// #d&d — 2013-02-09
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00:00:03 <Ulzef> does DB like anyone?
01:01:36 <Mekkis> !spell planar binding, lesser
01:01:51 <diebot> Mekkis, PLANAR BINDING, LESSER conjuration (calling[see text]) sorcerer/wizard 5, summoner 4 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels); see text one elemental or outsider with 6 HD or less Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates SR:no and yes; see text
01:01:51 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/planar_binding,_lesser.html
01:12:46 <Ballig> what's a hairy gut monk
01:13:06 <Avatar> did that joker end up coming back
01:15:23 <Ballig> no
01:16:43 <Avatar> I didn't notice he was trying to pretend to be a girl
01:16:47 <Avatar> he did a pretty woeful job of it
01:17:14 <Ballig> haha yeah I just read up then too
01:17:20 <Ballig> the text I got from kapow
01:17:26 <Ballig> KAPOW: Troll in channel can you ban it?
01:17:28 <Ballig> ME: at work, get Avatar
01:17:35 <Ballig> KAPOW: I text all 3 of you. Avatar killed himself apparnetly.
01:17:42 <Avatar> nice
01:17:54 <Ballig> I actually didn't properly read that last one until I'm on my way home
01:18:00 <Ballig> and I thought the troll was trying to convince people you committed suicide
01:18:14 <Avatar> maybe I'm just suicidal
01:18:18 <Ballig> are you
01:18:19 <Ballig> you can talk to me
01:18:23 <Avatar> maybe
01:18:25 <Avatar> it's a mystery
01:18:30 <Ballig> I'm here for you
01:18:32 <Avatar> thx
01:21:15 <Avatar> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006691271/foam-brain-dice-metals
01:22:54 <Brunius> There are already solid metal RPG dice out there...
01:24:18 <Ballig> that's what I was thinking
01:24:34 <Ballig> they "sell hundreds of sets of dice a week" and apparently don't already have a supplier of metal dice
01:32:30 <Avatar> these are special though
01:32:32 <Hydrazine> huh. +12 attack roll at level 2..
01:32:54 <Ballig> what makes them special
01:41:07 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, that's not that hard is it?
01:41:45 <Hydrazine> Dunno, I'm not that sharp on all the other options. Seems high.
01:41:55 <Hydrazine> I was just leveling up Spork.
01:44:41 <Mekkis> it's games like last night's that justify the fact that almost all of my characters are spellcasters
01:45:08 <Avatar> what happened
01:45:11 <Mekkis> oh
01:45:23 <Mekkis> 3 barbarians, a monk, and a non-spellcasting paladin
01:45:40 <Brunius> and they all got hit with a black tentacles
01:45:42 <Brunius> then a web
01:45:43 <Brunius> amirite
01:45:51 <Avatar> probably not at tier 1-5
01:45:57 <Hydrazine> colorspray!
01:46:01 <Ballig> I'm sure they wre destroying everything
01:46:07 <Mekkis> no deaths, but as far as Pathfinding is concerned, as agents, they weren't very good at the whole Exploring and Reporting
01:46:09 <Hydrazine> We rolled shit mostly.
01:46:37 <Ballig> in what way didn't they report
01:46:59 <Mekkis> for some reason, they managed to complete both Qadiran faction missions where none of them were of that faction.
01:47:14 <Ballig> that sounds like exploring
01:48:05 <Ballig> when I played it I almost completed the cheliax faction mission despite not being cheliax
01:48:16 <Ballig> the only thing that stopped me was the GM didn't properly describe one of the aspects
01:48:49 <Avatar> hey, that was the book's fault
01:48:57 <Mekkis> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dicehateme/compounded-better-gaming-through-chemistry?ref=live
01:50:40 <Mekkis> how would you adjudicate Charm monster/person?
01:50:55 <Ballig> in what context
01:51:07 <Mekkis> in "I cast it on the guard"
01:51:32 <Ballig> need more context
01:53:12 <MekkisScreen> I'm in a town, I need to get some information as to the whereabouts of $NPC, and I speak to the guard and he tells me to fuck off. I then cast Charm Person on the guard.
01:53:47 <Ballig> assuming it's successful, the expected outcome would be that the guard would become friendly and willing to give limited assistance
01:54:04 <Ballig> which may include location of $NPC, depending on whether the guard knew where $NPC was and what the consequences would be for him for telling you where $NPC is
01:54:05 <Avatar> is it something he'd tell a friend
01:54:16 <Avatar> or is he just willing to go to the tavern with you
01:54:21 <Avatar> when he's off duty
01:55:38 <Ballig> e.g. if I'm standing outside and someone asks where my neighbour is, and I'm in a pissed-off mood, I might tell him to fuck off. if he then cast charm person on me, and I knew where my neighbour was, and the consequences of telling that person were likely negligible, I'd probably tell them
01:56:05 <Ballig> but if I work for ASIS and that person is asking me the confidential location of a government spy, even with charm person I probably wouldnt' say anything
01:56:13 <MekkisScreen> he wouldn't go OMG Spellcasting! Attack!
01:56:47 <Ballig> I can see why someone might adjudicate in that way, but I think it's unfair
01:57:27 <Ballig> there are a lot of those kinds of spells that are only really useful outside of combat, and if you can't cast any spells outside of combat without it being considered a hostile action, it seriously cripples characters who use those spells
01:58:28 <Avatar> he has to spellcraft it
01:58:29 <Ballig> spellcasting is so ubiquitous in worlds like this that I don't think everyone should be immediately assuming a spell is hostile
01:58:46 <Ballig> assuming no spellcraft, for all the guard knows the person is just casting guidance
01:59:00 <Ballig> or augury
01:59:07 <Avatar> if spellcasting is forbidden in that setting, then he should go omg attack
01:59:12 <Avatar> but otherwise yeah
01:59:18 <Ballig> yeah, if it's a cultural thing that's understandable
01:59:26 <Ballig> and a challenge that players would likely be aware of beforehand
01:59:27 <Avatar> consider it like a player as well
01:59:44 <Avatar> does an npc spellcasting like that automatically make the player suspicious if they can't tell what it is?
02:00:15 <Ballig> Buck attacks people at the drop of a hat
02:00:23 <Ballig> "she's leaving the room! kill her!"
02:00:23 <Ballig> :p
02:00:45 <MekkisScreen> yes, but only because GMs don't describe NPC spellcasting unless it's detrimental
02:01:07 <Avatar> that's metagaming
02:01:16 <MekkisScreen> true
02:01:34 <MekkisScreen> then again, all my characters have spellcraft.
