// #eevblog — 2021-09-11
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01:06:58 <Ampera> Won't you think of the children!
01:31:11 <electrohead> No?
01:31:13 <electrohead> Lol
01:31:16 <electrohead> I'm alright, man
01:31:33 <electrohead> Doing the work thing, and doing some wire management for my (once again) new setup
01:31:44 <electrohead> Dude, this 7510 is a beast
01:33:55 <rust_collector> good. I told a guy to get one like that, but he went for a lenovo x1 something, again. Now I can tell him he was wrong
01:34:44 <arch> electrohead, what 7510?
01:34:47 <electrohead> rust_collector: compile times are amazing
01:34:55 <electrohead> arch: the Dell Precision 7510
01:35:09 <electrohead> Bought a used one on ebay for 500
01:35:16 <electrohead> $500 *
01:35:28 <rust_collector> no more sword fights in the hall, while compiling? BOOO!
01:35:44 <electrohead> lmao
01:36:25 <electrohead> arch: here are the specs - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz, 32 GB RAM, 256 GB m.2 SSD
01:36:35 <electrohead> and it takes a secondary hard drive
01:36:38 <electrohead> <3
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01:37:14 <arch> i have a T430 with i7-3632QM, 16GB RAM, 1x SATA SSD, 1x SATA HDD in the ultrabay, and 1x mSATA SSD
01:37:29 <arch> dont need to fancy shmancy discrete GPU
01:38:05 <arch> best part: T430 cost me $120 used. lasted me through college. i used to play league of legends in the library almost every day lol
01:38:19 <electrohead> nice lol
01:38:47 <electrohead> oh yeah, this has two GPUs - Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530, and NVIDIA Corporation GM107GLM [Quadro M1000M]
01:38:55 <arch> i think this laptop is invincible tbh. it's still so fast, even by 2021 standards, that i think i will be able to comfortably use it all through 2040s even
01:39:00 <electrohead> it's my first time using nvidia-prime
01:40:21 <rust_collector> my T430s was free, so I am ok with it
01:40:50 <arch> T430s is not T430. the S models have soldered CPUs
01:40:54 <arch> garbage
01:41:05 <arch> im never gonna buy ANY laptops with soldered CPUs
01:41:09 <arch> or RAM or SSD
01:41:25 <rust_collector> I did not say it was. but I said it was freeeeeee, which makes it ok
01:42:36 <rust_collector> not that I have had any issues with soldered cpus, because it is always everything else that breaks first
01:45:49 <arch> yes, but the point with socketed CPUs, RAM, and SSDs is, at least you can get some use out of them if the motherboard breaks
01:46:18 <rust_collector> meh. the new board comes with them installed
02:08:20 <electrohead> soldered CPU? eww.
02:13:06 <arch> electrohead? eww.
02:13:32 <Ampera> laptops no longer have socketed CPUs
02:13:48 <Ampera> if you're buying socketed only, you're buying quite old
02:14:07 <arch> workstation class laptops, they have socketed CPU
02:14:25 <Ampera> citation needed
02:14:40 <Ampera> unless it's a desktop platform monstrosity, it's not done
02:16:35 <arch> alienware laptops? those are workstation class, and you can swap out their gpu and CPU
02:18:15 <Ampera> show me one
02:18:29 <Ampera> There are laptops that are just highly compacted desktops
02:18:45 <Ampera> but those do not use laptop chips, and I would argue are more akin to transportables rather than true portables
02:18:59 <arch> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/alienware-area-51m-r2-gaming-laptop/spd/alienware-area51m-r2-laptop
02:19:02 <EEVBot> [Title] - Alienware Area 51m R2 17-Inch Gaming Laptop | Dell USA
02:19:07 <arch> it is $2500, but there you go
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02:19:39 <watcher> hey
02:20:19 <arch> fuckin $3500 for the fully specced out model. you can buy a used car for that--won't be the best car, but it;ll sputter along just fine
02:20:43 <Ampera> It's a desktop
02:20:53 <Ampera> it uses a desktop CPU and a desktop chipset
02:21:24 <Ampera> Does it even have a battery life under load?
