// #eevblog — 2021-08-31
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00:02:10 <K> git push
00:02:12 <K> aspdfoaks
00:10:28 <Ampera> git harder
00:10:30 <Ampera> git HARDER
00:48:37 <rust_collector> GIT!
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02:26:38 <hsn> https://youtu.be/vZY61LMYuJE
02:26:39 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: 24V 4A 100W LED Switching Power Supply - test, schematic & explanation
02:27:02 <hsn> Git stash apply
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02:31:04 * Ampera slaps a stick-on mustache to hsn
02:32:00 <Lord_of_nothing> https://fahrplan.oebb.at/bin/stboard.exe/dn?L=vs_java3&evaId=8100173&boardType=dep&productsFilter=1111110100101&dirInput=&tickerID=arr&start=yes&eqstops=true&showJourneys=50&additionalTime=0
02:32:17 <rust_collector> ooh, that is like a little saddam, he just needs one of those flat hat things
02:34:24 <hsn> Whaaaat
02:34:54 <rust_collector> a beret, maybe.
02:35:06 <rust_collector> not sure about the spelling, sorry
02:35:08 <hsn> Im going for burgers
02:35:20 <hsn> No barets just burgers
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02:35:33 <rust_collector> nude?
02:37:36 <hsn> Nude burgers
02:37:49 <rust_collector> you people...
02:38:05 <hsn> Just like that porny style burgers ad
02:39:49 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/7XASib3PW8pqWxH67
02:40:37 <rust_collector> eh?
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04:37:38 * electrohead pokes his head in the channel
04:43:41 * Ampera screams vague profanities relating to eggplant while splattering portland cement on electrohead's left thigh
04:44:34 * electrohead slices and deepfries Ampera
04:44:49 * Ampera give electrohead a heart attack, out of love
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04:54:39 * T3sl4 films
04:58:47 * Ampera tapes T3sl4
04:58:49 <Ampera> to the bed
05:08:03 <Ampera> I've just learned that pre-worn guitars are a thing
05:08:14 <Ampera> like, guitars that have scratches and wear artificially put on it
05:08:21 <Ampera> who the hell would want to buy that
05:08:35 <Ampera> wear and marks are supposed to mean something on an instrument
05:08:41 <rust_collector> I have a concrete mixer, if you have guitars...
05:08:56 <Ampera> rust_collector, would you happen to have an abstract mixer?
05:09:15 <rust_collector> I am not allowed to talk about that
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05:50:36 <arch> sooo if i have a coupled inductor (ie flyback trafo), and i see that it takes about 100us for it to get saturated at 10V, that an ET of 1000V*us; i should be able to use it at mains line, lets keep it simple, 100V at 10us, before it saturates? in other words, i should be able to run it at 50kHz at 50% duty cycle?
05:51:56 <arch> assuming it was in BCM mode of course
05:56:40 <arch> also assuming the insulation was rated for it hehe. i have quite a few salvaged topswitch transformers (flybacks), and i was just testing them out. most of them seem to saturate at about 0.5A current, and with a test voltage of 11V, it takes 120us to saturate (see a sharp rise)
05:57:35 <arch> mostly 16/8/5 cores. although there are somes that are 13/7/4
05:58:05 <arch> the 16/8/5s can def handle 5V @ 2A; but the 13/7/4s are probably meant for 5W applications
05:58:43 <arch> i've cut up so many old PSUs with topswitches, and salvaged both the topswitch and the trafos. fun times.
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06:12:24 <T3sl4> arch: right
06:13:27 <arch> :D
06:13:56 <arch> as usual, thanks for the confirmation and guidance 👍
06:14:28 <arch> do emojis appear in clients that are running in the console? like irssi?
06:36:27 <DHess_US> Hurricane IDA now raining on me.
06:36:48 <arch> thanks Obama
06:37:48 <DHess_US> No, we still blame Al Gore for weather related events. He invented global climate change.
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07:52:49 <steve30> hi Halcyon
08:10:50 <MRiddickW> Thanks DHess_US and T3sl4 for the advice last night.
08:11:10 <T3sl4> np
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08:44:40 <Ampera> I wish Lemon would come back some day, I have been expanding my hammer collection
08:44:50 * Ampera gives T3sl4 a dead blow
08:45:22 <T3sl4> UNACCEPTABLE!!!1
09:08:37 <StupidLikeAFox> I still need to order a serial cable, and now I think the ballast in my kitchen light is getting iffy
09:15:32 <StupidLikeAFox> I may see if loeb has one tomorrow
10:12:44 <Nothing\> ahoy ahoy
10:12:56 <Nothing\> man my shoulder feels pretty good today :D
10:13:12 <Nothing\> except for when i reached for the salt
10:13:20 <Nothing\> that had me in agony for a good little while
10:13:22 <Nothing\> lol
10:13:38 <Nothing\> "Man cripple. Reached too hard for salt."
10:14:39 <Nothing\> StupidLikeAFox, you're canadian?
10:14:54 <StupidLikeAFox> No
10:15:00 <Nothing\> huh
10:15:12 <Nothing\> there's a supermarket chain here in canada called Loeb's
10:15:19 <Nothing\> i figured that's what you meant
10:15:28 <StupidLikeAFox> Loeb in my area is an eletrical suuply house
10:15:33 <Nothing\> lucky
10:15:41 <StupidLikeAFox> *electrical
10:16:02 <Nothing\> though we DO have a store to get stuff like that
10:16:11 <Nothing\> a surplus store that sells a bit of everything
10:16:17 <electrohead> o/
10:16:35 <Nothing\> but they mostly just sell passives and some bits and bobs like switches and motors
10:16:39 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
10:16:43 <Nothing\> how's it going?
10:16:49 <StupidLikeAFox> I know of a few other chains, but my commute passes a loeb with a slight reroute that isnt any longer
10:17:23 <Nothing\> luckily when i was just starting out as a hobbyist and trying to figure out where to get ICs from, I managed to find an old radioshack kit they had that came with a whole bunch of jellybean logic ICs
10:17:34 <Nothing\> the thing was a rip-off at $50
10:17:46 <electrohead> hey mate, it's going
10:17:50 <Nothing\> but it was better than trying to recreate ICs with discrete parts lol
10:17:53 <electrohead> just hanging, and browsing the web
10:17:55 <Nothing\> electrohead, good to hear
10:17:56 <electrohead> you?
