:08 <arch> that's what she said
05:58:27 <coppice> rust_collector: you think theft is a good idea?
05:58:32 <rust_collector> sure
05:58:41 <rust_collector> if you need a thing
06:00:58 <Ampera> rust_collector, that's true, communism enslaves everyone
06:01:08 <Ampera> what an excellent idea
06:01:17 <rust_collector> sort of yes
06:01:26 <coppice> communism is a good cure for obesity
06:01:50 <rust_collector> any more good points?
06:02:11 <rust_collector> communism produces nixie tubes... that is a thing
06:02:38 <coppice> if you have any friends from Algeria, ask them. They seem to have clearer arguments on the topic than anyone else I've talked to.
06:02:55 <Ampera> it's excellent if you run the state, then you have an entire nation of slaves serving you
06:03:16 <rust_collector> is algeria communist?
06:03:41 <rust_collector> or do you mean there are few obese people there?
06:04:27 <coppice> I think they like to call themselves solcialist
06:06:21 <rust_collector> oh, like the democratic republic of congo, just the socialist version...
06:06:46 <rust_collector> well, I am going outside. stuff is blowing around
06:07:15 <coppice> its the usual story. strong disincentives for actually giving a shit meant the economy ground to a halt
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06:44:00 <T3sl4> sounds like the usual authoritarian tack, thrust everyone into poverty to secure your power
06:49:10 * Ampera has prosciutto and speck
06:49:14 * Ampera is happy
06:49:46 * Ysjoelfir had several different vegetables
06:49:53 * Ysjoelfir is insanely tired and wants to sleep
06:51:13 <Ampera> I also went to the asian supermarket and got 6.3526423 * 10^521 packages of instant noodles
06:52:22 <Ysjoelfir> you should have got more. that won't last long
06:53:42 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, you won't last long when I get my hands on you >:D
06:54:22 <Ysjoelfir> rawr
06:54:29 <Ampera> uwu
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06:54:51 <Nothing\> there's a sale on steam right now for those interested
06:55:01 <Nothing\> and greetings fellow electrophiles
06:55:23 * Ampera falls asleep ontop of Nothing\
06:55:31 <Ampera> as for a potential steam sale, meh
06:55:37 * Nothing\ cradles Ampera baby style
06:56:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, tbh i was just interested cuz i wanted a copy of the sims 4 and can't pirate it
06:56:12 <Nothing\> turns out it makes you install some shit from EA
06:56:45 <Ampera> oRiGiN
06:56:45 <Nothing\> i forgot they were EA games now
06:56:50 <Nothing\> yeah that's it
06:57:11 <Nothing\> ah i'm happy though, man
06:57:17 <Ampera> Nothing\, easy mistake to make, it's only been 23 years since EA acquired Maxis
06:57:53 <Nothing\> i've got an appointment out of town tomorrow and being that i have agoraphobia that's a hellish prospect. but what's worse is getting constipated and then having bowel cramps on the same day.
06:58:03 <Nothing\> but i just cleaned myself out damn good today :D
06:58:25 <Nothing\> i'm getting much more regular for reasons i don't understand nor will i question
06:58:35 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah tbh i'm still living in the 90s
06:58:35 <Ampera> today was fun, I learned that my dad had a halloween party and never told me about it
06:58:43 <Ampera> which is fine, I don't like halloween
06:58:46 <Nothing\> aww man wtf
06:58:54 <Ampera> but he also invited someone over who was crashed on the couch he also never told me about
06:59:01 <Ampera> and then when I asked him why, he lied and said he did
06:59:02 <Nothing\> yeah i don't think i would like a party
06:59:26 <Nothing\> despite being starved for social interactions
06:59:42 <Ampera> I still have no clue if he's just absolutely incompetent or just doesn't give a shit about how I feel about anything
06:59:48 <Nothing\> hell i genuinely enjoy meeting with my probation officer just for the interaction. how sad is that?
06:59:55 <Ampera> I don
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07:00:01 <Ampera> er, I don't enjoy meeting with anyone anymore
07:00:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, i was like that for the longest time
07:00:22 <Ampera> I just sit in my prison of a bedroom and try to remember when I still had my parents
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07:00:25 <Ysjoelfir> oh, cool! Tower and Sword of Succubus is on sale on steam!
07:00:28 <Nothing\> i lived a purely reclusive life for almost 10 years
07:00:35 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, there ya go!
07:00:59 <Nothing\> Ampera, it's not a prison. it's a safe spac
07:00:59 <Nothing\> e
07:01:03 <Ampera> Nothing\, the thing is I'm not a recluse by choice, I'm a recluse because other people have forced me into it
07:01:06 <Ampera> oh god
07:01:11 <Ampera> the last thing I feel in my own house is safe
07:01:14 <Nothing\> that's what i've learned abotu my agoraphobia
07:01:22 <Ampera> I feel like my dad can do whatever he wants to me and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it
07:01:31 <Ampera> He can fuck me over tomorrow if he wanted to
07:01:36 <Nothing\> i'm anxious about leaving the house cuz the house is like my safe space where nothing can go wrong and nobody can intrude on me
07:01:52 <Nothing\> that's so sad Ampera
07:01:58 <Ampera> If I could move out tomorrow I would do so immediately, but I'm saving money to buy a house
07:02:12 <Nothing\> that's how my dad was with my brother and he wound up taking his house and his car from him which he cosigned for
07:02:40 <Ampera> I wish my parents had died, because what's more painful than losing them physically, is losing the people they used to be, and having to deal with the assholes who now remain
07:02:53 <Ampera> it's like people I loved died and now their corpses continue to haunt me
07:02:57 <Nothing\> i've always been bitter my dad never had me in his life like he had my brother. i mean he had my brother working at his store, bought him a house, a care, spent time with him.
07:03:13 <Nothing\> meanwhile i wwas lucky to see him once a week if that and he didn't do shit with me
07:03:23 <Ampera> My dad has given me so much but given me so little at the same time.
07:03:35 <Nothing\> but then i find out my brother was making liquor store runs for my dad constantly working at his store
07:03:46 <Ampera> That's what makes it so hard, he isn't abusive, doesn't deprive me of things, but he just seems to hold me in a constant state of apathy
07:03:47 <Nothing\> brother fucked up his back permanently
07:04:05 <Nothing\> then there was the financial thing and loss of his house and car
07:04:23 <Ampera> all I want to do is go to bed and not wake up
07:04:39 <Ampera> or wake up living someone else's life, whatever to just get away from this shit
07:04:43 <Nothing\> and subsequently my dad left my brother's life, which was probably harder on him than on me. i was frankly kinda happy to be rid of him.
07:04:58 <Nothing\> Ampera, you want a quick escape
07:05:01 <Nothing\> i know the feeling
07:05:02 <Ampera> no
07:05:07 <Ampera> I want an actual escape
07:05:13 <Nothing\> well either way
07:05:16 <Ampera> if I wanted a quick escape a sharp knife is over there
07:05:21 <Ampera> but it's not an actual escape
07:05:21 <Nothing\> your desperation is fucking with your head
07:05:32 <Nothing\> at least, it did with mine
07:05:54 <Nothing\> that's why i would do shit like drugs and cutting/burning and self destructive behavior. i was looking for some sort of relief. anything.
07:06:14 <Nothing\> but 9 times out of 10 such behavior just made things worse
07:06:19 <Ampera> Sadly I'm not impulsive enough to do any of that.
07:06:26 <Ampera> or perhaps fortunately, I don't even know anymore
07:06:29 <Nothing\> don't say sadly
07:06:34 <Nothing\> it is very fortunate
07:06:56 <Ampera> I can't do well enough to fix my situation, and I can't fuck up hard enough to make things interesting or get any real help
07:07:10 <Ampera> so I just sit in limbo waiting for enough paychecks to come in so that I can escape and be truly alone
07:07:26 <Nothing\> like i said, of all my friends i find it not only remarkable, but downright admirable that you've gone through what you have/are going through withotu turning to drugs.