02:21:33 <arch> yes, 2 minutes
02:21:51 <Ampera> then I'd argue it's as much as a laptop as an osborne
02:21:54 <rust_collector> almost enough to shut down, lol
02:22:17 <Ampera> and doesn't invalidate my point, because all laptop-oriented platforms are now soldered only
02:22:27 <Ampera> there is no longer a modern Intel or AMD socket for laptop class chips
02:22:29 <arch> guess ill stick with old laptops
02:22:41 <arch> i have over 10 thinkpads by now
02:22:47 <arch> i collect em. i love their design so much
02:22:55 <Ampera> I could also grab a shoebox case, stick a bunch of desktop parts in it, and add a small monitor, keyboard and mouse
02:23:02 <arch> do it
02:23:02 <Ampera> if I do it right, I can bring it wherever, but it's not a laptop
02:23:28 <Ampera> why would I? I'm honestly considering a NexDock, as it's kinda my ideal laptop
02:23:49 <Ampera> I'd have to evaluate chroot linux environments, but it might even be completely usable
02:26:56 <Ampera> I think my main complaint with all lapdock designs on the market or in progress is there's never any place to put your phone
02:27:08 <Ampera> it'd be nice if you could something like slide it into the palmrest
02:29:31 <rust_collector> yep
02:41:03 <electrohead> my alienware is still going strong
02:41:09 <electrohead> I do need to repalce the USB connectors, though
03:01:41 <rust_collector> CPU: Dual Core Intel T2050 (-MCP-) speed/min/max: 798/798/1596 MHz haHA! bestest!
03:06:02 <rust_collector> that thing really needs an upgrade, if I can find one
03:27:24 <arch> bah, this damn common mode choke takes up too much space: https://i.imgur.com/JyP7y7Q.png
03:27:43 <arch> i have that large overhang , need to shrink it down some more
03:28:08 <DHess_US> I've seen common mode chokes set into a cutout in the board to save space.
03:30:04 <arch> what do you mean by cutouts?
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03:31:07 <rust_collector> a hole?
03:31:46 <arch> a picture of such a config would be helpful, i think
03:32:25 <watcher> where will it put in to?
03:34:25 <arch> watcher, it's just a practice project for me. first time off-line flyback build, using a topswitch
03:34:30 <arch> 5V 2A output
03:37:17 <DHess_US> They cut a hole in the board and solder the leads of the choke to pads with the choke in the hole.
03:41:49 <watcher> whey are those prototype pcb manifacters so populare by makers/hobbiest. the ads on youtube say 5 dollar pcb. but what they not say minimal order of 5 or 10 pcbs. if i want a pcb i want 1 or 2 not 10. i do not need 10 times my design. just 1 or 2. and if i make a mistake i need to order 10 now ones.
03:41:49 <watcher> ervices. you $5 pcb is $50 if you need to order 10 and need to wait a week to get them
03:41:49 <watcher> so i dont see way a hobbie maker will use those s
03:44:23 <arch> sellouts is what. fuckers are so bummy, they want 20c from spamming their channel with ads and ruining their reputation
03:45:15 <arch> i haven't ordered any PCBs from fabhouses since 2020 after learning diy etching
03:45:44 <arch> and it's much greener for the environment, since you dont throw out 90% of the boards if your PCB had a mistake
03:45:51 <arch> or if you dont use them
03:51:34 <watcher> and i think that most poeple still can use preafboard
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04:09:36 <hsn> Hey arch how about the transformer voltage isolation .. u go with ready made 1500vac isolated transformer?
04:10:18 <hsn> Or u will wind ur own and isolate it your self with that yellow tape thingy?
04:10:20 <arch> correct. i salvaged many topswitch fbts from old smps
04:10:37 <arch> no i am using a salvaged core, also from a topswitch, same topswitch im using here lol
04:10:45 <hsn> Nice
04:11:08 <arch> thinking quickly... https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/072/925/327.jpg
04:11:23 <arch> that sword in the back is T3sl4
04:22:20 <arch> watcher, perfboard sucks ass. you can't use that shit for anything useful
04:22:29 <arch> once you go copperclad, you dont go back...
04:23:47 <watcher> so what is your advice for your first couple projects or if your not only one ocb?
04:28:15 <arch> err, for my first project, i tried to build a mini flyback smps, but it failed. then i made this 555 timer transient load tester, which it totally love the design so much, i made 2 more! https://moltensolderlabs.com/projects/555_timer_transient_load_tester
04:28:16 <EEVBot> [Title] - 555 Timer Based Transient Load Tester | Molten Solder Labs
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04:28:54 <arch> it's a clone of this, but costs $3 in parts instead of $40: https://www.richtek.com/Design%20Support/Technical%20Document/AN038
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04:29:35 <arch> this i mean: https://www.richtek.com/Design%20Support/Reference%20Design/RD0004?sc_lang=en
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04:29:44 <arch> why dafuq do you need to slap a microcontroller on that
04:29:51 <arch> aint nobody got money fo dat
04:31:03 <arch> basically, any 555 timer related project makes for a good first project
04:31:10 <arch> except for blinky lights
04:31:14 <arch> waste of time
04:33:41 <rust_collector> blinky lights is a waste of time, yes
04:33:44 <arch> actually i've been meaning to make another version of that, with 2 555 timers, so i can make a stepped load from, say, 1A to 2A. first pulse would be a long pulse, say 1ms, and the second pulse would ride on top and be shorter, say 200us
04:33:59 <arch> instead of having a bunch of different bulky resistors around
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04:49:54 <rust_collector> blah blah blah
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05:52:16 <hsn> https://youtu.be/19x213y_uk4
05:52:16 <hsn> Me at end .. yep .. thanks for reminding me how stupid im
05:52:17 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Taylor's Series of a Polynomial | MIT 18.01SC Single Variable Calculus, Fall 2010
06:00:18 <rust_collector> hsn.....NO!!!
