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00:01:06 Join: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) to #EEVblog
00:04:17 <Nothing\> man i got ripped off
00:04:44 <Nothing\> i got this "vape pen" for cannabis extracts. But it's just a battery
00:05:29 <Nothing\> the extracts come in disposable cartridges that already have the coil, a ceramic mouthpiece and everything built into it
00:06:03 <Nothing\> so i was thinking i coulda just bought the cartridges and soldered a wire to each terminal and just powered it off of my bench power supply
00:06:18 <Nothing\> put a switch in series with it and just press the switch to activate it
00:06:55 <Nothing\> although at about 1.5ohms at 4v i'd imagine those things heat up pretty fast
00:07:16 <Nothing\> not sure of the wattage, can't be assed to figure it out
00:08:06 <Nothing\> i couldn't even get a good reading on the resistance. My meter would show 1 ohm, then jump up to 3, then 1.5, then 2 and change, then 3 again and it'd just keep jumping around
00:08:30 <Nothing\> which i've noticed is a problem with measuring any really low or really high resistance
00:09:38 <Nothing\> yeesh yeah that's about 10 watts
00:09:54 <Nothing\> for a mass that's no more than maybe a quarter ounce
00:11:41 <Nothing\> HOLY SHIT
00:11:52 <Nothing\> I JUST REALIZED BART SIMPSON'S HEAD IS THE EXACT SAME SHAPE AS A CAN OF SOUP
00:12:08 <Ampera> there has never been a moment I've considered banning you more than now
00:13:03 <Nothing\> okay jspiros lol
00:13:26 <Ampera> no, he's smart, he would have banned you ages ago
00:13:28 <Ampera> oh wait
00:13:37 <Nothing\> wtf's your problem lately
00:14:00 <Nothing\> like, that's twice you've been on my ass about trivial shit
00:14:21 <Nothing\> i get it, i'm annoying at times. That's how people are.
00:14:28 <Nothing\> But you know what makes a friend a real friend?
00:14:34 <Nothing\> being tolerant of those annoyances
00:14:38 * Ampera kisses Nothing\
00:14:58 <Ampera> I haven't been on your ass about anything, I've never said a serious word in this channel
00:14:59 <Ampera> or in my life
00:15:03 <Ampera> besides this
00:15:04 <Ampera> you're cute
00:15:22 <Nothing\> to me it feels like you're riding my ass under the guise of joking
00:15:34 <Ampera> or maybe I'm joking under the guise of riding your ass
00:15:44 <Ampera> the world may never know
00:15:46 <Nothing\> and the so-called jokes have taken on a much more sinister tone as of late
00:15:51 <Nothing\> sinister/serious
00:16:08 <Nothing\> before i could at least recognize them for what they were and join in the fun
00:16:33 <Ampera> My way of making fun of reality is to overemphasize reality. I find it amusing when you turn up the contrast on anything and can start to really see the details
00:16:56 <Ampera> If you're hurt because of that, I apologize, there was no intent
00:16:58 <Nothing\> i can see that, definitely
00:17:03 <Ampera> I don't actually hate you, the only thing I hate is myself
00:17:11 <Ampera> I hate myself so much I don't even consider myself a person, just a thing
00:17:12 <Nothing\> that's like, the biggest thing in parody humour
00:17:25 <Ampera> It's more satire than parody
00:17:36 <Ampera> but satire where the message given is left up to the observer
00:17:37 <Nothing\> it's like a characature of words
00:17:44 <Nothing\> *made of words
00:18:04 <Ampera> that's my favorite thing about art in general, art which has a meaning defined only by the appreciator
00:18:19 <Ampera> and I consider art to be anything which expresses a meaning
00:18:20 <Nothing\> yeah but then it gets out of hand
00:18:27 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:18:32 <Nothing\> like that guy who just splattered a bunch of paint on a canvas
00:18:41 <Nothing\> apparently that was one of, if not the most expensive painting ever sold
00:18:47 <Nothing\> jacson pollock was it? i dunno
00:18:50 <Ampera> he should have splattered cum all over it
00:18:53 <Ampera> I would have bought it
00:18:54 <Nothing\> or andy warhol's can of soup
00:18:59 <Nothing\> Ampera, he probably did
00:19:03 <Nothing\> i would have for the lulz
00:19:19 <Ampera> the thing to realize about the art market is the meaning and significance of the piece is secondary to its value
00:19:20 <Nothing\> so i can think to myself "haha they just paid $600 million for my cum rag"
00:19:25 <Nothing\> although Ampera
00:19:37 <Ampera> since the dawn of government, people with a lot of money have been trying to think of ways to make sure nobody gets to take their money
00:19:41 <Nothing\> my mom was just telling me yesterday about how people have bought shit like william shatner's kidney stone
00:19:48 <Ampera> storing money in physical assets is one of the oldest forms of that
00:19:50 <Nothing\> or some other celebrity, i think brad pitt's used kleenex
00:19:54 <Nothing\> and shit like that
00:20:11 <Nothing\> when i was married there was a guy on irc willing to buy my ex's used tampons
00:20:17 <Ampera> as such, most super expensive art isn't actually worth anything, more it's an agreed upon material store of wealth
00:20:24 <Nothing\> unfortunately to ship them would have violated several laws
00:20:28 <Ampera> think of it kinda like a savings account for rich people, but with no bank
00:20:39 <Nothing\> ie shipping biohazardous materials through public mail
00:21:07 <Nothing\> i dunno, i've always been too logically minded to be able to appreciate art
00:21:25 <Nothing\> i (obviously) see things in a very literal way
00:21:35 <Ampera> That can be an appreciation of art.
00:21:35 <Nothing\> and many subtlties are lost on me
00:21:47 <Nothing\> which is why i'm not great at cooking, i go overboard with the spices
00:22:00 <Ampera> In art, the people who try to force a meaning are the ones who I believe don't get it
00:22:07 <Nothing\> and art, like painting i can't blend colors seamlessly
00:22:17 <Nothing\> or shade properly, or get proportions right
00:22:22 <Ampera> I do not believe there to be any true interpretation of any art. There can be an intended one, but people will see reality as they wish to
00:22:28 <Nothing\> and i just suck with a pen or any stylus based tool
00:22:30 <Ampera> and art is a medium which allows people to experience an alternate reality
00:22:35 <Ampera> like a seed to grow a plant
00:22:42 <Nothing\> huh i just made a random connection in my head
00:22:49 <Nothing\> in french, a pen is called la stylo
00:22:57 <Nothing\> never realized till just now it's derived from stylus
00:23:31 Join: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
00:23:37 <Nothing\> or is it le stylo? i know there's something about if a word ends in a vowel it's probably feminine, but i feel like that only applies to the vowel "a"
00:23:41 <Nothing\> heya Kuschelpony
00:23:44 <rust_collector> someone sent me "cake decorating supplies" from china.
00:24:08 <Kuschelpony> Hello Nothing
00:24:11 <rust_collector> it is a cardboard flamingo, with a feather, and a wooden stick
00:24:15 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, being a native speaker of a language with gender nouns, are there any patterns you've noticed in general between male and female nouns?
