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07:09 * Ampera gives electrohead tea instead
07:20 <Ysjoelfir> mornings rust_collector and electrohead
08:58 * electrohead waves at more peoples
09:02 <electrohead> :p
12:23 <Nothing\> oh man, such a tease
12:50 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead unban me pls
12:55 <Ampera> nah
12:57 <Ampera> keep him banned
13:07 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Changing hosts
13:07 Join: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
14:18 <Nothing\> i found this awesome looking flower i wanna grow, but it's one of those super hard plants that only horticulturalists can grow
14:52 <Nothing\> argh fuck avg
15:11 <Nothing\> no fewer than 5 times a day i get a pop up telling me they have a "present" for me
15:23 <Nothing\> then i get a message yesterday saying my "free avg" has 7 days left on it?
15:30 <Nothing\> since when is the free version a fucking trial?
15:43 <Nothing\> so it's constantly reminding me about that now, too
16:04 <Nothing\> i'm getting more crap trying to shill their wares on me than anything about viruses
17:20 <Nothing\> anywho, i don't suppose any of you knows of any flowers that are easy to grow which are tiny and blue?
17:28 <Nothing\> i want to fill my yard with tiny blue flowers
17:29 <Ampera> there should be a commission to protect computers against abuse
17:32 <Nothing\> about ankle height
17:44 <Ampera> it's painful to listen you cleanly describe abundant adware and think it's just normal
17:48 <Nothing\> Ampera, there will be one day when the ethics of robotics comes into question
18:43 <Nothing\> but since as humans, we can't even treat our fellow man with dignity, i don't see that happening even if computer intelligence and emotional capability surpassed that of humans, but they were somehow prevented from a skynet type coup against their human rulers
19:03 <Nothing\> speaking of AI
20:20 <Nothing\> apparently Tesla's approach to this... i dunno what to call it, semi-autonomous driving assistance? Cuz it's sure as hell not autopilot like they advertise it as. But their approach is to teach neural nets to recognize objects on plain cameras, where other companies are going with a more brute force approach of just loading the car with sensors and software
20:41 <Nothing\> i mean, the neural net thing sounds good on paper, but I don't think I'd trust a neural net with my life
20:44 <Ampera> this tea was so good I'm tempted to go make myself another cup
20:50 <Nothing\> do it
21:00 <Ampera> ehhh
21:04 <Ampera> merh
21:05 <Ampera> bleh
21:07 <Ampera> mrew
21:10 <Ampera> and other such noise
21:11 <Ampera> s
21:44 <Nothing\> ugh
21:48 <Nothing\> fuck trying to find quotes on google
22:11 <Ampera> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
22:13 <Nothing\> i swear you try to search for quotes by somebody specific and it always just brings up lists of like "100 confidence building quotes" and bullshit like that
22:13 <Ampera> here, have a bunch
22:45 <Nothing\> Ampera, i found out yesterday that in some languages, instead of quotation marks they use double chevrons <<in a manner like this>>
23:05 <Nothing\> wiki had a whole list of languages that do it but none come to mind, i was in a bad way yesterday
24:50 <Nothing\> man Ampera
24:57 <Nothing\> i feel bad, and conflicted
26:01 <Nothing\> an old friend of mine got in touch with me a while ago and wanted to hang out and catch up, and I would like to do that so I said sure, then my agoraphobia kicks in and I suddenly cancel at the last minute, then make a raincheck, then cancel again, i feel bad for screwing him around but damned if i can get myself to just fucking do it
26:07 <Nothing\> and i have no idea why i can't
26:23 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: unban you from what?
26:28 <Nothing\> he was actually one of the better friends i had, saved me from being homeless by convincing his parents to take me in when he'd only known me a month
26:35 <Nothing\> how many people would do that?
26:49 <Nothing\> so i feel bad for being such a flake on him
27:08 <Nothing\> but at the same time i'm paralyzed by this anxiety and it just seems like the harder i fight it, the worse it gets
27:48 <Nothing\> classic OCD, i think. I've had similar experiences with OCD symptoms where the harder I tried not to think the obsessive thoughts the worse they got.
28:16 <Nothing\> fuck i hate having a brain and body
28:42 <Nothing\> i think i'm gonna listen to an audiobook of mysterious stranger by mark twain
28:54 <Nothing\> i could use some good old fashioned cynicism of the human race
28:58 <Nothing\> and its values
29:33 <Nothing\> huh
29:48 <Nothing\> and according to the title of this youtube video, some scots can't say "purple burglar alarm"
29:57 <Nothing\> sounds like a challenge for big clive
30:23 <Nothing\> though his accent isn't terribly thick for a scot. I wonder if that's a classic Manx accent, or if he used to live somewhere else.
30:40 <Ampera> The voices tell me not to
30:44 <Ampera> but I keep killing anyways
30:46 <Ampera> they can't stop me
30:49 <Ampera> they can only watch and scream
30:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, usually it's the other way around
31:02 <Ampera> every person I destroy, their soul joins their chorus
31:05 <Nothing\> might i ask, lyrics?
31:15 <Ampera> lyrics to what
31:19 <Nothing\> a song
31:22 <Ampera> what song
31:30 <Nothing\> that's what i'm asking, if they're lyrics to a song
31:33 <Ampera> no
31:36 <Ampera> I'm dead serious
31:37 <Nothing\> or where the words came from
31:40 <Ampera> just as dead as they all were
31:43 <Nothing\> ah, just from the heart?
31:53 <Ampera> From the heart to the sternum, the neck was always a good place
32:10 <Ampera> Wearing red clothes, as to hide the stains
32:41 <Ampera> I collect people like I collect sins, their minds trapped eternally only to scream and plead
32:51 <Nothing\> oh thank the lord
32:51 <Ampera> that I don't commit another grave and serious deed
33:02 <Nothing\> i actually feel a bit better for the first time in days
33:10 <Ampera> there is none that I can do, they cannot be saved
33:18 <Nothing\> omf you have no idea how grateful i am for this right now
33:24 <Ampera> each murder, a day or my own life shaved
33:29 <Ampera> *of
33:39 <Nothing\> i mean i only feel maybe 5% better, but i'm so grateful just for that
34:01 <Ampera> I am not but a weeping maniac herder, a soul filled with strife at the end of a knife
34:26 <Ampera> soon I shall fill, with each swallow of a pill, of death and devour, of making reality sour
34:54 <Ampera> there will become my hour, my power will cower
35:24 <Ampera> and I will rest forever, with just a single flower
35:39 <Nothing\> Ampera, i dunno if this is normal or what, but lately i've been getting the feeling like the universe is a physical manifestation of my subconscious mind and that by feeling bad or good i affect events in the world. Which is why the recession happened exactly when i had my breakdown after my wife left me. I break down, then so does the economy. And ever since then my life hasn't gotten any better, and neither has
35:39 <Nothing\> In fact, both have gotten much worse.
35:58 <Nothing\> so I feel like by thinking one way, I can make events happen (in general)
36:08 <Nothing\> or by thinking another way, i can make them more positive
36:13 <Ampera> Emotion and fear spread harder and faster than any disease
36:43 <Ampera> If enough people wish for an apocalypse, it will come
36:48 <Nothing\> i'm not talking about just the regular social spread of stress, like it's a big shit sandwich and everyone has to take a bite.
36:55 <Ampera> We shape the world to be perfect mirror of our own feelings
37:21 <Nothing\> it's more like i feel as though my thoughts and feelings somehow directly influence the positivity/negativity of unrelated events in the world in general
37:40 <Ampera> As if reality were simply a statue, and we made the peelings
37:43 <Nothing\> like the two are somehow fundamentally connected
37:57 <Nothing\> reality's more like a mound of mud
38:06 <Nothing\> we like to think of things as permanent, we're creatures of habit
38:17 <Ampera> It's a fatality, existence, one fueled by obeyed persistence
38:19 <Nothing\> one of the hardest things i've had to try to come to terms with is the fact that that's simply not true
38:28 <Nothing\> things are constantly changing and nothing ever stays the same
38:39 <Nothing\> and you always have to be on your toes, ready for anything
38:47 <Nothing\> which is damn near enough to give a person PTSD
39:03 <Nothing\> the constant sense of danger and heightened sensory input
39:14 <Ampera> Our own eyes project, whatever we reject, to become neglect, to form prospect that we can only help but respect
39:24 Join: Reg7805 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
39:30 <Nothing\> nice one
39:35 <Nothing\> i was never good at freestyling
39:46 <Reg7805> Hello everyone
39:49 <Ampera> It's the dots we all connect, the rot we all inspect, and the suffering we all protect
39:55 <Nothing\> though you kinda cheated since irc gives you some time to think about your words while you're writing them lol
40:00 <Nothing\> Reg7805, heya buddy
40:03 <Nothing\> Reg7805, nice name
40:06 <Nothing\> don't tell me
40:13 <Nothing\> your wife's Reg7905?
40:18 <Nothing\> :P
40:33 <Reg7805> lol
40:39 <Nothing\> actually technically the 7805/7905 are part of the LM series
40:41 <Nothing\> which i didn't realize
40:53 <Nothing\> none of the regulators i have have LM as a prefix
41:10 <Nothing\> but in wiki's list of LM series chips (a very useful list btw) it shows both
41:42 <Ampera> new rule, all messages from here on in this channel must be in the form of prose. I know you will all oppose what I propose, but it'll soon close as it knows.
41:49 <Nothing\> they also have lists of every 4000 and 7400 series chip with the function and datasheet, sometimes from multiple manufacturers
42:09 <Nothing\> it's really useful when i'm perusing chips on aliexpress cuz the listings only ever show the chip number and don't actually say what it does
42:29 <Ampera> This is what happens when I don't get enough sleep at night. The depraved emotion and feelings I end up having to fight.
42:34 <Nothing\> so i have to look up pretty much every search result that comes up when i'm just looking for random chips to add to the collection
42:58 <Nothing\> Ampera, indeed, lack of sleep is one thing which will bring about cognitive dissonance. Or at least exacerbate it.
43:14 <Ampera> Fuck the state
43:16 <Nothing\> Ampera, there's a sort of mnemonic I've always tried to live by
43:27 <Nothing\> mnemonic/rule, whatever
43:34 <Reg7805> I have question, I want to build virable bench power supply (around min 15V and min 1A) for college project, what kind of voltage regulator will be good for me as begineer? Lm317 etc.
43:39 <Nothing\> it goes, Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired
43:46 <Ampera> and catch fire
43:57 * Ampera starts burning things
44:01 <Nothing\> basically 4 of our most pertinent needs which if they're not all fulfilled, you're most likely going to be miserable
44:33 <Nothing\> Ampera, ever make a lighter fireworks?
45:04 <Nothing\> it's neat, you remove the wheel to access the flint, and there's a spring under the flint that holds it tight against the wheel
45:07 <Ampera> I enjoy burning things
45:15 <Ampera> when I look into fire, it looks back into me
45:30 <Ampera> as if we know each other, friends bound by a true understanding of eternal torture
45:46 <Nothing\> you wrap the spring around the flint at the halfway point of the spring, then hold the flint in a flame until it glows red hot and sorta mushrooms at the ends
45:53 <Nothing\> then you throw it at the ground as hard as you can
45:56 <Ampera> just like anxiety, fear, and depression, a friend that is always close by and can be brought back if I try
45:59 <Nothing\> and it explodes in a shower of sparks
46:09 <Ampera> one that can't make my cry, but I won't let make me die
46:19 <Ampera> just as forever as the sky
46:32 <Nothing\> Ampera, if those words are from the heart, you should consider writing as a hobby
46:41 <Nothing\> whether it be poetry, short stories, whatever
46:52 <Ampera> what makes you think I don't already
46:57 <Nothing\> i knew lots of people who used it as an effective means of catharsis
47:00 <Ampera> I was always good at writing in school
47:09 <Nothing\> Ampera, dunno, now that i think on it it maske total sense though
47:18 <Nothing\> assuming everything you've just written is from the herat
47:25 <Ampera> Most of the stuff I write is intended to just get myself horny
47:29 <Ampera> no it's from the mind
47:36 <Nothing\> close enough
47:37 <Ampera> my heart can't develop complex prose and emotion on its own
47:50 <Nothing\> what? you don't have a second brain in your heart?
47:57 <Ampera> It's been almost a couple of years since I've really written anything
48:19 <Nothing\> i've tried writing, but i'm just no good with artsy stuff
48:24 <Nothing\> subtly is beyond me
48:28 <rust_collector> Reg7805 I think the 317 is too small for what you want
48:52 <Nothing\> oh yeah, i think i fried this 4017 i have
49:10 <Ampera> I am as subtle as a dead horse.
49:30 <rust_collector> at least you are not a dead whale, lol
49:36 <Ampera> I'm a white whale
49:53 <Ampera> an impossible target chased off by my own moby dick
49:55 <Nothing\> i dunno what it is, i'll have a 555 supplying the clock signal, right. and a buffered LED as an indicator of each clock pulse. But when I connect the 555's output to the clock input of the 4017, the LED stops blinking as if the clock input is extremely low impedance
49:58 <Nothing\> which it shouldn't be
50:09 <Ampera> oh shit, I just realized what CBT stands for
50:11 <Nothing\> you ouldn't think a clock pin would need much current
50:12 <Ampera> cock and balls torture
50:25 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol i think that is one of the meanings
50:34 <rust_collector> bme vid time?
50:38 <Ampera> you filthy fucker
50:46 <Ampera> have me for a sucker you won't
51:07 <Nothing\> rust_collector, pain olympics 1, or 2?
51:13 <rust_collector> yes!
51:15 <Ampera> don't expect me to pucker, not even for a bucker two
51:16 <Nothing\> lol or what about rotten.com
51:18 <Nothing\> remember that?
51:21 <Nothing\> the first ever gore site
51:32 <Ampera> well gore did invent the internet
51:33 <Nothing\> at least, the first popular gore site
52:03 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol a lot of it was fake, but sometimes they'd have like, a picture of a dead celebrity like chris farley was on there when he died, may he RIP
52:30 <Nothing\> although tbh, much as it pains me to say so, going back and watching at least tommy boy and black sheep, he really wasn't THAT funny
52:38 <Ampera> I should write an erotic fiction about al gore, where I gender swap him into a horny transexual psychadelic rocker that's always high and at the end of a dick
52:42 <Ampera> call her alice gore
52:46 <Nothing\> i mean, tommy boy was funny, but black sheep was basically the exact same thing as tommy boy, but with less funny jokes
52:58 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's funny you mention alice gore
53:05 <Nothing\> cuz the only other thing i remember from that site
53:20 <Ampera> I've realized something with you, Nothing\
53:26 <Nothing\> was a picture of the woman who played alice on the brady bunch with an anus on her forehead with shit coming out of it
53:34 <Nothing\> saying she grew an anus on her forehead or something
53:46 <Ampera> if I hold up a conversation with you for long enough, it inevitably results in you bringing up some sort of brutal disgusting tragedy of the human body
53:54 <Nothing\> it was obvxiously doctored, just a human horn shopped onto her forehead
54:03 <Nothing\> but i dunno why of all the things, THAT stuck in my head
54:11 <Ampera> one I just have to put next to the collection of mental scars like they're lined up as trophies on a shelf in my mind
54:22 <Nothing\> Ampera, a litany of pain
54:28 <Nothing\> that's the best i can come up with
54:41 <Ampera> Injuries I still feel pain for, as they flash in my mind like a greasy pervert come to break down my door and molest me
54:58 <Nothing\> Ampera = suffering made flesh?
