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00:00:07 <Nothing\> in a recent article
00:00:28 <Nothing\> but at least i got the local health unit's number, so i'm gonna call them and see if they have any suggestions
00:01:05 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1421 - Dumpster Hack https://t.co/6zgwpHNBRK
00:01:43 <Nothing\> mean time i'm gonna make a falling edge detector and a blinken lights circuit for my cats
00:02:34 <Nothing\> i made a standard light chaser circuit with a 4017 and they loved it, so i wanna make something with like 32 LEDs and 4 74hc595 chips
00:03:52 <Nothing\> i just worry when my cats are even around my when i'm working with electronics, never mind when they're actually playing with the electronics
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00:04:28 <Nothing\> they're circuit killing balls of static electricity as far as i'm concerned
00:04:33 <Nothing\> hey Sigyn
00:22:32 <Sigyn> howdy
00:30:22 <DHess_US> Look at how the trigger slope detector works on old oscilloscopes.
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00:34:33 * Ampera attack hugs T3sl4
00:34:35 <Ampera> er
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00:34:44 <Ampera> both equally good attack hug targets
00:34:46 <Ampera> how are you doing TheDude
00:36:01 <Nothing\> help Ampera
00:36:17 <Nothing\> i'm trying to find a site to download ds roms since emuparadise shut down
00:36:29 <Nothing\> it's like a minefield of shady sites and malware
00:36:51 <Ampera> the best way is not to pirate in the first place ;D
00:36:51 <Nothing\> you click a link to dl a rom and it tries to download a .exe
00:37:06 <Nothing\> kinda hard when the game isn't being made anymore
00:37:16 <Nothing\> actually
00:37:18 <Nothing\> you have a point
00:37:26 <Nothing\> i mean there IS a pc version
00:37:38 <Nothing\> and i'd be lying if i said it wasn't in my wishlist on steam
00:38:08 <Nothing\> so really it WOULD be pointless to pirate it on the DS, play for a couple of days until i get paid, then buy it on steam and start over
00:38:40 <Nothing\> point well taken, thanks Ampera
00:38:42 <Ampera> what game is it
00:38:57 <Nothing\> final fantasy II/IV
00:39:03 <Nothing\> the 3d remake
00:39:16 <Nothing\> which is the best remake of any game imo
00:39:45 <Ampera> https://store.steampowered.com/app/1173800/FINAL_FANTASY_IV/
00:39:46 <Ampera> this one?
00:39:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - FINAL FANTASY IV on Steam
00:40:01 <Nothing\> noooo no nonono
00:40:10 <Nothing\> that one they barely changed anything in it
00:40:25 <Ampera> do you have a link to the one on steam?
00:40:29 <Nothing\> i was so excited about it, it was just released a couple of weeks ago. I almost bought it on impulse
00:40:35 <Nothing\> i certainly do, one second
00:40:57 <Ampera> this one was released a couple of weeks ago
00:41:00 <Nothing\> but compare that, which is basically like the original, to what i link you to. big difference
00:41:20 <Nothing\> yeah, i was so excited about the release i almost bought it without even looking into it
00:41:25 <Ampera> looks 3D to me
00:41:27 <TheDude> hey
00:41:28 <Nothing\> cuz i figured i love the game anyways i can't go wrong
00:41:33 <Ampera> hi TheDude how are you
00:41:44 <TheDude> doing okay
00:41:44 <Nothing\> but then the comments said little to nothing has changed
00:41:49 <Nothing\> so i didn't bother with it
00:42:18 <Nothing\> here Ampera
00:42:20 <Nothing\> https://store.steampowered.com/app/312750/Final_Fantasy_IV_3D_Remake/
00:42:22 <EEVBot> [Title] - Final Fantasy IV (3D Remake) on Steam
00:42:48 <Ampera> that's the one you want?
00:42:52 <Nothing\> yup
00:43:00 <Nothing\> keep in mind it was meant for the ds
00:43:07 <Nothing\> original ds, not 3ds
00:43:24 <Nothing\> so it's about a 12 year old game meant for a portable console
00:43:37 <Nothing\> well, technically it's a 30 year old game but still
00:43:54 <Nothing\> this particular remake is 12 years old
00:44:13 <Nothing\> and they changed just about everything about it except the overall structure and storyline
00:44:58 <Nothing\> but even some of that was different because it's based on final fantasy iv, which was the japanese release. Where in north america it was released as final fantasy ii
00:45:11 <Nothing\> aww Ampera
00:45:14 <Nothing\> is this what i think it is
00:45:15 <Ampera> >:D
00:45:28 <Ampera> >opens it to find shower with your dad simulator
00:45:29 <Nothing\> awwww dude
00:45:37 <Nothing\> haha
00:45:44 <Nothing\> i actually already have that one
00:45:49 <Ampera> so do I
00:45:52 <Ampera> we can shower with our dad together
00:45:58 <Nothing\> it reminded me of that one atari game, custer's revenge
00:46:41 <Nothing\> where you're a cowboy and you have to screw the indian chick against a cactus (for some reason) while avoiding arrows raining down on you
00:47:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, seriously thanks man
00:47:09 <Ampera> <3
00:47:13 <Nothing\> i've had like an ear to ear grin on my face since seeing this
00:47:20 <Ampera> get well soon
00:47:36 <Nothing\> it means a lot cuz nobody's actually bought me a random gift like this without being obliged in.... i don't even remember
00:47:45 <Nothing\> especially not somebody who isn't family
00:48:12 <Ampera> I enjoy doing it on occasion now that I have the money and can
00:48:30 <Nothing\> Ampera, you reminded me of a nice deed i wanted to do
00:49:02 <Ampera> aww, are you gonna kill me?
