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00:28 <Nothing\> actually it was mojave radio i had to look up. Apparently the OST is just a bunch of original music from the game during times of ehanced ambience that i couldn't recognize for the life of me
05:36 <Nothing\> damn you idle idas
05:52 <Nothing\> don't be an idle ida
05:56 <Nothing\> be a talky teddy
06:13 <Nothing\> or a chatty chet
06:35 <Nothing\> just don't be a humble honkey
06:39 <Nothing\> be a mighty whitey!
06:51 <Nothing\> (unless you're black)
07:06 <Nothing\> then be a raisin asian
07:58 <Nothing\> they say vinegar and purple are the only two words that you can't rhyme, but i'm finding a lot of denonyms that have no rhyming words either.
08:25 <Nothing\> i guess it doesn't count for names since they're not technically words
08:49 <Nothing\> anyways
08:55 * Nothing\ breaks out into song
08:58 <Nothing\> MY DINGALING
09:01 <Nothing\> MY DINGALING
09:10 <Nothing\> I WANT YOU TO PLAY
09:14 <Nothing\> WITH MY DINGALING
09:26 <Nothing\> plz bby? ;)
10:15 <Nothing\> wait, was the song "hit me baby one more time" about a woman who enables her abusive spouse?
11:03 <Nothing\> and that other "i'm a genie in a bottle" song was about what's her skull being a transexual
11:11 <Nothing\> christina aguilera
11:32 <Nothing\> genie in a bottle is an obvious allusion to her being in the closet
11:49 <Nothing\> and rubbing the right way is an allusion to how a male masturbates by rubbing his penis
12:11 <Nothing\> she's basically saying, you jack her off with style and it'll be enough to get her to come out
12:39 <Nothing\> or should i say CUM out
20:57 <Nothing\> hrm, a friend of mine i haven't seen in 15 years msged me wanting to get together to catch up
21:39 <Nothing\> i think i'll take him up on it, even though every other friend who's done the same only wanted forgiveness for something they did to wrong me in the past and then disappeared as quickly as they came back into my life
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40:10 <arch> is it possible to test EMI qualities of an off-line flyback without a SA? i do wanna get a SA, but gotta wait til christmas bonus i'd say
40:40 <arch> got a scope with FFT, not sure if that feature can be used
49:46 <Nothing\> ah hey arch
49:48 <Nothing\> how's it going
50:12 <Nothing\> arch: i dunno if it's a problem with all DSOs, but the FFT on mine sucks ass
50:26 <Nothing\> it's pretty much just like a really dense scatter plot
50:50 <Nothing\> which means no lissajous figures, which was one thing i was really excited to try with my scope when i got it
51:05 <Nothing\> guess i'll have to wait till i get an analog scope for that
51:12 <Nothing\> get or make
51:35 <Nothing\> i've got 3 CRT monitors upstairs, i was thinking one day maybe i could make a crude scope out of one of them
52:17 <Nothing\> though it seems like it'd be easier using a CRT with plates instead of coils to control the beam, i dunno why
52:39 <Nothing\> what's the term? electrostatic vs electromagnetic?
02:30 <Nothing\> the hell
02:58 <Nothing\> i used a calculator to work out the frequency of this 555 i have in astable mode and it's trying to tell me it's 6.7hz
03:06 <Nothing\> but the cap's only 10nf
03:21 <Nothing\> with R1 and R2 at 1k and 10k respectively
03:39 <Nothing\> and i can hear it's more like 10-12khz
16:07 <Nothing\> check it out, I got a new picture to put on my wall
16:09 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/c1L4pRq/20210904-014338.jpg
16:36 <Nothing\> i absolutely fell in love with the Super Metroid one as soon as I saw it. And it was the last one, so I knew it wouldn't last long on the shelves at all.
16:54 <steve30> cool
17:12 <Nothing\> steve30, yeah, i'm just not very impressed with the Mario calendar
17:42 <Nothing\> it reminds me of The Simpsons where Bart gets his Krusty trading cards and it's just pictures of Krusty in mundane positions that no thought was put into
18:38 <Nothing\> that's basicalyl how the calendar is. Just a bunch of pictures of SMB characters in random poses without much thought put into it. I mean it makes for good wall candy. But I'm not impressed with the level of effort that seemingly went into it.
19:06 <Nothing\> they could have taken screenshots from random scenes in actual games and I'd have liked it better
21:07 <Nothing\> ooohhhoooo man
21:09 <Nothing\> https://www.lifesizecustomcutouts.com/AG1936-Alien-Cardboard-Cutout
21:11 <EEVBot> [Title] - Life Size Alien Cardboard Cutout $39.95 | Great For Parties And Events
21:31 <Nothing\> i wanna get like 3 or 4 of these, put them around my mum at night while she's sleeping and then wait for the screaming to ensue
21:53 <Nothing\> i've always wanted to wake someone up to being surrounded by lifesized cutouts of grey aliens
24:47 <steve30> lol
28:30 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
30:37 <Nothing\> man this place is dead
30:48 <Nothing\> why's this place always so dead whenever i'm so talkative
31:32 <Nothing\> oh yeah, i figured out how to do fingerprint recognition on my phone. It's so much better than a password.
32:16 <Nothing\> except i always thought for some reason they'd scan your fingerprint with the touchscreen. Which confused me because I didn't think any touch screen in the world had like 10 micron resolution to read a fingerprint
32:29 <Nothing\> but in my phone at least, it's built into the power button
33:02 <Nothing\> really weird cuz there's no visible window for a camera or anything, so i'm really curious how it works.
33:24 <Nothing\> maybe some super accurate measurement of van der waals forces?
34:29 <Nothing\> hrm this says either capacitive or ultrasonic
34:58 <Nothing\> says older or less portable devices use optical scanners, but those require adequate lighting to work
36:21 <Nothing\> speaking of ultrasonic, i noticed i can hear the PWM on my ecig for cannabis extracts
37:49 <Nothing\> i can also hear a distinct non-60hz buzzing coming from my one cell phone charger that continues for about 5-10 seconds after i unplug it. Unless I short the blades of the plug. Which tells me it probably uses a capacitive dropper. Would you say that's a fair assumption?
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48:25 <Nothing\> hrm well the capacitance meter on my DMM seems to have crapped out
48:58 <Nothing\> i just checked a 10uf ceramic and after bouncing around a whole bunch it finally settled on ~300nf
49:24 <Nothing\> but putting it into an oscillator, the oscillator frequency is just what you'd expect from 10uf
50:10 <Nothing\> i have a dedicated LC meter, one of those little $10 jobs. But I occassionally steal the LCD screen out of it to experiment with
51:19 <Nothing\> every other LCD i tried to buy either had a serial backpack module on it, or had headers you had to solder on yourself, which i haven't got solder or an iron appropriate for small pitch soldering
33:16 <Ampera> got my 8 string back
33:23 <Ampera> intonation is better now
37:25 <electrohead> o/
37:34 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
37:50 <electrohead> careful, my knee is still fucked
37:53 <electrohead> lol
37:55 <electrohead> hey dude
38:11 <Ampera> got my 8 string back
38:13 <Ampera> <3
38:57 <electrohead> <3
39:08 <electrohead> I still need to order new strings and fix my wiring issue on mine
39:15 <Ampera> try stringjoy
39:24 <Ampera> haven't played with it much, but my new strings are from them, and they're quite good
39:30 <Ampera> they have a decent selection too
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43:44 <Nothing\> oh hey
43:47 <Nothing\> signs of life
43:49 <Nothing\> how about that
43:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, hey! where's my hug?
44:00 <Nothing\> hrmph
44:04 * Ampera punches Nothing\ 
44:06 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
44:09 * Ampera punches Nothing\ 
44:10 <Nothing\> awww
44:11 * electrohead whacks Nothing\ with one of his crutches
44:15 <Nothing\> love punches
44:23 <Nothing\> electrohead, how come you're on crutches?
44:31 <electrohead> fucked my knee up, yay
44:31 <Nothing\> don't tell me you're crippled too now
44:40 <electrohead> only partially
44:43 <electrohead> lol
44:44 <Nothing\> aw yeah that sounds familiar now that you mention it
44:55 <Nothing\> but i can't remember any details
45:05 <Nothing\> also
45:10 * Nothing\ hug punches Ampera 
46:16 <Nothing\> lol i was watching this video where a doctor read exerpts from the first ever experiments with local anesthetics used in nerve blocks. Basically since the only local anesthetic back then was cocaine it was just a bunch of doctors injection cocaine into their spines
46:56 <Nothing\> or documentmenting the use of "spinal cocainization" as they called it to create a regional block so they could perform major surgeries with no pain
47:17 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
47:59 <Nothing\> but apparently the lumbar punctures caused a loss of quite a bit of cerebrospinal fluid so it made the subject sick to their stomach and gave them an agonizing unconsolable headache for several days after
48:17 <Nothing\> it was funny though when it came to the bit where the doctors were experimenting on themselves
48:33 <Nothing\> they'd do shit like beat themselves on the shins with a hammer
48:42 <Nothing\> insert needles into their leg down to the bone
48:50 <Nothing\> violently crush and twist their testicle
48:51 <Nothing\> s
49:24 <Nothing\> and of course after the anesthetic wore off, they felt all of these injuries and experienced all of the bruising one would expect
49:45 <Nothing\> frankly i'm surprised they didn't break one of their legs beating the crap out of them with a hammer
50:08 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2K9Bd76tY
50:09 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: McDonald's Land Sea and Air Burger Sausage
50:28 <Nothing\> but it reminds me of being a little boy after the dentist being warned not to chew on my lip.
51:02 <Nothing\> aha
51:11 <Nothing\> i SEA what he did there
51:17 <Nothing\> thAIR
51:20 <Nothing\> :P
52:18 <Nothing\> btw here's an interesting article about the math of electrocardiograms and fast fourier transforms and such. I thoughti t was interesting.
52:20 <Nothing\> https://www.intmath.com/blog/mathematics/math-of-ecgs-fourier-series-4281
52:23 <EEVBot> [Title] - Math of ECGs: Fourier Series - Interactive Mathematics
57:56 <electrohead> interesting
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17:47 <Nothing\> ugh i should brush my teeth
18:02 <Nothing\> thta coffee i had coated my tongue in gross tasting crud
23:21 <Nothing\> gross
23:27 <Nothing\> the coffee made my tongue brown
23:32 <Nothing\> glad i brushed my teeth
30:16 <electrohead> yum.
34:49 <Nothing\> yeah, coffee + dry mouth doesn't make for a very nice feeling in your mouth
35:04 <Nothing\> makes your mouth feel very fuzzy
35:26 <Nothing\> and not in the tannin way
46:31 <Nothing\> https://flightaware.com/
46:33 <EEVBot> [Title] - FlightAware - Flight Tracker / Flight Status
46:44 <Nothing\> such a useful site for planespotting
47:19 <Nothing\> it got me into planespotting. Otherwise I wouldn't have known where to get any info on any flights in real time like this
47:59 <Nothing\> i can hera a jet flying low overhead, then go on here and look up who it is and where they're going
48:11 <Nothing\> or follow the emergency services helicopter
51:04 <jaymax> My brother-in-law gave me $20 today for re-packing 18650 cells in a couple old drill packs.
51:38 <jaymax> Pleasantly surprised.
52:43 <Nothing\> nice
52:58 <Nothing\> i guess it makes sense
53:17 <Nothing\> if you think about it, it's almost like repacking ammo from brass you collect at the range, right?
53:42 <jaymax> I cannot relate to that one, but likely.
54:05 <Nothing\> that is, if you're unfamiliar with the process, and i'm not terribly familiar with it but know the general process
54:26 <Nothing\> but when you shoot guns at the range, the brass cartridges are ejected from the gun
54:39 <jaymax> yeah
54:50 <Nothing\> so people collect those, pack em with powder, pop a new bullet in em and there ya go
55:25 <Nothing\> so long as you know how much powder to use so you don't blow up your gun
55:42 <Nothing\> or, god forbid, somebody else's
55:52 <jaymax> I guess how I don't relate is if the striker needs replacement/maintenance, and if the powder is made or purchased.
56:34 <Nothing\> but this is speculation, i have no idea if that's a common practice or not. You'll have no ask someone in a place where guns are more ubiquitous than Canada.
56:54 <jaymax> Yeah I am a n00b with firearms. I'm canadian. Sorry.
57:02 <Nothing\> yup me too
57:12 <Nothing\> i mean i know a bit about em, but i'm anything but an expert
57:33 <Nothing\> where abouts you from if you don't mind me asking? I'm between Toronto and Windsor
57:46 <Nothing\> that area of ontario
57:57 <jaymax> I've had exposure to them as a child. Hants County raised, Nova Scotia.
58:06 <Nothing\> ah right on
58:08 <jaymax> So near the other Windsor.
58:13 <Nothing\> so you've got a funny accent? :P
58:26 <Nothing\> actually i was just saying i think it was yesterday how i like maritime accents
58:27 <Ampera> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/315713347368648705/883787963014709318/20210904_145558.jpg
58:31 <Ampera> delicious cancer
58:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, isn't that right?
58:45 <Ampera> sure
58:46 <Nothing\> also hey buddy
58:53 <jaymax> Probably. When I start talking to country folk, my hilbilly accent comes out.
59:02 <Nothing\> jaymax, that's okay though i've honestly never shot a gun in my life.
59:26 <Ampera> I have
59:27 <jaymax> I've probably pulled a trigger four times.
