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00:00:02 <Avatar> 10-11
00:09:01 <Morzorak> hello
00:20:10 <Avatar> hellogoodbye!
00:55:31 <Mekkis> moin
01:16:01 <Mekkis> Avatar, are there plans for PFS on Monday at conquest?
01:36:14 <Avatar> it's happening but we don't know what's running yet
01:36:42 <Avatar> even adventure card game was one suggestion
02:17:17 <Mekkis> well, I'll keep that in mind. Still need to book return trip
02:28:21 <Philderbeast|work> thanks for the email avatar it makes reporint and getting chronicals done much easier
03:43:28 <Avatar> yeah thought so
03:43:41 <Avatar> if it sounds like I might not do that and you still want me to, tell me
04:44:37 <Avatar> oops
04:44:39 <Avatar> forgot to ask for the link
07:14:54 <Avatar> 2 spots left in tomorrow's game, someone dropped out
09:39:11 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
09:39:11 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Feb 22 23:01:30 2015
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10:00:19 <Avatar> does anyone want to play in encounter in drowning stones? we're short a player
10:00:24 <Avatar> we've got 3
10:06:59 <Whitey> I'd love to, but I'm at work :(
11:11:16 <Mekkis> !item chime of opening
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11:26:25 <Avatar> I just put one of the 3 bad guys to sleep
11:26:36 <Avatar> then the next guy in line casts murderous command to wake him up
11:31:09 <Avatar> now the pregen has hit another one I put to sleep because who knows
11:31:15 <Whitey> haha
11:31:25 <Whitey> hey Avatar, how do I observe the game going on?
11:31:35 <Whitey> I always assumed it was played within the channel
11:39:35 <Avatar> it's on roll20
11:39:41 <Avatar> don't watch it man, it spoils it
11:39:52 <Avatar> if you want in, get involved and play
11:40:00 <Avatar> it's boring to watch even if it's fun
11:40:16 <Avatar> people usually leave mid way through the first encounter when they watch
11:44:24 <Whitey> yeah, but I don't have time to play :P
11:44:36 <Whitey> it'd be something nice to watch at work whilst I'm working
11:45:38 <Whitey> is it modules or an ongoing campaign?
11:45:46 <Avatar> it's a PFS scenario
11:46:17 <Whitey> but not ongoing weekly characters? is it fresh every week?
11:48:04 <Avatar> er
11:48:15 <Avatar> different scenario each time you play
11:48:23 <Avatar> you can play with different players, or different characters
11:48:39 <Avatar> each character has their own credit based on what they play or how much they play
11:48:52 <Whitey> yeah, I've played a little PFS
11:48:59 <Whitey> don't have the time to go to the games anymore on sunday mornings :(
11:51:07 <Avatar> it's not always sunday
11:51:12 <Avatar> any GM can run it at any time
11:51:29 <Avatar> it's not "weekly"
11:51:33 <Whitey> lol, I work 50 hour weeks and have a kid at home, and run my own game every 2 weeks :P
11:51:38 <Whitey> I struggle with things in my spare time!
12:05:00 <Avatar> abandon your game
12:05:40 <Whitey> lol
12:05:49 <Whitey> I don't think my players would be happy about that!
12:19:18 <Avatar> they can play too
12:43:03 <Whitey> lol
12:43:09 <Whitey> yeah, I don't think they'd like that :P
13:00:45 <Avatar> was that a 3 hour game?
13:00:50 <Philderbeast> see i wasent trying to kill snickers
13:00:56 <Avatar> easy money
13:00:56 <Philderbeast> yea about that
13:02:30 <Philderbeast> and reported on paizo
13:03:11 <Avatar> er, I think I might have levelled up
13:03:40 <Philderbeast> ncie
13:04:54 <Avatar> er
13:05:08 <Avatar> I'm counting 34 exp
13:05:19 <Avatar> isn't that like 11.1
13:05:24 <Avatar> or 12.1
13:05:27 <Philderbeast> 12.1
13:05:41 <Avatar> can you check the scenario list at the bottom of my sheet
13:05:48 <Avatar> there's 2 modules in there that grant 3 xp
13:07:19 <Philderbeast> that list is all over the place
13:07:46 <Avatar> what do you mean
13:08:03 <Philderbeast> you need to order that by when ou played them
13:08:08 <Avatar> they are
13:08:19 <Avatar> the dates are on the left
13:08:25 <Philderbeast> it cant be.....