00:49:09 <Ampera> that'd be so good of you
00:49:13 <Nothing\> there have been stories lately about people protesting outside of hospitals and nurses in ICUs being abused and cussed at etc by their covid patients who are unvaccinated and still denying they even have covid
00:50:02 <Nothing\> while simultaneously dealing with the protestors outside agitating other patients, like alzheimer's patients who don't understand what's happening. Or just keeping other patients awake or pissing off other ones etc
00:50:57 <Nothing\> so i was thinking i was gonna compile a list of maybe 10-20 such hospitals where the nurses are especially overworked and send them letters thanking them for what they're doing and urging them not to be discouraged and things of that nature
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00:51:52 <Nothing\> i figure they deal with so much shit every day, the least i could do is send them a nice letter as a way of saying thanks, keep up the awesome work
00:52:15 <Nothing\> cuz you read some of these stories and it really is horrible what these nurses have been going through
00:53:08 <Nothing\> i'll also throw $20 towards a charity i know is credible every so often
00:55:24 <Nothing\> i used to give $20 to actual homeless people but then i started getting suspicious of some of them
00:55:45 <Nothing\> like these ones i always see at intersections with nearly identical signs
00:56:09 <Nothing\> all written on scrap cardboard with the exact same message on them, verbatim in many cases
00:56:29 <Nothing\> so i figure it's gotta be some sort of racket
00:56:48 <Nothing\> and i know pan handlers can make more than working folks if they choose a good spot
00:57:50 <Nothing\> wait a minute Ampera
00:57:55 <Nothing\> i know why you bought me this
00:57:58 <Ampera> you do?
00:58:03 <Nothing\> you bought me this so i'll stop talking
00:58:05 <Nothing\> lol
00:58:06 <Ampera> no
00:58:10 <Ampera> I bought it because you wanted it
00:58:14 <Nothing\> i know, i'm kidding <3
00:58:22 <Ampera> if I wanted you to stop talking I could just ban you
00:58:26 <Nothing\> you bought it cuz you're awesome
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01:09:04 <Nothing\> awesome
01:09:21 <Nothing\> i got an appointment for my jab
01:09:36 <Nothing\> oh yeah, you hear they made a brand name for the pfizer vaccine now?
01:09:55 <Nothing\> they're calling it, and i'm probably misspelling this, komirnity
01:10:34 <Nothing\> pronounced koh-mrrrr-nit-tee
01:11:14 <Nothing\> it's supposed to be a portmanteau of 4 different words, covid, something, immunity and community? i forget
01:11:25 <Nothing\> but it's the dumbest brand name in the history of brand names
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01:16:58 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ASQQboFg98
01:16:59 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: [1365] Goodbye to BosnianBill…
01:17:04 <Ampera> Bosnian Bill has retired from YouTube.
01:17:19 <watcher> sad
01:17:33 <Ampera> He's the reason I wanted to try lockpicking in the first place.
01:17:34 <watcher> will watch it now
01:17:38 <Ampera> lol
01:24:07 <watcher> strangs that lpl needs to make a video that bosnianbill is retired most times you do that on your onw channel
01:24:39 <Ampera> They know each other personally, so I imagine BB just didn't want to make a video and call it ends
01:24:52 <watcher> maybe
01:24:54 <Ampera> I'm sure he'll be back at some point, nobody ever truly quits YouTube until the die or get arrested.
01:25:02 <Ampera> *they
01:25:18 <watcher> germantoolsreviews
01:28:00 <watcher> after 2 years o (themperaly retireing) there is nu new video on his channel
01:28:05 <watcher> https://www.youtube.com/c/GermanToolReviews/videos
01:32:26 <Ampera> ew, windows
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07:52:20 <StupidLikeAFox> Ampera: Just saw that video before I tabbed over here.
07:52:35 <Ampera> ok
07:52:39 <Ampera> and how is that my fault
07:52:58 <StupidLikeAFox> Yeah, I have to imgaine he'll do a video every blue moon- but his reasons seem sound enough
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07:53:10 <StupidLikeAFox> when did I imply you were at fault? :P
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07:53:57 <Ampera> when did you imply that I wasn't?
07:54:02 <Ampera> tell me that with your facts and your logic
07:54:04 <StupidLikeAFox> ...
07:54:45 <StupidLikeAFox> Aight, just forget I said anything.
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07:56:15 <hsn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave
07:56:17 <EEVBot> [Title] - Zenneck wave - Wikipedia
07:58:18 <StupidLikeAFox> to anybody feeling less obtuse: 8 and 3.2ohm speakers seem pretty standard for radios, but 11 ohm is a new one on me
07:58:40 <StupidLikeAFox> this siren/PA module calls out for an 11 ohm 100 watt speaker on it's wiring diagram
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08:52:35 <DHess_US> Speaking of Bosnian Bill, This Old Tony hasn't posted any videos for a while either.
09:11:32 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @mikelectricstuf: @live_munro Dumbest idea since solar roadways
09:32:27 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @kenshirriff: This Agilent logic analyzer has a mood. https://t.co/z843Sp3FuE
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10:27:26 <T3sl4> ain't no river wide enough, to keep me from loving Ampera
10:27:39 <Ampera> that's a shame
10:27:43 <Ampera> good thing there's oceans
10:29:57 * T3sl4 gives Ampera a few dates
10:30:16 * Ampera gets T3sl4 right in the plums
10:30:22 <T3sl4> i picked up a 2lb box of them that cought my fancy
10:31:12 <Ampera> dates?
