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00:05:33 <Yuugi> Hi.
00:21:10 * Steven lazily waves
00:21:25 <Yuugi> hi
00:29:50 <Steven> damn it accidentally closed it
00:34:17 <Steven> so, how goes it?
00:35:39 <Yuugi> Pretty good
00:36:58 <Yuugi> You?
00:37:19 <Steven> pretty tired.
00:37:24 <Steven> glad tomorrow is friday.
00:38:08 <Yuugi> Yeah.
00:39:21 <Steven> should mark the last day of me babysitting.
00:39:55 <Brunius> why are you sitting on babies
00:40:18 <Steven> Lawful evil... they signed the contract.
00:55:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha, that's exactly how I hear that brunius
01:21:14 <Spaceshot_note> On my way to the city for unicon
01:21:35 <Steven> dont do it man... its a trap
01:21:40 <Steven> they are going to make you have a good time!
01:26:12 <Spaceshot_note> Fuck... I thought I was going to lousy and pissed off all weekend. They lied to me
01:26:24 <Steven> bastard people!
01:28:20 <Spaceshot_note> I know, discarding my expectations and everything.
01:29:23 <Spaceshot_note> Also, I've reworked my 1.2xp from a flame oracle to a metal oracle, I need to have a backup character who can tank
01:30:57 <Spaceshot_note> And just a curious question, when playing a module, do you ever get some of the gold part way through or do you just get it at the end?
01:32:35 <Steven> if you find things you can sell those things, but if you spend that gold on your way through the adventure you still have to deduct it.
01:36:20 <Spaceshot_note> Mmk, I was just seeing if I'll need to down play my level 4 oracle tonight just to get some gold to spend on useful items or not
01:37:32 <Spaceshot_note> Play down* because the other people who have signed up for the session are level 3 or lower
01:37:53 <Spaceshot_note> I'll see what the table needs/suggests
01:46:48 <Steven> imma go play some gw2
01:49:55 <Spaceshot_note> Go play your ever to be free mmo
01:51:29 <Yuugi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut82TDjciSg
01:51:38 <Steven> I WILL!
01:51:38 <diebot> Yuugi, Eben Brooks: Hey There Chthulhu
01:51:52 <Yuugi> n_n
01:57:21 <Spaceshot_note> YOU BETTER HAVE A GRAND OL' TIME
01:58:00 <Steven> Already underway!
01:58:24 <Brunius> Avatar: Are you able to sign my rego form tomorrow?
02:01:55 <Spaceshot_note> Avatar: do you think I'll need to play my level 4 oracle down tier? As in is this considered a hard scenario?
02:03:15 <Brunius> what scenario?
02:25:32 <Spaceshot_note> 013 iirc
02:30:17 <Avatar> yo
02:30:27 <Avatar> this is considered an easy scenario
02:30:36 <Avatar> if you have an underpowered character, using it isn't a bad idea
02:30:51 <Avatar> but if you just want easy exp, use your level 4 guy
02:31:01 <Avatar> you still get out of tier gold, not low tier gold
02:37:41 <Spaceshot_note> I know, but I'm also tempted to use my newly remade 1.2xp character. I don't think out of tier gold is enough to buy any of the items I want on my level 4, besides the prestige to remove that last neg level
02:38:35 <Avatar> honestly last time I ran this and played this, we uptiered both times from levels 1-3 I think
02:38:54 <Avatar> all level 1s trying to uptier might run into problems, but anything else should be fine
02:38:56 <Spaceshot_note> Also, have you changed your number in the last year?
02:39:00 <Avatar> you guys are in all likelihood playing down
02:39:06 <Avatar> no
02:39:18 <Spaceshot_note> Only if we could choose to uptier
02:39:23 <Avatar> I'm quite disappointed you don't get a choice to play up
02:39:38 <Avatar> I messaged mike to try get an exception, but no reply
02:39:46 <Avatar> stephen won't allow it
02:40:19 <Spaceshot_note> I understand it, you could get a table of OP characters, uptier the first 3-4 levels and then they'd have a good amount of extra gold over the norm
02:40:42 <Avatar> bit more than that I think
02:40:48 <Avatar> part of it is simplification
02:41:04 <Spaceshot_note> I'd understand if they'd just allow uptiering to be hard mode, and not give extra gold
02:41:18 <Spaceshot_note> That I could see happening
02:43:22 <Avatar> I asked in the forums about that very thing
02:43:43 <Avatar> and everyone went mental saying no no no thats not what the rules say you cant do that
02:44:38 <Avatar> it seems pretty silly that if a table unanimously agrees to play up with regular low/out of tier rewards that it's completely illegal
02:46:12 <Philderbeast> is there a game on tonight
02:46:35 <Avatar> there's a con starting tonight in melbourne
02:46:45 <Philderbeast> ahhh nice
02:46:49 <Avatar> ya
02:47:13 <Philderbeast> any chance of something happening in here tonight :S
02:47:34 <Avatar> steven will run something probably !