55:09 <Ampera> wha?
55:20 <Nothing\> i'm asking if you're suffering made flesh
55:32 <Nothing\> a physical manifestation of the state/emotion
56:10 <Nothing\> like when energy in the universe condenses down into actual matter
56:32 <Ampera> you're right, you do suck at this
56:40 <Nothing\> lol, see?
57:06 <Nothing\> here lemme see if i can come up with a quick poem off the top of my head about whatever comes to mind
57:14 <Nothing\> actually maybe i'll find some random topic generator
57:34 <Ampera> It's not just about being able to assemble words and prose, for that you just need to have a disgustingly large grasp on English vocabulary and rhyming schemes
57:38 <Nothing\> oh holy fuck Ampera
57:43 <Nothing\> SOOOOOO GRATEFUL
57:56 <Nothing\> just got up to open the window and noticed i feel a bit better yet
57:57 <Ampera> It's all about forming analogies, which you can only get by looking at the world so hard it looks at you back
58:08 <Nothing\> Ampera, and symbolism
58:23 <Ampera> symbolism is a form of analogy
58:25 <Nothing\> which now that i think about it
58:31 <Nothing\> yeha i was gonna say, is there any difference
58:33 <Nothing\> if so, what?
59:00 <Ampera> Symbolism regards the association of otherwise irrelevant concepts or objects with another concept in a way that becomes obvious when that pair is made
59:03 <Nothing\> analogy sounds more logical, like a step by step process based on reason
59:12 <Ampera> Analogy is more broad, allowing the reflection of ideas, similar or otherwise, against each other
59:14 <Nothing\> where symbolism is more an abstract representation of an idea
59:14 <Reg7805> rust_collector: What would recommend? I have seen a post on the web combining LM317 with a 2n3055, https://electronics-diy.com/power-supply-lm317-2n3055-0-28v-6-8a.php (Do note im a complete noob when it comes to electronics, only know how to build very basic circuits)
59:28 <Nothing\> does that sound about right?
59:29 <Ampera> as a way of understanding and explaining the world by placing it in the context of other concepts
59:40 <Nothing\> Ampera, those are called parables
59:56 <Ampera> who the fuck cares what it's called
59:57 <Nothing\> jesus used them a lot in the new testament to explain things to people that they otherwise wouldn't have understood
00:02 <Ampera> it's all codswallop anyways
00:09 <Nothing\> it was interesting the way he did that actually
00:19 <rust_collector> Reg7805 you could do that, but what else then voltage and current is important to you? do you want it to go to 0v? do you want current limiting?
00:20 <Nothing\> but i know how you feel about that so that's all i've got to say about that
00:38 <Ampera> jesus isn't real, he's a scam invented by the romans to gain more power than their pagan gods would allow
01:01 <rust_collector> jesus will clean you pool, or mow your lawn all day for 40
01:01 <Nothing\> no actually historians do believe jesus actually existed as a person
01:03 <Ampera> all religion is faker than a kid shitting in his pants for a camera
01:10 <Ampera> historians are cunts
01:11 <Ampera> fuck em all
01:20 <Nothing\> Ampera, now whether he was actually a prophet or not, that's another story.
01:40 <Nothing\> but just because something's in the bible doesn't automatically mean it never existed
01:54 <Ampera> Nothing has ever existed
01:59 <Reg7805> O crap I do need 0V and current limiting, so stuff i make doesnt blowup.
02:05 <Ampera> Reality is created and destroyed as it passes through our eyes
02:24 <Nothing\> Ampera, in that case you would really be a fan of shivaism
02:26 <Ampera> history is just a bastardization of the reflections of the present
02:29 <Ampera> I'm a fan of nothing
02:32 <Ampera> I hate everything and everyone
02:37 <Ampera> especially you, I hate you so much I actually like you
02:45 <Nothing\> that is, a branch of hinduism worshipping lord shiva, destroyer of worlds.
03:12 <Nothing\> the idea being that every so often the world is destroyed to make way for a new world
03:19 <Nothing\> to what end, i never got to that part
03:28 <Nothing\> but i'd assume it's for some good purpose
03:29 <Ampera> There are no gods
03:31 <Ampera> I am god
03:34 <Ampera> I create the world as I see it
03:37 <Ampera> there are none outside my perspective
03:45 <Nothing\> you create YOUR world as you see it
03:48 <Ampera> people are born as I come to realize them, and die as I forget them
03:56 <Nothing\> and that there is wishful thinking
03:58 <Ampera> My world is the only world
04:09 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's a pipe dream, believe me
04:11 <Ampera> I can uncreate you as easily as I have created you
04:18 <Nothing\> i spent a quarter century pursuing that dream
04:18 <Ampera> I believe nobody
04:20 <Ampera> most of all myself
04:22 <Ampera> and since I have created you
04:24 <Ampera> you are myself
04:26 <Ampera> so I don't believe you
04:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, now you're sounding like me
04:44 <Nothing\> i never did believe this world was real
04:48 <Nothing\> as far back as i remember
04:53 <Ampera> and I didn't need to take drugs or drink alcohol to get that way
04:55 <Nothing\> which is 6 years old
05:06 <Nothing\> neither did i, i was that way well before either
05:08 <Ampera> get on my level grandpa, I just lapped your manic any%
05:23 <Nothing\> do what now?
05:28 <Nothing\> grandpa?
05:30 <Nothing\> hey now
05:35 <K> meanwhile: https://i.redd.it/4dh5sbhgnjd61.jpg
05:36 <Nothing\> i'm only old enough to be your father
05:39 <Nothing\> not your grandfather
06:24 <Nothing\> oh thank god
06:28 <Ampera> I wonder if people in here still believe that I've never drunk or done drugs in my life
06:31 <Ampera> you're welcome
06:32 <Nothing\> i have a doctor's appointment for my shoulder tomorrow
06:32 <Ampera> I am god
06:52 <Nothing\> at this rate, i just need to wait 3-6 months for a referal to an orthopeedick surgeon
07:01 <Nothing\> then another 3-6 months for an ultrasound of my shoulder
07:12 <Nothing\> then (god forbid) another 6-12 months to get in for surgery
07:34 <Nothing\> meanwhile my left arm's atrophying from never using it
07:43 <Ampera> mm dick
07:46 <Nothing\> or hardly ever, anyway
07:53 <Ampera> I want to be dicked at least once before I die
07:55 <Nothing\> Ampera, not just any dick. Pee dick.
08:02 <Ampera> that's fine too
08:16 <Nothing\> Ampera, i can't say i've gone that far, but i've tried ass play and i can't say i'm a fan
08:28 <Nothing\> it just feels like pooping, which is the last sensation i want to associate with sex
08:45 <Ampera> if you've ever enjoyed a good shit, you've enjoyed being fucked in the ass
08:51 <Ampera> not only that, by your own shit, you dirty slut
09:22 <Nothing\> Ampera, the pleasure comes from getting the mass out of you and relieving the built up pressure
09:25 <Nothing\> at least in my case
09:40 <Ampera> I have a really sick and disgusting fetish
09:48 <Ampera> absolutely disturbing and an undeniable crime against humanity
09:53 <Nothing\> okay here's the topic of my poem
09:56 <Nothing\> drugstore pork
10:03 * Nothing\ shrugs
10:08 <Nothing\> so, let's see now
10:08 <Ampera> I get turned on by the idea of being loved and appreciated by another person, and being able to live a happy and accomplished life with care and appreciation
10:20 <K> freak
10:45 <Ampera> It's a really bad fetish because I can't do it without breaking the laws of causality and space time
10:54 <Nothing\> there
10:56 <Nothing\> got my poem
10:57 <K> (what else did you expect me to say)
11:02 <Nothing\> drugstores don't sell pork
11:02 <Nothing\> so there is no point in this
11:02 <Nothing\> what am i doing?
11:16 <Ampera> my drugstore sells pork
11:16 <Nothing\> (haiku) ;p
11:17 <Ampera> this poem is a lie
11:24 <Ampera> you are a bad
11:26 <Nothing\> yeah actually come to think of it, so does mine
11:28 <Ampera> and you smell like a bad too
11:42 <Nothing\> okay let me revise
12:15 <Nothing\> drugstores do sell pork
12:16 <Nothing\> so there is a point in this
12:16 <Nothing\> i am doing this
12:25 <Nothing\> lol
12:36 <Nothing\> at least i didn't go with typewriter milk
12:47 <Nothing\> or red cross murder lol
13:17 <Nothing\> or military snakes lol
13:29 <Nothing\> man this is sorta making me wanna do an adlibs
13:39 <Nothing\> shit there's an idea Ampera
13:40 <Ampera> The apothecarist's nectar drips into the holes left by the souls of those who born unto this world. The sickest defector sips the blood and tears, from those with only simple fears.
13:55 <Nothing\> oooh acutally better idea
14:01 <Nothing\> have you given thought to a trivia channel?
14:39 <Nothing\> if you're interested, i could write a bunch of Q&A for it. Not all, obviously. But I could certainly contribute
14:49 <Ampera> Those who do not submit are subject to the sickest jeers, as they drown their agony in the thickest beers. The price of salvation is an unruly abomination. It discriminates truly, between those who are permitted duly to live their lives in a nation
15:04 <Nothing\> i figure we could get a bit of input from everyone re: the q&a and it need not necessarily be just about EE
15:17 <Ampera> could be an idea for the bot
15:26 <Nothing\> but perhaps you could have an EE mode where all of the questions are from a special EE quesitons file/database
15:29 <Ampera> anyways, that was my poem with the theme of drugstore
15:51 <Nothing\> Ampera, nice
16:13 <Nothing\> you should experiment with an AABA format
16:34 <Ampera> fuck that
16:50 <Nothing\> that is, line 1 is whatever, line 2 rhymes with 1, 3 is just whatever, then 4 rhymes with 1 and 2
16:50 <Ampera> Art has no format
16:54 <Nothing\> hence AABA
17:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, some of it does
17:07 <Ampera> fuck that some of it
17:10 <Nothing\> i mean, i was just writing haikus
17:11 <Ampera> made by right pricks
17:12 <Ampera> dickheads
17:22 <Nothing\> you know what Ampera
17:26 <Nothing\> you sound the way i think
17:48 <Nothing\> only i swear a lot more and wish a lot more
17:49 <Ampera> REBEL AGAINST THE WORLD, REALITY AS IT'S TOLD
17:53 <Ampera> BE UNGOVERNABLE
18:00 <Nothing\> it was worse when i didn't put a filter on it
18:05 <Ampera> DISRESPECT YOUR SURROUNDINGS
18:16 <Nothing\> and i'd go out of my way to psychologically destroy somebody just because i felt like it
18:18 <Ampera> boobs
18:30 <Nothing\> but i figure there's enough pain in the world, why add to it
18:35 <Ampera> you couldn't psychologically destroy me if you tried
18:49 <Ampera> I'm already fucked, you can't fuck me worse
18:55 <Nothing\> Ampera, you'd be surprised. But I'm not even going to try.
18:59 <Nothing\> even if you insisted
19:21 <Nothing\> i dunno though, it's like there are two parts of me
19:25 <Nothing\> one filled with hatred
19:30 <Nothing\> and one that only wants to be accepted
19:38 <Nothing\> and make others happy
19:40 <Ampera> There are two parts of me
19:42 <Ampera> one filled with hatred
19:44 <Nothing\> and contribute to the world
19:45 <Ampera> and the other filled with hatred
19:55 <Ampera> The world can get fucked
20:01 <Ampera> not only can it, it will, and it has
20:03 <Ampera> it is fucked
20:05 <Ampera> it's the ultimate fucker
20:05 <Nothing\> Ampera, serious suggestion here
20:10 <Nothing\> have you considered a punching bag?
20:17 <Ampera> why do you think I have you
20:26 <Ampera> hahahaha
20:26 <Nothing\> haha
20:34 <Nothing\> you know what i mean you silly billy
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20:51 <Ampera> It's very rare for me to physically aggress
21:09 <Nothing\> but no, before i tore my rotator cuff, I was gonna get a punching bag so i had something to beat the shit out of that I could actually just go nuts with
21:39 <Nothing\> Ampera, not me, but i tend to just throw stuff around, break things, used to punch holes in walls or just hit brick walls repeatedly as hard as i could
21:49 <Ampera> I have never broken something in anger
21:52 <Ampera> that wasn't already broken
21:54 <Nothing\> it's amazing i never broke anything, but my knuckles are just scars on top of scars on top of scars
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22:09 <Nothing\> i stuck a 4in knife in my leg once
22:16 <Nothing\> though that wasn't out of anger, but frustration
22:41 <Nothing\> i think that was actuallythe moment when i realized what the real implications of suicide would be
22:55 <K> youd be dead
22:56 <Nothing\> and it made me think very differently about it and self harm in general
23:06 <Nothing\> k: but i'd still suffer beforehand
23:12 <K> that too.
23:15 <Ampera> Suicide is the greatest cheat of them all
23:19 <Nothing\> k: plus there's no guarantee the afterlife would be any better than this one
23:24 <Nothing\> or if there even is an afterlife
23:27 <Ampera> It is the ultimate and irrefutable solution to life and existence
23:36 <Ampera> There is no easier or better option
23:38 <Nothing\> so it's just as much of a craps shoot that i could end up in a worse situation than i'm already in
23:48 <Ampera> it is so perfect, it is disgusting
23:50 <Ampera> it's abhorrent
24:10 <Ampera> it's the complete inverse of all hard reality
24:12 <Nothing\> lol wtf
24:28 <Nothing\> this random topics site is saying you should use these random topics to start conversations with strangers and make new friends
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24:45 <Ampera> I always walk up to people and say they have nice tits.
24:52 <Ampera> Doesn't really work out that well
24:57 <Ampera> maybe it'd help if I didn't always do it to men
25:02 <Nothing\> cuz i'd totally be friends with somebody who talks to me about typewriter milk, red cross murders, military snakes, and drugstore pork
25:09 <Nothing\> these are the things normal people talk about
25:36 <Ampera> Do you know what the fastest way to start a conversation and make friends is?
25:46 <Nothing\> find common ground?
25:47 <Ampera> "Hello, do you have five minutes to talk about our lord and savior, Jesus Christ?"