07:07:44 <Nothing\> cuz literally everyone else i've talked to with such problems has turned to drugs.
07:07:50 <Ampera> Credit or blame my good education, and complete lack of any access to drugs
07:07:52 <Nothing\> or self destructive behavior. or both.
07:08:01 <Ampera> if I wanted to start taking narcotics I couldn't even tell you how I'd try
07:08:12 <Nothing\> you have access to them. you just don't know it.
07:08:25 <Ampera> I'm sure I could drum up something if I dedicated myself to it
07:08:26 <Nothing\> a lot of my friends bought fentanyl analogs on the dark web
07:08:39 <Ampera> I'm too lazy to even pirate movies
07:08:43 <Ampera> like I'd go on the dark web :P
07:08:58 <Nothing\> yeah then you've gotta get a microgram scale
07:09:18 <Nothing\> you know, since it's fentanyl and weighing it, even a slight breeze would change the weight.
07:09:23 <Ampera> I have one, I weigh my penis regularly
07:09:33 <Ampera> just in case it decides to change size
07:10:26 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carfentanil#/media/File:Fentanyl._2_mg._A_lethal_dose_in_most_people.jpg
07:10:31 <Nothing\> there's 2mg next to a penny
07:10:37 <Ampera> yeah I don't need to know more about drugs
07:10:38 <Nothing\> of carfentanil
07:10:46 <Ampera> I don't give a shit about them
07:10:46 <Nothing\> several times a lethal dose
07:10:56 <Nothing\> i'm just saying. it's powerful stuff
07:11:03 <Ampera> so is botulinum
07:11:10 <Ampera> and I could grow that myself
07:11:14 <Nothing\> shit like that is what's been killing so many addicts
07:11:22 <T3sl4> greetings nucleophile Nothing\
07:11:32 <Nothing\> growing bacterial cultures is more difficult than you'd think
07:11:42 <Nothing\> hey electrophile T3sl4
07:11:50 <Nothing\> ooh
07:11:52 <Nothing\> i get it
07:11:53 <Nothing\> haha
07:12:05 <Nothing\> i didn't even realize what i said at the time
07:12:15 <Nothing\> you just blew my mine
07:12:17 <Nothing\> mind
07:12:19 <T3sl4> turns out it's a real word :P
07:12:40 <Nothing\> electronophiles!
07:14:37 <Nothing\> oh, you guys hear about sean connery?
07:14:42 <Nothing\> that's a real shame
07:15:04 <Nothing\> i don't normally give a shit about such things. but he was a talented actor in his time
07:15:12 <T3sl4> yeah, rip
07:15:46 <Nothing\> i didn't realize how old he was, but if he was doing movies since the 50s i guess it makes sense
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07:17:21 <Nothing\> cool, there's a rerelease of the angry video game nerd games
07:17:28 <Nothing\> i didn't even realize there was a sequel
07:18:11 <Nothing\> also, it was just snowing briefly :o
07:18:31 <Nothing\> it was snowing a couple days ago. couldn't even wait till november. certainly doesn't bode well.
07:20:19 <rust_collector> hey Nothing\
07:20:27 <Nothing\> hey rust_collector
07:20:30 <Nothing\> how's it going?
07:20:45 <rust_collector> super-great-awesome.. you know...
07:20:54 <Nothing\> there's a sale on steam so i'm checking out what they've got
07:21:05 <Nothing\> right on
07:21:09 <Nothing\> i think?
07:21:10 <Nothing\> lol
07:21:45 <Nothing\> i also just had a good poop. so i'm very pleased about that cuz i've an out of town appointment tomorrow
07:22:07 <Nothing\> i missed my last one cuz i had to poop but couldn't
07:22:42 <rust_collector> I am messing around outside. lots of wind, and plenty of rain. I did almost assemble my car for going to work tomorrow, and I made a little wall on the back of my workbench, so things will stop rolling off the edge, and end up somewhere behind the compressor
07:22:59 <rust_collector> heh, that has to be a weird phone call
07:23:57 <Nothing\> lol yeah
07:24:09 <Nothing\> i just told him i had bowel cramps and couldn't be far from a toilet
07:24:29 <Nothing\> thankfully it was voicemail. but i felt bad about the short notice
07:24:53 <rust_collector> I think I will make a little stand for the press, so I can get it off my bench.
07:25:07 <rust_collector> well, it is better than not telling him at all
07:25:14 <Nothing\> good idea. make more room for working
07:25:23 <Nothing\> rust_collector, well that was my rationale lol
07:25:34 <Nothing\> i had to do the same to my PO the other week
07:27:49 <rust_collector> I am almost a little bit worried about moving the press, as my right arm is a bit messed up. I guess I have to make some kind of pulley system and hoist it up somehow
07:29:48 <rust_collector> which is a new feeling for me, lol. I was always "just do it" but... i must be getting old or something
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09:14:28 <TheDude> so
09:14:36 <rust_collector> yep
09:14:38 <TheDude> the soup ended up being great
09:14:53 <TheDude> I wanted to make some chicken along with that
09:15:03 <rust_collector> and you no longer have stuff in the fridge?
09:15:08 <TheDude> but upon opening the package, I discovered that it had gone bad
09:15:22 <TheDude> there were like 3 days left before the use before date
09:15:39 <TheDude> and it had turned bad :(
09:15:58 <rust_collector> BAD CHICKEN!!!!
09:16:15 <TheDude> and it's not the first time this shit has happened >:(
09:18:04 <T3sl4> :/
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09:26:34 <electrohead> that's the worst =\
09:26:43 <electrohead> when food expires before the fucking date
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09:42:38 <Ampera> TheDude, that's why freezers are great
09:42:56 <Ampera> so long as you A. remember to take it out before you need it B. use it soon after you take it out
09:44:40 <coppice> most of the stuff in our freezer expired before it reached the freezer
09:48:17 <TheDude> fresh meat is still better than defrosted
09:48:46 <TheDude> also i'd expect the shit to last until at least the day the use by date is written
09:48:57 <TheDude> but eh
09:49:10 <TheDude> anyhow, i better get to bed now, gotta work in the morning
09:49:11 <TheDude> cheers
09:49:21 <rust_collector> night
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11:13:09 <Halcyon> Morninnnng
11:13:35 <rust_collector> YAAY! monday!
11:13:54 <rust_collector> what kind of noodles are you having today?
11:13:59 <Halcyon> Last day before I have to go back to work :(
11:14:08 <Halcyon> Heh I'm not sure yet, I just woke up
11:14:21 <rust_collector> but noodles are pretty nice?
