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00:23:25 Join: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) to #eevblog
00:23:27 <Nothing\> yay
00:23:32 <Nothing\> i finally got c++ working
00:23:32 <electrohead> nay
00:23:36 * Ampera kisses Nothing\
00:23:40 <Nothing\> after 2 years and 3 computers
00:23:40 * electrohead films
00:23:52 <Ampera> you did what takes me literally five minutes in that amount of time
00:23:53 <Ampera> impressive
00:23:54 * Nothing\ affections Ampera
00:23:54 <electrohead> Nothing\: what do you mean, you finally got c++ working?
00:24:06 <electrohead> Ampera: +1 lol
00:24:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah but i'm not you
00:24:22 <Ampera> that's a shame
00:24:27 <Ampera> then I'd have a good reason to ban you
00:24:31 <Nothing\> so i don't see how you can compare two things which by their very nature are dissimilar
00:24:48 <Ampera> easily
00:24:48 <Nothing\> also you were a newb at one point too
00:24:49 <Ampera> I just did
00:24:51 <Ampera> apples are just like oranges
00:25:18 <Nothing\> so you ragging on me for being a newb instead of actually helping our encouraging my just shows you're a jackoff
00:25:31 <Ampera> I'm not ragging on you, I'm just having fun
00:25:34 <Nothing\> one of those peolpe who thinks they're superior to everyone
00:25:40 <Nothing\> Ampera, well you're the only one
00:25:43 <Ampera> but I am superior to everyone
00:25:45 <Nothing\> and i've made it clear to you that you are
00:25:48 <Nothing\> repeatedly
00:25:53 <Nothing\> and that i don't appreciate
00:25:54 <Nothing\> it
00:25:55 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:26:07 <Nothing\> yeah i can see that's what you think of my feelings
00:26:12 <Nothing\> some friend
00:26:48 <Nothing\> saying it's a joke doesn't give you free reign to act like a jerk
00:26:52 <Ampera> I'm just waiting to see if this is a bait or not
00:27:01 <Nothing\> that's like something jake paul would do
00:27:09 <Nothing\> it's not
00:27:13 <Nothing\> why the hell would it be?
00:27:22 <Nothing\> i've already made this abundantly fucking clear to you
00:27:23 <Ampera> because this is the sort of stuff I'd do to get a rise out of people
00:27:29 <Nothing\> dude
00:27:36 <Nothing\> i get that you do that to get a rise out of people
00:27:47 <Ampera> looks like it's working quite well too
00:27:52 <Nothing\> and that's all well and good, i'll joke like that just fine too
00:28:01 <Nothing\> but when you do it EVERY FUCKING TIME I TALK TO YOU
00:28:11 <Nothing\> i start to wonder how much truth their is to these so-called jokes
00:28:18 <Nothing\> *there
00:28:19 * electrohead grabs the popcorn
00:28:28 <Ampera> hand me some, electrohead
00:28:37 <Nothing\> Ampera, ignored
00:28:51 * electrohead dumps the popcorn on Ampera and Nothing\, then wears the bucket as a hat
00:28:51 <Nothing\> i can see you don't give two shits about me or what i'm saying
00:28:59 <Nothing\> which is the very definition of a toxic relationship
00:29:05 * Ampera launches into an epic drum solo on electrohead's hat
00:29:20 <Nothing\> anyways electrohead
00:29:24 <Nothing\> what've you been up to?
00:29:44 <Nothing\> any new games or projects or anything of that nature keeping you busy these days?
00:29:56 <Ampera> I think that might have just beat my losing a friend speedrun record
00:30:15 <Ampera> I wonder if there's a global leaderboard...
00:30:34 <electrohead> lol..
00:30:37 <electrohead> Nothing\: I'm alright, man
00:30:42 <electrohead> just doing the coffee thing
00:30:47 <Nothing\> you and me both
00:30:52 <Nothing\> well, iced cappuccino
00:31:00 <Nothing\> coffee's too caffeine rich for my blood
00:31:07 <Nothing\> and iced caps from tim hortons taste so good
00:31:13 <electrohead> heh
00:31:19 <electrohead> I always make my coffee strong as fuck
00:31:24 <Nothing\> they have this taste almost like chocolatey caramel, it's weird
00:31:28 <electrohead> it helps jump-start my colon :p
00:31:33 <Nothing\> heh i used to drink like 1-2 pots of coffee a day
00:31:47 <Nothing\> electrohead, being on opiates i need a bit more oomph to do that
00:32:05 <electrohead> You should try getting off of those, my friend
00:32:10 <Nothing\> so i take 2 different kinds of laxatives,but then for some reason even when i DO have to go, as soon as i sit down, the feeling's gone
00:32:27 <Nothing\> so i have to sorta hover around the toilet for an hour or so while everything works its way into position
00:32:37 <electrohead> lmfao..
00:32:39 <Nothing\> and then hope i've chosen the right time for optimal unloading
00:32:58 <Nothing\> otherwise i only crap out a tiny little golf ball and the rest goes back up inside of me lol
00:33:34 <Nothing\> it's so stupid though, i managed to (i thought) thoroughly clean myself out the other day, had like 4 full sized BMs throughout the day
00:33:44 <Nothing\> then the next morning, i feel just as blocked up as ever
00:34:16 <Nothing\> and the one day i swear it was pressing on my prostate or something. It really felt weird and unpleasant and as if i was going to ejaculate at any moment
00:34:20 <Nothing\> which was hell in the car
00:35:10 <Nothing\> made me half wonder if i'm getting prostatitis or something from not cleaning the pipes frequently enough. Cuz I know that'll do that to you, and can lead to prostate cancer. Or epidydimitis
00:36:10 <Nothing\> although i've had friends who got epidydimitis and they said it's like permanent blue-balls
00:36:50 <Nothing\> still of all those problems, nothing scares me more than testicular torsion
00:37:35 <Nothing\> as long as i can remember i was always worried about my balls getting tangled together, but learned there's a septum, or wall of flesh separating them inside the scrotum. But they can still get twisted around D:
00:51:29 <rust_collector> I think it is best to just snip them off, probably, then you don't have to worry about it
00:52:05 <rust_collector> unless you have some weird thing you use them for
00:53:01 <Nothing\> rust_collector, honestly if i could find a doctor to do that for me, i would do it very gladly
00:53:14 <Nothing\> that and the fact that i know being castrated probably wouldn't feel too great
00:53:34 <Nothing\> and for all intents and purposes, i'm chemically castrated anyways so it's close enough
00:53:58 <Nothing\> i never liked the term chemically castrated though
00:54:10 <Nothing\> it implies first that the person is made sterile, which they're not
00:54:21 <Nothing\> and second that it's permanent, which again it's not
00:55:03 <Nothing\> it's just basically giving a made estrogen type hormones and other drugs to both kill their sex drive and make erections/orgasms difficult or impossible to achieve
00:55:19 <Nothing\> *giving a man
00:56:00 <Nothing\> i actually heard recently that poland is mandating chemical castration for sex offenders now
00:56:26 <rust_collector> there has to be some kind of chemical, that will? If it is "proper" to give that to someone... it is probably illegal, but I think it probably exists
00:56:55 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah i think male birth control pills are like the holy grail of that industry
00:57:27 <Nothing\> but i can tell you, even being "chemically castrated" i have a whole host of nasty side effects from it
00:57:51 <Nothing\> for example, type 2 diabetes and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease
00:58:07 <Nothing\> loss of muscle mass throughout my body
00:58:19 <Nothing\> increase in fat tissue, though not too bad thankfully
00:58:31 <Nothing\> i never developed full man tits like some guys do
00:58:43 <Nothing\> oh yeah, much as i'd hate to say it, my junk shrank too
00:58:45 <rust_collector> sure, but that is probably because you can stop taking those, and things will slide back to how they were. I am just almost sure there is something out there, that will shut it down, and keep it off
00:59:02 <Nothing\> rust_collector, actually i'm not taking anything, that's why i have these problems
00:59:20 <rust_collector> the male birth control pills, they are working on
00:59:22 <Nothing\> well, part of it is probably from the methadone, since that's what caused my low testosterone in the first place
00:59:43 <rust_collector> I think the issue is that they have to not destroy things
00:59:43 <Nothing\> but what caused it in me is i was getting testosterone shots for the low testosterone levels
01:00:20 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah i was actually thinking the only way they could really stop production of sperm is to cause damage to something that's responsible for sperm production
01:00:55 <Nothing\> but anyways, my testosterone shots were putting my levels way too high
01:01:27 <Nothing\> so i went off of that because i was tired of obsessing over sex constantly, and the legal problems i had, it would look good if i went off of it
01:01:56 <Nothing\> but then you go off of testosterone suddenly like that, you get a huge rebound effect because your body stops producting its own testerone
01:02:05 <rust_collector> send them over here. I can probably use some, lol
01:02:13 <Nothing\> i'm not sure why it lasts so long but my doctor said it's gonna be a life-long issue
01:02:41 <Nothing\> i checked my testosterone levels a few weeks ago and it was 65
01:02:52 <Nothing\> where the lowest normal level for a male is around 180
01:03:08 <rust_collector> I probably got mine checked, when I was 18, I have no idea
01:03:57 <Nothing\> i don't think they usually check it in non-old people unless they have a reason to check it as in my case
01:04:00 <Nothing\> ie. being on methadone
01:04:30 <Nothing\> but that's just speculation
01:04:43 <rust_collector> they did a lot of tests, when we are sent to the army. I have no idea.
