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01:16 <Antichthon> Does taking a style take a feat?
01:34 <Ulzef> yeah
01:56 <Ulzef> and i next level i will have all 3 up to reposte 
03:11 <kapow_znc> happy with the backstory?
03:58 <Antichthon> Damn. these style feats are quite good.
04:11 <Ulzef> yeah
05:04 <Ulzef> avatar run for us IRL yesterday and i was running around with 33 ac when i was fighting deffensivly or mob poped
05:05 <Antichthon> They synergize well with the Elaborate defense duelist ability, though that won't really come into play in PFS. 
05:26 <Antichthon> But it's good to keep in mind for non PFS games.
07:31 <Nekhet> these character sheets are really well done
31:18 <Nekhet> is it normal that nothing happens when you click save?
31:27 <Nekhet> i really wouldn't want to lose this work :D
31:36 <Wrothmonk> the button turns red then green again
31:42 <Wrothmonk> if it stays red, you have a problem
31:48 <Wrothmonk> otherwise its saved
31:58 <Nekhet> coo
35:28 <kapow_Office> what lvl ulzef?
35:51 <kapow_Office> my fighter has AC 29 fighting def at lvl 3 XP
36:54 <Nekhet> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=636
38:05 <Antichthon> Well, that's kind of the point of your character, now isn't it?
38:16 <Antichthon> It's hardly the point of a duelst to be ultra-tanky.
38:18 <Brunius> Mekkis
38:39 <Wrothmonk> Don't half orcs have racial bonuses to a ability score? Or am I mis-remembering?
38:55 <Nekhet> +2 to any like humans
39:25 <Wrothmonk> alright, you missed that then on the sheet putting it in, I'm assuming its on WIS?
39:49 <Nekhet> yeah i guess i already counted it in
40:13 <Nekhet> i'll fix that
40:17 <Ulzef> why do the requirements for master chemist have to be so harsh
40:19 <Wrothmonk> You also missed EXP and total weight of your items
40:37 <Wrothmonk> initiative as well.
40:39 <Ulzef> mins 8
40:44 <Ulzef> mines*
41:07 <Ulzef> sorry reading stuff to make this new character
41:35 <Ulzef> kapow_office: mines 8 sorry
41:59 <Nekhet> yeah must have missed a few things :d
42:10 <Nekhet> there was a lot to fill out :D
42:11 <Wrothmonk> Gold, kinda important...
42:16 <Wrothmonk> nah its K
42:26 <Nekhet> still need tadd the gold up from my chronicles 
42:28 <Wrothmonk> I have to go through it as well every time I make a character.
44:24 <Nekhet> god damn itll be comlicated to uplaod my paladin :D
44:28 <Nekhet> 2 archetypes
54:50 <Tashes> You dinged me?
55:40 <Tashes> ahuh!
55:54 <Hydrazine> hm?
56:05 <Tashes> Hydra and i can play on a Saturday or Sunday morning, or weekdays during the day
59:33 <Hydrazine> 2 archetypes on one paladin? cool
02:36 <Ulzef> what are peoples views on the white haired witch archtype?
07:05 <kapow_mobile> Homeward!!!!
08:59 <Ulzef> looking at a barb/alc and white haired witch or a barb/ori/rage prof/mammoth lord. as my next char cant decide though
10:23 <Avatar> what book is white haired witch in
10:39 <Ulzef> dragon empire primer i think
12:16 <Avatar> my first impression was, that's dumb, prehensile hair hex does that, and this thing probably replaces a hex anyway
12:28 <Avatar> that is hardly a witch at all
12:45 <Avatar> you've got a character with a reach weapon that has witch spells
15:55 <Ulzef> thinking the mounted guy might be the option
17:04 <Nekhet> yeah 2 whole archetypes on one little paladin
25:17 <Steven> Im back from the desert lands of moscow!
26:52 <Steven> where there was no internet to be had
31:32 <Hydrazine> What for?
33:12 <Brunius> isn't moscow in russia
42:35 <Nekhet> for?
42:46 <Nekhet> Warrior of the Holy Light/Sacred Shield
44:09 <Ulzef> whats the rage power so you dont insta lose rage when you get bellow 0
44:30 <Avatar> Hydrazine knows it
51:06 <Tashes> He's cooking!
51:09 <Tashes> Sec, i'll go ask. 
52:04 <Tashes> enduring rage
54:43 <kapow_mobile> Home
55:33 <Ulzef> the only refrence i can find to that is under rage prophet where they can spend spell slots to keep raging
58:35 <Hydrazine> man i kinda wanted to make a sacred shield
58:38 <Hydrazine> that thing looks bad ass.
58:45 <Hydrazine> thought about crossing one with a tower shield fighter.
00:08 <Nekhet> let's talk about it later, bbiab
10:25 <Steven> there are quite a few moscows in the us
15:03 <Brunius> !throw 5#1d10
15:04 <diebot> Brunius, 5#1d10: [1d10=5] 5, [1d10=6] 6, [1d10=6] 6, [1d10=8] 8, [1d10=4] 4
17:19 <Ulzef> hmmm titan mauler arch type lets me use my lance and shield all the time even when not mounted
19:59 <Brunius> !feat Enduring Rage
20:00 <diebot> Brunius, MENACING BANE [] You are deadly when you team up with allies against a single foe. Prerequisite: Bane class feature. Benefit: You can use your bane class feature to imbue a melee weapon with the menacing special weapon ability (Advanced Player's Guide 288) instead of bane. You can spend a swift action to switch between the two special
20:00 <diebot> weapon abilities. Doing so otherwise works according to your bane class feature.  Special: If you have the Double Bane feat, you can imbue each weapon you wield with either bane or menacing. No single weapon can have both.
20:01 <diebot> Benefit:  Source: UC
20:26 <Brunius> Oh diebot, you so silly
20:57 <Ulzef> i went through all the rage powers and couldn't find it gonna look at feats
22:06 <Steven> ulzef there are complications with the titan mauler arch type
22:33 <Ulzef> how so?