59:39 <Ampera> I've never shot a firearm though
59:39 <Nothing\> jaymax, I always thought it was a sort of combination of irish and a stereotypical Canadian accent
00:03 <Nothing\> or maybe that's more newfoundland
00:14 <Ampera> I got a new lightbulb for my bathroom
00:30 <Nothing\> I'm sure there's a difference between newfoundland, PEI, NS, and NB accents
00:39 <Nothing\> or is there much of a difference?
00:42 <Ampera> I got it off ebay, it was a really weird listing
00:47 <jaymax> My voice is online somewhere - one moment please
00:47 <Nothing\> that you know of
01:09 <Ampera> but it looks cool and disco
01:18 <Ampera> I looked at it for a while and my eyes started to burn, I wonder why
01:20 <Ampera> probably too hip for me
03:38 <jaymax> There is - especially within NS. Cape Breton is NFLD light, Annapolis Valley is essentially valley girl, I don't know how to characterize Halifax accents and Truro-areas, Lunenburg areas
04:06 <Nothing\> but yeah re: recycling used ammo casings i'm just guessing based on 2 ridiculous things. 1. how you can recycle ammo from spent casings in the Fallout games and 2. in GTA V there's a sign in the shooting range that says not to steal brass. Which lead me to read up about whether that was a real thing or not but i thought it was jus for actually recycling the scrap metal
04:36 <Nothing\> i knew a couple of firefighters from cape breton
04:57 <jaymax> https://odysee.com/@jaymax:6/OBP-002-A-rapid-tack-weld-session:5 here is a voice of mine
04:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - OBP-002 - A rapid tack-weld session
05:09 <Nothing\> not sure why they moved here but their accennts were strong
05:59 <Nothing\> heh
06:19 <Nothing\> jaymax, have i shown you the version of that rick astley song sung with lyrics in old english?
06:28 <jaymax> NFLD and Cape Breton are much like the Iron Islands in Game of Thrones lore - so much salt and rust.
06:52 <jaymax> Probably not, Nothing\
06:52 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cErgMJSgpv0
07:07 <Nothing\> it's neat how far english has come
07:26 <Nothing\> that middle and old english are pretty much their own languages
07:40 <jaymax> Queued.
07:51 * Nothing\ nods in approval
08:58 <jaymax> So how common is it to procounce Toronto "Tran-na" out there?
09:08 * Nothing\ falls asleep suddenly, falling forward in his chair and smacking his face off of the brick stoop in front of him rousing him to a rude awakening.
09:18 <Nothing\> jaymax, not at alll
09:38 <Nothing\> we usually just tuh-ron-toh
09:51 <Nothing\> or turano
10:15 <Nothing\> but even here we have different accents
10:30 <jaymax> Gotcha. It could be how the Ontario ex-pats adapt to accents here then.
10:57 <Nothing\> like seome peopele here say "mondee", "tuesdee" "wednesdee" "thursdee" etc
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11:12 <Nothing\> where most other people just say it normal
11:23 <jaymax> What is normal?
11:55 <Nothing\> mun-day, tooz-day etc
12:01 <Nothing\> day instead of dee
12:32 <MrMobodies> Hello I have a quick question
12:38 <Nothing\> yeah shoot
12:41 <jaymax> My brother-in-law is someone who uses filler words, but it's not "ummm....", it's "fuckin...."
12:42 <Nothing\> i'll try to help
12:43 <Ampera> nobody cares about my lightbulb :/
12:46 <MrMobodies> what does the partial word "phile" mean
12:47 <Nothing\> no guarantees though
12:53 <Ampera> MrMobodies, great enjoyer of
12:57 <Nothing\> Ampera, sorry m8 what about your lightbulb?
13:05 <Ampera> it's cool
13:06 <Ampera> and dangerous
13:08 <MrMobodies> Audiophiile, paedophile and so on
13:11 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, yeah phile means lover of
13:17 <MrMobodies> aaah
13:29 <MrMobodies> electrophile
13:46 <Ampera> What it is, is effectively a standard mercury discharge lamp, but with a fused quartz tube and no phosphor
13:55 <jaymax> So do lover of feet have to choose an entire new set of terminology?
13:59 <MrMobodies> you got one of those?
14:00 <Ampera> which means it primarily generates UV-C
14:06 <Ampera> yeah, https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/315713347368648705/883787963014709318/20210904_145558.jpg
14:11 <Ampera> using it right now to disinfect the bathroom
14:35 <MrMobodies> I rememeber having one of those
14:36 <MrMobodies> in 2004
14:40 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, exactly. Or in chemistry you can have chemicals in reactions called nucleophiles which are attracted to the nucleus of the reagent
14:43 <MrMobodies> I ordered it by mistake for my desk lamo
14:57 <MrMobodies> and all it di was light up blue like that
15:14 <MrMobodies> that's interesting... about the reaction inside
15:17 <Nothing\> or you can have electrophiles which are chemicals which attract electrons in reactions
15:54 <Ampera> MrMobodies, they are extremely dangerous and can cause severe injury to your eye, or poison you with ozone
16:10 <Ampera> there is a sign on the door and everyone in the house has been told not to enter
16:17 <MrMobodies> Yeah well I put it back in the packaging
16:23 <MrMobodies> I think it was a philips
16:31 <MrMobodies> 11w bulb
16:41 <Ampera> this is a 35W bulb off ebeay
16:43 <Ampera> er, ebay
16:47 <Nothing\> the first time with nucleophiles are called SN reactions, or substituted nucleophilic. Or SN1/SN2.
16:49 <Ampera> no brand, but it's got an embedded driver
17:30 <MrMobodies> Ampera what about you eyes?
17:36 <MrMobodies> if you are using it
17:38 <Nothing\> it's pretty neat how they work. It's like musical chairs for electrons
17:44 <Ampera> It's in a closed door bathroom
17:45 <Nothing\> oh yeah heh
17:47 <Ampera> so I'm not looking at it
18:01 <Nothing\> i heard that lime juice will make your skin sensitive to the sun
18:04 <MrMobodies> I like that colour
18:17 <MrMobodies> oh and your bathroom is nice with the space
18:19 <Ampera> It is a really nice color and cool effect
18:24 <MrMobodies> I got a tiny little thing on the extension
18:44 <MrMobodies> and it's a shower with low pressure
18:49 <Nothing\> so i put some lime juice on my hand and 2 other parts of my arm and exposed them for 15 minutes
18:53 <Ampera> one thing that has happened is night club owners have installed them for the effect, and it's ended up burning the shit out of people's eyes
19:13 <Nothing\> reading aout it though, apparently the burns it causesm last for weeks at a time
19:19 <Ampera> I don't believe they were permanently injured, but their eyes burnt like they had red hot sand in them, with really no way to fix it besides pain drops
19:44 <MrMobodies> "so they pay through the nose for drinks" at some of these nightclubs in my country, and when they do that they pay with their eyes....
19:59 <Nothing\> so i was trying to make it mild enough that i'd just have some redness of the area
20:23 <Nothing\> Ampera, UVC lamps?
20:25 <Ampera> lol
20:25 <MrMobodies> nothing you injured yourself with one of those bulbs?
20:34 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, no no no
20:37 <Ampera> Nothing\, yes, I just said it was a UVC lamp, you keep ignoring what I write :P
20:40 <Nothing\> you're mixing up conversations
20:42 <MrMobodies> aaah
20:43 <Nothing\> i just used sunlight
20:58 <Ampera> I have one in my bathroom running right now
22:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, it would be helpful if you'd use bold characters for all of the most important details of what you write so i don't have to read through everything
22:09 <Nothing\> not just yours' but everybody's
22:12 <MrMobodies> it's reminds me a bit of my turquise ink for my fountain pen
22:14 <Nothing\> :P
22:32 <Nothing\> and why do i feel like i just interrupted a football match
22:34 <MrMobodies> which is that light blue
22:37 <Nothing\> ie soccer
23:00 <Nothing\> yeah, UVC has a very distinctive color
23:01 <Ampera> oh sorry, I thought the guy who writes entire novels into chat wouldn't need it
23:11 <jaymax> *Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisci elit, sed eiusmod tempor incidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur. Quis aute iure reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint obcaecat cupiditat non proident, sunt in culpa qui
23:12 <Nothing\> it's almost a blue color
23:18 <jaymax> officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.*
23:20 <Nothing\> and the bulbs are perfectly clear
23:24 <jaymax> *Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisci elit, sed eiusmod tempor incidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur. Quis aute iure reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint obcaecat cupiditat non proident, sunt in culpa.*
23:40 <MrMobodies> Jaymax? what is all that suppose to mean?
23:45 <jaymax> Well, too much to bold
24:13 <Nothing\> correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe UVC bulbs are made from wood's glass
24:23 <jaymax> I'm trying to troll Nothing\'s request
24:28 <Nothing\> not that i rememeber exactly what that is
24:33 <Nothing\> what request?
24:57 <jaymax> *it would be helpful if you'd use bold characters for all of the most important details of what you write so i don't have to read through everything*
24:57 <MrMobodies> Google translate Jaymax thing... "I pray that the pain itself may be important, to obtain the main benefits, but that time will fall upon such an effort as to cause some great pain. For, in order for the slightest to come, any one of us undertakes any laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it. Who, however, rightfully condemns you, wants to be in pleasure, to escape
24:57 <MrMobodies> from pain, to escape from the pain that can't be delivered. Excepteur are blinds and lusts don't show, they are at fault.*"
25:10 <MrMobodies> Italian too
25:32 <jaymax> https://www.loremipzum.com/en/
25:32 <MrMobodies> what's all that about pain...
25:33 <EEVBot> [Title] - Dummy Text Generator Lorem Ipsum
25:37 <jaymax> MrMobodies
25:39 <jaymax> ^
26:01 <Nothing\> jaymax, you're giving me paragraphs of generic stuff they print in written articles like news papers and books in movies
26:18 <jaymax> ...that I was trying to bold
26:18 <Nothing\> don't think i don't know what lorem ipsum is :P
26:27 <jaymax> MrMobodies was asking
26:35 <Nothing\> oh was he
26:38 <Nothing\> i missed that
26:50 <MrMobodies> Sounds a bit like what snake oil marketting would use: "Latin words that, as they are positioned, do not form sentences with a complete sense, but give life to a test text useful to fill spaces that will subsequently be occupied from ad hoc texts composed by communication professionals."
26:51 <Nothing\> i thought you were using it as a confusing reply to something i said lol
26:58 <MrMobodies> except for the latin words
27:34 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, sounds like a hairy pothead spell, lorem ipsum!
28:15 <Nothing\> that's what fallout's missing
28:18 <Nothing\> magic!
28:28 <MrMobodies> Next time someone tells me about bs I;ll remember that one and tell them "lorem ipsum"
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28:35 <Nothing\> been playnig a lot of fallout lately
28:38 <MrMobodies> thanks for that
28:54 <Nothing\> but no i think magic would ruin fallout
29:13 <rust_collector> it is a bit late to think about that, imo
29:19 <Nothing\> it'd be like "hurr the radiation made us all magic now"
29:28 <Nothing\> and the elder scrolls would ensue
29:37 <Nothing\> *then
30:06 <MrMobodies> right.... " Lorem ipsum is a placeholder text commonly used to demonstrate the visual form of a document or a typeface without relying on meaningful content."
30:13 <MrMobodies> So really it is spam....
30:23 <rust_collector> no, it is a placeholder
30:34 <MrMobodies> oh
31:01 <Nothing\> so it's like null
31:02 <MrMobodies> like this? https://cdn2.mhpbooks.com/2014/03/test_ttp_big.jpg
31:07 <MrMobodies> art
31:41 <MrMobodies> I see, I always wondered what that was with the bold text used to turn into an image.
31:55 <Ampera> that bulb works well
31:58 <Ampera> bathroom is flooded with ozone
32:07 <Ampera> opened the door to turn it off, and I got a good whiff of it
32:09 <Ampera> exactly what I wanted
32:25 <MrMobodies> Is it harmful to bacteria?
32:31 <rust_collector> art is art. I don't know that stuff. but if your boss wanted you to show him what a book is, you could make a book, and use lorem ipsum to fill the pages, in stead of spending 2 years writing an actual book
32:48 <Ampera> MrMobodies, ozone and UV-C are, to anything living
33:03 <Ampera> Ozone operates similarly to hydrogen peroxide, as it's a strong oxidizer
33:06 <rust_collector> and quite a few dead things as well
33:09 <MrMobodies> so that double's up as a sanintizer...
33:15 <MrMobodies> *sanitizer
33:18 <Ampera> it's O3, which is not stable, and wants to give away an oxygen
33:20 <Ampera> yes
33:51 <Ampera> UV-C is ionizing, as in it has enough energy to knock electrons off atoms (which is how it generates ozone)
34:06 <Ampera> but that effects is also deadly to living things
34:19 <MrMobodies> if it was put a in rat infested place that would make them go blind
34:20 <Ampera> it's why you can get a sunburn, and it's why the sun is a carcinogen
34:26 <Ampera> probably
34:28 <MrMobodies> and they wouldn't be able to find their way arounfd that easy
34:32 <Ampera> it'd probably kill them
34:32 <MrMobodies> and get caught
34:39 <MrMobodies> that's an idea
34:54 <Ampera> the problem is if they drop dead in the wall, you have a dead rat in the wall
34:58 <rust_collector> yeah, make them suffer as much as possible
35:02 <Ampera> lol
35:13 <Ampera> I'd imagine the death to be somewhat similar to drowning
35:14 <MrMobodies> I see... maggot infestation...
35:30 <MrMobodies> and the smell
35:33 <Ampera> not that drowning is pleasant, but it's a common aspect of pest control
35:46 <MrMobodies> I'd catch them and turn them into pets.
