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00:22:42 <Steven> i think thats just called brisket
01:23:55 <Avatar> GM won't stop rolling high saves to my hexes :(
01:59:04 <Mekkis> maybe your hexes annoy the GM
02:00:07 <steven> yo
02:06:26 <Avatar> they can't, they aren't working
02:06:44 <Mekkis> sure they can. Some GMs hate hexes
02:16:05 <Avatar> this GM is pretty lax
02:16:23 <Avatar> the only overpower going on is healing, and even that's not covering us terribly well
02:57:31 <Avatar> yo
02:58:54 <Mekkis> what game are you playing?
02:59:04 <Avatar> fate
02:59:24 <Mekkis> of the fiend?
02:59:25 <Mekkis> ah
02:59:27 <Mekkis> fun fun fun
03:08:44 <Avatar> just finished
03:08:51 <Avatar> 6 hour game I think
03:08:58 <Avatar> or 6.5
03:09:02 <Avatar> I lost track as to when we started
03:09:08 <Avatar> dumb timezones
03:09:17 <Avatar> and sites that don't convert times automatically when you log in
03:13:16 <steven> how goes it?
03:37:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, tree climbing?
03:38:42 <Avatar> oh yes
03:38:48 <Avatar> www.treesadventure.com
03:38:54 <Avatar> barrels of fun
03:39:54 <Mekkis> 404
03:40:52 <Avatar> er
03:40:54 <Mekkis> did you miss an au?
03:40:55 <Avatar> www.treesadventure.com.au
03:41:05 <Avatar> apparently spaceshot is female now
03:41:19 <Mekkis> oh
03:41:50 <Mekkis> that seems awesome. Was it a work thing?
03:43:10 <Avatar> a work thing?
03:43:16 <Avatar> what does that mean
03:43:27 <steven> fun stuff
03:43:43 <Mekkis> some work-organised activity/
03:45:52 <Avatar> like what?
03:46:01 <Avatar> I mean real deal
03:46:14 <Philderbeast> hey
03:46:20 <Avatar> phil
03:46:29 <Avatar> trees isnt' work organised
03:46:36 <Avatar> I go at least once every spring and autumn
03:46:40 <Mekkis> how often do you do it?
03:46:42 <Philderbeast> hows things going
03:46:43 <Avatar> I had a couple of days off because they were taking the network down
03:46:49 <Mekkis> ah
03:47:00 <Avatar> you normally have to book it a month in advance if you plan on going on a weekend
03:47:11 <Avatar> today I booked it about an hour in advance
03:47:30 <Mekkis> ah
03:51:26 <steven> hey phil
03:51:28 <steven> hows tricks?
03:56:58 <Philderbeast> yea been really busy latly
04:10:34 <Brunius> Avatar` not now
04:10:44 <Brunius> I have uni during the day though
04:11:42 <Mekkis> I'd be up for it when I'm down there
04:11:50 <steven> life does that.
04:12:11 <Brunius> oh when
04:12:24 <Mekkis> 02-04-15
04:14:05 <Avatar`> yeah we can do that
04:14:14 <Avatar`> when does conquest start?
04:14:19 <Steven> yo
04:14:21 <Mekkis> 03-04-2015
04:14:35 <Avatar`> man that's cutting it close
04:14:46 <Avatar`> I usually take a day off before the con to do GM prep
04:14:47 <Mekkis> oh?
04:14:50 <Avatar`> maps usually
04:14:58 <Mekkis> that's cutting it close, man
04:15:53 <Avatar`> for maps it doesn't matter
04:15:53 <Mekkis> I usually try to get maps done two weeks before the con
04:16:38 <Avatar`> I don't even know what to GM yet
04:16:58 <Avatar`> stephen always wants the latest releases to take priority and I've played nothing season 6 since arcanacon
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04:17:03 <Avatar`> I don't like most of season 6
04:17:15 <Avatar`> technic siege might have been alright if I hadn't been sidelined the whole scenario
04:17:50 <Mekkis> season six is a bitch to prep
04:18:00 <Avatar`> why
04:18:46 <Mekkis> so many complications
04:19:05 <Avatar> john d ran trial by machine pretty damn well
04:19:07 <Philderbeast> yea hopefully ill start to get some free weekends again so i can play/gm some pfs
04:19:10 <Avatar> but the maps in it look like a nightmare to me
04:19:16 <Avatar> great for an online game, terrible to print
04:19:31 <Avatar> it annoys me that I'm still not familiar with how to do it
04:19:39 <Avatar> john used A4 pages but I have no idea how to split it
04:20:07 <Avatar> in any case, that's an older season 6 that most everyone has likely played, so it barely counts
04:21:26 <Mekkis> I ran beacon below
04:21:52 <Mekkis> For starters, they make you stat out some monster from two books, plus a couple of mythic tiers.