06:01:49 <hsn> Why not
06:02:10 <hsn> rusty where is the kruat guy?
06:02:42 <hsn> Kraut
06:07:09 <rust_collector> uuh, he should be home in frankfurt by now. maybe he is doing husband-ish sorts of things?
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06:49:24 <hsn> rust_collector: im going to create a Masculism move are u with me? Because we little creatures who deserve ..
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08:38:10 <prometheus> hsn: Kraut... now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
08:38:12 <prometheus> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojan_Kraut
08:38:13 <EEVBot> [Title] - Bojan Kraut - Wikipedia
08:38:32 <prometheus> obviously not the same guy but you triggered some flashbacks to my uni days :D
09:12:57 <electrohead> o/
09:13:16 * Ampera hugs electrohead
09:13:32 <Ampera> how are you electrohead
09:13:40 <electrohead> prometheus: by chance, do you hang out with a guy named bob?
09:13:47 * electrohead hugs Ampera
09:13:48 <electrohead> hey dude
09:13:54 <electrohead> good, you?
09:14:09 <Ampera> depressed, lonely, and conflicted
09:14:24 * electrohead offers more hugs
09:14:43 <Ampera> just another painful episode in the existential crisis that is my life
09:17:40 <prometheus> electrohead: don't know anyone named Bob, pretty rare name in Croatia :)
09:17:50 <Halcyon> Morning all
09:17:52 * Halcyon hugs Ampera
09:18:02 * Ampera stares distantly at Halcyon
09:18:15 <Ampera> oh god not another yugoslav, TheDude was enough for one channel
09:18:33 <Halcyon> ?
09:18:36 <steve30> hi Halcyon
09:18:40 <Ampera> Halcyon, you need a better backlog
09:18:43 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
09:18:46 <prometheus> I was born after the fall of Yugoslavia, so not Yugoslav :P
09:18:48 * steve30 needs a coffee
09:18:54 <Halcyon> I don't read the backlog
09:18:55 <Ampera> prometheus, I meant the term geographically, as opposed to politically
09:19:00 <Halcyon> I live in the moment
09:19:18 <Ampera> I couldn't think of a/the demonym for the balkans
09:19:20 <prometheus> What's the deal with that TheDude dude
09:19:31 <Ampera> He's a filthy slovene
09:19:37 <Ampera> :P
09:19:43 <Ampera> and also a pretty cool dude
09:20:01 <prometheus> lol, well I'm a Croat so hopefully I'll behave better :P
09:20:07 <Ampera> >.>
09:20:25 <Ampera> I'm joking of course, I just happen to have had a personal interest in modern balkan history
09:20:46 <Ampera> so the entire region is interesting to me, including people who come from there
09:22:47 <prometheus> Cool, someone from your family is from here or?
09:23:10 <prometheus> I'm just a bog-standard introvert EE, so don't get your hopes up :D
09:23:46 <T3sl4> ah, so you have tesla in your blood
09:24:09 <Ampera> No, I decided that when I was in college, for the one semester I was, I wanted to learn about the most complicated (yet still interesting) topic I could
09:24:37 <Ampera> I don't think anyone could describe the geopolitical history of Yugoslavia as straight forward and easy to understand, and I still barely know what happened
09:25:03 <Ampera> It gets more interesting once you go even further back in time, but that's where I can't even say I know very much about it
09:26:22 <Ampera> prometheus, that being said, unless you are younger than I am, you were most likely born before the true end of Yugoslavia (depending on how you define end)
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09:28:27 * steve30 feels crap today
09:28:29 <prometheus> T3sl4: I hope so :)
09:28:43 <Ampera> steve30, so do I
09:28:45 <Ampera> join the party
09:28:58 * steve30 snuggles up to ampera
09:29:03 <prometheus> Ampera: yeah, really messy history, tbh I don't think the full truth will ever be known
09:29:04 <Ampera> <3
09:29:31 <prometheus> I was born in 1995. and SFRY dissolved in 1992.