01:04:52 <rust_collector> it is not like they told us anything
01:08:09 <rust_collector> same with all the shots we got. I have no idea what they were.
01:12:41 <Nothing\> ah that makes sense
01:13:17 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i remember in the UK army they recruited some soldiers to do some testing on a "potential treatment for the common cold"
01:13:34 <rust_collector> I just assume that was one of the tests they did.... I know nothing
01:13:46 <Nothing\> where scientists would put a few drops of a liquid on the soldier's clothing and observe the effects
01:13:56 <Nothing\> the liquid they were testing on the soldiers was sarin
01:14:13 <Nothing\> they pushed the dosage up so high that there was even a fatality from it
01:14:23 <Nothing\> and several incidents with severe reactions
01:15:05 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i've always wondered if the local hospital did some sort of experiment on me one time when i was there
01:15:44 <rust_collector> well, you will probably never know, lol
01:16:19 <Nothing\> i overdosed on sleeping pills and booze. I just remember taking the first few sleeping pills before sunset. Then my next memory is being in 4 point restraints, strapped to a bed in a plain white room with a clock that said 7:30am
01:16:44 <rust_collector> 4 days later? lol
01:16:46 <Nothing\> long story short, they let me go eventually
01:16:53 <Nothing\> lol no it was just the next day
01:17:07 <rust_collector> ....they told you... suuure
01:17:09 <Nothing\> but anyways, when i came out of it i had this weird mark on the bottom of my forearm
01:17:48 <Nothing\> it looked like the skin had turned to the consistency of plastic and had become dented, like somebody put the leg of a chair on my arm or a zippo and pressed down on it
01:18:15 <Nothing\> it was the same general size and shape as a zippo, but with my rounded corners
01:18:37 <Nothing\> but anyways, over the next 2 or so weeks, the skin that looked like plastic slowly fell off
01:18:38 <rust_collector> maybe they had a strap there?
01:18:45 <Nothing\> that's actually what i was thinking
01:18:55 <Nothing\> that maybe it was a pinch injury
01:19:05 <Nothing\> but you'd think they'd make the straps so they can't do that
01:19:28 <rust_collector> yeah, or if you are strapped down, and you turn the arm, it will cause a little bure pretty easily
01:19:30 <Nothing\> but anyways, after the skin all fell off it just left this deep, gaping ulceration
01:19:41 <Nothing\> which for some reason took 5 months to heal completely
01:19:55 <Nothing\> if not for the initial presentation, i would havethought it was a burn
01:20:08 <Nothing\> but there was no blistering or anything you normally get with burns
01:20:33 <Nothing\> but i have numb spots in the scar where nerve endings on the surface were killed, just like on a burn
01:20:47 <rust_collector> friction burns suck. I dunno?
01:21:00 <Nothing\> yeah it's baffling
01:21:23 <Nothing\> i mean i've had at least half a dozen 2nd/3rd degree burns that were more than a few inches in size
01:21:35 <Nothing\> so i know how a burn presents
01:21:58 <Nothing\> though i've never had one of those full thickness burns where the skin's charred and that
01:22:18 <Nothing\> maybe with enough heat, the skin become hard like plastic like that
01:22:19 <rust_collector> sure, but there is a difference between something hot burning you, and something "cold" twisting
01:22:34 <Nothing\> it wasn't really cold
01:22:49 <Nothing\> but in terms of the injury, aside from the initial presentation, no abosutely not
01:22:54 <rust_collector> it does not take much heat, to make "plastic" skin. a soldering iron is more than enough
01:23:22 <Nothing\> i've had severe pinch injuries and like i said, aside from the initial presentation, the skin still fell off and left an ulceration just like this thing on my forearm and just like a burn would
01:23:23 <rust_collector> cold, as in room temp, as I assume they do not heat up the straps?
01:23:37 <Nothing\> i just don't remember what the skin was like before it became ulcerated
01:23:49 <Nothing\> rust_collector, that's what i thought you meant
01:23:55 <Nothing\> just had to make sure
01:24:18 <Nothing\> but yeah i was thinking yesterday if it was an experiment, they'd probably want to follow up
01:24:23 <Nothing\> even if by some pretense
01:24:44 <rust_collector> hehe, my cousin once slid along a felt floor. he was not very pretty after that
01:24:50 <Nothing\> and i read through the ER report to understand what happened during the time i don't remember
01:24:59 <Nothing\> and there wasn't anything suspicious or redacted in it
01:25:14 <Nothing\> slid along the floor?
01:25:33 <Nothing\> i just picture sliding on your belly down a hall with an overly waxed floor
01:25:49 <Nothing\> like shuffleboard or curling
01:26:03 <Nothing\> man i want a shuffleboard table
01:26:12 <rust_collector> yeah. it was in my grandpas basement, we had some weird round furniture things, which we laid on the side, and rolled across them.
01:26:21 <Nothing\> we used to have one in the 80's. I dunno what happened to it.
01:26:34 <rust_collector> so he rolled too fast, and slid along the felt, lol
01:26:41 <Nothing\> lol
01:26:48 <Nothing\> somehow i never got hurt bad as a kid
01:27:17 <rust_collector> not me either. just some broken toes, and I cut my thumb off one time
01:27:34 <Nothing\> the worst two injuries i recall were when i was like 5, running through a sprinkler at my grandparents' house and i stepped on a piece of cactus that was on the ground from one of their plants
01:27:54 <Nothing\> i just remember my mom having to hold me while my grandfather pulled each needle out with pliers
01:28:42 <Nothing\> oh yeah, when i was 2 or 3 in preschool i tripped and split my forehead on a step with one of those metal linings to give you extra grip on the corner
01:29:01 <Nothing\> that wasn't bad, just 2 stitches. But it was the only time i ever needed stitches as a kid
01:29:30 <Nothing\> then the other injury that really sticks out is i used to run up to the monkey bars, then jump up and grab them.
01:29:53 <Nothing\> but this time when i grabbed them, my grip slipped and i fell on back and knocked the wind out of me
01:30:08 <Nothing\> which has to be one of the worst feelings every. Literally feels like your dying.
01:30:14 <rust_collector> someone should put super quick glue on those bars
01:30:24 <Nothing\> i wonder if anybody's actually died from having the wind knocked out of them
01:30:57 <rust_collector> probably, because people die for all kinds of random reasons
01:31:01 <Nothing\> i mean, if you're exerting yourself heavily enough, and your muscles are spasming for 3 or 4 minutes, that could potentially be long enough to at least cause brain damage
01:31:30 <Nothing\> yeah i used to be scared of how seemingly easy people can die
01:32:25 <Nothing\> but my experiences with drugs and talking to literally > 1000 drug users over the course of 20 has made me realize the human body can take a LOT more abuse than most people realize
01:32:26 <rust_collector> that is why it is very rase that I try to almost kill someone
01:32:46 <Nothing\> lol i remember when i was a kid, i loved the taste of children's chewable tylenol
01:32:58 <Nothing\> so one day i faked a headache just so i could get a couple of them
01:33:17 <Nothing\> then spent the whole day worrying that i'd overdosed because i took tylenol when i didn't need it
01:33:55 <Nothing\> fast forward 10 years and i'm taking the equivalent of 20 tylenols worth of percocet in a night
01:34:12 <Nothing\> which is definitely a good way to destroy your liver
01:36:06 <Nothing\> man i'm so glad to have a working c++ ide/compiler now
01:36:12 <Nothing\> those online compilers are crap
01:37:08 <Nothing\> ah man
01:39:44 <Nothing\> you hear about this new spacex mission they're working on
01:39:55 <Nothing\> the entire crew is going to made up of civilians
01:40:00 <Nothing\> no professional astronauts
01:40:25 <Nothing\> netflix is doing a documentary about it
01:40:39 <rust_collector> uuh, they are out in space, I think?