10:31:27 <T3sl4> medjool
10:32:18 * Ampera attacks T3sl4 with an elton john record
10:32:38 <Ampera> that'll teach you and your crocodile cock.
10:32:41 * T3sl4 beans Ampera with a queen cd
10:33:25 <Ampera> how are you doing T3sl4
10:33:36 <T3sl4> good :)
10:33:54 <Ampera> I wanted to go to bed at 6
10:33:58 <T3sl4> aside from the record lodged in my skull, ow
10:34:01 <Ampera> I think I managed about 45 minutes
10:34:18 <T3sl4> :(
10:34:29 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
10:34:35 <Ampera> I wish I didn't have to sleep at all
10:36:34 <T3sl4> gotta sleep to live
10:36:36 <T3sl4> ironic
11:14:09 * T3sl4 gets steve30 some chinese https://imgur.com/gallery/KX89mSf
11:17:29 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://imgur.com/gallery/7sul8EZ
11:17:29 <EEVBot> [Title] - Love you, goodnight - Album on Imgur
11:17:41 <Ampera> <3
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12:40:48 <Halcyon> Mew
12:40:50 <Halcyon> Herro Ampera
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12:40:54 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
12:41:35 <Halcyon> I'm doing good, I just had a nap
12:42:29 <Ampera> that's good
12:42:38 <Ampera> tomorrow I am smoking chicken
12:43:02 <Halcyon> Yummy
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13:07:19 <T3sl4> hi
13:21:59 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @ReutersScience: Pfizer said it has started a large study testing its investigational oral antiviral drug for the prevention of COVID-19…
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13:55:05 <Nothing\> when compiling a program in dev c++ i just noticed a curious line in the output
13:55:10 <Nothing\> - Output Size: 1.83208656311035 MiB
13:56:09 <Nothing\> as far as i can figure, 1.832086 would be 1,832,086 bytes
13:56:16 <Nothing\> so what's with the rest of the precision?
13:56:46 <Nothing\> well i guess you could have less than a byte, i was thinking of bits
13:57:15 <Nothing\> but even divided by 8, i think that level of precision would still work out to less than 1 bit
13:59:58 <Nothing\> yeah, 22,901,082.038879375... bibits?
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14:30:41 <steve30> hi
14:30:48 * steve30 meows at T3sl4
14:32:53 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
14:36:43 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Next video will be done with Davinci Resolve, hopefully... It'll be either success or they take me away in a straig… https://t.co/Y9K8BPuIul
14:38:18 <steve30> Whenever i look at a twitter page, there are three options; "sign up with google", "sign up with apple", and "sign up with phone or email".
14:38:28 <steve30> Sometimes the Apple option is greyed out, but not always.
14:38:29 <T3sl4> i disabled cookies and that fixed it
14:38:41 <steve30> The other two never seem greyed out.
14:50:37 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Oh FFS. First problem. Audio glitches on my playback, like pop-pop-pop.
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14:54:05 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Google says something to do with audio caching... FFS, this is basic stuff.
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14:55:49 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I bet it's this. The timeline frame rate differs from my project frame rate. And what's the BS about you CAN'T UNDO… https://t.co/FBvF5k3HDY
14:59:18 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Yep, change the 24fps and it work fine. a) Why the hell can't I change the timeline frame rate after I start? b) Wh… https://t.co/PioyK5UpCS
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15:16:41 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Oh FFS, I have to do this to change a basic frame rate setting. https://t.co/dVWO3tC1OU
15:37:32 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - This will be my universal bitch thread for Davinci. Next complaint, this horrible looking timecode font, it's almos… https://t.co/mtCZzhOg31
15:37:47 <T3sl4> as if that weren't evident half a dozen tweets ago
16:19:56 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/toptalent/comments/pwskrq/cheese_gromit/
16:19:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - Reddit - Dive into anything
16:28:43 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
16:28:43 Set By: (Halcyon) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:27 2020
17:13:14 <steve30> i made it to tesco
17:32:46 <MrMobodies> Hello
17:33:01 <MrMobodies> Just discovered Google tryin an experiment
17:33:19 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/AACD1tX.jpg
17:34:51 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/85uq3hS.jpg
17:35:15 <MrMobodies> It didn' do it on another browser and computer running he same browser
17:35:25 <MrMobodies> cleared cache it stopped but can't find that same layou
17:35:35 <MrMobodies> and it seemed very slow when it was doing that
17:35:41 <MrMobodies> the fading and flashing
17:35:57 <MrMobodies> and I find very annoying
17:36:14 <MrMobodies> hiding the ###stev-9 just kills the results but doesn't seem to be there anymore
17:36:56 <MrMobodies> Noticed it happening intermittently yesteday then permanently until clearing the cache maybe they withdrew it after a while
17:45:57 <K> hello armatures
17:46:05 <T3sl4> hi stator
17:46:48 <MrMobodies> My left ear seems blocked
17:46:54 <MrMobodies> for a couple of days now
17:47:01 <MrMobodies> I can' pop out it like my right ear
17:47:12 <MrMobodies> but I had a cold last week that seems to be going slowly
17:47:16 <K> ear-flu
17:47:24 <K> not a joke
17:47:30 <MrMobodies> welL i hope it would clear
17:47:33 <MrMobodies> no pain though
17:47:48 <MrMobodies> in 2010 I had an infection and needed anti biotics
17:48:06 <MrMobodies> where I could sleep for 2 days
17:48:21 <MrMobodies> but the aggravation I had at the clinic waiting to see the doctor and saw a nurse who said to chew bubble gum and refuse to inspect it
17:48:26 <MrMobodies> I refused to leave
17:48:37 <MrMobodies> she accused me of being violent
17:48:55 <MrMobodies> I said I wasn't surprised witht he amount of warning stickers about abuse to staff will not be tollerated
17:49:05 <MrMobodies> but I wasn't abusive, just in a lot of pain
17:49:26 <MrMobodies> the nurse inspect my ear and agreed it was swollen
17:49:40 <MrMobodies> prescrible me these crystal things you put in a bowl of hot water
17:49:53 <MrMobodies> and if it becomes worse she'll prescribe anti biotics
17:50:07 <MrMobodies> it was a walk in clinic as my GP was shut on the weekends
17:50:31 <MrMobodies> My GP said she should have prescribe me the antibiotics
17:50:42 <MrMobodies> as it got much worse during the week
17:52:07 <MrMobodies> I think a this walk in polyclinic, I waited 2 hours and there were 10 patients, I think and 1 nurse serving and (i see the patients going into one room) but was promised a doctor at the counter.