09:29:49 <Ampera> FR Yugoslavia renamed in 2003, which was the technicality I was banking on
09:29:56 <prometheus> Yeah technically there was still Yugoslavia after that in federal form
09:30:09 <prometheus> But I consider '92. the end
09:30:57 <Ampera> I consider nothing, I just look at books and pretend I know what I'm talking about
09:31:09 <Ampera> I do know why it dissolved though
09:31:15 <Ampera> it was all the fault of the eurovision song contest
09:31:20 <Ampera> you guys hosted it, and then everything burst into flames
09:31:28 <prometheus> Croatia and Slovenia declared independence in 1991.
09:31:43 <prometheus> But yeah it's to complex to get into reason why
09:32:10 <prometheus> Basically after Tito died in 1980. things started escalating quickly
09:32:23 <Ampera> Oh no I know the general history of what happened, I'm just trying to be funny
09:32:33 <prometheus> And fall of communism in eastern Europe accelerated things also
09:32:38 <prometheus> Aha hahahah
09:33:11 <prometheus> It's 1:32 AM here, my ability to parse messages is near 0 :P
09:33:17 <Ampera> Tito held up a cult of personality where nationalist sentiment was thoroughly restricted. Afterwards, the governance was left up to the states, which started back up the hundreds years old bickering they've always had
09:33:49 <Ampera> Economics started to take a dump in the 80's with the rest of communist europe, and really spiraled in the late 80's. Then basically everyone started fighting at once
09:34:10 <Ampera> which is why it's pretty much impossible to say what was the starting pistol, because so many things contributed
09:34:39 * T3sl4 aims a starting pistol at franz ferdinand
09:35:18 <Ampera> you had the serb separatists in croatia and bosnia, albanian tensions in southern serbia, and enough sideshows to be beyond my comprehension
09:35:55 <Ampera> it's honestly even impossible to even describe what happened without pissing someone off. I could say someone did ethnic cleansing, and that'd be enough to start a shitshow in the right audience
09:35:57 <Ampera> to this day
09:36:26 <Ampera> was and is the largest conflict in europe since WW2, and also proved, yet again, that the UN is completely useless
09:37:05 <prometheus> Yeah, gather Balkan people in one room and start talking about the war and Tesla's ethnicity, and you've got yourself an absolute shitshow :D
09:37:25 <prometheus> But that's a pretty good summary for someone who's not native
09:37:36 <Ampera> I've found it's usually serbs who come out of the woodwork, especially if you mention kosovo
09:38:29 <Ampera> but it's like the middle east, there's been war and fighting over ethnic and religious tensions probably since the fall of the eastern roman empire
09:38:41 <prometheus> Well I'm still mad Hackaday was in Serbia and not here :P
09:39:01 <Ampera> I've never been to a conference or any sort of convention
09:39:04 <Ampera> whatsoever
09:39:12 <prometheus> Yeah, hopefully it's finally over with new generations
09:39:40 <Ampera> I think so too. Not that there won't be some to settle the sand, but I am of the personal opinion that the internet has brought us into a post-war society
09:39:58 <prometheus> I've been to a few local one's but this was the first big one
09:40:11 <Ampera> I'd love to visit the area some day, just because why not
09:40:26 <prometheus> Yep, at least in this part of the world
09:40:30 <Ampera> I've heard from family that yugoslavia (now mostly croatia) was considered quite the vacation spot
09:40:57 <prometheus> Yeah it's wonderful, although my opinion is a bit biased :P
09:40:59 <Ampera> I have a german passport, which may or may not make things a bit easier
09:41:20 <prometheus> Where are you from btw?
09:41:26 <Ampera> Not that one cannot love their own country, but I'd say the bias would be greater on my end. People usually have a dimmer view of where they live than foreigners
09:41:36 <Ampera> I live near the capitol of NY
09:41:46 <Halcyon> But we don't hold that against him prometheus
09:41:46 <Halcyon> :P
09:42:06 <Ampera> Halcyon, you know exactly what I want you to hold against me, but you're just too chicken to try
09:42:10 * T3sl4 holds something else against Halcyon
09:42:14 <Halcyon> ;-)
09:42:16 <Halcyon> :D
09:42:32 <Ampera> Hope you stick around, prometheus, if you can pardon the plethora of innuendo and general mental instability
09:42:40 <Ampera> never let it be said that this channel is dull :P
09:42:57 <prometheus> Oh don't worry, I'm used to it :D
09:43:03 <Halcyon> I wonder if it's too early for a chilli dog
09:43:13 <Ampera> prometheus, here's a funny anecdote. The capitol of NY is called Albany, and residents are called Albanians
09:43:29 <Ampera> and I believe I know one or two (european) Albanians who live in Albany
09:43:32 <Ampera> meaning they are double albanians
09:44:10 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/zZgn3JF
09:44:11 <EEVBot> [Title] - Into the Beardiverse - Album on Imgur
09:44:30 <Halcyon> https://twitter.com/TomLawrenceTech/status/1436344111829770256
09:44:35 <Halcyon> OK, that's pretty pornographic
09:44:43 <Ampera> I want into the boobiverse now
09:44:46 <Ampera> where they have tits on their faces
09:45:11 <T3sl4> Ampera: you're looking for oglaf
09:45:19 <T3sl4> Halcyon: great, until you need to change it :P
09:45:27 <Ampera> I am looking for love in all the wrong places
09:45:30 * Ampera checks underneath T3sl4
09:45:31 <Ampera> yep
09:45:33 <Ampera> wrong place
09:45:33 <Halcyon> I don't think you're supposed to change it T3sl4 :P
09:46:01 <T3sl4> it's kind of... set in stone ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)
09:46:08 <Ampera> needs more knob and tube
09:46:11 <prometheus> Ampera: yeah we used to joke about that in US geography class
09:46:17 <prometheus> "zapadni šiptari"
09:46:28 <Ampera> you guys have a US geography class?
