// #d&d — 2015-03-31
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01:34:26 <Avatar> this stupid map is 48 inches by 60 inches
01:34:39 <Avatar> A0 is 33.1 x 46.8
01:42:31 <Avatar> it's just dawned on me it's going to be cheaper to draw the whole thing and have a scaled A4 page for the players as a reference
02:21:53 <Avatar> yo
02:22:18 <Avatar> posterazor is better than foxit for splitting into pages
02:25:00 <steven> yo
03:05:58 <Steven1> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... im so tired of this migraine.
03:06:10 <Steven1> 4 days now.
03:11:27 <Avatar> make it stop pls
03:11:53 <Brunius> abra kadabra, alakazam
03:13:43 <Steven1> whoa... no more pain.
03:13:46 <Steven1> brunius you the man
03:13:58 * Brunius takes a bow
03:14:19 <Steven1> i even GM'd tonight
03:14:34 <Avatar> that's why you're having migraines
03:14:36 <Avatar> constant GMing
03:15:12 <Steven1> well if people would step the fuck up and do their fair share of gming
03:16:10 <Steven1> i've Gm'd 4/9 slots this month.
03:17:16 <Steven1> i have one person who just flat refuses to gm... ever.
03:17:34 <Steven1> been coming down to play for like 2 years now.
03:17:55 <Mekkis> just don't schedule stuff he can play :P
03:18:07 <Steven1> i just put random things on the schedule.
03:18:45 <Steven1> unless someone specifically asks for something.
03:20:17 <steven> what nothin!?!
03:21:35 <Avatar> so you've never printed out a single map before
03:21:58 <Steven1> they are also a pain in the ass as a person because if someone says something they dont like they come get me to tell the person to stop...
03:23:14 <Steven1> because obviouly since i'm the VL that means im the babysitter.
03:23:29 <Brunius> well duh
03:24:18 <Mekkis> what are his reasons for not GMing?
03:24:20 <Steven1> i'd have to say thats the worst part about being a VO.
03:26:00 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure I didn't think I was going to GM ever at one point
03:26:27 <Steven1> people expect me to fight their battle for them... if you're 10years old and all the 20+ yo people are talking over you and telling you what to do. I will step in, cause you're a kid. If you're 25... open your god damned mouth and defend yourself.
03:28:37 <Steven1> seriously guys... this persons mother came in to sit in on a game after the person came and pulled me out of GMing a game because they felt the GM was targeting their character.
03:29:26 <Steven1> and i came out and was like, whats the situation, heres a solution. bye.
03:29:27 <Avatar> you should have then started targetting him
03:29:50 <Steven1> and then next week... momma bird came in to play with this 25yo.
03:30:02 <Steven1> to make sure her baby wasnt being picked on.
03:30:10 <Avatar> maybe she started to like pathfinder society ?
03:30:45 <Steven1> no... after the game day the mother and the person requested a meeting with me to discuss the incident.
03:31:20 <Avatar> did the meeting happen before or after she played
03:31:46 <Steven1> the mother didnt play... she sat at the table
03:32:21 <Avatar> did you get a chance to target him before the meeting
03:32:30 <Avatar> so you could admit that yes I was targetting him
03:32:50 <Steven1> nah i didnt GM, i was busy gming a different table.
03:32:52 <Avatar> how embarassing, being 25 and having your mother come in to fix it
03:33:09 <Steven1> would have been for me.
03:33:22 <Steven1> but then, my mom plays pfs now.
03:33:25 <Brunius> Sure he's not autistic or something?
03:33:38 <Brunius> That's pretty much the only situation in which I'd see that as okay
03:33:51 <Steven1> she has a dwarven bard who hits people with an improvised weapon rolling pin.
03:33:52 <Steven1> lol
03:34:07 <Steven1> nope, not autistic... just a royal pain in the ass.
03:35:29 <steven> i didnt say that.
03:35:29 <Steven1> They build VERY optimized characters and then complain to me whenever they get their feelings hurt.
03:35:47 <steven> I've done it before... costs too much in my opinion
03:35:56 <Steven1> like when the BBEG calls their female character a wench.
03:37:26 <steven> so i draw my maps out.
03:37:53 <Steven1> cause obviously thats a label put on the player right... the gm is totally calling the player a wench... well better go get the VL to straighten this GM out and by god if he doesnt tell this GM off next time im bringing my mother in and we will have a conversation about how name calling isnt appreciated!