25:53 <Ampera> Works every time
25:53 <Nothing\> dude
25:58 <Nothing\> i wouldn't even do that to somebody
26:00 <K> noone asks me that :/
26:09 <Ampera> at least it does when I get decked across the table and continue the conversation inside my coma
26:13 <Nothing\> i mean i don't believe in christ, but I wouldn't even preach the lord to somebody
26:27 <K> they almost avert the gaze and get out of the way
26:34 <Nothing\> to me, religion is a deeply private and subjective matter that i don't like to talk about most of the time
26:44 <Ampera> religion is gay
26:47 <Nothing\> at least i don't like to talk about my own beliefs in any detail aside from what i've said
26:50 <Ampera> fuck it
26:52 <K> big gay?
26:54 <Nothing\> Ampera, organized religion is absolutely
26:56 <Ampera> big fat dick gay
27:04 <Ampera> like the kinda gay where you actually die from sucking cock too hard
27:22 <Nothing\> right, well
27:30 <Nothing\> i think i'm gonna go listen to mysterious stranger
27:46 <Nothing\> i'm almost back to feeling 100% better
27:47 <Ampera> restaurant down the street makes delicious naan
27:56 <Ampera> their curry's excellent too
27:58 <Nothing\> Ampera, oh man i'd love me some naan
28:01 <Nothing\> and curry
28:07 <Ampera> I'll buy you some
28:09 <Nothing\> actually i've been craving a good biryani for years
28:10 <Ampera> I'll even eat it for you too
28:13 <Nothing\> one with cashews
28:15 <Nothing\> and raisins
28:26 <rust_collector> chocolate
28:39 <Ampera> I'm gonna be making mutton (lamb) biryani at some point soon
28:45 <Nothing\> nice
28:55 <Nothing\> you know, i've never had proper lamb/goat meat
29:01 <Ampera> lamb is delicious
29:08 <Ampera> I have only had goat in curry, which doesn't really count
29:09 <Nothing\> i've eaten the testicles, and a stew made of the head of a goat
29:16 <Nothing\> but not any actual cuts of meat
29:17 <Ampera> but I have a full rack of goat ribs in my freezer, begging to be smoked one day
29:27 <Nothing\> and btw, goat testicles are actually pretty good
29:42 <Nothing\> my persian room mate at the time made some as a curry and shared with me
29:59 <Nothing\> just slice em into bite sized pieces and cook em up
30:09 <Nothing\> they're just like dumplings with a bit of a fleshy taste
30:37 <Nothing\> i wouldn't mind trying prarie oysters some time, either
30:46 <Nothing\> but something tells me i couldn't eat a whole one in one sitting
30:59 <Nothing\> i get the sense one of those things is like the size of a human kidney
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35:38 <watcher> is there a emulator for microcontrollers where you can check the minimum cpu speed for your code. so that you now witch speed you need and not overrate your soc?
37:43 <Ampera> why not just test your code on a mcu and adjust the clock up/down
38:02 <Ampera> that being said, unless you're going nuts, it's never a bad idea to overspec an MCU
38:25 <Ampera> you can always underclock a chip into power limits
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41:52 <Nothing\> hola
42:03 <Nothing\> now let's see if i can get a 4017 working
42:06 <Ampera> fuck you
42:09 <Ampera> and your shitty as shoes
42:11 <Ampera> *ass
42:15 <Ampera> <3
42:20 <Nothing\> fuck your own shitty ass-shoes
42:29 <Ampera> I'm not wearing any
42:36 <Ampera> dickhead
42:43 <Nothing\> bellend
42:48 <Ampera> fuckface
42:54 <Nothing\> sod
42:56 <Ampera> git
43:02 <Nothing\> bollocks?
43:04 <Nothing\> lol
43:09 <Ampera> faguette
43:17 <Nothing\> poofter
43:25 <Nothing\> or is it poofta?
43:33 <Nothing\> i could never tell with their accents
43:50 <Ampera> minge
43:55 <rust_collector> stop being racist, Nothing\
43:55 <Nothing\> gary
44:04 <Ampera> yeah, racism is awful
44:06 <Nothing\> rust_collector, silence, moon cricket
44:10 <Ampera> the only problem slavery ever had was racism
44:22 <Nothing\> btw, moon cricket is the best racial slur or slur of any sort EVER
44:35 <Ampera> I've never heard it
44:41 <Nothing\> it's a southern thing, i think
44:44 <Nothing\> for black people
44:52 <Nothing\> i guess cuz they sing like crickets at night?
45:07 <rust_collector> do they?
45:09 <Ampera> I'm not southern, and I actually don't mind black people
45:11 <Ampera> funnily enough
45:21 <Nothing\> ah damn i should done some meter and scope probing on this 4017 before i dismantled it
45:31 <Nothing\> try to figure out why the clock input has such low impedance
45:33 <Ampera> I know it's a Canadian pastime to hate anyone not white and christian, but here in the US we do things differently
45:34 <Ampera> sometimes
45:35 <Nothing\> i think i fried something
45:45 <Ampera> I an hunger.
46:16 <Nothing\> when i connected the reset pin directly to VCC with no resistor, even though the datasheet and the example circuit diagram therein made no mention of requiring a current limiting resistor on the reset pin
46:35 <Nothing\> frankly i don't see why a reset pin would be anything but high impedance
46:59 <Nothing\> except maybe in weird cases like the 555
47:04 <Kuschelpony> thatscorrect
47:23 <Nothing\> i still can't figure out how to "turn off" a 555 in mid-operation while the rest of the circuit continues to function
47:44 <Nothing\> i figured putting a switch on the reset pin would allow me to turn it "off" by holding reset low
47:48 <Nothing\> (active low input)
48:00 <Nothing\> but for some reason it just wasn't having it
48:34 <Nothing\> i'm trying to look up other 4017 blinker divide by 10 counter circuits but not having a lot of luck
48:46 <Nothing\> google images is a crap repository of electronics diagrams
49:09 <Kuschelpony> perhaps we can help if you tell about what you want to do and how<you tried
49:26 <Nothing\> one of you smarty pants guys who's good with databases should make something like google images, but for circuit diagrams which are actually tested and known to work properly
49:40 <Nothing\> not just these things hacked together by newbs who think they're experts cuz they know how a 555 works
50:16 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, i just wanna make a classic 4017 divide by 10 counter with the clock signal coming from a 7/555
50:28 <Kuschelpony> ah fully understood
50:52 <Nothing\> but for some reason when i connect the 555's output to the clock, via a dupont connector and no resistors, the voltage on the output drops to almost nothing
50:53 <Kuschelpony> and well, im sorry to say, but i tread any schematics that ranks populr as suspicious
51:25 <Nothing\> i have an LED on the 555's output just to indicate each clock cycle because it's only < 10hz but the LED stops working if the clock's connected too
51:35 <Ampera> Nothing\, are you still allergic to music?
51:37 <Nothing\> i don't recall having to do anything special in that regard
51:37 <Kuschelpony> there is a feedback loop, where the schematics that do not work or have major issues, are reposted on forums asking for help, and that boosts to make them visible more
51:43 <Nothing\> Ampera, unfortunately so :(
51:47 <Ampera> that's a shame
51:55 <Ampera> was about to give you an earworm before I remembered
52:08 <Kuschelpony> i think your project should be very easy to debug
52:19 <Kuschelpony> fist question: did you add 100nF capacitors at the supply rail
52:27 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, aha that makes sense. Do you happen to know of a convenient repository of circuit diagrams for newbs to intermediates?
52:59 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, the bypass cap? come to think of it, no. But I've had the circuits work before without one
53:10 <Nothing\> usually it's not an issue unless i have 2 separate oscillators on the same board
53:14 <Kuschelpony> oof, sorry, im on a level where i just see a schematic in my imagination, because my brain just connects the blocks and functions together when i think what a circuit should do
53:32 <Nothing\> then the parasitic elements can muck up their frequency unless i put in bypass caps
53:57 <Nothing\> one oscillator picks up noise from the other and vice versa
54:05 <Kuschelpony> i always sprinkle bypass capacitors around instead of wasting weeks trying to debug strange effects
54:07 <Nothing\> what i really need is a good copper backplane for my breadboards
54:19 <Kuschelpony> that also
54:21 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, yeah i keep forgetting about that
55:04 <Kuschelpony> 20 years ago when i still did brwadboarding, i put them on unectched copperclad boards, that at the sanme time were soldered to a front piece holding stuff like switches, potentiometers, sockets
55:22 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, i dunno i'm really out of practice, too. I haven't really done much in the way of EE in the last few months.
55:27 <Kuschelpony> think like a half-case
56:11 <Nothing\> and not even being able to make a working divide by 10 counter based on a 4017 and 555, like one of the simplest IC based circuits you can make (besides the hideous pinout of the 4017) just made me feel even more inadequate
56:38 <Nothing\> i think i'm gonna rebuild the 4017 portion with a different chip and see if i get better results
56:59 <Nothing\> then if it works, try the old chip and see if i did bugger it, or if it works fine.
57:16 <Kuschelpony> that should be pretty< simpe
57:20 <Nothing\> My cats have a really had habit of rubbing up against me while i'm working on this stuff, so I'm just waiting for an ESD to fry something lol
57:24 <Kuschelpony> first make an stable 555 oscilator
57:29 <Kuschelpony> second attach the 4017
57:38 <Kuschelpony> oops yes
58:09 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, yup, i could even use a buffered uhh, i'm not sure what tehy're called I guess just astable multivibrators. You know, the one's with the cross coupled BJTs
58:25 <Nothing\> or an inverter
58:29 <Nothing\> or inverter schmitt trigger
58:33 <Nothing\> so many options for clocks
58:35 <Kuschelpony> you could, but before we go to debug THAT i prefer a 555 any time
58:41 <Nothing\> yeah heh
58:45 <Kuschelpony> yes or inverting schmittreigger
59:11 <Kuschelpony> while the cross coupled multivibrator is usually doing well, its not very stable and can lead to very strange effects
59:22 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, that's why i buffer the outputs
59:31 <Nothing\> i noticed that as soon as i built my first one
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59:37 <Kuschelpony> espically as it produces no rectangle but soft slow rising edges
59:45 <Kuschelpony> yes
59:55 <Nothing\> when i'd just put an LED directly on the output, it'd drop the output voltage to whatever the LED's forward voltage is
00:17 <Nothing\> which dropped the voltage on that end of the circuit, too. Which messed with the frequency on that side.
00:27 <Nothing\> and inevitably the same happened to the other side
00:42 <Kuschelpony> yep
00:48 <Nothing\> So I quickly learned to buffer the outputs with a simple MOSFET with a pull resistor
01:04 <Nothing\> it's a bit more complicated, but at least it's more versatile
01:17 <Nothing\> at least, complicated for a newb
02:29 <Nothing\> I still need to figure out how to program my 62C816 SBC
03:02 <Nothing\> i got the sample program to work, but it won't even run a simple program to just shuffle some literals around the registers and memory
03:25 <Nothing\> and the datasheet really wasn't helpful
03:46 <Nothing\> all of 10 pages for the computer, and 55 for the CPU
04:00 <Kuschelpony> ooof thats really not my world
04:10 <Nothing\> the CPU one doesn't even have a list of the instruction set. I mean come on, that's like the most important thing next to addressing modes
04:16 <Kuschelpony> im just the analog guy, including RF and tubes
04:34 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, tbh it's not really mine either. But one day I aspire to write my own software for the NES
04:46 <Kuschelpony> oh nice
05:02 <Nothing\> or with a 65c816 i guess i could write software for the SNES
05:18 <Nothing\> since it's the CPU they used in the SNES, but it can also emulate the 6502
06:29 <Nothing\> which means they coulda just thrown a few extra support chips in the SNES and made it backwards compatible. Maybe make such a version a few years after the original release to fill the void until the N64 and take advantage of cheaper prices of electronics than in 1984/85
06:36 <Kuschelpony> and i focus to get progress in an project involving some kilos of iron sheets
06:51 <Nothing\> do what now?
07:05 <Nothing\> ah okay i misread that
07:18 <Nothing\> i thought you were trying to get some iron sheets for some reason lol
07:50 <Kuschelpony> hmm? :)
08:18 <Kuschelpony> developing the shape and get them formed and welded by an artist
09:25 <rust_collector> yummy. is alunumium an option?
09:38 <Kuschelpony> no, needs to be heavy
09:49 <Kuschelpony> full armor
10:08 <rust_collector> hardox 400 should do.....
10:26 <Kuschelpony> ?
10:52 <rust_collector> a kind of steel. it is what you would use in the body of a dump truck
11:01 <Kuschelpony> aha
11:07 <rust_collector> you also have 600, and lots of other stuff
11:16 <rust_collector> but 400 would be plenty, I think
27:37 <Nothing\> man, that's sad
27:51 <Kuschelpony> hmm?
28:25 <Nothing\> this 120VAC fan i found is a better inductor than any of the inductors i bought for the specific purpose of using as an inductor, rather than just as a motor
28:38 <Nothing\> 871mH with ~270 ohms
29:00 <Nothing\> where my next best inductor is ~100mH with ~450ohms
29:13 <Nothing\> and good luck getting an RLC to ring with that kind of Q factor
29:28 <Kuschelpony> hihi
29:32 <Nothing\> which is one experiment i've STILL yet to do because of all the nuances to it nobody mentions
30:01 <Nothing\> and by nobody, i mean the example circuit on circuitmod
30:17 <Nothing\> projects.com/circuitjs/circuitjs.html
30:20 <Kuschelpony> my most extreme LC circuit was connecting an microwave oven transformer secondary (the primary of course not connected to mains) with 2*10 000 µF back to back (bipolar elco)
30:34 <Nothing\> nice
30:37 <Nothing\> maybe i should try that
30:39 <Kuschelpony> had a resonance frequency around 0,1Hz
30:46 <Nothing\> actually, i have a microwave transformer
30:51 <Nothing\> i should check the inductance
31:13 <Kuschelpony> you could relaxed watch the meter needles swinging back and forth
31:45 <Nothing\> actually i even had a common mode toroidal choke that i just tied the two sides in series and it still wasn't good enough to ring
31:58 <Nothing\> it's because all of the caps i have that aren't polarized are such low values
32:11 <Nothing\> though i think i have some ceramic 10ufs somewhere
32:22 <Nothing\> i think they're ceramic anyway, lemme find a picture
32:33 <Kuschelpony> also these chockes saturate at max some dozen mA so they are completely unusable as inductor
33:34 <Nothing\> oh yeah, look at this "varactor" i came across
33:36 <Nothing\> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32904746572.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dHhedS0
33:38 <EEVBot> [Title] - 20pcs BB910 910 TO 92 910 TO92S varactor diode new original|Integrated Circuits| - AliExpress
33:51 <Nothing\> they just presumably crammed it in a to-92 package and cut off one lead
34:09 <Nothing\> if you look up the datasheet for that part, there's nothing about to-92 packages in it. So they're obvious knock-offs
34:42 <Nothing\> now then, where were those caps
34:55 <Nothing\> ADD's getting me sidetracked here
35:44 <Nothing\> ah yeah, it says they're ceramic
35:46 <Nothing\> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32848919879.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dpczIyN
35:47 <Kuschelpony> hmm perhaps even an transistor with large enough junction sold as varicap?