09:46:30 <prometheus> Because, Albanians = šiptari
09:46:43 <Ampera> most people have no fucking clue what a croatia is here
09:46:50 <prometheus> We learned about US third year i believe
09:46:51 <Ampera> and you guys have a class about our geography?
09:46:53 <prometheus> High school
09:47:26 <Ampera> prometheus, then which state looks like a massive dick
09:47:30 <Ampera> the one Halcyon lives in doesn't count
09:47:36 <Halcyon> :P
09:47:54 <prometheus> Florida?
09:48:17 <Halcyon> Ampera, you're giving me the shits again. BRB
09:48:29 <Ampera> prometheus, aye
09:48:36 <prometheus> But it's no match to Norway+Sweden :D
09:48:47 <Ampera> the guy cranking one out in the lake?
09:48:55 <Halcyon> Norway is pretty, I wouldn't mind going there
09:49:13 <Ampera> fucking expensive
09:49:28 <prometheus> I have a friend who works there, yeah very expensive and awful food he says
09:49:29 <Ampera> Croatia would be a neat place to visit for a vacation since it's about as expensive as where I live
09:49:31 <Halcyon> Yeh but so is Sydney
09:49:35 <Halcyon> So *shrug*
09:49:44 <Ampera> and I wouldn't want to visit Sydney either
09:49:48 <Ampera> too many pricks there
09:49:54 <Halcyon> We don't want you either Ampera
09:50:56 <Ampera> The only problem is I am monolingual, so a vacation anywhere, especially in eastern europe, would be a linguistic challenge
09:51:24 <prometheus> English is pretty well spoken here
09:51:29 <Ampera> maybe I should bring T3sl4 with me, he's at least cunnilingual, so we're set for half of the people there
09:51:31 <prometheus> Especially in tourist places
09:51:37 <prometheus> lol
09:52:02 <Ampera> What's the crime like
09:52:17 <T3sl4> everyone who talks with me, proclaims me a cunning stunt
09:52:24 * electrohead films
09:52:47 <electrohead> prometheus: it was a reference to "Prometheus and Bob"
09:52:47 <Ampera> wouldn't want to bring electrohead with, he'd just film everyone really awkwardly while undoing his pants
09:52:49 <electrohead> lol
09:52:53 <electrohead> Ampera: lmfao
09:52:56 * electrohead rubs on Halcyon
09:53:25 <Ampera> oh great, you're gonna make him squirt, and then whatever comes out is gonna have to give you three wishes
09:54:30 <prometheus> Ampera: crime rate is pretty low, if you don't count corruption :D
09:54:52 <Ampera> lol, our governor just resigned
09:54:54 <Ampera> so that's no different here
09:54:56 <prometheus> No but really, there was a shooting recently, one person killed, and it was big news for two weeks
09:55:00 <prometheus> Rare event here
09:55:06 <Ampera> Nothing like where I live
09:55:52 <Ampera> If things are looking like they might allow it, maybe I'll visit Germany next year
09:55:59 <Ampera> I've yet to have a real vacation
09:56:18 <T3sl4> Ampera: electrohead irl https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/genieweek2.png?t=2161CF
09:56:31 <Ampera> hahahaha
09:57:10 <prometheus> xD C&H is brilliant
09:57:41 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/7SheYA5
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10:06:06 <Halcyon> Hey electrohead :D
10:09:07 <electrohead> T3sl4: lmfao. that's awesome.
10:09:11 <electrohead> Halcyon: hey mate :D
10:21:18 <Halcyon> Cute slippers T3sl4
10:33:26 <Halcyon> I might go for a drive today. It's so nice
10:42:52 * steve30 is burning CDs
10:43:15 <rust_collector> you can just recycle them, like normal people
10:49:37 * Ampera recycles rust_collector's rust
10:51:08 <steve30> i reckon this CD drive might be bad
10:52:44 <Halcyon> How old is the burner?
