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00:38 <rust_collector> the hard bits of bmws tend to be good. it is just that you never know if anything electric will work that day or not
01:05 <hsn> yee
01:11 <Ysjoelfir> even my BMW motorcacle's electric system is crap
01:32 <rust_collector> I think that is a bike thing, really.
02:16 <Ysjoelfir> having a connector that is disconnected and bridged with a thick wire and that sparks as fuck when you remove the solid copper jumper and reconnect it?
02:46 <rust_collector> yeah, that would not surprize me at all,
03:07 <rust_collector> no no, it is user error
03:18 <rust_collector> nothing wrong with this design
03:28 <Ysjoelfir> one day I'll probably rip the wiring out and replace it with a homemade one
03:37 <rust_collector> oh, so there is something wrong here, damn parts suppliers
04:16 <rust_collector> that would probably work much better
06:08 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: system seems a grandiose term to use for the wiring in a bike
06:43 <rust_collector> yes, I think most of it is just a handy way to keep the parts from falling off
37:39 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/6q3knwdhbhz51.png
38:25 <Ysjoelfir> lol
48:30 <Ysjoelfir> https://youtu.be/r-XrjB0prFc?t=3118 I would be scared as fuck :D
48:40 <Ysjoelfir> that has to be A LOT of pressure
56:43 <rust_collector> meh... but why does he feel he has to push it down thru all that?
56:59 <Ysjoelfir> because he wants the piston out there?^^
57:22 <rust_collector> push it up?
58:17 <rust_collector> none of the ways are ideal in that case, but...
58:36 <Ysjoelfir> he decided against that as the back of the piston didn'T have that much surface to support pressure
58:46 <rust_collector> okeh
59:09 <Ysjoelfir> only the two "blocks" where the connection rod thingy between the piston and the.. rod goes through
59:26 <rust_collector> right...
00:34 <rust_collector> I feel he is pretty likely to collapse the ring land, but... I guess it does not matter much there
02:36 <rust_collector> oh well. so... I was out tacking some stuff on the onion van, and I had some sparks fly around my head, and down my neck, and burnt in somewhere down my back... which is ok... but somehow that happened 3 times. so I went inside to get more coffee
03:27 <electrohead> o/
04:09 <rust_collector> 'ola
04:23 <electrohead> e'yo
04:47 <T3sl4> i didn't know something could be stuck in something else, that hard
05:00 <T3sl4> without taking the trouble to make it a tapered fit or something
05:25 <rust_collector> a tapered piston would be cool, lol
05:58 <rust_collector> I guess it probably is, with the rust expanding, and crushing the piston
06:37 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, rust can make stuff stuck pretty badly
06:50 <rust_collector> but I have seen... not so much pistons, but the cylinders being pretty well stuck, enough that we had to torch them out
08:14 <rust_collector> when you get up to more than 80 tons on the press... well, it does not make sense to push harder, as other things will break before you get the part out
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10:08 <Ysjoelfir> plastic deformation can be pretty pretty sometimes
10:14 <rust_collector> sure
12:09 <rust_collector> I think I have a set of valves from an iveco. the timing belt broke, and it stuffed the valves closed. they are perfectly straight, it is just that they have a weird S shape just before the head
12:42 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
12:48 <rust_collector> but they do look sort of pretty in an artsy way
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14:25 <rust_collector> i have a feeling the guy was driving it italian style. the head was bent up between the bolts, so you could see light thru where the head gasket was
14:55 <IceGuest_77> T3sl4: You trying to hide from me? *tips hat*
14:58 <Ysjoelfir> eh? How could that even work? XD
15:10 Nick: IceGuest_77 is now known as Tezzers
15:15 * T3sl4 hugs Tezzers
15:26 * Ysjoelfir tazers Tezzers
15:26 <rust_collector> it didn't. that is why we got it in the shop, lol
15:27 * Tezzers hugs T3sl4, buhs.
15:33 <T3sl4> buh
15:34 <Ysjoelfir> ah :D
15:55 <Tezzers> T3sl4: Now I have to come here just to bitch and moan at you?
16:12 <T3sl4> fraid so
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16:52 <rust_collector> ok, I am going back outside
16:59 <Ampera> rust_collector, take me with you
17:28 <Tezzers> T3sl4: Apparently I'm going to be playing electrician on this new project too. I get to remember how to bend 3/4 pipe and doing a bunch of intricate bends up in a boom lift. It's going to suck, months behind schedule of course :D Because I can't keep my mouth shut and let them get the union guys to do this.
17:35 <Tezzers> What's new in your world.
17:40 <Ysjoelfir> i'll be going outside in a few hours too, join me if yoiu want Ampera
17:43 <Tezzers> .s/./? >_>
17:51 <T3sl4> you should join the union, more pay :P
17:57 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, you're allowed to leave the house there?
18:02 <Ampera> that's generous of the state
18:07 <Ysjoelfir> sure
18:07 <Tezzers> Ampera: You can join me on my trike in two hours or so, riding on the highwayy
18:17 <Ampera> no thanks I have an actual car
18:33 * Ysjoelfir will be going to fiy his bike later
18:34 <coppice> Ampera: you're allowed to leave your house in your will
18:36 <Ysjoelfir> *fix
18:47 <T3sl4> Tezzers, i made a blinkenlites https://imgur.com/gallery/OF4jAxh
18:49 <Tezzers> T3sl4: Union pays more? I'm making a whopping $31.50/hr. I "might" get promoted to salaried (non-exempt), maybe. idfk.
19:02 <Ampera> more than I make
19:04 <Tezzers> Ampera: I have a car and a tricycle.
19:11 <Tezzers> The tricycle is a lot more fun.
19:14 <T3sl4> could be 40+benes? idunno :P
19:16 <Ampera> coppice, you're obviously not a great supporter of home burials.
19:38 <Tezzers> T3sl4: That's miserable. Vacuum tubes? eugh x3
19:54 <coppice> T3sl4: do your vacuum tubes have red LEDs under them to enhance the cheery glow?
20:11 <T3sl4> says the guy who works alongside beam lines all day (for some value of "along")
20:14 <Ampera> I have no idea what the sparky union pays down in LI, where I live a journeyman gets payed 40+really nice benefits
20:16 <Ampera> starting
20:23 <Tezzers> In 6 months ish I think I'll be topping out the hourly wage worker pay grade.
20:30 <T3sl4> coppice: nope, 100% all natural free range valves
20:46 <T3sl4> or at least the mullards are valves, the RCA and GE are tubes
20:59 <Tezzers> Ampera: I'm not an electrician, and I'm not interested in being an electrician :shrug;
21:09 <Tezzers> And journeyman takes 5 years to get there
21:11 <T3sl4> although these all happen to be US brands, so nevermind that, but i have some others in the pile
21:13 <Tezzers> At least
21:15 <Ampera> why are you elechicken?
21:28 <coppice> T3sl4: you'll never make it in the guitar amp or audiophile business with that attitude
21:36 <Ampera> I would have gone off for an apprenticeship, but then I got hired to break things for a living
21:38 <Tezzers> T3sl4: Yeah, but I work on the new shit. I don't work with any PMTs.
21:44 <Ampera> and that seemed to be more in line with my skills and capabilities
21:53 <Tezzers> All the scintillators I work on are solid state
22:03 <T3sl4> ye
23:10 <coppice> T3sl4: those are some seriously vintage tubes. I wonder when Mullard made their last one? Come to that, I wonder when Philips made the last Mullard branded semiconductor?
24:04 <Ampera> interest rate for FHA loans with my CU is 3%
24:44 <Ampera> that's actually really good
25:25 <T3sl4> hmm, can't see any date codes on most of these, the writing is pretty worn off. one GE part says 61-04
25:35 <Ampera> if it was any lower they'd have to start paying me to buy the house
29:11 <rust_collector> I do not see a problem with that?
29:35 <T3sl4> rust_collector: Ampera is opposed to free handouts like universal housing
30:02 <rust_collector> oh right. I forgot
30:04 <hsn> hey ampera
38:17 <hsn> T3sl4: Ysjoelfir https://www.instagram.com/p/CHo4eNODu9b/?igshid=13apxm9xe21xh
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40:00 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D
40:06 <Ysjoelfir> that was pretty obvious
40:44 <jpt9> Mornin'.
40:53 <Ysjoelfir> hi
41:47 <jpt9> If anyone's keeping track of how people found EEVBlog, I was looking for reviews of the Casio fx-260 Solar II. Didn't *need* another calculator, but I got one anyway.
42:41 <jpt9> (As for other geeky things, I'm into ham radio and modular synthesis. Have a soldering iron laying around, but haven't built anything yet.)
43:09 <Ysjoelfir> then you're very welcome
43:34 <rust_collector> YAAY! a person!
43:42 <hsn> hello jpt9
43:48 <Ysjoelfir> wutt? person? where!?
43:49 <hsn> where r u from if i may ask ?
44:06 <rust_collector> I like modular things. but I have no musicality at all.
44:16 <jpt9> Boston, MA, USA. (In the northeast.)
44:23 <rust_collector> I still keep looking at synth related things, lol
44:44 <rust_collector> what is it with that part of the us...
45:00 <hsn> jpt9, does that make you a biden or a trump person ?
45:09 <jpt9> https://i.imgur.com/bC1Bq4G.jpg . Also, https://i.imgur.com/NVRjhAs.jpg
45:10 <rust_collector> no, he likes radios
45:12 <jpt9> Nope.
45:22 <hsn> also welcome :P im troll guy ..
45:31 <jpt9> Biden, rather. Misread the question.
45:37 <Ysjoelfir> no, you're mr. sandman :P
45:43 <Ysjoelfir> rusty is mr. troll
45:47 <rust_collector> OI!
45:49 <hsn> correct ..
46:05 <Ysjoelfir> you even have a region called troll stairs, so don't oi :P
46:06 <hsn> sometimes i got so much sand that i think im another person :>
46:24 <rust_collector> a region? nope, it is a road....
46:36 <T3sl4> nice synth
46:45 <jpt9> Thanks.
46:56 <rust_collector> that does look very neat
46:57 <hsn> hey we are more than 500sqkm
46:58 <Ysjoelfir> true, its a road. a very nice one though
47:16 <rust_collector> ok
47:20 <jpt9> I've also got a few Rubik's cubes (https://i.imgur.com/6wlLkH6.jpg) and some chess sets (https://i.imgur.com/LuK5TsB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KATF0kn.jpg). Not amazing at either, but fun at times.
47:43 <jpt9> Anyway, enough random geeky images.
47:49 <Ysjoelfir> the lemon guy would love the cubes :)
48:16 <jpt9> As for what it sounds like, see https://soundcloud.com/jptuttle
48:18 <Ysjoelfir> I love those chess figures :D
48:24 <hsn> jpt9, there is also a nice watch there
48:26 <rust_collector> ok, so what makes a keyboard 1v/octave anyway? I see things made for that, but I can not find a thing about the keyboard itself
48:56 <jpt9> hsn: Which one?