02:01:35 <Ballig> the reason they don't describe it is because it's ubiquitous and such a normal part of every day life
02:01:45 <MekkisScreen> if they fail to identify, the assume it's benighn
02:01:54 <Ballig> if you successfully spellcraft a spell and know it's charm person, you can rightly be offended by that
02:01:55 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: agreed
02:02:13 <Avatar> that is grounds for combat
02:02:37 <Avatar> if someone is trying to cast charm person and I don't know why, I'm probably not going to say well that's rude
02:02:37 <MekkisScreen> what about casting Message?
02:02:51 <Avatar> message is talking
02:03:02 <MekkisScreen> you'd say "what's your touch AC"?
02:03:12 <Avatar> what
02:03:17 <Ballig> or if the guard succeeds on the saving throw. they'd "feel a hostile force or a tingle"
02:03:25 <Ballig> probably a tingle in the case of charm person, I don't know that it's necessarily 'hostile'
02:03:27 <Avatar> yeah
02:03:27 <MekkisScreen> Mytiazair has set off two combats by casting message...
02:03:35 <Avatar> they dont' even need spellcraft
02:04:09 <Ballig> that GM (or GMs) is probably being a bit unfair against spellcasters
02:04:30 <MekkisScreen> in his career
02:04:50 <Ballig> unless it's a super tense situation with a paranoid combatant
02:05:00 <Ballig> kind of like being shot because it looked like you were reaching for a gun
02:05:16 <Avatar> it all usually happens pretty quickly
02:06:58 <MekkisScreen> different GMs, at least 16 months apart
02:06:58 <MekkisScreen> it was in the sanguine pit...
02:09:08 <Avatar> what words did you say when you casted it
02:09:18 <Avatar> you are usually pretty cloak and dagger about these things, even to GMs
02:09:31 <MekkisScreen> "I cast message on the party"
02:09:41 <Avatar> "roll for initiative" ?
02:10:13 <MekkisScreen> no. The amazonian women comes up to you, rolls intimidate, and say "OUT!"
02:12:05 <MekkisScreen> pretty clear response
02:12:42 <MekkisScreen> is there any way to increase your dispell checks?
02:13:17 <Ballig> levelling
02:13:33 <MekkisScreen> that doesn't work
02:15:26 <Avatar> pretty sure it does
02:17:18 <MekkisScreen> nope. the enemy caster's level increases at the same rate
02:17:50 <MekkisScreen> you always need around a 13+ to successfully dispell
02:18:36 <Ballig> no I mean you level when they don't level
02:19:12 <MekkisScreen> you're saying "Play down"?
02:19:51 <Ballig> just level
02:20:18 <MekkisScreen> I'm talking PFS...
02:20:24 <Ballig> yeah
02:20:27 <MekkisScreen> that's not really an option
02:20:59 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 7th 8:30pm (tier 1-5, Mekkis), Sun 10th 10am (tier 1-5, Avatar) | WotW: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
02:20:59 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Feb 6 16:46:38 2013
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02:26:30 <Avatar> you asked about how to increase it
02:26:39 <Avatar> not how to match the bad guys as you both level up
02:27:25 <MekkisScreen> how can you increase it without levelling
02:27:48 <Avatar> isn't there a trait or a boon or something that increases caster level
02:27:55 <Avatar> of one spell
02:28:06 <Ballig> gifted adept
02:28:24 <MekkisScreen> there's Varisian Tattoo, and gifted adept
02:28:37 <MekkisScreen> any items?
02:28:38 <Brunius> There's a boon from a certain module that does the same thing, I think
02:28:48 <Avatar> Cairo got varisian tattoo, didn't use it very well I dont' think
02:29:07 <MekkisScreen> he did?
02:29:13 <MekkisScreen> !find Cairo
02:29:13 <dicebot> MekkisScreen, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=270
02:29:19 <Ballig> dispelling weapon
02:30:22 <MekkisScreen> link?
02:30:29 <Ballig> ultimate equipment
02:30:35 <MekkisScreen> or is it a spell?
02:30:39 <Ballig> cost is +1 bonus, it's a spell storing weapon that can only store dispel magic
02:30:46 <Ballig> and grants a bonus to your check equal to the enhancement bonus of the weapon
02:31:21 <MekkisScreen> ah, but yoou need to hit them?
02:32:08 <Ballig> I'd say so
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02:46:12 <Avatar> shit I have to find another feat for cairo
02:46:41 <Avatar> when I level him up 2 levels
02:50:23 <Ballig> just retire him
02:52:34 <Avatar> I'm not putting any more chronicles on him
02:52:40 <Avatar> but I might have to use him later
03:24:30 <Ulzef> hi all
03:27:59 <Avatar> yo
03:35:29 <Nekhet> hi
04:23:01 * Steven waves tiredly
04:23:34 <Steven> 57/60 tables of credit
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04:43:51 <Steven> hey avatar
04:58:51 <Ulzef> Mekkis: you around?
05:01:16 <Brunius> Chances are he's at FNM
05:01:45 <Ulzef> fairy snuff
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08:58:25 <Ulzef> !throw 1d10+7; 1d10+7; 1d10+7; 1d10+7
08:58:26 <diebot> Ulzef, 1d10+7: [1d10=4] 11; 1d10+7: [1d10=2] 9; 1d10+7: [1d10=8] 15; 1d10+7: [1d10=4] 11
09:00:35 <Ulzef> does DB like anyone?
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10:23:56 <Steven> whole lot of quiet in here today
10:24:19 <Steven> 2.5 hr till Wotw or was that set back?
10:24:31 <Avatar> you're pretty quiet in the pm I'm trying to send you
10:24:44 <Avatar> WotW was postponed until mekkis works out a new time
10:24:48 <Steven> BY CHOICE
10:24:54 <Steven> also, i didnt notice it
10:25:13 <Steven> yeah, i said yesterday i would GM it
10:25:22 <Avatar> ok reconfirming
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10:50:00 <JJ> Hey guys
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12:20:54 <Steven> so freakin tired
12:22:20 <Steven> of
12:22:21 <Steven> people
12:24:13 <Avatar> tell them to go f themselves
12:27:49 <Mekkis> that's stage 2 of being a VL, right?
12:28:05 <Mekkis> people Start Pissing You Off
12:31:24 <Avatar> that's stage 2 of life
12:31:52 <Steven> sadly as a VL i dont get to tell people to go fuck themselves.
12:32:08 <Avatar> that seems like a rort
12:32:10 <Steven> unless of course, its my VC... then we just have a good laugh
12:32:19 <Mekkis> yeah
12:32:39 <Avatar> so tell them to go f themselves and have a good laugh
12:32:52 <Steven> now i ineed to figure out what games i want to run at this con....
12:33:03 <Mekkis> being a VL: you have to coordinate a lot of people, deal with insistent losers, and spend heaps of time getting things together. On the plus side, you DO save $8 per month on scenarios!