13:08:38 <Philderbeast> or you where out of teir for several of them
13:08:51 <Philderbeast> ruby pheonix as your 5th game?
13:08:54 <Avatar> ruby phoenix tournament was played early when you can roll up a pregenned character
13:08:59 <Avatar> that should be the only one that looks out of place
13:09:04 <Philderbeast> and crypt of the everflame with at least 5 making you level 3
13:09:09 <Philderbeast> 6*
13:09:14 <Philderbeast> for a 1-2 module
13:09:58 <Philderbeast> you cant use a pregen for ruby pheonix... or at least you cant anymore
13:10:09 <Avatar> yeah we played it just before the rule changed
13:11:45 <Philderbeast> 12.1 after today
13:11:57 <Philderbeast> unless you missed exp somewhere
13:12:31 <Avatar> date is wrong for CotE, it's from 2011
13:12:32 <Philderbeast> (2013-10-05) 5-06: The Elven Entanglement (0gp) +?? [0P] im guessing that was 0xp
13:12:41 <Avatar> oh yeah, that's 0 exp
13:12:52 <Philderbeast> so your exactly level 12 now...
13:12:58 <Philderbeast> unless there is more lost xp with deaths
13:13:12 <Avatar> okay well that's still better than 12.1
13:13:15 <Avatar> I'll check up on the rest
13:13:40 <Philderbeast> TBH unless you can fix the records for that char you should probably retire it anyway
13:14:06 <Avatar> yeah the reporting will fix it
13:14:23 <Avatar> not sure why the exp counter wasn't right
13:14:51 <Philderbeast> are your chronicals correct at least?
13:16:07 <Avatar> I usually keep the chronicle info in a list like this
13:16:23 <Avatar> they wouldn't have been any better
13:18:49 <Avatar> can't believe I blew through level 11 without getting to try split hex
14:19:58 <Philderbeast> hmmm i need to level up my cleric it seems...
14:20:08 <Philderbeast> whats a good level 3 spell to add to her list?
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15:15:15 <Avatar> mekkis are you about
15:19:37 <Avatar> there's only 4 modules for post-12
15:19:59 <Avatar> Academy of Secrets (12-14), Tomb of the Iron Medusa (13-15), The Moonscar (15-17), The Witchwar Legacy (16-18)
15:58:37 <Pheal> morning all
15:58:42 <Pheal> anyone awake?
16:04:13 <Avatar> barely
16:04:31 <Pheal> its a bit like that
16:04:48 <Pheal> up for answering some questions from an eager newbie?
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16:12:19 <Avatar> soitanly
16:12:38 <Avatar> ask the question instead of asking if you can have your question that you haven't yet asked answered
16:12:58 <Avatar> you could have had them all answered by now
16:27:21 <Pheal> ahh I always feel bad just blurting them out
16:28:25 <Pheal> I guess my first one is, I'm going to be running a game of pathfinder for the first time. I used to play dnd 3.5 years ago so I'm not a complete beginer to the d20 system
16:28:47 <Pheal> do you have any general tips to begin with for campaign generation?
16:29:59 <Avatar> no idea
16:30:01 <Avatar> make something up
16:30:13 <Pheal> and is there antying in the general gameplay that has changed massivly? everyting I've read seems to point to pathfinder being streamlined dnd 3.5
16:32:03 <Pheal> thats what I'm in the proccess of doing lol
16:32:41 <Pheal> I think I've got a nice controlled setting, basically the town they are in has been controlled by a death cult for years under the guise of being a neutral god
16:33:11 <Pheal> I'm going to ring the town with mountains and allow only one pass thats closed
16:34:00 <Avatar> if you're running a campaign, you're better off running a premade one first
16:34:10 <Pheal> any suggestions?
16:34:24 <Avatar> pathfinder society
16:34:26 <Pheal> the people I'm playing with have had little to no experiance
16:34:39 <Avatar> www.pathfindersocietyonline.com
16:34:44 <Pheal> sweeeet
16:34:53 <Avatar> go to Getting Started
16:35:08 <Pheal> thanks dude
16:35:17 <Avatar> you'll be laughing all the way to the bank
16:37:16 <Pheal> so what is your favourite change in pathfinder that was diffrent to 3.5? and what is in your opion the worst change?
16:39:24 <Avatar> everything !
