// #eevblog — 2021-09-12
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00:00:14 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Oscilloscope spotting. Name the post apocalyptic movie. https://t.co/Z7PlnS5RMr
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01:01:18 <rust_collector> hsn !! it is here!
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01:26:40 <Nothing\> CS question
01:26:47 <Nothing\> how are hostmasks generated?
01:27:19 <Nothing\> i've always wondered about them cuz the only time i've ever seen them is on irc... and maybe a whois or tracert or something i dunno
01:27:59 <Nothing\> i know the ident is user generated
01:28:09 <Nothing\> ie everything before the @
01:37:22 <Nothing\> anyways, whenever you guys wake up
01:37:52 <Nothing\> whomever sees this, try saying "q fuh" over and over again as fast as you can
01:37:59 <Kuschelpony> Hello Nothing
01:38:08 <Nothing\> oh hey there my german brother
01:38:11 <Nothing\> how goes it?
01:38:21 <Kuschelpony> im wake, its early afternnoon here but im sorry to say i dont know anything about hostmasks
01:38:35 <Kuschelpony> mmh silent tired saturday
01:38:37 <Nothing\> no worries, it was just an idle question
01:38:41 <Kuschelpony> just made dinner
01:38:47 <Nothing\> thta is, a random thing i thought of that made me curious
01:39:01 <Kuschelpony> ah anyway im happy for any question that i could help
01:39:03 <Nothing\> it's not important and i can look it up if i really wanna know
01:39:08 <Nothing\> you and me both
01:39:13 <Nothing\> i love spreading knowledge
01:39:26 <Nothing\> i have few passions in this life but teaching and learning are among them
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01:39:50 <Kuschelpony> ah
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01:40:16 <Nothing\> i've always wanted to make an educational youtube channel about beginner's electronics stuff but I figure so many people already have, it doesn't seem like there's a point
01:40:37 <Kuschelpony> well im myself in a position whre i want to help other people as far as i can, because i feel in my other life im a kind of beggar and social failure, so i hope i can help at least with tech
01:40:45 <Nothing\> but then there are a bunch of tools i used while i was learning that made learning a LOT easier
01:40:57 <Nothing\> i'd love to make videos about them and how to use them and such
01:41:01 <Nothing\> like circuitmod
01:41:07 <Nothing\> or logisim
01:41:38 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, that's an awesome philosophy
01:41:42 <Nothing\> very proactive, i like it
01:42:19 <Kuschelpony> i want to treat people like i so miss that other people treat me, like taking a hand and leading around obstacles
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01:42:43 <Nothing\> i dunno, ever since i had a kid 18 years ago i always got a great deal of pleasure from trying to teach her the most complicated things i could
01:42:57 <Kuschelpony> understood
01:43:01 <Nothing\> heh i taught my 5 year old niece all about particle physics and relativitity
01:43:06 <Nothing\> she ate that stuff up
01:43:21 <Nothing\> but none of them are in my life anymore so, no more teaching
01:43:24 <Nothing\> :/
01:43:30 <Kuschelpony> now i am born to be single and certainly not cant handle kids, but i still look to find buddies
01:43:59 <Nothing\> yeah i haven't seen my daughter in 6 years or my nieces in 3 and there's little chance i ever will again
01:44:12 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ extra tight
01:44:21 <Nothing\> and if i'm being honest, i've been single since my wife left me almost 15 years ago
01:44:24 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera
01:44:30 <Nothing\> heya buddy how ya doing?
01:44:40 <Ampera> currently enjoying the miracle of cellular internet
01:44:54 <Nothing\> actually, i did have 1 rebound girlfriend after my wife, but there was nothing significant about that relationship
01:45:03 <Nothing\> she'd get me drunk, i'd put out
01:45:03 <Ampera> watching youtube, chatting on IRC, all while on the road into bumblefuck country
01:45:06 <Kuschelpony> no wories, i never had a partner
01:45:13 <Nothing\> that was about how our relationship went
01:45:24 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, do you mind if i ask how old you are?