01:40:44 <Nothing\> yup
01:40:50 <Nothing\> that's true actually
01:40:56 <Nothing\> they should be returning soon, shouldn't they?
01:41:17 <rust_collector> probably. I think they were supposed to be there for 3 days
01:41:28 <Nothing\> yup
01:41:29 <rust_collector> and I think they have been there a day or 3
01:41:34 <Nothing\> and i heard yesterday was day 2
01:41:52 <Nothing\> good to know everything's going alright, presumably
01:42:02 <Nothing\> i'd assume we'd hear about it otherwise
01:42:10 <Nothing\> one thing about the spacex suits though
01:42:14 <Nothing\> wtf is with the boots?
01:42:16 <rust_collector> I don't really follow space stuff that much. I just heard it on the radio
01:42:29 <rust_collector> boots are good.
01:42:42 <Nothing\> the space suits for spacex use these weird looking knee-high boots
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01:43:19 <Nothing\> https://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2021/04/thomas_pesquet_in_spacex_flight_suit/23258399-1-eng-GB/Thomas_Pesquet_in_SpaceX_flight_suit_pillars.jpg
01:43:29 <Nothing\> it looks like something out of a 50's sci-fi
01:43:41 <Ampera> good morning
01:43:42 <rust_collector> that could be it...
01:43:45 <Ampera> how are you rust_collector
01:43:49 <Nothing\> i mean, do they really NEED the knee-high leather boots?
01:44:01 <rust_collector> sorry Ampera I still exist
01:44:18 <Ampera> that's good
01:44:20 <Nothing\> it looks like they just slide on and off so they're not even required for making it airtight
01:44:27 <Nothing\> aeosuntadeiosadoie
01:44:33 <Nothing\> now i wanna play KSP
01:44:33 <rust_collector> Nothing\ they probably could use toe-socks, but why not?
01:44:36 <Ampera> if you didn't exist, I'd have to get off my ass, run into purgatory, and pull you back into existence
01:44:45 <rust_collector> NOOO!
01:44:57 <rust_collector> that would be the wrong place anyway
01:45:01 <Ampera> hell?
01:45:01 <Nothing\> rust_collector, you know i've been saying for like a year now that they need to bring a cat up to the USS
01:45:05 <Nothing\> *ISS
01:45:07 <Ampera> I mean you live in Norway, that's already hell
01:45:09 <Nothing\> for moral support
01:45:20 <Ampera> so idk where else you'd be
01:45:23 <Nothing\> like how having a pet at retirement homes makes them happier
01:45:39 <Nothing\> having a cat floating around the ISS would provide a much needed boost to morale, i think
01:45:56 <Nothing\> you'd just have to figure out the literbox situation
01:46:04 <rust_collector> retirement homes don't fly off out into space, is someone pees
01:46:15 <Nothing\> sometimes they do
01:46:18 <Nothing\> you just have to
01:46:21 <Nothing\> BELIEVE
01:46:36 <rust_collector> mmhmm
01:47:51 <rust_collector> Imo, they should bring a case of hand grenades. just leave it sitting there
01:49:41 <rust_collector> Ampera there is no hell in the system I follow. there is a hell near trondheim airport... but that is maybe not the one I would be sent to when I die
01:49:55 <Ampera> maybe it is
01:50:07 <rust_collector> yes, but probably not
01:50:08 <Ampera> you get to spend eternity in an airport terminal waiting for a flight that will never arrive
01:50:41 <rust_collector> that is the feeling I get in any airport, after 9-11 anyway
01:51:15 <Ampera> you don't like being touched by someone your same gender who is very obviously not straight?
01:51:18 <Ampera> wow
01:51:22 <Ampera> how homophobic
01:51:53 <rust_collector> I tend to go on the crew side, lol. not very often there are such checks there
01:52:13 <rust_collector> even if I am sure many of them wish there was, lol
01:52:24 <Ampera> who wouldn't want to be felt up at work
01:52:34 <Ampera> oh wait...
01:53:12 <rust_collector> that work from home thing did not really work out for you, did it?
01:53:30 <Ampera> oh it's working great
01:53:33 <Ampera> they don't want me to come back
01:53:35 <Ampera> for some reason
01:54:43 <rust_collector> but no "bumping into" you in the elevator, or...
01:55:28 <Ampera> I never used the elevator
01:55:34 <Ampera> it's a lot more fun bumping into people on the stairs
01:55:39 <Ampera> for me anyways
01:55:44 <rust_collector> no wonder you have no friends
01:56:11 <rust_collector> they just wear out, if you send them down the stairs
01:56:11 <Ampera> you saying that somehow hurt me more than the actual knowledge that I have no friends
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01:56:53 <rust_collector> oh well. you should be old enough to learn that the easter bunny is real
01:57:00 <Ampera> it is
01:57:02 <Ampera> I have her in a cage
01:57:04 <Ampera> in the other room
01:57:08 <Ampera> her name is Zoey
01:57:32 <rust_collector> hmm, interesting name
01:57:40 <Ampera> I did not pick it
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01:57:57 <rust_collector> I figured, I said it was interesting
01:58:45 <Ampera> have been moving the websites for a person we host for
01:58:51 <Ampera> we told them that we would be moving it before 2PM
01:59:15 <Ampera> and then in the same chat, when we said their sites would be down for 30 minutes or so, they were upset wondering why it wasn't 2PM yet
01:59:23 <Ampera> because apparently they couldn't read any thought we were going to do it at 2PM
02:02:16 <rust_collector> sounds good
02:04:56 <rust_collector> text is not easy, these days
02:05:29 <rust_collector> maybe you should make a little powerpoint thing, and explain it to them, next time
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02:28:29 <Nothing\> damn reddit
02:28:49 <Nothing\> i spend an hour writing a reply somebody posted to one of my threads a while back
02:29:15 <Nothing\> then it waits until after i compose and try to post the reply to tell me i can't because the original thread is too old
02:29:29 <Nothing\> coulda told me that before i wastde my time lol
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03:13:04 <Nothing\> damn
03:13:14 <Nothing\> i can't find an option on my phone to broadcast to the TV anymore
03:13:20 <Nothing\> it was on my last phone
03:13:59 <Nothing\> my last phone's camera software also let me set things like exposure time but this one doesn't even have the option anymore
03:47:09 <DHess_US> <Nothing\> it looks like something out of a 50's sci-fi
03:47:19 <DHess_US> Still waiting for the form fitting elastic activity type suit.
03:47:29 <DHess_US> That will be even more like the 50s or 60s.
03:59:46 <rust_collector> space twiggy
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04:10:29 <Nothing\> lol DHess_US
04:10:52 <Nothing\> it just sounds like a spandex starfleet academy uniform
04:15:17 <DHess_US> That is pretty much what it is. Your skin can hold up to a vacuum. It is tough enough but has too much elasticity, and if exposed, sweating provides the needed cooling.
04:15:34 <DHess_US> Real space suits need active cooling; you don't freeze in space.
04:19:28 <DHess_US> So you need something like a wetsuit to apply pressure to the skin, but it should be porous to allow sweat through.
04:23:46 <Nothing\> active cooling so you don't freeze?
04:23:59 <Nothing\> lol i think something was lost in translation there between your brain and fingers
04:24:13 <Nothing\> i hate it when that happens
04:24:28 <rust_collector> uhm, try reading it again
04:25:16 <Nothing\> ah okay
04:25:49 <rust_collector> I would need my knitted socks in space
04:27:17 <DHess_US> Hollywood always shows people freezing when exposed to space. It doesn't work that way.
04:28:08 <rust_collector> but it makes sense. they probably do not want people floating around in space, having fun. so they make it seem like a bad thing
04:28:09 <DHess_US> At human body temperatures, heat is lost through convection and conduction, which are zero in space, and radiation only becomes significant at higher temperatures.
04:28:38 <DHess_US> So space suits have active cooling using a fluid like water.
04:28:53 <DHess_US> The inside is laced with tubes filled with water.
04:29:41 <DHess_US> If you skin is exposed, then evaporation will keep you cool.
04:32:26 <Nothing\> i wonderauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
04:35:58 <rust_collector> skin is too elastic? so... you would get wrinkles, if you spent too much time, naked in space?