04:22:02 <Avatar> I was told beacon below was particularly difficult to prep
04:22:09 <Mekkis> Then, they take bits away from you. The final map's a complete bitch.
04:22:24 <Avatar> how do other season 6s compare to that though
04:24:21 <Mekkis> Paths we choose was pretty easy to prep. Stonelords was a special.
04:24:36 <Steven> overflow archive is pretty awesome.
04:24:48 <Mekkis> Haven't dealt with any of the others, though I'm planning on running Slave Master's Mirror next month
04:24:49 <Avatar> I would imagine paths we choose would've been tricky if you didn't know what factions to prep for
04:25:01 <Avatar> although it ultimately felt like quite a small scenario
04:35:19 <Steven> i dunno, at gencon i ran it.
04:35:34 <Avatar> run something for us steven
04:35:49 <Steven> didnt know what factions were gonna be at my table.
04:35:59 <Steven> wasnt difficult
04:36:52 <Steven> its basically like 6 quests takes about 20 minutes to read the backround on the factions you end up getting.
04:37:06 <Steven> i did that part while they were introducing themselves.
04:37:42 <Steven> granted you prep the whole thing and then do a refresh, i dont reccomend running cold.
04:38:09 <Avatar> hmmm ok
04:38:18 <Avatar> I feel stupid for not buying more scenarios during the sale
04:38:24 <Avatar> I bought a ton of season 0s
04:38:35 <Avatar> even though I really hate trying to read those season 0 scenarios
04:38:37 <Steven> cant run anything, im getting everythhing ready for wardens of the reborn forge tomorrow.
04:38:47 <Avatar> not now
04:38:49 <Avatar> just sometime
04:38:50 <Steven> on my character.
04:39:02 <Steven> gonna get my -01 to greater then 12.
04:39:13 <Steven> I used a rebuild and now he is much better then he originally was.
04:42:38 <Mekkis> !spell death knell
04:42:44 <diebot> Mekkis, DEATH KNELL necromancy ([death, evil]) antipaladin 1, cleric/oracle 2, inquisitor 2, witch 2 1 standard action Range: touch living creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous/10 minutes per HD of subject; see text Save: Will negates SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
04:42:44 <diebot> You draw forth the ebbing life force of a creature and use it to fuel your own power. Upon casting this spell, you touch a living creature that has -1 or fewer hit points. If the subject fails its saving throw, it dies, and you gain 1d8 temporary hit points and a +2 enhancement bonus to Strength. Additionally, your effective caster level goes up by
04:42:44 <diebot> +1, improving spell effects dependent on caster level. This increase in effective caster level does not grant you access to more spells. These effects last for 10 minutes per HD of the subject creature.
04:47:49 <Mekkis> !spell death knell, greater
04:47:49 <diebot> Mekkis, DEATH KNELL AURA, GREATER necromancy ([death, evil]) cleric/oracle 6, inquisitor 6, sorcerer/wizard 6, witch 6 1 standard action Range: 20 ft. Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: Will negates SR:yesSource: Horsemen Of The Apocalypse
04:47:50 <diebot> This spell functions as death knell aura, except a dying creature in the area cannot stabilize on its own and automatically takes 1 point of bleed damage on its turn each round. An incorporeal undead or living spirit traveling outside the body (such as a person using astral projection or magic jar) within the aura at the start of its turn takes 1d8
04:47:50 <diebot> points of damage.
04:47:57 <Mekkis> !spell death knell aura
04:47:58 <diebot> Mekkis, DEATH KNELL AURA necromancy ([death, evil]) cleric/oracle 4, inquisitor 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4 1 standard action Range: 20 ft. Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: Will negates SR:yesSource: Horsemen Of The Apocalypse
04:47:58 <diebot> You gain a shimmering gray aura that feeds on the souls of creatures who die within it. The aura sheds light as a candle. If a creature at -1 or fewer hit points is within the aura at the start of its turn, it must save or die, granting you the benefits of death knell.
05:38:47 <Mekkis> true seeing
05:38:49 <steven> domains spell.
05:39:00 <Mekkis> still on the list
05:39:17 <Mekkis> and you can still cast it without making a check if your CL is 11
05:39:24 <Mekkis> Restoration
05:40:01 <steven> right now im just writing in my 'standard' spell selection.
05:40:12 <Mekkis> oh, I was suggesting scrolls
05:42:35 <steven> I would like true seeing a bunch more if it was 10m/level
05:44:15 <Mekkis> We all would
05:44:21 <Mekkis> Greater Arcane Sight
05:45:31 <Avatar> Mekkis: I wasn't clear earlier, I am still keen to go tree climbing when you're here
05:45:48 <Avatar> I'll manage prepping some other way, or possibly earlier/later in the day
05:46:13 <steven> i think im just going to stick w/ see invisibility and if i need to know whats on a creature hit em with my rounds/level analyze dweomer
05:47:32 <steven> I auto identify 9th level spell effects.