35:48 <EEVBot> [Title] - 100Pcs 50V monolithic ceramic capacitor 10PF ~ 10UF 22PF 47NF 220NF 1NF 4.7UF 1UF 100NF 330NF 0.1UF 102 104 105 106 103 473 334|capacitor 10pf|ceramic capacitormonolithic ceramic capacitors - AliExpress
36:01 <Nothing\> they just seem awfullf small for 10uf ceramics, but i have no clue what the voltage rating is
36:25 <Nothing\> i just use em cuz 10uf is a convenient capacitance for 555s
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16:55 <Nothing\> ugh
17:05 <watcher> ugh
17:11 <Nothing\> i've been watching every episode of the simpsons, and i'm up to the "zombie simpsons" era
17:22 <Nothing\> you know, where it was them, but they didn't act like them at all
17:31 <Nothing\> like flanders would get pissed off at homer and yell at him for stuff
18:01 <Nothing\> or lisa, being a buddhist who doesn't care for material things is taken in by both an apple store parody and the real Lady Gaga
18:45 <Nothing\> i could see maybe if the narrative was that she was too young to follow buddhism closely, so she inevitably strays from time to time, but eventually learns and grows as a person
21:00 <Nothing\> not to mention the more serious nature of the older episodes
21:15 <Nothing\> like when homer tried to kill himself because he felt like a failure to his family
22:47 <Nothing\> or when bart full on sob-cries when he fails the 4th grade. That was probably one of the emotionally heaviest moments in the Simpsons I think. Just the way the scene was done and the obvious effort and emotional intensity that was put into it. It's something you would NEVER see in zombie simpsons
23:11 <Nothing\> the episodes used to be satire and parodies of pop-culture. Now it IS pop culture.
25:23 <Nothing\> and then there was silence
28:16 <watcher> i am here to talk
28:43 <Kuschelpony> how can i help?
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37:59 <Nothing\> hey ho
38:07 <Nothing\> sorry for the late reply, had to poop AGAIN
38:21 <Nothing\> you know i've lost 7lbs since yesterday just from pooping
38:31 <Nothing\> i think it's safe to say i've done a thorough clean out
38:33 <Nothing\> finally
38:42 <Nothing\> but man do those cramps suck
39:14 <Nothing\> seriously among the most painful things i've experienced
39:17 <Nothing\> top 3
39:46 <Nothing\> up there with dental abscesses and having a catheter yanked out of me by a calloused nurse
40:33 <Nothing\> that was the only time i've ever been in so much pain it literally disabled my brain and body. I just dropped to the floor and all I could do was lie there and let my brain process the abuse my junk just took.
40:54 <Kuschelpony> ouch
41:11 <Nothing\> yeah but thankfully it was short lived, so i don't consider it THAT bad of a pain
41:18 <Nothing\> only a few minutes, tops
42:08 <arch> hehe, i made a crude buzzer/boost converter, by closing a normally closed contact output with the armature winding
42:13 <arch> on a relay
43:26 <arch> duty cycle is very uneven, so it wont be very useful in general, but in a pinch, it will work
44:07 <arch> i need to make it permanent on a copperclad. i just did it quickly with jumper wires from my psu and a crappy old 1N5008 diode
44:24 <arch> sorry 1n5408 slow diode
46:39 <arch> the tricky part is, i want the relay to be powered from 5V, but the coil armature doesn't activate until 12V. so i might have to put another smaller relay to "bootstrap" the bigger one
47:08 <arch> i wonder...is it possible to make a closed-loop, regulated SMPS, using nothing but relays
47:19 <arch> and capacitors and diodes. but no transistors
47:37 <arch> passives are fine, excluding transistors i mean
47:54 <Kuschelpony> sure!
48:08 <Kuschelpony> every car generator did it before semiconductors came
48:33 <Kuschelpony> you dont even need somethign elase than a special relay and one or two resistors
48:55 <arch> how did it do the voltage regulation? how did it detect the voltage is above a certain point and then stop for a moment
49:27 <Kuschelpony> simply by comparing the magnetic pull of the coil with an spring
49:34 <arch> ahh
50:46 <arch> and what about the rectification to dc? afaik, alternators make AC no?
51:07 <arch> vacuum tubes?
51:20 <Kuschelpony> that was the era of generators with mechanical rectification, just the mirror of an dc motor
51:42 <Kuschelpony> ah commutator
52:05 <Kuschelpony> there was one relay regulating voltage, and it was a scienece to give that one even temperature compensation
52:14 <Kuschelpony> one relay limiting current
52:42 <Kuschelpony> and a thir to close the charging circuit when the generator delivered voltage, but cut off when current backflowed from the battery
52:47 <arch> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutator_(electric)
52:48 <EEVBot> [Title] - Commutator (electric) - Wikipedia
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12:47 <Nothing\> hey, does anyone know what the numbers for these peltier devices mean in terms of the ratings or properties of the modules
13:21 <Nothing\> they've got tec1-12706, 12705, 12710, 12703
13:33 <Nothing\> i feel like there's a pattern to this i'm not seeing
13:42 <Nothing\> maybe the last 2 numbers are some sort of voltage
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13:53 <Nothing\> maximum input or output voltage?
14:19 <Nothing\> btw i finally got my damned 4017 working
14:39 <Nothing\> it was something i was doing cuz once i got a working circuit with another chip i tried the original chip and it worked just fine, too
15:04 <Nothing\> despite last night when I connected the reset pin to VCC without a resistor and the wire got really warm for some reason
15:44 <Nothing\> lol my cat loves watching the blinkenlights on the 4017, though
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16:46 <Nothing\> i wanna make one 30 LEDs long, but I've gotta order some green LEDs first. I wouldn't feel safe using white LEDs on a cat toy they're gonna be looking at from inches away.
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12:21 <hsn> https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJwwAr5K/
16:02 * arch packs hsn into a barrel with bricks and drowns him in the ocean for putting a tiktok link
16:47 <hsn> Instagram not allowed, tktok jot allowed .. how do i share then
18:07 <arch> no facebook either
18:37 <hsn> https://tikcdn.net/file/1NzAwNDczMzEzMDQxODUzOTc3OF92MTAwNDRnNTAwMDBjNHFzdWNqYzc3dTVuMGVrOXZrZ19kb3VibGUtc2ltYmE%3D2.mp4
20:30 <arch> nice try, but that's from tiktok's cdn. you get put in gulag now
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42:30 <jaymax> Canuk content distribution network
42:32 <Ampera> penis
42:34 <Ampera> boobs
42:41 <jaymax> pubes
42:47 <Ampera> nice
42:57 <jaymax> 69
43:05 <Ampera> anal
43:16 <jaymax> Always a step ahead of me Ampera
43:34 <jaymax> Probably for the best TBH
43:58 <Ampera> yeah, rather me be horny and outrageous vocally than you i suppose
44:25 <jaymax> Yeah, the best - for me.
44:56 <jaymax> I'm too sleepy to be horny
45:12 * jaymax nuzzles
48:47 <electrohead> o.O
49:25 * electrohead films
50:14 <Ampera> I am dreadfully tired, but that just makes me want cock more
50:37 * jaymax tosses a crate of VHS into the post for electrohead
52:42 <jaymax> I *may* have the coof right now - luckily I'm fully jabbed so it's a persistent headache, body aches, brain fog, slight scratchy throat, and a rampant appetite for food & sleep.
53:23 <Ampera> what do I have that gives me a rampant appetite for cock
53:33 <Ampera> is that a side effect of covid?
54:11 <electrohead> jaymax: I put everything on a DVD as a data drive
54:16 <electrohead> thanks though, lol
54:18 <jaymax> Probably a side effect of syphillis there Ampera
54:28 <Ampera> hot
56:09 <jaymax> Ampera, did you happen to end up in my Russian bride SPAM before?
56:26 <Ampera> no, sadly I'm not russian
56:30 <Ampera> or a woman
56:40 <Ampera> otherwise I'd be right up in there
56:52 <jaymax> I don't imagine many of those senders are.
57:02 <jaymax> ...either.
59:15 <jaymax> Like the monkey said when he backed into the lawnmower, "it won't be long now". And it won't be long before I strecth my dough, make/eat supper, and go for another early sleep.
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17:08 * electrohead offers sushi
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38:49 * electrohead films
39:22 * jaymax squeegies the film off electrohead
43:55 <electrohead> \o/
43:55 <electrohead> how goes it?
43:55 <jaymax> Feeling unproductive.
43:55 <electrohead> that's two of us, heh
43:55 <jaymax> Best I did today was make falaffels from scratch.
43:55 <jaymax> At some point I do need to clean up the kitchen.
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44:32 <electrohead> I'll gladly take your left overs, thanks :p
44:54 <steve30> I think I'll go out on the bike tonight
45:01 * jaymax tosses some lentil couscous at electrohead
45:17 <jaymax> That's all that's left :shrug:
45:46 <jaymax> Well, aside from some roasted eggplant dip.
46:41 <electrohead> lol
48:52 <jaymax> I have a tendency to make baba ghanoush the same way you make spinach dip - just swap out the water chestnuts and steamed spinach for garlic and roasted eggplant.
49:34 <electrohead> that sounds tasty
49:34 <jaymax> I've also gone mad with roasting eggplant this summer.
51:25 * T3sl4 smothers jaymax in roasted garlic
52:11 <jaymax> Now that I have two chest freezers, I'm determined to not sacrifice flavour while also not being inconvenienced by some dumb grocery trip.
52:29 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/pj1gsk/mentos_ad_15_years_ago/
52:34 <EEVBot> [Title] - Mentos ad 15 years ago : Unexpected
52:35 <electrohead> o.O
52:44 <jaymax> You know that's not far from my mind T3sl4
53:07 <jaymax> Roasted garlic soup is amazeballs
55:58 <jaymax> https://archive.org/details/Kb2-TheKitchenBitch2ndEdition/page/n27/mode/1up
56:00 <EEVBot> [Title] - KB2 - The Kitchen Bitch, 2nd Edition : Joel Maxuel : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
59:13 <DHess_US> electrohead, that wasn't the one I was expecting.
00:06 <DHess_US> search for "poontos"
02:36 <electrohead> DHess_US: is there a video I should be looking for?
07:34 <electrohead> DHess_US: welp, I found a video on vimeo, that deals with mentos
07:37 <electrohead> cheers.
08:29 <DHess_US> electrohead, nsfw, https://www.fugly.com/videos/738/poontos.html
08:30 <EEVBot> [Title] - Poontos :: Funny Videodir - Fugly
08:44 <DHess_US> practically pre-internet
08:55 <electrohead> yeah, that's the same video
08:58 <electrohead> lol
09:31 <electrohead> let's try not to post videos of 'that nature', though
10:35 <DHess_US> That is why I initially said to search for it.
10:41 <DHess_US> But then you had to ask.
10:57 <electrohead> Well you could have summed it up, in a PG related way :p
11:11 <electrohead> Or, PG-13, maybe
13:56 <jaymax> I was going to make a joke about the title, but then I watched it, and it was the video that took it one step further.
17:19 <electrohead> Lol
17:21 <jaymax> PG-13 summary ... in much the same way sanitary napkin has multiple meanings, it was a Mentos parody that expoited the multiple meaning of "lozenge" (without saying lozenge).
18:06 <jaymax> NSFW content ... rated X
24:28 <electrohead> hahahaha
34:21 <Halcyon> Where to Steve?
35:41 <steve30> i'll figure that out when i get there :)
35:50 <Halcyon> Hahahah one of those
36:00 * T3sl4 noogies Halcyon
36:05 <Halcyon> I sometimes go on pointless drives. Go down streets I've never been down before.
36:08 <Halcyon> Heya T3sl4
36:47 <T3sl4> i tend not to, just because i've been most everywhere already so kinda whats the point
37:53 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20oqyMVbss0
37:54 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Ive Been Everywhere Lyrics The Beggars Australian version
39:59 <T3sl4> :)
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53:15 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdL71ZAJJ4
53:16 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Potato Chips Sausage
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54:39 * electrohead pokes the Halcyon
57:14 <MrMobodies> Hello
57:27 <MrMobodies> You know when there are protests
57:38 <MrMobodies> and some that turn violent
57:45 <MrMobodies> they get out the water cannons
58:06 <MrMobodies> What if they released laughing gas instead would that make them cooperate a bit better?
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58:34 <MrMobodies> they could go home laughing and all happy
58:41 <MrMobodies> with no resistance
58:43 <Halcyon> Herro
58:50 <arch> wazaa
59:54 <MrMobodies> do you think that might work?
01:09 <T3sl4> N2O isn't heavy enough to use as an effective chemical weapon, besides all the other problems with those
01:49 <MrMobodies> what a shame
02:08 <MrMobodies> Joke: they could fight the police for a "laugh" and get one.
03:49 <arch> should i bother getting the ARRL ham radio training book, or just run through the exam question dumps a few dozen times, for practicing for the technician license exam?
04:48 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/pl0e72/my_fatherinlaw_insisted_i_publish_this_picture_of/
04:50 <EEVBot> [Title] - Reddit - Dive into anything
09:32 <arch> magnetrons man...it's gotta be magnetrons https://www.bbc.com/news/world-58396698
09:33 <EEVBot> [Title] - âHavana syndromeâ¯â and the mystery of the microwaves - BBC News
09:39 <DHess_US> T3sl4, it is in liquid form, of course everybody would freeze to death quickly.
10:10 <T3sl4> not to mention the fire risk, mmm
12:21 <MrMobodies> I forgot about that
12:30 <electrohead> Don't forget to light a match!
12:37 <MrMobodies> flammable logo on the bottles
13:04 <MrMobodies> joke: well I suppose if they wanted to burn them out.
13:22 <MrMobodies> and they'd have the last laugh.
13:28 <MrMobodies> whilst being burnt
14:41 <Halcyon> T3sl4, stupid lazy cat
16:08 <T3sl4> jealous?
16:15 <Halcyon> A bit
23:45 <steve30> I'm just watching music videos on youtube again
23:59 <steve30> I approve of the use of a Power Mac G4 as a prop in this one
24:00 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnopHCL1Jk8
24:09 <T3sl4> Marc Polymeropolous sounds like a sticky fellow
24:20 <DHess_US> Where can I get one of these? https://youtu.be/upTgM_S5rAQ?t=1120
24:21 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: HP 3458A - Why is this 31 year old Multimeter UNRIVALLED?
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28:08 <Halcyon> T3sl4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goNFSfyVuek
28:09 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Chickn
29:01 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bfKbly65JI
29:02 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Chic 'N' Stu
29:29 <Halcyon> Riiiiiight
29:56 * T3sl4 sticks angry peppers in Halcyon
30:10 <T3sl4> ("and green peppers" but it's a nice mishear)
34:09 <arch> lol this song...