36:02 <MrMobodies> put them in a cage where they'd be fed and taught manners
36:13 <MrMobodies> but not practical
36:25 <MrMobodies> that's what I'd like try out
37:09 <MrMobodies> I know some that catch them and sell them down the pet shop for food to snakes
37:13 <Ampera> it's been done
37:41 <rust_collector> I hope they have some big snakes
38:43 <MrMobodies> So they'll gulp them down in one go
39:21 <rust_collector> they have to, because they don't have a knife, or a way to hold one
02:21 <electrohead> !paste
02:21 <EEVBot> Paste services: http://ix.io/ - http://sprunge.us/ - https://www.pastebin.com/
02:35 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Quit: Ex-Chat
03:32 <rust_collector> I want pasta services
08:31 <T3sl4> tiring of eating paste?
08:50 <rust_collector> yef I am
10:26 <electrohead> lol
10:34 * electrohead rubs T3sl4's nipples
11:00 * T3sl4 pastes electrohead
11:15 * electrohead :: Fear Factory - H-K (Hunter Killer)
11:16 <electrohead> \m/
12:02 <T3sl4> thereisafearfactoryinthisdivision
18:42 <Nothing\> man codeblocks makes no sense
18:57 <Nothing\> i can't fnid a c/c++ compiler so i trie java
19:44 <Nothing\> and it just looks for java in the same place as it looked for the c\c++ compile
19:53 <Nothing\> p
19:58 <Nothing\> ntihsaienthaoseidn
20:00 <Nothing\> compiler
20:31 <Nothing\> maybe i'll try thath other one, what's it called
20:38 <Nothing\> origin?
20:54 <Nothing\> that doesn't sound right
21:02 <rust_collector> maybe you should just give it a compiler?
21:08 <Nothing\> i did
21:10 <Nothing\> mingw
21:16 <Nothing\> i didn't recognize it
21:39 <Nothing\> and was like "derp give compiler 2 me plox"
21:47 <Nothing\> when i'm sowing it right where mingw is
22:01 <rust_collector> ah windows... sorry
22:40 <Nothing\> yeah the frustrating thing is, i HAVE had codeblocks working before and with no problems at all
22:55 <rust_collector> if you reboot 3 times, then disable the graphics driver, it will probably work
23:08 <Nothing\> actually my prefered IDE was dev bloodshed
23:51 <Nothing\> i wander if i could set the path for a derelictin installation or cygwin if it'd find something
25:12 <Nothing\> ORACLE
25:15 <Nothing\> that's it
25:18 <Nothing\> not origin
25:32 <rust_collector> ok, good night
25:49 <Nothing\> g'night man
25:59 <Nothing\> hope you sleep well
36:37 <Nothing\> cool
36:39 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.com/Time-Roaming-California-Republic-Polyester/dp/B06W55JVHJ/ref=pd_sbs_7/144-3245047-0730215?pd_rd_w=DtlmP&pf_rd_p=823f75d3-b996-4a9c-b5f9-0ccf7e5a48d7&pf_rd_r=D3SDJFXTBGKFSQKV1T59&pd_rd_r=888493ef-de42-42d9-8f24-ee7f6f77ff93&pd_rd_wg=YDDMz&pd_rd_i=B06W55JVHJ&psc=1
36:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - Sorry! Something went wrong!
36:49 <Nothing\> an NCR flag on amazon
36:58 <Nothing\> but oddly enough, it's made in china
37:31 <Nothing\> which is hilarious if anyone knows the story of fallout
39:09 * electrohead laughs at Nothing\ and attempts to run away
39:37 <Nothing\> teehee
40:24 <Nothing\> i'm wondiering if mortal kombat 11 is any good
40:34 <Nothing\> actually why ask why i can pirate
43:08 <electrohead> I can't run for shit right now
43:11 <electrohead> heh
43:16 <electrohead> anyone could catch up to me, fairly quickly :p
58:05 <rust_collector> me too, and i don't have a broken knee
59:24 <electrohead> lol
00:06 <Some_Person> Goodwill stuff; only bought 1 thing ($0.99 SATA card; have an old PC that I think could use it): https://imgur.com/a/YqmNK9O
00:08 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
08:49 <Nothing\> electrohead, that's alright, my shoulder only has about 120 degrees of movement
11:51 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
45:12 * electrohead adds 60 degrees to Nothing\
50:09 * Ampera bakes electrohead at 420 degrees until high
51:03 <electrohead> I don't do that, sorry
53:17 <jaymax> what's all this apologizing aboot?
54:07 <electrohead> Nothing\ at all
54:09 <electrohead> :p
56:06 <jaymax> That's good eh. Be unfortunate if we took Maine back. And all the Irving stations.
56:28 <electrohead> lol
57:52 <jaymax> Don't bothering trying to sabre rattle with Tim Hortons as a bargaining chip. Between Wendy's, Burger King, and (probably) others, it's been tossed around like a used condom anyway.
01:24 * electrohead tosses jaymax's sala...
01:26 <electrohead> err
01:29 <electrohead> that's wrong.
01:31 <electrohead> hahaha
02:38 <jaymax> yeah, best leave my salamanders alone.
03:15 <jaymax> I was unpleased when Ampera plucked the tails from them two months ago.
03:34 <jaymax> displeased even
03:46 <Ampera> If you fucking touch my beautiful maine
03:55 <jaymax> Neigh
04:16 <Ampera> I will snap you in half so cleanly you could look at yourself in the wound
05:20 <jaymax> Fine, then the Bar Harbour - Yarmouth ferry ... shit or get off the pot.
05:44 <Ampera> how about I shit on you while smoking pot
06:15 <jaymax> Oooh, you'd like that, wouldn't ya?
06:27 <Ampera> yes daddy
06:39 <Ampera> I feel like making VMs
07:18 <jaymax> Already got bored of making BMs huh?
07:27 <jaymax> U no fun
07:37 <jaymax> Annnnyyyyhoo
07:38 <Ampera> gonna be reconfiguring my web cluster
07:58 <Ampera> I currently have a DB VM and web VM. This was before I really knew what I was doing, so I ran apache with mod_php
08:43 <Ampera> this new config is gonna be a reverse proxy/load balancer VM, two web VMs, and a DB VM
08:59 <jaymax> I remember that sort of setup in the PHP4 days. My how times have changed.
08:59 <Ampera> currently thinking about how I want to sync the webroots, I might try webroot on NFS
09:40 <Ampera> It would be cool if I could do a redundant NFS filesystem, but redundant over more than one host
16:04 <Halcyon> Morning
16:11 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
17:10 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
17:24 <Halcyon> \o/
17:28 <Halcyon> All of the affection
17:33 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
17:37 <Halcyon> Bleh
17:46 <Ampera> good
17:47 <Ampera> good
17:52 <Halcyon> How are you?
17:57 <Ampera> I played with my UV-C bulb today
18:53 <Halcyon> Fun
19:30 <Ampera> currently wondering how to implement a distributed webroot for a load balancer
19:41 <Ampera> and also wondering if it's even worth it
24:20 <Halcyon> I'll give you a too and a load
24:23 <Halcyon> *root
24:33 <Ampera> ya can't even spell
24:39 <Ampera> the best you could give me is dyslexia
24:39 <Halcyon> Nup
24:53 <Halcyon> I just woke up and slightly dusty from last night
25:12 <Ampera> dusty?
25:19 <Ampera> from all the nothing you did?
25:22 <Halcyon> A bit hungover
25:27 <Ampera> stop drinking
25:32 <Ampera> it'll put another 20 years on your life
25:32 <Halcyon> I did, last night
25:32 <Ampera> er
25:37 <Ampera> nvm, keep drinking
25:40 <Halcyon> :P
25:45 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
25:49 <Halcyon> I don't drink to excess very often
26:03 <Ampera> Only when you are bored, or are being entertained.
26:09 <Halcyon> Although I will give it a rest for a week or so, let my body hate me less
26:36 <electrohead> lol
26:48 <electrohead> Halcyon: I'm sure Ampera will hate you more than the alcohol, lol
27:00 <Halcyon> True
27:15 <Ampera> I don't hate you, I simply don't like you to a degree where it's manifested itself in every discourse I have with you
28:15 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/HhezpRUgD6w?t=94
28:16 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: THE DUMBEST KAREN ALIVE
28:32 <Ampera> you need to start making videos about people other than yourself Halcyon
28:44 <Halcyon> Bahaha this stupid bitch reminds me of that last scene in Office Space where Milton is complaining about the big grains of salt on his cocktail glass.
29:20 <Ampera> TV is a parasite and a sin as grave as alcoholism
33:44 <jaymax> Welcome back to the Incubus Network.
34:09 * Ampera makes a nice delicious fried egg for jaymax 
34:42 <DHess_US> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/9e/be/1c9ebe77ace26d2ff46afaf1116afbc6.jpg
34:44 * jaymax blends up some roasted eggplant to top
36:52 <jaymax> Ampera you know my top-two staples since early 2020 has been onions and eggs right? Sometimes the world is better off to have me shelter in place.
37:45 <Ampera> onions and eggs is as classic of a combination as untreated sewage and cholera
39:19 <jaymax> I hear you there - I don't resort to egg-salad-sandwich garbage. But I've been mixing up a-many fritatta.
40:44 <Ampera> if you talk shit about egg salad I'm gonna fucking make you some
40:52 <jaymax> Basic-bitch yellow onion has been my filler vegetable - to a fault - buying them in 10lb bags at a time.
41:12 <Ampera> I can't eat vegetables, but onion is the closest I can really get
41:46 <jaymax> So you put onion in you egg sandwiches?
41:53 <Ampera> no
42:12 <jaymax> So you don't do egg-salad-sandwichs
42:14 <Ampera> no
42:40 <jaymax> Then I guess it's fine for me to cast shade at that combo
42:52 <Ampera> you can
44:42 <jaymax> I do love egg sandwiches (no onion) - probably also the only time I'd care about white bread because it's satisfyingly dainty.
46:14 <jaymax> More complicated sandwiches demand a substantive bread - like 12 grain, pumpernickel, or rye.
47:00 <Ampera> viena bred is delicious
47:11 <Ampera> I'm the sort of weirdo who will manage to eat an entire loaf in one sitting
48:19 * jaymax looks up vienna bread
48:30 <Ampera> it is good
48:31 <jaymax> oh.... you got my full attention.
48:51 <Ampera> last time I had a loaf, it was with cream cheese and smoked salmon
49:03 <jaymax> Reasonable.
54:11 <Ampera> I have a pound of liverwurst in need of bread
54:48 <jaymax> I might start a loaf tomorrow
04:31 * electrohead loafs Ampera
04:50 * Ampera toasts electrohead in the ass
05:51 <arch> should i put the optocoupler's anode BEFORE the LC filter, or AFTER? (red arrows): https://i.imgur.com/DL8Gw2P.png
06:17 <arch> assuming i end up using the LC filter
06:34 <arch> some appnotes have the anode connecting before; some have it connecting after
07:48 * arch wonders if T3sl4 is around 🤔
08:18 <T3sl4> try both
08:46 <arch> T3sl4, https://i.imgflip.com/4avshy.jpg
08:58 <arch> :D
09:06 <arch> good point. i will learn better that way
09:21 <steve30> hi
09:23 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/goioJei.png
10:13 <arch> T3sl4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2w9gX8IyCM&t=15s
10:15 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Triggering my oscilloscope just right so it UwUs correctly
11:10 <T3sl4> ye
17:19 * electrohead decompiles Ampera
27:44 <arch> i've added two jumpers and another resistor to bias the TL431. i will observe what happens when R7 is present vs when it isnt. https://imgur.com/xM58HFq.png
29:11 <electrohead> "try both" - if you don't know if you're gay or not, try both
29:14 <electrohead> lol
29:14 <arch> this should be a fun learning experience
29:19 <arch> lol
29:22 <arch> bad timing
29:25 <arch> LOL
29:33 <electrohead> lmfao.
29:43 * electrohead logs out of your computer
29:54 <Ampera> I hate arch
29:55 <Ampera> it sucks
30:09 * arch installs Hanna Montana linux on Ampera's computer
30:28 <Ampera> ew
30:29 * electrohead installs suicide linux on Ampera's other computer
30:30 <Ampera> wayland
30:41 * Ampera installs suicide BSD on electrohead 
30:46 <Ampera> 's computer
30:55 * electrohead installs justin beiber linux onto arch
31:06 <Ampera> it's just FreeBSD, but anyone sad enough to have FreeBSD on their computer should probably kill themselves
49:25 <arch> what is the purpose of this C7 capacitor? https://i.imgur.com/4dItSJs.png
50:50 <arch> i found it pretty uncommon. i don't think i've ever seen it yet in any of my disassemblies. according to this article by Christophe Basso (he's pretty well known engi), it seems to help with power reduction in idle conditions: https://www.onsemi.com/company/news-media/blog/innovation-forum/chasing-losses-in-low-standby-power-designs
50:52 <EEVBot> [Title] - Chasing Losses in Low-Standby Power Designs
51:15 <arch> but why the hell 10uF. seems pretty excessive
52:20 <arch> also it seems like it would affect the loop response
53:49 <T3sl4> what's a chocolate so good you fall to pieces? ghidradeli
53:49 <Halcyon> I'm having spicy noodles
53:49 <T3sl4> i snacked some rosemary manchego cheese
54:14 <arch> "The peak detector built around D1, C1 and Rbias ensures a full bias at high power where the voltage across C1 equals Vout. When the controller enters skip cycle mode, the peak voltage on C1 remains the same but the valley voltage drops owing to the C1Rbias time constant. The current in Rbias reduces to fully disappear when a deep standby mode is entered: you save 20 mW from (4)’s total."