05:49:58 <Mekkis> I still haven't organised how I'm getting down there, but flying seems reasonable.
05:59:22 <Avatar> sounds very reasonable
05:59:44 <steven> im gonna prep ghoul army lol
06:01:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, Brunius, ulzef: are you interested in playing No Plunder, No Pay at Conquest?
06:01:54 <Mekkis> other option includes carpooling
06:02:23 <Avatar> al rigg is holding something else in sydney that same weekend
06:02:38 <Avatar> which sounded serious, because he advertised it everywhere
06:02:42 <Brunius> do many people from canberra come down for conquest, Mekkis ?
06:04:27 <Mekkis> no.
06:05:08 <Avatar> Whitey: where are you located
06:05:52 <Mekkis> ICANN states in the Asia-pacific area
06:06:08 <Mekkis> main reason I do is because I've been going to Melbourne cons since before I came to Canberra
06:06:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, Brunius: DST/Civ?
06:06:58 <Brunius> DST?
06:07:08 <Mekkis> Don't starve, together
06:07:29 <Avatar> about to play some sc2
06:07:42 <Brunius> people still play that?
06:07:57 <Mekkis> crazy koreans do
06:08:39 <steven> hey
06:08:58 <Brunius> I'm not goin-oh, I might be
06:09:06 <Mekkis> oh?
06:09:16 <Mekkis> hrej
06:26:18 <Steven1> yo
06:28:51 <Mekkis> how is uni treating you, Brunius ?
06:31:36 <Brunius> eh
06:32:11 <Mekkis> ya
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06:37:36 <Mekkis> !feat master craftsman
06:37:37 <diebot> Mekkis, MASTER CRAFTSMAN []Prereq: 5 ranks in any Craft or Profession skill. Your superior crafting skills allow you to create simple magic items.
06:37:38 <diebot> Benefit: Choose one Craft or Profession skill in which you possess at least 5 ranks. You receive a +2 bonus on your chosen Craft or Profession skill. Ranks in your chosen skill count as your caster level for the purposes of qualifying for the Craft Magic Arms and Armor and Craft Wondrous Item feats. You can create magic items using these feats,
06:37:38 <diebot> substituting your ranks in the chosen skill for your total caster level. You must use the chosen skill for the check to create the item. The DC to create the item still increases for any necessary spell requirements (see the magic item creation rules in Magic Items). You cannot use this feat to create any spell-trigger or spell-activation item.
06:37:38 <diebot> Normal: Only spellcasters can qualify for the Craft Magic Arms and Armor and Craft Wondrous Item feats. Source: Core
06:56:04 <Brunius> Avatar Mekkis is PFS up on the conquest aon yet?
07:08:22 <Mekkis> don't think so
07:09:35 <Mekkis> If Avatar, Brunius and ulzef are up for it, I was considering offering to run No Plunder, No Pay at Conquest
07:10:03 <Brunius> I don't know if I'm gonna be able to make it, things are a bit up in the air at the moment
07:10:18 <Brunius> I'm planning to be there on sunday, but not playing PFS
07:12:17 <Mekkis> even two out of three...
07:24:53 <steven> back.
07:31:51 <Steven> anyone have an electronic copy of the pathfinder society primer?
07:32:13 <Steven> i only have the physical and i left it down at the shop.
07:32:53 <Mekkis> let me check
07:32:56 <Steven> dont want to drive down there at this particular moment.
07:41:31 <Mekkis> don't think I ever bothered getting it: it was a pretty dumb book
07:42:53 <Steven> i liked it... suppose i'll just have to wait till i go down to the shop tonight.
07:42:59 <Steven> Playin Wardens of the Reborn Forge.
07:43:51 <Mekkis> is it good?
07:46:16 <Mekkis> Ah. Google wins again. Want the link?
07:49:34 <Mekkis> Steven?
07:49:56 <Steven> sorry was watching a movie
07:49:56 <Steven> link for what?
07:50:04 <Steven> for primer?
07:50:15 <Mekkis> yeah
07:50:19 <Steven> nah, i can wait till later today.
07:50:34 <Mekkis> I googled PZO9435.pdf
07:50:52 <Steven> cool
07:50:54 <Mekkis> Oh, did I tell you that I FINALLY managed to counter a spell in PFS?
07:51:12 <Steven> woot woot!
07:51:28 <Mekkis> without using Dispel Magic
07:51:33 <Steven> nice.