01:45:34 <Kuschelpony> sure! im 43
01:45:57 <Nothing\> that's good you don't seem ashamed of never having a partner
01:46:29 <Nothing\> you don't seem to worry about it so much, like most of society does
01:47:07 <Nothing\> i dunno how prevalent that sort of thinking is in EU or germany specifically
01:47:09 <Ampera> no joke, the moment I said that my 5G dropped and I'm now on AT&T 3G
01:47:14 <Nothing\> but in america it's all over the place
01:47:16 <Kuschelpony> i feel in no way attracted to need to have a partner, that feels irrational to me and like a recipe for shit divorcement
01:47:19 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol
01:47:40 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, that's pretty much exactly how i feel
01:47:53 <Kuschelpony> oh the social norm here expects to have a partner until somethign 30 or 35, these who have still not married are then considered as failure
01:48:11 <Kuschelpony> thats commenting about bavaria, other parts of germaqny are different
01:48:43 <Kuschelpony> my personal feeling is much more i want some rings of buddies and closer friends
01:48:48 <Nothing\> tbh, the whole process of finding someone, gaining their affection, maintaining said affection, making sacrifices for them, things of that nature, just seems like way more hassle than its worth
01:48:57 <Nothing\> oh and funny story
01:49:08 <Nothing\> the first time i ever had unprotected sex, i got her pregnant
01:49:31 <Nothing\> hence why i'm 36 with a daughter who's turning 18 this year
01:50:09 <Kuschelpony> ooops
01:50:20 <Nothing\> yeah really
01:50:41 <Nothing\> i was 17 and a homeless alcoholic drug addict who was on probation when it happened
01:50:43 <Kuschelpony> at least i have no inclination of sex with womans at all
01:51:03 <Nothing\> i was living in the basement of my friend's parents who took me in after my own mum kicked me out cuz my drug problem was too much for her
01:51:14 <Nothing\> which i never blamed her for, i'd have kicked me out too
01:52:07 <Nothing\> but things worked out, she got some money from a class action lawsuit against the government because the water in the city she went to school in was tainted with e. coli and everybody got sick
01:52:17 <Ampera> there's my 5G back
01:52:18 <Nothing\> plus we both got jobs
01:52:27 <Nothing\> so we used that money to get our own apartment
01:52:42 <Nothing\> which we got evicted from because our baby was too noisy. lol can you imagine that?
01:52:53 <Nothing\> wish i knew laws better back then
01:53:29 <Kuschelpony> ouch, no hsppy story
01:53:37 <Nothing\> it was cuz we lived in back portion of a house that was split in 2 and the landlord's daughter lived in the front portion. So of course she got the special treatment.
01:54:18 <Nothing\> heh back then we could pay $550 for a 1 bedroom apartment
01:54:28 <Nothing\> nowadays it's at least $900 for an apartment like that
01:54:33 <Nothing\> probably more
01:54:43 <Nothing\> bachelors usually go for $800-$900
01:55:12 <Nothing\> i just read that the average price of a house in canada now is $780k
01:55:31 <Nothing\> it's getting to the point where the middle class can't even afford to buy houses anymore
01:55:55 <Nothing\> in some cities like toronto or vancouver, the average price is over $1 million
01:56:05 <Nothing\> just for a regular, middle class home
01:57:22 <Nothing\> i remember going to toronto to see phantom of the opera for school in 1998. I saw a homeless man and thought it was such a novelty. I gave the guy some money. But yeah it was something I'd never seen before.