54:29 <DHess_US> C10 limits bandwidth, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_compensation#Dominant-pole_compensation
54:30 <EEVBot> [Title] - Frequency compensation - Wikipedia
54:51 <arch> woohoo, i got that correct :D
55:07 <arch> you mean 10uF cap right
56:01 <DHess_US> yes
56:21 <arch> hmm..so as usual there is a tradeoff. you will save 20mW, but your bandwidth is reduced
56:32 <DHess_US> Note that it is an electrolytic capacitor, so has significant series resistance which matters also.
57:23 <DHess_US> Also check the stability graphs for the TL431. It likely requires a minimum of capacitance.
01:08 * steve30 should get some food
05:49 <T3sl4> steve30: https://imgur.com/gallery/aBVt6lU
05:49 <EEVBot> [Title] - Took a pic of my Torti in the middle of her meowing. - Album on Imgur
06:02 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
08:36 <Halcyon> Maybe I shouldn't have drank all that spicy broth
13:18 <arch> added an optional feedforward cap, and the 10uF + res in series. so many variables to test out! should be a fun fun learning experience: https://imgur.com/ps76JLU.png
14:34 <arch> https://www.ti.com/lit/an/sbva042/sbva042.pdf
14:46 <arch> woops wrong one
14:49 <arch> https://www.ti.com/lit/an/slva466a/slva466a.pdf
18:08 <arch> not sure if it'll be helpful on a topswitch, which is hysteretic, but w/e. i can remake that same thing for a UC3843 flyback later on
19:12 <Ampera> drink it all you slut
19:41 <Halcyon> I did
19:47 <Halcyon> And now I'm starting to pay the price
19:58 <Ampera> you slut
24:19 <electrohead> No, you're a towel.
25:12 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ18ZpM1yfM
25:13 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Teletubby Tidal Wave IS COMPLETE - Machine Made From Toy Po's And LaLa's
26:58 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - #AchievementUnlocked https://t.co/5jQw7beTL2
27:18 <T3sl4> no, it's for pay. he's a whore
30:01 * electrohead pays T3sl4
30:13 * T3sl4 shakes it
33:42 * electrohead pays T3sl4 more
33:56 <electrohead> how much for a home run?
34:42 <T3sl4> dunno, i haven't practiced baseball in forever
34:56 <T3sl4> that said, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi5oHdNAa4Q
34:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Old School Hollywood
37:34 <electrohead> without clicking that - system of a down?
38:10 <electrohead> yup, lol
38:12 <electrohead> \m/
40:03 <arch> ok, i do believe i am all set for the layout now: https://imgur.com/DVcaDLd.png
40:05 <T3sl4> Ampera's ten feet tall, me and Elec Tro Heaaaaaa-a-a-ad
40:17 <arch> enough variables to poke around and learn from for at least a week
40:35 Join: Tezzers ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
41:45 <electrohead> Me and hal-cy-ooo-oooo-oooo-n
42:10 <electrohead> That's a fun song to play on guitar
42:35 <T3sl4> the version of that i remember most is just the lyrics vid
42:42 <T3sl4> on the interlude it's just
42:45 <T3sl4> "!!!"
43:03 <arch> good exercise, although im kinda nervous since it's off line... o well, we die when we die. i'll just use my isolation trafo and keep one hand in my back pocket
43:04 <Halcyon> You're a dag
43:15 * T3sl4 towels off Halcyon
44:15 <arch> and i'll have to make a voltage doubler board so i can emulate it at 240VAC, since i;m in the US
44:23 <arch> i dont have a variac atm
44:35 <arch> that's another thing to buy...with bonus money. gonna wait till christmas
44:55 * electrohead films
45:46 <electrohead> SO, I purchased a new laptop today
46:40 * electrohead sends arch his variac
47:00 * arch hooks it up to electrohead's nipples
47:25 <electrohead> \o/
47:39 <arch> joke's on you, im into that shit
47:46 <electrohead> I can tell
47:46 <arch> *skeletor meme*
47:48 <electrohead> Weirdo :p
48:29 <arch> are ya making anything, ee project wise, electrohead?
48:58 <electrohead> Well I've been busy with work, and a few software projects
49:02 <electrohead> But electronics, wise?
49:17 <Halcyon> Oooh what did you get?
49:27 <arch> as in, are you making anything related to electronics
49:32 <electrohead> Uhh, well slowly fucking with my 3D printer, playing with the new klipper firmware, getting used to it
49:47 <electrohead> Slowly working on an automation project for antenna switching, for my ham rig
49:49 <arch> oo. which 3dp do you have? i have the prusa i3 mk3
50:00 <electrohead> I recently purchased the Creality Ender 6
50:03 <electrohead> <3
50:04 <electrohead> The Dell Precision 7510
50:06 <electrohead> ;o
50:10 <arch> does that have auto bed leveling?
50:16 <Halcyon> Interesting. I thought you might have gone Lenovo
50:22 <electrohead> I tossed a raspberry pi 3 at it, set up a camera, and then got the auto-level sensor and hooked that up
50:30 <electrohead> i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.7 GHz, 32 GB of RAM, and 256 GB SSD
50:35 <electrohead> Still need to finish the configuration for the auto-level sensor
50:42 <electrohead> Used, with shipping + tax, for $500 USD
50:50 <electrohead> Nah, wanted something powerful
50:51 <electrohead> Been doing a lot of software projects and such, lately
51:01 <Halcyon> I still would have gone Lenovo over Dell
51:09 <Halcyon> But yeh if you're going used, fair enough
51:26 <arch> cool
52:07 <electrohead> Currently setting up a VPS for a few friends, along with a ZNC server, and eggdrop
52:10 <electrohead> Yay
52:31 <electrohead> I'm surprised that I am able to actually do this right now, since my knee is bothering the fuck out of me >.<
52:56 <electrohead> Then again, there are lot's of powerful laptops that exist, nowadays
53:13 <electrohead> A few of the guys I work with, have 7510's and 7520's
53:18 <electrohead> So, wanted to check it out :p
57:24 <Halcyon> Yeh fair enough
57:29 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/pfzs4h/i_invent_unnecessary_things_so_i_created_a_device/
57:30 <arch> i need to set up a few RPI3 cameras. i printed this out and have all the parts already. just need to flash the image and set it up: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2230707
57:31 <EEVBot> [Title] - Pigeon: An Open source Raspberry PI Zero W Cloud Camera by geraldoramos - Thingiverse
57:33 <EEVBot> [Title] - I invent unnecessary things so I created a device to evenly inject your burrito with hot sauce. : funny
57:35 <electrohead> o.O
57:48 <electrohead> Now I dare someone to .. shove it up their ass.
58:22 <Halcyon> Wouldn't the chilli sauce be in there when the burrito was built?
58:49 * electrohead shrugs
59:58 <T3sl4> yes, the chili sauce will be shoved up\\out Halcyon's ass soon enough
00:17 <Halcyon> Yep. My tummy is growling at me
01:03 <T3sl4> hm, i want ice cream. but i don't have any
01:26 <Halcyon> I want my boss to fuck off but that's not going to happen either
01:28 <Halcyon> (Not yet anyway)
02:27 <T3sl4> go start your own investigation bureau. with hookers. and blackjack.
04:05 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Getting so many messages about the SA facial recognition quarantine app. Yes it's bullshit, yes they will abuse it,… https://t.co/Fil21KJYLb
05:38 <electrohead> lol
07:21 <T3sl4> you know. like J Edgar Hoover did
07:36 <electrohead> oh that's pretty cool
07:53 <electrohead> yeah I want to eventually use the rasp.pi3 for a huge cluster of cameras
09:19 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - And yes they should trust people to home quarantine instead of even thinking about trying this dystopian bullshit.… https://t.co/NYDaMNfmXU
13:16 <Halcyon> Hah
16:12 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/funnyvideos/comments/pfzihx/man_catches_wife_cheating/
16:16 <EEVBot> [Title] - Man catches wife cheating..... : funnyvideos
16:17 <electrohead> Now this is fucking great
18:06 <Halcyon> ROFL "Where you hiding him?"
19:13 <electrohead> I love how the dude hangs out for a while on the railing
20:11 <Halcyon> Hahahah spiderman
20:47 <Halcyon> Oh man, that's gold
21:00 <Halcyon> What a lying bitch
27:31 <electrohead> Alright man, I'm heading to bed
27:37 <electrohead> I shall be talking to you
27:40 <electrohead> G'night o/
27:50 * electrohead hugs Halcyon and T3sl4's face
27:59 <Halcyon> Aw you suck
28:03 * T3sl4 gives electrohead his towel back
42:27 * flyback bites arch again
44:21 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Cb9x70gYQ
44:22 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Amtrak Snow-mo Collision
44:27 <Halcyon> What did people think was going to happen?
45:26 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I need a better USB spectrometer. My Spectra-1 has the world's shittiest software that doesn't work any more.
47:21 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TatC6B--SP8
47:23 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Armed Cyclist tackled by Pedestrians - Cardiff
47:27 <Halcyon> This is also satisfying to watch
47:34 <Halcyon> I hope it fucking hurt
50:17 <Erhard> So what about that distopian crap in AU? Is it going to happen?
50:33 <Erhard> I saw an article in The Atlantic about it
50:36 <Halcyon> No idea, I haven't really been following
51:07 <Erhard> LIke everybody has to install an app, and if they get an alert they have to take a picture of themself where they are supposed to be or get in trouble
51:26 <Halcyon> It'll never be enforced
51:51 <Halcyon> Simply because not everyone has smartphones compatible with the software or smartphones at all.
52:40 <steve30> Halcyon, have you arrested Dave yet?
52:44 <Halcyon> For?
52:45 <Erhard> The idea of the gov forcing you to install an app is beyond reproach
53:05 <Halcyon> Erhard, I agree. But the government here isn't forcing anyone to install anything.
53:18 <Erhard> Sorry, I meant is nor beyond reproach.
53:19 <Halcyon> Even the current check-in app isn't mandatory. You can use a website or a manual register at the store.
53:22 <Erhard> It's absurd!
53:43 <Erhard> Hmm. I wonder if it was just one of those press blowing things up issues.
53:49 <Halcyon> Typically is
54:26 <Halcyon> I've stopped caring what the media reports to be honest. They can't even get the rules and restrictions right.
54:55 <Erhard> Here it is: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/pandemic-australia-still-liberal-democracy/619940/
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55:38 <steve30> Halcyon, for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBN2zNpO-lM
55:39 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: I'm getting ARRESTED for importing ILLEGAL components!
56:01 <Halcyon> Oh yeh I saw that Steve :P Hahah
56:30 <steve30> and with this comment, you should /definitely/ go and arrest him (on video)
56:30 <steve30> https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/1433973996622516229
57:21 <Halcyon> Erhard, I don't disagree with the restrictions. However I will say this: The way they were implemented was too broad. They should have gone hard and fast in the areas with escalating cases and left the areas with little to no cases more open.
57:38 <Halcyon> This whole "tarnishing everyone with the same brush" was the wrong approach
57:54 <Erhard> No doubt.
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58:17 <Halcyon> Secondly, those who have had double-doses of the vaccine should be exempt from most restrictions
58:42 <Erhard> Are they now?
58:45 <Halcyon> Nope
59:23 <Halcyon> I'm exempt because of my work, but for everyone else, life must really suck.
59:30 <Ampera> honestly I've sort of given up caring about Australia
59:37 <Halcyon> Particularly for those who have done the right thing, got their doses and are being safe.
59:42 <Ampera> I've heard all sorts of shit of cops and troops beating the shit out of people and breaking down doors
59:42 <Erhard> Sadly, as we have found out here in the US, the vaccine is no panacea to prevent the spread of delta. It keeps you form getting anywhere near as sick, but it still spreads like wildfire.
59:48 <Halcyon> Why should they be punished because of other people's stupidity
59:57 <Ampera> even as far as the government putting down a kennel full of dogs to prevent them from being adopted
00:07 <Ampera> but I don't care to see if it's actually true
00:22 <Ampera> there's enough disparate crap happening in my back yard to care about someone else's
00:27 <Ampera> it's only amusing when I get a rise out of Halcyon
00:29 <Halcyon> Ampera, I don't know about any of that, but as a nation we've come out pretty well comparitively speaking
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01:18 <Halcyon> We've done the right thing (eventually) albeit it was implemented too slowly initially
01:25 <Ampera> Of course, but you are in a position of authority, with a disposition against people's freedom and rights, since it makes your job harder
01:29 <Ampera> so I don't really believe you
02:05 <Halcyon> No but I have friends and family impacted by these restrictions and they are pretty much saying the same thing
02:20 <Ampera> For all I know, Australia is as bad as China, or as good as Norway.
02:23 <Halcyon> We can't just close our eyes and ears and pretend it will all be OK by doing nothing
02:41 <Halcyon> I don't think you can compare us even remotely close to China
02:48 <Ampera> You can compare any country to china.
02:57 <Halcyon> North Korea?
03:05 <Ampera> but you can quite easily say that, because, as I said, you are in a position where you are professionally bound to believe in a cause you are fighting for
03:17 <Ampera> which can considerably blind you to actual problems that people not in your position may be facing
03:21 <Halcyon> I'm not professionally bound to believe anything
03:28 <Halcyon> My job doesn't change my opinion of things
03:33 <Ampera> We have the exact same issue here, where cops don't give a shit about people, to the point of seeing most people as actual filth and trash
03:53 <Ampera> You don't get to be a cop by thinking the way the government does things is stupid, is what i'm saying.
03:59 <Halcyon> Sure, but we've established that our police and your police are miles apart. Here, they are respected.
