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00:02 <K> that is something you could bludgeon a person with
00:27 <rust_collector> the handle thing, yes
02:04 <rust_collector> https://i2.wp.com/learnantiques.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/L.M.-Ericsson-Skeleton-Telephone-No.-370AC100-c.1890.jpg?resize=300%2C300&ssl=1
02:12 <rust_collector> that is neat
02:26 <K> yeah
02:34 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely :D
09:47 <rust_collector> ok, I give up
09:51 <rust_collector> time for a nap
09:55 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy :)
10:00 <electrohead> o/
10:04 <rust_collector> hoi
10:08 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
10:16 * Ampera hugs electrohead, rust_collector, and Ysjoelfir 
10:23 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr current
10:28 * Ampera gives K some prosciutto
10:33 <rust_collector> oh goodie, now I can sleep
10:38 <Ampera> good night
10:40 <K> oh, some meat
10:41 <Ampera> have fun
10:52 * electrohead hugs back
23:42 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
28:00 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, this photo of Mars was just taken from Earth, the best ever taken. From the C2PU d ' Azur Observatory's 1 meter C2PU telescope. cc @thunderf00t https://t.co/w4QjyekHgS
32:54 <electrohead> I'm doing
35:05 <steve30> Ysjoelfir, my Asterisk server is currently powering my GPO 746 and my modern Snom IP phone
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37:21 <Ysjoelfir> hah, I assumed you would use such a thing :D
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38:02 <Ysjoelfir> I was thinking I might install some phone server software on my NAS when I rebuilt that thing, as my solution I have now is a bit... working, but not working great.
38:26 <Ampera> your fritz box on the fritz?
38:45 <Ysjoelfir> Nah, the Fritz!Box is stupid when you try to add SIP phones.
39:33 <Ysjoelfir> you can only add one reliably, but I need two. and to add one you have to delete all other entries in the phone menu and add the SIP first and then re-add all others, which is just stupidly buggy and I want to get rid of that
40:25 <Ysjoelfir> I have 2 SIP phones, 1 Analog Fax + 1 Analog phone daisychained, and one DECT Phone, and three Numbers. I want it like that: Fax + Analog Phone have number 1, SIP1 and DECT has Number 2, SIP1 and SIP2 have Number 3.
40:28 <Ampera> I use Asterisk, but I don't use SIP at all
40:45 <Ysjoelfir> and off course I want to be able to use intercom
40:46 <Ampera> it's effectively an overly complicated analog exchange
40:52 <Ampera> but digital
41:16 <Ampera> it's a PBX with three internal lines and one external line
41:28 <Ampera> and pulse to DTMS conversion
41:30 <Ysjoelfir> all that isn't possible with my solution right now, having the SIPs connected directly to my ISP, the fax and the DECT to the Fritz!Box.
41:32 <steve30> My Asterisk is running on a Raspberry Pi
41:50 <Ampera> my Asterisk is running on a dedicated dual core AMD box (A4 APU or something) running FreeBSD
42:29 <Ysjoelfir> I would run that on my new NAS, which will be basically my old workstation based on y ryzen 1700x
42:31 <K> but is your refredgerator running?
42:37 <Ysjoelfir> yes
42:39 <Ysjoelfir> all four
42:56 <K> you better catch it before they all run away!
42:58 <K> to canada!
43:29 <K> and now im hungry.
43:43 <electrohead> asterisk is amazing
44:01 <Ampera> amazingly stupid
44:06 <Ampera> fuck the configs for it are a PAIN IN THE ASS
44:10 <Ampera> the documentation is SHIT
44:17 <Ampera> it makes me wanna FUCK
45:24 <Ysjoelfir> I FUCKED the last week every day. My dick feels numb now
45:36 <Ampera> FUCK the SHIT and SHIT the FUCK
49:04 <electrohead> lmfao
55:26 <K> you fuckers.
55:42 <Ampera> K, watch your fucking language.
55:51 <K> i fuckin will!
56:08 <Ampera> no fuckin problem then
26:25 <Lord_of_nothing_> omg...
26:41 <Lord_of_nothing_> Fuck the fucking fuckers!!!
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22:37 <hsn> Haha https://www.instagram.com/p/CHDRx8gl2_t/?igshid=60n88z1pbs0j
22:45 <hsn> Fast before armepra comes
28:20 <K> armpera bhrrr
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48:11 * arch rubs boogers on T3sl4's shirt
04:20 * T3sl4 rubs shirt on arch
07:02 <arch> T3sl4 has given arch shirt. arch is freeeeee
07:32 <T3sl4> wait give me that back
07:36 * T3sl4 gives arch a crunchy sock
08:11 * arch puts it in a stew
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18:14 <Nothing\> man that's kinda scary
18:24 <Nothing\> i found both sodium AND potassium on amazon
18:25 <Nothing\> pure
18:31 <Nothing\> or close to it
19:00 <Nothing\> yet i can't find any ammonium perchlorate
19:05 <Nothing\> or any perchlorates
19:42 <Nothing\> you can buy chemicals that explode on contact with water, chemicals that explode on contact with glycerine, but god help you if you want to find a strong oxidizer
19:53 <Nothing\> even peroxide i could only find up to 12%
20:36 <Nothing\> which reminds me, now that i have pure isopropanol, i should add my purified peroxide i made to it and light it on fire
21:56 <Nothing\> i need some of those miniature pie plates to use as reaction vessels though. As is standard operating procedure for backyard chemists.
23:02 <Nothing\> though i've got some pretty grody beakers that i wouldn't have a problem with breaking
23:12 <Nothing\> or soiling
24:09 <Nothing\> i mean, i could just wash them. but that's too much work.
25:45 <T3sl4> i still have several kg of chlorates from back when i was doing electrolysis
26:30 <Nothing\> can you do electrolysis with AC? or do you need DC?
26:55 <Nothing\> cuz i always imagined with AC, the products would just form an equilibrium and just keep going back and forth, if that makes sense
28:16 <Nothing\> that's one reason i've never used mains for electrolysis. The other being safety since my set up involved having my hands in the water to catch the gases
28:41 <Nothing\> and i was too ignorant at the time to know how to do it safely
28:46 <Nothing\> probably still am
29:26 <Nothing\> i'm certain i've seen people use AC for electrolysis cells before though
35:10 <T3sl4> right, it mostly balances out
35:52 <T3sl4> possibly anodizing can be done with AC, that was once an easy way to make a shitty rectifier
37:02 <T3sl4> http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/els/borax-el.htm
37:45 <Nothing\> damn, i'm watching a short documentary about the sprint missile
38:27 <Nothing\> it accellerated so fast that there was a layer of plasma surrounding the nose from the heat, which was 6200 (not sure if f or c)
38:37 <Nothing\> cuz it went from 0 to mach 10 in 15 seconds
39:00 <Nothing\> meant to shoot down ICBMs below 37 miles
39:22 <Nothing\> hence the requirement for great deals of velocity, or "need for speed"
40:08 <Nothing\> T3sl4, interesting. i only ever gave thought to electrolysis of water or salt water
40:29 <Nothing\> but there are easier ways to generate chlorine, like a bonefide chlorine cell with TCCA
40:44 <Nothing\> and i forget what acid they use to generate the chlorine
40:51 <T3sl4> you need an inert anode to do that, most metals just corrode
41:01 <Nothing\> i wanna say hcl
41:03 <T3sl4> which is a good way to make copper oxide
41:08 <Nothing\> or sulphuric
41:24 <T3sl4> either acid works on TCCA or hypochlorite, yea
42:17 <Nothing\> ah, been a while since i've watched anything requiring a chlorine generator. but vaguely remember from an explosions and fire video
42:24 <Nothing\> or maybe it was his other channel
43:02 <Nothing\> i believe he was making some variety of cubane
43:15 <Nothing\> or a precursor to it
43:27 <Nothing\> lately he's been working with it a bunch
45:48 <T3sl4> yeah he's working on it
53:57 <Nothing\> that's it
54:23 <Nothing\> meds have been screwing with my memory lately, i'd really like to get off of them
54:47 <Lord_of_nothing_> so
54:48 <Nothing\> they work great for anxiety though
54:55 <Lord_of_nothing_> does anyone here served there pervert needs?
54:57 * Nothing\ bows to Lord_of_nothing_ 
55:13 <Nothing\> no, not in quite some time
55:23 <Nothing\> i no longer masturbate, really
55:41 <Nothing\> except for utilitarian purposes to keep a healthy prostate and what not maybe once or twice a month
56:09 <Nothing\> i can't even remember the last time i watched porn
56:17 <Nothing\> months and months ago, that's for sure
57:23 <Nothing\> it's great, lets me use my time and energy for other things
16:10 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
23:25 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
23:33 <Nothing\> hey buddy, how's it going?
23:34 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
23:44 <Nothing\> i'm not too bad
23:47 <Ampera> my neighbor threatened to smash my dad's face in today
23:53 <Ampera> besides that not much
23:54 <Nothing\> finally got a good sleep, had a few good poops
24:10 <Nothing\> oh, lovely
24:15 <Nothing\> i had a neighbour like that once
24:28 <Ampera> what happened is they ordered food to be delivered and typed in the wrong damn address
24:33 <Ampera> so it went to us instead of them
24:42 <Nothing\> he thought my brother and his friend were throwing snowballs at his house, so he attacked my brother's friend with a pool cue
24:48 <Ampera> I'm not sure exactly what happened, but you can imagine what happened. I wasn't there, and my dad's face remains not punched in
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25:30 <Nothing\> that seems quite a petty thing to go to such lengths over
25:38 <Ampera> I was later told that apparently they haven't paid their rent in about a year and they regularly beat their children
25:52 <Nothing\> :(
26:03 <Ampera> and they can't be evicted because of the statewide eviction ban that's been in place and will be until next year
26:23 <Nothing\> i dunno what's worse, chomos, or people who beat children
26:39 <Ampera> that's a two family and we know the reasonably nice guy who lives in the other apartment in that house
26:42 <Ampera> must suck for him
26:50 <Nothing\> probably chomos cuz you still get the physical accosting plus the other shit
26:50 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
26:57 <Ampera> oh hi T3sl4 thought you hated me
27:06 <Ampera> get over that yet?
27:09 <Nothing\> eitherway i can't stand for any sort of child abuse
27:39 <Ampera> Nothing\, most of our neighbors are really nice, but for whatever reason some proper trash has moved in recently
27:41 <Nothing\> i read a story once about a 15 year old who ran away from home and was kidnapped into the child sex trafficking industry or whatever
27:46 <T3sl4> so welcoming of you
27:48 <Nothing\> i could only read half of the article
27:58 <Nothing\> i was shaking and physically ill by that point
28:11 <Nothing\> i decided that was as much as i want to know about it all
28:20 <Ampera> T3sl4, storming out like a little shit and being a dick about politics wasn't exactly great.
28:23 <Nothing\> after that point, anyways
28:39 <Ampera> look, if you just want to put politics down that's fine, but you engage in this shit and then get upset when the conversations don't go your way
29:05 <Nothing\> Ampera, that sucks man. it's like my neighbours. as soon as they moved in, one of their 4 dogs had puppies so i had to listen to them constantly barking
29:27 <Ampera> Nothing\, I don't care if dogs are barking, whatever
29:31 <Ampera> there's way worse
29:36 <Nothing\> i actually called bylaw enforcement on them cuz the law says you can only have a max of 3 dogs per household but it didn't seem to do any good
29:40 <Ampera> just makes me wish I had an actual means of defending myself against people like this
29:44 <Nothing\> plus i felt kinda shitty doing it
29:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, indeed
30:10 <Nothing\> i lived in a motel for a few months and would often have to listen to my neighbour beating his wife/gf
30:19 <Nothing\> had to call the cops on them more than a few times
30:37 <Ampera> I find it depressing that you have to call cops on people like that more than once
30:51 <Nothing\> yup, she just wasn't going anywhere
31:01 <Ampera> our cops are probably useless anyways, I wonder if they'd even get involved
31:13 <Nothing\> i didn't know them personally. so i dunno if she had nowhere to go or if she was scared or too attached or what
31:17 <Nothing\> but it was sad
31:23 <Ampera> some cops abuse their power, everyone loses their shit, and now nobody can do their job
31:25 <T3sl4> Ampera, i haven't actually blocked you but you aren't making a great case against it
31:59 <Nothing\> T3sl4, well it's a step in the right direction i think
32:18 <Nothing\> it's nice when everyone can be cordial with one another and have a good time chatting here as they intended to do
32:46 <Ampera> T3sl4, is that supposed to make me feel bad about this? I like you, have always enjoyed talking with you, but I'm not gonna just pretend like you weren't a complete ass to me
33:21 <Nothing\> yeah, let bygones be bygones and make a fresh start. i'm sure things will go better.
33:28 <Ampera> Every single time we have a conversation that gets vaguely political you act like I'm a complete dipshit and inferior of your actual knowledge.
34:02 <Ampera> but as I said, if you just want to make an unwritten rule to just not talk about politics I'm fine with that
34:06 <Polesch> When will Trump's victory be announced?
34:23 <Ampera> Polesch, the election results are a complete clusterfuck this time because why won't they be
34:23 <Nothing\> chances are some of it was down to communication errors. i find a common source of strife online is just misunderstanding the emotional context of something that was said just because of how much more difficult it is to do that via text than face to face or even with voice.
34:44 <MrMobodies> Hello
34:58 <Ampera> A lot of people have done mail-in ballots this time around, which aren't counted in a lot of states until after elections close
34:59 <MrMobodies> ah sorry reading above
35:08 <Nothing\> Polesch, i read it will probably take a few days due to covid-19 and the mail-in ballots. plus people challenging their ballots being cancelled for a variety of reasons
35:26 <Nothing\> so help me out here, yanks
35:31 <Ampera> and oh boy there's no possible way that could /ever/ become something people turn into a problem.
35:46 <Nothing\> if you only need 270 votes from the electoral college to get in
35:54 <Nothing\> what good is the popular vote?
35:58 <Ampera> It's not.
36:02 <Ampera> There is no popular vote
36:28 <Nothing\> there was almost an election here the other week
36:42 <Nothing\> there was a vote of non-confidence against trudeau, but he beat it
36:50 <Nothing\> had he not, there would have been an election
36:56 <Ampera> yeah so here's the deal, 538/2 is 269
37:01 <Ampera> so there can be a tie
37:09 <Ampera> so yeah 270 to win
37:37 <Ampera> There is a movement making its way through various state congresses to eliminate the electoral college system
37:48 <T3sl4> hence "first past the post" because once that threshold is guaranteed, no point in further counting
37:48 <Nothing\> basically a vote of non-confidence is the other parties saying they don't think the leaders are doing a good job. so if the leaders lose the vote, there's a new election and they can potentially get voted out. or get voted down to a minority government.
37:54 <Ampera> part of the point of the electoral system is to bridge the urban vs rural divide
38:14 <Ampera> CGP Grey has a great video on why it doesn't exactly work out like that
38:28 <Ampera> yeah that doesn't happen here
38:29 <MrMobodies> just read the aggression to your family above. Sad they did that.