00:24:21 <Nothing\> like what i just explained
00:24:33 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector
00:24:39 <Nothing\> also hey rust_collector
00:24:46 <Kuschelpony> uhm, i can surely give you an answer but i can not yet translate your question
00:24:47 <Nothing\> rust_collector, you know, your name reminds me of the game rust
00:24:51 <Nothing\> which i bought, but have yet to play
00:25:00 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, ah no worries then lol
00:25:09 <Nothing\> it was just a general question about grammar
00:25:18 <Kuschelpony> as said im happy to help
00:25:21 <Nothing\> and nouns with genders, like male and female words
00:25:45 <Nothing\> and whether there's any sort of pattern to it
00:25:57 <Ampera> genders are dumb
00:25:58 <Ampera> I hate genders
00:26:01 <Nothing\> like, female words end in these letters
00:26:01 <Ampera> anyone with a gender is stupid
00:26:04 <Nothing\> that sort of rule
00:26:13 <Kuschelpony> ah
00:26:20 <Nothing\> like i know in some languages, a lot of words that end in A are female
00:26:24 <Nothing\> words and names
00:26:48 <Kuschelpony> no there are not many patterns like this, either you are born into this language or you dont understand it, perhaps bot at once
00:26:51 <Nothing\> think about it, you slap an A on the end of any name and it sounds like it's for a woman
00:26:55 <Nothing\> helmuta
00:27:00 <Nothing\> see?
00:27:02 <Nothing\> :P
00:27:08 <Kuschelpony> hihi :)
00:27:27 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, dang, i was afraid of that
00:27:38 <Nothing\> i always had a feeling there was no rhyme or reason to it
00:27:45 <Kuschelpony> i try to use ungerndered pronouns to avoid this where i feel unsure
00:28:05 <rust_collector> well, if you add a t, you sound like a dog.... I am not sure if that is a rule or not
00:28:05 <Nothing\> i know in french there are some general patterns, like something about if the letter ends in a vowel it's most likely female
00:28:13 <Nothing\> er, if the word ends in a vowel
00:28:48 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, huh so is it a common mistake among even native speakers to mix up genders?
00:29:05 <Nothing\> i guess if you've never heard the word before, huh?
00:29:15 <Kuschelpony> im not sure how common it is, but i can say that even natives sometimes either ignore it or feel unsure
00:29:35 <Nothing\> i wonder if that's unique to german, or happens with other such languages
00:29:45 <Nothing\> i don't know any native french speakers anymore
00:29:58 <Nothing\> i used to know a quebecois but he/she wasn't the greatest person
00:30:02 <Nothing\> turned out to be real toxic
00:30:18 <Kuschelpony> we have an language that can be awesome for poetic texts, we have an language that can be deeply precise for scientific use, and we have an language that is plain complicated and unlogical
00:30:44 <Kuschelpony> perhaps you should ask an deep learning AI to find your patterns
00:31:26 <Ampera> I love the quebecois. They're so fucking mad at being inferior to everyone else
00:31:28 <Ampera> kinda like serbs
00:31:45 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol and their many failed attempts at succession
00:31:55 <Ampera> secession
00:32:01 <Nothing\> cuz canada's gonna let itself be geographically cut in half
00:32:19 <rust_collector> worked ok for pakistan
00:32:23 <Nothing\> hah
00:32:24 <Ampera> hahahaha
00:32:44 <Nothing\> actually now that i think about it, it pretty much IS cut in half anyways
00:33:01 <Nothing\> i mean the differences between ontario, and the maritime provinces on the other side of quebec are vast
00:33:07 <Nothing\> even our accents are nothing alike
00:33:28 <Nothing\> they have this weird almost mix of irish and stereotypical canadian accents, it's kinda nice in a way actually
00:33:39 <Nothing\> we call it a newfie accent
00:34:03 <Nothing\> even though it's for everyone in the maritimes, but it's especially present in newfoundland
00:34:18 <Nothing\> or nofinlind as they call it
00:34:29 <Nothing\> or nofinlund
00:34:35 <rust_collector> we have dialects, that are really hard to understand at all, not just different sounding
00:34:47 <Nothing\> yeah, newfies are real hard to understand
00:34:59 <Nothing\> it's almost like the pikey accent in snatch
00:35:02 <Nothing\> remember that?
00:35:06 <rust_collector> nope
00:35:07 <Nothing\> brad pitt's character
00:35:17 <rust_collector> Ok, I have never seen it
00:35:28 <Nothing\> you should, it's guy ritchie's finest movie imo
00:35:49 <Nothing\> it's funny, i went and watched lock stock and two smoking barrels afterwards, which was one of his first movies
00:35:56 <Nothing\> it was essentially the exact same movie as snatch
00:36:07 <Nothing\> except with a bag of money instead of a big diamond
00:36:26 <Nothing\> and everybody's trying to get their hands on it as hijinx ensue
00:36:51 Join: TheDude ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
00:36:58 <Nothing\> and then in the end the most unlikely underdog type character ends up getting it by pure chance after being dragged through the ringer
00:37:06 <Nothing\> hey TheDude
00:37:16 <Nothing\> you're just in time, i was discussing guy ritchie films
00:37:23 <Nothing\> or at least the first two
00:37:33 <Nothing\> snatch and lock stock
00:38:44 <Nothing\> and now i've killed the chat
00:39:03 <Nothing\> oh funny thing i read the other day
00:39:34 <Nothing\> apparently some schools in their psych department are using episodes of the big bang theory to teach about abnormal psychology (ie mental illnesses)
00:39:43 * Ampera hugs TheDude
00:39:44 <Nothing\> they have the students watch and then diagnose sheldon lol
00:39:44 <rust_collector> I think I saw a poster from a guy ritchie film. maybe together with someone else. it had a scammell crusader on it
00:39:46 <Ampera> how are you doing TheDude
00:40:30 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i dunno frankly i got sick of jason statham after snatch
00:40:38 <Nothing\> i dunno why he was so popular
00:40:48 <rust_collector> he has nice hair?
00:40:48 <Nothing\> i guarantee if you took away his accent, nobody would give two shits about him
00:41:05 <Nothing\> yes
00:41:12 <Nothing\> it does rather remind me of a brillo pad
00:41:22 <Nothing\> which reminds me, i've gotta shave my head again
00:41:41 <Nothing\> i noticed i had a cowlick this morning. If my hair can assume any shape other than round it's too long
00:42:23 <Nothing\> oh yeah that's right
00:42:31 <Nothing\> i was meaning to ask
00:43:35 <Nothing\> is there anything fundamentally different about the architecture of a GPU vs a standard CPU? or is there something about them that makes them specially suited to processing graphics. Like a vector processing unit or a digital signal processor
00:44:05 <Nothing\> i'd imagine a GPU is probably different in how it deals with memory since it uses apparently very different memory from a CPU
00:45:31 <Nothing\> but that's about all the speculating i can do. Maybe hardware versions of 3d rendering software in the form of asics
00:45:43 <Nothing\> but that's more the chipset
00:53:57 <Ampera> Depends on what period in time you're on, but in modern days the most fundamental differences are GPUs operate using a very small instruction set dedicated to working on certain data types, and are typically manycore designs
00:55:32 <Ampera> GPU memory tends to be a lot faster at shifting around massive chunks of data really fast than normal CPU memory
00:55:49 <Ampera> usually with much larger bus widths
00:57:11 <Ampera> iirc, as things shifted into GPGPU eras with CUDA and such, the design of GPUs became a lot more general purpose than the more dedicated rendering hardware
00:57:46 <Ampera> stuff like the Voodoo 1/2 had hardware dedicated to texture mapping and drawing, whereas I think most of that is sort of kinda done in software on modern GPUs
00:58:12 <Ampera> this is like a few college degrees above my paygrade, so I could be way off the mark here
01:05:30 <T3sl4> Halcyon, electrohead said he had "multiple warnings"
01:06:06 <T3sl4> i don't know what kind of incompetence we have here among ops that that should come to be
01:06:51 <Ampera> Yeah I probably should have banned him when he posted porn
01:06:58 <Ampera> the main problem is we really don't get a lot of trouble
01:07:06 <Ampera> so there's no real established bar as to what constitutes a permaban
01:07:20 <Ampera> and he's been in here multiple times without serious problem, so it's not like he was constantly being an issue
01:10:11 <T3sl4> he's been harassing someone too
01:10:14 <Ampera> actually I'm not sure, I might have even given him a temp ban
01:10:22 <Ampera> That was never brought to my attention, and was not aware of it
01:10:40 <Ampera> was this out in the open?