12:33:40 <Steven> yes and get all sorts of little perks along the way
12:33:53 <Steven> like getting first pick on scenarios i want to play at paizocon
12:34:03 <Steven> or in my case GM at paizocon
12:37:12 <Mekkis> but that's nothing compared to saving $8 a month on scenarios
12:39:02 * Steven shrugs...
12:39:24 <Steven> i dunno... getting first pick means i get 10 dollars for every slot I GM for at paizocon... so
12:39:38 <Steven> im making some fat paizo cash just for going to paizocon
12:39:44 <Mekkis> but every GM at paizocon gets that too, right?
12:39:51 <Steven> yeah
12:39:57 <Mekkis> run Asmodeus Mirage
12:41:21 <Steven> im gonna get 60 bucks on my paizo account just for going to paizocon
12:41:25 <Steven> so thats pretty sweet
12:41:45 <Steven> plus they refunded my ticket
12:41:55 <Steven> so.... free paizocon... tastes like win
12:42:02 <Steven> im pretty happy bout it
12:42:16 <Steven> I want some jerky
12:42:34 <Mekkis> so do I
12:42:42 <Steven> i am not going back to the store though
12:42:48 <Steven> that place is a madhouse right now
12:44:45 <Mekkis> wow
12:45:08 <Mekkis> I'm impressed. I managed to convert pdf to svg without completely trashing it
12:45:49 * Steven high fives mekkis
12:46:07 <Mekkis> now I can craft these chronicle sheets properly
12:46:24 <Avatar> you mean forge
12:46:28 <Mekkis> no
12:46:30 <Mekkis> I mean fill out
12:46:47 <Avatar> pretty sure you can fill out pdfs
12:46:58 <Mekkis> yeah, but it's not as pretty
12:48:33 <Mekkis> Is it a good idea, Steven, to add season-4 style fields for dayjob etc to the chronicle sheet?
12:49:52 <Steven> do not alter any chronical sheets from their current form.
12:50:02 <Steven> even if it is an improvement in functionality
12:52:40 <Mekkis> what about the chronicle sheet for Before The Dawn II I made for my then-local VC
12:52:48 <Mekkis> (he's only 1000 miles away)
12:53:57 <Mekkis> (I fixed the bit where it said "Before the Dawn I" at the top and replaced it with "Before the Dawn II"
12:54:14 <Steven> Probably shouldnt have done that.
12:54:33 <Mekkis> in my defence, I gave him before and after
12:55:07 <Steven> Any alterations to a chronical sheet can invalidate the chronical sheet if a Gm wants to be a hardass during an audit
12:55:32 <Avatar> do it mekkis
12:56:07 <Mekkis> how long does it take you to do an audit, Steven?
12:56:27 <Steven> as a GM i wouldnt give a shit at all, as a VL i am giving you possible negative consequences.
12:56:45 <Steven> depends on how well people have kept their sheets in order
12:56:47 <Avatar> I would audit you and say you can't take credit
12:56:51 <Avatar> + to level down your character
12:57:05 <Avatar> would I be in my rights steven
12:57:36 <Steven> No, you would audit the character, inform him of any inconsistances and give him an opportunity to correct them.
12:57:52 <Steven> if he refuses you would report him to the local VO
12:57:57 <Avatar> yeah an opportunity to find the right chronicle sheet
12:58:02 <Avatar> but what if they can't produce it
12:58:20 <Avatar> report him to the local VO for cheating
12:58:54 <Steven> for... problems with his chronicle sheets.
12:59:49 <Mekkis> is Hydralaptop spork or fork?
13:00:11 <Avatar> I think he's spork
13:00:21 <Steven> then you decide if you want to let him play at your table
13:01:20 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you fix that reporting issue regarding Jester's Fraud and Deceased's prestige?
13:02:59 <Avatar> haven't looked yet, forgot about it
13:03:21 <Avatar> what faction were you
13:03:34 <Mekkis> he's a diabolist.
13:03:44 <Mekkis> starts with a C
13:03:50 <Mekkis> Ends in "hiliax"
13:03:56 <Avatar> hey I have a sczarni paladin
13:04:09 <Mekkis> sorry
13:04:12 <Mekkis> "heliax"
13:04:47 <Avatar> I don't think you got the name of the heir did you
13:04:56 <Mekkis> I don't remember
13:05:08 <Steven> avatar... incomming Silver Crusade Diabolist
13:05:11 <Mekkis> all I can tell is that I have a chronicle sheet with 1 Prestige on it
13:05:22 <Mekkis> and Paizo's website saying 0 prestige
13:05:24 <Avatar> the one I've got says 0
13:05:45 <Mekkis> could be the other way around
13:06:24 <Mekkis> no. the one you sent my by email says 1
13:06:50 <Hydralaptop> Now you've made the mistake of asking who is who, so clearly they switch names now mekkis
13:07:08 <Mekkis> Hydralaptop, I'm asking out-of-character, for reporting purposes
13:07:16 <Mekkis> could I also get the character's PFS number?
13:07:25 * Avatar has offered 156-Deceased-20121223_10339-3.pdf (112597 bytes)
13:07:25 * DCC RECV connect attempt to Avatar failed (err=Connection refused).
13:07:34 <Mekkis> * DCC RECV connect attempt to Avatar failed (err=Connection refused).
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13:07:48 <Steven> Should probably give him the info so you get credit for the scenario
13:07:48 <Hydralaptop> Yeah you'd probably need that
13:08:05 <Mekkis> could you... ummm... email it?
13:08:34 <Hydralaptop> Sec, finding it. Was temporarily Fork and not Spork.
13:10:14 * Tashes bonks Fork on the head with a rotting salmon
13:10:35 <Hydralaptop> PM'ed it to you. All clear now?
13:11:01 <Mekkis> yep
13:11:16 <Mekkis> Tashes, could you please PM me fork()'s PFS #?
13:14:25 <Steven> 57/60
13:14:40 <Steven> for 3 stars....
13:14:51 <Steven> look like im gettin my 3rd star on wednesday
13:15:22 <Mekkis> does Walter give out certificates for that sort of thing?
13:15:41 <Mekkis> I'm up to 55
13:17:51 <Steven> I could probably get one if i told him i was getting my 3rd star
13:18:13 <Mekkis> is UE on the PRD?
13:20:21 <Mekkis> would Wild armour with with Alternate Form?
13:20:44 <Steven> i dunno i think so
13:25:40 <Hydralaptop> boobies!
13:26:00 <Steven> are glorious
13:26:19 <Tashes> yes
13:26:25 <Mekkis> indeed
13:26:42 <Steven> i was so looking forward to playing tonight
13:28:14 <Steven> hard to find a game that i can just sit down and play
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13:43:57 <gandhi_the_destroyer> greetz to all.
