// #d&d — 2013-10-31
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00:05:32 <Damalon01> mornin'
00:20:48 <CWheezy> any late night pick up games?
00:22:58 <Steven> sure... whatcha running?
00:41:28 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup
00:47:02 <Ulzef> hi all
00:51:30 <Steven> got distracted this afternoon
00:51:42 <Steven> gotta finish my melee bard.
00:58:55 <Steven> so what u.
00:59:01 <Steven> up
01:05:35 <Steven> guess ill go back to playing hearthstone then
01:25:08 <Mekkis> Avatar
01:41:06 <Damalon01> mornin
01:42:55 * Steven bored as shit.
01:44:00 <Mekkis> hey hey
01:55:00 <Damalon01> whats up?
01:56:52 <Philderbeast> preping rise of the rune lords
01:58:54 <Damalon01> ooooo i like that AP. its got some holes but its a classic idea.
01:59:19 <Damalon01> what part of Rise of the Runelords are you up too?
01:59:34 <Philderbeast> we are due to start next week
01:59:53 <Damalon01> from the start? awesome
02:00:02 <Philderbeast> yep
02:00:14 <Damalon01> im a little envious of your players
02:00:30 <Damalon01> ive only really read the first two parts
02:00:40 <Damalon01> and browsed the rest
02:01:07 <Philderbeast> it seems good so far
02:01:11 <Philderbeast> but im only in the second chapter
02:01:24 <Damalon01> hi Ulzef
02:01:36 <Philderbeast> im just a little worried about how im going to balance it with a 6 player party cause im a rather inexperanced Gm
02:01:39 <Damalon01> one little problem I have with it is that i cant figure out how Justice Ironbriar casts Cat's Grace
02:01:52 <Damalon01> hes in Skinsaw murders
02:01:58 <Philderbeast> cause the GM says so?
02:02:08 <Damalon01> hehehe
02:02:14 <Philderbeast> i havent read that far yet
02:02:20 <Philderbeast> still reading burtn offerings
02:02:35 <Damalon01> if i were gming it id prolly just give him a potion or cut that from his AC no big deal
02:03:08 <Philderbeast> yea will see how we go when we get there
02:03:17 <Philderbeast> my PC's are going to be over powered for the encounters anyway
02:03:29 <Damalon01> too high level?
02:06:31 <Philderbeast> just being a 6 playre party and im doing 20point buy
02:06:42 <Philderbeast> im just going to level them as needed
02:11:07 <Avatar> forget hearthstone
02:11:35 <Steven> well nobody was around earlier
02:11:38 <Steven> had nothing to do.
02:11:46 <Steven> so i downloaded the beta invite i got.
02:14:18 <Avatar> why not play a better game
02:14:49 <Steven> dont have to pay for this?
02:15:04 <CWheezy> hearthstone is fine
02:15:20 <Damalon01> argh
02:15:38 <Damalon01> 20 point buy is fine but 6 players will destroy most of the encounters
02:15:44 <Steven> some parts of it are actually fun.
02:15:46 <Damalon01> at least until near the end
02:16:07 <Damalon01> ive read some of the encounters at the end of the AP and they are just nuts
02:17:17 <Steven> like stompin the shit out of people in the arena.
02:17:31 <Steven> the downside to that is of course that eventually you're the one who gets the shit stomped out of them
02:18:02 <Steven> or theres the situation that you finally stabalize vs a paladin and have a good board state
02:18:27 <Steven> and he goes equalize(set all minions Toughness to 1)
02:18:47 <Philderbeast> yea im looking to buff the encounters for them
02:18:49 <Steven> followed by whatever the fuck its called that does 1 damage to all minions.
02:19:01 <Damalon01> might be an idea early on
02:19:07 <Steven> costs like 4 mana to do... just fucking wrecks
02:19:07 <Philderbeast> part of my prep is working out what buffs to give the encounters
02:19:32 <Steven> have i mentioned how i hate paladins?
02:19:57 <Damalon01> id suggest simply adding a few extra goblins and stuff
02:20:17 <Steven> so wheezy whatcha gonna GM?
02:22:34 <Philderbeast> yea thats the plam
02:22:41 <Avatar> every afternoon I come home and hear about you being bored as shit steven
02:22:45 <Philderbeast> just got to work out how much to add as i go
02:22:50 <Avatar> you need to find a good game
02:22:53 <Steven> thats because im bored as shit!
