// #d&d — 2015-03-27
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02:55:51 <Avatar> Mekkis: did you get my email, you snob?
03:08:09 <ulzef> he did then he printed it just so he could shred it
03:08:45 <Avatar> a likely story
03:08:57 <Avatar> are you doing conquest
03:09:03 <ulzef> yep
03:09:06 <Avatar> I think we need more GMs for monday
03:09:12 <Avatar> like, desperately
03:09:17 <ulzef> thats the last day right
03:09:20 <Avatar> yeah
03:09:37 <ulzef> hmmm i dont think i had anything on that day
03:09:48 <Avatar> probably not, since nothing is scheduled
03:10:24 <Avatar> we're thinking about playing eyes 3 that day, but stephen will actually be playing with us, and can't if we don't get a few games going
03:11:40 <ulzef> hmmm i dont have anything for the sunday ether
03:12:03 <Avatar> have you played fate of the fiend
03:12:09 <ulzef> nope
03:12:30 <Avatar> I am probably going to ditch hall of the flesh eaters in favour of it
03:12:36 <ulzef> think i have only done finger prints
03:12:50 <Avatar> haven't even played fury?
03:13:09 <Avatar> it's more like the blakros series than a cohesive series I think
03:13:12 <ulzef> nah
03:13:41 <ulzef> thats in the morning i am doing sky key 3 or i would have signed for flesh eatters
03:15:13 <Avatar> I can only GM in the mornings unless I don't show up for a morning
03:15:31 <Avatar> I am usually wrecked to play an afternoon game let alone GM one
03:25:41 <steven> hi guys
03:30:23 <Avatar> phil
03:31:09 <Philderbeast> hey
03:36:16 <Steven1> sup
03:36:23 <Philderbeast> thnigs
03:36:44 <Steven1> no stuff?
03:37:09 <Philderbeast> some of that as well
03:39:47 <Avatar> steven
03:39:49 <Avatar> how do you print maps
03:39:56 <Avatar> or do you just draw thema ll
03:45:59 <Steven1> i draw them
04:05:31 <Avatar> it can't be as hard as it seems to be to get them printed from books
04:05:59 <Avatar> every thread I look at people talk about counting squares and dividing by x and all sorts of shiz
04:20:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, I did. And I replied
04:20:42 <Mekkis> 1430 sounds like a good time. Should be able to buy supplies and lunch from the city beforehand
04:26:32 <Mekkis> Avatar, I've volunteered to run something on Monday now :S
04:31:41 <Avatar> you didn't reply
04:31:56 <Avatar> did you click the reply button or did you type in my whole email
04:32:13 <Mekkis> Clicked the reply button. at about 1710
04:32:22 <Avatar> oh wait, there it is
04:32:24 <Mekkis> I'm not on the network all the time
04:32:25 <Avatar> 5.01pm
04:32:33 <Avatar> I am not at work at 5.01pm
04:32:52 <Mekkis> I am not reachable by internet for most of the time I'm at work
04:33:02 <Avatar> what kind of terrible job is that
04:33:43 <Mekkis> the most awesome kind
04:34:37 <Avatar> okay well
04:34:47 <Avatar> we don't have time to get supplies at 1 if we needt o be there by 2.30
04:34:57 <Avatar> we need 90 minutes minimum
04:35:00 <Avatar> and also where are you staying
04:35:10 <Mekkis> South yarra
04:35:15 <Mekkis> Where I usually stay
04:35:26 <Mekkis> I meant By 1
04:35:34 <Avatar> okay that should be cool
04:35:45 <Avatar> you can actually book your own one if you want
04:35:57 <Mekkis> better to just book together right?
04:36:10 <Avatar> not really, because that means one of us would have to pay the other in cash or direct deposit
04:36:24 <Mekkis> I can do that.
04:36:33 <Avatar> you don't want to book online for yourself?
04:36:40 <Avatar> is this one of those anonymity things
04:36:42 <Mekkis> given the preference, no.
04:36:50 <Mekkis> pretty much
04:36:52 <Avatar> fair enough, port me over $40 and I'll cover you
04:37:20 <Mekkis> okay. How do you want it? Bank transfer, or should I just give you cash next week?
04:38:02 <Avatar> transfer is easiest
04:38:18 <Mekkis> okay. Want to give me your details over a skype call?
04:38:24 <Avatar> pm
04:38:37 <Mekkis> fine..