07:52:58 <Mekkis> My next goal will be to counter a spell with its opposite
07:53:13 <Mekkis> although I think that's nigh-impossible
07:53:24 <Avatar> pass on plunder
07:53:31 <Avatar> conquest is on aon
07:53:34 <Avatar> there's no schedule yet
08:00:10 <Steven> i kinda want pancakes.
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08:19:03 <Steven> my friends want me to go to breakfast with them over in moscow.... fuck that noise.
08:19:32 <Steven> i hate the place they wanna go... their hashbrowns suck and they burned my pancakes last time.
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08:23:27 <Mekkis> I had american for lunch today...
08:24:19 <Mekkis> Texas Brisket
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09:23:34 <Steven> i think thats just called brisket
09:39:57 <Mekkis> when is the earliest one can take levels in a prestige class?
09:40:59 <Avatar> 6th level I think
09:41:11 <Avatar> snickers can finally afford a ring of blink
09:41:15 <Mekkis> there are no strange exceptions?
09:41:19 <Avatar> I don't know if I trust the blink spell?
09:41:29 <Mekkis> trust it to do what?
09:41:30 <Avatar> I don't think there are since the FAQ went obsolete
09:41:39 <Mekkis> what level is snickers anyway?
09:41:42 <Avatar> you have a 50% chance to miss your own attacks don't you
09:41:45 <Avatar> level 10
09:41:49 <Mekkis> 20%
09:42:20 <Avatar> that would apply to anything you try to target wouldn't it
09:42:28 <Avatar> or is it anything at all
09:42:37 <Mekkis> I would say so, but I'm not sure
09:42:42 <Mekkis> !spell blink
09:42:43 <diebot> Mekkis, BLINK transmutation ([]) bard 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, magus 3 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
09:42:43 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/blink.html
09:43:01 <Mekkis> !item ring of blink
09:43:04 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF BLINKING [moderate transmutation] CL:7 ring 27000gp, 0lb
09:43:04 <diebot> On command, this ring makes the wearer blink, as the blink spell. Source: Ultimate Equipment
09:44:07 <Mekkis> keep in mind, I think the ring requires activation; you're only blinking for seven rounds per standard action....
09:44:26 <Avatar> should be fine
09:44:36 <Avatar> it's unlimited use otherwise yeah
09:44:43 <Avatar> on command
09:44:49 <Mekkis> yeah
09:44:54 <Avatar> do you reckon it's no good
09:45:00 <Mekkis> it just means it uses your standards.
09:45:02 <Avatar> someone recommended this item to me and I think it was you
09:45:07 <Mekkis> I'm not saying that
09:45:09 <Mekkis> not at all
09:45:27 <Avatar> it's a pretty expensive item
09:45:28 <Mekkis> it just might not be /that/ good
09:46:21 <Mekkis> at higher levels, its the number of actions you have, rather than the number of spells you have. most of my high-level casters would just cast blink, or mirror image... rather than dishing out for that
09:46:42 <Mekkis> !spell mirror image
09:46:43 <diebot> Mekkis, MIRROR IMAGE illusion (figment[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, magus 2, bloodrager 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
09:46:44 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/mirror_image.html
09:47:11 <Mekkis> neither of which appears to be on the witch list, which is your problem, ja?
09:48:40 <Avatar> witches, man
09:48:49 <Avatar> I get slumber hex instead
09:50:08 <Mekkis> the standard action you're using to activate your ring is a standard action you're not using to slumber an enemy.
09:54:24 <Avatar> yeah I know
09:54:44 <Avatar> not sure what I could get to get around that
09:54:46 <Mekkis> Deceased is now preparing Quickened Mirror Image
09:54:47 <Avatar> what other item
09:55:01 <Avatar> a quicken rod won't help me
09:55:01 <Mekkis> there IS mistmail
09:55:09 <Avatar> oh yeah mistmail
09:55:11 <Avatar> someone mentioned that
09:55:27 <Mekkis> you sure? quickened haste is a good thing
09:55:56 <Mekkis> lets you haste and slumber in the same round
09:56:28 <Avatar> witches don't need haste
09:56:35 <Avatar> haste + slumber is a bit overkill
09:56:36 <Mekkis> but your party does
09:56:45 <Avatar> yeah but if that's the case I can just cast haste
09:56:57 <Avatar> I don't think I have too many casts of that
09:57:07 <Avatar> no wait that is a filthy lie
09:57:14 <Avatar> 3-4 hastes generally
09:57:15 <Avatar> anyone got the link to the scenarios by geographic location anywhere? from paizo.com
09:57:20 <Avatar> I can't find it anymore
09:57:20 <Mekkis> heh
09:57:21 <Avatar> but it's still not something to quicken
09:57:31 <Avatar> something like mirror image would be
09:57:38 <Mekkis> so the rod would give you three additional standard actions in combat per day!