01:57:55 <Nothing\> meanwhile a couple years ago we had a tent city pop up downtown that just kept getting bigger and bigger until the property owner burned it to the ground
01:58:13 <Nothing\> now they're more scattered through the city
01:59:13 <Nothing\> you know, i think if the government can't/won't build housing for the homeless. At least give them a plot of land they can set up their tent on and live without being harassed
02:00:18 <Kuschelpony> thats an us centric view that assumes there is everywhere lots of cheap land
02:01:02 <Kuschelpony> in many parts of the eu thats just already covered by towns and industry
02:14:18 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, i dunno, i was looking at Germany/Austria on Google Earth the other day, and there was an amazing amount of forest you guys have
02:14:39 <Kuschelpony> right, as i said "many parts"
02:14:41 <Nothing\> maybe it's not like that everywhere
02:14:44 <Nothing\> yeah
02:14:45 <Nothing\> heh
02:15:07 <Nothing\> i was really impressed though, you won't find that much woodland in ontario
02:15:17 <Nothing\> at least, the inhabited parts of it
02:15:18 <Kuschelpony> "here" in that village i could go for 20km of mostly meadows and some forests, thats where they plant our food
02:15:41 <Nothing\> that's cool. I have no idea where my food comes from
02:15:50 <Kuschelpony> in the norhtwest part of germany, there are places where you could go past 20km without leaving one of the towns
02:15:52 <Nothing\> except for the address of the factory they stamp on the box
02:15:55 <Kuschelpony> hihi
02:16:06 <Kuschelpony> i can literally walk by the fields
02:16:15 <Nothing\> man that'd be great
02:16:24 <Nothing\> i used to live in a really green city with lots of trails
02:16:34 <Nothing\> you could walk the whole city without ever needing to use a road
02:17:06 <Nothing\> actually it was a tri-city. So like, 3 cities that used to be separate but grew so much that they merged into one giant city
02:17:39 <Kuschelpony> yep
02:17:55 <Nothing\> used to be the home to RIM/Blackberry's HQ
02:18:03 <Kuschelpony> thats next to here as well, where nuremburg and fuerth have been grown together to be one double city
02:18:14 <Nothing\> dunno if they even still exist, but Waterloo still has RIM Park
02:18:19 <Nothing\> which is the business park
02:18:42 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, ah yeah you know what i mean then
02:18:50 <Kuschelpony> yep
02:19:11 <Kuschelpony> and fun fact, in historic times the first ever railroad in europe was built between these two cities
02:19:28 <Nothing\> speaking of rail, you ever been to wuppertal?
02:19:32 <Kuschelpony> also, we have there the oldest railroad building in europe
02:19:49 <Kuschelpony> not yet, its in the northwest about diagonally away from where i live
02:20:01 <Nothing\> heh sounds like it's on your bucket list though
02:20:14 <Kuschelpony> not explicitly
02:20:35 <Nothing\> well i'm sure there's a lot more to see in germany than just a monorail anyways
02:20:42 <Nothing\> i've always wanted to visit the black forest
02:20:52 <Kuschelpony> i do have two or three reasons why i might travel close to that place, one perhaps even in spring, so i might also visit wueprtal just beeing curious
02:21:00 <Kuschelpony> for me certainly :)
02:21:12 <Nothing\> and, god help me, obersalzberg
02:21:22 <Nothing\> not just for the nazi stuff
02:21:27 <Nothing\> but it's just such a beautiful area
02:21:30 <Kuschelpony> im just someone who loves to travel by train and also beeing curious about their oddities
02:22:31 <Nothing\> i'm just reading a mark twain book about some kids who lived in austria in the 16th century. It remainds me of such quaint little villages
02:22:47 <Kuschelpony> ah
02:22:57 <Nothing\> cut off from the world and all inhabitants as close as family
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02:27:07 <Nothing\> oh wow
02:27:12 <Nothing\> it's the 20th anniversary of 9/11
02:27:19 <Nothing\> i didn't even think about that till just now
02:27:29 <Nothing\> jeeeez where did the time go?