02:26:21 <Philderbeast> im thinking ill just add 1 to the CR for most encounters that should even it out from my reading
02:27:19 <Steven> guess i'll go play video games
02:45:07 <Brunius|M> Mekkis: http://cardboard-crack.tumblr.com/post/59552785291
03:01:09 <Avatar> mekkis are you about
03:21:24 <Mekkis> Great News! Ashley will be running Seige of the Diamond City with one hour prep!
03:22:22 <Ulzef> purdy quite tonight
03:22:33 <Avatar> yeeeup
03:23:41 <Steven> that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
03:45:58 <Avatar> is that a joke
03:46:07 <Proquar> Doh
03:46:16 <Proquar> no can do 8 nov - i'm going to Cairns that weekend
03:46:28 <Avatar> it's a tier 5-9 anyway
03:46:33 <Avatar> next time gadget
03:46:43 <Steven> yo
03:49:34 <Ulzef> hello mr uber munchkin, still cannot work out how you get your ac that high
03:51:02 <Avatar> did you finish that list mekkis
03:51:10 <Steven> dont worry bout it, i'll gladly show you the build if you ever run a game for the character.
03:51:43 <Mekkis> I haven't added anything else to it, no
03:51:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's sarcasm
03:51:50 <Ulzef> yeah wish i could, thats not how my brain works though
03:51:52 <Avatar> is there more
03:51:58 <Avatar> yeah I thought so
03:52:17 <Mekkis> not really. There's a bit of extra stuff, but it's more incidental
03:52:27 <Avatar> link it over
03:52:34 <Mekkis> as in, it's "honest mistake", not "screw the players"
03:52:43 <Avatar> yeah that's fine
03:53:33 <Steven> well keep workin on it. I applied credit tonight, so now im gonna buy another item and up it again.
03:53:59 <Ulzef> is it done with no spell effects?
03:54:32 <Steven> i have faith in your ability to correctly identify the components of my AC.
03:56:23 <Mekkis> http://pastebin.com/kg18Spwp
03:57:21 <Avatar> Philderbeast: you know you can play a level 7 pregen for that game next friday if you want
03:57:28 <Steven> yo
03:57:34 <Avatar> mr steven
03:57:53 <Steven> thats Mr. Steven the Magnificent!
03:58:02 <Avatar> mr steven is fine
03:58:29 <Steven> Mr. Steven the Magnificent!!
03:58:33 <Brunius> oh yeah what's on friday
03:58:40 <Steven> no really i've been called that by people at the shop
03:59:06 <Avatar> the fabric of reality
03:59:13 <Brunius> wonder if I've played that one
03:59:24 <Avatar> did you get an email
03:59:33 <Brunius> yeah
03:59:39 <Avatar> what's your AC
03:59:48 <Brunius> 4-16
03:59:52 <Brunius> probably haven't then
04:00:13 <Steven> before start of combat?
04:00:15 <Brunius> it sounds familiar from the blurb
04:00:22 <Avatar> I don't know, on average
04:00:33 <Avatar> yeah before start of combat
04:00:42 <Steven> finished up the Evil Boons for my wizard tonight.
04:00:50 <Brunius> product review mentions a finish to the arc so it's probably just that I've played the earlier ones
04:00:51 <Steven> 27
04:01:08 <Brunius> what are the ones in the hao-jin tapestry arc?
04:01:09 <Ulzef> how many spells in effect before combat?
04:01:14 <Steven> Not wearing Armor.
04:01:46 <Avatar> it's not part of an arc
04:01:55 <Steven> now just gonna run Waking rune
04:02:12 <Steven> and my wizard is all buttoned up.
04:02:31 <Ulzef> and it is wielding a scyth correct?
04:02:41 <Steven> yes.
04:02:56 <Steven> before combat not using combat expertise or shield of swings.
04:02:56 <Brunius> uh
04:03:02 <Brunius> the blurb looks like it's part of an arc
04:03:12 <Brunius> is it not regarding the hao-jin tapestry?
04:03:29 <Ulzef> and no long term spells such as mage armor?
04:03:38 <Steven> its a secret!
04:03:40 <Proquar> ok penny
04:03:47 <Avatar> why is it a secret
04:03:54 <Avatar> yeah but it's not really part of the hao jin tapestry's "arc"
04:03:57 <Steven> because i want to toy with his mind.