24:42 <Steven> theres a faq somewhere on the forum, id find it but im on my way to find a pillow
25:27 <Tashes> http://imgur.com/3SQizBS
31:05 <Avatar> makes sense to me
38:49 <Ulzef> found the faq doesnt effect what i was doing
39:33 <Ulzef> wanted to be able to use my lance on and off the mount one handed with it at appropriate size cause i dont want 2 many attack penalties 
40:02 <Ulzef> and it gives you attack bonus against people bigger than you and i was thinking halfling or gnome for the character
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52:19 <Ulzef> what is lowest str people think a barb/oric should have?
54:56 <Ulzef> atm i am looking at 14,10,15,10,8,17 being his stat line
55:32 <Avatar> what's oric
55:53 <Ulzef> ops ment orac
55:58 <Ulzef> as in oracle
56:06 <Avatar> do oracles use cha as their big stat
56:15 <Avatar> barb oracle is an interesting combo
56:33 <Ulzef> yeah its there spell stat but i am losing alot of lvls of spell casting
57:00 <Ulzef> lookiong at the rage profit class then mammoth lord
57:09 <Avatar> I wouldn't even go that high with the cha
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59:19 <Ulzef> how bout 16,10,15,8,8,14
59:55 <Avatar> that doesn't look right
00:09 <Ulzef> halfling as the race
00:10 <Avatar> how come you had to drop your 10 to an 8 and 17 to a 4, just to raise a 14 to a 16
00:21 <Avatar> oh, what is it pre-race 
00:44 <Ulzef> 18,8,15,8,8,12
01:32 <Avatar> might be worth dropping the con
01:45 <Avatar> you're a barb anyway
01:56 <Ulzef> need the 15 con for the feat so rage doesnt fall of after getting knocked out
02:10 <Avatar> oh
02:19 <Avatar> you might be stuck with those stats then
02:41 <Ulzef> that or i could do the sane thing and make it human
03:00 <Ulzef> but he is ment to be mounted and being small helps for that
05:20 <Ulzef> meh i will make him human to tight on feats anyway when i think about it
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26:11 <Ulzef> gotta jet later all
17:21 <spider21b> is the thirsday game no listed?
17:25 <spider21b> not
20:40 <Avatar> pretty sure mekkis didn't tell anyone to schedule it
25:39 <Avatar> it's up now
28:42 <Avatar> citadel of flame is a fun scenario
28:49 <Avatar> well written
29:57 <Ballig> it's a scenario that wouldn't be bad if you could play a few times
30:05 <Ballig> because it has some secrets you just wouldn't be able to figure out in one play-through
30:58 <Avatar> good to play then GM
31:48 <Ballig> it would just be better if you could play it more than once, instead of playing and then GMing it to be all "ohhh, I wouldn't have guessed that on my playthrough"
32:33 <spider21b> xd
32:53 <spider21b> yea blunderbuss just hit level 6 so i am kind bummed that i cant play him on the thursday game
34:24 <Avatar> I think I am getting a bit sick of playing my gunslinger
34:31 <Avatar> he just does too much damage 
35:58 <Ballig> gunslingers seem like they're a challenge in the first few levels
36:20 <Ballig> but once you have some feats, equipment and deeds under your hat, you are good to just blow everything up
36:28 <Avatar> the only hard part is constant misfires
36:38 <Avatar> putting holy on the musket was a mistake I think
36:52 <Avatar> there was a game where we came up to an epic fight with a dragon
36:59 <Ballig> could have probably done better with icy + the one that lowers misfires
37:01 <Avatar> wooped him in one round with a crit hit by accident
37:25 <Avatar> I need to do something about James' gun because he uses it too often
37:45 <Avatar> he doesn't have the feats to use it properly
37:56 <Avatar> and I don't really want to give them to him
38:41 <spider21b> i love gunslingers
38:46 <spider21b> i made two of them
38:51 <Avatar> yeah that's cause you are level 6
38:55 <spider21b> i love my pirate gunslinger
39:04 <spider21b> na i have another one at level 2
39:07 <Avatar> makes for a great multiclass
39:11 <spider21b> it does
39:20 <Avatar> optimising the shit out of it is a problem though
39:22 <spider21b> i have a level 5 inquistor/gunslinger
39:25 <spider21b> yep
39:39 <spider21b> well 2 level of inquistor and 3 gunslinger
39:43 <Ballig> spider21b would have no problems with an OP chracter
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57:20 <spider21b> op?
57:35 <spider21b> na thats not over powered
57:51 <spider21b> i have seen really over powered like a bard/barbarian
58:49 <spider21b> dang it i can't do thursday dang classes
59:06 <spider21b> and the other 2 i cant sign up for!
59:32 <spider21b> no wait i signed up for saterday
59:34 <spider21b> nevermind
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20:12 <Avatar> useless item of the day: dark blue rhomboid ioun stone
20:16 <Avatar> Dark blue rhomboid: The wearer no longer suffer penalties 
20:16 <Avatar> on Perception checks for being distracted or asleep; during 
20:16 <Avatar> sleep the wearer may remain open-eyed and fully aware of his 
20:16 <Avatar> environment, though he is still helpless against undetected 
20:16 <Avatar> threats until he actually wakes up.
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20:40 <Ballig> could save your life
20:57 <Avatar> so if you're getting whacked while you're sleeping, you won't be able to do anything, but at least you'll know you're getting fucked over !
21:13 <Ballig> helpless against undetected threats
21:20 <Ballig> meaning you failed your perception check
21:33 <Avatar> you're always helpless against undetected threats
21:34 <Ballig> not helpless against threats that you detected with your normal perception
21:38 <Ballig> no you're not
21:41 <Avatar> example
21:43 <Ballig> helpless has a specific meaning
21:50 <Ballig> <?helpless
21:51 <diebot> A helpless character is paralyzed, held, bound, sleeping, unconscious, or otherwise completely at an opponent's mercy. A helpless target is treated as having a Dexterity of 0 (5 modifier). Melee attacks against a helpless target get a +4 bonus (equivalent to attacking a prone target). Ranged attacks get no special bonus against helpless targets.