38:30 <T3sl4> Ampera, or as it was known at the time, the slave vs non-slave divide
38:43 <Ampera> T3sl4, are you trying to start an argument?
38:53 <Nothing\> and a minority government, apparently, is where no political party has the majority of seats in the legislature
39:18 <Nothing\> not sure what the implications of that are
39:30 <Nothing\> tbh i know more about american law and politics than canadian lol
39:48 <Ampera> MrMobodies, I don't think that has anything to do with the election
39:51 <Ampera> they're just deadbeat trash
39:52 <T3sl4> Ampera, it is well known among historians, political scientists etc that slavery motivated a lot of janky aspects of our system
40:01 <T3sl4> i'm not sure how you feel that's an argument
40:14 <MrMobodies> oh sorry I shouldn't have mentioned above.
40:25 <Ampera> T3sl4, if you're just gonna keep doing this shit please block me already so I don't have to deal with it
41:08 <Nothing\> i can see things are tense, so i will attempt to change the subject
41:16 <Ampera> Even at the time of the constitution's drafting there was a slavery/anti-slavery divide, so while there was influence there was also counter-influence
41:18 <Nothing\> did you guys know cats apparently can't taste sweetness.
41:37 <Ampera> and the argument isn't why was it made back then but if it's still necessary today, and what the point of it is
41:38 <Nothing\> they require 2 types of taste receptors to taste sweetness but lack one of the two
41:48 <T3sl4> is that why steve30 takes his coffee without sugar
41:53 <Nothing\> yet my cats in the past have still gone nuts for candy. especially cotton candy
42:00 <Ampera> Rural and urban populations have vastly different political desires and requirements, a strife that has existed for as long as the US has existed
42:19 <Ampera> even in states where slavery had been voluntarily illegalized
42:40 <Nothing\> i'm thinking, maybe they can't taste the actual sweetness with their tongue. but they can still get the variety of aromas that make foods tasty in other ways.
42:50 <Nothing\> especially with their heightened sense of smell.
42:54 <T3sl4> also sweets often have a lot of fat
43:07 <Nothing\> yeah, plus it's not good for their teeth
43:12 <T3sl4> though obviously not the cotton candy kind :P
43:45 <Nothing\> cuz they get the plaque and bacteria. but no real brushing or dental hygiene unless you specifically do it yourself.
44:12 <MrMobodies> Forgive me if mis understand but I thought they moved slave trade to China in another form and trump was trying to put a stop to that by bringing local jobs back to the states
44:29 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, hell if i know
44:37 <Ampera> MrMobodies, that's a take if I ever heard one
44:45 <Nothing\> don't ask me, i'm just a product of the american education system!
44:48 <Ampera> nobody really knows what Trump is doing
44:58 <Ampera> Trump doesn't even really seem to know
45:01 <T3sl4> well, wage slavery, a softer kind you could say
45:03 <Ampera> he just sorta does stuff
45:10 <T3sl4> but outsourcing has been going on for /years/
45:17 <Nothing\> yup
45:24 <Nothing\> i saw it myself first hand
45:29 <Nothing\> with the call centers i worked at
45:53 <Some_Person> Part of the reason the US seems so janky today is that the federal government was intended to *not* be very powerful. Power was intended to rest with the states, and things like highly variable election procedures and the Electoral College reflect that
45:57 <Nothing\> the one had an office based in manilla and eventually closed the office here
46:13 <Nothing\> i'm not sure if the company went under or if it moved over seas
46:18 <Nothing\> pretty sure tehy went under tbh
46:40 <Nothing\> lol yeah
46:49 <Nothing\> defunct since august 2007
47:41 <Ampera> "This is the first presidential election in which both the major candidates are over 70." -Wikipedia
47:46 <Ampera> that's the problem with this election
48:00 <Ampera> we have the choice between expired produce and expired produce
48:14 <Nothing\> ah, they sold the company
48:46 <Nothing\> Ampera, i can't say anything about biden, but i have no doubt that trump is subject to some level of dementia
48:54 <Some_Person> Eh... I don't really have a problem with an older president
48:57 <Nothing\> dubya seemed to be as well
49:03 <Ampera> I'd say Biden is worse in the dementia department
49:16 <Nothing\> yeah i dunno much about him
49:16 <Ampera> I get the impression he has no clue where he is and what he's doing
49:18 <T3sl4> Ampera, how many speeches of his have you watched?
49:26 <Nothing\> Ampera, and trump does?
49:28 <Ampera> in fairness I haven't watched anything political
49:29 <T3sl4> and from what sources have you seen them mentioned?
49:30 <MrMobodies> I found it unpleasant seeing them argue on television.
49:39 <Ampera> I derive my opinions from whatever
49:46 <Ampera> in the end I don't give a shit about any of it
49:52 <Ampera> discussions are philosophical meant for fun
49:52 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, isn't that the point of political debates?
49:58 <Some_Person> TBH... I don't see the idea that Biden is senile or has dimentia
50:10 <MrMobodies> well trump wouldn't give biden a chance to speak
50:23 <Nothing\> that's not surprising
50:32 <MrMobodies> he said something like "Shut up you stupid little man" that sort of thing
50:33 <Ampera> I have bits and pieces of both because I seriously do not want to surrender my life to politics and end up pissed and stressed by it
50:43 <T3sl4> right but then if your opinion doesn't count for "shit", why get mad about it
50:46 <Some_Person> Trump, on the other hand, seems to be an asshole who at times barely knows what he's talking about
50:54 <T3sl4> why drive people to anger over things you have no interest in
50:55 <Ampera> T3sl4, please stop.
51:11 <Nothing\> Some_Person, i've come to expect that everything trump says is a lie on some level
51:16 <T3sl4> Some_Person: he's rather better spoken that the opposition, that's for sure
51:17 <Ampera> I'm driving nobody to anger, you're the one who can't sit the fuck down and not be an ass about things
51:25 <Some_Person> T3sl4: I disagree
51:33 <Nothing\> twitter even had to put warnings on his posts saying their content may not be factually correct
51:35 <T3sl4> biden i mean is
51:41 <Nothing\> he wasn't happy about that one
51:45 <Some_Person> T3sl4: Ah, sorry, in that case, yeah
52:47 <T3sl4> didn't see your second message :P
52:51 <electrohead> o/
52:56 * T3sl4 heads hug
52:59 <T3sl4> erm, wait
53:00 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
53:04 <Nothing\> what's up
53:06 <electrohead> hey guys
53:17 <electrohead> nothing too much, at work chilling at stuff
53:19 <electrohead> and*
53:24 <Nothing\> right on
53:32 <electrohead> not being able to type properly as well, it seems :P
53:39 <T3sl4> works either way tbh
53:43 <MrMobodies> my thumbs seems to move
53:45 * electrohead heads T3sl4
53:46 <Nothing\> as long as it's coherent
53:49 <MrMobodies> involuntarily
53:59 <MrMobodies> left hand thumb
54:03 <MrMobodies> oops right sorry
54:15 <Nothing\> i wonder if in 10-20 years they'll have cellphone typing classes in school
54:23 <T3sl4> MrMobodies, benign tremor, essential tremor, or just a tic that started today or whenever?
54:29 <electrohead> MrMobodies: for me, it's all 10 fingers haha
54:36 <Nothing\> lol typing was the easiest credit i ever got
54:37 <MrMobodies> yesterday
54:40 <Some_Person> https://www.c-span.org/video/standalone/?c4546796/user-clip-donald-trump-sentence -- if you can derive any meaning whatsoever out of this clip from a Trump speech, props to you
54:46 <Nothing\> cuz i could type twice as fast as my teacher
55:06 <Nothing\> she just made me type out the alphabet and a few passages and there was my credit for typing
55:32 <MrMobodies> I am not feeling to good. Overworked lots of things to do but I am resting for a bit now
55:45 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, aww i'm sorry to hear that man
55:58 <MrMobodies> had a rotten couple of days and my phone package went up by £15 so that turned out to be an error
55:59 <Nothing\> exhaustion and especially sleep deprivation can be hellish
56:00 <T3sl4> self care is important
56:03 <Ampera> I'm particularly stressed because of my neighbor almost assaulting my dad
56:13 <MrMobodies> oh yes, that is worse
56:21 <Nothing\> T3sl4, there's a wellness saying they had in NA
56:26 <Ampera> and having to deal with one of my friends deciding to be an asshole about politics
56:26 <MrMobodies> Not very nice person to do that
56:27 <Nothing\> or acronym
56:27 <electrohead> Ampera: do a bunch of us need to show up and teach him who's boss?
56:30 <Nothing\> it was HALT
56:39 <electrohead> :p
56:39 <Nothing\> Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired
56:40 <Ampera> electrohead, probably
56:45 <MrMobodies> if someone said that to me I'd ask "What good will that do to smash a face in?"
56:57 <electrohead> speaking of, though - any riots yet up in your neck of the woods, Ampera?
56:59 <Nothing\> and being any of those would generally put a person in a negative state of being
57:01 <electrohead> none here yet, heh
57:03 <Ampera> electrohead, yet?
57:06 <Nothing\> physically and mentally
57:08 <Ampera> I doubt we'll get anything
57:31 <Ampera> Albany had some nonsense during the initial bout of protests this year, but Albany is a ghetto and the seat of state government
57:48 <T3sl4> i should go for a walk rn, just because i need a walk but also walk by the polling place and see how it's going. i wonder if they'll give me a sticker if i say i voted by absentee
58:09 <Nothing\> it's probably packed
58:18 <Nothing\> remember the lines last election?
58:18 <Ampera> That being said I would not want to leave my house for an evening stroll
58:34 <MrMobodies> stroll?
58:42 <Some_Person> I haven't heard of anything happening here, thankfully
58:46 <MrMobodies> oh evening walk
58:58 <Ampera> The best means I have to my own defense is my air rifle, I just hope one of my neighbors doesn't get any ideas.
59:09 <Ampera> but I'm just stressed and annoyed so I tend to get paranoid when that happens
59:19 <MrMobodies> why is your neigbour so nasty?
59:21 <Ampera> haven't felt like this since I nearly got doxxed years ago
59:22 <Nothing\> i'm spoon
59:26 <Ampera> MrMobodies, who the hell knows why
59:31 <Some_Person> A group of Republicans is trying to get my county's drive-thru votes thrown out though. So far, the courts keeps rejecting their case
59:51 <MrMobodies> Well I'm sorry you are in that position.
59:55 <Nothing\> Ampera, maybe he's in the process of castrating himself and has a rubber band tied tightly around his testicles
00:04 <Ampera> I heard at work today that around 450 lawsuits related to voting are going on in the nation
00:14 <Nothing\> that's crazy
00:18 <Ampera> Nothing\, no I've seen them around quite a bit
00:21 <Ampera> they're just terrible people
00:38 <Nothing\> maybe they're lactose intolerant
00:56 <Ampera> selfish assholes who would probably be the kind to cheat the elderly
01:04 <Nothing\> i hate those sorts
01:10 <Nothing\> well, not hate
01:12 <T3sl4> Nothing\: https://youtu.be/rcm-J7lQT3w?t=54
01:17 <Nothing\> but very much dislike and despise
01:24 <Ampera> No hate is a good word, I hate these people.
01:45 <Ampera> I know they're one of the chief people on the street who have started fights, screaming matches, and breaking people's property
01:46 <Nothing\> lol T3sl4 i forgot about that show
01:58 <T3sl4> i hardly remember it, but it's hard to forget
01:59 <Ampera> I think I even saw their car get repossessed
02:01 <T3sl4> SPOOOON!!!!!
02:11 <Nothing\> i should dl the series
02:32 <Nothing\> my only spoon related thing is "muh spoon is too big!"
02:47 <electrohead> I AM A BANANA
02:54 <Nothing\> lol you beat me to it
02:54 <electrohead> I mean
02:56 <electrohead> hey
02:58 <electrohead> lol
03:01 <Nothing\> i was wondering if i should do it or not
03:17 <electrohead> I haven't seen that in some time, now I need to watch it all over again
03:22 <MrMobodies> Tremor; caffinated drinks(likely in my case) and stress
03:25 <T3sl4> electrohead, https://i.imgur.com/6AtebqV.gif
03:28 <electrohead> have you seen "Billy's balloon"?
03:34 <Nothing\> indeed, it's much longer than you realize
03:37 <Nothing\> i've not
04:23 <electrohead> T3sl4: banana.
04:36 <electrohead> Nothing\: it's by the same person, Don Hertzfeldt
04:40 <Nothing\> i've had it's a long way to tiperary stuck in my head for like the last week
04:43 <Some_Person> I'm guessing the drive-thru voting case might even make it to the Supreme Court, although I doubt they'll throw the votes out considering that all other courts thus far have refused to do so.
04:44 <electrohead> think I spelled his last name correctly
04:52 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/jmZz8Kk
05:03 <Some_Person> Before today, about 127,000 votes were cast that way
05:13 <Nothing\> i watched it's the great pumpkin charlie brown and while snoopy was being a WWI fighter ace, shroder played it on his piano
05:32 <Nothing\> and i haven't been able to get it out of my head ever since
06:40 <Some_Person> The only effect it's had so far is that all drive-thru voting locations except one are closed today, because the last judge who encountered the case pointed out that state law requires for in-person voting on election day to take place in a "building", rather than just a "structure" as is required for early voting
11:42 <DHess_US> Huh, bitchute down?
12:52 <electrohead> seems to be, DHess_US
13:07 <DHess_US> Some_Person, they don't throw the votes out because the punishes the voter who couldn't know. What they *do* do is invalidate the election, which means throw *all* the votes out.
13:30 <Some_Person> DHess_US: I really can't see that happening
13:53 <DHess_US> Some_Person, there are three remedies, and invalidating the election is the most fair one.
14:20 <Some_Person> DHess_US: This would be an extremely dumb reason to invalidate an election
14:30 <DHess_US> Usually that just means holding the election again but of course that doesn't apply to a presidential election.
14:54 <DHess_US> No, but it would be even dumber to enforce either of the other two remedies.
15:35 <Some_Person> So far, as far as anyone has decided legally, the procedures used in Harris County do not violate the law anyway
16:42 <DHess_US> I was just going to ask if you were refering to Harris County.
16:51 <Some_Person> DHess_US: Yup. I live in Houston
17:14 <DHess_US> Nobody has decided anything.
17:37 <Some_Person> DHess_US: The Texas Supreme Court has ruled on it 3 times. It's being challenged in federal court now.
17:51 <DHess_US> The Texas Supreme Court denied a writ of mandamus which means they did not rule.
18:55 <DHess_US> And here is a recent example where exactly what I said happened, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/nyregion/nj-election-mail-voting-fraud.html
19:54 <Halcyon> Mew
20:03 <T3sl4> stupid Halcyon
20:19 <Halcyon> :P
20:32 <Ampera> hi Halcyon. how do
20:44 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
21:21 <Halcyon> \o/
21:23 <Halcyon> Hugs for all
22:05 <electrohead> *hugs*
22:44 <DHess_US> Some_Person, https://reason.com/volokh/2020/11/01/some-tentative-thoughts-on-possible-remedies-in-the-harris-county-curbside-voting-case/
35:44 <steve30> T3sl4, I'm sweet enough without sugar :p
43:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Just realised I fell for a forum necro post, not once, but twice on the same thread with the exact same response from me word for word a year apart. It's one of those days.