02:47:47 <Philderbeast> hhmmmmm i wonder what level
02:48:00 <Avatar> depends on what levels players have
02:48:24 <Philderbeast> im a little limited unfortunatly with 1's or a level 3 (one more till shge gets to 4)
02:51:23 <Steven> avatar you ever get your last 'evil' boon?
02:51:51 <Spaceshot_note> I read a similar thing about how the players asked for a challenge so they asked for the DM to decide their own tactics rather than the ones set out in the scenarios and shit hit the fan so hard a tarrasque would have been one shot
02:52:01 <Spaceshot_note> Damn train tunnels
02:54:22 <Steven> never very hard to kill people if tactics are left open to GM
02:54:58 <Spaceshot_note> Yea, but it depends on the GM
02:58:47 <Avatar> that is a lie
02:58:51 <Avatar> prince of augustana steven
03:03:23 <Steven> i've killed people on that one running as written.
03:03:40 <Avatar> lollllllllllllllllllllll
03:03:43 <Avatar> impossible
03:04:08 <Steven> it was actually kinda sad
03:05:12 <Avatar> yeah it would be
03:05:21 <Avatar> this is the easiest scenario in PFS and I still managed to kill you
03:10:34 <Steven> so you get your words of the ancients played?
03:10:49 <Avatar> when was I going to get words of the ancients played
03:10:53 <Avatar> did you want to run it
03:11:35 <Steven> no, i didnt like playing that scenario.
03:13:52 <Steven> I plan on running it exactly 1 time, and thats to get credit on my Gluttony wizard.
03:14:06 <Avatar> ok do that then
03:14:09 <Avatar> !!
03:14:18 <Steven> i have my group of people already picked out.
03:14:37 <Steven> Cameron, Sean, Kellie, Dawn, and Estabon.
03:16:02 <Avatar> and Avatar
03:16:07 <Avatar> when do we play
03:17:53 <Steven> soon as you show up in Pullman Washington.
03:18:19 <Avatar> just get them in here and we will play some sweet PFS
03:18:39 <Steven> heh
03:18:45 <Avatar> now I gotta go
03:18:53 <Steven> have fun mang
03:19:04 <Steven> im gonna finish up some crafting and then im goin to bed.
03:19:20 <Brunius> Think I just got a rank in cook (eggs)
03:23:11 <Spaceshot_note> Did you crit(frying)?
04:50:08 <Avatar> have you got the snickers one ready mekkis
04:57:18 <Brunius> Ballig: Did you ever have any issues with the memory in this video card?
05:11:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> is there a point at having any armour at all at level 4 if my AC is only 16?
05:11:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 15*
05:16:18 <Avatar> level 4 isn't high
05:16:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> neither is 15 ac
05:16:53 <Avatar> so what does that tell you
05:17:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I don't know, maybe it tells me that I don't need to worry about my armour at all, maybe it tells me I can keep wearing it for it's benefit
05:18:10 <Avatar> I don't think that's what it tells you
05:18:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> well I don't know
05:18:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm not going to bother to improve it
05:18:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> there is no point
05:22:44 <Avatar> what are you proficient with
05:23:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> medium armour and shields
05:23:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so the most I could get is 19AC
05:23:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 10 dex
05:23:54 <Avatar> is your sheet on the site
05:23:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I don't have money for magical items (just rezed)
05:24:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not the latest
05:24:04 <Avatar> oops
05:27:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup
05:32:28 <Bloodlust> howdy
05:32:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so how does payment on the day work at unicon?
05:33:24 <Avatar> there's a front desk after you go in the double doors
05:33:32 <Avatar> you tell them your name and pay
05:33:34 <Brunius> Bloodlust
05:33:39 <Brunius> Is it bad if my fingertips all sting
05:33:42 <Bloodlust> that's me
05:34:01 <Bloodlust> not if you've been doing creative things withthem
05:34:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmk, cash only?