04:43:02 <Mekkis> Avatar, just get someone to print them
04:43:08 <Brunius_> Avatar, currently functionality is only connect to a channel and don't disconnect
04:45:10 <Brunius_> for some reason they've blocked IRC an uni so I can't work on it there
04:48:35 <Avatar> the problem is fitting 8 A3 pages on a table
04:48:45 <Avatar> the bigger map I was looking at was 15 A3 pages
04:48:48 <Avatar> that's insane !
04:49:08 <Avatar> Brunius_: call it BrIRC in any case
04:49:54 <Avatar> well that's rude !
04:49:54 <Brunius_> that's not the right button
04:52:36 <Avatar> it didn't occur to me I'm going to miss scions altogether
04:52:46 <Avatar> well I guess it did occur to me and I forgot
04:53:47 <Avatar> anyone know what size a flipmat is
04:57:42 <Avatar> it just occurred to me that BrIRC doesn't actually sound like "brick" like I had hoped
05:06:21 <Mekkis> Brunius_, what language?
05:06:32 <Brunius_> c++
05:06:46 <Mekkis> ooh. Any framework?
05:06:55 <Mekkis> Have you uploaded it to github yet?
05:07:09 <Brunius_> I don't actually know what you mean by framework, and no
05:07:29 <Mekkis> Can I get a copy?
05:07:32 <Brunius_> I briefly tried using boost libraries but the tutorials weren't terribly good for a beginner
05:13:04 <Brunius_> It's currently undergoing conversion to an IRC bot, since I don't want to deal with multiple threads yet
05:13:11 <Brunius_> but I'll grab the link any second now...
05:13:49 <Brunius_> https://www.dropbox.com/home/VS13/brIRC
05:14:22 <Brunius_> I've been compiling in VS13, so I have no idea if it will cooperate with other compilers
05:17:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, doesn't work.
05:17:28 <Mekkis> the link
05:17:35 <Brunius> that's surprising
05:17:38 <Mekkis> needs logon
05:17:57 <Brunius> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ygopqbcfi2vksyf/AAAJs64wFSdUhB8r0g_fzHkWa?dl=0
05:18:01 <Brunius> does that work?
05:18:41 <Avatar> works, but it wanted me to log in
05:18:47 <Avatar> I don't think that's normal is it
05:20:38 <Brunius> dunno, I haven't tried sharing by folder before
05:26:37 <Mekkis> okay, got it
05:34:01 <Brunius> about yea big
05:34:38 <Brunius> "
05:34:43 <Brunius> 30*24"
05:35:44 <Mekkis> Brunius, it's missing an important bit
05:36:00 <Brunius> oh?
05:39:01 <Mekkis> you need to say PONG
05:41:52 <Mekkis> if (strncasecmp(data, "PING ", 4) == 0) /* Respond to pings */
05:41:52 <Mekkis> {
05:41:52 <Mekkis> data[1] = 'O'; /* Turn PING into PONG */
05:41:52 <Mekkis> int l = strlen(data);
05:41:52 <Mekkis> data[l] = '\r';
05:41:52 <Mekkis> data[l+1] = '\n';
05:41:54 <Mekkis> data[l+2] = 0;
05:41:56 <Mekkis> write(sockfd, data, strlen(data));
05:41:58 <Mekkis> printf("TRANS< %s\n", data); fflush(stdout);
05:42:00 <Mekkis> }
05:42:24 <Mekkis> Did you look at http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/minput_processing.c
05:46:33 <Brunius> Not recently
06:07:36 <Mekkis> Brunius, I suggest you move away from C++ and just use C.
06:10:32 <Mekkis> Brunius, how's the Brirc going?
06:15:11 <Brunius> I've been learning C in my uni lectures, so it wouldn't be too difficult to do
06:15:26 <Brunius> I only used C++ because it was most similar to what I already knew from arduino programming
06:18:08 <Mekkis> most of your C++ that you've written is pretty 'Cish'
06:18:13 <Mekkis> I'd call it C++--
06:18:38 <Mekkis> hehe. You can make Dancing Lights permanent
06:19:23 <Mekkis> I mean, without the std::string stuff, it's pretty much C
06:21:11 <Mekkis> What is this?
06:21:16 <Mekkis> I understand I will be required to physically exert myself and that it is possible I could injure myself during this activity and I am not affected by drugs or alcohol.
06:21:28 <Mekkis> Pretty sure that I AM affected by drugs or alcohol!
06:21:57 <Mekkis> also, you shouldn't need to use threads
06:22:15 <Mekkis> I'd like to see someone who is unaffected by drugs or alcohol!
06:22:47 <Mekkis> even when you're dealing with user input
06:42:58 <Avatar> lol.
06:43:23 <Avatar> just sign your life away
06:44:04 <Mekkis> Are you affected by drugs or alcohol?