04:13 <Halcyon> But of course like anything, it's the loud minority that get the more airtime.
04:20 <Ampera> Again, you are not in a position unbiased enough to make an accurate assessment of that.
04:40 <Halcyon> I actually disagree. I think I'm in a great position to see what happens behind closed doors.
04:47 <Halcyon> I can set my biases aside.
04:47 <Ampera> Our police are particularly diverse, far more than yours.
04:57 <Halcyon> Diverse in what way?
05:00 <Ampera> Every department is run different, with corruption better and worse all over the place.
05:21 <Halcyon> Yes because you have so many different departments and organisations. They opeate in silos.
05:28 <Halcyon> There is no consistancy.
05:31 <Ampera> However, considering the powers that your police have, and your insistence on their benefits to society, I do not believe you when you say you are not as bad as China
05:52 <Ampera> I do not believe anyone, since it's something I'd have to conduct detailed, weighted research into
06:13 <Erhard> Ampera: All police, or specifically AU?
06:16 <Ampera> Decentralized authority is authority that cannot organize as easily to abuse a populous
06:19 <Ampera> Erhard, context?
06:22 <Halcyon> Well, it's not just my opinion. Australia tops the list of the most livable and least restrictive countries out there... even more than the US when it comes to things like free speech and government interferrence.
06:32 <Ampera> who drew up the list :P
06:37 <Erhard> 23:05 < Ampera> I do not believe anyone, since it's something I'd have to conduct detailed, weighted research into
06:45 <Ampera> Anyone can make a list and define categories they believe qualifies a country for something.
06:53 <Halcyon> Many studies around the world, there are several "livability indexes" which look at these sorts of things.
06:58 <Ampera> China is one of the least dangerous countries in the world in terms of common street crime and "livability"
07:14 <Ampera> However you give up considerable avenues of freedom and liberty that allows one to live a life they wish to live
07:27 <Halcyon> I wouldn't say that at all
07:29 <Ampera> The point being, livability is purely subjective
07:45 <Halcyon> We have the freedom to do just about anything we want. I can't think of a single thing that I can't do that I'd want to be able to.
07:52 <Ampera> in that people will have personal beliefs as to the risks, benefits, and liberties a society allows.
08:06 <Ampera> Of course, but there are also people in China who would argue the exact same point]
08:17 <Ampera> right down to stating that the restrictions they do have are of little or no consequence to them
08:20 <Halcyon> Yes, perhaps so. But I don't live in China.
08:26 <Ampera> I never said you did
08:30 <Halcyon> I also have access to unbiased sources of media from around the world.
08:35 <Ampera> I'm using an analogy to present a point
08:42 <Ampera> Unbiased sources of media do not exist.
08:46 <Ampera> Every single human on this planet has a bias.
08:46 <Halcyon> I disagree
09:12 <Halcyon> They might have bias, but that bias doesn't need to have an impact,.
09:13 <Ampera> Unbiased media is as oxymoronic as a perfect government
09:30 <Ampera> The impact of bias is not something an individual can establish, because again, individuals have biases.
09:52 <Halcyon> Anyone can limit the impact of bias in their thought process
09:56 <Halcyon> Some better than others
10:07 <Halcyon> I have to do it as part of my job
10:18 <Halcyon> We don't just blindly enforce laws because they are written
10:26 <Ampera> There are methods that exist to limit bias, but bias cannot be eliminated, and most people in a position of power and authority, especially with the capability to spread ideas, will not simply self-regulate to eliminate biases.
10:37 <Ampera> In the same way governments do not magically self-regulate to eliminate all biases
10:50 <Halcyon> Again, I disagree.
10:51 <Erhard> Pretty much every source is biased in some way. YOu just can't get all of it out.
10:52 <Ampera> If they did, it wouldn't matter who you voted for
11:30 <Ampera> Bias isn't just about having some opinion where it shouldn't be, it encompasses anything and everything people do, right down to who is in the position to be writing an article, and who wants to publish it
11:34 <Halcyon> Erhard, that's why it's important to see multiple sources, and stick with facts as opposed to opinions.
11:51 <Ampera> even data, collected with no human interaction, is biased, as in it will favor some conditions over others
11:55 <Halcyon> Facts are facts, even if you disagree with them
11:55 <Ampera> just through the nature of measurement
11:57 <Erhard> Definitely mutiple sources. The problem is that most sources insert opinions.
12:08 <Halcyon> Opinions can be filtered out easily enough
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12:16 <Ampera> Facts do not exist, simply the breadth of an agreement which is stated as fact.
12:17 <Erhard> That is true, but the source doesn't know the facts, or makes lies of omission, etc.
12:29 <Halcyon> Oh of course
12:37 <Ampera> Opinions cannot be filtered out. They are a part of every step of the process in collecting and presenting data
12:46 <Ampera> Even if it's down to where a camera was placed
13:00 <Halcyon> Going back to my example earlier of the media getting our restrictions and rules wrong all the time. I just go to the source, which is the legislation itself. That's the source of truth. Nothing else.
13:06 <Erhard> It is good to TRY to be unbiased, but some bias always worms its way in.
13:14 <Ampera> Legislation can be interpreted, or even ignored
13:18 <Ampera> It's been done time and time again
13:23 <Halcyon> Yes it can in some cases
13:31 <Halcyon> But in other cases, there is only 1 interpretation
13:52 <Ampera> Untrue, even the simplest, more nail on the head laws will have more than one interpretation
14:04 <Halcyon> Yes the right one, and then all the wrong ones
14:10 <Ampera> it's the same logical error which produces the notion that one can't always write more on a topic
14:26 <Ampera> Right and wrong are subjective constructs, just as much as laws or rules are.
14:34 <Halcyon> Legislation, particularly surrounding COVID restrictions here are pretty simple and clear to understand, if you take the time to read them.
14:42 <Halcyon> Most people don't care about reading 50 pages of stuff
14:48 <Ampera> Not only that, but knowingly wrong interpretations are also a thing.
15:22 <Halcyon> Well I don't know how many different ways you can interpret "You must wear a mask when you leave your home" there is
15:25 <Ampera> It's almost like politicians knowingly overwrite and overcomplicate laws to the point that citizens are not able to know their own limitations without significant effort
15:31 <Halcyon> When "wear" and "mask" as specifically defined as well
15:38 <Ampera> Is your lawn your home?
15:42 <Ampera> How big can a home be?
15:45 <Ampera> What constitutes a home?
15:52 <Ampera> If I am staying with a friend, is that my home?
15:56 <Ampera> If I'm in a hotel, is that my home?
15:56 <Halcyon> Your primary residence
16:00 <Halcyon> Yes
16:01 <Halcyon> Yes
16:05 <Ampera> What if I have no primary residence, or am homeless
16:10 <Halcyon> Then you are exempt
16:16 <Halcyon> That is defined too
16:31 <Ampera> the point being, no matter how fine you make a rule, I can come up with an edge case that can fork it
16:36 <Erhard> What if my wife kicked me out?
16:40 <Halcyon> Yes but you'd be wrong :P
16:40 <Ampera> It's simply how law is
16:52 <Ampera> My edge case would be wrong?
17:00 <Ampera> so the notion of being homeless is incorrect?
17:06 <Halcyon> You can't make that assumption Ampera, especially since you haven't even read the legislation
17:14 <Ampera> I have made no assumptions.
17:15 <Halcyon> How can you say it's ambiguous when you don't even know yourself?
17:17 <Ampera> I have provided edge cases.
17:25 <Halcyon> Yes. which are covered
17:29 <Halcyon> See, simples :P
17:38 <Ampera> Because I am claiming it is a fundamental construct of law and rules that an edge case can always be found
18:02 <Ampera> In this branch of conversation, I have made no objection or statements towards your COVID restrictions.
18:09 <Ampera> Nor have I said they are, relatively, vague or misleading
18:23 <Halcyon> Well I disagree and I have studied law and worked in the field for quite a long time.
18:34 <Halcyon> You are allowed to think that if you wish however
18:40 <Ampera> In fact, I have not even claimed, in this conversation, Australia is particularly authoritarian, or is not
19:10 <Ampera> You can, but again, your profession places you in a position of that belief being a convenience.
19:19 <Halcyon> I was just providing examples of where the law IS clear and there is no other interpretation of it that could be correct.
19:30 <Halcyon> Same as exceeding the speed limit, there is a black and white boundary.
19:35 <Ampera> If such a law could be perfectly interpreted, juries would not be necessary.
19:58 <Halcyon> I didn't say ALL law, I said many laws.
20:23 <Halcyon> There are of course some which do need intrepretation and are open to arguments. That's the whole point of the court system.
20:57 <Halcyon> Anyway
21:03 <Halcyon> I think I'll make muffins this afternoon
21:08 <Ampera> All laws can be interpreted, even if that interpretation is wrong. One could easily say, yeah over the limit, but it was only a few over, (or a few over the buffer) so we'll let it slide
21:32 <Ampera> The notion of a valid interpretation is constructed
21:34 <Halcyon> Yes, but in that example, it's not the interpreation of the law that's the issue, it comes down to discretion and risk
21:49 <Ampera> a reasonable person could easily say that a few over the limit is not a proper violation of an otherwise clear law, and should not result in a conviction
22:02 <Halcyon> Well it either is a violation or it's not.
22:09 <Halcyon> You can't have feet in both camps.
22:20 <Halcyon> The penalty that comes after it is open for discussion.
22:21 <Ampera> A good example of this is our second amendment, which is quite plainly written, yet insanely debated.\
22:59 <Ampera> Of course you can. You can say the cop clocked 84kph in an 80kph zone, but the gun has an error greater than 4kph
23:03 <Ampera> so you do not know if there was a violation
23:18 <Ampera> You can argue that it was too close to call, or you can argue if the gun says it, you did it.
24:15 <Ampera> My backup script is still working fine
24:28 <Ampera> I'm currently using RSA, but I'm not confident in OpenSSL's implementation of RSA, or RSA in general
24:39 <Ampera> it probably doesn't matter, since this encryption is mostly a safeguard in case someone breaks into our S3 bucket
24:56 <Ampera> I want to try and use EC crypto, but there is no real way to encrypt a randomly generated symmetric key
25:34 <Ampera> there is DH exchange, but the point is that the key to decrypt is not stored on the server, and if you must have a public/private combo to generate a shared DH secret, that defeats the point
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26:44 <Ampera> I could make the RSA key obscenely long, since I am not encrypting a lot of data, something like 16364 bit
26:59 <Ampera> but that doesn't help much if rsautil is flawed
27:35 <Ampera> What I'd love is a modern/secure asymmetric cipher that has the qualities and performance of a symmetric cipher
27:42 <Ampera> but I suppose, doesn't everyone
35:33 <Halcyon> Ampera: The radar shouldn't have error if they are complying with the rules
35:52 <Halcyon> Assuming that your police test and calibrate before each shift?
36:19 <Halcyon> They also do self-tests. I have never in my years seen someone successfully argue that the radar or lidar was incorrect
36:46 <Ampera> All radar guns have a margin of error to the best of my knowledge
36:57 <Ampera> How large or small it is I do not know
43:09 <Halcyon> Yeh they do, that's taken into account as part of the reading
43:16 <Halcyon> The only thing that isn't is cosine error
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44:21 <Halcyon> Besides, if you get booked for 3 km/hr over the limit, the officer is obviously having a really really bad day or you failed the attitude test
44:39 <Halcyon> I need to go to the bathroom, brb
44:47 <Ampera> ah yes, the part where the cop is the master of if to fuck you
54:49 <Halcyon> Well, don't do the wrong thing?
54:54 <Halcyon> And don't act like a jerk?
55:18 <Halcyon> If someone started acting like a Karen to me, I'd ticket them too.
55:35 <Ampera> Don't act like a jerk, and cops won't fuck with you?
55:43 <Ampera> Should I make sure I don't act black too?
55:47 <Halcyon> Don't act like a jerk and you won't come under notice
56:00 <Halcyon> Well in America, yeh probably. Here, no one gives a shit what colour your skin is
56:13 <Ampera> Yes, you have deleted racism, congratulations.
56:16 <Ampera> We all believe you
56:34 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7TxSDRqdC4
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56:38 <Halcyon> I once got accused of picking on an Asian woman because simply because she was Asian.
56:42 <Ampera> this group is good though
56:46 <Halcyon> I said no, it was your terrible manner of driving.
56:54 <Ampera> well you don't consider asians as intelligent, so that lines up
57:07 <Halcyon> I never said that, please don't put words in my mouth
57:17 <Ampera> I'm not, and I've pulled logs on you before
57:31 <Halcyon> Yes, and you still didn't prove the point you thought you were
57:39 <Ampera> I did, you just didn't want to admit it.
57:44 <Halcyon> I mean you could repeat the same mistake again and see how far it gets you?
58:05 <Halcyon> Isn't there a saying? Repeating the same mistakes is a sign of insanity or something?
58:06 <Ampera> I was as mistaken as you are racist.
58:19 <Ampera> Next thing you know you'll be saying einstein said that.
58:26 <Halcyon> I have no idea who said that
58:30 <Halcyon> Otherwise I would have said
00:14 <Halcyon> I think I ate too much kangaroo over the last few days.
00:22 <Halcyon> My gasses stink
00:32 <Ampera> Above background you mean
00:41 <Halcyon> Yes
00:45 <Halcyon> Even the Dyson is responding
01:05 <Ampera> I should really start learning another language
01:19 <Halcyon> German? Seeing as you have family ties there
01:21 <Ampera> I've had a lot of ideas of how to go about it, but have always been too lazy to start it
01:26 <Ampera> Either German or Russian
01:39 <Halcyon> Or Chinese, they'll take over the world eventually :P
01:57 <steve30> I bought an LGB Alliance t-shirt.