02:28:04 <Nothing\> seems like just yesterday i was sitting in class in my psych hospital watching it play out on the tv
02:28:14 <Kuschelpony> and i still remember the moment when it was 20 years ago
02:28:41 <Kuschelpony> even if i would love to forget that thing and instead look forward
02:29:13 <Nothing\> it's funny, pschologists did a study where right after 9/11 they asked people where they were. Then something like 10 years later, they asked them again where they were and a good percent of people were wrong about where they were
02:29:32 <Nothing\> even though it was such a significant and vividly remembered event for everyone
02:29:48 <Nothing\> most people are wrong about where they were or what they were doing when it happened
02:29:50 <Nothing\> apparently
02:30:04 <Nothing\> i wish i could cite the study, it was just mentioned in a psych lecture off hand
02:32:46 <Kuschelpony> oh i ahve hard facts to remember :)
02:33:46 <Kuschelpony> the flat of the client where i was, the antenna measurement receiver where i watched the live video on the screen right after i had adjusted his dish for satellite reception
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05:09:01 <Ampera> I am in vermont
05:09:13 <rust_collector> well, get out of there?
05:10:10 <Ampera> how
05:10:27 <rust_collector> go somewhere else?
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05:11:09 <Ampera> why
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05:11:37 <rust_collector> to get out of Vermont...
05:13:10 <electrohead> lol
05:13:13 <electrohead> hey Ampera
05:13:15 * electrohead pokes rust_collector
05:13:23 <rust_collector> OI!
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05:35:42 <Ampera> I have escaped vermont
05:36:08 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
05:37:01 <rust_collector> what are you doing up there in the 'stans?
05:37:41 <Ampera> I bought cheap maple syrup
05:37:58 <Ampera> 1 pint (~500ml) for 8 dollars
05:40:08 <electrohead> you drove to vermont just to buy that?
05:40:10 <electrohead> lmfao
05:45:04 <Ampera> no, we're on the NY cheese tour in Washington county
05:45:43 <Ampera> so Vermont was just right there
05:49:00 <electrohead> ahh I see :p
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07:56:45 <Some_Person> Goodwill stuff; didn’t buy anything: https://imgur.com/a/V33mB6U
07:56:46 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
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10:08:35 <Halcyon> Morning biscuits
10:09:53 <steve30> hi
10:10:19 <Ampera> good morning assholettes
10:10:57 <steve30> the right click switch in my trackball is going bad
10:13:49 <steve30> this looks cool
10:13:50 <steve30> https://github.com/RoiEf/ESP32-5G-Test-Antenna-Joke
10:18:40 <Ampera> the problem is people get it backwards
10:18:43 <Ampera> COVID-19 causes 5G
10:18:51 <Ampera> why else would we have gotten 5G in 2020
10:34:38 <steve30> i'm just wondering if i can manage going out somewhere
10:35:01 <Ampera> I went on a cheese tour
10:35:06 <Ampera> if I can manage that, you can manage anything
10:35:24 <Ampera> my mom's boyfriend's pickup has some pretty damn tight back seats
10:35:43 <Ampera> the sort of back truck seats designed for people who don't actually have legs
10:37:28 <Ampera> I need to buy more drives for my server, but I just don't want to spend the damn money
10:37:43 <Ampera> I need another 3 4TB drives and a few NVMe SSDs
10:37:53 <Ampera> all together maybe 400-500 bucks of drives
10:37:59 <Ampera> /at least/
10:38:55 <Ampera> I want an SSD for slog/l2arc in both my storage and compute servers, and another SSD for booting on both machines
10:40:47 <steve30> I got a 4TB HDD a few months ago, but i think i'll get another one as a backup
10:40:52 <Ampera> I kinda want to see if I can get a really good deal on enterprise grade 4TB drives. my normal supplier goes for around 60/80$ a drive
10:41:08 <Ampera> and I could really do with around 8
10:41:30 <Ampera> as I want a couple of raidz1 pools to replace my really shitty raid0 pools
11:29:29 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - The crusty old 3kW system on the now terrible roof angle is still doing a very useful 10kWh/day https://t.co/N67DYuxeHC
13:15:41 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Need suggestions for the best way to bend 3.2mm SS rod into the shape above. Need to do a few dozen of them so want… https://t.co/sPuZlSx4nS
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13:57:57 <DHess_US> I gave up using SSDs for work drives. They wear out too quickly.