51:29 <Some_Person> DHess_US: Okay, I wasn't aware that the state Supreme Court only denied a writ of mandamus. The case here seems very different from the Paterson case though. In Paterson, there were allegations of tampering with ballots. In Harris County, there's nothing like that going on. The only question is whether one must exit their car to legally cast a ballot.
52:23 <Some_Person> The county argues that drive-thru voting is distinct from curbside voting, and they do have different procedures for each of these, the former more closely resembling in-person voting
54:23 <Some_Person> It would seem pretty silly to me to throw out >127,000 votes just because the voters cast them from within their cars. I don't see how that would make the intentions of their votes any less clear than if they were cast outside the cars.
56:01 <Some_Person> and I don't like the idea of a do-over. That would just inconvenience everybody, not to mention probably severely hurt turnout
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25:05 <DHess_US> The voting statute is very specific, and the county election guy was warned ahead of time that he was violating it.
26:09 <DHess_US> So invalidate the vote, and let that county vote again as applicable, and maybe hold their idiot officials responsible for fucking them over.
26:45 <DHess_US> The county officials had authority so they are responsible. Let the voters decide if they should be kept.
42:54 <DHess_US> Lol, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oAc2v3DWGw&feature=youtu.be&t=642
43:45 <DHess_US> Wow, Bitchute really was taken down, https://twitter.com/bitchute/status/1323741461972594688
46:11 <Ampera> DHess_US, it's back up
46:23 <Ampera> gotta love the 4chan conspiracy nut in the replies of that tweet though
48:05 * electrohead offers random beer to everyone
48:10 <Ampera> no
48:14 <Ampera> alcohol bad
48:29 <electrohead> it's just to enjoy
48:48 <T3sl4> \o/
48:56 * T3sl4 beers to refresh his post-walk
49:33 <Ampera> How was your walk anyways, T3sl4
50:56 <T3sl4> it's an extraordinary day, 70F and cloudless
51:27 <Ampera> 70F is more than we have here
51:29 <T3sl4> parking lot at the polling place looked pretty full so i didn't bother to snoop in and look around
51:36 <Ampera> fall is deciding if it wants to be cold or not
52:42 * Ampera gives T3sl4 some peanut butter mochi
52:43 <T3sl4> probably this weather will blow by you in a few days, and then it'll decide to change
53:01 <Ampera> actually I heard that it's supposed to get warmer in a few days, so you may be right
53:06 * T3sl4 gives Ampera falafels
53:17 <Ampera> I've never had a falafel
53:28 <Ampera> my guess is it's sorta like a bean hushpuppy
53:38 <T3sl4> it's vegetarian, but it's fried. guess i don't know if you'd like it
53:57 <Ampera> chickpeas and fava beans
54:04 <Ampera> deep fried, I'd probably not mind it
54:08 <Ampera> it wouldn't make me implode
54:27 <T3sl4> haven't seen it with fava beans, but i suppose you could
54:40 <Ampera> just going based off what Wikipedia says
54:53 <T3sl4> maybe it's a middle east vs indian thing? no idea
55:16 <T3sl4> think the stuff i used says chickpea flour, regular flour, crackermeal or something, spices
55:29 <Ampera> really sounds kinda like a hushpuppy
55:35 <T3sl4> being onion, garlic, cumin, cilantro
56:05 <T3sl4> i mean, a fried dough thing, yeah
56:19 <Ampera> well fried dough is very different to a hushpuppy
56:34 <Ampera> and iirc hushpuppies are made from a batter
56:41 <Ampera> but whatever, it's all fried stuff, it's probably good
56:53 <Ampera> reminds me I need to make some scotch eggs at some point
01:12 <coppice> T3sl4: fava beans go best with human liver
01:26 <Ampera> coppice, I'll have to try that some time
01:29 * T3sl4 confiscates coppice's chianti
01:32 <Ampera> I usually just make mine into pies
02:16 * T3sl4 wrap-hugs Ysjoelfir with a warm duvet
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03:16 <Ysjoelfir> yay \o/
03:16 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 all
03:24 <rust_collector> uuh.. have an üppr night. and if not, make it so
05:53 <T3sl4> also dumped some charge into my car battery, it's less than a year old but with all this lack of driving it's taken a big hit
08:54 <Ampera> My car hasn't been driven in maybe a year and a half (more than an occasional turn on)
09:06 <Ampera> I don't expect the battery to survive much, I just hope the rest of the car does
09:32 <Ampera> I have the battery disconnected but it seems to leak charge anyways so it's probably low right now
09:41 <Ampera> worse case it's a couple hundred on a new battery
09:52 <Ampera> it's otherwise brand new
09:56 <Ampera> so it might do alright
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10:15 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/3eJ1SO3.jpg
10:27 <rust_collector> YES!
11:06 <damian> noooooooo
11:07 <damian> ok fine
11:09 <damian> do it
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16:37 <rust_collector> meh, not today
20:37 <T3sl4> hm, maybe this gel cell isn't so far gone after all. seems like i ran it way down recently and it's been flat ever since. it's taken a good 2.5Ah so far (out of 12Ah nameplate)
21:37 * T3sl4 rubs garlic on damian
21:58 <T3sl4> also, a can of bean-bacon condensed soup, with garlic and spices added
22:02 * T3sl4 nom
23:00 <T3sl4> ah. i say that, and just now the voltage rises out of current limit
23:21 <steve30> i might go out on the bike later
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23:47 <Nothing\> lol i was just reading about charles shulz's military career. he was part of a heavy gunner crew and apparently only got 1 chance to use his .50 cal towards the end of the war. Except he forgot to load it. But the German soldier he had it pointed at surrendered anyways.
24:09 <Nothing\> schulz
24:25 <Nothing\> the guy who made charlie brown and peanuts
24:39 <T3sl4> heh
25:19 <Nothing\> i'd probably do more than surrender if i had a .50 cal rifle pointed at me.
25:35 <Nothing\> i'd surrender my bowel and bladder contents
25:57 <T3sl4> jawol
26:11 <Nothing\> one of those things at close range would turn you into hamburger meat before you even knew what happened
26:29 <Nothing\> at least it'd be a quick and presumably painless death
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27:01 <arch> :3
27:12 * T3sl4 noogies arch
27:24 <Nothing\> as opposed to dying from an infected frag wound from the muddy conditions over the course of several days to a couple of weeks
27:30 <arch> ^w^
27:38 <T3sl4> Nothing\: only if it's a headshot
27:53 <Nothing\> heh
27:56 <T3sl4> a startling amount of the body can be turned to hamburger before the brain loses consciousness
28:20 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i know. it's terrifying how much the body can suffer before death occurs
28:38 <Nothing\> it's a hell of a lot more than most people would believe
29:02 <arch> carry some cyanide pills with ya. problem solved.
29:14 <Nothing\> i remember reading stories of people who are for instance cut in half by a train after falling while train hopping
29:28 <Nothing\> and they'd be perfectly coherent and conscious
29:35 <Nothing\> despite being cut in half
30:10 <Nothing\> and yet a person will bleed out in minutes if a relatively tiny artery (femoral) in your leg gets cut
30:16 <Nothing\> how's that work
32:00 <T3sl4> hemicorporectomy is even a standard medical term
33:26 <T3sl4> guessing in cases like that, the femoral or iliac arteries were somehow still mostly intact, or somehow crushed
34:01 <T3sl4> i guess the main line running down there is the abdominal aorta, which sounds very important
34:13 <Lord_of_nothing_> omg its 00:33 here any my black tee is emty
34:37 * T3sl4 sees Lord_of_nothing_'s red tee and paints it black
39:23 <damian> WHYYYY
39:48 <Nothing\> damn, ps4s still cost about the same as the prices i've seen for ps5s
40:01 <Nothing\> around the upper $600 range
40:21 <Nothing\> guess it depends on what kind you get
41:13 <rust_collector> antibacterial
41:54 <T3sl4> antivampirial too
42:31 <rust_collector> yes, but i try to not mention that too much, because people would start hoarding it, like toilet paper
44:28 <T3sl4> wise
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44:52 <T3sl4> wait, does tp ward vampires too? that would explain a lot
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45:44 * steve30 hugs T3sl4 
45:57 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
47:07 <rust_collector> no comment
48:05 * T3sl4 rubs some garlic on steve30 too
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49:36 * T3sl4 rubs some garlic on arch
49:45 <damian> you disgust me
50:16 <T3sl4> garlic is good shit, what can i say
51:29 * arch melts away due to being a vampire
51:55 <T3sl4> AHAH!
52:36 <steve30> tasty
53:07 * T3sl4 braises arch's corpse with carrots and celery
53:58 <arch> this is a really nice book, 3000 pages, and open source too: http://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/socratic/sinst/
54:02 <arch> Lessons In Industrial Instrumentation textbook
56:37 <MrMobodies> Well I am just organising things and running some more cables
57:45 <MrMobodies> then I am going to start from scratch
58:27 <MrMobodies> Can't ever have that thing happen to me again.
59:18 * T3sl4 hugs MrMobodies
59:23 <MrMobodies> hopefully next week I'll have it all perfect.
00:33 <T3sl4> remember to use one of these next time https://i.imgur.com/nycF2.jpg?fb
02:02 <MrMobodies> oh yes, I aim to do that on every port on that 48 port switch except for the port where the router goes.
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03:10 <MrMobodies> I have setup another switch for management, and closed off the router IP and ports for Lan1 Lan2 and Lan3
03:34 <MrMobodies> suppose to set that up last year but got to do more
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06:52 <MrMobodies> there is going to be another lockdown in England for a month (at least I think) starting Thursday.
07:32 <steve30> yup
09:56 <T3sl4> good idea
23:22 * steve30 passes T3sl4 some coronaviruses
24:05 * T3sl4 quarantines them in a decorative glass bottle on the shelf
26:14 <coppice> They're stopping all international travel out of the UK. It's not clear if people will be able to get home
32:35 <T3sl4> they should've thought of that before travelling to a viral reservoir
33:02 <arch> folks, i need to be able to supply both 5V and 12V in OR-ed config. can i use an ideal diode controller for the 5V line, and use just a plain diode for the 12V line (it doesn't need to be 12V precisely; can be a bit lower, like 11V)
33:20 <arch> or would i kill the 5V ideal diode controller?
33:37 <MrMobodies> I know someone who has a datacenter contract in Swizterland
34:10 <MrMobodies> they were going to pay for his trips and stay but I am thinking may not happen.
34:35 <coppice> T3sl4: which viral reservoir?
35:29 <T3sl4> it wouldn't be much of a diode if it died at 7V
35:40 <T3sl4> the one calling lockdown?
36:11 <coppice> ah, I meant its not clear if people outside the UK will be able to get back to the UK
36:29 <T3sl4> oh, that too
36:37 <arch> i mean, there's ideal diode controllers rated for 5.5Vmax
37:26 <coppice> my daughter has a ticket to return to the UK in the middle of Dec, which is after the current 1 month lockdown is scheduled to end.... but will it?
37:39 <arch> u know what, i think i'll just keep it simple and use two PMEG3030. has a hella low vdrop, 0.45V @ 3A
37:47 <arch> and cheaper too
38:19 <T3sl4> :/
39:20 <MrMobodies> My local newspapers mentioned about 4 people getting fined £10,000 each for house parties
39:24 <MrMobodies> last week
40:07 <MrMobodies> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-54631385
40:14 <damian> that's awesome
40:20 <MrMobodies> oh I thought it was four... oh well
40:25 <coppice> good thing too.
40:25 <damian> that was happening at the start of our lockdown as well until people started getting completely screwed over
40:48 <damian> and great news as well! there was a court case against the state government here saying that our lockdown laws / curfew / etc were 'unlawful'
41:05 <damian> i think after one day in court it got thrown out saying that they didn't have a leg to stand on and that everything was lawful
41:20 <damian> and now the government is charging the prosecuters for money lost because of the court case
41:22 <damian> it's so good
41:38 <T3sl4> hah
42:15 <MrMobodies> The NHS could do with the money generated from the fines.
42:53 <MrMobodies> last time I went out a month ago
43:02 <MrMobodies> someone waiting for good in front of my tablet
43:13 <MrMobodies> coughing right in front of me with no mask
43:36 <MrMobodies> and it was near my food
43:41 <MrMobodies> so I had to move
43:45 <T3sl4> people, what a bunch of bastards
43:49 <rust_collector> I doubt the money will go anywhere they need them, but... meh
44:16 <coppice> The NHS must have saved a fortune this year
44:20 <MrMobodies> a manager came out, asking questiond where their masks where whilst queuing up
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47:01 <MrMobodies> joke: Looks like their definition of "breaking point" means something else.
49:11 <MrMobodies> my head feels like lead so I am resting.
50:29 <coppice> well, at least you won't need a tin foil hat
51:05 <MrMobodies> joke: and not much mobile signals around here either
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58:03 * T3sl4 sings MrMobodies a 5g lullaby
11:55 <rust_collector> horse? no thanks
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30:00 <arch> what's the simplest way of transforming a 0V-12V signal into a signal that is 0V-3.3V? im thinking opamp
30:07 <arch> analog signal*
31:09 <arch> i guess make the gain 1/4th and we're good
31:30 <arch> dont really need the full 3.3v. 3v would work just fine
32:09 <arch> well, i guess i could use a resistor divider, but i dont know the impedance of the input, so was thinking of using an opamp buffer
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42:17 * Halcyon sneezes at T3sl4 
42:36 <rust_collector> TOOOOOOOT
42:36 * T3sl4 sneezes corona on Halcyon
42:47 <Halcyon> YAY! 2 weeks off work! *spins* \o/
43:01 <rust_collector> great waste of time
43:19 <Halcyon> It mostly rained the last 2 weeks I was on leave and I didn't get anything done outdoors I wanted to
43:28 <rust_collector> same here
44:22 <rust_collector> weather today was great, and I was up around 9, but then I spent too long waiting, then went for a nap, and managed to wake up at 18.29
44:54 <Halcyon> I had a nap too :D
45:59 <rust_collector> wife was going to wake me up, but she had someone visiting, so she forgot....
46:29 <rust_collector> so, I had 1 minute from I woke up, to when I was supposed to start at work
46:51 <Ampera> Halcyon, why were you given two weeks
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55:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: If I did a live stream now I'm wondering how many would actually show up? LOL
59:05 <T3sl4> Halcyon: i imagine you spinning like https://i.imgur.com/JSPHlRA.mp4
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05:12 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1323798838977744898?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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12:04 <rust_collector> so, I guess florida did something?
13:52 * electrohead pokes rust_collector
14:10 <rust_collector> hey mr head
14:27 <T3sl4> careful, don't want to get tetanus
14:48 <electrohead> I collect rust at times as well, so it's cool :P
14:57 <electrohead> hey man, how you doing?
15:48 <rust_collector> almost awake, I just had breakfast. good times
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18:07 <electrohead> my car is in the shop as of yesterday
18:09 <electrohead> heh
18:32 <rust_collector> hmm, yeah, so you get it tomorrow?