17:52:30 <MrMobodies> but I was glad I didn't need hospital treatment that would involve longer waits
17:53:36 <steve30> i went to the walk in clinic in 2010. Only had to wait 10 minutes.
17:53:47 <MrMobodies> that's fast
17:53:56 <steve30> But they said they tended to get busier later on when the schools come out
17:54:40 <MrMobodies> my last GP before I moved, I had to wait an hour but they spent quality time inspecting and inquring about my health
17:54:45 <MrMobodies> they were Indians
17:55:44 <MrMobodies> and the husband liked explaining everything in detail when I had a bad cold and chest infection
17:56:14 <MrMobodies> how it gets blocked and how mediciations he could could prescibe worked to clear stuff
17:56:52 <MrMobodies> but he often complained about the goverment restrict access to certain mediciation because it can be brought cheaply off the counter
17:57:09 <MrMobodies> which was beside the points that some patients need stronger medication
17:57:43 <MrMobodies> I think he said it was something to do witht he clinical commisioning groups
17:57:51 <MrMobodies> and they'd have to see a specialist to around it
17:58:10 <MrMobodies> unless the patient had a health condition and was always prescribed it.
17:58:52 <MrMobodies> I think it was the GalPseud Plus cough medicine he gave me his last amount and told me to use it sparingly
17:59:25 <MrMobodies> it ran out last year February when I caught what I now believe was COVID.
18:00:04 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I interrupted my Davinci editing to go back to Vegas for a quick video on the Tesla Victoria Big Battery fire repor… https://t.co/24SUJ6kGlu
18:00:09 <MrMobodies> he said he was worried that he could get fined for doing the right things.
18:01:12 <steve30> that's the NHS for you
18:49:20 <hsn> So today's news .. macron france guy won another egg?
18:49:58 <hsn> Lemon could u not throw lemons .. eggs arent that cool?
19:00:59 <K> takes less time to produce an egg
19:09:15 <hsn> Make sense lol
20:59:14 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @roodave: Tesla Megapack "big battery" fire in Victoria (30th July 2021) findings summary (video by @eevblog) https://t.co/hFWpq22mgH a…
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22:27:48 <Nothing\> man, i'm starting to think these cannabis extract cartridges are an even greater waste of money than cannabis
22:27:49 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
22:27:58 <Nothing\> i'm spending damn near $50 a day on these things :/
22:28:04 <Nothing\> hey Ampera!
22:28:09 * Nothing\ double hugs Ampera
22:28:11 <Ampera> how are you doing nowhere man?
22:28:19 <Nothing\> one for yesterday, i saw one but i missed it
22:28:35 <Nothing\> i'm alright, cold like every morning for some reason but otherwise good
22:28:57 <Nothing\> btw thanks for that game again, i spent a good couple of hours binging last night
22:29:22 <Nothing\> turns out they tweaked some features for the PC version so that was a nice surprise
22:29:44 <Nothing\> and the graphics held up surprisingly well for a DS port being played on 4k
22:29:50 <K> 50$ a day on anything is prolly too much
22:30:15 <Nothing\> k: yeah i mean i limit it to one every few days cuz it's just not practical to buy one every day
22:30:33 <Nothing\> but that's almost what i was spending on dilaudid when i was addicted to it. before i went on methadone
22:30:34 <Ampera> today I start smoking
22:30:42 <Nothing\> that stuff i was spending $500 a week on
22:30:57 <Nothing\> my trick was i'd get cash advances on my credit card
22:31:09 <Nothing\> lol then my grandfather paid off my credit card for me when i maxed it out
22:31:15 <Nothing\> so i went and maxed it out again
22:31:41 <K> Ampera, is the smoke comming from your ears?
22:31:44 <Nothing\> wound up just defaulting and going into hiding and now the statute of limitations has made the debt null and void
22:32:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, well just so long as you don't full out combust
22:32:19 <Nothing\> Ampera, it doesn't look like many people liked this game very much based on the achievements
22:32:29 <Ampera> no I'm serious, gonna try smoking today
22:32:39 <Nothing\> Ampera, don't
22:32:43 <Nothing\> trust me, you won't like it
22:32:49 <Nothing\> and it's not worth the risk of addiction
22:33:00 <Nothing\> EVERYBODY gets sick their first time smoking
22:33:07 <Ampera> you don't even know what I'm going to be smoking
22:33:11 <Nothing\> it's an inevitable fact of life
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22:33:15 <Nothing\> true, i do not
22:33:28 <Nothing\> but when one says smoking generally it's implied to be tobacco
22:33:32 <Ampera> I'm smoking chicken.