11:14:28 <Halcyon> Yes
11:14:39 <Halcyon> But right now... coffee
11:15:01 <rust_collector> I think you need noodles baked in some kind of meaty sauce
11:15:07 <rust_collector> ah, coffee
11:15:14 <rust_collector> screw eating
11:18:57 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
11:20:04 * Halcyon goes for the nibble
11:21:15 <T3sl4> i'm sipping a perry
11:21:23 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: As recommended by @contourcorsets The extras are supposed to be the ducks guts. https://t.co/2iDev65pVY
11:23:20 * Ampera smacks Halcyon with samyang spicy noodles
11:23:42 <Ampera> so I wanted to get those noodles, but not as spicy, so I got the pack next to the one that said 2x spicy, thinking it'd be better
11:23:44 <Ampera> they're not
11:23:48 <Ampera> they're just as painful and unpleasant
11:23:54 <Ampera> but they taste so good :/
11:24:16 <Ampera> I have most of the bowl still here and I've settled down after my first few bites and am building up the courage to try and down the whole thing in one go
11:24:26 <Halcyon> Hehehe
11:24:34 <Halcyon> I was actually thinking of getting more of those Ampera
11:24:40 <Halcyon> The curry ones are my favourite
11:25:00 <Ampera> thankfully I bought other, not painful, noodles at the store when I went
11:25:09 <Ampera> but I bought like five of these damn packages
11:25:16 <Ampera> now I'll have to pawn them off on people who enjoy pain more than I do
11:26:02 <Halcyon> Just don't put as much of the chilli in
11:26:06 <Halcyon> Use half the satchet
11:26:13 <Ampera> but that's where the flavor is
11:26:21 <Halcyon> It's perfectly fine
11:26:42 <Ampera> maybe I'll use it to try and train my heat tolerance
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11:27:34 <rust_collector> use half of the spices, and snort the rest. that should work
11:27:52 <Halcyon> And don't forget to go to the bathroom after touching the chilli :P
11:28:34 <damian> where's dave live
11:28:36 <damian> i want that rack
11:28:37 <damian> hahah
11:28:42 <Ampera> I live here
11:28:44 <Ampera> thank you very much
11:28:46 <damian> NOT YOU DAMNIT
11:28:50 <Halcyon> Hehe near Baulkham Hills damian
11:28:51 <damian> the all mighty dave
11:29:04 <damian> well that's too far to travel for a rack
11:29:14 <Halcyon> I am looking for a full height rack myself
11:29:19 <Halcyon> I have a half-height and it's full
11:29:33 <damian> yeah same
11:29:51 <damian> mine isn't full, but it's a half height comms rack, so my server sticks out the back
11:29:56 <damian> i want a full depth one
11:30:19 <Halcyon> Ahh, well if you can find me a decent full height one in Sydney, you can have mine. You just need to find a way to transport it :)
11:30:31 <Halcyon> Mines a proper Dell rack
11:31:04 * Ampera throws a dill rack at Halcyon
11:31:13 <Halcyon> Mmm dill
11:31:54 <rust_collector> I wonder if the phone sort of racks are similar enough to regular server racks...
11:32:13 <Ampera> rust_collector, call up and ask.
11:32:32 <rust_collector> "Hi do you have a nice rack?"
11:32:40 <rust_collector> how big is it?
11:33:21 <rust_collector> the servers are 19", was it?
11:33:43 <damian> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Jjt05T1Q2pbizqJCDi6FmiTzL3RQe5AryFJj9uKgoLFQLC6xN8ENXsA8ex_wH1f9-Iao1OTjxNSTuM7BT6rhU_vWc7CzSQF_wyIfzrZ1-BZE1hhvBTQ8d8MA7DvN-2L2mQrPfIAePYw7KQAeQ0uyhrgWmUVV7SzyEjwNQHTQcym7uHnVUlCgpkXBS_dEXqscEShcp8kIs2KWksvG1fxwDQxvYdrMLu2Oi_Eq6R9jjzIvfPGSPHo0GnwpJUOtjZWt_biRgDv_UWOBRrwTJYU4jk-50qXMJI0BRRrPNpxazw4GFB9RKJwRv73i8-q51nRZFalIHMwjHilc5O2Pq83V3lyIqTWYWjljQzctiOw2cyGHWb7R4cQ6Y_SJDXvmg-vPP9tNBxIQACxcq60uCZU1DUXieuMh0Y7poH-zFcTKIeP99r4OUH_Bl6xyZJFDAbkdW6SqxoAuXQU1b58n_OAJPc6-r66T5G_4ze8KhQFpdB5JhCAbP_2_RNetmtg-M89h6RaZ_NUOizJWUJK4AdrqRXk-jeOLFEtdqHjHLf6pruxvTQ-9Ju94o676nGS82NR3yMN34TQPaeFWwfuKpd8UXaZbI1PJZjJnT6VTJE1opBANzAPH1s-k1oKq4ZEPcw4JiHLoe8L_pHI0kMvBkLJQOjKJOjg-yXYvo3KgXPOjwBmESYZiX0i5lOXbQ3JDeLs=w528-h937-no?authuser=0
11:33:45 <damian> this is my little baby
11:33:51 <damian> (hopefully the full link went across)
11:34:07 <rust_collector> half of it...
11:34:11 <Halcyon> Borked it
11:34:26 <damian> damnn, so none of the other photos ive been posting have worked? :P
11:34:33 * T3sl4 slaps damian
11:34:33 <Ampera> link shorteners
11:34:35 <Ampera> they're a thing
11:34:39 * Ampera slaps damian as well
11:35:04 <damian> https://i.imgur.com/MWnXBVR.png
11:35:05 <Ampera> I'd post pictures of my rack, but people just get grossed out and don't want to talk to me anymore.
11:35:21 <Ampera> nice rack
11:35:29 <damian> yeah, i use a link shortner if i know the link wont work otherwise, but it's just an added step :P
11:35:37 <damian> i'm sure your rack is nice too Ampera, i'd like to see it someday
11:36:17 <Ampera> Perhaps if/when it gets a bit larger.
11:36:19 <Halcyon> It's cute damian
11:38:56 <damian> why thank you
11:40:08 <Halcyon> Dammit, my hypervisor is overheating. I need to put the cover back on
11:40:19 <damian> just put water in it to cool it off
11:40:37 <Halcyon> Heh :P
11:41:13 <Halcyon> I'll be back shortly, need to shut it down so I can go do that.
11:41:26 <Halcyon> It sounds like a vacuum cleaner when the fans spin up
11:44:04 <steve30> 1 hour 33 minutes to render a 10 minute video :S
11:44:18 <Halcyon> Gees Steve, you rendering on a Celeron or something?
11:45:46 <rust_collector> via c7
11:48:37 <steve30> A Coffee Lake i5. Looks like it didn't have enough coffee.
11:51:01 <arch> is the proxxon micromot the best DIY PCB drill machine for $250 or less?
11:51:06 <Halcyon> Okies, back
11:52:41 <rust_collector> pcb drill machine....?
11:53:09 <arch> https://www.amazon.com/Proxxon-38128-Bench-Drill-Machine/dp/B0017PUR1Y
11:53:34 <arch> thats what i gather from the eevblog forums. lots of beaming reviews there, but not so much on amazon
11:53:48 <rust_collector> drill press, ok... well, proxxon does seem to be pretty good stuff, imo
11:54:59 * Ampera kisses Halcyon on the eyeball
11:56:44 <damian> tasty
11:57:14 <Halcyon> Salty
11:57:52 <rust_collector> that is slightly evil after those noodles...
11:59:17 <arch> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/3gnK8zI.jpg
12:00:00 * arch wonders if Ampera fainted
12:00:03 <arch> from the horror*
12:05:10 <Halcyon> He is busy talking to me
12:09:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Ooh, didn't know these existed, isolated thermal jumpers to dissipate component pad heat to power planes. I can think of lots of applications I could have used these for over the years. https://t.co/mcCLEOTpuU https://t.co/U0pEDMM0FB
12:20:19 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Sam Harris: I'm starting to suspect that this platform has not be optimized for healthy conversation.
12:21:03 * steve30 cuddles Halcyon
12:23:33 <Halcyon> YAY! Hi Steve
12:32:30 <Ampera> arch, I've seen far worse
12:33:02 <Ampera> liveleak is one fucked up place I can say that much
12:33:44 <arch> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/Nqvctcx.jpg
12:34:24 <Halcyon> Hmm... Google and Youtube are broken for me
12:34:27 <Halcyon> Everything else works
12:34:47 <arch> you are being hacked by russian spies as we speak
12:35:06 <Halcyon> Nah, someone probably just dug up a cable somewhere
12:35:13 <Ampera> now you're just russian to conclusions
12:35:18 <Halcyon> Hahaha
12:35:28 <arch> or the ISP's dns server is bugging out
12:35:38 <Ampera> arch, your gore fetish porn is disappointingly bland
12:35:40 <Halcyon> I'm not using my ISPs DNS
12:35:44 <Halcyon> But that seems to be working fine
12:35:49 <Ampera> who the hell uses their ISP's DNS
12:36:03 <arch> that's the default tho
12:36:09 <Ampera> default to what
12:36:13 <arch> i havent bothered manually setting a different dns
12:36:26 <Ampera> my router requires one to manually set a DNS
12:36:40 <Halcyon> Yeh if you leave everything as DHCP, you'll get whatever your ISP gives you
12:36:47 <Halcyon> Aren't you running pfsense?