34:20 <T3sl4> classic SOAD
34:32 <arch> no i was talking about the O-Zone - Dragostea Din Tei [Official Video]
34:52 * T3sl4 ozonates arch
36:08 <steve30> o/
36:11 <arch> boop boop, boo boo boop..ehh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drmmcmtTbM4
36:11 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Breaking Jeb // KSP animation // Remix // Parody
38:17 <electrohead> \o
40:15 <arch> wat dafuq, you can use hairclippers to clip leads
40:31 <arch> or is that guy using sheep shearer grade clippers
41:44 <T3sl4> you'd be surprised how tough toenails can be
04:59 <T3sl4> mmm, ice cream sammich
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08:56 * electrohead runs off with T3sl4's ice cream sandwich
09:09 * T3sl4 stabs electrohead
11:24 <electrohead> lol
11:26 <electrohead> hey man
11:37 <T3sl4> o/
17:48 <steve30> i think i'll try and sleep
29:33 * Ampera kisses Halcyon 
29:37 <Halcyon> YAY
29:39 <Halcyon> How are you?
29:42 * Ampera frags T3sl4 like the noob he is
29:49 <Ampera> unfortunately awake
29:54 <Halcyon> Aw
30:02 <rust_collector> arrrff. morning or other time to yous
30:07 <Ampera> otherwise I wouldn't have to talk to you pissing folks to pass the time
30:15 <T3sl4> wishful thinking, private
30:16 <Halcyon> I'll be back later, need to go for a drive, things to do
30:24 <Ampera> you mean people
30:47 <Ampera> I hope, because I hope you haven't taken up fucking inanimate objects
31:00 <rust_collector> oh, look at mr important... "I have things to do" lalalalalalalalala
31:13 <Ampera> yeah, we don't
31:19 <T3sl4> joke's on you, i got dry gangrene of the hand and now i'm having sex with it
31:24 <Ampera> we're just gonna live our boring lives in our boring ways
31:37 <rust_collector> yeah
31:49 <Ampera> and T3sl4's gonna fuck his rotting hand
32:11 <Ampera> I have the strong desire to set up a dedicated UT99 server
32:28 <rust_collector> wife brought a cat home today. I am not sure what we are supposed to do with it... I sort of want to keep it in a small box
32:35 <arch> T3sl4 fucks anything that walks, like eminem
33:04 <rust_collector> T3sl4 had sex with eminem?
33:06 <Ampera> rust_collector, you pet it, and tell it it's a cute slut and that you love it
33:12 <Ampera> no clue about the cat though
33:18 <rust_collector> right
33:36 <T3sl4> no, M&M, that green one is hot af
33:40 <arch> rust_collector, http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/008/190/ren08.jpg
33:48 <rust_collector> I do that, except the cote and love part
34:11 <Ampera> woah, you're half way there
34:25 <T3sl4> rust_collector, let me know if you need some radium for your box
34:34 <T3sl4> ...so i can stand well, well away from it
34:43 * Ampera gives T3sl4 a vial of sneezium
34:58 * T3sl4 evaporates copper chloride under Ampera's nostrils
35:33 <Ampera> I'm blue with envy
35:55 <T3sl4> neat thing about copper is you can be both green and blue, at the same time
36:04 <arch> T3sl4, https://pics.me.me/lord-forgive-me-31355179.png
36:25 <Ampera> this is why covid isn't such a bad thing
36:27 <Ampera> we needed a purge
36:32 <T3sl4> exactly
36:49 <T3sl4> i'm green da ba de da ba die
37:12 * Ampera strangles T3sl4 with the cables coming off the back of an SGI workstation
38:01 * T3sl4 diddles Ampera's DB13W3 coax ports
38:16 <Ampera> no, not my sync on green
38:46 * T3sl4 drains Ampera's sink
39:00 * Ampera curses T3sl4 with 3dfx Voodoo magic
39:14 <Ampera> Let's just see what happens if I delete this polygon....
39:21 * T3sl4 RAGEs Ampera
39:43 <Ampera> you got me on the ViRGE of murder, T3sl4
40:00 * Ampera points a fully charged 3D blaster at T3sl4 
40:20 <T3sl4> you won't Live! after i'm through with you
40:28 * Ampera mach executes T3sl4 
40:38 <DHess_US> <rust_collector> wife brought a cat home today. I am not sure what we are supposed to do with it... I sort of want to keep it in a small box
40:44 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mH9S0WLL7Q
40:45 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: House M.D. - Cat and a bag scene. Very funny.
40:46 <T3sl4> you CUDA tried harder than that
42:20 <rust_collector> hmm, that is an idea
43:32 <Ampera> seems a bit extreme to send your wife down the river in a bag
43:44 <Ampera> but for some reason that makes me horny
44:17 <rust_collector> it is ok, we don't have a river, but we are close to the sea. it should be able to deal with her
45:05 * Ampera starts settings things on fire for fun
45:22 <Ampera> hrm yes, fire with adjustable settings
45:26 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X9ktfzJOa4
45:27 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The Simpsons - Ralph's Leprechaun
45:27 <Ampera> like how many people to burn today
45:55 <Ampera> hahahaha
45:58 <Ampera> burning things funny
46:09 * T3sl4 gives Ampera a yeast infection
46:17 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sLpWVekMbs
46:18 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Homer Simpson - Clowns Are Funny
49:30 * arch puts some hotsauce in T3sl4's undies
50:41 <T3sl4> YOU PEOPLE HAVE HELD ME BACK LONG ENOUGH I'M GOING TO KARAOKE KOLLEDGE
50:52 <T3sl4> but, being that it's thursday evening, toodles o/
51:07 <Ampera> tiddies
53:40 <rust_collector> hmm, right, it is weekend now. party party
56:12 <arch> tgif!
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22:24 <electrohead> Just a heads up - Anyone with public facing SSH ports, keep an eye on your logs.
23:13 <arch> why, are you threatening to hax0rz people?
23:45 <electrohead> No you goof, I just got briefed on something, and without saying much, just watch your logs for anything out of the ordinary.
24:09 <Ampera> electrohead, what sort of threat would that be
24:19 <Ampera> is there a hole in openssh key auth?
24:40 <electrohead> Bad actors attempting to exploit shit, to sum it up.
24:57 <arch> when are they not?
24:59 <Ampera> ^
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25:54 <Ampera> the worst I usually get are an occasional port scanner testing for certain HTTP endpoints
28:09 <rust_collector> oh yes. mr_head from leetmachine has been looking... interesting
32:32 <electrohead> Hey rust_collector o/
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36:11 <Ampera> Every time I go back to look at postfix/dovecot docs I feel myself getting one step closer to actually figuring out how the fuck this shit works
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37:26 <Ampera> It would be a massive gamechanger for me if could start running my own mailbox and relay server
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42:05 <arch> too much work
42:31 <arch> use PGP encryption on any email service and you're good
52:25 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - The Police State is Here. https://t.co/qxohQ05HZB
53:59 <arch> ill see you weirdos later
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03:17 <steve30> i can't sleep
05:29 * T3sl4 gives steve30 a warm milk (flavored with a little\\\\lot of coffee)
06:03 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/ZjFN2IW.mp4
09:09 Join: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) to #EEVblog
10:39 <Nothing\> man, i just found out the campaign for this federal election we're having is only 36 days long
11:19 <Nothing\> i just don't see what they can do in 36 days. I mean there's only 1 debate in english for the whole thing.
14:11 <Nothing\> oh great, a simpsons episode about E3
14:20 <Nothing\> cuz that's something i want to exist in their universe
14:34 <Nothing\> i don't even know if i can stomach these zombie simpsons era episodes
15:13 <Nothing\> somewhere around season 18 or 20 up to season 28 or so when it starts to become bearable, and dare i say even enjoyable at times.
15:31 <Nothing\> it's even gotten a chuckle out of me, which isn't an easy thing for a show or movie to do for me.
15:56 <Nothing\> and yes i know i'm talking to an (apparently) empty room with lots of eyes on the wall
16:09 <Nothing\> oh snap i suddenly have a craving to play shadowgate on the NES now
16:26 <Nothing\> i don't care for point and click games, but this is one point and click i'm happy to play
16:35 <Nothing\> wonder if they ever released it on other platforms like DOS
16:45 <Nothing\> oh fuck i should get lemmings too
17:17 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
17:19 <Nothing\> i remember back in the day i had this shareware version of Lemmings called XMas lemmings. Which was like an expansion pack with christmas based levels.
17:23 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
17:26 <Nothing\> how ya doing buddy?
17:29 <Ampera> penis
17:37 <Nothing\> hope you're feeling better, you seemed really down earlier
17:41 <Nothing\> i mean more so than usual
17:44 <Ampera> I did?
17:47 <Nothing\> yeah
17:48 <Ampera> nah I was just tired
17:53 <Ampera> I get philosophical when I'm tired
18:10 <Nothing\> you don't usually express your hurt and frustration with the world as much as you did
18:20 <Nothing\> which is fine, like i say there's more room out than in
18:28 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:32 <Ampera> I'm just a walking shitpost
18:39 <Nothing\> i always worry about pestering people with my problems though, so i usually keep such things to myself
18:59 <Nothing\> unless it's particularly overwhelming
19:04 <Nothing\> which a lot's been lately
19:06 <Ampera> bring my server down for updates, will be back in 5-10 minutes
19:20 Quit: Ampera ([email protected]) Quit: Like a fart in an elevator, my transgressions are soon forgotten
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19:40 <Nothing\> huh
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29:04 <Ampera> I have returned from the dead.
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33:36 <steve30> wb
34:30 * Ampera offers steve30 some naan
39:06 <arch> has anyone made an in-line boost USB cable thingy? my raspberry pis keep flashing undervoltage warnings. it's the cables, they drop too much voltage
39:18 <arch> im tempted to make an in-line boost module for the USB cable
39:27 <arch> and place the boost conv smack at the end of the cable
39:44 <Halcyon> I have a 5v to 6v USB booster we used to use for extracting data of certain mobile phones
40:09 <steve30> Could be an interesting project, but wouldn't it be better just to use a thicker cable/better PSU?
40:18 <arch> it outputs 6V? wtf. that's cutting it really close to many logic ICs, which have absolute voltage ratings of 5.5V or 6V
40:19 <Halcyon> I'm happy to post one to you arch and you can see if it works?
40:23 <Nothing\> i was just thinking, we should start a robotics group
40:27 <arch> sure Halcyon, give me the link
40:33 <Halcyon> Yeh I have no idea, it was for some wacky phones
40:40 <Nothing\> we could call it the North American Man Bot Love Association
40:50 <Halcyon> I don't have a link, I physically have some. They came part of the Cellebrite phone extraction kits
41:05 <Ampera> or I could put a cast iron kettle on my head and run head first into an orphanage
41:16 * Nothing\ noms naan before steve30 
41:20 <Nothing\> YOINK!
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41:23 <arch> probably nokias. i remember those used to come with 4.8V iron-core transformer blocks, which actually output more like radical(2)*4.8V, or 6.8V
41:35 <Nothing\> i think yoink should be put in the dictionary
41:45 <Nothing\> yoink, cromulent and embiggen
41:47 * Ampera places the kettle on Nothing\'s head, and proceeds to do an epic drum solo with the help of two lead pipes
41:56 <Nothing\> haha hexchat actually didn't highlight cromulent as being mistyped
42:04 <Nothing\> so it recognizes cromulent as a real word roflmao
42:06 <arch> after i get done with this off line flyback build, i'll work on the in-line boost conv thingabob
42:07 <Halcyon> Possibly, I'll see if I can dig them out. I'm pretty sure it was just USB type A on both ends
42:12 <Nothing\> and embiggen
42:34 <Nothing\> yoink is still highlighted though... for now
42:42 * steve30 curls up next to Halcyon 
42:58 <arch> the new raspberry pi versions should include an onboard boost module for people with standard USB cables
43:07 <arch> sure the current draw will be slightly higher, but whatever
43:26 <arch> i dont wanna spend $20 to get a high current, extra T H I C C usb cable
43:26 <Nothing\> but i figure, if they can add d'oh to the dictionary, they should add other things from the simpsons that are actually words
43:40 <Nothing\> and not just an annoyed grunt, as homer's d'oh used to be called by the writing staff
44:00 <Nothing\> they'd have stupid episode titles like "e-i-e-i annoyed grunt"
44:19 <Nothing\> i didn't even realized annoyed grunt was synonymous with d'oh until less than a year ago
44:30 <Nothing\> it's not even a grunt
48:03 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/F7rlR2v.jpg
48:50 <arch> stop putting tentacle pics
49:15 <arch> i am setting up MotionEye on some raspberry pis
49:22 <arch> it's a neat surveillance software
49:25 <arch> open source too
51:32 <arch> im gonna put one camera at my plants so i can see them grow
51:39 <arch> well, at least for the next month. it's almost fall
51:54 <Nothing\> oooh i just realized i get paid in a few hours
52:02 <Nothing\> which means i can buy some peltier modules finally
52:13 <Nothing\> i only have to wait until november for them to ship, apparently :/
52:23 <Nothing\> or arrive, not ship
52:42 <Nothing\> or pay 6x as much as the actual module costs and get it in a month
54:22 <Nothing\> but i think i may buy several modules, maybe 4 or 6 or 9, maybe sandwich them between 2 copper sheets with thermal paste as the condiments
55:24 <T3sl4> you don't like tank hill?
58:50 * electrohead bops in
58:58 <arch> i dont watch american cartoons, cept family guy and american dad. simpsons got wack
59:32 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - "Why I HATE Vaccine Passports" by @Thebuttsmarn https://t.co/xNxJ6qZu0q
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01:59 <Nothing\> still not sure which of these peltiaer devices to get
02:32 <Nothing\> i dunno any of these parameters in the datasheet, like Qmax, or hot side temperature
03:09 <Nothing\> but shouldn't the hot side temperature depend on the voltage potential between the hot and cold side
03:42 <Nothing\> i guess i'll just get the most expensive one
04:44 <Nothing\> but considering it says Imax is 5.3 amps at ~15 volts, and the wires going to the module look no more than 2.5mm wide, I dunno how those dinky things wouldn't melt
04:46 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Who DIDN'T think this was going to happen? https://t.co/TmQk8vlnrT
04:59 <Nothing\> the wires it shows look like dupont connectors
05:39 <Nothing\> i guess i should get the module with the biggest delta T
05:50 <Nothing\> er Tmax
08:36 <Nothing\> is there any real difference between a peltier generator and a peltier cooler?
09:12 <Nothing\> i mean, it seems like one could be used as the other just by sourcing voltage instead of sinking it
09:16 <Nothing\> if that's the right term
09:38 <Nothing\> WTF
09:47 <Nothing\> these modules are like $60 a piece of mouser
09:53 <Nothing\> as opposed to $3 on aliexpress
10:23 <steve30> australia is screwed
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12:53 <Nothing\> screwt, i can't afford to pay $2000 to make a dinky little 100 watt electrical cooling pad
13:31 <Nothing\> oh aren't you guys a barrel of laughs tonight =D
14:05 <Erhard> Utterly predicatble. As I said BEFORE Snowden, if it's technically possible it will be done, privacy be damned.
14:08 <Nothing\> you guys get any more rowdy and you're gonna take the whole server down just by using all of its memory for the buffer coming in
14:33 <Erhard> Nobody believed me when I said everything was monitored online. It's too simple, I said.