22:33:39 <Nothing\> that's why i told my mom i should light up a joint in a walmart
22:33:47 <Nothing\> cuz all of the no smoking signs say no smoking or vaping
22:33:56 <Nothing\> and the no-smoking bylaws only apply to cigarettes
22:33:58 <Nothing\> and vaping
22:34:08 <Nothing\> but the thing i wonder about vaping
22:34:25 <Nothing\> i'm able to vape without exhaling anything. at least nothing visible
22:34:33 <Ampera> It has the opposite effect that a fine cigar does.
22:34:40 <Nothing\> but if i hold it long enough it just condenses in my lungs and nothing comes out
22:34:41 <Ampera> Instead of making you look cooler, it makes you look like a dickhead.
22:34:54 <Nothing\> so i use that trick to vape in places where i can't vape
22:34:54 <Ampera> and I can't see any other reason why you'd want to smoke
22:35:22 <Nothing\> Ampera, honestly i did it because 1. i could and 2. i honestly felt cool doing it
22:35:35 <Ampera> are you cool?
22:35:53 <Nothing\> but i started cuz i went to cuba when i was 12 and found they'd sell me packs of this brand called hollywoods for $1 each
22:35:56 <Nothing\> or marlboros for $2
22:36:04 <Nothing\> which, i dunno how they got marlboros in cuba
22:36:05 <Ampera> among my stranger dreams are the ones where I have a desperate need and want to smoke a cigarette
22:36:11 <Nothing\> we don't even get marlboros in canada
22:36:21 <Ampera> I have no desire to do it in the waking world
22:36:35 <Ampera> just the unconscious version of me has a predisposition towards tobacco for some reason
22:37:06 <Nothing\> dammit
22:37:19 <Nothing\> talking about the cuban trade embargo's making me wanna watch scarface
22:37:23 <Ampera> watch your fucking mouth
22:37:26 <Nothing\> which you should totally watch if you haven't
22:37:35 <Nothing\> Ampera, okay castor troy
22:37:51 <Nothing\> i seriously read that in nicholas cage's voice
22:37:58 <Ampera> I have no idea who or what any of these things are
22:38:44 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's something a character nicholas cage played in a mediocre but nostalgic action movie by john woo from the 90's called face off
22:38:59 <Ampera> you're losing me harder
22:39:08 <Nothing\> it's a great cornball
22:39:15 <Ampera> I don't know what that is either
22:39:25 <Ampera> am I awake right now?
22:39:41 <Nothing\> as the name implies it's about a cop who goes undercover in a prison as the guy he put away to get information from his friends
22:39:41 <Ampera> reality is making less sense than usual
22:39:48 <Nothing\> and to go really undercover they take his face
22:39:50 <Nothing\> OFF
22:39:54 <Nothing\> as they say in the movie
22:40:00 <Nothing\> you've gotta emphasize the OFF
22:40:14 <Nothing\> and replace it with the face of the guy he arrested
22:40:18 <Ampera> so either the US has decided to end all of its active deployments, china has stopped abusing human rights, and the UN has declared world peace
22:40:21 <Ampera> or I'm asleep right now
22:40:46 <Nothing\> cuz that's totally legal and every police department has funding and resources to perform CIAesque operations like that
22:41:06 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah it was really an awesome movie in its day but hasn't aged well at all
22:41:32 <Nothing\> actually it'd make a really good umm... oh what's that thing the guys from mst3k do now...
22:41:36 <Nothing\> rifftrax!
22:41:39 <Nothing\> that's it
22:42:03 <Nothing\> ah god bless rifftrax. The only way I can watch horrible cult movies.
22:42:23 <Nothing\> hey lemme ask you something Ampera
22:42:34 <Ampera> if you must
22:42:36 <Nothing\> on steam, do you ever see it when i play a game or come online or anything like that?
