// #d&d — 2015-03-30
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01:34:26 <Avatar> this stupid map is 48 inches by 60 inches
01:34:39 <Avatar> A0 is 33.1 x 46.8
01:42:31 <Avatar> it's just dawned on me it's going to be cheaper to draw the whole thing and have a scaled A4 page for the players as a reference
02:21:53 <Avatar> yo
02:22:18 <Avatar> posterazor is better than foxit for splitting into pages
02:25:00 <steven> yo
02:55:51 <Avatar> Mekkis: did you get my email, you snob?
03:08:09 <ulzef> he did then he printed it just so he could shred it
03:08:45 <Avatar> a likely story
03:08:57 <Avatar> are you doing conquest
03:09:03 <ulzef> yep
03:09:06 <Avatar> I think we need more GMs for monday
03:09:12 <Avatar> like, desperately
03:09:17 <ulzef> thats the last day right
03:09:20 <Avatar> yeah
03:09:37 <ulzef> hmmm i dont think i had anything on that day
03:09:48 <Avatar> probably not, since nothing is scheduled
03:10:24 <Avatar> we're thinking about playing eyes 3 that day, but stephen will actually be playing with us, and can't if we don't get a few games going
03:11:40 <ulzef> hmmm i dont have anything for the sunday ether
03:12:03 <Avatar> have you played fate of the fiend
03:12:09 <ulzef> nope
03:12:30 <Avatar> I am probably going to ditch hall of the flesh eaters in favour of it
03:12:36 <ulzef> think i have only done finger prints
03:12:50 <Avatar> haven't even played fury?
03:13:09 <Avatar> it's more like the blakros series than a cohesive series I think
03:13:12 <ulzef> nah
03:13:41 <ulzef> thats in the morning i am doing sky key 3 or i would have signed for flesh eatters
03:15:13 <Avatar> I can only GM in the mornings unless I don't show up for a morning
03:15:31 <Avatar> I am usually wrecked to play an afternoon game let alone GM one
03:20:17 <steven> what nothin!?!
03:21:35 <Avatar> so you've never printed out a single map before
03:25:41 <steven> hi guys
03:35:29 <steven> i didnt say that.
03:35:47 <steven> I've done it before... costs too much in my opinion
03:37:26 <steven> so i draw my maps out.
03:47:08 <steven> i go through more dry erase markers, but i dont have to spend 15 bucks per map
04:13:22 <Avatar> what size paper did you use
04:20:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, I did. And I replied
04:20:42 <Mekkis> 1430 sounds like a good time. Should be able to buy supplies and lunch from the city beforehand
04:21:54 <steven> i dont remember... i just remember somebody used a marker on it
04:22:02 <steven> so it was ruined after that.
04:26:32 <Mekkis> Avatar, I've volunteered to run something on Monday now :S
04:31:41 <Avatar> you didn't reply
04:31:56 <Avatar> did you click the reply button or did you type in my whole email
04:32:13 <Mekkis> Clicked the reply button. at about 1710
04:32:22 <Avatar> oh wait, there it is
04:32:24 <Mekkis> I'm not on the network all the time
04:32:25 <Avatar> 5.01pm
04:32:33 <Avatar> I am not at work at 5.01pm
04:32:52 <Mekkis> I am not reachable by internet for most of the time I'm at work
04:33:02 <Avatar> what kind of terrible job is that
04:33:43 <Mekkis> the most awesome kind
04:34:37 <Avatar> okay well
04:34:47 <Avatar> we don't have time to get supplies at 1 if we needt o be there by 2.30
04:34:57 <Avatar> we need 90 minutes minimum
04:35:00 <Avatar> and also where are you staying
04:35:10 <Mekkis> South yarra
04:35:15 <Mekkis> Where I usually stay
04:35:26 <Mekkis> I meant By 1
04:35:34 <Avatar> okay that should be cool
04:35:45 <Avatar> you can actually book your own one if you want
04:35:57 <Mekkis> better to just book together right?