03:38:41 <Steven1> i seriously need a stiff drink.
03:38:46 <Steven1> i'm fuckin annoyed.
03:39:11 <Steven1> brb, gonna get some scotch
03:41:11 <Steven1> well... i dont know if its going to be good for my head
03:41:17 <Steven1> but fuck its tasty
03:42:33 <Steven1> anyways... yeah.
03:42:48 <Steven1> had to GM tonight, didnt really want to.
03:43:03 <Steven1> missed out on what sounded like an epic game of Overflow Archives Core.
03:47:08 <steven> i go through more dry erase markers, but i dont have to spend 15 bucks per map
03:48:24 <Steven1> ran Icebound Outpost.
03:49:14 <Steven1> i dont understand why the neutral aligned baddies are the only ones who fight to the death.
03:49:22 <Steven1> because frankly they have the least motivation to do so.
03:56:20 <Mekkis> because the scenario writers are lazy?
04:04:17 <Mekkis> is it acceptable to ignore tactics when running an AP in PFS?
04:07:32 <Avatar> I think you can do it in campaign mode?
04:07:48 <Avatar> my understanding is all bets are off in campaign mode
04:07:58 <Avatar> either way you should ask/tell your players
04:13:22 <Avatar> what size paper did you use
04:16:49 <Steven1> its run as written whenever pfs is invovled unless campaign mode or player actions invalidate tactics/moral
04:21:54 <steven> i dont remember... i just remember somebody used a marker on it
04:22:02 <steven> so it was ruined after that.
04:27:15 <Mekkis> Do you want me to play this 20 int dragon intelligently
04:29:20 <Avatar> that's a very polite way to say can I ignore the tactics against this dragon to kill you as efficiently as possible
04:41:50 <Mekkis> It's more "Should I make this dragon NOT die in one round against you guys"
04:42:10 <Avatar> is it worth paying conquest in advance
04:42:17 <Avatar> http://www.conquest.asn.au/visitor-guide/entry-fees/
04:42:25 <Avatar> tonight is the point of no return apparently
04:51:41 <Brunius> it's one a dollar
04:51:45 <Brunius> only even
04:52:46 <Avatar> well I guess it did occur to me and I forgot
04:53:47 <Avatar> anyone know what size a flipmat is
05:08:43 <Avatar> all of the above
05:09:54 <Mekkis> I'd like to hope motive comes into it
05:11:25 <Mekkis> plus, we are talking 13th level
05:13:20 <Avatar> preferred playstyle is more important than character level
05:26:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, how goes the regexes?
05:27:00 <Mekkis> you'd rather cakeWalk the encounter in one round?\
05:34:01 <Brunius> about yea big
05:34:38 <Brunius> "
05:34:43 <Brunius> 30*24"
05:47:40 <Avatar> nice
05:48:27 <Avatar> still can't believe there isn't a standardised way to get maps printed yet
05:48:59 <Avatar> someone could probably make an app that does all of this and nothing else and make millions
06:04:59 <steven> make it?
06:10:32 <Mekkis> Brunius, how's the Brirc going?
06:12:49 <Avatar> if you're not overly interested in combat, then yes
06:18:38 <Mekkis> hehe. You can make Dancing Lights permanent
06:21:11 <Mekkis> What is this?
06:21:16 <Mekkis> I understand I will be required to physically exert myself and that it is possible I could injure myself during this activity and I am not affected by drugs or alcohol.
06:21:28 <Mekkis> Pretty sure that I AM affected by drugs or alcohol!
06:22:15 <Mekkis> I'd like to see someone who is unaffected by drugs or alcohol!
06:30:39 <Brunius> haven't messed with it yet
06:37:28 <Avatar> Brunius, get started
06:37:34 <Brunius> on what
06:37:44 <Avatar> making an app that does all of this and nothing else and make millions
06:38:57 <Avatar> it has to be able to extract a map from a PDF, draw gridlines that can be overlain on it, a few colour sharpening effects, cut into pages of whatever size you might need, auto-centre/auto-rotate options, and printed using those options
06:39:36 <Brunius> oh, is that all?