13:59:04 <DHess_US> I use them for temp/swap where I know they will be destroyed in a couple years, for portable storage in place of usb flash, and as temporary boot drives while testing a system.
14:22:01 <Kuschelpony> good morning from german sunday
14:22:13 <Kuschelpony> lazy breakfast
14:29:12 <steve30> hi
14:29:48 <Kuschelpony> Hello steve
14:55:59 <Halcyon> Hello biscuits
15:00:06 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - This will have to do. DIY bending jig + Mk1 eyeball works good enough for Australia. https://t.co/P1VuUFq9NJ
15:00:44 <steve30> Halcyon, did you see my video from the rotherham show?
15:04:29 <Halcyon> When did you post it?
15:06:07 <steve30> https://odysee.com/@steve30:3/miss_trixie_holiday_rotherham_show_2021:6
15:06:09 <EEVBot> [Title] - Miss Trixie Holiday - Can't Take My Eyes Off You @ Rotherham Show 2021
15:06:20 <steve30> There's a brief appearance by spirderman
15:07:03 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Not to shabby. https://t.co/aYsUPwI0qi
15:07:14 <steve30> And if you watch it, she definitely says the word /Pianist/.
15:08:47 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Not too shabby. https://t.co/qwcvakF75X
15:09:10 <Halcyon> Hahaha Pianist :P
15:09:36 <Halcyon> She has a "wonderful penis called Matt"
15:10:39 <Halcyon> She's a pretty good singer
15:11:46 <steve30> I have about 3 hours of video tape to go through. I'll see if I can condense it all into something <15 minutes at some point.
15:12:08 <Halcyon> I can't work out of that's two ugly guys or two lesbians in the background
15:13:05 <steve30> Who knows.
15:13:21 <Halcyon> Her penis Matt is a bit OK
15:13:30 <Halcyon> Needs a haircut though
15:15:55 <DHess_US> Kuschelpony, it is midnight in the US.
15:16:19 <Kuschelpony> i am sure yes, with that different timezones
15:32:03 <DHess_US> I'm just not used to thinking in terms of "morning in Germany"
15:32:24 <DHess_US> Usually I would make a joke about who you will be invading today, but Germans have no sense of humor.
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15:37:08 <Kuschelpony> sorry that i have an completely different kind of humor
15:37:40 <Kuschelpony> its not specifically to cultural differences, but also because i have just an brain that takes everything serious
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15:46:29 <DHess_US> Robin Williams said it best, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNs5bpM1310
15:46:30 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Robin Williams: Comedy in Germany
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16:15:46 <electrohead> o/
16:17:17 <watcher> o/
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16:21:26 <Halcyon> Hey electrohead
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16:36:34 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-QgyOQjKcU
16:36:35 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The creamiest Gochujang Chicken Pot Pies | #athome #withme | Marion's Kitchen
16:36:40 <Halcyon> This looks like a good recipe
16:39:20 <Halcyon> The only thing I'd do different is make actual pie shells, rather than just the top
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18:37:59 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Of course I did a video https://t.co/j6CLE5LsQ0
19:05:10 <DogWomble_> "just the tip..." was that delibeate? :)
19:06:58 <Halcyon> Of course
19:07:31 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW Video on EEVblog2! How To Bend Stainless Steel Rod https://t.co/nnNs3RTIxG
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23:04:10 <Ampera> I just read Girls und Panzer being used as a cultural reference on Wikipedia to a russian folk song
23:04:11 <Ampera> :/
23:04:37 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542853460157136896/593455387160608828/D9_uI09XoAE4pj9.png
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