22:42:46 <Ampera> maybe
22:42:56 <Nothing\> hrm it makes me uncomfortable
22:43:02 <Ampera> I have like 80 inches horizontal worth of monitor
22:43:04 <Nothing\> i don't like people knowing when i'm online
22:43:09 <Nothing\> lol nice
22:43:19 <Ampera> and steam notifications are tiny blips in the bottom right of one of them that stays around for a few seconds
22:43:23 <Ampera> so I really don't pay attention muhc
22:43:24 <Nothing\> lol dude that reminds me of when i got my first 21in monitor
22:43:39 <Ampera> my largest is a 49" (diagonal) monitor
22:43:40 <Nothing\> i'd sit a foot away from it cuz my eyes suck and i won't wear my glasses
22:43:57 <Nothing\> and i was in awe at how i actually had to turn my head to see the full display
22:44:07 <Nothing\> i'd never had to do that with a display before that
22:44:23 <Nothing\> meanwhile now, i sit about 2.5 feet from a 55in tv
22:44:30 <Nothing\> so my vision's clearly getting worse
22:44:32 <Ampera> my full desktop resolution is 8480x1080
22:44:45 <Ampera> mmm
22:44:49 <Ampera> peach flavoured black tea
22:45:01 <Nothing\> how can you see anything? I mean even using upscaling there are some games that just don't scale enough for 4k
22:45:37 <Nothing\> or the worst is trying to find the upscaling setting. Searching through microscopic menus to find that one option IF it's even there
22:46:27 <Ampera> I see things with my eyes
22:46:32 <Ampera> I have 4 monitors
22:46:43 <Ampera> the total resolution of my desktop is 8480x1080
22:46:49 <Nothing\> ah fuck
22:47:01 <Ampera> which is all the horizontal components of the monitor summed, and then the greatest vertical component
22:47:02 <Nothing\> you just reminded me i still need to buy a display to hdmi adapter
22:47:12 <Nothing\> so i can get dual tvs on this bastard
22:47:17 <Ampera> my center monitor, which I use for games, is 3840x1080
22:47:20 <Nothing\> i've still got a 40in tv upstairs that needs using
22:47:22 <Ampera> or 2xHD
22:47:29 <Ampera> with an aspect ratio of 32:9
22:47:45 <Nothing\> i figure it'd be nice having a dual display cuz then i can have my programming stuff on one screen, and the documentation on the other screen
22:48:56 <Nothing\> instead of either flipping back and forth. Or lately I've just taken to tiling the windows, but that's a pain because windows doesn't do it automatically and with the gesture commands where you move a window to the side and it'll maximize horizontally and stuff like that, it's impossible to move a window flush against the top, bottom or sides of the screen
22:49:04 <Ampera> because one of my monitors is 32:9, I effectively have 5 displays
22:49:14 <Ampera> and I do use them all
22:49:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah i think skinnier aspect ratios is the way of the future
22:49:36 <Ampera> 5:4 > all
22:49:48 <Nothing\> i mean if you think about it, you're not looking up and down on a monitor a lot
22:49:51 <Nothing\> except for reading
22:50:05 <Nothing\> that's my only problem is it makes reading a bit more cumbersome
22:51:02 <Nothing\> it's kind of a catch 22 on a mobile device because you get enough horizontal space to actually view a full line of text without it being chopped up. But then you can only view 4 lines at a time.
22:51:37 <Nothing\> and man, wtf @ android
22:51:47 <Nothing\> my mom's old phone used to have an option to broadcast to the TV
22:51:53 <Nothing\> now for some reason the new one doesn't
22:52:03 <Nothing\> actually they removed a lot of really useful features
22:52:16 <Nothing\> like being able to turn my phone on by tapping the screen twice
22:52:40 <Nothing\> although fingerprint recognition has made that obsolete. I dunno how I ever got by without fingerprint recognition.
22:54:10 <Nothing\> doesn't work at all like i thought it would. I figured they'd just use a touch screen with a really high resolution and just use that.
22:54:23 <Nothing\> But it's some sort of, i'm guessing capacitance sensor in the power button
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22:57:56 <Nothing\> hrm i didn't ration as much ejuice for myself as i wanted
22:58:06 <Nothing\> damn you past-Nothing\
22:58:12 <Nothing\> he's always one step ahead of me!
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23:00:43 <Ampera> Nothing\, do you like nightmares?
23:02:58 <Nothing\> if i did, i'd be in heaven
23:03:08 <Ampera> :/
23:03:13 <Ampera> nobody likes nightmares
23:03:14 <Ampera> I don't get it
23:03:24 <Ampera> I love them, but never really get to experience them
23:03:25 <Nothing\> i never got the connection to horses
23:03:42 <Nothing\> like why are they called nightMARES
23:03:51 <Ampera> I hate you.
23:03:51 <Nothing\> what's a female horse have to do with it?
23:04:01 <Ampera> like, a lot
23:04:05 <Nothing\> lol
23:04:55 <Nothing\> that's like my cousin naming his son jackson
23:05:02 <Nothing\> so i ask him, who the hell is jack?
23:05:17 <Nothing\> he was all confused, so explained jackson literally mean's jack's son
23:05:22 <Ampera> jackson is a last name
23:05:28 <Nothing\> so who's jack and why are you fathering his kid?
23:05:35 <Nothing\> it's a first name too
23:05:52 <Nothing\> but yeah, i guess that's more in the context of a surname isn't it
23:06:11 <Nothing\> like before they had surnames and you were just known as like "john, son of bob"
23:06:21 <Nothing\> or "jim of essex"
23:07:11 <Nothing\> or there were the job based names, like chandler, taylor, schwarz, etc
23:07:31 <Nothing\> wait
23:07:35 <Nothing\> i'm thinking of sneider
23:07:40 <Nothing\> not schwarz
23:07:52 <Nothing\> schwarz is black
23:09:06 * Ampera starts burning things
23:09:24 <Ampera> I see you're enjoying the game I got you >:D
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23:10:46 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
23:10:53 <Halcyon> Ello
23:10:57 <Ampera> you're up late
23:11:12 <Halcyon> I just finished work and back in my accommodation
23:12:07 <Ampera> how are you doing
23:12:26 <Halcyon> Not too bad. How are you?
23:12:48 <Ampera> waiting for there to be something for me to do at work
23:12:53 <Ampera> plenty of stuff for me to do
23:12:55 <Ampera> I just can't do any of it
23:12:59 <Ampera> aeiou
23:13:50 <Halcyon> Aw
23:20:15 <Halcyon> What's been happening?
