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00:13 <Mekkis> Democracy is Pretty Good at ensuring the Worst Candidate doesn't make it in
00:31 * Proquar blushes happily
00:32 <Wrothmonk> Really? I hadn't noticed.
00:43 <Wrothmonk> No offence Proquar
00:57 <Proquar> that's all right... i'm not 'any candidate' ;)
01:02 <Wrothmonk> But then again I really only watch presidential votes.
01:04 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, that's because you use easily hackable voting systems in the states
01:34 <Wrothmonk> Fair point. I don't know much about em though.
01:52 <Mekkis> oh
01:57 <ducknuckem> People with the best of intentions get into politics, but to be successful at it, they have to somewhat adhere to it's rules.
01:57 <Mekkis> there's a yellow button on them
02:01 <Mekkis> that you can press
02:06 <ducknuckem> not to mention, power corrupts.
02:17 <Mekkis> the allows you to continue voting as much as you want until "physically restrained"
02:18 <Wrothmonk> The button is yellow?
02:22 <Mekkis> yes
02:54 <Mekkis> http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3714
03:17 <Proquar> heh... let you know if it's possible to get elected without corrupting on 9 sep, ducknuckem
03:37 <Mekkis> Proquar, I'll give you $20 if you get in!
03:42 <Mekkis> :P
04:01 <ducknuckem> Just seems to me that in most of human history, corruption is an innate aspect of politics.
04:03 <Proquar> rofl
04:09 <Proquar> what did you want for that?
04:10 <ducknuckem> Better than a theocracy though.
04:26 <Mekkis> that being said, I'm glad we don't elect our head of state!
04:39 <Proquar> a theocracy has all the corrupting forces as a democracy, without any form of check or balance...
04:45 * Proquar shrugs helplessly
04:58 * Proquar highfives mekkis again
05:09 * Mekkis highfives Proquar again
05:14 <ducknuckem> Yeh, hence a democracy is still better than a theocracy, but still fundamentally flawed, as is almost anything involving humans.
06:01 <Mekkis> fundamentally? no
06:06 <Proquar> of course... and you can see it... it is quite frightening how and what leaders have to do to get that position, but what can you do?
06:16 <Proquar> of course, there is more hope for local elections
06:18 <Proquar> i hope
06:43 <ducknuckem> Why not Mekkis?
07:24 <Mekkis> Most of democracy's flaws don't come from the fundamentals, they come from its execution
07:45 <ducknuckem> Good point.
11:16 <ducknuckem> Course, I can't think of anything better.
12:04 <Mekkis> I do think Westminster-style constructional monarchy is better than american-style republic
13:09 <Proquar> I get in trouble with my party for thinking the same thihng
13:11 <Proquar> thing, even
13:14 <Proquar> heh
13:39 <Mekkis> the last thing I want is a head of state to try and justify why he should be reelected
15:01 * ducknuckem lights up a smoke.
15:10 <Proquar> i've decided having a monarch live somewhere else is just an outright B for Bargain
15:19 <Mekkis> that too!
15:37 <Mekkis> especially with the queen getting older, and displaying no sign of abdicating!
15:44 <Proquar> ok.. i gotta get some sleep
15:47 <Mekkis> she'll come here even less often!
15:50 <Mekkis> same here
15:56 <Mekkis> nice speaking to you
16:03 <Proquar> skype me any time, mekkis
16:16 <Mekkis> I expect you to be here for a game on September 15!
16:18 <ducknuckem> Best of luck, Proquar.
16:27 <Proquar> thanks ducknuckem!
16:28 <Mekkis> good luck Proquar
16:33 <Proquar> hehehehehehe... we'll see mekkis
16:36 <Proquar> thanks for being cool!
16:42 <Mekkis> I try :P
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30:50 <Avatar> fighter can get those
30:53 <Ballig> yeah
31:14 <Ballig> the skill points can be a significant investment for a fighter, but the feats are an even more serious investment for a rogue
31:57 <Avatar> don't know about that
32:07 <Ballig> how so
32:08 <Avatar> those are all very solid feats, and you can't do it before level 5 anyway
32:20 <Ballig> it's still a significant investment for a rogue
32:29 <Ballig> it's like every one of his feats at level 5, unless he's human
33:02 <Rymen13> hello
33:07 <Avatar> rymen
33:10 <Ballig> sup
33:13 <Avatar> I think your sheet needs fixing
33:21 <Rymen13> yah what?
33:28 <Rymen13> like what does
33:55 <Avatar> 18 is 17 points
34:00 <Avatar> 13 is 3 points
34:03 <Avatar> 12 is 2 points
34:08 <Avatar> = 22
34:19 <Ballig> what's the charname
34:25 <Rymen13> ohhh ok ill change right now
34:25 <Avatar> sara
34:28 <Ballig> !findchar Sara
34:30 <diebot> Ballig, Character: Sara, number: ( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char= )
34:45 <Rymen13> not there yet how do i uplaod it
35:22 <Ballig> how did you make it? text file?
36:13 <Rymen13> pdf
36:25 <Ballig> ahh
36:36 <Rymen13> and the 12 to 10 would make it fit right?
36:39 <Hydrazine> The word of the day is 'opprobrium'
36:52 <Avatar> yeah
37:34 <Avatar> do tieflings get infernal
37:45 <Rymen13> there and sorry im not going to be able to make it tonight im doing one this morning
38:04 <Rymen13> yes infernal or abyssal
38:23 <Avatar> which one can't you make
38:31 <Rymen13> the one your hosting
38:37 <Avatar> shades of ice
38:57 <Rymen13> the tier 1-7 i can make
39:19 <Avatar> what time is the shades of ice game for you
39:45 <Rymen13> yours? umm 11pm to 3 am or so
40:00 <Avatar> might need to start running these games earlier
40:07 <Rymen13> the one i accepted is 5:30am
40:31 <Rymen13> yah sorry 12pm - 1am is a limit for me
40:42 <Rymen13> most nights
40:44 <Avatar> could've changed it if you told me earlier
40:55 <Rymen13> awww sorry
41:20 <Rymen13> can yyou run an extra if there is enough people?
41:44 <Avatar> if we have 2 GMs we can run 2 games if there's too many people
42:08 <whitenoise> my goal is to roll a character this upcoming week, so that i can get into a game this upcoming Friday
42:16 <whitenoise> er, my Friday, your Saturday
42:33 <whitenoise> roll my character up, learn all I need to about rules/gameplay
42:37 <whitenoise> and just be awesome
42:40 <Rymen13> lol
43:03 <Rymen13> im not that great i get close to dieing alot
43:28 <Rymen13> but you need my char sheet again avatar?
43:38 <Avatar> you need to get it uploaded somewhere
43:47 <Avatar> get a dropbox account or something
44:21 <Rymen13> yah i do ill get one i sent it to you
44:34 <Rymen13> ok ill do that right now
44:46 <Mort> god
44:48 <Mort> tired as heck
44:52 <Hydrazine> whitenoise: I won't be around too much tomorrow evening, but I'm here pretty much every other day, and I'm becoming an expert on helping folk make their first characters.
44:54 * Mort- unlfuffs her fur
45:00 <Mort-> lol
45:04 <Mort-> dont expect me to be any help for now
45:07 * Mort- takes a nap on Hydrazine
45:10 * Mort- fluffs Niel
45:12 * Hydrazine explodes.
45:25 <Mort-> what?
45:28 <Mort-> hey I just took a nap on you..
45:40 <Hydrazine> You shouldn't sleep in highly volatile chemicals.
45:44 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7 reflex save again
45:45 <diebot> Mort-, reflex save again: [1d20=9] 16
45:46 <Mort-> Im dead tired..
45:51 <Mort-> ive been up since 5.30 am today
45:51 <whitenoise> Morrrrt
46:31 <Hydrazine> you know, even if you manage to get into contact with hydrazine and not end up exploded..
46:50 <Hydrazine> seizures and comas are still known effects.
46:55 <Ballig> !throw 2d6 axes to the face!
46:56 <diebot> Ballig, axes to the face!: [2d6=6,6] 12
47:04 <Ballig> that's a lot of axes
47:25 <whitenoise> Mort-: i was trying to find you earlier, I was going to watch your game. But then I learned it was recommended I not watch.
47:41 <whitenoise> so I've been pestering people about nuances, and trying to figure out what race/class I want to be.
47:50 <Hydrazine> Whats the command to accept PMs from everybody again?
48:03 <Mort-> I dont kwo..
48:05 <Ballig> /mode Hydrazine -R
48:07 * Mort- becomes a lemur rug on the floor
48:11 * Mort- is just tired
48:20 <Mort-> waiting for mek..to cast rez on me
48:20 <Hydrazine> There.
49:04 <Rymen13> well i have a dropbox now
49:06 <Hydrazine> whitenoise, feel free to pm me any questions you got on character creation, I'll definately get around to them within a day.
49:15 <Avatar> did you upload it
49:22 <Mort-> Im sorry..if I had more energy Id help..
49:22 <whitenoise> neato
49:30 * Mort- takes a nap on Rymen13 as well
49:30 <whitenoise> its 2AM here
49:32 <whitenoise> i need to go to bed.
49:34 <Rymen13> yep should upload my char on dropbox
49:37 <Hydrazine> Same.
49:38 <Mort-> its 2.49 pm here
49:38 <Mort-> :D
49:40 <Avatar> anyone can help with character creation
49:41 <Mort-> hydra is a nightbird
49:49 <Hydrazine> I'm not a bird.
49:52 <whitenoise> lol
49:54 <Mort-> okay night gas.
49:55 <Avatar> pm'ing someone is sort of the worst way to get that help since it's 1 out of 10 people who will help you
50:00 <Mort-> I keep thinking he is an owl
50:05 <Hydrazine> I prefer liquid phase.
50:39 <Rymen13> how do i attach it to my account?
50:51 <Mort-> register and ...
50:57 <Mort-> I think..avatar how do you do it?
51:13 <Rymen13> its up in my side
51:48 <Hydrazine> Huh.
51:57 <Hydrazine> I have a freezing point very close to that of water.
52:02 <Hydrazine> Didn't know that before.
53:55 <Rymen13> wow its quiet now
54:29 <Ballig> sup P.B.
54:34 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
54:36 <Mort-> her it is
54:46 <Mort-> tahts te guide I use to create my characters
54:51 <paul_banks> nothing
54:54 <Mort-> sorry. would stay to explain but I sort of need to run soon
55:14 <Mort-> tell mek I came and will be around once game starts
55:21 <Mort-> but if Im to make it I better run my errands now
55:23 <Mort-> really quickly
59:35 <Avatar> Rymen13: what's the link to your sheet
59:48 <Rymen13> ohh ok illl get it lol
00:30 <Rymen13> https://www.dropbox.com/s/16jctnm3tadmudr/Pathfinder%20society%20char.pdf
00:46 <Rymen13> you have to dowlaod it to displeay
01:38 <Rymen13> https://www.dropbox.com/s/16jctnm3tadmudr/Pathfinder%20society%20char.pdf
01:47 <Rymen13> why wont it work
02:07 <Ballig> looks empty
02:13 <Ballig> sure you uploaded the right one
02:34 <Rymen13> i know but its full on my side hold uon
02:40 <Ballig> ah no, downloading it does show the text
02:47 <Ballig> I can see the text now
04:04 <Rymen13> ahh  ok
04:15 <Rymen13> good
05:16 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=489
05:19 <Avatar> there you go
05:36 <Rymen13> thanks
06:37 <Rymen13> can you put there you have to download it to see it
06:48 <Rymen13> or do people anyway
07:35 <Avatar> I don't have to download it to see it
08:23 <Rymen13> oh really to see the numbers?
08:44 <Rymen13> ahh maybe not adobe
09:28 <Ballig> it's probably a browser t hing
09:31 <Ballig> I use firefox, Avatar uses chrome
10:05 <Wrothmonk> Hey quick question. Am I allowed to ONLY purchase items from my chronicle sheet or from stores in a game?
10:19 <Rymen13> thats it
10:28 <Rymen13> i use firefox to
10:31 <Ballig> there are items that are considered 'always available'
10:47 <Ballig> so mundane items from the core rulebook, +1 weapons, +1 armour, etc are all "always available"
10:56 <Ballig> beyond that your ability to buy something is limited to how much Fame you have
11:08 <Ballig> the more Fame you have, the more expensive an item are able to purchase
11:15 <Ballig> items on a chronicle sheet get added to your "always available" list
14:08 <Wrothmonk> Ah. I see.