02:37 <Halcyon> Is it colourful Steve>
02:38 <Halcyon> ?
02:44 <steve30> no, just black
02:53 <Halcyon> :(
02:58 <Halcyon> That's racist
03:25 <Ampera> I recall it's been said that, during the fall of the third german empire, there was graffiti painted in the Berlin subways which stated, to some effect, say alive, learn russian
03:38 <Ampera> I approve of that T-Shirt steve30
03:48 <steve30> yay
04:07 <Halcyon> Eh I'm not too afraid of Russia. They are smart enough to just provoke enough but not crazy enough to actually carry out anything...
04:20 <Halcyon> Kim Jong Fatso IS crazy enough, but doesn't have the means.
04:25 <Ampera> If you were a German in the 40's and in Berlin you better be fucking scared
04:33 <Halcyon> Oh yeh, back then, sure.
04:34 <Halcyon> I mean today
04:41 <Ampera> Russia is cute
04:48 <Ampera> they're just an oligarch's playground
04:58 <T3sl4> Halcyon and steve30 be like https://i.imgur.com/kz2X5x0.png
05:08 <Ampera> They have a rich and vibrant central culture, along with a diverse population, and tons of natural resources
05:13 <Halcyon> Awwww
05:14 <Halcyon> Cute
05:22 <Ampera> it's just a shame every single government they ever had were hot trash
05:36 <Halcyon> Yeh agreed Ampera
05:53 <steve30> aww
06:17 <Ampera> In terms of language, I do quite like Russian
06:23 <Ampera> in sound, look, and grammar
07:14 <Ampera> German is weird for me. I kinda don't want to learn it because it was something I was always harassed with as a kid
07:30 <Ampera> but I have a good bit of family (and a citizenship) that makes it the most practical and significant language for me to learn
07:33 <Halcyon> Yeh I like the Euro languages. Also Japanese, I think that's quite neat. I used to know a bit of Japanese from school, but I've forgotten most of it now.
07:40 <Ampera> I'd also love to learn an insular celtic language at one point in my life
07:48 <Ampera> likely Welsh
08:01 <Ampera> Welsh is a surprisingly beautiful singing language
08:19 <Ampera> Learning Japanese is an old meme
08:41 <Halcyon> Well it was either Japanese or Italian... meh
08:43 <Ampera> Certainly no shortage of culture, but it wouldn't be easy nor the most practical
08:52 <Ampera> Japanese makes sense, you're right there
08:54 <Ampera> but Italian?
09:01 <Halcyon> Yeh Italian seems boring to me
09:08 <Halcyon> Same with Spanish
09:17 <Ampera> Spanish is just Italian with more Arabic
09:44 <Ampera> French is Italian that got shit on by the celts
10:42 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/a7hKzA_0OXQ?t=21
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10:45 <Halcyon> Bahahah what a moron
11:00 <Ampera> Second language classes here are usually only French or Spanish
11:06 <Ampera> or ASL
11:55 <Ampera> of course for you, ASL is old/doesn't get any/bogan
14:23 <Halcyon> Says the guy who has never had sex :P
14:33 <Ampera> that you know of
14:44 <Halcyon> So you've been lying to me this whole time?
14:53 <Ampera> I like to think of it as putting on a persona
15:06 <Ampera> so that one day i can really freak people out by acting like the person I actually am
15:08 <Ampera> or even another persona
15:24 <Halcyon> Nah, you're too weird to be just making this up
15:30 <Halcyon> I know you are 100% genuine
16:20 <Ampera> Years of acting and drama classes and stage performances.
16:46 <Ampera> Those were fun times, I miss them
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25:54 <Halcyon> Ampera in tights? Not sure how I feel about that :P
29:48 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94o-D2_k5ew
29:50 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Rowan Atkinson Live - Pink tights and plenty of props - Jeremy Irons couldn't make it
30:00 <Halcyon> Reminds me of this sketch. Rowan Atkinson is such a great actor
34:34 <Ampera> Halcyon, no tights for those, but I did used to do ballet
34:41 <Ampera> was in a local rendition of the nutcracker a couple times too
44:30 <steve30> Halcyon, did you see my XR video?
44:42 * T3sl4 serves Halcyon from Chekov's mug
44:45 <Halcyon> I did not
45:02 <Halcyon> :P Thanks T3sl4
46:04 <steve30> https://odysee.com/@steve30:3/act_now_barclays_on_trial:2
46:04 <EEVBot> [Title] - Act Now! Barclays on Trial.
46:07 <steve30> It came out quite well
46:23 <steve30> I did it in 25fps rather than 50 for a change
48:17 <Halcyon> So what's the go with Barclays?
48:45 <steve30> apparently they are one of the biggest funders of fossil fuel companies
49:02 <Halcyon> OK ?
50:01 <Halcyon> So I'm assuming these people don't approve of internal combustion engines etc... ?
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50:45 <steve30> probably not
53:54 <Halcyon> Actually knowing those types, they probably jumped right back in their cars to drive home
54:10 <Halcyon> But nice video :)
56:55 <steve30> I quite enjoyed their small performance. I thought it was a good way of getting their message out without causing distruption (as XR types usually do)
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04:28 <Halcyon> Although I think you might call it Handy Andy over there
19:05 <hsn> Halcyon: why the love to violence
19:24 <Halcyon> Because they are shitbags and the courts won't do anything to punish them
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27:05 <Halcyon> That's actually quite a neat idea. Shops without checkouts. Do everything by RFID
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40:47 <steve30> I'm going to the Rotherham Show later. I wanted to go yesterday as well, but i was too tired
40:57 <Halcyon> What do they have there?
42:04 <steve30> today there's the vintage vehicle rally and a brass band
42:10 <Halcyon> Ah nice
42:23 <steve30> there was a dance thing on yesterday which i'd have liked to see
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37:07 <steve30> hi
39:21 <Kuschelpony> quick material question: have you experience if a form 3d printed in TPU still holds some shape when heated to just above 100°C ? Im considering printing a negative mold for to mold my coil into wax and let moisture evaporate
39:53 <Halcyon> I have no idea but I can ask someone I know who is into 3D printing
42:50 <Kuschelpony> oh thanks
43:22 <Halcyon> 100 degree is a lot for wax though?
43:33 <Kuschelpony> it does not need to be an expert in 3d printing just someone who can say if that material is more like it stays firm until melting or it gets dramatically softened
44:20 <K> hello corks
44:59 <Kuschelpony> too much different informations and most only state a melting point without explaining the behaviour below
46:12 <Kuschelpony> i consider printing a negative for a hv coil wax cast
47:17 <Kuschelpony> or if i need to go the more expensive way to cast a silicone mold
48:28 <Halcyon> Could you not just test a piece?
49:50 <T3sl4> Kuschelpony: what's the TPU datasheet say?
50:03 <Kuschelpony> i can do, but before i buy materials, make the work and perhaps a lot of mess, i wanted to ask if anyone already has experience
50:32 <Kuschelpony> im one of these people who try to not repeat mistakes and accidents that dont need to be repeated :)
54:44 <Halcyon> Hello vinyl
56:04 <steve30> i need to go and do grandma's garden later
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56:29 <steve30> apparently youtube also sometiems uses 'AV1' codec which i'd not heard of before and am now having to install
58:52 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
59:52 <K> hurls
00:05 <steve30> hehe
00:45 <Halcyon> Can you come and do my garden? I need a garden bed dug
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05:43 <steve30> Will there be hot guys to help?
05:47 <Halcyon> Just me
06:21 <steve30> btw, i uploaded saturday's gay pride video
06:21 <steve30> https://odysee.com/@steve30:3/gay_pride_manchester_2021:5
06:23 <EEVBot> [Title] - Gay Pride in Manchester 2021: Protest, Marches, and Social Distancing
06:41 <Halcyon> Heheheh Canal St
06:42 <Halcyon> :P
07:23 <Halcyon> I still don't get why you have to protest. Just have fun
07:33 <Halcyon> That's what the Mardi Gras is
08:00 <Nothing\> huh, just figured out in windows 10 you can right click any shortcut and add any keyboard shortcut to run it
08:42 <Nothing\> that's funny cuz i remember when i was looking for software to make a macro, a lot of them advertised that very feature as though windows couldn't do that
09:02 <steve30> The protest march was because 'Manchester Pride Ltd' like to capitalise on people's sexuality. The march was organised by some individuals for free as a way of sticking it to Manchester Pride, who otherwise would have organised something which required people to apply for a place and pay a fee.
09:28 <Halcyon> Yeh that's a bit bullshit
14:35 <steve30> There, I've cancelled my old hosting package after 13 years, now that everything is moved to the new host.
22:16 <Halcyon> \o/.
22:17 <Halcyon> YAY
23:22 <Halcyon> You've been able to add shortcut keys to applications since Windows 95/98
25:08 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkaHk4keoEw
25:09 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Octopus Box by Hartley Electromotives Limited 1958
25:14 <Halcyon> I forgot about John Ward's channel
36:04 <DHess_US> How do you do that? I don't see anything.
37:05 <Halcyon> Oh gee, testing my memory here....
37:20 <Halcyon> Right click, properties, there should be a shortcut key field there somewhere
37:39 <steve30> I tried to use the VP9 codec yesterday. It went at 2fps.
37:50 <Halcyon> https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/image79.png?trim=1,1&bg-color=000&pad=1,1
37:51 <Halcyon> Here
38:41 <DHess_US> Ah, shortcut key field
40:45 <steve30> BTW, the extinction rebellion drama performance was good yesterday
41:17 <Halcyon> I wish I had time to galavant around the town Steve :P
43:36 <steve30> Don't you get to do that as a policeman?
43:54 <Halcyon> You know I don't work in uniform right Steve? :P
43:59 <Halcyon> Well... rarely.
44:18 <Halcyon> I haven't for about 7 years
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50:05 <Halcyon> What's doing on there?
50:21 <steve30> i think he got banned last night for some reason
50:32 <Halcyon> By?
50:54 <steve30> either T3sl4 or electrohead, i wasn't really paying attention
51:07 <Halcyon> Guys? Someone want to fill me in?
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59:21 <Halcyon> This quiche is yummy
59:21 <DHess_US> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7YGl6cXMAEZqbu?format=jpg&name=medium
59:46 <K> wth is going on with Lord_of_nothing
59:56 <Halcyon> No idea. I'll find out soon enough
00:04 <Nothing\> DHess_US, yeah it's useful as hell, if you can keep track of em all
00:16 <Nothing\> i can scarcely keep track of the regular windows keyboard shortcuts
00:42 <Nothing\> Halcyon, that's weird, i had no idea
00:47 <DHess_US> I make a quicklaunch area on my taskbar
01:10 <Nothing\> just pin programs to it?
01:18 <DHess_US> not exactly
01:21 <DHess_US> sec
01:37 <Nothing\> aye
03:28 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlmarLZpsyQ
03:29 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Entitled millennial snowflake gets owned by hotel owner
03:32 <Halcyon> Bahahaah I love this guy
04:26 <DHess_US> lower left corner to right of search, https://i.ibb.co/CmsSk9c/Untitled-1.png
05:14 <steve30> eww, windows 10
06:06 <DHess_US> some of us have to get work done
06:36 <DHess_US> That is on my broken test system. Can't activate windows on it.
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17:24 <Nothing\> DHess_US, oh, huh
17:30 <Nothing\> wonder why my windows doesn't have that
17:49 <Nothing\> that'd be so useful
18:02 <DHess_US> right click taskbar, toolbars, new toolbar
18:16 <DHess_US> Then stick shortcuts into it, including ones that you make
18:17 <Nothing\> ahhhh toolbars
18:23 <Halcyon> Hey Kuschelpony
18:23 <Nothing\> i was looking in the wrong place
18:32 <Kuschelpony> Hello Hello
18:38 <Halcyon> How are you?
18:39 <DHess_US> The toolbar folder is stored on a drive, so you can copy it between systems.
18:40 <Kuschelpony> Hope you have a nice day
18:48 <Halcyon> It's been OK
19:07 <Kuschelpony> oh just the usual kind of missing to have a life, but otherwise ok
19:07 <DHess_US> Like the top left shortcut there is the show desktop shortcut from XP.
19:39 <DHess_US> which is ... %windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{3080F90D-D7AD-11D9-BD98-0000947B0257}
19:45 <Nothing\> nice
20:02 <Nothing\> that's a great place to put a shortcut for my datasheets folder
20:07 <DHess_US> Can't use the hotspot reveal desktop on my system because I have multiple monitors.
20:14 <Nothing\> somehow it turned into my general pdfs folder
20:28 <Nothing\> and datasheets are just 90% of the content
20:35 <Nothing\> and app notes
20:46 <steve30> I'm just playing with different formats/resolutions to upload to youtube
20:53 <DHess_US> Some things I stick in the shortcuts on my task bar, others are shortcuts on my desktop, some are just in folders. /shrug
20:59 <steve30> Currently upscaling 1080p to 1440p to see how that does.
21:08 <DHess_US> And some things I access through the star menu
22:45 <Kuschelpony> im trying to find a solution how to import an login key file from an outdated version of Firefox into the recent version from Firefox that has a new file format
22:54 <Kuschelpony> need to recover all the stored passwords
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23:48 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1433794531556827138
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29:28 * ibiza is here
29:37 <Halcyon> Herro
29:38 * steve30 is also here
29:46 <ibiza> [[[[[[[[[[ibiza]]]]]]]]]]]]]
30:20 * ibiza mixes poo and wee together
30:38 <Halcyon> Is that your fetish ibiza?