49:14 <hsn> right of the synthesizer
49:49 <hsn> thats right .. we all check everything on the imagges .. bcz thats us ..
49:50 <hsn> :D
49:51 <jpt9> Yeah. Timex Weekender -- got it earlier this year. My first analog one.
50:17 <jpt9> On the other side is my lovely light-up RF choke. /s
50:54 * hsn chokes T3sl4 
51:13 * T3sl4 capacitates hsn
51:17 <jpt9> Currenty have on a different watch strap: https://i.imgur.com/EilXtDv.jpg
52:10 * T3sl4 sips coffee
56:52 <hsn> is it only me who dont know how to read IPA english ?
57:03 <jpt9> Nope.
57:19 <hsn> ok then i should continue in my ignorance :P ?
57:36 <rust_collector> why change now?
57:37 <jpt9> Oh, and I've got more calculators: https://i.imgur.com/YkQB86X.jpg
57:40 <coppice> hsn: IPA is only really useful for phonetics teachers
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58:11 <hsn> coppice, i just wanted to know how to pronounce Heuristic
58:23 <rust_collector> nah, forget that
58:23 <hsn> i think im saying "bitch"iristic
58:48 <Ysjoelfir> I have a nice Privilet 853M calculator on my desk. would love to have a more scientific one with such a nice display.
59:11 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
00:02 <hsn> these are my calculators : https://snipboard.io/YzT78Q.jpg
00:06 <hsn> :(
00:25 <hsn> btw ^ new update to ms calc graphic option
00:37 <jpt9> I've also got an HP 49g+ somewhere, and some sort of old scientific one.
00:38 <T3sl4> my calculators ;) https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Calc/index.html
00:41 <Ysjoelfir> ms calc has an graphic option?
00:52 <jpt9> hsn: That works. Desmos is nice, too.
01:03 <Ysjoelfir> lol T3sl4
01:10 <hsn> nice ones T3sl4
01:13 <Ampera> HP 50g for the win!
01:16 <hsn> can i steal them ?
01:19 <Ampera> or HP Prime
01:20 <Ampera> both are good
01:22 <Ampera> or HP 48g
02:04 <jpt9> Admittedly, I bought the Casio graphing one partly because I missed having a graphing calcuator to play with, partly to have a Proper Embedded Device(tm), and party to stick it to TI for removing assembly programming.
02:06 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/KEFgSnc
02:33 <jpt9> Needless to say, Casio's registration and survey pages don't have any of these reasons. (Or the 'I bought it to play with math' reason.)
02:35 <rust_collector> this one can at least add numbers together
02:59 <hsn> eevblog say hello to jpt9
02:59 <EEVBlog> Hello there, hsn!
03:02 <Ampera> HP is the only calculator
04:39 <hsn> rust_collector, whats 1 day ago ?
05:00 <rust_collector> nah
05:19 <hsn> tell me im noisy
05:19 <rust_collector> youtube video
05:25 <rust_collector> i know
05:43 <rust_collector> but I am old, so I can ignore you, when I feel like it
06:01 <hsn> :D and when u dont feel like it ?
06:27 Quit: DarthYoda (DarthYodaX`[email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
06:30 <rust_collector> then I post noisy music for you
06:51 <rust_collector> hsn hates music
07:30 <Ysjoelfir> hsn is not allowed to have enjoys, because mr. king doesn't like enjoyment for his subordinates
07:46 <rust_collector> right
08:10 <rust_collector> hsn, just because you asked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBeNVcsyjPA
08:29 <hsn> https://youtu.be/sIQir_XqU3A?t=137 why im watching this
09:01 <hsn> rust_collector, for me it doesnt say "1 day ago"
09:13 <hsn> oh .. on the comments
09:17 <rust_collector> well, I don't care?
09:45 <hsn> dont u ?
09:51 <rust_collector> no
10:17 <hsn> u dont love me :( u never care
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10:30 <rust_collector> I do wonder if I should send some nordic sand, so you can compare to your baked sand
10:43 <jpt9> I've also got Free42 on my phone, but I mostly use it to calculate tips at restaurants. (Wrote a little program that does a 20% tip and total, showing both, cause 2-line display. Totally a good use for all this advanced technology.)
17:03 <hsn> is tip mandetory in europe like usa ?
17:15 <hsn> or the other way around ?
17:20 <rust_collector> no
17:57 <rust_collector> well, I don't know about all the places, but in general, people here get paid
18:02 <hsn> all europe or just few ?
18:04 <hsn> partial
18:13 <hsn> paid tip ?
18:18 <hsn> paid salary ?
18:22 <Ysjoelfir> depends on the region. IIRC its absolutely not nice to tip someone in rustyland, while here in germanistan its... kind of normal to give a SMALL tip (nowhere near 20%, more like.... 5% max), but also only in cheap restaurants, not in more pricey ones
19:05 <hsn> and does it go to the waiter
19:13 <hsn> or to the whole workers in restaurant ?
19:52 <Ysjoelfir> like when I go to a pub and drink a beer for 3.90 I give the guy 4 and tell him to keep the rest. but if I go to my favorite steakhouse where the cheapest meal is already like 30€ I pay the price and also give like 2€ max. like if its 38€ I give 40.
19:56 <Ysjoelfir> to the waiter usually
20:06 <rust_collector> it is ok to pay a bit here also, but it is often more to not get a few coins back, than anything
20:41 <Ysjoelfir> its basically like that as well, I give usually the amopunt I "need" to not get coins back^^
21:06 <rust_collector> but no one expect to get a tip here
21:10 <hsn> nowhere near 20%, more like.... 5% max
21:23 <hsn> i dont get it .. 20% max or 5% ?
22:16 <rust_collector> less than 5%
22:21 <Ysjoelfir> around here the only people "expecting" to get a tip (but not demanding it) are delivery guys (not post, but food delivery. like order from a restaurant, someone brings it to you, you give him a few coins. Or Drinks delivery)
22:26 <Ysjoelfir> yep, 5% max
22:56 <hsn> but what r u talking about 20%?
23:13 <hsn> actually . wait let me google "nowwhere" meaning
23:16 <Ysjoelfir> was refering to jpt9 's sentence
23:26 <Ysjoelfir> google "nowhere near" ;)
23:31 <hsn> ah
23:35 <rust_collector> not close to
23:48 <hsn> make sense now
24:15 <hsn> i was reading it like "now a days its near 20% .. but 5% is max" ..
24:47 <rust_collector> right
24:54 <hsn> ok i leave
25:00 <rust_collector> heh
25:00 <hsn> enough for today
25:12 <hsn> have to do some grilling
25:17 <rust_collector> hsn, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsYKbF-mgkA&list=OLAK5uy_kOon10biQm0egOvt_hd6Zky0ZD7YUmvak
25:22 <rust_collector> just for you
25:22 <hsn> we got nice weather now .. we can grill
25:33 <rust_collector> you always have nice weather
25:36 <hsn> thats so satanic
25:49 <hsn> Clear with periodic clouds
26:10 <hsn> https://www.weather-forecast.com/locations/Manama/forecasts/latest
26:28 <Tezzers> Any suggestions on how to make a non-plated D shaped hole in KiCAD?
26:28 <hsn> nice and cold
26:56 <Tezzers> I'm trying to just shoot a board off to a PCB fab that's literally just a 4HP blank plate to hold a bunch of BNCs in the back of a card cage >_>
30:13 <Ysjoelfir> have to go to the pharmacy.
30:20 <Ysjoelfir> later you people
30:32 <rust_collector> gnight
32:28 <hsn> Tezzers: idk sry
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06:10 <T3sl4> Tezzers: idunno, however you do board cutouts
06:44 <T3sl4> if the D's have to be particularly sharp, remember to relieve the inner radius with extra depth
06:51 <T3sl4> also, deez BNCs
11:57 <Tezzers> T3sl4: idk how to do internal cutouts in KiCAD >_>
12:10 <T3sl4> that makes two of us :D
17:42 <arch> see if the latest nightly includes support for whatever it is you're looking for. apparently you can now toggle keepout areas under passive components, that way you dont get copper pours overflowing between the cracks of resistors and caps
17:55 <arch> who knows what else has been added
19:17 <T3sl4> i'd be shocked and embarrassed if they didn't have cutouts since forever ago
20:38 <arch> yeah, it was only added in the v6 (unstable/nightly)
21:03 <arch> im on v5 (stable), and i have to manually put keepouts sometimes if the overflow looks expecially ugly
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32:19 <Ysjoelfir> re
33:17 <rust_collector> yep
34:32 * electrohead lights everything on fire
34:52 * rust_collector looks for hotdogs and a stick
36:28 * Ysjoelfir joins with marshmallows
38:30 <rust_collector> I just cut apart out old dining chairs. I think they will be good hammer handles and such
40:31 <rust_collector> but I have no idea where my spokeshave is...
40:35 <rust_collector> so not today
41:09 <Ysjoelfir> A spokeshave is still on my to get list. think that is a pretty usefull thing
41:18 <rust_collector> oh, it is
42:14 <rust_collector> even the cheap ones do ok. just clean up the blobs of paint they are dipped in, and sharpen the blade. They are not very picky things
44:59 <rust_collector> I did think about making a "sideways" handle for one of the planes, jsut to use on the shooting board
45:41 <Ysjoelfir> that would be handy? I think you have the european style planes up there too, so adding a handle should be easy
45:48 <rust_collector> because I have one plane that is pretty much useless as a plane, but it would work on its side, I think
46:04 <rust_collector> regular stanley sort of thing
46:11 <Ysjoelfir> oh. so no :D
46:29 <Ysjoelfir> meh, if its cast iron you could weld one onto there :P
46:38 <rust_collector> uhm,
46:46 <rust_collector> well, it is cast something
46:56 <Ysjoelfir> or drill and tap
47:00 <rust_collector> I am sure it has some iron in the mix
47:23 <rust_collector> but I was thinking I would use the regular bolt they come with?
48:10 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of tapping. We had the problem that our trainees at my soon-ex-company were to stupid to tap a single M3 thread into alu.. I found out why.
48:34 <rust_collector> he made a 3mm hole?
48:45 <Ysjoelfir> ah, well, why not? I thought you might want to be able to use it in its regular orientation :D
48:50 <Ysjoelfir> well.. that was mistake one
48:51 <K> fuck taping M3 by hand
48:55 <K> fuck it with a cactus
49:10 <rust_collector> nah, it is useless as a regular plane
49:29 <Ysjoelfir> mistake two was... some idiot put a M3.5 finishing tap into the 3 tap set.
49:35 <Ysjoelfir> guess how I found out
49:45 <K> "close enough!"