16:39:30 <Avatar> there is no worst change
16:39:39 <Avatar> pathfinder is inherently better
16:39:46 <Pheal> ahhhhh
16:39:51 <Pheal> thats what my dad says
16:40:12 <Pheal> he's been playing since red box
16:40:14 <Avatar> I think the rare situational rule might have gotten over-simplified and for those it's worth having a look back to 3.5 for intent
16:40:22 <Pheal> he said pathfider is the way to go
16:40:29 <Pheal> ok
16:40:31 <Avatar> but you'll be lucky if you ever run into that situation
16:40:32 <Pheal> how about the combat?
16:40:39 <Avatar> the combat is amazing
16:40:41 <Pheal> it always seemed to get a bit bogged down in 3.5
16:40:49 <Avatar> you move, you hit, turn over !!!
16:40:59 <Avatar> it is still bogged down
16:41:04 <Pheal> ok
16:41:05 <Avatar> not that much has changed
16:41:08 <Avatar> that's by design
16:41:10 <Pheal> yah yah
16:41:19 <Avatar> I love saying that, that's by design
16:41:24 <Pheal> hahahhahaha
16:41:27 <Avatar> it doesn't really mean anything
16:41:30 <Pheal> it's like saying it's in the bible
16:42:26 <Avatar> where are you located
16:42:58 <Pheal> brisbane australia
16:42:59 <Avatar> qld
16:43:00 <Pheal> how about you?
16:43:05 <Avatar> I'm in melbourne
16:43:11 <Pheal> ahh cool cool
16:43:13 <Avatar> we are playing a game today
16:43:18 <Pheal> sweeet
16:43:23 <Avatar> you want in
16:43:27 <Avatar> we have a couple of slots free
16:43:29 <Pheal> I havent played a game of anyting in 10+ years
16:43:35 <Avatar> do you remember how to play
16:43:42 <Pheal> nah I got to go out soon so I wont have much time
16:43:49 <Avatar> mate you are missing out
16:43:58 <Pheal> yeah, its d20 based system so not much to forget lol
16:44:16 <Avatar> in pathfinder society you can play with different people each session
16:44:33 <Avatar> you roll up a character and take that character to different tables per game
16:44:47 <Pheal> hmmm
16:45:02 <Avatar> the whole thing is the "campaign" and each game you play a "scenario"
16:45:02 <Pheal> i might give it a go when i get some free time to practice
16:45:05 <Pheal> how long do games go for?
16:45:06 <Avatar> where a scenario is just a mission
16:45:15 <Avatar> 5-6 hours
16:45:22 <Avatar> some go for 4, some go for 8
16:45:25 <Pheal> hmmmmmm
16:45:40 <Pheal> maybe, but i have been up all night drinking, so i gotta crash at some stage lol
16:45:47 <Avatar> that was a mistake
16:45:53 <Avatar> that wont' have been more fun than some sweet sweet pathfinder
16:45:56 <Pheal> hahah yeah
16:46:07 <Avatar> you have to start your character at level 1
16:46:08 <Pheal> are you a drug dealer?
16:46:15 <Avatar> basically !
16:46:19 <Pheal> case you seem to be pretty good at pushing your product lol!
16:46:22 <Pheal> just one taste
16:46:25 <Pheal> the first is freee
16:46:26 <Avatar> oh yeah you'll be back
16:46:30 <Pheal> hahahah
16:46:40 <Avatar> if you're planning on running games, you get credit for that too
16:46:43 <Avatar> no-risk credit
16:46:54 <Avatar> you can apply exp and gold to a character you play
16:46:56 <Pheal> how does credit work?
16:47:12 <Avatar> so at the end of each scenario, everyone gets some gold, some prestige, and 1 xp
16:47:15 <Avatar> 3 xp means you level up
16:47:21 <Pheal> ahh k
16:47:26 <Avatar> players risk death
16:47:29 <Pheal> ad how do you keep track of this all?
16:47:30 <Avatar> but GMs risk nothing and get full credit
16:47:34 <Pheal> ah ok
16:47:43 <Avatar> you get a chronicle sheet with all your rewards at the end
16:47:48 <Pheal> I dont htink I would want to gm a bunch of internet rps's first up though hahahaha
16:47:53 <Avatar> I keep a shorthand list on my character sheet
16:47:57 <Pheal> one rule lawyer and i would give up
16:48:09 <Avatar> if you keep it fair, most people don't care
16:48:19 <Pheal> ok
16:48:29 <Pheal> just for fun and roleplaying?
16:48:30 <Avatar> you can't make up a lot of rules in pathfinder society because it's global
16:48:45 <Avatar> there is fun and there is roleplaying and there are rules
16:49:20 <Pheal> cool stuff gets more points?
