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00:00:23 <hsn> T3sl4, lol
00:01:14 <hsn> is lua just C with different lexer ? :P
00:01:42 <T3sl4> no
00:02:42 <hsn> https://www.lua.org/manual/5.4/manual.html#4.4
00:02:44 <K> nope, not lua then
00:09:27 <hsn> T3sl4, and K, yeah .. enum in C is annoying though .. i've to prefix the constants with enum name .. also related to "capital" i know its the de facto standard or guide to do it .. however i've question ..
00:10:35 <hsn> why experts like FreeRTOS devs use small leters https://snipboard.io/EK8JiH.jpg
00:10:58 <hsn> which is "nice" + "readable for multiWordVariables"
00:11:39 <rust_collector> small letters in the comments? probably because he is lazy?
00:11:57 <hsn> no .. the blue
00:12:36 <rust_collector> mmh. why not?
00:13:15 <K> depends on convention in code
00:13:36 <K> camelCaseNaming vs snake_case_naming
00:13:41 <K> i tend to use camel case more
00:14:34 <rust_collector> I use BADGERBOX
00:14:40 <K> wait, what do you mean by "small letters" ?
00:20:37 <hsn> K, yes but since im using FreeRTOS should i follow their convection
00:20:49 <K> yes
00:20:51 <hsn> or my application should be dependent/independent
00:20:56 <hsn> of their thing
00:21:20 <K> i would use the style used in framework
00:21:20 <hsn> independent of their convection
00:21:36 <hsn> K, so u change on every project ?
00:21:37 <hsn> :D
00:21:49 <hsn> if u use different framework ofc
00:22:43 <K> no that many projects for me, but yea, i adapt
00:23:07 <K> saves me the urge to "fix the ugly"
00:23:48 <Ysjoelfir> I hate it when people name variables like this_is_a_variable_for_this_and_that_purpose
00:24:11 <Ysjoelfir> I more prefer VarPurpAbbrev
00:25:12 <K> i hate abbrevs, they get out of hand easily
00:25:29 <K> in one place you shorten this way, in some other - that way
00:25:33 <K> breaks the flow
00:26:09 <Ysjoelfir> wel, yes, but I also hate it when vars are like 500 symbols long
00:26:38 <K> i take those as a hint for restructuring
00:26:55 <K> or maybe variable names does not have to be that long
00:28:22 <rust_collector> I just do not use variables
00:28:28 <rust_collector> EZ!
00:29:31 <K> yeah!
00:29:36 <K> no code - no bugs!
00:30:40 <Ysjoelfir> One example would be... like... if I want to do something with Impedances I would call the variable like Z and add stuff when needed, like... ZCalc or ZPreFilter. I would prefer that over Impedance_before_filtering and Calculated_Impedance. I try to make vars that are... together in some functional group to be named simmilarely at the beginning so that I can start typing and then see all vars that are somehow belonging to what I'm
00:30:40 <Ysjoelfir> with
00:31:04 <K> Z is fine
00:31:17 <K> calculatedZ
00:31:40 <K> unfilteredZ
00:32:39 <K> but physical units in variable names can get tricky, yes
00:33:07 <K> and symbols
00:35:57 <Ysjoelfir> I think its even easyer with physical stuff, as its pretty.. descriptive. It gets.... hard when you go to stuff like buffers and memories and temporary variables and whatnot. I ended up once having something like FifoBufMemTemp2 or whatever, and that gets very nondescriptive extremely fast
00:36:29 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, my array variables are BigZimmer[length]
00:36:46 <hsn> groBZimmer[length] better
00:36:47 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds reasonable
00:37:09 <Ysjoelfir> I would never use äöüß in vars :D
00:37:26 <Ysjoelfir> as well as æ, ø and å
00:37:28 <hsn> would u like to call ur variable gross ?
00:37:41 <Ysjoelfir> or ™
00:37:51 <hsn> tim
00:37:59 <Ysjoelfir> depends. but I would call my vars always in english
00:40:06 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, can u imagine .. when i login to govt website .. i can see javascript codes comment in korean ?
00:40:07 <hsn> :D
00:41:03 <hsn> rust_collector, before u start ur ddos u should know we have korean tech baby
00:41:52 <Ysjoelfir> lol
00:42:52 <hsn> https://www.sijilat.bh/js/blisUtil.js?v=4
00:42:52 * Ampera wakes up
00:43:00 <Ampera> good morning people
00:43:08 <Ampera> and those of you which are inanimate
00:43:19 <Ysjoelfir> hi Ampera
00:43:37 <rust_collector> hsn, thanks, You people should relally not have those passwords in plain text like that
00:43:56 * rust_collector squishes Ampera
00:44:07 <hsn> rust_collector, which pass ?
00:44:09 * Ampera leaks puss all over rust_collector
00:44:15 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir how are you doing
00:45:06 <Ysjoelfir> quite... ok-ish. you?
00:45:23 <hsn> rust_collector, the security of this web is shit .. i wrote a crawler and did more than 100k row stole of companies info in bahrain .. for education purposes ofc
00:45:29 <Ampera> my throat is parched like a desert, but I'm too lazy to get up and grab a drink
00:45:35 <Ampera> the woes of being apathetic
00:45:53 <hsn> Ampera, gm
00:47:59 <rust_collector> ok, time to go. I have a boat engine to remove before work... have fun
00:48:32 <Ampera> good morning hsn, how are you
00:48:49 <hsn> im good if u r good Ampera
00:48:56 <Ampera> sorry to hear that, hsn
00:48:57 <hsn> except the desert part
00:49:12 <hsn> no worries mate
00:49:58 <hsn> Happy Birthday Corona🦠💃
00:49:58 <hsn> ULL NAME: COVID 19.
00:49:58 <hsn> SINCE: 17/11/2019
00:49:58 <hsn> Born in China
00:49:58 <hsn> 😍 Celebrating 1 Year Of Corona
00:50:29 <hsn> 1 year allready
00:50:43 <rust_collector> time flies when you are having fun
00:52:28 <Ampera> Maybe we should give the Chinese government a birthday gift for their little kid here
00:52:30 <Ampera> I suggest the bill
00:52:33 <Ampera> and responsibility
00:57:48 <Ampera> You know, Linux is great and all, but do you know what I love about Windows Server? Its 2 active RDP connection limit without purchasing expensive CALs
00:58:08 <Ampera> So if two people are using the server at once, and I need to pop in, I'm just gonna have to wait.
00:58:25 <hsn> <3 windows
00:58:35 <Ampera> Windows just sucks across the board
00:58:37 <hsn> it has 4 windows 2 broken allready?
00:58:57 <Ampera> I consider it to be the weenie hut jr. OS for people who can't be fucked to learn something actually useful
00:59:40 <hsn> Ampera, but the world eco system is built over windows not linux
00:59:54 <Ampera> since when?
01:00:00 <hsn> 1982
01:00:02 <Ampera> Linux runs on more computers than anything else in the world
01:00:45 <hsn> thats true .. but the common softwares in each industry is built for windows
01:01:09 <hsn> wait .. thats not fully true ..
01:01:22 <hsn> for engineering cad softwares for example ..
01:01:29 <T3sl4> https://gfycat.com/MassiveSlimyConure
01:02:07 <hsn> smoof
01:02:13 <Ampera> That doesn't make Windows better, that just means people use it
01:03:10 <hsn> Ampera, imagine someone design new OS that is better than all existing OS allready .. but there is no software support for it
01:03:17 <hsn> it would be useless .. dont u think ?
01:03:33 <Ampera> Of course, but Linux /does/ have software support
01:03:39 <hsn> despite thats its better designed .. etc etc ..
01:03:41 <Ampera> quite significant, with tools that Windows barely has or doesn't have at all.
01:04:41 <hsn> Ampera, i think windows wins engineering CAD stuff and games
01:04:55 <Ampera> CAD no doubt, Linux is shit for CAD unfortunately.
01:05:13 <Ampera> Games I disagree with, Linux runs a good chunk of the Windows gaming library, and often better than Windows does itself.
01:05:28 <hsn> with wine ?
01:05:33 <Ampera> and honestly, Wine has better backwards compatibility out of the box for old Windows software
01:05:39 <Ampera> or Proton, which is just modded Wine
01:05:46 <hsn> i dont drink Ampera
01:06:06 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/yImXtj.jpg I HATE people that are to stupid to use proper units ._. I'm sure there aren't 2 gravities of carbs in there, and probably roughly one thousand times as many calories as its written there ._.
01:06:34 <Ampera> hsn, neither do I, alcohol is a sin
01:07:38 <hsn> Ampera, back to serious ,, i tested windows games on linux using wine but that was long time maybe 2010 or somthing .. it was buggy .. or at least i didnt know how to run them properly
01:08:02 <Ampera> that's because between 2010 and now there have been astronomical leaps in game compatibility
01:08:18 <Ampera> Proton now runs over half of the Windows titles currently popular on Steam
01:08:32 <Ampera> https://www.protondb.com/
01:08:55 <Ampera> With this site keeping an inventory of said popular games and how they run, and if any workarounds are needed for those which don't
01:09:55 <hsn> i just searched league of legends in that
01:10:12 <hsn> but ppl say "Lutris"
01:10:19 <Ampera> Steam games
01:10:36 <Ampera> and honestly, for LoL, I should embolden games, as I'm not sure I'd consider that a game
01:10:41 <Ampera> more of a twathive
01:11:42 <hsn> https://www.protondb.com/app/1172470
01:17:44 <Ampera> Indeed, not all games work, but the point is that many do. For me, I'd rather have a decent everything else, than a few games I don't care about anyways
01:20:10 <hsn> Ampera, i just brought gaming and CAD .. but im sure other stuff exist ..
01:20:30 <hsn> im not saying this is flaw of linux .. but thats how it is ..
01:20:31 <Ampera> There have been very few instances that I wanted Windows, and none that ever made me put it on my computer.
01:20:54 <Ampera> and ultimately I don't care what you use, I'm just being dumb because I'm bored
01:21:11 <K> ur dumb haha
01:21:23 * hsn dumbCache's ampera
01:22:00 <Ampera> I may be dumb, but I'm also stupid.
01:22:26 <hsn> Ampera, it doesnt matter if u made peace with ur self ..
01:22:28 <hsn> like i did :P
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01:41:17 <Ysjoelfir> Just remembered that. Still kind of.... cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhlUVyDBusg
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03:27:34 <hsn> T3sl4: i found a good video https://youtu.be/wrwgIjBUYVc
03:31:17 <T3sl4> yeah
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03:37:23 <coppice> He sounds like a native English speaker, yet confuses time with Japanese fried food
03:38:19 <T3sl4> mmm, apple tempura
03:41:37 <arch> does someone know what connector the male header is? https://www.ebay.com/itm/25cm-8-bit-lvds-cable-fix-30-pin-2ch-for-17-26inch-lcd-led-panel-controll-Y-sh/313275044950
03:41:44 <arch> the flat connector
03:42:52 <coppice> T3sl4: you mean iTempura?
03:43:09 <T3sl4> yes, fried iBalls sound delicious
03:43:11 <arch> yours, for only $199.99
03:43:25 <coppice> T3sl4: I think we are just frittering our time away
03:43:39 <T3sl4> i donut believe it
03:44:28 <T3sl4> arch: JAE FI-S?
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03:47:43 <arch> naw, thats now it
03:47:46 <arch> not*
03:49:42 <T3sl4> oh wait
03:49:57 <T3sl4> Well-Lin 1058-SMTR?
03:50:29 <coppice> Well-Lin have great connections
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03:51:46 <arch> Fix-30P-D6 is what it says
03:52:28 <arch> oh yea, that looks like it T3sl4
03:52:37 <T3sl4> coppice: do they? i've found very little information on them in english at least
03:52:43 <arch> it
03:52:46 <arch> it's def 1mm pitch
03:54:00 <arch> now i just need to find a compatible connector so i can order off digikey instead of waiting 2 months for a ship from china
03:54:01 <T3sl4> i have one with a "WL" etched on it, maybe "Fix" is a clone
03:54:16 <coppice> T3sl4: I assume it was an English speaker who came up with "well in" as a name for a connections business
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03:56:00 <T3sl4> their translator would seem to be more clever, or less ironic, than whoever came up with the -fire brands of batteries
03:57:06 <coppice> T3sl4: that fire thing comes from literal translation. The chinese for a power supply literally means a "fire cow"
03:57:13 <arch> lol
03:57:16 <T3sl4> nice
03:57:28 <arch> i would have expected a firebreathing dragon, but never a cow
03:57:42 <T3sl4> well, you milk a cow, you wire a power supply
03:58:18 <T3sl4> we have "pig iron" named in the same way
03:59:54 <coppice> I guess the cow part maybe comes from cows being the traditional ploughing animals, and therefore the source of non-human power. I have no idea about the fire part. fire cow sounds much more like an ICE
04:01:30 <T3sl4> it's no accident we have "pony" motors
04:01:43 <T3sl4> which, if you used one to mix bread, you'd have to pony up the dough
04:05:07 <coppice> the origin of the term pony motor is obvious
04:05:40 <coppice> although you probably wouldn't guess what a pony motor is from its name alone
04:06:39 <arch> how are ya supposed to pronounce Hirose? Hi-Rose? or Hi-Ro-Se?