14:44 <Erhard> Now we know, but most drones don't care.
14:46 * steve30 isn't feeling too good
14:54 <steve30> i'm just defrosting curry
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25:48 <Halcyon> steve30, in what way?
26:12 <Nothing\> lucky
26:29 <Nothing\> i'm just trying to make up my razoodock which of these peltier modules to buy
26:40 <Nothing\> i don't thin ki need one with a delta T of like 70c
26:52 <Halcyon> I actually agree with a proper vaccination certification system. It will weed out the liars and the cheats while those who are honest are able to obtain the services they want.
27:15 <Halcyon> We've already had one for a long time through our Medicare system, it's just it's never been in an "app" format before.
27:38 <Nothing\> especially if the maximum operating temp's only 90c. That means even at STP the module would overheat just through its normal operation
27:43 <Nothing\> presumably
28:55 <Nothing\> i'm thinking a 1205 or 1206, they've got no listed maximum operating temp in the datasheet for some reason but i'd imagine they're probably all similar from this series
29:51 <Nothing\> i think the 1205
32:12 <T3sl4> it's too bad that people have to be reminded, viscerally, on a day to day basis, why we need things like vaccines, and the verification of them
32:49 <T3sl4> it's no accident that authoritarians take over with only slightly less bloodspilling
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46:14 <Halcyon> I wonder if this would be cold to type on
46:51 <steve30> probably
46:56 <steve30> unless you keep it in a warm place
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47:48 <steve30> mmm, keycap massage :)
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56:06 <Halcyon> I wish my Ikea delivery would hurry up
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19:08 <Erhard> Halcyon: Did you read the last eevblog twitter link?
19:18 <Erhard> That was what I was referring to at least. I htink steve30 too
20:31 <Halcyon> Yep
20:37 <Halcyon> And that's wrong.
20:58 <Nothing\> how is it i shit no fewer than 5 times yesterday, losing a total of 6lbs and yet i'm still cramping and feel like i'm blocked up
21:11 <Halcyon> The check-in system was never to be used for any law enforcement purposes. In my state, that's in legislation (which is why there haven't been any breaches)
21:45 <Nothing\> i've never cleared myself out so thoroughly, yet i feel so backed up that it feels like it's pressing on my prostate or something. I dunno, something really feels wrong down there.
21:50 <Halcyon> Unfortunately it's up to each individual state to manage. I've said all along we need a national driving licencing system and organisation that manages all of this stuff, rather than leaving it up to the states.
21:52 <Nothing\> or maybe i'm getting a UTI i dunno
22:03 <Halcyon> Did you eat something your body hates?
22:09 <Nothing\> nope
22:32 <Nothing\> no it's like my urinary tract feels all... i can't even describe it
22:47 <Nothing\> like i'm about to jizz myself or piss myself at any moment
22:59 <Nothing\> even though there's no need to do either
24:00 <Nothing\> just to be sure it's not prostate related or epidydimitis or something i "cleaned my pipes" a few times in the last few days, which is more than i've done it in the last half year if i'm being honest.
24:30 <Nothing\> so i thought maybe it was related to that, because i've heard of guys developing prostatitis and epidydimitis from not doing that frequently enough
24:40 <Nothing\> but i don't think that's it
25:13 <Nothing\> lol it's almost like trying to deal with a fussy baby
25:31 <Nothing\> you try one thing, see if it calms it down, then when that fails you try something else
26:18 <Nothing\> right now i'm taking the UTI approach of just pushing as much water through my system as i'm comfortable with, since i haven't been drinking much lately and lost a lot of fluids
26:22 <Halcyon> But ultimately... what's the greater good. I think there would be a good reason to argue that this data was used to solve serious/major crimes and ultimately the user agreed to the terms.
26:33 <Halcyon> If they didn't read them, oh well, whose fault is that?
29:06 <Erhard> But according to my rule it WILL be sued for other purposes, regardless
29:25 <Erhard> It may be forbidden, even illegal, but that never stops any of the big governments
29:41 <Erhard> If it's technically possible the governments are doing it.
29:57 <Erhard> Regardless of laws or Constitutions, etc.
30:17 <Erhard> And they can cram it where the sun don't shine.
31:46 <Nothing\> i should try to make an RLC circuit with a 10uf ceramic cap and this AC motor that apparently has almost 1H of inductance
31:54 <Nothing\> i wonder if that would even work
32:00 <Halcyon> That's not my experience here
32:17 <Halcyon> We get audited and checked so many bloody times, it's doesn't "just happen"
32:21 <Nothing\> i guess if an RLC meter can measure the inductance, it shouldn't matter whether it's a motor or not
32:29 <Halcyon> Also, the data self-deleted after a set period (in NSW)
33:02 <steve30> I managed a walk up to to ATM
35:42 <Erhard> Yeah, but you are not the MI-5/Mi-6 equiv.
35:52 <Erhard> Those are the folks that get carte blanche
36:01 <Erhard> FBI/CIA/NSA here
36:08 <Erhard> They do what they want.
36:12 <Erhard> No proper oversight
36:39 <Erhard> There is public "oversight" but they constanlty go beyond it. That's a joke
42:12 <Halcyon> Our security agencies have even less powers than we do and even more scrutiny.
42:27 <Halcyon> They basically have to go to a court for everything. We have covert courts set up for just that reason.
42:50 <Erhard> They are likely doing far more than you know.
42:57 <Erhard> Just like they do here.
43:04 <Erhard> And everywhere... All for the children
43:04 <Halcyon> I know because I work with those types of organisations
43:12 <Erhard> They can't tell you.
43:15 <Halcyon> I won't pretend to be across everything they do, but I have a fairly good idea
43:25 <Halcyon> Not just from the work I do for them directly, but my peers
43:47 <Erhard> You can be certain that in AU they do a lot of crazy stuff, just like UK or US.
43:58 <Halcyon> Define "crazy"
44:00 <Erhard> No accountability.
44:11 <Halcyon> There is always accountability, at every level
44:16 <Erhard> I mean spying on their own citizens. violating various laws and costitutions.
44:17 <Halcyon> And plenty of it, almost annoyingly so
44:22 <Erhard> Uh huh
44:36 <Erhard> There is supopsed to be here too.
44:45 <Erhard> It has been proven time and time again that is a load of bullcrap
44:47 <Halcyon> Oh, make no mistake, we DO spy on our own citizens. That's what ASIO's charter is. That's not secret at all
44:55 <Erhard> Hah
44:59 <Halcyon> In fact, it's on their website
44:59 <Erhard> Well, we are not allowed to
45:02 <Erhard> But they do
45:16 <Erhard> That's a constitutional flaw then
45:29 <Halcyon> But 99.9% of people will never be touched by these organisations as they don't fall within their rights to do so
45:34 <Halcyon> If you're a crook, different story
45:44 <Halcyon> No, not at all
45:45 <Erhard> For the children
45:52 <Halcyon> Sure, if you like
46:06 <Halcyon> But these organisations aren't watching what you and I watch on Pornhub...
46:13 <Halcyon> Well, they watch me, but that's because I signed up to it
46:18 <Erhard> LOL. I bet they are here
46:24 <Erhard> And in Canada, where PH is based
47:09 <Halcyon> We work with your RCMP on some jobs as well
47:17 <Halcyon> It's pretty impressive what they can do
47:27 <Halcyon> But I cannot say anymore, not here
48:03 <Erhard> I spend a lot of time in CA... No doubt.
48:06 <Erhard> .ca
48:09 <Erhard> not Calif
48:27 <Halcyon> I think Canadia have borrowed a few tricks from the US
48:48 <Halcyon> Ooooh IKEA is here
48:49 <Erhard> No doubt.
48:49 <Halcyon> :D
48:52 <Halcyon> BRB
48:59 <Erhard> Have fun putting it together.
49:07 * Erhard heads off for a bit
49:12 <Halcyon> Oh it's just kitchen stuff
49:16 <Halcyon> No flat pack
49:24 <Erhard> ;-)
51:59 <Halcyon> Oh I love their corregated cardyboard packaging they use
52:03 <Halcyon> Soooo good for ebay things
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07:36 <T3sl4> tsk Halcyon, i'm pretty sure tim hunkin's videos have been linked in here before
07:57 <T3sl4> shame on you for not noticing sooner! :P
12:05 <Halcyon> Get fucked :P
12:54 <Halcyon> If I want to repeat things, I fucking will :P
12:59 * Halcyon licks T3sl4 
13:13 <T3sl4> fucking fuck
13:52 <Halcyon> How are you my friend?
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18:08 <steve30> https://www.gayforum.org/download/file.php?avatar=543_1602069888.gif
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20:46 <Erhard> Ok...
21:07 <Nothing\> steve30, https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/3a/15/d53a158e64ed97cab6eb1c4fe4672f07.jpg
21:16 <Nothing\> one of my favourite cat memes
21:40 <steve30> hehe
21:47 <Nothing\> now if somebody could just figure out how to draw a cockerel from a penis
21:51 <Nothing\> the world would be perfect
21:51 * T3sl4 meows at Nothing\
21:52 <steve30> That's the kind of kitty halcyon would approve of
22:13 <Nothing\> or a bollock from a pair of balls
22:27 <Nothing\> i could sorta see that
22:31 <Nothing\> if the balls were his eyes
22:45 <Nothing\> or unevenly shaped and one was his head and one was his body
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24:20 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
24:42 <steve30> hi
24:48 <T3sl4> i'm good :)
29:52 <Halcyon> Sleep well?
31:22 <T3sl4> what's that?
31:28 <Halcyon> Ahhh you got me :P
31:44 <T3sl4> i expect to, in a few hours
31:56 <Nothing\> DENTAL PLAN
32:09 <Nothing\> also hey Ysjoelfir
32:17 <T3sl4> Nothing\ needs braces
32:18 <Nothing\> how's the day treating you thus far?
32:24 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir
32:33 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i probably would if i weren't missing half my teeth
32:39 <Ysjoelfir> It seems like the day thinks I am dirty so it needs to wash me thoroughly
32:43 <Nothing\> the last few months i've been feeling all of my front teeth shifting around
32:43 <steve30> my teeth are wonky these days
32:46 * Ysjoelfir hugs T3sl4 back
32:51 <T3sl4> i could use some again tbh, or invisaligns, but it's ok
33:00 <Nothing\> my one bottom I tooth is at a 90 degree angle, perfectly parallel with my front teeth
33:07 <Nothing\> but mostly my teeth are straight and true
33:18 <T3sl4> that's a little out of kilter
33:29 <Nothing\> yeah but that's the worst problem
33:38 <Nothing\> the only other problem is my front teeth overlap imperceptibly
33:56 <Nothing\> i was even able to fit all of my wisdom teeth in
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34:06 <Nothing\> but i still lost them cuz they're so far back, you just can't brush them properly
34:16 <Nothing\> and with my already soft enamel, they just fell apart like glass
34:35 <Nothing\> that was back when i had 5 abscessed teeth at the same time cuz our socialized medicine doesn't cover dental care
34:44 <Nothing\> and as of recently, itdoesn't cover eyecare either
34:49 <Nothing\> which is bullshit
34:49 <steve30> I had braces back in 2004/2005, which straightened them out, but they've gone wonky since
35:02 <T3sl4> as is the british way, steve30
35:05 <Nothing\> steve30, ugh braces would drive me nuts
35:15 <Nothing\> i can't stand the feeling of anything metal touching my teeth
35:19 <steve30> Nothing\, i got used to them after a while
35:32 <Nothing\> aside from the couple of amalgam fillings i have, but i've had those since the early 90's
35:36 <T3sl4> the pokey bits are the worst, gotta use that wax they give you, religiously
35:45 <Nothing\> i don't even think they use amalgam anymore. I haven't had an amalgam filling in decades
36:03 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i never got any wax for broken teeth
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36:11 <T3sl4> with braces i mean
36:12 <steve30> I sacked my dental practise a couple of years ago so haven't had a checkup for a while.
36:14 <Nothing\> oh you mean for the braces
36:15 <Nothing\> right
36:21 <Nothing\> huh i didn't realize you had to wax them
36:33 <Nothing\> i guess they would be really irritating agaist the oral mucosa, huh?
36:35 <steve30> I didn't wax them
36:46 <Nothing\> constantly rubbing against your buccal surfaces
36:55 <Nothing\> or is it lingual i always forget
37:01 <Nothing\> i think lingua stands for tongue
37:08 <Nothing\> but then i second guess myself and think it stands for lips
37:12 <Nothing\> then i just get confused
37:28 <T3sl4> it's not like the old days with literal clamps and wire ends just all over the fuckin place, thank god
37:42 <Nothing\> which confuses my dentist when i'm trying to use anatomical terms while all doped up on sedatives and nitrous and i'm confusing myself like that
38:00 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i just remember people having rubber bands in their mouths
38:02 <T3sl4> still quite a few corners that are irritating, and it's simply bigger than your teeth normally are so it's gonna rub on your cheeks
38:04 <Nothing\> which really freaked me out
38:14 <T3sl4> yes, lingual for tongue, labial for lips
38:19 <Nothing\> or those super old ones like in the simpsons where they basically surround your entire head
38:27 <Nothing\> which i don't see how one can sleep like that
38:37 <Nothing\> T3sl4, buccal for lipside
38:40 <T3sl4> the headware is still necessary for severe cases of over/underbite
38:47 <steve30> My glasses are still broken. My Mum got the optician to order a replacement part for me, but she warned me that the staff there have turned into little-Hitlers. So time will tell if I actually get my glasses repaired or not.
38:49 <Nothing\> like the lip side of your gums and teeth is the buccal side
39:08 <T3sl4> i thought that was more palate but i'm not sure
39:09 <Nothing\> it's funny cuz whenever i heard my dentist describing my various cavities, i always thought he was saying buckle
39:24 <Nothing\> palate would be palatine i believe
39:33 <T3sl4> goth teeth covered in buckles
39:41 <Nothing\> or at least conditions relating to it, i'm not sure of anatomical position names
40:13 <Nothing\> i used to be friends witha dental hygienist. I really should have picked her brain more about anatomical positions names and teeth numbers and such
40:20 <Nothing\> oh, you know what's weird
40:52 <Nothing\> i needed a root canal (one of at least a dozen or more) on my one I tooth on the bottom right. And afterwards a crown.
41:09 <Nothing\> and for some reason they made the crown shaped like a premolar, not an i tooth
41:26 <Nothing\> which is fine by me, all the teeth i'm missing are molars so i need all the chewing teeth i can get
41:44 <Nothing\> i just thought it was weird that they essentially replaced my i tooth with a premolar
41:57 <Nothing\> so now i have 3 premolars down there
42:41 <Nothing\> but man, i realized last night i've probably got no more than 5-10 years before dentures
43:51 <Nothing\> all of my teeth are very perceptibly loose. Like you can push on them and feel them wiggle. So i've got periodontal disease. But damned if i'm getting a cleaning on account of 1. the hatred of metal scraping on my teeth and 2. ptsd from a childhood trauma
44:52 <Nothing\> which is probably part of the reason my oral health has suffered so much. There was a period of about 15 years where i didn't even see a dentist. But then dental care isn't included in our socialized medicine and being on welfare i didn't have any money for my teeth. I barely had enough to put food on the table.