14:29 <Rymen13> there we go got irc up
15:31 <Ballig> huzzah
19:24 <Wrothmonk> +1 weapons? +1 what?
20:05 <Ballig> +1 to hit and damage
20:30 <Mekkis> how did it go Mort-?
21:51 <Wrothmonk> What about masterwork stuff? Is that considered always available?
22:08 <Ballig> yeah
22:27 <Wrothmonk> Cool.
22:35 <Ballig> you can "upgrade" weapons and armour to +1 (which is known as enchanting it) in PFS, as long as it's already masterwork
23:05 <Ballig> so if you plan on getting a +1 weapon at some stage, your first step is to buy a masterwork weapon of that type
23:12 <Ballig> (which gives you +1 to attack, but not to damage)
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06:34 <Rymen13> back
06:41 <Ballig> that's what she said!
06:46 <Rymen13> lol
08:02 <Rymen13> well im waiting for the 5:30 am game i hope it still will go on since theres only 2 that have sighned up
13:49 <Ballig> I think mort wants to play it too
17:52 <Rymen13> oh really?
19:04 <Ballig> think so
20:04 <Rymen13> cool that would make it 3
20:39 <Avatar> it's good to see you can count
21:05 <Rymen13> lol and i can tell time its in an hour
21:15 <Avatar> when I saw the 22 on your sheet I wasn't so sure but now I am more confident
21:28 <Rymen13> LOL
22:56 <Rymen13> so how do we get to the irc channel they will play in? will there be an annoucementr or somthing?
24:14 <Ballig> it'll be here, most likely
24:51 <Avatar> yeah mekkis is running devil we know
24:52 <Avatar> in CA
24:53 <Avatar> anyway
25:06 <Ballig> ha
26:00 <Rymen13> ok how do i login to that will i be given a servername or do we know it already?
26:10 <Ballig> yeah you'll get an address
26:14 <Rymen13> ok
26:23 <Ballig> anyway
28:47 <Rymen13> and how do we get our chronicle sheets? sorry last question
29:05 <Ballig> the GM generally does them up as a PDF and emails them or links them to you
29:34 <Rymen13> ahh ok thanks
43:59 <Avatar> anyway he's running devil we know
44:03 <Avatar> in about an hour
44:04 <Avatar> on CA
44:11 <Ballig> anyway
44:55 <Ballig> broo
45:03 <Brunius> Barrig
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03:22 <Hydrazine> Throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back
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18:39 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 11th 7.30pm (Mekkis,tier 1-7) / Sun 12th 1pm (Avatar,tier 1-5) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
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01:30 <Brunius> "Unicon will be going ahead and MHS just organising prices"
01:49 <Avatar> no dates
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12:07 <Mort> k Im camping here
12:24 <Hydrazine> Oh no!
12:30 <Mort> Server is ipv4.nl.ti4200.info
12:43 <Mort> Port :4003
12:46 <Mort> password - cookies
12:49 Mort is now known as Mort-
12:58 <Wrothmonk> camping? huh?
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13:09 <whitenoise> hey guys!
13:11 <Ballig> she has a tent and some marshmellows
13:13 <Mort-> sushi is that you?
13:13 <Ballig> sup whitenoise
13:15 <Hydrazine> Mort. Shes a camper.
13:21 <Hydrazine> With a sniper rifle on your respawn.
13:24 <Hydrazine> Hate it when that happens.
13:28 <Ballig> fux
13:28 <Wrothmonk> Ah.
13:35 <Mort-> Im just here to make sure the portal remains open
13:36 <Avatar> always turn the corner thinking it's safe then BAM
13:37 <Avatar> mort's there
13:44 <whitenoise> i was looking for a place to play dnd over irc? you guys running a campaign in heres of Pathfinder?
13:53 <Hydrazine> Thats the general idea, yes
13:57 <Ballig> yep yep
13:57 <Avatar> we play pathfinder society
14:09 <Hydrazine> Its like real pathfinder, but worse.
14:13 <whitenoise> lol
14:14 <Ballig> ha
14:20 <Ballig> it's the organised play version of pathfinder
14:20 <whitenoise> am i interrupting the campaign currently?
14:23 <Wrothmonk> llol.
14:24 <Ballig> there are necessary limitations
14:34 <Hydrazine> If you were, we would've killed you already.
14:35 <Avatar> there's no such thing as interrupting
14:40 <Avatar> you just join and you are in
14:48 <Wrothmonk> Shouldn't be for an hour according to the she dual I'm reading.
14:52 <Ballig> I think he meant are we currently playing, Avatar
14:53 <Avatar> roll up a character
14:54 <Avatar> !!
15:04 <Mort-> btw wroth
15:05 <Avatar> yeah, a campaign
15:05 <whitenoise> neats, where do I go to roll up a char?
15:09 <Ballig> Wrothmonk: she dual? that's madness!
15:17 <Mort-> I sort of have an attendance roll for my scenario
15:24 <Mort-> all slots were pre boooked sometime during the week
15:26 <Hydrazine> If I were considered a character in the austnet D&D channel, wonder what level I would be.
15:28 <Mort-> unless someone doesnt show up
15:39 <Avatar> mort when does your game start
15:39 <Mort-> we went through this before
15:42 <Avatar> I thought it was an hour ago
15:43 <Mort-> 45 min
15:45 <Mort-> no
15:46 <Ballig> Hydrazine: NPC commoner
15:54 <Mort-> its 6.15 am here
15:58 <Mort-> Id start at 7 am my time
15:58 <Hydrazine> I think I'd atleast be an expert.
16:03 <Mort-> and Ive woken up at 5.30 am
16:08 <Ballig> maybe NPC warrior, depending on what you did in the armed forces
16:11 <Mort-> youre a lv 3 wizard, neutral alignment.
16:16 <Mort-> we ran through that before
16:24 <Mort-> and Im a fekking lv 1 ranger/sorc, elf.
16:25 <Hydrazine> Nah, definately expert.
16:36 <Ballig> do you have a degree
16:53 <whitenoise> you guys play at the same time every night?
16:58 <Hydrazine> I didn't shoot a gun in the service since basic.
17:00 <Hydrazine> So its not warrior.
17:05 <Wrothmonk> Anyway whitenoise, the site you roll up a character sheet as long as you know the rules is here: http://pfrpg.com.au
17:17 <Wrothmonk> No, however there is a she dual on the website.
17:19 <Hydrazine> We don't play every night. I think we'd go crazy if we did.
17:32 <Wrothmonk> schedual*
17:34 <Ballig> mort would love it
17:36 <Ballig> Wrothmonk: schedule
17:54 <Wrothmonk> Ty. 
17:57 <Hydrazine> Anyway, i got stuff to do. back soon.
18:05 <Ballig> word up, homie
18:09 <Mort-> all the best hydra
18:12 * Mort- salutes the hydrazine
18:27 <whitenoise> what ifns i can't make it some nights? i'm just out of the campaign that night
18:40 <whitenoise> and then magically reappear next time?
19:04 <Ballig> that's why we do the organised play version of pathfinder
19:05 <Mort-> yeah its in episodes u see
19:06 <Mort-> sort of
19:08 * Wrothmonk salutes some random guy that looks like his face is painted red "Hail hydra!"
19:16 <Ballig> each session is a 4-6 hour "scenario" that isn't related to other sessions
19:19 <Ballig> so you don't have to be in all of them
19:25 <whitenoise> neat
19:26 <Ballig> you can play once a week, or once a month, and there's no issue
19:33 <whitenoise> yeah, awesome.
19:42 <whitenoise> and your same character just grows as you play them
19:43 <whitenoise> neat
19:48 <Ballig> yeah
20:29 <Ballig> the scenarios are split into tiers (level ranges like 1-5) and those tiers are further split into subtiers like 1-2 or 4-5
20:39 <Ballig> so when you play, you just make sure you play a scenario that suits your character's level
21:24 <whitenoise> this sounds neato
22:07 <Ballig> do you  have the Pathfinder rulebook?
23:23 <whitenoise> its online
23:32 <whitenoise> i have been reading through it today
23:37 <whitenoise> i have never actually played a dnd game :P
23:57 * whitenoise is suddenly shunned? :P
23:58 <Ballig> yeah that's fine, we get new players all the time
24:05 <whitenoise> ah, very good.
24:08 <Ballig> I mean, WHAT?! that's unacceptable!
24:17 <whitenoise> i was admiring arcane tricksters.
24:17 <Wrothmonk> lol.
24:51 <Mort-> Wroth - is that you avro?
24:55 <Mort-> Im trying to find EVERYONE.
24:56 * Mort- sighs
26:05 <whitenoise> im also in the US
26:12 <whitenoise> so...its Friday afternoon for me, about to go home from work
26:47 <Ballig> a lot of games are played late Friday night in the US
26:55 <Ballig> a common start time is in 4 1/2 hours from now
27:06 <whitenoise> oh nice.
27:10 <whitenoise> that would be most acceptable.
27:19 <Ballig> as long as you are able to stay up really late, it can work for you
27:31 <Ballig> (keep in mind games can last for 6 hours after they start)
27:43 <Mort-> of course..if I were the one running I could start in half an hr..
27:46 <Mort-> which I am going to
27:54 <Ballig> yeah, mort starts earlier
28:03 <Mort-> then I shall go to swim in the afternoon
28:04 <Mort-> lol
28:05 <Mort-> or nap.
28:07 <Ballig> it can depend on who is GMing
28:17 <Wrothmonk> My irc name is the same name I use on the website.
28:23 <Mort-> oh okay
28:41 <Wrothmonk> I'm ready to fill in for a missing slot, otherwise i'm just watching.
29:15 <Mort-> Im looking for avro, sushi, dov5731, spider21b and kapow from here
29:40 <Mort-> if avro and dov5731 are the same people, please let me know since Im not familiar with the new faces around here
30:09 <whitenoise> well thats cool
30:10 <Wrothmonk> Well spider21b is already here.
30:14 <Mort-> Eric would come before you wroth, sorry about that
30:16 <whitenoise> and typically the sessions take place on consecutive weeks?
30:18 <Mort-> because of the way the signups went
30:21 <whitenoise> i understand they don't have to, but typically?
30:27 <Mort-> technically we should be playing every sat and sunday..
30:31 <Mort-> and at every opportunity..
30:34 * Mort- looks amused
30:39 <whitenoise> hehe
30:39 <Wrothmonk> K thats fine.
30:47 <whitenoise> so basically as long as i can commit to 3 friday nights..i can play.
30:51 <whitenoise> i should be able to do that.
30:52 <Mort-> actually we should be playing evey weeknight as well..
30:56 <whitenoise> lol
30:57 * Mort- looks even more amused..
31:12 <Mort-> but nevermind. who am I to talk. I dont even have (quick preparation) as a gm feat
31:22 <Mort-> wizards take 8 hrs to study from their spellbooks..
31:27 <Ballig> whitenoise: you don't have to commit to any specific number. you get an invitation, and if you can play at that time you accept it and if you can't you decline it
31:27 <Mort-> I take a bloody freakin week.
31:39 <Ballig> if you've accepted an invitation we do ask that you actually show up, or let someone know ahead of time if you can't for some reason
31:49 <whitenoise> neatsauce.
31:51 <Ballig> but you don't have to play in consecutive weeks if you don't want to
31:52 <whitenoise> well
31:53 <Wrothmonk> lil mort.
31:53 <Ballig> or can't
32:01 <whitenoise> i will have to roll up a character and play with you aussies.
32:02 <Wrothmonk> lol*
32:11 <whitenoise> and we can have fun running around dungeons.
32:15 <Avatar> do you get how it works
32:17 * Wrothmonk raises hand "Not an ausie."
32:19 * Mort- shows off her 4 paddy paws
32:26 * Mort- also shows off her really bushy, silky tail.
32:32 <Avatar> you accept an invite to a session that goes for potentially 6 hours, and you join up with a random party
32:33 <Ballig> a lot of us are Australian, but we are getting a lot more who aren't
32:36 <Avatar> depending on who else accepted
32:44 <Avatar> the next week, you don't have to play or accept another invite
32:46 <Avatar> you play when you want to
32:50 <whitenoise> ah
32:55 <Avatar> it's a different mission or "scenario" each time
32:55 <whitenoise> so i only have to commit to 1 session at a time.