05:34:22 <Brunius> They've recently been exposed to high-temperature dough
05:34:40 <Bloodlust> cool
05:34:41 <Bloodlust> hot cash
05:35:02 <Avatar> yeah
05:37:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and even though it says it starts at 6pm, when should I try to get there by?
05:37:47 <Avatar> 6pm
05:37:54 <Avatar> what do you think that time means
05:38:10 <Brunius> 5:45
05:38:32 <Avatar> erch what a rough day
05:38:44 <Avatar> 1 retreat, 1 TPK
05:38:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I mean isn't there like some general pregame setup or some shit?
05:38:48 <Avatar> 4:30
05:38:48 <Brunius> You're only halfway through the second session aren't yo-oh
05:38:57 <Brunius> what season?
05:38:58 <Avatar> mustering
05:39:00 <Brunius> Yeah, that pretty much starts at 6pm
05:39:01 <Avatar> yeah you have to be there for that
05:39:21 <Avatar> waking rune and elven enlightenment or whatever it is
05:39:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ??
05:39:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm confused
05:39:36 <Avatar> waking rune is unbelievably hard
05:39:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> brunius, please be a doll and stfu
05:39:50 <Avatar> it's a miracle we got as far as we did
05:39:52 <Bloodlust> hey i'm going to be running a game
05:39:53 <Avatar> he's right
05:39:55 <Brunius> based on past experience, I would expect games not to start until 6:30
05:40:02 <Avatar> nice
05:40:13 <Bloodlust> you weren't playing it on bullshit hard mode were you?
05:40:30 <Avatar> no we were playing it in normal mode
05:40:34 <Avatar> and it was still too hrad
05:40:35 <Avatar> hard*
05:40:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmk, so I don't need to get there earlier than 6pm
05:40:44 <Bloodlust> Avatar, I'm inviting those who have Gm'ed for me in the past to have first dibs on being part of it
05:40:44 <Avatar> I don't recommend anyone ever plays it
05:41:00 <Bloodlust> Have you played, "Godsmouth heresy" before?
05:41:06 <Avatar> no I'd be keen on that
05:41:12 <Bloodlust> it's a 1-2 module
05:41:19 <Avatar> oh, wait
05:41:21 <Avatar> not keen on a module
05:41:24 <Bloodlust> replayable with level 1s, only one level 2 though
05:41:37 <Bloodlust> it has one of the best magic items in the game in my opinion
05:41:50 <Avatar> alright I'll consider it
05:41:53 <Avatar> cause it's your first game
05:42:19 <Avatar> we really should have been TPK'd in waking rune as well I think
05:42:31 <Bloodlust> good thing is, it's just one big dungeon crawl, so if it is taking too long, I'll just axe some rooms
05:42:46 <Avatar> you can't axe rooms in PFS
05:44:13 <Bloodlust> okay
05:45:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if a trait says (chelaxian, or taldor) does that mean it's only for humans of that subtype, or just anyone who would be considered that race (such as elves who lived their lives in cheliax or taldor)?
05:45:47 <Bloodlust> so anyway, it will probably be Saturday morning our time
05:45:56 <Bloodlust> Friday night for those silly Americans
05:51:31 <Brunius> what's the source?
05:52:11 <Brunius> I'd expect it to be humans of that subtype but it could be faction based if it's in a PFS-related source
05:52:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> either the cheliax or taldor book
06:04:42 <Avatar> this coming saturday?
06:05:07 <Bloodlust> yup
06:05:57 <Avatar> I'll schedule it
06:05:59 <Avatar> what time do you want to run it
06:06:22 <Bloodlust> Not overly sure as yet
06:06:30 <Bloodlust> It'll probably be for the yanks evening
06:06:36 <Bloodlust> about 7pm their time I guess
06:06:51 <Avatar> when's that our time
06:08:02 <Bloodlust> probably about 7am my time
06:08:08 <Bloodlust> so, 9am yours maybe?
06:09:17 <Avatar> daylight savings starts tonight
06:09:34 <Avatar> it'll be UTC+11
06:10:08 <spuderator> Hey mekkis you haxor!