09:57:44 <Mekkis> that's definitely worth it!
09:59:27 <Avatar> but it's the wrong kind of standard action
09:59:49 <Avatar> I am constantly worrying about AoOs
10:02:00 <Avatar> blerg mistmail is once per day
10:02:29 <Avatar> I guess it's cheap enough I could buy like 4 of them
10:02:48 <Avatar> that sounds like it'd start to fill up the haversack
10:03:38 <Avatar> mistmail is out I think
10:03:47 <Avatar> last resort option
10:10:07 <Mekkis> !item mistmail
10:10:10 <diebot> Mekkis, MISTMAIL [faint conjuration] CL:3 armor 2250gp, 25lb
10:10:10 <diebot> The fine links of this +1 chain shirt form a pattern of roiling clouds. On command once per day, the wearer can transform it into thick fog that fills his space and provides concealment (20% miss chance). This mist moves with the character. Effects that disperse the mist or destroy it cause the armor to reform into its solid shape on the
10:10:10 <diebot> character's body, as does speaking the command word or entering a place where the fog-magic doesn't function (such as underwater). If the character tries to don another suit of armor while the mistmail is in fog form, it reforms at the character's feet. Source: Ultimate Equipment
10:10:23 <Mekkis> why? Turn it on at the start of the day.
10:11:02 <Mekkis> And why are you worrying about AoOs? Can't you cast defensively
10:11:33 <Mekkis> also: quickened spells don't provoke
10:24:08 <Avatar> I'm worried about AoOs if I need to move
10:24:18 <Avatar> out of a threatened area, for example
10:24:48 <Avatar> is mistmail's effect permanent once you turn it on?
10:25:01 <Avatar> why would you ever turn it off
10:26:53 <Avatar> if I had any defensive spells like mirror image or blink, i'd consider quicken
10:27:30 <Avatar> I get obscuring mist and fog cloud and mount
10:28:19 <Avatar> I really don't like those fog spells, it usually changes the course of the encounter in a bad way
10:39:25 <Mekkis> defensively cast Dimension Door?
10:39:42 <Mekkis> have you got a 'Get out of grapple free" item yet?
10:40:32 <Avatar> unfettered shirt
10:58:53 <Mekkis> did you see the magical wrist sheath in the ACG?
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11:18:44 <Mekkis> !hp 2d8m2
11:18:45 <diebot> Mekkis, 17
11:19:30 <Avatar> somehow I've forgotten all about threefold aspect lasting 24 hours
11:19:37 <Avatar> wonder if it's worth using that
11:23:50 <Avatar> can mistmail be made from special materials
11:23:59 <Avatar> I don't like that 20% arcane spell failure
11:34:34 <Mekkis> no
11:34:53 <Mekkis> when it's in fog form, I don't believe it counts
11:35:09 <Avatar> er, really
11:36:30 <Avatar> does that mean the armor bonus doesn't apply either
11:40:18 <Mekkis> I would say so
11:40:22 <Mekkis> but. Mage armour
11:46:26 <Avatar> okay mistmail is suddenly looking much more attractive
12:02:09 <Mekkis> Some GMs say that the mist isn't enough to hide in. They're wrong, but there's nothing you can do about it.
12:03:21 <Mekkis> !capacity 14
12:03:22 <diebot> Mekkis, 58 if medium, 43.5 if small.
12:04:24 <Avatar> what do you reckon on threefold aspect
12:07:50 <Mekkis> crap
12:08:49 <Mekkis> Enhancement bonus means that it doesn't stack with that headband I know you have
12:10:57 <Avatar> I'm looking at the con bonus
12:14:30 <Mekkis> get a belt?
12:15:39 <Avatar> oh yeah I do
12:15:44 <Avatar> so that screws me
12:18:06 <Mekkis> what is Snickers' con?
12:18:29 <Mekkis> Deceased sucked it in, got a +4 belt, and toughness
12:19:12 <Mekkis> with eight levels in a prestige class, you lose out on the favoured class bonus
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12:21:35 <Avatar> this mistmail puts me on a medium load permanently I think
12:22:03 <Avatar> oh wait, weight doesn't count in fog form??
12:25:18 <Avatar> water is still my bane, I like it
12:41:48 <Tole> Hello?
12:42:08 <Tole> How I can play Path Finder for free?
12:42:34 <Tole> Anyone?
