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43:22 <CWheezy> barbarian scarred witch doctor
43:27 <CWheezy> not pfs legal, but raging hexes!
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01:47 <Ulzef2> hi
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40:12 <Darkkapow> Steven are you around?
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14:27 <Steven> necromancer level 10
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18:39 <Ulzef> ello people
19:22 <Steven> sup ulzef
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21:16 <Mekkis> sup
26:46 <Steven> thinkin metamagic persistance
27:09 <Brunius> nope
27:11 <Brunius> you need...
27:13 <Brunius> fleet
28:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I think he needs run first
28:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> makes fleet so much better
32:17 <Steven> no way.... the dudes a fat guy... he moves slow
32:39 <Brunius> what if he needs to get to the cheetos before anyone else
32:48 <Brunius> then he'll regret he didn't pick up fleet
39:44 <Steven> he mage hands them
39:53 <Steven> plus... he probably already has cheetos
46:35 <Darkkapow> Does anyone know where multi weapon fighting is from?
46:43 <Darkkapow> the SRD says it's from the Core Rule book
46:50 <Darkkapow> but I can't find it anywhere in there
46:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> Bestiary
47:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 1 I believe
49:53 <Darkkapow> danke
53:16 <Darkkapow> Steven
53:24 <Darkkapow> I have a legality question that I'm not sure on
53:32 <Darkkapow>  Feats: none of the feats are legal for play for PCs, animal companions, or familiars unless specifically granted by another legal source;
53:40 <Darkkapow> this is with bestiary in mind
53:52 <Darkkapow> the question is specific to multi weapon fighting
54:03 <Darkkapow> because it replaces two weapon fighting for things with more than 2 hands
54:06 <Darkkapow> is it PFS legal?
00:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> nope
00:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> unless something explicitly says so
00:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so no alchemist with 4 arms flaying 4 weapons successfully
03:07 <Mekkis> Darkkapow, it makes the character - on table variation - illegal
18:17 <CWheezy> eidolons get it
18:19 <CWheezy> as a thing
18:32 <Mekkis> no. They get multiattack
18:43 <CWheezy> oh whoops
19:16 <Mekkis> Multiattack, multiweapon fighting, and the multiweapon fighting feat are three completely different things
57:13 <Avatar> Mekkis: anything else happening with waking rune?
02:21 <Mekkis> not yet. Feel free to chip in
05:08 <CWheezy> you guys want a waking rune?
05:40 <CWheezy> I sitll have to gm it
05:44 <CWheezy> I REALLY want to do hard mode
05:48 <CWheezy> but that wont be happening I think
05:56 <CWheezy> hard mode is no fun
11:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> why do you "have to GM it"?
14:35 <CWheezy> I played it already
15:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so? that doesn't mean you need to run it
15:43 <Steven> a
15:58 <CWheezy> instead of have, I could have used the word "can" instead
17:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> exactly
17:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> unless you deem the need because it has a boon and you just wish to get it for a character
18:11 <CWheezy> already got it
27:01 <Steven> kinda wanna selective spell a black tenticles
27:30 <CWheezy> selective rods are good
30:36 <Steven> oh im buying a staff of the master necromancy
30:56 <Steven> spend charges to apply any metamagic i know
40:05 <Steven> persistant bouncing Bestow Curse
40:35 <Steven> all day!
41:24 <Steven> though, i'd prolly just blindness/deafness
46:08 <Steven> nevermind, its gonna be quicken
51:36 <CWheezy> quicken spell makes me sad
51:43 <CWheezy> because there are a lot of fun things that take swift actions
51:51 <CWheezy> but quickened spells are just so much better than most of them
51:56 <Steven> not as my wizard
52:18 <Steven> i only have one action that is a swift action
52:29 <CWheezy> such as for a magus, or inquisitor
52:46 <Steven> yup... quicken Ghoul Army incomming
52:52 <Steven> !throw 1d4+1
52:53 <diebot> Steven, 1d4+1: [1d4=2] 3
52:59 <CWheezy> heh, that spell
53:00 <Steven> 3 ghouls... like a boss
53:16 <CWheezy> at the level you get it they might crit and the opponent might roll a 1 on their saving throw
53:40 <Steven> its basically meat shields as far as i am concerned
53:49 <CWheezy> and a ghast!