06:10:29 <Bloodlust> ahh okay
06:10:55 <spuderator> ??mekkis
06:13:08 <Brunius> he's dead, jim
06:13:13 <Avatar> what time do you want to run it in your time
06:13:32 <Bloodlust> I'm pretty easy
06:14:06 <Avatar> well you are running it yo, just give me a time
06:14:19 <Bloodlust> just had some redneck asshole with a private number call me and abuse me. Apparently I need to be reminded that I'm a "fat c*nt".
06:14:54 <Avatar> did you have a good laugh
06:15:03 <Bloodlust> I could barely understand him
06:15:13 <Bloodlust> I kept on asking him to speak up because I couldn't hear him.
06:15:20 <Bloodlust> When he did speak up I asked him who he was
06:15:42 <Bloodlust> Which naturally he refused to say, so I told him to speak up again, very politely
06:15:46 <Bloodlust> I even said "please"
06:17:28 <Avatar> is there more to that story
06:17:38 <Avatar> I was waiting for a punchline
06:18:14 <Bloodlust> he then just called me that and hung up
06:18:29 <Bloodlust> a few times he told me to "listen up"
06:18:37 <Avatar> listen up yo
06:18:38 <Bloodlust> and I told him that I couldn't hear him lol
06:18:59 <Bloodlust> I think I made him a bit frustrated and his plan to intimidate me didn't work so well.
06:19:29 <Bloodlust> I still have no idea what he wanted or why he was calling
06:22:20 <Avatar> such a painful day
06:25:36 <Avatar> so yeah don't play the waking rune
06:25:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> well, I've got a painted character that fits my 1.2 alternate, but not even a prepainted crappy plastic dnd model for ava
06:28:23 <Bloodlust> sounds like it
06:28:28 <Bloodlust> who was running t?
06:29:45 <Avatar> ashley
06:29:56 <Avatar> I don't think it was his fault
06:30:07 <Avatar> if anything he made a mistake that made the scenario easier
06:30:13 <Avatar> like, a lot easier
06:33:19 <Bloodlust> I know Arthur is often trying to run this one.
06:33:33 <Bloodlust> But he's not so much on the side of the PCs lol.
06:34:47 <Avatar> who is Arthur
06:35:02 <Bloodlust> AP (on the google boards)
06:35:12 <Avatar> perkins
06:35:30 <Avatar> it's been a long time since I played with any of those guys
06:35:40 <Avatar> with year of the shadow lodge being the exception
06:35:42 <Bloodlust> yup
06:53:45 <Avatar> ??spuderator
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07:33:59 <Mekkis> I know
07:34:07 <Mekkis> !spell mage's private sanctum
07:34:17 <diebot> Mekkis, MAGE'S PRIVATE SANCTUM abjuration ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Comp: V, S, M (a sheet of lead, a piece of glass, a wad of cotton, and powdered chrysolite) Duration: 24 hours Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
07:34:17 <diebot> This spell ensures privacy. Anyone looking into the area from outside sees only a dark, foggy mass. Darkvision cannot penetrate it. No sounds, no matter how loud, can escape the area, so nobody can eavesdrop from outside. Those inside can see out normally. Divination (scrying) spells cannot perceive anything within the area, and those within are
07:34:17 <diebot> immune to detect thoughts. The ward prevents speech between those inside and those outside (because it blocks sound), but it does not prevent other communication, such as a sending or message spell, or telepathic communication, such as that between a wizard and her familiar. The spell does not prevent creatures or objects from moving into and out
07:34:17 <diebot> of the area. Mage's private sanctum can be made permanent with a permanency spell.
07:34:18 <Philderbeast> morning
07:34:21 <Mekkis> moin
07:37:15 <Mekkis> spending a lot of credits on HEAT shells
08:51:00 <Spaceshot_note> Does usually having a choice and being forced to choose something specific count as an archetype alteration for the sake of retraining as stated in ultimate campaign?
08:58:26 <Spaceshot_note> Like, I know that the replaced bonus spells of planar oracle counts as 5pp but does the requirement to take the planar revelation at level 3 count?
09:14:08 <Spaceshot_note> Avatar or mekkis you there?
09:15:09 <Spaceshot_note> Not registered brunius, so -r it up
09:15:46 <Brunius|M> Bing
09:20:10 <Avatar> well that was fun
09:20:14 <Spaceshot_note> Avatar or mekkis, can you tell stephen (and others) that I'm not going tomorrow, I'm really tired and even though I want to play tomorrow with ava in the special, I don't want to rush the level 5 level up
09:22:45 <Spaceshot_note> Quite so
09:23:03 <Spaceshot_note> Mekkis: you here?