13:44:48 <gandhi_the_destroyer> so, seeing as how i live in a shitty city in texas where NO ONE plays pathfinder with a population of 500,000+.... how might i go about playing with some of you guys?
13:45:24 <gandhi_the_destroyer> i.e software, time (i'm gmt -7... what the hell does that translate to?), etc.
13:46:19 <Avatar> register on the site with whatever nickname you plan to use in here
13:49:35 <gandhi_the_destroyer> okay.... done that, just one question... is it all pathfinder society play? i'm unfamiliar with "tiers"
13:50:40 <Ulzef> mekkis: do you do the 4 d 10 rolls on here?
13:51:00 <Steven> okays im back
13:51:03 <Steven> had to start dinner
13:51:05 <Ulzef> sorry just ducked on before we run something IRRL
13:53:37 <Steven> i wanna do something...
13:53:57 <Steven> time to get me some pfs goin on
13:54:01 <Hydralaptop> tiers is just what level range the scenario is set to.
13:54:16 <gandhi_the_destroyer> so i can create a character of any level?
13:54:24 <Hydralaptop> no. you create a level 1.
13:54:45 <gandhi_the_destroyer> okay... how are scores handled? 3d6? 4d6 drop lowest? points?
13:54:52 <Steven> point buy
13:55:04 <gandhi_the_destroyer> as per core rulebook or society play?
13:55:11 <Hydralaptop> the pathfinder society field guide is really your biggest go-to for all the specifics. its a free download from the Paizo site.
13:55:40 <gandhi_the_destroyer> si, thank you... i think i have a pdf of that SOMEwhere....
13:56:03 <Hydralaptop> They update it from time to time. Check the site to make sure you got the right version.
13:56:09 <Hydralaptop> Some of the changes are decently big.
13:56:28 <gandhi_the_destroyer> but to clear most of the confusion, one i have my character made and the sheet filled in, how does this work? - checking paizo.com brb.
13:56:35 <Hydralaptop> But yeah, like Steve says, it is point buy, but there are other Society specific rules as wel.
13:57:24 <Hydralaptop> We have a program you can get from the site here, (pfrpg.com.au) to do mapping, bots to handle die rolls here.
13:57:31 <Hydralaptop> !throw 1d20+2 example roll
13:57:31 <diebot> Hydralaptop, example roll: [1d20=13] 15
13:58:36 <gandhi_the_destroyer> nifty
13:58:48 <gandhi_the_destroyer> !throw 2d8+6
13:58:48 <diebot> gandhi_the_destroyer, 2d8+6: [2d8=2,8] 16
13:59:44 <Steven> so... who wants to pick up game?
13:59:46 <Hydralaptop> And we usually add in a skype call for chatter and lulz.
13:59:57 <Hydralaptop> Tash and I are going out in a minute, Steven. Sorry.
14:00:07 <Hydralaptop> But I do want to try out L2 orcs soon.
14:00:09 <Steven> yeah but nobody likes you or tash!
14:00:30 <Steven> okay thats a lie... you guys are pretty fun
14:00:40 <Hydralaptop> They miss Honey.
14:00:45 <gandhi_the_destroyer> how many players on average per session?
14:00:48 <Hydralaptop> No leadership without Honey.
14:00:54 <Steven> honey is so... so... so... higher level then them now
14:01:19 <Hydralaptop> Min. table is 4. Last night we had 5. I think we did 7 once, it was a mess.
14:01:44 <Steven> tomorrow we are running two tables at the same time
14:01:51 <Hydralaptop> If theres three, you can toss in an NPC to hit min. table and rock out.
14:02:37 <gandhi_the_destroyer> tomorrow what time? it's 9pm where i'm at now...
14:05:58 <gandhi_the_destroyer> um, also.... how do you guys balance out the classes? standard (rog/clr/wiz/ftr??) or you guys just mix it up and run wit it?
14:06:39 <Steven> mix it up and run with it
14:07:08 <Hydralaptop> Last time it was 3 barbarians, a monk, and a paladin.
14:07:16 <Hydralaptop> ...we were so bad at ranged combat.
14:10:25 <gandhi_the_destroyer> lol... always a bummer against flying enemies....
14:13:06 <Hydralaptop> K, later!
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14:35:46 <Ulzef_ipad> mekkis: you there
14:37:06 <Ulzef_ipad> about to run a pfs game and wondering if i can get the cert
14:37:25 <gandhi_the_destroyer> quick question: do you still get the extra hp or skill point at every level you take your favored class?
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14:50:41 <Steven> yes
15:05:20 <Mekkis> who is this descructive gandhi?
15:09:59 <gandhi_the_destroyer> new guy from texas.
15:10:41 <gandhi_the_destroyer> can't find a game here in my shitty little city, so i figured i'd try halfway around the globe.
15:16:41 <Mekkis> Steven, how legal is it to change a character's name?
15:32:12 <gandhi_the_destroyer> anyone else notice that the pdf form we fill out doesn't seem to want to handle skill ranks right??
15:32:28 <Mekkis> no: I don't use the PDF form
15:32:34 <Mekkis> (what PDF form?)
15:32:53 <gandhi_the_destroyer> the char sheet on the website...
15:33:05 <gandhi_the_destroyer> am i filling out for no reason?
15:33:33 <gandhi_the_destroyer> pfrpg.com.au to be specific.
15:34:05 <Mekkis> oh, that's one way of filling out a character sheet. I've personally never tried it
15:34:44 <gandhi_the_destroyer> it leans a little to the left and to the whack....
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15:35:53 <gandhi_the_destroyer> at any rate, i have my character drawn up (on paper at least), what do i need to do to play a game with you fine people now?
15:36:05 <gandhi_the_destroyer> or in the future....
15:36:52 <Mekkis> sign up for the game, make sure that there's a reasonably accurate version of your character sheet available on the site, and turn up for the game.
15:37:16 <gandhi_the_destroyer> lol.... reasonably....
15:37:38 <Mekkis> feel free to see what other character sheets look like
15:37:42 <Mekkis> !findchar Cairo
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15:37:53 <Mekkis> !find Cairo
15:37:54 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=270
15:37:57 <Mekkis> !find Buck
15:37:58 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308
15:38:01 <Mekkis> !find Mytiazair
15:38:03 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=148
15:38:04 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=284
15:38:06 <Mekkis> !find deceased
15:38:08 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=285
15:38:31 <Mekkis> !find ghandi
15:38:32 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=233
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15:41:45 <Steven> yeah you need to post your character sheet for other people... im way lax about it lol
15:42:04 <Mekkis> !find honey
15:42:05 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=528
15:42:32 <Steven> wonder what my sheet looks like
15:42:36 <gandhi_the_destroyer> still fracking with the pdf form... is there an easier way to post my character?