10:18:10 <StupidLikeAFox> Nothing\: less so compoments, and more things like conduit, wire, fittings, terminals, etc
10:18:14 <Nothing\> pretty much the same, considering playing new vegas at some point
10:18:21 <Nothing\> i've become hopelessly addicted to it again
10:18:36 <Nothing\> and i never did do all of the DLCs, just the one
10:18:50 <Nothing\> i started with the one, but as i recall something about it didn't rub me the right way
10:19:23 <Nothing\> also there's apparently a proper order to complete them in, for the story you see, but the game gives you absolutely no hint of what that order is
10:19:28 <electrohead> https://i.redd.it/82pna41czjk71.png
10:19:30 <Nothing\> which i really hate when games do that
10:19:49 <StupidLikeAFox> a fixture globe might be a bit too specific, but ballasta/bulbs/lamp sockets are common enough parts
10:19:54 <Nothing\> especially when the process of trial and error required to figure it out can take dozens of hours just to get to that part of the game
10:20:04 <Nothing\> like if you've ever played final fantasy 12
10:20:14 <Nothing\> there's this special item you get later in the game
10:20:34 <Nothing\> but the only way to get it is to NOT open a few specific treasure chests up to that point
10:21:01 <Nothing\> which again, the game gives you no clue that there's anything special about the chests, doesn't even mention the special item or anything about how to get it. Not so much as a hint.
10:21:25 <Nothing\> and if you're playing the game seriously, it's probably like 50+ hours at least to get to the point where you get the special item
10:21:42 <Nothing\> and i don't think they mention anything about it if you don't get it. So there's no way to even know you did anything wrong.
10:21:51 <Nothing\> it's like, holy fucking convoluted
10:22:07 <Nothing\> and people thought the tornado in castlevania 2 was convoluted enough
10:23:24 <Nothing\> though NES games WERE pretty bad about that sorta stuff. That's one reason I never liked the original Zelda as much.
10:23:58 <Nothing\> it doesn't really give you any clue or idea of which walls to bomb or which trees to burn. Where the later games at least had cracks in breakable walls and stuff like that
10:24:04 <Nothing\> oh jeez, or metroid
10:36:23 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
10:36:25 <Ampera> how are you Nothing\
10:36:39 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
10:36:43 <Nothing\> i'm doing pretty good
10:36:49 <Nothing\> how bout you?
10:37:00 <Ampera> brought my 8 string to the shop today to get adjusted
10:39:32 <Nothing\> nice
10:39:37 <Nothing\> bet it feels great now
10:39:49 <Ampera> no
10:39:52 <Ampera> it feels like nothing now
10:40:01 <Nothing\> that's no good
10:40:01 <Ampera> since I brought it into the shop today
10:40:03 <Ampera> so I don't have it
10:40:08 <Nothing\> ohhhh
10:40:14 <Nothing\> well, even better
10:40:25 <Nothing\> waiting makes things better when they finally come
10:40:42 <Nothing\> provided you don't wait so long you're just too pissed off to care anymore
10:41:56 <Ampera> I have never been pissed off in my life
10:42:04 <Ampera> and I'm fucking livid that you even consider the notion that I might have been
10:42:32 <Ampera> if you even THINK about the POSSIBILITY of me being pissed again, I will come over there and bury you so hard and so fast you'll eat more dirt than a TBM
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10:50:26 <Nothing\> lol
10:52:00 <Nothing\> thinking about playing fallout 4 again when i'm done with new vegas
10:52:02 Quit: modrobert ([email protected]) Quit: Lost terminal
10:52:07 <Nothing\> but i just didn't like fallout 4
10:53:40 <Nothing\> i didn't like 3 because it was too easy to get lost in the urban setting, which was a problem that cropped up in 4. I gave up my last run when I found myself wandering aimlessly through some sort of industrial plant trying to find a quest marker using the absolutely useless "local map" feature which crams the 3 dimensional area into a 2 dimensional map you can't make heads or tails of half the time
10:54:46 <Ampera> Fallout 3 and NV play pretty poorly on Linux
10:54:49 <Ampera> especially NV
10:54:58 <Ampera> to be fair they play pretty poorly on Windows too
10:57:13 <Nothing\> that's a shame, NV is a fucking gem
10:57:29 <Nothing\> and i don't use that term lightly when it comes to video games. Especially ones made in this century
10:58:43 <Nothing\> Usually I stick to games that are either sequels, reboots, or spinoffs of games i've played in the past. Especially retro games. Ones that I know for certain I'll enjoy. Because wading through all of the crappy games just isn't worth it anymore
10:58:56 <Nothing\> I remember the exact moment I gave up on new games I was unfamiliar with, too
10:59:37 <Nothing\> it was when I played this game ID released like 12 years ago or so called RAGE. It was such a hyped up AAA title. But it was a complete piece of shit.
11:00:30 <Nothing\> or the many similarly shitty games that i've seen get near flawless reviews. It's making me feel like an old man who's been left behind by a world that's moved on.
11:01:28 <Nothing\> oh hey Ampera that reminds me
11:01:39 <Nothing\> i found a leaked copy of doom 5 on bit torrent
11:01:52 <Ampera> you need help
11:02:05 <Ampera> and you wonder how you get bitcoin miners on your system :P
11:02:12 <Nothing\> it was from chinese site i've never heard of. I found the link hidden inside a rar that came with one of my other torrents
11:02:32 <Ampera> oh this just keeps getting better
11:02:33 <Nothing\> it's amazing. it was just like a 10mb exe that installed software that downloads it for me
11:02:55 <Nothing\> lol dude i'm fucking with you
11:03:08 <Ampera> you say that now
11:03:11 <Ampera> but I believe you
11:03:24 <Nothing\> i do remember back in the day though on kazaa you'd see like "doom 4.exe - 48kb"
11:03:32 <Nothing\> just a month after doom 3 came out
11:03:54 <Ampera> there is a doom 5 though
11:04:03 <Nothing\> well, sequentially yeah
11:04:39 <Nothing\> going by that logic, we're on The Sims 57
11:04:52 <Ampera> the sims suck
11:04:55 <Nothing\> yup
11:05:01 <Ampera> simcopter was better
11:05:07 <Nothing\> fuck yeah dude!