04:38:02 <Nothing\> oh lol rust_collector
04:38:17 <Nothing\> have you heard that pfizer's rebranding their COVID vaccine-
04:38:37 <Nothing\> now they're calling it "cohmirnity"
04:39:18 <Nothing\> pronounced co-mur-nit-ee
04:39:34 <Nothing\> cuz people will remember that
04:41:09 <rust_collector> nope, but then again, I think I will get help, if I go ask for vaccine, lol
04:43:36 <DHess_US> <rust_collector> skin is too elastic? so... you would get wrinkles, if you spent too much time, naked in space?
04:43:41 <DHess_US> No, edema
04:44:04 <DHess_US> And of course you need compression across your chest to breath.
04:44:24 <Nothing\> DHess_US, which ironically is produced by a vacuum
04:44:32 <DHess_US> The area under the skin fills with fluid, like having a blister.
04:44:38 <Nothing\> or at least the expansion is
04:44:43 <rust_collector> the space porn industry will run into some issues, I think
04:44:52 <DHess_US> Yea, not enough leverage.
04:44:59 <Nothing\> i bet peolpe have already done it in space
04:45:10 <DHess_US> If so, nobody is admitting it.
04:45:36 <Nothing\> my worry would be somebody fapping and having a big glob of cum floating around the space station
04:45:48 <Nothing\> until it ends up in a vent and clogs it
04:45:56 <Nothing\> then 3 days later they notice an unholy smell
04:47:37 <Nothing\> man i've got this sodium acetate i've been trying to dry for like a week now
04:48:10 <Nothing\> it's taking so long though cuz it has the consistency of paste. So only the very outside layer is drying out
04:50:21 <rust_collector> spread it out, until it is just a thin layer? maybe on glass or something? what are you going to use that for anyway?
04:57:26 <Nothing\> yeah that's what i was thinking
04:57:43 <rust_collector> throw it on the window?
04:58:06 <Nothing\> right now it's just in a rather glass about 1.25in high and 3in in diameter give or take
05:02:51 <Nothing\> lol the battery on my exercise bike leaked and corroded the 2x AA holder. So I desoldered it, intending to put the other 2x AA holder I have here.
05:03:33 <Nothing\> and for some reason the batteries in that leaked, too
05:04:28 <Nothing\> even though they were ogood, duracell ones
05:05:41 <rust_collector> I think you are the last nerdy person left in the world, that is saying duracell is good
05:07:58 <rust_collector> there is that duracell industrial, or professional, or something like that, But I am not sure if they are much different, or not. I have only had one of those.
05:27:23 <DHess_US> Lol, https://portwell.com/products/detail.php?CUSTCHAR1=PEB-9783G2AR
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11:09:07 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:09:35 <MrMobodies> Anyone suffers from vision problems?
11:12:28 <DHess_US> I'm been nearsighted for decades, and now my eyes are old also.
11:12:58 <rust_collector> problems... well, I don't see as good as I used to, lol
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11:16:20 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va4KhD3WemQ
11:16:21 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: A video about how after images/palinopsia looks like.
11:18:33 <MrMobodies> if I move my hand and there is light on it and the background is dark
11:18:46 <DHess_US> The nice thing about being nearsighted when you get old is that you can read *without* your glasses.
11:18:47 <MrMobodies> I'd see another edge of the hand (bright bits) behind it
11:19:07 <MrMobodies> do you think I got CJD or some kind of brain tumor?
11:19:22 <MrMobodies> it is not hallucinary but illusionary
11:19:53 <MrMobodies> https://files.list.co.uk/images/p/palinopsiagraphicweb.jpg
11:19:57 <MrMobodies> but it is by contrast
11:20:01 <MrMobodies> difference
11:20:11 <MrMobodies> and the shiny bits are blue in colour
11:20:25 <MrMobodies> I was at the pub DJ and they had these led lights that change colour
11:20:39 <MrMobodies> when I look rapidly away with my eyes how shake my head
11:20:45 <MrMobodies> Id see a line of the led
11:20:50 <MrMobodies> with all different colours
11:21:35 <MrMobodies> like light blue = Green------red--green------red------green for a split second
11:21:51 <MrMobodies> does anyone hear have that problem and do you think it might be serious?
11:21:59 <MrMobodies> I reported it in 2019 before I moved
11:22:11 <MrMobodies> I was suppose to see a specialist but Covid came
11:22:19 <MrMobodies> and the lockdown happen now it is progressing a bit
11:22:30 <MrMobodies> Do you think I have anything to worry about?
11:22:55 <rust_collector> no, but you shoudl probably have someone look at it, it you are worried about it
11:27:47 <MrMobodies> I had 8 blood tests in 2019 when I saw my gp
11:27:52 <MrMobodies> oh 9 sorry
11:28:24 <MrMobodies> and I wonder whether that would included diseases such as tuberculosis
11:28:28 <MrMobodies> they found nothing
11:29:01 <MrMobodies> I wonder is it because I stare at a screen all the time
11:29:13 <MrMobodies> or at screens and they are very dim but still
11:30:03 <MrMobodies> what is strange thought I am able to see well in the dark
11:30:07 <MrMobodies> like on my way home
11:30:31 <MrMobodies> I could even see the potholes without any light through the private driveway where there are no street lights
11:30:41 <MrMobodies> but not vision artifacts there
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11:48:07 <MrMobodies> Oh yes I did but the blood test was apart of it
11:48:12 <MrMobodies> for blood poisoning
11:48:23 <MrMobodies> I had a specialist who ran some other tests on my eye
11:48:27 <MrMobodies> and no problems
11:48:31 <MrMobodies> so I was due for a brain scan
11:54:43 <Ampera> Hello, MrMobodies
11:54:44 <EEVBot> Hello, Ampera!
11:54:48 <Ampera> How are you doing
11:56:49 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:56:59 <MrMobodies> I was at the Local pub on their karoke thing
11:57:04 <Ampera> nice
11:57:10 <MrMobodies> I thought the speaker they used this time was mono but it wasn't
11:57:12 <Ampera> I just got back from meeting a relative I had never met before
11:57:14 <MrMobodies> they have speakers on the sides
11:57:17 <Ampera> was at their place for 7 hours, excellent people
11:57:24 <MrMobodies> that's nice
11:57:33 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/KuyRL2Y.jpg
11:57:43 <MrMobodies> they loved the sound quality
11:57:44 <Ampera> oh that's really cool
11:57:52 <Ampera> presumably that's not you
11:57:55 <MrMobodies> I told them it is the SRS3D effect from the sound card
11:57:56 <MrMobodies> nope
11:58:03 <MrMobodies> that's Wwayne the bar owner
11:58:14 <Ampera> hah
11:58:51 <MrMobodies> when the karaoke stopped for a bit he switched it to his iphone, vis bluetooth on the spaker there
11:58:54 <MrMobodies> and it sounded horrible
11:59:10 <MrMobodies> so I'll buy him a bluetooth dac so it can be connected to the sound card dac
11:59:25 <MrMobodies> everyone was noticing how tinny it was when he switched it over
11:59:45 <MrMobodies> but everything is fixable especially for that
12:00:06 <MrMobodies> there was an issue with the WIFI very weak in that part of the building
12:00:38 <MrMobodies> I thought it was the wifi link from the secondary module to the Draytek router doing the belkin USB hub to the usb sound card
12:00:59 <MrMobodies> there were folks who loved it so much they decided to sing with the microphone
12:01:08 <MrMobodies> nice to keep people happy
12:01:27 <MrMobodies> I rarely meet my relatives
12:01:38 <MrMobodies> the last time i saw them was in 2008 when they came over from Canada
12:01:50 <Ampera> Really cool stuff you're doing, I wish I had people like that to set up gear for
12:01:59 <Ampera> Most of my relatives live in Connecticut, Maine, or Germane
12:02:01 <Ampera> er, Germany
12:02:13 <Ampera> This one just happened to live in NY for the last 20 years, and we only just now got around to meeting each other
12:02:20 <MrMobodies> ooh Germany
12:02:39 <Ampera> indeed, I'm half German
12:02:41 <Ampera> have citizenship too
12:03:11 <MrMobodies> that's nice, I think of Germans as being perfect with the things they do and design
12:03:19 <Ampera> hahahaha
12:03:23 <rust_collector> lol
12:03:23 <MrMobodies> Audi, Sebo Hoovers
12:03:32 <MrMobodies> Graef kettles Kasserwocher things
12:03:34 <rust_collector> double lol
12:03:57 <MrMobodies> tey blow steam out at 90 degress not up the cabinet like many british keetles do
12:04:00 <Ampera> Idk, I mostly see Germany as a home I never lived in
12:04:38 <MrMobodies> oooh Battery chargers, Conrad Charge manager
12:04:46 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846178000722853898/886732524968108062/20210912_175819.jpg
12:04:49 <MrMobodies> That was built and came from Germany
12:04:51 <Ampera> I bought a new kettle recently
12:04:52 <Ampera> it's blue
12:05:02 <Ampera> our kettles suck though
12:05:06 <Ampera> this is only a 1100W kettle
12:05:24 <MrMobodies> glass kettle
12:05:29 <MrMobodies> looks good
12:05:36 <Ampera> I think it was 5 bucks more than the full plastic one
12:05:43 <Ampera> it makes tea just fine
12:05:46 <MrMobodies> oooh it's for tea
12:05:51 <Ampera> btw, I need to send you some of our tea
12:05:55 <MrMobodies> put the teat in the centre thng
12:05:56 <Ampera> aye, I drink it quite frequently
12:06:02 <Ampera> You can, though I don't use it for that yet
12:06:03 <MrMobodies> okay
12:06:05 <Ampera> most of my tea is in bags
12:06:26 <Ampera> this photo I took when I was running it for the first time, so I just wanted the infuser in there to get boiled
12:06:36 <Ampera> you wouldn't put it in there until after you've boiled the water
12:06:55 <MrMobodies> it's looks nicely built
12:07:05 <Ampera> It is actually quite nice
12:07:15 <Ampera> at least until it goes on the floor, shatters, and gets glass everywhere
12:07:42 <MrMobodies> I once had a Brita filter that was glass I took it to work fell over and that smashed
12:07:59 <MrMobodies> I fell over a pothole and they stopped making them glass
12:08:28 <MrMobodies> Shiny toaster too
12:09:31 <MrMobodies> oh and the leds are not too bright
12:09:42 <MrMobodies> I have seen some of them are so bright they could light up a whole room
12:09:50 <MrMobodies> I like the blue illumination
12:10:09 <MrMobodies> and you could get your hand in their to clean it easily
12:12:28 <Ampera> Aye, it's a decent kettle
12:12:31 <Ampera> quite big, 1.8L
12:12:48 <MrMobodies> bigger than mine
12:13:01 <MrMobodies> but a lot of tea from that
12:14:08 <Ampera> I usually make right around 500ml of tea in the morning
12:14:11 <MrMobodies> bet that would give you a lovely tea scent when that is going.
