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01:23:55 <Avatar> GM won't stop rolling high saves to my hexes :(
01:59:04 <Mekkis> maybe your hexes annoy the GM
02:06:26 <Avatar> they can't, they aren't working
02:06:44 <Mekkis> sure they can. Some GMs hate hexes
02:16:05 <Avatar> this GM is pretty lax
02:16:23 <Avatar> the only overpower going on is healing, and even that's not covering us terribly well
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02:58:54 <Mekkis> what game are you playing?
02:59:04 <Avatar> fate
02:59:24 <Mekkis> of the fiend?
02:59:25 <Mekkis> ah
02:59:27 <Mekkis> fun fun fun
03:08:44 <Avatar> just finished
03:08:51 <Avatar> 6 hour game I think
03:08:58 <Avatar> or 6.5
03:09:02 <Avatar> I lost track as to when we started
03:09:08 <Avatar> dumb timezones
03:09:17 <Avatar> and sites that don't convert times automatically when you log in
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03:54:11 <Mekkis> should just always show it as UTC
03:54:29 <Mekkis> When does DST end?
04:59:02 <Avatar> 5/4
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05:33:54 <steven> Primal magic sucks...
05:34:24 <steven> mostly when your GM is being far to liberal with primal magic events.
05:35:14 <steven> and changing the rules so its more difficult to use items...
05:35:21 <steven> seriously... it really sucks.
05:36:58 <steven> my ring of invisibility which should have a 50% change to trigger a primal magic event, followed by a concentration check DC=15+Double spell level, if i fail then it triggers a primal magic event now just triggers a primal magic event 50% of the time.
05:38:16 <steven> just ha ha get fucked... your 20k magic item is useless... and your 54k in scrolls also have a 50% chance not to work and instead trigger a primal magic event...
05:38:30 <steven> my build is literally worthless right now.
05:43:30 <Mekkis> steven, you know how to handle that, right?
05:43:58 <Mekkis> just keep activating the ring each round
05:44:49 <steven> nah... last time i failed the check because i NEEDED to cast a heal spell.
05:45:16 <Mekkis> just keep activating the ring each round
05:45:17 <steven> on a roll of a 1... GM star reroll with +5 bonus... roll a 1.
05:45:28 <steven> summoned 2 CR14 creatures.
05:45:40 <steven> which immediately attacked us.
05:45:55 <Mekkis> is this PFS?!
05:46:09 <steven> yuuuuuuup
05:46:28 <Mekkis> with primal magic?
05:46:34 <steven> this module makes use of the Primal Magic rules out of Inner sea Magic.
05:46:38 <Mekkis> ah
05:46:52 <Mekkis> and the GM is doing it wrong?
05:47:10 <steven> yeah, didnt know it at the time because i printed out my chronicle sheet.
05:47:18 <steven> so wasnt usin my laptop.
05:47:30 <steven> obviously i mean character
05:49:04 <steven> so yeah... gonna have to rehash this because its not fun to have every spell with the possibility to do stupid shit.
05:49:16 <steven> like in a mana storm... yeah sure. every spell should have that chance.
05:49:43 <steven> but if we're roaming around in the mana wastes every spell we cast shouldnt have the possibility of blowing up in our face ya kmnow.
05:51:56 <steven> like oh hey you cast cure light wounds from a wand... 50% chance to trigger... fail... nat 20 on CR determinination... a 40 on the d100 to determine effect... excellent 20 creatures in the area get hit with the Harm spell.
05:54:25 <Mekkis> why are you rolling the d20 for CR? That's only for naturally occuring ones
05:54:50 <steven> thats what we were told.
05:55:42 <steven> I of course went and reread the rules because if this is how the game is going to be played i wouldnt have brought my Cloistered Cleric/Pathfinder Savant... who is basically a wand/scroll master.
