// #d&d — 2013-10-04
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00:01:34 <mannequin> Its bizaare the answer is in the riddle
00:05:33 <Yuugi> Hi.
00:06:07 <Mekkis> as it should be
00:21:10 * Steven lazily waves
00:21:25 <Yuugi> hi
00:29:50 <Steven> damn it accidentally closed it
00:34:17 <Steven> so, how goes it?
00:35:39 <Yuugi> Pretty good
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00:36:58 <Yuugi> You?
00:37:19 <Steven> pretty tired.
00:37:24 <Steven> glad tomorrow is friday.
00:38:08 <Yuugi> Yeah.
00:39:21 <Steven> should mark the last day of me babysitting.
00:39:55 <Brunius> why are you sitting on babies
00:40:18 <Steven> Lawful evil... they signed the contract.
00:55:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha, that's exactly how I hear that brunius
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01:21:14 <Spaceshot_note> On my way to the city for unicon
01:21:35 <Steven> dont do it man... its a trap
01:21:40 <Steven> they are going to make you have a good time!
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01:26:12 <Spaceshot_note> Fuck... I thought I was going to lousy and pissed off all weekend. They lied to me
01:26:24 <Steven> bastard people!
01:28:20 <Spaceshot_note> I know, discarding my expectations and everything.
01:29:23 <Spaceshot_note> Also, I've reworked my 1.2xp from a flame oracle to a metal oracle, I need to have a backup character who can tank
01:30:57 <Spaceshot_note> And just a curious question, when playing a module, do you ever get some of the gold part way through or do you just get it at the end?
01:32:35 <Steven> if you find things you can sell those things, but if you spend that gold on your way through the adventure you still have to deduct it.
01:36:20 <Spaceshot_note> Mmk, I was just seeing if I'll need to down play my level 4 oracle tonight just to get some gold to spend on useful items or not
01:37:32 <Spaceshot_note> Play down* because the other people who have signed up for the session are level 3 or lower
01:37:53 <Spaceshot_note> I'll see what the table needs/suggests
01:46:48 <Steven> imma go play some gw2
01:49:55 <Spaceshot_note> Go play your ever to be free mmo
01:51:38 <Steven> I WILL!
01:57:21 <Spaceshot_note> YOU BETTER HAVE A GRAND OL' TIME
01:58:00 <Steven> Already underway!
02:01:55 <Spaceshot_note> Avatar: do you think I'll need to play my level 4 oracle down tier? As in is this considered a hard scenario?
02:03:15 <Brunius> what scenario?
02:25:32 <Spaceshot_note> 013 iirc
02:30:17 <Avatar> yo
02:30:27 <Avatar> this is considered an easy scenario
02:30:36 <Avatar> if you have an underpowered character, using it isn't a bad idea
02:30:51 <Avatar> but if you just want easy exp, use your level 4 guy
02:31:01 <Avatar> you still get out of tier gold, not low tier gold
02:37:41 <Spaceshot_note> I know, but I'm also tempted to use my newly remade 1.2xp character. I don't think out of tier gold is enough to buy any of the items I want on my level 4, besides the prestige to remove that last neg level
02:38:35 <Avatar> honestly last time I ran this and played this, we uptiered both times from levels 1-3 I think
02:38:54 <Avatar> all level 1s trying to uptier might run into problems, but anything else should be fine
02:38:56 <Spaceshot_note> Also, have you changed your number in the last year?
02:39:00 <Avatar> you guys are in all likelihood playing down
02:39:06 <Avatar> no
02:39:18 <Spaceshot_note> Only if we could choose to uptier
02:39:23 <Avatar> I'm quite disappointed you don't get a choice to play up
02:39:38 <Avatar> I messaged mike to try get an exception, but no reply
02:39:46 <Avatar> stephen won't allow it
02:40:19 <Spaceshot_note> I understand it, you could get a table of OP characters, uptier the first 3-4 levels and then they'd have a good amount of extra gold over the norm
02:40:42 <Avatar> bit more than that I think
02:40:48 <Avatar> part of it is simplification
02:41:04 <Spaceshot_note> I'd understand if they'd just allow uptiering to be hard mode, and not give extra gold
02:41:18 <Spaceshot_note> That I could see happening
02:43:22 <Avatar> I asked in the forums about that very thing
02:43:43 <Avatar> and everyone went mental saying no no no thats not what the rules say you cant do that
02:44:38 <Avatar> it seems pretty silly that if a table unanimously agrees to play up with regular low/out of tier rewards that it's completely illegal
02:46:12 <Philderbeast> is there a game on tonight
02:46:35 <Avatar> there's a con starting tonight in melbourne
02:46:45 <Philderbeast> ahhh nice
02:46:49 <Avatar> ya
02:47:13 <Philderbeast> any chance of something happening in here tonight :S
02:47:34 <Avatar> steven will run something probably !