15:43:05 <Mekkis> is Elder Thing a language? what about Vegepygmy?
15:43:37 <Steven> they are languages...
15:43:40 <Mekkis> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=<yourID> ?
15:44:48 <Mekkis> gandhi_the_destroyer, if you're familiar with LaTeX, you can try using my toolchain, but it's not for the faint of heart
15:45:43 <gandhi_the_destroyer> the only thing i'm having a problem with is the pdf form won't allow me my extra skill point....
15:46:12 <gandhi_the_destroyer> tells me i've got too many... 3 skill points.... too many.... sure.
15:46:22 <gandhi_the_destroyer> :|
15:46:28 <Mekkis> can't you ignore it
15:47:01 <gandhi_the_destroyer> i decided to move on and come back to it after i have the rest of it filled out... almost there....
15:53:58 <Mekkis> Steven, question.
15:54:18 <Mekkis> I have a sorcerer, he's just hit level 4. I want to take Hideous Laughter as my 2nd level spell.
15:54:31 <Mekkis> But at level 5, he'll get Hideous laughter as his bloodline spell.
15:54:41 <Mekkis> Would he get to "trade it out"?
15:54:50 <Mekkis> or is this a DADT thing?
16:09:23 <Steven> check the entry in the core rulebook
16:09:29 <Steven> im not familiar with sorcs
16:09:53 <Mekkis> it doesn't say either way
16:10:08 <Steven> then the answer would be no
16:10:20 <gandhi_the_destroyer> i would agree...
16:10:44 <Steven> i went and looked up sorc... its quite clear
16:10:46 <gandhi_the_destroyer> the core doesn't state that you can switch it out if you gained the spell through another class ability or whatnot.
16:10:47 <Steven> Upon reaching 4th level, and at every even-numbered sorcerer level after that (6th, 8th, and so on), a sorcerer can choose to learn a new spell in place of one she already knows. In effect, the sorcerer loses the old spell in exchange for the new one. The new spell's level must be the same as that of the spell being exchanged. A sorcerer may swap only a single spell at any given level, and must
16:10:47 <Steven> choose whether or not to swap the spell at the same time that she gains new spells known for the level.
16:11:30 <Steven> This provides a mechanism for changing spells.
16:12:29 <gandhi_the_destroyer> tho bloodline spells are "These spells are in addition to the number of spells given on Table 3-15. These spells cannot be exchanged for different spells at higher levels."
16:13:29 <gandhi_the_destroyer> i'd just hold out the one level and then you get it "for free"
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16:14:47 <Mekkis> so at 5th level I'll know Hideous Laughter twice
16:16:02 <gandhi_the_destroyer> no... at 5th level you get hideous laughter... pick another spell to learn now or exchange... it's weird how the bloodlines work that way, but most spells that you gain are a caster level below your normal CL.
16:16:21 <gandhi_the_destroyer> or spell level, rather.
16:17:22 <gandhi_the_destroyer> you could learn hideous laughter now, then you get it again at 5th level and at 6th you can forget the "spell" you learned at 4th.
16:17:58 <gandhi_the_destroyer> treat the bloodline spells as domain spells.... can't switch em out, they're just an extra spell you can cast for free, basically.
16:17:59 <Mekkis> ummm... most?
16:18:09 <gandhi_the_destroyer> okay... all of em...
16:18:11 <gandhi_the_destroyer> lol
16:18:20 <Mekkis> I think you'll find that one bloodline in Ultimate magic has one spell that is
16:18:35 <Mekkis> every other one is at the prescribed level
16:21:13 <gandhi_the_destroyer> every other one? as in at 5th you get a 2nd level and at 7th you get a 4th?
16:21:38 <Mekkis> as in at 5th you get a 2nd level, at 7th you get a third.
16:22:45 <gandhi_the_destroyer> yeah, exactly... that's why you're stuck with hideous laughter.
16:23:04 <Hydrazine> But hideous laughteris awesome.
16:23:13 <Hydrazine> Its almost as fight-breaking as color spray.
16:23:29 <Hydrazine> Or slumber he
16:23:29 <Hydrazine> x
16:23:52 <Mekkis> gandhi_the_destroyer, actually, they don't have their own special slot. They still need to be prepared normally
16:25:24 <gandhi_the_destroyer> or cast spontaneously... yeah, you just know another spell, that's all...
16:25:36 <gandhi_the_destroyer> w/o preparation...
16:26:24 <gandhi_the_destroyer> as for the spells above... not a big fan of enchantment n illusion... those are usually my prohibited school when i play wizs...
16:26:39 <gandhi_the_destroyer> but they do serve their purpose...
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16:33:33 <Mekkis> shouldn't be that bad: I'll only be playing two scenarios at 5th level
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16:48:46 <gandhi_the_destroyer> cool... FINALLY finished with that stupid pdf form.
16:49:03 <gandhi_the_destroyer> or am i the stupid one for having so much trouble with it.....
16:49:43 <gandhi_the_destroyer> !find SaraiOtherai
16:49:43 <dicebot> gandhi_the_destroyer, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=642
16:50:08 <gandhi_the_destroyer> tell me if that looks right... i gotta go do a beer run.
16:50:10 <gandhi_the_destroyer> bbiab
16:52:39 <Ulzef> focus cha foible con(go broke or go home)
16:54:20 <Ulzef> !throw 1d10+7; 1d10+7; 1d10+7; 1d10+7
16:54:20 <diebot> Ulzef, 1d10+7: [1d10=9] 16; 1d10+7: [1d10=10] 17; 1d10+7: [1d10=2] 9; 1d10+7: [1d10=10] 17
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17:04:46 <gandhi_the_destroyer> okay... so.... would someone be willing to walk me through how this works over iRC? also, could someone explain if my level 1 cleric is considered tier 1-7?? that's the only game i see available for tomorrow....
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17:07:11 <Avatar> we use IRC for text, skype for voice, combat assistant for mapping
17:07:30 <Avatar> make sure you get CA v2.2 from the downloads page if you don't already have it
17:07:45 <Avatar> your level 1 cleric can play in a tier 1-5 or tier 1-7
17:07:54 <Avatar> think of it as level 1-5 or level 1-7
17:08:10 <gandhi_the_destroyer> figured as much... just wanted clarification.
17:08:20 <Avatar> did you end up registering
17:08:34 <gandhi_the_destroyer> yes.... both on the site and on pfs.