18:43 <electrohead> ehh, probably thursday I'm guessing
18:45 <rust_collector> or will you be waiting for parts
18:48 <rust_collector> ok
18:57 <electrohead> they already ordered the parts, from last week
19:18 <rust_collector> now you just have to hope they fit
19:34 <electrohead> lmao... please don't say it like that >.<
19:41 <David4> ㅤ
19:52 <rust_collector> well. subarus are in some ways similar to lego
20:00 <electrohead> I have some trust in this place, as all they work on are subaru's
20:11 <electrohead> nothing else
21:16 <rust_collector> you can swap almost any major part of almost any subaru into almost any other subaru, and it will bolt in. it is pretty nice in a way
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23:05 * electrohead throws electrons at T3sl4
23:20 <rust_collector> well, I will just say that I would not make any plans for driving around on friday.....
23:23 <electrohead> the guys at the shop said they didn't need my accessport tuner
23:29 <electrohead> o.O
23:49 <electrohead> I could have sworn the accessport I have is essentially 'married' to my car
23:54 <electrohead> but, we shall find out
23:58 <T3sl4> mmm, delicious
24:14 <rust_collector> accessport...
24:26 <rust_collector> sounds like apple wifi or something
24:32 <electrohead> rust_collector: the programmer for changing the ECU mappings
24:39 <electrohead> Cobb Accessport
24:43 <electrohead> have you heard of it?
25:08 <rust_collector> nope. on the original ecu?
25:21 <electrohead> it installs over the original ECU software
25:28 <rust_collector> ok
25:50 <rust_collector> I didn't think that was much of a thing any more
25:54 <rust_collector> but ok
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26:01 <electrohead> it definitely is!
26:29 <rust_collector> how much cheap did you get that for?
26:30 * Halcyon spreads hot english mustard all over T3sl4 
26:45 <electrohead> I need to get a mount for mine, then figure out a way to get both the accessport device, and a rasp.pi connected to the OBDII/CANbus at the same time
26:47 * T3sl4 throws elections at Halcyon
26:49 <electrohead> then I'll be set
27:04 <electrohead> it came with the car, when I bought it
27:14 <electrohead> bought it used for 14,000 USD
27:48 <T3sl4> that's an expensive OBD adapter
27:51 <electrohead> err, the car
27:53 <electrohead> sorry, lol
28:05 <electrohead> :P
28:13 <electrohead> yeah, that would be expensive as fuck, heh
28:19 * electrohead cracks another guiness open
28:36 <rust_collector> $650 or so, I see
29:12 <T3sl4> i was actually thinking of that in terms of, the ODB thingy is the important part and the car is the $14000 adapter that it connects to
29:25 <rust_collector> right
29:42 <electrohead> lol
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30:37 <rust_collector> so, you can flash it, and remove the device?
30:50 <electrohead> once I get my car in good condition, get the dent in the fender fixed, the rear trunk to stop leaking, then I will focus on implementing a r.pi4 and a CAN bus solution, plus a media solution for music
30:59 <electrohead> rust_collector: yup!
31:26 <electrohead> but, I'm thinking about removing the electronics from the accessport, and custom integrating into the dashboard
32:04 <rust_collector> that is neat, as the stock ecu is fairly ok, and it mostly fits the car pretty well
32:41 <electrohead> then have the r.pi4 for CAN bus messages, then incorporate a wifi solution so that when I am parked outside, I can upload/download/edit mappings as I please, plus also upload/change my music within my car
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33:25 <electrohead> with my old celica (RIP!), I had an external hard drive installed within the glovebox, that had my full music collection, and available to my head unit
33:35 <electrohead> and that was quite some years ago
33:59 <T3sl4> my celica is nearly fallen apart, but still runs somehow
34:08 <electrohead> I know a *lot* more nowadays, so I shall challenge myself and design up a solution for all of this
34:11 <electrohead> T3sl4: ;o
34:15 <electrohead> what year?
34:21 <T3sl4> 95 GT
34:26 <electrohead> oooo
34:27 <T3sl4> manual
34:32 <rust_collector> that is how toyotas are.
34:51 <electrohead> mine was a 2004, 5 speed manual
34:54 <rust_collector> well, used to be
35:11 <electrohead> I was half asleep, and drove through a puddle in base housing...
35:29 <rust_collector> they just fall apart, because there is nothing left to keep them together, but it will start and run
35:33 <electrohead> well, the puddle was deeper than I thought, and since I had my intake within the fender, umm..
35:44 <electrohead> it sucked up water, and seized the engine
35:47 <electrohead> >.<
35:58 <electrohead> BUT, that was the start to how I got my subaru
36:08 <electrohead> fuck, I had a lot of money put into my celica :(
36:11 <T3sl4> ah yes, the last generation celica
36:20 <electrohead> dude I had that thing looking so nice
36:26 <electrohead> was a cop magnet, though
36:28 <electrohead> heh
36:31 <T3sl4> heh
37:06 <rust_collector> of all things... did you paint it pink and have god is gay on the sides or something?
37:15 <electrohead> I never told you guys about my speeding ticket driving through Virginia >.<
37:18 <electrohead> rust_collector: lol, no
37:45 <electrohead> was going with traffic, then sped up a bit to pass a tractor trailor, and *pop*
37:56 <electrohead> 33 over the speeding limit
38:09 <electrohead> $1,171 ticket, including "fees"
38:36 <T3sl4> ouch
38:43 <electrohead> I told the cop I was on my way to my second base, and he picked up quickly that I wouldn't be able to make it for the court date
38:56 <electrohead> so they threw the book at me
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38:58 <electrohead> fucking assholes
39:12 <electrohead> I swear, the dude was against his own military
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39:20 <electrohead> >:|
39:28 <T3sl4> that's what happens when police are for-profit
39:40 <electrohead> yeah man, it was bullshit
39:58 <electrohead> that was my whole back-pay pretty much for the time off I had between bases
40:01 <electrohead> was so pissed
40:03 <electrohead> lol
40:14 <rust_collector> Well, I am not very happy about our military over here...
40:31 * electrohead throws respect at your military
40:36 <electrohead> did it help?
40:38 <electrohead> lol
40:42 <rust_collector> uuh, no
40:50 <electrohead> damn, ok I tried the best I could
41:04 <rust_collector> I do remember listening to the radio, when we were "training"
41:48 <Nothing\> woo
42:01 <rust_collector> some of your people in some fancy helicopter had spotted a few of out guys on a small rock out in the sea somewhere, and asked what they should do with them
42:01 <Nothing\> biden 131, trump 92
42:11 <Nothing\> so far
42:35 <T3sl4> ugh, election day counting. they need to just leave it alone until it's all in
42:50 <rust_collector> The answer was to just leave them there, they were alone in the middle of the sea, and it was cold and windy
43:01 <Nothing\> yeah it's very tentative, even for the next few days after the election
43:10 <T3sl4> er, reporting that is
43:37 <rust_collector> yep, tell us the news when you have some news
43:49 <electrohead> Nothing\: did you vote?
43:52 <electrohead> I didn't.
44:01 <Nothing\> electrohead, i'm canadian but i don't vote
44:11 <Nothing\> we almost had an election here a few weeks ago
44:21 <rust_collector> Nothing usually sneak across the border and vote in every town
44:21 <electrohead> I thought you lived in the US?
44:29 <electrohead> lol
44:44 <Nothing\> there was a vote of non-confidence against trudeau but he won it, so no election
44:52 <T3sl4> toronto is almost US :P
44:56 <Nothing\> if he lost the vote there would have been an election
45:18 <rust_collector> do you have a real alternative?
45:24 <Nothing\> yup
45:29 <Nothing\> 2 parties, in fact
45:42 <Nothing\> we've gradually been turning into a 3 party system
46:07 <rust_collector> Yes, but a real one, that would be elected, not that just exist
46:08 <Nothing\> as the 3rd underdog party starts getting more chairs in the legislature and thus more power
46:41 <Nothing\> rust_collector, we almost had the 3rd party (new democratic party) voted in years ago
46:51 <Nothing\> but unfortunately their leader died
47:04 <Nothing\> and they just haven't been able to get the same pull the had when he was around
47:29 <Nothing\> other than that, it's the liberal party, who trudeau represents
47:52 <Nothing\> or the progressive conservatives, aka the tories who are usually the other major party
48:12 <electrohead> T3sl4: true, lol
48:27 * electrohead hands Nothing\ some guiness
48:51 <electrohead> and, my bad, for a second I thought you were in the US, gah, my bad
48:55 <rust_collector> I want to build a wall
48:57 <Nothing\> there was another brand of ale i used to drink when i did drink, i forget what it was
48:57 * electrohead shakes himself
49:01 <Nothing\> kilkenny
49:04 <Nothing\> that's it
49:06 <Nothing\> sp?
49:52 <electrohead> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilkenny_(beer)
50:00 * T3sl4 drools some electrons on electrohead
50:02 <Nothing\> yup, that's the one
50:13 <Nothing\> it's a good'un if you can find it there
50:31 <electrohead> I've heard of it, just haven't seen it
50:33 <electrohead> :P
50:45 * electrohead absorbs drooled electrons
51:15 <Nothing\> or if you're going lager, anything german
51:27 <electrohead> <3
51:28 <Nothing\> german beer is real beer. the way it was meant to be made.
52:03 <electrohead> yeah no joke, man
52:07 <Nothing\> i liked worschteiner and wernsgruner
52:12 <Nothing\> they were good brands
52:53 <electrohead> I know this is Belgian, but have you tried Hoegaarden?
53:02 <Nothing\> can't say i have
53:10 <electrohead> dude, you need to try it
53:12 <electrohead> <3
53:21 <Nothing\> i don't drink anymore
53:27 <electrohead> oh oh, ok
53:28 <Nothing\> although a sip would be fine
53:32 <electrohead> I'll try it for you :P
53:41 <electrohead> even though I have already
53:51 <Nothing\> i mean i'm not a teatotaller, i've just lost my head for alcohol and don't enjoy it anymore
54:36 <Nothing\> probably just as well since it'd be liable to kill me with the meds i take. literally.
54:39 * electrohead throws neon transformers at T3sl4
54:51 <Halcyon> By the way gents, I am trying to organise Dave to potentially join the IRC channel for a chat. Not sure what time or when as yet as he is busy with the move etc... but watch this space.
54:51 <electrohead> eh, damn
55:04 * T3sl4 crackles with ozone
55:13 <Nothing\> Halcyon, that would be awesome
55:23 <electrohead> Halcyon: now that would be cool. :D
55:24 <T3sl4> Halcyon, did hell freeze over?
55:25 * electrohead hugs Halcyon
55:29 <rust_collector> ok, so what should we rant about, and...
55:30 <Nothing\> i don't even know what i'd say to him
55:38 <Nothing\> i'd get mildly forklempt i think
56:00 <steve30> Will David2 be coming too?
56:04 <Halcyon> Well initially I have suggested doing it unannounced, otherwise we will get all and sundry in here and it will become hell to moderate. I suggested to keep it to the regulars in here only (at least to start) and see how we go.
56:08 <electrohead> What Halcyon is really saying: If you fine gentlemen/gentlewomen want Dave himself to speak to (us), be nice and courteous.
56:08 <Nothing\> farklempt
56:22 <Nothing\> talk amongst yourselves
56:40 <Nothing\> you cheeky bum-lookers
56:47 <Halcyon> Hehe no David2 (yet)
56:48 <rust_collector> I don't know how much of a pervert he is
57:01 <rust_collector> now I have to behave until he is gone
57:22 <Halcyon> Heheheh I doubt it will be today. But if/when it happens, I'll let you all know in advance.
57:39 <Nothing\> Halcyon, awesome yeah i think that's a good idea
57:50 <Nothing\> it'd suck to have so many people in here you couldn't get a word in edgewise
57:58 <Nothing\> better to just keep it casual
58:24 <steve30> I was pondering going out for a walk, but I might go to bed instead
58:34 <Halcyon> Well that's the thing, a small handful of people chatting is one thing, but it can get really carried away very quickly. We would need to work out a way to filter and moderate the messages with a larger group
59:07 <Nothing\> Halcyon, well a channel limit would be a nice start
59:09 <Nothing\> and/or key
59:30 <steve30> I suggest keeping the riffraff on twitter/youtube comments
59:42 <Halcyon> Yes this is true. Perhaps for future sessions if he is keen. But the first one, I reckon, just a semi-random time/date and not announce it outside this channel.
59:58 <rust_collector> sounds good.
00:05 <Nothing\> agreed
00:12 <Nothing\> good call
00:14 <Halcyon> It would be more of a treat to you guys who have stuck around and are regular contributers
00:42 <rust_collector> contributing.... what? you mean T3sl4 and mr H?
00:49 <Halcyon> Haha
00:52 <Nothing\> lol
00:58 <Halcyon> And Ampera :P
01:05 <rust_collector> well...
01:14 <steve30> Purrs count as contributions :)
01:17 <Nothing\> keeping this place's pulse going
01:35 <Halcyon> steve30 is under the blankets most of the time :P
01:51 <Nothing\> know what i don't get
02:00 * Ampera hugs and kisses Halcyon 
02:03 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
02:06 <Halcyon> Morning Ampera :)
02:06 * Ampera kisses rust_collector 
02:07 <Nothing\> i used to be able to go under the blankets just fine as a child
02:13 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
02:14 <rust_collector> WHOOO!
02:18 * Ampera gives steve30 a box of miniDV tapes
02:35 <Ampera> Halcyon, you're two hours early for morning
02:37 <Halcyon> Ampera, I have 4x5 boxes of DVC tapes next to me right now
02:38 <Nothing\> but as an adult, if i go under the blankets i feel like i'm suffocating after a couple of minutes
02:42 <Halcyon> I was only just looking at them today
02:56 * rust_collector does something nice to Ampera 
02:58 <Ampera> was talking about the new Hummer EV in the AfterNET channel
02:59 <steve30> Nothing\, I like snuggling up in blankets
03:03 <Halcyon> Nothing\: Probably because we are so used to air conditioning and fresh air these days?
03:14 <Ampera> GM is saying it's gonna have 1000hp and 0-60 in 3 seconds
03:28 * steve30 winds some DV tape around Ampera 
03:38 <Nothing\> i can't stand blankets. i sleep totally nude with no blankets or anything. i don't like the feeling of restriction.
03:59 <Halcyon> I sleep nude but I need a rather hefty blanket on top of me, but I like it cold outside the blanket
04:01 <Halcyon> It's weird
04:06 <rust_collector> I have to have something on me.