10:52:55 <steve30> circa 2004
10:53:05 <Halcyon> It's not a Sony drive is it?
10:53:18 <steve30> no, matsushita
10:53:39 <Halcyon> My first CD writer was a Sony 2x speed with a caddy. The laser in it failed twice
10:54:10 <electrohead> steve30: is it a reader, or read/writer combo?
10:54:10 <steve30> I do have an £800 Pioneer DVD burner lurking around somewhere
10:54:17 <steve30> (one of the first DVD burners)
10:54:29 <steve30> electrohead, DVD reader + CDRW
10:55:06 <electrohead> Ahh ok
11:01:29 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JyjZI3LUM
11:01:31 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: REJECTED by DON HERTZFELDT (Blu-ray restoration)
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11:31:48 * Ampera digs a 6 ft hole
11:31:53 * Ampera places Halcyon down inside of it
11:31:57 * Ampera joins Halcyon down inside of it
11:32:01 * Ampera fills it in
11:37:10 <steve30> OK, I think I've had enough of the iMac G5 for this year.
11:37:50 <Ampera> lol
11:38:00 <Ampera> that's how I felt when I was playing with my power mac G5
11:40:38 <Tezzers> Start date of the 20th lads
11:40:52 <Tezzers> Oh. did I even tell this eevblog?
11:41:12 <electrohead> we are the only eevblog.
11:41:19 <electrohead> \m/
11:41:34 <Tezzers> I prefer Afternet #eevblog
11:41:54 <Ampera> ^
11:42:05 <Ampera> my good friend jspiros is in there
11:42:18 <electrohead> I honestly don't understand why there are two separate channels
11:42:34 <electrohead> I tried asking already, and my question got pushed around, like I wasn't supposed to ask or something
11:42:35 * electrohead shrugs
11:42:41 <electrohead> If only we all got along?
11:42:53 <Ampera> In the beginning, there was only the one on AfterNET
11:43:02 <Ampera> then Halcyon decided he wanted to run it, and then forked it
11:43:03 <Tezzers> electrohead : Something something drama in the mods here and mods there and Dave and Halcyon or something?
11:43:09 <Ampera> because the people running the old one didn't want to give it up
11:43:28 <Ampera> I was right behind Halcyon thinking it'd be cool, but then I ended up with you sorry fucks
11:43:30 <Ampera> now I'm regretting it
11:43:44 <electrohead> Why do you regret it?
11:43:49 <Tezzers> Somehow I ended up in your miserable fucking Discord full of degenerates
11:43:54 <Ampera> I ended up with you sorry fucks
11:44:04 <electrohead> There's the door, then? =>
11:44:06 <electrohead> Lol
11:44:09 <Ampera> Tezzers, awful big talk for you being one of them
11:44:16 <electrohead> Hahaha
11:44:22 * electrohead sips his beer
11:44:25 <Ampera> I did, but what I've never told you is that Halcyon has been blackmailing me to keep me in here
11:44:30 <steve30> The first channel was started somewhat unofficially on afternet, then Dave thought it might be worthwhile having an official one on Austnet to help 'save' Austnet from closing.
11:44:31 <Ampera> so as much as I want to leave, he won't let me
11:44:42 <Tezzers> Ampera: I wasn't until you suckered me in. You just bring everyone around you down.
11:45:01 <Ampera> Tezzers, don't you mean I come down on everyone around me?
11:46:10 <Tezzers> That'd require everyone under you to be hard and straight
11:46:21 <Tezzers> You don't have that affect on anyone
11:46:40 <Ampera> Straight as a kid in a porn shop.
11:47:49 <Tezzers> whowha
11:48:38 <Ampera> Scared straight.
11:55:54 * electrohead blares cannibal corpse for everyone in the channel
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12:05:27 <Halcyon> You can leave anytime you like Ampera, I'll miss you, but I'm not your keeper :P
12:06:03 <Ampera> Of course I can leave. If I want to wake up one morning to find you've had my family killed.
12:06:07 <Ampera> You're a sick fuck
12:06:30 <Halcyon> steve30, that's correct. But there is a bit more to the story. We were in discussions with people over in the Afternet channel and tried to negotiate to make that the official channel, but a certain person who shall remain unnamed refused to even discuss or entertain the idea at all, just put roadblocks the entire way.
12:06:54 <Ampera> jspiros
12:06:57 <Ampera> and he had good reason
12:07:08 <Halcyon> So we went with an alternative, which happened to coincide with the closure of oz.org
12:07:40 <Halcyon> Sure, he is entitled to have reasons. I'm not going to debate whether they were right or wrong or anything like that
12:07:50 <Halcyon> But he just outright refused to even talk about it
12:07:59 <Halcyon> Which I find a bit immature, but whatever
12:09:52 <Halcyon> So yeh, that's how we ended up here. gremlinz and others have been extremely supportive which has been great.