04:04:00 <Avatar> is it illegal
04:04:08 <Steven> completely legal build.
04:04:11 <Avatar> it just elaborates on the season 3 plot
04:04:13 <Ulzef> i need my paramaters so i can see if i can work it out
04:04:14 <Avatar> you can tell us if it is
04:05:24 <Ulzef> :( i should be preping waking rune for paizocon oz but everytime i think of pathfinder i end up trying to work out this build
04:05:57 <Steven> focus focus.
04:08:24 <Ulzef> as a side not while on rage prophet do the levels in rage prophet count towards the level req for revelations if you pick them up with feats
04:09:48 <Brunius> guys
04:09:51 <Brunius> just a quick heads up
04:09:56 <Brunius> being sick sucks
04:09:57 <Brunius> a lot
04:10:05 <Steven> Savage Seer A rage prophet’s class level stacks with barbarian levels for determining the effect of his rage powers, oracle revelations, and his oracle’s curse. This does not grant additional abilities.
04:10:19 <Steven> the effect yes, to qualify no.
04:10:59 <Steven> i know the feelin mang
04:11:10 <CWheezy> I don't think it is a grey area for krune btw
04:11:16 <CWheezy> hmmm
04:11:23 <CWheezy> is what I am about to say a spoiler?
04:11:25 <Ulzef> so if it requires level 7 to take and you are 4 oracle 3 rage prophet and you uses the extra revaltion feat you can't get it?
04:11:35 <Steven> probably
04:11:38 <CWheezy> that krune is a wizard
04:12:14 <Brunius> smooth
04:12:20 <Steven> i left so i didnt see the spoiler
04:12:43 <CWheezy> you can read the scenario description and get the same spoiler I think
04:15:08 <Ulzef> was looking at the lunar oracles form of the beast
04:15:29 <Ulzef> figured it would go nice in a rage prophet build
04:15:43 <Steven> there are rings you can get that will allow you to select oracle powers
04:16:16 <Ulzef> really which book?
04:17:02 <Steven> !item ring of revelation
04:17:03 <diebot> Steven, RING OF EVASION [moderate transmutation] CL:7 ring 25000gp, 0lb
04:17:03 <diebot> This ring continually grants the wearer the ability to avoid damage as if she had evasion. Whenever she makes a Reflex saving throw to determine whether she takes half damage, a successful save results in no damage. Source: Ultimate Equipment
04:18:54 <Avatar> where is a good place to download music
04:19:09 <Steven> the internet.
04:19:17 <Avatar> can you be more specific
04:19:19 * Steven puts on his troll mask
04:19:29 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Fri 8th 6pm (tier 5-9,Avatar) || WotW: Sat 16th 1.30pm || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au .
04:19:29 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Oct 27 15:37:22 2013
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04:20:29 <Damalon01> i hope i get to play, id like to see how you gets do your online games
04:20:36 <Avatar> I want to pay for it, not pirate it
04:21:01 <Avatar> I'd buy them on google play but you can't get those off your device
04:23:28 <Steven> alright peace out im gonna go to sleep, been up entirely too long
04:29:02 <Avatar> just need the players
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04:43:01 <Damalon01> yeah. well heres hoping.
04:44:53 <Damalon01> i think im gonna go to, doesnt seem to be much going on
04:45:50 <Brunius> are there any PFS scenarios set on the high seas?
04:46:01 <Avatar> qfp
04:46:07 <Steven> several
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04:50:25 <Avatar> er, woops
04:50:35 <Avatar> I forgot to ask this morning if those jokers wanted a friday night game or saturday morning game
04:50:56 <Avatar> although I don't think any of them were on
05:02:10 <Damalon01> i want all of the pirate scenarios
05:29:39 <Avatar> no
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05:52:23 <ReaperSage> hello
06:05:04 <Steven> hey avatar
06:05:08 <Steven> im not bored as shit right now
06:05:42 <Avatar> reaper
06:07:10 <Mekkis> FYI Ulzef: the ring of revelation doesn't work that way
06:07:36 <Ulzef> yeah worked that out all ready
06:13:39 <Ulzef> :( trying not to think about oracles at the moment
06:14:00 <Ulzef> btw mekkis have you got a copy of diamond city yet?
