// #eevblog — 2020-11-05
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00:05:21 <Nevoness> Quiet today
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01:35:37 <rust_collector> tam tam tam dam dam bam bam bam
01:36:48 <K> no.
01:37:32 <Nevoness> But..
01:37:34 <Nevoness> Yes
01:38:54 <Ampera> jamsmatnisoafj
01:39:00 <Ampera> !!!!
01:39:01 <Ampera> AIIIIE
01:39:03 <Ampera> awge4
01:39:07 <Nevoness> wha
01:39:45 <Ampera> JMP 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
01:40:03 <K> no jumping!
01:41:01 <rust_collector> use goto if you must
01:41:27 <Nevoness> Mmh spaghetti code
01:43:04 <rust_collector> it works best, if you other people could just leave it alone
01:43:25 * Nevoness fumbles with it
01:44:15 <hsn> JMP 0xDEADBEEF
01:51:02 <Ampera> hsn, get out of here 32-bit boy
01:51:10 <K> weak sauce!
01:52:07 <K> next thing you'll see he will be throwing CS: and other segment registers at us
01:57:02 * hsn throws exception to K
01:57:13 <K> u little rascal
01:57:23 <K> no cammels for you!
01:57:33 <hsn> im worth 57
01:57:43 <hsn> all kammel kardashian type
01:57:44 <hsn> :D
01:59:04 <hsn> cya
01:59:15 <K> byee
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02:44:53 <Dude> hello
02:45:26 Nick: Dude is now known as TheDude
02:46:27 <K> yes.
03:07:14 <Ampera> hullo TheDude how are you
03:07:47 <TheDude> hey
03:07:54 <TheDude> quite alright
03:07:56 <TheDude> you?
03:08:05 <Ampera> I'm fine, taking a week off
03:08:12 <TheDude> sweet
03:09:01 <Ampera> might go out to get fried chicken soon
03:09:18 <K> friend chicken
03:09:25 <K> or fiend
03:15:51 <MRiddickW> Would I regret getting a HASL finish on a board with 0.5mm pitch parts?
03:18:12 <MRiddickW> One part with 0.5mm pitch, three parts with 0.65mm pitch, and the rest are SOIC or larger, plus throughhole.
03:18:57 <MRiddickW> Or should I just say "no strong preference on surface finish"?
03:19:36 <TheDude> is this for a production run or a one-off job?
03:19:57 <MRiddickW> Prototype, eventually production.
03:20:03 <TheDude> go for hasl
03:20:23 <TheDude> switch up to enig for the production PCBs
03:21:44 <MRiddickW> Interesting, thanks. Why the difference?
03:23:01 <TheDude> enig makes the surface very flat, so you get a nice contact with the stencil
03:23:21 <TheDude> so much more controlled application of paste
03:23:27 <MRiddickW> Makes sense. So why not for the prototype?
03:23:28 <TheDude> therefore more consistent results
03:23:34 <TheDude> well, hasl is cheaper
03:23:41 <MRiddickW> (Not questioning you, just trying to understand.)
03:23:46 <MRiddickW> Well there is that. :)
03:23:49 <TheDude> and cleaning up a bad joint isn't that big of a deal for a prototype
03:24:15 <TheDude> if you don't mind paying a little extra, might as well go for enig for the prototypes
03:24:27 <TheDude> but i don't think it's crucial for something like 0.5mm pitch parts
03:24:43 <MRiddickW> I think I might go ahead and do that.
03:24:51 <TheDude> that's still a large enough pitch to make it easy to solder
03:24:56 <MRiddickW> For sure.
03:25:31 <TheDude> but yeah, on the other hand, enig is also nicer to look at
03:25:39 <TheDude> so there's that :D
03:25:58 <MRiddickW> We have our standards here!
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04:28:28 <arch> should i use a SOT-23-6 or SOIC-8 buck regulator, for converting 13V down to 12V, at 2A sustained output current?
04:30:45 <arch> https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps54202h.pdf
04:31:58 <K> why not regular regulator?
04:32:50 <K> soic8 might have a tad better thermals
04:33:54 <arch> regulator regulator would need a bigass heatsinking potential
04:34:01 <arch> and ultra low dropout
04:38:44 <K> not that huge heatsink for 2W
04:40:35 <arch> i guess
04:40:59 <arch> lemme see if there's a SOIC linear
04:43:21 <MRiddickW> Speaking of dropout, I'm wondering if that would still be an issue for a bucking converter and you might be better off with buck/boost. You'd still have to take into account the Vds, right? Or am I thinking wrong?
04:44:39 <MRiddickW> Looking at the datasheet, Rhsd and Rlsd are 148 mΩ and 78 mΩ respectively, so at 2 A you're looking at a worst-case voltage drop of 0.452 V, assuming I'm thinking right.
04:46:40 <arch> oh, and dont forget the resistance of the inductor too
04:46:58 <MRiddickW> Oh, true.
04:47:14 <arch> so in this case, it makes sense to use an ultra low LDO linreg
04:47:25 <arch> but those cost like $2/pop. annoying
04:47:30 <MRiddickW> Gross.
04:48:28 <arch> actually im pretty sure i can get by with 8V output, even though the datasheet for the motherboard says it needs 12V nominal: http://myosuploads3.banggood.com/products/20200225/20200225211348T.V53.03A19253V0.pdf
04:49:22 <arch> that motherboard only uses logic level voltages up to 5V for its main IC, so anything higher is for driving the CCFL driver, which i;m driving directly from the TV's psu
04:50:31 <arch> so 8V should be good enough accounting for sufficient duty cycles. 5/8 --> 63% duty cycle buck. even a lame-o, shoddy buck reg can do 75% duty cycle, leaving me enough headroom
04:50:42 <MRiddickW> Just throw a diode in line with Vf=1V. :p
04:51:31 <arch> naw, i mean take the 13V output from the TV's PSU, and use a buck reg to make the output 8V, and drive that motherboard from 8V; it has onboard buck regulators to convert to logic level voltages
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04:52:01 <arch> in case they use linear regs, the power dissipation would be even lesser than operating from 12V
04:52:08 <arch> so win-win
04:54:16 <arch> what's funny is that board actually works directly from 5V, although the USB port wouldn't be up to spec cuz the buck reg would drop out with a load on it
04:54:35 <arch> so idk why they specify 12V power input
04:55:03 <MRiddickW> Huh, interesting.
04:55:22 <MRiddickW> Just because it's easy to find a wall wart for it?
