// #d&d — 2015-03-06
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00:00:22 <Mekkis> the -8 when Combat Expertise + power attack hurts
00:03:11 <steven> you're a level 20th druid?
00:04:10 <steven> animal companion bab caps at 12
00:05:14 <steven> is the -8 including attacking defensively?
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07:24:37 <Mekkis> steven, level 25
07:39:13 <Mekkis> !spell shrink item
07:39:18 <diebot> Mekkis, SHRINK ITEM transmutation ([]) sorcerer/wizard 3 1 standard action Range: touch one touched object of up to 2 cu. ft./level Comp: V, S Duration: 1 day/level; see text Save: Will negates (object) SR:yes (object)Source: PFRPG Core
07:39:18 <diebot> You are able to shrink one nonmagical item (if it is within the size limit) to 1/16 of its normal size in each dimension (to about 1/4,000 the original volume and mass). This change effectively reduces the object's size by four categories. Optionally, you can also change its now shrunken composition to a clothlike one. Objects changed by a shrink
07:39:18 <diebot> item spell can be returned to normal composition and size merely by tossing them onto any solid surface or by a word of command from the original caster. Even a burning fire and its fuel can be shrunk by this spell. Restoring the shrunken object to its normal size and composition ends the spell. Shrink item can be made permanent with a permanency
07:39:18 <diebot> spell, in which case the affected object can be shrunk and expanded an indefinite number of times, but only by the original caster.
07:39:54 <Mekkis> ummm...
07:40:11 <Mekkis> does that work with share spells?
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11:26:10 <Darksteel> hello?
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17:55:57 <Avatar> hallo?
18:17:15 <Avatar> crazy cheap sale on scenarios
18:17:17 <Avatar> the older the cheaper
18:17:22 <Avatar> possibly 1 day only
18:20:25 <Avatar> so many core games in the collective
18:20:31 <Avatar> not many classic games
18:36:11 <steven> yo
19:20:29 <Mekkis> hn
19:20:51 <Mekkis> So, my wizard has some issues actually making life unpleasant for people
19:20:56 <Mekkis> Can you suggest anything?
19:21:02 <steven> stop doing those things?
19:22:13 <steven> really mekkis.. its like you just said this:
19:22:32 <steven> Vague Statement, Suggestions?
19:23:11 <Mekkis> I mean, all his spells seem to be pretty wishy-washy. When there's an enemy he needs to take down, he's surprisingly ineffective
19:23:53 <steven> what kind of wizard?
19:24:46 <steven> do you have a character sheet i could look at?
19:34:24 <Mekkis> diviner
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19:47:00 <Mekkis> Any martial weapons that have an 18-20 crit range and can be wielded in two hands?
19:54:49 <steven> are you elven?
19:54:54 <Mekkis> nope
19:55:22 <steven> falchion i believe
19:56:17 <steven> nodachi... i dunno if i spelled that right.
19:56:31 <steven> i did.
19:56:33 <Mekkis> can a scimitar be wielded in two hands for 1.5x str damage?
19:57:05 <steven> i believe so.