06:47:57 <Brunius> I know I am
06:56:06 <Brunius> aren't recv() calls blocking?
06:58:27 <Mekkis> yes
06:58:28 <Mekkis> and no
06:59:03 <Mekkis> if the socket is non-blocking, no.
06:59:42 <Mekkis> read up on select()
07:00:24 <Mekkis> (or epoll())
07:03:29 <Mekkis> FD_ZERO(&input);
07:03:29 <Mekkis> FD_SET(sockfd, &input);
07:03:31 <Mekkis> FD_SET(fileno(f), &input);
07:03:33 <Mekkis> max_fd = __MAX__(fileno(f), sockfd) + 1;
07:03:35 <Mekkis> timeout.tv_sec = TIMEOUT;
07:03:37 <Mekkis> timeout.tv_usec = 0;
07:03:39 <Mekkis> n = select(max_fd, &input, NULL, NULL, &timeout);
07:03:41 <Mekkis> if (n < 0)
07:03:42 <Mekkis> {
07:03:44 <Mekkis> perror("select() failed!");
07:03:48 <Mekkis> exit(-6);
07:03:50 <Mekkis> }
07:03:52 <Mekkis> else if (n == 0)
07:03:54 <Mekkis> {
07:03:56 <Mekkis> //perror("TIMEOUT after 240 seconds");
07:03:58 <Mekkis> printf("."); fflush(stdout);
07:04:00 <Mekkis> }
07:05:03 <Mekkis> Brunius, you free this Sunday for WotW?
07:05:17 <Brunius> Maybe, probably not
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07:14:20 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Feb 22 23:01:30 2015
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07:19:00 <Mekkis> Saturday
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07:54:23 <Steven1> ugh.... that sucked
07:58:09 <Steven1> hate going to the store this early
08:02:42 <Steven1> well
08:02:48 <Steven1> i have 4 core character now.
08:03:56 <Steven1> elf Cleric/loremaster, halfling druid, elf fighter, elf Ranger
08:12:11 <Steven1> time to make a new level 1 so im always prepared
08:26:42 <s_gmusic> So.... a massive Wizard Tower?
08:42:16 <Mekkis> also: Brunius, try connecting on port 6666 from your uni. It might work
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09:10:04 <steven> it just gives 10% off scribing costs.
09:15:14 <steven> my character has a blessed Book
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12:52:55 <steven> hey hey
14:36:41 <steven> im just gonna buy a shit ton of vanities for my wizard....
14:43:29 <steven> i've got 62prestige.
16:51:33 <Avatar> mekkis have you booked your flights yet? give me times as soon as you have them
16:58:17 <Mekkis> Avatar, I have, and I did.
16:58:23 <Mekkis> I'll be atTullamarine at 0750.
16:59:48 <Avatar> how long do you think you'll need to get settled
17:19:46 <Mekkis> ten minutes. Actually, I probably won't be able to check in until the afternoon, so I could either leave my bag in your boot, or drop it in their luggage room.
17:20:49 <Avatar> yo
17:20:51 <Avatar> what about food
17:20:55 <Avatar> are you happy with plane food
17:21:05 <Avatar> (do they serve it on that short a flight)
17:21:28 <Mekkis> I'll have some sort of breakfast before I leave.
17:21:46 <Avatar> that's like a one hour flight right
17:22:00 <Avatar> you're going to starve man
17:22:19 <Mekkis> yeah. If you're not planning on leaving before, say 10, I'd look at heading to Vic markets.
17:22:19 <Avatar> we have to drive to far east melbourne, it's at least an hour
17:22:26 <Avatar> then 2 hours there
17:22:37 <Mekkis> Otherwise I'll grab something and handle it.
17:22:40 <Avatar> I mean even if I pick you up from the airport and we go straight there
17:22:52 <Avatar> snack food on the way might be the way to go I think?
17:23:01 <Mekkis> sure.
17:23:18 <Avatar> alright I'll book something today and email you just before I do
17:23:29 <Mekkis> cool. CC my work email in on it please.
17:23:39 <Avatar> I meant only to your work email
17:23:42 <Avatar> I don't know your personal email
17:23:44 <Mekkis> that works too
17:23:56 <steven> yo
18:19:13 <steven> what nothin!?!
18:20:30 <Avatar> so you've never printed out a single map before
18:34:25 <steven> i didnt say that.
18:34:42 <steven> I've done it before... costs too much in my opinion
18:36:22 <steven> so i draw my maps out.