09:23:12 <Avatar> yeah mekkis this is important
09:23:18 <Avatar> you too ulzef
09:23:37 <Spaceshot_note> Quite so, sort of a good news, bad news thing
09:23:46 <Spaceshot_note> So ulzef is john?
09:24:04 <Avatar> ulzef is gerbil
09:24:08 <Avatar> or justin
09:24:20 <Avatar> or any of 5 other names
09:24:21 <Spaceshot_note> Ah, mmk
09:24:41 <Spaceshot_note> So I'm sorry I don't get to join, but it's 11:20 and haven't done anything of my level up besides the skill points
09:24:47 <Mekkis> Phones are running hot with complaints that sessions on the 4th floor NT server are being lost randomly. What is the problem most likely to be?
09:24:49 <Spaceshot_note> Haha
09:27:08 <Spaceshot_note> Yea you were right, that was an easy scenario
09:27:56 <Avatar> I dropped one of you, so that was good
09:28:18 <Avatar> for some reason I couldn't search my core rulebook
09:28:38 <mannequin> believe it or not
09:29:07 <Spaceshot_note> Haha true you did. But then it was just a disarmingly funny time
09:29:58 <Mekkis> ?
09:34:06 <mannequin> update your server
09:37:19 <mannequin> you sure its the 4th floor
09:37:23 <mannequin> ??
09:37:33 <Mekkis> incorrect
09:39:07 <mannequin> you opened up hell by busting the fourth floor
09:51:44 <Mekkis> incorrect
09:51:57 <Mekkis> The problem, as I see it, is that the phone is on the hook.
09:52:13 <Mekkis> moin
09:52:25 <mannequin> well you gotta be there to know it
10:00:38 <Avatar> mekkis
10:00:48 <Avatar> stephen signed us up for waking rune tomorrow morning with ashley GMing
10:02:43 <mannequin> Its bizaare the answer is in the riddle
10:07:16 <Mekkis> as it should be
18:04:13 <Avatar> how on earth is pathfinder stagnant
18:04:23 <Yuugi> I think for their Bestiary 4 they're going into Cthulhu territory
18:04:31 <Yuugi> Avatar: There will never be a Pathfinder 2e
18:04:41 <Yuugi> It will never really evolve, it'll just keep bloating.
18:04:59 <Yuugi> Whereas D&D Next is an evolution of the rules. Or at least it's supposed to be.
18:05:02 <Philderbeast> speaking of books, whats the first thing i shoulud buy after the core rule book?
18:05:09 <Philderbeast> im thinking APG and ultimate equipment
18:05:11 <Yuugi> For what system?
18:05:16 <Philderbeast> PFS
18:05:31 <Yiroep> Those are what I would get next.
18:05:38 <Yuugi> Don't buy any books unless you know for sure you're going to make a character with the stuff in it, though.
18:05:40 <Yiroep> Ultimate Combat/Ultimate Magic are good, too.
18:05:47 <Avatar> yeah APG and UE first
18:05:50 <Yuugi> Like, don't buy Ultimate Magic and
18:05:54 <Yuugi> Then not make a spellcaster
18:05:55 <Avatar> then UC and/or UM later
18:06:04 <Philderbeast> i want ultimate equipment for my sorcerer who is already rolled (i want some of the staves)
18:06:14 <Yuugi> If it's your first book decide first on a character.... yeah
18:06:17 <Yiroep> UE has just...a loooooooooooot of stuff.
18:06:26 <Yiroep> It's pretty much applicable to any character.
18:06:27 <Philderbeast> yea thats what i was thinking
18:06:40 <Yuugi> Ultimate Campaign is pretty nifty, too
18:06:48 <Philderbeast> UE looks like a good expansion to the core rule for gear, and APG seems like it would be usefull for just about anything as well
18:06:53 <Yuugi> If you're completely new I'd suggest it simply for the character background section.
18:07:00 <Yuugi> And the completely updated traits list
18:07:09 <Avatar> if you're going for PFS, ultimate campaign is not great unless you want to do retraining
18:07:20 <Yuugi> Oh, well I meant in general.
18:07:40 <Yuugi> Not just for PFS, it's good for beginners in Pathfinder anyway.