53:52 <Steven> eat up 2-6 attacks
53:52 <CWheezy> the ghast is legit
55:00 <CWheezy> ha ha
55:15 <CWheezy> you have to make a fort save immediately when you cast the spell, because of stench
55:41 <Steven> no biggie... i have a rediculously good fort save for a wiz
55:52 <Steven> +10
55:53 <CWheezy> remember your nose plugs
55:59 <Steven> is my base
56:03 <CWheezy> that is a 20% failure rate
56:09 <CWheezy> oh it is a poison
56:19 <Steven> vs poison +14
56:28 <Steven> +13 even
56:31 <CWheezy> much better
56:53 <Steven> yeah vs disease its only +12
57:44 <Steven> think imma skip ghoul army for right now
57:48 <Steven> get Suffocation
57:51 <Steven> !spell Suffocation
57:54 <diebot> Steven, SUFFOCATION necromancy ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5, witch 5 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one living creature Comp: V, S, M (a vial containing a bit of the caster's breath) Duration: 3 rounds Save: Fortitude partial SR:yesSource: APG
57:55 <diebot> This spell extracts the air from the target's lungs, causing swift suffocation. The target can attempt to resist this spell's effects with a Fortitude save-if he succeeds, he is merely staggered for 1 round as he gasps for breath. If the target fails, he immediately begins to suffocate. On the target's next turn, he falls unconscious and is reduced
57:55 <diebot> to 0 hit points. One round later, the target drops to -1 hit points and is dying. One round after that, the target dies. Each round, the target can delay that round's effects from occurring by making a successful Fortitude save, but the spell continues for 3 rounds, and each time a target fails his Fortitude save, he moves one step further along
57:55 <diebot> the track to suffocation. This spell only affects living creatures that must breathe. It is impossible to defeat the effects of this spell by simply holding one's breath-if the victim fails the initial saving throw, the air in his lungs is extracted.
58:24 <CWheezy> it is a pretty good spell
58:43 <CWheezy> no matter what, a stagger is nice
58:45 <Steven> DC28
58:51 <CWheezy> probably need spell pen though
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22:34 <rzvx> afternoon
22:41 <Steven> yo
23:06 <rzvx> how's life?
23:30 <Steven> good
24:48 <rzvx> dm says we're getting into pathfinder again, so
25:26 <CWheezy> your next character is now a ranger who wanted to be a wizard
25:31 <CWheezy> he pretends his arrows are spells
25:48 <rzvx> does he supply sound effects?
26:12 <CWheezy> up to player
26:28 <CWheezy> I think we know the answer to that
26:45 <rzvx> innate ghost sound
29:24 <rzvx> coming from a 2d6 system all the numbers are suddenly big
32:34 <Steven> well... minimum i can roll on a knowledge roll is a 20 now
32:46 <rzvx> which knowledge?
32:52 <Steven> Kn Nobility
40:03 <rzvx> oo special material DR can be overcome by flat enhancement
41:57 <Avatar> ulzef are you about
43:41 <Avatar> okay well in other news
43:45 <Avatar> my we be goblins shirt arrived
11:16 <Avatar> there's my chipping in
11:34 <Avatar> I don't know where that's going because all I've been told is that stephen went to check with john
12:00 <Avatar> but john got back to us, didn't copy stephen in, didn't ask for input - so what does this depend on exactly
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14:34 <Mekkis> it depends on what you say. Given that we all have different agendas here, I think it's best for you to put forward your opinion, both to display your solidarity, and your views, uncoloured by what Ulzef and I have said.
15:27 <Mekkis> you seem to have no compunctions regarding telling ME how I've deviated from a scenario in a public forum...
16:04 <Avatar> yeah I know you won't retcon anything
16:16 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
16:21 <Mekkis> I HAVE retconned something
16:43 <Avatar> what
16:44 <Mekkis> which, fyi, DID involve a) a mistake I made; and b) a death of several characters.
16:50 <Mekkis> Rebel's Ransom
17:31 <Mekkis> I accidentally thought there were two guards, not just one.
18:06 <Mekkis> and I'm pretty sure you were playing that game
20:21 <Tashes> Avatar: did you just add me on snapchat?
21:30 <Mekkis> !find Landruff
21:31 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=359
21:47 <Mekkis> yeah. Landruff played it.
25:16 <Philderbeast> really do ypu guys have to go over this again.....
25:19 <Mekkis> I remember that quite clearly
26:54 <Philderbeast> please for the sake of my sanity, if your going to argue over gm descions please take it private so we can talk other things in here.....
28:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea, we have a lot of things to talk about here
28:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> like...
28:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> stuff
28:39 <Philderbeast> one question i have been meaning to ask ois how viable is going dervish on a cleric?
28:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and sometimes things
28:49 <Mekkis> dervish?
28:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd suggest oracle
29:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but that's just me
29:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I think he means scimitar dervish
29:22 <Philderbeast> you always say oracle spaceshot
29:24 <Philderbeast> yea
29:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no I mean oracle
29:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you'd get more bang for your buck
29:41 <Mekkis> it's because he made his oracle for the express purpose of trolling
29:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no, I named my oracle for the express purpose of trolling
30:03 <Philderbeast> lol
30:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> tempted to name my pet fox Mek or Bru
31:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also avatar, I clearly can't write legibly enough
31:11 <Mekkis> to do what?
31:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I wrote my charcter's name as Darkborn, and you read it as daruburn (his new name now)
31:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sorry, Darcborn*
31:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mekkis: to follow the tradition for that character
32:29 <Mekkis> of trolling
32:48 <Mekkis> it impresses noone.
33:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I dunno, I like it
47:57 <Avatar> I actually said it out loud throughout the game chief
48:01 <Avatar> and you never corrected me
51:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know, I didn't mind
53:02 <Mekkis> but yes, Avatar, I have retconned mistakes
20:36 <CWheezy> oracles are probably a little better, since they get more fighter feats, and profeciencies if you pick battle
21:19 <CWheezy> as a note, you probably want 13 strength, because you can't get pirahna strike with dervish dance
21:24 <CWheezy> power attack still works though
27:02 <CWheezy> also, a problem is that you can't take dervish dance at level 2
27:11 <CWheezy> while fighters can
27:12 <Brunius> Mekkis: WotW is this Sunday, right?
27:17 <Mekkis> yeah
27:37 <Mekkis> Avatar, could you please update topic to reflect this?
27:42 <Brunius> Avatar: Could we get that reflec.yeah, that
28:04 <Mekkis> Anyone want me to run something on Saturday?
28:05 <CWheezy> you can take a level of fighter instead, and not use the revelation on gaining profiency with everything
28:22 <CWheezy> could you run all of skull and shackles
28:25 <CWheezy> yaharrrr
28:26 <Brunius> I'll be out pretending to be interested in things my friends point out to me
28:45 <Mekkis> I _COULD_, it just wouldn't be fun
29:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> or you could take a level in dervish dancer bard
29:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and get free shit + dervish
29:47 <Mekkis> Or you could go cleric of Sarenrae, put your feats into the line, and play that way.
30:00 <Mekkis> Which answers your question: YES! You CAN.
30:15 <CWheezy> I meant the entire AP
30:17 <CWheezy> all 6 books
30:21 <CWheezy> speedrun style
30:25 <Mekkis> CWheezy, as I said, I COULD
30:28 <Mekkis> it just wouldn't be fun
30:30 <CWheezy> really
30:39 <CWheezy> I dunno lots of people find speedrunning fun
30:43 <CWheezy> I want to try speedrunning an ap
30:53 <CWheezy> I don't have a lot of knowledge of them though
30:54 <Mekkis> yes. Just like Steven can run the First Steps trilogy in 45 minuts
31:04 <CWheezy> that is pretty cool
31:05 <Mekkis> oh, it's simple:
31:07 <Brunius> which is silly
31:16 <Mekkis> "Here are your chronicle sheets. Now fuck off."
31:27 <CWheezy> I think speedrunning with some rules in place
31:40 <Mekkis> sure
31:42 <CWheezy> like you don't kill kujiko in rise of the runelords or something
32:03 <Mekkis> "Roll a d20. Here are your chronicle sheets. Now fuck off before I get really angry."
32:42 <Ulzef2> avatar liked the response
33:09 <Mekkis> Ulzef2, it's likely that if I don't here anything by the end of the week, I will send a scathing email.
34:12 <Ulzef2> i know stephen has john looking into and is thinking of reading it himself
34:29 <Mekkis> CWheezy, it's a ROLEPLAYING game. Not a "grind out chronicle sheets" game.
34:50 <CWheezy> yeah I figured out you were telling me that I am having fun the wrong way
34:58 <Mekkis> there is NO PLACE for a speedrun in PFS
35:09 <CWheezy> thanks for telling me that I enjoy doing the wrong things
35:17 <CWheezy> and that I should really play correctly
35:18 <Mekkis> you're welcome
35:24 <Mekkis> I hope you've learnt something
35:24 <CWheezy> because man everyone else does
35:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> cheezy, this isn't an MMO where it's a race to the end
35:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you can play it that way, but don't expect others to want to join you in that race
35:59 <CWheezy> like, I mean, how could I think of doing something differently
36:13 <CWheezy> terrible really
36:32 <CWheezy> mmos aren't races to the end btw
36:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you're not going to get any sympathy, we don't give a fuck
36:35 <CWheezy> since there is no end
36:58 <CWheezy> it is closer to running on a treadmill
37:36 <CWheezy> sympathy for what, thinking about the possibility of a non pfs idea?
37:45 <CWheezy> no I was told I was incorrect for that
37:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you didn't say it was non PFS
38:05 <CWheezy> skull and shackles is an AP
38:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> which gives PFS chronicles
38:22 <CWheezy> not all of it does
38:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> which I bet is the main reason you wish to play it
38:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so you can get the chronicles
38:36 <CWheezy> also, it is an AP first
38:50 <CWheezy> chronicles so that I can...not play pfs???
38:52 <CWheezy> ????
39:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> would you be still want to speedrun skulls and shackles if you didn't get the chronicles after?
39:55 <CWheezy> yes
40:12 <CWheezy> I wonder how fast you could complete an ap
40:23 <CWheezy> without sequence breaking
40:29 <CWheezy> and with sequence breaking as well, I suppose
42:53 <Ulzef2> of all the ap's to speed run though why skull and shackels
43:06 <CWheezy> just popped in my head because I like pirates
43:25 <CWheezy> I wonder which one is fastest
43:44 <CWheezy> skull and shackles would be a pain because of the boat ride slowing everything down
47:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> stop spoiling shit
47:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ffs
47:26 <CWheezy> that you are on a boat?
48:03 <Brunius|M> It's kind of amusing watching the one side of arguments with CWheezy
48:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> hahaha
48:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it would be
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52:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> Would people here be willing to try out one of my own made RPGs?
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