04:07:33 <coppice> I think its the latter
04:08:14 <T3sl4> sé, even
04:09:34 <coppice> yeah, that e at the end of a lot of Romanji is pronounced like that
04:09:39 <arch> look at you mr fancypants, with your accented e
04:10:10 <arch> https://hg1.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Senor+spidey+just+made+this_4a1565_4109919.jpg
04:10:58 <arch> i found the male header for that lvds conn: http://img.everychina.com/nimg/cd/10/d45d6e871460e620f02827c49658.jpg
04:11:09 <arch> but i need the female one
04:12:28 <arch> aha it's the FI-X series
04:12:34 <arch> http://www.wire-to-boardconnector.com/sale-7479380-fi-x-series-nylon-46-ul94v-0-beige-1-0mm-30-pin-lvds-connectors-for-thin-lcd-interface.html
04:14:19 <arch> are you fucking kidding me...$12 a pop? https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/jae-electronics/FI-X30SSLA-HF-R2500/3674235
04:14:27 <arch> im ordering from china
04:14:43 <arch> this is plain fucking ridiculous. american companies need to go bankrupt cuz of this fucking price gouging
04:14:53 <arch> well, japanese in this case
04:24:29 <arch> https://www.ebay.com/itm/5PCS-FI-X30SSL-HF-R2500-FI-X30SSLA-HF-E2500-JAE-Connector/323348852006
04:24:35 <arch> reasonably priced
04:25:36 <arch> it's obsolete, but the technical drawing shows basically the same shit. so THIS is how these bastards take advantage of people huh
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04:29:23 <arch> i've noticed asshole manufacturers take off datasheets just because their switching IC got "obsoleted"
04:29:44 <arch> bless archive.org and octopart and all the numerous datasheet websites though
04:48:50 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: you know how very rarely, your laser shots hit enemy laser shots? i just fired a burst laser 2 at an enemy with same, at the exact same time, and all three shots annihilated. no shots flew anywhere.
04:49:44 <Ysjoelfir> I never had lasers hitting each other yet :D that sounds very rare indeed
04:50:02 <T3sl4> huh, you've played very little indeed i guess
04:50:51 <T3sl4> oh, only 16hr, yeah i guess so :P
04:51:32 <Ysjoelfir> lol, remember when I bought it :P
04:52:01 <Ysjoelfir> but: yesterday I unlocked the... felis? big ship thing.
04:52:13 <Ysjoelfir> going to try that thing this evening
04:52:28 <arch> T3sl4, what game are you talking about?
04:52:33 <T3sl4> FTL
04:52:47 <coppice> Fatter Than Lard
04:52:55 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
04:52:57 <T3sl4> tho idunno how much pre-Steam time you have, but it sounds like not much still :P
04:53:24 <Ysjoelfir> nope, basically none. I played it for like 30 mins, got frustrated and stopped :P back then in... 2014 or whatever that was
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05:57:25 <hsn> Hey rust_collector
05:58:10 <hsn> Wtf is this incentric usefull
05:58:39 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/sN9hfpr7Htr7ZvpS6
05:59:00 <Ysjoelfir> eh? rusticles is here? where? :D
06:01:02 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
06:29:27 <hsn> I dnt like it a lot .. but maybe because the profile is little dirty
06:31:13 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/SnPzzHSXPKWNCBNf9
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07:35:55 <hsn> Wtf is this https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTZCwtlgna/?igshid=u3mylih46dlo
07:42:09 <Ysjoelfir> there are µUSB things with HDMI compatibility, but i think its not a standard
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08:45:07 <Nothing\> yay it's snowing
08:45:11 <Nothing\> or so i say now
08:45:16 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera
08:45:21 <Nothing\> a bit late, i know
08:45:34 * Ampera lobs fried chicken at Nothing\
08:45:38 <Nothing\> man, i wanna get a glass syringe now
08:45:59 <Ampera> I've never used a glass syringe
08:46:03 <Ampera> but glass pipettes
08:46:05 <Ampera> those things suck
08:46:13 <Nothing\> apparently the plunger can be spun inside of the other part, not sure what it's called
08:46:50 <Nothing\> and the tolerances are so perfect that there's just a microns thick cushion of air the plunger spins on
08:47:28 <Nothing\> and yet somehow they get them perfectly water tight, which i forget how that works
08:47:50 <Nothing\> steve mould made a video about the effect but i just find the idea of glass syringes interesting
08:49:04 <Nothing\> wow
08:49:14 <Nothing\> you can even buy actual needles for them, too
08:49:30 <Nothing\> the ones he had were like oral syringes, so that's what i assumed i'd find
08:49:49 <Nothing\> but these all have metal tips for screwing a needle onto
08:50:16 <Nothing\> then again, i guess sharps aren't illegal here
08:51:23 <Nothing\> you can go to the needle exchange and get a box of 20 needles, alcohol wipes, vitamin c, spoons, cotton balls, sterile swabs, tourniquets and anything else they might use absolutely free
08:51:33 <Nothing\> they'll even come deliver it to your house for you
08:52:13 <Nothing\> some cities even have sites where junkies can go and safely inject their drugs in a medical setting under the supervision of nurses
08:52:18 * T3sl4 brews up a TTL chip for steve30
08:53:18 <Nothing\> but people are all against those types of places cuz they think it encourages drug use. But if you're at the point of using needles, you probably get enough encouragement from waking up in withdawal every day.
08:53:51 <Nothing\> glad i never got to the that point. Thank the Lord.
08:54:48 <Nothing\> at least it's not krokodil
08:55:30 <Nothing\> part of me can't believe people still shoot that shit after their limbs literally rot down to the bone.
08:56:56 <Nothing\> i remember this video and this guy's leg bones were completely exposed. The doctor was tapping on his shin bone with a pen or something. It was one of those super messed up things you simply can't unsee.
08:57:41 <Nothing\> it hurts to know such suffering exists in the world.
08:59:08 <Nothing\> oh Ampera
08:59:22 <Nothing\> that glass pipette you mentioned reminded me of a funny story from highschool
08:59:33 <Nothing\> you know those glass stirring rods, right?
09:00:01 <Ampera> yeah
09:00:10 <Nothing\> we were using those for something and my science teacher was explaining how the rods were made of special "candy glass" that isn't able to cut you
09:00:26 <Ampera> moron
09:00:45 <Nothing\> so i broke one over my leg and proceeded to stab myself in the middle of the palm of my hand, maybe no more than 1cm deep
09:01:02 <Nothing\> but it was pouring blood everywhere. Especially the floor.
09:01:19 <Ampera> and that is why that teacher was a moron
09:01:34 <Nothing\> I went up to him I'm like "uhh mr parsons, I don't think you were right about that candy glass" and showed him my hand"
09:01:48 <Nothing\> he just told me to go to the washroom and clean myself up
09:01:54 <Ampera> nice
09:02:06 <Nothing\> so i did, leaving a trail of blood the entire way
09:02:40 <Nothing\> just washed the blood off as muhc as i could, but it wouldn't stop bleeding, so i wrapped it in toilet paper and went back to class
09:03:06 <Nothing\> i still have this crescent shaped scar on my hand from it to this day
09:03:36 <Nothing\> i'm lucky i never hit a never or anything with all the times i've been stabbed
09:03:41 <Ampera> I'm not sure who is the bigger idiot, the teacher for telling a room full of highschool students that glass can't cut you, or you for trying it out
09:03:44 <Nothing\> or a tendon
09:04:49 <Nothing\> Ampera, a bit of both. But truth be told, I was really into the self harm type of behavior at the time. So I was just the sort who would try it out
09:04:59 <Ampera> probably the teacher for telling you to just go and wash it off
09:05:20 <Nothing\> i've always treated my body more like an object than how others would treat their bodies
09:05:26 <Nothing\> to an extent
09:05:42 <Nothing\> but not so much anymore since i don't like pain and/or suffering
09:06:15 <Nothing\> but even going back to grade 5 i used to amuse my classmates by running full tilt, head first into the portables
09:06:33 <Nothing\> which i'm not sure if you guys had a different name for them
09:06:37 <Nothing\> or even had them
09:06:44 <Ampera> portable what
09:06:47 <Ampera> toilets?
09:06:54 <Nothing\> it's just called a portable
09:07:02 <Ampera> what is just called a portable
09:07:10 <Nothing\> it's like a single classroom built separate from the school
09:07:20 <Nothing\> to accomadate more kids
09:07:22 <Ampera> how the hell am I supposed to know
09:07:25 <Ampera> I never went to school
09:07:29 <Nothing\> really?
09:07:33 <Ampera> Yes
09:07:56 <Nothing\> i dropped out in grade 9 as soon as i could. But before it was legal.
09:08:44 <Nothing\> basically once i was too big for my mom to do anything about me refusing to go. Which I'd been doing since at least grade 3
09:10:09 <Ampera> my mom encouraged my not going to school
09:10:15 <Ampera> she never sent me
09:10:30 <Ampera> she was perhaps most instrumental in my having never gone
09:10:39 <Nothing\> here Ampera
09:10:41 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_classroom#/media/File:Portable_classroom.JPG
09:10:54 <Nothing\> that's a portable
09:11:00 <Nothing\> and no, there are no bathrooms in them
09:11:05 <Nothing\> i was in one for grade 4 and 5
09:11:36 <Nothing\> so in the middle of winter you had to bundle up, go outside and walk into the main school just to take a leak
09:12:04 <Nothing\> man, and we had these weird sinks
09:12:42 <Nothing\> it was like a big half circle shape, big enough for maybe 4 or 5 people to stand around
09:13:08 <Nothing\> and it had a bar underneath it that you stepped on to turn on the water
09:13:43 <Nothing\> and it's spray out of this bit that was the same half circle shape, but had holes for the water to stream out of
09:14:28 <Nothing\> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/82/d5/7b82d56384e4046a670c246fe7a947de.jpg
09:14:42 <Nothing\> exactly like that. those are the exact same sinks we used.
09:14:49 <rust_collector> demand that they ship it on...a ship?
09:14:49 <Ampera> rust_collector, no the 3 weeks was to get up from Long Island to where I live
09:14:49 <Ampera> I could have walked there and back in less time
09:14:49 <rust_collector> yes, but if they send it across the equator on a boat, it will also be late
09:14:49 <rust_collector> it will be fine after a month. just keep ordering every week.
09:14:49 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, have you tried to slowly speed up the videos, to see how fast you can go, at the end of the evening, without her noticing?
09:14:49 <Ysjoelfir> xD that is a nice idea. I'll try :P
09:14:49 <Ampera> rust_collector, the thing is that this shipment was coming from the US
09:14:49 <Ampera> from an Amazon warehouse
09:14:49 <rust_collector> so?
09:14:49 <Ampera> it wasn't an import
09:14:49 <Ysjoelfir> I have to admit though, that those movies are actually not THAT bad as I thought. they are actually very nicely made (for the time) and fun
09:14:49 <rust_collector> you do have water around most of the us of a
09:14:49 <Ampera> yes but no part of the US is on the equator, that I'm aware of
09:14:49 <rust_collector> old films are usually well made, imo
09:14:49 <Ampera> or even south of the equator
09:14:49 <rust_collector> nope, but the same water goes there. it is no problem sending a boat across it
09:14:49 <Ampera> rust_collector, you are weird
09:14:49 <rust_collector> well....
09:14:49 <rust_collector> it would be annoying if you got to the equator, and you crashed into a big screen
09:14:49 <rust_collector> and behind that screen, you have scaffolding, rgb leds and cats running all the things
09:14:49 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGsRJhoF5yY
09:14:59 <Nothing\> except ours were all grimy and disgusting
09:15:16 <Ampera> you're grimy and disgusting
09:15:38 <Nothing\> prolly cuz i haven't bathed since july
09:15:48 <Ampera> just july?
09:15:49 <Nothing\> and before that, december
09:15:49 <Ampera> weak
09:16:20 <Nothing\> no wait, i just showered a few weeks ago too
09:16:31 <Nothing\> cuz i have to shower whenever i cut my hair now
09:16:48 <Ampera> I just don't cut my hair
09:17:05 <Nothing\> i keep mine shaved to like 1/4in
09:17:24 <Nothing\> bought a $40 pair of clippers and just do it myself
09:17:39 <Nothing\> get my mom to get any spots i missed
09:17:40 <Ampera> My hair is down to my shoulders by now
09:17:43 <Ampera> but just
09:18:03 <Nothing\> i tried growing it out once, but it's just too much of a pain
09:18:29 <Nothing\> it's uncomfortable constantly feeling my hair. and takes so much longer to wash and drop
09:18:37 <Nothing\> *dry
09:19:08 <Ampera> I don't remember the last time I cleaned myself
09:20:31 <coppice> Ampera: that's what rain is for
09:21:08 <Ampera> coppice, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63XTNQ1e4X8
09:22:11 <coppice> Ampera: its in stereo!