06:14:43 <ReaperSage> hey
06:26:11 <Mekkis> yeah. But not on Paizo
06:26:33 <Mekkis> deadtree
06:27:33 <Mekkis> Proquar, why Cairns
06:27:41 <Mekkis> not Brisbane for Paizocon'
06:27:54 <Proquar> Bridge directors' seminar is on that weekend
06:28:11 <Proquar> i'm still pondering 'why cairns' however ;p
06:34:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm about no
06:34:07 <Mekkis> w
06:35:59 <Avatar> reaper
06:38:47 <Avatar> [00:32] <Mekkis> Avatar, have you sent the email?
06:38:47 <Avatar> [06:29] <Avatar> no
06:57:01 <Mekkis> when are you sending it?
06:58:48 <Ulzef> deadtree?
07:06:31 <Mekkis> printed media
07:21:50 <Mekkis> Damalon01, what's your reasoning on why you don't agree with it?
07:24:03 <Avatar> you only need to know basic rules to GM, not all the rules
07:24:04 <Ulzef_phone> brb see you all later
07:24:09 <Avatar> gg
07:24:20 <Ulzef_phone> on my way home
07:24:40 <Ulzef_phone> and darn you mekkis for dibzing the high tier
07:25:13 <Mekkis> Steven, what do you do when a VC violates Run as Written?
07:25:41 <Steven> yeah i've been playing for a few years and gm'd plenty but i still learn new rules.
07:25:41 <Steven> talk to VC
07:26:08 <Mekkis> he didn't seem to think there was a problem
07:26:35 <Damalon01> Mekkis, i think that until you can actually cast the spell it should count as being accessible. therefore, if you dont have access, you must use UMD or simply accept you cant cast spells. otherwise you can min max thing by taking a 10 in the controlling stat, say wisdom if your a ranger and still use wands even tho technically you cant cast spells.
07:26:53 <Damalon01> shouldnt count sorry
07:28:34 <Mekkis> I suppose my question is: Why do you think that preventing low-level rangers and paladins from using wands of cure light wounds would make the game Better?
07:28:57 <Damalon01> oh it may not make the game better as such
07:28:59 <Mekkis> because that's really what that stipulation covers 95% of the time
07:29:25 <Damalon01> it would cut down on the overuse and reliance on expendable items tho
07:29:40 <Mekkis> the direct effect it would have is that some groups would find out-of-combat healing much harder
07:30:15 <Damalon01> look at it this way perhaps: if its more challenging games you want why not effect it by cutting away some of the ease of access to healing and other consumable items?
07:30:16 <Mekkis> nothing wrong with reliance on expendable items. I rely a lot on fuel in my car.
07:30:47 <Damalon01> i dont rely on a car. i use public transport, my feet, call in favours
07:30:51 <Mekkis> it wouldn't make games more "challenging"
07:30:51 <Damalon01> so should my character
07:31:03 <Damalon01> relying on anything is a weaknes
07:31:04 <Mekkis> It would just make more groups unworkable
07:31:06 <Steven> every party around relies on a CLW/Infernal Healing to get them back up after a fight.
07:31:24 <Damalon01> personally i say more players should play healers
07:31:27 <Damalon01> just as good
07:31:37 <Damalon01> i have a healer
07:32:14 <Mekkis> I disagree entirely. "Healer" isn't an effective in-combat role
07:33:00 <Steven> and all those healers carry a CLW
07:33:11 <Damalon01> is being effective in-combat absolutely nesecary
07:33:18 <Damalon01> ?
07:33:19 <Mekkis> yes
07:33:24 <Damalon01> no i dont think'
07:33:25 <Damalon01> so
07:33:35 <Mekkis> last I checked, Pathfinder's rules largely cover combat
07:33:45 <Damalon01> i can see you and i are gonna have problems Mekkis
07:33:58 <Damalon01> its a role playing game
07:34:03 <Damalon01> not a roll playing game
07:34:06 <Mekkis> That we can agree on
07:34:09 <Mekkis> But
07:34:28 <Mekkis> If you don't have a Role to play when shit hits the fan, what are you doing in the party at all?
07:34:46 <Damalon01> lol my cleric casts buffing spells, heals people
07:34:51 <Damalon01> makes them more powerful
07:35:02 <Damalon01> ive never had any complaints
07:35:05 <Damalon01> oooo are you talkin about Stephen White Mekkis?