21:51 <diebot> Rogues can sneak attack helpless targets. // As a full-round action, an enemy can use a melee weapon to deliver a coup de grace to a helpless foe. An enemy can also use a bow or crossbow, provided he is adjacent to the target. The attacker automatically hits and scores a critical hit. (A rogue also gets his sneak attack damage bonus against a
21:51 <diebot> helpless foe when delivering a coup de grace.) If the defender survives, he must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + damage dealt) or die. Delivering a coup de grace provokes attacks of opportunity. // Creatures that are immune to critical hits do not take critical damage, nor do they need to make Fortitude saves to avoid being killed by a coup de
21:51 <diebot> grace.
22:07 <Ballig> basically they're saying "you're still considered 'sleeping' if you failed your perception and didn't detect the threat"
23:29 <Avatar> when do you get to make that perception check
23:31 <Avatar> is it on your turn
23:35 <Avatar> or as an immediate action
23:48 <Ballig> the same time you would make the perception check if you were awake
24:00 <Avatar> which is when
24:08 <Ballig> as soon as there is something to perceive
24:19 <Avatar> as a free action or an immediate action?
24:24 <Ballig> things don't get a free sneak attack on you just because it wasn't your turn yet and you didn't get a chance to perceive them
24:28 <Ballig> it's not an action at all
24:29 <Ballig> it just happens
24:38 <Ballig> perception is only an action when you are specifically saying "I am looking for X"
25:31 <Ballig> e.g. your party is being ambushed. everyone makes a perception roll. people who roll high enough act in the surprise round
25:49 <Ballig> you don't start the combat, roll the initiative, then let each person roll perception on their turn to see if they are surprised
25:50 <Ballig> you know this
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55:57 <Wrothmonk>  
57:58 <Ballig> 
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15:15 <Nekhet> we also have a lot of new players so i keep running the same few scenarios to get them all through them
15:39 <Nekhet> i haven't played society in months, because i always GM
16:02 <Mekkis> you haven't drafted others to GM yet?
16:20 <Nekhet> yeah our problem i we have like 4 people who are able to gm here
16:28 <Mekkis> what language do you play in?
16:37 <Nekhet> we are planning on running the gm 101 course
16:41 <Nekhet> Slovenian
18:34 <Mekkis> well... if you want to request any scenarios (probably low-level ones) feel free and I'll try and accommodate
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24:07 <Nekhet> hi
24:28 <Ballig> sup
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25:49 <BoomerET> Hello everyone!
25:55 <Wrothmonk> Hello
25:56 <Nekhet> what do you mean?
26:30 <BoomerET> <plug>Check out Realm Works on Kickstarter - By the same people who created Hero Labs</plug>
26:37 <Mekkis> I mean, if you want me to run a scenario for you, before you end up running it for your group and eating it, I'd be happy to accommodate
27:29 <kapow_znc> Mine list is
27:32 <kapow_znc> Henry 6 alchemist
27:35 <kapow_znc> Praitor Monk 2
27:37 <kapow_znc> Peter Fight 3
27:44 <kapow_znc> Paul Gunsligher 3
27:59 <Mekkis> see what I mean: so many martial characters
28:06 <kapow_znc> my alchemist is ranged
28:10 <kapow_znc> and so's the slinger
28:13 <Nekhet> alchemist is not that martial
28:17 <kapow_znc> but i rarely play casters
28:19 <Mekkis> so I'm "that guy who plays the casters"
28:26 <Nekhet> unless you go for the dr. jekyll mr. hyde thing :D
28:35 <Mekkis> ranged is still martial
28:39 <BoomerET> Here endeth my plugs
28:44 <kapow_znc> Henry is Henry Jeckyll :P
28:53 <BoomerET> I miss playing with you guys.
29:01 <BoomerET> Need to find some time to play.
29:02 <kapow_znc> I have another one planned that is Hyde basically
29:07 <kapow_znc> but it takes alot of work XP
29:11 <Nekhet> Now that was a goofy Black Crusade session if i've ever played one
29:13 <Nekhet> i think i'll run Citadel of Flame in 2 weeks
29:16 <kapow_znc> well more so xp :P
29:17 <Nekhet> that might be fun to play
29:25 <Mekkis> have you read it?
29:53 <Nekhet> not yet
30:21 <Mekkis> hmmm... if you're free during the week this week I could arrange to run it
30:30 <Nekhet> that could be fun
30:43 <Nekhet> moon and tue i work in the morning
31:00 <Nekhet> so tomorrow and the day after
31:20 <Nekhet> wed and on, i don't know yet
31:26 <Nekhet> but i should be more free
31:47 <Mekkis> I'll see what I can do: I fly to Brisbane tomorrow
32:10 <Nekhet> i'd love to play it before i spoil it for myself :F
32:54 <Mekkis> I'll see who in this channel hasn't played it
33:06 <Mekkis> probably Wrothmonk, Tashes and Hydrazine 
33:39 <Wrothmonk> I can say I haven't played it
33:58 <Wrothmonk> But I'm not exactly free during the week.
35:02 <kapow_znc> i haven't if it's a night game mekk
36:01 <Nekhet> i'm at GMT + 1
36:10 <Mekkis> I'll be at +10
36:43 <Mekkis> and evening games seem most obvious
36:54 <Nekhet> yeah
37:02 <Mekkis> I'll put out interest for Thursday evening, if that suits you
37:20 <Nekhet> so thursday mornig
37:23 <Nekhet> for me
37:24 <Mekkis> say, 0930 UTC
37:26 <Nekhet> that should work
37:46 <Mekkis> 1930 UTC+10, 2030 UTC+11 (channel time)
38:15 <Nekhet> that seems like a good time for you guys too
39:17 <Mekkis> !define global Eastern: Do you mean Australian Eastern Standard Time (UTC+10) or American Eastern Standard Time (UTC-5). Either way, you should be using UTC offsets.