17:08:41 <Avatar> under what name
17:08:53 <gandhi_the_destroyer> WaRDeMoN327
17:09:47 <Avatar> when a new game is scheduled, if you can play in it, you'll get an invite
17:10:02 <Avatar> tomorrow's game is already overfull, so probably not that one
17:10:16 <Avatar> show up on the day if you want to play, sometimes we have spare spots
17:10:39 <Avatar> all you really need to do is make sure you have your character sheet ready and CA downloaded and you're set to go
17:10:58 <gandhi_the_destroyer> hehehe.... and for me to find a mic....
17:11:40 <gandhi_the_destroyer> thank you kindly for your assistance.
17:16:57 <Steven> avatar im making a character that abuses a stat modifer....
17:18:03 <Steven> level 4..... stupid crazy stats
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18:17:09 <Steven> hmmmm maybe i should put my bladebound Magus on hold for a bit
18:17:21 <Steven> and make my cheese character
18:38:33 <Hydrazine> how cheese is it?
18:39:20 <Steven> lvl 4
18:39:30 <Steven> ~27 AC
18:39:45 <Steven> saves of 11/5/12
18:39:47 <Hydrazine> Eh. high AC looks col in the long run.
18:39:53 <Hydrazine> Er. looks cool at first.
18:40:11 <Hydrazine> But overall it just doesn't seem that useful. Things will just hit the rest of the party.
18:40:29 <Steven> and I have an eidolon
18:40:46 <Steven> Legal for PFS...
18:40:51 <Steven> oh... and no dump stat
18:42:06 <Hydrazine> i thought about some crazy high AC build. Then I realized: why bother?
18:42:36 <Hydrazine> Its not like I can make stuff focus on me instead of picking easier targets.
18:43:13 <Steven> antagonize?
18:43:48 <Hydrazine> Better off with scorpion style and stand still, I think.
18:44:03 <Steven> there are also feats that get it so that you provoke an attack of opportunity, and if they decide to take it, you get to hit them back
18:44:09 <Steven> with an AC in the 40s
18:44:37 <Steven> you could provoke it, not get hit, and then attack them... which would waste their Aoo
18:54:11 <Mekkis> I'm not convinced on Antagonise
18:54:34 <Avatar> weren't you the one advocating antagonise
18:54:40 <Mekkis> yes
18:54:45 <Mekkis> but that was pre-errata
18:54:53 <Avatar> it was good when it was broken aye
18:55:15 <Mekkis> more to the point, it was before GMs started disregarding it
18:56:17 <Ballig> sure would be pretty awesome to completely negate a spellcaster with a feat! :p
18:56:33 <Mekkis> like Improved Grapple?
18:56:50 <Ballig> there's a bit more to it than that
18:57:01 <Ballig> for example, to grapple you have to get into melee with them - by that point the spellcaster has already failed, most likely
18:57:33 <Ballig> and a lot of spellcasters have ways to handle grapple
19:00:03 <Mekkis> two separate GMs have ruled that it doesn't work in a hostage situation
19:00:46 <Ballig> antagonizing someone into attacking you who isn't already in combat with you?
19:00:58 <Mekkis> yeah
19:02:03 <Ballig> it's implied that it's a combat action
19:02:31 <Mekkis> we were on initiative
19:02:49 <Ballig> has there already been combat?
19:02:52 <Ballig> with that participant
19:02:53 <Brunius> initiative != combat
19:02:55 <Brunius> necessarily
19:03:22 <Ballig> on the face of it, I would agree that it's a bit much for Antagonize to be used to make someone attack you that wasn't already in combat with you
19:03:32 <Ballig> e.g. you are standing in a bar, you use Antagonize on a patron, he gets arrested for assault?
19:04:06 <Ballig> or you kill him and claim self defence
19:04:31 <Mekkis> that's like you're in a bar, you keep yelling provocation at him, he snaps and attacks you
19:04:42 <Mekkis> (probably with an unarmed strike)
19:04:51 <Ballig> not everyone will snap and attack you with verbal provocation
19:05:00 <Mekkis> then it starts a tavern brawl :S
19:05:18 <Mekkis> yes, that's what the check's for
19:05:27 <Ballig> although it's "mind-affecting" it shouldn't necessarily bypass the restrictions in most mind-affecting spells
19:05:30 <Ballig> e.g. doing something stupid
19:06:16 <Ballig> a GM could interpret "the effect ends if the creature is prevented from attacking you or attempting to do so would harm it" fairly liberally
19:06:42 <Ballig> the examples suggest immediate, physical harm - but that isn't the only interpretation
19:07:14 Tashes is now known as Hydrathief
19:07:21 <Hydrathief> Stole Tashes computer!
19:07:28 <Brunius> Ooooh
19:07:31 <Brunius> What a rebel
19:07:31 <Mekkis> cool! Send it to Canberra!
19:07:32 <Ballig> regardless of how much someone was provoking me verbally, I wouldn't attack them in a bar because of the obvious physical harm I'd receive in retaliation, not to mention the harm to my reputation or personal freedom
19:07:46 <Hydrathief> But then we couldn't play League together.
19:07:52 <Brunius> Pfft, who cares
19:07:57 <Hydrathief> I do.
19:08:01 <Hydrathief> Thats why I mentioned it.
19:08:09 <Brunius> Hmm
19:08:15 <Hydrathief> And my laptop sucks for watching TV.
19:08:21 <Mekkis> Ballig, even if someone was /supernaturally effective/ at provoking you?
19:08:50 <Ballig> the supernatural effect still allows you not to come into undue harm
19:09:01 <Mekkis> true
19:09:10 <Ballig> mind-affecting effects are not mind /control/
19:09:18 <Ballig> they're tweaks or suggestions to the psyche
19:09:21 <Ballig> well some are mind-control
19:09:22 <Ballig> this one isn't
19:10:04 <Steven> hmmmm.... do i really wanna add an eidolon into the mix of this char.... i think its likely powerful enough as it is.
19:10:11 <Ballig> do it
19:10:46 <Mekkis> don't
19:10:55 <Brunius> do it
19:11:15 <Steven> I just need a small character to partner with me...
19:11:36 <Mekkis> get a small eidolon, and choose the Firstworlder archetype
19:11:50 <Steven> I will reduce person them so they are tiny, and then they can ride on my shoulder and we can be a mobile turret.
19:12:06 <Brunius> Mort- tried that...