01:10:54 <Ampera> but now that I think of it, i might have actually given him a temp ban at one point
01:10:54 <T3sl4> by PMs, they said they had to block em
01:11:05 <Ampera> yeah then that's in the hands of austnet staff primarily
01:11:31 <Ampera> not that it doesn't detract from his case in here, but that's typically how it goes afaik
01:11:52 <T3sl4> would be nice if our admins were ever around *cough*
01:12:15 <Ampera> I think electrohead is actually a server op. I'm not sure
01:15:57 <Ampera> I think I kicked him, not a ban
01:16:05 <Ampera> I thought it was a ban, but logs show otherwise
01:17:30 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
01:17:41 * Ampera launches tentacles at arch
01:18:02 * arch cooks them and eats them
01:18:10 <Ampera> mmm
01:18:23 <Ampera> Cephalopod is delicious
01:18:39 <Ampera> we used to get canned octopus/squid all the time, until I think my dad got sick of it
01:20:19 <Kuschelpony> mmh, i should clean up a bit more my hobby room
01:21:09 <Ampera> would be nice if the music store would call me up and tell me my 8 string's ready to pick up
01:21:29 <Kuschelpony> tried to find back the roll of crap leadfree solder to be used as anode for galvanic tinning experiments, but found only the roll of the good solder (with copper and silver) that is too expensive and probably even less good for these things
01:22:38 <Ampera> I've been meaning to find a good 60/40 solder
01:22:43 <Ampera> they have rosin core solders on amazon for cheap
01:22:49 <Ampera> idk if cheap is good, I don't solder much
01:23:57 <Kuschelpony> oh im soldering leadfree since 2006 without problems after i found a good mix, but i also have an almost full 250g roll of the cheap shit
01:24:19 <Kuschelpony> and that would have been a good start now
01:24:29 <Ampera> I hate the environment, so I like lead solder
01:24:52 <electrohead> T3sl4: I'm part of the admin team, but not a full IRCop
01:25:27 <Ampera> when are we getting auth on connect
01:25:40 <Ampera> I probably asked for this in 2019
01:25:42 <Ampera> :P
01:25:53 <T3sl4> the answer is the same as it was then
01:26:04 <Ampera> never
01:26:08 <Ampera> but it's still amusing to ask
01:26:32 <arch> anyone know if it's possible to use the git cli tool to re-generate OAUTH tokens?
01:27:07 <Ampera> I wouldn't think so, you might be able to do that through the API for whatever your git provider is
01:27:08 <T3sl4> Kuschelpony: meh, they'll just fall out as "anode slime", or maybe dissolve making the solution less pure over time
01:27:46 <electrohead> directly through the CLI? I don't think it's possible
01:28:26 <electrohead> of course it can be used via CLI, but generating, yeah not too sure
01:30:22 <Nothing\> jeez
01:30:50 <Nothing\> you know you have problems when you spend 45 minutes making circuit diagrams to prove a point for a reply to a youtube comment
01:30:56 <K> Oh-auth
01:31:56 <T3sl4> K: Two Oh
01:32:01 <electrohead> T3sl4: alright, I got the required information about the noexpire for bans; do we want to permanently ban him? also, what chanop command did you originally use to place then ban?
01:32:08 <electrohead> you can reply via PM if you wish
01:32:17 <K> Ampera, i have a roll of Loctite Crystal 4000, is 63/37 and a pleaure to work with
01:32:29 <K> err, Crystal 400
01:33:16 <Ampera> ain't cheap
01:33:18 <K> was not exactly cheap, as i recall, but i do not use kilos of the stuff
01:33:19 <Ampera> but I'll consider it
01:33:44 <Ampera> looks like 500g is around 40 bucks or so
01:34:08 <K> i have 250g spool, paid 25 eur iirc
01:34:09 <arch> what's wrong with Kester 63/37?
01:34:10 <Ampera> on newark though, as I recall their shipping prices are shit
01:34:21 <Ampera> I don't fucking know, I hate electronics
01:34:41 <Ampera> I just want some on hand in case I need it
01:34:49 <arch> if you buy the cheapest shit off ebay, you're gonna get chinese solder, which is basically molten lead acid battery plates and smells like ass
01:34:58 <Ampera> ebay is gay
01:35:03 <K> yeah, dont do that
01:36:01 <Ampera> Kester seems to be about the same price off amazon as crystal 400 is off newark
01:36:56 <T3sl4> just get a small roll of any brand from digikey or whatever, RMA, leaded 60/40 or 63/37
01:36:58 <Ampera> ah, I've found a 1lb spool for 30 bucks
01:37:01 <T3sl4> can be multicore if you like
01:37:11 <Ampera> I don't like ordering small orders off digikey
01:37:19 <Ampera> anything I can get off amazon is easier
01:37:24 <T3sl4> no-clean and other kinds tend to be less active, maybe not so great for starting out
01:37:33 <K> can't you ask your dad for some?
01:37:47 <Ampera> Yes, but I'd rather have my own roll.
01:37:57 <K> okay
01:38:12 <Ampera> I'm not even really starting out, I've been soldering for years, I just don't do it enough to give a shit
01:38:13 <T3sl4> that's just how Ampera rolls
01:38:40 <K> (badum-tsh)
01:38:45 <TheDude> g'day
01:38:49 * Ampera hugs TheDude
01:38:51 <Ampera> how are you doing
01:39:03 <TheDude> alright, I guess
01:39:22 <TheDude> slightly weary
01:39:30 <Ampera> I am very weary
01:39:33 <Ampera> leary
01:39:35 <Ampera> queery
01:39:36 <Ampera> and sneery
01:40:33 <TheDude> it's rather hectic at work atm
01:40:44 <TheDude> trying to solve multiple problems at once
01:40:48 <Ampera> right now we're in panic before the storm mode
01:40:52 <TheDude> and things aren't going as smoothly as one would hope
01:40:54 <arch> we're almost there. tgif tomorrow
01:41:05 <Ampera> bunch of new features to go out the door, and regression testing stuff
01:41:07 <TheDude> friday ain't solving shit
01:41:29 <arch> b-but...pizza
01:41:55 <arch> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/484/832/ee0.jpeg
01:41:58 <Ampera> bizza
01:42:16 <Ampera> I must be doing something wrong
01:42:33 <Ampera> as I'm not underpaid, I work well, but I don't overdo it, and I am without pizza at this moment
01:43:10 <arch> hehe, no pizza for you, fatty
01:43:49 <K> pizzaless
01:44:04 <K> i don't have pizza either, thogh
01:44:08 <Ampera> I probably weigh less than you do arch
01:44:19 <Ampera> (in comparison to height)
01:44:22 <K> 60kg ?