49:54 <Ysjoelfir> yeeeeahno
49:59 <rust_collector> yeah, it is just aluminium,
50:32 <rust_collector> I do not like taps smaller than 5mm
50:40 <K> yeah
50:47 <Kuschelpony> looks like a job to turn the drill into reverse, sprinkle some aluminium shavings over it and run it until the hole is melted close again :)
51:02 <K> haa
51:11 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeell... not sure if that works :P
51:21 <Ysjoelfir> whyt don't you like about small taps?
51:37 <rust_collector> because they are small?
51:42 <K> bitch to get stright
51:52 <K> snaps easily
52:04 <K> --> fuck with cactus
52:05 <rust_collector> nah, but they take close to negative torque to snap
52:12 <Tezzers> I guess I can just make a 9.7mm hole here instead of a D shaped cutout
52:14 <Tezzers> Buh
52:15 <Ysjoelfir> hm, i didn't hav too many problems with those yet. but yes, easy snapping is true
52:17 <Tezzers> https://i.gyazo.com/f18fe93dd343ee2461e3a3ac0b3ef849.png
52:25 <K> i had to hand tap 40 holes
52:35 <K> it can go and die in fire
52:56 <Ysjoelfir> K, thats what I did. with a cordeless screwdriver. only to find out that there was a M3.5 in that set -.-
53:25 <rust_collector> I think it is disturbing that m3.5 is a thing that exist, lol
53:29 <K> part goes to scrap eh
53:47 <K> M3.5 is a bit wonk, aye
54:04 <Ysjoelfir> M3.5 is crap, yes. But I just enlarged it to m4
54:11 <rust_collector> I would have to be doing something very special to need that
55:31 <rust_collector> I do have some pretty nice m5 and m6 self drilling taps. those are pretty nice if you are going into anything less than 8mm thick
55:55 <Ysjoelfir> those things scare me. I always think they are guaranteed to break
56:25 <rust_collector> yeah
56:34 <rust_collector> but they seem to do ok
58:22 <rust_collector> i got them from moms ex. I have no idea what he used them for, because I do not remember any tapped holes in his boat. but he had a little box full of them
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59:39 <Ysjoelfir> well... :D
59:51 <rust_collector> sssh!
00:09 <rust_collector> you are not halfcyan... stop it
00:32 * Ysjoelfir searches for halfcyan spraypaint
01:01 <rust_collector> you have to search in australistan
05:33 <Ysjoelfir> ew
15:51 <rust_collector> ewe
16:14 <rust_collector> ok, i am going to "work" have funners
16:26 <K> youra funner
19:40 <Ysjoelfir> have enjoys
22:28 <electrohead> NO YOU'RE A TOWEL
22:31 <electrohead> I mean
22:34 <electrohead> hey
22:59 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
23:14 <electrohead> hey-o
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34:45 <Ysjoelfir> oh great, my internet is slow as fuck, but the ISP is like "nooooo, nothing is wrong!"
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36:32 <Ysjoelfir> well, 700ms Ping and 1.38 MBit/s down- and 1.92MBit/s upload sounds pretty far from my paid 250/40
39:05 * electrohead sends you more megabits
39:27 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
40:38 <electrohead> if only that was possible, lol
43:20 <Ysjoelfir> woah, gets even faster!
43:44 <Ysjoelfir> download 1.76MBits, uplopad 690kBits!
43:48 <Ysjoelfir> but with 29ms ping
45:54 <arch> bless ublock. found how to block elements containing "intern" from job searches. saving time like that :D
46:27 <electrohead> :D
46:36 <electrohead> ublock and noscript are saints
47:19 <arch> this saves me so much time. before, i would be pelted with unwanted sponsored listings and positions for unpaid internships and other trashy companies. now i just blacklist once and that's it--no more dumbfuckery
47:50 <arch> www.monster.com###SearchResults > section.card-content:has-text(/intern/i)
47:54 <arch> boom
49:34 <arch> gorhill deserves the nobel peace prize
49:37 <Ampera> I don't get the point of noscript
49:44 <Ampera> it's an absolute pain in the ass to live with
50:10 <Ampera> I'm sure you could set all sort of stuff and make it a blacklist rather than a whitelist, but I've seen my dad using it whitelist and it's just an absolute nightmare anyone ever sent him a link to something
50:19 <arch> nuh uh. have you seen 90% of the sites these days? fucking 30 different server requests to all sorts of shady data mining and social media companies
50:28 <Ampera> no shit
50:31 <Ampera> who cares
50:42 <arch> i do. i dont want my bandwidth and CPU cycles wasted
50:54 <Ampera> if they are I close the site and don't go back there
51:02 <arch> with noscript, you blacklist once, and call it a day. couldn't be more simple
51:05 <Ampera> if it's just being aggressive in its loading whatever, I have plenty to go around
51:17 <Ampera> for every site you ever go to
51:50 <Ampera> and maybe you're someone who never sets foot outside of facebook, but I tend to go to a variety of script heavy sites that I do not feel like individually vetting/banning scripts for
52:09 <Ampera> or playing the wonderful game of, which js did I just block that's broken the site
52:22 <Ampera> it's like the IE site whitelist on Windows Server
53:31 <Ampera> and honestly I'm not sure if I've ever seen a site juice my CPU like that, maybe I just don't go to as many scumbag websites
53:48 <Ysjoelfir> reading this discussion I wonder which browser one should use nowadays. I am an opera user since the old days, but since its all chrome nowadays anyways,... is there something special that stands out? And no, I won't use firefox.
54:08 <Ampera> That's pretty much all there is, chromium or deal with firefox's bullshit
54:19 <Ampera> I just stick with vanilla chromium, it works well enough
54:24 <arch> use links browser like richard stallman
54:34 <arch> and enjoy your full text only experience
54:46 <Ampera> I've considered changing to Firefox, as I was hoping they'd have a better hardware accelerated video decode implementation
55:04 <Ampera> and they probably do, but since this really is only important on a portable device, and my portable device can do CPU decode without bursting into flames
55:13 <Ampera> its only benefit to me really just isn't much of a benefit to me
56:11 <Ampera> The only alternatives that I'm aware of are Konqueror, NetSurf, and maybe Midori
56:24 <Ampera> There's probably others, but I can't think of any
57:13 <Kuschelpony> i liked to use Midori in the past, they made it easy to switch between different local profiles and even run several independ ones in paralell with independ settings, completely eliminating cross-site-tracking or such issues
57:15 <Ampera> apparently GNOME Web also exists, but you'll probably half to install half of the GNOME stack just to use it
57:34 <Ysjoelfir> I used Konqueror when I tried linux, but I doubt that its available for win? or is it?
57:41 <Ampera> Midori refuses to work out of the box for me and I don't care enough to get it to work. It just feels stiff and annoying to use it for occasional stuff
57:46 <Kuschelpony> but recently Midori turned 180 degrees and is now proud to synchronize different instances over the cloud
57:53 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, who the hell uses Windows
57:58 <Ysjoelfir> I do.
58:02 <Kuschelpony> in XUbuntu, Midori works right out of the box
58:02 <Ampera> well stop doing that
58:10 <Ampera> fuck Ubuntu
58:12 <Ampera> Ucuntu
58:29 <Ampera> and yeah, Midori works, unless you want to watch a video
58:34 <Ampera> which is half the reason I use a web browser
58:39 <Ysjoelfir> I'll look into lonux again as soon as I have the time. but now I don't
58:59 <arch> Ubunturd
59:10 <Kuschelpony> well, i dont use Ubuntu...
59:15 <Kuschelpony> i use XUbuntu
59:22 <arch> Xubunturd
59:33 <Ampera> if I wanted Debian I'd use Debian
59:39 <arch> damn right
59:39 <Ampera> not a cheap bastardization of Debian
59:53 <arch> Ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning "i don't know how to use debian"
59:58 <Ampera> and Xubuntu just makes no sense to me, why do you need an entire other distro just to use XFCE
00:16 <Ampera> if I want Ubuntu but not whatever UI they're using this week, I'll just install it and swap
02:31 <arch> i remember using Slax, when i had a shitty Intel Pentium M 1.4GHz laptop with 256MB RAM only
02:32 <Ampera> get with it people, if you don't use the exact same things I use, you're wholly inferior to me and shouldn't even exist
03:03 <Ampera> I know what's best all the time, and anyone is just misinformed, wrong, and should probably be shut down, like T3sl4
04:33 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
04:45 * Ampera hugs T3sl4 
06:03 <Ampera> YouTube Music seems to love taking songs out of my playlists, and then replacing them with completely different songs that happen to have the same name
06:09 <Ampera> or different versions
06:40 <T3sl4> Ampera: your sarcasm is getting more advanced, but it's still easily detectable
07:19 <Ampera> My passive aggression not passive enough? Sorry, just trying to follow your example.
08:37 <Ampera> I swear MSSSMS is made by absolute gibbons
08:58 <Ampera> you right click on a database, and it will /hang/ while it goes and runs some query in the background to show you a menu that has no dynamic content
09:31 <Ampera> It also loves just hanging in the middle of you typing for no reason, like nobody who works at Microsoft has ever seen a machine with two threads before
54:10 <Kuschelpony> awesome, that guy built a digital clock with neon lamp ring counters https://pa3fwm.nl/projects/neonclock/
54:53 <Kuschelpony> originally i searched for the historic table calcultor using them as logic elements, do you possibly have a link for that one?
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04:44 <Ampera> oh that's neat
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35:00 <Ysjoelfir> So I went to the toilet and when I came back.... I think mrs. Spouse wants to tell me something. https://snipboard.io/sRWrq5.jpg
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33:43 <hsn> Hahhhhh https://www.instagram.com/p/CHZKBkqAFkc/?igshid=i3krdqsci8yv
34:50 <Ampera> good god you with the instagram links
34:55 <Ampera> stop using that shitty platform you heathen
35:09 <hsn> Ampera: help me
36:03 <Ampera> easy solution
36:06 <Ampera> 1. delete account
36:07 <Ampera> 2. ???
36:09 <Ampera> 3. profit
36:13 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/oAnHbGcUBVpyCXjM8 its this one
36:20 <hsn> Profit?