20:51:59 <Mekkis> hey
20:52:15 <Mekkis> Is there anything stopping you from Beast Shape II into a Swarm
21:15:41 <Mekkis> So, doing some touchups to my character sheet:
21:15:42 <Mekkis> \ifthenelse{\equal{\value{sizemod}}{-2}}{
21:15:42 <Mekkis> \textbf{CMB} $ \arabic{cmb} = \underbrace{\arabic{bab}}_{\mbox{\tiny BAB}} + \underbrace{\arabic{dexmod}}_{\mbox{\tiny DEX}} + \underbrace{\arabic{sizemod}}_{\mbox{\tiny SIZE}} + \underbrace{\arabic{cmbmisc}}_{\mbox{\tiny MISC}}$ \\}
21:15:42 <Mekkis> {
21:15:42 <Mekkis> \textbf{CMB} $ \arabic{cmb} = \underbrace{\arabic{bab}}_{\mbox{\tiny BAB}} + \underbrace{\arabic{strmod}}_{\mbox{\tiny STR}} + \underbrace{\arabic{sizemod}}_{\mbox{\tiny SIZE}} + \underbrace{\arabic{cmbmisc}}_{\mbox{\tiny MISC}}$ \\}
21:37:41 <Mekkis> steven, my spell list currently has:
21:39:52 <Mekkis> 6th Cold ice strike, True Seeing, Beast Shape IV
21:39:52 <Mekkis> 5th Feeblemind, Teleport, Summon Monster V, Truespeak, Wall of force, Beast Shape III, Echolocation
21:39:52 <Mekkis> 4th Acid Pit, Lesser Simulacrum, Phantasmal Killer, Scrying, Stone Skin, Symbol of Revelation, Arcane Eye, Named Bullet, Emergency Force Sphere, Infernal Healing, Greater, Dimension Door
21:39:52 <Mekkis> 3rd Blink, Displacement, Draconic Reservoir, Fireball, Fly, Haste, Lightning Bolt, Protection From Energy, Tongues, Greater Magic Weapon
21:39:52 <Mekkis> 2nd Alter Self, Bear’s Endurance, Blindness/Deafness, Bull’s strength, Create Pit, Dust of Twilight, False Life, Flaming Sphere, Glitterdust, Invisibility, Levitatie, Locate Object, Mirror Image, See Invisible, Spider Climb, Stone Call, Unnatural Lust
21:39:52 <Mekkis> 1st Alarm, Burning Hands, Charm Person, Comprehend Languages, Colour Spray, Detect charm, Disguise Self, Enlarge Person, Expeditious Retreat, Feather Fall, Flare Burst, Gravity Bow, Grease, Identify, Infernal Healing, Mage armor, Magic Missile, Obscuring Mist, Ray of Enfeeblement, Shield, Sleep, Spider Climb, True Strike, Blood Money, Liberating Command
21:40:01 <Mekkis> I always have issues choosing what to prepare
21:46:03 <steven> meh...
21:46:28 <steven> you have a very random selection of spells.
21:47:48 <Mekkis> yeah
21:47:56 <Mekkis> I'm thinking I should buy some more
21:49:37 <steven> are you a universalist or did you pick a school?
21:49:53 <steven> if you did, what are your opposition schools?
21:51:16 <Mekkis> Diviner
21:51:24 <Mekkis> Opposing Abjuration and Enchantment.
21:51:47 <Mekkis> Spell focuses in Conjuration and Illusion
21:52:40 <Mekkis> Possible prep is:
21:52:41 <Mekkis> 0 - Guidance, Detect Magic, Message, Acid Splash
21:52:41 <Mekkis> 1 - True Strikex2, Liberating Command, Grease, Magic Missile x2, Mage Armour
21:52:41 <Mekkis> 2 - See Invisibility, Mirror Image x2, Glitterdust x3, Invisibility, Misdirection
21:52:41 <Mekkis> 3 - Tongues, Haste x2, Fireball, Lightning Boltx2, Fly
21:52:41 <Mekkis> 4 - Quickened True Strike, Emergency Force Sphere, Phantasmal Killer, Acid Pit, <empty slot>
21:52:41 <Mekkis> 5 - Quickened True Strike, Summon Monster V, Echolocation, <2 empty slots>
21:52:41 <Mekkis> 6 - True Seeing, Cold ice strike x2, Beast Shape IV
21:52:58 <steven> other metamagic?
21:52:59 <Mekkis> I should probably buy more 5th level spells
21:53:03 <Mekkis> Just Quicken
21:53:24 <Mekkis> The Plan was to get a Staff of the Master. Hasn't happened yet.
21:53:40 <Mekkis> have lesser rods of merciful and reach
21:54:08 <steven> why quicken true strike, you dont havea nything requiring an attack roll.
