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00:09:18 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:09:18 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Feb 22 23:01:30 2015
00:09:18 <***> Buffer Playback...
00:09:19 <***> Playback Complete.
00:09:36 <Mekkis> Avatar, I have played 5e: I've found it fun.
00:09:45 <Mekkis> Finished part 3 of Eyes!
00:12:06 <Steven> I really liked playing p3 of eyes.
00:12:17 <Steven> we did some really stupid stuff.
00:12:46 <Mekkis> I hit AH with a hellfire ray :P
00:12:54 <Steven> nice!
00:13:05 <Mekkis> failed his save after he died :S
00:13:40 <Mekkis> I am really having trouble finding 7th level spells to prep
00:15:01 <Mekkis> So far, my prep has been: Greater arcane sight, Quickened Haste, Limited Wish
00:16:10 <Steven> waves of ecstacy?
00:16:31 <Steven> ecstasy
00:16:42 <Mekkis> Trying to avoid enchantment and abjuration
00:16:48 <Steven> ah.
00:16:48 <Mekkis> banned school
00:17:47 <Steven> mages sword?
00:18:24 <Steven> its basically a spiritual weapon.
00:18:40 <Mekkis> what's the difference?
00:20:00 <Steven> 4d6+3 19-20/x2 vs 1d8+like 3-5 damge
00:20:09 <Steven> lasts rounds per level.
00:21:09 <Mekkis> oh. Fair enough then
00:21:19 <Steven> Resonating word isnt horrible vs single targets.
00:21:44 <Mekkis> !spell Joyful Rapture
00:21:45 <diebot> Mekkis, JOYFUL RAPTURE conjuration (healing[emotion]) bard 5, cleric/oracle 6, sorcerer/wizard 7 1 standard action Range: 60 ft. Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: no SR:yesSource: Ultimate Magic
00:21:46 <diebot> Your inspired words overwhelm others with transcendental bliss. All allies within the area of effect are freed from any harmful emotion effects. The spell also cures 1d4 points of Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma damage (your choice) to all allies in the area.
00:22:13 <Steven> 20d6 fort for half and negates the staggard/stun/stun effect over 3 rounds.
00:22:26 <Mekkis> !spell Resonating word
00:22:27 <diebot> Mekkis, RESONATING WORD transmutation ([sonic]) bard 5, sorcerer/wizard 7 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one creature Comp: V Duration: 3 rounds Save: Fortitude partial SR:yesSource: Ultimate Magic
00:22:28 <diebot> You speak a terrible word of power, setting up potentially lethal vibrations in the chosen target. The target must save once each round on your turn, and the effects grow stronger for each saving throw the creature fails. On the first round, the target takes 5d6 points of sonic damage and is staggered for 1 round. A successful save halves the
00:22:28 <diebot> damage and negates the staggered effect. On the second round, the target takes 5d6 points of damage and is stunned for 1 round. A successful save halves the damage and negates the stunning effect. On the third round, the target takes 10d6 points of damage and is stunned for 1d4+1 rounds. A successful save halves the damage and negates the stunning
00:22:28 <diebot> effect. The resonating word has no power after the third round, even if the spell's duration is increased.
00:22:56 <Mekkis> nice
00:24:02 <Steven> its not a horrible spell vs single targets.
00:24:21 <Mekkis> hmm I like the conditions
00:24:54 <Mekkis> I have Greater spell foci in illusion and conjuration
00:26:31 <Steven> hostile juxtaposition?
00:27:36 <Mekkis> hn
00:30:48 <Mekkis> is there a way to get a weapon that can change its size?
00:33:27 <Steven> i dont know of any.
00:41:09 <Avatar> shrink item
01:06:41 <Steven> i think im going to get extend and reach metamagic
01:10:32 <Steven> get magical lineage so i can do close range heal
01:32:39 <steven> hi hi
02:26:31 <Avatar> shaun tried to give my gunslinger a named bullet
02:26:39 <Avatar> really bad choice for a high level spell
02:26:42 <Avatar> gunslingers dont' need more damage
02:26:56 <Avatar> even my nerfed gunslinger doesn't need more damage
02:27:21 <steven2> sometimes a named bullet is awesome.
02:27:48 <Avatar> so are other 6th level sorcerer spells
02:27:51 <steven2> im building my level 12 cloistered Cleric into a Cloistered cleric 5/Pathfiner Savant 7
02:27:56 <Avatar> or 5th level
02:28:27 <steven2> well... really what is the difference between handing yoou a named bullet and casting ANY of the 5th level evocation spells?
02:28:58 <Avatar> it takes 2 people for the named bullet and 1 person for the evocation spells
02:29:14 <steven2> or casting haste giving everyone an extra attack, or hitting someone with a suffocation spell.
02:29:20 <steven2> the end result is the enemy dying.
02:29:39 <Avatar> I can't remember what he went with, but it was mountains better than named bullet when I was already doing huge damage
02:29:54 <steven2> maybe his way of having fun is handing you a bullet he magic'd up to do more damage.
02:32:49 <Avatar> he just has the mindset of more powah
02:33:06 <Avatar> he has an equal amount of fun playing to help the team
02:39:03 <mib_45efbi> hello
02:39:46 <steven2> well i recommend you go along with it.
