// #eevblog — 2021-09-23
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00:13:42 <T3sl4> a disparate dispotat!
00:26:37 <T3sl4> brr, it's down to 14C out there
00:26:47 <T3sl4> guess i better close the windows
00:28:05 <K> 14C is hawt
00:28:10 <K> +10C here
00:28:21 * T3sl4 kindles a fire by K
00:32:10 <K> posh
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00:51:15 <electrohead> T3sl4: whatever relays/components you know of, share away
00:52:24 <T3sl4> hm, there's one i know of, but i don't have the design files handy to look up the part number
00:52:32 <T3sl4> so i guess i don't know of any after all ;p
00:52:43 <T3sl4> should be easy enough to find more tho
00:52:47 <T3sl4> digikey etc
00:53:00 <Jens> https://www.ebay.com/itm/GUSTARD-Nano-Alloy-High-end-HiFi-Fuse-for-U16-C16-X16-A18-P26-X22-A22-X26-H20/284273882373
00:53:01 <EEVBot> [Title] - GUSTARD Nano Alloy High-end HiFi Fuse for U16 C16 X16 A18 P26 X22 A22 X26 H20 | eBay
00:53:55 * T3sl4 squirts mustard on Jens
00:54:12 <Jens> Not the worst I've had squirted on me today.
00:54:15 <K> hifi fuse yay
00:54:40 <K> ill take ten
00:56:13 <Jens> I should have started a business selling audiophile crap.
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00:56:49 <T3sl4> they literally buy rocks that keep tigers away
00:57:05 <Jens> I haven't heard about that, but I believe it.
00:57:13 <T3sl4> maybe harder to sell those in india, but vancouver for sure
00:57:26 * Ampera hugs Dude
00:57:30 <Ampera> hullo d00d
00:57:35 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw
00:57:35 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The Simpsons Anti-Tiger Rock
00:57:53 <Jens> A long time ago, I remember reading about a volume knob made of something esoteric. A fucking knob.
00:58:43 <T3sl4> now i'm kind of curious if someone's taken random assorted and/or partly smashed up knobs, embedded them in resin, and turned the whole fucking mess down into more knobs
00:58:57 <T3sl4> now that i mention it, that sounds pretty fucking cool
00:59:06 * Ampera fucks T3sl4's knob
00:59:11 * T3sl4 twists Ampera's knob
00:59:19 <Ampera> oh, the knob fell off
00:59:30 * T3sl4 eats it with fava beans and chianti
00:59:30 <K> knobless
00:59:42 * Ampera beats T3sl4 senseless with a naan
01:00:12 * T3sl4 , losing all sense, smears it with an entirely unreasonable amount of garlic and ghee
01:00:40 <Ampera> you and your glee and ghee
01:03:21 <Dude> hey
01:03:29 <Ampera> hi Dude, how are you
01:03:38 <T3sl4> just a regular Dude today?
01:03:54 Nick: Dude is now known as TheDude
01:04:01 <TheDude> think again •ᴗ•
01:04:03 <T3sl4> D: he's the one
01:04:14 <TheDude> doing alright
01:04:24 <TheDude> how are you lot?
01:04:28 <T3sl4> good
01:05:31 <Ampera> I am pissed
01:05:42 <Ampera> my saudi friend talked about food and now I want curry
01:06:00 <TheDude> saudi?
01:06:03 <T3sl4> so he's trying to curry favor?
01:06:06 <TheDude> like actually from saudi arabia?
01:06:08 <Ampera> yes
01:06:25 <Ampera> I've known him for a few years
01:06:28 <Ampera> one of my closest friends actually
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04:21:22 <watcher> are the Fluke TL220 SureGrip measuring probes handy/good for electronics use or more for industrial use
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05:53:25 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdA0mW-9jRs
05:53:26 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Clown Core - Van (Visual Album)
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07:16:27 <rust_collector> T3sl4 interesting
07:16:38 * Ampera hugs rust_collector
07:16:46 <Ampera> my favorite dane
07:17:19 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera, his favorite Ampera
07:17:20 <rust_collector> hey pre albanian person
07:17:40 <Ampera> T3sl4, nah, I'm probably the 4rd or 5nd best ampera around
07:18:13 <T3sl4> screw them
07:18:46 <Ampera> I've tried, but they never return my calls...