16:49:23 <Avatar> you can't say "I don't like that the dodge feat doesn't force you to designate a target anymore like 3.5 did, we're going to do it like the old stylez"
16:49:59 <Avatar> but you can say "does anyone understand how mirror image works? no? then this is my interpretation and this is what we'll follow, cool?"
16:50:16 <Avatar> there's no points
16:50:23 <Avatar> there's set rewards for every scenario
16:50:27 <Pheal> sorry exp
16:50:40 <Avatar> 1 exp, gold appropriate to the scenario, and 1 or 2 prestige based on whether you complete the objectives
16:51:01 <Avatar> the gold is listed on the chronicle sheet, that's the real reason for it
16:51:10 <Avatar> there's more technicalities on there, but who cares
16:51:22 <Pheal> yah
16:51:37 <Pheal> have you ever watched the penny arcade sessions?
16:51:39 <Avatar> make sure you pick up the guide to pathfinder society organised play
16:51:44 <Avatar> nah
16:51:51 <Pheal> thats what got me intrested in rpging again
16:51:59 <Pheal> the way they play their games, its just fun
16:52:13 <Avatar> mate their games are a JOKE compared to ours
16:52:15 <Avatar> probably
16:52:17 <Pheal> but they do have the advantage of having the head gm from wizards on thier
16:52:18 <Pheal> hahah
16:52:22 <Pheal> the ones you havent seen?
16:52:30 <Avatar> yeah
16:52:36 <Avatar> seriously, grab the PFS guide
16:52:38 <Avatar> and read it
16:52:40 <Avatar> very important
16:52:53 <Pheal> ok
17:27:57 <Avatar> is there usually a cost to scribing scrolls from another spellbook into yours
17:28:26 <Avatar> or is it just spellcraft checks
17:30:01 <Avatar> just spellcraft by the look of it
17:30:07 <Avatar> Philderbeast: we need a roll20 link
17:30:27 <Whitey> Pheal: I started a home game about 9 months ago, our first game - we did (and are still running) Rise of the Runelords
17:30:36 <Whitey> strongly recommend it, well document and written out, heaps of information
17:37:17 <Philderbeast> yea i jsut got home give me 5 mins
17:41:34 <Avatar> looks like I gotta run out to the shops or I'm going to starve today
17:43:04 <Whitey> nah you'll be fine, just grab some stale old weetbix out of the cupboard and eat those
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17:48:18 <Brunius> Philderbeast, you gonna fight at festival?
17:56:24 <Philderbeast> probably not
18:02:07 <Pheal> rise of the runelords hey?
18:02:12 <Pheal> ok i'll chcek it out
18:02:26 <Avatar> back for more
18:02:29 <Philderbeast> its a really good campaign
18:02:38 <Avatar> got that link phil
18:03:01 <Philderbeast> cool still waiting on 1 more player and you
18:03:18 <Avatar> for what
18:03:33 <Avatar> oh you emailed it
18:03:37 <Pheal> have you gugs got any suggestions for cheap minuaters?
18:03:38 <Philderbeast> till everyone is in there
18:03:43 <Philderbeast> you?
18:03:45 <Philderbeast> reaper bones
18:03:49 <Pheal> my dad has some old school lead ones, dont really want to touch them too much
18:03:56 <Avatar> pheal: buy a miniature that isn't a miniature
18:04:04 <Avatar> like a lego man
18:04:05 <Pheal> otherwise its just these really old ones from this game called heros quest
18:04:07 <Pheal> ahhhh yeah
18:04:24 <Pheal> actually I think my cousin has some dark elder we can use
18:04:33 <Avatar> brunius had an amazing witch lego man
18:04:35 <Pheal> bit out of place lol
18:05:39 <Avatar> it was perfect
18:05:54 <Avatar> same goes with tokens in online games
18:06:00 <Pheal> nah i was saying about the dark elder
18:06:15 <Pheal> is rise of the runelords a campaing setting or modual?