02:49:16 Gamera has quit (Quit: )
03:01:23 <Mekkis> Avatar, ulzef: Finished eyes
03:05:47 <Avatar> niet
03:09:55 <Mekkis> !hp 5d6m5+8d6m4
03:09:56 <diebot> Mekkis, 111
03:12:45 <Mekkis> !spell Vision
03:12:48 <diebot> Mekkis, VISION divination ([]) sorcerer/wizard 7, witch 7, shaman 7 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (incense worth 250 gp), F (four pieces of ivory worth 50 gp each) Duration: see text Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
03:12:48 <diebot> This spell functions like legend lore, except that it works more quickly and produces some strain on you. You pose a question about some person, place, or object, then cast the spell. If the person or object is at hand or if you are in the place in question, you receive a vision about it by succeeding on a caster level check (1d20 + 1 per caster
03:12:48 <diebot> level; maximum +25) against DC 20. If only detailed information on the person, place, or object is known, the DC is 25, and the information gained is incomplete. If only rumors are known, the DC is 30, and the information gained is vague. After this spell is complete, you are fatigued.
03:12:54 <Mekkis> !spell greater arcane sight
03:12:55 <diebot> Mekkis, ARCANE SIGHT divination ([]) sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3, inquisitor 3, alchemist 3, magus 3 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
03:12:56 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/arcane_sight.html
03:13:15 <Mekkis> !spell arcane sight, greater
03:13:15 <diebot> Mekkis, ARCANE SIGHT, GREATER divination ([]) sorcerer/wizard 7, witch 7 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
03:13:16 <diebot> This spell functions like arcane sight, except that you automatically know which spells or magical effects are active upon any individual or object you see. Unlike arcane sight, this spell cannot be made permanent with a permanency spell.
03:19:01 <Steven> hey
03:32:00 <steven2> getting closer to finishing up my rebuild.
03:32:09 <Avatar> jealous
03:32:11 <steven2> i think i like it more... its definently got more utility.
03:32:42 <Avatar> Mekkis: why are you asking your VO for advice when you know he has an illegal item
03:33:12 <Avatar> who'd you play with
03:33:14 <Avatar> was he going to bash you up if you told him "that item is illegal, you can't use it"
03:33:51 <Mekkis> Murray, Phil, Bruce. Al Rigg was the GM
03:34:08 <Mekkis> part 1 was very challenging
03:40:40 <Avatar> did you play the whole series or just part 1
03:42:03 <Mekkis> whole series
03:42:21 <Avatar> was this at a con or what
03:42:36 <Avatar> I don't know who Murray Phil or Bruce are, but I know you don't live in the same place as Al Rigg
03:44:15 <Mekkis> it was at a con. Al Rigg came over. Phil Chappel is the new VC over here
03:44:33 <Avatar> what happened to the old VC
03:45:20 <Mekkis> sorry, VL
03:45:27 <Mekkis> not VC, but I'm hoping :S
03:48:58 <Avatar> dream on
03:52:42 <Mekkis> could happen: he's the only VO here who doesn't have a child under the age of 1.
04:06:55 <Mekkis> Hey
04:07:05 <Mekkis> Levelled to 13. Any good 7th level wizard spells?
04:09:11 <Steven> yes
04:10:07 <Steven> Finally gonna buy the Mask of a Thousand Tomes.
04:16:33 <steven> hey guys
04:18:50 <steven> [rant] If you come to a gameday and start talking about all the cool amazing characters you had in 3.5, sit down at my table and then dont know how power attack works. I am going to treat you like a dumb ass. Don't tout your system mastery if you dont have any! [/rant]
04:19:15 <steven> now its time to eat this delicious burger i bought.
04:19:29 <Mekkis> I won an ACG today!
04:24:45 <steven> WOOT WOOT
04:25:16 <steven> I beat the shit out of a summoner, dropping him unconcious 5 times in 1 scenario.
04:26:02 <steven> 3 attacks at level 1 w/ +5s to hit for 1d6+6 damage...
04:26:48 <steven> it felt fantastic.
04:32:24 <Brunius_> that one that does things
04:46:22 <Steven> Cleric w/ heroism... i think so.
04:49:13 <Steven> I really like how im now able to activate my magic items without using command words, makes my ring of invisibility much better incombat.
04:59:01 <Mekkis> One thing I can't fault my VC for is his ability to get con loot from Paizo.
05:05:16 <steven> just gotta put in the request forms.
05:13:56 <Mekkis> Avatar, DST?
05:14:06 <Avatar> what?
05:14:24 <Mekkis> Couldn't help noticing you were 'looking to play'
05:14:42 <Avatar> I only just dropped out of evolve
05:14:55 <Avatar> grab me for DST at about 7ish
05:15:25 <Mekkis> as in, not today?
05:15:41 <Avatar> yeah not today
05:15:43 <Avatar> bedtime soon
05:15:47 <Mekkis> mm
05:15:51 <Avatar> I might play some more evolve, but those are 10 minute rounds
05:15:53 <steven> dont do it avatar... thats when they get you.
05:15:55 <steven> when you're sleepin!
05:16:01 <Avatar> that's where you're wrong
05:16:06 <Avatar> sleep is the best in the world
05:16:46 <steven> yeah...