07:35:07 <Mekkis> I have a cleric like that. I don't think of him as a healer
07:35:18 <Damalon01> if you heal, youre a healer
07:35:20 <Mekkis> Sure, he can heal, but that's not his Role
07:35:28 <Mekkis> no
07:35:58 <Damalon01> clerics that spontaneously convert to heal are obviously healers
07:36:15 <Steven> oh god this argument/discussion again?
07:36:19 <Mekkis> Stephen White is a very good VC, and I am not implying anything ill about him
07:36:29 <Damalon01> lol sorry steven ill stop there
07:36:31 <Mekkis> sure, but it's not his role
07:36:49 <Damalon01> sorry Mekkis, im stopping there
07:37:10 <Mekkis> (for instance, he doesn't have Antisocial channelling)
07:39:01 <Mekkis> One thing that probably frustrates me more than it should is players using wands on themselves incombat
07:42:25 <Damalon01> cool i only wondered. Isnt he the only VC in Australia?
07:42:44 <Brunius> nah, they're all over the place now
07:42:51 <Brunius> there's 4-5 I think
07:42:53 <Mekkis> he WAS
07:43:18 <Damalon01> really? i did not know that. well i think hes the only one ive met.
07:43:27 <Damalon01> could be wrong, i often am :P
07:43:38 <Mekkis> but now there's Daniel Flood in Queensland, Al Rigg in NSW except Queanbyan and Jerrabomberra, and Some Guy in WA
07:43:53 <Damalon01> ah cewl
07:44:01 <Mekkis> and Ben Jordan in ACT (and I'm assuming Queanbyan and Jerrabomberra)
07:44:30 <Mekkis> otherwise Ben Jordan will be unique amoung VCs - a VC who doesn't live in the territory he's responsible for
07:48:39 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you get my email?
07:49:16 <Steven> 21k and my character will only need to cast one spell precombat
07:55:44 <Steven> which will be shield.
07:57:36 <Mekkis> !spell unshakable chill
07:57:39 <diebot> Mekkis, UNSHAKABLE CHILL necromancy ([cold]) druid 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, witch 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V, S, M Duration: 10 minutes/level; see text Save: Fortitude negates (see text) SR:yesSource: Ultimate Magic
07:57:39 <diebot> The target is filled with an unshakable chill for the duration of the spell, and suffers from the effects of severe cold (Core Rulebook 442). Severe cold means if the initial saving throw fails, the target takes 1d6 points of nonlethal cold damage and must save every 10 minutes (using the DC of severe cold instead of this spell's DC) or take
07:57:39 <diebot> additional damage.
08:02:33 <Avatar> there's no point sending anything to ashley man
08:02:42 <Avatar> he's made it clear he's not even willing to reconsider at all
08:03:03 <Avatar> he thinks the first retcon made up for all the others
08:03:49 <Avatar> you're frustrating yourself by trying and getting more rejections from him
08:05:55 <Mekkis> I'll send it regardless
08:06:08 <Mekkis> I can punch him in the face tomorrow :S
08:06:19 <Steven> that will not solve anything.
08:06:31 <Mekkis> depends how hard I punch him
08:10:30 <Avatar> Spaceshot_XperiaZ: happy birthday
08:11:03 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> That was loud on the tablet
08:11:15 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> And danka
08:12:50 <Steven> one more game and i'll be level 11 and can finally cast Contigancy.
08:13:22 <Damalon01> what are ya gonna load in that Contingency Steven?
08:13:40 <Steven> some fun stuff.
08:14:09 <Steven> but very likely Vampiric Touch
08:16:26 <Steven> i did it twice today. was fun.
08:21:43 <Mekkis> Steven, any suggestions on items Kernighan should have for Bonekeep
08:21:47 <Mekkis> Bonekeep 2
08:22:22 <Steven> a diamond worth 5k
08:23:07 <Mekkis> I believe that prevention is better than cure
08:24:49 <Damalon01> well im gonna head off. seeya.
08:27:31 <Steven> that is prevention. It prevents you from having to go anywhere once you die.
08:27:47 <Steven> well so long as someone prepped the spell.
08:27:53 <Steven> you could also just buy a scroll of it.