04:36:10 <Avatar> not really, because that means one of us would have to pay the other in cash or direct deposit
04:36:24 <Mekkis> I can do that.
04:36:33 <Avatar> you don't want to book online for yourself?
04:36:40 <Avatar> is this one of those anonymity things
04:36:42 <Mekkis> given the preference, no.
04:36:50 <Mekkis> pretty much
04:36:52 <Avatar> fair enough, port me over $40 and I'll cover you
04:37:20 <Mekkis> okay. How do you want it? Bank transfer, or should I just give you cash next week?
04:38:02 <Avatar> transfer is easiest
04:38:18 <Mekkis> okay. Want to give me your details over a skype call?
04:38:24 <Avatar> pm
04:38:37 <Mekkis> fine..
04:42:10 <Avatar> is it worth paying conquest in advance
04:42:17 <Avatar> http://www.conquest.asn.au/visitor-guide/entry-fees/
04:42:25 <Avatar> tonight is the point of no return apparently
04:51:41 <Brunius> it's one a dollar
04:51:45 <Brunius> only even
04:52:36 <Avatar> it didn't occur to me I'm going to miss scions altogether
04:52:46 <Avatar> well I guess it did occur to me and I forgot
04:53:47 <Avatar> anyone know what size a flipmat is
05:26:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, how goes the regexes?
05:34:01 <Brunius> about yea big
05:34:38 <Brunius> "
05:34:43 <Brunius> 30*24"
05:47:40 <Avatar> nice
05:48:27 <Avatar> still can't believe there isn't a standardised way to get maps printed yet
05:48:59 <Avatar> someone could probably make an app that does all of this and nothing else and make millions
06:04:59 <steven> make it?
06:10:32 <Mekkis> Brunius, how's the Brirc going?
06:18:38 <Mekkis> hehe. You can make Dancing Lights permanent
06:21:11 <Mekkis> What is this?
06:21:16 <Mekkis> I understand I will be required to physically exert myself and that it is possible I could injure myself during this activity and I am not affected by drugs or alcohol.
06:21:28 <Mekkis> Pretty sure that I AM affected by drugs or alcohol!
06:22:15 <Mekkis> I'd like to see someone who is unaffected by drugs or alcohol!
06:30:39 <Brunius> haven't messed with it yet
06:37:28 <Avatar> Brunius, get started
06:37:34 <Brunius> on what
06:37:44 <Avatar> making an app that does all of this and nothing else and make millions
06:38:57 <Avatar> it has to be able to extract a map from a PDF, draw gridlines that can be overlain on it, a few colour sharpening effects, cut into pages of whatever size you might need, auto-centre/auto-rotate options, and printed using those options
06:39:36 <Brunius> oh, is that all?
06:39:45 <Avatar> it sounds like a lot, but it's not
06:39:48 <Brunius> Yeah I'll just make that by tomorrow morning and then send it to you
06:39:56 <Avatar> mate take the time you need
06:39:59 <Avatar> this will make you millions
06:40:26 <Avatar> somehow nobody in the world has done it yet and the 100000 people playing pathfinder and just getting drawn maps or are working with GMs who are mathematicians
06:41:01 <Avatar> I've been working on this for days and no one person can give me straight answers to the whole process
06:42:38 <Avatar> even stephen's method apparently requires "trial and error", I don't know how many pages that kind of thing burns
06:42:46 <Avatar> hey brunius I need a dollar can you send it over pls
06:42:58 <Avatar> lol.
06:42:58 <Avatar> I won't pay it back but that's ok cuz it's only a dollar
06:43:23 <Avatar> just sign your life away
06:43:24 <Brunius> Nah i don't have internet banking, sorry
06:44:04 <Mekkis> Are you affected by drugs or alcohol?
06:45:14 <Brunius> what do you mean by 'colour sharpening effects'
06:46:06 <Avatar> you can make the colours in a map look much sharper than they are, which is better for a printed map
06:46:25 <Brunius> so you're messing with saturation or something?