18:46:04 <steven> i go through more dry erase markers, but i dont have to spend 15 bucks per map
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19:12:17 <Avatar> what size paper did you use
19:20:50 <steven> i dont remember... i just remember somebody used a marker on it
19:20:58 <steven> so it was ruined after that.
20:46:36 <Avatar> nice
20:47:22 <Avatar> still can't believe there isn't a standardised way to get maps printed yet
20:47:54 <Avatar> someone could probably make an app that does all of this and nothing else and make millions
21:03:54 <steven> make it?
21:36:23 <Avatar> Brunius, get started
21:36:30 <Brunius> on what
21:36:40 <Avatar> making an app that does all of this and nothing else and make millions
21:37:53 <Avatar> it has to be able to extract a map from a PDF, draw gridlines that can be overlain on it, a few colour sharpening effects, cut into pages of whatever size you might need, auto-centre/auto-rotate options, and printed using those options
21:38:32 <Brunius> oh, is that all?
21:38:41 <Avatar> it sounds like a lot, but it's not
21:38:43 <Brunius> Yeah I'll just make that by tomorrow morning and then send it to you
21:38:51 <Avatar> mate take the time you need
21:38:55 <Avatar> this will make you millions
21:39:22 <Avatar> somehow nobody in the world has done it yet and the 100000 people playing pathfinder and just getting drawn maps or are working with GMs who are mathematicians
21:39:57 <Avatar> I've been working on this for days and no one person can give me straight answers to the whole process
21:41:33 <Avatar> even stephen's method apparently requires "trial and error", I don't know how many pages that kind of thing burns
21:44:09 <Brunius> what do you mean by 'colour sharpening effects'
21:45:01 <Avatar> you can make the colours in a map look much sharper than they are, which is better for a printed map
21:45:20 <Brunius> so you're messing with saturation or something?
21:45:36 <Avatar> do you have GIMP
21:45:43 <Brunius> yeah starting it up now
21:45:53 <Avatar> load up a map, go to Colours > Levels
21:46:20 <Avatar> move the left hand arrow a little to the right, and the right hand arrow a little to the left
21:46:37 <Avatar> so it covers the graph a bit more densely
21:47:00 <Brunius> on input or output
21:47:42 <Avatar> hang on
21:48:09 <Avatar> input
21:48:24 <Avatar> there's 3 arrows there, not 2
21:48:35 <Brunius> yeah
21:49:13 <Brunius> I have no idea how you would do that via a program
21:49:23 <Brunius> Probably easiest to do it via calling the GIMP actually
21:49:46 <Avatar> well look maybe but it seems like you need 4 different programs and you need to know how to use all of them to do one speciifc thing in each of them
21:50:09 <Avatar> even some sort of shortcut tool that just does it for you would work
21:50:21 <Brunius> So you want a grid overlay, image extraction, colour sharpening, and then print that?
21:50:28 <Avatar> I'm trying to write up a document, but even that reads fairly complicated
21:50:54 <Avatar> before printing you have to be able to slice it up in however many pages you want, or place it wherever you want on those pages
21:51:04 <Avatar> posterazor or foxit/acrobat do that
21:51:24 <Avatar> foxit does it better than acrobat, I'm not sure where posterazor sits because I can't work it out
21:51:44 <Avatar> I think foxit alone should be able to do it
21:52:08 <Avatar> but I'm not sure it can save a map like that so that you can take it somewhere which can bring onto A1 or A2 paper
21:52:28 <Avatar> posterazor definitely doesn't have a default setting for a "poster" that big, strangely
21:52:32 <Avatar> you have to put in custom sizes
21:53:11 <Avatar> inkscape does a grid overlay, a PDF reader or some PDF image extract will do the extraction, GIMP does colour sharpening
21:53:38 <Avatar> inkscape seems very difficult to use unless you know what you're looking for, in which case, it's very easy
21:55:57 <Brunius> I'm pretty sure there's open-source PDF image extraction out there
21:57:29 <Avatar> you could probably skip that part, it's pretty easy to right-click and save as
21:58:26 <Avatar> the whole point is to make it as easy as possible
22:01:04 <Avatar> check this out, someone's signup sheet to play a PFS module: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P0EtF2uW8-qJpxE1uy4RgsQHH3DkOu4uc0zHz1g2mXE/viewform?c=0&w=1
22:24:28 <steven> I've just been letting people do whatever the hell they want.
22:24:54 <steven> when it comes to games lately.
22:28:00 <steven> i dont know if i'd want all that information as a gm.
22:28:30 <steven> like the vision...
23:04:21 <Mekkis> you use gimp for colour sharpening?
23:12:55 Andros414 is now known as s_gmusic
23:34:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, challenge accepted
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