08:28:02 <Mekkis> bonekeep 2 is 3-7
08:28:06 <Mekkis> noone can prep it
08:28:12 <Mekkis> regardless, it's not prevention
08:28:32 <Mekkis> prevention is casting Delay Poison so you don't get poisoned in-combat
08:28:36 <Steven> it is. you just dont know it is yet.
08:28:49 <Mekkis> prevention is casting Resist Energy before getting fireballed
09:04:42 <Mekkis> !spell summon totem creature
09:04:45 <diebot> Mekkis, SUMMON TOTEM CREATURE conjuration (summoning[]) cleric 3, druid 3, ranger 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 3 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Comp: V, S, M/DF (a piece of bone from any one of your totem animals) Duration: 1 hour (D) Save: none SR:noSource: Humans Of Golarion
09:04:46 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/summon_totem_creature.html
09:05:25 <Damalon01> i agree with Mekkis, prevention is better than cure. Unfortunately prevention often requires prior knowledge.
09:07:27 <Damalon01> as for buying res, i wouldnt do that. I dont believe in Ressing characters. Id just make a new character.
09:07:50 <Damalon01> if i lost too many characters id just quit PFS.
09:08:18 <Mekkis> that's what prestige is for
09:08:49 <Damalon01> hmmm i suppose. I just dont like resurrection. cheapens the consequences of loosing.
09:09:14 <Mekkis> what I've done is gone over the cleric spell list and got scrolls of anything that might be useful
09:09:32 <Damalon01> a character death should be dramatic, resurrection kills that drama
09:23:55 <Steven> character deaths are still dramatic.
09:24:19 <Steven> so long as the player incorporates it into the character.
09:26:12 <Mekkis> !spell summon ancestral guardian
09:26:12 <diebot> Mekkis, SUMMON ANCESTRAL GUARDIAN conjuration (summoning[]) bard 3, cleric 3 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Comp: V, S, F/DF (stone or metal image of your ancestor) Duration: 1 round/level Save: none SR:yesSource: DwarvesOfGolarion
09:26:12 <diebot> You call the spirits of two ancestors to manifest in the mortal world and attack your enemies. Each appears as a transparent image of a powerful, wise dwarf armed with a traditional dwarven weapon of your choice. These spirits move and attack at your direction, each having the abilities of a spiritual weapon, except they can attack different
09:26:12 <diebot> targets and deal physical damage (bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing, according to the weapon the spirit wields) instead of force damage. Like creatures conjured with a summon monster spell, your ancestors are not harmed if these manifestations are destroyed.
09:26:24 <Damalon01> hmmm thats true if it only happens once or twice Steven, but if it happens too often it truly does kill the drama
09:26:37 <Steven> nah
09:26:49 <Steven> I know a guy whos got 13 character deaths on one character
09:27:49 <Steven> the guy is a fearless paladin who isnt afraid of death. cause they meet each other like every 3rd scenario, they grab coffee and a scone. Its halarious.
09:30:50 <Yiroep> One of our local VLs has 12 deaths on his ninja. The ninja is level 15 now, but still....
09:32:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, have you sent the email?
11:08:12 <Steven> not many in here today
14:16:56 <Steven> welcome back!
14:23:15 <Steven> pretty boring morning.
15:30:15 <Avatar> no
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15:43:22 <Mekkis> hey hey
15:52:59 <ReaperSage> hello
15:54:24 <Damalon01> whats up?
15:56:20 <Philderbeast> preping rise of the rune lords
15:58:17 <Damalon01> ooooo i like that AP. its got some holes but its a classic idea.
15:58:42 <Damalon01> what part of Rise of the Runelords are you up too?
15:58:57 <Philderbeast> we are due to start next week
15:59:16 <Damalon01> from the start? awesome
15:59:27 <Philderbeast> yep
15:59:38 <Damalon01> im a little envious of your players
16:06:19 <Avatar> reaper
16:15:19 <ReaperSage> hey
16:36:35 <Avatar> reaper
17:18:18 <Brunius|M> Reaper
17:20:38 <CWheezy> anyone want to play a game RIGHT NOW
17:20:55 <CWheezy> decline of glory tier 6-7
17:22:49 <Steven> suppose i could play for no credit.
17:23:30 <CWheezy> oh nvm someone showed up
17:23:50 <Steven> kk imma go back to crafting my Melee bard then.
18:38:30 <ReaperSage> hey again
20:12:34 <Steven> interesting... blizzard sent me a beta test for hearthstone.