06:46:41 <Avatar> do you have GIMP
06:46:48 <Brunius> yeah starting it up now
06:46:57 <Avatar> load up a map, go to Colours > Levels
06:47:25 <Avatar> move the left hand arrow a little to the right, and the right hand arrow a little to the left
06:47:41 <Avatar> so it covers the graph a bit more densely
06:47:57 <Brunius> I know I am
06:48:04 <Brunius> on input or output
06:48:47 <Avatar> hang on
06:49:13 <Avatar> input
06:49:28 <Avatar> there's 3 arrows there, not 2
06:49:39 <Brunius> yeah
06:50:18 <Brunius> I have no idea how you would do that via a program
06:50:27 <Brunius> Probably easiest to do it via calling the GIMP actually
06:50:50 <Avatar> well look maybe but it seems like you need 4 different programs and you need to know how to use all of them to do one speciifc thing in each of them
06:51:13 <Avatar> even some sort of shortcut tool that just does it for you would work
06:51:25 <Brunius> So you want a grid overlay, image extraction, colour sharpening, and then print that?
06:51:33 <Avatar> I'm trying to write up a document, but even that reads fairly complicated
06:51:59 <Avatar> before printing you have to be able to slice it up in however many pages you want, or place it wherever you want on those pages
06:52:09 <Avatar> posterazor or foxit/acrobat do that
06:52:28 <Avatar> foxit does it better than acrobat, I'm not sure where posterazor sits because I can't work it out
06:52:49 <Avatar> I think foxit alone should be able to do it
06:53:13 <Avatar> but I'm not sure it can save a map like that so that you can take it somewhere which can bring onto A1 or A2 paper
06:53:33 <Avatar> posterazor definitely doesn't have a default setting for a "poster" that big, strangely
06:53:37 <Avatar> you have to put in custom sizes
06:53:44 <Mekkis> really, Brunius?
06:53:45 <Mekkis> wow
06:54:16 <Avatar> inkscape does a grid overlay, a PDF reader or some PDF image extract will do the extraction, GIMP does colour sharpening
06:54:43 <Avatar> inkscape seems very difficult to use unless you know what you're looking for, in which case, it's very easy
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06:57:02 <Brunius> I'm pretty sure there's open-source PDF image extraction out there
06:57:32 <Brunius> Mekkis, how does diebot parse input?
06:58:33 <Avatar> you could probably skip that part, it's pretty easy to right-click and save as
06:59:30 <Avatar> the whole point is to make it as easy as possible
07:02:08 <Avatar> check this out, someone's signup sheet to play a PFS module: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P0EtF2uW8-qJpxE1uy4RgsQHH3DkOu4uc0zHz1g2mXE/viewform?c=0&w=1
07:05:03 <Mekkis> Brunius, you free this Sunday for WotW?
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07:05:17 <Brunius> Maybe, probably not
07:06:58 <Avatar> yeah you should work on that
07:15:47 <Avatar> don't think I'm going to be able to prepay conquest because I have no idea how sessions are billed
07:16:11 <Avatar> I thought a PFS session is 2 conquest sessions, but that doesn't seem to add up because they say get wrecked covers 13 sessions, and there's 14
07:19:00 <Mekkis> Saturday
07:25:33 <steven> I've just been letting people do whatever the hell they want.
07:25:59 <steven> when it comes to games lately.
07:29:05 <steven> i dont know if i'd want all that information as a gm.
07:29:34 <steven> like the vision...
07:30:29 <Mekkis> I'm not signing up for Monday until I know what's going on then
07:31:31 <Mekkis> Brunius, it's written in ruby: a lot of regexes. Want to discuss it?
07:31:49 <Brunius> I've been wondering whether to try to figure out regexes
07:32:42 <Mekkis> YES!
07:34:10 <Mekkis> but not with C/C++
08:05:25 <Mekkis> you use gimp for colour sharpening?