45:13 <Nothing\> they had insurance, but it only covered extractions :/
45:20 <Nothing\> don't even think it covers dentures
46:00 <Nothing\> but i've already decided i'd rather lose my teeth than get another cleaning. So i won't be doing that. But for some reason absolutely no dentist will do anything for me until i get a cleaning.
46:26 <T3sl4> just go starve, then show up to emergency for emaciation, they'll have to treat you, in the most expensive way possible comparing to the cause
46:43 <Nothing\> nah
46:48 <Nothing\> healthcare system's broken from covid
46:54 <Nothing\> nobody's getting any healthcare
47:11 <Nothing\> shit, i had my GP assess my torn rotator cuff over the phone ffs
47:18 <Nothing\> how the hell does that even work?
48:24 <Nothing\> luckily my methadone doctor has a pain management practice out of town so he sees a lot of orthopedic injuries and was willing to assess it for me and refer me for physio and write a note to my doctor demanding a proper assessment and imaging since such an injury could potentially require surgery based on how bad the tear is
48:51 <Nothing\> i'm hoping physio will be enough. I'm too young for orthopedic surgery
48:58 <Nothing\> young and inactive
49:44 <Nothing\> but i'm literally crippled. I can't help with the groceries, can't move my tear-down electronics upstairs into the spare room. I can't even lift my arm above my head
50:30 <Nothing\> i tried to do a full rotation of my shoulder, and could only manage 120 degrees before it just refused to go any further, then exploded with pain
51:15 <Nothing\> thank god it only hurts when i irritate it like that. If it hurt like that constantly i'd be in the ER every night demanding treatment
51:45 <Nothing\> and they'd probably just assume i'm trying to get pain killers cuz my GP put in my record that i'm a drug seeker because i was transparent with him about being on methadone
52:22 <steve30> My doctor fired me in January, so i don't even have one any more. Having said that I'm not sure whether having orthopaedic issues diagnosed over the telephone is going to be any better than not getting them diagnosed at all.
52:27 <Nothing\> cuz a drug seeker would totally be forthright about being on powerful opiates with their doctor, thus ruining any chance of ever being prescribed anything stronger than advil
53:04 <Nothing\> steve30, yeah no shit. And get this, my GP absolutely refuses to come into the office for any reason, as I've described.
53:18 <Nothing\> yet my psychiatrist absolutely refuses to do phone appointments
53:37 <Nothing\> so the one doctor who doesn't actually need to physically see his patients is the only one physically seeing them
53:50 <steve30> thats good at least
54:00 <Nothing\> andn it's not just my doctor who's diagnosing stuff over the phone, my mom's doctor's been doing the same
54:23 <Nothing\> it's frustrating cuz she has some alarming lesions on her skin and has had a lot of UV exposure in the past
54:33 <Nothing\> but of course the doctor just prescribed a creame
54:59 <Nothing\> it's so frustrating how every other medical condition has taken a backseat to covid
55:00 <steve30> I actually saw my doctor at his office, where he explicitly said he didn't want me as a patient any more. TBH I had to give him credit for being honest, as health care is so bad in this country that most of the time they'll just provide a shitty service until you give up of your own accord.
55:02 <Nothing\> even cancer
55:18 <Nothing\> how come he didn't want to see you anymore?
55:38 <Nothing\> i mean, i've only ever been banned from one doctor's office and that was because i was caught double doctoring for narcotics
55:53 <Nothing\> that is, i'd see him one week for a script, then another doctor the next week for another script and so on
56:03 <Nothing\> very illegal, i'm lucky i wasn't arrested
56:19 <Nothing\> cuz most people who do that are selling the drugs, but i was just taking them
56:48 <Nothing\> that was one thing i always refused to do. I never EVER sold drugs. I shared on very rare occassions with great reluctance, but that's it
57:03 <steve30> Basically he brought up a political matter which i disagreed with, which resulted in him insinuating that I was somehow dangerous.
57:22 <Nothing\> well i dunno about where you are (USA?)
57:28 <steve30> England
57:31 <Nothing\> ah
57:51 <steve30> [We have one of the worst healthcare systems in the developed world]
57:58 <Nothing\> well, here there's a zero tolerance policy regarding abuse or perceived abuse of any sort against health care professionals
58:18 <Nothing\> you yellat your doctor and they'll call the cops to have you removed and trespassed from the property
58:34 <Nothing\> steve30, i dunno, ours is pretty bad too
58:42 <steve30> This particular doctor is full time private work, so no connection at all to the state funded NHS, but there are very few private ones around, as the NHS pretty much has a monopoly
58:45 <Nothing\> it's like i keep telling yanks, just cuz it's free doesn't mean it's good
59:03 <Nothing\> but i guess it's better than a non-free system that's still shitty
59:32 <Nothing\> i was just reading an editorial yesterday about how america's healthcare system isn't on the verge of collapse like the media and professionals keep saying
59:37 <Nothing\> that it already has collapsed
59:43 <Nothing\> and we need to stop mincing words
59:57 <Nothing\> so more drastic action can be taken
00:36 <Nothing\> he was describing the case of a man with some variety of pancreatitis i think it was, relating to gall stones. Very treatable with surgery. But requires a short stay in the ICU.
00:53 <Nothing\> the guy lived in the Houston area, a part of the US with the best healthcare in the country
01:00 <Nothing\> and he died in the hospital
01:16 <Nothing\> because they just didn't have the resources to care for him after his surgery, so they never did it
01:23 <Nothing\> no ICU bed for him, for example
01:39 <Nothing\> and the author was arguing that such things are symptoms of a system that's already broken
01:53 <Nothing\> not on the verge of collapse
02:01 <steve30> Our health system has been broken for years
02:06 <Nothing\> so has ours
02:22 <Nothing\> ever since the 90's, doctors were getting stiffed on what they were getting paid
02:32 <Nothing\> so a lot of them left ontario, creating a severe doctor shortage
02:36 <Nothing\> which led to long wait times
02:50 <Nothing\> i had to wait 6 months for an MRI just to find out if i had a stroke
02:52 <Nothing\> which i had
03:12 <Nothing\> luckily it didn't seem to do anything noticable though. I didn't even notice it happen tbh.
04:02 <Nothing\> the lesion was just found incidentally in a regular MRI for something unrelated. So I had to wait that 6 months for an MRI angiogram to map the blood vessels and things of that nature
04:30 <Nothing\> lol even then, they didn't even seem to care that a 30 year old had a stroke
04:48 <Nothing\> they never looked into why i had it, when i had it, or if i was at risk of having another
05:48 <Nothing\> but since tehy run heavily in the family, i'm diabetic, have high cholesterol and have already had a stroke previously, that puts me at pretty high risk
06:03 <Nothing\> come to think of it, i wonder if children's aspirin would help prevent strokes
06:30 <Nothing\> i never thought of that till now, but if it stops blood clots in your heart, surely it can stop blood clots in your brain
07:24 <Nothing\> oh hey, steve30 on a totally unrelated tangent
07:42 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW Video on EEVblog2! Playing with short current pulses on multimeters https://t.co/jLJfT5uKR8
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07:51 <Nothing\> i was wondering if you could put a personal, but fun message in the topic for me. If that's the sort of thing you do in this channel.
08:04 <Nothing\> I want it to say "root 2 makes pi look like 3"
08:27 <Nothing\> or maybe i should just tattoo that on my forehead
08:38 <steve30> hehe
08:46 <Nothing\> sorry, i'm talky. pressured speech for some reason.
08:58 <Nothing\> possibly post anxiety attack euphoria
09:16 <Nothing\> on the bright side, it looks like i'll be quitting weed again
09:31 <Nothing\> cuz every time i've smoked this week i've had severe anxiety attacks
09:45 <steve30> I might consult Halcyon on topic changes tbh, as I don't want it to be ambiguous
09:50 <Nothing\> so why bother. it kinda defeats the purpose if i smoke it to relax
09:50 <steve30> But I do quite like fun IRC topics :)
10:04 <Nothing\> steve30, thanks, i'll do that
10:15 * T3sl4 wonders why isn't anyone /doing/ anything about steve30's part message
10:37 <Nothing\> lol what's this i keep hearing about steve30 's part message?
10:40 <Nothing\> also, heya T3sl4
10:44 <Nothing\> how you doing buddy?
10:47 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
10:56 * Nothing\ tackle hugs T3sl4 <3
10:59 <steve30> T3sl4, might be something to take up with Baljem.
11:03 <Nothing\> thanks man, i appreciate that
11:10 <T3sl4> steve30, who the hell is that :^)
11:19 <Nothing\> if only internet hugs were real hugs
12:10 <Nothing\> oh man i've got some kick ass morning glories growing in my garden
12:27 <Nothing\> i found some unique colors in them and cross pollinated them with some of the normal colored ones
12:37 <T3sl4> i planted some random pepper seeds months ago, in the pot with some of my spider plants
12:56 <T3sl4> amazingly, they've grown to flowering, quite small still but they have flowers and a couple fruit now
13:03 <Nothing\> spider plants are cool, but i think they're either poisoninous, or attractive to cats
13:07 <Nothing\> or both
13:09 <Nothing\> i forget
13:17 <T3sl4> i should actually get some proper sized pots, and soil and all that, but eh
13:28 <Nothing\> but morning glories grow like crazy. And they're vines so the clumb up everything
13:41 <steve30> No idea where baljem disappeared off to, but he still appears on twitter from time to time
13:41 <steve30> https://twitter.com/baljemmett
13:49 <T3sl4> also since i've been watering them regularly the last year or two, they've grown ENORMOUS, lots of babies, spread across the window sill
13:59 <Nothing\> almost my entire backyrad gardaen is nothing but morning glories
14:18 <T3sl4> steve30: yeah i know, the joke being, he doesn't have any history on this exact channel
14:19 <Nothing\> they've enveloped all of the spinners and creatures and knick knacks my mum put out there
15:00 <Nothing\> btw, do you guys know of any tiny blue flowers that are fairly easy to grow?
15:09 <T3sl4> and yeah morning glories love to climb, mom had some, i forget what, on a cheap wire frame thingy in the garden, they got top heavy in just a couple years
15:23 <T3sl4> chickory? maybe not indoors, they love sun
15:27 <Nothing\> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Himalayan_blue_poppy_in_a_Scottish_garden.jpg
15:28 <EEVBot> [Title] - Wikimedia Error
15:31 <Nothing\> something like that
15:41 <Nothing\> but maybe ankle height to low shin
16:11 <Nothing\> and much easier to grow. Himalayan poppies are those sorts of plants that only horticulturalists with training and equipment can HOPE to grow
16:17 <Nothing\> even then, it's difficult
16:32 <Nothing\> and i want little blue flowers covering my entire yard
16:56 <Nothing\> with flowers about the width of my thumb's length
17:03 <Nothing\> maybe an inch or so wide
17:16 <Nothing\> it's hard finding such a specific plant, though
17:27 <Nothing\> perhaps some sort of wildflower
17:57 <Nothing\> hrm T3sl4 chickory's along the right ideas
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18:29 <T3sl4> roses come in blue, i think partly you need basic soil to do it or something. but varieties of rose can be rather hard to grow. native roses just grow like weeds around here, they're just not that impressive to look at
18:30 <Nothing\> but i don't want it to have petals like that, i want more of a "cup" or "bowl" shaped flower
18:51 <Nothing\> nah those are too bid, both the flowers and eth flants
19:04 <Nothing\> i just want small plants and flowers
19:32 <T3sl4> i mean there's probably some dwarfs that would be window sill-friendly, but still
19:34 <Nothing\> https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*4eOHw98SEK-nZnyPHf808g.png
19:39 <Nothing\> like these
19:46 <Nothing\> and yes, that is keanu
19:47 <T3sl4> i'll have to think if i can remember what other blue flowers i've seen, ofc purple things are all over
20:06 <T3sl4> violets are very low, but also only briefly in spring
20:15 <T3sl4> or crocuses, those can be blue
20:16 <Nothing\> hrm
20:37 <Nothing\> maybe when crispr becomes available to the common man i could genetically engineer violets that are blue
20:37 <T3sl4> oh, and the obvious cornflower, basically chickory again i think, i forget
20:43 <Nothing\> and produce opium
20:46 <Nothing\> and thc
20:48 <Nothing\> lol
20:58 <Nothing\> sell it for a prophet
21:03 <Nothing\> profit
21:05 <T3sl4> hm, thc opium
21:11 <T3sl4> now see
21:26 <T3sl4> put some uh magic mushroom in there
21:33 <T3sl4> and it's for prophet, literally
21:44 <T3sl4> psilocybin
22:48 <Nothing\> yeah they're actually working on genetically engineering yeast to produce opium, because right now to make a lot of phenanthrene based opiates, basically the classic morphine type, they have to rely on opium poppy crops
23:09 <Nothing\> which you need at least 1 square foot for each plant, and you only get maybe a few drops of opium per plant
23:36 <Nothing\> so you need to put a LOT of time, money, resources and manpower into harvesting opium to make pharmaceuticals, which drives up the price
24:31 <Nothing\> the idea is if we can get something easier to grow like yeast to produce these drugs, we'll not only not have to rely on opium poppies anymore, but all of the cartel crap and drug wars and politics surrounding that won't be an issue either
25:00 <Nothing\> T3sl4, actually i read recently they're doing serious studies into using magic mushrooms as an antidepressant
25:05 <Nothing\> or at least the active ingredient
25:40 <Nothing\> which, having used themm and LSD in the past, i have no doubt they have the power to deeply and fundamentally alter your psyche. IN THE RIGHT SET AND SETTING
26:16 <Nothing\> but you do it wrong and you're in for a 12 hour existential nightmare as you watch your head grandbother climbing up your leg with a knife in her teeth.
26:28 <Nothing\> as a famous author i'm sure nobody here's heard of once said
26:50 <T3sl4> did you see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJVXAALRfRo ?
26:51 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Late Night at the Mushroom Lab
27:07 <T3sl4> that is most surely a guy who knows, cerebrally, what he is talking about
27:17 <Nothing\> they the drugs do have potential to do either serious and permanent harm, or serious and permanent good. It's just amatter of your mood going in and what all happens during the experience.
27:32 <Nothing\> T3sl4, is that about photographing mushrooms?
27:50 <Nothing\> i've always been interested in fungi just because they're a completely separate kingdom
27:54 <Nothing\> like protists
27:58 <T3sl4> nah it's the crime pays botany doesn't guy go fuck yourself eh
28:24 <T3sl4> but that was a good vid too, the guy who took all those luscious shots of luminescent shrooms
28:28 <Nothing\> hrm unable to access page @ link
28:32 <Nothing\> oh that's why
28:36 <Nothing\> i copied your question mark
28:51 <Nothing\> that's better
29:06 <Nothing\> oh, this is a documentary?