12:14:20 <Ampera> oh I don't doubt it
12:14:25 <Ampera> though most of my loose leaf tea is fairly plain
12:14:27 <MrMobodies> oh sorry if the was in there oops
12:14:47 <Ampera> No I didn't say that, I just meant to say I don't make that much tea in one go
12:14:53 <Ampera> I'd probably be pissing like a racehorse
12:15:14 <MrMobodies> you have coffee too?
12:15:51 <MrMobodies> actually I am feeling a bit ill... I have too much sparkling water with lemon a couple of coffee's and i went to toilet quite a bit
12:16:17 <MrMobodies> maybe too much acid
12:16:44 <Ampera> Coffee makes me nauseous
12:16:49 <Ampera> so that's why I prefer tea
12:16:51 <MrMobodies> oh it was someone's birthday but the brought in a cake there
12:16:52 <MrMobodies> oooh
12:17:11 <MrMobodies> "affected with nausea; feeling inclined to vomit."
12:17:34 <MrMobodies> i think Dave Jones said he didn't like coffee too
12:17:48 <MrMobodies> when he found that coffee machine and did a teardown on it some years ago
12:18:08 <MrMobodies> and someone told me it can be quite bad in large amounts
12:18:13 <MrMobodies> so I have to be a bit careful
12:18:17 <MrMobodies> not to drink too much
12:18:26 <MrMobodies> they were teaching me how to dance
12:18:44 <MrMobodies> like they wanted me to dance with them and I didn't know nothing about dancing
12:18:57 <MrMobodies> I was just there to listen to the sound cards and adjust them
12:19:05 <MrMobodies> it's my obsession and hobby
12:19:18 <MrMobodies> but very nice people there
12:19:32 <MrMobodies> and served us all with a bit of cake made by a local
12:19:43 <MrMobodies> for someone's birthday
12:19:51 <MrMobodies> he is plumber and just turned 50
12:20:28 <Ampera> I love black teas
12:20:29 <Ampera> all sorts of blends
12:20:49 <Ampera> earl grey, english breakfast, some nice ones I have with peach, chai, and orange spice flavorings
12:22:07 <MrMobodies> what about spicy tea what's the name... Lapsung?
12:22:25 <MrMobodies> https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/special-offers-300376-44/twinings-lapsang-souchong-tea-50s-125g
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12:23:14 <Ampera> Never had that
12:23:22 <Ampera> Is it black tea?
12:23:30 <MrMobodies> it's a bit like wood smell
12:23:32 <MrMobodies> yes
12:23:37 <MrMobodies> without the milk
12:23:37 <Ampera> smoked black tea it says
12:23:40 <Ampera> that'd be interesting
12:23:54 <Ampera> I actually have a package of Twining's english breakfast which I had once, and liked
12:24:04 <Ampera> it was a bit of an unfair test of it though, as I used maple syrup to sweeten, and I used a bit too much
12:24:08 <Ampera> so it tasted mostly of maple
12:24:18 <Ampera> so I should try it again with my standard honey
12:24:40 <MrMobodies> when I get it next I'll send some over for you
12:25:15 <Ampera> Oh that'd be appreciated. I can also go to a local store which has a lot of brands of tea and send you some stuff
12:25:29 <Ampera> They have tons of tea made by Stash, and they have some very good flavors
12:25:38 <Ampera> jspiros in the other channel is a good fan of theirs too
12:25:48 <Ampera> Do you tend to prefer black, green, or herbal teas?
12:25:51 <Ampera> or are you good with most things
12:26:01 <MrMobodies> more herbal
12:26:08 <MrMobodies> and spicy
12:27:38 <Ampera> interesting
12:27:53 <Ampera> Spicy as in spiced, or actually spicy?
12:28:01 <MrMobodies> both
12:28:06 <Ampera> alright, I can work with that
12:28:20 <Ampera> I'll assemble a package. Anything else you might want from here, or should I just give you some goodies?
12:30:31 <MrMobodies> oh thanks
12:58:11 <MrMobodies> I forgot I had kebab earlier
12:58:39 <MrMobodies> with the lots sparkling water with lemon and some coffee's
12:58:48 <MrMobodies> I think I upset my stomach a bit
12:59:07 <MrMobodies> had a bit of milk to try and neutralize it a bit
12:59:33 <MrMobodies> I don't feel right and uncomofortable feeling with my stomach
13:13:55 * Halcyon spices up Ampera
13:14:02 * Ampera licks Halcyon
13:14:03 <Ampera> mmm
13:14:08 <Ampera> tastes like cute cancer
13:17:07 <Halcyon> You're weird
13:17:25 <Halcyon> I'm creating a new recipe
13:17:29 <Halcyon> But you won't like is Ampera
13:17:32 <Halcyon> *it
13:17:39 <Ampera> does it involve racism?
13:17:49 <Halcyon> Vegetables
13:22:02 <Ampera> but you're a vegetable and I like you
13:22:31 <Halcyon> I'm the only one
13:22:58 <Ampera> you're right, the only other one I can think of is our president, and I'm not a huge fan of him I must say
13:23:17 <Halcyon> Yeh so I know you're not interested but you can listen to me anyway...
13:24:06 <Halcyon> I'm deconstructing an off-the-shelf product which I found really tasty, but I'm not paying $3 for what is essentially a small pot of cauliflower, zucchini, capsicum, corn, onion, beans and quinoa.
13:24:18 <Halcyon> When I can just make a big batch myself out of said ingredients.