05:55:51 <Mekkis> When the effect occurs, you need to determine the CR
05:55:51 <Mekkis> of the event. If the event is triggered by a spellcaster or
05:55:51 <Mekkis> a magic item, the event’s CR is equal to the spellcaster’s
05:55:51 <Mekkis> or item’s caster level. When an event occurs naturally,
05:55:51 <Mekkis> you can roll 1d20 to determine the CR.
05:57:36 <steven> yeah, im messaging him right now, because im not gonna play this with this character, I'd bring a Martial
06:08:29 <Mekkis> someone has to bring a spellcaster to the mana wastes
06:09:18 <steven> yeah... but not a spellcaster whos primary mechanic is using spell completion and spell trigger items.
06:09:45 <steven> because 50% of the time the effect is replaced by a primal magic event.
06:12:31 <steven> and so far every primal magic has been negative.
06:14:40 <Mekkis> but the CL is so low, right?
06:16:27 <steven> i activate my scrolls at my CL
06:23:04 <steven> it is a really debilitating mechanic for someone who spent the bulk of their character wealth on spell completion items.
06:25:07 <Mekkis> why aren't you getting a concentration check?
06:26:05 <steven> in an adventure path there is a spot that has a mechanic that is a dc 17 will save, if you fail you become paranoid and cannot benefit from aid another, healing, anything like that.
06:26:44 <steven> we had a player thats entire gimick was bodyguarding, in harms way, aid another on attacks.
06:26:54 <steven> basically made everyone just be better.
06:27:27 <steven> walks into the place... fails will save... character build completely shut down for an entire book of the adventure path.
06:28:07 <steven> i dunno why mekkis, i think its just a mistake or an oversight.
06:28:28 <steven> warden of the reborn forge has 12 source books.
06:28:39 <steven> thats just fuckin insane imo.
06:29:53 <Mekkis> agreed
07:19:02 <Avatar> just play online lol.
08:40:13 <Mekkis> Take up the Chelish burden, Call forth the best ye breed
08:40:13 <Mekkis> And bind them into service, to serve your captives' need
08:40:13 <Mekkis> To wait in heavy harness, On fluttered folk and wild--
08:40:13 <Mekkis> Your new-caught, sullen peoples, Half-demon and half-child.
08:40:14 <Mekkis> And bind them into service, to serve your captives' need
08:40:16 <Mekkis> To wait in heavy harness, On fluttered folk and wild--
08:40:18 <Mekkis> Your new-caught, sullen peoples, Half-demon and half-child.
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10:37:01 <Avatar> what is a faction-specific prestige award
10:37:58 <Avatar> is that the field guide awards
10:40:45 <Mekkis> PFS or pathfinder?
10:41:11 <Avatar> PFS
10:42:42 <Avatar> the PFS guide only has faction traits, not prestige awards
10:42:48 <Avatar> not sure if there are any listed anywhere else?
10:43:04 <Avatar> can't find any in the PFS primer, not much about factions in there at all
10:45:39 <Mekkis> you sure it isn't non-pfs?
10:47:00 <Avatar> "another active faction" is the exact words
10:47:12 <Avatar> are there other pathfinder factions that are active in PFS
10:47:21 <Avatar> are there prestige awards for the aspis consortium
10:51:24 <Mekkis> oh
10:51:26 <Mekkis> that boon
10:51:40 <Mekkis> didn't think you were cheliax
10:51:59 <Avatar> Snickers is a natural with the dark archives
10:52:02 <Mekkis> basically, anything in the Factions section of the Field Guide
10:52:15 <Avatar> seems like a bit of a dumb boon
10:53:07 <Mekkis> Ever wanted to be both a hellknight and a eagle knight?
10:53:42 <Avatar> Snickers is a bluffer, not a diplomaciser
10:54:08 <Mekkis> Snickers dumped wisdom and strength, right?
10:54:21 <Avatar> yeah
10:54:30 <Mekkis> I can see the wisdom dumping
10:54:32 <Avatar> 8 wis
10:54:41 <Avatar> it's in character!
10:55:04 <Mekkis> What level is she now?