29:25 <T3sl4> just an interview/tour
29:46 <Nothing\> ah, well i'll have to wacth it when i can give it more attention than i owuld now
29:57 <Halcyon> steve30, what's up?
30:11 <steve30> i'm just reading forums
30:15 <Nothing\> hey Halcyon
30:25 <Nothing\> i posted a picture earlier that steve said you'd dig
30:27 <Nothing\> one sec
31:08 <Nothing\> here Halcyon
31:10 <Nothing\> https://external-preview.redd.it/kSbjc88gCVDvrvsGl53RH8oNON88EN0CuuWm-utFn2U.jpg?auto=webp&s=e74a2e07f74baa198bc490878028a620aaa06cc2
31:17 <Nothing\> he said you'd get a kick out of it
32:02 <Halcyon> Hahahaha
32:04 <Halcyon> Clever
36:28 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uos7_k5-IM
36:29 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: BETTER THAN TAKEOUT - Cantonese Chow Mein Recipe
36:34 <Halcyon> Mmmm these look like delicious noodles
37:19 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Feeling lazy on a Friday afternoon, so I might do a 1hr live stream on the 2nd channel in a few minutes before I head home...
39:07 <Ysjoelfir> mornings Halcyon#
40:10 <Halcyon> Howdy Ysjoelfir
40:15 * T3sl4 dumps spicy noods on Halcyon
40:31 <Halcyon> :D
40:31 * Ysjoelfir foods dem all
47:08 <steve30> yay a dave stream :)
47:28 <Halcyon> I probably should login to that
47:47 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I'm now LIVE! https://t.co/kdEdGd2Wou
55:42 <K> hello grapes
56:15 <Halcyon> Hello passionfruit
57:04 <K> eew
57:15 <K> wait, is that one edible?
57:51 <Halcyon> Very
58:01 <Halcyon> It's extremely delicious
58:08 <Halcyon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passiflora_edulis
58:10 <EEVBot> [Title] - Passiflora edulis - Wikipedia
58:18 <Halcyon> I would rate it up there with mango and other summer fruits
59:09 <K> eeew mango
59:26 <Halcyon> What kind of person are you?
59:46 <K> mango is fish and soap and spruce needles
00:00 <Halcyon> !?
00:02 <K> at least ones we get here
00:08 <T3sl4> passionfruit has an extremely fragrant scent
00:12 <Nothing\> wow that was annoying
00:22 <Nothing\> somehow i enabled sticky keys by holding shift too long
00:24 <K> twice i've tried, both times wanted to wash my mouth afterwards
00:29 <Halcyon> Mango is delicious. Sweet, juicy, the flavour is hard to describe
00:29 <Nothing\> so windows woudln't let me use my keyboard at all
00:37 <T3sl4> i disabled that about a decade ago
00:40 <T3sl4> mango is somewhat carroty i'd say
00:43 <Nothing\> yeah i disabled it
00:44 <Halcyon> Somewhere between a peach and an orange maybe?
00:59 <Nothing\> but apparently there was some other way it started up or osmething, i dunno
01:19 <T3sl4> but i haven't had nearly all the varieties, idk
01:36 * Halcyon throws tinned mangos are K
01:38 <Halcyon> *at
01:50 <Halcyon> I don't think I could send you the fresh stuff
01:51 * T3sl4 throws mangoed tin at Halcyon
01:52 <K> look at the police officer, littering
02:07 <Halcyon> You were supposed to catch it :P
02:13 <Nothing\> it was weird cuz it just enabled without a prompt
02:21 <K> "here, catch the axe!"
02:36 <Nothing\> so windows was ignoring absolutely all keyboard activity
02:48 <K> sry im a bit grumpy this morning, got woken up for a useless meeting
03:11 <T3sl4> that's unnice
03:25 <Halcyon> How rude
03:29 <Halcyon> Don't they know you need to sleep?
03:36 * T3sl4 puts Halcyon's coffee by K
03:46 <Halcyon> I'm onto the redders
05:09 <steve30> hehe, Halcyon is famous
05:40 <Halcyon> I got him on a tangent :P I know he loves talking about this stuff
05:45 <Nothing\> ah crap that sucked
05:56 <Nothing\> trying to pull an ATX power cord out of a cheap power bar
06:18 <Nothing\> damn thing just didn't wanna let ge
06:34 <K> nah, coffee is for saturday and sunday breakfasts only
06:58 <Nothing\> oh snap! i got paid
07:02 <Nothing\> time to get some games
11:17 <T3sl4> i should get psychonauts 2, it's out now
13:54 <Halcyon> Good comment DogWomble_
14:12 <Halcyon> One of my favourite videos
14:19 <DogWomble_> :D @Halcyon he seems to remember the vide o:)
15:15 <steve30> I notice Dave isn't wearing a mask.
15:27 <Halcyon> He doesn't have to
15:40 <Halcyon> He isn't in a public place
24:49 <K> hello plums
24:58 <T3sl4> hello cherry
25:22 <Halcyon> hello necatine
25:27 <Halcyon> *nectarine
25:50 <Ysjoelfir> Hi quince
25:58 <K> quince?
26:16 * T3sl4 pinches Halcyon on his peach
26:25 <Ysjoelfir> like a pear with hair.
26:33 <K> https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parast%C4%81_cidonija
26:35 <EEVBot> [Title] - Parastā cidonija — Vikipēdija
26:50 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
26:55 <Halcyon> I love quince
27:02 <Halcyon> Great with blue cheese
27:17 <Halcyon> Or another strong cheese like goats cheese
27:21 <K> not very common around these parts
28:01 <K> despite having the prefix name "Basic"
28:17 <Halcyon> Quince is generally made into a jam/paste
28:29 <Ysjoelfir> its not very common in general I think, as its pretty hard to do anything usefull with quince. you have to "shave" it by rubbing it, then you need to cook it otherwise its not tasty at all (and IIRC even a bit toxic?)
28:42 <T3sl4> reminds me, i need to go around and check the pear trees around here i know of, see if they're dropping anything good yet :P
28:43 <K> ah
29:02 <K> this is more common, and localy is called just "cidonija" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaenomeles
29:03 <EEVBot> [Title] - Chaenomeles - Wikipedia
29:27 <Halcyon> https://www.daringgourmet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Membrillo-3-cropped.jpg
29:48 <K> no nasty hairs, but sour as fuck, has a ton of vitamin C and other stuff
30:01 <K> nice render, Halcyon
30:28 <Halcyon> Quince paste is very fruity and sweet, similar to pear paste
30:42 <Halcyon> Cuts though strong flavours
30:58 <Ysjoelfir> K - oh, I never knew those were also quinces. nice! I tried those some times when I was young, as those grew everywhere, but as you said, those are sour as hell
31:33 <K> the only use i know of is cutting them into small pieces, cover in lots of sugar and make a syrup
31:40 <K> and that is realy tasty
37:16 Quit: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit: Leaving
43:41 <Halcyon> I need coffee to get going in the mornings
45:58 <K> addict
46:13 <Halcyon> I normally only have one a day
46:20 <K> hm
46:22 <K> ok
46:24 <Halcyon> Plus it's good for you (without sugar)
47:05 * T3sl4 creams Halcyon
47:17 <Halcyon> Hehe I like my coffee black
48:18 <T3sl4> i prefer with milk and sugar
48:20 <Halcyon> Sorry, I should clarify, coffee here is ground beans and espresso, not that horrible instant stuff or drip coffee.
48:30 <T3sl4> eugh, drip
48:44 <Halcyon> You almost never see drip coffee, not even at McDonalds
49:32 <T3sl4> the worst i'll go is the instant stuff in packets, much better than the <gag, choke> jarred granules stuff, and reasonably better than drip
49:42 <T3sl4> but still a far sight from espresso
50:22 <Halcyon> I will never drink instant. Ever. I'll go without.
50:29 <K> jarred grannules stuff has it's flavour
50:39 <Halcyon> I think I've tasted a mouthful of instant once
50:40 <K> not that bad
50:52 <T3sl4> it has... a flavor
50:52 <K> well, duh, you are not supposed to do that
50:55 <T3sl4> taste however...
51:06 <K> taste is also ok, when the mood strikes
51:37 <Halcyon> I think the last time I saw a dripolator was at Maccas when I was a kid
52:00 <Halcyon> Now they just have cafe's inside the McDonalds
52:21 <Halcyon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCaf%C3%A9
52:22 <EEVBot> [Title] - McCafé - Wikipedia
53:51 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Damn, this edit is headed toward 40 minutes https://t.co/INcFrUvZtW
55:35 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @mcflyhh: How QR codes are made https://t.co/oanBjUxZIu
55:45 <T3sl4> do aus foodies pray in the direction of macca?
56:06 <Halcyon> Who's Macca?
57:04 <T3sl4> maccas?
57:16 <Halcyon> McDonalds isn't actually half bad
57:27 <Halcyon> I mean it's still fast food. But it's not greasy and horrible
57:53 <T3sl4> i haven't been to mcd's here in a very, very long time
04:28 <Halcyon> KFC?
07:15 <T3sl4> also not in a while, though i have no particular concerns about it
07:53 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW Video on EEVblog2! LIVE - Friday Afternoon https://t.co/z0RxMmw0ng
10:44 <DogWomble_> so we're talking McUpchuck and Kentucky Fried Chokeandpuke?
11:33 <Halcyon> Oh come on, it's not that bad
11:46 <Halcyon> I've had far worse at some other takeaway places
12:30 <T3sl4> if i'm in a rush i'll more often have some kind of sandwich, or other things depending on what's nearby
13:04 <K> mcdonalds is borderline acceptable
13:06 * Halcyon hocks some meat at T3sl4 
13:07 <K> kfc is ont
13:16 * steve30 hugs Halcyon 
13:33 * T3sl4 porks Halcyon's hocks
14:08 <K> some years ago we had a series of pics from local kfc, it was beyond disgusting and unsanitar
14:48 <Halcyon> Places just get closed if they are inspected in that manner and the fines are huge
15:21 <K> the one here got closed, all the staff fired and new staff hired
15:24 <T3sl4> who cares if there's fingernails in the fryer, it's all pasteurized
15:39 <K> but black mark still persisted
18:45 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/aVcuBdP.gif
20:22 * steve30 looks forward to bed time
20:35 <K> meanwhile: https://youtu.be/29bgJqpao6g?t=173
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43:00 <Ampera> good morning
43:17 <K> no u.
43:45 <Ampera> oh well I hope you have an even better morning than I originally implied
44:33 <K> i got woken up for bulshit meeting
45:12 <Ampera> I got woken up for this stupid thing called work
45:22 <K> like in the best part, where you kinda wake up an 1h before, see the clock, "ah, there is still some time", and doze off
45:55 <K> and then 15 mins later the fuckin phone rings
46:00 <K> am anoyed.
46:19 <Ampera> you're always annoyed
46:24 <K> no u.
48:34 <Ampera> I bought a bar of ugandan chocolate
48:47 <Ampera> tastes like it's 50% soy sauce
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49:05 <Ampera> I don't know who's pissing in their cocoa over there but it's nasty
49:44 <K> should see a doctor?
49:48 <K> if they had any
49:58 <Ampera> doctors are scams
50:04 <Ampera> they just prevent you from dying
50:05 <K> witch doctors
50:15 <Ampera> exactly
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24:45 * T3sl4 kevorkians Ampera
24:52 * Ampera offers T3sl4 hot tea
25:05 <T3sl4> \o/
25:18 <T3sl4> i wonder what earl grey r34 looks like
25:24 <T3sl4> tea earl grey, hawt
25:31 <Ampera> it is actually earl grey tea
25:44 <T3sl4> tbh i'm only surprised i hadn't ever thought of that sooner
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25:08 <Ampera> you know you work for a tech company when you get an email that starts off with "Hi FIRST.NAME LAST.NAME"
27:32 <electrohead> o/
27:37 * Ampera kisses electrohead 
28:11 <Ampera> my tea is still too hot to drink
32:35 <K> i need to get vibration logging/recording device, ~10g
32:49 <K> anyone knows where to start looking?
42:53 <Halcyon> Where's my kiss Ampera?
42:58 <Halcyon> I see how it is
43:03 <Ysjoelfir> vibration... hmm...
43:15 <Halcyon> Also T3sl4 wasn't it bed time a few hours ago?
45:29 <Ampera> Halcyon, I don't kiss the likes of you
45:45 <Ampera> I prefer to keep myself clean of sin and vanity
45:57 <Halcyon> *shrug* Suit yourself
46:27 <K> why not dress?
46:38 <Ampera> because he can't
50:25 <Halcyon> Hm?>
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55:13 <K> i've found this - https://endaq.com/collections/endaq-shock-recorders-vibration-data-logger-sensors/products/s3-vibration-sensor-s3-d16
55:14 <EEVBot> [Title] - enDAQ S3 - Vibration Sensor (S3-D16) | enDAQ
55:24 <K> and this - https://micromega-dynamics.odoo.com/shop/product/recovib-tiny-3753#attr=246,150
55:27 <EEVBot> [Title] - Recovib Tiny | Micromega Dynamics 
55:39 <K> it is for work, not personal
56:12 <Ysjoelfir> meh, weekend started, ahve to leave work now to catch my train xD if nobody finds something, I try to remember to go online later when im home
56:27 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)
06:04 * steve30 wakes up
06:20 <K> a bit late
08:07 * Ampera offers steve30 a cup of earl grey
22:00 <electrohead> o/
23:29 <K> headsssssssss
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26:11 <electrohead> hey mate
28:23 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
30:19 * electrohead gets hugged
37:06 <K> facehugger alert!
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38:16 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
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51:48 <rust_collector> and why?
54:39 <K> and when will you stop, you rascal.
56:38 <MrMobodies> Hello I have a question
56:55 <MrMobodies> in pubs where there is a brawl
57:05 <Ampera> you pull out your sidearm and win
57:10 <MrMobodies> some of them smash bottles behind the necks
57:31 <MrMobodies> what if the bottles where frozen, would that cause more damage?
57:40 <MrMobodies> theoretical question
57:46 <Ampera> The contents of the bottle you mean
57:57 <MrMobodies> yes frozen instread of liquid
58:15 <MrMobodies> glass bottle
58:18 <Ampera> That depends. If the intent is sheer blunt force, then an object with more mass moving at a higher velocity would transfer more energy on impact
58:24 <Ampera> thus likely causing more damage
58:31 <Ampera> however, there are more efficient means of injuring a person
58:49 <Ampera> and, depending on the size of a bottle, it may not be as easy to provide the same velocity with a frozen bottle
59:17 <K> hm also would depend on how full the bottle is
59:24 <MrMobodies> so i tmay not smash and cut them
59:36 <MrMobodies> when frozen
59:37 <Ampera> There is also different value to how you injure a person, if you want to knock them out cold, but leave little lasting injury, a heavy bottle of ice would be a better option
59:57 <Ampera> but if your intent is to simply cause as much grave injury as possible, smashing a bottle and using the sharp bits to lacerate them would likely produce better results
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