09:22:55 <Ampera> Unfortunately they didn't release that song in quad so you'll just have to suffer with stereo
09:23:18 <coppice> I assume that was an early 60s record. Most things were still in mono then
09:23:35 <Ampera> 1966
09:24:07 <coppice> oh, that's about the transition point where stereo starting becoming the norm
09:24:23 <Ampera> when did stereo records start to become a thing
09:24:26 <Ampera> presumably around then?
09:24:41 <coppice> I remember then record sleeves said STEREO in huge letters, because it was a novelty
09:25:16 <coppice> The word stereo was often in bigger letters than the artist or the record's name
09:25:19 <Nothing\> ffs
09:25:24 <Nothing\> fucking roms sites
09:25:35 <Ampera> ROM sites still exist?
09:25:44 <Ampera> I thought most of them got DMCA'd out of existence by now
09:25:50 <Nothing\> "here's your ROM "romname.exe""
09:26:00 <Nothing\> some still exist
09:26:03 <Nothing\> but a lot are that
09:26:16 <Nothing\> i'm just trying to find one specific n64 ROM
09:26:21 <Nothing\> or maybe 3
09:26:55 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, maybe try to talk faster, and walk quickly when you go to get snacks and such
09:27:06 <Ysjoelfir> XD
09:27:34 <rust_collector> I think, if you do this for a week, you can squeeze in 2 extra films on next sunday
09:27:35 <Nothing\> guess i'll just get a torrent of a full pack of roms and go through the metadata to only download the one i want
09:28:31 <Nothing\> there was a blues brothers n64 game... wtf
09:28:39 <Nothing\> how would that even play?
09:29:17 <Nothing\> probably like a shitty 1st gen 3D game that wasn't very well thought out as 99% of them were back then
09:31:35 <Ysjoelfir> probably :D but.. do I want that? I usually am not a movie fan
09:32:11 <rust_collector> well, you get time to run and get loads of snacks...
09:32:16 <Lord_of_nothing> thanks to my gov. we have a total lockdown
09:32:17 <Nothing\> ffs the games i wanted aren't in here
09:32:25 <Nothing\> full pack my aunt anus
09:32:30 <Lord_of_nothing> like in the nazi regime you need a permission to be on the street
09:33:01 <rust_collector> meh, it is not because of your government. if you people would stop getting sick, it would not be an issue
09:33:19 <Lord_of_nothing> to be sick is not a problem
09:33:41 <rust_collector> ok then
09:33:50 <Lord_of_nothing> its not that the people play russian roulette and the gov take them the weapon away and nobody will die anymore
09:34:06 <Ampera> Nothing\, do you live near Toronto or Quebec?
09:34:08 <Ampera> I forget which
09:34:12 <Ampera> or Montreal either
09:34:19 <Nothing\> toronto
09:34:24 <Ampera> ah
09:34:25 <Nothing\> about an hour southwest of it
09:34:43 <Nothing\> between toronto and London
09:34:56 <Lord_of_nothing> well many people could choos between die from (a)/ the virus or die reladet to the medicine to receive
09:35:04 <Ampera> Well I'm between Toronto and London too :P
09:35:44 <Ampera> Toronto is also between me and London, and London is also between me and Toronto
09:35:47 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, be careful, we don't allow incorrect beliefs here, if you keep having unstately views you're going to be censored for the good of the people
09:36:08 <Nothing\> heh there's a city here called london
09:36:14 <Lord_of_nothing> well who brings jesus into play?
09:36:18 <Nothing\> the main river is even called the Thames
09:36:25 <Lord_of_nothing> everyone is free to belive what ever the think is right
09:36:45 <Ampera> Probably has a larger population than the City of London.
09:36:53 <Nothing\> they were gonna make that the capital of ontario, but for some reason Toronto (York at the time) got it
09:36:59 <rust_collector> what does that have to do with anything?
09:37:04 <Nothing\> i wonder if it does
09:37:11 <Ampera> No, people need to forced to believe what is right, people shouldn't be having these sorts of dangerous thoughts
09:37:13 <Nothing\> i think ours is around 500k
09:37:40 <Nothing\> city of london can't have THAT many people squeezed into such a small space that i think is mostly commercial anyways, isn't it?
09:37:42 <Ampera> It's larger by around 370,000 people
09:37:44 <Lord_of_nothing> you think people should not have there free will?
09:37:52 <Ampera> City of London is 9000 people-ish
09:38:03 <Nothing\> 9000 that's it?
09:38:06 <Ampera> that's it
09:38:14 <Nothing\> i woulda figured at least a few tens of thousands
09:38:20 <Ampera> No, free will is dangerous
09:38:36 <coppice> I think the City of London only has a population of about 10k
09:38:44 <Ampera> We would all be much safer if we made it illegal to think wrongly
09:38:51 <Ampera> coppice, I just said that
09:38:56 <coppice> I'm agreeing
09:38:58 <Nothing\> that's cool that we all know what the city of london is though
09:39:02 <rust_collector> it would
09:39:06 <Ampera> ok, you have a strange way of agreeing
09:39:08 <Nothing\> it's fun to screw with people who aren't familiar with it
09:39:19 <Ampera> who the hell doesn't know about the city of london?
09:39:30 <Ampera> it's a particularly well known city
09:39:46 <Nothing\> i didn't until i watched a documentary about it hosted by the greatest brit even, Stephen Fry
09:40:00 <Nothing\> or at least the most pleasant brit to listen to narrating something
09:40:09 <coppice> during the day there are hundreds of thousands of people in the city, but it has a really low residential population
09:40:30 <Nothing\> coppice, like i said, it's mostly commercial, i believe.
09:40:34 <Lord_of_nothing> sure we sould have some chips in your body who help us to have the right mind right?
09:40:38 <Nothing\> so that would explain it
09:40:44 <coppice> Its mostly financial
09:40:48 <Ampera> The COVID lockdowns don't go far enough, we need to start locking people into their houses, people who are leaving them are just being reckless fascists
09:40:53 <Nothing\> ah
09:41:05 <Nothing\> and political too, i would imagine
09:41:06 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, you don't need chips, I'm not talking about controlling people
09:41:20 <Nothing\> all of the buildings to administrate the city of london
09:41:23 <coppice> There was a lot of commercial activity there when I was a kid, but its so expensive a lot of it moved out
09:41:26 <Ysjoelfir> free will? ewwww
09:41:27 <Ampera> I'm just saying people shouldn't be allowed to have a bad opinion
09:41:28 <rust_collector> china did ok, welding peoples doors shut
09:41:33 <Ampera> ^
09:41:37 <Lord_of_nothing> sure and the vacine solve all problems?
09:41:43 <Ampera> it's the sorta stuff we need to start doing
09:41:43 <Nothing\> i heard the area south of it is a dump
09:41:46 <Nothing\> across the river
09:41:52 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, of course not, we haven't forcibly vaccinated everyone yet
09:42:03 <coppice> even a lot of financial activity has moved out. Things like insurance companies no longer have the bulk of their activities there
09:42:08 <rust_collector> I do not think anyone here even mentioned vaccine?
09:42:13 <Ysjoelfir> I kinda agree. at least if people don't start to finally use their heads ^^
09:42:16 <Ampera> rust_collector, Lord_of_nothing did, just now
09:42:26 <coppice> the City of London is a dump
09:42:28 <Nothing\> probably cheaper to have your business HQ elsewhere
09:42:30 <coppice> Ampera: if people can't get out to clean their clothes, they'll all end up as black shirts
09:42:38 <Ampera> coppice, I get the impression the rest of London is one too
09:42:46 <Ysjoelfir> Have some friends in china, and according to them the lockdown time was ahrd, but now they enjoy their freedom (as free as it gets there) even more
09:42:47 <Nothing\> i'd imagine land prices are high in the city of london
09:42:53 <Lord_of_nothing> well the gov will do it very sneaky
09:42:58 <Ampera> coppice, there's nothing wrong with black shirts.
09:43:04 <coppice> They have their HQ in the city. they have the bulk of their employees somewhere else
09:43:11 <Lord_of_nothing> people are permit to travel if the get there facine
09:43:16 <rust_collector> your government will do it very half-assed, I bet
09:43:19 <Lord_of_nothing> the are permit to go to the cinema
09:43:20 <coppice> Ampera: FASCIST..... or its ANTIFA these days
09:43:27 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, I think it's nice that people aren't being allowed to travel right now
09:43:30 <Nothing\> alright! My CD4021 chips are in.
09:43:36 <Ampera> we need to start making it harder for people to move around like they can do now
09:43:38 <Nothing\> PISO shift registers
09:43:48 <Ampera> that way things like nazi ideology and racism can't spread as much
09:43:50 <Lord_of_nothing> well the are not need to get a vacine if the not want but if the dont have to are banned from quite everywhere
09:43:52 <Ampera> which is much worse than any virus
09:43:52 <Lord_of_nothing> so?
09:43:55 <Nothing\> they're what the NES used in their controllers and other peripherals
09:44:19 <Nothing\> so i was thinking one day when i get an NES, maybe i could make my own peripheral for it
09:44:47 <Ampera> I need to get with making my own controller for my phone so I don't have to deal with Razer's bullshit anymore
09:45:10 <Nothing\> i wonder how the SNES's controllers woulda worked
09:45:13 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, of course, China knows what's best, they know so well they even have helpful little numbers to let you know how good of a person you are
09:45:29 <Ampera> Who knows, it's a shame the SNES was never released.
09:45:39 <Ysjoelfir> indeed! :P I hate that stupid social ranking bullshit
09:45:40 <Ampera> I wonder what Nintendo's consoles would have looked like today if they never folded back then
09:45:48 <Nothing\> cuz the NES contorllers used the 4021 cuz it was an 8 bit device and the NES had 8 buttons, 4 for the D-pad, select, start, A, B
09:45:56 <Ysjoelfir> but seriously, I wonder why many people there are like "meh, its fine"
09:46:03 <Ampera> No! Social ranking is good! It allows the better people in society to not have to deal with the undesirables.
09:46:11 <rust_collector> I sort of like some things about china. they just decide they want "yyy" and then they just do "yyy"
09:46:11 <Nothing\> do what now?
09:46:29 <Ampera> That way those people who are better and worth more don't have to suffer with the racist bigots
09:46:38 <coppice> these vaccines are a scam. years of effort has failed to make a working vaccine for any kind of corona virus, and they've suddenly make safe and effective ones for this corona virus in just a few months? yeah, right.
09:46:45 <coppice> I wonder how the Nintendo company is structured, so that it can survive the huge ups and downs of its fortune? I assume all manufacture must be outsourced
09:47:05 <Nothing\> Ampera, i wonder if you could use a USB A to USB C adapter to just plug a gamepad into your phone
09:47:18 <Ampera> why the fuck would I do that
09:47:24 <Ampera> of course you can do it, but why would I do that
09:47:25 <rust_collector> thanks to the donald, you know
09:47:32 <Nothing\> coppice, i know, it seems like every other console they release is a flop
09:47:37 <Nothing\> much as i love them as a company
09:48:02 <Ampera> The switch is a terrible console, in design and execution.
09:48:10 <Ampera> I agree, the vaccine is Trumpist propoganda. I'm thankful that I live under a governor like Cuomo who understands how to keep people healthy, and knows that anything Trump is happy about must be bad
09:48:17 <Ampera> They just ended up discontinuing the DS lineup so people now have nothing else to buy
09:48:17 <Nothing\> i mean off the top of my head, virtual boy, but that's a no-brainer, gamecube to a lesser extent, and the wii u were all flops
09:48:18 <Lord_of_nothing> sry its not donals fault its bills
09:48:26 <Ampera> so he'll make sure we don't get any vaccine in New York
09:48:28 <Nothing\> even the n64 didn't have a huge library
09:48:48 <rust_collector> who is bill?
09:48:53 <Ampera> Just so we don't have to deal with a vaccine trump created, obviously
09:48:54 <coppice> Ampera: its not especially Trumpist issue. governments all over the place are making claims about imminent mass deployment
09:48:54 <Nothing\> but man, they fucking nailed it with the Wii
09:48:56 <Lord_of_nothing> Mr gates
09:48:56 <Ampera> I have 271 N64 games in my ROM collection
09:49:05 <Ampera> and the Wii sucked, it was 99% shovelware
09:49:06 <Nothing\> and the software on the Switch is at least fantastic
09:49:08 <Lord_of_nothing> or how does he spell...
09:49:10 <Ampera> no it's not
09:49:13 <Ampera> it's terrible
09:49:17 <Nothing\> hardware, not so much. far too pricy.
09:49:18 <rust_collector> like that
09:49:20 <Ampera> coppice, no no no, those are just other governments, it's Trump that's the real problem
09:49:22 <Ampera> ???
09:49:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's subjective, i'll give you that
09:49:28 <Ampera> he's saying it's a good vaccine, and that means it must be bad
09:49:32 <Ampera> because anything trump is bad
09:49:35 <Ampera> makes sense?