13:25:53 <Halcyon> Oh and there is white wine vinegar in it too, which makes it nummy
13:32:19 <Ampera> I am currently mass deleting files on a wiki
13:32:33 <Ampera> well, mass deleting pages, because to delete files on a wiki, you must delete the page
13:32:39 <Halcyon> Right
13:33:04 <Ampera> some fucking genius who started a spongebob wiki we are now tasked with hosting decided to create gallery pages containing 200 images from each episode of spongebob
13:33:08 <Ampera> big fat PNG images too
13:33:17 <Halcyon> \o/
13:33:26 <Ampera> despite having only 300 articles, it's 20GB larger than our largest wiki which has thousands
13:33:48 <Ampera> so after having told them to knock it the fuck off, I'm starting work on deleting all these gallery images
13:33:52 <Ampera> and there are /thousands/
13:33:59 <Ampera> mediawiki has a batch delete script, but it seems pretty slow
13:34:16 <Ampera> it's also a big effort to simply construct the list of pages for it to delete in the first place
13:35:12 * Halcyon pokes Ampera multiple times in the shoulder without saying anything... just because...
13:35:25 * Ampera kisses Halcyon like the slut he is
13:35:42 <Halcyon> \o
13:35:49 <Halcyon> Dammit, I'm missing an arm
13:35:53 <Halcyon> But YAY nonetheless
13:36:02 <Ampera> do you drink tea?
13:36:06 <Halcyon> I do drink tea
13:36:12 <Ampera> do you do it much?
13:36:27 <Ampera> as I could put together a package for you while I'm doing it to mobodies
13:36:31 <Ampera> *to -> for
13:36:34 <Halcyon> Yeh I mostly have it at work. Maybe 1 or 2 a day when I'm in the office
13:36:37 <Ampera> idk if you guys have stash brand there
13:36:39 <Halcyon> Otherwise at home, I don't generally
13:36:40 <Ampera> it's my favorite
13:36:49 <Halcyon> Stash? No, never heard of it.
13:36:57 <Halcyon> Although like my coffee, I'm a bit of a tea snob.
13:36:58 <Ampera> It's a US brand, but they have nice varieties
13:37:08 <Halcyon> I buy the full leaf stuff if it's black tea
13:37:13 <Ampera> I'd be getting you teabags as opposed to loose leaf
13:37:23 <Ampera> as that's what stash makes
13:37:35 <Halcyon> I'm googling
13:37:48 <Ampera> They have good blends, and I'm perfectly happy with the quality of their tea
13:37:57 <Halcyon> Mmm looks nice, lots of delicious flavours
13:38:01 <Ampera> indeed
13:38:09 <Ampera> my local store has most of them, so if you have specific requests
13:38:19 <Ampera> my favorite is double bergamot earl grey
13:38:31 <Halcyon> I do like peach
13:38:38 <Halcyon> Any citrus fruit I like
13:38:58 <Halcyon> Not a big fan of the sweeter stuff like vanilla
13:39:01 <Ampera> their peach black tea is delicious
13:39:15 <Ampera> orange spice is also delicious, so is their chai spice (both black teas)
13:39:19 <Halcyon> Mango passionfruit sounds amazing
13:39:27 <Ampera> I haven't had much of their herbal or green teas, but I do have a bunch
13:39:42 <Ampera> I've mostly been sticking to black tea, as I prefer to have it with milk and sweetner
13:39:51 <Halcyon> I'm easy. Basically if it's any kind of berry, stonefruit, melon or citrus, I'll like it
13:39:55 <Ampera> and people look at you weird if you try that with green tea
13:40:06 <Ampera> you'll like basically everything they make then
13:40:22 <Ampera> I have yet to have a tea of theirs I didn't like
13:40:41 <Halcyon> Probably. As I said, I generally don't like things like vanilla or lavender in tea
13:40:59 <Halcyon> Or Dandelion
13:41:04 <Ampera> I don't even think I have any of those, but I'll make sure not to get you any of that
13:41:06 <Ampera> if they have any
13:41:16 <Halcyon> :D
13:41:21 <Ampera> Next time I'm at that store I'll buy them out of tea
13:41:22 <Ampera> :P
13:41:24 <Halcyon> That would be very sweet of you to send me something
13:41:37 <Ampera> I enjoy doing it
13:41:48 <Ampera> right up until I go to ship it and see how much the USPS charges for international shipping q.q
13:41:56 <Ampera> but I'll do it anyways, because I love you and hate money
13:42:03 <Halcyon> I'll have to return the favour. There are some chips (crisps) and crackers which they have just brought back from the 1990's
13:42:09 <Halcyon> They taste exactly as they did back then
13:43:37 <Halcyon> Tasty Toobs are like this weird tomato-y, spicy kind of snack. But they apparently will only be available for 6 months
13:44:45 <Ampera> interesting
16:00:29 <Halcyon> I had a little nap
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22:08:39 <Nothing\> mmmm corned beef hash
22:08:47 <Nothing\> never had it before but i'm an instant fan
22:09:21 <Nothing\> it reminds me sort of of the filling in a stuffed pepper or cabbage roll, minus the rice
22:11:21 <Nothing\> and MUCH more salt
22:11:39 <Nothing\> not the best food to eat when you're dehydrated lol
22:16:02 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/zLtc1DY.jpg
22:17:11 <Nothing\> hey T3sl4
22:17:16 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
22:17:24 * Nothing\ power hugs T3sl4 <3
22:17:37 <Nothing\> how are you, buddy?
22:17:43 <T3sl4> good
22:17:51 <Nothing\> good to hear
22:18:23 <Nothing\> speaking of which i should take my meds
22:18:31 <Nothing\> else i won't be feeling very good much longer
22:18:40 * steve30 is unstuffing stuff on the G5
22:19:10 <Nothing\> heya steveo
22:19:30 <Nothing\> G5, that some sort of mobile device?
22:19:37 <Nothing\> oh holy crap
22:19:43 <steve30> a PowerPC processor
22:19:43 <Nothing\> there's a lady bug on my salt
22:19:50 <Nothing\> this won't do at all
22:20:13 <Nothing\> can't have transexual beetles trying to steal my salt
22:21:27 <Nothing\> lol i tried to catch it in a tissue and throw it outside to fly away gracefully, but it just fell to the ground like a rock. And made a similar sound.
22:22:38 <Nothing\> you guys ever see that old video where it's this kid at some sort of ceremony, a funeral or something, and him and a bunch of other kids are holding white doves to be released at a certain cue. The cue comes and the kid proudly throws his dove up into the air.
22:23:12 <Nothing\> Then its lifeless body immediately plummets back to the ground and lies there in a pathetic, crushed heap.
22:23:44 <Nothing\> the kid was so nervous he crushed the damn thing to death.
22:24:04 <T3sl4> aaaaaand childhood trauma
22:24:31 <Nothing\> T3sl4, for most kids yeah, but if it were my brother or me we'd have just laughed about it.
22:25:22 <Nothing\> like when i was maybe 3 and he was 8 we had these goldfish who decided to cannabilize each other
22:25:59 <Nothing\> after several days of waking up to find fish guts floating in the bowl and one less fish, there were two left
22:26:07 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/70I8Jht
22:26:08 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
22:26:11 <Nothing\> when we woke up, there was half a fish left, the head bit
22:26:16 <Nothing\> and it was still happily alive
22:26:27 <Nothing\> though it died a few days later
22:26:58 <Nothing\> it just reminds me of all of these videos i've been seeing lately about fish with catastrophic injuries who don't seem the wiser or seem to care about them.
22:27:23 <Nothing\> like a mahi mahi with a gigantic bite taken out of its back like it was a big cookie
22:27:44 <T3sl4> they may have reduced affect or something
22:28:08 <Nothing\> lol T3sl4 is that from majora's mask?
22:28:13 <T3sl4> ya
22:28:21 <Nothing\> ah, i never played that one sadly
22:28:36 <Nothing\> it's one of a few LoZ games i haven't
22:28:57 <T3sl4> it's pretty good, i'm sure you'd like the dark themes
22:29:15 <Nothing\> and frankly after breath of the wild, whenever i consider playing another 3D zelda game I just think "why bother? I have Breath of the Wild?"
22:29:25 <T3sl4> fair lol
22:29:36 <Nothing\> yeah but the 3 day time limit seems like it would make me feel rushed
22:30:01 <T3sl4> you'll get crushed by the moon once or twice yeah
22:30:07 <Nothing\> like i remember i didn't like fallout 2 because there was some time limit on the overall game. Or at least the main mission. I forget what exactly, it's been years since I've played it.
22:30:09 <Nothing\> decades even
22:30:26 <Nothing\> oh, so you can keep playing after the 3 day limit is up?
22:31:00 <T3sl4> the first progress is getting something to recycle it groundhog day style
22:31:22 <Nothing\> ah
22:32:05 <T3sl4> you can do almost everything in one cycle, though there's a few exclusive quests, and so many you need to be a damn good speedrunner to finish all of it
22:32:17 <Nothing\> Huh
22:32:31 <Nothing\> didn't they remake it for the 3DS like Ocarina of Time?