10:59:05 <Mekkis> She could become a Lion Blade!
10:59:22 <Mekkis> or a baroness
10:59:36 <Avatar> 10
11:00:00 <Mekkis> ?
11:00:02 <Mekkis> ah
11:00:10 <Avatar> I think tiller looks like the best one so far, but even that's dumb
11:00:16 <Mekkis> it is dumb
11:00:46 <Mekkis> get a Shining Wayfinder
11:00:49 <Mekkis> :)
11:00:58 <Avatar> holy shit, can I
11:01:05 <Avatar> where is that
11:01:19 <Mekkis> Silver crusade
11:01:36 <Mekkis> Beacon of Good (Fame 5, 2 PP) The
11:01:36 <Mekkis> Shining Crusade gives you a shining wayfinder (see page
11:01:36 <Mekkis> 55) emblazoned with the emblem of a silver dragon. If you
11:01:36 <Mekkis> lose your shining wayfinder, you can purchase a new one
11:01:36 <Mekkis> for an additional 2 PP. Members of the Silver Crusade
11:01:36 <Mekkis> who are caught selling shining wayfinders for their own
11:01:36 <Mekkis> prof it are exiled, and must switch factions.
11:01:58 <Avatar> that's just a regular bloody wayfinder
11:02:08 <Avatar> I think I already have one with a decemvirate seal on it
11:02:18 <Mekkis> it can detect evil!
11:02:27 <Avatar> oh
11:02:33 <Mekkis> and Protection from Evil!
11:02:36 <Avatar> maybe I should see page 55
11:02:40 <Mekkis> :P
11:02:49 <Mekkis> !item shining wayfinder
11:02:51 <diebot> Mekkis, SHINING WAYFINDER [faint divination] CL:3 none 2000gp, 1lb
11:02:51 <diebot> A shining wayfinder is a polished silver compass favored by members of the Shining Crusade. In addition to the usual functions of a wayfinder (including the ability to create light), a shining wayfinder can be used to cast detect evil-when so used, its needle points not to the north but rather to the nearest source of evil within 60 feet. Once per
11:02:51 <diebot> day, a shining wayfinder can be used to cast protection from evil upon the wayfinder's bearer. A shining wayfinder functions only for a creature that is good-aligned. When held by an evil creature, the shining wayfinder's needle spins in a frantic circle. When held by any creature that is both nonevil and nongood, the needle simply hangs limply,
11:02:51 <diebot> not pointing to anything at all (not even to true north). Source: Pathfinder Society Field Guide
11:03:20 <Avatar> that is probably the only decent award in there
11:03:32 <Avatar> unless you want to make something a class skill, I guess, but they're all terrible for spellcasters
11:04:03 <Mekkis> knowledge local isn't
11:04:31 <Avatar> yeah that one is decent
11:05:17 <Mekkis> diplomacy isn't
11:05:24 <Avatar> beacon of good completely contradicts Snickers' personality
11:05:33 <Avatar> but this is effectively a stolen boon so that works wonders
11:05:43 <Avatar> suckit s.crusade
11:05:51 <Avatar> I'll show them
11:06:05 <Avatar> what are they gonna do, exile me from their faction? ha!
11:06:08 <Mekkis> have they got the conquest schedule up?
11:06:19 <Avatar> hardly anything's been organised
11:06:25 <Avatar> GMs are talking scenario preferences
11:06:35 <Avatar> it's unlikely to go up until about a week beforehand
11:06:51 <Mekkis> Am I able to request a scenario?
11:07:03 <Avatar> yes, we're sort of begging for requests
11:07:21 <Mekkis> Ooh
11:07:25 <Mekkis> Kortos Envoy!
11:08:32 <Mekkis> Where Mammoths Dare Not Tread
11:11:05 <Mekkis> if they want me to run The Slave Master's Mirror, say so.
11:11:47 <Avatar> someone's volunteered slave master's mirror
11:12:12 <Mekkis> let me guess who it is
11:12:18 <Mekkis> The VL from Adelaide?