32:59 <Avatar> right
32:59 <Ballig> that's right
33:05 <whitenoise> oh, well that's even easier
33:08 <Avatar> it's like pathfinder, but better
33:08 <Ballig> because the games are split into missions
33:08 <Wrothmonk> Yeah its a nice set up.
33:13 <whitenoise> well
33:30 <whitenoise> sometime this weekend (my weekend, not yours) i'll get you guys to help me set up a character.
33:34 <whitenoise> it'll be my first one evarz
33:47 <Ballig> do you have an idea for a name of your first character?
34:00 <Ballig> preferrably not Bigballz
34:14 <Avatar> Ballig's reserved that
34:19 <Ballig> yeah that's my character
34:22 <Wrothmonk> If not I kno- lol balling - w a good way to come up with names.
34:31 <Wrothmonk> ballig*
35:14 <whitenoise> is your character really named Bigballz?
35:41 <Wrothmonk> Its (insert race name here of character)ish
35:50 <Ballig> no :p
36:10 <whitenoise> alright, so i have to make a legitimately acceptable fantasy name
36:13 <whitenoise> and not throw out Smallballz
36:20 <Wrothmonk> ...
36:25 <Ballig> yeah :p
36:27 * whitenoise plans on playing a gnome
36:28 <Wrothmonk> LOL
36:34 * Wrothmonk punts whitenoise
36:37 <whitenoise> lol
36:38 <Mort-> Im wondering how many named teir summoner ash ketchum..
36:39 <Ballig> it's just if you can come up with a name now, we can show you how to create a character on the site
36:43 <Mort-> and their eidolon pikazu..
36:44 <Ballig> and where to find a character sheet
36:57 <whitenoise> i have 20 minutes, is that long enough?
37:01 <Ballig> yeah
37:07 <Wrothmonk> If you have read the rules.
37:21 <Ballig> you won't be able to actually create a character, but we can start you with a sheet
37:29 <whitenoise> cool
37:37 <whitenoise> well then, lets just say that my guys name is...
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37:52 * whitenoise finds name generator
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38:00 <Wrothmonk> lol.
38:27 <Wrothmonk> yeah thats what i did. I found a name generator for each fantasy race and put in my name. 
39:41 <whitenoise> Bexim Flitterclank
39:45 <whitenoise> ^ gnomish name
39:55 <Ballig> all right, have you made an account on pfrpg.com.au ?
40:24 <Wrothmonk> Sounds good.
40:55 <Wrothmonk> The one I'm using generated a cooler name but I don't think it would work well in an actual rp: Teknik Flamedrive
43:45 <whitenoise> Ballig: i made an account, and started a character sheet for Bexim
44:09 <Ballig> if you click on the link to take you to his page, there's a big link called "CHARACTER SHEET" there
44:11 <Ballig> click that
45:09 <spider21b> back
45:19 <spider21b> cant do the game on the 11th going down the shore
45:30 <Ballig> what about the game in 15 minutes?
45:42 <whitenoise> Ballig: I clicked that. I put in my name, race, etc. and then hit Save
45:48 <Ballig> whitenoise: cool
45:58 <Ballig> that's where you make your character
45:59 <whitenoise> also, my profession is a Web Developer, PHP/RoR and I do all of the company's System Administration.
46:03 <whitenoise> and I say, did you guys create this web app?
46:06 <Wrothmonk> You've already picked out a race/class combo?
46:06 <Ballig> I did
46:12 <whitenoise> nice job :)
46:18 <Ballig> thanks, took me two weekends or so
46:41 <whitenoise> its nifty. i had this idea, but i figured it already existed with a community somewheres
46:46 <whitenoise> so i started looking, and, voila, here i am
47:28 <whitenoise> i have to run at the moment. need to go pick my wife up from work.
47:35 <whitenoise> but, i will definitely be in contact with help on creating my character.
47:51 <whitenoise> Wrothmonk: yeah. I was reading the rulebook all day, sifting through classes and races.
47:54 <whitenoise> I want to play a Gnome rogue
47:59 <Wrothmonk> cool.
48:13 <Wrothmonk> First character in WoW for me :p
48:17 <whitenoise> hehe
49:02 <Wrothmonk> I eventually settled on a warlock. Its actually how I got my universal online name. Long story and cant really tell in 10 min.
49:11 <Mort-> GNOMES?
49:12 * Mort- winces
49:19 <whitenoise> gnomes are bad choice?
49:32 <Wrothmonk> Gnomes! /me punts every one in sight
49:48 <Wrothmonk> whoops meant the /me to be a separate message :p
50:10 <whitenoise> Ballig: as I play, lets fast forward a year or so, lets say Bexim is max level (12 for here, eh?)..I can create a new character, and then still play Bexim in higher level scenarios and just bounce around different characters for all sorts of games, yeah?
50:31 <Ballig> yeah
50:39 <Ballig> pathfinder society is also currently increasing their max level
50:57 <Wrothmonk> I thought max level was 20, or is that the core rulebook.
51:03 <Ballig> 12 was set to begin with so they could focus on the level 1-12 content first, now that they have a bunch of level 12 characters they are making content for them
51:17 <Ballig> Wrothmonk: Pathfinder Society has a max of 12 just because there's no content beyond that yet
51:24 <Wrothmonk> Ah.
51:26 <Avatar> you can pick whatever character you want to play for any game
51:31 <Avatar> you don't have to get to 12 before starting a new one
51:44 <Avatar> you generally want to have several characters over a range of levels
51:51 <Ballig> yeah, you will most likely end up with characters in each subtier if you play regularly
52:05 <whitenoise> cool
52:06 <whitenoise> well
52:11 <whitenoise> i'm out of here for now. really glad i found this place!
52:14 <whitenoise> i look forward to it
52:18 <Ballig> don't be a stranger
52:25 <Avatar> where are you going
52:32 <Wrothmonk> one question before you leave, are you american whitenoise?
52:36 <Ballig> he's at work, he's going home
52:37 <whitenoise> leaving work, pick up wife, go home
52:46 <Avatar> oh
52:53 <Avatar> I wish I could IRC from work :(
52:57 <whitenoise> heh
52:57 <Brunius> He's amurican
53:01 <Brunius> Can't you
53:06 <Avatar> no reception
53:09 <Wrothmonk> Did you miss the psychic message avatar?
53:15 <Avatar> what
53:16 <Brunius> Are you sitting at a computer all day?
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53:23 <Avatar> yeah
53:24 <Wrothmonk> Joking.
53:28 <Avatar> I don't think they will let me download irc onto it
53:30 <Brunius> Surely you could use Mekkis' little SSH tunnel trick
53:38 <Brunius> Putty can fit on a USB
53:42 <Avatar> that trick worked when I was working for a dodgier company
53:46 <Wrothmonk> You don't need to download irc.
53:49 <Wrothmonk> Use mibbit.
53:52 <Avatar> USB doesn't work
53:55 <Mort-> ipv4.nl.ti4200.info
54:00 <Mort-> port 4003, password cookies
54:01 <Brunius> Why not
54:17 <Avatar> I don't know, you plug it in and the computer doesn't read it
54:31 <Brunius> Is it a thinkcentre computer
54:35 <Avatar> some sort of virus thing
54:38 <Wrothmonk> Whats the address for?
55:07 <Brunius> Blootooth?
55:13 <Avatar> I don't think it works, I'm still using a temporary laptop
56:20 <Avatar> time to see if I can break my phone
59:32 <Ballig> Brunius: he's working for a company that does contractor work for Defence
59:39 <Brunius> Ah
59:39 <Ballig> the Defence computer network isn't going to be so easily fooled
59:42 <Brunius> Yeah
00:02 <Ballig> even if he can use tricks to do it, there will be people who will pick up on it pretty quickly
00:13 <Ballig> and it could put his security clearance at risk
00:38 <Brunius> Thank you for making that blindingly obvious Ballig.
00:45 <Ballig> you're welcome!
00:59 <Ballig> it's nice to see someone appreciate that
01:49 <Avatar> yeah I am trying to become a spy
02:10 <Mort-> wheres the rest of the fekking party
02:11 * Mort- sighs
02:23 <Mort-> anyone has sushi's contacts?
02:24 <Mort-> avro?
02:53 <Wrothmonk> wait the server you linked is a map tools server right?
03:00 <Ballig> how badly do you want to contact him
03:13 <Avatar> how many do you have mort
03:28 <Mort-> 2 atm, 3 once andrew joins
03:37 <Avatar> didn't the other alts show up
03:41 <Avatar> you had 9
04:02 <Mort-> jon is busy prepping for gen con
04:04 <Mort-> so he wont be palying
04:11 <Ballig> who is TetsujinOni
04:19 <Mort-> jonathan
04:20 <Avatar> he is a dood
04:25 <Mort-> hes busy prepping for gen con
04:31 <Mort-> and failing his foam sculpturing rolls
04:38 <Ballig> he made 7 characters on the website and none of them have character sheets
05:06 <Avatar> he's played with me ages ago
07:06 <Ballig> there's Eric
07:12 <Mort-> eric?
07:17 <Mort-> wrothmonk is eric?
07:21 <Mort-> I dont have erics contacts on skype
07:22 <Ballig> didn't you have EricMcg signed up?
07:28 <Mort-> yeah but hes not here
07:29 <Mort-> or on skype
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07:35 <Ballig> bam
07:36 <Mort-> ah hi eric
07:41 <eric> hey
07:51 <eric> Do we have a full table?
07:56 <Mort-> not atm
07:58 <Mort-> ipv4.nl.ti4200.info
08:06 <Mort-> port 4003
08:08 <Mort-> password cookies
08:52 <Ballig> the password should be cooties, am I right?
09:05 <Mort-> uif you typed it wrong you dont get in
09:06 <Mort-> fair simple
09:31 <Wrothmonk> agh stupid irc.
09:56 <Wrothmonk> Anyway I'm guessing I'm not allowed to watch then since I wasn't invited to the specific game.
10:20 <eric> CA, browser? which system for the address?
10:27 <Ballig> maptools
10:35 <Wrothmonk> maptools v87
10:48 <Avatar> you shouldn't watch a game you haven't played
10:58 <Avatar> it's got spoilers
11:04 <Mort-> you can play assuming that those who have been in dont show up
11:08 <Avatar> you'll end up playing it later
11:20 <Wrothmonk> Oh. didn't realize that.
11:31 <Avatar> yeah scenarios don't run once and then never again
11:38 <Avatar> another GM will run it
12:08 <eric> what do you need: range, melee, arcane?
12:18 <Wrothmonk> I'll join in if there are slots open then. If not I'll just do something else.
13:17 <Mort-> eric
13:24 <Mort-> we have an inqusitor, alchemist and rogue
13:25 <Mort-> atm
13:28 <Mort-> thats teh part composition
13:40 * Wrothmonk is a ranger if he can join
14:28 <Mort-> hrm
14:38 <eric> I'll bring Aresh then, melee fighter 3rd
14:56 <Mort-> okay
15:12 <Mort-> wroth
15:18 <Mort-> you can come in now
15:21 <Mort-> call it got slots :P
15:25 <Mort-> ranger?
16:08 <Wrothmonk> yay
16:18 <Wrothmonk> Yup.
16:39 <Wrothmonk> just so you know I have never used map tools before.
16:44 <Mort-> okay
16:50 <Mort-> Ill try to help
16:59 <Wrothmonk> K thanks.
17:03 <Mort-> ERIC
17:13 <eric> Not able to find that server
17:36 <Mort-> all info is in tere
21:55 <Brunius> Yo Eric, you were in my game last week right
22:18 <Brunius> There was an error with the chronicle sheets
24:11 <eric> Yes, I haven't received the chronicle, so I wouldnt know.
24:24 <Brunius> Who was your character?
28:56 <eric> butaro
29:00 <Brunius> Eric, PM
39:50 <MekkisScreen> æéæ£íøßúwþ
47:22 Mort- is now known as Mort-gaming
52:44 <Avatar> anyway i'm gaming now
55:18 <Brunius> I'm breaking my fast
55:48 <Avatar> why are you fasting
56:08 <Brunius> It's an old way of saying having breakfast
56:20 <Brunius> You're perceived to be fasting while you sleep
08:24 <Brunius> restarting to linux
08:27 <Brunius> back in asec
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47:20 * MincedSushi dances
47:25 <Ballig> :O
49:24 <MincedSushi> :D
49:59 <Mekkis> :o
50:02 <Avatar> sushi you're late for the game
53:29 <MincedSushi> Am I?