12:14:33 <Halcyon> The main thing is you're here Ampera :D
12:14:40 <Ampera> /leave
12:14:47 <Ampera> whoops, double tapped that
12:14:52 <Halcyon> :P
12:15:06 <Ampera> all I do here is use this channel as an outlet for my mania
12:15:20 <Halcyon> Hours of entertainment for us though :P
12:15:50 <Ampera> If the constant pain and agony of my life is entertaining I suppose
12:16:29 <Halcyon> That's the spirit!
12:16:36 * Halcyon hugs Ampera
12:16:44 <Ampera> piss off, you don't give a shit about me
12:16:48 <Ampera> all you do is berate me and where I live
12:17:00 <Ampera> and all I can do is fight back to no end
12:17:03 <Halcyon> And post birb videos
12:17:20 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - This thing in the dumpster HAS to be useful for something, surely? https://t.co/AtSzWbOx0Y
12:17:48 <Halcyon> I think someone needs to tell Dave that just because it's in the dumpster, he doesn't have to grab it
12:18:41 <Ampera> Being thrown away in the trash is one of the ways I used to fantasize about dying/being killed
12:18:50 <Halcyon> I know, you've said
12:18:57 <Ampera> I forget my previous manias
12:19:05 * steve30 needs more paracetamol
12:19:08 <Ampera> I haven't had one in a long time
12:19:12 <Halcyon> Aww what's wrong Steve?
12:19:26 <steve30> My glasses are hurting my head
12:19:31 <Halcyon> Too tight?
12:20:01 <steve30> Wonky due to a bodge repair
12:20:06 <Halcyon> Ah
12:20:07 <steve30> I'm awaiting a new part for them
12:20:18 <Halcyon> Can you convert it into a monicle like Col. Klink?
12:20:48 <Halcyon> *monocle
12:21:31 <Ampera> Halcyon, want to do a call in a bit?
12:21:52 <Halcyon> Yeh can do. I need to go for a drive to the supermarket so I can talk to you on the way?
12:22:06 <Ampera> give me a few minutes to get dressed
12:22:09 <Halcyon> Me too
12:22:38 <electrohead> I'll call as well, so that Ampera is forced to be on hold
12:22:39 <electrohead> Lol
12:22:49 <Halcyon> You're a bitch electrohead :P
12:22:59 <Ampera> I think I can conference call us
12:23:03 <electrohead> My spoon is too big.
12:23:06 <Ampera> then at least I can chat with electrohead afterwards
12:23:15 <Halcyon> Yeh if you want.
12:23:23 <Ampera> electrohead, can you message me your PSTN real quick
12:23:35 <electrohead> You already have my number?
12:23:45 <Ampera> somewhere probably, but I'd have to dig for it
12:23:47 <Ampera> wait
12:23:54 <Ampera> I think I have it somewhere, one sec
12:24:18 <electrohead> :P
12:24:22 <Ampera> Halcyon, are you ready
12:24:33 <Halcyon> Not yet
12:24:42 <Halcyon> I'll give you a 1 minute warning in a moment
12:25:05 <electrohead> For the love of god, and all that is holy, my anus is bleeding.
12:25:15 <Ampera> hot
12:25:31 <electrohead> Lol, that's a reference to the video I posted earlier
12:25:47 <electrohead> I'd love to get into animation, I have too many ideas
12:26:07 <electrohead> My manic brain and mindset would have fun creating off-the-wall animation shorts
12:26:19 <Ampera> I'm too impatient for animation
12:26:35 <Halcyon> I'm just getting my shoes on Ampera, call me in a minute or two.
12:26:35 <electrohead> I find it soothing, as already I've dabbled with it
12:26:54 <Ampera> Alright, I'll call electrohead first, as it should only charge me anyways
12:27:09 <electrohead> Righty-o.
12:27:19 <Tezzers> Where's T3sl4 ?
12:27:25 <Tezzers> He hasn't told me how fucked up my new job is
12:28:00 <electrohead> Tezzers: your job is fucked
12:28:05 <Ampera> actually, see the complication is google voice calls through my normal phone app
12:28:05 <electrohead> Does my opinion count at all?
12:28:07 <T3sl4> too bust fucking up my job
12:28:08 <electrohead> :P
12:28:10 <T3sl4> busy*
12:28:14 <Ampera> so if I added halcyon, that'd get switched through cell
12:28:20 <Ampera> so I'll just call him first then add you
12:28:26 <electrohead> Ahh ok, whatever works
12:28:28 <Ampera> that way I don't get charged international cell rates
12:28:44 <electrohead> Roger that.