36:44 <Ampera> HAHAHAHAHA
36:45 <Ampera> That's great
37:17 <hsn> Ampera: i split the knowledge between the three big data companies
37:46 <Ampera> I have no connection with Facebook, I use Google because /everyone/ must, and I use Microsoft because I'm forced to for work
37:47 <hsn> I use google , facebook and twitter .. because im not socialisim
37:58 <Ampera> I stay far the fuck away from facebook, and I quit twitter
38:31 <hsn> Also i provide fake information to them somtimes
38:54 <hsn> In equal
39:07 <hsn> Ampera: cant u duckduckgo
39:20 <Ampera> I could, but I'm using chromium
39:21 <Ampera> so why bother
39:30 <Ampera> and google offers a better service than duckduckgo
39:37 <hsn> Agreed
39:48 <hsn> Because u dont use it
39:55 <hsn> U and people like u
40:05 <Ampera> I hate me and people like me
40:06 <hsn> And me xD
40:09 <Ampera> but not enough to do anything abou tit
40:21 <hsn> Its ok i love u
40:28 <hsn> One love is enough
04:53 <Some_Person> Wow. That calculator is hilariously bad
10:49 <hsn> Some_Person: there is generator.py guess what it does xD
11:01 <Ysjoelfir> generating stuff
11:18 <hsn> How did u know
13:13 <Ysjoelfir> just guessing
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13:46 <Hulk_Mullet> mornings
15:29 <Hulk_Mullet> hsn: u awake?
16:01 <hsn> Hulk_Mullet: and u oxidizer?
16:14 <hsn> Mornijg
16:17 <Hulk_Mullet> aye
16:51 <Hulk_Mullet> still awakenized
17:45 <Hulk_Mullet> did you build your cnc yet?
18:21 <hsn> Ohh
18:30 <hsn> No i was grilling
18:46 <Hulk_Mullet> that counts
19:02 <hsn> Also that profile forgot to take it out from car
19:34 <Hulk_Mullet> meh, it can wait until next week
20:24 <hsn> I need to do this stuff
20:26 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/FAGAnCgza3DzWWJp7
20:41 <Hulk_Mullet> so... what will it be? router? maybe start with a sharpie, and draw stuff?
20:49 <hsn> And put teeths belt etc etc
21:30 <hsn> Hulk_Mullet: tbh i want to do stupid one axis camera holder
22:17 <Hulk_Mullet> oh-k
22:20 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/1ggn8eCdDsbJsYKN9
22:40 <hsn> But with defined software speed and acceleration
23:13 <Hulk_Mullet> how long is your thing?
23:35 <Hulk_Mullet> teehee
24:38 <Hulk_Mullet> how about a cable, and not a belt?
24:40 <hsn> Hulk_Mullet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/152tvztM2Hu7_963d0DDSvKOG-vl6FufG/view?usp=drivesdk
26:04 <hsn> I think .. 1m
26:35 <Hulk_Mullet> ok should be fun
26:44 <hsn> 6pcs 800mm 6pcs 500mm
26:58 <hsn> 168$
27:15 <Hulk_Mullet> crazy
27:28 <hsn> I know
27:39 <hsn> But not available here
27:47 <Hulk_Mullet> but yeah... you have to spend some cash, or it would pile up
29:13 <hsn> It never pile
30:33 <Hulk_Mullet> i was wondering if a speed controller for a quadcopter would work to run a router motor... For some reason, I have 4 of them
31:19 <Hulk_Mullet> pretty incredible, they are rated for 35A each, and they are tiny
32:42 <hsn> I got esc from china somthing 30A i think
32:49 <hsn> Also 4
34:03 <Hulk_Mullet> yep. it was a kit. I have no idea why I got it, because i have no interest in those things
34:25 <Hulk_Mullet> æbut they look very nice and neat
34:27 <hsn> US $6.29 40%OFF | NEW 30A Simonk ESC with BEC For F450 S500 S550 RC Quadcotper Helicopter
34:27 <hsn> https://a.aliexpress.com/_mM7qim1
34:42 <hsn> I never used them
34:48 <hsn> Bcz i suck
35:40 <Hulk_Mullet> mine are blheli something... I have no idea, but I believe tjat os a kind of firmware
35:43 <hsn> I wanted to build one big quad thing with arduino but never started
36:08 <hsn> Yeah i think so
36:49 <hsn> The battery was expensive
37:02 <Hulk_Mullet> mmh
37:16 <Hulk_Mullet> i do have a... 7
37:29 <Hulk_Mullet> 7.4v pack, i think
37:32 <hsn> 7m
37:35 <hsn> US $28.31 27%OFF | HRB RC Lipo Battery 7.4V 5000mah 50C 100C 2S Battery for RC AKKU Car Boat Airplane Quadcopter Slash 4x4 Remo Hobby Jet
37:35 <hsn> https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOu4GNX
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38:08 <Hulk_Mullet> but no charger for it
38:39 <hsn> This US $24.89 35%OFF | iMAX B6AC 80W 6A Balance Charger Dual Power RC Lipo Battery Discharger Lipo Lipo Nimh Nicd Battery With Digital LCD Screen
38:39 <hsn> https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMfc7Wl
38:52 <hsn> Cheap buy it
38:57 <Hulk_Mullet> otoh, i have 2 cells from a booster pack, which should work the same
39:03 <hsn> That battery was smuggled
39:17 <Hulk_Mullet> crime is fun
39:35 <hsn> They put small battery as sacrifice
39:41 <hsn> In same pkg
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40:30 <hsn> So airport guy sorted it . Someone removed the sacrifice battery and shipped the item . Which has the big battery
40:45 <hsn> Hidden inside
41:00 <Hulk_Mullet> good thing they opened it that way then....
41:45 <hsn> All this .. after i paid for fedex which they offer lipo shipping ... But the seller wanted to cut cost so he decided to smuggle
42:14 <hsn> And took the fedex charge for him self
42:16 <hsn> Lol
42:16 <Ampera> did someone say crime is fun?
42:17 <Hulk_Mullet> i heard someone said they got a "mouse", which was empty, except a battery.
42:26 <Hulk_Mullet> yes, someone did
42:48 <Ampera> I love a crimes, I enjoy the crime every time
43:00 <Hulk_Mullet> and it is a steady income
43:03 <hsn> I kill lizards Ampera
43:04 <Ampera> merry crimesmas I say to everybody, then they laugh and I steal their wallets
43:28 <Hulk_Mullet> good times ahead
43:39 <Ampera> I hope so, times right now suck
44:12 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/FW3u9xchqYvwmBEfA
45:12 <hsn> Gn
45:15 * Ampera stuffs a jerboa down hsn's pants
45:24 <Ampera> good night sweetie
45:47 <Hulk_Mullet> good evenight
49:49 <Hulk_Mullet> this will be a slow run home. people have ordered a lot of heavy stuff
50:49 <Hulk_Mullet> the trailer was 36 tons, we will see what the truck ends up at
51:46 <Ysjoelfir> 36 tons... so your truck is 4 tons max? :D sounds slightly unrealistic?
51:53 * steve30 snuggles up to T3sl4 
51:59 <Hulk_Mullet> what?
52:30 <Hulk_Mullet> I am allowed up to 60...
52:36 <Ysjoelfir> oh :D here in germanistan truck + trailer is only allowed to have 40 tons max
53:17 <Hulk_Mullet> yea, well,, this is truck+trailer+trailer
54:00 <Ysjoelfir> THAT weould be especially not allowed ^^
54:15 <Hulk_Mullet> it is, some places
54:48 <Hulk_Mullet> max 25.25m
55:13 <Ysjoelfir> I doubt many drivers around here would even be able to drive that...
55:22 <Hulk_Mullet> as usual, just to get from denmark to holland, i think
56:01 <Hulk_Mullet> we are testing bigher things now, we will see
56:34 <Hulk_Mullet> the test is 32 or 34 meters, and 75 tons
57:06 <Ysjoelfir> I remember the time when I worked at the transport company as the IT guy... roughly every two weeks we had to rebuild a wall at my bureau because one of the drivers once again didn't manage to fit his truck (without any trailer) into the docking port thing
57:37 <Hulk_Mullet> it is a thing.... lol
00:52 <Hulk_Mullet> I just hope we get something with a real engine in to pull that
02:07 <Hulk_Mullet> we are still using little 500 horse trucks. it is not so bad around here, where it is pretty flat, but...
02:44 <Ysjoelfir> heh. that would be much around here.
03:18 <Hulk_Mullet> sure, but there is pretty very flat
03:24 <Ysjoelfir> true
04:12 <Hulk_Mullet> and you people have a thing for low power things. I am not sure why
05:20 <Ysjoelfir> don't ask me, I think its stupid
05:34 <Hulk_Mullet> As much as i would like an old ifa... I am glad I do not have one at work
10:00 <Ysjoelfir> well, you would suffer even more, which means even more money! \o/
10:05 <Hulk_Mullet> now I wonder why sandman wants to run a camera 1 meter back and forth
10:29 <Hulk_Mullet> ah, yes, there is that...
11:39 <Hulk_Mullet> hsn: should be sleeping now, because his confuser says "ding"
12:19 <Hulk_Mullet> aok, time to go... good night
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14:49 <Ampera> amazingly, Amazon fucked up the delivery and took like 2-3 weeks to get here, so I got them for free
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39:08 <Ysjoelfir> eh, T3sl4!
39:17 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/IRWvOp.jpg Got that fucker!
42:20 <Nothing\> morning all
42:26 <Nothing\> and by morning, i mean evening
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55:32 <DaF> Hello everyone, I am new to the forum, I was looking inside a 5ish $ smartwatch and found a misterious HS6620C uC, which seems to be a low power soc with bluetooth, but other than that I couldn't find else
57:02 <DaF> I think I'll probe it and take some pictures to find if it is programmable or what, do you think it ts better for a project thread or microcontrollers?
59:30 <TheDude> microcontrollers, definitely
01:39 <coppice> DaF: http://www.onmicro.com.cn/portal/article/index/cid/40/id/231.html
03:17 <DaF> Thanks a lot coppice, one day I'll have to learn chineese for there things...
04:37 <coppice> I have no idea if there is any English documentation for their products. Their silicon are mostly used by people who prefer Chinese documentation
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09:00 <DaF> Anyway it seems to be under nda, I will take some time to analyze test points to see if I find any indication of ARM programming or debugging interfaces, since a board with small screen, bt, battery and heart rate sensor for this low seems nice, I'll post progress in the forum!
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25:45 <Nothing\> oh sob
25:54 <Nothing\> i was gonna recommend aliexpress but he left
25:59 <Nothing\> i hate it when newbs do that
26:21 <Nothing\> at least you were able to help him coppice
26:38 <Nothing\> but so often i see a newb come in, ask a question, then leave before anyone even replies
26:45 <Nothing\> sometimes within 1 or 2 minutes of asking
28:18 <coppice> he found what he wanted
29:54 <TheDude> Nothing\, all too common
30:10 <TheDude> "hey, help me out will ya?"
30:24 <TheDude> "yea-" "NOPE, TOO LATE, KTHXBAI"
32:00 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: \o/
35:06 <T3sl4> hrm, just boss phase one? or is that with advanced disabled, i don't recall
35:14 <T3sl4> but i think battery is advanced so nvm?