06:39:45 <Avatar> it sounds like a lot, but it's not
06:39:48 <Brunius> Yeah I'll just make that by tomorrow morning and then send it to you
06:39:56 <Avatar> mate take the time you need
06:39:59 <Avatar> this will make you millions
06:40:26 <Avatar> somehow nobody in the world has done it yet and the 100000 people playing pathfinder and just getting drawn maps or are working with GMs who are mathematicians
06:41:01 <Avatar> I've been working on this for days and no one person can give me straight answers to the whole process
06:42:38 <Avatar> even stephen's method apparently requires "trial and error", I don't know how many pages that kind of thing burns
06:42:46 <Avatar> hey brunius I need a dollar can you send it over pls
06:42:58 <Avatar> lol.
06:42:58 <Avatar> I won't pay it back but that's ok cuz it's only a dollar
06:43:23 <Avatar> just sign your life away
06:43:24 <Brunius> Nah i don't have internet banking, sorry
06:44:04 <Mekkis> Are you affected by drugs or alcohol?
06:45:14 <Brunius> what do you mean by 'colour sharpening effects'
06:45:21 <Mekkis> You know, the 'GM vs player' mentality goes both ways...
06:46:06 <Avatar> you can make the colours in a map look much sharper than they are, which is better for a printed map
06:46:25 <Brunius> so you're messing with saturation or something?
06:46:41 <Avatar> do you have GIMP
06:46:48 <Brunius> yeah starting it up now
06:46:57 <Avatar> load up a map, go to Colours > Levels
06:47:25 <Avatar> move the left hand arrow a little to the right, and the right hand arrow a little to the left
06:47:41 <Avatar> so it covers the graph a bit more densely
06:47:57 <Brunius> I know I am
06:48:04 <Brunius> on input or output
06:48:47 <Avatar> hang on
06:49:13 <Avatar> input
06:49:28 <Avatar> there's 3 arrows there, not 2
06:49:39 <Brunius> yeah
06:50:18 <Brunius> I have no idea how you would do that via a program
06:50:27 <Brunius> Probably easiest to do it via calling the GIMP actually
06:50:50 <Avatar> well look maybe but it seems like you need 4 different programs and you need to know how to use all of them to do one speciifc thing in each of them
06:51:13 <Avatar> even some sort of shortcut tool that just does it for you would work
06:51:25 <Brunius> So you want a grid overlay, image extraction, colour sharpening, and then print that?
06:51:33 <Avatar> I'm trying to write up a document, but even that reads fairly complicated
06:51:59 <Avatar> before printing you have to be able to slice it up in however many pages you want, or place it wherever you want on those pages
06:52:09 <Avatar> posterazor or foxit/acrobat do that
06:52:28 <Avatar> foxit does it better than acrobat, I'm not sure where posterazor sits because I can't work it out
06:52:49 <Avatar> I think foxit alone should be able to do it
06:53:13 <Avatar> but I'm not sure it can save a map like that so that you can take it somewhere which can bring onto A1 or A2 paper
06:53:33 <Avatar> posterazor definitely doesn't have a default setting for a "poster" that big, strangely
06:53:37 <Avatar> you have to put in custom sizes
06:53:44 <Mekkis> really, Brunius?
06:53:45 <Mekkis> wow
06:54:16 <Avatar> inkscape does a grid overlay, a PDF reader or some PDF image extract will do the extraction, GIMP does colour sharpening
06:54:43 <Avatar> inkscape seems very difficult to use unless you know what you're looking for, in which case, it's very easy
06:57:02 <Brunius> I'm pretty sure there's open-source PDF image extraction out there
06:57:32 <Brunius> Mekkis, how does diebot parse input?
06:58:33 <Avatar> you could probably skip that part, it's pretty easy to right-click and save as
06:59:30 <Avatar> the whole point is to make it as easy as possible
07:02:08 <Avatar> check this out, someone's signup sheet to play a PFS module: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P0EtF2uW8-qJpxE1uy4RgsQHH3DkOu4uc0zHz1g2mXE/viewform?c=0&w=1
07:05:03 <Mekkis> Brunius, you free this Sunday for WotW?
07:05:17 <Brunius> Maybe, probably not
07:06:58 <Avatar> yeah you should work on that
07:15:47 <Avatar> don't think I'm going to be able to prepay conquest because I have no idea how sessions are billed
07:16:11 <Avatar> I thought a PFS session is 2 conquest sessions, but that doesn't seem to add up because they say get wrecked covers 13 sessions, and there's 14
07:19:00 <Mekkis> Saturday
07:25:33 <steven> I've just been letting people do whatever the hell they want.