21:54:58 <Mekkis> I have a companion who loves using disarm/steal with +20 to the roll
21:57:40 <steven> should look into magnetists gloves.
21:57:55 <steven> allows you to make a steal vs a metal item at 30ft.
21:58:43 <Mekkis> The delivery isn't an issue
21:59:21 <Mekkis> If you have any other suggestions as to what I should prepare in the 4th and 5th level Divination-only slots, I'm all ears
21:59:40 <steven> dunno still looking.
22:01:57 <steven> you have something that lets you put quicken on truestrike? cause 1(trustrike)+4(quicken)=5th
22:02:07 <Mekkis> yeah
22:02:10 <Mekkis> trait
22:02:40 <steven> cool.
22:02:51 <Mekkis> I prepare Named Bullet in those slots if there's an archer in the party
22:02:53 <Mekkis> Hmmm
22:03:16 <steven> i dunno.
22:03:41 <Mekkis> Could I use Alter Self with Share Spells to make my companion an humanoid, then give her a bow?
22:05:25 <steven> could prepare elemental body X and probably get better use.
22:05:36 <Mekkis> what elementals can use bows?
22:05:47 <steven> no i mean just having it beat the shit out of people.
22:06:03 <steven> huge size earth elemental is nothing to scoff at ya know.
22:06:07 <Mekkis> Then I give it some Named Bullets
22:06:25 <Mekkis> (In conjunction with Abundant Ammunition)
22:07:11 <Mekkis> also, elemental body 4 is 7th level
22:07:33 <steven> i dunno all the spells... I've got one wizard and its a necromancer.
22:08:34 <steven> one module away from 17 and a dc 35 mass suffocation.
22:08:45 <steven> that is persistant.
22:10:27 <steven> anyways.
22:10:37 <Mekkis> How about something like Shadow Evocation: It seems fun
22:10:42 <Mekkis> Or Phantasmal Web
22:12:46 <steven> Telepathic bond seems pretty useful for combat.
22:13:05 <Mekkis> !spell telepathic bond
22:13:06 <diebot> Mekkis, TELEPATHIC BOND divination ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5, witch 5, inquisitor 5 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) you plus one willing creature per three levels, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart Comp: V, S, M (two eggshells from two different creatures) Duration: 10 min./level Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG
22:13:06 <diebot> Core
22:13:07 <diebot> You forge a telepathic bond among yourself and a number of willing creatures, each of which must have an Intelligence score of 3 or higher. Each creature included in the link is linked to all the others. The creatures can communicate telepathically through the bond regardless of language. No special power or influence is established as a result of
22:13:07 <diebot> the bond. Once the bond is formed, it works over any distance (although not from one plane to another). If desired, you may leave yourself out of the telepathic bond forged. This decision must be made at the time of casting. Telepathic bond can be made permanent with a permanency spell, though it only bonds two creatures per casting of permanency.
22:14:01 <steven> devising elaborate battle plans, talking about how you plan on flat killing a guy after he gives you what you want.
22:14:48 <Mekkis> I wouldn't do that: I'm LAWFUL.
22:15:15 <Mekkis> Oh, in addition to the prepared spells, I have a Staff of Toxins and a Staff of Abjuration.
22:15:21 <steven> meh, lawful... chaos... all the same.
22:19:14 <Mekkis> Other spells I should consider learning?
22:19:42 <steven> Overland flight
22:19:55 <Mekkis> I suppose so...
22:20:07 <steven> hours/level flight... yup. pretty good.
22:21:47 <Mekkis> Any way for a wizard to get Greater Magic Fang?
22:23:35 <steven> UMD+Scroll
22:24:32 <Mekkis> ah. I'll pass
22:24:39 <Mekkis> !search Greater Magic Fang
22:24:55 <diebot> Mekkis, 17 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
22:25:21 <steven> you could polyporph your familiar and do the bow route w/ named bullet. i mean that is a solid strat i guess.