05:16:51 <steven> it is pretty awesome.
05:17:50 <steven> im still picking my rebuilt cleric's standard spell selection
05:19:55 <Avatar> 2- air step
05:20:04 <Avatar> 2- grace
05:20:06 <Steven> yeah brunius knows.
05:20:30 <Avatar> 3- lesser spellcrash
05:20:58 <Avatar> 3- delay poison, communal
05:21:06 <Avatar> 3- align weapon, communal
05:21:15 <steven> I've added Heighten Awareness to my Spell list, see invisibility, heroisim, dimension door
05:22:08 <steven> im going to keep scrolls of the remove condition spells.
05:22:26 <steven> since i cast them all as 11th level caster.
05:24:52 <steven> 1st level--1x entropic shield, 2x liberating command, 2x shield of faith
05:26:55 <Mekkis> Well, Limited Wish works.
05:27:28 <steven> limited wish rpetty good spell
05:29:11 <steven> 2nd level- 1xGrace, 1x Heightened Awareness, 2x Silence, 1x Weapon of Awe
05:30:08 <Mekkis> need to quicken that silence
05:30:53 <steven> I am going to have path of glory, so I'll be constantly using my swift action.
05:31:16 <steven> path of glory is such an awesome spell
05:32:03 <Mekkis> Limited Wish + blood money (and 15+ str) = free raise dead, right?
05:33:10 <steven> somethin like that
05:35:23 <steven> so far 37 scrolls on my cleric
05:35:31 <Mekkis> is that it?
05:36:01 <steven> so far... i have another 27k to spend on scrolls.
05:36:33 <Mekkis> miracle?
05:37:01 <steven> cant buy it till 17th level
05:38:15 <Mekkis> antimagic field?
05:38:47 <Mekkis> true seeing
05:38:49 <steven> domains spell.
05:39:00 <Mekkis> still on the list
05:39:17 <Mekkis> and you can still cast it without making a check if your CL is 11
05:39:24 <Mekkis> Restoration
05:40:01 <steven> right now im just writing in my 'standard' spell selection.
05:40:12 <Mekkis> oh, I was suggesting scrolls
05:42:35 <steven> I would like true seeing a bunch more if it was 10m/level
05:44:15 <Mekkis> We all would
05:44:21 <Mekkis> Greater Arcane Sight
05:45:27 <Steven> so many options w/ Esoteric Magic (Ex): At each class level beyond 1st, the Pathfinder savant chooses a spell from any class’s spell list and thereafter treats it as if it were on the spell list of his base spellcasting classes; if his base class could not normally cast that spell, it is treated as 1 level higher. The spell’s type (arcane or divine) and save DCs function as normal for his base spellcasting class.
05:45:27 <Steven> All other restrictions of his normal spellcasting class apply. This ability does not allow other spellcasters to prepare, cast, or use spell trigger or spell completion items of esoteric spells (such as a sorcerer using a cure light wounds scroll).
05:46:13 <steven> i think im just going to stick w/ see invisibility and if i need to know whats on a creature hit em with my rounds/level analyze dweomer
05:47:32 <steven> I auto identify 9th level spell effects.
05:47:43 <Steven> what are some great spells that you wish a cleric could have.
05:54:10 <Mekkis> The Plan was to get a Staff of the Master. Hasn't happened yet.
05:54:26 <Mekkis> have lesser rods of merciful and reach
05:54:53 <steven> why quicken true strike, you dont havea nything requiring an attack roll.
05:55:43 <Mekkis> I have a companion who loves using disarm/steal with +20 to the roll
05:58:25 <steven> should look into magnetists gloves.
05:58:40 <steven> allows you to make a steal vs a metal item at 30ft.
05:59:29 <Mekkis> The delivery isn't an issue
05:59:44 <steven> im gonna prep ghoul army lol
06:00:06 <Mekkis> If you have any other suggestions as to what I should prepare in the 4th and 5th level Divination-only slots, I'm all ears
06:00:25 <steven> dunno still looking.
06:01:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, Brunius, ulzef: are you interested in playing No Plunder, No Pay at Conquest?
06:02:42 <steven> you have something that lets you put quicken on truestrike? cause 1(trustrike)+4(quicken)=5th
06:02:52 <Mekkis> yeah
06:02:55 <Mekkis> trait
06:03:25 <steven> cool.
06:03:36 <Mekkis> I prepare Named Bullet in those slots if there's an archer in the party
06:03:38 <Mekkis> Hmmm
06:04:01 <steven> i dunno.
06:04:26 <Mekkis> Could I use Alter Self with Share Spells to make my companion an humanoid, then give her a bow?
06:06:10 <steven> could prepare elemental body X and probably get better use.
06:06:21 <Mekkis> what elementals can use bows?
06:06:32 <steven> no i mean just having it beat the shit out of people.
06:06:48 <steven> huge size earth elemental is nothing to scoff at ya know.
06:06:53 <Mekkis> Then I give it some Named Bullets
06:07:10 <Mekkis> (In conjunction with Abundant Ammunition)
06:07:57 <Mekkis> also, elemental body 4 is 7th level
06:08:18 <steven> i dunno all the spells... I've got one wizard and its a necromancer.