04:56:40 <arch> no, it's because there is a jumper for powering 12V LCD panels, as in the VDD for the panel itself. it uses NO buck regulator in that case, because it provides the 12V power directly from the power adapter
04:56:54 <arch> however, you can select the panel voltage using a jumper, to be either 3.3V, 5V, or 12V
04:57:26 <arch> there are buck regulators present on board for 3.3V and 5V rails; the only linear regulator they have is used for the 1.8V logic supply
04:57:51 <MRiddickW> Interesting.
04:58:10 <arch> it's amazing what the chinese engineers came up for $10
04:59:10 <arch> i get to save $200 on buying an original motherboard for my sharp TV, learn more PCB layout, reverse engineer some shit, and have fun too, and hoping it works out nicely, i'll upload the PCB online
04:59:45 <arch> can you imagine the amount of ewaste saved due to this device? you don't have to dump your 50+ inch TV
05:00:18 <arch> it's not about the money...it's about saving earth :D
05:00:31 <MRiddickW> Aw yiss
05:02:13 <arch> so, i'm gonna ditch the plan for 13V-->12V buck/linreg, and just go for 13V-->8V buckreg. plenty of headroom voltage even if a shitty 2.5V dropout, LM7805 is used
05:02:28 <arch> and feed that 8V as the supply to that motherboard
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05:30:32 <TheDude> where are the 13V coming from and what are 12V going to be used for?
05:33:42 <hsn> https://blog.zimperium.com/freertos-tcpip-stack-vulnerabilities-details/
05:42:29 <arch> TheDude, 13V is coming from the TV
05:42:32 <arch> TV PSU
05:42:54 <arch> i need to step it down so i can feed it to the universal LCD motherboard, which is rated to 12V
05:43:02 <Halcyon> Morning all
05:43:17 <arch> it doesn't even have to be 12V, is my conclusion. because i fed it 6V and it started up just fine
05:43:29 <TheDude> eh, buck it
05:43:53 <arch> all the logic is 1.8V, 3.3V, and 5V max (for the USB only). therefore, even with 6V, it works just fine
05:44:04 <TheDude> I'm guessing the board has further step down converters on there to generate all of the rails that it needs, huh?
05:44:06 <arch> the LVDS signals themselves are 1.2Vpp
05:44:33 <arch> correct TheDude, the board itself has buck regs for steping down to 3.3V and 5V; the only linreg on it is 1.8V
05:44:34 <TheDude> I'd try to figure out what sort of arrangement of power supplies are on there
05:44:41 <TheDude> and figure out if you can wing it with 13V anyway
05:45:06 <arch> that would be hard to do because it's chinese made, so they scratched off the laser markings on the regs lol
05:46:19 <arch> anyways, long story short, we don't need anything higher than ~6V for it to work properly. it should now run cooler actually, since it's not having to dissipate a lot more power for the 1.8V logic section
05:46:47 <arch> https://www.banggood.com/T_SK106A_03-Universal-LCD-LED-TV-Controller-Driver-Board-TV-or-PC-or-VGA-or-HDMI-or-USB+7-Key-Button+2ch-6bit-30pins-LVDS-Cable+1-Lamp-Inverter-p-1401873.html
05:48:18 <arch> is there any valid reason why this buck reg is rated for 7V maximum, even though the switch node is rated 19V maximum? https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps562201.pdf
05:48:25 <TheDude> jfc, they even lasered the little one?
05:49:03 <arch> i dont know if it's lasered off or if it's just very grimy from the flux, but i cant see anything legible using magnifying glasses
05:50:22 <arch> maybe it has to do with loop stability
05:50:36 <arch> anywho, i'll make it 6.5V and go with their recommendations
05:54:15 * Ysjoelfir is making steak
05:54:17 * Ysjoelfir is happy
06:05:51 <arch> ok one of the buck regs have T25ADD. sot-23-5 form factor, outputs 5V for the USB. need to find the datasheet
06:08:06 <arch> probably a chinese manufacturer, so tough luck with that im guessing
06:44:09 <arch> looks like donarudo's gonna lose?
06:44:20 * arch resumes selling MAGA merch for pennies on the dollar
06:45:06 <TheDude> https://ftx.com/trade/BIDEN
06:45:10 <TheDude> https://ftx.com/trade/TRUMP
06:45:20 <TheDude> :D
06:45:25 <arch> https://images.shoutwiki.com/bzpb/thumb/8/8a/Toranpu-sama.jpg/300px-Toranpu-sama.jpg
06:54:23 <T3sl4> buh
07:09:41 <arch> boo
07:10:06 <T3sl4> ies
07:49:37 <Lord_of_nothing> Hey Ladys
07:53:49 <Lord_of_nothing> Who here watch the us election?
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08:19:13 <Lord_of_nothing> hi
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08:20:35 <rust_phone> party party or similar expression
08:21:59 <Ysjoelfir> woohoo!
08:22:03 <Ysjoelfir> what do we celebrate?
08:22:07 <rust_phone> YES
08:22:19 * Ysjoelfir celebrates YES!
08:22:24 <rust_phone> allthethings!
08:22:35 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeee \o/
08:22:41 <rust_phone> yes or camel, or cream
08:23:23 <Ysjoelfir> I had a day off today, so I started cleaning and fixing the lathe. its actually surprisingly sturdy for the size
08:23:31 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, yes, it was a 1000DM lathe back than
08:23:33 <Ysjoelfir> but still
08:24:07 <rust_phone> yeah, it did look fairly stout for being a little lathe
08:25:26 <Ysjoelfir> the motor is a pretty beefy 300W induction motor with suprisingly good torque. and the spindle has adjustable roller bearings
08:25:49 <rust_phone> well.....
08:26:25 <rust_phone> pretty beefy 300w motor... that... ok
08:26:35 <Ysjoelfir> for the size off course
08:26:51 <rust_phone> so now you need a vfd?
08:26:56 <Ysjoelfir> the china lathes of that size usualy have 150W motors.
08:27:03 <Ysjoelfir> no, I'm fine with changing belts ;)
08:27:35 <rust_phone> well, vfds are still handy...
08:28:09 <Ysjoelfir> thats not wrong
08:28:31 <rust_phone> I Was wondering if i could reconfigure a cheap inverter to work as a vfd...