22:32:36 <T3sl4> the speedrun is a bit under 5hr
22:32:38 <Nothing\> Or did they bother?
22:32:38 <T3sl4> yes
22:32:43 <Nothing\> oh nice
22:33:01 <Nothing\> actually i need a new 3DS. The shoulder buttons are crapping out on me :/
22:33:28 <Nothing\> And looking up videos on how to fix shoulder button problems. You basically have to take the whole unit apart to access the mechanism.
22:33:44 <T3sl4> sounds about right
22:33:58 <Nothing\> Plus I've been wanting to get a 3DS XL or something with a bigger screen and a C pad
22:34:36 <Nothing\> i'm glad they abandoned the clamshell design with the switch
22:34:48 <T3sl4> wii u technically
22:35:01 <Nothing\> oh yeah, that lol
22:35:13 <Nothing\> i'm sure i can be forgiven for forgetting the wii u existed
22:35:21 <T3sl4> it's forgettable
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22:35:37 * Nothing\ looks at the copy of new super mario bros wii u on his desk
22:35:52 <Nothing\> for switch, of course
22:36:33 <Nothing\> weird
22:36:57 <Nothing\> apparently a lot of canadian politicians and law enforcement agencies are considering decriminalizing drugs all together
22:37:04 <Nothing\> not legalizing, just decriminalizing
22:37:44 <Nothing\> meanwhile other agencies are setting up sting operations outside of safe injection sites
22:38:32 <Nothing\> man has the world always been this messed up
22:38:37 <Nothing\> or is this a recent thing
22:38:51 <T3sl4> worse
22:38:52 <Nothing\> or is it just being reported on and caught on camera more frequently?
22:39:02 <T3sl4> but it's been getting better, slowly but surely
22:39:22 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i dunno, we've got a housing bubble here that's just ready to burst
22:39:39 <Nothing\> like the average price of a house in canada right now is $780,000
22:39:51 <Nothing\> north of $1 million for a place like toronto or vancouver
22:40:03 <Nothing\> and that's just for a regular, middle class house
22:40:17 <Nothing\> something that used to be less than $200k before 2000
22:40:46 <Nothing\> although mortgage rates are lower than ever at 5-6%
22:41:16 <Nothing\> i think my parents paid 20% on theirs but that was 35 years ago
22:41:27 <T3sl4> never underestimate neoliberals' talent for draining every single thin cent from everything that is good and just in the world
22:41:50 <Nothing\> but the problem is all of these foreign entities are buying up properties here and driving up the prices
22:42:00 <Nothing\> while homeless rates have never been higher
22:42:36 <Nothing\> it's funny, I remember taking a class trip to toronto in grade 8 in 1998 to see phantom of the opera
22:43:04 <Nothing\> we saw a homeless guy on the street and thought it was such an amusing novelty, we all had to give him a buck just so we could say we did.
22:43:28 <Nothing\> fastforward to present times and tent cities are a normal site around here now
22:43:43 <Nothing\> basically shanty towns of homeless people living in tents
22:43:50 <T3sl4> ya
22:44:09 <Nothing\> we had one with almost 100 people a couple of years ago until the property owner flipped his shit and torched it
22:44:14 <Nothing\> right before winter
22:44:40 <Nothing\> the city had nowhere to put them so they had to quickly cobble together this piece of shit center out of the old police station
22:44:57 <Nothing\> the gist of it was you could sleep there, but you had to be gone from 8am to something like 5pm
22:45:15 <Nothing\> some shelter
22:45:37 <Nothing\> meanwhile people didn't want to leave cuz they had their stuff there and it'd get stolen if they just left it there
22:46:18 <Nothing\> and you drive by places like the salvation army shelter now and there are always like 10-20 people out front
22:46:27 <Nothing\> people in the parks pushing their carts
22:47:08 <Nothing\> cuz welfare here only pays about $600 but rent prices start at about $800 for your most basic, shittiest single room bachelor apartment
22:48:31 <Nothing\> i couldn't even get one being on disability and getting $1200 because the landlords 1. don't trust people on social services because of the stigma and 2. figure if you're spending 2/3 of your money on rent, you're inevitably going to end up needing some of that money for some other bill and will eventually stiff them so they'd rather not risk it
22:50:26 <Nothing\> i went to this government run housing agency here for help cuz i was close to being homeless because of this and all they told me was to take one of the housing listings they had out front, which just had regular listings that i'd been going through anyways. The stuff that's like $800 for a piece of shit and at least $1400 for something livable. When I told her disability wouldn't afford me such costly apartments
22:50:26 <Nothing\> back once I'm in a shelter.
22:50:50 <Nothing\> I told her that was exactly what I was trying to avoid. Then asked wtf she's being paid for and walked out.
22:50:52 <T3sl4> great
22:51:22 <Nothing\> in retrospect i shoulda written my MP but i was just so despondent and kicked down
22:52:32 <Nothing\> i was lucky though, my mom wound up leaving her ex. And being a pensioner, she was in the same boat. So we just split the rent on a 3 bedroom townhouse that's somehow only $1400
22:53:24 <Nothing\> well, really I pay most of the rent and she does bills and food
22:53:33 <Nothing\> it worked out perfect
22:54:00 <T3sl4> lucky
22:54:05 <Nothing\> oh i know
22:54:15 <T3sl4> alas, obviously many others not so much
22:54:34 <Nothing\> it's funny cuz, I think it was the mayor of montreal was saying not long ago that rent prices are about $500 for a middle class apartment
22:54:40 <Nothing\> that pissed off a LOT of people
22:54:48 <Nothing\> cuz rent's not much better there than in toronto
22:55:15 <T3sl4> never underestimate the aristocracy's ignorance of the commoner either
22:55:49 <Nothing\> i know, right? I never had any idea somebody could be so ignorant of something that's common sense to millions upon millions of people
22:56:18 <Nothing\> how can you be so cut off from the rest of the people like some sort of member of nobility or a monarchy
22:56:29 <T3sl4> because they are
22:56:32 <T3sl4> not so formal, but they are
22:56:45 <Nothing\> yeah i guess i just didn't realize that
22:56:51 <Nothing\> it's depressing
22:57:28 <T3sl4> the sooner we realize our actual place in society, the sooner we can actually start to change it
22:57:59 <Nothing\> especially when you consider with jeff bezos' $200 billion, he could give 2/3 of americans $100,000
22:58:12 <Nothing\> (kidding)
22:58:30 <Nothing\> there was a thing in the news a few months ago where people on twitter were saying something like that
22:58:37 <T3sl4> i remember
22:58:42 <Nothing\> there ya go lol
22:59:10 <Nothing\> still, even if most americans got $100,000. They wouldn't know what to do with it.
22:59:55 <Nothing\> They'd piss it away in a month because to them it'd be like they just won the lottery and came into an endless supply of money. From a subconscious point of view, I mean.
23:00:43 <Nothing\> They just don't have the experience to comprehend the real life implications of what $100,000 and how far it can realistically go
23:01:00 <Nothing\> unless they're smart and hire (and listen to) a financial advisor
23:01:28 <T3sl4> financial education would go far
23:01:31 <T3sl4> civic too
23:01:46 <Nothing\> indeed
23:02:05 <Nothing\> i'm actually considering getting a robinhood account and doing some light trading
23:02:26 <Nothing\> no futures or anything risky, but I just feel like I'm missing out on something here.
23:02:50 <Nothing\> Not so much the Reddit type stuff. But real financial stuff.
23:03:31 <Nothing\> For one, there are all of these cannabis based companies popping up all over the place that I see doing so well. It seems like it'd be a goldmine if you could figure out which ones are keepers.