12:36:51 <Ampera> I am
12:37:01 <Halcyon> Yeh so if you leave DNS blank, it gets it from your WAN port
12:37:03 <Ampera> I recall entering one as part of the setup procedure
12:37:06 <Ampera> I use cloudflare's DNS
12:37:09 <Halcyon> Yep, it's optional
12:37:30 <Ampera> eventually when I eliminate pfsense for something nicer I intend to run my own caching DNS server
12:43:18 <arch> congrats, you'll save, what, 0.001s every time your browser sends a request. that should only take a few hundred years to recoup your time
12:43:24 <damian> but where will you cache from
12:43:37 <damian> haha yeah
12:43:55 <damian> dns cache is a thing of the past, but you are after all a fan of relics
12:43:56 <Halcyon> Ampera likes to take the complicated route (no pun intended)
12:43:57 <Halcyon> :P
12:44:03 <arch> basically the same argument i make against morons who try convincing me to compile gentoo
12:44:12 <Ampera> damian, DNS root servers
12:44:17 <Ampera> the same as any other DNS server
12:44:19 <steve30> I think I'll go to bed soon
12:44:35 <Ampera> and the point is to learn and make cool things
12:44:45 <Ampera> the time invested is time I consider fun and educational
12:44:54 <damian> yeah i get that, learning by doing is good, you get a much better understanding of what you're doing
12:45:09 <damian> way too many people only know how to do the thing they're achieving without understanding what's going on under the hood
12:45:12 <arch> you can learn something practical, with assembler or c, to mess with microcontrollers
12:45:38 <Ampera> why would I do that when I can program normal actually interesting things with C or assembly on my own PC
12:45:50 <damian> dns caching doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the root servers though
12:45:52 <damian> do they?
12:45:54 <damian> it's been a while
12:46:10 <damian> the root servers isolate domain > name server for a recursive resolver
12:46:12 <Ampera> damian, well the point thing is you maintain your own list of everything in a cache with a TTL
12:46:34 <Ampera> just like any other DNS server, except you're running it
12:46:37 <damian> and dns uses the name server to pull the addresses
12:46:51 <Ampera> aye
12:47:05 <damian> so you want to set up your own recursive resolver and dns cache station
12:47:12 <Ampera> effectively
12:47:21 <damian> not bad
12:47:48 <damian> i feel like doing that would make your dns run slower in the short term or for any new lookups than using a third party dns like cloudflare
12:48:00 <damian> but i've never tested latency to root servers
12:48:24 <Ampera> There's a lot of things that can be configured, I haven't looked into it yet
12:48:29 <Ampera> it's just something I know I want to explore eventually
12:48:34 <damian> yeah that's cool
12:48:40 <damian> exploration is good, utilisation is a different story
12:49:00 <electrohead> I set up DNS over TLS via 1.1.1.1, and have a catch-all for all DNS queries in pfsense
12:49:02 <damian> me pulling lookups from root servers is a 200ms round trip to the three root servers i just tested
12:49:05 <electrohead> works a treat *thumbs up*
12:49:11 <damian> me pulling lookups from google dns is a 15ms round trip
12:49:16 <electrohead> and hey o/
12:49:32 <Ampera> well presumably you'd pull up all of the lookups like a normal DNS server
12:49:50 <Ampera> and cache it, so it's right there
12:50:19 <damian> yeah, so it'll work well for the places you regularly visit, but will probably be slower for anything new you attempt to access, or things that have a short (sub 10sec) ttl
12:50:26 <Ampera> why?
12:50:33 <Ampera> if I have /all of the website always ever/ what's slow about it
12:50:44 <Ampera> it'll update with the TTL as it goes along on its own
12:51:02 <damian> eh what
12:51:04 <Ampera> I have no clue what sort of bandwidth or storage requirements that would take
12:51:13 <Ampera> but I mean literally, like any other DNS server
12:51:17 <damian> you mean you're going to have a listing of all domains that exist so you dont need to look up where to get the dns for them?
12:51:23 * steve30 invites Halcyon to tuck him in
12:51:38 <Ampera> I mean literally making a server that serves the same function as 1.1.1.1, but locally
12:51:45 <Ampera> using the same methods, whatever those happen to be
12:51:53 <damian> yeah, which will be slower than 1.1.1.1 unless you've already cached
12:51:56 <Ampera> I only know bits and peices
12:52:21 <damian> as i said, it's been a while, i'm a little hazey
12:52:33 <damian> but if you (the client) asks for a lookup from 1.1.1.1 it'll do this:
12:52:35 <Ampera> it's something I'd have to look into anyways, I only know bits and peices
12:52:48 <Ampera> it's not a priority anyways, the priority will be to get rid of pfsense
12:53:15 <damian> client requests, 1.1.1.1 checks if it already knows host - if it does itll return (if in ttl). if it doesnt it'll go to root to find out how to find the address, then go to domain name server and pull it and return it to you
12:53:28 <Ampera> ah
12:53:38 <damian> all of this happens in the 0-5ms because cloudflare has links into root to pull the data quickly
12:53:52 <damian> if you did the same from your personal connection, your personal connection would have to do the same thing but at 200ms
12:53:53 <Ampera> anyways, something that I'll think about at some later point
12:54:01 <damian> yeah, let me know when you do, i'm interested to see how it'll go
12:54:09 <Ampera> come back in like a year :P
12:54:17 <damian> it's a really interesting project. i havent dealt with root servers much, at least not since ~2000
12:54:25 <Ampera> it's just one of many things I intend to do
12:54:40 <Ampera> One of my more interesting ideas is to set up X10 automation in my new home
12:54:42 <damian> how old were you in 2000? :P
12:54:44 <Ampera> computerized
12:54:49 <Ampera> -2 years old
12:54:51 <damian> hahaha
12:55:02 <damian> yeah, home automation is good, and so so so so easy these days
12:55:07 <Ampera> fuck that
12:55:12 <Ampera> I want X10
12:55:33 <damian> oh, is that over powerline not iot?
12:55:35 <Ampera> I have the goal to one day run as many of the services I use on a regular basis myself as much as possible
12:55:41 <Ampera> it's over powerloine
12:55:43 <Ampera> er, powerline
12:55:44 <damian> dayum
12:55:49 <Ampera> one of the oldest and most ubiquitous standards for it
12:55:54 <damian> that stuff gets messy, especially if you're in a large or shared household
12:56:02 <Ampera> well I'll own the house so
12:56:36 <damian> owning it is good, but if it's an older house or runs on different circuits the powerlines dont connect to one another, it's like you're in different houses
12:56:49 <Ampera> wha?
12:56:59 <Ampera> in the US all power meets at the same place
12:57:04 <damian> i've never done anything with X10, just did a really quick lookup of it
12:57:14 <Ampera> it comes from the exact same line off the street, into the exact same breaker boxes
12:57:31 <steve30> Home automation stuff always sounds really cool, but I never have any practical use for it.
12:57:32 <damian> but you generally have differnet circuits in a house over different areas, that way if a circuit gets overloaded it only takes your kitchen down instead of the entire house
12:57:35 <Ampera> Perhaps the only thing that /might/ fuck it up is our split phase power, but I'm not sure how it would
12:57:40 * steve30 likes his mechanical switches
12:57:42 <damian> and because of that, power signals dont jump circuits
12:57:42 <Ampera> damian, so?
12:57:47 <Ampera> they do
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12:57:57 <Ampera> if they didn't, X10 wouldn't be a thing
12:58:10 <damian> unless X10 uses a different kind of technology to the oldschool buzzers you'd get, or even the new age EoP
12:58:11 <Ampera> it's straight metal on metal connection from each circuit to each other
12:58:17 <damian> EoP doesn't work if you're on two circuit boards
12:58:22 <damian> at least it doesnt in AU
12:58:27 <Ampera> afaik it's something like a 240khz carrier superimposed on the 60hz mains
12:59:03 <Ampera> as I said, outside of the phase split transformer, there's nothing I can think of that would fuck with that
12:59:33 <damian> well no circuit boards, circuits
12:59:40 <damian> i dont know power that much, just the issues ive run into in the past :P
12:59:43 <Ampera> yeah the circuits have continuity from one to the other
12:59:45 <damian> you guys are the electrogurus!