39:18 <diebot> Mekkis, Do you mean Australian Eastern Standard Time (UTC+10) or American Eastern Standard Time (UTC-5). Either way, you should be using UTC offsets. defined as ??Eastern
40:20 <Mekkis> !define global Pacific: When you say "Pacific", you really mean UTC-7, right?  Not everyone lives in USA, you know...
40:20 <diebot> Mekkis, When you say "Pacific", you really mean UTC-7, right?  Not everyone lives in USA, you know... defined as ??Pacific
40:21 <Nekhet> so i should probably take the monk or the paladin for this
41:30 <Nekhet> I had the best encounter idea today for my skull&shackles campaign tho. Not really encounter, but a whole freaking dungeon :)
42:07 <Nekhet> aaaand i should probably put my character sheets up on the site
42:28 <Mekkis> if it's not too much bother. I still need to update mine
42:44 <Nekhet> nah, its' no bother at all
42:52 <Nekhet> i always like working on stuff fr my characters
42:56 <BoomerET> I'm jealous, I can't even create a stinkin' room, let alone a whole dungeon.
42:59 <Nekhet> far too much for he good of my rl career:P
43:09 <BoomerET> Not even something as simple as an empty room, I'm pathetic.
43:09 <Mekkis> wow... we have lots of characters now
43:28 <Mekkis> I remember when there were 11 characters on that page
43:45 <Mekkis> Back when it was dnd.ballig.net
44:24 <Nekhet> that's always nice
44:57 <Mekkis> or you could make your character sheet like Mytiazair's :S
44:58 <Nekhet> Nah, you can do it :)
45:03 <Mekkis> !find Mytiazair
45:05 <Nekhet> it's pretty simple
45:10 <Nekhet> you make a room and put stuff in it :D
45:12 <Mekkis> !findchar Mytiazair
45:15 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Mytiazair, number: 148( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=148 )
45:31 <kapow_znc> mekk have you read over raine?
45:39 <Mekkis> more or less, yes
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46:54 <kapow_mobile> Morning all.
47:58 <Nekhet> hey
49:18 <kapow_mobile> Sup?
55:17 <Mekkis> ooh
55:22 <Mekkis> conspiracy!
55:23 <Mekkis> http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/polls/poll0607.html
03:43 <kapow_znc> happy with the backstory?
06:43 <Nekhet> plotting evil for my Gming and listening to songs that remind me of my characters :D
08:03 <Nekhet> these character sheets are really well done
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31:49 <Nekhet> is it normal that nothing happens when you click save?
31:58 <Nekhet> i really wouldn't want to lose this work :D
32:07 <Wrothmonk> the button turns red then green again
32:14 <Wrothmonk> if it stays red, you have a problem
32:19 <Wrothmonk> otherwise its saved
32:30 <Nekhet> coo
37:25 <Nekhet> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=636
39:11 <Wrothmonk> Don't half orcs have racial bonuses to a ability score? Or am I mis-remembering?
39:27 <Nekhet> +2 to any like humans
39:56 <Wrothmonk> alright, you missed that then on the sheet putting it in, I'm assuming its on WIS?
40:21 <Nekhet> yeah i guess i already counted it in
40:44 <Nekhet> i'll fix that
40:51 <Wrothmonk> You also missed EXP and total weight of your items
41:09 <Wrothmonk> initiative as well.
42:31 <Nekhet> yeah must have missed a few things :d
42:41 <Nekhet> there was a lot to fill out :D
42:43 <Wrothmonk> Gold, kinda important...
42:48 <Wrothmonk> nah its K
42:58 <Nekhet> still need tadd the gold up from my chronicles 
42:59 <Wrothmonk> I have to go through it as well every time I make a character.
44:56 <Nekhet> god damn itll be comlicated to uplaod my paladin :D
44:59 <Nekhet> 2 archetypes
55:22 <Tashes> You dinged me?
56:12 <Tashes> ahuh!
56:25 <Hydrazine> hm?
56:37 <Tashes> Hydra and i can play on a Saturday or Sunday morning, or weekdays during the day
00:05 <Hydrazine> 2 archetypes on one paladin? cool
17:35 <Nekhet> yeah 2 whole archetypes on one little paladin
32:04 <Hydrazine> What for?
43:06 <Nekhet> for?
43:17 <Nekhet> Warrior of the Holy Light/Sacred Shield
59:07 <Hydrazine> man i kinda wanted to make a sacred shield
59:10 <Hydrazine> that thing looks bad ass.
59:17 <Hydrazine> thought about crossing one with a tower shield fighter.
00:40 <Nekhet> let's talk about it later, bbiab
01:17 <Mekkis> why bother plotting evil?
01:48 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 10th 10am (tier 1-5,Avatar) | WotW: Sat 9th 2pm || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
01:49 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Feb  2 14:17:30 2013
02:27 <Wrothmonk> Because its fun?
03:39 Mekkis has changed the topic to: PFS: Thurs 7th 8:30pm (tier 1-5, Mekkis), Sun 10th 10am (tier 1-5, Avatar) | WotW: Sat 9th 2pm  || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
11:05 <kapow_Office> I actually enjoying coming up with the evil backstory
11:08 <kapow_Office> was a nice change
11:36 <kapow_Office> Went and read faiths of corruption and that
11:51 <kapow_Office> to interlace religions and gods and events
11:54 <kapow_Office> was fun
12:03 <Mekkis> you pirate :S
12:21 <BoomerET> Have you read Way of the Wicked?
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17:43 <Mekkis> ummm I hope so, given that I'm running it
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27:25 <kapow_Office> I read the character creation part
27:29 <kapow_Office> seeing i'm playing it
27:39 <kapow_Office> I think i did a pretty good job on the backstory
27:50 <kapow_Office> tieflings have no given age category
28:00 <kapow_Office> so I'm just saying they live longer
28:36 <kapow_Office> failing that Zon'Kuthon refuses to let me die, allowing me to remain in agony for his pleasure
31:40 <Tashes> !
31:45 <Tashes> Mekkis
31:50 <Tashes> Hydra and i will be there Thursday :D
31:57 <Mekkis> cool!
32:01 <Tashes> well, in your game. 