08:28:47 <Ysjoelfir> oh, and I got a replacement for the broken... thingy in the back which I always forget the name from
08:29:04 <rust_phone> broken back thing
08:29:12 <Ysjoelfir> yes, exactly that
08:29:12 <rust_phone> technical term
08:29:19 <Ysjoelfir> :P
08:29:32 <rust_phone> back stock
08:29:39 <Ysjoelfir> probably^^
08:30:03 <rust_phone> pinol..something
08:30:22 <Ysjoelfir> Reitstock in german. which would literally translate to riding stick :D
08:32:18 <rust_phone> time to make some air bearings for the serving tray, i think
08:32:43 <Ysjoelfir> do that
08:33:13 <rust_phone> you have to, because you are the lathe guy
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08:33:57 <rust_phone> i only have the wrong angle grinder, and various hammers
08:36:00 <rust_phone> and i just had brealfast, so there is no point in making a serving tray now
08:37:16 <Ysjoelfir> :P
08:37:18 <rust_phone> calzone with cheese and chorizo. it could be worse
08:38:41 <Ysjoelfir> that does sound indeed very nice
08:42:39 <rust_phone> so... do you have some test indicators and such?
08:43:07 <Ysjoelfir> I have... one I think. somewhere. But no holder :P
08:43:34 <rust_phone> hmm
08:44:13 <rust_phone> make mrs k. hold it very still while you adjust
08:44:30 <Ysjoelfir> xI try to convince her :P
08:45:37 <arch> donarudo is about to bite za dusto, possibly
08:45:47 <rust_phone> how about cutting tools and maybe an end mill?
08:45:52 <arch> 253 biden, 214 trump
08:47:13 <rust_phone> is that the romånian arduino or something?
08:48:01 * arch grabs a bucket of popcorn and shares some with T3sl4
08:48:20 <rust_phone> i do wonder why people bother looking into that this early
08:48:24 <Ysjoelfir> nah. its all about fraud and fake and whatnot you know? :D
08:48:39 <rust_phone> sounds cheap
08:48:50 * T3sl4 sprinkles cheese on arch
08:48:55 <T3sl4> cheese dust, rather
08:49:01 * arch snorts it
08:49:56 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/r/TheSimpsons/K0M55Wc
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08:52:13 <rust_phone> i wonder what a static zebra looks like... do they puff up like long haired cats in a dryer?
08:52:28 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
08:52:35 <rust_phone> cool
08:56:33 <rust_phone> ok, the truck with my stuff on it is here... so i am leaving in between 3 minutes and an hour or so
08:59:59 <Ysjoelfir> don't enjoy work and bring much home much money!
09:00:21 <rust_phone> yes, i hope this is going to suck
09:01:03 <rust_phone> otoh, i wonder if i should nag and take the rest of my vacation pretty soon
09:06:15 <rust_phone> zo have enjoys. and probably ok night
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09:21:03 <steve30> hi
09:42:33 <arch> T3sl4, https://i.imgur.com/1QPHJ3M.png , https://i.imgur.com/zlx9y66.png
09:43:33 <arch> we need memes for the VIPs in this channel
09:44:58 <T3sl4> not quite, i use TL494 from time to time
09:54:30 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/L8x7i39.png
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10:54:49 <arch> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/213/226/513.jpg
11:02:29 <T3sl4> ^
11:12:46 <arch> he shouldn't have sold himself out. shoulda stuck with his ideals, even if his chances of winning were unlikely against other contenders
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11:18:56 <T3sl4> bernie?
11:19:12 <T3sl4> the party saw to it that he wouldn't get the nomination
11:22:52 <Ampera> T3sl4, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/773367614704451624/image0000002.jpg
11:23:43 <T3sl4> aww
11:24:01 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/773369591337451520/20201103_211331.jpg
11:24:38 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/749117445393874984/20200829_000454.jpg
11:25:06 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/731715342094696569/IMG_20200707_170525.jpg
11:25:15 <T3sl4> "hello, is it meow you're looking for?"
11:26:10 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/projects/Note20UltraSamples/20200821_110226.jpg
11:26:23 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/projects/Note20UltraSamples/20200821_111613.jpg
11:26:30 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/projects/Note20UltraSamples/20200821_112731.jpg
11:26:38 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/projects/Note20UltraSamples/20200821_111240.jpg
11:39:16 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: WTF @eBayAU this is ridiculous. :Which was quoting: Little Bird Company: Hey @eBayAU we just received a notice that our @Raspberry_Pi hardware (computers designed to be accessiby priced for education) have been removed due to the fact that as a general purpose computer they "encourage infringement". Please help! #RaspberryPi https://t.co/GblYWYmNLW
11:40:52 * steve30 meows at Ampera
11:41:04 * Ampera meows back at steve30
11:42:53 * steve30 wants to play with the ampera-kitties
11:55:50 <T3sl4> arch: https://i.imgur.com/4snEh6h.jpg
11:58:36 <arch> well well well, how the turntables
12:02:18 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/LBchB72.gifv
12:02:48 <coppice> he's adorable
12:03:03 <coppice> perhaps not quite a family pet, though
12:04:03 <rust_collector> It can be, but I do not think he would be allowed in the bedroom
12:04:31 <coppice> you may been a reinforced bed
12:04:45 <coppice> you may need a reinforced bed
12:05:29 <arch> waiting for the election results like: https://i.redd.it/8drebv6fygw21.png
12:08:08 <rust_collector> if I had that thing at home, I really hope he does not take a shit on the couch, because it would be all over the couch
12:09:07 <coppice> those things have amazing acceleration. they can do a ton in your driveway
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18:13:12 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:17:45 <steve30> hi
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18:30:32 * steve30 coffees
18:32:36 * Ysjoelfir teas
18:32:41 * Ysjoelfir cheers to steve30
18:41:45 <Ysjoelfir> I added a custom music mod to my game yesterday. and damn those tracks are beautiful! https://soundcloud.com/pettersumelius/sets/rimworld
18:46:35 <Ysjoelfir> steve30, you have to listen to "Stay strong" from that album. its so nice
18:52:27 * Halcyon licks the channel
18:52:57 * steve30 paws at Halcyon
18:53:07 <Halcyon> :D
19:00:48 * Ysjoelfir breadrolls
19:00:55 <Halcyon> Yummy
19:02:53 <steve30> "lockdown 2" starts today
19:03:54 <Ysjoelfir> It did here 3 days ago. :)
19:04:07 <Ysjoelfir> so far, not much change for me, as I try not to go outside at all
19:04:34 <Halcyon> What does that mean?
19:15:21 <Ysjoelfir> no restaurants, cafes, no public.... fun-things like cinemas, pools, sports things,...
19:15:43 <K> as hello
19:15:56 <K> as?