04:10 <Ampera> I find it hard to sleep without blankets, but I'm usually fine with a thin one
04:21 <Ampera> and I sleep either nude or clothed
04:21 <Nothing\> maybe a pillow between my knees at most to keep my spine somewhat aligned
04:22 <Halcyon> I get tangled in thin sheets/blankets
04:22 <Ampera> it depends
04:29 * steve30 passes Halcyon a high-definition steve30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2XJ1N9mhkE
04:31 <rust_collector> it can be just a duvet cover, but it has to be something there
04:46 <Nothing\> Halcyon, a surprisingly high number of people die from that
04:47 <Halcyon> Awww Steve :)
04:53 <Nothing\> getting tangled in their blankets
05:05 <Halcyon> Heheh 1080 "aiiiii"
05:12 <Halcyon> You sounded black for a moment
05:39 <Halcyon> The audio is very nice, even front facing
05:57 <Nothing\> lol yeah i end up keeping my room super warm cuz for some reason i get cold when i sleep
06:18 <Halcyon> I do the opposite, cold room, warm under the covers. I like my head to be cool
06:37 <Nothing\> even if i use blankets. for whatever reason i get colder than normal when i sleep.
06:49 <Nothing\> Halcyon, i used to do that
06:53 <Halcyon> Well everyone's body temperature drops during sleep
06:55 <Ampera> "you sounded black for a moment"
06:57 <Ampera> what even
07:10 <Nothing\> i'd have my winodws open in the middle of winter when it's -20 out
07:17 <Ampera> TIL Halcyon has never seen or heard a black person :P
07:25 <Nothing\> with 3 or 4 blankets on me.
07:33 <Halcyon> We have black people here Ampera
07:37 <steve30> Does Jerry keep you warm?
07:53 <Halcyon> Hehehe Jerry wouldn't even keep your privates warm. He is a smallish bird
07:53 <electrohead> lmfao
08:09 <Nothing\> yeha it's funny i just assume everyone in here is white and european unless told otherwise
08:17 <Halcyon> Racist :P
08:26 <Nothing\> most other places i'd just assume everyone was a yank
08:38 <Nothing\> cuz they usually were
08:44 <Halcyon> Those geese are cute Steve
08:56 <steve30> :)
09:46 <Nothing\> i wonder how much it'd cost to buy a hammock of baby chickens from a factory farm
10:04 <Nothing\> i'd love to use them as a blanket
10:34 <Nothing\> something like 500 chicks
10:49 <Ampera> as I thought
10:52 <Ampera> my vote's useless :P
10:59 <Ampera> NY's initial polling results are strong blue
11:14 <Nothing\> yeah, biden's winning strong so far
11:19 <Ampera> not really
11:36 <Nothing\> he's got 40 votes on trump
12:24 <Ampera> Nothing\, no he doesn't
12:30 <Ampera> if you're looking at google those are not fina;
12:37 <Ampera> those are just best guess finals
12:44 <Ampera> because Google doesn't actually display the results
12:52 <Nothing\> https://globalnews.ca/news/7440074/us-election-trump-biden-polls/
12:57 <Nothing\> he's starting to catch up
13:05 <Nothing\> but still, ~35 behind
13:20 <Ampera> Nothing\, there have only been around 70 million votes counted
13:22 <Ampera> still plenty more to go
13:23 <Nothing\> but yeah i'm aware they're not set in stone
14:02 <Halcyon> I am disappointed you didn't chase the geese steve30
14:06 <rust_collector> steve30, it looks like your camera does ok, and I like the view of the..... uhm... landscape
14:31 <Ampera> Half reporting in Virginia with a Trump lead, maybe they'll end up being a red state this time around
15:07 <steve30> There are quite a lot of compression artifiacts due to the video clips being reencoded several times.
15:23 <steve30> Halcyon, hehe, I just leave them to mind their own business
15:29 <Ampera> I absolutely love the quality of my phone's camera
15:59 <Halcyon> Yes but your camera doesn't take tape Ampera
16:16 <Ampera> it shoots in 8K though
16:24 <Ampera> 4K60 too
16:32 <Ampera> and 1080P120
17:09 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG4QahJQZdw this is a worst case example, poor lighting, lots of very dark objects as focus
17:14 <steve30> I was capturing stuff from my SVHSC camcorder earlier
17:20 <Ampera> it'd probably look great in HDR
17:54 <Ampera> you can see the AF is snappy and fast though. My only main complaint about it is it seems to have a really narrow, er, focus range?
18:02 <Ampera> the distances within which things are in focus
18:03 <steve30> yay, Halcyon's favourite species :D
18:15 <rust_collector> steve30, are you from that area? or, I guess, is your accent from there?
18:27 <Ampera> It's the only 4K60 video I have on youtube at the moment
18:31 <Halcyon> Focal length Ampera
18:41 <Halcyon> And that's because of the physical depth of the glass
18:48 <Ampera> it makes sense
19:00 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us8y6M3aNQE
19:04 <Ampera> this is 8K footage I've shown before
19:44 <Ampera> that 8K footage really came out well actually, I'm quite happy with it
19:53 <coppice> It looks just like 4k :)
20:04 <Halcyon> It's kind of lost on my 4K monitor
20:07 <Halcyon> Also, stupid cats
20:15 <steve30> rust_collector, that's about half a mile from here. I don't particularly have a 'Yorkshire accent' though.
20:54 <Ampera> well yeah because people outside of yorkshire can understand a word of what you say
21:12 <rust_collector> heh
21:37 <coppice> Ampera: there are surprisingly few people around here with a Yorkshire accent
22:13 <Ampera> maybe Yorkshire is becoming an extinct language like Manx or Cornish.
22:35 <steve30> hmm, Ampera has more Youtube subscribers than me. Must be the kitties.
22:57 <Ampera> I suppose I used to do streaming, which is where I got most of those
25:16 <Halcyon> I am watching your bunny Ampera
26:36 <steve30> I wonder if anyone other than Halcyon would watch a live stream of me
26:55 <Halcyon> :P
27:07 <rust_collector> I think it depends a bit on what you are dong
27:14 <rust_collector> with an i
27:25 <Halcyon> Dong on the brain? :P
27:30 <rust_collector> sssh!
27:37 <steve30> :D
28:15 <rust_collector> better than "amperas bunny" just because you said that, I think there is something wrong
28:18 <Ampera> I just played games and spedrun half-life 2
28:23 <Ampera> nobody really watched and I was shit at all of it
28:36 <Ampera> rust_collector, no I actually have a bunny
28:54 <Ampera> rust_collector, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_GjAuS46S4
29:11 <rust_collector> yes, but when halfcyan says something, I never know if it is a bunny or something kinky
29:23 <Halcyon> When am I ever kinky?
29:30 <electrohead> you are now :P
29:32 <electrohead> lol
29:35 <Halcyon> Am not
29:39 <Halcyon> You are
29:54 <rust_collector> you were born, and I think you were kinky from around that time, probably?
30:27 <Ampera> Halcyon, you've been kinky continuously since the invention of the wheel
30:42 <Halcyon> Pfft
30:43 <Halcyon> Lies
30:52 <rust_collector> and dirt and magnetism
30:57 * electrohead throws kinkiness at Halcyon
31:06 <Halcyon> I feel like ice cream
31:12 <Halcyon> But it's burried under stuff in the freezer
31:27 <Halcyon> *buried
31:32 <rust_collector> I wish I could feel like ice cream
32:42 <rust_collector> well, have a good...time I am going to bed
33:34 <Ampera> Halcyon, sounds like old man complaints to me
33:58 <rust_collector> yes, just order some delivered
34:27 <steve30> I wouldn't let silly things like that get in the way of food
34:30 * Ampera hands rust_collector an ice cream tub full of C4
34:32 * electrohead hands Halcyon chocolate peanut butter chocolate
34:41 * electrohead hands Halcyon chocolate peanut butter ice cream *
34:55 <electrohead> I so fucked that up, and I haven't been drinking, I swear.
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35:30 <rust_collector> I think I need peanut and caramel sauce ice cream one of these days
35:36 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
35:49 <rust_collector> ok, still going to bed....
36:51 <Halcyon> Night rust_collector
37:26 <Ampera> I think I might go to bed and try to dream about a good dicking
37:28 <Ampera> good night
37:39 <Halcyon> Night Ampera
37:49 * Halcyon slaps Ampera with a large weiner on the way out
40:25 <steve30> I'm going to go out for a walk. Back soon.
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42:21 * electrohead walks away from all of this
42:34 <Halcyon> Fine :P
43:06 <electrohead> I swear, I join the weirdest online communities
43:08 <electrohead> lol
43:31 <Halcyon> There is nothing weird in here
43:35 <Halcyon> Well... except Ampera :P
43:41 <electrohead> :P
43:51 <Ampera> I want to be penised :/
44:04 <Halcyon> Nothing wrong with that
44:09 <Ampera> why not
44:18 <Halcyon> Because it's not illegal anymore!
44:23 <Halcyon> Also, fun
44:29 <Ampera> you mean not illegal yet
44:37 <Halcyon> Soddomy used to be illegal
44:44 <Ampera> used to be?
44:51 <Ampera> still illegal here
44:59 <Halcyon> Wouldn't be surprised :P
45:13 <Ampera> I appreciate your low view of my home
45:18 <Ampera> it makes me feel happy to live here
45:22 <Halcyon> It's because you have cats
45:28 <Halcyon> I wouldn't mind it so much otherwise
45:44 <Ampera> you literally have a broken smoke detector as a pet
45:48 <Ampera> shut up
45:49 <Halcyon> This is true
45:51 <Halcyon> :P
46:44 * electrohead replaces its battery
47:10 <Halcyon> He means my birb
47:14 <Halcyon> He doesn't shutup
47:21 <electrohead> :P
48:20 <Ampera> penis
48:38 <Halcyon> I thought you were going to bed?
56:27 <electrohead> I am, now
56:33 <electrohead> goodnight, all o/
56:36 <Halcyon> Not you
56:37 <Halcyon> :P
56:43 <Halcyon> But goodnight
57:04 <electrohead> I have work tomorrow, and we have a truck coming of at least 4 or 5 pallets, yay
57:09 <Halcyon> Fun
57:12 <electrohead> at least we have extra help :)
57:13 <Halcyon> I wish I could help you
57:32 <electrohead> all good, an extra person will be there tomorrow
57:43 <electrohead> just hope he can keep up with me >.<
57:46 <electrohead> heh
01:19 <electrohead> alright, bed time for this goof
01:23 <electrohead> g'night o/
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13:16 <Dave> Hello world
13:31 <Halcyon> Oh so you got my email ?
14:56 <Ampera> oh dear
15:02 <Dave> Got it!
15:14 <Halcyon> Ampera, I thought you were going to bed?
15:20 <Ampera> I am in bed.
15:28 <Ampera> laptops are great
16:10 <Halcyon> There were a few around earlier Dave... T3sl4, rust_collector, steve30 etc...
16:28 <Halcyon> But it's that weird time of day where the Aussies are up but the rest are off doing other things.
16:43 <Ampera> I mean most of Europe and the US are sleeping right now
17:08 <T3sl4> lies, i never sleep
17:27 Mode: (by ChanOP) +v Dave
17:28 <T3sl4> wait, i thought Dave swore off IRC for ever?
17:32 <Ampera> you just check your eyes for holes on occasion
17:37 <Dave> Not a single person in the US is sleeping right now I'm sure...
17:42 <T3sl4> mmm, eye holes
17:59 <electrohead> O.O
17:59 <Ampera> Dave, most of us wish we were :P
18:11 <Halcyon> Nothing\ was around too but not sure where he is from
18:15 <Ampera> er, eyelids
18:17 <T3sl4> toronto
18:18 <electrohead> I got "a notification" .. and I woke right up, and came back to the laptop
18:21 <Ampera> too tired to make humor
18:35 <Halcyon> Put some pants on electrohead, we have guests
18:40 <Ampera> gdi
18:51 <T3sl4> lies, you never wear pants Halcyon
19:06 <Halcyon> I have nothing to say to that :P
19:20 <Ampera> is there a concept of no contest in the australian legal system?
19:39 <Halcyon> Yep, not sure what the legal definition is
19:56 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
20:19 <Ampera> Wikipedia "In the Commonwealth countries—such as England and Wales, Canada, and Australia—the plea of nolo contendere is not permitted. The defendant must enter a plea of "guilty" or "not guilty". If a defendant refuses to enter a plea, the court will record a plea of "not guilty"."
20:22 <Halcyon> Dave, did you end up deciding on a new laptop, or are you more confused as ever now?
20:43 * electrohead waves hello out of respect to Dave
20:54 <Halcyon> Well yes, black and white, but there are some "buts"
21:22 <Ampera> Halcyon, I'm not sure if this is in reference to court or your pants
21:23 <Dave> Leaning heaving toward to Lenovo Legion 5. Just deciding how much to spend.
21:45 <Ampera> Halcyon and I are using a Lenovo
21:49 <Ampera> though mine is AMD
21:52 <Halcyon> I bought a laptop to replace my desktop about 4 or so months ago (it's my daily driver now). It took me weeks to decide.
21:53 <Dave> I should stop being a tight arse, I just saved $40k a year moving back to my old lab.
22:22 <Ampera> not sure what Lenovo has for AMD, but if your goal is pure CPU grunt, AMD chips are thrashing Intel's mobile offerings right now
22:25 <T3sl4> so you're gonna buy a flight sim setup next year with that right?
22:27 <T3sl4> ;)
22:30 <Dave> Yeah, leaning toward the Ryzon 7 version with the RTX card, but it seems unavailable at present.
22:34 <Halcyon> That being said, I did treat myself and spent about $5k in today, which included all the accessories and a 4K monitor to go with it.
22:49 <Halcyon> *in total
22:54 <Ampera> T3sl4, you misunderstand, 40k in australia is the price of lunch.
23:14 <Dave> The Lenovo Legion 5 comes in both Intel and AMD version, and also GTX vs RTX video variants.
23:17 <T3sl4> or dinner in canada
23:18 <Ampera> my laptop is worth 800 bucks because all it does is watch youtube and prevent me from sleeping
23:19 <Halcyon> All tax deductable of course ;-)
23:57 <Dave> When you are a Youtuber EVERYTHING is tax deductible :-D
24:00 <Ampera> Dave, have you checked Amazon? They on occasion have stuff stocked Lenovo doesn't
24:12 <Dave> Yeah, nothing.
24:21 <Ampera> that's where I bought my laptop, they even had an upgraded model with 20GB of RAM Lenovo didn't even list
24:23 <Ampera> that's a shame
24:34 <Halcyon> Oh by the way Dave, Ampera built the bot in here. Everytime you make a tweet, it's re-broadcast in here. It also does a few other nifty things.
24:40 <Halcyon> eevblog time
24:40 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 15:24 Sydney time.
24:50 <Ampera> Dave, just make sure when you get mobile Ryzen, it's Ryzen 4000
24:54 <Dave> Sweet, thanks!
24:55 <Ampera> as those are the newer ones that are worth buying
24:59 <Ampera> EEVBlog status
25:00 <EEVBlog> Latest EEVBlog Tweet: If I did a live stream now I'm wondering how many would actually show up? LOL
25:11 <Ampera> EEVBlog Convert 12 inches to cm
25:11 <EEVBlog> The result is: 30.48 cm
25:40 <Ampera> made with only the finest patchwork java
25:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Testing the EEVblog IRC channel bot, which should repost this on the IRC channel.
26:08 <Halcyon> Oh gawd, now you've done it :P
26:09 <Ampera> nice
26:36 <Dave> It's a Ryzen 7 4800H
26:46 <Ampera> should I mention the slight caveat that if he posts multiple tweets in rapid succession it might miss one?