53:38 <MincedSushi> My computer says it's not for an hour
54:04 <Ballig> scheduled for 2 hours ago
54:05 <MincedSushi> Oh shit
54:12 <MincedSushi> I really am quite late :<
54:27 <MincedSushi> I'm sorry I thought it was 7 T_T
55:15 <MincedSushi> I've been cleaning the house when I could ahve been gmaing >_< I wanna go cry now.
55:27 <Ballig> :'(
55:46 <MincedSushi> QQ
56:46 <Mekkis> Ballig, start up QQ again!
03:28 <Hydrazine> Yo.
03:28 <Avatar> you should run it mekkis
03:44 <Ballig> he wants to play it
04:12 <MincedSushi> I wanted to play with you peoples but is okay. I should get back to cleaning...
04:20 <MincedSushi> The kitchen won't scrub itself
04:42 <Ballig> mort's running the game in maptools
04:44 <MincedSushi> Not unless I find a whip and make my roommates do it >:D
06:25 <Hydrazine> Scrubbing kitchens, Sushi?
06:37 <Hydrazine> I got my sexist joke cannon loaded.
06:42 <Ballig> yuck, I won't eat sushi that has been scrubbing kitchens
07:03 <MincedSushi> You're not supposed to eat me!
07:09 <Ballig> you're sushi!
07:10 <Ballig> I like sushi!
07:14 <MincedSushi> T_T
08:07 <Hydrazine> Sushi, Ballig desires to eat you.
08:24 <Ballig> it's true
08:26 <Ballig> I can't deny it
09:37 MincedSushi is now known as NotSushi
10:22 <Ballig> oh, now I dont' want to eat him
10:30 <NotSushi> :D
10:34 <Hydrazine> ya like bacon?
10:39 <Hydrazine> not sushi could include bacon.
10:48 <Hydrazine> I like bacon.
11:20 NotSushi is now known as NomlessSushi
11:30 <Ballig> that just means uneaten sushi!
11:32 <Ballig> back to delicious!
11:39 <NomlessSushi> T_T
11:59 <Ballig> in fact, I eat uneaten sushi exclusively
12:25 NomlessSushi is now known as Niel
12:29 <Niel> There
12:32 <Niel> Screw you al
12:37 <Ballig> D:
12:39 <Ballig> what's a Niel
12:40 <Niel> Can't eat me if I'm me!
12:51 <Niel> Ahahahahahahahaha!!!!
13:01 <Ballig> is it anything like a Neil
13:16 <Niel> Yes pronounced the same
13:24 <Ballig> is that really how you spell it
13:28 <Niel> Yes
13:32 <Ballig> you poor bastard
13:33 <Niel> Short for Nathaniel
13:49 <Hydrazine> Here I thought your name was just Neil.
13:59 <Niel> Way to many Nathans in the school system growing up made me Niel
14:02 <Hydrazine> Maybe Ballig likes eating people.
14:13 <Hydrazine> Atleast it didn't make you prone.
14:27 <Niel> prone?
14:41 <Hydrazine> But you shouldn't pay fealty to those other nathans either.
14:56 <Niel> Pfft they bowed before me
15:00 <Ballig> shouldn't it be pronounced "nyel"
15:14 <Niel> Hebrew root
15:20 <Niel> Yes
15:24 <Hydrazine> You're violating the Role of Names, Ballig.,
15:28 <Hydrazine> Rule of Names.
15:29 <Niel> But by english stdards today no
15:30 <Hydrazine> Sorry.
15:32 <Ballig> what's the rule of names
16:13 <Hydrazine> The Rule of Names states that a person's actual name is pronounced the way the owner of the name pronounces it, with no regard for actual pronounciation rules of the original language.
16:55 <Niel> Well the orginal laungage says my name would be pronounced NATHNYEL
17:00 <Hydrazine> A great example is Brett Favre.
17:10 <Ballig> so I could just come up with whatever pronunciation I like?
17:22 <Hydrazine> Look at it. The v clearly comes before the R. But its pronounced 'Farve'.
17:25 <Hydrazine> Yes.
17:39 <Ballig> so I could say my name is pronounced "harrold"?
17:45 <Ballig> even though my name has none of those letters in it
17:51 <Hydrazine> Precisely.
17:52 <Niel> lol
18:00 <Ballig> I think you will run into fraud laws eventually
18:06 <Hydrazine> I knew a girl once with the last name spelled 'Brzys.
18:29 <Niel> Icelandic?
18:38 <Niel> Not enough J's
18:39 <Ballig> Cindy? Allie? Beata? Jessica? Jean? Karen?
18:47 <Hydrazine> I never asked actually.
18:50 <Niel> We will now clal you Karen
18:55 <Hydrazine> But it was pronounced 'Brize'
18:55 <Ballig> that last name is more common than I expected
19:06 <Hydrazine> And everyone went with it.
19:21 <Hydrazine> I think her and Mr. Favre are what led to my understanding of the Rule of Names.
19:43 <Hydrazine> Do you insist that you have never met someone whose name pronounciation and spelling just don't match, Ballig?
19:46 <Ballig> it's a bit different with last names :p
20:09 <Hydrazine> Why?
20:21 <Ballig> because you're trying to apply English pronunciation to names that are most often not English
21:00 <Ballig> but here we already have a pronunciation - "Nathaniel" isn't pronounced "Nathan Neil"
21:04 <Ballig> so why is the Niel part pronounced like Neil?
21:16 <Hydrazine> And first names are fundamentally different how?
21:23 <Hydrazine> Because now its a nickname, Ballig.
21:24 <Niel> Actually ist is pronounced that way
21:33 <Niel> It is*
21:33 <Ballig> you pronounce Nathaniel as "Nathan Neil"?
21:37 <Niel> Yes
21:40 <Niel> Always have
21:42 <Ballig> er :p
21:52 <Ballig> were your parents high when they taught you that
21:59 <Ballig> did they laugh every time you said it
22:01 <Niel> School said it
22:20 <Niel> And Even now I don't know what you are tlaking about
22:47 <Ballig> http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=nathaniel&submit=Submit
22:51 <Niel> I'm fairly accomplished with pronounciation and consonant double vowel consonant makes it roughly the same.
23:19 <Niel> I hear natha neil still
23:29 <Ballig> nuh-than-yel
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26:13 <Niel> :I
26:22 <Niel> I'm starting to wonder if trolling
26:43 <Brunius> You wish
26:44 <Hydrazine> What do you think of the Rule of Names?
26:44 <Ballig> for context, I pronounce Neil as "kneel"
26:52 <Niel> Or it's just a subconsious hearing of the word now. Similar to those misinterpreted lyrics
26:59 <Niel> Yes
27:07 <Ballig> but there is definitely a y sound in nathaniel
27:18 <Ballig> I definitely don't pronounce the last part of that name as "kneel"
27:29 <Niel> That's how you do it I guess
27:38 <Ballig> but that's also how I hear that guy say it on howjsay
27:46 <Ballig> it's interesting that you don't
27:48 <Niel> I'm not hearing that
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28:34 <Hydrazine> I have no idea how Mort's name is pronounced.
28:40 <Niel> A lifetime of hearing otherwise might be poluting me but I'm almost certain that's how it's done
28:52 <Ballig> m-ore-t
29:22 <Hydrazine> ...
29:30 <Ballig> that time I was trolling
29:42 <Brunius> Gogo Highschool chinese lessons!
30:02 <Ballig> you learned mandarin in school?
30:07 <Brunius> Yeah
30:13 <Ballig> that's interesting
30:22 <Ballig> when I went to school it was mostly japanese or german
30:30 <Brunius> Learned Jap in primary school
30:44 <Brunius> This high school does mandarin and german
30:55 <Brunius> (There's a jap teacher there but you have to specifically ask for it)
30:56 <Ballig> mandarin isn't too difficult for high school students to learn?
31:16 <Hydrazine> Man, you guys are lucky.
31:23 <Brunius> Considering 95% of the school's local area has been speaking it from 7 or so
31:24 <Hydrazine> Over here, its spanish and french.
31:24 <Brunius> Nope
31:26 <Ballig> yeah, better than learning French
31:31 <Ballig> although Spanish is useful in the US
31:35 <Brunius> Probably a cultural thing Hydra
31:37 <Hydrazine> Especially here.
31:40 <Hydrazine> Yeah, it is.
31:41 <Brunius> You've got Canadia and mexico
31:50 <Ballig> yeah I guess French could be useful for Canada
31:55 <Hydrazine> Spanish is practically a national language here.
31:59 <Ballig> but I think most people who speak French also speak English
32:29 <Hydrazine> the demographics in my local area are more spanish than white.
32:31 <Ballig> Asian languages are useful for us because we're so close to Asia
33:06 <Ballig> I'm not sure why German is so popular in schools though
33:11 <Ballig> probably because it's easy to learn for an English speaker
33:32 <Ballig> so many English words have Germanic roots
33:59 <Hydrazine> Alot have French roots aswell.
34:15 <Ballig> only if you're pretentious! badum ching!
34:20 <Hydrazine> But the French language bothers me. Its the difference between how many letters you pronounce and how many letters you spell with.
34:29 <Ballig> (the appropriate response to that joke is "Touche")
34:41 <Hydrazine> I took French in high school because I really didn't want to speak spanish.
34:51 <Hydrazine> People confuse me for a spanish speaker based on looks.
34:57 <Ballig> I bet you regret that!
35:37 <Hydrazine> Eh. Looking back, it could be useful for employment, if I was rerally fluent, but I doubt I would be.
36:04 <Ballig> que
36:20 <Ballig> que bueno, iho
36:46 <Ballig> apparently it's spelled hijo
36:51 <Ballig> that's what I get for learning it orally
38:07 <Hydrazine> I think I really lost it with French when I learned to count past 80.
39:28 <Brunius> I can count to 99 in Japanese
39:35 <Hydrazine> Thats nice.
39:35 <Brunius> I remember the words for green
39:36 <Brunius> Cow
39:39 <Brunius> I think that's it
39:43 <Ballig> yeah, I can only count to 99 in Japanese too
39:46 <Hydrazine> What about octopus?
39:48 <Brunius> Shows what 5 years of jap learning does for you
39:56 <Ballig> octopus is "octoparuuuuuu!"
40:09 <Hydrazine> Is not.
40:12 <Ballig> ha
40:27 <Ballig> but yeah, I did Japanese for 4 or 5  years and can't remember shit about it
41:37 <Brunius> I remember the teacher was hopeless at controlling a class
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50:41 <Ballig> am I the only one who tells the difference between the male and female symbols by the fact the male one looks like a hardon
51:08 <Brunius> ...
51:29 <Hydrazine> Its just you, Ballig.
51:34 <Ballig> really
52:05 <Hydrazine> yep.
59:25 <Brunius> Minecraft world data is saved in application data, right?
00:21 <Hydrazine> Um.
00:23 <Hydrazine> No idea.
02:31 <Ballig> it's saved as a bunch of Excel spreadsheets in My Documents
02:48 <Brunius> Yeah it's not
05:33 <Ballig> this "Bundaberg Five" white rum is really good
06:13 <Brunius> Instead of backing up my crap, I'm just copying the important bits to my ubuntu desktop
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14:48 <Ballig> we lost our Swede!
21:22 <MekkisScreen> .oh no
44:28 <Avatar> has anyone tried using duolingo
01:51 <Avatar> tough crowd
02:20 <Ballig> http://www.reddit.com/search?q=duolingo
02:23 <Ballig> that might give you something useful
21:11 <Avatar> I tried using it while I wasn't working
21:19 <Ballig> how many languages can you speak now
21:19 <Avatar> it was pretty good for a few days but it became a bit of a chore
21:25 <Avatar> 1, english
21:27 <Ballig> oh
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33:28 <Brunius> Did you need to use it to learn english
34:28 <Avatar> it doesn't teach english
34:38 <Avatar> you need to know english first to use it
36:20 <Brunius> So if you were using it why can you only speak one language
37:10 <Avatar> because  <Avatar> it was pretty good for a few days but it became a bit of a chore
37:35 <Brunius> I can read further up, y'know
37:42 <Avatar> then why didn't you
37:50 <Brunius> I did
37:59 <Brunius> A few days is quite vague
38:00 <Avatar> then why are you asking
43:29 <Brunius> Mekkis, are you around?