19:16:19 <Ysjoelfir> as K! hello!
19:19:46 <steve30> It means its an offence to leave your house except for work, shopping, exercise, caring, legal responsibilities, education etc
19:21:20 <Ysjoelfir> exactly what steve30 says, Halcyon
19:23:42 <K> no more wanking in the park
19:24:00 <Ysjoelfir> sad, isn't it?
19:24:09 <K> the times we live in...
19:24:14 <Ysjoelfir> :P
19:24:46 <hsn> biden won ?
19:26:12 <Ysjoelfir> not yet, but most probably. also, mr. carrot is raging around and being like "this is all fake, I'm going to the supreme court, bla bla bla"
19:30:42 <Halcyon> Oh that sucks
19:42:49 * steve30 invites Halcyon round for a cup of coffee :p
19:44:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: https://t.co/2HA0CNJN21
19:48:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Holy Stargate Batman! https://t.co/HRiFG2HfsI https://t.co/PCtiKlvj2m
19:51:35 <Halcyon> I just discovered boiled egg, cheese and Big Mac sauce sandwiches :)
19:51:45 <steve30> eww
19:51:46 <Nevoness> steve30: We have a curfew from 6am - 8pm over here in austria, since tuesday
19:51:58 <Nevoness> also no restaurants etc open
19:52:34 <hsn> eevblog convert awg22 to mm
19:52:34 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.644 mm
19:53:24 <hsn> eevblog convert awg26 to mm
19:53:24 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.405 mm
19:53:27 <hsn> eevblog convert awg30 to mm
19:53:27 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.255 mm
19:55:11 <Halcyon> Steve, it's delicious
19:55:18 <Halcyon> It's like mayo but better
19:55:27 <steve30> eww
19:55:34 <Halcyon> You're weird :P
19:55:44 <Halcyon> Next you're going to tell me you don't like baked beans and cheese
19:55:50 <steve30> eww
19:55:56 <Halcyon> *gasp*
19:56:01 <Halcyon> What kind of Brit are you?
19:56:20 <Halcyon> What DO you like?
19:56:34 * steve30 suggests fish and chips for british food
19:56:47 <Halcyon> What about for brekky?
19:57:10 <steve30> today i had sausage sandwich
19:57:19 <Halcyon> Oh yum
19:57:38 <hsn> apitit
19:57:49 <Nevoness> Huh, im currently eating a sausage sandwich :P
19:57:58 <Halcyon> With mustard?
19:57:58 <steve30> yum
19:58:43 <Nevoness> Nah, rather plain tbh. butter, sausage, tomatos and cheese
20:00:12 <Halcyon> Still tasty
20:00:40 <Nevoness> yup!
20:00:55 <Halcyon> Where you from Nevoness?
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20:01:32 <Nevoness> im from austria
20:02:38 <Ysjoelfir> I just wanted to write "From the same place where you live, Halcyon, but with one "al" less"...
20:03:29 <Ysjoelfir> Das ist ganz praktisch, so hab ich jemanden, mir dem ich die Leute hier im Channel verwirren kann! Muhahahaha! Bis auf hsn, der ist schließlich mittlerweile Firm in deutsch.
20:03:51 <Ysjoelfir> right, Nevoness?
20:04:23 <Nevoness> lol. stimmt auch wieder ^^
20:04:28 <hsn> eevblog translate Muhahahaha from german to english
20:04:39 <Ysjoelfir> Answer: devils lol
20:04:57 <Ysjoelfir> woah, Ampera should implement a google translate engine into the bot!
20:05:08 <Ysjoelfir> that'd be a cool project!
20:05:10 <hsn> ;)
20:06:36 <hsn> did you mean "Ampera NLP engine" ?
20:08:26 <Halcyon> Oh nice, you new to the channel?
20:08:36 <hsn> https://ibb.co/P40g5pN
20:08:53 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: It's Austria, not Australia :P
20:09:24 <hsn> ^ Ysjoelfir what a grammer
20:09:25 <hsn> :D
20:09:30 <hsn> https://i.ibb.co/mtg4HsG/image.png direct
20:10:15 <Ysjoelfir> *mit, not mir :D
20:10:49 <Nevoness> Halcyon: Ive been here for about a week or so? Might be a little more. I do remember that you asked me that question before tho
20:11:04 <Halcyon> Forgive me, I am running on basically no sleep :P
20:11:09 <Halcyon> I say a lot of things
20:11:11 <Nevoness> Same
20:11:27 <Halcyon> But welcome anyway, I hope people have been nice to you
20:11:28 <Nevoness> Currently at my 29th hour without sleep
20:11:29 <Nevoness> :P
20:11:39 <Halcyon> If they haven't, there will be trouble
20:11:56 <Nevoness> Aaand still got a full day of work infront of me, well, mostly full i guess. About 6h left.
20:12:09 <Halcyon> How you are not dead, I don't know.
20:12:17 <Nevoness> People have been really nice so far ^^ I have nothing to complain
20:12:25 <Nevoness> Uhh... I usually do 48h+
20:12:30 <Nevoness> Happens quite often
20:12:40 <Nevoness> and when i sleep its most of the time less than 4h
20:12:45 <hsn> Nevoness, im nice number 5
20:12:55 <hsn> ich bin nett
20:13:04 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, we were mostly nice, but I tried to not pamper him to much so that he doesn't get used to being treated nice. you know, false impressions and such
20:13:17 <Halcyon> Hehe
20:13:23 <Halcyon> That's OK, we have Ampera for that :P
20:13:32 <Nevoness> except on saturdays. On saturdays i do tend to sleep a LOT. Like 10h+ is kinda normal. Gotta get sleep from somewhere lol
20:13:41 <Ysjoelfir> for being a dick?
20:14:00 <Ysjoelfir> I thought that's T3sl4 s task?
20:14:02 <Halcyon> You said that, not me :P
20:14:06 <Ysjoelfir> :P
20:14:09 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, no dick words in front of new guest :D
20:14:11 <Halcyon> Nah, T3sl4 is more of a dick tease
20:14:27 <Nevoness> Im not that new :P
20:14:27 <Ysjoelfir> I dunno, have never seen him in person, especially not when I was naked
20:14:43 <hsn> Nevoness, r u nero under mask ?
20:14:48 <Nevoness> Well that convo is moving into a weird direction
20:14:49 <Halcyon> Less about how he looks and more about how he carries on :P
20:14:57 <Halcyon> Nevoness: Get used to it :P
20:14:57 <hsn> neroTHz
20:14:59 <Nevoness> Nero?