23:22:04 <Ampera> environmental issues
23:22:24 <Ampera> the project I'm on has a lot of moving parts, and if everything's not set up exactly right, I can't do anything
23:22:35 <Ampera> and much of that is in the hands of other people
23:24:36 <Halcyon> *hugs*
23:25:17 <Nothing\> mmm cream of brocolli soup
23:25:20 <Nothing\> er
23:25:27 <Halcyon> Yummy
23:25:33 <Nothing\> cream of lieutenant broccoli soup
23:25:39 <Nothing\> lol
23:25:50 <Halcyon> I'm not sure how to take that :P
23:26:06 <Nothing\> oh it's just a packet, one of the knorr brand soups
23:26:18 <Nothing\> they're not too hearty, but very creamy
23:26:42 <Nothing\> i never understood the point of soups that don't have a lot of other ingredients
23:26:51 <Nothing\> like those campbell's soups
23:27:01 <Nothing\> it's just food flavoured liquid
23:27:07 <Nothing\> how is that filling?
23:27:28 <electrohead> o/
23:27:29 <Nothing\> i'd get the same sensation from drinking a glass of water with a spoonfull of salt
23:27:32 * electrohead hugs Halcyon's face
23:27:32 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
23:27:37 <electrohead> hey mate
23:27:40 * Nothing\ hugs electrohead
23:27:44 * electrohead hugs Nothing\
23:27:49 <Nothing\> how you doing?
23:27:52 <Halcyon> Hey buddy :)
23:28:11 <Nothing\> ugh my prostate feels weird
23:28:14 <electrohead> tired, waking up, inhaling caffeine
23:28:17 <electrohead> o.O
23:28:22 <Nothing\> i've been getting it a lot lately, i'm wondering if it's swollen
23:28:22 <electrohead> stop fisting yourself?
23:28:30 <Nothing\> it doesn't hurt but it's uncomfortable as hell
23:28:40 <Halcyon> Nothing\, I don't know what a "weird" protate feels like?
23:28:48 <Halcyon> Maybe go see a doctor if you're concerned?
23:29:00 <Nothing\> Halcyon, my doctor only does phone appointments
23:29:03 <Nothing\> for literally everything
23:29:08 <Nothing\> it's fucking stupid
23:29:08 <electrohead> you need a new doctor, then
23:29:11 <Nothing\> and cowardly
23:29:18 <Halcyon> Well how are you supposed to get your prostate checked then?
23:29:19 <Nothing\> he's supposed to be a front line worker
23:29:24 <Nothing\> and here he is hiding at home
23:29:37 <Halcyon> Find another doctor?
23:29:41 <Nothing\> trying to diagnose my torn rotatorcuff over the phone
23:29:47 <Nothing\> Halcyon, doctors are in short supply
23:29:53 <Halcyon> Mmm
23:29:54 <Nothing\> especially with covid
23:30:06 <Nothing\> and most of them are only doing phone appointments
23:30:15 <Halcyon> Well I'm not sure what options you have
23:30:19 <Nothing\> which is stupid because my shrink STOPPED phone appointments a month ago
23:30:25 <Nothing\> and his office is right in the hospital
23:30:34 <Nothing\> so the doctor i don't need to see, demands to see me
23:30:45 <Nothing\> while the doctor i DO Need to see, refuses to see me
23:30:51 <Nothing\> what sense does that make
23:31:01 <Nothing\> Halcyon, i have none
23:31:08 <Nothing\> except maybe to go to the ER but screw that
23:31:08 <Halcyon> Can you tell them you have anxiety because of your medical concern and they can give you a referral to someone who will actully see you?
23:31:37 <Nothing\> nah they'll only refer to specialists and even then they can't tell you whether they're actually seeing people in person or not
23:31:52 <Nothing\> you can't get a referal to another GP because that'd be taking money out of their pockets
23:32:01 <Halcyon> Well that sucks
23:32:06 <Nothing\> that'd be like asking your mechanic if he knows of a better mechanic
23:32:15 <Nothing\> yah really
23:33:05 <Nothing\> and get this, eyecare isn't covered by our provincial healthcare anymore because optometrists won't deal with them anymore since they were only getting paid about half of what appointments cost them
23:33:14 <Nothing\> so you can't use provincial insurance for eyecare
23:33:29 <Nothing\> but there's also a law (for some reason) that you can't pay out of pocket for eyecare
23:33:37 <Nothing\> so basically all of ontario is without eyecare
23:33:38 <Halcyon> I don't bother with private health, but then again, if you're relatively healthy, there is no real point to having it
23:34:39 <Nothing\> i keep telling my american friends
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23:34:47 <Nothing\> just because healthcare's free, doesn't mean it's good
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23:35:04 <Halcyon> Oops
23:35:34 <Halcyon> I would have thought Canada's healthcare would be fairly decent... but then again, I don't know much about Canaa
23:35:38 <Halcyon> Canada
23:38:26 <Nothing\> nah our healthcare's been shit since at least the mid 90's
23:38:43 <Nothing\> it's gotten better, i'll give them that but it's still far from what it should be
23:39:10 <Nothing\> there used to be a huge doctor shortage because they weren't being paid enough, so i went almost 10 years without a family doctor
23:39:31 <Nothing\> or i've waited in excess of 18 hours to see a doctor in a&e
23:40:02 <Nothing\> or again in a&e i've found myself in a bed in the hall way because there were no rooms available
23:40:20 <Nothing\> that night felt like something out of a movie. They were so busy, there musta been a big accident somewhere.
23:40:44 <Nothing\> or even just going to a walk-in clinic you'd be liable to wait 2-3 hours to see somebody
23:41:07 <Nothing\> thankfully these days i'm literally just in and out when i see my doctor. When he DID come to the office
23:41:27 <Nothing\> even my methadone doctor, i rarely wait more than half an hour.
23:42:07 <Nothing\> usually with him il'l just check in, do my drug test, then go out for a coffee and by the time i get back it's time to see him and if i missed my turn, the nurses give me priority cuz they're awesome like that.