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08:09:33 <T3sl4> Ampera irl https://i.imgur.com/wMsGSrb.jpg
08:09:45 <Ampera> yep
08:10:00 <Ampera> my pronouns are NULL/DROP TABLE;
08:10:01 <rust_collector> wow
08:26:32 <electrohead> little bobby tables
08:38:12 <electrohead> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/canadian-voip-provider-hit-by-ddos-attack-phone-calls-disrupted/
08:38:12 <EEVBot> [Title] - Phone calls disrupted by ongoing DDoS cyber attack on VOIP.ms | Ars Technica
08:38:14 <electrohead> >:O
08:38:23 <electrohead> GOD DAMN IT
08:38:34 <electrohead> And *that's* why my PBX can't call outbound right now
08:38:39 <electrohead> For fuck's sake..
08:39:09 * Ampera HA-HA's electrohead
08:39:26 <electrohead> Seriously? "Ha-ha?"
08:39:37 <electrohead> Now I can't wait until something you rely on gets DDoS'd
08:39:51 <Ampera> lol, been there, done that
08:39:57 <Ampera> and then some
08:40:16 <electrohead> Heh
08:40:18 <rust_collector> pbx?
08:40:32 <electrohead> rust_collector: yeah, I use Asterisk/FreePBX
08:40:37 <Ampera> -1 for FreePBX
08:40:42 <electrohead> Oh stfu
08:40:46 <Ampera> no u
08:40:53 <Ampera> FreeBSD > FreePBX
08:41:15 * electrohead viciously strangles Ampera with a random mouse cord
08:41:19 <Ampera> afaik FreePBX doesn't even work on my hardware anymore
08:41:22 <Ampera> so it's kinda dead to me
08:41:30 <electrohead> Ahh
08:41:38 <Ampera> not that it worked on my hardware in the first place
08:41:53 <Ampera> it was a nightmare to install the first time I tried to, and it was an unstable unusable mess
08:42:02 <Ampera> the webpanel was completely broken, and there was no rhyme or reason as to why
08:42:17 <rust_collector> oh. pbx.
08:42:22 <Ampera> I threw some stuff together in FreeBSD and it worked fine right up until the SSD burst into flames
08:42:34 <gremlinz> https://i.giphy.com/media/cO39srN2EUIRaVqaVq/giphy.webp
08:43:27 * Ampera gives gremlinz the simpsons reference of the day award
08:43:52 <gremlinz> woohoo i'll take it
08:46:50 * Ampera hugs electrohead
08:46:54 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/2YL3IPS.mp4
08:46:57 <Ampera> besides being telecommunicationally impaired, how are you doing
08:47:19 * Ampera milks T3sl4 for all he's worth
08:47:29 * T3sl4 nipples Ampera
08:47:34 * Ampera boobs T3sl4
08:47:50 <Ampera> you were the breast of us, but then you let us all down
08:48:47 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/UREU5B9.jpg
08:49:18 * Ampera pets T3sl4's spider cat
08:50:56 <T3sl4> also Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/n7duRt3.mp4
08:51:07 <Ampera> I agree.
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11:28:25 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:29:17 <steve30> hi
11:30:38 <MrMobodies> I think I might have started an argument in a threat I started
11:30:48 <MrMobodies> I didn't mean insult religous people
11:31:26 <MrMobodies> I was once helped by the Mormons back over 20 years and I tried fit in and I know every religion is different
11:31:52 <MrMobodies> when I was 10 or so I had computers around and I was free to do what i like with them
11:32:10 <MrMobodies> diskletes with operating systems on them
11:32:19 <MrMobodies> but I found this article in the news paper
11:32:33 <MrMobodies> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/google-family-link/
11:32:35 <EEVBot> [Title] - Google Family Link - Page 1
11:33:09 <MrMobodies> and wondered if my parents set restrictions like that on my stuff and monitored everything i do on there
11:33:33 <MrMobodies> I need a bit space and freedom as long as I don't cause trouble
11:33:48 <MrMobodies> and would feel upset about that
11:33:59 <MrMobodies> but now I do understand some people can't control themselves
11:34:08 <MrMobodies> did I insult ETI in that thread?