23:04:23 <Nothing\> Or investing in Sony just before the PS5 comes out. That's a no-brainer
23:06:17 <Nothing\> I wonder if I could watch CSPAN online or something like it
23:06:23 <T3sl4> yes
23:06:29 <Nothing\> nice
23:06:32 <T3sl4> unless they country restrict it, in which case vpn
23:06:37 <Nothing\> aye
23:06:46 <Nothing\> i think that'd be a good start
23:06:50 <Ampera> good morning
23:06:55 <Ampera> how are you T3sl4
23:06:59 <T3sl4> bad morning, Ampera's here
23:07:04 <Ampera> lol
23:07:11 <T3sl4> <3
23:07:40 <Ampera> just woke up
23:07:41 <Ampera> sorta
23:07:50 <Ampera> am actually still in bed
23:07:53 * T3sl4 brews Ampera a coffee
23:08:08 * Ampera magically transmutes it into tea
23:08:40 * Ampera bakes some cinnamon rolls and shares them with T3sl4
23:08:52 * T3sl4 ices all over Ampera's face
23:09:20 <Ampera> you're beyond a square
23:09:27 <Ampera> you're a cube
23:09:42 <T3sl4> i'm neither on the square nor the level
23:09:46 <Nothing\> heh i'm still waiting for my mum to get up so i can go to tim hortons and get an iced cappuccino
23:09:56 <Nothing\> unfortunately nothing's within walking distance from here
23:10:08 <T3sl4> Nothing\ is within walking distance of Nothing\
23:10:18 <Nothing\> i thought she got up. She was up, made a coffee. Then she disappeared and that was half an hour ago.
23:10:23 * Nothing\ hears a toilet flush
23:10:26 <Nothing\> OHHHHHH
23:11:03 <Nothing\> T3sl4, Nothing\'s gonna change my world
23:11:19 <Nothing\> jai guru deva ommmmmmm
23:11:46 <Nothing\> i really need to get into buddhism more
23:12:49 * T3sl4 shrugs
23:12:54 <Nothing\> heh i noticed the other day my pharmacist's name is Gautama. So I asked if he was named after the Buddha. His face lit up and he was so happy. He said most people think he's named after some God, but I didn't catch the name.
23:13:17 <T3sl4> nice
23:14:52 <Nothing\> i was tempted to speak hindi to him, but i'm always reluctant to speak hindi to someone who looks indian because there are so many people who look indian but aren't, or people who are indians, but don't speak hindi. And I would imagine being a Buddhist, he's probabyl less likely to speak hindi
23:15:14 <Nothing\> i'm even reluctant to use a hindi greeting in fear they may be muslim
23:15:36 <T3sl4> do you just know a few words or actually conversant
23:15:40 <Nothing\> sikhs have their own greeting too, but they're dead easy to spot. With their bangles and turbans and what not.
23:16:58 <Nothing\> just a few phrases I picked up watching a channel called "bald and bankrupt" where an englishman travels to various places. The biggest series he has are India and Soviet bloc countries. So I picked up a lot of phrases in hindi and russian from both.
23:17:10 <T3sl4> ah
23:17:30 <Nothing\> basically any time he said something I could hear well enough to repeat, I'd say it into Google translate and translate it into english
23:17:44 <steve30> I spoke to a muslim yesterday at a 'Truth About Islam Project' stall
23:18:11 <Nothing\> but a lot of his hindi was poorly pronounced so i only caught a few phrases. And I'm not confident at all of my pronunciation or the meaning.
23:18:26 <T3sl4> if anyone, from any religion, has to tell you the "truth" about their religion, run
23:18:46 <Ampera> the truth about most religions is they are self replicating mental pathogens
23:18:48 <Nothing\> like "phear melenge" means "good bye" but I don't know if it's pronounced "peer" or "feer"
23:19:11 <steve30> https://flickr.com/photos/36651585@N04/51490833949/in/dateposted-public/
23:19:12 <EEVBot> [Title] - Truth About Islam Project | Muslims distributing leaflets ab… | Flickr
23:19:20 <Nothing\> and then, mil-en-ghey"
23:19:21 <Ampera> they use threats and promises to entice a belief to spread, and without any real maintenance, that idea manages to propagate
23:19:55 <Nothing\> or there are phrases i know but don't know the meaning of, like "jai boli ki"
23:20:02 <Ampera> I wonder how much someone would have to pay me, for me to go up and ask him, "Yeah so Allah's great and all, but do you got any other gods I can worship?"
23:20:03 <Nothing\> or "jai hind"
23:20:24 <Nothing\> i know hind has something to do with india, since in indian the country is called hindustan
23:22:03 <Nothing\> it sucks cuz i had an indian friend who spoke hindi at one point, but wasn't interested in it at the time
23:22:08 <T3sl4> "wayne jetski", wow, why haven't i heard that nickname before
23:22:21 <Nothing\> T3sl4, lol that's awesome
23:22:33 <Nothing\> i live where he was born so i'm totally gonna troll some locals with that
23:22:45 <Nothing\> his dad walter actually died a few months ago :/
23:22:55 <Nothing\> was a shame cuz he was a huge pillar in the community
23:23:05 <Nothing\> him and his wife were, who died a few years ago
23:23:11 <T3sl4> aw
23:23:33 <Nothing\> but his house isn't too far from here so i walk past it every time i go to the mall
23:23:51 <Nothing\> phil hartman lived here, too. I've been meaning to visit his house at some point.
23:24:11 <Nothing\> I know where it is. It's just on the other side of the city that I don't go to often.
23:24:47 <Nothing\> i found an interesting youtube video that talked about his old stomping grounds. But for some reason it never gave any addresses or locations.
23:25:03 <Nothing\> I had to get the address off of a memorial plaque they have for him downtown.
23:25:43 <Nothing\> actually, alexander graham bell lived here, too
23:26:05 <Nothing\> even invented the phone and made the first call from here to nearby Paris, Ontario
23:26:26 <Nothing\> or maybe it was the frist long distance call
23:26:38 <Nothing\> cuz i couldn't imagine him summoning watson from another city lol
23:26:59 <Nothing\> "Watson, I know you're 8km away, but come'ere a minute"
23:28:10 <Nothing\> they turned his homestead into a museum which I've been wanting to hit up for some time but haven't been able to due to covid. Hopefully once I get my second shot and my vaccine passport I can do that.
23:28:33 <Nothing\> And there's a military aircraft museum not far from here I'd be a fool not to go to
23:29:03 <Nothing\> and one of these days I'm gonna make it out to the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto
23:29:15 <Ampera> going apple picking today
23:29:23 <Nothing\> oddly enough, called the ROM
23:29:28 <Ampera> need to now figure out what I'm going to do with the entirely too many apples I will obviously buy
23:31:35 <T3sl4> Ampera: nice, i've been checking out the local apples in the park here from time to time
23:32:07 <Ampera> this is a big orchard with a nice selection
23:32:12 <T3sl4> they're rather dingy being unmaintained, small fruit usually deformed and wormy, but you can find some lucky ones
23:32:14 <Ampera> while we haven't gone every year, we go most years
23:32:25 <T3sl4> found one the other day that was sweet like candy :P
23:32:39 <Nothing\> back where I used to live, tehre were lots of berry bushes around. So any time I went for a walk in the Summer, I'd stop and eat as many berries as I could as a way of rehydrating
23:33:05 <Ampera> T3sl4, nothing like fresh fruit
23:33:08 <T3sl4> i probably ate a pound of black raspberry this summer
23:33:34 <Nothing\> heh when i was little it wasn't uncommon for me to eat so many strawberries i'd make myself sick
23:34:13 <T3sl4> and a few oz of hickory nuts this fall/late summer but dear god the squirrels eat so many of them, it's no wonder they're so fat right now
23:35:47 <T3sl4> there's a patch of strawberries one block over from here, planted with other flowers along a parking lot
23:36:07 <T3sl4> they spread so far this year, gonna be so many next year lol
23:36:18 <Nothing\> i have some strawberry planters but somehow they became infested with woodlice last year
23:36:20 <Nothing\> :/
23:36:28 <T3sl4> :(
23:36:46 <Nothing\> and even before that, before they ever got ripe, animals would eat them
23:37:17 <Nothing\> i have a ton of morning glories, though
23:37:37 <T3sl4> there's a fair number of those around here
23:37:38 <Nothing\> they've completely taken over my garden
23:38:02 <T3sl4> also, tons of wild grape, but they're small, sour and mostly seeds, so
23:38:14 <Nothing\> ah yeah
23:38:21 <Nothing\> i have some wild corn like that
23:38:30 <Nothing\> not so much seeds, but very hard kernels
23:38:34 <Nothing\> and small ears
23:38:48 <Nothing\> musta fell out of the bird feeder
23:39:09 <Nothing\> we've also got some oats and some other type of grain or grass
23:39:55 <T3sl4> technically, they're all grasses are grains
23:40:05 <Nothing\> true
23:40:19 <Nothing\> is it all grasses are grains or all grains are grasses?
23:40:22 <Nothing\> or both?
23:40:48 <Nothing\> cuz i knew the latter, but not the former
23:40:50 <T3sl4> both?
23:41:02 <Nothing\> anywho i have to go get my timmy's now
23:41:04 <Nothing\> i'll bbiab
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