11:05:11 <Nothing\> that game was amazing
11:05:15 <Nothing\> especially for its time
11:05:29 <Nothing\> like, it came out in the late 90's so for the time it was pretty outstanding
11:05:34 <Nothing\> very underrated
11:05:36 <Ampera> not really
11:05:42 <Nothing\> not graphics wise, no
11:05:48 <Ampera> nor gameplay wise either
11:06:01 <Nothing\> but in terms of gameplay, having an open world sandbox type game
11:06:07 <Nothing\> or open world anyways
11:06:17 <Ampera> it wasn't really open world
11:06:21 <Ampera> there were multiple closed maps
11:06:22 <Nothing\> and yeah i guess it did get a bit repedetive
11:06:41 <Nothing\> Ampera, where do you draw the line between a closed map and an open world?
11:06:51 <Nothing\> seems like pretty subjective terms
11:07:07 <Nothing\> i mean, it's like one of those things you know when you see it
11:07:59 <Nothing\> but you just can't really pin down metrics, or even qualities that differentiate them from one another
11:08:17 <Nothing\> other than "open worlds are big"
11:08:37 <Nothing\> and perhaps that they give the illusion of having no boundary, in part due to their large size
11:08:43 <Ampera> an open world is where you can non-linearly get to all locations and objectives available
11:08:49 <Nothing\> until you hit an invisible wall
11:08:56 <Ampera> SimCopter had levels and different maps and branches
11:09:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, by that logic, metroidvanias would be open world
11:09:29 <Ampera> they would be
11:09:40 <Nothing\> which i mean, by definition they ARE, but you generally don't think of them as being in the same genre as say, gta
11:09:50 <Nothing\> or just cause
11:09:52 <Ampera> I have never played GTA so I have no clue what you are talking about
11:10:08 <Nothing\> well, whatever game
11:10:11 <Nothing\> they're all the same
11:10:24 <Nothing\> they're like FPSs
11:10:34 <Nothing\> you played one you've played em all
11:10:48 <Nothing\> and definitely have a good idea of what defines them
11:11:11 <Ampera> I disrespectfully disagree
11:11:20 <Nothing\> or "features" which are regurgitated from one game to the next
11:11:26 <Nothing\> Ampera, of course i'm generalizing
11:11:31 <Nothing\> there will be exceptions
11:12:02 <Nothing\> not to disparage you or your opinion due to your age, but if you give it long enough you start to see the patterns repeating
11:12:33 <Nothing\> especially with the recent lack of creativity in all of the arts over the past 20 years thanks in part due to the internet
11:13:51 <Nothing\> it's like, before streaming when you had to watch a show once a week. I could actually enjoy say, House as an example.
11:13:57 <Nothing\> not even streaming
11:14:30 <Nothing\> but then when i started getting them online and watching them back to back, I realized every episode just followed the exact same formula and it completely ruined the series
11:14:47 <Nothing\> and more and more I'm noticing the same thing happening with other shows
11:14:57 <Nothing\> or that it had happened when i cared enough to watch shows
11:15:48 <Nothing\> it's the same thing, you spend enough time playing enough video games you start to notice similar patterns and repetitions that just take away the novelty
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11:17:24 <Nothing\> and to me, that was one of the biggest things that attracted me to video games was the novelty. Hell, back when the first 3D games came out on the PS1 I remember playing them and it was like being taken to another world I could explore and just have fun with. It didn't matter if it was some subpar game nobody had ever heard of before. Just being 3D made it so much more immersive than anything I'd experienced in ga
11:17:32 <Nothing\> I miss that feeling
11:18:15 <Nothing\> I might get it once in a while from a really well fleshed out open world game with lots of content like GTA, or Breath of the Wild, or Fallout
11:18:45 <Nothing\> but those are games that are or were mostly unique before all of the copy-cats
11:19:30 <Nothing\> I was just thinking yesterday about how Fallout 3 was basically the first game to combine the FPS genre with the RPG genre
11:20:07 <Nothing\> no such game (at least mainstream or that I was aware of) existed before that. Yet, it's a genre we take for granted these days.
11:22:14 * T3sl4 sneaks up behind and tickles Nothing\
11:25:51 * arch slaps T3sl4's butt with a tentacle
11:26:17 <T3sl4> one down, nine to go
11:28:52 <jaymax> nine tentacles to go?
11:29:01 <jaymax> or nine butts?
11:30:25 * jaymax tosses Dr. Mephisto at T3sl4 to triple genetic goals.
11:30:54 <T3sl4> I
11:30:54 <T3sl4> want
11:30:56 <T3sl4> ten
11:30:59 <T3sl4> buttsandIcannotlie
11:31:18 <jaymax> Bold
11:31:37 <T3sl4> brash
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11:48:47 <Nothing\> i'm a lumberjack and i'm okay
11:49:54 * T3sl4 inspects Nothing\'s bra
11:50:14 <Nothing\> lol
11:50:31 <Nothing\> i bet lumberjacks really did get it on with eachother brokeback mountain style
11:50:42 <Nothing\> just from the loneliness and close kinship
11:51:02 <Nothing\> and statistical inevitability that some of them were homosexuals
11:51:11 <Nothing\> were/are
11:51:37 <T3sl4> sure
11:51:49 <jaymax> Whole new meaning to morning wood.
11:51:51 <Nothing\> look at travis walton. Went out on a 5 day orgie with a buncha strange aliens. Got so messed up he doesn't even remember what happened.
11:52:06 <Nothing\> probably sucking all of their jagons
11:53:17 * Nothing\ notices a lot of empty soda cans around him
11:53:48 <Nothing\> i hate it when garbage just starts to blend in with the scenery around you and you stop noticing it until you stop and really take a look around you
12:03:46 * T3sl4 munches a nice and basic sausage pizza fresh from the oven
12:12:36 <electrohead> T3sl4: have you ever worked with vapor phase reflowing, at all?
12:12:45 <T3sl4> no
12:12:51 <T3sl4> looks slick
12:13:07 <electrohead> yeah man, I may try it out in the future, just to get some experience with it
12:14:12 * Halcyon licks Ampera
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12:50:47 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
12:50:50 * Ampera hugs Halcyon again
12:50:58 * Ampera hugs Halcyon again and again
12:51:15 <Nothing\> T3sl4, you suddenly made me want to write a program in QB64 to draw a picture of a sausage pizza
12:51:31 <Nothing\> but that's beyond my abilities. I find drawing graphics in basic to be incredibly tedious.