09:49:39 <Ampera> orange man bad
09:49:45 <Lord_of_nothing> well he had the best foreign politic for years
09:49:56 <Ampera> The hardware does suck, my nvidia shield tablet is faster than the nintendo switch
09:50:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, well with forcing consumers to buy a handheld device along with a console. It was almost $600 when I bought mine
09:50:12 <Ampera> wha?
09:50:15 <Ampera> wha wha?
09:50:17 <Nothing\> the wii u had the same problem with the stupid screen controller
09:50:21 <Ampera> what?
09:50:28 <Nothing\> what?
09:50:33 <Ampera> what the hell are you on about
09:50:41 <Nothing\> you didn't know the switch was portable?
09:50:43 <Ampera> who the hell made you spend 600 bucks on a switch
09:50:49 <rust_collector> I think it will be interesting to see, in 30 years, how he did
09:50:50 <Ampera> yeah but why did it cost you 600 bucks
09:50:54 <Nothing\> the guy at microplay
09:51:04 <Nothing\> cuz taht's how much they cost here
09:51:05 <Lord_of_nothing> there is always a tradeoff
09:51:12 <Nothing\> after taxes
09:51:13 <Ampera> is the CAD really /that/ worthless?
09:51:22 <Ampera> the switch here is 300 bucks + sales tax
09:51:28 <Nothing\> not so much CAD, but cost of living
09:51:29 <Lord_of_nothing> mr i love 14 vear old girls isnt a better option
09:51:32 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, no there isn't, there is always a true way to go, it's just that white men are poisoned to pick the bad ones
09:51:52 <Nothing\> oh that's right
09:52:01 <Nothing\> i bought 2 games with it too, so that's an extra $160
09:52:07 <Nothing\> hence the $600
09:52:16 <Ampera> so 460 bucks
09:52:19 <Ampera> alright that makes more sense
09:52:25 <Nothing\> yeah that sounds about right
09:52:26 <Ampera> er, 440
09:52:30 <Nothing\> i forgot about the games
09:52:31 <Ampera> apparently I can't subtract
09:52:34 <Ampera> Biden is different, he is woke, he checks his privilege, he gives the real power to the non white-males that deserve it more than him
09:52:38 <Nothing\> then a 13% sales tax
09:52:43 <Ampera> 13%?
09:52:45 <Nothing\> yup
09:52:47 <Ampera> we have 8% here :P
09:52:58 <Nothing\> it's cuz we pay 2 different sales tax
09:53:02 <Ampera> so do we
09:53:05 <Ampera> 4% and 4%
09:53:07 <Nothing\> or used, now they grouped them together into one
09:53:08 <Ampera> city and county
09:53:21 <Lord_of_nothing> do you realy want tell me the lady who is in the biden team is a afro american?
09:53:29 <Nothing\> we used to pay the goods and services tax, which i guess was like federal
09:53:39 <Nothing\> then the provincial sales tax
09:53:53 <Nothing\> one was 7% and the other was 8%
09:53:55 <rust_collector> so, asians do not count?
09:54:13 <Lord_of_nothing> i love asian ladys *gg* so for me to matter
09:54:13 <coppice> of course they count. they are great at maths
09:54:16 <Nothing\> then they brought it down to 13% and turned it into the "harmonized sales tax"
09:54:43 <Ampera> emphasis on harm
09:54:48 <Nothing\> but we get a tax credit on it for ourtax returns so it's not too bad
09:54:50 <Lord_of_nothing> asian can make good phones
09:54:55 <rust_collector> aah, but take their abacus away, and see how they do... hmmmmm
09:55:04 <Nothing\> for me it works out to $70 a month i get back for it
09:55:17 <Ampera> whu
09:55:24 <Ampera> you get a return on sales tax?
09:55:27 <rust_collector> or what they call the things over there
09:55:28 <Nothing\> yup
09:55:31 <Nothing\> isn't that sweet?
09:55:34 <Ampera> how the hell do they track that
09:55:47 <Nothing\> they estimate it based on income and some other things
09:56:10 <Nothing\> i think people who get more income get less, too
09:56:31 <Nothing\> i could be mistaken, but i think it's something to help low income people
09:56:47 <Ampera> we have a much better method of helping the poor.
09:57:17 <Nothing\> yup, it's for low income people
09:57:39 <Nothing\> so people in a higher tax bracket don't get anything back for sales tax
09:58:04 <Ampera> coppice, as for the vaccine being a scam, there is the too good to be true notion, one that a lot of people are hopeful for, and thus would give a lot of benefit of the doubt
09:58:14 <Ampera> but the thing is, with every scam there's an end game
09:58:15 <Nothing\> my bad, sales tax credit is a quarterly payment of around $100
09:58:37 <Nothing\> there's another tax credit called the trillium tax credit, which i have no clue what that's for, which is $70 a month
09:58:52 <Ampera> and I'm not sure how far pfizer would be able to take a worldwide scam of that magnitude
09:59:05 <coppice> Ampera: charging a lot per dose. it works with flu vacinnes every year. they are nearly useless
09:59:09 <Nothing\> i just know it's something provincial cuz the trillium is the provincial flower of ontario
09:59:36 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
09:59:39 <Nothing\> then you get your child tax credit for mothers/parents as well
10:00:15 <Ampera> coppice, I mean I guess they could drill the insurance companies for that, but with how much tracking is done with COVID, I'm sure people would eventually find out exactly how effective it is in reality
10:00:19 <T3sl4> Lord_of_nothing: mr i love 14 vear old girls isnt a better option <-- so, mr partying-with-epstein again?
10:00:19 <Nothing\> or an additional tax credit if you live north of the 60th parallel for the harsher living conditions up there
10:00:41 <Ampera> Silly T3sl4, Bill Clinton can't be elected for a third term
10:01:05 <Lord_of_nothing> well the found some pictures on an laptop who should show biden with small girls
10:01:07 <T3sl4> trump can't even be elected for two /airhorns
10:01:13 <Nothing\> or maybe it was lower than 60, cuz apparently taht doesn't run through ontario
10:01:15 <Lord_of_nothing> well i never seem then in person
10:01:32 <Ampera> T3sl4, I have no clue what you're talking about, Trump won the election.
10:01:43 <Ampera> It's just all these election scammers who are trying to take it from him
10:01:52 <Ampera> they hate america I tell you
10:02:00 <Ampera> they want it to fall into the hands of the progressives
10:02:06 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2020/general-results
10:02:25 <T3sl4> Lord_of_nothing: so, assuming that weren't an abject fabrication (which it most likely is), so rudy and friends are knowingly keeping CP on their several copies of the alleged hard drive, and not reporting it to the feds?
10:02:35 <Lord_of_nothing> well even i dont understand the hole election system what i see not all counties are counted
10:02:47 <Lord_of_nothing> so for that there is no official "winner"
10:02:50 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, the election didn't happen yet
10:03:07 <T3sl4> AFAIK, enough are certified now that it's official
10:03:21 <T3sl4> unless you mean that the electors haven't been sent yet, which happens in a few weeks
10:03:34 <Ampera> well yeah, that's the actual election
10:03:55 <Lord_of_nothing> the system is just crazy
10:03:56 <Ampera> and just you wait, Trump will be elected, and everyone will be so sorry, and they'll make him president for all life, and america will be great again
10:05:01 <Ampera> we'll get rid of all the gays and athiest scum, and make sure that god will bless the land once again
10:05:56 <rust_collector> and you will make god pay for that too
10:06:18 <Ampera> ^
10:06:52 <Lord_of_nothing> can anyone try pressing ALT + F4 at the same time?
10:06:55 <Ampera> We'll build a wall over the atlantic and make europe pay for it, a wall across the pacific and make China pay for it, and a wall across Canada and make them pay for it too
10:07:11 <rust_collector> yes, anyone can do that
10:07:14 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, I did it, nothing happened
10:07:27 <T3sl4> if we're good enough we'll even make a wall over the US, blot out the sun and air, and suffocate, finally making america the greatest possible
10:07:39 <arch> ya think 4x 0.5W parallel (2W combined) resistors will be able to handle a second or two of 10W power, for transient load response testing?
10:07:49 <arch> so 5V @ 2A
10:07:58 <Ampera> T3sl4, better healthcare solution than what we have now I'd say
10:08:02 <Lord_of_nothing> i wish the us would bring all there military back home
10:08:20 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, they are home, it's just that the US is a lot bigger than most want to admit
10:08:29 <Nothing\> if you can find the datasheet for the resistors it should tell you what the limit is on how much current it can take in a pulse
10:08:38 <Nothing\> but usually the pulses are a lot shorter
10:08:50 <coppice> Lord_of_nothing: Trumpist
10:08:51 <T3sl4> good thing military bases are certified US soil
10:09:04 <coppice> T3sl4: no they aren't
10:09:05 <Nothing\> not to mention it's damn near impossible to find proper resistor datasheets (for me anyways) cuz i buy chinesium
10:09:13 <Ampera> how are your cats, Nothing\?
10:09:14 <arch> obv im gonna try opening and closing the switch as fast as i can
10:09:17 <Lord_of_nothing> lol the germans pay for everythink right now
10:09:28 <Nothing\> Ampera, sleeping... for now
10:09:33 <Ampera> aww
10:09:50 <Nothing\> they'll be up when my mum gets home at 11
10:10:03 <rust_collector> ok, but do they have a wall yet?
10:10:22 <T3sl4> coppice: wait, are we doing sarcasm or no?
10:10:27 <Nothing\> oh my
10:10:34 <Nothing\> quite the snowfall out there
10:10:37 <T3sl4> i hope i didn't misread the room tonight, and that people are actually taking any of this seriously
10:10:47 <Ampera> aweghoeiwh
10:10:47 <Ampera> aewiho
10:10:49 <Ampera> aweh302y
10:10:50 <Ampera> 23yioa
10:11:16 <Ampera> I want to go shave but I don't want to get up and go shave
10:11:21 <Ampera> I was completely serious
10:11:23 <coppice> T3sl4: dunno, some Americans seem to think every US base around the world is like Guantanamo
10:11:29 <Ampera> I have no idea what you're talking about
10:11:35 <Lord_of_nothing> omg i cant wait until he build a killer robot: https://www.youtube.com/c/jamesbruton/videos
10:11:43 <Nothing\> oh weird, i found another crater in quebec
10:12:05 <Nothing\> i mean, there's this one famous crater you can see from space. it's just a huge perfectly circular lake.
10:12:13 <Nothing\> but this one's a lot smaller.
10:12:22 <Nothing\> the...
10:12:45 <Nothing\> pingaluit crater
10:13:10 <Ampera> I'm bored
10:13:14 <Nothing\> pingualuit?
10:13:25 <Ampera> I don't want to see your peenwhatever
10:13:34 <Ampera> I've seen enough horrors in my life
10:14:09 <Nothing\> only about 2 miles wide
10:14:30 <Nothing\> lol it's obviously named after pingu
10:17:33 <arch> noot noot motherfucker
10:19:42 <Nothing\> precisely
10:19:59 <Nothing\> i've been going through them all, but they make time feel so much longer cuz they're only 5 minutes long
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10:20:16 <Nothing\> so you watch 4 and feel like it's been an hour, but only 20 minutes have passed.
10:20:17 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWG3KZSzqUY
10:21:22 <Nothing\> well then
10:21:28 <Nothing\> that wasn't quite what i expected lol
10:21:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, you should try the PSX game LSD: Dream Emulator
10:21:58 <Ampera> in five days, god is coming
10:22:18 <Nothing\> it's not so much a game so much as it's an increasingly confusing fever dream
10:22:25 <Ampera> I wish god was coming, so he could remove me from this world, and right his terrible mistake
10:22:36 <Ampera> sounds like my life
10:22:40 <Nothing\> you're not a mistake Ampera
10:22:48 <Ampera> but as it's on the playstation I'll pass
10:22:48 <arch> <3
10:22:50 <Ampera> Nothing\, prove it
10:23:09 <Ampera> I guess god just really intended for me to suffer then
10:23:26 <Ampera> good thing he isn't real, and just an imaginary figure I chose to assign blame to
10:23:31 * arch stuffs Ampera into his fat manboobs and gives him a bear hug
10:23:35 <Nothing\> just because you're going through hardships, some of which admittedly stem from your brain and body's function, not all of them are
10:24:11 <Nothing\> and none of this is certainly yourfault in the least bit
10:24:32 <Nothing\> but you need to work at it
10:24:58 <Ampera> if this is not my fault, whoever's fault it is really is a fucking psychopath
10:25:47 <Nothing\> i can't say how, that's for you to figure out through deep and unbiased observation of your actions and mind and analyses of why they went down the way they did
10:26:02 <Nothing\> that's what helped me figure my problems out
10:26:07 <Ampera> cause at the end of the day
10:26:12 <Ampera> some people roll snake eyes
10:27:29 <Nothing\> i just endlesslessly examined everything i did and thought and tried to understand why i did and thought those things and get to the root of my problem
10:27:38 <Ampera> I didn't do anything though
10:27:43 <Nothing\> and yeah that too
10:27:46 <Ampera> my only mistake was existing
10:27:48 <Nothing\> sometimes it's just shit luck
10:28:07 <Nothing\> but i believe wholeheartedly you do have a chance to turn yournself around Ampera
10:28:21 <Nothing\> and i'm not just saying that to feed you bullshit and make you feel better
10:28:27 <Nothing\> i really believe it
10:28:48 <Ampera> as said before I'm currently not aware of a method to resolve my problems
10:28:53 <Ampera> and one likely won't come around in my lifetime
10:28:59 <Ampera> at least not before being far too late to help
10:30:27 <Nothing\> you have more potential at recovery than any of the other literally hundreds of troubled people i've talked to and tried to help and what not
10:33:50 <Ampera> people recover if the problems that affect them can be removed
10:33:52 <Ampera> mine can't
10:34:34 <arch> YOLO
10:34:40 <arch> :D
10:35:20 <Ampera> thankfully
10:35:32 <Ampera> if I had to go through this all again I'd shoot myself right now
10:35:36 <Ampera> with the gun I don't have
10:35:37 <Ampera> :/
10:36:24 <arch> YOGOPON: you only get one pair of nuts
10:38:51 <arch> here, watch this and cheer up Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrj_JFGAj1M
10:39:06 <Ampera> please no
10:39:11 <Ampera> I don't want whatever that is
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10:56:36 <arch> :3
10:56:47 <rust_collector> 9!