20:15:04 <Halcyon> Just about anything goes here
20:15:10 <Nevoness> Only nero i know is Nero Burning Rom
20:15:10 <Nevoness> :P
20:15:16 <hsn> Nevoness, nero is cd burner .. he is fast
20:15:17 <Halcyon> Old school :P
20:15:42 <Ysjoelfir> hah :D I made that joke with our nero once, he was like "yeah, everybody does that..."
20:15:56 <Nevoness> I still remember the days when my dad used to use a pirated version of nero and the slysoft tools to copy DVD's lol.
20:16:01 <Ysjoelfir> But no hsn, NeroVeryFast is from Belgium^^
20:16:28 <Ysjoelfir> pssst, don't talk to loudly about illegal things, we have government people here!! :P
20:16:43 <Nevoness> I work for the govt
20:16:46 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: This is true
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20:16:56 <Nevoness> Im literally sitting in a court building at this point in time
20:16:57 <Halcyon> Shhhh, he is listening :P
20:17:02 <Ysjoelfir> I know ^2
20:17:08 <Nevoness> lol.
20:17:20 <Halcyon> May I ask what you do Nevoness ?
20:17:26 <Nevoness> IT Admin
20:17:30 <Halcyon> Ah nice :)
20:17:37 <Nevoness> Tho mostly First/Second level support tbh
20:17:41 <Ysjoelfir> oh, by the way you two government guys: I declined a job for german government yesterday.
20:17:56 <Halcyon> Shh Ysjoelfir
20:18:02 <Halcyon> I have no idea what you are talking about :P
20:18:15 <Ysjoelfir> Who said that I was talking to you? :D
20:18:20 <Ysjoelfir> 0:-)
20:18:27 <Halcyon> Who else is there?
20:18:39 <Halcyon> Apart from Post10 who just joined and hasn't said anything
20:18:53 <Ysjoelfir> actually, we have at least three government people. rustys company is government owned as well :D
20:19:37 <Halcyon> Gah, SMB/CIFS sucks for hosting VMs
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20:19:43 <hsn> ah
20:19:45 <Ysjoelfir> lol
20:19:50 <Ysjoelfir> now you scared it away Halcyon
20:19:53 <Halcyon> Drive keeps dropping out in my Windows VM
20:19:56 <hsn> u refused ha
20:20:07 <hsn> hope u better one :)
20:20:12 <Halcyon> I think it's due to the state timing out
20:20:32 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - indeed. I feel very good after refusing.
20:20:52 <hsn> :D i thought so .. u sounded like ur gonna refuse
20:20:59 <Halcyon> I need to wee wee
20:21:06 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy Halcyon
20:22:04 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - well, yes. but I was still a bit.... lets say, not 100% sure if I should. you know, safe job for years.... but otoh... a job that would force me to stay at least 6.5 years, if I like it or not
20:22:13 <Ysjoelfir> so no. no thanks.
20:22:23 <Halcyon> Come here Ysjoelfir
20:22:36 <Halcyon> At least we don't have COVID restrictions
20:22:37 <Ysjoelfir> No thanks, no watersports for me please
20:22:41 <Halcyon> Hahaha
20:22:42 <Nevoness> Its so fun having a blind person work as the call operator for all our calls. Especially since she just blames everything else except for herself
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20:24:14 <Nevoness> Ofc nothing works if she decides to swap her active window into the email program, gets stuck there and doesnt switch back
20:24:30 <Halcyon> Why does she need email?
20:24:34 <Nevoness> But "The PC crashed"
20:24:45 <Nevoness> Because we had to give it to her....
20:24:55 <Ysjoelfir> oh you mean for work. hm. Could be nice, though I doubt mrs spouse would join. Maybe I should ask rusty if norske posten are looking for workers :X Nevoness: well, how could she, she's disabled, and if that is like we have it here in germanistan she has special privileges instead of just being equal^^
20:25:08 <Nevoness> She tends to write insanely long almost short book like emails
20:25:24 <Nevoness> without a single piece of formatting.
20:25:29 <Halcyon> Maybe that's her way of expressing herself?
20:25:32 <Ysjoelfir> give her a typewriter and traction paper?
20:25:38 <Halcyon> Hahah how do you format when you're blind?
20:25:53 <Nevoness> She has a braille typewriter
20:26:02 <Ysjoelfir> oh cool!
20:26:08 <Nevoness> well, at least a dot would be nice
20:26:09 <Nevoness> or a comma
20:26:13 * Ysjoelfir loves typewriters
20:26:18 <Nevoness> and yes, they do have that in braille
20:26:23 <Halcyon> I want a braille output device like on the movie Sneakers
20:26:26 <Halcyon> I reckon that would be cool
20:26:27 * Ysjoelfir hates people not using punctuation
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20:26:55 <Nevoness> so the emails just ends up being a huge sausage of words that is super hard to read
20:27:15 <Nevoness> and ofc she sends those to the userlist of our courtbuilding
20:27:25 <Nevoness> (not always, but often)
20:28:42 <Halcyon> Twice we have mentioned sausage...
20:28:45 <Nevoness> I dont want to sound mean or anything... But shes.. really not the easiest to work with. I mean, it would help if she wouldnt beat/hit the braille device that costs more than 10k eur everyday
20:28:47 <Halcyon> Well three times if you count T3sl4
20:28:59 <Nevoness> Sausage
20:29:15 * Halcyon giggles
20:29:25 <Halcyon> I feel like a hot dog now
20:29:28 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 counts for two sausages. at least. also, why does she hit a device thats supposed to help her?
20:29:51 * Ysjoelfir puts hsn aside Halcyon. Like a warm bun.
20:30:13 <Nevoness> Here, a sausage: https://youtu.be/-1bsh5Ne3yU
20:30:22 <steve30> i wouldn't mind more food
20:30:32 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/knapKY6DPGkNHqyFA
20:30:41 * Ysjoelfir puts steve in front of Halcyon. head down.
20:31:05 <Nevoness> Ysjoelfir: Because she ends up getting frustrated at her own disability (and also doesnt want to learn)
20:31:27 <hsn> here is what i want rn https://images.app.goo.gl/ob7NRxiuVMH5uk8G6
20:31:41 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds more like a problem for the psychology department than for IT?
20:31:54 * T3sl4 relishes Halcyon
20:31:55 <Ysjoelfir> indeed hsn. make some for me, too
20:31:59 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/YMmgh7BjhiEXAKBi7
20:31:59 <Nevoness> We all know that she can easily work with a keyboard. and she did so for the last 10-15 years at least.