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20:33:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm about no
20:33:27 <Mekkis> w
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20:38:09 <Avatar> [00:32] <Mekkis> Avatar, have you sent the email?
20:38:10 <Avatar> [06:29] <Avatar> no
20:42:56 <Steven> well i think its interesting since i never signed up for it.
20:56:23 <Mekkis> when are you sending it?
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21:24:37 <Mekkis> Steven, what do you do when a VC violates Run as Written?
21:25:05 <Steven> talk to VC
21:25:31 <Mekkis> he didn't seem to think there was a problem
21:34:29 <Damalon01> oooo are you talkin about Stephen White Mekkis?
21:34:51 <Mekkis> no
21:35:42 <Mekkis> Stephen White is a very good VC, and I am not implying anything ill about him
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21:41:49 <Damalon01> cool i only wondered. Isnt he the only VC in Australia?
21:42:08 <Brunius> nah, they're all over the place now
21:42:14 <Brunius> there's 4-5 I think
21:42:16 <Mekkis> he WAS
21:42:41 <Damalon01> really? i did not know that. well i think hes the only one ive met.
21:42:51 <Damalon01> could be wrong, i often am :P
21:43:01 <Mekkis> but now there's Daniel Flood in Queensland, Al Rigg in NSW except Queanbyan and Jerrabomberra, and Some Guy in WA
21:43:16 <Damalon01> ah cewl
21:43:25 <Mekkis> and Ben Jordan in ACT (and I'm assuming Queanbyan and Jerrabomberra)
21:43:53 <Mekkis> otherwise Ben Jordan will be unique amoung VCs - a VC who doesn't live in the territory he's responsible for
21:48:03 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you get my email?
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22:01:56 <Avatar> there's no point sending anything to ashley man
22:02:06 <Avatar> he's made it clear he's not even willing to reconsider at all
22:02:27 <Avatar> he thinks the first retcon made up for all the others
22:03:13 <Avatar> you're frustrating yourself by trying and getting more rejections from him
22:05:18 <Mekkis> I'll send it regardless
22:05:31 <Mekkis> I can punch him in the face tomorrow :S
22:05:43 <Steven> that will not solve anything.
22:05:54 <Mekkis> depends how hard I punch him
22:09:54 <Avatar> Spaceshot_XperiaZ: happy birthday
22:10:27 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> That was loud on the tablet
22:10:39 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> And danka
22:12:14 <Steven> one more game and i'll be level 11 and can finally cast Contigancy.
22:12:45 <Damalon01> what are ya gonna load in that Contingency Steven?
22:13:04 <Steven> some fun stuff.
22:13:33 <Steven> but very likely Vampiric Touch
22:15:50 <Steven> i did it twice today. was fun.
22:21:06 <Mekkis> Steven, any suggestions on items Kernighan should have for Bonekeep
22:21:10 <Mekkis> Bonekeep 2
22:21:46 <Steven> a diamond worth 5k
22:22:30 <Mekkis> I believe that prevention is better than cure
22:25:00 <Darkkapow> I don't like this whapow guy
22:25:07 <Darkkapow> I feel like he is taking my individuality
22:26:55 <Steven> that is prevention. It prevents you from having to go anywhere once you die.
22:27:11 <Steven> well so long as someone prepped the spell.
22:27:17 <Steven> you could also just buy a scroll of it.
22:27:26 <Mekkis> bonekeep 2 is 3-7
22:27:29 <Mekkis> noone can prep it
22:27:35 <Mekkis> regardless, it's not prevention
22:27:56 <Mekkis> prevention is casting Delay Poison so you don't get poisoned in-combat
22:28:00 <Steven> it is. you just dont know it is yet.
22:28:12 <Mekkis> prevention is casting Resist Energy before getting fireballed
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23:04:06 <Mekkis> !spell summon totem creature
23:04:09 <diebot> Mekkis, SUMMON TOTEM CREATURE conjuration (summoning[]) cleric 3, druid 3, ranger 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 3 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Comp: V, S, M/DF (a piece of bone from any one of your totem animals) Duration: 1 hour (D) Save: none SR:noSource: Humans Of Golarion
23:04:10 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/summon_totem_creature.html
23:04:48 <Damalon01> i agree with Mekkis, prevention is better than cure. Unfortunately prevention often requires prior knowledge.