11:05:02 * T3sl4 toobs arch
11:05:41 * arch boobytraps T3sl4's lab with lego bricks scattered around
11:06:45 <arch> godamn this fucking OSHA30 course is such a bore. all these common sense questions ugh
11:07:20 <Nothing\> neato
11:07:27 <Nothing\> r=a\frac{\sin\left(\theta\right)}{\theta}
11:07:38 <Nothing\> hrm well that didn't exactly copy verbatim
11:07:55 <Nothing\> was supposed to be
11:08:58 <Nothing\> r=a(sin(theta))/theta
11:09:12 <Nothing\> makes for a really neat curve
11:10:53 <T3sl4> mmm, boob traps
11:11:25 <rust_collector> squish squish squish
11:12:30 <T3sl4> also known as sinc(theta)
11:12:55 * Ampera wraps T3sl4 up in chains, tosses him into an empty tub to drown
11:13:02 <T3sl4> :(
11:13:24 <Ampera> that's my favorite line of all time from mittens squad
11:21:34 <Nothing\> T3sl4, or you could always use this: https://nathanfriend.io/inspirograph/
11:21:52 <Nothing\> i was soooo glad to find this
11:26:36 <Nothing\> argh i jus remembered this awesome molecule modeling software suite i used to use but i can't for the life of me remember what it was called
11:27:15 <Nothing\> it was free so that was a nice plus
11:27:25 <DHess_US> 98% complete ... 99% complete ... 98% complete ... Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
11:30:18 <Nothing\> ah i'm so glad i pirated mathematica 12
11:30:31 <Nothing\> i grew too used to having it available on my pi
11:31:44 <coppice> Nothing\: Its less fun that using the actual spirograph toy was in the 1960s
11:33:47 <Nothing\> indeed
11:33:57 <Nothing\> it's always better having the hands on version
11:34:03 <Nothing\> whether it's a toy or a book or whatever
11:35:41 <Nothing\> i started my foray into electronics with paul falstad's circuit simulator and that proved to be very educational as i eventually learned enough to do it in real life
11:36:57 <coppice> spirograph was incredibly popular when it first appeared. I wonder how many they sold
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11:38:28 <rust_collector> LALALALALAAAAA
11:38:56 <Ysjoelfir> oi!
11:39:04 <rust_collector> oioi!
11:39:06 <Ysjoelfir> I just wanted to say good night, then you began to sing!
11:39:17 <rust_collector> LAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
11:39:28 <rust_collector> lala
11:39:55 <rust_collector> so, what is the plan for the aftersleep?
11:40:35 <Ysjoelfir> probably throwing those carburetors at the BMW. recharged the battery today, so tomorrow I try if that beast runs with those new used carbs
11:41:06 <rust_collector> that should be a good day
11:41:30 <Ysjoelfir> hopefully
11:41:43 <rust_collector> well, you know....
11:41:57 <rust_collector> at least you get to know that it was not the carbs, lol
11:42:48 <Ysjoelfir> lol :P I hope it isn't like that XD
11:43:48 <rust_collector> so, if it works ok, let me know, so I can make some more wallpaper glue
11:43:55 <Ysjoelfir> XD
11:44:07 <Ysjoelfir> you already know that I'll make a tour up north?
11:44:25 <rust_collector> there are rumors going around...
11:45:54 <rust_collector> bring chains and 2 tents. it should be fun
11:46:52 <Ysjoelfir> chains?
11:47:04 <rust_collector> it is not summer yet
11:47:50 <Ysjoelfir> ah. you think I'm not heavy enough to keep the tent from flying away?
11:48:11 <rust_collector> I was thinking about chains for your wheels, but...
11:48:43 <Ysjoelfir> oh, those kind of chains. yes, I actually built those for the Yamaha once. thought about doing it for the BMW as well, as it was fun :D
11:49:16 <rust_collector> I would be interested in finding out if putting one tent inside a larger tent would be a good idea
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11:49:38 <rust_collector> chains are magic
11:49:48 <Ysjoelfir> I would immagine it being helpful, making basically a... double insulation.
11:49:55 <rust_collector> right
11:51:51 <rust_collector> we used single layer tents in the army, they were pretty thick, but still just a single layer, but otoh, the burner had a line into the fuel tank of the elendewagen
11:52:24 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds convenient.
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11:52:49 <rust_collector> so as we just poured heat into it, it was hot. but.... yeah, I think a second layer would be nice
11:52:58 <Ysjoelfir> I have been watching some russian guy doing outdoor craft stuff. he had some nice ideas for tent heating as well.
11:53:04 <_mamalala> aloha everyone
11:53:19 <rust_collector> lahone gua!
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11:53:40 <rust_collector> hmm, some russian guy....
11:53:43 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, that guy https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc1ufNROdAxto9Fr0jnEE2Q
11:53:47 <Ysjoelfir> hi _mamalala
11:53:57 <rust_collector> so... you havee been watching max, from st.petersburg
11:54:24 <Ysjoelfir> yes
11:54:34 <_mamalala> Ysjoelfir: heya....
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11:56:42 <_mamalala> how's life, generally?
11:56:44 <rust_collector> рууууунщ
11:56:51 <rust_collector> црфе_
11:56:57 <rust_collector> wth?
11:57:02 <Ysjoelfir> erm, indeed
11:57:23 <Ysjoelfir> life? meh. mediocre. :D
11:57:32 <Ysjoelfir> still waiting for a new job
11:57:55 <rust_collector> start selling kebab
11:58:28 <_mamalala> my niece passed away just a few weeks ago.... she barely got 5 years old
11:58:45 <rust_collector> that is not great
11:59:24 <Ysjoelfir> aww :(
11:59:45 <_mamalala> it's all shit
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12:00:47 <Ysjoelfir> I can immagine
12:00:50 * Ysjoelfir hugs _mamalala
12:01:51 <_mamalala> well, one upside is that now i taök to my mother again ....
12:02:20 <Ysjoelfir> still a high price to pay
12:02:36 <_mamalala> not pretty, though... but still.... after 30+ years
12:03:30 <_mamalala> but in the end, its all shit
12:06:24 <_mamalala> first, one of my cats passed suddebly....
12:07:05 <_mamalala> then, my niee passe... barely made it 5 years
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12:16:18 <_mamalala> life is a bitch sometimes
12:16:55 <Ysjoelfir> it indeed is
12:17:26 <Halcyon> Afternoon everyone
12:17:39 * Halcyon sips a glass of sparkling wine with passionfruit pulp
12:18:50 <_mamalala> Ysjoelfir: 30+ years of no contact to my family.... and the it all comes down
12:19:24 * Halcyon hugs _mamalala
12:19:36 <_mamalala> makes you messud up.... at least it did me
12:20:12 <Halcyon> I might have missed something _mamalala, but why no contact, if it's not too private of a question.
12:20:45 <Ysjoelfir> I can immagine
12:22:03 <steve30> There's a helicopter flying around outside
12:22:34 <T3sl4> well, a kitty won't help, but maybe it'll be a distraction https://imgur.com/gallery/LMjUpu8
12:22:34 <rust_collector> throw a brick at it?
12:22:35 <_mamalala> Halcyon: care for a skype call? otherwise i'd have bloody fingers.... Ysjoelfir is welcome too
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12:23:29 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to join, but I have to go to bed :/ mrs. spouse wants to go to the woods this morning, so I should get at least a bit sleep
12:24:11 <coppice> steve30: would you rather it flew around inside?
12:24:21 <steve30> nope
12:24:30 <Ysjoelfir> So I hope you also find at least SOME sleep soon. I wish you the best. gn8 all
12:24:49 <electrohead> lol
12:25:23 <rust_collector> night allthepeople
12:25:27 <_mamalala> Ysjoelfir: thanks
12:26:19 <_mamalala> other than that, my skype nick is cbrisk2
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12:27:17 <arch> ideally, for a transient load tester, you wanna minimize the wire length to reduce inductance, so the slew rate is fast, right? how long is too long? is 3 inches considered a lot? (please no dirty joke responses)
12:27:29 <Halcyon> _mamalala, I don't use Skype :P
12:27:33 <coppice> Nothing\: The sinc function, so called because the amplitude drains away from the centre
12:27:48 <Halcyon> But that's OK, if you don't feel up to typing, all good.
12:28:13 <_mamalala> Halcyon: well, i can offer threema then... but that's all i got, sorry
12:28:27 <Halcyon> No idea what that is. All good.
12:29:10 <_mamalala> H78N2ERX
12:29:45 * Halcyon licks T3sl4
12:29:52 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
12:30:02 <Halcyon> :)
12:30:16 <Halcyon> It's about 32 degrees C here and I am having a boozy afternoon :)
12:30:24 <Halcyon> Just got back from getting my hair cut
12:30:43 <_mamalala> just a random chatter down, that's all... sorry for buggering folks
12:30:58 * T3sl4 mints Halcyon a rum
12:31:21 <Halcyon> _mamalala, we generally don't have any rules here, but one rule is, never apologise for things like that.
12:31:52 <Halcyon> Firstly, there is no need, secondly, there are plenty of people here with problems and deamons but likewise there are people here who will listen and care.
12:32:30 <Halcyon> Everyone should feel welcome to vent or unload when needed.
12:33:03 <T3sl4> Halcyon sus
12:33:09 <Halcyon> Hm?
12:33:42 <T3sl4> among us meme :P
12:33:48 <Halcyon> Mmmmk
12:34:45 <_mamalala> Halcyon: i know, somewhat.... still, recent events have not been nice, so to say... cat suddenly died, niece followed soon after....
12:35:05 <_mamalala> sorry to bug any of you foks with that crap
12:35:06 <T3sl4> 2020 has been a... 2020
12:35:31 <Halcyon> I'm so sorry to hear that mate :(
12:36:32 <_mamalala> Halcyon: thanks
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12:42:00 <_mamalala> fucking 5 years old ... barely.... and that "is all" that broughtmy family close to me again, after 30+ years...
12:42:28 <_mamalala> sorry to bother you foks here in this chat
12:42:35 <Halcyon> Stop apologising
12:42:52 <_mamalala> it's just me feeling down now....
12:44:52 <Halcyon> I think you're more than entitled to
12:45:45 <T3sl4> arch: i suppose. what transient?
12:46:17 <electrohead> o/
12:46:22 <_mamalala> Halcyon: depends on the POV, i guess
12:47:56 <_mamalala> just fucks me up...