20:32:02 <hsn> oh maaai
20:32:11 <Nevoness> Ysjoelfir: That... doesnt exist
20:32:52 <Nevoness> hsn: gib me that burger
20:33:04 <Ysjoelfir> meh
20:33:11 <Nevoness> im glad that we have lunch in 1h
20:33:30 <Halcyon> Morning T3sl4
20:33:45 * Ysjoelfir hugs T3sl4
20:33:49 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir
20:33:57 * Ysjoelfir grabs Nevoness and wraps him around T3sl4 as well
20:34:02 <hsn> my desire for that burger is > 2x ( Ysjoelfir + Nevoness desire)
20:34:03 <hsn> :D
20:34:08 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
20:34:15 <Ysjoelfir> so its over 9000?
20:34:24 <hsn> 9000 bare ?
20:34:26 <T3sl4> hsn, you know bacon is pork right?
20:34:29 <hsn> 9000 x 10^3
20:34:33 <Halcyon> Mmmm pork
20:34:40 <hsn> T3sl4, we have fake bacon
20:34:46 <hsn> with egg
20:35:05 <Ysjoelfir> hsn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik
20:35:13 * Nevoness hugs Ysjoelfir and T3sl4
20:35:16 <T3sl4> how do you facon with an egg
20:35:38 <Nevoness> Ugh, why is our VPN so goddammn instable
20:35:52 <Halcyon> Cisco?
20:36:00 <Nevoness> Curse you centralized data center that has to handle literally everything
20:36:03 <Nevoness> Fortigate
20:36:10 <Halcyon> Gah
20:36:13 <Halcyon> Even worse
20:36:27 <Nevoness> We usued to have Cisco AnyConnect before, but after 500 clients that crapepd out
20:36:30 <Nevoness> crapped*
20:36:35 <hsn> T3sl4, i dont know the real thing but there is somthing non pork bacon sort of thing here
20:36:52 <Halcyon> Honestly, pfsense and OpenVPN... set and forget
20:36:55 <Nevoness> Now we have Fortigate's and they seem to crap out under load.
20:36:57 <Nevoness> Allllll the time
20:37:04 <Halcyon> Yes, because they are meh
20:37:11 <Nevoness> Sadly i cant change even the slightest bit about our VPN setup
20:37:20 <Halcyon> Oh well, sucks to be you :P
20:37:31 <Nevoness> Nah
20:37:36 <Nevoness> Our users have to suck it up
20:37:44 <Nevoness> I can just brush it off and blame vienna
20:37:50 <Nevoness> since they are overloaded again
20:37:51 <T3sl4> beef makes a reasonable bacon, flavorful if tougher
20:39:29 <Nevoness> Having the entirity of austria connect to a single VPN (I think they have 3 Fortigates in total) in a single location... Isnt the best idea
20:40:03 <Nevoness> Or rather, not the entirity of Austria, more like all gov't institutions, all schools, etc
20:40:26 <Nevoness> The longest time i could ever stay connected to that VPN was about 15 mins
20:40:34 <Nevoness> then you just get DCed
20:40:59 <hsn> guys how is princible calculated here : https://i.ibb.co/bsBqPBF/image.png
20:41:14 <hsn> 240.92 ^
20:46:05 <T3sl4> i found the perfect coffee recipie for steve30 https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/seasonal (press the red button)
20:48:01 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: You might like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jYSBFHab7Y
20:48:11 <Halcyon> He is live at the moment but does some EXCELLENT car videos
20:48:17 <Halcyon> No-bullshit kind of stuff
20:49:42 <Halcyon> He is kind of the "Dave Jones" of everything cars
20:51:53 <Ysjoelfir> the old dave jones or the modern one? ;) but yes, sounds already good :) I think I'll listen to that while doing home office
20:52:20 <Halcyon> He has only just started doing these live videos a few weeks ago.
20:52:39 <Halcyon> His pre-recorded stuff is good and usually discusses one or two specific things
20:58:35 <Ysjoelfir> so far I enjoy the lifestream
20:59:11 * Nevoness yawns
20:59:18 <Nevoness> I might be a bit tired.
20:59:24 <Halcyon> He is an engineer but he used to work in radio and telelvision on car stuff. Decided to hell with that, so he does his own thing and says it like it is. He isn't paid by any brand or car manufacturer like "journalists" are.
20:59:32 <Halcyon> I wonder why Nevoness
20:59:43 <Nevoness> I cant imagine why
21:00:32 <steve30> aww, now I feel sorry for the pumpkins
21:01:16 <Nevoness> were going to have a pumpkin Strudel for lunch today
21:03:14 <Ysjoelfir> my throat feels like I ate a mouth ful of dry sand
21:03:25 <Nevoness> uugh
21:03:29 <Nevoness> that always sucks
21:03:34 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
21:03:35 <Nevoness> try some honey milk
21:03:42 <Ysjoelfir> I already did :D
21:04:00 <Halcyon> I'm going to get another glass of wine
21:04:16 <Nevoness> Tipsy Halcyon
21:04:55 <steve30> I'm looking forward to going to bed
21:06:03 <Halcyon> It's almost my bed time
21:06:38 <Nevoness> im kinda excited to go back home and keep playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider
21:06:52 <Nevoness> Thats what i might have done this night
21:06:53 <Nevoness> >.>
21:08:20 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: You should post a question as a German
21:08:24 <Halcyon> I'm sure he would love it
21:08:40 <Halcyon> "Greetings from Germany..."
21:08:49 <Ysjoelfir> hah :D
21:09:00 <Halcyon> I think most people are Aussies
21:09:29 <Halcyon> Just wait until he is just about to finish a question or when he starts looking down at the screen. He tends to read ahead.
21:09:36 <Halcyon> (He did work in Television)
21:14:23 <Ysjoelfir> aww, 4 over me :P
21:14:41 <Halcyon> "Tinkertubes" ?
21:14:44 <Halcyon> ROFL
21:14:47 <Halcyon> So cute
21:14:57 <Ysjoelfir> hey, old channel :P
21:15:02 <Halcyon> I like it
21:15:28 <Halcyon> You may have to ask the question a second time, it's all about timing
21:15:36 <Halcyon> So it's in front of his face when he starts to wrap up
21:15:58 <Ysjoelfir> hail to copy and paste xD
21:16:03 <Halcyon> :P
21:16:19 <steve30> i'm anticipating a parcel later. Hopefully my Mum will be around to answer the door to the postman
21:16:22 <Halcyon> There is a slight delay too... about 5-10 seconds
21:16:55 <Halcyon> What you getting Steve?