11:34:21 <steve30> Having such controls on computers wasn't really a thing 20 years ago
11:34:33 <steve30> (other than parental controls for the WWW)
11:35:21 <steve30> Its a lot more relevant today with children having regular access to pocket size computers, and may even be reliant on them for entertainment, communication, etc, when 20 years ago we weren't.
11:35:34 <steve30> Not that I approve of Google overseeing such restrictions.
11:35:53 <MrMobodies> me if I didn't trust I wouldn't give them it
11:36:27 <MrMobodies> I'd use a trust based approach and responsibility to keep themselves behaved and under control
11:36:30 <MrMobodies> like with me
11:36:45 <MrMobodies> and if can't do that then restrictions come in
11:37:24 <MrMobodies> but I was allowed to watch all the horror films that were 18 and i knew it was only play acting
11:37:50 <MrMobodies> whatever was on the television
11:38:05 <steve30> some children (and parents) won't be as responsible as you
11:38:09 <MrMobodies> but then not everyone may not know the difference
11:38:11 <MrMobodies> aaah
11:38:42 <MrMobodies> well I hope I didn't upset that Christian
11:39:26 <MrMobodies> they say "if you don't ask you don't get" but sometimes i wasn't listened to and the thing given to me was not suitable but I don't know I don't mean to be demanding.
11:40:05 <MrMobodies> Oh right he's okay now
11:40:09 <MrMobodies> ETI
11:40:50 <MrMobodies> sometimes I panic a bit
11:40:53 <MrMobodies> sorry about that
11:41:10 <steve30> I think eti is sometimes a tad over the top
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15:59:30 <watcher> hi
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17:42:57 * Ampera launches signal flares in Halcyon's general direction
17:47:25 <K> hello brushes
17:49:00 * Ampera attacks K with a burning potato
17:49:05 <K> nooooo
17:49:17 <K> y u burt holy potat, you savage
17:49:32 <Ampera> >:D
17:49:34 <Ampera> I AM POTATO SATAN
17:49:40 <K> give american a potat, he burn it
18:48:06 <hsn> Lol saudi ppl
18:48:27 <hsn> They draw women going to the moon
18:48:45 <hsn> But draw the moon on the background
18:48:47 <hsn> https://twitter.com/TotallyHaram/status/1440723914989072387?s=08
18:49:25 <hsn> Also that sand is a lot
19:02:01 <Ampera> one of my best friends is saudi
19:02:07 <Ampera> I'd say that's about accurate
19:02:26 <Ampera> also good morning hsn, how are you
19:06:20 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
19:06:21 <Halcyon> Miss you
19:06:24 <Ampera> <3
19:06:25 <Ampera> miss me?
19:06:30 <Ampera> I've never even met you
19:06:40 <Ampera> tae fuq you talkin about
19:07:14 <hsn> Hello ampera i got disconnected im great thanks. Im going out driving now so cya
19:07:17 <Ampera> I wish C# had union types
19:07:18 <Ampera> ciao
19:07:42 <Halcyon> :)
19:07:44 <Halcyon> I am so tired
19:07:48 <K> haha that pic
19:08:02 * Ampera attacks Halcyon with a strong cup of english breakfast tea
19:08:18 <Halcyon> I just got home from work, I'm going to have a stiff drink, some home made pizza, then sleep
19:08:40 <Halcyon> I have a 7.5 hour drive on Monday
19:08:41 <K> what about culture?
19:09:03 <Ampera> culture is a myth
19:09:14 <Ampera> culture is just different stages of dementia
19:12:30 <K> mythical dementia
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23:38:44 <electrohead> o/
23:41:01 * Ampera hugs electrohead
23:41:04 <Ampera> how are you doing powerguy?
23:41:10 <Ampera> did your telco ever stop getting buttfucked?
23:44:21 <electrohead> lol, no idea
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23:47:42 <Nothing\> gutenday
23:48:00 <Nothing\> mein nippels brennen mit gluck!
23:48:20 <Ampera> electrohead, besides that, how good is your telco usually
23:48:22 <Nothing\> also my shirt smells like the 90s lol
23:48:35 <Ampera> I'm occasionally on the look of a good SIP provider for the day I can be fucked to set my PBX up
23:49:10 <Ampera> I know jspiros uses twillio, but their prices are firmly in the "meh" category
23:49:12 <Nothing\> found an old bottle of CK1 cologne from when i was a teen
23:49:40 <electrohead> Ampera: I use twilio as well, just not as much
23:49:50 <electrohead> but, for the most part, voip.ms is pretty decent
23:49:58 <Ampera> are they cheaper?