07:25:59 <steven> when it comes to games lately.
07:29:05 <steven> i dont know if i'd want all that information as a gm.
07:29:34 <steven> like the vision...
07:30:29 <Mekkis> I'm not signing up for Monday until I know what's going on then
07:31:31 <Mekkis> Brunius, it's written in ruby: a lot of regexes. Want to discuss it?
07:31:49 <Brunius> I've been wondering whether to try to figure out regexes
07:32:42 <Mekkis> YES!
07:34:10 <Mekkis> but not with C/C++
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08:05:25 <Mekkis> you use gimp for colour sharpening?
08:16:03 <Avatar> too much neglecting sleep for pathfinder
08:16:06 <Avatar> I understand
08:35:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, challenge accepted
08:42:48 <Steven1> i slept from 2am to 6am and i took a nap at 11-noon... that should have been plenty of sleep
08:43:18 <Steven1> well... noonish.
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09:26:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, only thing I use gimp for is airbrushing over secret doors
10:15:28 <s_gmusic> http://imgur.com/a/t5qsp
10:15:29 <s_gmusic> http://imgur.com/a/pH6m1
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12:52:55 <steven> hey hey
13:33:15 <steven> 4 hours and i get to play skull and shackles....
13:33:43 <steven> this day is dragging by like christmas eve did when i was a child
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14:36:41 <steven> im just gonna buy a shit ton of vanities for my wizard....
14:43:29 <steven> i've got 62prestige.
14:52:27 <Steven1> day 5 migraine... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
15:55:16 <Steven1> blaaaaah
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17:01:53 <Avatar> Mekkis: if you try the levels trick, I doubt you'll go back to not using it
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17:21:42 <Avatar> blaaaaah
17:27:46 <s_gmusic> So.... a massive Wizard Tower?
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18:11:08 <steven> it just gives 10% off scribing costs.
18:16:18 <steven> my character has a blessed Book
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21:51:53 <Avatar> think I finally finished up my rebuild on my shaman
21:52:15 <Mekkis> you have a shaman?
21:53:36 <Avatar> yeah I rebuilt my druid
21:56:09 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=359
21:56:37 <Avatar> probably still has a few loose screws to fix
21:57:00 <Avatar> putting a point into cha was probably a mistake
22:00:30 <Avatar> that cut-paste job added a lot of extra shitty spaces into the spell list
22:18:57 <Goya> Steven : http://centralcitycomiccon.com/
22:19:57 <Goya> Nothing much there yet - and it's going to be small... But..
22:22:55 <Goya> If you know anyone at Paizo or in Tri-Cities - or if you wanted to make the trek.... I'm sure they would appreciate an RPG presence.
22:32:53 <Mekkis> what school should my wizard be, given that he's planning on being very blasty?
22:41:02 <Mekkis> Damn.
22:41:12 <Mekkis> I think I've chosen the same stat line I did with deceased
22:41:17 <Mekkis> Exactly the same one
22:41:29 <Mekkis> 10/14/12/20/8/8
22:42:55 <Mekkis> So: Fireball et al (Evocation, reflex); Glitterdust et al (Conjuration, will); Blindness/deafness (Necromancy, fort)
22:45:11 <Mekkis> I suppose Enchantment and Transmutation get the flick.
22:45:15 <Mekkis> Or Divination
22:45:48 <Mekkis> !hp 2d6m2+3
22:45:49 <diebot> Mekkis, 17
22:52:41 <Mekkis> !feat forge ring
22:52:47 <diebot> Mekkis, FORGE RING [Item Creation]Prereq: Caster level 7th. You can create magic rings.
22:52:47 <diebot> Benefit: You can create magic rings. Crafting a ring takes 1 day for each 1,000 gp in its base price. To craft a ring, you must use up raw materials costing half of the base price. See the magic item creation rules in Magic Items for more information. You can also mend a broken ring if it is one that you could make. Doing so costs half the raw
22:52:47 <diebot> materials and half the time it would take to forge that ring in the first place. Source: Core
23:02:44 <Mekkis> Brunius: in every place I've worked, regexes have been useful
23:15:48 <Steven1> ill pass it along to the VL down in that area
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