36:14 <T3sl4> hey Nothing\
36:31 <Nothing\> TheDude, common westerners are too dependent on instant gratification
36:33 <Nothing\> myself included
36:38 <Nothing\> hey T3sl4 what's up
37:01 <Nothing\> i had a question for you earlier but damned if i remember what it was so i think it's lost for good
37:20 <T3sl4> heh, oh well
37:22 <Nothing\> it was one of those "i'm not sure who could answer it, but he could if anyone" sorta questions
37:39 <Nothing\> man, my mouth feels like i'm getting thrush
37:43 <Nothing\> all sort and irritated
38:09 <Nothing\> i have a mouthwash for thrush but don't wanna waste if if i don't have to
39:35 <T3sl4> the not-so-highly acclaimed prog rock cover band
40:44 <Nothing\> thrush?
41:04 <Nothing\> is that like a portmanteau of rush and some band i'm unfamiliar with?
41:16 <Nothing\> hey, T3sl4
41:25 <Nothing\> you know what i like about you, man? love, even.
41:47 <Nothing\> you always seem to be on the same level as me, intellectually speaking
41:51 <coppice> thrush - its a rush cover bad consisting of fun guys
42:07 <Nothing\> like i don't have to dumb down my speech so you'll understand it. or explain anything.
42:31 <Nothing\> you just get what i'm saying right away. it's not often i come across someone like that.
42:57 <Nothing\> and not just re: vocabulary, but also rather esoteric topics. Like the Bristol Stool Chart.
43:11 <T3sl4> eh, that's not so obscure
43:17 <T3sl4> lots of people love poop jokes
43:25 <Nothing\> well, you know what i mean though, i'm sure
43:36 <Nothing\> that was just the most recent thing i could remember
43:42 <T3sl4> and i mean, it's not like we're discussing quantum physics here
44:16 <Nothing\> well, we do sometimes
44:45 <Nothing\> btw i found out nothing freaks a cat out more than putting a mirror on the floor
44:49 <Nothing\> they treat it like a hole
45:37 <Nothing\> i used this little like 10x6in mirror and freaked my cat out with it
46:02 <Nothing\> i have one upstairs that's like 2x3 feet i wanna put on the floor for them, but it's so damned heavy
46:56 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz_bPU8sr3o
52:16 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/0PvjOZx.mp4
52:41 <Nothing\> hey, for cheating devices for video games back in the day
53:28 <Nothing\> you had PAR (Pro Action Replay), GC (Game Genie) and then ZSNES has GF, which i'm damned if i know what that one is
58:38 <Nothing\> man, i want my mom to buy another apple crisp, but i still haven't pooped out the last one i ate
58:58 <Nothing\> it can't be good to have 2 entire apple crisps stuck inside you
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12:49 <Nothing\> wtf
13:00 <Nothing\> $13 for a 256gb flash drive...
13:09 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/Flash-Drive-iPhone-Android-Memory/dp/B074G17N36/ref=sr_1_25?dchild=1&keywords=256gb+flash+drive&qid=1605571854&sr=8-25
13:28 <Nothing\> it's probably just usb 2.0 but still
13:51 <Nothing\> i don't think i could deal with those speeds for something THAT big
23:57 <Some_Person> Nothing\: I question if that's real
24:34 <Some_Person> especially given the poor reviews
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37:40 <Nothing\> Some_Person, yeah i didn't look at the reviews but that's what i thought
38:10 <Nothing\> but i don't see how a store can get away with selling a flash drive with spurious specs
38:45 <Nothing\> heh i remember one time i got a microsd card, not sure how big but it doesn't matter for the story
38:58 <Nothing\> so i cut open the package, pop it into my computer
39:02 <Nothing\> and nothing
39:15 <Nothing\> so after some fiddling around FINALLY my computer sees it
39:32 <Nothing\> and recognizes it as a something like 270mb unformatted drive
39:43 <Nothing\> wouldn't format it at all
39:55 <Nothing\> so i looked closer at the card and what not
40:17 <Nothing\> turned out i knicked the corner of it when i was cutting it out of the package and actually cut off part of it
40:25 <Nothing\> amazing that it still worked after that
40:30 <Nothing\> at least as well as it did
40:54 <Nothing\> it was barely a fraction of a millimeter i cut off, but apparently enough to do all that
41:36 <Nothing\> those microsd cards are probably just a die coated in something protective
41:56 <Nothing\> so i probably just cut a bunch of connections
52:15 <Nothing\> https://tinyurl.com/y4m4lprh
52:20 <Nothing\> yikes
52:50 <Nothing\> airforce pilot had to eject while going supersonic and the force basically tore his body apart
01:00 <T3sl4> that would suck
01:26 <T3sl4> there was the story of a SR-71 breakup, it basically disaassembled at three times that speed
01:49 <T3sl4> somehow, the cockpit / escape pod module survived and the pilots were recovered to tell the tale
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02:20 <Nothing\> T3sl4, aye, history guy did a video that covered that really well. Want a link?
02:31 <T3sl4> nah, i've heard it a few times
02:37 <Nothing\> nice
03:37 <Nothing\> yeah, you know more sr-71s were lost due to accidents than from enemies
03:50 <Nothing\> they were dangerous planes to fly
03:54 <T3sl4> yeah
04:19 <Nothing\> they had that one flaw, i forget exactly what it was, but it took the lives of many pilots
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04:29 <Nothing\> and was the cause that ejection you mentioned
05:05 Quit: jpt9 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
05:10 <T3sl4> i forget how many died and survived from those crashes
05:11 <Nothing\> some problem with the computer guided cone in the engine that's supposed to move back and forth depending on how fast it's going
05:51 <Nothing\> i think to limit the amount of air going into the engine. i forget how the whole thing worked.
06:15 <Nothing\> i couldn't even tell you the difference between a turbofan and a jet engine
06:26 <Nothing\> looking at a turbofan, you'd think it WAS a jet engine
06:51 <T3sl4> the core is a turbojet, the fan is just the huge front wheel
06:56 <Nothing\> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jonathan_Litt/publication/24335838/figure/fig3/AS:667660572438528@1536194093189/Commercial-turbofan-engine-cross-section-showing-components.png
07:11 <Nothing\> yah i figured it was something like that
07:31 <Nothing\> some of the air goes into the jet part and some gets used as a turboprop would
08:01 <T3sl4> and for the supersonic one, there's a cone to start a shockwave, that decelerates and pressurizes (acting as a ramjet in part) the incoming air, so it can go through a conventional jet engine
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09:45 <Nothing\> ah ok
09:58 <Nothing\> brb i've got some homemade soup that needs eating
11:36 <T3sl4> mmm, soup
13:00 <Nothing\> it's really just some chicken soup flavoured dumplings
13:09 <Nothing\> i think i told you about the dumplings, didn't i
13:31 <Nothing\> after a few days they absorb most of the juic
13:39 <T3sl4> i made, baked beans more or less, this morning
14:01 <arch> for a single layer copperclad PCB, should i strive for single point grounding at all times? how big a deal are ground loops if i surround the whole board with at least a few mm of ground pour on all sides?
14:11 <T3sl4> white beans, about 1/3 lb bacon, onion, chicken stock, a little garlic, molasses
14:24 <T3sl4> arch: that sounds terrible
14:44 <arch> you mean surrounding the whole board edges with ground?
15:47 <T3sl4> i mean doing anything other than stitching the ground as often as possible
16:04 <T3sl4> snake it between pins, you can even add jumpers
17:23 <arch> what i usually do is route the vcc above the ground pour with jumpers. do the same for grounds?
17:34 <arch> join ground islands with jumpers?
24:20 <arch> https://www.analog.com/media/en/analog-dialogue/volume-46/number-2/articles/staying_well_grounded.pdf
24:30 <arch> thats what i try following along to at least
26:00 <T3sl4> like, fig2 is missing exactly half of the picture
26:16 <T3sl4> the power supplies and signals all have inductances and resistances, and the inductances are mutual
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30:14 <arch> "The use of “bus wire” is totally unacceptable as a “ground” because of its impedance at the equivalent frequency of most logic transitions" is what it mentions, so i was kinda hesitant. but i guess it all depends on how hi-tech you're going. im gonna do pretty low tech stuff
30:58 <T3sl4> this article is.... supplementary, but it's neither very basic, nor very comprehensive
35:16 <arch> im gonna make a copperclad MPPT solar controller after this, or maybe the next two, projects
46:05 <T3sl4> arch and his MC34063s https://i.redd.it/qove27hweoz51.jpg
48:38 <Nothing\> https://lushprojects.com/circuitjs/circuitjs.html
48:44 <arch> more like this: https://i.imgur.com/TGJ6roM.png
48:51 <Nothing\> here's a better version of paul falstad's circuit simulator
49:19 <Nothing\> it's more up to date. More example circuits. Has more parts like triacs and diacs
50:18 <Nothing\> or even subcircuits you can configure, or points you can put on one part of the circuit that will let you continue it from another point on the screen that isn't physically attached
50:30 <Nothing\> lotsa cool upgrades to it
50:42 <Nothing\> it even has an FFT function in the scope
51:05 <Nothing\> or you can import/export sound files
51:20 <Nothing\> as an input or output for a circuit
51:51 <Nothing\> or data
53:10 <Nothing\> you can have more realistic parts, like a realistic op-amp, or diodes based on real life ones or even OTAs
56:57 <rust_collector> I wonder if daf guy had this "chip" https://fccid.io/2ACIKHS6620WC/User-Manual/User-manual-2322137.html
57:35 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.redd.it/f4qic7kt5nz51.jpg
01:33 <Nothing\> man
01:55 <Nothing\> this guy who came up with the idea of memristors is trying to claim they're the "4th passive device"
02:00 <rust_collector> evening Nothing\
02:11 <Nothing\> i may just be an amateur, but that sounds all kinds of wrong to me.
02:13 <Nothing\> heya rust_collector
02:19 <Nothing\> how's it going?
02:36 <rust_collector> mmh, not too too bad...
02:45 <Nothing\> good stuff
02:57 <rust_collector> how are things in new-france?
03:04 <Nothing\> i finally forced myself to eat some chicken soup so i feel good
03:12 <Nothing\> new france is quebec
03:22 <rust_collector> close enough, lol
03:31 <Nothing\> there is very little similar between english speaking canada and french canada
03:48 <Nothing\> in fact, a lot of french canadians are seperatists
04:14 <rust_collector> forced to eat chicken soup? I would not need to be very force-fied to do that
04:31 <Nothing\> there was a big thing a few decades ago where they had a referendum to separate from Canada that failed miserably.