22:25:54 <Mekkis> Feels dirty
22:27:41 <steven> less dirty then the shadow-familiar.
22:28:05 <Mekkis> oh, shadow projection?
22:28:13 <Mekkis> I'll keep it in mind
22:34:31 <steven> im gonna go buy some stuff for my cleric.
22:35:25 <steven> next weekend we are going to play wardens of the reborn forge as the seeker arc
22:35:36 <Mekkis> tomorrow I'm playing Eyes
22:35:50 <steven> I'm not really looking forward to playing it with this character.
22:36:10 <steven> I'm a cleric of nethys in alkenstar and the mana wastes... where magic doesnt work right.
22:36:11 <steven> yay!
22:39:11 <steven> I have a rebuid boon.
22:45:26 <Mekkis> Oh
22:48:53 <Mekkis> I love how Paizo deletes their history
22:49:14 <steven> i love how paizo generates product.
22:50:01 <Mekkis> there was an APG FAQ in the first half of 2012, that I can't see,
22:51:39 <steven> may no longer be relevent
22:52:09 <Mekkis> It isn't, except for an historical note
22:56:41 <steven> balls...
22:57:01 <steven> !rand rebuild dealwithit
22:57:10 <steven> !rng rebuild dealwithit
22:57:10 <diebot> steven, rebuild
22:57:15 <steven> looks like im rebuilding.
23:18:16 <Mekkis> I've been writing this forum post for over an hour...
23:24:37 <Mekkis> I'm trying to come up with a civil way of saying: "Those who complain about the SLA ruling are a minority. The rest will either ignore it, content in the knowledge that noone checks chronicle sheet dates, or will do a 'don't ask, don't tell' rebuild."
23:32:30 <Mekkis> !hp 12d6m2
23:32:31 <diebot> Mekkis, 74
23:33:36 <steven> i dont think you should say that.
23:33:57 <Mekkis> I think someone needs to say it.
23:34:02 <Mekkis> I think it needs to be said.
23:35:53 <steven> it doesnt help the discussion at all.
23:36:35 <steven> all it really does is let people know in a subtle way they can take advantage of people's trust.
23:40:14 <Mekkis> steven, are there any people in your community who have Improved Unarmed Strike?
23:40:33 <steven> yup
23:40:54 <Mekkis> For no good reason?
23:41:14 <steven> i imagine at so.
23:41:46 <Mekkis> Specifically, because they got caught out when Crane Style was erratad?
23:42:50 <steven> dunno, when they came and bitched at me i pretended to listen
23:43:18 <steven> chances are i was thinking about what to have for dinner.
23:43:20 <Mekkis> did you audit them a couple of months later?
23:44:09 <steven> nope, i trust them not to be cheating douche bags.
23:44:35 <steven> i've done like 4 'surprise' audits in the last 2 years.
23:46:39 <steven> i've been considering an audit of one guy who was caught changing his dice roll from a 4 to a 17.
23:46:47 <Mekkis> I've GMed for a player who I KNEW was using an illegal item. I asked the VC for advice: he said he'd audit the character next time, but I haven't heard anything since then.
23:48:06 <steven> Perhaps he did. Nearly every VO I've talked to uses the model of Praise in Public, Punish in Private.
23:48:53 <steven> if he audited and found something wrong with the character, he probably asked the guy to fix it and then paid it no more mind.
23:51:05 <steven> last time i audited a character I 'found' an unused trait, feat, ability score increase and about 1k gold.
23:51:25 <steven> they were very happy
23:53:58 <Mekkis> This guy had a headband of wisdom +4 that was also a headband of positive channelling
23:55:06 <steven> well that would be a wicked sweet item.
23:57:46 <Mekkis> I'm glad I got to legally rebuild my mystic theurge...
23:58:48 <steven> im giving some serious thought into making this cleric a mystic theurge
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