11:12:58 <Avatar> who's that
11:13:01 <Avatar> callum?
11:13:38 <Mekkis> yeah
11:20:29 <Avatar> can't find it now
11:21:09 <Avatar> ah it's mark platt
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15:50:30 <Mekkis> good scenario?
16:04:57 <Avatar> which scenario
16:05:43 <Mekkis> The one Steven1 played
16:07:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, you shouldn't be too worried about metadata retention, as long as it's actually stored in Australia
16:07:58 <Avatar> yeah I meant what was it
16:08:05 <Avatar> what are you talking about with metadata retention
16:08:20 <Mekkis> Looked at your facebook
16:15:53 <Avatar> I dunno
16:15:57 <Avatar> slippery slope I think
16:33:33 <Mekkis> Avatar, the use is to be governed by the Telecommunications Intercept Act. I suggest you read up on it.
16:34:04 <Avatar> why
16:34:19 <Mekkis> because its really restrictive.
16:46:38 <Avatar> this sounds a bit like you wrote it
17:00:03 <Mekkis> me as in?
17:01:34 <Avatar> you mr mekkis
18:24:46 <Mekkis> nope
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18:55:29 <Mekkis> Ballig?!
18:55:35 <Mekkis> Activity from Ballig?
19:17:31 <Mekkis> Here's a question: Nature vs Nurture when it comes to chromatic dragons
19:37:54 <Avatar> what is a faction-specific prestige award
19:38:51 <Avatar> is that the field guide awards
19:40:17 <Mekkis> defensively cast Dimension Door?
19:40:35 <Mekkis> have you got a 'Get out of grapple free" item yet?
19:41:24 <Avatar> unfettered shirt
19:41:38 <Mekkis> PFS or pathfinder?
19:42:04 <Avatar> PFS
19:43:35 <Avatar> the PFS guide only has faction traits, not prestige awards
19:43:41 <Avatar> not sure if there are any listed anywhere else?
19:43:57 <Avatar> can't find any in the PFS primer, not much about factions in there at all
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19:46:32 <Mekkis> you sure it isn't non-pfs?
19:47:53 <Avatar> "another active faction" is the exact words
19:48:04 <Avatar> are there other pathfinder factions that are active in PFS
19:48:07 <Avatar> that isn't a question
19:48:14 <Avatar> are there prestige awards for the aspis consortium
19:49:04 <Mekkis> is there any information about what happens regarding Nature vs Nurture when it comes to chromatic dragons¿
19:49:17 <Avatar> can you be more specific
19:50:50 <Mekkis> is a black dragon, just hatched, inherently evil?
19:51:15 <Avatar> yeah
19:51:47 <Avatar> like their alignment is evil
19:51:54 <Avatar> that doesn't mean they are going to do evil things 100% of the time
19:52:01 <Avatar> any more than a paladin will stay on the good side 100% of the time
19:52:17 <Mekkis> oh
19:52:20 <Mekkis> that boon
19:52:34 <Mekkis> didn't think you were cheliax
19:52:52 <Avatar> Snickers is a natural with the dark archives
19:52:56 <Mekkis> basically, anything in the Factions section of the Field Guide
19:53:08 <Avatar> seems like a bit of a dumb boon
19:54:01 <Mekkis> Ever wanted to be both a hellknight and a eagle knight?
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19:54:35 <Avatar> Snickers is a bluffer, not a diplomaciser
19:55:01 <Mekkis> Snickers dumped wisdom and strength, right?
19:55:14 <Avatar> yeah
19:55:23 <Mekkis> I can see the wisdom dumping
19:55:25 <Avatar> 8 wis
19:55:34 <Avatar> it's in character!
19:55:57 <Mekkis> What level is she now?
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19:59:45 <Mekkis> did you see the magical wrist sheath in the ACG?
19:59:58 <Mekkis> She could become a Lion Blade!