18:07:41 <Yiroep> I want to use the mass combat rules in it for a home game, but I'm skeptical of them.
18:07:47 <Yuugi> n_n
18:07:48 <Yiroep> I may modify them if I ever use them.
18:07:49 <Philderbeast> atm im only playing PFS... i havent had a chance to get in to a compaing other then that yet
18:09:06 <Avatar> is mekkis or ulzef about
18:09:16 <Yuugi> wait
18:09:16 <Steven> Alright back, for sorcerer you want Core, APG, UE and UM to have a pretty much complete list of the stuff you will use.
18:09:21 <Yuugi> Before you do any of that stuff
18:09:23 <Steven> sup avatar.
18:09:23 <Philderbeast> mekkis was around not long ago
18:09:25 <Yuugi> You should buy the Primer
18:09:30 <Yuugi> I think
18:09:40 <Yiroep> Primer is not core anymore.
18:09:45 <Steven> Primer is pretty awesome, but its mostly utilitary stuff.
18:09:48 <Yuugi> oooh
18:09:48 <Avatar> i've gotten nearly nothing out of the primer
18:09:56 <Yuugi> They stopped making it core
18:10:01 <Yuugi> I remember the first two were core
18:10:08 <Philderbeast> society field guide?
18:10:12 <Yuugi> No
18:10:14 <Yiroep> Not core anymore.
18:10:21 <Yiroep> Think it's just Core Rulebook, huh?
18:10:28 <Yuugi> The first one was Seeker of Secrets, and the second one was Field Guide
18:10:37 <Avatar> the field guide has a couple of good feats and archetypes in it, but don't make it your first option for buying books
18:10:39 <Yuugi> And I think they used to be mandatory, but I guess they changed it. That's good.
18:10:45 <Philderbeast> iner sea primer?
18:10:54 <Yiroep> If you use something from it. Otherwise, meh.
18:11:05 <Avatar> are you asking for books to start off with or books to ever buy
18:11:16 <Yuugi> Avatar: I think it's both.
18:11:22 <Yuugi> At this point, I think he only has the Core.
18:11:25 <Philderbeast> yea a bit of both
18:11:38 <Philderbeast> give me a sec and ill get a list of what i have
18:12:08 <Philderbeast> Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Pathfinder Society Field Guide (PFRPG) PDF
18:12:08 <Philderbeast> Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook (OGL) PDF
18:12:08 <Philderbeast> Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play (PFRPG) PDF
18:12:11 <Avatar> well if money is no object get them all
18:12:24 <Philderbeast> thats what i have atm
18:12:31 <Yiroep> I got the Andoran book, but that's mostly because Suppress Charms & Compulsions has saved my party on soooo many occasions. Liberating Command is great, too.
18:12:49 <Yiroep> Although I think Liberating Command is in something else, too.
18:12:51 <Avatar> just go to paizo.com and open up each book and click add to cart on all of them
18:12:56 <Yiroep> LOL Avatar.
18:12:59 <Philderbeast> playing a cleric mainly, with a sorc and palidin as my next chars to play
18:13:08 <Philderbeast> i would love to but i cant afford it atm
18:13:17 <Philderbeast> and i want to get some of them hard copy for GM'ing
18:13:18 <Yuugi> I am slowly collecting the catalogue
18:13:27 <Yuugi> I have so many of the campaign setting books
18:13:32 <Yuugi> And am working on the modules.
18:14:49 <Yiroep> I dunno.
18:14:52 <Yiroep> I just get it as a go.
18:15:05 <Yiroep> "Oh I need this module now, Buy." "Oh, I need this source book, Buy."
18:15:17 <Yiroep> I don't buy it until I need it.
18:15:58 <Yiroep> "Oh, I want to set this game in Irrisen....buy Irrisen source book."
18:16:48 <Yiroep> Thank god, work's over.
18:17:02 <Yiroep> Cya.
18:17:06 <Philderbeast> c ya
18:26:08 <Philderbeast> hmmm apparently i need to buy the advanced race guide first :S
18:26:13 <Philderbeast> for aasimar
18:31:19 <Avatar> just play a human
18:31:56 <Avatar> bit silly to play your first character as a non-core race
18:32:51 <Yuugi> I didn't think you needed the ARG
18:32:58 <Yuugi> Aasimar are in the Bestiary
18:33:02 <Yuugi> with PC stats
18:33:08 <Yuugi> Does PFS not allow it?