12:44:14 <Avatar> distance, that's a clever enchantment for a musket
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16:58:12 <Mekkis> maybe your hexes annoy the GM
17:05:34 <Avatar> they can't, they aren't working
17:05:51 <Mekkis> sure they can. Some GMs hate hexes
17:15:12 <Avatar> this GM is pretty lax
17:15:31 <Avatar> the only overpower going on is healing, and even that's not covering us terribly well
17:17:02 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/pathfinder/adventureFinder/byRegion
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17:35:53 <Avatar> Mekkis: depends who's GMing it
17:58:00 <Mekkis> what game are you playing?
17:58:11 <Avatar> fate
17:58:31 <Mekkis> of the fiend?
17:58:33 <Mekkis> ah
17:58:35 <Mekkis> fun fun fun
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18:40:49 <Mekkis> when is the earliest one can take levels in a prestige class?
18:41:51 <Avatar> 6th level I think
18:42:03 <Avatar> snickers can finally afford a ring of blink
18:42:08 <Mekkis> there are no strange exceptions?
18:42:11 <Avatar> I don't know if I trust the blink spell?
18:42:21 <Mekkis> trust it to do what?
18:42:22 <Avatar> I don't think there are since the FAQ went obsolete
18:42:32 <Mekkis> what level is snickers anyway?
18:42:34 <Avatar> you have a 50% chance to miss your own attacks don't you
18:42:37 <Avatar> level 10
18:42:42 <Mekkis> 20%
18:43:12 <Avatar> that would apply to anything you try to target wouldn't it
18:43:20 <Avatar> or is it anything at all
18:43:30 <Mekkis> I would say so, but I'm not sure
18:43:34 <Mekkis> !spell blink
18:43:35 <diebot> Mekkis, BLINK transmutation ([]) bard 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, magus 3 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
18:43:35 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/blink.html
18:43:53 <Mekkis> !item ring of blink
18:43:56 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF BLINKING [moderate transmutation] CL:7 ring 27000gp, 0lb
18:43:56 <diebot> On command, this ring makes the wearer blink, as the blink spell. Source: Ultimate Equipment
18:44:59 <Mekkis> keep in mind, I think the ring requires activation; you're only blinking for seven rounds per standard action....
18:45:18 <Avatar> should be fine
18:45:28 <Avatar> it's unlimited use otherwise yeah
18:45:36 <Avatar> on command
18:45:41 <Mekkis> yeah
18:45:46 <Avatar> do you reckon it's no good
18:45:52 <Mekkis> it just means it uses your standards.
18:45:54 <Avatar> someone recommended this item to me and I think it was you
18:45:59 <Mekkis> I'm not saying that
18:46:02 <Mekkis> not at all
18:46:19 <Avatar> it's a pretty expensive item
18:46:20 <Mekkis> it just might not be /that/ good
18:47:13 <Mekkis> at higher levels, its the number of actions you have, rather than the number of spells you have. most of my high-level casters would just cast blink, or mirror image... rather than dishing out for that
18:47:34 <Mekkis> !spell mirror image
18:47:35 <diebot> Mekkis, MIRROR IMAGE illusion (figment[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, magus 2, bloodrager 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
18:47:36 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/mirror_image.html
18:48:03 <Mekkis> neither of which appears to be on the witch list, which is your problem, ja?
18:49:32 <Avatar> witches, man
18:49:41 <Avatar> I get slumber hex instead
18:51:01 <Mekkis> the standard action you're using to activate your ring is a standard action you're not using to slumber an enemy.
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18:53:16 <Mekkis> should just always show it as UTC
18:53:34 <Mekkis> When does DST end?
18:55:16 <Avatar> yeah I know
18:55:36 <Avatar> not sure what I could get to get around that
18:55:38 <Mekkis> Deceased is now preparing Quickened Mirror Image
18:55:39 <Avatar> what other item
18:55:53 <Avatar> a quicken rod won't help me
18:55:54 <Mekkis> there IS mistmail
18:56:01 <Avatar> oh yeah mistmail
18:56:03 <Avatar> someone mentioned that
18:56:20 <Mekkis> you sure? quickened haste is a good thing
18:56:48 <Mekkis> lets you haste and slumber in the same round
18:57:20 <Avatar> witches don't need haste
18:57:27 <Avatar> haste + slumber is a bit overkill
18:57:28 <Mekkis> but your party does
18:57:37 <Avatar> yeah but if that's the case I can just cast haste
18:57:49 <Avatar> I don't think I have too many casts of that
18:57:59 <Avatar> no wait that is a filthy lie
18:58:06 <Avatar> 3-4 hastes generally
18:58:13 <Mekkis> heh
18:58:13 <Avatar> but it's still not something to quicken
18:58:23 <Avatar> something like mirror image would be
18:58:30 <Mekkis> so the rod would give you three additional standard actions in combat per day!
18:58:36 <Mekkis> that's definitely worth it!