02:47:47 <Philderbeast> hhmmmmm i wonder what level
02:48:00 <Avatar> depends on what levels players have
02:48:24 <Philderbeast> im a little limited unfortunatly with 1's or a level 3 (one more till shge gets to 4)
02:51:23 <Steven> avatar you ever get your last 'evil' boon?
02:51:51 <Spaceshot_note> I read a similar thing about how the players asked for a challenge so they asked for the DM to decide their own tactics rather than the ones set out in the scenarios and shit hit the fan so hard a tarrasque would have been one shot
02:52:01 <Spaceshot_note> Damn train tunnels
02:54:22 <Steven> never very hard to kill people if tactics are left open to GM
02:54:58 <Spaceshot_note> Yea, but it depends on the GM
02:58:47 <Avatar> that is a lie
02:58:51 <Avatar> prince of augustana steven
03:03:23 <Steven> i've killed people on that one running as written.
03:03:40 <Avatar> lollllllllllllllllllllll
03:03:43 <Avatar> impossible
03:04:08 <Steven> it was actually kinda sad
03:05:12 <Avatar> yeah it would be
03:05:21 <Avatar> this is the easiest scenario in PFS and I still managed to kill you
03:10:34 <Steven> so you get your words of the ancients played?
03:10:49 <Avatar> when was I going to get words of the ancients played
03:10:53 <Avatar> did you want to run it
03:11:35 <Steven> no, i didnt like playing that scenario.
03:13:52 <Steven> I plan on running it exactly 1 time, and thats to get credit on my Gluttony wizard.
03:14:06 <Avatar> ok do that then
03:14:09 <Avatar> !!
03:14:18 <Steven> i have my group of people already picked out.
03:14:37 <Steven> Cameron, Sean, Kellie, Dawn, and Estabon.
03:16:02 <Avatar> and Avatar
03:16:07 <Avatar> when do we play
03:17:53 <Steven> soon as you show up in Pullman Washington.
03:18:19 <Avatar> just get them in here and we will play some sweet PFS
03:18:39 <Steven> heh
03:18:45 <Avatar> now I gotta go
03:18:53 <Steven> have fun mang
03:19:04 <Steven> im gonna finish up some crafting and then im goin to bed.
03:19:20 <Brunius> Think I just got a rank in cook (eggs)
03:23:11 <Spaceshot_note> Did you crit(frying)?
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04:31:01 <Brunius> with bright blue hair
04:31:13 <Philderbeast> its half tempting
04:31:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that reminds me, I need to find a model for ava
04:50:08 <Avatar> have you got the snickers one ready mekkis
05:11:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> is there a point at having any armour at all at level 4 if my AC is only 16?
05:11:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 15*
05:16:18 <Avatar> level 4 isn't high
05:16:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> neither is 15 ac
05:16:53 <Avatar> so what does that tell you
05:17:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I don't know, maybe it tells me that I don't need to worry about my armour at all, maybe it tells me I can keep wearing it for it's benefit
05:18:10 <Avatar> I don't think that's what it tells you
05:18:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> well I don't know
05:18:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm not going to bother to improve it
05:18:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> there is no point
05:22:44 <Avatar> what are you proficient with
05:23:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> medium armour and shields
05:23:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so the most I could get is 19AC
05:23:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 10 dex
05:23:54 <Avatar> is your sheet on the site
05:23:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I don't have money for magical items (just rezed)
05:24:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not the latest
05:24:04 <Avatar> oops
05:27:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup
05:32:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so how does payment on the day work at unicon?
05:33:24 <Avatar> there's a front desk after you go in the double doors
05:33:32 <Avatar> you tell them your name and pay
05:34:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmk, cash only?
05:35:02 <Avatar> yeah
05:37:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and even though it says it starts at 6pm, when should I try to get there by?
05:37:47 <Avatar> 6pm
05:37:54 <Avatar> what do you think that time means
05:38:10 <Brunius> 5:45
05:38:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I mean isn't there like some general pregame setup or some shit?
05:38:48 <Avatar> 4:30
05:38:58 <Avatar> mustering
05:39:00 <Brunius> Yeah, that pretty much starts at 6pm
05:39:01 <Avatar> yeah you have to be there for that
05:39:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ??