20:00:15 <Mekkis> or a baroness
20:00:29 <Avatar> 10
20:00:53 <Mekkis> ?
20:00:55 <Mekkis> ah
20:01:03 <Avatar> I think tiller looks like the best one so far, but even that's dumb
20:01:09 <Mekkis> it is dumb
20:01:40 <Mekkis> get a Shining Wayfinder
20:01:42 <Mekkis> :)
20:01:51 <Avatar> holy shit, can I
20:01:58 <Avatar> where is that
20:02:13 <Mekkis> Silver crusade
20:02:29 <Mekkis> Beacon of Good (Fame 5, 2 PP) The
20:02:29 <Mekkis> Shining Crusade gives you a shining wayfinder (see page
20:02:29 <Mekkis> 55) emblazoned with the emblem of a silver dragon. If you
20:02:29 <Mekkis> lose your shining wayfinder, you can purchase a new one
20:02:29 <Mekkis> for an additional 2 PP. Members of the Silver Crusade
20:02:30 <Mekkis> who are caught selling shining wayfinders for their own
20:02:32 <Mekkis> prof it are exiled, and must switch factions.
20:02:51 <Avatar> that's just a regular bloody wayfinder
20:03:01 <Avatar> I think I already have one with a decemvirate seal on it
20:03:11 <Mekkis> it can detect evil!
20:03:19 <Avatar> oh
20:03:27 <Mekkis> and Protection from Evil!
20:03:29 <Avatar> maybe I should see page 55
20:03:33 <Mekkis> :P
20:03:42 <Mekkis> !item shining wayfinder
20:03:44 <diebot> Mekkis, SHINING WAYFINDER [faint divination] CL:3 none 2000gp, 1lb
20:03:44 <diebot> A shining wayfinder is a polished silver compass favored by members of the Shining Crusade. In addition to the usual functions of a wayfinder (including the ability to create light), a shining wayfinder can be used to cast detect evil-when so used, its needle points not to the north but rather to the nearest source of evil within 60 feet. Once per
20:03:44 <diebot> day, a shining wayfinder can be used to cast protection from evil upon the wayfinder's bearer. A shining wayfinder functions only for a creature that is good-aligned. When held by an evil creature, the shining wayfinder's needle spins in a frantic circle. When held by any creature that is both nonevil and nongood, the needle simply hangs limply,
20:03:44 <diebot> not pointing to anything at all (not even to true north). Source: Pathfinder Society Field Guide
20:04:13 <Avatar> that is probably the only decent award in there
20:04:25 <Avatar> unless you want to make something a class skill, I guess, but they're all terrible for spellcasters
20:04:56 <Mekkis> knowledge local isn't
20:05:24 <Avatar> yeah that one is decent
20:06:11 <Mekkis> diplomacy isn't
20:06:17 <Avatar> beacon of good completely contradicts Snickers' personality
20:06:26 <Avatar> but this is effectively a stolen boon so that works wonders
20:06:36 <Avatar> suckit s.crusade
20:06:44 <Avatar> I'll show them
20:06:58 <Avatar> what are they gonna do, exile me from their faction? ha!
20:07:01 <Mekkis> have they got the conquest schedule up?
20:07:12 <Avatar> hardly anything's been organised
20:07:18 <Avatar> GMs are talking scenario preferences
20:07:28 <Avatar> it's unlikely to go up until about a week beforehand
20:07:44 <Mekkis> Am I able to request a scenario?
20:07:56 <Avatar> yes, we're sort of begging for requests
20:08:14 <Mekkis> Ooh
20:08:19 <Mekkis> Kortos Envoy!
20:09:25 <Mekkis> Where Mammoths Dare Not Tread
20:11:59 <Mekkis> if they want me to run The Slave Master's Mirror, say so.
20:12:40 <Avatar> someone's volunteered slave master's mirror
20:13:05 <Mekkis> let me guess who it is
20:13:12 <Mekkis> The VL from Adelaide?