04:49 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, I think I remember something about that
04:49 <Nothing\> But showed a lot of quebcois are pro-separatism
05:28 <Nothing\> rust_collector, it's tasty home made chicken soup with dumpings in it made from cream of wheat mixed with egg
05:55 <rust_collector> hmm, was it newfoundland that joined pretty late? there was some state anyway
05:58 <Nothing\> most of what i had was dumplings cuz after 2 or 3 days of sitting, they absorb most of the liquid
06:28 <Nothing\> yeah newfoundland i believe was the last province to join the confederacy
06:29 <rust_collector> that is the best part of soup, when it has...uhm, soaked in and mixed
06:47 <Nothing\> although nunavut was founded some time in the 90's, it's a territory and not a province
07:13 <Nothing\> and basically the most uninhabitable part of canada
07:30 <Nothing\> apparently they only just got their first case of covid-19 recently
08:06 <rust_collector> there are some places where you really wonder why people live
08:34 <Nothing\> well it's mostly indiginous people who live up there
08:54 <Nothing\> the umm... oh shit what are they called
09:23 <Nothing\> well, the eskimos
09:30 <Nothing\> much as i wanted to avoid using that word
09:37 <Nothing\> but you know what i mean
09:42 <Nothing\> i can't think of the name
09:54 <rust_collector> meh. eskimo is fine
10:18 <Nothing\> inuktitut
10:31 <rust_collector> uuuuh
10:39 <rust_collector> eskimo... yep
10:52 <Nothing\> heh
11:10 <Nothing\> we treat them like they're important up here
11:24 <rust_collector> I hope they all live in igloos and go clubbing every weekend
11:56 <Nothing\> like nunavut was an entire territory given to them. for them to govern over with relative freedom on the provincial level or whatever it's called
12:07 <Nothing\> i'm not sure how territories work exactly
12:17 <Nothing\> rust_collector, they really do-
12:40 <Nothing\> we even gave them their own coinage
12:46 <Nothing\> with the $2 coin
12:55 <Nothing\> well, we gave the polar bears the coin
13:26 <Nothing\> but i'm pretty sure i've seen an eskimo on a bank note before
13:42 <rust_collector> did the polar bear use it to buy ice cream?
13:48 <Nothing\> cuz he looked like robocop with those "snow shades" on, if you've ever seen those
14:00 <rust_collector> heh
14:03 <rust_collector> yes
14:05 <Nothing\> they're just like a piece bone with tiny slits carved into them them they wear over their eyes
14:41 <Nothing\> inuit!
14:47 <Nothing\> that's the word i was searching for
14:55 <Nothing\> that's the proper nomenclature for them up here
15:04 <Nothing\> like how we call indians natives
15:32 <rust_collector> right
15:56 <rust_collector> if you say that to an indian...
17:10 <Nothing\> if you called a native an indian here
17:18 <rust_collector> they say. sir, we have diskoverrd that your computer is virus, plis let me eelp you make it safe
17:21 <Nothing\> you'd be liable to get your head stomped in
17:36 <Nothing\> lol we have a lot of those here too
18:05 <Nothing\> most of them are actually unusually nice and hospitable
18:12 <Nothing\> almost to the point that it seems fake
18:19 <Nothing\> but it's genuine
20:08 <rust_collector> I have only had one call like that. it was some woman called "ruth" calling from windows support
20:54 <rust_collector> that was interesting
22:27 <Nothing\> ah man, now that's how hot chocolate should be
22:51 <Nothing\> splash of half and half and a spoonfull of sugar mixed in
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23:10 <Nothing\> lol yeah they always have american names
23:18 <Nothing\> but damned if they can spell them
23:57 <Nothing\> like this guy on cops i saw yesterday who gave his name as john smith
24:21 <Nothing\> "last name's spelled... s, m.... i... tith"
25:18 <Nothing\> this game i found, opus magnum is pretty damn fun
25:24 <rust_collector> pronounced davidson
25:39 <Nothing\> lol it's like the simpsons
25:41 <T3sl4> a bit of cinnamon is nice too
25:48 <Nothing\> with mr burns
26:04 <Nothing\> T3sl4, not a fan of cinnamon cuz it doesn't dissolve so you get big clumps
26:16 <Nothing\> unless you mean a cinnamon stick soaking in it
26:34 <T3sl4> oh, just a little on top, or added when you start from dry powder so it ends up mushed in
26:41 <Nothing\> but yeah it's ilke the simpsons with mr burns
27:10 <Nothing\> "i wonder if this homer nixon has any relation to richard nixon"
27:16 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3FUVDJtiSQ
27:30 <Nothing\> smithers: "I don't know sir, the names are spelled and pronounced differently"
28:04 <Nothing\> haha classic
28:12 <Nothing\> i should really watch the first season
28:39 <Nothing\> i generally discount it as... not exactly garbage. But compared to seasons 2-5 it is
28:51 <Nothing\> but it's still got some great moments in it
29:18 <Nothing\> though bart failing grade 4 and crying his heart out over it is a bit much
31:53 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=197385486
32:24 <rust_collector> the stick on text there says: don't write on the instruments
33:02 <rust_collector> i wonder if it is a thing to write on test gear
34:16 <Nothing\> lol
34:25 <Nothing\> they just wanted to be a rebel
34:37 <Nothing\> i've always wanted to carve my name into a large boulder
34:54 <Nothing\> not for the sake of graffiti or anything, mind you
35:33 <Nothing\> but because i realize, next to metal, rock is one of the most permanent and abundant materials we have
36:11 <Nothing\> so by carving my name into a large rock, i can sort of preserve my legacy. at least to some degree.
36:50 <Nothing\> It's no journal of Samuel Pepys, but it's something to showe that I existed at some point
37:00 <rust_collector> someone had spray painted ... oh what was it... it was the names of 2 people. it was like if you sprayed " john and david" on a rock next to the road. it was there for many many years, and turned into a landmark
37:17 <Nothing\> weird
37:29 <Nothing\> i always thought it was stupid to use your name in graffiti like that
37:39 <rust_collector> blue, with white outline
37:56 <rust_collector> I am not sure if it was the persons name.
38:09 <Nothing\> like carving "<name> was here" into a desk at school when there's a seating plan that puts you right at that desk all year long
38:35 <Nothing\> there's a lot of graffiti in the bathroom stalls at the courthouse
39:03 <rust_collector> graffiti can be nice, but I do not like tagging
39:36 <Nothing\> actually i remember the one prison I was in... I think it was the courthouse, they had me in an elevator.
39:45 <rust_collector> I mean, taking a sharpie and writing BOB. that is not very cool, imo
40:21 <Nothing\> and the way the elevators work is they've got your hands cuffed and feet shackled, all that stuff and then inside the elevator is a little sorta jail cell that they lock you in, right.
40:44 <Nothing\> but somehow there was graffiti carved into the opposite walls from the little jail cell
41:00 <rust_collector> and especially when they write BOB BOB BOB BOB BOB BOB all along the wall, then on the next wall, and the bus shed, and garbage can, and some kids pram, and
41:31 <Nothing\> not even sure what they'd carve it with considering at that point you're wearing prison attire and don't have anything sharp on you at all
41:44 <rust_collector> well.....
42:00 <Nothing\> maybe the cuffs, but that would be painful
42:23 <Nothing\> those things really hurt your wrists, even when worn properly they'll still bruise you up pretty good after a few hours
42:57 <Nothing\> cuz for some reason the entire time you're in the courthouse they keep you cuffed and shackled
43:05 <Nothing\> not just when they take you out of your cell
43:32 <Nothing\> shackled being ankle cuffs
43:34 <rust_collector> they should have those chains with a ball on the end, lol
43:37 <Nothing\> and waist chains
43:51 <Nothing\> haha that'd be funny
44:00 <Nothing\> even if it was just a plastic one for show
44:19 <Nothing\> i looked those up the other day, apparently they didn't weigh THAT much
44:44 <rust_collector> maybe not, but I bet it made it difficult to run very far
44:47 <Nothing\> they were more meant to hinder movement than prevent it entirely. Which is what I always thought they were for.
45:17 <rust_collector> if that was the point, they would have a chain with an anvil, or a tractor with no wheels
45:27 <Nothing\> lol i remember when they took me to get my methadone. they'd already done the thing where they took my best and shoelaces etc
45:55 <Nothing\> and the one cop's like "now, you're not gonna run from us when we let you out, are you?"
46:32 <Nothing\> I'm like "you really think i'd get far? my pants would be around my ankles within 5 steps and i'd probably do a faceplant"
47:11 <Nothing\> that was while i was held at the station
47:19 <Nothing\> so these were just regular cops
47:47 <Nothing\> the guards at the actual prison in toronto were great. They were fun to joke around with.
48:49 <Nothing\> they always gave me a hard time cuz our jumpsuits had a pocket in the front that i'd keep some toilet paper in to blow/wipe my nose cuz it was always runny
49:12 <Nothing\> any time i went down for methadone they'd jokingly treat me like i've got drugs in there
49:46 <Nothing\> the one guard's like "alright man, so who gave you the crack? come on, you can tell me. who gave you the crack?"
49:53 <rust_collector> then one day you had smuggled in a rabbit...
50:01 <Nothing\> I'm like "ah man, you know what they say about snitches"
50:18 <Nothing\> and he goes "yeah, snitches get bitches. So out with it"
50:27 <Nothing\> rofl rust_collector
50:40 <Nothing\> they really went all out with the security in that place
50:47 <Nothing\> to the point of x-raying our rectums
51:41 <rust_collector> well, I guess there will always be a way... so the lesson is to not stuff a rabbit up your ass
52:06 <Nothing\> and if you failed that too many times they'd make you poop for them. and if you still failed, they'd take you down to the hole to what's called a dry cell. Which is a cell with no plumbing. Just a bucket for you to shit and piss into.
52:30 <Nothing\> and you don't come out till they get a shit and you pass the x-ray or the contraband comes out
53:06 <Nothing\> thing is, it's so damn cold in the hole. there's no way anyone can shit in that kinda cold.
53:18 <rust_collector> sure you can
53:38 <Nothing\> i couldn't. not with my stomach muscles all clenched up.
53:40 <rust_collector> you just save up energy as long as you can, and BOOM! done
53:56 <Nothing\> i can't even shit in the morning when my mum's got all the windows open and it's 10c out
54:04 <rust_collector> heh.
54:55 <rust_collector> I remember it was a very refreshing feeling to take a shit in -35. I did not spend much time doing that
56:08 <rust_collector> that was almost a gender changing experience
56:17 <Nothing\> heh one of my best memories was living on the shore of georgian bay, just off of lake huron.
56:47 <Nothing\> it was -40 the one day and i was only 2 blocks from this nice little lookout point on the shore. So I took a walk out there.
57:33 <Nothing\> And none of the water had frozen yet. So with the temperature difference between the water and the air, the water was pouring off all sorts of steam
57:46 <Nothing\> it looked like the entire bay was boiling
59:43 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
59:51 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
59:53 <Nothing\> heya buddy
59:59 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
00:00 <Nothing\> i knew you'd come around sooner or later
00:04 <Nothing\> i'm doing well
00:15 <Nothing\> yes, quite well indeed
00:26 <Nothing\> and you, my friend?