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59:42 Topic for #d&d set by Mekkis at Mon Feb  4 11:04:11 2013
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59:55 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, at my parent's house :S
00:36 <Ulzef> greetings all
00:45 <Mekkis> greetings
01:33 <Hydrazine> G'day mate!
01:34 <kapow_Office> cool cool
01:37 <Mekkis> Ulzef, I'm assuming you've played Citadel of Flame
01:39 <kapow_Office> you coming to fnm friday?
01:53 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, likely, but I don't have a car in Brisbane
01:56 <Ulzef> dont beleave so
02:07 <Mekkis> I'll be running it Thursday night
02:34 <Mekkis> once I get Avatar or Ballig to schedule it officially
02:58 <Ulzef> what time ? cant do it before prob 5:30, should be able to get home by then
03:05 <Mekkis> 8:30pm
03:07 <Mekkis> as per topic
03:19 <Mekkis> 8:30 melbourne time
03:26 <Ulzef> ahhh sweet that works
03:26 <Mekkis> 7:30 my time
04:34 <Ulzef> what sub tier you looking at?
05:06 <Mekkis> not sure yet
05:09 <Hydrazine> (F/Sp)ork tier!
05:20 <kapow_Office> Mekkis I'll come drive you if you want
05:21 <Mekkis> what's that?
05:57 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, that'd be nice: I only really need the lift home. Getting there isn't really that much of an issue. I've navigated Brisbane Transport before
06:12 <kapow_Office> okay where abouts do you live?
07:08 <Hydrazine> I guess it should be (F x Sp)ork. So you can distributive property it into correctness. They're still level 1s.
07:11 <Hydrazine> I think.
07:12 <Mekkis> Westside
07:31 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, [F(Sp)]ork
07:34 <Mekkis> regexes
07:42 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, about 20min from your place
08:32 <Mekkis> that reminds me, kapow_Office... if you want to do a judge test, you need to correctly answer the following question:
08:53 <Mekkis> "Why do you want to be a judge?"
09:24 <Hydrazine> Because everybody else fucks it up?
09:59 <Mekkis> could be worse
15:03 <Mekkis> so
15:08 <Mekkis> Mort's been morting
15:10 <kapow_Office> Well because I enjoy the game want to give something back for the good judges I've had, that and you left us so brisbane is down 2 levels now
15:15 <kapow_Office> gotta add more
15:19 <Mekkis> good enough
15:27 <Mekkis> I'll give you a test Friday if you want
17:37 <kapow_Office> guess i better study xP
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31:53 <Ulzef> gah trying to work out what i should make as a new level 1
33:22 <kapow_Office> make a tiger!
33:44 <Mekkis> make a paladin
33:46 <Mekkis> or a wizard
35:33 <Ulzef> does rage and mutagen stack?
35:56 <Mekkis> no idea... but it sounds cheesy :P
36:02 <Mekkis> kapow_Office should know
39:31 <kapow_Office> yes
39:33 <kapow_Office> they do
40:23 <kapow_Office> mutagen and rage if you read them are considered 2 different kind of enhancement bonus's
40:41 <kapow_Office> but it takes you an entire round to go into them together
40:46 <Ulzef> hmmm i might make that then
40:53 <kapow_Office> draw potion move, drink potion standard rage swift
41:12 <Antichthon> Make a character who behaves counterintuitively to their class.
41:33 <Ulzef> i was looking at urban ranger alc
41:42 <Antichthon> Like...a barbarian skill monkey!
41:48 <Ulzef> mean rager
42:05 <Ulzef> yeah that keeps his wits about him while raging
42:48 <kapow_Office> nah go psychonaut barbarian XP
42:58 <Mekkis> enhancement bonuses don't stack
43:00 <kapow_Office> never be affected by paralysis and die to stopping ragin XP
43:20 <kapow_Office> yeah i didn't know the right word mekkis
43:24 <kapow_Office> one is a specific bonus
43:26 <Mekkis> yeah
43:27 <kapow_Office> and the other is another
43:33 <Antichthon> I have a gunslinger who is basically just a fencer. Just with a gun as a backup weapon.
43:42 <kapow_Office> they aren't "enhancement bonuses" both of them
43:43 <Antichthon> I still haven't tried her out, though...
43:49 <Mekkis> you're making a typical "player" mistake :s
43:51 <kapow_Office> I just couldn't think of the right words for both
44:19 <Mekkis> using technical terms incorrectly. If you're asking a judge a question like that in MTG, they'll answer your question, not what you mean."
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47:18 <Mekkis> time to board a plane, complete with propellers :S
47:27 <kapow_Office> I'd make sure they knew what they where asking if they seemed unsure on how to say it
47:29 <Mekkis> see you in brisbane
47:32 <kapow_Office> hahahahaha XP
47:37 <kapow_Office> you got a lift from the airport?
47:54 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, you can try, but as a judge, you're not allowed to offer strategic advice
48:03 <Mekkis> other than "You should but basic lands in your limited deck
48:06 <Mekkis> and yes
20:43 <Avatar> useless item of the day: dark blue rhomboid ioun stone
20:48 <Avatar> Dark blue rhomboid: The wearer no longer suffer penalties 
20:48 <Avatar> on Perception checks for being distracted or asleep; during 
20:48 <Avatar> sleep the wearer may remain open-eyed and fully aware of his 
20:48 <Avatar> environment, though he is still helpless against undetected 
20:48 <Avatar> threats until he actually wakes up.
21:12 <Ballig> could save your life
21:27 <Avatar> so if you're getting whacked while you're sleeping, you won't be able to do anything, but at least you'll know you're getting fucked over !
21:44 <Ballig> helpless against undetected threats
21:52 <Ballig> meaning you failed your perception check
22:05 <Avatar> you're always helpless against undetected threats
22:05 <Ballig> not helpless against threats that you detected with your normal perception
22:10 <Ballig> no you're not
22:13 <Avatar> example
22:15 <Ballig> helpless has a specific meaning
22:22 <Ballig> <?helpless
22:22 <diebot> A helpless character is paralyzed, held, bound, sleeping, unconscious, or otherwise completely at an opponent's mercy. A helpless target is treated as having a Dexterity of 0 (5 modifier). Melee attacks against a helpless target get a +4 bonus (equivalent to attacking a prone target). Ranged attacks get no special bonus against helpless targets.