01:44:28 <Ampera> I have no idea what that is
01:44:34 <TheDude> I am currently severely underpaid
01:44:34 <arch> 221 bananas is my weight
01:44:47 <Ampera> I weigh 170 small bags of rice
01:45:09 <TheDude> and I'm currently searching for alternatives
01:45:25 <T3sl4> Ampera: kg * 2.2
01:45:30 <Ampera> Job market's great here if you want a service job
01:45:44 <Ampera> ah, so 60lbslbsl
01:45:56 <TheDude> nah, not interested in remote work with weird hours
01:47:01 <arch> if i lived in a small town, i wouldn't mind a service job (ie. face to face with people) with lower pay
01:47:47 <Ampera> TheDude, not that kind of service job
01:48:08 <Ampera> I more mean you push carts at walmart, or take orders at mcdonalds
01:48:17 <T3sl4> TheDude: psst, Ampera wants to join your OnlyFans
01:48:23 Mode: (by ChanOP) +b *!*Lord_of_not@*.fonira.net
01:48:23 Kick: Lord_of_nothing was kicked by ChanOP ((electrohead) You are banned)
01:48:45 <electrohead> Done.
01:48:50 <Ampera> cool
01:48:51 <TheDude> anyhow
01:48:52 <Ampera> I hated him
01:48:57 <Ampera> just didn't think anyone else did
01:49:03 <TheDude> currently looking for alternatives
01:49:04 <arch> what did he do
01:49:13 <TheDude> no longer willing to put up with subpar salary
01:49:13 <Ampera> he committed the crime of being austraian
01:49:16 <Ampera> er, austrian
01:49:22 <TheDude> I might as well get a couple of job offers
01:49:32 <Ampera> same offense adolf hitler committed, which lead to his execution by the nazi government
01:49:37 <arch> naruhodo
01:49:43 <TheDude> and then give the current employer a chance to improve on the current salary if they want me to stay
01:49:47 <electrohead> Posted porn, went off on anti-vax bullshit, went off about hitler and nazi shit.. So, he's done.
01:50:07 <arch> TheDude, that is a bad idea. they can short term agree to your higher pay, but fire you once they get a replacement for you
01:50:27 <TheDude> yeah... talking shit about Hitler is where I'd draw the line
01:50:37 <Ampera> hitler was gay
01:50:44 <TheDude> arch, lol no
01:50:56 <Ampera> he looked like someone fucked charlie chaplin in the ass with a bratwurst
01:51:01 <TheDude> the employment laws are a fair bit more strict here than they are over there
01:51:10 <arch> where are you again? uk?
01:51:14 <TheDude> Slovenia
01:51:16 <arch> oo
01:51:40 <TheDude> anyhow, you can't simply sack someone because you kinda sorta don't like him
01:51:54 <Ampera> you'd be surprised
01:52:00 <TheDude> no, I would not
01:52:07 <TheDude> it doesn't work like that here
01:52:11 <TheDude> anyhow
01:52:19 <TheDude> they would definitely not do that
01:52:24 <Ampera> here you can get sacked for almost any reason
01:52:28 <TheDude> because they need me MUCH more than I need them
01:52:52 <TheDude> I leave right now and the only project that is about to go into production goes to shit
01:52:56 <Ampera> which makes it all the most impressive when people who do their job like a 3 year old sticking a square peg into a round hole never get let go
01:53:56 <TheDude> so they really can't afford to lose me
01:54:03 <T3sl4> Ampera: compliant, mediocre workers are the hallmark of a middle-management-dominated system
01:54:22 <TheDude> and I'm most definitely going to use that as leverage
01:55:19 * Ampera sticks T3sl4 under a car, and levers on him like a shop jack
01:55:49 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/VXRM504.jpg
01:56:16 <K> Ampera jacks of T3sl4, noted.
01:56:21 <K> off.
01:56:27 <Ampera> better than queening him of
01:56:29 <Ampera> he's a king
01:56:33 <Ampera> *off
01:56:44 <Ampera> K, I'm atching yuor lysdecxia
01:57:19 <TheDude> also speaking of which
01:57:40 <TheDude> if they can manage to find someone that can do my work for less money, they should probably clone him
01:58:09 <TheDude> because the company has job ads for more embedded sw engineers out for months now
01:58:33 <TheDude> and people are applying for the position, but nobody is willing to accept the salary :D
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02:04:32 <K> how much, TheDude ?
02:04:32 <arch> lol, i was looking for a devops job a year ago, and the fucker that got back to me offered $12/hr...i was like...bruh, the min wage is $15, and that's for unskilled work too.
02:05:01 <TheDude> you're probably going to laugh rn
02:05:06 <TheDude> 1400-1500€ monthly
02:05:10 <Ampera> woah
02:05:32 <TheDude> it's not that awful for this country
02:05:40 <TheDude> but it's pretty fucking meager for the work that I do
02:05:51 <K> um, yea, that is not hot
02:05:56 <TheDude> oh yeah, this is the net
02:06:05 <K> haha
02:06:11 <arch> yea i was making about ~$1700/mo USD doing helpdesk, and that only needed like ~10% of my brain power
02:06:15 <TheDude> not counting in health insurance and pension payments
02:06:17 <Ampera> TheDude, how many hours do you work a month
02:06:21 <Ampera> 160-ish?
02:06:29 <TheDude> 174 on average
02:06:36 <Ampera> uhhh
02:06:38 <TheDude> 8 hours per day, 5 days a week
02:07:05 <Ampera> by my calculations that's about 10$/hr
02:07:11 <Ampera> that's below NY minimum wage
02:07:25 <TheDude> hold up
02:07:31 <rust_collector> but he does not live in NY...
02:07:37 <TheDude> I'm talking about the net salary which gets to my account
02:07:49 <TheDude> health insurance and pension already paid
02:07:53 <Ampera> you mean post-tax income
02:07:59 <TheDude> that, too
02:07:59 <Ampera> or rather, post-deductions
02:08:04 <TheDude> post everything
02:08:08 <Ampera> ok, that's a lot different
02:08:18 <TheDude> hold on
02:08:53 <TheDude> the gross last month was 2060€
02:08:58 <Ampera> the standard here is to state your net income / gross wage, which is before deductions
02:09:33 <TheDude> right, which is what I realized after some time in this conversation
02:09:35 <Ampera> so that's a bit below 15$/hr
02:09:36 <TheDude> and added that
02:09:46 <Ampera> at current conversion rates
02:09:57 <TheDude> I trust your calculation
02:10:12 <Ampera> unless you're sweeping floors, or the cost of living is almost negative where you are, that's dogshit
02:10:22 <TheDude> again, for Slovenian standards it's not even bad
02:10:32 <TheDude> but for engineer standards, it's bad
02:10:36 <arch> ^^
02:10:58 <Ampera> I work software QA and make over twice as much as you post-taxes
02:11:21 <TheDude> is that a good salary where you are?