26:58 <Ampera> Yeah those should be good
26:59 <Halcyon> Shhhh, that's a 'feature' :P
27:20 <electrohead> Dave: cheers from Pennsylvania, USA. Don't know what else to say, but hello, and have been watching your videos for a while now. Because of you and a few other people on the youtubes, I have converted my apartment to a lab plus more, and dedicate most of my time to electronics and radio.
28:18 <Ampera> See? Even the Amish are getting into electronics because of you!
29:17 <Halcyon> The Amish are probably laughing whilst you guys are all locked down with your 'rona
30:12 <T3sl4> which, i think they're doing pretty well with it, considering? haven't seen full blown stats for them tho
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30:26 <Halcyon> The Amish?
30:31 <Dave> Hey @electrohead nice to hear.
30:43 <Ampera> T3sl4, well they'd have to communicate those stats via smoke signal
30:47 <Ampera> so they might just not have gotten around to it yet
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31:01 <Halcyon> Oops, we killed him
31:03 <Ampera> congrats you killed him
31:18 <T3sl4> to the bitbucket even, got damn
32:03 <Halcyon> And I thought our internet was crap
32:29 <Ampera> as I said, Amish country
32:34 <T3sl4> that amish internet, it'll get ya
32:53 <Ampera> tin can telephone relay network, ox plow must have struck the line
32:54 <Halcyon> It's called the NBN
34:28 <Halcyon> Dave did you happen to recall a mailbag item from me in a plasic Austpost satchel? The tracking details are borked. It's just you might want to yank the batteries out before they leak :P
35:01 <Halcyon> I can't remember what brand I stuck in there but it was left on, for reasons which will be obvious once you read the note.
35:42 <Ampera> nice, you sent him a gift that will self destruct if he doesn't open it
36:08 <Halcyon> Well it doesn't really matter if they do leak, it's not really that useful as an item. Just that no one like crusty batteries
36:22 <Ampera> according to what statistics
36:28 <Ampera> where's your source?
36:32 <Ampera> was there a vote?
36:40 <Halcyon> Anecdotal
37:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Utter madness. Although lagging behind the negative madness in other countries. https://t.co/378ymYQ7Xi
37:23 * Ampera throws a turnip at Halcyon 
37:55 <Dave> Got it, it's on the shelf
37:59 <Halcyon> Perfect!
38:05 <Ampera> Halcyon, what do you think, should I take a vacation starting tomorrow?
38:25 <Halcyon> I guess it depends... ? Is Trump going to win?
38:31 <Dave> When in doubt about a vacation, take it.
38:32 <Ampera> nobody's going to win
38:39 <Ampera> Dave, sounds like good advice
38:41 <Halcyon> Well, this is true
38:52 <Dave> Was looking like Trump would win a few hours ago, now it looks like Biden
39:03 <Dave> Super close it seems.
39:16 <Ampera> Dave, it's misleading, our election system is quite odd
39:27 <Ampera> and technically this isn't even the actual election
39:33 <Ampera> this is just electing the electors which elect for us.
39:43 <Halcyon> 'murica!
40:07 <Ampera> current votes counted is 110 million, I'm not sure what the current voting base is, but that's actually pretty significant
40:28 <Ampera> if you're looking at google though, they haven't called a good number of notoriously red states
41:07 <Ampera> that being said, it's incredibly close even in the normally blue northeastern states
41:33 <Dave> We don't even get to directly vote for a leader
41:49 <Halcyon> True, it kind of just happened
41:53 <Ampera> that's what I find funny, people complain about our voting system when most countries don't even have one
41:57 <T3sl4> 24 hr election reporting is such a statistical joke, i ignore it anyway
42:08 <Dave> Was thinking about running in my electorate just for shits and giggles and so I can vote for myself :-D
42:11 <T3sl4> but at least you get your erection sausage
42:13 <T3sl4> election*
42:19 <Ampera> ...
42:28 <Halcyon> Dave: Why not join John Cadogan... he wants to "Make Australia Less Shit"
42:34 <Ampera> I refuse to believe that was accidential
42:40 <Halcyon> He's up in Richmond or Kurrajong somewhere :P
42:47 <Ampera> Halcyon, that's a terrible platform, I want the nation to be more shit!
42:47 <EEVBlog> And the horse you rode in on, Ampera!
42:52 <Ampera> yeah!
42:58 <T3sl4> Ampera, but it's a delightful coincidence if so
43:00 <Dave> But seriously, it pisses me off that my local electorate does not have an independent candidate to even vote for.
43:17 <Halcyon> I keep telling you Dave... #MountainLife ;-)
43:23 <T3sl4> what is it, by party?
43:37 <Dave> I think if you get 5% of the vote or something they give you $5k to run again next time.
43:41 <Ampera> Halcyon, how's that mountain VDSL going for you
44:12 <Halcyon> 100/40
44:23 <Ampera> my phone gets better than that
44:24 <Halcyon> Well... 105/40
44:51 <Dave> Is he running for the senate?
45:16 <Ampera> maybe he's running for his life
45:18 <Halcyon> Heh, no, but he keeps joking about it. He is a journalist that went off on his own. All into cars and such.
45:45 <Halcyon> Used to work for 2UE and Seven (?) I think until he pissed too many bosses off
45:47 <Dave> Yes, I watch his channel sometimes.
45:54 <Ampera> Those automotive types are real shifty.
46:07 <Halcyon> Oh gees Ampera
46:30 <Ampera> Halcyon, didn't mean to drive you crazy.
46:43 <Halcyon> I'm going to hang the towels out
46:50 <Halcyon> Think about what you've done
47:08 <T3sl4> well this conversation has turned a corner
47:09 <Ampera> I'll do it again! I won't let you steer me wrong.
47:22 <Halcyon> *sigh*
48:00 <Ampera> Your dismay only fuels me.
48:18 <Ampera> I'll never tire of this.
49:11 <T3sl4> time to pump the brakes
49:42 <Halcyon> You guys suck. Honestly. The one time Dave comes in and it's not even about electronics.
49:52 <Halcyon> I guess it could be worse...
50:33 <T3sl4> it could be worse. we could be talking about electronics.
50:38 <Ampera> Halcyon, it could always be worse, we could be clutching at straws
50:54 <Ampera> Give us a brake.
51:15 <Ampera> You can't spell engineer without engine
51:28 <T3sl4> ingenur
51:38 <Ampera> alright even I'm starting to hate myself now, I'll stop
52:56 <Halcyon> :P Well you guys have fun. I'm going to clean Jerry's cage out.
53:03 <Halcyon> (Jarry is a bird)
53:06 <Halcyon> *Jerry
54:22 <Dave> I'd better go, later.
54:34 <T3sl4> o/
54:41 Quit: Dave ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
55:32 * steve30 returns
55:41 * T3sl4 ctrls
55:41 <steve30> and I missed Dave
00:05 * Ampera /n's T3sl4 
12:30 * steve30 hugs T3sl4 
12:39 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
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14:01 <arch> looks like donarudo is losing
14:52 * arch starts selling off all MAGA merch for pennies on the dollar
15:47 <T3sl4> the red hats are pretty nice, if only they had a better message on them
16:13 <T3sl4> are they usually printed or embroidered? would imagine embroidery could be redone
17:06 <arch> "make the MC34063 great again"
17:35 <Halcyon> Hahah
17:39 <arch> MMC34063GA
17:57 <arch> doesn't quite have a ring =(
23:58 Quit: l_nicooo ([email protected]) Connection closed
24:52 <arch> T3sl4 sensei, is this a valid option for unused opamps? i just need 1 opamp, so i put the other as unity gain: https://i.imgur.com/XhDGMEH.png
25:10 <T3sl4> wastes BW and offset
25:29 <T3sl4> the follower wiring is fine, just tie +in to GND or whatever
25:31 <arch> well, i dont really need fast response
25:39 <arch> ok
25:41 <steve30> I'd just leave the unused ones
26:19 <arch> according to googlefu, that's apparently a bad idea according to TI and Maxim appnotes
26:29 <arch> you can apparently blow out the chips somehow
28:21 <arch> https://www.ti.com/lit/an/sboa204a/sboa204a.pdf
29:08 <arch> well, whatever, i'll waste two resistors. no big deal.
29:41 <Halcyon> Right, Jerry's cage is clean
30:00 <T3sl4> bahahaha i just noticed the datasheet shows layout example for the TO-39 package
32:12 <Halcyon> Is that a terrible joke I missed T3sl4 ?
32:27 <T3sl4> Halcyon: the metal-can packages are archaic and expensive
32:46 <Halcyon> Yes, but the look... soviet
32:53 <Halcyon> *they
33:06 <arch> actually, why don't i do this? the increased current draw is maybe a few dozen nanoAmps, so it shouldn't really matter, right? https://i.imgur.com/gtIfwwV.png
33:19 <arch> on the opamp input*
33:26 <T3sl4> arch: bahaha, the SEM picture what even is that, some random MOSFET?
33:57 <arch> i dont really know what that is lol
34:17 <T3sl4> opamps don't blow up from saturating, and if they do then apparently that's a damned good reason to avoid the OPA2325?
34:35 <arch> lol
34:40 <T3sl4> arch: increasing capacitive loading, but that's fine too
34:57 <T3sl4> but notice if UNIV_THING goes to zero, it's still grounded :^)
35:31 <steve30> I think its bedtime soon
35:36 <arch> yeah, im cool with added capacitive loading. univ thing is just a DAC output. it varies from 2.2V typical (minimum brightness) to 3.3V (max brightness)
35:59 <arch> sorry i mean 2.2V to 5V
36:06 <arch> i dont need the full 5V range
36:26 <T3sl4> ah
37:53 <arch> yeah, the universal LCD driver board has a DAC that outputs from 2.2V to 5V to the backlight ADJ pin of the CCFL inverter. i am not using the CCFL inverter, but rather the PSU and CCFL inverters onboard the TV. and the TV uses 2.2V to 3.3V DAC instead, which is why i put the resistor divider
37:55 * steve30 curls up next to Halcyon 
39:25 <Halcyon> :)
39:32 <Halcyon> Why don't you do a live stream Steve?
39:46 <Halcyon> Q&A with Stee... I'm sure others apart from myself would watch
40:12 <steve30> I'm not geared up for live video. It might be doable at some point though.
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45:28 <Halcyon> Surely you have a firewire cable and port?
45:49 <steve30> I don't have Firewire on my modern PC
46:00 <Halcyon> Bah
46:32 <arch> donarudo is 20% lagging behind. still too early to call it.
46:44 * arch stops selling his MAGA merch for pennies on the dollar...temporarily
46:50 <Halcyon> :P
47:08 <Halcyon> He should have gone with our slogan... Make America less shit
47:53 <arch> "describe the USA in a few words"... sometimes mebbe good, sometimes mebbe shit *italian accent*
48:31 <arch> alternatively, "coca-cola, sometimes war"
48:52 <T3sl4> so, war it is?
50:29 <arch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHUbtR0yI8
50:30 <Halcyon> Hehehe
51:36 Quit: Dude ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
04:04 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1OLvekAnAs
10:37 <hsn> T3sl4,
10:52 <hsn> ur friend biden is winning ?
11:10 <T3sl4> i wouldn't call him my friend?
11:13 <T3sl4> but i guess so
16:37 <hsn> u voted for him ?
19:06 <T3sl4> i voted weeks ago
20:35 <hsn> so u friend with him weeks ago ?
20:36 <hsn> :D
22:44 <Halcyon> Holy crap most of those look amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn4d5SXtxoM
22:51 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
28:27 <hsn> https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/530600/is-there-any-way-to-average-resistors-together-to-get-a-tighter-overall-resistan
28:47 <hsn> yum fried
28:50 <hsn> fries
33:15 <hsn> https://youtu.be/xaRM8kvS1m0
33:28 <hsn> lel
55:22 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
02:50 Quit: Polesch ([email protected]) Connection closed
11:28 <damian> afternoons
21:36 Quit: Polesch ([email protected]) EOF from client
21:56 <hsn> abend
22:28 <Ysjoelfir> nah, its not that late :P
26:48 <hsn> hey im trying to show i've spectrum of words :D
26:56 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
26:58 <hsn> im expert in morgen now .. need to change
26:59 <hsn> :D
27:00 * Ysjoelfir cheers to hsn
28:03 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, https://youtu.be/eOvibLXJxQ8
28:24 <Ysjoelfir> omfg :D
28:56 <hsn> see im expert :D
29:00 <Halcyon> Do we know who won yet?
29:25 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer that :P We had that at the "WAKE UP!" song back when I was at the boyscouts.
29:26 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdZX3a3fLzw
30:32 <T3sl4> it'll be a few days until everything's counted, or weeks until the assholes are done dragging them through the courts
31:01 <Halcyon> Heh
31:35 <hsn> my boss loves trump
31:42 <hsn> and hates biden
32:11 <Halcyon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648911415708483597/773354669900562432/El7RGLXXIAQ3808.png
32:41 <hsn> all are pigs
33:45 * T3sl4 noogies Ysjoelfir
33:56 <Ysjoelfir> uuuh
33:59 <T3sl4> in minnesota i believe
42:59 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
43:00 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
43:05 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeeee \o/
43:10 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir
44:34 * Ysjoelfir hugs T3sl4 back
46:37 <Ysjoelfir> So I heard you guys can't realy decide who you want to have as your new lord and savior?
49:28 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
54:18 <Halcyon> Evening all
54:51 <Ysjoelfir> mornings Halcyon
55:48 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
03:13 <rust_collector> hsn, you should learn this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWOUi0PVTXw
04:27 <hsn> rust_collector, aus tirol .. do u have sand version ?
05:49 <Ysjoelfir> so my power company just send me an e-mail, demanding that I tell them the electricity counters current value, stating that I didn't yet report to their last question to that. I checked - there was no question from them before. So I went to the counter, checked the value, went back to the PC, typed it into the form they provided - "You can't add this value at this date as it can't be added to the current bill!" - checked the mail
05:50 <Ysjoelfir> which arrived yesterday: "You have to add this to the bill before november 5th 2020!"...... Idiots
06:07 <Ysjoelfir> oh no, not Anton aus Tirol :D
06:30 <Ysjoelfir> If you realy need Dj. Ötzi please at least look at "Servus die Wadln".
07:39 <rust_collector> abdul of sand was a good song, but it does nto teach you much german
08:43 <Ysjoelfir> anton aus Tirol doesn't either :P thats german with an austrian ( Nevoness, shame on you!) or bavarian accent, which is equally not german! XD
09:32 <rust_collector> yeah yeah... same same
10:35 <rust_collector> I did not think he would survive the shame of watching rammstein videos
10:59 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
11:53 <Ysjoelfir> then maybe that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19RE_GTO3n0
12:34 <Ysjoelfir> or is that to sexual for hsns king?
13:33 <rust_collector> probably, it would be ok if she had a bag over her head
13:43 <Ysjoelfir> xD
13:48 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: I want beef
14:36 <Ysjoelfir> By the way, you se that this is totally playback. She's one of those artists that can't perform live. I hate that, so many people making music just can't sing and HAVE to have autotune
14:58 <hsn> <Ysjoelfir> which arrived yesterday: "You have to add this to the bill before november 5th 2020!"...... Idiot
15:06 <hsn> i understood nothing .. but yeah .. idiots ..