06:08:58 <Brunius> I'm not goin-oh, I might be
06:09:06 <Mekkis> oh?
06:09:19 <steven> one module away from 17 and a dc 35 mass suffocation.
06:09:30 <steven> that is persistant.
06:11:12 <steven> anyways.
06:11:22 <Mekkis> How about something like Shadow Evocation: It seems fun
06:11:27 <Mekkis> Or Phantasmal Web
06:13:31 <steven> Telepathic bond seems pretty useful for combat.
06:13:50 <Mekkis> !spell telepathic bond
06:13:51 <diebot> Mekkis, TELEPATHIC BOND divination ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5, witch 5, inquisitor 5 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) you plus one willing creature per three levels, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart Comp: V, S, M (two eggshells from two different creatures) Duration: 10 min./level Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG
06:13:51 <diebot> Core
06:13:51 <diebot> You forge a telepathic bond among yourself and a number of willing creatures, each of which must have an Intelligence score of 3 or higher. Each creature included in the link is linked to all the others. The creatures can communicate telepathically through the bond regardless of language. No special power or influence is established as a result of
06:13:51 <diebot> the bond. Once the bond is formed, it works over any distance (although not from one plane to another). If desired, you may leave yourself out of the telepathic bond forged. This decision must be made at the time of casting. Telepathic bond can be made permanent with a permanency spell, though it only bonds two creatures per casting of permanency.
06:14:46 <steven> devising elaborate battle plans, talking about how you plan on flat killing a guy after he gives you what you want.
06:15:33 <Mekkis> I wouldn't do that: I'm LAWFUL.
06:16:01 <Mekkis> Oh, in addition to the prepared spells, I have a Staff of Toxins and a Staff of Abjuration.
06:16:06 <steven> meh, lawful... chaos... all the same.
06:19:59 <Mekkis> Other spells I should consider learning?
06:20:27 <steven> Overland flight
06:20:40 <Mekkis> I suppose so...
06:20:52 <steven> hours/level flight... yup. pretty good.
06:22:33 <Mekkis> Any way for a wizard to get Greater Magic Fang?
06:24:20 <steven> UMD+Scroll
06:24:33 <Steven> Gonna get heroism for sure.
06:25:17 <Mekkis> ah. I'll pass
06:25:24 <Mekkis> !search Greater Magic Fang
06:25:40 <diebot> Mekkis, 17 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
06:26:06 <steven> you could polyporph your familiar and do the bow route w/ named bullet. i mean that is a solid strat i guess.
06:26:40 <Mekkis> Feels dirty
06:28:26 <steven> less dirty then the shadow-familiar.
06:28:50 <Mekkis> oh, shadow projection?
06:28:59 <Mekkis> I'll keep it in mind
06:35:16 <steven> im gonna go buy some stuff for my cleric.
06:36:10 <steven> next weekend we are going to play wardens of the reborn forge as the seeker arc
06:36:21 <Mekkis> tomorrow I'm playing Eyes
06:36:35 <steven> I'm not really looking forward to playing it with this character.
06:36:55 <steven> I'm a cleric of nethys in alkenstar and the mana wastes... where magic doesnt work right.
06:36:56 <steven> yay!
06:39:56 <steven> I have a rebuid boon.
06:44:29 <Steven> overland flight.
06:46:11 <Mekkis> Oh
06:49:39 <Mekkis> I love how Paizo deletes their history
06:49:59 <steven> i love how paizo generates product.
06:50:47 <Mekkis> there was an APG FAQ in the first half of 2012, that I can't see,
06:52:25 <steven> may no longer be relevent
06:52:55 <Mekkis> It isn't, except for an historical note
06:57:26 <steven> balls...
06:57:44 <steven> !rand rebuild dealwithit
06:57:55 <steven> !rng rebuild dealwithit
06:57:55 <diebot> steven, rebuild
06:58:00 <steven> looks like im rebuilding.
07:19:01 <Mekkis> I've been writing this forum post for over an hour...
07:25:23 <Mekkis> I'm trying to come up with a civil way of saying: "Those who complain about the SLA ruling are a minority. The rest will either ignore it, content in the knowledge that noone checks chronicle sheet dates, or will do a 'don't ask, don't tell' rebuild."
07:32:21 <Steven> time to buy scrolls.
07:33:15 <Mekkis> !hp 12d6m2
07:33:16 <diebot> Mekkis, 74
07:34:21 <steven> i dont think you should say that.
07:34:42 <Mekkis> I think someone needs to say it.
07:34:48 <Mekkis> I think it needs to be said.
07:36:15 <Avatar> there's a new player posting on the FB group and he sounds like a real life barbarian
07:36:38 <steven> it doesnt help the discussion at all.
07:37:20 <steven> all it really does is let people know in a subtle way they can take advantage of people's trust.
07:40:29 <Avatar> does anyone know if 5e actually turned out to be any good? I haven't heard any complaints, but I'm not sure if that's because now with pathfinder, nobody even cares to look
07:41:00 <Mekkis> steven, are there any people in your community who have Improved Unarmed Strike?
07:41:18 <steven> yup
07:41:39 <Mekkis> For no good reason?
07:41:59 <steven> i imagine at so.