12:59:53 <Ampera> circuit for the kitchen is the same power as the circuit for the bathroom
13:00:03 <Ampera> I don't know where you think it comes from otherwise
13:00:30 <Ampera> in the box everything is on the same busbar, with aforementioned split phase meaning two busbars for live
13:00:52 <Ampera> I have no clue how it gets around that, maybe it passes through the transformer no problem, maybe most houses just have everything on one split of the phase
13:01:22 <Ampera> I'm no sparky, I'm just an idiot who heard things and think I know some things
13:01:27 <rust_collector> I am not sure about x10, whatever that is, but regualr powerline adapters work from here to out in the garage. unless it does something very special, I guess it will work
13:01:36 <Ampera> rust_collector, yeah what is it gonna run into
13:01:59 <Ampera> unless you have some really weird diode breaker or something bizzare like that
13:02:01 <damian> maybe it's just something with older tech
13:02:15 <damian> but distance was never really the issue, it was all about wiring and crossing over circuit breakers
13:02:31 <Ampera> anyways, X10 is ideal because it's an industry standard and has an immense breadth of components old and new to choose from
13:02:50 <Ampera> the only thing that concerns me is the 256 device limit, but I tend to get concerned about numerical limits a lot
13:03:11 <Ampera> damian, but the circuit breakers literally are connected to each other through the exact same busbar in the breaker box
13:03:11 <damian> try this thing they came up with recently, IoT .. unlimited devices!
13:03:12 <damian> >:P
13:03:33 <rust_collector> just make each of the 256 things do several things. at least 4 things each. you will be busy for a while
13:03:35 <Ampera> if you turned the mains off, and did a continuity test across the live of any breaker on the same busbar, it'd give you continuity
13:03:43 <damian> yeah, like i said .. i dont know the electronic terminology or reasoning, i just know that in the old days if you were on different circuit breakers things that communicated via power wouldn't work - or at least wouldn't work as effectively
13:04:12 <rust_collector> not if the breaker was off, no
13:04:16 <Ampera> maybe australia just has really really different domestic power than us
13:04:25 <damian> we roll out EoP adapters to some of our older stores where we can't get ethernet in there in a visibly good fashion and sometimes they just dont work, assume beacuse the wiring is older and the breakers were older
13:04:30 <damian> yeah maybe
13:04:33 <damian> we tend to do things safer :P
13:04:40 <Ampera> rust_collector, I meant the main breaker, so the entire box was dead, but the breakers inside it weren't off
13:04:43 <damian> like y'know, have switches on our outlets
13:04:54 <Ampera> how is that safer
13:04:56 <rust_collector> yes, Ampera, i agree
13:05:23 <Ampera> the only safer thing you guys have are sleeved plugs that are literally the exact same design from the exact same guy just slightly modified
13:05:33 <damian> sleeved plugs?
13:05:41 <Ampera> I actually have an australian-style socket that was installed in a building here in the US manufactured by hubbel
13:05:48 <Ampera> damian, sleeving on the prongs
13:05:53 <Ampera> like half way up
13:06:02 <Ampera> unless you don't and I'm confusing you with BS plugs
13:06:09 <damian> i've heard stories of US people having sparks and shit when removing power plugs, or the age old 'dont stick things in the power outlet' .. though good advice it's not an issue here 'cause the entire port is dead if off
13:06:20 <damian> ahh yeah, i didnt know you didnt do that
13:06:28 <Ampera> no we don't, so if it's half way in you can shock yourself
13:06:32 <Ampera> that's really the only dangerous thing about it
13:06:47 <damian> i've received quite a few US sockets and im sure theyve had a coating up the prong
13:06:54 <Ampera> and yeah, if you pull stuff out, on rare occasion you'll get a small spark, but not enough to hurt anything
13:07:02 <Ampera> sockets?
13:07:08 <rust_collector> I wonder why the us plugs are installed upside down, but at least they are pretty compact
13:07:13 <damian> eh US plugs
13:07:28 <Ampera> I've lived in the US all my life, I've never once seen a sleeved prong on a US plug
13:07:38 <damian> lemme see, i have some in my garage i think
13:07:40 <damian> gimme a minute
13:07:41 <Ampera> it's just not a thing, mostly because our plugs actually need the extra length for contact
13:07:55 <Ampera> now this interests me
13:08:12 <rust_collector> oh crap....
13:08:51 <rust_collector> outlets and plugs are like politics. you will never agree
13:09:32 <Ampera> I maintain german schucko is the best design
13:10:06 <Ampera> er, shucko, I always forget if there's a sch or a sh
13:10:07 <rust_collector> OH YEAH!??!?
13:10:28 <Ampera> afaik it's used by all of fennoscandia
13:10:32 <rust_collector> right
13:10:48 <damian> oh yeah, nope, none of them have the protection half way up
13:10:49 <damian> wierd
13:10:50 <Ampera> I could have said nordic countries to include iceland, but fennoscandia is a fun term that doesn't get used often enough
13:11:11 <Ampera> damian, most outlets also don't have shutters, but shuttered outlets are required in all new installations by law
13:11:16 <rust_collector> and as usual, we should just forget finland?
13:11:27 <Ampera> rust_collector, fennoscandia includes finland
13:11:31 <Ampera> scandanavia does not
13:11:56 <rust_collector> it has both iceland-land and finland-land... ok
13:12:09 <Ampera> afaik iceland is not part of fennoscandia
13:12:11 <Ampera> but I could be wrong
13:12:46 <rust_collector> meh, I know where it is, I do not really care
13:13:01 <Ampera> damian, let me see if I can find the photo of my US australian-style hubbel outlet
13:13:02 <Ampera> one sec
13:21:26 <Ampera> alright
13:21:39 <Ampera> I scrolled through my entire conversation history with Halcyon on Discord and couldn't find it
13:21:41 <Ampera> so fuck me I guess
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15:11:02 <T3sl4> mmm, a big* pot of mac and cheese
15:11:12 <T3sl4> *about two servings tbh
15:16:08 <Halcyon> Want
15:16:31 <T3sl4> with extra garlic
15:32:53 <Halcyon> And dried chilli flakes?
15:33:07 <damian> ew
15:33:15 <Halcyon> Get out! :P
15:33:23 <damian> i dont much like garlic or chilli
15:33:24 <damian> hahah
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15:58:27 * T3sl4 sprinkles corona\\\chilli flake on damian
15:58:34 * damian dies
15:58:35 <Halcyon> Mmmm Corona Chilli
16:03:25 <damian> you're just the kind of weirdo that would like that, aren't you
16:03:26 <damian> freak
16:05:09 <T3sl4> you say that like it's a bad thing
16:09:38 <Halcyon> :P
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16:43:56 <Halcyon> I wish I could send you some of this chilli jam my local butcher made
16:44:25 <Halcyon> It'll blow your socks off but also has a sweetness. So while you're crying, you can appreciate it a little more. :P
16:45:38 <T3sl4> i should get that more often
16:45:47 <T3sl4> also, tomato jam. ketchup but actually good
16:47:49 <damian> lol
16:48:01 <damian> i dont understand chilli, why do people like having their face blow up red and cry?
16:48:25 <damian> my boss does it to himself all of the time, he's at the table eating this chilli stuff that's making him sweat, gasp for air, blow his nose and all around feel crap
16:48:28 <damian> why?!!?
16:48:38 <hsn> so what u suggest ppl to have blue face and laugh ?