45:08 <whitenoise> is Mort's game already over?
45:27 <Brunius> She's running it elsewhere
45:39 <whitenoise> ah
45:49 <whitenoise> am I allowed to go spectate?
50:50 <Brunius> Ask her
51:10 <Brunius> Hmm, not around
54:49 <Ballig> we don't suggest watching it because it's a scenario you might play later
54:59 <Ballig> it's better not to have spoilers
55:16 <whitenoise> ah
55:23 <whitenoise> i figured there were switch-ups each time
55:47 <Ballig> some might, but most don't
55:50 <Avatar> what's a switch up
55:55 <Ballig> changing things around
56:06 <Avatar> there's not supposed to be
56:14 <Ballig> you're not expected to play the same scenario more than once
56:19 <Ballig> a very small number you can
56:40 <whitenoise> aha
56:42 <Ballig> but there are a lot of scenarios, it will take you a long time to run out of them
57:25 <Avatar> er, I scheduled another game for tonight
57:27 <Avatar> was it cancelled
57:32 <whitenoise> and people right new ones all the time, eh?
57:40 <Ballig> yeah
57:53 <Avatar> 2 new ones each fortnight I think it is
57:54 <whitenoise> one day when I am skillful in the ways of DnD, I shall write a campaign.
58:01 <Ballig> it wasn't cancelled
58:07 <Ballig> you put the end date as 1.30am Saturday
58:14 <Ballig> so the end date has already happened
58:23 <Avatar> because there's no way to set a different end date
05:50 <whitenoise> is it feasible to play a prestige class in PFS?
05:56 <Ballig> yeah
06:12 <Ballig> just make sure it's legal
06:13 <whitenoise> i was thinking you would have to switch over early on, eh?
06:23 <Ballig> most prestige classes are available from level 5 or 6 I think
06:24 <whitenoise> because you max at 12?
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07:00 <ducknuckem> G'day!
07:08 <Hydrazine> Duck!
07:34 <Hydrazine> Its possible. Its actually easier than in a homebrew starting a level 1, I think.
08:06 <Hydrazine> Isn't there some clause Ballig, that waives the roleplay prereqs for prestige classes for society play?
08:13 <ducknuckem> How are ya, Hydrazine?
08:34 <Ballig> sounds familiar
08:38 <Avatar> what roleplay prereqs
08:40 <Hydrazine> Meaning you only need to meet the mechanical prereqs. Like skill ranks and feats, but not 'lived amongst the aborigines for 20 years'
09:00 <whitenoise> ah, like the 'Kill someone purely for the purpose of becoming an assassin.'
09:02 <Avatar> what class has that kind of thing
09:07 <whitenoise> Assassin
09:08 <Hydrazine> I'm okay man. You?
09:08 <Avatar> oh
09:09 <Ballig> Roleplaying  requirements  for  prestige  classes  (such 
09:10 <Ballig> as particular ceremonies or killing a devil) are waived 
09:10 <Ballig> in  Pathfinder  Society. 
09:14 <Ballig> that's from the PFS rules
09:15 <Hydrazine> Assassin's different.
09:17 <ducknuckem> Yeh, not too shabby thanks.
09:26 <Hydrazine> Because you can't be evil in Society anyway.
09:26 <whitenoise> Ballig: where can i find the PFS rules?
09:34 <Hydrazine> So you can't really be an assassin.
09:34 * whitenoise is currently looking over regular PF rules
09:40 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
09:43 <Ballig> it's free
09:48 <Hydrazine> I'm going to a wedding tomorrow, so I got me a haircut and fixed my face.
09:57 <Ballig> the PFS rules just provide guidelines for how you work within the regular Pathfinder rules
10:03 <Ballig> e.g. it disallows item creation feats
10:16 <Ballig> and gives wizards spell focus instead of scribe scroll at first level
10:29 <Hydrazine> Most of it's pretty much the same.
10:39 <Hydrazine> I'd say read the pathfinder rules, THEN the society stuff.
10:41 <Ballig> yeah it doesn't make a lot of changes like that
10:58 <Ballig> but you will need to be familiar with at least the character creation guidelines in the PFS rules before you start working on a character
11:04 <Hydrazine> Unless you're like me and already pretty sharp on the base rules.
11:09 <Avatar> what have you played before
11:16 <Avatar> I thought you said you were familiar with pathfinder
11:24 <Ballig> I think he said he wasn't, or was that someone else
11:40 <Ballig> I think Thani was the one already familiar with Pathfinder
14:13 <whitenoise> yeah i'm not familiar with anything
14:18 <whitenoise> i've never played any dnd whatsoever
14:34 <Ballig> one option is to use a pregenerated character
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22:50 <Ballig> Avatar: okay, the website will automatically add a day to the time if the end time is earlier than the start time
24:40 <Ballig> I added a day to today's game manually
27:33 <whitenoise> ah, so we can choose stuff from the alternate classes? like ninja, samurai, gunslinger, etc
27:39 <Ballig> yeah
27:44 <Ballig> almost all resources are legal for PFS
27:59 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources
28:01 <Ballig> full list there
28:39 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources#RPG
28:42 <MekkisScreen> stay away from master summoner and synthesist: they'll be removed next week
28:46 <Ballig> that will take you to the most relevant esction
29:51 <Hydrazine> A complete D&D newb? I am very curious to see this in action.
30:08 <Hydrazine> Sometimes you get some great stuff out of the new guys who really hit it with dedication.
30:42 <MekkisScreen> sometimes the results are... interesting
31:23 <Ballig> it mostly depends on their background/influences (e.g. if they have a heavy background and interest in computer RPGs), and how much effort they're willing to put into learning the rules
31:43 <whitenoise> The playtest versions of the gunslinger, ninja, and samurai are no longer legal for play as of 8/4/11. 
31:45 <whitenoise> what does this mean
31:51 <Ballig> you don't have to worry about that
32:02 <whitenoise> Also, I have played MUDs for about the last 13 years.
32:02 <Hydrazine> It means the beta versions are no longer valid.
32:04 <Ballig> playtest versions are what you play when a resource hasn't been released yet
32:09 <Hydrazine> You obviously weren't here for the beta testing.
33:39 <Hydrazine> MUDs? I used to, years ago.
34:43 <Ballig> I played a MUD in the late 90s
34:51 <Ballig> and early 2000s
35:26 <Ballig> I think Brunius was 2 years old when I first started playing a MUD
36:56 <Hydrazine> probably.
37:18 <Ballig> it's actually why I type faster than average
37:33 <Hydrazine> Its how I learned to type with decent English
37:41 <Ballig> yeah, that too
37:58 <Ballig> for some reason I insisted on typing commands out fully for most things
38:06 <Ballig> so other people would type "fl w", and I would type "flee west"
39:21 <Avatar> you're so stubborn
39:27 <Hydrazine> heh.
39:35 <Hydrazine> I macro'd the hell out of my setup.
39:41 <Ballig> Avatar: shouldn't you be saying "that's cool, thanks for making the schedule work better"?
39:48 <whitenoise> is there any race/class combo you guys consider "good starter" combos?
39:57 <Ballig> nah not necessarily
39:59 <Hydrazine> Wanna learn alot about the game system?
40:01 <Hydrazine> I say play a ranger.
40:04 <Ballig> ha
40:08 <Ballig> you are a terrible person, Hydrazine
40:09 <Hydrazine> Really.
40:34 <Hydrazine> You get full bab, spellcasting, pet control..
40:36 <Ballig> if you wanted to delve into rules I'd suggest druid
41:09 <Hydrazine> Fighters are pretty easy to not do terrible with.
41:20 <Hydrazine> The one I'd say to stay away from? Monk.
41:20 <Ballig> fighter is what I'd suggest if you didn't really want to delve into rules much
41:42 <Ballig> monk is a good thing to stay away from until you understand rules better
41:47 <Ballig> very easy to make an ineffective monk
42:12 <Hydrazine> Monk takes some serious rules-fu to do well with.
42:35 <whitenoise> i've been pondering an archer character, as well
42:37 <whitenoise> and wizard.
42:58 <Ballig> archer isn't bad (your base class would likely be fighter)
43:05 <Ballig> but you'll probably need advice on feat choice
43:35 <Ballig> rangers can be good archers too, but just be aware there is a fair bit of rules involved with a ranger
43:42 <Hydrazine> Well, I think with a bit of looking, its pretty easy to make a fairly specialized fighter. Theres alot of obvious strong feat picks.
43:45 <Avatar> you can rebuild your character through your first level 1 games
43:54 <Avatar> pick what looks good yourself first
44:08 <Ballig> wizard is a fine idea. wizard was my very first D&D character
44:10 <Ballig> like 10 years ago
44:28 <whitenoise> i don't mind rule-researching
44:33 <whitenoise> i tend to obsess over learning things anyhow
44:44 <Hydrazine> I'd still say don't try a monk until you've got a little experience under.
44:46 <Avatar> take a look over the wizard spell list and commence drooling
44:53 <Hydrazine> But you don't have to listen to me.
44:54 <Ballig> ha
45:20 <whitenoise> as a wizard, don't you have to specialize in an area of magic?
45:24 <Hydrazine> No.
45:26 <Ballig> you don't have to
45:29 <Hydrazine> You can be a universalist.
45:31 <Ballig> but it's usually decent to consider
45:41 <Ballig> specialising doesn't make you suck in all the other schools, though
45:43 <Ballig> just a couple of other schools
45:49 <eric> The Elementalists, give yo ugood options as well
47:29 <whitenoise> so as a Wizard, you can start out able to do all 0-Level and 1-Level spells?
47:42 <whitenoise> which would be like 20 spells
47:57 <eric> All or most 0, only 3 + Int mod 1st
48:15 <whitenoise> ah, so that's how many can go into your spellbook
48:26 <whitenoise> and then you meditate on the spells in your spell book to "prepare" them for an hour, right?
48:29 <whitenoise> then you have them for the day
48:40 <Ballig> yeah
48:54 <whitenoise> Int mod, that's your Int roll?
48:59 <Ballig> level 0 spells you can use at-will, so if you prepare "Detect Magic" you can cast it as many times as you want during the day
49:04 <whitenoise> which is 4d6, minus the lowest?
49:07 <Ballig> other levels you get "slots" based on your level and intelligence
49:10 <eric> yes, you can usually cast 3 0 level as many times per day as you want, but only 2 1st level for the day
49:22 <Ballig> you don't roll for stats in PFS, the rules for PFS tell you how to get your stats
49:31 <whitenoise> aha
49:32 <eric> PFS uses a 20 point buy system
49:39 <Ballig> but once you have your stat, you work out what the "mod" for that stat is
49:44 <Ballig> there's a table in the early chapters of the book
49:52 <whitenoise> i saw said table
49:59 <whitenoise> i will have to go back and look more carefully
49:59 <Ballig> but 10-11 is +0, 12-13 +1, 14-15 +2, 16-17 +3, 18 +4
50:00 <Ballig> etc
50:09 <whitenoise> ah
50:13 <Ballig> so if you have 16 intelligence, "3 + int mod" means 6
50:15 <Wrothmonk> and on the character sheet page on the website it will calculate for you.
50:31 <whitenoise> so i would have 6 slots
50:33 <eric> some versions do, others don't
50:40 <whitenoise> and if i want to fill all 6 with the same spell, then i would be able to cast that one spell 6 times
50:43 <Ballig> you would have 6 level 1 spells in your spellbook
50:45 <Ballig> slots is a bit difference
50:49 <whitenoise> oh
50:58 <eric> See Spells per Day
51:04 <Ballig> so wizards have spells in their spellbook, but how many of them they can prepare per day depends on their level
51:15 <whitenoise> i see, i see.