21:17:15 <steve30> another camera to play with
21:17:40 <Halcyon> Oh nice
21:18:17 <Halcyon> Dammit :P
21:20:04 <Ysjoelfir> :P
21:20:35 <Halcyon> Maybe start with "Heil from Germany...."
21:20:37 <Halcyon> Hahah
21:20:44 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
21:21:07 <Halcyon> He will probably read the paid comment next
21:21:42 <Ysjoelfir> yep
21:22:06 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
21:22:24 <Ysjoelfir> that comment about the magazine was so nice ^^
21:22:29 <Halcyon> Oh yes
21:22:44 <Halcyon> He occasionally talks about how car companies pay them for all kinds of junkets
21:23:17 <Halcyon> Volkswagen Audi Group absolutely hate him
21:23:35 <Ysjoelfir> what did he do to them?^^
21:23:42 <Halcyon> Talks shit about them
21:23:50 <Halcyon> Well there you go, talking about Fords Ad money now
21:23:51 <Halcyon> Hahah
21:23:54 <Ysjoelfir> xD
21:27:38 <Halcyon> Oh my gawd, this guy is blaming the service department for uncliping his child seat?
21:27:47 <Halcyon> Seriously? Be a parent, look after your child and check these things.
21:27:56 <Ysjoelfir> yep, exactly my thoughts
21:28:03 <Halcyon> People that blame others shit me
21:28:17 <Ysjoelfir> but you know, parents this day are like that.
21:28:27 <Halcyon> Everyone else's fault but their own
21:29:00 <Halcyon> AND he expects a half-price service? Is he fucking kidding me?
21:30:45 <Ysjoelfir> because mrs spouse is working in childcare I know that many parents are like that. most of the time those are the same parents that come each morning with their big fat SUV, drop their children off and saying things like "so he/she/it has to learn english until its 5, so I expect you to educate it until then."
21:31:06 <Halcyon> People are fucked
21:33:00 <hsn> Im not fucked
21:33:16 <Halcyon> Not you hsn
21:33:27 <Halcyon> The dumb majority of the population
21:33:42 <hsn> So u say im not people .. im animals?
21:34:05 <Ysjoelfir> no. you're a special species
21:35:15 <hsn> :]
21:35:38 <hsn> Uncliping child seat meaning
21:36:22 <hsn> Aha
21:36:26 <Halcyon> hsn: Someone took their car in for a service and someone unbuckled the child booster seat and didn't put it back. The parent complained that it was someone else's problem, rather than his for checking it.
21:36:27 <hsn> Got it .
21:36:28 <Ysjoelfir> do you have child seats in Sandistan?
21:37:02 <hsn> Yes Ysjoelfir not alot bcz our childs love to fly
21:37:03 <Halcyon> ROFL Sandistan
21:37:44 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: Jonh Cadogan refers to America as "Retardistan" and New Zealand as "Sheep-shag-istan"
21:37:54 <Ysjoelfir> xD
21:38:42 <hsn> Halcyon: and he got ticket from u guys ?
21:38:53 <Halcyon> No?
21:39:04 <hsn> Did his child fly out?
21:39:13 <Halcyon> No
21:39:20 <hsn> Why is he nagging then
21:39:26 <Halcyon> It's just "He happened to check and noticed it" and was angry
21:39:34 <Halcyon> He, as a parent should be checking ALL the time
21:40:00 <hsn> Well .. give him .. wait
21:40:37 <hsn> Baby mouth plug
21:40:43 <hsn> Idk the name
21:40:55 <hsn> The thing that makes them stop crying
21:41:02 <Ysjoelfir> oh
21:41:04 <Ysjoelfir> a wooden mallet
21:41:40 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/kthXc2LsjZ4kYyJP6
21:41:43 <hsn> This
21:42:22 <Halcyon> A Dummy/Pacifier
21:42:37 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer the mallet
21:42:41 <Halcyon> Me too
21:42:48 <Halcyon> Dumb people don't learn otherwise
21:42:57 <Ysjoelfir> I meant to silence the kids :D
21:43:40 <hsn> Mallet he will start breaking stuff
21:45:42 <Nevoness> I hate the blinds in my office
21:46:08 <Halcyon> Anyway it's bed time here
21:46:11 <Halcyon> Night guys
21:46:19 <Nevoness> i usually roll them down because i dont want prison inmates watching me work
21:46:30 <Nevoness> Good night Halcyon
21:46:38 <Halcyon> Keep them up and drink espresso in front of them :P
21:46:54 <Nevoness> I did that before, they waved a middle finger at me
21:47:04 <Nevoness> Then i called their guard and they got in trouble (lol)
21:47:11 <Halcyon> :)
21:47:14 <Halcyon> That's the way
21:49:01 <hsn> Nevoness, u work at prison
21:49:04 <hsn> ?
21:51:13 <Nevoness> I work at a court
21:51:26 <Nevoness> And the prison is right next to us. Almost the same building
21:52:10 <Halcyon> I don't miss the court cells
21:52:22 <Nevoness> Court cells?
21:52:23 <Halcyon> Shitbags always have a certain smell about them
21:52:36 <Halcyon> The cells under the courts (in Australia)
21:52:36 <Nevoness> I thankfully dont have to deal with the inmates.
21:52:41 <Nevoness> rarely ever see em
21:52:45 <Nevoness> Ah
21:52:59 <Nevoness> Watched them lower a basket out of their window before
21:53:03 <hsn> Nevoness, i work in drugs
21:53:08 <Nevoness> Aah
21:53:10 <hsn> can we establish business ?
21:53:13 <Halcyon> They get taken their by police either bail refused, or transported their from jail for their court hearings
21:53:16 <Ysjoelfir> since when are toilets drugs? :D
21:53:18 <hsn> i send u .. u give them ..
21:53:23 <Nevoness> uh
21:53:26 <Nevoness> >.>
21:53:47 <hsn> dont give me sharp boobs symbol ... yes or no .. we can make lots of money
21:53:57 <Halcyon> ROFL Sharp boops
21:53:58 <Ysjoelfir> lol
21:54:00 <Halcyon> boobs
21:54:15 <Halcyon> Madonna
21:54:15 <Nevoness> Havent heard that one before.. "Sharp boobs" lol.