23:42:14 <Halcyon> That sucks to hear :(
23:42:29 <Nothing\> where other places, if you're out when they call you, you go back to the end of the queue
23:42:45 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yeah but i literally thank god i'm not american
23:43:03 <Nothing\> i've been reading that their system is either on the brink of collapse, or is already there
23:43:16 <Halcyon> Yeh I don't know much about their system either
23:43:52 <Nothing\> i read an editorial about a guy in texas who had a swollen pancreas from gallstones, which is a very treatable condition. Just requires routine surgery and an overnight stay in the ICU.
23:44:08 <Nothing\> but they couldn't find an ICU bed for him because of all of the COVID patients
23:44:20 <Nothing\> and he wound up dying while he was waiting for surgery
23:45:27 <Nothing\> the author of the piece was saying when somebody dies of a very treatable condition in the middle of a major metropolitan area with a hospital that has the facilities to carry out said treatment, the system's already broken
23:45:43 <Halcyon> I'd have to agree with that
23:46:06 <Nothing\> meanwhile here i hear about nurses in ICUs being abused by COVID patients who are anti-vaxxers and don't believe they have covid
23:46:19 <Nothing\> they're being overworked because so many are quitting, there's a huge shortage
23:46:40 <Nothing\> actually the nurse and doctor shortage is so bad here, they're epediting the graduation of medschool students so we can have more doctors
23:46:50 <Nothing\> so they're letting the doctors and nurses graduate early
23:46:54 <Halcyon> As long as the quality doesn't suffer
23:47:02 <Nothing\> they were even letting criminals out of prison to stop the spread
23:47:09 <Nothing\> myself included, thank god
23:47:17 <Nothing\> i only served 10 days of a 3 month sentence lol
23:47:35 <Halcyon> Was this that assault thing?
23:47:39 <Nothing\> yeah
23:48:00 <Nothing\> i tell you man, despite how stressful it was, it worked out soooooo much better than i ever could have imagined
23:48:13 <K> the jail?
23:48:20 <Halcyon> I'm glad
23:48:21 <Nothing\> like, so well that it was the straw that broke the camel's back when it came to my accepting God into my life
23:48:27 <Nothing\> K: yup
23:48:32 <Halcyon> Ahhh you're religious now?
23:48:39 <Nothing\> Halcyon, i am and i'm not
23:48:59 <Halcyon> I am not religious at all, never have been, never will.
23:49:05 <Halcyon> Most Australia's aren't religious
23:49:23 <Nothing\> i would say i'm pious and i enjoy the bible. There are parts of it which genuinely bring my comfort and joy in times of trouble. Even though i don't believe in it, or in christ.
23:49:26 <Halcyon> *Australians
23:49:38 <Nothing\> I still think they're stories with worthy messages
23:49:41 <Nothing\> some of them, anyways
23:49:49 <Halcyon> Sure, I can accept that
23:49:59 <Nothing\> i dunno what to think about lot's daughter's getting him trashed then raping him so they can have children
23:50:26 <Nothing\> or the absence of any wives in the lives of cain and abel
23:50:41 <K> tough love
23:50:45 <Nothing\> unless they did it with eve
23:50:56 <Nothing\> cuz she woulda been the only female on earth at the time
23:51:15 <Nothing\> though some scholars think cain and abel may have had wives or concubines that were just never mentioned
23:51:16 <Halcyon> I guess that point of moot because that's not how it happened :P
23:51:30 <Nothing\> or that there was a race of lesser humans who interbred with cain and abel
23:51:59 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yeah i don't believe in the christian cosmogeny either
23:52:31 <Nothing\> it raises some interesting questions about the story though
23:53:09 <Nothing\> but yeah i mean my conversion didn't exactly happen overnight
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23:53:53 <Nothing\> it was something that had been in my mind for years prior to my actual conversion, i'd been wondering for quite some time and noticing things and having certain experiences i wouldn't expect anyone to understand on account of them being so personal and subjective
23:54:30 <Halcyon> Fair enough
23:54:40 <Nothing\> but after my arrest and how absolutely and utterly perfect everything went down in exactly the right way that everything turned out the best it possibly could have, given the circumstances
23:54:47 <Nothing\> save for the charges being dropped all together
23:54:53 <Halcyon> Indeed
23:54:55 <Nothing\> i just couldn't deny it anymore
23:55:17 <Nothing\> part of it was letting my pride down because my pride kept my from accepting it for a long time
23:55:39 <Nothing\> that and the association i'd built up between god and organized religion, in particular catholocism
23:55:59 <Nothing\> once i realized they've merely usurped his name, the idea of a god was MUCH more pallatable
23:56:44 <Nothing\> and then there were many other experiences like the arrest, but not nearly as significant on their own
23:57:11 <Nothing\> it was a much more complicated process than most people make it out to be
23:57:40 <Nothing\> then i was really disillusioned by the fact that my life didn't magically get better like you always hear born again christians talking about
23:58:03 <Nothing\> i went into it expecting god would fix everything for me like they said, but that's not how it is at all
23:58:18 <Nothing\> instead it's more like i work as a team with God, ie god only helps those who help themselves
23:58:40 <Nothing\> so he help me, he makes things easier for me, but ultimately it's up to me to make the choice to do the thing
23:58:58 <Nothing\> and to put some sort of effort into it. carry my weight.
23:59:14 <Nothing\> instead of just resting on my laurels and expecting god to do everything for me
23:59:42 <Nothing\> mind you this is all just stuff which is largely speculation based on my own subjective experiences
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