12:51:51 <T3sl4> well, that'd be vector graphics, but worse in every way
12:52:11 <Nothing\> yeah but i think qb64 has some better tools
12:52:18 <Nothing\> like it can use opengl
12:52:26 <Nothing\> so there must be something 3d it can do
12:52:56 <Nothing\> but yeah, making anything more meaningful than simple shapes using vector graphics like that is just a pain
12:53:06 <T3sl4> if you want to set a HD mode and fill a GL pipeline sure
12:53:28 <Nothing\> that one channel, retro game mechanics did a video on vector graphics and vector processors
12:53:47 <Nothing\> and i actually thought it was cool how it stores the graphics in memory as a vector table
12:54:04 <Nothing\> i mean, it's obvious, but seeing how it's actually applied was neat
12:54:49 <Nothing\> seeing the table displayed visually as each little bit of vector graphics instead of just as sets of numbers
12:56:03 <Nothing\> i can see why they didn't go far in video games though. Maybe if they could apply even they most basic of textures. But that was a long way off.
12:57:49 <T3sl4> data structures are very basic and fundamental, but have a huge bearing on how you represent and process things
12:58:27 <T3sl4> sometimes half the trouble of a problem is just deciding how to store the data, and having a language fluid enough to allow rapid iteration on that
12:58:44 * electrohead iterates T3sl4 before wondering off to bed
12:58:46 <T3sl4> (which is most, like just in C, write the struct into the header and everyone using that header knows about it, ez)
12:58:58 * T3sl4 reads strings to electrohead
12:59:29 * electrohead memcpy's himself
12:59:37 <electrohead> goodnight o/
12:59:45 <T3sl4> :) /
13:02:54 <Halcyon> :D
13:03:00 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
13:03:47 <Halcyon> Not too bad, how are you?
13:03:52 <Ampera> I bought a new guitar
13:03:52 <Ampera> https://www.ibanez.com/usa/products/detail/rgms8_01.html
13:03:54 <EEVBot> [Title] - RGMS8 | RG | ELECTRIC GUITARS | PRODUCTS | Ibanez guitars
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13:04:18 <Halcyon> I'd love to play with your fingerboard
13:05:21 <Ampera> it's got frets, it's a fretboard
13:05:30 <Halcyon> Yeh you can also call it that
13:05:31 <Halcyon> Same thing
13:05:47 <Ampera> I wish it had more strings, but the 9 string version was over a thousand bucks
13:05:53 <Ampera> so I guess I have to settle for 8
13:05:57 <Halcyon> Awww
13:05:59 <Halcyon> You are so hard done by
13:06:21 <Halcyon> Some people in other countries can't afford 8 string guitars :P
13:06:58 <Ampera> sucks to be them
13:07:07 <Ampera> Didn't know Australia was that bad
13:07:26 <Halcyon> *shrug* In my case I have nil interest in musical instruments
13:08:01 <Ampera> Just another feather in your depressing cap of pleasures you refuse to enjoy
13:08:25 <Halcyon> I don't have a depressing cap
13:08:37 <Halcyon> Don't have time to be depressed
13:08:44 <Ampera> so you just look ridiculous with a load of feathers on your head
13:08:49 <Ampera> grinning like a moron
13:09:17 <Halcyon> A feather hat would be kind of cool
13:09:24 <Halcyon> Like a peacock
13:09:31 <Ampera> like a discount yankee doodle
13:09:34 <Ampera> who couldn't even afford the cap
13:09:34 <Nothing\> wow
13:09:45 <Nothing\> the US lost almost 10,000 aircraft during vietnam
13:09:47 <Ampera> I guess that's why they don't sing that version of the song in Australia
13:09:55 <Nothing\> that's an insane number
13:09:58 <Nothing\> and a lot of money
13:10:07 <Halcyon> *shrug*
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13:10:24 <Nothing\> but that's including early UAVs, planes, choppers, anything that flies
13:10:31 <Halcyon> Speaking of Chris Gammell, he is actually quite attractive
13:11:51 <Nothing\> k, i call my cat a good kitty and he farts in my face
13:11:56 <Nothing\> classic cat behavior
13:12:00 <Nothing\> but what does it mean?
13:12:09 * Ampera puts two multimeter probes across Halcyon
13:12:11 <Ampera> oh dear
13:12:13 <Ampera> -infinity
13:12:21 <Halcyon> YAY
13:12:22 <Halcyon> I win
13:12:49 * Nothing\ goes back to trying to write a meaningful assembly program for the c128
13:13:13 <Halcyon> I need to wee
13:14:23 <Nothing\> something more than just moving numbers around and doing basic arithmetic on them
13:17:04 <Nothing\> one big problem i have with assembly that i've noticed
13:17:27 <Nothing\> if i screw up and find i have to put an instruction in between 2 existing instructions, what am i supposed to do?
13:18:19 <Halcyon> Actually I'll be back soon, I'm going to make a slice
13:18:54 <Nothing\> cuz if the instruction's written to say, $3000 and that's where the program starts, then i find i need to put something else before that instruction, how am i supposed to move each successive instruction over to make room to insert the additional instruction?
13:20:47 <T3sl4> they invented assemblers a long ass fuckin time ago
13:26:13 <Nothing\> well that's what i'm using
13:26:20 <Nothing\> i'm using the monitor in the c128
13:26:26 <Nothing\> none of this wozmon rubbish
13:26:33 <Nothing\> i couldn't make heads or tails of that
13:26:48 <Nothing\> but maybe that's cuz i've never touched an apple anything
13:27:56 <Nothing\> anyways i found this interesting looking series on youtube on writing assembly for the c128 that's at least 20 parts long that are each 30 minutes or so so that seems like it might be a valuable resource to tap into
13:28:06 <Nothing\> though i'd rather find a pdf
13:28:27 <Nothing\> videos just aren't well suited to teaching programming ime
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13:33:24 <Nothing\> hey Ampera
13:33:26 <Nothing\> guess what
13:33:28 <Nothing\> huh
13:33:30 <Ampera> no
13:33:33 <Ampera> no
13:33:35 <Nothing\> remember how you said my system would never be unfucked?
13:33:39 <Nothing\> well i just unfucked it
13:33:39 <Nothing\> i didn't know touchtone was a registered trademark of at&t
13:33:43 <Nothing\> and it feels fanfuckingtastic
13:33:46 <Ampera> see you same time tomorrow
13:33:50 <Nothing\> i wonder what the generic term for it is
13:33:58 <Nothing\> it got to the point where it was disabling fucking task manager
13:34:14 <Nothing\> but i got that back, ran avg again and it found the virus
13:34:16 <Nothing\> dual tone multifrequency signalling?