16:48:46 <Halcyon> I buy this from Costco: https://johnnoshomemade.com.au/product/tomato-sauce-500ml/
16:48:50 <Halcyon> Made in Tasmania
16:49:02 <Halcyon> It is absolutely delicious, actually has flavour
16:49:23 <hsn> u r delicious
16:49:36 <hsn> wait i thought u r damian :D
16:49:42 <Halcyon> Hahaha
16:51:17 * T3sl4 pops a jalapeno in hsn
16:51:39 <hsn> T3sl4, that is hot
16:51:40 <hsn> :D
16:51:42 <Halcyon> I have some in the fruit bowl I can donate
16:51:46 <Halcyon> It's a good cause
16:52:11 <hsn> pop ?
16:52:41 <Halcyon> pop = place, insert etc...
16:52:42 <hsn> darn i forgot my postachio at hom
16:52:43 <hsn> e
16:52:56 <hsn> like pop and push ?
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16:52:59 <hsn> stack
16:53:01 <hsn> stuff
16:53:02 <hsn> rusty
16:53:02 <Halcyon> Kind of :P
16:53:08 <hsn> guten day
16:53:26 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/gallery/jjIlowq just for Ampera
16:53:29 <rust_collector> hi hsn
16:53:34 <hsn> so i cant open ?
16:53:51 <rust_collector> that is probably impossible, as it is an imgur link
16:54:01 <rust_collector> do you have the key?
16:54:28 <hsn> hmm
16:54:38 <hsn> no
16:54:45 <hsn> i've a browser
16:55:42 <hsn> i forgot my postachio and cashew nuts
16:55:50 <rust_collector> oh no!
16:55:50 <hsn> and it drives me nuts
16:56:00 <rust_collector> you are nuts
16:56:05 <hsn> i bought hmm .. wait
16:56:13 <hsn> 3kg
16:56:27 <hsn> 3kg postachio
16:56:32 <hsn> 4kg cashew :D
16:57:01 <rust_collector> that is what I would do too, if I did not live up here
16:57:04 <damian> you're a nut
16:57:28 <rust_collector> well
16:57:35 <hsn> 132$
16:57:46 <damian> that's nuts!
16:57:51 <rust_collector> which is 30 american?
16:57:53 <hsn> it is
16:58:00 <hsn> 130 USD
16:58:02 <hsn> 132
16:58:05 <damian> woah what the
16:58:18 <rust_collector> nuts are not cheap
16:58:26 <damian> but $130 of nuts...
16:58:35 <hsn> yep :D
16:58:36 <damian> that's like $200 of nuts
16:58:42 <damian> i could get a new car for that price
16:58:48 <hsn> i bought it cheap .. half price .. new
16:58:54 <hsn> from the distributer
16:58:59 <rust_collector> so, I have to order baclava with pistachios now?
16:59:05 <damian> no
16:59:15 <rust_collector> yes, I think I do
16:59:22 <damian> but you need a balaclava to get pistashios .. at those prices .. because you gotta steal the suckers
16:59:28 <hsn> :D u like baclava ?
16:59:31 <rust_collector> what new car can you find for that?
16:59:40 <damian> well, new to me
16:59:43 <rust_collector> well, I think I like it, it looks good
16:59:51 <Halcyon> Ampera, you here?
16:59:55 <rust_collector> HAH! you pay for your cars?
16:59:58 <hsn> rust_collector, maybe RC car
17:00:11 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/ayHADoVxg8fMHkcC9
17:00:11 <rust_collector> maybe
17:00:59 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/1QhQTCcoRiE4QkY5A ^ rust
17:01:26 <hsn> thats the baclava .. not the non sense non postachio one
17:01:37 <hsn> but i dont eat this stuff
17:01:49 <rust_collector> right-> well, I would eat all those
17:02:08 <hsn> more of this found in near syria , turky, lebanon ppl
17:02:17 <rust_collector> sure
17:02:18 <hsn> do u get this stuff up there?
17:02:31 <rust_collector> we can, but it is not exactly every day
17:03:39 <rust_collector> we tend to eat the classic local cakes here. funny mushroom cake, bark cake, pine cone cake, and on special days, we might splurge on a potato
17:04:12 <rust_collector> that is pretty much all the stuff that grow here.
17:04:41 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/gallery/atXqIRp I like that sign. I should get one. it looks horrible
17:08:32 <rust_collector> time for a coffee, and back to bed, I guess...
17:12:52 <hsn> https://youtu.be/IbsepkRTs3Q?t=302
17:12:58 <hsn> oh yeah
17:12:59 <hsn> gold
17:40:47 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalsBeingJerks/comments/jm2px6/trying_to_eat_an_apple_in_my_house_is_pure_chaos/
17:41:14 <T3sl4> also, can anyone explain to me what the deal is with cameras showing mirrored images? i don't get it
17:43:22 <hsn> T3sl4, what u mean
17:44:21 <hsn> with mirrored images ?
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17:44:33 <hsn> ur talking about selfies ?
17:44:40 <T3sl4> her sweatshirt isn't actually "bio.."
17:44:45 <T3sl4> it's "polaroid" mirrored
17:44:59 <hsn> ppl felt strange with selfies .. as they used to see them selves in mirrors ..
17:45:16 <hsn> so "mirrored" camera stuff was invented
17:45:46 <hsn> ppl like them selves mirrored :D
17:47:16 <T3sl4> it feels absolutely wrong
17:49:05 <hsn> https://www.quora.com/Why-are-selfie-pictures-mirror-images-while-rear-camera-images-are-not
17:49:38 <hsn> i used to see "mirror option" to be turned off before in some camera apps
17:50:18 <T3sl4> yeah the ted response is what i experience
17:51:08 <hsn> ted response
17:52:58 <T3sl4> Ted Miller
17:59:51 <hsn> T3sl4, help me im fraustrated .... my boss cares about showing this graphs to bigger bosses more than actual development .. https://snipboard.io/Ec5UBo.jpg
18:00:29 <T3sl4> sounds like they need to be flushed
18:01:15 <hsn> they do need to be flushed and stuck
18:01:18 <hsn> inside
18:01:22 <rust_collector> did anyone have to double flush? and did the weight work as it should?
18:02:16 <hsn> rust_collector, these are just dumb water only flushes .. after 200k cycles
18:02:36 <hsn> we will do "toilet paper + water" flushes
18:02:53 <rust_collector> amazing!
18:03:21 <rust_collector> so, chuck some sand in there
18:03:28 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xMPgPGwLG3PkpNpDA
18:03:40 <hsn> u like milkshakes rust_collector ?
18:04:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol, what did you do to the poor toilet? XD
18:04:26 <hsn> 10 meters of toilet paper was a fail rust_collector https://photos.app.goo.gl/snK1DqkoHzfL9nRd7
18:04:51 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, i did backflush to unclog the ^^ toilet paper jam in middle valve
18:05:11 <Ysjoelfir> cool! I want that for my toilet as well
18:05:14 <rust_collector> I can not drink much milk, but...
18:05:32 <T3sl4> not nearly enough suction, that thing needs to suck a golf ball through a garden hose
18:05:45 <hsn> hahaha
18:06:01 <hsn> yeaaah ... we gonna increase the volume of the tank
18:06:07 <rust_collector> right, what kind of unprressure do you use?
18:06:38 <hsn> but the boss likes "the cylindrical tank" as easy to manufacture just pipe weld .. but it takes space .. i tell them make it square what ever space we have
18:07:09 <T3sl4> hsn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbN936EbPQQ
18:07:29 <T3sl4> clearly it should be a hyperbolic paraboloid
18:07:42 <T3sl4> you can hold much more volume when it's bent through 4D space
18:07:50 <rust_collector> sure, but if you are running much unpressure, a sqare tank is much much easier to implode
18:07:58 <hsn> rust_collector, the vacuum ~80%
18:08:09 <hsn> 80-85
18:08:09 <rust_collector> 80% of what?
18:08:16 <hsn> 0.2bar
18:08:41 <rust_collector> meh, that should help junkies get something out, but...
18:08:52 <hsn> intermeddiate tank is 4.5 liter
18:09:43 <rust_collector> does it sense if someone is sitting on it?