00:29 <Ampera> well I was hoping to sleep through to 2 in the morning, but I'm finding myself unable to go back to sleep
00:32 <Nothing\> whom i realized is my best friend
00:46 <Ampera> fuck, I am?
00:47 <Ampera> shit
00:48 <Nothing\> lol seriously i just realized of all my friends. you're the best
00:58 <Ampera> now I can't say I don't have any friends anymore
00:59 <Ampera> FUCK
01:06 <Nothing\> not just online, but all together.
01:20 <Nothing\> see, there ya go
01:34 <Ampera> Regardless, that's nice to hear, Nothing\. You mean Nothing\ to me, of course.
01:37 <Nothing\> that sucks though, about the sleep
01:50 <Nothing\> of course i do =P
02:02 <Ampera> oh yeah I could fix it lickety shit with some diphenhydramine but it doesn't work that great for getting my sleep schedule into the whack I want it
02:16 <Ampera> I want to be going to bed at around 6-8 and waking up at 2am, but I've just not been able to do it
02:25 <Nothing\> careful, that stuff'll bung you up
02:28 <Ampera> and I am a weakling, I do not like being up with little to no sleep
02:38 <Nothing\> if you take it on a regular basis that is
02:41 <Ampera> I know, which is why I'm not going to be using it, I only use it seldomly
02:51 <Nothing\> good stuff
02:54 <Ampera> I take it maybe a few times a month
03:17 <Ampera> just because I do have mild allergies some time (or some sort of reaction similar to allergies to something) and those do help better than cetrizine
03:20 <Ampera> which I do take regularly
03:26 <Nothing\> in general, when used in therapeutic amounts for short periods of time, the stuff has minor to no side effects.
03:32 <Nothing\> maybe some dry mouth
03:41 <Nothing\> and of course drowsiness
03:52 <rust_collector> hmm, that reminds me... I have to take my pill
03:53 <Ampera> I consider that it's main feature
04:03 <Ampera> er, its
04:20 <Nothing\> btw if you need some benedryl/diphenhydramine in a pinch (for anything but sleep) but haven't got any around
04:33 <Nothing\> motion sickness tablets like dramamine are the exact same thing
04:35 <Ampera> I have a 365 caplet bottle
04:45 <Ampera> yeah because I'm gonna have motion sickness tablets around
05:13 <Nothing\> they just add a mild stimulant to it to counteract the sleepiness. But from talking to people it sounds like it doesn't work very well
05:21 <Ampera> the one thing that is somewhat hard to keep in stock for me is calcium carbonate, magnesium hydrozide, and famotodine
05:24 <Ampera> just because I use so damn much of it
05:31 <Nothing\> but yeah seriously, benedryl and dramamine are the exact same drugs
05:35 <rust_collector> ok, wth is this stuff... di somethingsomethingium
05:47 <Ampera> rust_collector, an antihistamine, benadryl
05:49 <Nothing\> even though one's called diphenhydramine and the other's called dimenhydrinate
06:01 <Nothing\> they're the exact same drug
06:03 <Ampera> it's used for allergic reactions, but most people use it to send themselves to the shadow realm
06:26 <Nothing\> jut dimenhydrinate has that xanthine compound in it as a mild stimulant
06:53 <Ampera> I always wondered what would happen if I mixed 200mg caffeine with a double dose of benadryl
07:04 <Nothing\> Ampera, interesting factoid, the "trip" you get from overdosing on it is actually a form of toxicity
07:08 <Ampera> presumably I'd start seeing through space-time
07:20 <rust_collector> ok, Nothing\ what does this stuff do? diklofenakkalium
07:29 <Ampera> I've never overdosed on anything
07:31 <Nothing\> the technical term is anticholinergic toxidrome
07:36 <Ampera> maybe calcium carbonate, but it's not easy to overdose on that
07:53 <Nothing\> rust_collector, in terms of what? recreational effects? or therapeutic effects?
07:58 <Ampera> potentially famotodine too, but I try to keep an eye on my consumption of that
08:25 <Ampera> rust_collector, it reduces the body's production of histamine, which is I believe a hormone to do with your immune response
08:25 <rust_collector> more therapeutic. I can not afford this stuff for fun
08:41 <Nothing\> rust_collector, it's just for allergies
08:43 <Ampera> so if your body is going apeshit like with allergies it'll calm it down
08:50 <Nothing\> standard allergy medication
08:56 <Ampera> but it's also a strong depressant, so it has like a 50/50 chance of knocking you the fuck out
09:07 <Nothing\> but has a nasty side effect of making one quite drowsy
09:16 <Ampera> again, don't consider that nasty
09:16 <Nothing\> in some people anyways
09:29 <Nothing\> Ampera, if you take it for sleep it's not, no
09:45 <Nothing\> but if you're taking it for allergies it is
09:48 <Ampera> I figure if I'm that buggered to need it, I'm sleeping anyways
09:58 <Ampera> otherwise I usually take cetrizine, but you can only take a single dose of that in 24 hours
10:17 <Nothing\> certrizine?
10:24 <Nothing\> isn't that an antidepressant?
10:35 <Nothing\> i probably misspelled it too
10:39 <Ampera> no it's an antihistamine, but a more refined one that doesn't tend to cause as much drowsiness in as many people
10:48 <rust_collector> common allergy thing
10:48 <Nothing\> ah okay
10:56 <Ampera> it has a generic that starts with z, but I forgot what it's called
10:59 <Nothing\> like loratidine
11:05 <Ampera> it's not Zantec, that's randitine
11:07 <rust_collector> zyrtek
11:13 <Ampera> yeah
11:13 <Ampera> that
11:20 <Nothing\> zyrtex sounds right
11:23 <Ampera> didn't even need to go look at the bottle
11:30 <Ampera> it's zyrtek
11:34 <Nothing\> i'm glad i don't have allergies
11:56 <rust_collector> i have allergies every other time I go to get tested....
11:57 <Ampera> I don't, but I also do
12:04 <Nothing\> i mean, i know i'm allergic to something cuz i've had reactions in the past. One was quite severe. But I've never figured out what.
12:14 <Nothing\> i tested negative for everything as a kid.
12:16 <Ampera> I think I just tend to be in a dusty environment sometimes, so I'm not allergic to anything, I just get irritated
12:31 <Nothing\> but the one time, my entire body got soooo damn itchy.
12:31 <Ampera> Actually no I am allergic to one thing.
12:39 <Ampera> I'm allergic to the entire state of Connecticut
12:43 <Nothing\> itchier than i've ever been in my entire life
12:50 <rust_collector> ants?
12:52 <Ampera> last few times I've visited I was sneezing like a motherfucker
12:52 <Nothing\> i just wanted to scratch my skin off
12:59 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol not this time
13:08 <Nothing\> then i started to break out in hives
13:27 <Ampera> ah yeah I broke out in a massive histemic rash once before
13:27 <Nothing\> so i sent my mom to the store to get benedryl since we had none and hopped in the shower for the itching
13:43 <Nothing\> when she got back, i took 2 of them and within 20 minutes i was better
13:49 <Ampera> which required a hospital visit as I was too young to go to a clinic without the supervision of a parent, for whom one was not near
13:53 <Nothing\> i could get out of the shower and the hives were going down
14:01 <Nothing\> i dunno what set it off but it was intense
14:08 <Ampera> yeah I tried taking benadryl and it didn't do jack shit
14:12 <Nothing\> i've never itched so bad in my life
14:15 <Ampera> like this was a serious reaction
14:27 <Ampera> I think I recall what it was though
14:45 <Ampera> my aunt and uncle had their trees in the back yard sprayed with mosquito repellant
14:55 <Ampera> but then I had cut one of them down they didn't want, and started burning it
15:22 <Ampera> so presumably whatever schmoo they had on the trees burned and poisoned me with whatever sort of bullshit
15:27 <Nothing\> i think i have an allergy to dust, cuz after cleaning under my bed, which gets really dusty and kicks up a lot of dust as a result, I get the whole watery eyes, runny nose, itchy face sorta thing.
15:50 <rust_collector> everyone is "allergic" to dust
16:01 <Nothing\> that's what i was wondering
16:09 <Nothing\> if it was just a natural reaction to an irritant
16:22 <rust_collector> not an allergy as such, but it does irritate avarything
16:24 <Ampera> I have a hankering for pepper right now
16:31 <Ampera> just, food with black pepper
16:40 <Ampera> I need to get a pepper mill actually, I was thinking of buying a peugeot
16:40 <Nothing\> make some peppered beef
16:47 <Ampera> I have no beef
16:47 <rust_collector> I used to have toast with butter and pepper
16:48 <Nothing\> peppered steak is soooo tasty
16:59 <Ampera> and what meats I do have are frozen cock stiff
17:00 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol i used to eat raw bacon
17:07 <Ampera> I do that still
17:09 <Ampera> is delicious
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17:25 <Nothing\> or at least chew on it anyways. it's damn near impossible to chew raw bacon so it can be swallowed.
17:42 <Ampera> how so
17:45 <Ampera> I've done it plenty of times
17:48 <Nothing\> it's chewy
17:53 <Ampera> actually I have a pack of bacon I need to use up at some point
17:59 <Ampera> thanks for reminding me
18:12 <Ampera> maybe I'll make eggs and bacon tomorrow morning
18:18 <Ampera> if only I had bread for toast, oh well
18:57 <Ampera> I do have hash brown though...
21:14 <rust_collector> well, I have been dumb and said yes to do something tomorrow, so I guess I have to go to bed
21:18 <Ampera> I am hungry now though, it's just that I kinda don't want to make anything
21:22 <Ampera> and I have nothing easy to snack on
21:32 <Ampera> sorry rust_collector, have fun
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21:45 <rust_collector> oh yes. much fun
21:57 <rust_collector> good night
22:09 <Ampera> ugh maybe I'll do an all night run
22:20 <Ampera> just inject enough liquidized caffine down my eyeballs
26:41 <Ampera> I think I'll crack for a smack of mac
26:49 <Ampera> with enough pepper to kill several horses
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11:00 <Nothing\> steve mould's been putting out a lotta videos lately
11:04 <Nothing\> or is it jut me?
13:57 <hsn> gm Nothing\
14:09 <hsn> hope u best day ever
15:04 <hsn> as ever goes from current to -Inf
19:26 <Nothing\> thanks man <3
19:32 <Nothing\> and you as well
19:41 <Nothing\> i hope you have a terrific day
20:15 <Nothing\> even though it's 2am and the day's mostly over here. I suppose we could say it's also just beginning.