07:42:11 <Avatar> oh wow, ashley signed up to play fate of the fiend online
07:42:32 <Mekkis> Specifically, because they got caught out when Crane Style was erratad?
07:43:35 <steven> dunno, when they came and bitched at me i pretended to listen
07:44:03 <steven> chances are i was thinking about what to have for dinner.
07:44:05 <Mekkis> did you audit them a couple of months later?
07:44:54 <steven> nope, i trust them not to be cheating douche bags.
07:45:20 <steven> i've done like 4 'surprise' audits in the last 2 years.
07:47:24 <steven> i've been considering an audit of one guy who was caught changing his dice roll from a 4 to a 17.
07:47:32 <Mekkis> I've GMed for a player who I KNEW was using an illegal item. I asked the VC for advice: he said he'd audit the character next time, but I haven't heard anything since then.
07:48:51 <steven> Perhaps he did. Nearly every VO I've talked to uses the model of Praise in Public, Punish in Private.
07:49:38 <steven> if he audited and found something wrong with the character, he probably asked the guy to fix it and then paid it no more mind.
07:49:54 <Steven> I've played 5e.
07:50:02 <Steven> it is an okay system.
07:50:26 <Steven> I'd rather play pathfinder but i wont turn down a 5e game
07:51:50 <steven> last time i audited a character I 'found' an unused trait, feat, ability score increase and about 1k gold.
07:52:10 <steven> they were very happy
07:52:35 <Steven> i seriously cant decide on what 3 feats to take.
07:54:44 <Mekkis> This guy had a headband of wisdom +4 that was also a headband of positive channelling
07:54:53 <Steven> for my cloistered cleric 5/pathfinder savant 7
07:55:34 <Avatar> heighten spell
07:55:42 <Avatar> everyone will love you for it
07:55:51 <steven> well that would be a wicked sweet item.
07:57:41 <Steven> oil of daylight.
07:58:14 <Avatar> an oil of daylight doesn't compare to never having to deal with any kind of darkness ever again
07:58:30 <Mekkis> How do magic items like efficient quivers work with size changes? Do they change size with the wearer?
07:58:32 <Mekkis> I'm glad I got to legally rebuild my mystic theurge...
07:58:40 <Avatar> and it's not just you
07:58:44 <Avatar> it's everyone you ever travel with
07:59:02 <Steven> I'm level 12. If I am handing out heightened continual flame there is something wrong with those characters.
07:59:33 <steven> im giving some serious thought into making this cleric a mystic theurge
08:03:16 <Avatar> that's not true
08:04:27 <steven> I think I'm going to rebuild to a Cleric5/exalted7
08:06:09 <Steven> It is not worth it in my opinion. I'd rather spend 750g on an oil of daylight then spend a feat to counter something that happens infrequently.
08:07:11 <Avatar> you're not a team player, I understand
08:07:43 <Steven> I'm a team player because i carry an oil of daylight.
08:08:49 <steven> or i could spend 49 pretige and do the same thing.
08:11:08 <Avatar> that doesn't help them on their next run though does it
08:14:55 <Steven> So i should sacrifice my characters feat slot to counter 1 spell? Basically their characters future problems are more important then my character?
08:16:03 <Steven> Sounds like those players are not being teamplayers since they are pushing their problems off on my character.
08:26:15 <Avatar> !item efficient quiver
08:26:15 <diebot> Avatar, EFFICIENT QUIVER [moderate conjuration] CL:9 none 1800gp, 2lb
08:26:16 <diebot> This appears to be a typical arrow container capable of holding about 20 arrows. It has three distinct portions, each with a nondimensional space allowing it to store far more than would normally be possible. The first and smallest one can contain up to 60 objects of the same general size and shape as an arrow. The second slightly longer
08:26:16 <diebot> compartment holds up to 18 objects of the same general size and shape as a javelin. The third and longest portion of the case contains as many as 6 objects of the same general size and shape as a bow (spears, staffs, or the like). Once the owner has filled it, the quiver can quickly produce any item she wishes that is within the quiver, as if from
08:26:16 <diebot> a regular quiver or scabbard. The efficient quiver weighs the same no matter what's placed inside it. Source: Ultimate Equipment
08:27:49 <Avatar> Armor and Weapon Sizes: Armor and weapons that are
08:27:49 <Avatar> found at random have a 30% chance of being Small (01–30),
08:27:50 <Avatar> a 60% chance of being Medium (31–90), and a 10% chance
08:27:50 <Avatar> of being any other size (91–100)
08:28:01 <Mekkis> Steven, What would you choose between clustered shots, many shot, improved precise shot or improved critical longbow, if you had to choose three
08:28:03 <Avatar> When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered,
08:28:03 <Avatar> most of the time size shouldn't be an issue. Many magic
08:28:03 <Avatar> garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust
08:28:03 <Avatar> themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep
08:28:03 <Avatar> characters of various kinds from using magic items
08:29:25 <steven> the real question is will i ever actually make a ratfolk.
08:30:09 <steven> currently it will be 2 years before i have enough scenarios to play to actually get him out of low levels
08:51:37 <Avatar> it's just one feat
08:51:40 <Avatar> they will help you in other ways
08:51:53 <Avatar> AND! it's a great pre-req for other feats
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08:56:59 <Steven> Which divine spells, that wont break invisibility, get a big power boost from being heightened?