23:50:07 <electrohead> when not being DDoS'd, they have amazing uptime and support
23:50:13 <electrohead> yes they are
23:50:19 <Ampera> I was gonna go look at them, but if they're being DDoS'd
23:50:47 <Ampera> Anyone can be DDoS'd I suppose. That does quite suck for a phone system, and would be something I'd have to consider if I were to start relying on my PBX
23:51:11 <Ampera> ideally I'd have my real numbers handled there, and then have my cellphone number be a frontend that gets linked up
23:51:32 <Ampera> so that way I can deal with my own voicemail and any phone number I have from a telco is immediately disposable
23:51:51 <electrohead> voipms/XXXXXX 23.29.136.38 Yes Yes 5060 UNREACHABLE
23:51:54 <electrohead> >.<
23:52:13 <electrohead> I'm not in the mood to get a new provider, yet if I have to, I will
23:52:35 <electrohead> because I literally wanted to use my PBX to host a demo for the company I work for, in regards to part of a new system (we) want
23:52:39 <Nothing\> heya electrohead
23:52:44 <Ampera> I wish phone numbers could be held independent of provider, that way I could have provider failover
23:52:45 <electrohead> so, I just may have to register something new, to get by
23:52:46 <Nothing\> how's it going mang?
23:52:50 <electrohead> hey Nothing\
23:52:57 <electrohead> honestly? pissed
23:53:06 <electrohead> voip.ms is being ddos'd
23:53:07 <Nothing\> aww i'm sorry to hear it
23:53:12 <Nothing\> aw shit
23:53:24 <Nothing\> i always thought such attacks were so senseless
23:53:27 <electrohead> they are
23:53:31 <Nothing\> almost literally
23:53:45 <Nothing\> i mean in the odd case they are purposeful
23:53:52 <electrohead> no, they are not
23:53:59 <electrohead> it's completely fucking stupid and pointless
23:54:05 <Ampera> They are as purposeful as a riot.
23:54:12 <electrohead> "let's use the internet to flood somebody and fuck with them"
23:54:14 <Nothing\> electrohead, i mean purposeful in that they are done with some intent in mind
23:54:19 <Nothing\> rather than just to cause random chaos
23:54:19 <Ampera> Funny right up until they come for you
23:54:20 <electrohead> yeah, bad intent
23:54:23 <Nothing\> yes
23:54:44 <Nothing\> like at my old irc server we used to get ddosed by angry users who had been banned
23:55:18 <Ampera> I've been reading about ENUM, which seems like a cool technology
23:55:21 <Nothing\> we got a lot of people with no lives apparently, so they'd spend days at a time trying to evade and ddossing us and doing malicious shits, keeping the opers and admins on their toes constantly
23:56:17 <Nothing\> meanwhile, the server/main channel tried to operate on a democratic premise, where permabans were only implemented through a vote of the staff
23:56:35 <Nothing\> and likewise appeals could be filed and reviewed etc
23:56:38 <electrohead> anyone in here successfully ever migrate from iptables to nftables?
23:56:54 <Nothing\> and likewise opers were appointed by similar votes
23:57:14 <Nothing\> but it didn't work, it just wound up being a popularity contest
23:57:25 <Nothing\> friends would elect friends and gang up on enemies to ban them
23:57:33 <Nothing\> basic political drama
23:58:00 <Nothing\> i even got sucked into it when i became an oper. I became emotionally involved with another oper.
23:58:04 <Nothing\> big mistake
23:58:15 <Nothing\> and she in turn became involved with yet another oper on the side
23:58:33 * Ampera throws the broken dreams of a ROCKPro64 router at electrohead
23:58:40 <Nothing\> so when she left me for him, far be it for me to be pissed off or say anything to make either of them feel bad about it
23:58:47 <Ampera> The day I stop being lazy is the day marvelous things shall happen
23:58:47 <Nothing\> and of course i was stripped of my oper status
23:58:52 <Nothing\> so i was at their whim
23:59:31 <Nothing\> ultimately i had enough and just called them a bunch of stuck up cunts in as many words and took the inevitable permaban with grace and tact
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