22:55 <hsn> its almost 12h difference i guess
23:03 <hsn> 9:22am
23:12 <hsn> i mean 6 .. sry
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12:21 <Ysjoelfir> mornings all
28:28 <hsn> morning Ysjoelfir
29:36 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr sand
36:42 <hsn> how is it going for u today
39:28 <Ysjoelfir> The day just begun, so... no idea. I assume I'll be annoyed as hell since today is a day where we have to be in the office instead of doing home office
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48:59 <Halcyon> Evening all
55:10 <Ysjoelfir> mornings Halcyon
01:23 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, maybe ask Halcyon to exchange half day .. he just finished and thinking about what to eat dinner ..
02:01 <Ysjoelfir> great idea! Halcyon, I offer you half a day of work for your dinner
02:08 <Halcyon> I've had dinner
02:16 <Halcyon> I had spaghetti bolognese :P
02:30 <Halcyon> And no thanks, I wish my days were shorter already
02:39 <hsn> :D
02:41 <Ysjoelfir> thats ok, then I offer you half a day of work in exchange for relaxing after dinner.
03:06 <hsn> i offer u half day work for exchange i give 2nd dinner :P
03:54 <hsn> also Halcyon u may findout somthing on the mean boss mr head of Ysjoelfir and jail him ..
04:03 <hsn> i'll be happy :P
04:20 <hsn> mr head of dev of Ysjoelfir
15:22 <Ysjoelfir> Heh. :D Yep, that would be nice. But not neccessary, I'll survive the last 13 days I am here
22:21 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, u got excelent software coworkers ?
22:50 <Ysjoelfir> that depends. Some are good, one is an idiot, some are... mediocre
23:18 <hsn> mediocre
23:32 <hsn> can u tell me ..
23:56 <Ysjoelfir> a story....
24:06 <Ysjoelfir> about a snake...
24:15 <Ysjoelfir> riding a dromedary...
24:26 <hsn> is it only me who chat with my self on comments ? or everyone else does ? https://snipboard.io/Fn0LtC.jpg
24:51 <Ysjoelfir> well, at least I do that as well
25:14 <hsn> as i know at some point .. the software has to go to 3rd party for review and i dont know if this is considered very bad and i should stop it ?
25:43 <Ysjoelfir> I think most people do it?
26:00 <Ysjoelfir> brb, impromptu meeting
26:08 <hsn> enjoy
12:12 <K> hello
13:28 <K> hsn, short comments in tricky places is acceptable
14:17 <K> as long it is not swearing or inapropriate language. i'd also check for spelling/grammar errors if anyone else is going to read it
15:06 <hsn> K, so im refering to "craziness" as tricky thing .. would u say "inappropriate language" ?
15:15 <hsn> for that comment
15:22 <K> hm, i would not use that word
15:36 <K> but that is just me
15:41 <hsn> ok ,, sometimes i write "hsn be careful" xD
15:48 <hsn> is that .. not cool ?
16:00 <hsn> i guess its not .. i shouldnt talk to my self ..
16:05 <K> / there be dragons
16:45 <hsn> playing with fireballs
16:45 <K> talking to yourself is kinda strange
17:03 <hsn> K, its like "todo list" .. but stupid way
17:41 <hsn> i should prolly implement proper #todo list that notes the compiler at compilation time or somthing
20:01 <K> mmmaybe
59:46 <Ysjoelfir> re
10:39 <Halcyon> Hey guys... question...
11:02 <Halcyon> With MOVs, do they generally fail open or fail short when they've copped too many surges?
14:44 <Ysjoelfir> MOVs usually fail short
15:41 <Halcyon> So, with lightning protection, do they use a different technology?
15:59 <Halcyon> I understand the goal is to divert the surge to ground, but there would also be some residual currant right?
16:04 <Halcyon> *current
16:19 <Ysjoelfir> The lightning protections I opened up usually used either GDTs or a combination of MOV and GDT
16:30 <Ysjoelfir> yes, MOVs have a residual current in normal use
16:40 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, thats the goal :)
16:42 <Halcyon> Okies, thanks :)
17:09 * Ysjoelfir expects T3sl4 to pop up and whack me because I have missed some obvious thing XD
17:41 <Ysjoelfir> you can get MOVs from silicium oxide (?) though that are better in terms of residual current and, IIRC, they also fail usually open
21:12 <K> You like to MOV it, MOV it?
23:43 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
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25:06 <Halcyon> Heheh well done K
30:06 <Halcyon> I honestly don't get the attraction: https://www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/hulking-195cm-bodybuilder-shows-off-his-out-of-this-world-daily-intake/news-story/db8eaa04f4517c8c1add1ca207ca5a76
30:09 <Halcyon> He looks fucking awful
30:51 <K> eew.
31:34 <Halcyon> Imagine when he is older, he will be so flabby and loose. I honestly don't find that kind of thing attractive in the slightest. I will take a dad bod over that any day.
40:26 * hsn checks around .. no armpera exist to share instagram link
40:29 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CHrp5I_pQys/?igshid=1vl96d3zu32bv
42:18 <Halcyon> Random
42:33 <hsn> hsnsRandomShit
42:54 <Ysjoelfir> lol. I think its cute
45:53 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, and maybe tvs?
46:03 <hsn> gdt and tvs , gdt and mov and tvs ?
47:36 <Ysjoelfir> sure, those are a thing as well
51:48 <Halcyon> I should go to bed
53:03 <Ysjoelfir> no, you should stay with us
55:07 <K> forever!
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58:48 <hsn> Halcyon, if god converted me to a lightening strike and gave me well to choose my next attack i will attack ur bed so stay away ..
04:03 <K> eh?
04:21 <Halcyon> My bed isn't very well grounded
04:24 <Halcyon> It's wood
09:21 <hsn> i can find my way as lightening strike
09:46 <Ysjoelfir> so you strike his errected antenna while he's in bed?
12:36 <hsn> no Ysjoelfir its i follow least impedance not least resistance :D
12:47 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
13:14 <Halcyon> You guys are terrible :P
13:17 <Halcyon> Goodnight
13:20 <hsn> gn
13:27 <Ysjoelfir> gn8^^
27:49 <hsn> Ysjoelfir,
27:55 <Ysjoelfir> yes
28:02 <Ysjoelfir> hurry up, I'm going home now :P
28:05 <hsn> if a tvs/mov failed short ..
28:09 <Ysjoelfir> yes
28:10 <rust_collector> good night
28:16 <hsn> it can cause fire if u dont have fuse
28:16 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
28:19 <Ysjoelfir> yes
28:27 <hsn> but if u have fuse that surge will kick the fuse ass ?
28:36 <hsn> even if it didnt fail the mov, tvs
29:19 <hsn> for example 30A attacking a MOV for few micro second can burn the fuse ? .. but not the MOV ? ..
29:53 <hsn> mr rust salut
30:34 <K> prollydepends on fuse type
31:08 <K> for some reason i think movs require use of slow fuses
31:41 <hsn> K, so meaning , the fuse selection here is critical .. if u dont want to send some maintanance every strike happens .. to replace a stupid fuse
33:12 <K> yea
39:08 <Ysjoelfir> yes, it can. and you would use a resistor before the mov, usually, to limit the surge current. but yes. so. I'm off for home office. later :)
39:49 <rust_collector> off for home office...
47:25 <hsn> spit spater ..
47:31 <hsn> i forgot
47:39 <rust_collector> too late
48:03 <hsn> bis spater
48:13 <hsn> nothing is late for me rust_collector
48:33 <hsn> also .. the owner want me to go to him at some time ... idk why i should go or what to talk
49:01 <rust_collector> ok, what are you talking about?
49:34 <hsn> rust_collector, yesterday the company owner saw me
49:34 <K> to where? to his house?
49:50 <rust_collector> owner of?
49:54 <rust_collector> oh
49:54 <hsn> and said .. hoi i didnt see u long time .. come at some time lets chat etc etc..
50:17 <rust_collector> ok
50:32 <hsn> K, no .. to his room .. usually if he want to meet me he want me to snitch on my boss xD .. i guess but not sure
50:57 <hsn> no .. he just wants to hear .. from me .. like anything related to work
51:27 <K> oh.
53:02 <rust_collector> make it a lunch meeting, so you at least get something to eat
55:28 <hsn> i dont launch
56:01 <rust_collector> launch meeting lunch meeting... close enough
56:03 <hsn> im thinking to tell him last few months i stopped working and start chatting on IRC
56:04 <hsn> xD
57:51 <K> westerner influence!
59:00 <hsn> well .. idk and i dnt like this feeling of me going to him to either snitch or bullshit
12:43 <rust_collector> well, maybe not say you have quit doing anything, but tell him there has been less useful things to do lately?
17:13 * rust_collector is cooking pasta tube things
36:19 <hsn> rust_collector, i keep telling them to hire someone so i set on my chair and give orders
36:33 <hsn> and i promise them that im busy for next 2 years
36:35 <hsn> allready
36:57 <hsn> it wont make sense to tell him less useful thingy are there xD
37:41 * T3sl4 elbows rust_collector
38:05 * rust_collector is used to that, and ignores it
39:00 <rust_collector> ok, tell him you are overworked, and need a vacation at the companys resort in the alps?
43:35 <hsn> rust_collector, yeeeeh now we talking
45:33 <K> and some bing for your canmel
45:39 <K> bling for camel
47:03 <hsn> my bmw ?
47:06 <hsn> is my camel
47:16 <hsn> ylaaa habibi
48:19 <T3sl4> mmmm, caramel
48:27 <hsn> K, https://snipboard.io/GNuc8g.jpg
49:53 <K> crap no good
50:28 <K> use of "0x2" is confusing, i would use some constant or somthing like that
51:04 <hsn> im full of constants ... but yeah i got u
51:27 <hsn> the thing is full of these : typedef enum{
51:27 <hsn> fillingstate_none=0,
51:28 <hsn> fillingstate_filling1=1,
51:28 <hsn> fillingstate_filling1_done=2,
51:28 <hsn> fillingstate_filling2=4,
51:28 <hsn> fillingstate_filling2_done=8
51:30 <hsn> }filling_state;
52:35 <hsn> i think i might make 0x2 to 2 .. it makes sense .. without constant
52:50 <hsn> dealing with it as counter ..
53:03 <rust_collector> hsn, I think you should consider writing that thing in basic
53:27 <hsn> ew basic .. idk that
53:40 <hsn> i barely stand c .. :D
53:49 <hsn> which is sexy language tbh
53:52 <T3sl4> BASIC is more basic, as its name implies
55:17 <K> i would name constants with uppercase letters, more readable because does not mix up with variable names
55:29 <K> cosntants/enum members
56:33 <T3sl4> const HSN_IS_A_SILLY_BOY = 1;
56:56 <T3sl4> if (hsnMentalState == HSN_IS_A_SILLY_BOY) {printf("lul\n")}
57:37 <K> looks like lua
58:17 <T3sl4> is lua also in the c-style braces family?
58:21 <T3sl4> i never used it
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