18:06:15 <Whitey> we just play with words, and grab out a mat and some game tokens if there's a battle going
18:06:26 <Whitey> generally we don't have anything physical representing us though
18:06:28 <Whitey> it's good fun
18:06:43 <Whitey> I think it's like 6 modules built together
18:06:50 <Whitey> all into a single book
18:06:53 <Pheal> yah yah, thats what I did when I played 2nd edition (not very well, was like 8 playing with grown me)
18:07:06 <Pheal> then they had battle mas and stuff, my mind was blown
18:07:12 <Pheal> never understood THACO to this day
18:24:47 <Philderbeast> yea its a full campaign 1 - 18 ish
18:26:39 <Brunius> nah, not going to festival after all
18:26:43 <Brunius> maybe next year
18:26:49 <Philderbeast> yea im only going for 1 day
18:27:14 <Avatar> phil: want some advice
18:27:26 <Avatar> put the intro wall of text and knowledges in handouts
18:27:34 <Avatar> far easier to refer back to them mid-game
18:33:04 <Philderbeast> yea im working on handouts now
18:46:43 <Philderbeast> so i need 6 more exp on my DD....
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20:31:59 <Mekkis> Avatar, yes, and...?
20:32:23 <Avatar> and that's not enough !!
20:32:58 <Mekkis> you should ask Paizo to write more
20:34:06 <Avatar> paizo never listen to me
20:35:14 <Mekkis> obviously, your problem is that you insist on PFS
20:40:08 <Exo> whos the dogs
20:40:22 <Avatar> that's irrelevant
20:46:02 <Brunius> ^
20:46:11 <Exo> Haha anyway good to see ya again m8
20:46:17 <Avatar> gg
20:46:21 <Mekkis> play pathfinder without the PFS bit, and it's so much better
20:46:37 <Mekkis> speaking of which, Brunius....
20:46:44 <Mekkis> Serpent's skull...!
20:46:48 <Brunius> oh yeah
20:51:45 <Exo> I'm still running #sydney and it's still triving
20:52:58 <Avatar> that's not the problem
21:06:48 <Mekkis> oh?
21:06:50 <Avatar> it never occurred to me how dirt cheap most cracked ioun stones are
21:06:52 <Mekkis> how so?
21:08:49 <Avatar> dark blue rhomboid, +1 to sense motive and perception, 400gp
21:09:02 <Avatar> deep red sphere, +1 to any dex-based skill, 200gp
21:09:13 <Avatar> dusty rose, +1 to init, 500gp
21:09:14 <Avatar> etc
21:10:10 <Mekkis> the question was in regards to your previous statement
21:11:04 <Avatar> I don't care to go into that
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21:18:35 <Mekkis> hehe
21:19:00 <Mekkis> (One whether GM's should coup-de-grace PCs) Just threaten to start sundering and they will beg you to CdG.
21:24:27 <Mekkis> s/e//
21:27:18 <Avatar> did you shift away from playing glories
21:27:49 <Avatar> looks like you're only signed up to part 3
21:27:55 <Mekkis> yes
21:28:09 <Mekkis> it turns out that I've actually played parts one and two.
21:28:15 <Avatar> good 1
21:33:29 <Mekkis> yeah. I feel a bit bummed about it
21:33:37 <Mekkis> is ulzef not coming on the Sunday?
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21:40:19 <Avatar> I think hall of the flesh eaters needs to be dropped
21:40:32 <Avatar> I don't know if newer players don't normally sign up to 1-5s?
21:48:41 <Mekkis> I think 7-11 stuff should be scheduled :S
21:50:07 <Avatar> I'll be surprised if I don't end up running fate of the fiend
21:50:33 <Avatar> matt wants to schedule eyes of the ten on monday, but I have no idea how that can possibly happen
21:50:45 <Mekkis> ah
21:50:51 <Avatar> stephen hasn't played part 3 and 4 either, so we're trying to get him in
21:50:55 <Mekkis> part 3 can be done in a session
21:51:10 <Avatar> yeah but how will stephen possibly agree to play it on a con day
21:51:26 <Avatar> especially a con day with nothing running so far
21:51:40 <Mekkis> I've already played fate :S
21:52:04 <Avatar> yeah nobody else in melb has
21:52:15 <Mekkis> you have, now, right>
21:52:22 <Avatar> yeah, through an online game
21:52:31 <Avatar> and here's the kicker, that was to prep to run it at this con
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21:56:25 Steven1 is now known as steven
21:58:00 <Avatar> steven
21:58:17 <steven> sup
21:59:22 <Avatar> my character went from 10.1 to 12 today
21:59:28 <Avatar> that was pretty disastrous
22:00:02 <steven> did you have fun?
22:00:46 <Avatar> you don't understand
22:00:54 <Avatar> I thought I was on 10.1, but it turned out I was on 11.2
22:01:50 <steven> thats why i use a spreadsheet.
22:01:59 <Avatar> what spreadsheet
22:02:02 <Avatar> you never mentioned a spreadsheet
22:02:07 <Avatar> show us your spreadsheet
22:02:14 <steven> after every game i just type in the game, how much gold i got, and other stuff...