08:20:36 <Avatar> blaaaaah
08:35:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, challenge accepted
09:26:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, only thing I use gimp for is airbrushing over secret doors
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12:52:55 <steven> hey hey
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13:33:15 <steven> 4 hours and i get to play skull and shackles....
13:33:43 <steven> this day is dragging by like christmas eve did when i was a child
14:36:41 <steven> im just gonna buy a shit ton of vanities for my wizard....
14:43:29 <steven> i've got 62prestige.
15:55:16 <Steven1> blaaaaah
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17:01:53 <Avatar> Mekkis: if you try the levels trick, I doubt you'll go back to not using it
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17:21:05 <Avatar> (do they serve it on that short a flight)
17:21:28 <Mekkis> I'll have some sort of breakfast before I leave.
17:21:46 <Avatar> that's like a one hour flight right
17:22:00 <Avatar> you're going to starve man
17:22:19 <Mekkis> yeah. If you're not planning on leaving before, say 10, I'd look at heading to Vic markets.
17:22:19 <Avatar> we have to drive to far east melbourne, it's at least an hour
17:22:26 <Avatar> then 2 hours there
17:22:37 <Mekkis> Otherwise I'll grab something and handle it.
17:22:40 <Avatar> I mean even if I pick you up from the airport and we go straight there
17:22:52 <Avatar> snack food on the way might be the way to go I think?
17:23:01 <Mekkis> sure.
17:23:18 <Avatar> alright I'll book something today and email you just before I do
17:23:29 <Mekkis> cool. CC my work email in on it please.
17:23:39 <Avatar> I meant only to your work email
17:23:42 <Avatar> I don't know your personal email
17:23:44 <Mekkis> that works too
17:27:46 <s_gmusic> So.... a massive Wizard Tower?
18:04:51 <Steven1> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... im so tired of this migraine.
18:05:03 <Steven1> 4 days now.
18:10:20 <Avatar> make it stop pls
18:10:46 <Brunius> abra kadabra, alakazam
18:11:08 <steven> it just gives 10% off scribing costs.
18:12:36 <Steven1> whoa... no more pain.
18:12:39 <Steven1> brunius you the man
18:12:51 * Brunius takes a bow
18:13:12 <Steven1> i even GM'd tonight
18:13:27 <Avatar> that's why you're having migraines
18:13:29 <Avatar> constant GMing
18:14:05 <Steven1> well if people would step the fuck up and do their fair share of gming
18:15:02 <Steven1> i've Gm'd 4/9 slots this month.
18:16:09 <Steven1> i have one person who just flat refuses to gm... ever.
18:16:18 <steven> my character has a blessed Book
18:16:27 <Steven1> been coming down to play for like 2 years now.
18:16:48 <Mekkis> just don't schedule stuff he can play :P
18:17:00 <Steven1> i just put random things on the schedule.
18:17:38 <Steven1> unless someone specifically asks for something.
18:20:50 <Steven1> they are also a pain in the ass as a person because if someone says something they dont like they come get me to tell the person to stop...
18:22:07 <Steven1> because obviouly since i'm the VL that means im the babysitter.
18:22:22 <Brunius> well duh
18:23:11 <Mekkis> what are his reasons for not GMing?
18:23:13 <Steven1> i'd have to say thats the worst part about being a VO.
18:24:53 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure I didn't think I was going to GM ever at one point
18:25:20 <Steven1> people expect me to fight their battle for them... if you're 10years old and all the 20+ yo people are talking over you and telling you what to do. I will step in, cause you're a kid. If you're 25... open your god damned mouth and defend yourself.
18:27:30 <Steven1> seriously guys... this persons mother came in to sit in on a game after the person came and pulled me out of GMing a game because they felt the GM was targeting their character.
18:28:19 <Steven1> and i came out and was like, whats the situation, heres a solution. bye.
18:28:20 <Avatar> you should have then started targetting him
18:28:43 <Steven1> and then next week... momma bird came in to play with this 25yo.
18:28:55 <Steven1> to make sure her baby wasnt being picked on.
18:29:02 <Avatar> maybe she started to like pathfinder society ?