15:15 <rust_collector> I don't have a problem with that. but they can stop trying to perform live, if they can not
15:23 <rust_collector> I like vanilla ice too
15:25 <hsn> as its 5th november didnt came yet
15:30 <hsn> noobs
15:54 <hsn> maybe they need some dates Ysjoelfir
15:57 <hsn> :D
15:57 <Ysjoelfir> [09:15:15] <rust_collector> I don't have a problem with that. but they can stop trying to perform live, if they can not <-- thats exactly my oppinion
16:16 <Ysjoelfir> I won't share my date cookies! Bad enough that I already put half of them aside for rusty xD
16:29 <hsn> wait where is the opinion ? .. meh .. /me joins the opinion gang
16:48 <hsn> i agree with all
16:52 <Ysjoelfir> hehe^^
17:06 <hsn> also the lady dancer
17:16 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ySJJMu8ReY here is the "non live" version. notice that its EXACTLY identical to the "LIVE" version
17:18 * Ysjoelfir draws a "I want beef for president!" sign and hands it to Halcyon
17:27 <hsn> my king would enjoy
17:41 <Ysjoelfir> having her in his harem?
20:27 <hsn> kings here are not very religious
20:29 <hsn> :D
21:10 <hsn> idk .. about harems
21:11 <hsn> :D
21:14 <Ysjoelfir> oh :D
21:19 <T3sl4> you have your own election sausage, don't ask Ysjoelfir for one
23:44 <rust_collector> well, go find out?
25:12 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamad_bin_Isa_Al_Khalifa#Personal_life
25:13 <hsn> rust_collector,
25:17 <hsn> maximum reached
25:24 <hsn> wife overflow happened
25:56 <rust_collector> I think I have to post this one, even if it has very little german in it... but it makes me think of sand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx1qdTx6Lzg
26:06 <damian> wat
27:08 <hsn> lol wtf
27:22 <hsn> this is song or griefing
28:13 <rust_collector> he is from denmark, you have to excuse them, as they are unable to speak. But it is a good night story
28:18 <T3sl4> Halcyon, https://i.imgur.com/bMc3hST.jpg
28:22 <Ysjoelfir> rofl
28:32 <Ysjoelfir> the danish with their hot potato in the mouth...
30:17 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, so that you understand what we talk about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95eq0AzQ7Mw
30:42 <K> hello
31:18 <hsn> What the crap .. cant this step be done while the fcking gui is running https://imgur.com/a/TeovYd2
31:25 <Ysjoelfir> hi K
32:01 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, yes the english part
32:14 <Ysjoelfir> activate the subtitles :)
34:31 <Ysjoelfir> Maybe thats easier, as it has text and only simple words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isDcz-5fAF0
34:45 <Halcyon> Beaver
34:47 <Halcyon> ?
35:21 <hsn> ur nice from inside in danish Ysjoelfir
35:41 <Ysjoelfir> notice that the danish one (red) sounds very muffled, which is why the rustilandish people always make fun of them. :P
36:26 <Ysjoelfir> It gets very noticable here https://youtu.be/isDcz-5fAF0?t=124 xD
36:34 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq1lYz_Q0Ko
36:39 <hsn> ah
36:40 <Ysjoelfir> If I would try to say it like that I would already have swallowed my tongue
36:43 <hsn> i see
36:51 <hsn> which one is the one making fun of mr rust
37:35 <hsn> Its a: "das Würstchen Bitte" sign
37:44 <Ysjoelfir> blue is swedish, grey is norwegian, red is danish
37:55 <Ysjoelfir> grey and blue make fun of red :P
37:58 <hsn> rust_collector,
38:03 <rust_collector> OI!
38:10 <hsn> do u know which material is this die made from
38:11 <hsn> https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/pyramid-type-jewellery-die-19867394897.html
39:17 <rust_collector> with any luck, it is tool steel
40:42 <hsn> how hard is it to make jewerly dies .. like does it require lots of machine investment ?
40:58 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D I enjoyed that clip rusty :D it seems strangely familiar
42:24 <hsn> i've a friend who has jewerly workshop .. with this exact machine
42:26 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/NGsRjb8cHgc48tuf7
42:27 <rust_collector> it is not hard, you can make dies with a drill and a file, or if you are really into it, you can rub a piece of steel with pebbles until it has the correct shape. I would consider hardening it AFTER shaping it with pebbles
42:35 <hsn> with lots of dies that he imports from india ..
42:57 <rust_collector> get a milling machine, and you can do a lot
43:30 <hsn> just like https://images.app.goo.gl/XeNsUrK9FP8Ru2jMA
43:51 <rust_collector> heh, it is fun to see a fly press again. I thought they were only a thing in a special corner of youtube
44:25 <rust_collector> what material would you press in that?
44:35 <hsn> gold
44:38 <hsn> silver
44:56 <rust_collector> hmm. so not too too hard stuff.
45:03 <hsn> nah
46:04 <hsn> one pin is embosing ..
46:06 <rust_collector> well, I think you need a bit of tools to make many of those, but it is not too too much stuff either
46:08 <hsn> the second cutting
48:04 <hsn> does it have to be the "strong one workshop green heavy duty" ..
48:10 <hsn> or somthing like this can do https://www.mekanika.io/shop/product/cnc-milling-machine-1685
50:39 <rust_collector> that is not a milling machine.... it is a router. and it is probably not ideal for this
51:19 <hsn> so this
51:20 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/qjDxdpVYRkzkzHza7
51:51 <rust_collector> it does not need to be huge, but it is important that it is painted ral classic 6011
52:57 <K> that is not a milling machine, that is a cnc router
53:14 <rust_collector> https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/mini-vertical-milling-cum-drilling-machine-18936985830.html
53:20 <rust_collector> something like that would do
53:28 <K> yes
54:01 <hsn> K can a cnc router act like a milling cnc machine though ? no ?
54:01 <rust_collector> it is still small and sort of budget friendly-ish
54:10 <rust_collector> to some degree it can
54:45 <hsn> ^ but this is not great for cad design right ?
54:53 <K> eh, in the sense that proper mill can also work with plastic and wood (ugh) - yes
54:55 <hsn> requires somone to adjust lots manually
55:19 <K> will that puny thing work with steel - nope, it is going to die.
55:48 <hsn> yes it will .. agreed :D
56:20 <rust_collector> some more heavy routers can get it done, sort of, but that thing looks more like a reconfigured inkjet printer
56:20 <K> you prolly have some companies offering cnc services in your area
56:28 <K> ask around
56:39 <hsn> https://hotonmachinery.en.made-in-china.com/product/RKomkTBEOtUN/China-Bench-Geared-Head-Auto-Feeding-Drilling-Milling-Tapping-Machine-ZX45-.html
56:40 <K> or better, ask your mechanical department ppl, they prolly know
57:06 <K> that is not cnc
57:14 * Ysjoelfir just adds an in my oppinion excellent video about the language thing for hsn to understand nordish languages https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onduQjgAj8Y
57:26 * Ysjoelfir disappears again to not disturbe the discussion
57:30 <rust_collector> yeah, the 40 or 45 will do fine. but it is still a manual machine
57:46 <hsn> K i've trust issues to lots of ppl here locally .. they tend to give bad answers fast if u dont know specially ...
57:47 <K> not sure how well those convert into cnc without extra hassle
58:15 <K> hm, that is bad.
58:30 <hsn> rust_collector, yes u right .. manual but with keypad to enter numbers...
58:43 <rust_collector> meh, it should be fairly straight forward, but... if it is worth it... cnc more for production work, imo, and that thing is not
59:02 <K> numbers entry is for digital readouts
59:14 <K> you still ned to turn knobs an levers with your hands
59:23 <rust_collector> hsn, that is a dro, digital readout, it is very handy, but it does not move the machine
59:33 <K> dro is a must though for any mill
59:33 <hsn> ok so i would guess it doesnt worth to invest in cnc milling .. i dont think one jewerly workshop will do lots of design and utilize its value
59:40 <rust_collector> it just show you how far the machine has moved
59:59 <Ysjoelfir> its basically like screwing a caliper to your mill
00:04 <hsn> ok ,, understood .. just feedback .. no control
00:04 <Ysjoelfir> a digital one
00:08 <K> a very good and precise caliper
00:16 <K> 3 of them
00:17 <rust_collector> well. some are cheap
00:55 <Ysjoelfir> I actually think about adding Calipers to my new lathe. for the precision I need the cheap 10€ ones will be good enough
01:34 <K> eh
01:38 <K> maybe
02:06 <rust_collector> the cheapo calipers tend to have a "serial port".... just saying
02:41 <hsn> ok .. so the other question .. if i design this .. how much it would take to manufacture it .. as a service : https://images.app.goo.gl/uuWytGAkFvhVX83Q8
03:11 <rust_collector> the best answer is... probably... yes!
03:28 <hsn> as he buy them from india .. 50$ per die .. without shipping ..
03:39 <K> https://kamelrechner.eu/en
03:42 <K> (meanwhile)
03:51 <K> probably more than 50$
03:52 <K> hello
03:53 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
03:57 <hsn> not stainless steeel ^
04:05 <hsn> ah ok so 50 is cheap
04:20 <rust_collector> making the blocks should be cheap-ish, but if you need to "engrave" something in there...
04:21 <K> but is just my guess
04:39 <K> do not know whole lot about die making
04:41 <hsn> the ingrave part is very small
04:47 <hsn> engrave
04:58 <rust_collector> sure, but it is still most of the work
05:09 <hsn> ah yes ..
05:10 <K> if that is a manual work, then that will cost soe
05:13 <K> some
06:00 <K> like - placing the part in the machine, puttin in the code for it, taking the part out, inspecting, postprocessing - that all is manual labour
06:21 <rust_collector> K is still in cnc land, lol
06:27 <K> that 50$ seems reasonable to me
06:42 <K> well, without cnc you would have to get out the file and pebbles eh
07:12 <rust_collector> well, it depends on the shapes you want to make, I guess?
07:25 <K> prolly,
07:29 <K> translates to machine time
07:33 <rust_collector> even a dremel will do a lot.
07:44 <K> dremel will do "art", no doubt
07:54 <K> unique and special!
08:04 <rust_collector> yes, but this is sort of art things... how many times will each thing be used?
08:21 <K> doorstops dont wear out that fast
09:38 <rust_collector> I guess it is a fairly low force thing, as he uses a fly press.
09:56 <hsn> I worth 57 camels ?;
10:31 <rust_collector> hsn, how often does he have to replace these things?
10:40 <hsn> the dies ?
10:43 <rust_collector> yes
11:01 <hsn> hmmm he told me a number yesterday but i forgot
11:05 <hsn> lemme ask
11:06 <hsn> again
11:30 <K> weak
11:39 <Ysjoelfir> mrs spouse is worth 51! I should consider that
11:50 <hsn> or he probably didnt .. bcz he is new into stuff but want to expand his process ..
12:19 <Ysjoelfir> and I am 62 camels worth!
12:31 <rust_collector> expand by adding shapes, or number of presses?
12:31 <Ysjoelfir> aaand my ex girlfriends....
12:46 <K> 49 cammels for me
12:49 <hsn> every shape they order new die ..
12:59 <rust_collector> yes,
13:14 <hsn> and i dont think they do so many rinnggs ... i guess dies stay there for long time
13:16 <Ysjoelfir> ex 1 is 49, so I made a good deal by swapping her for mrs spouse!
13:23 <K> idea that EDM would be a good process for this pops in my head
13:32 <rust_collector> yea, it would
13:36 <hsn> EDM ?
13:42 <Ysjoelfir> damn
13:47 <Ysjoelfir> ex 2 is 71 >_>
13:49 <K> would work with hardended steel like noones business
13:52 <hsn> spark
13:53 <hsn> machining
13:55 <hsn> ?
13:56 <K> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_discharge_machining
13:59 <K> yea
14:10 <rust_collector> you throw sparks at a block of metal until it sparks away enough to get the shape you want
14:30 <K> how much is a camel worth in some monetary units, though?
14:44 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 71 camels to euro
14:44 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
14:46 <Ysjoelfir> hm
14:50 <hsn> oh is it the wire cutting type ?
14:57 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, I am very disappointed.
15:15 <rust_collector> there is wire edm, but it is not used as a wire as suchhhhhhh
15:45 <rust_collector> it is an electrode, and it "burns" the metal away
15:53 <rust_collector> sort of
16:58 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBueWfzb7P0
17:32 <T3sl4> Also known as Electrical Dance Machining
17:36 <hsn> oh crap thats nice and lot
17:47 <Halcyon> Heheh Durchfluss
17:54 <Halcyon> I love German words
18:30 <rust_collector> in theory, there is just one german word, that they split up into the part they need
18:57 <Halcyon> Mmm ?
19:24 <rust_collector> every german word is really just a part of the german word
20:23 <Ysjoelfir> Composita!
20:35 <Ysjoelfir> erm
20:37 <Ysjoelfir> *Komposita
20:41 <rust_collector> is that also a moldy tea?
20:46 <Ysjoelfir> or in english Composite words!
20:59 <Halcyon> I was watching this Ysjoelfir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LseK5gp66u8
21:41 <Ysjoelfir> yep, thats correct. and thats actually not to far from where I was born.
22:53 <rust_collector> it could actually be his fault... but we should not talk about his childhood
23:00 <Ysjoelfir> lol
25:48 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon https://snipboard.io/qXrD3Q.jpg the red dot is where the guy from the video is, the S is where my mum is (and where I grew up), and down where the green flag is is where I live right now
26:03 <Halcyon> YAY now I can stalk you :P
26:13 <Ysjoelfir> lol
26:18 <hsn> K depends if the camel is kim kardashian it will worth millions
26:33 <rust_collector> YAY! now I can stalk your mum
26:41 <Halcyon> Hahahaha
27:10 <rust_collector> we have sort of exchanged greetings, so that is fine
27:12 <hsn> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-05/saudi-camel-beauty-pageants-tradition/10283310
27:36 <Ysjoelfir> hehe^^
27:47 <Halcyon> You're terrible
28:09 <rust_collector> yes, he is. notice that sarcastic hehe?
29:04 <rust_collector> hmm, how long does it take to go to luxembourg?
29:06 <K> oh my
29:09 <K> yall terrible
29:16 <rust_collector> hey K!
29:53 <rust_collector> at least t4mKdz is not here rubbing everyone with garlic yet
29:57 <Halcyon> I love this old vending machine with the nixie tubes: https://youtu.be/f7wYH1FvsA0?t=422
30:23 <rust_collector> ooooh
30:45 <Halcyon> I have a fascination with Japanese vending machine food. It always seems to look quite good.
30:52 <Halcyon> And the variety is amazing
31:12 <K> too bad an apple costs an arm and a leg there
31:25 <K> or so i am told
31:28 <rust_collector> well... there are other things there
33:23 <rust_collector> I do wonder why all the very weird stuff always happen in japan
34:03 <hsn> https://www.centroidcnc.com/compactmill.htm
34:13 <rust_collector> not only weird game shows, but...