02:11:23 <Ampera> I think you probably should murder, or at least brutally injure a few people in management
02:11:23 <rust_collector> why do people from different places still try to compare their income, lol
02:11:44 <arch> word
02:11:49 <Ampera> It's quite decent. There is a somewhat lower cost of living where I am, so it's not bad
02:11:55 <Ampera> For my age and experience it's absolutely stellar
02:12:03 <Ampera> but for the position it's a good salary
02:12:05 <arch> if you told me you made $100k...but lived in California, you're basically living like a bum
02:12:08 <TheDude> the average slovenian gross salary for the last 12 month is 1860€
02:12:18 <TheDude> which nets 1210€
02:12:34 <K> about the same here too
02:12:36 <Ampera> gross and net salary are the same thing, at least in the terminology I'm familiar with
02:12:52 <Ampera> could easily be that I'm confusing terms
02:12:55 <K> a little less, even
02:13:17 <Ampera> No clue what the NY average is, and it'd be a bit skewed since salaries in NYC are way higher than they are here
02:13:22 <TheDude> Ampera, it's not the same thing
02:13:34 <TheDude> depends entirely on your living expenses
02:13:40 <K> net is whate is left after teh tax man has had his way
02:13:44 <Ampera> seems it is
02:13:49 <Ampera> idk why I thought it was otherwise
02:14:05 <TheDude> so
02:14:10 <Ampera> TheDude, what's the price of an average apartment rent (in a month) and a month's groceries
02:14:25 <TheDude> hold on, I'll try to find the stats
02:14:37 <Ampera> average rent here is maybe 800-900USD/mo and I pay around 250$/mo or so on groceries for one person
02:14:41 <Ampera> I more mean off the top of your head
02:14:42 <K> 350 eur here for smalish, but in old city
02:14:46 <Ampera> what you'd consider average
02:15:21 <K> you could get something passable for 250 a bit away from center
02:15:39 <Nothing\> ah that's enough new vegas for new
02:15:39 <Ampera> The cheapest you'd be lucky to find anywhere is probably 500-700USD
02:15:47 <Ampera> depends on where you're looking
02:15:50 <Nothing\> i just skipped ahead right to the strip from the repconn plant
02:16:08 <Nothing\> still gotta do helios 1 and take care of that "mr fantastic"
02:16:12 <Nothing\> that guy always made me laugh
02:16:24 <Ampera> rental prices are absolutely fucked here because evictions are illegal and nobody's cashing out renal assistance programs, so anything rental is a massive liability
02:16:49 <arch> need to evict the fucking evil bankers, is what
02:16:49 <TheDude> the apartment where I'm currently would run around 750€/month
02:17:11 <TheDude> but I'm not paying rent because it belongs to my parents
02:17:52 <TheDude> the bills I'm paying are around 200-250€ month
02:18:19 <rust_collector> how much do you pay to rent your parents each month?
02:18:41 <TheDude> then I spend maybe 300€/month for food
02:18:43 <Ampera> so your rent is similar to ours
02:18:48 <Ampera> food about the same too
02:18:55 <K> food the same here too
02:18:57 <Ampera> so, very roughly, your cost of living is similar
02:19:12 <TheDude> it seems so
02:19:54 <TheDude> but rental prices here are exorbitant because I'm living in the center of the capital
02:19:57 <Ampera> I am out of tea
02:19:59 <Ampera> who the fuck did this
02:20:02 <Ampera> who drank my tea
02:20:05 <Ampera> I'm gonna kick your ass
02:20:21 * jaymax kicks Ampera ass
02:20:34 <jaymax> I to am out of tee
02:20:56 <jaymax> Precedents, mofo
02:21:21 <Ampera> I almost shit my pants and thought you were jspiros
02:21:29 <Ampera> but no he isn't that jovial
02:21:54 <jaymax> My mood is dependent on time of day
02:22:05 <Ampera> I have abolished time.
02:22:07 <Ampera> there is no time of day
02:22:09 <Ampera> you have no mood
02:22:30 <jaymax> No you're a towel.
02:23:21 <Ampera> get out of my electrohead you maniac
02:26:36 * electrohead films
02:26:46 <Ampera> how are you are you , electrohead electrohead?
02:26:55 <arch> imo, it is better to live with parents than with random strangers, if you're gonna have to roomshare anyways and share rent
02:27:03 <Ampera> ^
02:27:06 <arch> that way, you save some money, quite a bit of money
02:27:09 <electrohead> living with family can suck, though
02:27:14 <Ampera> ^
02:27:30 * electrohead bit shifts Ampera
02:27:43 <arch> yeah, it depends on your situation. if you can tolerate your family and/or enjoy their company, it is a good way to save money in your younger years
02:27:48 * Ampera bit slices electrohead
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02:32:10 <Ampera> rust_collector, you are very pretty
02:32:26 <rust_collector> that is true
02:32:36 <Ampera> also you have a samsung Galaxy S10+
02:32:47 <rust_collector> yea
02:32:55 <Nothing\> ah man i need some food
02:33:00 <rust_collector> no
02:33:04 <Nothing\> sitting around is making me hungry
02:33:08 <rust_collector> yep
02:33:08 <Nothing\> rust_collector, have you played Rust?
02:33:11 <rust_collector> no
02:33:15 <Nothing\> or have any of you present played it?
02:33:31 <rust_collector> I don't play games
02:33:37 <rust_collector> at all
02:35:06 <arch> im still on a nexus 5 from 2013 or so
02:35:17 <arch> the battery sucks ass now, but it still works
02:35:30 <arch> saving that money
02:35:43 <Nothing\> man
02:35:49 <Nothing\> i got this THC concentrate
02:35:52 <Nothing\> it's 95%
02:36:02 <Nothing\> i just had 3 puffs then passed out for about an hour
02:36:07 <arch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3X_zx8q8_s
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02:36:11 <Nothing\> like, narcolepsy style pass out
02:36:29 <Nothing\> i just fell asleep suddenly, head on my desk.
02:36:51 <rust_collector> if I am not mixing you up with someone else.... did anything change?
02:37:03 <Ampera> No, he's still Nothing\
02:37:03 <Nothing\> anything like what?
02:37:07 <Ampera> unfortunately
02:37:29 <rust_collector> falling asleep is not a new thing for you, is it?
02:37:39 * Ampera gives Nothing\ a baked potato
02:37:41 <Nothing\> lol no i do it all the time
02:37:46 <Nothing\> i'm just oversedated
02:37:48 <Ampera> reminds me of my grandfather
02:37:58 <Ampera> he used to have issues staying awake, is a lot better now
02:38:02 <Nothing\> and sleep deprived
02:38:09 <Ampera> got to the point where it was a bit precarious when he drove
02:38:14 * jaymax gives Ampera Nothing\
02:38:24 <Ampera> what did I do to deserve that, jaymax
02:38:30 <Ampera> just keep the receipt is all I can say
02:38:37 <jaymax> Big bet it's been done before.
02:38:54 <Ampera> no, people usually just make me wish they got me nothing
02:39:12 <Ampera> last year's christmas was my worst christmas ever by a country mile
02:39:27 * jaymax gives Ampera six monkey paw wishes
02:39:29 <Nothing\> lol i saw this youtube video that had millions of views showing how you can use hand sanitizer to erase the ink on receipts
02:39:43 * Ampera wishes for a six footed monkey
02:40:09 <Nothing\> i'm sitting here thinking "well duh, does nobody know how peolpe committed cheque fraud back the day? They used the exact same technique almost
02:40:20 <Ampera> the ultimate shoplifter power move is to print your own receipt in the store containing everything you stole
02:40:26 <jaymax> I once wished for a big hairy beaver - I was disappoint.
02:40:33 * Ampera gives jaymax Nothing\
02:40:40 <jaymax> Awwww!
02:40:57 <Nothing\> just wash the cheque in a solvent that'll dissolve the ink but not damage or mark the paper, then write in whatever value you want for it
02:41:48 <jaymax> Amzing.