12:51:05 <Halcyon> Hey electrohead
12:51:18 <_mamalala> Halcyon: but thanks for your kind words
12:56:13 <arch> quickly flicking a switch on and off with a resistor in series
12:56:49 <arch> well, i finished making it and im seeing something off
12:56:50 <arch> odd
12:57:03 <arch> it goes into frequency foldback when i apply a full 2A load
12:57:21 <arch> but if i ramp it up slowly, it works fine
12:57:24 <arch> TPS562201
12:59:14 <arch> i was hoping to see the figure in Figure 8-13 on page 16: https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps562201.pdf
12:59:18 <arch> but alas, it's not doing so
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12:59:38 <arch> i have sufficient output capacitance, 44uF, 5V output
13:00:02 <arch> let me try popping a higher capacitance input cap, maybe that 800mV input cap ripple is what's causing problems
13:00:14 <_mamalala> marihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUruIgcM8s0&list=PLGrebrgQ9RM2yvtquFEf5dnAXtsw3ce4O&index=1
13:00:26 <arch> about 1.5feet long jumper cables from my power supply, which is set to 10V
13:02:13 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKKTLVNUfls&list=PLGrebrgQ9RM2yvtquFEf5dnAXtsw3ce4O&index=6
13:02:31 <_mamalala> bestb one, anyways
13:04:27 <T3sl4> those are actually rather slow transients, i wonder how (or why) they show that
13:04:28 <arch> =(
13:04:51 <arch> no success, even with an added 47uF electro cap in parallel right at the input, in parallel with the 10uF input cap
13:06:30 <T3sl4> also their caption and scale don't match up
13:07:00 <T3sl4> well, there's an easy way to see if it's due to lead inductance. measure input ripple
13:07:38 <arch> let me hook up my electronic load again. it works fine with that, at 2A (for about 30 seconds, before the PCB overheats and shuts down)
13:07:40 <T3sl4> good idea to see what that's doing under transient too
13:07:43 <Halcyon> Damn I love kewpie mayo and sriracha
13:07:49 <arch> and that ^^
13:08:16 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgSYG1Yx_Hs&list=PLGrebrgQ9RM2yvtquFEf5dnAXtsw3ce4O&index=7
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13:13:09 <arch> i can hear the inductor buzz and the voltage drops to about 0.3V, as soon as the flick the load on
13:13:28 <arch> gonna get the waveforms now and see how this can be fixed
13:13:46 <arch> seems to be going into frequency foldback even tho it's within the rated 2.25A capability
13:17:29 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8BzpPgrzZs&list=PLGrebrgQ9RM2yvtquFEf5dnAXtsw3ce4O&index=9
13:17:32 <_mamalala> :P
13:19:07 <arch> i think i damaged my PCB is what
13:19:16 <arch> cuz my electronic load is doing the same thing
13:21:53 <arch> welp, that's the last time i use 0.4mm copperclads for smps 🤷
13:22:20 <arch> maybe a feedback line came loose. im gonna reflow this shit real quic
13:22:42 <Ampera> The Razer Kishi I bought broke. Left and right on the dpad is completely dead.
13:22:58 <Ampera> great quality from an 80 dollar controller :P
13:26:55 <T3sl4> oh, thats very thin
13:27:00 <T3sl4> whered you get that? ebay?
13:27:04 <arch> great...fucking feedback line came off
13:27:10 <arch> year ebay :D
13:27:14 <arch> twas cheap
13:27:40 <arch> i got 10 pieces, 6 inch by 4 inch, double sided 0.4mm copperclads, for $6 total lol
13:28:08 <T3sl4> i have 0.8mm i think, oh and like 0.13mm something or other, it looks like unassuming copper sheet but there's no continuity between the two sides *brainsplode*
13:28:21 <arch> later on i got a whole assortment of copperclad scrap pieces for $18, FIVE POUNDS worth of copperclads
13:28:31 <arch> and those have all sorts of different thicknesses
13:28:39 <T3sl4> i did that like 10 fkn years ago, my box is finally almost empty
13:29:18 <arch> you can charge up those tiny copperclads to 10kV and leave it lying around for your coworkers to touch and get zapped
13:29:30 <arch> copperclad capacitors muahaha
13:29:42 <T3sl4> hardly enough capacitance to kill anyone tho :(
13:29:59 <arch> i wonder if it's possible to make a marx generator using the copperclads themselves as the capacitors
13:30:07 <arch> pieces of copperclads
13:30:16 <T3sl4> https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/Wideband_Amp_4W_50MHz.jpg there's two pieces of the thin stuff on this actually, the 4.7k resistor on the left runs just above the darker strip which is some
13:30:17 <arch> probably would have to sandwich quite a few of them
13:35:28 <Halcyon> How old is it?
13:35:43 <arch> i barely understand how power supplies work and you expect me to understand what that alien artifact you have there does?
13:36:28 <arch> ok that's it. im fucking gluing this piece of shit copperclad down to something sturdier
13:36:35 <T3sl4> nope, just showing off that it's very flexible
13:36:44 <T3sl4> handy in this case for routing gate drive
13:36:45 <Ampera> Halcyon, months
13:36:55 <Halcyon> So, send it back under warranty
13:37:00 <Ampera> I intend to
13:37:04 <Halcyon> YAY
13:37:25 <Ampera> but it's quite a pain in the ass to spend what you would call over a hundred bucks on a controller made out of shitty plastic and depression
13:37:28 <Halcyon> OMG, so many coons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp26_oc4CA
13:37:32 <Ampera> and for it to be literally one of the best options
13:37:36 <Ampera> Halcyon, stop being racist
13:37:36 <Halcyon> Yeh I agree
13:40:22 <arch> neat
13:40:31 <arch> definitely copperclad layout is an artform of its own
13:41:16 <arch> all too easy to make manufactured PCBs these days. every grandmother and their dog can order a PCB, but harder to make the same thing on copperclad when you have to keep in mind drilling holes is a fucking pain
13:42:58 <Ampera> people who do serious phone gaming really confuse the fuck out of me
13:43:08 <T3sl4> deadbug ftw
13:43:41 <Ampera> people are either in the, snap a bracket on your phone and use the touch controls, weirdo camp, or the bolt your entire phone to a huge console controller like a shittier nvidia shield
13:43:43 <arch> o ya, yet another form of dark arts wizardry
13:44:32 <Ampera> snap on controllers just seem to be some weird anti-idea that nobody does outside of cheap no-name brands and Razer, who has the quality of a cheap no-name
13:44:53 <arch> deadbug arduino: https://i2.wp.com/www.SDMakersGuild.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FreeformSMDlittlewire.jpg?w=640
13:45:21 <arch> probably will die if you so much as cough on it too hard, but very cool nonetheless
13:45:22 <T3sl4> that style looks neat, but has to be incredibly brittle
13:45:50 <Ampera> also it's insane the sheer quantity of chinesium that flood Amazon sometimes
13:46:28 <T3sl4> it's not ~horrible~ for THT parts, but it's electromagnetic swiss cheese, no good for high frequencies
13:47:27 <Halcyon> Sometimes?
13:47:51 <arch> http://www.okmoviequotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/1-Poetic-Justice-quotes.jpg
13:49:01 <arch> ugh one more wire left to solder and then pray this is fixed so i can finally do the transient response
13:49:08 <Ampera> most of the time even
13:50:38 <Halcyon> Yep, because a lot of consumers don't understand (or care) about the difference. If it breaks, just buy a new one.
13:53:23 <Ampera> I just want /one/ company to have made an actually decent phone controller, even if I have to spend a lot of money, so long as it's a nice controller
13:53:30 <Ampera> but there doesn't seem to have been a single attempt by anyone
13:53:33 <Ampera> nobody has tried
13:53:56 <Halcyon> Seems like a bit of a niche product. Probably not much point in it?
13:54:49 <Ampera> What do you mean?
13:54:49 <Halcyon> Considering the target market is usually kids and younger people.
13:54:57 <Ampera> wha
13:55:08 <Halcyon> Well, demand and the target market dictate manufacturing.
13:55:19 <Halcyon> Why build a super expensive product that very few people would buy?
13:55:39 <Ampera> but what doesn't make sense to me is everyone has a phone that can run emulators, and people fucking jizz their pants over emulation consoles
13:55:55 <Ampera> so why the hell are people just not willing to put two and two together and make a good accessory for a phone for that purpose
13:56:01 <Halcyon> *shrug*
13:56:18 <Halcyon> Again, I guess most of that market segment don't really care.
13:56:21 <Ampera> sometimes I think I am literally the only person on the planet with what I think are pretty reasonable use cases
13:56:29 <Halcyon> Yep, probably
13:56:54 <arch> YAAAS
13:56:57 <arch> it's workinnnnggg
13:57:04 <arch> FUUUUCK that was annoying
13:57:11 <arch> waveforms coming soon
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14:01:32 <arch> arrgh, bouncing switch fuck
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14:04:15 <Halcyon> Heheh there is a town in Victoria called "Boort"
14:04:25 <Halcyon> I wonder if it's pronounced like a fart noise
14:06:54 <arch> this goddamn fucking shitty switch smh
14:07:08 <arch> too much bouncing going on, but from what i can tell, the response is good
14:07:10 <T3sl4> mmm, bouncing switch titties
14:08:47 <Halcyon> These cats look confused as fuck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-eeNvUEGDk
14:09:22 <arch> T3sl4, https://imgur.com/a/yQ5DeZk
14:10:00 <T3sl4> surprised the burst mode ripple is that high, but i didn't look to see what it's supposed to be
14:10:19 <arch> frequency of 85Hz, wow
14:10:22 <arch> that's low af
14:10:45 <T3sl4> no load after all
14:11:38 <arch> so on the downgoing transient, it's about 200mV
14:11:48 <arch> that seems a bit excessive(?)
14:12:00 <arch> ill try adding in a feedforward cap to see if it makes it better
14:12:10 <T3sl4> and why is it bouncing in 10s of us
14:12:19 <T3sl4> just use a MOSFET and resistor
14:12:28 <arch> my shitty ass mechanical switch
14:12:43 <arch> yea, that's what im gonna have to do after this ordeal...
14:12:55 <arch> goddamn Nappa
14:13:58 <arch> let me see what the upgoing transient looks like
14:16:59 <arch> well, TI definitely bastardized those transient response graphs, thats for sure. 100us/div is far too long
14:17:29 <arch> looks like 5us/div is more reasonable
14:23:23 <arch> well, im pretty pleased with the results
14:23:44 <arch> well, except for the shitty switch bouncing, but that can't be helped...gonna have to make a 555 timer controlled switch or something
14:23:59 <arch> with a low rds, low gate charge mosfet
14:26:28 <arch> should i use a dedicated gate driver IC for that, or is that overkill?
14:26:48 <arch> i dont need nanosecond response times, do i?
14:27:04 <arch> or slew rates
14:27:14 <T3sl4> 555 is fine
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14:28:43 <arch> i have some AO34xx series SOT-23 low RDS mosfets, those should be fine for 2 or 3A transient testing for a few milliseconds tops at up to 10V
14:34:47 <arch> potato quality, but that is what i used to test it with: https://i.imgur.com/FvDglpM.jpg
14:35:47 <arch> blackberry has a real shitty camera, goddamn
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14:36:01 <Nothing\> man
14:36:39 <Nothing\> what a day and age we live in where within seconds of having the desire, i can be talking to people from all over the world
14:37:22 <Nothing\> huh, i've found some genuine reports of kids dying after inhaling helium from a balloon
14:37:27 <Nothing\> that i would have nearly the entirety of mankind's knowledge accessible to me at a whim
14:38:01 <Nothing\> you'd think once they lost consciousness and stopped breathing from the balloon they'd begin breathing normally and regain consciousness after a short time.
14:38:02 <arch> they were gonna die from more painful methods otherwise due to their stupidity, so better a noble gas do that without pain
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14:38:14 <rust_collector> well, it woudl be weird if they inhaled helium after they were dead...
14:38:23 <arch> oh a wise guy eh?
14:38:29 <Nothing\> that's the one upshot to asphyxiating on a noble gas
14:38:30 * arch slaps rust_collector and pokes him in the eyes
14:38:38 <Nothing\> all iccessible on o a tv that's nearly twice the size of something that was considered big then i was a child
14:38:39 <Nothing\> it doesn't trigger any sort of pain reaction
14:38:43 <rust_collector> I was at skool
14:38:47 <Nothing\> but no picture in a picture :(
14:39:01 <Nothing\> we really are living in the futue
14:39:03 <Nothing\> since your body's notion of how much oxygen your blood has is based on co2 levels
14:39:06 <arch> and nitrogen, carbon monoxide too
14:39:28 <Nothing\> and the pain is also caused by the co2 causing your blood to become more acidic than usual
14:39:44 <Nothing\> arch, carbon monoxide causes symptoms
14:40:49 <Nothing\> well, i guess they all cause symptoms. but CO seems to cause them to a greater degree. But I may be mistaken
14:40:55 <Nothing\> i remember same decades ago reading an article about how one bay we'd be integrating computers into everything cuz chips are gonna be pannis a piece and it's happening
14:41:29 <arch> if you are awake, then yes. otherwise, if you're asleep, you'll probably wont wake up
14:46:05 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
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14:46:15 <Nothing\> true enough
14:48:11 <arch> night night
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14:53:28 * T3sl4 wafts some ignoble gas towards Nothing\
15:00:53 <Halcyon> Anyone here a fan of Ashens?
15:04:00 <Ampera> no ashens sucks
15:04:05 <Ampera> hi Nothing\ how are you
15:04:10 <Halcyon> You suck
15:04:42 <Ampera> I wish
15:06:13 <Halcyon> His new movie isn't actually half bad
15:06:26 <Halcyon> Ashens and the Polybius Heist
15:06:50 <Ampera> Halcyon, so you're saying it's fully bad?