08:57:38 <Avatar> dismissal?
08:57:57 <Steven> dismissal breaks invisibility
08:58:15 <Avatar> scrying?
08:58:52 <Avatar> I only took heighten spell because I wanted preferred spell
08:58:59 <Avatar> preferred spell is f.amazing
08:59:47 <Steven> i agree, i use it on my wizard.
09:00:40 <Steven> just so you know avatar, pathfinder savants use scrolls.
09:01:19 <Steven> they activate scrolls at their caster level if its higher then the scrolls.
09:02:14 <Steven> i considered getting cypher magic, but it doesnt let me do my CL+2 while activating scrolls... so not particularly great.
09:10:25 <Mekkis> Avatar, I have played 5e: I've found it fun.
09:10:33 <Mekkis> Finished part 3 of Eyes!
09:12:53 <Steven> I really liked playing p3 of eyes.
09:13:04 <Steven> we did some really stupid stuff.
09:13:33 <Mekkis> I hit AH with a hellfire ray :P
09:13:41 <Steven> nice!
09:13:53 <Mekkis> failed his save after he died :S
09:14:28 <Mekkis> I am really having trouble finding 7th level spells to prep
09:15:49 <Mekkis> So far, my prep has been: Greater arcane sight, Quickened Haste, Limited Wish
09:16:57 <Steven> waves of ecstacy?
09:17:18 <Steven> ecstasy
09:17:30 <Mekkis> Trying to avoid enchantment and abjuration
09:17:35 <Steven> ah.
09:17:36 <Mekkis> banned school
09:18:34 <Steven> mages sword?
09:19:11 <Steven> its basically a spiritual weapon.
09:19:27 <Mekkis> what's the difference?
09:20:47 <Steven> 4d6+3 19-20/x2 vs 1d8+like 3-5 damge
09:20:56 <Steven> lasts rounds per level.
09:21:57 <Mekkis> oh. Fair enough then
09:22:06 <Steven> Resonating word isnt horrible vs single targets.
09:22:32 <Mekkis> !spell Joyful Rapture
09:22:32 <diebot> Mekkis, JOYFUL RAPTURE conjuration (healing[emotion]) bard 5, cleric/oracle 6, sorcerer/wizard 7 1 standard action Range: 60 ft. Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: no SR:yesSource: Ultimate Magic
09:22:33 <diebot> Your inspired words overwhelm others with transcendental bliss. All allies within the area of effect are freed from any harmful emotion effects. The spell also cures 1d4 points of Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma damage (your choice) to all allies in the area.
09:23:00 <Steven> 20d6 fort for half and negates the staggard/stun/stun effect over 3 rounds.
09:23:14 <Mekkis> !spell Resonating word
09:23:14 <diebot> Mekkis, RESONATING WORD transmutation ([sonic]) bard 5, sorcerer/wizard 7 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one creature Comp: V Duration: 3 rounds Save: Fortitude partial SR:yesSource: Ultimate Magic
09:23:15 <diebot> You speak a terrible word of power, setting up potentially lethal vibrations in the chosen target. The target must save once each round on your turn, and the effects grow stronger for each saving throw the creature fails. On the first round, the target takes 5d6 points of sonic damage and is staggered for 1 round. A successful save halves the
09:23:15 <diebot> damage and negates the staggered effect. On the second round, the target takes 5d6 points of damage and is stunned for 1 round. A successful save halves the damage and negates the stunning effect. On the third round, the target takes 10d6 points of damage and is stunned for 1d4+1 rounds. A successful save halves the damage and negates the stunning
09:23:15 <diebot> effect. The resonating word has no power after the third round, even if the spell's duration is increased.
09:23:43 <Mekkis> nice
09:24:49 <Steven> its not a horrible spell vs single targets.
09:25:08 <Mekkis> hmm I like the conditions
09:25:42 <Mekkis> I have Greater spell foci in illusion and conjuration
09:27:18 <Steven> hostile juxtaposition?
09:28:23 <Mekkis> hn
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09:31:35 <Mekkis> is there a way to get a weapon that can change its size?
09:33:30 <Mekkis> !spell arcane eye
09:33:43 <diebot> Mekkis, ARCANE EYE divination (scrying[]) sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4, alchemist 4 10 minutes Range: unlimited Comp: V, S, M (a bit of bat fur) Duration: 1 min./level Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
09:33:44 <diebot> You create an invisible magical sensor that sends you visual information. You can create the arcane eye at any point you can see, but it can then travel outside your line of sight without hindrance. An arcane eye travels at 30 feet per round (300 feet per minute) if viewing an area ahead as a human would (primarily looking at the floor) or 10 feet
09:33:44 <diebot> per round (100 feet per minute) if examining the ceiling and walls as well as the floor ahead. It sees exactly as you would see if you were there. The eye can travel in any direction as long as the spell lasts. Solid barriers block its passage, but it can pass through a hole or space as small as 1 inch in diameter. The eye can't enter another plane
09:33:44 <diebot> of existence, even through a gate or similar magical portal. You must concentrate to use an arcane eye. If you do not concentrate, the eye is inert until you again concentrate.