19:00:19 <Avatar> but it's the wrong kind of standard action
19:00:41 <Avatar> I am constantly worrying about AoOs
19:02:53 <Avatar> blerg mistmail is once per day
19:03:21 <Avatar> I guess it's cheap enough I could buy like 4 of them
19:03:40 <Avatar> that sounds like it'd start to fill up the haversack
19:04:30 <Avatar> mistmail is out I think
19:04:39 <Avatar> last resort option
19:11:00 <Mekkis> !item mistmail
19:11:02 <diebot> Mekkis, MISTMAIL [faint conjuration] CL:3 armor 2250gp, 25lb
19:11:02 <diebot> The fine links of this +1 chain shirt form a pattern of roiling clouds. On command once per day, the wearer can transform it into thick fog that fills his space and provides concealment (20% miss chance). This mist moves with the character. Effects that disperse the mist or destroy it cause the armor to reform into its solid shape on the
19:11:02 <diebot> character's body, as does speaking the command word or entering a place where the fog-magic doesn't function (such as underwater). If the character tries to don another suit of armor while the mistmail is in fog form, it reforms at the character's feet. Source: Ultimate Equipment
19:11:15 <Mekkis> why? Turn it on at the start of the day.
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19:11:54 <Mekkis> And why are you worrying about AoOs? Can't you cast defensively
19:12:26 <Mekkis> also: quickened spells don't provoke
19:25:00 <Avatar> I'm worried about AoOs if I need to move
19:25:10 <Avatar> out of a threatened area, for example
19:25:40 <Avatar> is mistmail's effect permanent once you turn it on?
19:25:53 <Avatar> why would you ever turn it off
19:27:45 <Avatar> if I had any defensive spells like mirror image or blink, i'd consider quicken
19:28:22 <Avatar> I get obscuring mist and fog cloud and mount
19:29:11 <Avatar> I really don't like those fog spells, it usually changes the course of the encounter in a bad way
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19:40:17 <Mekkis> defensively cast Dimension Door?
19:40:35 <Mekkis> have you got a 'Get out of grapple free" item yet?
19:41:24 <Avatar> unfettered shirt
19:58:10 <Avatar> 5/4
19:59:45 <Mekkis> did you see the magical wrist sheath in the ACG?
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20:19:36 <Mekkis> !hp 2d8m2
20:19:37 <diebot> Mekkis, 17
20:20:22 <Avatar> somehow I've forgotten all about threefold aspect lasting 24 hours
20:20:29 <Avatar> wonder if it's worth using that
20:24:42 <Avatar> can mistmail be made from special materials
20:24:51 <Avatar> I don't like that 20% arcane spell failure
20:33:01 <steven> Primal magic sucks...
20:33:31 <steven> mostly when your GM is being far to liberal with primal magic events.
20:34:22 <steven> and changing the rules so its more difficult to use items...
20:34:28 <steven> seriously... it really sucks.
20:35:27 <Mekkis> no
20:35:46 <Mekkis> when it's in fog form, I don't believe it counts
20:36:01 <Avatar> er, really
20:36:06 <steven> my ring of invisibility which should have a 50% change to trigger a primal magic event, followed by a concentration check DC=15+Double spell level, if i fail then it triggers a primal magic event now just triggers a primal magic event 50% of the time.
20:37:22 <Avatar> does that mean the armor bonus doesn't apply either
20:37:23 <steven> just ha ha get fucked... your 20k magic item is useless... and your 54k in scrolls also have a 50% chance not to work and instead trigger a primal magic event...
20:37:38 <steven> my build is literally worthless right now.
20:41:11 <Mekkis> I would say so
20:41:15 <Mekkis> but. Mage armour
20:42:37 <Mekkis> steven, you know how to handle that, right?
20:43:05 <Mekkis> just keep activating the ring each round
20:43:57 <steven> nah... last time i failed the check because i NEEDED to cast a heal spell.
20:44:23 <Mekkis> just keep activating the ring each round
20:44:24 <steven> on a roll of a 1... GM star reroll with +5 bonus... roll a 1.
20:44:36 <steven> summoned 2 CR14 creatures.
20:44:47 <steven> which immediately attacked us.
20:45:03 <Mekkis> is this PFS?!
20:45:16 <steven> yuuuuuuup
20:45:35 <Mekkis> with primal magic?
20:45:42 <steven> this module makes use of the Primal Magic rules out of Inner sea Magic.
20:45:46 <Mekkis> ah
20:45:59 <Mekkis> and the GM is doing it wrong?
20:46:17 <steven> yeah, didnt know it at the time because i printed out my chronicle sheet.
20:46:25 <steven> so wasnt usin my laptop.
20:46:37 <steven> obviously i mean character
20:47:18 <Avatar> okay mistmail is suddenly looking much more attractive
20:48:11 <steven> so yeah... gonna have to rehash this because its not fun to have every spell with the possibility to do stupid shit.