15:06:53 <Ampera> no big surprise
15:07:04 <Halcyon> It's not bad at all
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15:42:02 * Nothing\ goes pooooooof
15:42:19 <Nothing\> man, i just found the dongle to my wireless logitech gamepad
15:42:43 <Nothing\> it's been missing for a month, turned out it was plugged into a usb cable i had hanging up
15:43:04 <Nothing\> but meanwhile i bought a corded one so
15:43:08 * Nothing\ shrugs
15:57:52 <Ampera> that was a pain in the ass
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15:58:17 <Ampera> ImageMagick seems to like updating its libraries into incompatible interfaces, so my windowmaker binaries break
15:58:24 <Ampera> looks like I can just rebuild them and it's fine
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16:06:49 <Nothing\> hey Ampera i'm well
16:06:55 <Nothing\> how've you been?
16:07:00 <Nothing\> also
16:07:03 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera
16:07:07 <Ampera> I'm doing alright
16:07:09 <Ampera> I guess
16:07:23 <Nothing\> as alright as can be expected, huh?
16:07:58 <Ampera> my god I need to overhaul my PXE system
16:08:06 <Nothing\> man, i really wish i could help you
16:08:06 <Ampera> it is proper ass right now
16:08:33 <Nothing\> but don't feel like you're burdening me at all, cuz you're not
16:08:37 <Nothing\> by any means
16:09:35 <Ampera> wha?
16:09:35 <Nothing\> i always used to feel bad about talking to others about my problems cuz i'd be like "well they've got they're own problems and now i'm only adding to it. And half of this stuff is my own stupid fault anyways.
16:09:43 <Ampera> wha
16:09:49 <Nothing\> Ampera, i mean talking to me about your problems and that
16:09:59 <Ampera> I'm talking about a netboot server
16:10:03 <Nothing\> sorry i shoud have specified that
16:10:09 <Nothing\> haha yeah i realize that
16:10:52 <Nothing\> don't mind me, i'm just kinda... absent-minded
16:11:01 <Nothing\> too tired
16:11:21 <Nothing\> at least that's what i put it down to
16:11:54 <Halcyon> I has Nissin ramen
16:12:21 <Ampera> I have nissin, Mama, and some indonesian brand I forget
16:12:26 <Ampera> oh and samyang
16:12:27 <Halcyon> I like the texture of their noodle
16:12:30 <Nothing\> i'm like a damn kid when it comes to bed. I can be falling asleep in my chair and my mind'll still be like "yeah but there are still so many other fun things to do"
16:12:59 <Nothing\> or in the middle of preparing things for the night, i end up back on the computer
16:13:06 <Nothing\> or phone
16:13:46 <Nothing\> it's like my ADD is so bad I even get distracted from sleeping
16:15:14 <Nothing\> hrm
16:15:52 <Nothing\> i've had this problem for years where i can't find an emulator that emulate sim earth on the SNES properly. The overworld map is always just blank and grey.
16:16:12 <Nothing\> but I was just thinking there might be a wiiware version i could get
16:22:15 <Nothing\> of course, i have sim earth on my wii, but it's for the turbo graphix 16
16:24:27 <Nothing\> bah there's no snes version for the wii. just the TG16 version.
16:24:34 <Nothing\> what dumbass made that decision.
16:24:48 <Nothing\> guess it's the DOS version for me
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16:55:21 <Halcyon> ROFL, I've forgotten how funny the movie Bruno is
16:56:33 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/kq6E2hQ20wc?t=67
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18:07:00 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:21:58 <hsn> Halcyon: get up from the floor
18:22:06 <Ampera> T3sl4, https://youtu.be/XhXgz8ieQRY?t=378
18:22:10 <Ampera> took me a while to find it
18:29:00 <hsn> morning Ysjoelfir
18:29:45 <Ysjoelfir> hi hsn
18:34:52 <Halcyon> Hm?
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18:45:37 <hsn> o/
18:46:17 <hsn> Ampera, r u good in statistics ?
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19:19:35 <hsn> busy day ?
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19:20:16 <Ysjoelfir> nope, not at all
19:20:44 <DogWomble> statistically i am no good at statistics
19:20:59 <DogWomble> anything harder than 1+1 and i'm reaching for the cowculator
19:30:24 <hsn> DogWomble, 6/2(1+2) = ?
19:31:06 <DogWomble> i believe the answer is two times the amount of belly button fluff required to reshingle the roof
19:33:03 <hsn> DogWomble, how many belly button fluff required to reshingle the roof
19:34:03 <DogWomble> about 37 cbic muhna muhna's
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19:38:42 <hsn> https://www.reddit.com/r/lifehacks/comments/6d9d79/prevent_a_lockeddown_work_pc_from_sleeping/
19:43:53 <hsn> hah https://snipboard.io/8mi26j.jpg
19:45:00 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/x1LcEW.jpg
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20:00:05 <Halcyon> Phew, it's still hot inside... 24.8C
20:00:14 <Halcyon> Might need to turn on the AC
20:00:46 * rust_collector is making waffles
20:01:01 <Halcyon> You know, I don't think I've EVER had a fresh waffle in my entire life
20:01:40 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvkFtMUJ5Qg
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20:14:55 <rust_collector> this can get interesting. I put crushed cornflakes and oatmeal in there
20:15:41 <Halcyon> Sounds OK
20:17:14 <rust_collector> yep. now we just have to wait and see if it tastes ok too
20:26:31 <rust_collector> heh. I am playing with the beepers from 2 old smoke detectors. just powering them with the frequency output of the dmm. the dogs really enjoy that
20:34:05 <Halcyon> Poor dogs
20:34:56 <rust_collector> it is very low volume. I can barely hear it sitting here. they are downstais
20:53:09 <rust_collector> hmm, that is some weird waffles. I added some sour cream also, but they need more fat to work properly
21:13:07 <rust_collector> heh, some woman is outside, yelling stuff
21:13:38 <rust_collector> so I look outside, and some kid is rolling around in a puddle of water
21:13:44 <rust_collector> perfect
21:21:53 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
21:24:31 <Kuschelpony> weird, i get an increasing urge to solder an guitar amplifier and experiment with all the distorsion effects, but i cant play guitar and habe none at all
21:25:03 <steve30> hehe
21:25:19 <rust_collector> yeah. it is a bit weird. I am the same way, something looks interesting, but... whyyyy?
21:26:28 <Kuschelpony> i have no idea, originally i was lookign for an Cd radio modem and then drifted away
21:26:35 <Kuschelpony> CB radio
21:26:49 <rust_collector> hmm, modem?
21:27:27 <rust_collector> Ysjoelpine got my old cb radio... I hope he can use it for parts or something
21:28:00 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/9aGoLSq
21:28:13 <rust_collector> too bad no one else is out of bed
21:28:32 <Kuschelpony> yes, originally i thought i try to decode some data stream on one of the channels
21:28:40 <Kuschelpony> where i live there are a few channels still alive
21:29:34 <rust_collector> like, broadcasting radio stations, just on the cb band?
21:31:59 <Kuschelpony> no, more like channels where a network of data streams seem to run between several stations, often transmitting for minutes, i have not very often tried to X and ask whats happening
21:32:46 <Kuschelpony> either noone is listening to vioce at all or they dont repsond
21:32:54 <rust_collector> oh. hmm,
21:33:53 <rust_collector> can it be just "junk" from some guys homemade microwave?
21:34:25 <Kuschelpony> no, very likely intentional transmissions on the 27Mhz band and alternating between a few stations
21:34:46 <rust_collector> hmm, interesting
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21:35:00 <Kuschelpony> hmmm, maybe i should set up somethign mobile and go fox hunting one day? but without a car i might not get far enough across the country
21:35:15 <rust_collector> well, it is good that you tell us, in case you suddenly disappear
21:36:39 <rust_collector> a bike with 5 long antennas, and a small cart of batteries would not look weird at all
21:37:26 <Kuschelpony> well, there are reasons why i make no personally revealing photos o nthe internet :) but i do have done lots of weird stuff outside so this one wouldnt be too different
21:38:05 <Kuschelpony> thnik like a fildday i nthe age when there were still AM stations in Germany, setting up an 90meter dipole across a river
21:38:29 <rust_collector> sounds fun
21:39:43 <rust_collector> i like how much more quiet it is up here, now that most of FM is shut down. At night, I can hear things from far away, on AM
21:40:13 <Kuschelpony> yes
21:40:44 <Kuschelpony> i did that filedday in the hope to have a place that has the least disturbance from the towns
21:41:14 <rust_collector> one or two from england, one french, and at least one I believe is ukranian...
21:41:50 <hsn> Hey Ysjoelfir
21:41:53 <hsn> https://nanoleaf.me/en-US/products/nanoleaf-shapes/#nanoleaf-shop
21:41:57 <hsn> Look at price
21:42:02 <rust_collector> just on a normal car stereo
21:44:40 <rust_collector> dads neighbor is a radio guy, with an antenna from the roof, and to some trees. I should talk to that guy....But there are so many things I should do
21:44:58 <Kuschelpony> hihi
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22:12:30 <Ysjoelfir> yikes
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22:15:25 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/GH4EWt.jpg
22:15:38 <Ysjoelfir> eh.... o.o
22:15:42 <Ysjoelfir> does mr king allow this pic?
22:15:46 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, sound good to do project like this ?
22:15:55 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, in https ? :D
22:16:01 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely! :D
22:16:04 <hsn> how he knows what it is
22:16:15 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, i mean u do it not me lol
22:16:16 <hsn> :D
22:16:28 <Ysjoelfir> erm.... no thanks :D
22:16:35 <hsn> hahah why not .
22:16:46 <Ysjoelfir> not my style :D
22:17:00 <hsn> but dont u want money and do ur own company ?
22:17:01 <hsn> :D
22:22:44 * Halcyon paws at Ysjoelfir
22:23:27 <Ysjoelfir> I do, but.. not like that^^
22:23:30 * Ysjoelfir pets Halcyon
22:23:34 <Halcyon> :D
22:26:42 <hsn> Halcyon, congratz
22:27:05 <hsn> u survived the chance god converting me to a lightening and me having the well to attack ur bed
22:27:29 <Ysjoelfir> xD
22:27:49 <Halcyon> You want to know why hsn?
22:28:11 <hsn> i've a feeling that i will regret that i want to know why but sure yes i want to know why
22:28:57 <Halcyon> I survived because god doesn't exist... therefore there was 0% chance that would happen.
22:28:58 <Halcyon> :P
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22:31:58 <hsn> hey guys
22:32:25 <hsn> Halcyon, karma exist ?
22:32:52 <rust_collector> hey hsn
22:33:08 <hsn> hey rust the non dust
22:33:32 <rust_collector> right, more dandruff and dog hair
22:33:53 <hsn> im sand person so im the dust
22:33:56 <hsn> ?
22:34:25 <rust_collector> i don't know? have you tried licking your elbow, and see if you taste dusty?
22:35:58 <hsn> also Halcyon .. i got a question to u
22:36:01 <rust_collector> what is happening over there today?
22:36:25 <hsn> from 0% to 100% how sure u r of god dont exist thingy :P
22:36:54 <hsn> also Ysjoelfir ^
22:38:46 <hsn> oh
22:39:08 <hsn> my college friend who now work on different company
22:39:58 <hsn> annoyed by his work mates that do lots of burping
22:42:07 <coppice> God is an arsehole post-grad running us as a simulation, but being an arsehole they haven't done much to chase out the bugs
22:42:28 <hsn> rust_collector, i've been doing this for last 2 weeks
22:42:35 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/Xp4Qgs.jpg
22:43:36 <hsn> they refers to "gods" ?
22:43:57 <rust_collector> every day?
22:44:35 <rust_collector> but... what about guy annoyed by burping?
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22:46:20 <hsn> rust_collector, every week start
22:46:24 <hsn> so 3 days off
22:46:24 <hsn> :D
22:46:34 <hsn> i'll be kicked soon
22:46:46 <hsn> fired
22:47:23 <rust_collector> hhmf. is that good or bad, I am thinking
22:47:29 <hsn> burping is grimy
22:47:43 <hsn> in front of ppl .. why would u do that
22:48:06 <rust_collector> I don't know... but did he do anything about it?
22:48:13 <hsn> u can do it ur self if u r alone .. if that satisfy u :D
22:48:17 <hsn> idk xD
22:48:31 <rust_collector> I suggest he starts spitting on them, every time they burp
22:49:01 <hsn> this is good
22:49:05 <hsn> i ll tell him
22:50:42 <hsn> rust_collector, do u know what "ICNIRP" is about ?
22:52:20 <rust_collector> nope, but as they use letters like that, I bet they use lots of time writing papers, and not really doing much?
22:52:31 <coppice> Not Gods. Just one post-grad is God. Their supervisor is way above God.
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22:54:15 <rust_collector> Guidance on determining compliance of exposure to pulsed fields and complex non-sinusoidal waveforms below 100 kHz..... gawd that sounds like a fun read
22:54:28 <hsn> gods of god meaning ? coppice ?
22:55:17 <coppice> what's wrong? you don't believe in post-grad?
22:56:26 <hsn> no but im trying to figure out the relation ship between a post-grad and the university
22:56:36 <hsn> that passed him
22:57:14 <hsn> i mean non-ionizing em .. = only heat .. no ?