51:54 <Ballig> so you check the wizard table for Spells per Day and see that they get 1 first level spell at level 1
52:15 <Ballig> check that ability modifier table I mentioned before, and you'll see that a 16 intelligence gives you 1 extra first level spell per day
52:19 <whitenoise> so the whole rest of the time i'm meleeing
52:23 <Ballig> so a level 1 wizard with 16 intelligence could cast 2 first level spells each day
52:32 <Ballig> if you specialize in a school of magic, you can prepare an extra spell of that school
52:40 <Ballig> so you could have 2 first level spells, and an extra spell of a specific school
53:01 <Ballig> you could melee if you wanted to. most classic wizards will prepare a damage-dealing level 0 spell like Acid Splash
53:03 <eric> Use a crossbow, you'll live longer
53:14 <Ballig> because they can cast that as many times as they want (although it does low damage)
53:15 <eric> Wizards don't melee... ever!
53:23 <Ballig> I have a wizard that melees
53:30 <whitenoise> ah, did not realize there were damage-dealing cantrips
54:10 <Ballig> but eric's suggestion is good too - crossbows (or longbows if you're an elf, who get that proficiency for free) are good for wizards
56:06 <whitenoise> neat, and shooting at stuff would cause more damage than acid splash or ray of cold
56:12 <whitenoise> question though
56:13 <whitenoise> like
56:20 <whitenoise> mage hand, telekinesis on a 5-pound object
56:33 <whitenoise> can you use stuff like that offensively? can i use telekinesis to pelt something with rocks over and over?
56:48 <Ballig> mage hand won't let you throw it fast enough
56:51 <Ballig> there are other spells that let you do that though
57:21 <whitenoise> or animate rope--does anything prevent me from choking people. i think my real question is--where is the line of freedom of what you can do with a certain spell
57:38 <Ballig> usually the line depends on the GM
57:56 <Ballig> a fair GM will probably give you more leeway the higher level the spell is
58:05 <Ballig> (no one wants someone doing crazy shit with a spell that uses barely any resources)
58:06 <whitenoise> so with animate rope you could do something like, tie it around the opponent's feet
58:11 <whitenoise> and maybe next round it trips or whatever
58:17 <whitenoise> right
58:18 <whitenoise> makes sense.
58:44 <whitenoise> very interesting.
59:39 <ducknuckem> Is there still a use rope spell?
59:42 <Ballig> a GM might let you make a "combat maneuver check" to see if you are able to do one of those things with animate rope, but maybe not
59:51 <Ballig> ducknuckem: spell or skill?
59:56 <Ballig> there's no "use rope" skill anymore
00:34 <whitenoise> what is HD
00:37 <ducknuckem> Skill sorry.
00:48 <Ballig> hit dice
00:55 <Ballig> for a player character, generally equal to their level
01:03 <Ballig> creatures in the bestiary etc have "hit dice" instead of levels
01:09 <ducknuckem> We used to play that you couldn't use animate rope to tie people up.
01:18 <ducknuckem> Unless they were immobile.
05:05 <whitenoise> fighters apparently just get abunch of feats?
05:15 <Ballig> there is no "just" about that!
05:18 <Ballig> feats are awesome
05:26 <Ballig> feats are a fighter's lifeblood
05:36 <Ballig> and allow fighters to be one of the most diverse classes available
07:33 <ducknuckem> Yup.
07:43 <whitenoise> hmm
07:45 <whitenoise> interesting.
07:56 <Ballig> feats are to fighters as spells are to wizards
08:15 <Ballig> just as your selection of spells differentiates you from other wizards, a fighter's feats differentiates him from other fighters
08:43 <Ballig> they can make him an archer, or a fighter that uses big two-handed weapons, or a fighter that is extremely mobile and hard to get away from
08:48 <Hydrazine> Also, fighters don't get JUST feats anymore.
08:52 <Ballig> a fighter that grapples, a fighter that trips
09:04 <Hydrazine> A pure fighter can move faster in armor than anyone else, and get more defense out of it.
09:19 <Ballig> how do they move faster in armour
09:24 <Hydrazine> They also get better with the weapons they want to use the most, above and beyond other classes.
09:26 <Hydrazine> Armor training.
09:39 <Ballig> does that make them move faster? I thought it reduced their ACP and increased the max dex
09:46 <Hydrazine> Takes a few levels to kick in, sure, but its definately one of the perks.
09:54 <Hydrazine> ...Dude, haven't you been doing this longer than me?
10:00 <Hydrazine> level 7 fighter moves full speed in plate
10:14 <ducknuckem> I still prefer monks.
10:16 <Ballig> doesn't mean I remember every little thing about every class, man
11:15 <Ballig> I've actually never noticed that part of Armor Training
11:26 <Ballig> because it's so far split from the rest of the description I've never even read it
11:33 <Hydrazine> ...
11:34 <Hydrazine> lol.
11:46 <Ballig> there's a huge picture and the class table in between!
11:49 <Ballig> :p
12:04 <Hydrazine> I don't think monks are in a good place overall.
12:09 <Ballig> I can't be expected to pay attention for long enough to read that
13:07 <whitenoise> what about a PFS character that was like
13:15 <whitenoise> 7 fighter/5 wizard
13:15 <whitenoise> that would seem pretty cool
13:19 <whitenoise> and better than an Eldritch Knight
13:27 <ducknuckem> What's wrong with monks?
13:27 <Ballig> I have a fighter/wizard, it has some decent options
13:40 <whitenoise> what don't you have, Ballig ? :P
13:49 <Ballig> I dont' have a monk
13:50 <Ballig> ha ha!
14:09 <Hydrazine> Monks have a very hard time balancing between offense and defense.
14:33 <Ballig> they also have a very hard time balancing between being completely shit and cheesy gimp overpowered
14:34 <Ballig> :p
14:57 <ducknuckem> True, though I found in the company of a party of specialists, the monk did well.
15:06 <Hydrazine> I think, overall, the monk package lacks direction, and it leads to some confusion about what the monk is supposed to be able to do.
15:10 <ducknuckem> The saves were really handy too.
15:34 <ducknuckem> My monk was the spotter.
15:49 <whitenoise> how does a fighter/wizard work, if it uses two-handed weapons or something?
15:55 <whitenoise> that would mean he couldn't cast any spells that require hand motions, yeah?
15:58 <ducknuckem> Could also get anywhere really fast to back up those who needed it.
16:01 <whitenoise> or do you just sheathe your sword for that
16:15 <Hydrazine> I'd recommend using a one handed weapon.
16:59 <Ballig> depending on the 2-handed weapon you can hold it with one hand while you cast
17:01 <Ballig> e.g. a polearm
17:12 <Ballig> but if you go bonded object form of wizard, don't make your weapon bonded
17:31 <eric> My Zen Archer does a world of hurt until his arrow run out
17:48 <Ballig> a quarterstaff is a two-handed weapon and is often held by a wizard while he casts
19:08 <Hydrazine> How easily could you make a non archetype monk that works that well, Eric?
19:37 <Ballig> 6 easily
19:56 <whitenoise> Ballig: very intriguing idea. a fighter in medium armor, quarterstaff, going either 5 wizard, or 3 wizard + 2 eldritch knight
20:09 <eric> range only, I wouldn't wantto melee with a monk. unless I had a level of Wizard and buffed first
20:20 <Ballig> whitenoise: keep in mind that armour has an "arcane spell failure"
20:29 <Ballig> giving you a percentage chance of arcane spells (e.g. wizard spells) you cast failing
20:35 <whitenoise> ahh
20:36 <Ballig> ways around it include feats like Arcane Armor Training
20:46 <Ballig> and carefully selected armour
20:49 <eric> and MAgus
20:52 <ducknuckem> I'm gonna have to write up a character.
21:02 <whitenoise> so you have to gear your gear/feats very carefully toward that kind of build
21:06 <whitenoise> rather than it just working
21:07 <ducknuckem> Except I am pretty sure there are too many people.
21:16 <Ballig> yeah
21:27 <Ballig> when you start combining classes you have to be careful about doing it right
21:52 <Ballig> ducknuckem: too many people for what
21:59 <eric> Plan where you'll be at 7 levels then decide how you want to multiclass
22:06 <ducknuckem> Playing on here.
22:16 <ducknuckem> That's what I was told last sunday.
22:21 <ducknuckem> 3 people too many or something.
22:27 <Hydrazine> Pretty much every time I talk about what I think is wrong with monks, someone mentions Zen Archer. I think this does more to prove my point than argue against it.
22:44 <Ballig> ducknuckem: I think that meant for the game being run this morning
22:48 <Ballig> it just means people who have signed up for the game
22:53 <ducknuckem> Ahkay.
23:04 <eric> Flurry of Arrows is being removed, but even a non-Zen can still be effective
23:12 <ducknuckem> Is there a link that gives the background on the campaign?
23:15 <Ballig> if you make a character and get invited to a game and accept the invitation before the slots get filled, you'll be playing
23:32 <Ballig> it's Pathfinder Society, so you'll want the PFS guidelines
23:41 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
23:48 <ducknuckem> I used to like monk because it was a good path to immortality through the Cloud Anchorite prestige class.
24:00 <ducknuckem> It was really difficult to find good immortality paths.
24:10 <ducknuckem> Evil ones were everywhere.
24:23 <ducknuckem> Just gotta go eat a live baby or something.
24:46 <eric> with or without sauce?
25:48 <Hydrazine> Without.
25:51 <Hydrazine> To be hardcore.
25:53 <eric> getting late, sincethat seemed funny. see you later
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26:22 <ducknuckem> I miss the diversity of 3.5
26:50 <Hydrazine> What makes you think it doesn't exist here?
27:33 <whitenoise> Ballig: are there any pros/cons to light/med/heavy armor for a fighter, if he can move the same speed in all of it?
27:56 <Ballig> he can't do it until higher levels
28:05 <Ballig> level 3 to move at regular speed in medium armour, level 7 for heavy armour
28:11 <whitenoise> ah
28:13 <Ballig> you still have the "armour check penalty" and "maximum dex" to consider, too
28:24 <Hydrazine> Indeed.
28:34 <Ballig> it's reduced for a fighter at those levels, too, but must be taken into account
28:40 <Avatar> the armor expert trait is your friend
29:00 <Hydrazine> General rule, a high dex score does good things for your armor if its light, much less so with medium and heavy.
29:22 <Hydrazine> and besides the move speed penalties, the armor check penalties with heavier armor can significantly affect how well you do simple things.
29:30 <whitenoise> so there's basically dex-warrior builds and str-warrior builds
29:32 <Hydrazine> Like swimming and climbing.
29:51 <whitenoise> swimming in plate mail would be difficult.
30:00 <Hydrazine> Depends on how strong you are!
30:10 <Ballig> and whether you're skilled at swimming in general
30:15 <Hydrazine> Indeed.
30:21 <Ballig> as a fighter I like to put points into things like climbing and swimming to offset the difficulties armour gives me
30:37 <ducknuckem> Hydrazine, I just figured that there aren't as many books covering as many topics in PF.
30:52 <ducknuckem> But I've read that you can use 3.5 books in PF.
30:53 <Hydrazine> And part of the advantage of full plate, is that it has less penalties than some of the cheaper heavy armors.
31:35 <whitenoise> no one has mentioned rogue as a good starter--does that mean its hard to play?
32:50 <Ballig> not necessarily
32:57 <Ballig> they can be difficult to be effective in combat
33:01 <Ballig> outside of combat they're pretty good
34:40 <whitenoise> i have yet to venture my mind to how something would perform outside of combat.
34:50 <whitenoise> whats the percentage of a scenario thats actually spent in combat?
35:07 <Ballig> it can depend on the scenario
35:17 <Ballig> but there's enough of both to want to be good at both if you can
35:26 <Ballig> skills are always important in PFS
35:57 <Hydrazine> Theres no big overall 'this much of the game is combat'.
36:22 <Hydrazine> But I can definately say theres challenges that arise that don't involve killing things.
36:49 <whitenoise> interesting
37:12 <Ballig> PFS does a good job of putting importance on skills
37:20 <Ballig> you definitely feel it if you dumpstat to the point of having no skills
37:42 <Avatar> yeah
38:47 <ducknuckem> Plus, your character might not be violent.  Book of Exalted Deeds.
39:09 <Hydrazine> Don't you give me that golden calf stuff!
39:13 <Ballig> ducknuckem: keep in mind you can't use 3.5 books in Pathfinder Society
39:19 <ducknuckem> Ah.
39:28 <Ballig> (you can use them in Pathfinder, but Pathfinder Society is the organised play version that restricts what you can use)
39:35 <ducknuckem> Ahkay.
39:47 <Hydrazine> I will say that I don't think a full blown pacifist would do well in the society either.