12:28:47 <Tezzers> T3sl4 : What the fuck are you doing at your job?
12:28:57 <electrohead> Tezzers: I think he jerks off
12:29:04 <electrohead> and, a lot?
12:29:12 <T3sl4> well i mean, since you're here electrohead
12:29:14 <Tezzers> Hands free between the legs?
12:30:44 <electrohead> lol
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14:20:14 <steve30> I just spent ages trying to figure out what my AP's user/pass were
14:20:19 <steve30> Turned out to be admin/admin.
14:20:29 <Halcyon> That was going to be my first guess
14:28:33 <Halcyon> Anyone want to play a game?
14:29:27 <steve30> There
14:29:29 <Halcyon> T3sl4, DogWomble_, Ampera, electrohead ?
14:29:29 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/stuff/ssid.png
14:29:41 <Halcyon> Hahaha love it Steve :)
14:30:02 <steve30> Its even broadcast on 2.4GHz :)
14:30:03 <DogWomble_> Halcyon, technically on work time ultil 7 :P
14:30:09 <Halcyon> So.. no?
14:30:09 <DogWomble_> after then i could probably do tsomething
14:30:14 <Halcyon> Okies
14:30:20 <Halcyon> I'll go water the lawn then
14:41:59 <DHess_US> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1680395012926623656/5735299537BF85155C6D1EBD6B8912EBFF2EAE28/
14:52:14 * Halcyon lobs bits of chicken at Ampera
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14:56:56 <Halcyon> Howdy Kuschelpony
14:57:02 <Kuschelpony> good morning
14:57:41 <Kuschelpony> whats going on today?
14:58:19 <Halcyon> Had a lazy day today
14:58:28 <Halcyon> Enjoyed the sun, was about 24 degrees
14:59:28 <Kuschelpony> im just waiting for the 7am news and then go for shopping food
14:59:41 <Halcyon> What are you buying?
14:59:45 <Kuschelpony> weather is expected to be half sunny with remote thunderstorm
15:00:23 <Kuschelpony> not yet so many ideas, likely not much more than bread, vegetables, fresh eggs and some intense cheese, feel these weeks somewhat not interested in meat
15:07:09 <Kuschelpony> also looking for an somewhat useable usb stick soundcard that has stereo line in
15:12:54 <Kuschelpony> see you back later
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16:10:21 * steve30 coffees
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16:51:06 <Halcyon> Hey DogWomble_ was this week streaming week? I forget
16:51:20 <DogWomble_> it was next week :)
16:51:33 <DogWomble_> i still need to write the run sheet
16:52:09 <Halcyon> Ah all good
16:52:11 <Halcyon> Just checking
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16:58:04 <Halcyon> Welcome back K
16:58:07 <Halcyon> Kuschelpony,
16:58:47 <Kuschelpony> Whinny
16:59:11 * Halcyon offers Kuschelpony an apple
17:00:23 <Kuschelpony> sweating weather here, 24°C and 65% humidity in the bedroom, just strated the AC
17:00:44 <Halcyon> 24 degrees is lovely, not so much the humidity
17:01:13 <Kuschelpony> its much to hot for me, i better go around 15 to 18
17:01:21 <Kuschelpony> at least im back from shopping for today and found an promising strong cheese
17:01:33 <Kuschelpony> if its getting much colder, i can still put on my fur :)
17:01:48 <Halcyon> What kind of fur?
17:01:57 <Kuschelpony> my fursuit :)
17:04:51 <Halcyon> Oh THAT fur
17:04:52 <Halcyon> Hahah
17:05:01 <Kuschelpony> my true body
17:05:07 <Halcyon> Indeed
17:08:15 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW Video on EEVblog2! Interesting Dumpster Find https://t.co/EqisMzPstv
17:12:16 <Halcyon> Ampera, you wanted a spot welder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w9dFNRtqlg
17:12:17 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: I Made a Battery Spot Welder from an Old Microwave and Excessive Mahogany
17:21:43 <steve30> there, laundry is done
17:21:55 <steve30> i was planning on going out later but i don't feel up to it
17:21:56 <Halcyon> Yay!
17:53:18 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdvIY0CJaXw
17:53:19 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Why this observatory fires lasers at satellites
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19:10:40 <hsn> Where is my lovely ysjeolfir
19:11:17 <DogWomble_> Halcyon, I do love Tom Scott as a YouTuber
19:11:39 <DogWomble_> this is another one of his - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY
19:11:39 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The Problem with Time & Timezones - Computerphile
19:35:28 <hsn> https://twitter.com/thebias_news/status/1436285460435795968?s=19
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22:58:24 <Ampera> Halcyon, seen it, am indeed tempted
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