09:34:14 <Steven> i dont know of any.
09:41:56 <Avatar> shrink item
10:07:28 <Steven> i think im going to get extend and reach metamagic
10:11:19 <Steven> get magical lineage so i can do close range heal
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10:19:08 <Mekkis> Avatar, what's changed is that Defunct is using a bow.
10:19:59 <Mekkis> When under the effect of Alter Self. So what I'm trying is to give Defunct an efficient quiver, with a longbow in it.
10:21:35 <Steven> man i love pie.
10:33:37 <Avatar> isn't defunct an animal
10:33:45 <Mekkis> Sure
10:33:53 <Mekkis> Defunct is a lot of things
10:34:11 <Avatar> !spell alter self
10:34:12 <diebot> Avatar, ALTER SELF transmutation (polymorph[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, witch 2, summoner 2, alchemist 2, magus 2, shaman 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (a piece of the creature whose form you plan to assume) Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
10:34:12 <diebot> When you cast this spell, you can assume the form of any Small or Medium creature of the humanoid type. If the form you assume has any of the following abilities, you gain the listed ability: darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, scent, and swim 30 feet. Small creature: If the form you take is that of a Small humanoid, you gain a +2 size bonus to
10:34:12 <diebot> your Dexterity. Medium creature: If the form you take is that of a Medium humanoid, you gain a +2 size bonus to your Strength.
10:34:26 <Avatar> alter self doesn't let you use weapons when you couldn't before
10:34:51 <Avatar> I think steven was talking about using some other spell to do what you're talking about
10:34:51 <Avatar> elemental body or something?
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16:59:18 <Mekkis> How do magic items like efficient quivers work with size changes? Do they change size with the wearer?
17:27:02 <Avatar> !item efficient quiver
17:27:03 <diebot> Avatar, EFFICIENT QUIVER [moderate conjuration] CL:9 none 1800gp, 2lb
17:27:03 <diebot> This appears to be a typical arrow container capable of holding about 20 arrows. It has three distinct portions, each with a nondimensional space allowing it to store far more than would normally be possible. The first and smallest one can contain up to 60 objects of the same general size and shape as an arrow. The second slightly longer
17:27:03 <diebot> compartment holds up to 18 objects of the same general size and shape as a javelin. The third and longest portion of the case contains as many as 6 objects of the same general size and shape as a bow (spears, staffs, or the like). Once the owner has filled it, the quiver can quickly produce any item she wishes that is within the quiver, as if from
17:27:03 <diebot> a regular quiver or scabbard. The efficient quiver weighs the same no matter what's placed inside it. Source: Ultimate Equipment
17:28:36 <Avatar> Armor and Weapon Sizes: Armor and weapons that are
17:28:37 <Avatar> found at random have a 30% chance of being Small (01–30),
17:28:37 <Avatar> a 60% chance of being Medium (31–90), and a 10% chance
17:28:37 <Avatar> of being any other size (91–100)
17:28:50 <Avatar> When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered,
17:28:50 <Avatar> most of the time size shouldn't be an issue. Many magic
17:28:50 <Avatar> garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust
17:28:50 <Avatar> themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep
17:28:50 <Avatar> characters of various kinds from using magic items
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18:00:35 <Mekkis> Avatar, ulzef: Finished eyes
18:32:24 <Avatar> who'd you play with
18:33:03 <Mekkis> Murray, Phil, Bruce. Al Rigg was the GM
18:33:20 <Mekkis> part 1 was very challenging
18:39:52 <Avatar> did you play the whole series or just part 1
18:41:15 <Mekkis> whole series
18:41:33 <Avatar> was this at a con or what
18:41:48 <Avatar> I don't know who Murray Phil or Bruce are, but I know you don't live in the same place as Al Rigg
18:43:27 <Mekkis> it was at a con. Al Rigg came over. Phil Chappel is the new VC over here
18:43:45 <Avatar> what happened to the old VC
18:44:32 <Mekkis> sorry, VL
18:44:39 <Mekkis> not VC, but I'm hoping :S
18:48:10 <Avatar> dream on
18:51:54 <Mekkis> could happen: he's the only VO here who doesn't have a child under the age of 1.
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19:15:45 <steven> hey guys
19:18:02 <steven> [rant] If you come to a gameday and start talking about all the cool amazing characters you had in 3.5, sit down at my table and then dont know how power attack works. I am going to treat you like a dumb ass. Don't tout your system mastery if you dont have any! [/rant]
19:18:27 <steven> now its time to eat this delicious burger i bought.
19:18:41 <Mekkis> I won an ACG today!
19:19:56 <Mekkis> Avatar, what's changed is that Defunct is using a bow.
19:20:46 <Mekkis> When under the effect of Alter Self. So what I'm trying is to give Defunct an efficient quiver, with a longbow in it.
19:22:22 <Steven> man i love pie.
19:23:57 <steven> WOOT WOOT
19:24:28 <steven> I beat the shit out of a summoner, dropping him unconcious 5 times in 1 scenario.
19:25:15 <steven> 3 attacks at level 1 w/ +5s to hit for 1d6+6 damage...
19:26:00 <steven> it felt fantastic.