23:06:51 <Damalon01> as for buying res, i wouldnt do that. I dont believe in Ressing characters. Id just make a new character.
23:07:23 <Damalon01> if i lost too many characters id just quit PFS.
23:07:41 <Mekkis> that's what prestige is for
23:08:12 <Damalon01> hmmm i suppose. I just dont like resurrection. cheapens the consequences of loosing.
23:08:37 <Mekkis> what I've done is gone over the cleric spell list and got scrolls of anything that might be useful
23:08:56 <Damalon01> a character death should be dramatic, resurrection kills that drama
23:23:19 <Steven> character deaths are still dramatic.
23:23:42 <Steven> so long as the player incorporates it into the character.
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23:25:35 <Mekkis> !spell summon ancestral guardian
23:25:36 <diebot> Mekkis, SUMMON ANCESTRAL GUARDIAN conjuration (summoning[]) bard 3, cleric 3 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Comp: V, S, F/DF (stone or metal image of your ancestor) Duration: 1 round/level Save: none SR:yesSource: DwarvesOfGolarion
23:25:36 <diebot> You call the spirits of two ancestors to manifest in the mortal world and attack your enemies. Each appears as a transparent image of a powerful, wise dwarf armed with a traditional dwarven weapon of your choice. These spirits move and attack at your direction, each having the abilities of a spiritual weapon, except they can attack different
23:25:36 <diebot> targets and deal physical damage (bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing, according to the weapon the spirit wields) instead of force damage. Like creatures conjured with a summon monster spell, your ancestors are not harmed if these manifestations are destroyed.
23:25:48 <Damalon01> hmmm thats true if it only happens once or twice Steven, but if it happens too often it truly does kill the drama
23:26:00 <Steven> nah
23:26:12 <Steven> I know a guy whos got 13 character deaths on one character
23:27:13 <Steven> the guy is a fearless paladin who isnt afraid of death. cause they meet each other like every 3rd scenario, they grab coffee and a scone. Its halarious.
23:28:40 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> What's happening?
23:30:14 <Yiroep> One of our local VLs has 12 deaths on his ninja. The ninja is level 15 now, but still....
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23:45:47 <Damalon01> lol thats interesting reasoning. you could argue that accepting resurrection so often is defiance of the gods and of celestia. Yes as a Paladin you have a duty but death ends that duty, more so service to the gods and celestia goes beyond death. You are defying celestia/the gods by refusing to join them. Afterall when a Paladin dies he/she becomes a partitioner in Celestia and on the fast track
23:45:48 <Damalon01> to becoming a Celestial themselves.
23:49:35 <Mekkis> There are definitely ways of working death and resurrection into a character.
23:49:56 <Mekkis> I prefer my characters to evolve rather than being planned out, and they do develop... quirks
23:50:22 <Mekkis> Kernigahn, for instance, is so paranoid about disease that he prepares and casts Delay Disease every day
23:51:22 <Damalon01> evolution of a character is possible without resurrection
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23:51:59 <Damalon01> in fact i would view it as a chance for other players/characters to evolve when they see a fellow PC go down and stay down.
23:52:06 <Ulzef> hey gius
23:53:26 <Damalon01> hey Ulzef
23:53:31 <Ulzef> and another convo bites the dust due to ulzef logging in
23:53:37 <Damalon01> lol
23:53:43 <Ulzef> hey dama how is things
23:56:11 <Mekkis> I never said it was
23:56:16 <Mekkis> hey Ulzef
23:56:21 <Mekkis> up in Sunny Brisbane?
23:56:48 <Ulzef> yeah just got in in the way to the motel
23:57:23 <Ulzef> a out 5 mins off
23:57:32 <Steven> sup
23:57:43 <Mekkis> got the special yet?
23:57:48 <Damalon01> things are going well enough Ylzef. you?
23:57:54 <Ulzef> if the cabbies gps is accurate how bout yaself
23:57:56 <Damalon01> Ulzef sorry
23:58:18 <Ulzef> yeah preped and ready
23:58:33 <Ulzef> and yeah good dama paizo con oz tomorrow booya
23:58:55 <Mekkis> that's good
23:59:00 <Mekkis> when did you get it
23:59:09 <Mekkis> and Why have I STILL not got it?!
23:59:11 <Mekkis> :'(
23:59:51 <Mekkis> interesting. Looks like 3 clerics in Bonekeep 2
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