21:54:22 <Nevoness> Nah, Lady Gaga
21:54:23 <hsn> xD
21:54:42 <Nevoness> Ill forward you to the IT guy from the prison ;)
21:54:50 <Nevoness> lol. I actually dont have access to it
21:55:03 <Nevoness> well, i only have to call and i do but eh
21:55:05 <hsn> so he is living on different subnet :)
21:55:13 <Nevoness> Yep
21:55:17 <Halcyon> Just have to VLAN hop
21:55:21 <Nevoness> Nope
21:55:31 <Nevoness> sadly doesnt work that way with our network
21:55:46 <Halcyon> Until someone clicks on a phishing email :P
21:55:51 <hsn> can u send waves with the ethernet cable .. by waving ur hand ?
21:56:09 <Nevoness> the routing from the court to the prison (even tho we are directly wired together) looks like this: Court -> Vienna -> Prison
21:56:20 <Halcyon> Or if you guys use VLAN 1
21:56:38 <Nevoness> we actually use 3 VLAN's
21:56:44 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, you as a toilet technician could have it way more easy by just reprogramming your toilet and send it straight to the cells!
21:56:48 <Halcyon> Yes but you should not use the default VLAN of 1
21:56:54 <Halcyon> That should just go no where
21:57:10 <Nevoness> Eh, VLAN 1 would work for our standard pc network
21:57:25 <Halcyon> https://portunreachable.com/vlan-hopping-vulnerability-527ee506dae3
21:57:27 * Ysjoelfir has to go get some drugs.. erm... medication. brb
21:57:35 <Halcyon> It's an issue with some Cisco set ups
21:57:37 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, oh yeah .. neptune kiss morse codes
21:57:53 <Nevoness> We only need VLAN for our telephones, videoconference systems and our video surveilance system.
21:58:08 <Nevoness> we dont even have port-security setup
21:58:09 <Halcyon> Ideally, NOTHING should be on VLAN 1
21:58:23 <Nevoness> every device just automatically gets an IP from the DHCP
21:58:24 <Nevoness> lol
21:58:36 <Halcyon> Well yes, but it will still be part of a VLAN
21:58:42 <Halcyon> DHCP is entirely different
21:58:46 <Nevoness> I know
21:58:47 <Nevoness> Still
21:58:54 <Nevoness> its not limited to MAC's or anything
21:59:02 <Nevoness> there is like next to no security there
21:59:03 <Nevoness> lol
21:59:04 <Halcyon> Mac filtering is pointless
21:59:12 <Halcyon> A kid can bypass that crap
21:59:17 <hsn> ok here is a puzle for u http://www.puzzlesandriddles.com/LateralThinking18.html
21:59:38 <hsn> puzzle sand riddles :)
21:59:45 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm going to sleep
21:59:46 <Halcyon> Night guys
21:59:59 <Nevoness> Now for real?
22:00:31 <Nevoness> If so: Good night ^^
22:01:12 <hsn> gn
22:01:24 <hsn> gutten naicht
22:01:26 <hsn> i guess
22:01:49 <Nevoness> Gute Nacht
22:02:08 <hsn> darn .. i missed it up
22:02:14 <Halcyon> Nevoness, it's 2200 here
22:02:29 <Nevoness> im usually not even at home by that time
22:03:14 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, i have been not working since 1.5week now .. just researching random stuff : https://youtu.be/nybVFJVXbww
22:07:43 <Nevoness> damn, the election in the US is a mess
22:08:05 <Nevoness> or at least seems like it for someone from European
22:08:38 <Nevoness> europe*
22:08:51 <Nevoness> damn my brain is just ever so slightly fried.
22:08:51 <Nevoness> lol
22:30:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Just learned today how the US ballot proposition system works in half the states that have it. The US voting system sucks balls, but this part is amazing, wish we had it. The people actually get a vote on bills, wow. We have referendums but only for rare constitutional changes.
23:02:42 Quit: spark_gap ([email protected]) Connection closed
23:04:01 <Lord_of_nothing> hey everyone
23:05:24 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - weeeell.... seems familiar :P
23:06:07 <Lord_of_nothing> i feel sleepy
23:07:01 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr Lord
23:07:11 * Ysjoelfir hands Lord_of_nothing a pillow, a duvet and a steve30
23:10:16 <T3sl4> such luxury
23:10:30 * Ysjoelfir hands T3sl4 a rock
23:10:42 * T3sl4 pets the rock
23:11:08 * Ysjoelfir hands T3sl4 a shrubbery to put the rock into. A nice one, but not to expensive.
23:11:16 <T3sl4> NI!
23:11:21 <Ysjoelfir> :P
23:11:25 <Ysjoelfir> always nice^^
23:11:40 <Ysjoelfir> I kind of like the word "shrubbery". it just sounds good in my ears
23:11:41 <T3sl4> :D
23:12:20 <Ysjoelfir> compared to squirrel, which just sounds absolutely awfull (probably because its unpronounciationable for a german)
23:12:21 <Lord_of_nothing> i orderd this for my home office: https://www.discobed-europe.com/disc-o-bed/home-and-outdoor/disc-o-bed-2xl-mit-seitentaschen-systeme_pid_840_7117.html?_ref=spot1&url=%2FProdukte%2FHome-and-Outdoor%2FSysteme%2F
23:12:48 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/T4frLEOh.jpg
23:13:18 <Ysjoelfir> nice, with integrated sun shade and storage room! reminds me of the workmate who has his bedroll at work though.
23:13:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol T3sl4
23:19:30 <Lord_of_nothing> i cant wait to get the bed
23:19:48 <Lord_of_nothing> it will be inproofed my think in the home office
23:22:32 <Lord_of_nothing> does anyone here have a medical degree?
23:29:08 <T3sl4> when Nothing\ comes back: https://imgur.com/gallery/GWBaKQE
23:29:50 <Ysjoelfir> ew
23:31:58 <Ysjoelfir> what do you need a medical degree for, Lord_of_nothing?
23:32:33 <K> squirrels
23:32:45 <K> obvs
23:32:50 <Ysjoelfir> I see
23:35:33 <Lord_of_nothing> i have just asome question to someone who know more about that than me
23:36:20 <Ysjoelfir> what specific medical field do you need help with? I know some people, maybe
23:54:23 <hsn> hhaha
23:54:28 <hsn> we just got beaten
23:54:47 <hsn> by higher managment guys
23:55:43 <Ysjoelfir> BECAUSE YOUR TOILET GOT CLOGGED UPß
23:55:45 <Ysjoelfir> sry caps
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