19:34:25 <Avatar> isn't defunct an animal
19:34:33 <Mekkis> Sure
19:34:41 <Mekkis> Defunct is a lot of things
19:34:58 <Avatar> !spell alter self
19:34:58 <diebot> Avatar, ALTER SELF transmutation (polymorph[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, witch 2, summoner 2, alchemist 2, magus 2, shaman 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (a piece of the creature whose form you plan to assume) Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
19:34:59 <diebot> When you cast this spell, you can assume the form of any Small or Medium creature of the humanoid type. If the form you assume has any of the following abilities, you gain the listed ability: darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, scent, and swim 30 feet. Small creature: If the form you take is that of a Small humanoid, you gain a +2 size bonus to
19:34:59 <diebot> your Dexterity. Medium creature: If the form you take is that of a Medium humanoid, you gain a +2 size bonus to your Strength.
19:35:14 <Avatar> alter self doesn't let you use weapons when you couldn't before
19:35:35 <Avatar> I think steven was talking about using some other spell to do what you're talking about
19:35:38 <Avatar> elemental body or something?
19:58:13 <Mekkis> One thing I can't fault my VC for is his ability to get con loot from Paizo.
20:04:29 <steven> just gotta put in the request forms.
20:13:08 <Mekkis> Avatar, DST?
20:13:18 <Avatar> what?
20:13:36 <Mekkis> Couldn't help noticing you were 'looking to play'
20:13:54 <Avatar> I only just dropped out of evolve
20:14:07 <Avatar> grab me for DST at about 7ish
20:14:37 <Mekkis> as in, not today?
20:14:53 <Avatar> yeah not today
20:14:56 <Avatar> bedtime soon
20:14:58 <Mekkis> mm
20:15:03 <Avatar> I might play some more evolve, but those are 10 minute rounds
20:15:05 <steven> dont do it avatar... thats when they get you.
20:15:08 <steven> when you're sleepin!
20:15:14 <Avatar> that's where you're wrong
20:15:18 <Avatar> sleep is the best in the world
20:15:58 <steven> yeah...
20:16:03 <steven> it is pretty awesome.
20:17:02 <steven> im still picking my rebuilt cleric's standard spell selection
20:19:07 <Avatar> 2- air step
20:19:16 <Avatar> 2- grace
20:19:43 <Avatar> 3- lesser spellcrash
20:20:10 <Avatar> 3- delay poison, communal
20:20:18 <Avatar> 3- align weapon, communal
20:20:28 <steven> I've added Heighten Awareness to my Spell list, see invisibility, heroisim, dimension door
20:21:20 <steven> im going to keep scrolls of the remove condition spells.
20:21:38 <steven> since i cast them all as 11th level caster.
20:24:04 <steven> 1st level--1x entropic shield, 2x liberating command, 2x shield of faith
20:26:07 <Mekkis> Well, Limited Wish works.
20:26:41 <steven> limited wish rpetty good spell
20:28:23 <steven> 2nd level- 1xGrace, 1x Heightened Awareness, 2x Silence, 1x Weapon of Awe
20:29:20 <Mekkis> need to quicken that silence
20:30:05 <steven> I am going to have path of glory, so I'll be constantly using my swift action.
20:30:28 <steven> path of glory is such an awesome spell
20:31:15 <Mekkis> Limited Wish + blood money (and 15+ str) = free raise dead, right?
20:32:22 <steven> somethin like that
20:34:35 <steven> so far 37 scrolls on my cleric
20:34:43 <Mekkis> is that it?
20:35:13 <steven> so far... i have another 27k to spend on scrolls.
20:35:45 <Mekkis> miracle?
20:36:13 <steven> cant buy it till 17th level
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20:37:27 <Mekkis> antimagic field?
20:37:58 <Mekkis> true seeing
20:38:02 <steven> domains spell.
20:38:12 <Mekkis> still on the list
20:38:29 <Mekkis> and you can still cast it without making a check if your CL is 11
20:38:36 <Mekkis> Restoration
20:39:13 <steven> right now im just writing in my 'standard' spell selection.
20:39:24 <Mekkis> oh, I was suggesting scrolls
20:41:47 <steven> I would like true seeing a bunch more if it was 10m/level
20:43:27 <Mekkis> We all would
20:43:33 <Mekkis> Greater Arcane Sight
20:45:25 <steven> i think im just going to stick w/ see invisibility and if i need to know whats on a creature hit em with my rounds/level analyze dweomer
20:46:44 <steven> I auto identify 9th level spell effects.
20:58:56 <steven> im gonna prep ghoul army lol
21:00:31 <Mekkis> Avatar, Brunius, ulzef: are you interested in playing No Plunder, No Pay at Conquest?
21:08:10 <Brunius> I'm not goin-oh, I might be
21:08:18 <Mekkis> oh?
21:27:27 <Avatar> the story doesn't hold up mek
21:27:36 <Avatar> animals just can't fight
21:27:48 <Avatar> if suddenly he starts fighting what will people think ?
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21:28:02 <Mekkis> how is uni treating you, Brunius ?
21:30:48 <Brunius> eh
21:31:23 <Mekkis> ya
21:40:24 <BennyG> gday
22:08:03 <Avatar> yo
22:15:36 <BennyG> hiya
22:24:05 <steven> back.
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