02:42:34 <Ampera> I like checks
02:42:37 <Ampera> it's my preferred way to pay
02:42:45 <Nothing\> checks and balances?
02:43:03 <Nothing\> check valves?
02:43:09 <Nothing\> checkered suits?
02:43:11 <Ampera> no personal checks
02:43:29 <Nothing\> personal chicks?
02:43:32 <jaymax> I'm among the village people I like cheques.
02:43:39 <Ampera> I enjoy being that asshole in the checkout aisle who is trying to scribble everything onto a check in absolute chicken scritch
02:43:49 <Ampera> if I have to pay in cash, then my only way to piss people off is to count exact change
02:43:58 <Ampera> which just doesn't have the same level of anger installation
02:44:00 <jaymax> Ohai gramma
02:44:04 <Nothing\> lol my bank charges me $50 for a book of 50 cheques
02:44:11 <Ampera> you can print your own checks
02:44:11 <Nothing\> soi i don't even bother
02:44:17 <Nothing\> yeah i was just gonna say
02:44:18 <Ampera> I mean, you can also buy your own checks too
02:44:34 <Ampera> I think I got more checks than I'll ever use from a service on rush order for maybe 20 bucks
02:45:10 <Nothing\> although, as long as it has the transit, account and routing numbers, you can basically write out a cheque on a cocktail napkin and it'd still be valid
02:45:44 <Nothing\> oh, nice
02:45:56 <Nothing\> yeah that's a lot better than $1 a piece cheques
02:46:59 <Nothing\> oooh iced cappuccino
02:47:03 <Nothing\> yummay
02:47:24 <Nothing\> hrm that didn't last long
02:47:31 <Nothing\> just chugged it back cuz it was all melted
02:47:34 <Ampera> Checks really are one of the cheapest and easiest ways to give someone money
02:47:42 <Nothing\> but man, if you ever go to a tim hortons, Ampera
02:47:49 <Ampera> they don't exist around here
02:48:01 <Ampera> I would like some poutine at some point though
02:48:02 <Nothing\> get an iced cappuccino if it's warm weather, or a white hot chocolate if it's cold
02:48:14 <Nothing\> Ampera, they have tim hortons in some locations in the states
02:48:21 <Nothing\> i'm just not sure where
02:48:34 <Nothing\> or how prevalent they are
02:48:39 <Nothing\> hrm
02:48:46 <Nothing\> PREvalent
02:48:52 <Nothing\> equiVALENT
02:49:09 <Nothing\> i'm guessing valent means available
02:49:47 <Nothing\> so equivalent is like, equal availability between all sets
02:49:54 <Nothing\> sets or values
02:51:29 <Nothing\> so i read that the prefix ortho means straight or erect, right.
02:52:21 <Nothing\> So I got thinking, does that mean orthopeedick surgeons do surgery on erect penises of men who tried to go pee before the erection went away so it spray all over their dick, giving them pee-dick
02:52:29 <Nothing\> HAR
02:53:00 <Nothing\> besides, everyone knows the best way to pee when you have an erection is doing a handstand
02:53:31 <Nothing\> though for some reason I've come across multiple men throughout my life who swore up and down it's impossible to piss with an erection, which I never understood.
02:53:38 <jaymax> hor-thot-pee-dick
02:53:52 <Nothing\> sure it's not easy, but it's sure as hell possible
02:54:16 <Nothing\> even for my old ass that takes 5-10 minutes or more to start pissing once I've begun trying
02:54:18 <jaymax> This all falls apart with pediatricians.
02:54:59 <Nothing\> pee dietitions?
02:55:52 <jaymax> Urine-pickled eggs.
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06:03:56 <arch> daaayyum, $13 for a 650W PFC server psu. im tempted... https://www.ebay.com/itm/283986342814
06:03:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - New 650W U1 Acbel Polytech FSD056 OVP OCP Server Switching Power Supply 4Z0G | eBay
06:04:15 <arch> and probably shipping is like 80% the cost lol
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06:06:29 <arch> 12V 54A
06:09:00 <arch> https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzcyWDU3Ng==/z/7k4AAOSwje9hEvzA/$_57.jpg
06:15:48 <DHess_US> Are all 1U power supplies interchangable?
06:24:13 <hsn> T3sl4: they did it again at 3:04 https://youtu.be/grRCx4lgHtg
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06:24:51 <hsn> The battery negative contact it wired above live
06:25:30 <T3sl4> idc
06:31:36 <DHess_US> The output is floating so it doesn't matter.
06:31:50 <DHess_US> You can find that sort of thing in power supplies going back decades.
06:33:01 <hsn> T3sl4: xD .. im just sending stuff i know u dont
06:33:19 <DHess_US> It was especially common before PNP power transistors were common, because then you could use NPN transistors for both sides of a +/- power supply.
06:33:57 <DHess_US> Sometimes still see it with bipolar power supplies that use a pair of 7815s or whatever instead of a 7915.
06:35:21 <hsn> DHess_US: i was referring to the "plastic enclosure" giving u a feel that its double insulated or class II supply .. while wires which are connected to finger access metal parts .. are long and soldered can break and touch the dangerous voltages ..
06:54:40 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: https://i.imgur.com/cuk1eIn.jpg'
06:54:45 <T3sl4> er, -'
06:56:39 <DHess_US> It seems so obvious now.
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08:10:50 <arch> can you put an RCD diode across a schottky diode, if the leakage inductance is awful?
08:11:04 <arch> RCD network* i mean
08:18:09 <T3sl4> i guess
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08:45:19 <DHess_US> Sometimes they do that for EMI reasons.
08:58:43 <Halcyon> Damn Axis cameras are expensive
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10:07:39 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:07:54 <Ampera> I'm actually thinking about getting a few cameras up here
10:13:28 <steve30> i need to go and post some freedom of information requests
10:13:45 <steve30> Ampera, I was given an IP camera the other week, but i haven't tried it out yet
10:15:02 <Ampera> I'm looking at the PineCube, but it might be a bit underbaked
10:15:17 <Ampera> it's quite cheap, 30 bucks, but it's a devkit so I'd kinda feel bad about buying a bunch
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11:09:23 * T3sl4 sticks his corncob in Halcyon and Ampera
11:12:54 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
11:13:24 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
11:13:25 <Ampera> how are you Halcyon
11:13:28 <Ampera> what's up Halcyon
11:13:30 <Ampera> how's it going Halcyon
11:13:31 <Halcyon> I'm good, how are you?
11:13:34 <Ampera> awake
11:13:38 <Ampera> I had goat curry today
11:13:47 <Halcyon> Ooooh nice
11:13:49 <Halcyon> How was it?
11:13:53 <Ampera> tasted of goat
11:13:54 <Ampera> and curry
11:13:57 <Halcyon> Bahahah
11:14:12 * T3sl4 goads Ampera
11:14:17 * Ampera gonads T3sl4
11:14:22 <T3sl4> mmm
11:14:57 <Ampera> Halcyon, want to do a telephone call?
11:15:39 <Halcyon> Sure, but later? Already on the phone
11:15:58 <Ampera> sure
11:16:03 <Ampera> let me know
11:16:53 * jaymax gives Ampera knowledge
11:17:00 * Ampera gives it away to a smarter man
11:17:06 * T3sl4 gives Ampera kernel knowledge
11:17:22 <jaymax> Well if you're gonna re-gift....