18:33:22 <Philderbeast> it does
18:33:31 <Philderbeast> i just done have a book for it
18:34:28 <Yuugi> ah
18:34:42 <Avatar> I thought you did need the ARG
18:34:46 <Avatar> might be wrong
18:35:06 <Yuugi> Well, I mean, because the Bestiary (the first one at least) is part of Core ASsumption right?
18:35:17 <Philderbeast> well thats where they fules are for it so i was going to get it
18:36:12 <Avatar> bestiary isn't part of the core assumption for players
18:36:34 <Avatar> I think only the CRB and the PFS guide are core assumption now
18:36:48 <Avatar> they removed field guide from it
18:37:38 <Yuugi> huh
18:38:27 <Yuugi> Yeah they also removed teh Bestiary
18:38:40 <Yuugi> > Since the core assumption for Pathfinder Society Organized Play is the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook and Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play
18:41:36 <Philderbeast> yea they just require the beasinary for GM'ing
18:50:03 <Spaceshot_note> I may be a few mins late, stupid train wants to sit at flinders for a few mins
19:08:16 <Philderbeast> I wonder how long it would take to get the gold for a Staff of power....
19:21:09 <Steven> level 13 or round abouts
19:21:26 <Steven> prolly 14
19:21:52 <Philderbeast> yea to make the gold limit you have to be ~level 13
19:21:59 <Philderbeast> to have enough fame
19:23:19 <Steven> ive always wanted to get a monk and have him wield a quarterstaff
19:23:32 <Steven> buy him a staff of power
19:23:44 <Steven> so i can spend charges to double weapon damage
19:24:25 <Philderbeast> wow i dont think i will ever get the gold :S
19:24:37 <Philderbeast> 142k ish total wealth at about level 12
19:28:35 <Steven> you earn right around 20-25% more wealth in pfs
19:29:01 <Philderbeast> i added that up using the chronical i got from the season 5 special
19:29:14 <Steven> if you manage to play out of teir in a positive way you should prolly end up with around 140% wealth
19:29:41 <Philderbeast> yea.... looks like im not going to be getting that staff of power :(]
19:29:48 <Philderbeast> unless i can buy it with prestige
19:30:18 <Steven> theres a cheese way to get it, but you'll have to find it on your own, im not contributing to that particular work around.
19:30:35 <Philderbeast> im guessing get it on a chronical....
19:30:55 <Philderbeast> at least thats the only thing i can think of
19:40:33 <Philderbeast> i got no idea how that would be possible.... oh well... i guess ill have to settle for something simpler
19:41:20 <Philderbeast> probably a staff of Evocation
19:43:38 <Philderbeast> well i thought of something.... but not that i can do on my own
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20:03:30 <Avatar> this coming saturday?
20:03:57 <Bloodlust> yup
20:04:46 <Avatar> I'll schedule it
20:04:47 <Avatar> what time do you want to run it
20:05:10 <Bloodlust> Not overly sure as yet
20:05:18 <Bloodlust> It'll probably be for the yanks evening
20:05:25 <Bloodlust> about 7pm their time I guess
20:05:39 <Avatar> when's that our time
20:06:51 <Bloodlust> probably about 7am my time
20:06:56 <Bloodlust> so, 9am yours maybe?
20:08:05 <Avatar> daylight savings starts tonight
20:08:23 <Avatar> it'll be UTC+11
20:09:17 <Bloodlust> ahh okay
20:12:02 <Avatar> what time do you want to run it in your time
20:12:21 <Bloodlust> I'm pretty easy
20:12:55 <Avatar> well you are running it yo, just give me a time
20:13:07 <Bloodlust> just had some redneck asshole with a private number call me and abuse me. Apparently I need to be reminded that I'm a "fat c*nt".
20:13:41 <Avatar> did you have a good laugh
20:13:52 <Bloodlust> I could barely understand him
20:14:02 <Bloodlust> I kept on asking him to speak up because I couldn't hear him.
20:14:09 <Bloodlust> When he did speak up I asked him who he was
20:14:30 <Bloodlust> Which naturally he refused to say, so I told him to speak up again, very politely
20:14:35 <Bloodlust> I even said "please"
20:16:17 <Avatar> is there more to that story
20:16:26 <Avatar> I was waiting for a punchline
20:17:03 <Bloodlust> he then just called me that and hung up
20:17:17 <Bloodlust> a few times he told me to "listen up"
20:17:26 <Avatar> listen up yo
20:17:27 <Bloodlust> and I told him that I couldn't hear him lol
20:17:47 <Bloodlust> I think I made him a bit frustrated and his plan to intimidate me didn't work so well.