22:22 <diebot> Rogues can sneak attack helpless targets. // As a full-round action, an enemy can use a melee weapon to deliver a coup de grace to a helpless foe. An enemy can also use a bow or crossbow, provided he is adjacent to the target. The attacker automatically hits and scores a critical hit. (A rogue also gets his sneak attack damage bonus against a
22:23 <diebot> helpless foe when delivering a coup de grace.) If the defender survives, he must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + damage dealt) or die. Delivering a coup de grace provokes attacks of opportunity. // Creatures that are immune to critical hits do not take critical damage, nor do they need to make Fortitude saves to avoid being killed by a coup de
22:23 <diebot> grace.
22:39 <Ballig> basically they're saying "you're still considered 'sleeping' if you failed your perception and didn't detect the threat"
24:01 <Avatar> when do you get to make that perception check
24:03 <Avatar> is it on your turn
24:07 <Avatar> or as an immediate action
24:20 <Ballig> the same time you would make the perception check if you were awake
24:32 <Avatar> which is when
24:39 <Ballig> as soon as there is something to perceive
24:51 <Avatar> as a free action or an immediate action?
24:56 <Ballig> things don't get a free sneak attack on you just because it wasn't your turn yet and you didn't get a chance to perceive them
25:00 <Ballig> it's not an action at all
25:01 <Ballig> it just happens
25:10 <Ballig> perception is only an action when you are specifically saying "I am looking for X"
26:03 <Ballig> e.g. your party is being ambushed. everyone makes a perception roll. people who roll high enough act in the surprise round
26:20 <Ballig> you don't start the combat, roll the initiative, then let each person roll perception on their turn to see if they are surprised
26:22 <Ballig> you know this
56:29 <Wrothmonk>  
58:30 <Ballig> 
24:38 <Nekhet> hi
25:00 <Ballig> sup
26:21 <BoomerET> Hello everyone!
26:27 <Wrothmonk> Hello
27:02 <BoomerET> <plug>Check out Realm Works on Kickstarter - By the same people who created Hero Labs</plug>
29:11 <BoomerET> Here endeth my plugs
29:25 <BoomerET> I miss playing with you guys.
29:33 <BoomerET> Need to find some time to play.
29:43 <Nekhet> Now that was a goofy Black Crusade session if i've ever played one
42:02 <Nekhet> I had the best encounter idea today for my skull&shackles campaign tho. Not really encounter, but a whole freaking dungeon :)
43:28 <BoomerET> I'm jealous, I can't even create a stinkin' room, let alone a whole dungeon.
43:40 <BoomerET> Not even something as simple as an empty room, I'm pathetic.
45:29 <Nekhet> Nah, you can do it :)
45:37 <Nekhet> it's pretty simple
45:42 <Nekhet> you make a room and put stuff in it :D
47:26 <kapow_mobile> Morning all.
48:30 <Nekhet> hey
49:49 <kapow_mobile> Sup?
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55:21 <Ulzef> ops ment orac
55:24 <Ulzef> as in oracle
55:32 <Avatar> do oracles use cha as their big stat
55:41 <Avatar> barb oracle is an interesting combo
56:00 <Ulzef> yeah its there spell stat but i am losing alot of lvls of spell casting
56:26 <Ulzef> lookiong at the rage profit class then mammoth lord
56:35 <Avatar> I wouldn't even go that high with the cha
58:45 <Ulzef> how bout 16,10,15,8,8,14
59:21 <Avatar> that doesn't look right
59:36 <Ulzef> halfling as the race
59:36 <Avatar> how come you had to drop your 10 to an 8 and 17 to a 4, just to raise a 14 to a 16
59:47 <Avatar> oh, what is it pre-race 
00:10 <Ulzef> 18,8,15,8,8,12
00:58 <Avatar> might be worth dropping the con
01:11 <Avatar> you're a barb anyway
01:22 <Ulzef> need the 15 con for the feat so rage doesnt fall of after getting knocked out
01:36 <Avatar> oh
01:45 <Avatar> you might be stuck with those stats then
02:08 <Ulzef> that or i could do the sane thing and make it human
02:26 <Ulzef> but he is ment to be mounted and being small helps for that
04:46 <Ulzef> meh i will make him human to tight on feats anyway when i think about it
07:15 <Nekhet> plotting evil for my Gming and listening to songs that remind me of my characters :D
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25:39 <Ulzef> gotta jet later all
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01:50 <Mekkis> why bother plotting evil?
02:59 <Wrothmonk> Because its fun?
11:36 <kapow_Office> I actually enjoying coming up with the evil backstory
11:39 <kapow_Office> was a nice change
12:07 <kapow_Office> Went and read faiths of corruption and that
12:22 <kapow_Office> to interlace religions and gods and events
12:26 <kapow_Office> was fun
12:35 <Mekkis> you pirate :S
12:52 <BoomerET> Have you read Way of the Wicked?
16:49 <spider21b> is the thirsday game no listed?
16:53 <spider21b> not
18:15 <Mekkis> ummm I hope so, given that I'm running it
20:08 <Avatar> pretty sure mekkis didn't tell anyone to schedule it
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25:07 <Avatar> it's up now
27:57 <kapow_Office> I read the character creation part
28:01 <kapow_Office> seeing i'm playing it
28:10 <kapow_Office> I think i did a pretty good job on the backstory
28:10 <Avatar> citadel of flame is a fun scenario
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28:17 <Avatar> well written
28:22 <kapow_Office> tieflings have no given age category
28:31 <kapow_Office> so I'm just saying they live longer
29:08 <kapow_Office> failing that Zon'Kuthon refuses to let me die, allowing me to remain in agony for his pleasure
29:25 <Ballig> it's a scenario that wouldn't be bad if you could play a few times
29:33 <Ballig> because it has some secrets you just wouldn't be able to figure out in one play-through
30:26 <Avatar> good to play then GM
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31:16 <Ballig> it would just be better if you could play it more than once, instead of playing and then GMing it to be all "ohhh, I wouldn't have guessed that on my playthrough"
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32:01 <spider21b> xd
32:11 <Tashes> !