05:39:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm confused
05:39:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> brunius, please be a doll and stfu
05:39:53 <Avatar> he's right
05:39:55 <Brunius> based on past experience, I would expect games not to start until 6:30
05:40:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmk, so I don't need to get there earlier than 6pm
05:45:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if a trait says (chelaxian, or taldor) does that mean it's only for humans of that subtype, or just anyone who would be considered that race (such as elves who lived their lives in cheliax or taldor)?
05:51:31 <Brunius> what's the source?
05:52:11 <Brunius> I'd expect it to be humans of that subtype but it could be faction based if it's in a PFS-related source
05:52:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> either the cheliax or taldor book
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06:10:08 <spuderator> Hey mekkis you haxor!
06:10:55 <spuderator> ??mekkis
06:13:08 <Brunius> he's dead, jim
06:25:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> well, I've got a painted character that fits my 1.2 alternate, but not even a prepainted crappy plastic dnd model for ava
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06:53:45 <Avatar> ??spuderator
07:37:15 <Mekkis> spending a lot of credits on HEAT shells
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09:20:10 <Avatar> well that was fun
09:22:45 <Spaceshot_note> Quite so
09:23:03 <Spaceshot_note> Mekkis: you here?
09:23:12 <Avatar> yeah mekkis this is important
09:23:18 <Avatar> you too ulzef
09:23:37 <Spaceshot_note> Quite so, sort of a good news, bad news thing
09:23:46 <Spaceshot_note> So ulzef is john?
09:24:04 <Avatar> ulzef is gerbil
09:24:08 <Avatar> or justin
09:24:20 <Avatar> or any of 5 other names
09:24:21 <Spaceshot_note> Ah, mmk
09:24:47 <Mekkis> Phones are running hot with complaints that sessions on the 4th floor NT server are being lost randomly. What is the problem most likely to be?
09:24:49 <Spaceshot_note> Haha
09:27:08 <Spaceshot_note> Yea you were right, that was an easy scenario
09:27:56 <Avatar> I dropped one of you, so that was good
09:28:18 <Avatar> for some reason I couldn't search my core rulebook
09:28:38 <mannequin> believe it or not
09:29:07 <Spaceshot_note> Haha true you did. But then it was just a disarmingly funny time
09:29:58 <Mekkis> ?
09:34:06 <mannequin> update your server
09:37:19 <mannequin> you sure its the 4th floor
09:37:23 <mannequin> ??
09:37:33 <Mekkis> incorrect
09:39:07 <mannequin> you opened up hell by busting the fourth floor
09:51:44 <Mekkis> incorrect
09:51:57 <Mekkis> The problem, as I see it, is that the phone is on the hook.
09:52:25 <mannequin> well you gotta be there to know it
10:02:43 <mannequin> Its bizaare the answer is in the riddle
10:07:16 <Mekkis> as it should be
21:04:50 <khaoz> hi there, anyone online?
21:19:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no...
21:19:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> :P
21:26:16 <khaoz> i have a question about PAthfinder, and oddly, this is the only place i thought i could find some real input
21:27:12 <Goya> Ask away - though - lots of us idle - so I don't know how much feedback you'll get at the moment - and I'm not really the best resource. =)
21:27:45 <khaoz> does anyone know what are the rules for buying magical items on non-level 1 characters?
21:28:17 <khaoz> i've been searching the paizo boards and found nothing
21:29:37 <Goya> Hrmm.. As far as I know - as long as the item is PFS legal - and you have the gold available - and you're in a scenario with a large enough settlement - it SHOULD be fine to buy.
21:33:05 <Goya> It's usually easier to use 'prestige' to buy items (e.g. wand of cure light wounds) than try to pay for it in gold.
21:33:15 <khaoz> and speaking in non PFS terms?
21:33:41 <khaoz> for example, if i am building a lvl12 char, thus i have a budget of 108K, i can spend it all on say one item?
21:34:51 <Goya> I would think the item would be subject to DM discresion.
21:35:42 <khaoz> so there is no 'official ruling' that you know of?
21:35:45 <Goya> There are charts and whatnot for the costs - but I don't know if you'll pull a 100k magic wand of uberness over the DM.
21:36:07 <Goya> No rules I know of - beyond cost and 'availability' (which is subjective).
21:37:04 <Goya> If it's NON PFS play - I would suggest getting with the DM to scope out the limits of the 'build'.
21:37:15 <khaoz> i was just making a drastic example with the 100K item... but more realistically, 2 or 3 25K items, wouldn't be such overpowering force, right? (armor, shield, weapon)
21:37:43 <Goya> I suppose it falls within the 'build' requirements.
21:38:33 <khaoz> well, Goya, thanks a lot for all the help, you've provided
21:39:34 <khaoz> have a great day/night
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