20:48:24 <steven> like in a mana storm... yeah sure. every spell should have that chance.
20:48:51 <steven> but if we're roaming around in the mana wastes every spell we cast shouldnt have the possibility of blowing up in our face ya kmnow.
20:51:03 <steven> like oh hey you cast cure light wounds from a wand... 50% chance to trigger... fail... nat 20 on CR determinination... a 40 on the d100 to determine effect... excellent 20 creatures in the area get hit with the Harm spell.
20:53:32 <Mekkis> why are you rolling the d20 for CR? That's only for naturally occuring ones
20:53:58 <steven> thats what we were told.
20:54:50 <steven> I of course went and reread the rules because if this is how the game is going to be played i wouldnt have brought my Cloistered Cleric/Pathfinder Savant... who is basically a wand/scroll master.
20:54:58 <Mekkis> When the effect occurs, you need to determine the CR
20:54:58 <Mekkis> of the event. If the event is triggered by a spellcaster or
20:54:58 <Mekkis> a magic item, the event’s CR is equal to the spellcaster’s
20:54:58 <Mekkis> or item’s caster level. When an event occurs naturally,
20:54:58 <Mekkis> you can roll 1d20 to determine the CR.
20:56:43 <steven> yeah, im messaging him right now, because im not gonna play this with this character, I'd bring a Martial
21:03:02 <Mekkis> Some GMs say that the mist isn't enough to hide in. They're wrong, but there's nothing you can do about it.
21:04:13 <Mekkis> !capacity 14
21:04:14 <diebot> Mekkis, 58 if medium, 43.5 if small.
21:05:16 <Avatar> what do you reckon on threefold aspect
21:07:36 <Mekkis> someone has to bring a spellcaster to the mana wastes
21:08:25 <steven> yeah... but not a spellcaster whos primary mechanic is using spell completion and spell trigger items.
21:08:42 <Mekkis> crap
21:08:52 <steven> because 50% of the time the effect is replaced by a primal magic event.
21:09:41 <Mekkis> Enhancement bonus means that it doesn't stack with that headband I know you have
21:11:39 <steven> and so far every primal magic has been negative.
21:11:49 <Avatar> I'm looking at the con bonus
21:13:48 <Mekkis> but the CL is so low, right?
21:15:22 <Mekkis> get a belt?
21:15:35 <steven> i activate my scrolls at my CL
21:16:31 <Avatar> oh yeah I do
21:16:36 <Avatar> so that screws me
21:18:58 <Mekkis> what is Snickers' con?
21:19:22 <Mekkis> Deceased sucked it in, got a +4 belt, and toughness
21:20:04 <Mekkis> with eight levels in a prestige class, you lose out on the favoured class bonus
21:22:11 <steven> it is a really debilitating mechanic for someone who spent the bulk of their character wealth on spell completion items.
21:22:27 <Avatar> this mistmail puts me on a medium load permanently I think
21:22:55 <Avatar> oh wait, weight doesn't count in fog form??
21:23:02 <Brunius> Avatar so, TPG and iiNet
21:24:14 <Mekkis> why aren't you getting a concentration check?
21:24:28 <Whitey> heard about that - how horrible
21:25:12 <steven> in an adventure path there is a spot that has a mechanic that is a dc 17 will save, if you fail you become paranoid and cannot benefit from aid another, healing, anything like that.
21:25:51 <steven> we had a player thats entire gimick was bodyguarding, in harms way, aid another on attacks.
21:26:01 <steven> basically made everyone just be better.
21:26:11 <Avatar> water is still my bane, I like it
21:26:35 <steven> walks into the place... fails will save... character build completely shut down for an entire book of the adventure path.
21:27:15 <steven> i dunno why mekkis, i think its just a mistake or an oversight.
21:27:36 <steven> warden of the reborn forge has 12 source books.
21:27:47 <steven> thats just fuckin insane imo.
21:29:00 <Mekkis> agreed
21:35:28 <Avatar> ?
21:37:22 <Avatar> what the crap is going on
21:45:06 <Avatar> distance, that's a clever enchantment for a musket
21:49:30 <Avatar> might go tree climbing this afternoon
22:18:10 <Avatar> just play online lol.
22:18:18 <Avatar> brunius are you busy
23:10:52 <Avatar> mistmail seems kind of amazing for any character
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23:39:20 <Mekkis> Take up the Chelish burden, Call forth the best ye breed
23:39:20 <Mekkis> And bind them into service, to serve your captives' need
23:39:20 <Mekkis> To wait in heavy harness, On fluttered folk and wild--
23:39:20 <Mekkis> Your new-caught, sullen peoples, Half-demon and half-child.