13:34:25 <Nothing\> the virus tried to garble all of the text in avg so i couldn't read it
13:34:35 <Nothing\> it even made my run bar completely blank
13:34:36 <Nothing\> doesn't roll off the tongue quite the same way
13:34:52 <Nothing\> but even when i did try to run task manager it would just say 'task manager's been disabled by your system admin'
13:35:01 <Nothing\> but it's all perfectly fine now
13:35:03 <Nothing\> though dtmf feels nice on the tongue
13:35:10 <Nothing\> no high cpu usage either
13:35:22 <Nothing\> but yeah a reboot will see what happens
13:35:46 <Nothing\> but in the meantime i'm gonna wallow in my success
13:35:55 <Nothing\> oh yay my shoulder's getting to where i can't even put on my shirt anymore
13:35:58 <Nothing\> oh yeah i'm getting my fauci ouchy tomorrow too
13:36:20 <Nothing\> so pray i don't get the autism
14:00:49 <Nothing\> wow, wanna make your code as hard to read as possible? Have a new line every time there's a whitespace character
14:01:10 <Nothing\> although i realize newline IS a whitespace character, you know what i mean
14:04:06 <Halcyon> Right, the first bit of the slide is done
14:04:10 <Halcyon> Got to wait for it to set now
14:07:05 <T3sl4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language)
14:07:06 <EEVBot> [Title] - Whitespace (programming language) - Wikipedia
14:38:06 <Nothing\> T3sl4, heh i was actually just reading about brainfuck today
14:38:13 <Nothing\> which i believe whitespace is based on
14:38:23 <Nothing\> or they have a similar origin or something like that
14:40:10 <Nothing\> oh cool, an online fortran compiler
14:40:48 <Nothing\> i don't think i ever gave fortran, or cobol a go, and i always felt bad about that for some reason
14:45:35 <Erhard> Everyone who gets the vax is a 5G antenna?
14:45:53 <Erhard> Oh, wow. I was WAY scrolled up. So that comment made no sense
14:45:54 <Erhard> Sorry
14:46:09 <Nothing\> oh shit
14:46:18 <Nothing\> is that why people keep calling my yagi uda?
14:46:23 <Nothing\> *me
14:46:36 <Erhard> Yep. That's whay you have a series of progressively smaller pairs of arms
14:46:47 <Erhard> s/whay/why/
14:46:53 * Nothing\ looks at his fingers
14:46:59 <Nothing\> REFLECTORS!!!!!
14:47:06 <Erhard> Directors!!!!!!!!!
14:47:10 * Nothing\ starts breaking his fingers off
14:48:06 <Nothing\> seriously though i just thought of something fun
14:48:18 <Nothing\> work out your exact height (somehow)
14:48:51 <Nothing\> then use that to figure out what bands in your height or there abouts are used for
14:49:02 <Nothing\> cuz i think radio's around 1 meter or so isn't it
14:49:14 <Nothing\> i really dunno anything about radio so
14:49:52 <Nothing\> but i just thought it'd be neat to see what sorta EM radiation your body best absorbs
14:51:54 <Nothing\> here we go
14:52:28 <Nothing\> like according to this calculator and my math, mine would be 176.348mhz
14:54:24 <Nothing\> hrm right in VHF territory, that's weirdly coincidental
14:54:33 <Nothing\> the boundary between vhf and uhf
14:56:50 <Nothing\> huh, fortran has a data type for complex numbers
14:59:31 <T3sl4> well yeah, around 1/2 wave at body height
14:59:50 <T3sl4> fortran was created for scientific computation purposes
15:09:47 <Halcyon> Bleep bloop
15:11:18 <Nothing\> oh is it half body height?
15:11:39 <Nothing\> i wasn't sure if it was half, X2 or =, i couldn't remember
15:11:53 <Nothing\> so i just went with =
15:12:11 <Nothing\> so that's for 1.7m i think i did
15:12:15 <Nothing\> yeah
15:13:35 <Nothing\> 375mhz?
15:15:05 <steve30> hi
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15:33:13 <Erhard> Yeah, I was trying to figure out how you were so tall
15:42:30 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
15:42:40 <Nothing\> jdt uft;
15:42:47 <Nothing\> erm
15:42:49 <Nothing\> hey guys
15:43:00 <T3sl4> Halcyon and steve30 be like: https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/pesmw1/human_talks_to_kitty_kitty_cant_believe_it/
15:43:03 <Nothing\> wonder how my keyboard layout got switched
15:43:03 <EEVBot> [Title] - Reddit - Dive into anything
15:43:33 <Nothing\> oh probably when i was opening task manager, cuz the shortcut to change the keyboard layout is ctrl+shift
15:43:39 <Nothing\> kind of annoying really
15:43:51 <Halcyon> Stupid cat. It'll eat your face off.
15:45:25 <Nothing\> welp, there was a suicide bombing at kabul airport
15:45:30 <Nothing\> that didn't take long
15:48:35 <Halcyon> Watching candy making is surprisingly relaxing
15:49:01 <Halcyon> Especially folding that huge mass of partially molten sugar
15:56:48 * T3sl4 licks Halcyon, splashes some ketchup
15:57:53 <Halcyon> And hot sauce?
16:03:11 <T3sl4> on fruit, are you crazy?
16:06:03 <Nothing\> i know exactly what you mean
16:09:21 <Halcyon> Sure
16:09:32 <Halcyon> Avocado with tabasco is yummy
16:09:43 <Halcyon> (Usually with eggs)
16:18:13 <steve30> right, i think i've backed up everything from my current web host
16:20:25 <Halcyon> Hooray!
16:21:23 <steve30> seems strange to migrate away after 13 years
16:21:59 <Halcyon> Meh, it's just a service. Got to shop around for what works for you.
16:22:52 <T3sl4> true dat
16:23:32 <Halcyon> And tomato
16:23:34 <Halcyon> Tomato is a fruit
16:24:34 <T3sl4> pepper too, botanically speaking
16:27:07 <Halcyon> Mmmmmm... pepper, nom noms
16:27:21 <Halcyon> Especially white pepper, not that black pepper isn't delicious
16:27:27 <Halcyon> Or red pepper
16:27:33 <Halcyon> Let's not get "woke"
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16:29:37 <Halcyon> Hey Zsjoelfir
16:30:27 <Zsjoelfir> morningses!!!!!
16:30:37 * Zsjoelfir hugs Halcyon
16:33:01 <steve30> I've made an account with https://www.mythic-beasts.com
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16:35:14 <Halcyon> How much bandwidth/storage do you actually need?