18:11:23 <rust_collector> well, I think it is time for a nap. have fun
18:11:47 <hsn> rust_collector, if u sitt and seal it
18:11:52 <hsn> it can suck ur gutts
18:11:54 <hsn> :D
18:12:12 <rust_collector> I take that as a no?
18:13:12 <rust_collector> humans are fragile, so if you can make sure it does not have a human near it, you can crank it up a bit... or down, depending on how you see it
18:20:21 <Ysjoelfir> a few... sad... mishaps... could be interesting though :D
18:20:39 <Ysjoelfir> that could be a totally new science field!
18:21:30 <rust_collector> don't put the flush button where you can reach it from the seat
18:21:47 <rust_collector> well, good night, lol
18:23:01 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
18:23:17 <hsn> :D
18:23:34 <hsn> dont u want to hear about gutt sucking machine in the news ?
18:24:51 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, already is, just don't google images of prolapse
18:25:19 <Ysjoelfir> yes, hsn!
18:25:33 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 - I know how that looks, so.. no, won't google it again. ever.
18:25:54 <hsn> gn rust_collector
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18:43:27 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, i was kidding .. there is hole to prevent sealing .. ofc some level of fatness can seal that hole also
18:43:40 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
18:43:51 <T3sl4> so you're saying there's an american version too?
18:44:22 <hsn> :D would u pass it on your fcc railway version
18:44:40 <T3sl4> the better question is, would it pass me? :D
18:45:11 <hsn> are u oblique ?
18:46:01 <hsn> anyway .. lets not talk about it .. i dont think this stupid company will move on ..
18:46:02 <T3sl4> no, but i need to use a plunger on my toilet fairly frequently
18:46:24 <hsn> just flushing in lab making them happy .. not actual developing
18:46:58 * Ysjoelfir notices mr. cat is suffering from me being in home office.
18:47:11 <Ysjoelfir> he DEMANDS my attention like every ouch 10 seconds
18:47:22 <hsn> der katze
18:47:24 <hsn> die katze
18:47:34 <hsn> die
18:47:34 <Ysjoelfir> right now he bit my arm while I was typing as I allowed myself to use both hands for that
18:47:41 <hsn> but he is male katze
18:47:45 <Ysjoelfir> yes, the cat is female :D
18:48:07 <hsn> in arabic cat can be both male and female
18:48:15 <hsn> as it can in biology
18:48:16 <hsn> :D
18:48:20 <Ysjoelfir> well... if you talk about the species cat it is female. if you want to say "the male cat" you say "Der Kater"
18:48:35 <hsn> yep thats ^
18:48:37 <hsn> good
18:49:10 <hsn> species "the female katzies"
18:49:14 <hsn> in arabic ^
18:49:49 <Halcyon> https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-election-2020-violent-protests-expected-amid-fears-of-new-civil-war/news-story/aee026725d8bb5912a5b0e99a43ec1ce
18:49:49 <hsn> lions also female
18:49:52 <Halcyon> MERICA!
18:50:00 <Ysjoelfir> lions are male in german xD
18:50:07 <Ysjoelfir> HI HALCYON!!!!!!111one
18:50:26 <Halcyon> He Ysss-joel-firr
18:50:29 <Halcyon> *Hi
18:50:46 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, I did a nom yesterday.
18:50:56 <Halcyon> Oh?
18:51:41 <hsn> this hole president thingy is stupid
18:52:11 <Halcyon> I just don't get why when a country has an election, morons who probably shouldn't own weapons, go spastic
18:52:21 <hsn> do it arab way .. one king glued at his chair ..
18:52:34 <Halcyon> It would be more civil
18:53:43 <hsn> its all bullshit .. goverments work with how ever they work .. election is just a trick to ppl ..
18:53:57 <T3sl4> USA! USA!
18:53:58 <hsn> just to trick ppl
18:54:05 <Ysjoelfir> Or just do it like we do. Complain non stop but as soon as someone says "well, then do something!" just go back home and pretend everything is fine
18:54:12 <Halcyon> Elections aren't about tricking people, it's about a popularity vote
18:54:21 <Halcyon> IF the electoral system works properly
18:54:27 <Ysjoelfir> also Halcyon https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dFHHYVbJISJOvnjgQvH9ak81yCd-2Wn1/view?usp=sharing
18:54:43 <Halcyon> That looks nummy
18:54:45 <Halcyon> And healthy
18:54:47 <damian> gimme
18:55:03 <Halcyon> I can't help but think your beans are over-done
18:55:04 <damian> what sauce you got on that salad
18:55:11 <T3sl4> Halcyon: elections are about tricking people to vote for a 3rd party
18:55:11 <Ysjoelfir> it was. I'll do it again today.
18:55:24 <hsn> Halcyon, after popularity vote .. the new "president comes" cant do real changes in govt bcz thats not how things works
18:55:25 <T3sl4> thanks to our winner take all voting
18:55:26 <hsn> :D
18:55:33 <Halcyon> Can you note down your recipe Ysjoelfir ?
18:55:38 <damian> (@T3sl4) thanks to our winner take all voting
18:55:39 <damian> bad
18:55:51 <damian> i never cared for voting at all, but when i found out that's a thing.. like wtf
18:56:07 <damian> you vote for the best possible candidate and it makes literally no difference because the vote goes to one of the baddies anyway
18:56:38 <hsn> damian, u choose the least smelling turd ..
18:56:45 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon The beans are canned beans, they are always that floppy. :P can't help it, I love the taste of those specific canned ones. damian, I just used a mix of some freshly squeezed orange juice with a pinch of salt and pepper and some herbs, as well as a good drizzle of good coldp ressed olive oil
18:57:18 <damian> sounds like me with tinned peas
18:57:24 <T3sl4> damian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhO6jfHPFQU
18:57:25 <damian> i love a specific type, but its so hard to find
18:57:30 <hsn> u remind me of my forgotton launch box which has carrots Ysjoelfir
18:57:49 <Ysjoelfir> I assume those carrots aren't nice anymore? :P
18:58:04 <hsn> it was just made last night
18:58:10 <Ysjoelfir> oh, then ok :D
18:58:15 <hsn> pure .. not cooked
18:59:16 * T3sl4 pops a parsnip in Ysjoelfir
18:59:28 <T3sl4> ooh, i haven't gotten parsnips in a while, i should do that, and make a stir fry or curry with them
18:59:32 <damian> i couldn't possibly watch 15mins of that tripe T3sl4 ahah
18:59:43 <damian> if i cared anything about voting, elections or thought it mattered at all i might
18:59:46 <T3sl4> you don't like cute simulations? :(
19:00:13 <Ysjoelfir> how did you know that there are parsnips? :D if I looked at the pic I would have guessed it would be potatoes ;)
19:00:19 <T3sl4> Halcyon: motion to call a vote to kick damian off the server
19:00:49 <damian> IM NOT THE IMPOSTER
19:00:50 <damian> GOD
19:00:54 <T3sl4> sus af
19:01:29 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: i hadn't thought about them really, but they definitely are, yeah. i was reflecting more on carrots. or maybe i had figured it out subconsciously, weird how that is
19:02:18 <damian> Ysjoelfir, it's because he's outside your bedroom window
19:02:25 <damian> .. he was outside your kitchen window while you were cooking though
19:02:50 <Ysjoelfir> that would actually be totally possible, as my kitchen window is like 20cm away from my bedroom window :D
19:03:44 <Ysjoelfir> when mrs. spouse is cooking tea in the morning I always wake up when she plugs the kettle in, as she is sticking the plug basically into my pillow.
19:04:29 <damian> rofl what
19:04:40 <Halcyon> Hm?
19:04:50 <damian> you live in a small flat?