32:17 <Tashes> Mekkis
32:21 <spider21b> yea blunderbuss just hit level 6 so i am kind bummed that i cant play him on the thursday game
32:22 <Tashes> Hydra and i will be there Thursday :D
32:29 <Mekkis> cool!
32:33 <Tashes> well, in your game. 
33:52 <Avatar> I think I am getting a bit sick of playing my gunslinger
34:00 <Avatar> he just does too much damage 
35:27 <Ballig> gunslingers seem like they're a challenge in the first few levels
35:48 <Ballig> but once you have some feats, equipment and deeds under your hat, you are good to just blow everything up
35:57 <Avatar> the only hard part is constant misfires
36:07 <Avatar> putting holy on the musket was a mistake I think
36:20 <Avatar> there was a game where we came up to an epic fight with a dragon
36:27 <Ballig> could have probably done better with icy + the one that lowers misfires
36:29 <Avatar> wooped him in one round with a crit hit by accident
36:53 <Avatar> I need to do something about James' gun because he uses it too often
37:13 <Avatar> he doesn't have the feats to use it properly
37:24 <Avatar> and I don't really want to give them to him
38:10 <spider21b> i love gunslingers
38:14 <spider21b> i made two of them
38:19 <Avatar> yeah that's cause you are level 6
38:23 <spider21b> i love my pirate gunslinger
38:32 <spider21b> na i have another one at level 2
38:35 <Avatar> makes for a great multiclass
38:39 <spider21b> it does
38:48 <Avatar> optimising the shit out of it is a problem though
38:51 <spider21b> i have a level 5 inquistor/gunslinger
38:54 <spider21b> yep
39:07 <spider21b> well 2 level of inquistor and 3 gunslinger
39:11 <Ballig> spider21b would have no problems with an OP chracter
39:40 <kapow_Office> where is my invite to game mekkis :(
40:02 <Tashes> Hydra stole it. He's sneaky like that
43:19 <kapow_Office> Mekk where you staying while your here?
43:37 <kapow_Office> I wouldn't recommend visiting my place to use my internet to run the game :P
43:42 <kapow_Office> could prove a little troublesome
56:48 <spider21b> op?
57:04 <spider21b> na thats not over powered
57:19 <spider21b> i have seen really over powered like a bard/barbarian
58:17 <spider21b> dang it i can't do thursday dang classes
58:34 <spider21b> and the other 2 i cant sign up for!
59:00 <spider21b> no wait i signed up for saterday
59:02 <spider21b> nevermind
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22:10 <Avatar> likely going to need a second GM for the sunday table
23:09 <Mekkis> I can either drop out or run something. I'll be able to indicate which by Friday
26:22 <Avatar> better to have a GM who will run the same thing
26:38 <Avatar> players are expecting to play that scenario
49:40 <kapow_znc> evening all
54:34 <Mekkis> omg
57:11 <kapow_znc> ?
59:24 <kapow_mobile> Hooplah!!!
00:15 <kapow_mobile> Lunch time!!!
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05:45 <Mekkis> so, it's legal to point a laser at the ISS, but not at an airplane
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21:57 <kapow_znc> so mekkis
22:06 <kapow_znc> you gonna try make everyone fight the dragon again on wednesday XP?
28:02 <Mekkis> looks like you're all sissies
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31:52 <kapow_znc> lol
32:04 <kapow_znc> I would of gone up against it ^_^
32:11 <kapow_znc> now not so much with rahg dead
33:41 <Mekkis> who's your new character?
34:14 <kapow_Office> back to normal pow
44:07 <Ulzef> mekkis: who's new character were you asking about?
52:18 <Mekkis> kapow's
00:28 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, at my parent's house :S
01:08 <Ulzef> greetings all
01:18 <Mekkis> greetings
02:05 <Hydrazine> G'day mate!
02:07 <kapow_Office> cool cool
02:10 <Mekkis> Ulzef, I'm assuming you've played Citadel of Flame
02:11 <kapow_Office> you coming to fnm friday?
02:25 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, likely, but I don't have a car in Brisbane
02:29 <Ulzef> dont beleave so
02:36 <kapow_znc> what about mine?
02:40 <Mekkis> I'll be running it Thursday night
03:07 <Mekkis> once I get Avatar or Ballig to schedule it officially
03:07 <kapow_znc> also I am looking for magic items that increase your cmb
03:11 <kapow_znc> anyone know of any?
03:19 <Mekkis> ring of protection
03:22 <Mekkis> oh
03:24 <Mekkis> CMB
03:29 <Mekkis> !search CMB
03:30 <kapow_znc> yeah
03:31 <Ulzef> what time ? cant do it before prob 5:30, should be able to get home by then
03:33 <diebot> Mekkis, Shadow Falconer's Glove,Hammertail,Triton's Trident,Hand of Abendego,Chada's Harpoon,Rod Of Dwarven Might,Apparatus Of The Crab
03:37 <Mekkis> 8:30pm
03:40 <Mekkis> as per topic
03:52 <Mekkis> 8:30 melbourne time
03:52 <kapow_znc> besides increasing your enchantment bonus
03:59 <Ulzef> ahhh sweet that works
03:59 <Mekkis> 7:30 my time
04:10 <Mekkis> increase str
04:12 <Mekkis> increase size
04:49 <Mekkis> decrease size to tiny and pump dex!
05:07 <Ulzef> what sub tier you looking at?
05:36 <kapow_znc> well I'm dex based
05:39 <Mekkis> not sure yet
05:41 <Hydrazine> (F/Sp)ork tier!
05:43 <kapow_znc> so not str
05:45 <Mekkis> then decrease size to tiny!
05:53 <kapow_Office> Mekkis I'll come drive you if you want
05:54 <Mekkis> what's that?