16:35:55 <steve30> I've gone for 5GB/100GB as I already use less than that
16:36:07 <steve30> I may start hosting more in the future though if needs be
16:40:47 <Halcyon> I'm kinda bored
16:40:50 <Halcyon> What to do...
16:41:07 <Zsjoelfir> entertain me
16:41:18 <Zsjoelfir> and tell me where rusticles went
16:41:31 <Halcyon> Rusticles?
16:41:58 <Zsjoelfir> rust_collector
16:42:03 <Halcyon> Oh, I don't know
16:48:09 <Zsjoelfir> Hm. I should ask him
16:52:55 <MrMobodies> Hello quick question
16:53:04 <Halcyon> Hello MrMobodies
16:53:07 <MrMobodies> two years ago I had a
16:53:20 <MrMobodies> I overclocked a board to 133mhz Gigabytes 6BXE
16:53:26 <MrMobodies> FSB I mean
16:53:32 <MrMobodies> it worked fine for a while and stopped working
16:53:48 <MrMobodies> I have another and was comparing gthe voltages
16:54:00 <MrMobodies> the only difference was that the regulators near the cpu
16:54:13 <MrMobodies> Volts on the working one went up to 50v I think and down and up
16:54:26 <MrMobodies> the faulty board one of them worked but the other didn't
16:54:30 <MrMobodies> two ceB6030ls
16:54:40 <MrMobodies> I think one of them is faulty
16:55:00 <MrMobodies> the problem is I can't find that exact part apart from dodgy chinese supplies
16:55:43 <MrMobodies> I can get
16:55:44 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164388823415?hash=item2646566177:g:COIAAOSwW5dfZEPt
16:55:45 <EEVBot> [Title] - 5PC CEB6030L CET 60A 30V SOT-263 | eBay
16:55:50 <MrMobodies> 5 of them but should i trust them
16:56:07 <MrMobodies> what's the worst that can happen if they are fualty?
16:56:08 <Halcyon> Beyond my level of expertise
16:56:14 <MrMobodies> oh
16:56:34 <MrMobodies> I think one of them got overloaded
16:56:52 <MrMobodies> they both both go up to 50c and down on the working board
16:57:01 <MrMobodies> faulty board only one of them seems to work
16:57:27 <MrMobodies> Later I'll start a thread on it
16:57:37 <MrMobodies> and see if anyone can come up with a similar part
16:57:53 <MrMobodies> I think I have checked before to see one that matches the parameters but I couldn't find
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17:16:00 <Zsjoelfir> Und I did
17:17:52 <Halcyon> Und what did he say?
17:19:37 <Zsjoelfir> He forgot to restart it when he had to restart the PC while cleaning up the garage
17:20:58 <Halcyon> Rude. He is dead to me.
17:22:40 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUNicSOW46E
17:22:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Pumping water without electricity - The Breurram
17:22:42 <Halcyon> How clever
17:23:11 <Zsjoelfir> yeah, lets all ghost him when he returns! XD
17:23:20 <Zsjoelfir> which will be late this day, or night.
17:23:39 <Zsjoelfir> they have a street party at 1800 today, he said he will restart it "maybe after that"
17:28:49 <Halcyon> Oh nice
17:30:31 <Halcyon> Done. All TikTok domains are now blocked on my network.
17:35:18 <steve30> So, I've told the new web host to provide DNS for my hosting, and I've told my registrar the name servers of the new host
17:35:27 <steve30> I /think/ thats pretty much what i need to do
17:36:13 <Halcyon> Yep you should be able to login and just change your A and/or AAAA records
17:36:19 <Halcyon> (and MX if you use it for mail)
17:36:29 <Halcyon> It'll replicate to the world within the next day or so
17:41:49 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XDjwxO0kw
17:41:49 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: White Privilege and #BAND-AIDS
17:42:02 <Halcyon> I can't believe people as so fucking stupid
17:50:33 <K> hello carrots
17:50:40 <Halcyon> Evening parsnip
17:52:30 * K parsnips some
17:52:56 <K> hello tivolis
17:53:05 <Halcyon> Evening K
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18:27:09 <Halcyon> T3sl4, electrohead: https://youtu.be/NNOmv_i8ZU8?t=173
18:27:10 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Cats What I Reckon
18:27:18 <Halcyon> "Damn cute dickheads" is pretty accurate
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18:33:47 <steve30> can someone check http://stevecoates.net/stuff/ and tell me if all the files are dated 2021?
18:33:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - Index of /stuff
18:33:59 <Halcyon> Seem to be yes
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18:34:42 <steve30> that must be the new server then
18:35:00 <Halcyon> Depends what kind of file system and which date/time field your server is reading
18:35:10 <Halcyon> Created dates aren't preserved across file systems
18:35:35 <Halcyon> The created date only refers to the time/date the file came to exist on that particular file system.
18:36:06 <steve30> yes, because i just uploaded them to the new server now :)
18:36:07 <Halcyon> Which is why it changes if you copy files to an external drive on a Windows box
18:36:09 <Halcyon> Yep
18:36:26 <Halcyon> It's filesystem metadata as opposed to file metadata
18:46:25 <steve30> email is still going to the old server, hopefully that will change soon
18:48:34 <Halcyon> I have to say, playback on Odysee is getting much better
18:48:45 <Halcyon> Haven't had any buffering issues for quite a while now
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19:18:09 <Halcyon> At the moment I only use it for EEVblog and Big Clive
19:19:10 <steve30> i'm subscribed to Dave, clive, julian illet, vwestlife and thriftyAV.
19:19:36 <Halcyon> I like that you can save favourites without having an account
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20:26:43 * steve30 prods Halcyon
20:27:14 * Halcyon is prodded
20:27:38 <steve30> I fabulously appeared on the Youtubes again :)
20:27:48 <Halcyon> Oh?
20:27:58 <steve30> at manchester pride
20:28:06 <Halcyon> Link?
20:28:53 <steve30> I have to warn you... I bumped in to Sargent eBay while I was there... Lets just say, he hasn't learnt his lesson from last year :)
20:29:20 <K> uh oh
20:30:03 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBPWbtKgVhI
20:30:03 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Police Want To Arrest BANAMAN In Manchester City Centre
20:30:26 <Halcyon> Oh gawd, it's wannabe again
20:31:48 <Halcyon> Very well spoken Steve :)
20:32:11 <Halcyon> But yeh, I really don't like that guy. He obviously goes out looking for fights, then wonders why he finds one
20:32:55 <steve30> I didn't know he was there that day, He just walked past me else where in the city while i was eating my sausage roll.