31:01 <ibiza> Yes Halcyon
31:08 <Halcyon> Each to their own
31:10 <ibiza> used to be a lemon tea party !
31:12 <steve30> eww
31:17 <ibiza> Hope you been well mate!
31:23 <Halcyon> Oh yeh, can't complain
31:27 <Halcyon> Yourself?
32:05 <ibiza> yeh not bad, insane with this melbourne lockdown, but i am ok otherwise, just over it
32:15 <Halcyon> Ah yeh of course
32:17 <ibiza> and yes i can do things to keep myself busy, but would just like to go back to normal
32:29 <ibiza> but again could always be worse i guess
32:29 <Halcyon> I just want to go sit in a restaurant with mates
32:45 <Halcyon> I've been fully vaccinated since April so it's a bit unfair
33:13 <ibiza> Wish the gov just sorted everything out earlier
33:17 <ibiza> feels like we are always behind
33:20 <Halcyon> That's it. It can always be worse. We're looking at opening back up again in the next weeks to months
33:32 <ibiza> esp being an island, we got to 0, and than they let it back in the country again, the control should of been greater
34:32 <Halcyon> Kuschelpony, my mate said that is has a glassing temp of 80-90 degrees so it will start to get soft there
34:35 <Halcyon> Ah well, shit happens
34:43 <Kuschelpony> ok, thanks
34:48 <Halcyon> They are really turning the screws on getting these vaccines into arms which is great
34:57 <Halcyon> I think we hit 70% first shot this morning
34:58 <steve30> We have a 10th of the covid deaths that we had in february
35:10 <Kuschelpony> so i expect i could use it for molding, but have to bake the moisture out of the coil separately before the molding
35:50 <Halcyon> What else can you do though? You can't predict virus behaviour either, so you want to nip it in the bud as quickly as you can
36:04 <Halcyon> Otherwise you end up with all these varients and each is worse than the one before
36:30 <K> i wont see this ending anytime soon
36:51 <K> unless it mutates into something that spreads 1000x faster and is relatively harmless
37:26 <K> but still enough to cause imunity for time it takes for the next variant to propagate globaly
37:26 <Halcyon> That's it
37:53 <Halcyon> I think we're at the tipping point now. The restrictions have just about done their job. The rest is up to the vaccines
37:56 <K> they should make vaccine viral!
38:17 <K> imagine the outrcry
38:22 <Halcyon> I'm sure if some idiot on TikTok promoted it, everyone would get it
38:35 <Halcyon> Yeh, it looks like it might work
38:45 <K> well, it is the most effictive and efficient delivery method, it seems
38:56 <Halcyon> Well here they are now restricting your work if you are unvaccinated and don't have a proper medical reason.
39:11 <Halcyon> You can't teach, you can't work in a hospital, you can do policing duties
39:21 <K> all of which seems reasonable
39:29 <Halcyon> I agree
40:10 <Kuschelpony> btw: i do have a temperature controlled hotplate
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57:38 <steve30> i lost the screw to mount my the camera to the gimbal
58:54 <K> stop screwin around!
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13:25 <Halcyon> Oh no Steve
18:55 <steve30> youtube takes its time to process "4K" stuff
18:57 <K> that wierd 1/4-20 UNC screw
19:03 <K> fuck it with a cactus
50:14 <hsn> u dont use cactus for such things please
52:36 <Ampera> Good morning
52:40 <Halcyon> Hello Ampera
52:41 <Ampera> You are all failures.
52:46 <Ampera> hi Halcyon how are you
52:51 <Halcyon> Good morning to you too
52:54 <Halcyon> I'm OK
53:25 <Ampera> last day of work
53:30 <Ampera> then a 4 day weekend
53:33 <K> what should be done with the cactus, hsn?
53:41 <Halcyon> BBQ it K
54:09 <hsn> K, https://images.app.goo.gl/gDyskUv6UQdivheJ8
54:18 <hsn> kiss it
54:26 <Halcyon> Silly Camel
54:26 <Ampera> looks like NYC got a drink last night
54:37 <Halcyon> Bit moist Ampera?
54:38 <Ampera> hurricane ida shit on it
54:43 <hsn> how u Halcyon
54:50 <Halcyon> Good thanks hsn, how are you mate?
54:58 <K> title for photo - "whats wrong with you dog?"
55:44 <hsn> i didnt forget that i didnt send those date cookies and palm tree water ... im just to broke since begining of 2021 ..
56:03 <hsn> some more time .. little embarased :D
56:18 <Halcyon> I'd completely forgotten about it
56:28 <Halcyon> Don't be :) It's completely OK
56:39 <Ampera> https://www.news10.com/news/ny-news/new-york-under-1st-ever-flash-flood-emergency-water-gushes-into-subway/
56:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - New York under 1st-ever flash flood emergency, water gushes into subway
56:55 <hsn> didnt get salary since june and have like 100$ in my bank :D
59:09 <Halcyon> I should send you something
59:34 * Ampera deploys a security
00:34 <hsn> nah
01:00 <hsn> then i would feel bad about my self :P
01:14 <Halcyon> I never expect anything in return
01:52 <Ampera> Halcyon enjoys making people feel bad, it's part of his job.
02:02 <Halcyon> You are so mean Ampera
02:07 <Ampera> I love you too
02:46 <K> hsn, that is harsh
03:04 <Ampera> Either I or the weather is weird. It's 54 out right now, my aircon is still running, and unlike usual, I don't feel cold to where I need to turn it off
03:22 <K> ur broken
03:36 <Ampera> you're a beautiful freak
03:49 <K> glorious!
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07:41 <steve30> I got a leaflet through the door the other day, offering to sell me £100 of shopping vouchers for £150.
08:20 <K> a bargain!
09:05 <Ampera> steve30, don't wait, respond to this message immediately, you may be eligible to receive a 500$ shopping spree for only 10 payments of 69.99
09:33 <steve30> ^That was pretty much it :)
09:50 <Halcyon> Aww I want in
10:51 <steve30> luckily for you, they have vacancies
10:51 <steve30> https://www.shorttermfinanceltd.co.uk/work-with-us/
12:15 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=807PIVPxpY8
12:17 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Don't mess with London police: Scooter takedowns 2020
12:19 <Halcyon> I love this video Steve
12:49 <Halcyon> That's the way to do it, run them over
13:07 <steve30> hehe
17:26 <Halcyon> I ate too much kangaroo
17:29 <Halcyon> Now I'm all full
19:00 <hsn> K, i got few 100s from upwork
19:04 <hsn> saved my ass
19:10 <Halcyon> Hooray!
19:18 <Ampera> Halcyon, speaking of which, I'm planning on visiting a local pakistani market to see what they have for unusual meats
19:23 <Ampera> I'm hoping to find mutton or goat
19:30 <Halcyon> Mmmmm gort
19:40 <Ampera> do not happen to think they'd have kangaroo, but that'd be an odd and appreciated eventuality
19:48 <Halcyon> I like goat curry but it tends to be quite boney
20:06 <Ampera> never had goat nor mutton
20:11 <Ampera> closest I've had is lamb, which I love
20:29 <Halcyon> I love tasty meats
22:05 <steve30> I got a leaflet from a takeaway which offers 'chicken' or 'meat'
22:11 <Halcyon> Hahaha
22:16 <Halcyon> Could be cat
22:59 <K> dont say such horrors to steve
23:09 <steve30> Cat Tikka Masala eh?
23:14 <Halcyon> Mew
23:27 <Halcyon> Butter Kitty?
24:25 <steve30> I guess I could put a dollop of kitty curry on your lap for you to snuggle with
27:55 <Halcyon> Ew
27:59 <Halcyon> Poopies
29:24 <steve30> I think you'd rather have a soft, cuddly kitten to snuggle with :)
29:34 <steve30> rather than a curried dead cat :)
30:01 <Halcyon> I've never eaten cat, nor do I ever want to
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30:16 <Halcyon> If they taste anything like they are, it'll be shit
30:52 <steve30> hehe
30:55 * steve30 nibbles on Halcyon 
31:38 <Halcyon> :P
32:00 <Halcyon> Spring is here, I can smell the sweet jasmine in the air
32:15 <Halcyon> It's one of my favourite times of year, when everything starts to flower again
32:22 <K> blasphemy
32:33 <Halcyon> What K ?
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33:14 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oll9hZ9rQ9c
33:15 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Synchronisiereinrichtung
56:27 <Halcyon> I'm going to go lay in bed
56:30 <Halcyon> Night all
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58:02 <Nothing\> man, fuck antivaxxers
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58:12 <Nothing\> fuck them in the ass with a needle
58:25 <hsn> night Halcyon
58:31 <hsn> Nothing\, a needle wont do much
58:35 <Nothing\> just read about how antivaxxers were protesting in front of a major hospital in vancouver
58:35 <hsn> cactus can do
58:49 <Nothing\> which happens to be right next to a cancer treatment center
58:51 <Ampera> I hate protesters
59:02 <Ampera> people shouldn't have the right to express their opinions in a public and active setting
59:05 <Ampera> It's unsightly
59:13 <Nothing\> so all of these anti-vaxxers are protesting right next to this place where all of these immunocompromised people are going for their treatment
59:29 <hsn> Ampera, u would be a good king in my area
59:37 <Nothing\> at a hospital where most people in there are either fighting for their life, have dementia, or aren't vaccinated
59:44 <hsn> oh u protest ? take this tear gas
59:46 <Nothing\> cuz those are the people that can make a change
59:57 <Nothing\> hsn: these people deserved mustard gas
59:57 <Ampera> fuck tear gas
00:05 <Ampera> the mounties should come out and shoot them
00:11 <Ampera> just blow their brains out en masse
00:12 <Nothing\> Ampera, normally i wouldn't agree
00:17 <Nothing\> but in this case, i do wholeheartedly
00:23 <Nothing\> but i can see why they're frustrated
00:28 <Ampera> after all, they had the wrong opinion, they should die for it
00:35 <hsn> in here we shoot tear gas to head
00:36 <hsn> :D
00:38 <Nothing\> i mean, we're forcing vaccines on so many groups of people
00:45 <Nothing\> health care workers and federal employees, that i can get
00:59 <Nothing\> but they're also forcing all post-secondary school students to get it
01:08 <Nothing\> so if you're not vaccinated, no college for you
01:11 <Ampera> I think we should also start doing away with the right to refuse treatment. Doctors will always know what the best course of action is for their patients
01:15 <Nothing\> which seems kind of fucked up
01:21 <Nothing\> that i don't agree with
01:22 <Ampera> we shouldn't let crazy or injured people leave hospitals
01:44 <Ampera> We shouldn't even let people refuse prescriptions, if they are instructed by authority to take a medicine, it should be forced into them
01:45 <Nothing\> i think forcing all public school employees to get vaccinated is a good idea because children under 12 can't get vaccinated
01:48 <hsn> Nothing\, its not within the health morals
02:04 <Nothing\> so if you don't get vaccinated and go work in a school, you're putting every kid in that school at risk
02:18 <Nothing\> and they're saying this 4th wave will basically be a matter of vaccinated vs unvaccinated
02:31 <Nothing\> in that the unvaccinated are gonna be decimated by the delta variant
02:39 <Nothing\> well maybe not decimated
02:48 <Nothing\> more like 3.5%imated
02:54 <Ampera> Good, non believers will all be destroyed during the rapture
03:06 <Nothing\> Ampera, kids under 12 don't have a choice
03:14 <Nothing\> this isn't a matter of belief or non-belief
03:31 <Nothing\> it's a matter of putting the people who don't have a choice at risk because of your idiotic beliefs
03:33 <Ampera> Indeed, we are on the right side of history, there is only one thing to force.
03:49 <Ampera> Anyone with reservations has made the wrong choice, and will pay dearly for it, in the blood of all humans
03:50 <hsn> i mean i encourage vacinating and hate that some ignorants are against it for no reason .. but i hate when it gets a "must" ..
03:53 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'm just thinking it'll be funny if this turns out like thalidomide
04:04 <Nothing\> and they find there's some long-term side effect they hadn't counted on
04:16 <Ampera> Shush, you're saying forbidden ideas
04:21 <Ampera> there are no long term side effects
04:22 <Nothing\> i did some light reading on the vaccine and apparently it doesn't work quite the same way as a regular vaccine
04:28 <Nothing\> it's a newer technology
04:28 <Ampera> if you're worried you're part of the problem
04:39 <Ampera> It's a proven technology, it's been in the works forever of course
04:45 <Ampera> It's been FDA approved, it's safe
04:47 <Nothing\> Ampera, actually new zealand just had the world's first bonafide death from the vaccine
04:56 <Ampera> Casualties of war
05:00 <Nothing\> yeah
05:07 <Nothing\> i mean, no drug is going to be 100% safe
05:08 <hsn> bahrain have some statistics
05:19 <Ampera> Shut up, it's 100% safe and effective
05:22 <Ampera> don't say these things
05:36 <Ampera> you are going to kill millions of people with your negative thoughts
05:43 <Nothing\> lol
05:54 <Nothing\> man i dunno about you guys though
05:59 <Nothing\> but my first shot bloody hurt
06:07 <Nothing\> not so much when they did it, that was surprisingly painless
06:18 <Ampera> The second will be worse
06:19 <Ampera> have fun
06:22 <Nothing\> but an hour or two later, my muscle itself just felt like somebody punched me real hard or something
06:36 <Nothing\> i mean it wasn't bad or anything, just worse than i expected
06:39 <K> dont be a baby
06:52 <Nothing\> but then, i just heard japan found metal fragments in over 1 million doses of moderna
07:00 <Nothing\> so, that would do it
07:26 <K> elaborate
07:38 <Nothing\> i'm not sure but i can post an article
07:42 <Ampera> No don't, or I will call the police
07:45 <Nothing\> i just glanced over the headline really
07:51 <Nothing\> i didn't care enough, i got pfizer
07:56 <Ampera> They will arrest you for your misinformation campaign
08:05 <Nothing\> lol
08:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, you know, i'm friends with a genuine communist
08:21 <Nothing\> an american communist, i should say
08:23 <Ampera> I used to be an actual communist
08:30 <Ampera> then I grew a brain
08:35 <Nothing\> i wish communism would work
08:38 <Ampera> I don't
08:42 <Nothing\> on paper it sounds perfect
08:45 <Nothing\> on paper
08:45 <Ampera> it doesn't
08:49 <hsn> Ampera, wait for it
08:58 <jaymax> I bet uniocorns taste awecome.