22:57:25 <hsn> so its all about determining how much heat is bad ?
22:57:30 <hsn> :D
22:57:38 <rust_collector> all heat is bad
22:57:46 <hsn> not in winter
22:57:56 <rust_collector> especially in winter
22:57:59 <hsn> firebon
22:58:08 <coppice> Its a proper College of Divinity. They don't teach someone about God. They teach them to BE God, and provide simulation facilities at reasonable prices.
22:58:25 * hsn heats rust to remove oxide
22:58:25 <rust_collector> but yeah. if you got rid of all heat, things would be nice and stable
22:58:39 <hsn> yeah so who are "they" .. related to us and to god is my question
22:59:23 <coppice> They are also a simulation being run by a post-grad another level up
22:59:38 <hsn> does level up go to infinity ? :D
23:00:35 <coppice> no. it eventual reaches the back of a turtle, and its then turtles all the way to infinity
23:01:01 <hsn> ninja turtles ?
23:01:15 <hsn> its all related to those basterds ?
23:01:16 <hsn> https://www.icnirp.org/en/activities/news/news-article/sars-cov-2-and-uvc-lamps.html
23:02:40 <rust_collector> what=
23:03:22 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
23:03:26 * Ysjoelfir has bigmac salad
23:04:01 <hsn> These lamps are associated with a high risk of overexposure to UVC and injuries have been reported4.
23:04:08 <rust_collector> yes?
23:04:25 <rust_collector> wth man? you don't have to make us suffer just because of that
23:04:26 <hsn> Some smart ppl fought the virus wrong way
23:04:34 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sorry
23:04:45 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I have a problem with mr. lathe
23:05:04 <rust_collector> it is mrs lathe?
23:05:40 <rust_collector> well, would you expect anything else? someone always manages to hurt themselves or others, trying something they thought was a good idea
23:05:41 <Ysjoelfir> also, my Läkerol is empty ;_; but we can get it at amazon, yay! well, for a freakishly high price, but at least we can.
23:06:11 <rust_collector> I did not know that was not for sale down there
23:06:13 <Ysjoelfir> no, it is... a lead spindle which I can't get out to inspect its bearing, as its seizing from time to time
23:06:16 <hsn> thanks for reminding me that im hungry Ysjoelfir
23:06:41 <Ysjoelfir> (lead spindle is that thing you use for turning threads, right?)
23:06:45 <Ysjoelfir> you're welcome hsn :)
23:06:56 <rust_collector> i am making fries
23:07:11 <Ysjoelfir> those would go great with my salad
23:07:27 <rust_collector> we should ban people. that would help a lot. and anything organic.
23:07:34 <hsn> and i love fries
23:07:42 <hsn> did u send some on the 666 pallet ?
23:08:02 <rust_collector> the screw next to bed?
23:08:31 <Ysjoelfir> the big long one that goes along the bed, yes.
23:09:26 <rust_collector> hmm, the right side end of it is loose?
23:09:59 <rust_collector> if no one wakes up soon, I will eat all these waffles
23:10:44 <rust_collector> so it is just stuck in the gearbox?
23:10:52 <Ysjoelfir> nope, thats the side that seizes from time to time and I can't get out. it looks like the bearing is just a bushing and the leadscrew is held in place with what looks like a setscrew, but I suspect that there is a part broken off as I don't expect the leadscrew to be riding on the threads of the setscrew. I think it should have some kind of "nose". Also, from the top there is a brass part with an Ex-flathead which is just stuck.
23:11:34 <rust_collector> ah! well, have fun, lol
23:11:35 <Ysjoelfir> I think I need to remove said brass thing and whatever remains from the setscrew, but its pretty much impossible to reach :X
23:11:43 <hsn> U shouod ban ppl who sell uvc lamp for covid19 for generic ppl ..
23:12:05 <Ysjoelfir> as the setscrew is from the bottom, but covered by the foot of the lathe ._. So no chance I'll get a drill into that hole
23:12:20 <T3sl4> don't you know, you can just shine a bright light, or inject a little disinfectant?
23:13:00 <rust_collector> MMh, I am not so sure.... they should come with a warning, but... no, I think people should be able to buy things, even if they might get hurt by using them wrong
23:13:21 <Ysjoelfir> other than that it works great, have disassembled it completely, reassembled it, minimized clearnaces, now everything is nice and tight and lubricated and clean-ish.
23:14:10 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, personal lathe ?
23:14:16 <rust_collector> you could, if you ordered the chinese 200 drill spiral bit hole that cost around $1.36 they are actually so soft that you can drill curved holes
23:14:35 <Ysjoelfir> yes hsn. rusty, lol :D that could work! :P
23:15:05 <rust_collector> I don't remember what kind of lathe this was....
23:15:13 <Ysjoelfir> mine?
23:15:17 <rust_collector> yes
23:15:26 <Ysjoelfir> Proxxon PD360.
23:15:29 <rust_collector> was it a proxxon
23:15:32 <rust_collector> right
23:15:44 <Ysjoelfir> can't find any exploded diagrams of that sadly, and the PD400 and PD250 have completely different bearings
23:15:47 <hsn> neat
23:17:44 <rust_collector> Neue Handräder für die Proxxon PD360 Drehmaschine Beats Headphones, Over Ear Headphones
23:18:05 <Ysjoelfir> thats a great website, but without the headphones :P
23:18:12 <Ysjoelfir> http://www.metallmodellbau.de/PROXXON-PD360-Handraeder.php
23:19:36 <hsn> rust_collector, its the stupid law .. that made every product manual to have "danger" and yellow triangle ..
23:19:44 <hsn> which made ppl not taking it seriously :D
23:20:20 <rust_collector> if you buy a thing, you should figure out how to use it, before you do.
23:20:47 <rust_collector> but yes, all the dumb warnings are a problem
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23:22:32 <hsn> rust_collector, so u say if u dont know how to use a computer .. u shouldnt buy one
23:22:32 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. horse
23:23:20 <rust_collector> I say that most people would not somehow manage to eat the computer, and have stomach issues
23:24:04 <rust_collector> I think it is pretty difficult to get seriously hurt by a computer
23:24:39 <rust_collector> unless you count getting a papercut on the "warnins sharp edges" sticker
23:26:06 <hsn> so u mean "if you buy potintional harmful / easy to missuse thing"
23:27:05 <Kuschelpony> Hallo
23:28:12 <rust_collector> if you buy a knife, you should be able to figure out that it has a sharp edge somewhere. but those lights... yeah, they should probably come with a warning
23:29:29 <hsn> yes ... now imagine the law ppl start annoying knife manufacturer for all injuries .. and this force the knife manufacturer to put the stupiid warning ..
23:29:36 <hsn> ppl wont take warnings seriously by then
23:30:00 <rust_collector> right
23:30:17 <hsn> lets distroy world lawyers and build a new system
23:31:05 Quit: PsySc0rpi0n ([email protected]) EOF from client
23:31:08 <coppice> lawyers should come with a warning sticker
23:31:16 <rust_collector> same as blinking lights on the road. they used to mean something was happening, but now it can also mean that some farmer is running his tractor 700 meters out in a field, but he paid for that blinking lamp, so yeah he is going to use it
23:31:32 <hsn> hallo ich bin hasan Kuschelpony
23:31:48 * Ysjoelfir hands hsn a comma
23:31:48 <rust_collector> that is a long name
23:31:51 <hsn> du bist pony ?
23:31:59 <Kuschelpony> Hallo Hasan
23:32:16 <hsn> danke, Ysjoelfir
23:32:17 <Kuschelpony> Ja, aber dem Kanal hier ehr aus Elektronikinteresse beigewtreten
23:32:27 <hsn> woooo ... ok back to english
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23:32:40 <Kuschelpony> yes
23:32:52 <hsn> niiiice .. farmer ... nice 700 meters
23:32:55 <hsn> i wanna landd :(
23:33:07 <hsn> me arab
23:33:21 <hsn> i joined for troll intrest
23:33:25 <Ysjoelfir> xD
23:33:45 <Ysjoelfir> hsn wanted to learn german, so I suggested him to try Duolingo. And it looks like he's enjoying it :)
23:34:06 <rust_collector> if you do not mind trees, and don't need anything other than trees... come and get some
23:34:08 <rust_collector> he is also terrified that someone will send dicks or radio stuff
23:34:11 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, intrestengly .. i only know few words .. and keep cycling between them :D
23:34:22 <hsn> rust_collector, 666 dicks
23:34:32 <hsn> i want land in my country :D
23:34:48 <hsn> its not "he ordered dicks" jail period
23:34:56 <rust_collector> it would be, if you got it?
23:35:04 <hsn> its "he ordered and wants to trade in local blackmarket"
23:35:11 <hsn> jail period
23:35:14 <Kuschelpony> so lets repeat in english, i am a pony (in another part of my life) but as this subculture is not the friendliest place, i decided to join an electronic channel for my old electronic hobby to fill the cold dark months
23:35:32 <hsn> if i moved?
23:35:49 <rust_collector> yep
23:35:59 <rust_collector> then it would be your country
23:36:54 <hsn> if i dont have some good social live here .. there is nothing for me to do here .. its hot .. no future .. slavery .. etc
23:36:59 <hsn> life
23:37:08 <hsn> social means the whole family :D
23:37:12 <Ysjoelfir> oh realy, is it? I thought said subculture was actually very.... family-like to each other? But meh, you know, you can grow kind of a second family here :) We all are nice people.
23:37:21 <Ysjoelfir> and hsn, thats ok. if you go on those will get more and more
23:37:44 <rust_collector> heh, that makes me think of "look at my horse..."
23:37:53 <Ysjoelfir> oh I love that one :D
23:37:57 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/sn1FJZEnURVpwi8s5
23:39:12 <Kuschelpony> Ysjoelfir, there are two subcultures, the Furry 8where i am also part of and they are stil lto some part the family) and the BDSM scene which is in germany extremely closed conservative
23:39:13 <rust_collector> mmh, but... ok, friendly or not... is it more like a summer thing?
23:39:29 <hsn> anyway its what they say "ur dicision" i guess ..
23:40:23 <rust_collector> as you had to do something else in the winter
23:40:36 <Kuschelpony> it is more of an the time when you could hope you might find people to meet and go out and prance around is over, and now the half of the year where you can only work alone in you home lab is here
23:41:28 <Kuschelpony> was already an social issue before the Coronavirus, but now its considerably magnified
23:42:20 <hsn> Kuschelpony, fck corona
23:42:37 <hsn> yesterday was corona birth day
23:42:39 <rust_collector> fsck hsn
23:42:41 <Kuschelpony> hsn ,better not or the virus spreads even more :)
23:42:56 <Ysjoelfir> Aaah, I see. I can immagine how that could be a bit unpleasant if you don't "comply" with the ideology. But as I said, you are very welcome to stay here :D
23:43:14 <Ysjoelfir> (We need to strengthen the german influence!!!) xD
23:43:41 <Kuschelpony> yes
23:43:51 <rust_collector> that, and I like images of short horses in my head, when I see you mane
23:43:59 <Kuschelpony> but please excuse if i turnsilent and go offline soon again, will be back for more in the evening
23:44:00 <rust_collector> oooh, name
23:44:08 <hsn> Kuschelpony, do u know amongUs?
23:44:35 * hsn bashes rust_collector
23:44:51 <Kuschelpony> rust_collector, well, its not somethign i want to go deeper here, maybe you take a look at Furnet IRC, but you can see me literally as living plush pony :)
23:44:57 <hsn> > fsck /dev/rust0
23:44:57 <Kuschelpony> hsn, i dont know
23:49:35 <rust_collector> I just can not help it, when I see your name, I see images of a small horse with short legs, lol
23:50:34 <rust_collector> like a shortened dachs, just in horse form
23:50:37 <Ysjoelfir> isn't that literaly how a pony looks like? :D
23:50:49 <rust_collector> extra short legs, I guess
23:51:02 <Kuschelpony> not exactly, you describe a dawrf horse (genetic mishap)
23:51:11 <rust_collector> yeah.
23:51:29 <Kuschelpony> a pony has long thin legs but overall smaller body and some temperemental differences
23:53:10 <rust_collector> I am not sure where the images come from, but I sort of like it. ta da DA! clopclop clopclop clop clop
23:53:14 <T3sl4> https://gfycat.com/criminalunlawfulemperorpenguin
23:54:03 <rust_collector> oh no. now I get coconut shell images
23:55:25 <Ysjoelfir> NNNNNNNIIIIIIIII!!!
23:55:27 * Ysjoelfir pokes T3sl4
23:57:34 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, what a strange chuck. https://youtu.be/u71kzF1XfQM?t=2335
23:57:42 <hsn> die katze is die mutter
23:57:54 <hsn> ist
23:57:56 <Kuschelpony> just to say, when someone has a real interest in the topics around this i am open to discuss this in more privacy (like on Jabber for example)
23:57:58 <Ysjoelfir> looks ideal to use with those square shaft wood brace bits, lol :P