20:33:31 <K> gygy steve said "sausage"
20:34:12 <Halcyon> Sort of reminds me of a very low-key version of this idiot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMrInRNo9p8
20:34:12 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Metro State: Putting The "Risk" in "High Risk Funerals"
20:35:30 <steve30> hehe
20:39:57 <Lord_of_nothing> hi
20:48:59 <Halcyon> I should crack out my C64
21:00:13 * Ampera cracks out Halcyon's wang
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21:01:20 <K> what about dong?
21:01:49 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
21:02:48 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
21:02:59 <Halcyon> I'm good, how did you sleep?
21:03:17 <Ampera> by lying down on my bed, closing my eyes, and praying to god that my headache would go away
21:03:30 <Halcyon> What's a "god" ?
21:03:38 <Ampera> Me.
21:03:45 <Halcyon> Makes sense
21:03:53 * Halcyon gives Ampera a head massage
21:04:06 <Ampera> I will let you know I am a polytheist, in that I believe in more than one god.
21:04:12 <Ampera> Unfortunately all those other gods are also me.
21:04:34 <Halcyon> Works for me
21:04:43 <Ampera> Impressively, my guitar is out for delivery.
21:04:51 <Ampera> I only ordered it yesterday afternoon
21:04:55 <Halcyon> \o/
21:05:08 <Halcyon> So you'll be annoying your neighbours in no time!
21:05:20 <Ampera> No I also bought some headphones and a good DAC/ADC
21:05:40 <Ampera> I ordered it all off Amazon, but the reason the guitar came so fast is it wasn't Amazon who shipped it
21:06:01 <Halcyon> And it didn't come via UPS?
21:06:02 <Ampera> because those headphones and the ADC/DAC haven't even gone out the door
21:06:09 <Ampera> No actually it is coming via UPS
21:06:20 <Ampera> which is annoying since they want a signature, and they usually wait about five seconds for one
21:06:24 <Ampera> and then will also come at 9PM
21:16:05 <Halcyon> Hah
21:16:46 <Halcyon> Want do so something Ampera?
21:16:55 <Ampera> oh god
21:16:56 <Ampera> what
21:17:09 <Halcyon> It was a question, not a suggestion
21:17:12 <Halcyon> I'm bored
21:17:23 <Ampera> I'm at work
21:17:29 <Halcyon> Oh FFS
21:17:35 <Halcyon> You and your delayed days
21:17:36 <Ampera> so unless that something is bullshit on IRC
21:17:49 <Halcyon> No. It's finnnnne
21:18:16 <Ampera> hahaha https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9yv0PZWEAYOHUX?format=jpg&name=900x900
21:18:42 <Halcyon> ?
21:18:57 <Halcyon> I don't understand the reference
21:19:15 <Ampera> of course you don't you foreigner
21:19:44 <Ampera> chef boyardee, it's a brand of canned pasta
21:19:59 <Halcyon> Oh right
21:20:08 <Halcyon> I assume it's shit, being canned pasta?
21:20:23 <Ampera> no it's actually worse than most other generic brands
21:20:34 <Ampera> it tastes genuinely awful and is actually inedible
21:20:39 <Halcyon> Soooo <Shit ?
21:20:40 <Ampera> whereas normal canned pasta is just cheap kid's comfort food
21:20:48 <Ampera> no > shit
21:20:54 <Halcyon> Oh yes
21:21:12 <Halcyon> To be fair, tinned spaghetti is great on toasted sandwiches with cheese
21:21:31 <Halcyon> It has no right to be, but that's my ultimate "can't be fucked" food
21:21:33 <Ampera> I believe it
21:21:44 <Ampera> canned food in general can be pretty nice
21:21:49 <Halcyon> Baked beans are just as good
21:21:57 <Ampera> yes but you maniacs put them in tomato sauce
21:22:12 <Halcyon> But both make a mess unless you have one of those toasted sandwich presses that crimp the edge of the bread
21:22:25 <Halcyon> BBQ or Chilli sauce is fine too
21:22:27 <Halcyon> I don't mind
21:22:32 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_baked_beans
21:22:33 <EEVBot> [Title] - Boston baked beans - Wikipedia
21:22:34 <Ampera> moron
21:22:45 <Ampera> also I do have one of those sandwich presses, I need to use it more often
21:22:54 <Halcyon> I actually have a recipe for Boston baked beans which I have been making for years.
21:23:03 <Ampera> problem is I don't have any bread, I go to the supermarket to infrequently I rarely can keep it around
21:23:24 <Ampera> the traditional American recipe involves an extra large can and a can opener
21:23:29 <Ampera> saucepan to taste
21:23:46 <Halcyon> Oh I make them with dried (rehydrated) beans when I can be bothered
21:23:58 <Halcyon> Takes forever.
21:24:03 <Ampera> I'm actually tempted to do that now
21:24:07 <Halcyon> Actually now I have a pressure cooker, I should try them again
21:24:46 <Halcyon> For me, I love adding speck. Gives it that nice smokey/bacony nom noms
21:27:12 <Ampera> saltpork would be nice
21:27:27 <Ampera> though we don't have real saltpork, ours is more like a brick of bacon
21:27:53 <Halcyon> Sounds like something you can just attack with a knife and lob chunks off for a snack
21:28:24 <Ampera> Here it's usually for adding to stuff, as it is rather salty
21:28:33 <Ampera> it's not a dry cured meat, so you would likely want to cook it
21:28:47 <Ampera> cutting it into strips and frying it is how I typically eat it
21:29:34 <Halcyon> We normally get either the Italian type speck, which is delicious just sliced, or the German style smoked pork, which is what I normally buy from the supermarket if I'm making baked beans.
21:29:59 <Ampera> I wouldn't cook a dry cured meat
21:30:02 <Ampera> it's really not a good idea
21:30:35 <Halcyon> You can, I've pan fried procuitto before, it stinks like hell, but tastes quite nice and goes super crispy.
21:30:53 <Halcyon> Wrapped around some chicken breast with sage is phenomenal.
21:30:55 <Ampera> Perhaps in that method, but I've tried it in pasta and it destroys the flavor and texture
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21:33:30 <Halcyon> Yeh in a pasta type dish, you want something with a bit of fat and substance. I either use bacon or speck.