39:52 <ducknuckem> I have to buy the pdf off that site, don't I?
40:30 <Hydrazine> in pathfinder society, fights find YOU!
40:52 <Ballig> Pathfinder Society guide is free
41:05 <Hydrazine> I made a character thats notably more effective out of combat than in it, and I'm not sure if I wish to keep it that way.
41:49 <Hydrazine> Awesome as he may be at all sorts of things, he turns into a weight once a fight starts.
45:21 <Hydrazine> Iiii shot the channel!
45:30 <Hydrazine> But I did not shoot the dicebot..
46:52 <whitenoise> wel
46:58 <whitenoise> i'm being entirely undecisive about what i want.
47:12 <whitenoise> what do wizards wear...i guess its just not even considered armor?
47:32 <Hydrazine> Dresses.
47:46 <Hydrazine> Everyone knows you can't properly channel the mystical energy in trousers.
48:05 <dicebot> fuck you, you shot me
48:15 <Hydrazine> Bull!
49:13 <Hydrazine> Oh, so whitenoise, I was playing Rift, an MMO a while ago. And my 13 year old sister comes in to talk to me. Pathway though, she stops mid-sentence: "Are you wearing a dress?"
49:17 <Hydrazine> I was playing a mage, see.
49:36 <whitenoise> Hydrazine: dicebot is coming from his hometown, aiming to shoot you down.
49:44 <whitenoise> aha.
49:53 <whitenoise> but i figured robes would count as light armor
50:13 <Ballig> nah, clothing isn't armour
50:14 <Hydrazine> So I had to explain that you just can't make big explodey fireballs with pants on. Don't know why, just doesn't work.
50:26 <Hydrazine> If it offers no protection, it isn't armor.
50:27 <Ballig> Hydrazine: it's because your energy comes from the loins
50:31 <Ballig> it's loin energy, you see
50:37 <Ballig> if you constrict your energy source you just can't focus it properly
50:40 <Hydrazine> You know, that makes sense.
54:15 <whitenoise> I think I just can't go wrong with Wizard.
54:21 <whitenoise> The cantrips are useful inside and outside of fights
54:23 <Hydrazine> Go for it man.
54:28 <whitenoise> and they will get powerful in the end.
54:31 <whitenoise> and it will be fun
54:35 <Hydrazine> Always fragile though.
54:41 <Hydrazine> Gotta be careful of that.
54:46 <Ballig> biggest concern with a wizard is resource control
54:47 <whitenoise> hm
54:59 <Hydrazine> And spell selection.
55:00 <whitenoise> how do you really prevent yourself from just getting smashed?
55:06 <Hydrazine> I don't play wizards because of spell selection.
55:13 <Hydrazine> Teamwork?
55:13 <Ballig> if you blow everything in your first encounter, you will be weak for the rest of the scenario (unless there are rests in the scenario, there are chances to rest in some)
55:21 <Ballig> yeah, teamwork mostly
55:24 <Ballig> and good positioning
55:35 <Hydrazine> Yeah, you got to know where you need to be.
55:45 <whitenoise> oh, so
55:50 <Hydrazine> And you'll need your party to help protect you.
55:52 <whitenoise> scenarios aren't multi-day affairs?
55:59 <Hydrazine> Some are. Not all.
56:08 <Ballig> a wizard of mine only barely survived one scenario, it was an encounter where it was really easy for an enemy to sneak up from behind
56:17 <Ballig> which happened, but my wizard was just lucky enough to be in the middle of casting sleep
57:14 <whitenoise> nice
57:22 <whitenoise> alright, so
57:26 <whitenoise> for a Wizard, I'm feeling Elf?
57:42 <Hydrazine> A pretty common choice.
57:49 <Hydrazine> Elves are known for their magic and all.
57:58 <whitenoise> well and I get the archery fallback
58:15 <Hydrazine> My problem with wizards, I always pick the wrong spells.
58:22 <whitenoise> I also considered a dex fighter.
58:32 <whitenoise> giving him a polearm or a quarterstaff, light-medium armor, and just going to town.
58:45 <whitenoise> using the perk that switches me over to dex from str for my throws or whatever
59:14 <Hydrazine> two handed weapons get the big payoff from high strength.
59:25 <whitenoise> ah
59:42 <whitenoise> i'm just going to have a difficult time with my first character no matter what i pick, eh? :P
00:02 * Hydrazine shrugs.
01:47 <Ballig> there are a lot of intricacies
01:55 <Ballig> you can re-build your character while he's still level 1 though
02:02 <Ballig> so don't freak out too much about it
02:45 <Hydrazine> I'm considering tweaking Nearis with those rules, Ballig.
04:09 <whitenoise> monks seem sort of like jedi.
04:28 <Hydrazine> Other way around, I think.
04:37 <whitenoise> jedi seem sort of like monks?
04:39 <Ballig> jedi seem sort of like monks?
04:42 <Hydrazine> Precisely.
05:05 <Hydrazine> I'm sure the monks would insist they were around first.
05:51 <Ballig> I dunno
05:57 <Ballig> jedis existed a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away
06:19 <Hydrazine> From which the light has not yet reached us. Thus our monks have no knowledge of these monks.
06:22 <Hydrazine> Er, Jedi.
07:18 <Avatar> I miss playing star wars :(
07:27 <Hydrazine> What game?
07:39 <Ballig> I used to run a star wars d20 campaign here
07:49 <Hydrazine> Cool.
09:22 <Hydrazine> I've played a fair bit of future d20, but not in a specific star wars setting.
09:40 <ducknuckem> I'd like to play Dark Heresy one day.
10:40 <Hydrazine> Hm. Not sure if I'm really interested in playing it. Mostly I hear alot of horror stories from a friend playing DH under a shitty GM.
10:53 <Hydrazine> But the 40k universe is overally a terrible place to be.
11:13 <ducknuckem> Heheh.
11:17 <ducknuckem> Well it is pretty bleak.
11:43 <Hydrazine> Everything wants to kill everything else.
12:09 <ducknuckem> Pretty much.  It's the quake philosophy.
13:51 <whitenoise> interesting, interesting
13:57 <whitenoise> i just read a nice little guide on monks
14:54 <whitenoise> also, how do you control things like positioning?
15:08 <whitenoise> is that a roll? or do you just say .. "I'm behind so-and-so"
15:50 <Hydrazine> Uh, thats getting rather into the combat system.
16:18 <Hydrazine> If you have the space to move wide around, and the movement speed, you can get where you want to go.
16:40 <Hydrazine> Trying to move far while you're engaged in combat is alot more difficult.
17:17 <Hydrazine> What would you do if you were fighting someone and he just turns around and walks off?
21:31 <Avatar> star wars is superfun
21:59 <Ballig> I felt that there wasn't enough to spend resources on
22:05 <Hydrazine> I had a blast with Dragonstar.
26:21 <Avatar> the appeal wasn't buying shit though
26:29 <Avatar> it was using a lightsaber and the force
26:32 <Ballig> I think that's always part of the appeal for an RPG
26:37 <Avatar> and the universe
26:43 <Ballig> having something to collect resources for
29:18 <whitenoise> is it possible to turn into a shadowdancer from a fighter?
29:21 <whitenoise> or does that have to be a rogue
30:22 <Avatar> what are the pre-reqs
30:34 <whitenoise> Feats: Combat Reflexes, Dodge, Mobility.  Skills: Stealth 5 ranks, Perform (dance) 2 ranks.  
30:45 <Avatar> fighter can get those
30:48 <Ballig> yeah
31:09 <Ballig> the skill points can be a significant investment for a fighter, but the feats are an even more serious investment for a rogue
31:52 <Avatar> don't know about that
32:02 <Ballig> how so
32:03 <Avatar> those are all very solid feats, and you can't do it before level 5 anyway
32:15 <Ballig> it's still a significant investment for a rogue
32:24 <Ballig> it's like every one of his feats at level 5, unless he's human
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32:57 <Rymen13> hello
33:02 <Avatar> rymen
33:05 <Ballig> sup
33:08 <Avatar> I think your sheet needs fixing
33:16 <Rymen13> yah what?
33:23 <Rymen13> like what does
33:50 <Avatar> 18 is 17 points
33:55 <Avatar> 13 is 3 points
33:58 <Avatar> 12 is 2 points
34:03 <Avatar> = 22
34:14 <Ballig> what's the charname
34:20 <Rymen13> ohhh ok ill change right now
34:20 <Avatar> sara
34:23 <Ballig> !findchar Sara
34:25 <diebot> Ballig, Character: Sara, number: ( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char= )
34:40 <Rymen13> not there yet how do i uplaod it
35:17 <Ballig> how did you make it? text file?
36:08 <Rymen13> pdf
36:20 <Ballig> ahh
36:31 <Rymen13> and the 12 to 10 would make it fit right?
36:34 <Hydrazine> The word of the day is 'opprobrium'
36:47 <Avatar> yeah
37:29 <Avatar> do tieflings get infernal
37:40 <Rymen13> there and sorry im not going to be able to make it tonight im doing one this morning
37:59 <Rymen13> yes infernal or abyssal
38:18 <Avatar> which one can't you make
38:26 <Rymen13> the one your hosting
38:32 <Avatar> shades of ice
38:52 <Rymen13> the tier 1-7 i can make
39:14 <Avatar> what time is the shades of ice game for you
39:40 <Rymen13> yours? umm 11pm to 3 am or so
39:55 <Avatar> might need to start running these games earlier
40:02 <Rymen13> the one i accepted is 5:30am
40:26 <Rymen13> yah sorry 12pm - 1am is a limit for me
40:37 <Rymen13> most nights
40:39 <Avatar> could've changed it if you told me earlier
40:50 <Rymen13> awww sorry
41:15 <Rymen13> can yyou run an extra if there is enough people?
41:39 <Avatar> if we have 2 GMs we can run 2 games if there's too many people
42:03 <whitenoise> my goal is to roll a character this upcoming week, so that i can get into a game this upcoming Friday
42:11 <whitenoise> er, my Friday, your Saturday
42:28 <whitenoise> roll my character up, learn all I need to about rules/gameplay
42:32 <whitenoise> and just be awesome
42:35 <Rymen13> lol
42:58 <Rymen13> im not that great i get close to dieing alot
43:23 <Rymen13> but you need my char sheet again avatar?
43:33 <Avatar> you need to get it uploaded somewhere
43:42 <Avatar> get a dropbox account or something
44:16 <Rymen13> yah i do ill get one i sent it to you
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44:30 <Rymen13> ok ill do that right now
44:41 <Mort> god
44:44 <Mort> tired as heck
44:46 Mort is now known as Mort-
44:47 <Hydrazine> whitenoise: I won't be around too much tomorrow evening, but I'm here pretty much every other day, and I'm becoming an expert on helping folk make their first characters.
44:49 * Mort- unlfuffs her fur
44:55 <Mort-> lol
44:59 <Mort-> dont expect me to be any help for now
45:02 * Mort- takes a nap on Hydrazine
45:05 * Mort- fluffs Niel
45:07 * Hydrazine explodes.
45:20 <Mort-> what?
45:23 <Mort-> hey I just took a nap on you..
45:36 <Hydrazine> You shouldn't sleep in highly volatile chemicals.
45:39 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7 reflex save again
45:40 <diebot> Mort-, reflex save again: [1d20=9] 16
45:41 <Mort-> Im dead tired..
45:46 <Mort-> ive been up since 5.30 am today
45:46 <whitenoise> Morrrrt
46:26 <Hydrazine> you know, even if you manage to get into contact with hydrazine and not end up exploded..
46:45 <Hydrazine> seizures and comas are still known effects.
46:50 <Ballig> !throw 2d6 axes to the face!
46:51 <diebot> Ballig, axes to the face!: [2d6=6,6] 12
46:59 <Ballig> that's a lot of axes
47:20 <whitenoise> Mort-: i was trying to find you earlier, I was going to watch your game. But then I learned it was recommended I not watch.
47:36 <whitenoise> so I've been pestering people about nuances, and trying to figure out what race/class I want to be.
47:45 <Hydrazine> Whats the command to accept PMs from everybody again?
47:58 <Mort-> I dont kwo..
48:00 <Ballig> /mode Hydrazine -R
48:02 * Mort- becomes a lemur rug on the floor
48:06 * Mort- is just tired
48:15 <Mort-> waiting for mek..to cast rez on me
48:16 <Hydrazine> There.