20:18:17 <Bloodlust> I still have no idea what he wanted or why he was calling
21:04:50 <khaoz> hi there, anyone online?
21:19:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no...
21:19:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> :P
21:26:16 <khaoz> i have a question about PAthfinder, and oddly, this is the only place i thought i could find some real input
21:27:12 <Goya> Ask away - though - lots of us idle - so I don't know how much feedback you'll get at the moment - and I'm not really the best resource. =)
21:27:45 <khaoz> does anyone know what are the rules for buying magical items on non-level 1 characters?
21:28:17 <khaoz> i've been searching the paizo boards and found nothing
21:29:37 <Goya> Hrmm.. As far as I know - as long as the item is PFS legal - and you have the gold available - and you're in a scenario with a large enough settlement - it SHOULD be fine to buy.
21:33:05 <Goya> It's usually easier to use 'prestige' to buy items (e.g. wand of cure light wounds) than try to pay for it in gold.
21:33:15 <khaoz> and speaking in non PFS terms?
21:33:41 <khaoz> for example, if i am building a lvl12 char, thus i have a budget of 108K, i can spend it all on say one item?
21:34:51 <Goya> I would think the item would be subject to DM discresion.
21:35:42 <khaoz> so there is no 'official ruling' that you know of?
21:35:45 <Goya> There are charts and whatnot for the costs - but I don't know if you'll pull a 100k magic wand of uberness over the DM.
21:36:07 <Goya> No rules I know of - beyond cost and 'availability' (which is subjective).
21:37:04 <Goya> If it's NON PFS play - I would suggest getting with the DM to scope out the limits of the 'build'.
21:37:15 <khaoz> i was just making a drastic example with the 100K item... but more realistically, 2 or 3 25K items, wouldn't be such overpowering force, right? (armor, shield, weapon)
21:37:43 <Goya> I suppose it falls within the 'build' requirements.
21:38:33 <khaoz> well, Goya, thanks a lot for all the help, you've provided
21:39:34 <khaoz> have a great day/night
23:07:07 <Yuugi> I'm downloading SWTOR again.
23:08:07 <BoomerET> ¿¿¿
23:08:15 <BoomerET> Star Wars?
23:08:21 <BoomerET> Savage Worlds?
23:08:27 <BoomerET> Storage Wars?
23:08:37 <BoomerET> Swords & Wizardry?
23:09:07 <Yuugi> Star Wars: The Old Republic
23:09:09 <Yuugi> MMORPG
23:09:46 <BoomerET> Ahh, I don't care much for MMORPG's
23:09:59 <BoomerET> Going to give Pathfinder Online a try, maybe that will change my mind.
23:10:04 <Yuugi> I like SWTOR
23:10:12 <Yuugi> It's very cinematic for MMOs
23:10:16 <Steven> playin me some gw2
23:10:23 <BoomerET> Gamma World?
23:10:32 <BoomerET> Oh, Guild Wars :(
23:10:44 <Yuugi> heh
23:10:48 <BoomerET> You guys get me all excited, then there's a HUGE let down.
23:11:06 <BoomerET> I watched the last episode of Breaking Bad earlier today.
23:11:47 <Steven> i never really enjoyed the show
23:12:10 <Steven> I didnt like Sons of Anarchy or Breaking bad, cause it was like hey look my childhood in a nut shell.
23:12:49 <BoomerET> Wow, sorry to hear that.
23:13:10 <BoomerET> Those are two of my favorites, along with Big Bang Theory
23:13:34 <Steven> i like big bang thoery...
23:13:37 <BoomerET> My wife and I started watching Sleepy Hollow, there's something missing, I find it slow, boring and predictable.
23:13:38 <Steven> so many science mistakes.
23:14:05 <Steven> but still pretty funny
23:14:14 <BoomerET> I don't watch it to learn about science.
23:15:14 <BoomerET> But I know what you mean when you say why you didn't like Breaking Bad, I feel the same way about movies like Hunt for Red October.
23:15:29 <BoomerET> Reminds of the terrible people I worked with in the Sub force.
23:16:14 <Steven> i mostly hate sean connerys accent in hunt
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