21:33:50 <Halcyon> The speck I use tends to be more smoked than salty
21:35:27 <Halcyon> Or ham if I have leftovers from something. Usually around Christmas time
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21:38:19 <Ampera> GOOD MORNING
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21:38:27 <Ampera> I HA TE Y OU A LL <3
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21:41:19 <K> (indifference)
21:42:04 <Zsjoelfir> stop speaking of deliciousness while I am sitting here, starving
21:42:17 <Halcyon> Sorry Zsjoelfir surely it's lunch time soon?
21:42:28 <Ampera> I am abstaining from food for the day
21:42:30 <Ampera> and tomorrow
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21:42:36 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/08/27 13:42:35 where Ysjoelfir resides.
21:42:40 <Zsjoelfir> so, yes
21:42:41 <Zsjoelfir> it is
21:42:51 <Halcyon> What's lunch today?
21:42:53 <Zsjoelfir> but I don't have any, I will probably get some food in the train later
21:42:57 <Zsjoelfir> ^
21:43:00 <Halcyon> :(
21:43:09 <Zsjoelfir> yeah. its a bit meh
21:43:20 <Halcyon> I wish I could order you some
21:43:28 <Halcyon> (and secretly make it hot)
21:59:33 <jaymax> That's the way to do it Ampera
21:59:42 <Ampera> hello, how's my favorite canadian doing
22:00:56 <jaymax> Being salty - the caught fish need to be preserved soon enough
22:02:23 <jaymax> I still have a hangover of pleasant surprise from yesterday. I got Ghee recently, and WHY HAVE I NOT DONE THIS BEFORE?
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22:17:39 * jaymax looks on fiverr for a train passenger to unload some mace
22:18:16 <Halcyon> Hah
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22:36:20 <Zsjoelfir> Hahaha :D
22:36:59 <Ampera> I wonder whatever happened to MrMobodies
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22:58:02 * T3sl4 points jaymax to his batch of egg nog in need of some spice
22:58:39 * Ampera unleashes a fury of nutmeg upon T3sl4's nog
22:58:50 <T3sl4> \o/
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22:59:36 <T3sl4> tbh i never did get why "mace" is actually pepperspray, but actual-mace is just the husk from nutmeg and, as far as i know, similarly spicy in that way, not in the burning-hot way
23:00:27 <Ampera> mace is delicious
23:00:48 <Ampera> there's this thing called a marlborough apple pie, it's kinda like a newport apple pie, but without the menthol
23:01:02 <Ampera> jokes aside, it's basically shredded apple baked into a custard
23:01:05 <T3sl4> hmm, seems it's because it's a branding thing, but why they chose that idk
23:01:07 <Ampera> flavored with sherry and mace, it's delicious
23:01:12 <Ampera> I haven't made one in years, I need to again
23:01:16 <T3sl4> that sounds devilish, Ampera
23:01:57 <T3sl4> i wonder, how well the applebits stick together, i get the feeling they would ooze moisture on cooking and end up floating in mini pockets in the custard?
23:02:09 <T3sl4> but if that doesn't, in fact, happen, delightful indeed
23:02:36 <Ampera> no, it really is like a custard
23:02:42 <Ampera> almost like a hash brown in a way, but thicker
23:02:55 <Ampera> I forget the details of making it, I need to retrieve the recipe
23:03:03 <Ampera> afaik it came out of a cook's country magazine
23:03:44 <T3sl4> apples in general i think are underrated for cooking, though you also need a tougher kind that holds up under cooking
23:04:02 <T3sl4> they cook like potatoes, but faster, and sweeter
23:04:14 <Ampera> iirc the recipe called for granny smith and any generic red apple
23:04:35 <Ampera> but you could probably use most types of apples, a good cooking apple wouldn't be a bad idea
23:08:56 <T3sl4> yeah
23:14:55 <T3sl4> also asian pear, quite tough for eating but cooks nicely
23:16:04 <electrohead> o/
23:16:15 * Ampera hugs electrohead
23:16:16 <Ampera> how are you do
23:16:53 * T3sl4 slaps electrohead with a pear
23:17:13 * electrohead eats it
23:17:15 <electrohead> hey Ampera
23:17:18 <electrohead> I'm doing, you?
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23:22:46 <Ampera> I have a headache
23:22:49 <Ampera> and I am drinking tea
23:24:03 * electrohead sips his monster energy drink
23:24:24 <Ampera> it's tetley earl grey
23:24:32 <Ampera> it's not bad, sort of fruitier than the stash I normally have
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23:33:45 <T3sl4> mmm, tea
23:34:00 * T3sl4 bergamots Ampera around a bit
23:34:27 * electrohead adds biscuits
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23:39:02 <Ampera> electrohead, those better come with some damn good cream gravy
23:39:08 <electrohead> o/
23:39:16 <electrohead> meaty gravy
23:39:29 <electrohead> first time I ever had biscuits and gravy, was in military tech school
23:39:32 <electrohead> :o
23:39:37 <electrohead> I loved that shit so much
23:39:41 <Ampera> I have never actually had it
23:39:45 <Ampera> though I've had biscuits and I've had gravy
23:39:47 <Ampera> just not together
23:39:49 <Ampera> now I want some
23:39:52 <electrohead> got it every single day, for like.. a month straight? lol
23:39:58 <Ampera> lol why
23:40:04 <Ampera> was it just a cafeteria thing?
23:40:06 <electrohead> because it was amazing
23:40:10 <electrohead> ahh, yeah
23:42:25 <T3sl4> Ampera Halcyon: they finally invented ramen hot enough for you https://imgur.com/gallery/K69NdCR
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23:42:55 <T3sl4> electrohead: it may be shit on a shingle, but it sure is filling
23:45:01 <K> mrhead
23:46:14 <electrohead> <3
23:46:25 <electrohead> my mom used to make SOS all the time, growing up
23:51:20 <electrohead> mrk
23:52:37 <Ampera> never had it, but I'd easily enjoy it
23:52:48 * electrohead offers coffee
23:54:41 <T3sl4> real easy to make
23:58:54 <Ampera> well it's just bits of canned beef on toast with gravy, right?
23:59:26 <Nothing\> lol @ this website
23:59:33 <Nothing\> saying .dlls are exectuable files
23:59:52 <electrohead> canned beef is the quick way, I'd rather use non-canned beef
23:59:58 <Nothing\> if they're executable, why aren't they .exe then? HRM MR SMARTY PANTS
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