22:02:19 <steven> it adds it all up
22:02:38 <steven> and then all i gotta do is hit the save button
22:02:59 <steven> It is a spreadsheet... you can make one as well.
22:03:04 <Avatar> show us your format
22:03:22 <Avatar> the only thing I didn't include in my list of scenarios on my sheet was exp
22:03:38 <Avatar> I didn't account for 2 modules being worth 6
22:04:31 <steven> get on it mang
22:05:18 <Avatar> show us your paso doblè
22:05:42 <steven> no ways! its all mine!
22:06:40 * steven steeples his fingers evily!
22:19:11 <Mekkis> * Cannot join #canberra (Channel is invite only).
22:19:13 <Mekkis> :o
22:19:34 <Avatar> we want to see this paso doblè
22:19:41 <Avatar> SHOW us your paso doblè
22:23:05 <Mekkis> heh. Congrats Avatar
22:23:32 <Avatar> ha
22:30:24 <Avatar> for what
22:46:50 <Avatar> [22:45] <Quenton> what editiono d&d do you play
22:46:51 <Avatar> [22:45] <Rasmenar_> 5th currently. Thoroughly enjoying it thus far.
22:46:51 <Avatar> [22:45] <Rasmenar_> I'm DM'ing a Norse-inspired campaign.
22:46:51 <Avatar> [22:45] <Quenton> better than pathfinder?
22:46:51 <Avatar> [22:46] <Rasmenar_> Honestly? Pathfinder has more support material, but I actually like the core system of 5th better.
22:46:51 <Avatar> [22:46] <Quenton> now I know you're lying
22:46:51 <Avatar> [22:46] <Quenton> that was a test
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22:55:30 <Mekkis> Getting another character to 12
22:55:32 <Mekkis> Who is it?
22:56:00 <Avatar> Snickers
22:56:13 <Avatar> that's not worthy of congratulations, I wanted to get her to 11
22:56:16 <Avatar> so I could use split hex
22:56:26 <Avatar> now I am screwed until I find a module and people to play it with
22:58:50 <Mekkis> If you do end up playing Wardens of the Reborn Forge, keep me in the loop please !
23:00:15 <Avatar> rgr
23:00:55 <Mekkis> Oh, FYI
23:01:11 <Mekkis> My flight's booked. Will land at Tullamarine at 0750.
23:01:26 <Mekkis> Any particular clothing I should wear?
23:02:12 <Avatar> usual autumn/winter wear
23:02:24 <Avatar> just a shirt and jeans is fine for trees
23:02:42 <Avatar> shorts are fine as well if you're insistent
23:02:57 <Mekkis> shoes?
23:03:17 <Avatar> yeah bring shoes
23:03:30 <Mekkis> what sort? Runners okay? or boots?
23:03:36 <Avatar> I lost sunglasses that were hanging from my shirt
23:03:39 <Avatar> runners are fine
23:03:46 <Avatar> just not something that will slip off your feet while you're on a flying fox
23:03:53 <Avatar> you can't get anything you drop
23:03:54 <Mekkis> ah okay
23:04:18 <Avatar> I wouldn't recommend sandals, but even those are probably okay
23:04:41 <Mekkis> probably not the shoes I wear to work, is what you're saying.
23:06:46 <steven> suuuuuuuup
23:06:52 <steven> im back
23:10:21 <Mekkis> because they have hardly any grip.
23:17:46 <Avatar> it's more to protect your foot rather than grip on a surface
23:17:59 <Avatar> although if it's raining, I would prefer wearing shoes with at least a little grip
23:20:07 <steven> I always just wear work boots.
23:21:41 <steven> http://www.constructiongear.com/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/s/csgboot1000003851_-00_light-brown_rugged-blue-steel-toe-waterproof-mens-work-boots-angle.jpg
23:22:42 <Avatar> those boots are bad ass
23:22:57 <Avatar> I'd prefer a dark boot
23:25:15 <steven> you can usually get them in a darker finished leather
23:27:36 <steven> i just like them because they last as long as the finished leather, but cost about 30 bucks
23:36:55 <steven> i should buy a new pair of boots.
23:37:15 <steven> i think there is a redwings dealer over in moscow... spendy shoes but totally worth it.
23:59:54 <Avatar> room for one more person tomorrow: https://warhorn.net/events/philderbeast-online-pfs/schedule/2015/03/22
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