20:13:51 <Avatar> who's that
20:13:54 <Avatar> callum?
20:14:32 <Mekkis> yeah
20:19:36 <Mekkis> !hp 2d8m2
20:19:37 <diebot> Mekkis, 17
20:20:22 <Avatar> somehow I've forgotten all about threefold aspect lasting 24 hours
20:20:29 <Avatar> wonder if it's worth using that
20:21:22 <Avatar> can't find it now
20:22:02 <Avatar> ah it's mark platt
20:24:42 <Avatar> can mistmail be made from special materials
20:24:51 <Avatar> I don't like that 20% arcane spell failure
20:35:27 <Mekkis> no
20:35:46 <Mekkis> when it's in fog form, I don't believe it counts
20:36:01 <Avatar> er, really
20:37:22 <Avatar> does that mean the armor bonus doesn't apply either
20:41:11 <Mekkis> I would say so
20:41:15 <Mekkis> but. Mage armour
20:47:18 <Avatar> okay mistmail is suddenly looking much more attractive
21:03:02 <Mekkis> Some GMs say that the mist isn't enough to hide in. They're wrong, but there's nothing you can do about it.
21:04:13 <Mekkis> !capacity 14
21:04:14 <diebot> Mekkis, 58 if medium, 43.5 if small.
21:05:16 <Avatar> what do you reckon on threefold aspect
21:08:42 <Mekkis> crap
21:09:41 <Mekkis> Enhancement bonus means that it doesn't stack with that headband I know you have
21:11:49 <Avatar> I'm looking at the con bonus
21:15:22 <Mekkis> get a belt?
21:16:31 <Avatar> oh yeah I do
21:16:36 <Avatar> so that screws me
21:18:58 <Mekkis> what is Snickers' con?
21:19:22 <Mekkis> Deceased sucked it in, got a +4 belt, and toughness
21:20:04 <Mekkis> with eight levels in a prestige class, you lose out on the favoured class bonus
21:22:27 <Avatar> this mistmail puts me on a medium load permanently I think
21:22:55 <Avatar> oh wait, weight doesn't count in fog form??
21:26:11 <Avatar> water is still my bane, I like it
21:34:00 <Mekkis> hmm.. That is strange. Is it bad that Steam is stating that <X> is now using "You Need a Budget 4"?
21:34:44 <Mekkis> Wouldn't one consider that information sensitive?
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21:45:06 <Avatar> distance, that's a clever enchantment for a musket
21:51:21 <Avatar> it's just smart business
21:51:37 <Avatar> it's not shameful
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22:18:20 <steven> cleric... level 14
22:27:26 <Avatar> you just seem to keep levelling up when nothing is happening
22:27:33 <Avatar> weren't you level 13 this morning
22:36:45 <steven> yes... 15hr session.
22:38:32 <steven> there were no less then 5 times today that i was having problems breathing because we were laughing so hard.
22:47:06 <Steven1> level 13
22:48:41 <Mekkis> level 13?
22:51:36 <Steven1> on my cleric.
22:51:49 <Steven1> hammered out the primal magic.
22:52:11 <Steven1> we had a blast once the GM hadnt been out drinking before the game.
22:52:36 <steven> well... get to prepare a 7th level spell.
22:58:55 <steven> well i'll do this later today, i've been up for like 40 hours with a 1hr nap in the middle.... done for today.
22:59:04 <Mekkis> limited wish
23:00:28 <steven> im a cleric, w/ estoric magic adding Heightened Awareness, see invisibility, heroism, eyes of the void, contigency scroll
23:00:42 <steven> and ddoor.
23:01:40 <steven> alright, sleep... see ya.
23:01:46 <Mekkis> limited wish for a simulacrum of an antimagic baundersnatch
23:02:51 <Mekkis> Brock says it's okay!
23:10:52 <Avatar> mistmail seems kind of amazing for any character
23:14:58 <Avatar> you have brought up limited wish a lot lately
23:40:04 <Mekkis> Deceased can cast it now
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