06:15 <kapow_znc> yeah but you take size penalties on it still don't you for trying to try larger opponents
06:24 <Mekkis> of course!
06:30 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, that'd be nice: I only really need the lift home. Getting there isn't really that much of an issue. I've navigated Brisbane Transport before
06:45 <kapow_Office> okay where abouts do you live?
07:02 <kapow_znc> thats a lot of people signed up for sunday
07:08 <Mekkis> indeed
07:22 <Mekkis> Avatar's looking for someone to run a second table
07:40 <Hydrazine> I guess it should be (F x Sp)ork. So you can distributive property it into correctness. They're still level 1s.
07:43 <Hydrazine> I think.
07:44 <Mekkis> Westside
08:04 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, [F(Sp)]ork
08:07 <Mekkis> regexes
08:15 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, about 20min from your place
08:45 <kapow_znc> i saw
09:05 <Mekkis> that reminds me, kapow_Office... if you want to do a judge test, you need to correctly answer the following question:
09:26 <Mekkis> "Why do you want to be a judge?"
09:57 <Hydrazine> Because everybody else fucks it up?
10:32 <Mekkis> could be worse
15:35 <Mekkis> so
15:40 <Mekkis> Mort's been morting
15:41 <kapow_Office> Well because I enjoy the game want to give something back for the good judges I've had, that and you left us so brisbane is down 2 levels now
15:47 <kapow_Office> gotta add more
15:51 <Mekkis> good enough
15:59 <Mekkis> I'll give you a test Friday if you want
18:09 <kapow_Office> guess i better study xP
20:14 <kapow_znc> I'd only have a +18 on my CMB at lvl 8 :/
21:05 <Mekkis> pitiful. Are you planning on grappling the dragon?
21:15 <kapow_znc> hell no XP
21:24 <kapow_znc> and it'd be +20 sorry
22:39 <kapow_znc> +24 if they provoke it
32:25 <Ulzef> gah trying to work out what i should make as a new level 1
33:08 <Mekkis> I sort of want to retire Arjuna, but he's too good at surviving
33:54 <kapow_Office> make a tiger!
34:16 <Mekkis> make a paladin
34:18 <Mekkis> or a wizard
36:05 <Ulzef> does rage and mutagen stack?
36:28 <Mekkis> no idea... but it sounds cheesy :P
36:34 <Mekkis> kapow_Office should know
39:43 <Mekkis> I look forward to playing his replacement: a wizard with three spells in his spellbook
40:03 <kapow_Office> yes
40:05 <kapow_Office> they do
40:55 <kapow_Office> mutagen and rage if you read them are considered 2 different kind of enhancement bonus's
41:13 <kapow_Office> but it takes you an entire round to go into them together
41:18 <Ulzef> hmmm i might make that then
41:25 <kapow_Office> draw potion move, drink potion standard rage swift
41:44 <Antichthon> Make a character who behaves counterintuitively to their class.
42:05 <Ulzef> i was looking at urban ranger alc
42:13 <Antichthon> Like...a barbarian skill monkey!
42:20 <Ulzef> mean rager
42:36 <Ulzef> yeah that keeps his wits about him while raging
43:19 <kapow_Office> nah go psychonaut barbarian XP
43:30 <Mekkis> enhancement bonuses don't stack
43:32 <kapow_Office> never be affected by paralysis and die to stopping ragin XP
43:52 <kapow_Office> yeah i didn't know the right word mekkis
43:56 <kapow_Office> one is a specific bonus
43:58 <Mekkis> yeah
43:59 <kapow_Office> and the other is another
44:05 <Antichthon> I have a gunslinger who is basically just a fencer. Just with a gun as a backup weapon.
44:14 <kapow_Office> they aren't "enhancement bonuses" both of them
44:14 <Antichthon> I still haven't tried her out, though...
44:21 <Mekkis> you're making a typical "player" mistake :s
44:23 <kapow_Office> I just couldn't think of the right words for both
44:51 <Mekkis> using technical terms incorrectly. If you're asking a judge a question like that in MTG, they'll answer your question, not what you mean."
47:50 <Mekkis> time to board a plane, complete with propellers :S
47:59 <kapow_Office> I'd make sure they knew what they where asking if they seemed unsure on how to say it
48:02 <Mekkis> see you in brisbane
48:04 <kapow_Office> hahahahaha XP
48:08 <kapow_Office> you got a lift from the airport?
48:26 <Mekkis> kapow_Office, you can try, but as a judge, you're not allowed to offer strategic advice
48:35 <Mekkis> other than "You should but basic lands in your limited deck
48:38 <Mekkis> and yes
49:03 <kapow_Office> as in if they didn't know the right phrase for something thats happening i'd state it
49:08 <kapow_Office> not advise them on play
49:22 <kapow_Office> advise them on the correct term for what they where trying to describe was happening
49:58 <kapow_Office> to make sure they where certain they where asking about the question they wanted to
50:07 <kapow_Office> if they seemed to be unsure
51:01 <kapow_Office> and have a safe flight mekkis
51:41 <Antichthon> Has anyone tried a duelist class character in PFS?
51:55 <Ulzef> yep my pirate is one
52:02 <Antichthon> They work pretty well?
52:30 <Antichthon> One of my level ones is going for gunslinger/duelist. I'm thinking it'll work fine, but it's good to check.
52:34 <Ulzef> rogue4/fighter3/duelist 1 arcrobat and single handed fighter being archtypes
53:01 <Ulzef> nah my ac is huge but i did the crane style dodge
53:10 <Antichthon> Ah, the classic 4 rogue/3 fighter build, Yeah.
57:54 <Tashes> Hey Kapow, attack bonuses can also be CMB bonuses, if its legitimate that it can apply.
58:27 <Tashes> For instance, a +1 sword applies to disarm or trip, since they're attack rolls, but not to grapple. Swords don't help you grapple.
58:56 <Tashes> Hydra stole Tashes computer to throw in advice!
59:27 <Antichthon> Crane style. I didn't think of that. That does look good.
59:34 <Antichthon> Though as a gunslinger base, I'll have fewer feats to work with.
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