09:03 <Ampera> real communism has never been tried, obviously
09:06 <Ampera> that's the problem here
09:15 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/peV0BQ.jpg
09:23 <Nothing\> Ampera, i mean on the surface it sounds great but when you get to the logistics of how to actually implement it, there's really no way to do so without seriously impinging on peoples' rights and freedoms
09:40 <Nothing\> it's like "okay how about we give everybody a free house"
09:47 <Nothing\> alright, well who's gonna build those houses?
09:50 <Nothing\> who's gonna pay them?
09:53 <Nothing\> and with what money?
09:56 <jaymax> There's always someone at the top. Consolidation ensues.
09:57 <Nothing\> and from where?
10:03 <Ampera> people's individual rights and freedoms are not important than the rights and freedoms of the public as a whole
10:06 <Nothing\> slavery inevitably ensues
10:18 <Ampera> People should not be allowed to assert their own beliefs in any way that may impact another person
10:24 <Nothing\> not enough people will give a shit to volunteer
11:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, that may impact another person harmfully, should be appended to that
11:18 <Nothing\> because just by saying something to somebody, you're inevitably going to impact them on some level
11:21 <jaymax> Which for late-state corpo-capitalism ("Too big to fail" yadda yadda) the consolidation there just ends up as the single ACME entity, or, communism. You will own nothing and be happy.
11:30 <Nothing\> but i'm just worrying too much about semantics here
11:40 <Ampera> Everything is harmful
11:51 <Nothing\> Ampera, in large enough quantities
12:03 <Nothing\> thank you paracelsus
12:11 <Ampera> By the logic that there are more than two religions which are offended at the presence at any other religion, every and all statements and existences are inherently harmful
12:25 <Ampera> you are a terrible person by respects of millions of people, and there is nothing you can do about it
12:38 <Nothing\> Ampera, harmful is a partially subjective term
12:40 <Ampera> besides repent endlessly, in hope of justification by a world of prejudice
12:42 <Nothing\> depending on context
12:55 <Ampera> There's no subjectivity, I should be able to live in a world where my feelings aren't hurt
12:58 <Ampera> my ideas are never attacked
13:05 <Nothing\> i agree
13:05 <jaymax> Which is why we have separate of church and state. Wars should never be fought over religion.
13:14 <Nothing\> but unfortunately that's not a practical reality Ampera
13:17 <Ampera> and I can be however obnoxious and disgusting as I want to be without fear of anyone being allowed to comment on it
13:22 <Nothing\> so there's no point in ruminating over it
13:23 <jaymax> Although there were sugar-coated reaons in the past couple decades.
13:33 <Nothing\> it's a pipe dream humanity's been chasing for centuries, if not longer
13:34 <Ampera> I want people to be terrified of my mere presence, afraid that they may offend me in a way that may destroy their lives
13:45 <Nothing\> but all we do is repeat the same mistakes over and over again
13:46 <Ampera> Oh, my friend, we are almost there.
13:50 <Nothing\> we never learn, we never grow
13:59 <Nothing\> we just make the same mistakes with new tools
13:59 <Ampera> Soon all who do not fit in will be washed and purged in blood and fire
14:10 <Nothing\> Ampera, i sure as hell hope so
14:21 <Nothing\> seriously, i was just saying yesterday we need a rapture
14:24 <Ampera> and Satan himself will walk among the living, etching his evil taint in the faces of all who wish to follow him
14:46 <Nothing\> that this world is infinitely worse than Sodom and Gomorrah
14:53 <jaymax> PSC cycles Nothing\ and Ampera - Political, Social, Cultural. We are due for all three right about now.
15:14 <Nothing\> jaymax, it seems to happen every decade
15:29 <Nothing\> and on a larger scale every generation
15:29 <jaymax> Meh, 28 years.
15:34 <Nothing\> yes
15:53 <Ampera> The melting pot boils
16:05 <Nothing\> the thing i've learned though is not to try and hold onto ideals or thoughts that can never be
16:06 <jaymax> Wavering between centralization and distribution, for example.
16:48 <jaymax> Yup - even communes fail when the landowner finds themselves in disagreement from everyone else.
17:05 <jaymax> Squatter communes have better chances in that sense.
17:23 <Ampera> They have kebab at the pakistani restaurant down the street
17:25 <Nothing\> jaymax, not back in the day when landowners had more power over their tenants
17:26 <Ampera> that sounds good
17:42 <Nothing\> never heard of any communes failing in tudor times
18:01 <Nothing\> at least, not by that mechanism
18:05 <jaymax> Yeah I'm unfamilar with that era to comment.
18:26 <Nothing\> obviously religious establishments were essentially deleted from the face of the planet by henry viii but that's another matter
18:33 <Nothing\> and other things of that nature
18:41 <Nothing\> normal invasion etc
18:47 <Nothing\> *norman
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19:03 <jaymax> Henry the ate deleted a lot from the face of the planet. LOL
19:16 <Nothing\> yeah, including his wives lol
19:19 <Nothing\> and himself
19:41 <Nothing\> as i recall, didn't he do the same thing to his legs that elizabeth I did to her face with lead makeup?
20:05 <Nothing\> i remember he was really keen on having good looking legs but later in his life they developed sores and what not for some reason
20:20 <jaymax> Sounds familiar - they were spindly.
20:24 <Nothing\> probably couldn't hold up all of his weight on those gangly little toothpicks
20:28 <Nothing\> lol yeah
20:45 <Nothing\> he was like a marshmallow with tooth picks for legs
20:55 <Nothing\> and a blueberry for a head
21:06 <Nothing\> or maybe a grape, cuz he did have a pretty large head
21:17 <Nothing\> i was gonna say skull, but i'm pretty sure even his head was mostly fat
22:00 <jaymax> I am a beast of a person, but somehting I was able to manage is to not have elephant legs from knee down.
22:02 <Nothing\> i should write some erotica involving henry viii
22:17 <Nothing\> i've always been told i'd make a superb writer of erotica
22:50 <jaymax> He that those weird sex chairs, so it's probably a good go for lore.
23:03 <jaymax> He had those....
23:06 <Nothing\> you mean the toilet?
23:22 <jaymax> Two-level sofas.
23:39 <Nothing\> you know the guy who wiped his ass was actually one of the most coveted jobs
23:55 <Nothing\> cuz you get in real close with him and can influence him to your liking
24:07 <Nothing\> and likewise with the nobility that hangs around
24:09 <jaymax> That's high risk work.
24:12 <Nothing\> you make powerful friends
24:16 <Nothing\> that too
24:28 <Nothing\> it'd be like being a part of stalin's government
24:44 <jaymax> You mess that up, he gets a rash for a fortnight and you get dead.
24:52 <Nothing\> then again, now that i think about it pretty much everybody was at equal risk of exile in stalinist russia
24:58 <Nothing\> jaymax, not even
25:03 <Nothing\> you don't even have to mess it up
25:13 <Nothing\> you just have to have him think you did something to mess up
25:27 <Nothing\> whether by rumour or miscommunication or some faux pas
25:44 <jaymax> Yeah, any discomfort for when he sits on his own ass.
26:03 <Nothing\> lol i dunno why but i'll never forget this one segment on one of those jail programs that have become so popular
26:36 <Nothing\> this new guy comes into county and there are these neonazis in the holding cell and he's talking to one of them, i guess so they can suss him out to figure out if he's a pedo or not.
27:03 <Nothing\> and he said something they took the wrong way, so they said to make it right he had to let one of them hit him in the face once.
27:22 <Nothing\> cuz i'm sure there are neonazi gangs and shit in county
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27:36 <Nothing\> maybe riker's island, but not no county i've ever seen
28:33 <Nothing\> and the whole thing about them asking to see his papers to see what his charges are, they don't just send you into a holding cell with a paper like that. That's just asking for trouble.
28:47 <jaymax> Definately not Portland - they'd need to arrest the skinheads first./
29:29 <Nothing\> is that voodoo donuts still around
29:36 <Nothing\> that's like the only thing i know about portland
29:41 <Nothing\> that and they've got a good music scene
29:49 <Nothing\> lotsa good bands cut their teeth in portland
30:02 <Nothing\> i think nirvana did, didn't they? and modest mouse
30:08 <Nothing\> just off the top of my head
30:15 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
30:20 <Ampera> hi Nothing\ haven't seen you in a while
30:33 <Nothing\> oh not portland, aberbdeen
30:35 <Nothing\> for nirvana
30:38 <Nothing\> heya Ampera
30:41 <Nothing\> lol
30:46 * Nothing\ hugs <3
30:49 <Ampera> I just took a shit
30:51 <Ampera> it was good
30:53 <Nothing\> me too!
30:57 <Nothing\> ME TOO!
30:59 <jaymax> Yea we we're wondering if you were stuck in the Best Buy line for hours again.
31:10 <Nothing\> i was fearing i was developing a blockage
31:28 <Nothing\> cuz i hadn't gone in a week but every time i took laxatives all that came out was liquid
31:35 <Nothing\> but i could feel something in there
31:50 <Nothing\> then suddenly this morning it all came out, thank the good dude
31:54 <Ampera> Like I always say, if you have ever enjoyed a shit, you're actually enjoying being fucked in the ass by yourself
32:30 <Nothing\> Ampera, actually about the only living thing in shit is bacteria
32:41 <Nothing\> and probably some cells from your intestinal walls
32:57 <Ampera> when did I say it was or was not living
33:15 <Ampera> my hair isn't alive, but it's undisputedly a part of me.
33:33 <Nothing\> you know one thing radiation poisoning does to you is kills those cells, so when you get bloody diarrhea from radiation poisoning, which is a symptom, it's you literally shitting out the lining of your stomach and intestines
33:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, i guess that's a good point
34:45 <Nothing\> when you actually look into the mechanisms of radiation sickness, it's terrifying what it does to you
35:05 <Nothing\> especially because there's no cure and because of the mechanism, there probably never will be
35:34 <Ampera> I am going to go make tea
35:34 <Nothing\> unless we get nanobots that can rebuild cells that have been turned into swiss cheese
36:17 <Nothing\> ah come on
36:23 <Nothing\> you couldn't hold out 10 more minutes
36:35 <Nothing\> now what am i gonna do
36:48 <jaymax> Listen to MEEEEEEE
37:04 <Nothing\> i thought you had gone
37:19 <jaymax> Only one keyboard over.
37:34 <Nothing\> sounds to me like somebody needs a KVM switch
37:54 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i need an HDMI switch myself
37:55 <jaymax> I *do* have a KVM.
38:15 <jaymax> Especially on this station I'm typing on.
38:45 <Nothing\> jaymax, it's funny, i haven't used one in like 15 years, so the ones i used all had like vga, ps/2 and all variety of connectors on it
38:51 <Ampera> I like tea
38:56 <Ampera> tea is good
39:01 <Ampera> good is tea
39:05 <Nothing\> then i looked some up recently and now they're all just usb and hdmi
39:06 <Nothing\> nothing else
39:10 <Ampera> penis
39:20 <Nothing\> Ampera, and penis is russian for...?
39:28 <Ampera> friend
39:33 <jaymax> There's just a menal separation of work vs home, the work side has a stand-sit platform, and the work laptop has DisplayPort where I'm all about DVI for personal.
39:36 <Nothing\> Ampera penis me good
39:37 <jaymax> Screw EDID
39:43 <Ampera> мои друг
39:59 <Nothing\> your drooooooooooooog
40:07 <Ampera> как дела
40:10 <Nothing\> i only know what droog means because i speak NADSAT
40:57 <Nothing\> which is a futiristic british slang invested by anthony burgess based heavily on russian and cockney rhyming slang
41:15 <electrohead> I want to wave/say hey, but "penis me good"? I'm not in the mood for this already, lol
42:19 <Nothing\> a stop by the old moloko for a milk plus knives will keep you sharp for a night of twenty to one and a bit of the old in out in out with a starry old devotchka
42:25 <Nothing\> there's a sampling
42:35 <Nothing\> you can see the russian influence
43:09 <Nothing\> or tehre are other words like rookers, deng, kartoffel, gulliver
43:16 <Nothing\> govereet
43:35 <Nothing\> hell, i learned most of my russian from NADSAT lol
43:56 <Nothing\> dammit now i wanna read a clockwork orange
44:01 <Nothing\> read, not watch
44:18 <Nothing\> which btw Ampera you'd really like that movie if you haven't seen it
44:42 <Nothing\> it's a real classic masterpiece, can't go wrong with classic kubrick
44:50 <Nothing\> anyways i've gotta go
44:52 <Nothing\> bbiab
44:58 <Nothing\> be well all
45:04 <Nothing\> lol electrohead
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57:05 <electrohead> hey dude
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