11:17:42 * T3sl4 gives jaymax Colonel Knowledge
11:18:34 <jaymax> https://media1.tenor.com/images/d8d81d0c8df88aac295990c32f29e9c9/tenor.gif?itemid=12498646
11:18:56 <T3sl4> aww
11:19:24 <jaymax> T3sl4 does Colonel Knowledge make me fried chicken?
11:20:40 <T3sl4> he might know the spices
11:22:00 * Ampera makes T3sl4 dickin lickin good
11:22:02 <jaymax> Good 'nuff
11:22:26 <jaymax> *Sigh*
11:23:11 * T3sl4 spices Ampera
11:23:52 <T3sl4> ok but i'm goin out, be back in some hours
11:23:53 <Ampera> T3sl4, has anyone ever educated you as to the difference between jelly and jam?
11:24:00 <Ampera> oh
11:24:01 <Ampera> ok
11:24:02 <T3sl4> and yes.
11:24:03 <Ampera> run away then
11:24:08 <Halcyon> T3sl4, you go out?
11:24:10 * Ampera jams someone else in the ass...
11:24:13 <Ampera> ooo
11:24:15 <Ampera> a Halcyon
11:24:17 <T3sl4> it's a blue moon, Halcyon
11:24:20 * Ampera jellies up the hole
11:24:28 <Halcyon> I'll jam you in the ass Ampera
11:24:30 <jaymax> Ampera de-seeded is jelly.
11:24:38 <Halcyon> Where are you going T3sl4 ?
11:24:44 <jaymax> Stuff that need not care is jam
11:24:45 <T3sl4> karaoke
11:24:50 <Halcyon> Oh nice!
11:25:01 <steve30> Ampera, not kitten curry?
11:25:12 <Halcyon> Have fun! Belt out some Spice Girls for m
11:25:13 <Halcyon> me
11:25:32 <jaymax> 12 herbs and spice girls?
11:25:47 <jaymax> Which one is uraniam-235 spice?
11:26:28 <Halcyon> That's racist
11:26:47 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:26:47 <jaymax> What's racist?
11:27:00 <Halcyon> *shrug*
11:27:12 <Halcyon> Everything is racist these days
11:27:17 <Halcyon> (Apparently)
11:27:23 <Ampera> especially you
11:27:26 <Ampera> racist
11:27:28 * jaymax wonders if Halcyon has my room bugged
11:27:31 <Halcyon> Allegedly yes
11:27:50 <jaymax> lots of racist sounds happenin here rn
11:27:51 <Halcyon> Nah, I don't crawl around in roofs and shit, the other team does that
11:27:58 <jaymax> kk
11:28:00 <jaymax> k
11:28:04 <Halcyon> Hahah
11:28:29 <Halcyon> I'll be back soon, going to the shops, I'll call you afterwards Ampera, in say about 30-40 mins?
11:28:45 <jaymax> TIL about the cereal box placement in prisons.
11:28:53 <MrMobodies> the walls have ears apparently if you have good hearing.
11:28:59 <MrMobodies> that's what I was told
11:29:02 <Ampera> yes yes
11:29:09 <jaymax> Special K | Special K | Special K
11:29:13 <MrMobodies> and they made phone calls behind closed doors when they saw me
11:29:44 <MrMobodies> but it was the reverb and they had poor hearing due to going to many nightclubs and noisy pubs
11:29:45 <Ampera> jaymax, if you keep calling K special I'm gonna have to end you with the ultimate punishment
11:29:48 <Ampera> you will be banned
11:29:50 <Ampera> TO CANADA
11:29:58 <jaymax> Whelp, already there.
11:30:03 <Ampera> oh
11:30:08 <Ampera> TO QUEBEC
11:30:11 <jaymax> Ouch
11:30:32 <jaymax> I'll be good then.
11:30:43 * jaymax hugs Ampera
11:30:48 <Ampera> AHHHH
11:30:48 <Ampera> IT BURNS
11:30:50 * Ampera melts
11:30:59 <Ampera> into jaymax's arms, embracing him
11:31:04 <jaymax> WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?
11:31:24 <MrMobodies> I am building something for my local pub for Disco nights
11:31:28 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/w4oMzIi
11:31:29 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
11:31:51 <MrMobodies> so they can play audio with or without the cables using the usb network hub wit a bridge
11:32:03 <MrMobodies> I thought it would be nice
11:32:32 <MrMobodies> everything is safe and all velcroed down
11:32:40 <MrMobodies> and the cables are double insulated
11:32:56 <MrMobodies> and any sharp edges have velco and tape so it doesn't pinch the cables
11:32:59 <jaymax> I'm feeling a little too good about that setup.
11:33:20 <MrMobodies> The bottom sound card Aaztech 2320 is special for the Sound retrieval system
11:33:27 <jaymax> Very ... tittilating.
11:33:33 <MrMobodies> I just put sound in line in and it comes out with the effrect
11:33:47 <MrMobodies> I can hear the choirs and everything in the background
11:33:53 <MrMobodies> compared it to being flat
11:34:26 <MrMobodies> The 6 fire was given to me I didn't think it would sound great but it's seems fine
11:34:38 <MrMobodies> and it seems solid
11:34:54 <MrMobodies> I put in an SSD that I can easily remove
11:34:57 <MrMobodies> in a tray
11:35:40 <MrMobodies> but the idea is to connect to the Sound blaster on the USB network hub and then use the DAC of the 6 fire sound card
11:36:07 <MrMobodies> and that goes tot he Aztech 2320 then to the Pub's mixer and speakers
11:36:19 <MrMobodies> does it look nice?
11:36:59 <MrMobodies> It is my way of fighting boredom
11:37:08 <MrMobodies> instead of falling asleep in my chair
11:37:27 <jaymax> It does - but I get rousy for molex.
11:38:17 <MrMobodies> rousy?
11:38:56 <jaymax> rowdy
11:39:13 <jaymax> It's getting late for me.
11:39:22 <MrMobodies> oh it is a bit noisy and messy
11:39:45 <MrMobodies> I used a fan enclosure to hid the cables
11:39:54 <MrMobodies> so the door doesn't catch them
11:40:30 <MrMobodies> and the molex I bent them a bit to tight it up and tie wrapped the extensions later
11:41:16 <MrMobodies> sorry to ruin the conversion
11:41:43 <MrMobodies> seeing how quiet it has become
11:42:02 <Ampera> nah I've just moved to my DAW
11:42:04 <Ampera> playing guitar now
11:42:33 <MrMobodies> that's nice to have something to play with
11:43:20 <Ampera> on 6 string bass using guitarix
11:46:44 <MrMobodies> looks like a good tool
11:46:45 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/e0DEVCF.jpg
11:46:52 <MrMobodies> The Guitarix
11:47:28 <MrMobodies> My dad is into guitars
11:47:48 <MrMobodies> and has all sorts of things like peddles and meters to measure the guitars
11:47:59 <MrMobodies> that he collected over the years
11:48:00 <Ampera> It is quite useful
11:48:11 <Ampera> it's nice since I have only a couple pedals, and I like playing with effects
11:48:18 <Ampera> I can also make up for not having an expensive amp
11:48:31 <Ampera> Since I can play around with the signal from the guitar
11:50:13 <MrMobodies> In my old house I had many speakers but I couldn't use them as everyone would hear it
11:50:49 <MrMobodies> now I have moved and into this extensions which is the outer wall I got to get some speakers in here
11:50:59 <MrMobodies> that's the freedom I never had before
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11:51:15 <MrMobodies> just a set of Philips wireless headphones that I had to find abroad
11:51:45 <MrMobodies> I think they were 800mhz and they don't cut out at low volumes like the ones i kept on returning
11:53:49 <T3sl4> sweet corn with various levels of salt and pepper and old bay
11:53:49 <Ampera> I always thought of you as corny
11:53:49 <Halcyon> I've never tried old bay, I should
11:53:49 <T3sl4> it's kinda, paprika + celery salt
11:53:49 <Ampera> https://media.distractify.com/brand-img/QJ5iZf4Uj/0x0/peta-seafood-1605121132611.jpeg
11:53:49 <electrohead> o/
11:53:49 <electrohead> I'm finally done for the day
11:55:23 <MrMobodies> Ampera in about of weeks I am going to have a sort out
11:55:43 <MrMobodies> I have some sound cards to send
11:56:40 <Ampera> Oh sure, let me know if you need me to confirm my address
11:56:46 <Ampera> and if there's anything you'd like me to send you
12:00:03 <MrMobodies> not at the moment
12:00:23 <Ampera> Understood, and still appreciated
12:00:42 <MrMobodies> Emu card 1820, Aztech 2320 ISA, 1 stereo Techlink cable and one stereo to rca and 2 phone jacks
12:01:19 <MrMobodies> I still have to repair that dock which I'll do at a later date
12:02:07 <MrMobodies> and I'll take some picture of stuff I think you make like
12:02:52 <MrMobodies> I have a question for everyone
12:03:02 <MrMobodies> has anyone here every played the Ouija board?