19:14:06 <Steven> alright got it.... screw the eidolon... takin some bard levels
19:16:40 <Ballig> take some bard levels and get an eidolon
19:17:31 <Steven> Since i cant make the eidolon tiny i dont really want to take any levels in it
19:21:39 <Avatar> speaking of mind control
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19:21:49 <Avatar> what does that mind control ioun stone prevent against, exactly
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19:22:06 <Ballig> which ioun stone is that
19:22:33 <Avatar> clear spindle
19:23:27 <Steven> the clear spindle prevents you from being controlled by any effect that Protection from evil would protect you agaisnt
19:23:38 <Avatar> which is what
19:23:54 <Avatar> !spell protection from evil
19:23:57 <diebot> Avatar, PROTECTION FROM EVIL abjuration ([good]) cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S, M/DF Duration: 1 min./level (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:no; see text
19:23:57 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/protection_from_evil.html
19:24:06 <Steven> like the fascinate by harpies, Suggestion, charm person, dominate person
19:24:30 <Avatar> mind-affecting effects, basically
19:24:35 <Ballig> enchantment [charm] and enchantment [compulsion]
19:24:40 <Brunius> where is sutekh
19:24:44 <Brunius> did we drive him away?
19:24:52 <Avatar> sutekh accepted tomorrow's game
19:24:54 <Steven> indeed.
19:25:11 <Steven> oh yeah... i better go grab up on some sleep so i'm awake for it
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19:26:49 <Ballig> we know how he needs that 13 1/2 hours of sleep
19:27:15 <Brunius> huehuehuehuehuehue
19:27:20 <Ballig> huehuehuehuehue
19:27:26 <Brunius> huehuehuehue
19:27:31 <Ballig> kekekekeke
19:27:43 <Brunius> jajaja
19:28:21 <Avatar> what is going on here
19:28:30 <Brunius> we are laughing at Ballig's funny joke
19:28:40 <Avatar> somehow I have never bought any of my characters an ioun stone
19:28:53 <Brunius> because there are generally better options?
19:29:02 <Ballig> because the classic ioun stones are just expensive slotless versions of better equipment
19:29:52 <Avatar> one of them regenerates 1 point of damage every 10 minutes
19:30:06 <Ballig> well that seems inefficient
19:30:09 <Avatar> asking your GM how long it's been to check whether 10 minutes has passed would get pretty annoying pretty quickly
19:30:10 <Ballig> how much is it
19:30:13 <Avatar> expensive
19:30:30 <Avatar> orange prism is +1 caster level
19:30:32 <Avatar> 30000gp
19:30:47 <Ballig> "Okay let's keep going!" "No, I want to stay here for a bit." "What?" "I'm 4 HP down, I just want to stay here for 40 minutes." "Just use a cure light wounds." "I don't want to waste resources. I'm not moving for another 40 minutes."
19:30:57 <Avatar> oops, and a -2 penalty to the wearer's caster ability score
19:31:02 <Avatar> haha
19:31:15 <Avatar> pull out the punishment encounters
19:31:29 <Ballig> sucks for the rest of the party
19:31:37 <Avatar> leave them there
19:31:39 <Ballig> just sunder the ioun stone in the next encounter
19:32:07 <Ballig> get an imp to attack, grab the ioun stone and then ethereal jaunt through the wall
19:32:17 <Avatar> yeah I haven't seen many tactics that say "Grimshaw looks for any ioun stones first. If any PCs have them, he attempts to sunder them."
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19:32:34 <Avatar> fucking ethereal jaunt
19:32:52 <Steven> why would anyone have an ioun stone flying around their head when they could put it in a wayfinder and get a bonus?
19:33:49 <Steven> or implanted....
19:33:55 <Mekkis> because it looks cool
19:33:57 <Steven> considering its an auto success
19:34:06 <Mekkis> I'll make a character who has 100 ioun torches!
19:34:21 <Ballig> Avatar: we should run a new campaign for Reece to find his sword
19:34:28 <Avatar> ha
19:34:31 <Avatar> a spinoff campaign
19:34:47 <Brunius> who r reece
19:34:56 <Ballig> Avatar's rogue in World's Largest Dungeon
19:35:09 <Brunius> the one with a ring of invis
19:35:11 <Avatar> my UNFORGETTABLE rogue
19:35:15 <Ballig> he was doing something in a fight with these imp creatures that involved dropping one of his two magic swords to wield something else without losing actions
19:35:24 <Ballig> and the imp on his turn grabbed the sword and ethereal jaunted through a wall
19:35:27 <Brunius> ha
19:35:42 <Avatar> didn't you play in WLD brunius
19:35:46 <Brunius> Nope
19:35:50 <Avatar> oh man you missed OUT
19:35:59 <Brunius> I was around while it was running, but Ballig was a big scary man at that point
19:36:04 <Brunius> And it already had like 9 players
19:36:21 <Avatar> I thought you were here before mekkis
19:36:26 <Brunius> No?
19:49:34 <Mekkis> I came in 2009
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19:50:16 <Brunius> Early 2010
19:53:42 <Avatar> latecomers
19:54:30 <Brunius> Are you sure you wanted to deal with 12 year old me
19:57:52 <Ballig> would that have been any different to 13 year old you
19:58:35 <Ballig> were you a wild tween? partying, drugs, destroying motel rooms? and then you mellowed in your old age?
19:58:46 <Brunius> I totally was
19:58:57 <Brunius> I think I was more of a dick, more arrogant when I was 12
19:59:25 <Brunius> Early 2010 was the start of year 8, I'd had a year at high school to have sense drummed into me
20:00:39 <Ballig> did you get bullied in high school
20:01:08 <Brunius> not really
20:01:19 <Brunius> Well, a bit, in year 7
20:01:24 <Brunius> People were more sensible there though
20:01:40 <Brunius> I was pretty naive in primary school, too
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20:05:41 <Ballig> sup
20:05:43 <BlazeShaman> evening
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20:07:53 <BlazeShaman> up to much?
20:08:45 <Ballig> tu balla e balla tu balla con noi
20:09:23 <Brunius> niert, granata pozkla
20:09:35 <BlazeShaman> Which language is this?
20:09:59 <Ballig> jumalauta nyt
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20:10:38 <Ballig> have you been here before Blaze
20:10:46 <BlazeShaman> yes a little bit
20:10:57 <Brunius> I recognise the name
20:11:24 <BlazeShaman> not for very long; this is something I've wanted to do, but am restricted by a packed schedule :S
20:11:40 <Ballig> quit your job
20:11:45 <Ballig> dump your girlfriend
20:11:46 <Ballig> kill your parents
20:11:59 <Brunius> Нет, граната прошла
20:12:03 <BlazeShaman> Great advice
20:12:04 <Avatar> roleplaying 101
20:12:18 <Ballig> once you do those things, you will be on your way to RPG zen
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20:13:20 <BlazeShaman> haha
20:13:47 <BlazeShaman> I found out that the periods of time that I have free seem to also be the times that no one else does
20:14:01 <Avatar> when do you have free
20:15:53 <BlazeShaman> friday nights, saturday nights, saturday afternoons
20:16:29 <BlazeShaman> it's not that I don;t have free time, it's just never in long enough blocs :S
20:17:01 <Ballig> I bet you it's one of the above three getting in the way
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20:18:03 <Avatar> what a coincidence, that's when we're free to play
20:19:23 <Ballig> except we usually schedule Saturday and Sunday mornings because of the Americans
20:19:35 <Ballig> having said that, schedule is malleable to demand
20:19:50 <Avatar> no need to get technical
20:20:25 <BlazeShaman> yeah saturday mornings dont work with me, haha.