34:42 <rust_collector> they like kei cars, but they have a racing series for dodge vans...
34:50 <Halcyon> Sydney to Osaka is about $930 return
34:54 <Halcyon> (For economy)
35:50 <hsn> https://youtu.be/O0KtxgDNt_0 oh nice
35:54 <rust_collector> beats walking there
37:45 <rust_collector> hsn, I think you should buy a 5 axis cnc mill-lathe, work will find you. and most of the work-work in on the confuser...when you are done learning how to use it
38:18 <Halcyon> Ampera: https://http.cat/
38:29 <Halcyon> Actually T3sl4, you suck enough to like that too
38:48 <T3sl4> stupid Halcyon
38:55 <hsn> rust_collector, i wanna one for tiny DIY home desktop poor guy :D
39:34 <rust_collector> you might as well buy a proper big one, so you can make stuff someone wants to pay money for
40:14 <rust_collector> and when you are not using it, you can put a mattress in it, and live in it... which I guess you would have to, if you bought one
41:00 <rust_collector> for diy desktop things, get a router
42:02 <rust_collector> just stay with aluminium or softer materials, most of the time.
42:18 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, to luxemburg from my place its.. roughly 3 hours
42:48 <rust_collector> hmm
42:52 <rust_collector> interesting
43:18 <Ysjoelfir> But driving in luxemburg is like I would immagine driving in shittown
43:25 <rust_collector> oh, I know
44:26 <rust_collector> my ex-ex-ex boss has a house there, we used to go there when we were stuck in that area
45:07 <hsn> Fck win updates
45:32 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
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46:10 <rust_collector> it was better than bouncing thru belgium, imo
48:11 <rust_collector> I just have some issues with estimating distance on maps
48:46 <Ysjoelfir> xD
54:08 <hsn> rust_collector, when u say ex-ex-ex boss
54:25 <hsn> is is porn boss "xxx boss" ?
54:27 <hsn> or
54:34 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
54:58 <hsn> is it "ex boss of the ex boss of your ex boss"
55:00 <rust_collector> I guess it is not a problem, as you are not allowed on half of the internet anyway?
55:48 <rust_collector> I never did anything in print...
55:56 <hsn> rust_collector, my mind scratches if i dont know which one :D
56:39 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iC0YXspJRM
57:15 <hsn> rust the guy answer for how many it lasts
57:24 <hsn> "too much .. for years" ..
57:47 <rust_collector> what?
57:56 <hsn> :D
58:09 <rust_collector> OOH little doggie
58:14 <hsn> i know .. but he is answering based on his usage .. he wont know
58:38 <rust_collector> oh, right
58:38 <hsn> Pixies - Where Is My Mind
58:51 <rust_collector> try this trick
59:04 <rust_collector> and spin it
59:20 <hsn> trick ?
59:56 <rust_collector> With your feet on the air and your head on the ground
00:36 <hsn> my nick cant hold my feet
01:02 <rust_collector> Mightiest am I, but I am not alone in this cosmos of mine.
01:51 <rust_collector> hrrrmm, so...
05:12 <hsn> erm
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05:32 <Ysjoelfir> hsn
05:42 <hsn> yes darling
06:06 <hsn> is darling only used for "love" ?
06:23 <Ysjoelfir> I'm watching that language guy while working right now and came acros a video that should explain why you were so confused about german / dutch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWVKzdyWRps
06:56 <hsn> yess
06:58 <Ysjoelfir> darling is used for... sweetheart, my love, stuff like that. basically you say that to your spouse, or to a good friend when joking :)
07:47 <rust_collector> or if you are an older english bloke wearing a kai-hat,
08:02 <rust_collector> ordering a pint
08:34 <hsn> The pint is a unit of volume or capacity in both the imperial and United States customary measurement systems. In both of those systems it is traditionally one eighth of a gallon
09:24 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, this guy inserts sounds of different ppl
09:30 <hsn> in his video
09:32 <hsn> is annoying
10:19 <Ysjoelfir> I watch that gui for quite some time. some while back he explained why
10:22 <Ysjoelfir> *guy
10:50 <hsn> es ist sonnnig
10:56 <rust_collector> this guy inserts sounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL4mhSW8KdI
10:59 <Ysjoelfir> the idea is, that he doesn't want to make a mistake when educating about languages, so he uses native speakers to have the perfect pronounciation
10:59 <hsn> lol it has been always es ist sonnning
12:22 <hsn> noticed
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22:14 <Ysjoelfir> hrmpf.. my left leg is strangely hurting. like a mini cramp
23:53 <rust_collector> it is an age thing...
24:03 <Ysjoelfir> probably
24:09 <Ysjoelfir> but its annoying.
24:39 <Ysjoelfir> I have a question for you guys.
24:43 <rust_collector> hmm, do you get enough... hmm what was it... zink? it was some metal
25:04 <rust_collector> magnesium?
25:07 <Ysjoelfir> magnesium IIRC. and no, probably not
27:09 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El99U7hVkAE8xyP?format=png&name=large
27:32 * T3sl4 nod
27:42 <hsn> question
27:44 <hsn> for us
28:28 <Halcyon> Do it
28:29 <Halcyon> :P
29:29 <Ysjoelfir> I applied for a job at german government and they invited me to a initial talk. I would have to travel 500km for that. I personally don't realy feel comfortable immagining myself working there and I would agree to stay at least five years. it involves an 18 month education with pretty piss poor payment. since its a government thing I wouldn't pay into the retirement insurance so I would have at least five years not paid, which mea
29:29 <Ysjoelfir> amount of money I would miss out on, if I decide to leave that job ever again. I could get moved at their free will around germany and into conflict zones if neccessary. OTOH I would have a 100% safe job.
30:48 <Ysjoelfir> Mum and Spouse are like "you have to try at least and talk to them to see how it is working there" - but I applied for a government agency some years back already and as its the same application type I already know that I won't see anything of the stuff I would be working on before I signed the contract.
30:49 <rust_collector> is it in any way somethign that is interesting to you?
31:09 <Ysjoelfir> it could be interesting, but I doubt its something I would want to do my whole life
31:39 <rust_collector> it is at least 25 years since people got jobs for life
32:19 <rust_collector> if you can get by while training... mmh, yes, go talk to them
33:28 <Ysjoelfir> indeed. this is one of the last jobs in germany that have the "Verbeamtung" (according to the dictionary [appointment as a tenured German civil servant] - working for the government with special privileges)
33:38 <Ysjoelfir> or better, one of the last employers
34:54 <Ysjoelfir> but I realy don't feel comfortable and can't immagine myself in that job forever... and also, a big part of my depression therapy went around not bending to what people think is best for me, but deciding myself. and again I ask for advice :X damn... xD
35:44 <hsn> can u imagine ur self for 5 years ?
35:54 <hsn> in that job ^
36:45 <Ysjoelfir> five years is a long time... I don't think so. but otoh I would love a good safe job for life XCD
37:57 <rust_collector> tomg goes fast when you look back at it... I have had this shitty job for 15 years now, and it just feels like 20
38:07 <rust_collector> time, damnit
39:00 <rust_collector> but having a job that you have is worth something...
39:24 <hsn> is it good "time wise" ?
39:43 <hsn> in here goverment jobs are much less working hours than private .. u feel u still have a day
39:57 <hsn> after work
40:13 <Ysjoelfir> nope, its completely identical in this case.
40:40 <rust_collector> hmmm. government and Ysjoelfir combined... maybe you will get to mess with some very large vacuum tubes
41:11 <Ysjoelfir> heh. no, not in this agency. I would end up in a bunker in iraq maybe.
41:17 <Ysjoelfir> doubt they have toobs there
41:24 <rust_collector> hmmm
42:48 <rust_collector> I think.... if it was me... sure I would go to iraq, but I would not be there for very long, I think.
44:02 <rust_collector> if I would spend a year and a bit before going to iraq for not very very long... I don't think so?
46:50 <Ysjoelfir> I can't realy immagine how long I would be there, if at all. If WW3 strikes it would be very possible that I would be wherever that happenes to be. Or any other conflict where germanistan is involved
47:05 <rust_collector> hsn, I think you people just work longer days than government people, because government people work regular times, like the decadent west.
47:16 <Ysjoelfir> probably^^
47:35 <rust_collector> meh, ww3 will happen on email, it will be fine
47:48 <Ysjoelfir> lol
48:04 <rust_collector> a very nasty thread on reddit, probably
50:26 <rust_collector> ok, my vote is.... probably no....
50:54 <K> no on what?
51:01 <rust_collector> the only positive thing I can see, is that you would have a job
51:06 <K> Ys going to Iraq?
52:13 <rust_collector> having 1.5 years of crap pay to learn to do something he probably do not really want to do. no matter where it is
52:32 <K> ah :/
52:43 <hsn> rust_collector, yes that .. except they dont really work :D
52:55 <hsn> cya took half day .. im flying home
53:08 <K> can you "nope, bye" while in that training?
53:13 <rust_collector> hsn, I know, I am after all government owned
53:23 <Ysjoelfir> what rusty said, and potentially going to some conflict areas.
53:31 <Ysjoelfir> K - nope. if I sign, then I'm in
53:36 <Ysjoelfir> for 5 years minimum
53:40 <K> sounds like army
53:47 <Ysjoelfir> and the 5 years are on top of the 1.5 years training
54:05 <rust_collector> sounds like other agency, working where the army also is, imo
54:11 <Ysjoelfir> yes, the army would be the employer. but I wouldn't be a soldier
54:15 <rust_collector> but that is details
56:08 <rust_collector> otoh, you could make dried banana slices with crusty sugar in the sun
57:01 <rust_collector> do you have any idea about how long you would be away, and how long you would be home?
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57:57 <Ysjoelfir> nope. Job description literally says "you agree that we can use you wherever we want for whatever time is neccessary
57:58 <Ysjoelfir> "
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58:31 <rust_collector> well, yea, but...
58:51 <rust_collector> blah
04:18 <rust_collector> hmm, what did you get again, was it a bachelor or master, or?
08:13 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, ?
09:28 <rust_collector> https://ec.europa.eu/eures/portal/jv-se/jv-details/MTI0NjUtNTQwNTE4LTEtUyAx?jvDisplayLanguage=de
09:42 <rust_collector> I guess you have seen that anyway
23:56 <Ysjoelfir> bachelor, sorry, had to clean the staircase as mrs. landlorlady arrived
24:45 <Ysjoelfir> but I haven't seen that yet, nor this website in general. I will look into it
24:47 <Ysjoelfir> thanks
26:34 <rust_collector> there is also an internship at infineon, in munchen.... but it looks more computer-ish
32:44 <Ysjoelfir> nah. I hate southern germany. don''t want to go tzhere
33:01 <rust_collector> I have noticed that...
33:41 <rust_collector> I was just thinking that it is easier to get on the train from munich then from iraq
33:54 <Ysjoelfir> lol
37:10 <rust_collector> psssshttt, I need to make more coffee
37:20 <Ysjoelfir> make some tea for me, too, ok?
38:43 <rust_collector> it is roasted bean tea
39:02 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer fermented leaves :P
39:07 <Ysjoelfir> with milk and lots of sweetener
39:16 <rust_collector> yes, but I am trying to fix you
40:39 <rust_collector> crap, the weather is awesome today. I migh thave to do something a bit later
40:48 <Ysjoelfir> ew, doing stuff
40:52 <rust_collector> I know
41:43 <rust_collector> I should paint the window trim, now that the window is replaced, and it is not raining sideways
45:31 <rust_collector> and all the other things
45:40 <rust_collector> but now it is time for bean tea
47:23 <K> nothenr savages
50:09 <rust_collector> hell-o
00:58 <Ysjoelfir> I decided.
02:58 <rust_collector> good. so good luck with that
04:25 <Ysjoelfir> No, I decided against it. I won't go there
04:46 <rust_collector> I don't care. as long as you figured i tout
05:52 <rust_collector> so, good luck with that
06:03 <Ysjoelfir> heh. typical nordmen :P
06:14 <rust_collector> eh?
06:25 <Ysjoelfir> Other people? Pf, not my business^^
06:48 <rust_collector> nah, but it was your thing to figure out, and you did, so that is good
07:11 <Ysjoelfir> I know. Just wanted to make a joke to... dunno, kind of cheer me up perhaps?
07:35 <T3sl4> hrm, made good progress on this encoder
07:43 <rust_collector> yeah, just make fun of the uneducated
08:00 * Ysjoelfir hands T3sl4 an enigma
08:12 <rust_collector> TA DAA!!!
08:15 <T3sl4> i'm adapting https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/T3sl4co1l/st7735_gfx/blob/master/compr.html for encoding bitmap fonts
08:41 * T3sl4 belchly parks at Ysjoelfir
08:45 <K> what does it encode?
09:00 <T3sl4> K: the stuff dreams are made of.
09:03 <K> eew, html
09:09 <T3sl4> look closer
09:17 <T3sl4> it's the trifuckta HTML CSS JS
09:18 <rust_collector> whatever you stuff into it
09:20 <T3sl4> >:D
09:46 <rust_collector> dream snuff...
09:54 <rust_collector> goo times
10:07 <T3sl4> snuff films are a goo time
11:40 <T3sl4> but now that i've molded most of the boilerplate into suitable form, i'm a bit tired to write the actual codec
11:51 <T3sl4> perhaps i'll return in the morn
39:38 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder... has someone made his own small telephone central thing? like using Asterisk or whatever? the steve30 maybe?
40:44 <rust_collector> you have wires with banana plugs... make an old style switchboard
41:01 <rust_collector> hello? can I have number 4 please?
42:20 <Ysjoelfir> xD I would love to still have that. I like the old telephones with the hand crank thing, or the battery powered ones that were just a stick with a funnel to shout into and a second funnel on a wire you hold to your ear
43:32 <rust_collector> grandma had a big box on the wall, with the shouting funnel on the side, and the hand stick to listen to
43:41 <rust_collector> ericsson
44:32 <rust_collector> i rememeber it had some scary stuff inside, and also some nice horseshoe magnets
49:18 <Ysjoelfir> I love old phones.
50:49 <rust_collector> I think this one had plain steel wires, from the top, and up to ceramic "knobs" near the roof, and into a hole in the wall
51:06 <rust_collector> it was some kind of bare wires anyway
53:15 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, old phones worked that way. just ~60V for the ringer, direct wires to the distribution, done.
53:29 <rust_collector> http://www.telephonecollecting.org/Bobs%20phones/Pages/AustPostOffice/TeleNo1.htm
53:52 <Ysjoelfir> Even though I never witnessed it in person I would love to have talked with the "Fräulein vom Amt", as the girls doing the connections at the switchpanels were called here
54:05 <Ysjoelfir> that thing looks massive
54:13 <rust_collector> it is
54:38 <rust_collector> but yes, it has a regular-ish hand...thing
54:47 <rust_collector> I wonder where that thing went
57:09 <rust_collector> now I wonder where I saw the phone with the yell-into-funnel on the case
58:06 <rust_collector> i like how it had a little desk with a little clip, to hold some paper
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