12:03:11 <MrMobodies> and did they notice anything?
12:03:14 <Ampera> I haven't, but I do know what it is
12:03:47 <arch> is it better to put the MOV *after* the common mode choke? i would think so, but some designs have the MOV directly across the fuse and neutral
12:03:49 <MrMobodies> I hear all sorts of things, and was advised not to touch it
12:04:14 <Ampera> I have a basic understanding of how and why it works
12:04:45 <MrMobodies> I wondered it if has anything to do with static energy
12:04:46 <Ampera> It's not really ghosts talking, rather it's simply, with the people you play it with, or even yourself, unconscious sort of nervous movements
12:04:57 <MrMobodies> aah the imagination
12:05:25 <Ampera> Sort of like a placebo in a way, where the belief that a supernatural will be contacted is reflected by the players into movements they don't even really know they're doing
12:05:50 <Ampera> your body moving in a way you're not expecting, especially when it's conflicting with the wonder if other people might be moving it too, is what adds to its mystic qualities
12:06:00 <arch> and i quote T3sl4 here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/place-mov-before-or-after-cm-choke/msg1357240/#msg1357240
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12:10:00 <MrMobodies> the mov before and after the choke... no differences in that thread
12:10:09 <MrMobodies> eevblog become very handy
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12:10:23 <MrMobodies> for finding things
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12:35:27 <Halcyon> Ampera
12:35:51 <Ampera> telephony?
12:35:55 <Halcyon> Discordy?
12:35:58 <Ampera> ew
12:36:01 <Ampera> telephony
12:36:05 <Halcyon> Fine, call me on the phone/Signal
12:42:28 <arch> call your mother
12:42:34 <arch> ask her how she is :D
12:54:10 <Halcyon> Meh
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13:05:12 <Ampera> arch, why, I'm going to see her tomorrow
13:05:34 <arch> cool :3
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13:20:45 <Halcyon> Pointy
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13:31:49 <arch> i just dumped a buncha topswitch appnotes in batch: for i in {1..62}; do wget https://www.power.com/sites/default/files/documents/der$i.pdf; done
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13:33:21 <Kuschelpony> good morning from germany to al nice people
13:33:25 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/QWmbGRs.png
13:33:32 <arch> if it looks stupid, but it works, it's not stupid
13:33:33 <Halcyon> Morning Kuschelpony
13:33:43 <Halcyon> It has just gone afternoon here in Sydney
13:34:12 <Kuschelpony> itzs 5:33 here, im a bit lazy today as i took a holiday
13:34:30 <Kuschelpony> continue to rebuild the account from my broken laptop
13:36:51 <Kuschelpony> trying to get started with https://github.com/unode/firefox_decrypt
13:36:53 <EEVBot> [Title] - GitHub - unode/firefox_decrypt: Firefox Decrypt is a tool to extract passwords from Mozilla (Firefox™, Waterfox™, Thunderbird®, SeaMonkey®) profiles
13:38:28 <arch> hackerman
13:39:16 <Kuschelpony> thats not hacking, thats just doing what firefox did all the years before, moved to an external program
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13:46:23 <Kuschelpony> arg, it says still al the time my files are protected by a master password but i am absolutly sure i never set one
13:50:35 <Kuschelpony> hmm perhaps somethign wrong with a library, need to change into admin account
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16:25:43 <T3sl4> buh
16:25:55 <Halcyon> Hello drunky
16:26:14 <Halcyon> How was karaoke?
16:27:26 <T3sl4> karaokey
16:28:40 <T3sl4> theres a few regulars that are just lovely, lots of 80-90s stuff, or older, or newer
16:28:45 <T3sl4> y'know
16:28:52 <Halcyon> What did you sing?
16:29:11 <T3sl4> lemme see, i opened with Monkey Wrench
16:30:19 <Halcyon> Good good!
16:31:14 <T3sl4> the buh is, walking back, i was actually stopped by, not just police but sheriff, apparently they're investigating gunshots heard in the area :/
16:31:52 <T3sl4> also heard/saw a drone flying over the pond, with some green and red lights, didn't check back to ask if that was theirs but i suppose so
16:33:14 <T3sl4> assuming, given it was sherriff not police, that it was a credible threat, so that's not great
16:33:34 <Halcyon> What's the difference between police and sherriffs?
16:33:43 <T3sl4> sheriff is county
16:33:50 <Halcyon> Oh right
16:33:57 <Halcyon> Seems like a bit of needless overlap ?
16:35:13 <T3sl4> shrug
16:36:23 <Halcyon> You Americans. You make me laugh
16:36:29 <T3sl4> i also made a point of exiting the path (not sure if the trail i was on technically closes, but the park around it does after hours), and also because the other side of the street where they were was better lit
16:37:07 <Halcyon> More importantly.... I want to hear you singing Monkey Wrench
16:37:21 <T3sl4> you don't want to be my monkey wrench
16:37:31 <Halcyon> You don't know that for sure
16:37:39 <T3sl4> (fall in, fall out)
16:40:31 <T3sl4> then i did Ozzy - Mama I'm Coming Home
16:41:08 <DHess_US> Halcyon, sheriffs are elected and within their jurisdiction, second in power to the governor.
16:41:25 <DHess_US> Or more powerful depending on the situation.
16:41:50 <DHess_US> Since a sheriff can ignore the governor.
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16:58:54 <Halcyon> Sounds weird DHess_US
17:01:15 <T3sl4> welcome to america
17:21:04 <T3sl4> /me squirts Ampera with https://i.imgur.com/wf4AmAU.png
17:45:28 <Halcyon> Hehe saucy sauce
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18:07:22 <K> hello crashes]
18:09:09 <K> and yes, i am very special.
18:09:38 <K> not that i've been told that, but i just know. in my heart.
18:11:41 <Halcyon> We love you K
18:11:47 <Halcyon> You and your quirks
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18:50:48 <Halcyon> Want
19:01:07 <K> looks nice
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23:51:31 <electrohead> o/