20:20:29 <BlazeShaman> oh well
20:20:39 <BlazeShaman> Things'll be more free next year
20:20:59 <Avatar> we won't be waiting till next year
20:21:05 <Avatar> you'll be playing in a game whether you want to or not
20:21:26 <BlazeShaman> I'm being forced into this, am I?
20:21:28 <Brunius> yes, avatar is famous for breaking into people's houses and force feeding them PFS
20:21:33 <Avatar> oh no
20:21:35 <Avatar> you will want to
20:21:37 <BlazeShaman> Shit's serious
20:24:20 <Ballig> do you remember that scene from A Clockwork Orange where Alex is strapped to the chair and forced to watch videos?
20:24:24 <Ballig> that's Avatar, only it's PFS
20:24:31 <Avatar> what !
20:24:56 <BlazeShaman> Role playing has been proven to be ten times better under duress
20:28:15 <BlazeShaman> in PFS, how much is roleplay and how much is combat?
20:28:43 <Ballig> it's up to the players
20:28:49 <Ballig> most scenarios will require ~4 combats
20:28:59 <Ballig> a handful of scenarios are very roleplay-focused, but you can't rely on it
20:29:04 <Ballig> if you want roleplay you will have to create it as a player
20:29:06 <BlazeShaman> k
20:29:11 <BlazeShaman> sure
20:29:30 <Avatar> that's a lie
20:29:34 <Avatar> plenty are roleplay focused
20:29:47 <BlazeShaman> as I will see when you force it down my throat?
20:30:46 <Ballig> Avatar: if you had to give it a percentage?
20:30:50 <Ballig> how many are roleplay-focused?
20:30:52 <BlazeShaman> anyway, I look forward to the day when I get to play
20:31:12 <Avatar> maybe 50%
20:31:15 <Ballig> bullshit
20:31:21 <Avatar> just because you don't roleplay
20:31:30 <Ballig> I'm talking about the SCENARIO being roleplay-focused
20:31:35 <Ballig> not that people roleplay while playing the scenario
20:31:36 <Avatar> yeah so am I
20:31:38 <Ballig> e.g. that one with the party
20:31:55 <Avatar> if you yell at the GM "I just want to roll some dice god" then what do you expect
20:32:10 <Ballig> I'm talking about the scenario. ignore the GM and the players
20:32:16 <Ballig> read a scenario and tell me if it's roleplay-focused or not
20:32:19 <Avatar> who runs the scenario
20:32:20 <Ballig> if you still come to 50%, you are just outright lying
20:32:22 <Avatar> who plays the scenario
20:32:28 <Ballig> yes, that is not what I'm talking about
20:32:32 <Ballig> I just told him that if he wants it he has to create it
20:32:36 <Ballig> THAT is where the player comes in
20:32:41 <Avatar> ok whatever you say
20:32:44 <Ballig> but I said that the scenarios, as they are written, are not mostly roleplay-focused
20:33:05 <Ballig> so you can try to move the goalposts in this discussion all you want in order to win the argument, but that isn't going to work
20:33:24 <Avatar> there's no argument, I am right and you are wrong
20:33:29 <Avatar> this discussion is over
20:34:35 <BlazeShaman> Now THAT'S autocracy
20:35:01 <Ballig> Avatar is not an autocrat
20:36:04 <Avatar> I just bullshit as much as ballig is trustworthy
20:36:20 <Ballig> plus to be an autocrat you have to have absolute power
20:38:48 <BlazeShaman> I know I was just kidding
20:39:21 <BlazeShaman> up to much?
20:43:54 <Ballig> reading about a woman who is suspected of killing ~400 babies
20:44:12 <BlazeShaman> that's a lot of babies
20:44:16 <Brunius> Trying to figure out the situations in which a M32 MGL would be deployed
20:44:30 <BlazeShaman> I see
20:48:16 <BlazeShaman> well, im off for now!
20:48:18 <BlazeShaman> pleasure talking
20:48:21 <BlazeShaman> good bye!
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22:03:05 <Mekkis> Ballig, How did she manage that?
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23:17:13 <juggler> oh u like to get straight to the honey huh baby
23:17:14 <juggler> ok
23:17:19 * juggler spreads her legs
23:17:30 <Wrothmonk> Yup, troll
23:17:36 <juggler> hows that for an entrance
23:17:38 <Steven> yup troll, time to block them
23:17:46 <juggler> bahahahahahahahahahaa
23:17:55 <juggler> u gettin horny yet hun
23:18:01 <juggler> coz im really a guy
23:18:10 <juggler> pretending to be a girl
23:18:18 <juggler> and u fell for it low life sucker
23:18:24 <juggler> bahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa
23:18:39 <juggler> quick
23:18:45 <juggler> gimme ur number
23:18:52 <juggler> so i canm call u to humilate you
23:18:57 <juggler> i cant stop laughing
23:19:00 <juggler> hahahahhahhahahaahaa
23:19:05 <Wrothmonk> stupid chat client… why isn't the ignore button working!
23:19:22 <juggler> why?
23:19:32 <juggler> coz im doing your mom on y0ur keybioard
23:19:35 <juggler> hahahahahahahahahahahahah
23:19:59 <juggler> monk
23:20:02 <juggler> lets hang out
23:20:09 <juggler> i wanna be ur buddy
23:21:39 <KingniK> Hiya
23:21:46 <juggler> fuck i got a gut ache
23:21:49 <Wrothmonk> Hello
23:22:12 <juggler> come massage my hairy gut monk
23:22:54 <avatar> Jesus it's a lot of effort to kick someone from a phone
23:23:57 <KingniK> What happened?
23:50:45 <Brunius> He was making various immature comments
23:51:11 <Brunius> Including, but not limited to: Repeated asking for numbers, 'your mom' jokes
23:51:46 <KingniK> I do like yo momma jokes.
23:52:01 <KingniK> But I suppose if its becoming a problem...
23:52:15 <Brunius> Man, I was gonna do homework now...
23:52:21 <Brunius> Eh, I've got the rest of the weekend
23:52:40 <KingniK> My favorite is yo momma is so dumb she has a fake leg with a real foot.
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