19:04:55 <Halcyon> I have no powers on this server
19:04:59 <Halcyon> In fact, damian does
19:05:08 <damian> or does your spouse just want to electrocute you
19:05:13 <damian> /kill Halcyon >:D
19:05:20 <Halcyon> :P
19:05:31 <damian> did you see did you see
19:05:35 <damian> ive been connected to the server for over a year
19:05:37 <Halcyon> This isn't a dick measuring contest
19:05:46 <Halcyon> Because if it was, I'd win ;-)
19:05:51 <damian> yeah, i have small peepee
19:05:56 <damian> ask ChanOP
19:06:03 <Halcyon> Haha
19:06:06 <Ysjoelfir> nah, its normal size. but the walls are very thin and behind my pillow is a wall outlet. If I take that out (and the other one in the kitchen) I can see whats going on in the kitchen. so I HEAR everything happening in the kitchen when I'm in bed^^
19:06:21 <damian> lol
19:06:28 * T3sl4 ponders this
19:06:45 <T3sl4> so, when i was little, i used to get out all the pots and pans, and bang them around, and play kitchen with them or whatever
19:06:56 <Halcyon> What an asshole :P
19:06:59 <T3sl4> you wouldn't have gotten much sleep if i was around at that age ;)
19:07:15 <T3sl4> Halcyon: you wish you had it ;)
19:07:16 <damian> yeah you sound like a dick
19:07:49 * T3sl4 gives damian some https://i.imgur.com/edJke24.jpg
19:08:13 <damian> hahahaa
19:08:14 <damian> no tenx
19:08:20 <damian> i give teh dick not take teh dick
19:08:54 <Halcyon> Interesting
19:09:00 <T3sl4> you give 50% off teh dick
19:12:11 <damian> you think i give 50% off teh dick onyl becuase its small
19:13:00 <T3sl4> i haven't seen it it could be 90% or more, idunno
19:13:47 <damian> tru
19:13:53 <damian> again, ask ChanOP
19:14:44 <T3sl4> Magic ChanOP, is damian a smol peen?
19:16:22 <damian> she's shy
19:17:36 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, you got mail
19:23:52 <K> hello
19:23:52 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
19:24:03 <Ysjoelfir> hi K
19:24:05 <Halcyon> I do?
19:24:10 <Halcyon> Oh nice
19:24:11 <Halcyon> :D
20:12:23 <hsn> why i dont get mails
20:12:30 <hsn> email sorry
20:12:32 <hsn> nvm
20:13:52 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir was sending me a recipe
20:14:11 <hsn> i want my carrots
20:16:24 <Ysjoelfir> I'm bored being at home office. I should do something fun
20:16:30 * Ysjoelfir openes steam
20:16:53 <Halcyon> I have to go to bed soon :(
20:17:09 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog time
20:17:10 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 20:17 Sydney time.
20:17:28 <Ysjoelfir> meh. you don't have to :P
20:19:00 <hsn> hey Ysjoelfir still working on home automation
20:19:01 <hsn> ?
20:19:17 <hsn> https://track.aliexpress.com/logisticsdetail.htm?tradeId=8118583546353925 < this crap is never gonna reach is it ?
20:20:07 <Ysjoelfir> nope, I decided that I don't want to work on 500 projects at once anymore, so I decided to focus on other projects
20:20:51 <hsn> so 499 ?
20:21:11 <Ysjoelfir> lol :P No, basically 3.
20:21:23 <Ysjoelfir> webshop, power analyzer, BMW
20:21:25 <hsn> self projects or client u mean
20:21:29 <Ysjoelfir> self
20:21:43 <hsn> ok
20:21:52 <hsn> and webshop did u decide which platform to use
20:22:11 <hsn> ecommerce whatever they call it
20:22:24 <Ysjoelfir> sure, its installed for ages. I just have to get my data into it, which is a pain as its just so much
20:22:49 <hsn> which one
20:22:58 <hsn> opencart?
20:23:00 <Ysjoelfir> its called 30bees
20:23:41 <hsn> what planning to sell
20:23:50 <hsn> also local germanistant or ww
20:24:32 <hsn> also is it ok to annoy u and remind u every time i see u about ur project ? so i get u to work on it more :D
20:25:27 <Ysjoelfir> selling all the shit I have salvaged from the dumpster, as well as wanting to find a good collection of tools for electronics enthusiasts. like buying some chinese soldering iron, testing that and if its good ordering more and sell it. and - of course - I might also develop some small things that I want to sell
20:25:57 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to sell world wide, but that might be a bit problematic since I'm in the EU and they decided to fuck up trade laws big time recently
20:26:08 <Ysjoelfir> and sure, you can annoy me whenever you want :P
20:45:00 <hsn> https://arduino.stackexchange.com/questions/79017/how-to-get-an-angle-from-two-ultrasonic-sensors
20:56:57 <K> meanwhile - https://bongo.cat/
20:59:48 <Ysjoelfir> löl
20:59:56 <Ysjoelfir> I enjoy that way to much I think
21:00:40 * Ysjoelfir hammers space
21:08:56 <hsn> seems like im good at bongo
21:08:57 <hsn> :D
21:26:12 <Ysjoelfir> I just managed something I would never have thought to be possible
21:26:51 <Ysjoelfir> I made some additions to soup from the can and now it TASTES GOOD!
21:34:49 <hsn> Ysjoelfir https://www.instagram.com/p/CHD-tmCHlvr/?igshid=16pkwbv1ylq2o
21:34:58 <hsn> Before armpera comes
21:37:53 <Ysjoelfir> so, if someone wants to play along (why wouldn't you?): Take can of lentil stew. add to pot. notice that the consistency is more like a soup than a stew. Take a can of canned meat. take that horribly looking, not pleasant smelling fatty lump of... stuff out of the can. Cut into mouth size chunks. add to "stew". Add a shitton of herbs and spices. enjoy
21:39:13 <Ysjoelfir> I assume I know what he said xD
22:06:43 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, oh forgot that its not english ..
22:06:50 <hsn> he says "i got covid"
22:07:13 <hsn> this is nerwegian short film for "social distancing"
22:07:15 <hsn> :D
22:07:44 <hsn> also got disconnectod
22:20:33 <Ysjoelfir> I thought so^^ I can understand a liiiittle bit of norwegian, so I thought so^^
22:22:56 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, did u ever use io link thingy
22:24:08 <hsn> according to this guy .. "wow its so much easier than using traditional voltage and current sensing" .. !!!
22:24:10 <hsn> https://youtu.be/hLfk6xInEuw?t=104
22:41:06 <Ysjoelfir> nope, no idea what that is
22:45:05 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like another "great" maxim idea which is usually unobtainium or just simply no option because as soon as maxim decides to stop production you can basically redo your complete design
22:46:55 <hsn> this is most stupid conversation actually
22:47:46 <hsn> he is saying "io link" is so much easier than "voltage communication type sensor" meaning "on / off" or "4-20mA" .. etc etc ..
22:49:46 <Ysjoelfir> yeah well, no. :D It isn't imho. Why should some arbitrary digital signal be easier than industry standard analog sensors? Especially 4-20mA?
22:52:45 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, as he said .. its so much eaziiier than the OLD STYLE INDUSTERIAL SENSOR that communicate via "VVVVolllltage or Current"
22:53:04 <Ysjoelfir> yes, sure :P Whatever maxim says
22:53:07 <hsn> the answer is in the tone and words
22:53:13 <hsn> only
23:55:03 <clarkos> Looks like a good single point of failure lol.
23:55:18 <clarkos> Surely there products that already do that though?
23:55:47 <Ysjoelfir> probably
23:57:04 * Ampera explosively decompsneezes all over the channel
23:57:11 <Ysjoelfir> ew
23:57:16 <Ampera> you're ew
23:57:26 * Ysjoelfir hands Ampera a elephant size handkerchief
23:57:38 * Ampera hands Ysjoelfir an elephant size elephant
23:57:45 * Ysjoelfir cuddles it
23:58:06 * Ampera hands Ysjoelfir a mouse and a duck to go along with it
23:58:13 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
23:58:44 * Ampera continues with an assortment of multi-colored stuffed bears
23:58:53 <Ysjoelfir> \\\o///
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