18:29:38 <Steven1> no... after the game day the mother and the person requested a meeting with me to discuss the incident.
18:30:13 <Avatar> did the meeting happen before or after she played
18:30:39 <Steven1> the mother didnt play... she sat at the table
18:31:14 <Avatar> did you get a chance to target him before the meeting
18:31:23 <Avatar> so you could admit that yes I was targetting him
18:31:43 <Steven1> nah i didnt GM, i was busy gming a different table.
18:31:45 <Avatar> how embarassing, being 25 and having your mother come in to fix it
18:32:02 <Steven1> would have been for me.
18:32:15 <Steven1> but then, my mom plays pfs now.
18:32:18 <Brunius> Sure he's not autistic or something?
18:32:31 <Brunius> That's pretty much the only situation in which I'd see that as okay
18:32:44 <Steven1> she has a dwarven bard who hits people with an improvised weapon rolling pin.
18:32:45 <Steven1> lol
18:33:00 <Steven1> nope, not autistic... just a royal pain in the ass.
18:34:22 <Steven1> They build VERY optimized characters and then complain to me whenever they get their feelings hurt.
18:34:48 <Steven1> like when the BBEG calls their female character a wench.
18:36:46 <Steven1> cause obviously thats a label put on the player right... the gm is totally calling the player a wench... well better go get the VL to straighten this GM out and by god if he doesnt tell this GM off next time im bringing my mother in and we will have a conversation about how name calling isnt appreciated!
18:37:33 <Steven1> i seriously need a stiff drink.
18:37:39 <Steven1> i'm fuckin annoyed.
18:38:03 <Steven1> brb, gonna get some scotch
18:40:04 <Steven1> well... i dont know if its going to be good for my head
18:40:10 <Steven1> but fuck its tasty
18:41:26 <Steven1> anyways... yeah.
18:41:41 <Steven1> had to GM tonight, didnt really want to.
18:41:56 <Steven1> missed out on what sounded like an epic game of Overflow Archives Core.
18:47:16 <Steven1> ran Icebound Outpost.
18:48:06 <Steven1> i dont understand why the neutral aligned baddies are the only ones who fight to the death.
18:48:15 <Steven1> because frankly they have the least motivation to do so.
18:55:13 <Mekkis> because the scenario writers are lazy?
19:03:10 <Mekkis> is it acceptable to ignore tactics when running an AP in PFS?
19:06:25 <Avatar> I think you can do it in campaign mode?
19:06:40 <Avatar> my understanding is all bets are off in campaign mode
19:06:51 <Avatar> either way you should ask/tell your players
19:15:42 <Steven1> its run as written whenever pfs is invovled unless campaign mode or player actions invalidate tactics/moral
19:26:08 <Mekkis> Do you want me to play this 20 int dragon intelligently
19:28:12 <Avatar> that's a very polite way to say can I ignore the tactics against this dragon to kill you as efficiently as possible
19:40:42 <Mekkis> It's more "Should I make this dragon NOT die in one round against you guys"
20:07:35 <Avatar> all of the above
20:08:47 <Mekkis> I'd like to hope motive comes into it
20:10:17 <Mekkis> plus, we are talking 13th level
20:12:12 <Avatar> preferred playstyle is more important than character level
20:25:53 <Mekkis> you'd rather cakeWalk the encounter in one round?\
21:11:41 <Avatar> if you're not overly interested in combat, then yes
21:44:13 <Mekkis> You know, the 'GM vs player' mentality goes both ways...
22:18:57 <Goya> Steven : http://centralcitycomiccon.com/
22:19:57 <Goya> Nothing much there yet - and it's going to be small... But..
22:22:55 <Goya> If you know anyone at Paizo or in Tri-Cities - or if you wanted to make the trek.... I'm sure they would appreciate an RPG presence.
23:02:44 <Mekkis> Brunius: in every place I've worked, regexes have been useful
23:15:48 <Steven1> ill pass it along to the VL down in that area
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