48:59 <Rymen13> well i have a dropbox now
49:01 <Hydrazine> whitenoise, feel free to pm me any questions you got on character creation, I'll definately get around to them within a day.
49:10 <Avatar> did you upload it
49:17 <Mort-> Im sorry..if I had more energy Id help..
49:17 <whitenoise> neato
49:25 * Mort- takes a nap on Rymen13 as well
49:25 <whitenoise> its 2AM here
49:27 <whitenoise> i need to go to bed.
49:29 <Rymen13> yep should upload my char on dropbox
49:32 <Hydrazine> Same.
49:33 <Mort-> its 2.49 pm here
49:34 <Mort-> :D
49:35 <Avatar> anyone can help with character creation
49:36 <Mort-> hydra is a nightbird
49:44 <Hydrazine> I'm not a bird.
49:47 <whitenoise> lol
49:49 <Mort-> okay night gas.
49:50 <Avatar> pm'ing someone is sort of the worst way to get that help since it's 1 out of 10 people who will help you
49:55 <Mort-> I keep thinking he is an owl
50:00 <Hydrazine> I prefer liquid phase.
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50:34 <Rymen13> how do i attach it to my account?
50:46 <Mort-> register and ...
50:52 <Mort-> I think..avatar how do you do it?
51:08 <Rymen13> its up in my side
51:43 <Hydrazine> Huh.
51:52 <Hydrazine> I have a freezing point very close to that of water.
51:57 <Hydrazine> Didn't know that before.
53:50 <Rymen13> wow its quiet now
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54:24 <Ballig> sup P.B.
54:29 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
54:31 <Mort-> her it is
54:41 <Mort-> tahts te guide I use to create my characters
54:46 <paul_banks> nothing
54:49 <Mort-> sorry. would stay to explain but I sort of need to run soon
55:09 <Mort-> tell mek I came and will be around once game starts
55:17 <Mort-> but if Im to make it I better run my errands now
55:18 <Mort-> really quickly
59:30 <Avatar> Rymen13: what's the link to your sheet
59:43 <Rymen13> ohh ok illl get it lol
00:25 <Rymen13> https://www.dropbox.com/s/16jctnm3tadmudr/Pathfinder%20society%20char.pdf
00:41 <Rymen13> you have to dowlaod it to displeay
01:33 <Rymen13> https://www.dropbox.com/s/16jctnm3tadmudr/Pathfinder%20society%20char.pdf
01:42 <Rymen13> why wont it work
02:03 <Ballig> looks empty
02:08 <Ballig> sure you uploaded the right one
02:29 <Rymen13> i know but its full on my side hold uon
02:35 <Ballig> ah no, downloading it does show the text
02:42 <Ballig> I can see the text now
03:59 <Rymen13> ahh  ok
04:10 <Rymen13> good
05:11 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=489
05:14 <Avatar> there you go
05:31 <Rymen13> thanks
06:32 <Rymen13> can you put there you have to download it to see it
06:43 <Rymen13> or do people anyway
07:30 <Avatar> I don't have to download it to see it
08:18 <Rymen13> oh really to see the numbers?
08:39 <Rymen13> ahh maybe not adobe
09:23 <Ballig> it's probably a browser t hing
09:26 <Ballig> I use firefox, Avatar uses chrome
10:00 <Wrothmonk> Hey quick question. Am I allowed to ONLY purchase items from my chronicle sheet or from stores in a game?
10:14 <Rymen13> thats it
10:23 <Rymen13> i use firefox to
10:26 <Ballig> there are items that are considered 'always available'
10:42 <Ballig> so mundane items from the core rulebook, +1 weapons, +1 armour, etc are all "always available"
10:51 <Ballig> beyond that your ability to buy something is limited to how much Fame you have
11:03 <Ballig> the more Fame you have, the more expensive an item are able to purchase
11:10 <Ballig> items on a chronicle sheet get added to your "always available" list
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14:03 <Wrothmonk> Ah. I see.
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14:13 [1]Rymen13 is now known as Rymen13
14:24 <Rymen13> there we go got irc up
15:27 <Ballig> huzzah
19:19 <Wrothmonk> +1 weapons? +1 what?
20:00 <Ballig> +1 to hit and damage
20:24 <Mekkis> how did it go Mort-?
21:46 <Wrothmonk> What about masterwork stuff? Is that considered always available?
22:03 <Ballig> yeah
22:22 <Wrothmonk> Cool.
22:30 <Ballig> you can "upgrade" weapons and armour to +1 (which is known as enchanting it) in PFS, as long as it's already masterwork
23:00 <Ballig> so if you plan on getting a +1 weapon at some stage, your first step is to buy a masterwork weapon of that type
23:07 <Ballig> (which gives you +1 to attack, but not to damage)
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06:29 <Rymen13> back
06:36 <Ballig> that's what she said!
06:41 <Rymen13> lol
07:57 <Rymen13> well im waiting for the 5:30 am game i hope it still will go on since theres only 2 that have sighned up
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13:44 <Ballig> I think mort wants to play it too
17:47 <Rymen13> oh really?
18:59 <Ballig> think so
19:59 <Rymen13> cool that would make it 3
20:34 <Avatar> it's good to see you can count
21:00 <Rymen13> lol and i can tell time its in an hour
21:10 <Avatar> when I saw the 22 on your sheet I wasn't so sure but now I am more confident
21:23 <Rymen13> LOL
22:51 <Rymen13> so how do we get to the irc channel they will play in? will there be an annoucementr or somthing?
24:09 <Ballig> it'll be here, most likely
24:46 <Avatar> yeah mekkis is running devil we know
24:47 <Avatar> in CA
24:48 <Avatar> anyway
25:01 <Ballig> ha
25:55 <Rymen13> ok how do i login to that will i be given a servername or do we know it already?
26:05 <Ballig> yeah you'll get an address
26:09 <Rymen13> ok
26:18 <Ballig> anyway
45:31 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 11th 7.30pm (Mekkis,tier 1-7) / Sun 12th 1pm (Avatar,tier 1-5) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
45:31 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Aug 11 07:18:44 2012
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48:47 <Brunius> Dat windows 7
49:31 <Ballig> is it sexy
49:44 <Brunius> Absorutrey
50:05 <Brunius> I don't have a windows key though
50:08 <Brunius> It's rather annoying
50:18 <Ballig> aren't you meant to have one if you got it for free
50:28 <Brunius> Yeah
50:44 <Brunius> One of my friends said it was coded into the disk
50:49 <Brunius> But it still asked me
50:54 <Brunius> So I guess I'll wait and see
51:16 <Brunius> How do I change the mIRC font
51:47 <Ballig> view>fonts
52:00 <Brunius> Thanks
52:02 <Ballig> courier size 10!
52:07 <Brunius> That bold was annoying
52:13 <Brunius> I'm in courier new :)
52:16 <Ballig> black background, white text
52:17 <Ballig> only way to go
53:22 <Brunius> Yeah
55:11 <Avatar> courier new
55:14 <Brunius> Bloody steam guard
55:54 <Avatar> I just use arial 8 bold
55:59 <Avatar> anyway
56:21 <Ballig> arial isn't fixed size
56:35 <Ballig> fixed width, rather
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57:21 <Avatar> yeah
57:24 <Avatar> don't need it
57:41 <Avatar> unless you want to post things like this
57:44 <Avatar> .-._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
57:45 <Avatar> .-''-.__.-'00 '-' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '-.
57:45 <Avatar> '.___ ' . .--_'-' '-' '-' _'-' '._
57:45 <Avatar> V: V 'vv-' '_ '. .' _..' '.'.
57:45 <Avatar> '=.____.=_.--' :_.__.__:_ '. : :
57:45 <Avatar> (((____.-' '-. / : :
57:45 <Avatar> (((-'\ .' /
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57:58 <Ballig> you always need it
58:01 <Ballig> fixed width is the way to go
58:06 <Avatar> what for
58:14 <Ballig> symmetry
58:22 <Brunius> consistency
58:29 <Avatar> what do you need symmetry for
58:37 <Avatar> it's not even symmetrical
58:38 <Ballig> symmetry is innately desirable
58:45 <Ballig> sure it is
58:50 <Ballig> like your nick and my nick line up perfectly
59:00 <Avatar> but who cares
59:04 <Avatar> yours and brunius' don't
00:28 <Ballig> http://i.imgur.com/SIDdw.png
00:30 <Ballig> look how sexy that is
01:12 <Avatar> I like my sweet picture
05:16 Brunius is now known as Bruniu
05:20 <Bruniu> Happy Avatar
05:29 <Ballig> ha
06:45 <Bruniu> when I can get another vhost it will be s.is.a.stalker
06:53 <Avatar> you can't cheat the system
07:06 <Avatar> I will start calling you Bruniu
07:12 <Avatar> Bruniu the stalker
10:59 Bruniu is now known as Brunius
17:34 <Rymen13> 10 mins left or so yay lol
19:31 <Mekkis> who's here?
20:55 <Rymen13> i am
21:15 <Brunius> I'm not
21:25 <Avatar> don't lie brunius
21:31 <Brunius> Ok, I am.
23:57 <Brunius> But I probably shouldn't play tonight
27:21 <Ballig> there's mort
27:35 <Rymen13> where?
27:41 <Ballig> she just signed on skype
27:43 <Ballig> I'm only assuming she'll sign on here
27:47 <Rymen13> cool
27:57 <Ballig> the other person who's signed up to play was Wrothmonk
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28:17 <Ballig> what a flooder
28:18 Mort ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
28:22 <Ballig> mort the flooder
28:24 * Mort stirs
28:30 Mort is now known as Mort-
28:45 <Mort-> ready and waiting mek
28:54 <Ballig> looks like you just need Wrothmonk and you have 3 people
29:19 <Mekkis> yep
29:47 <Mort-> btw mek I just thought of a nice rogue!
29:50 * Mort- blushes..
29:56 <Ballig> how did your game go today Mort
29:59 <Mort-> me?
30:03 <Mort-> tiring on the gm side
30:08 <Ballig> no the other Mort :p
30:09 <Mort-> keeping track of 6 people bullying my monsters..
30:13 <Mort-> is quite interesting
30:18 <Rymen13> lol
30:23 <Ballig> 6 player table is always exhausting
30:27 <Mort-> yeah tired..
30:36 <Rymen13> yeh it is
30:36 <Mort-> and yes mek I just thought of an awesome rogue trick!
30:38 * Mort- giggles
30:45 <Rymen13> what?
30:45 <Mort-> btw Rymen. this is me.
30:48 <Mort-> neverdemind
30:56 <Mort-> Im prolly going to try it out on msyelf next time there's firststeps
31:01 <Ballig> anyway
31:13 <Mort-> ready and waitin..
31:33 <Mekkis> do we have Wrothmonk?
31:37 <Rymen13> me too since like 5 hours ago had nothing to do
31:44 <Mort-> hopefully I dont get sloppy tactics due to zz ness
31:48 <Mort-> were going to game for another 5 h more
31:52 <Mort-> if you dont mind jump in?
32:04 <Mort-> oh ya I get ot use my syn
32:05 <Mort-> one last time..
32:09 * Mort- has a big grin
32:10 <Ballig> best I can do is email him if you want me to
32:13 <Ballig> Wrothmonk, I mean
32:21 <Mekkis> please do, Ballig 
32:31 <Rymen13> im a tiefling rogue
32:40 <Mort-> hes not on my skype
32:43 <Mort-> you can play thiefling now?
32:48 <Mort-> Im out of touch with characters
32:50 <Mekkis> not officially
32:53 <Ballig> I emailed him
32:54 <Rymen13> yep and assmar and tengu
33:02 <Mekkis> tieflings are legal as of the 16th of August
33:02 <Rymen13> yes you can
33:05 <Mort-> Brunius?
33:07 <Ballig> you can play them after Thursday
33:13 <Mort-> whats kapow anwyay
33:14 <Mort-> wheres
33:17 <Rymen13> what??
33:17 <Mort-> hes around?
33:18 <Mekkis> Brisbane
33:21 <Mort-> he should get his monehs..
33:32 <Mort-> I was rushing the sheets so if he came for this game he would have his moneys
33:34 <Rymen13> why is it updated now then
33:36 <Mort-> time to be not human
33:47 <Mekkis> Rymen13, however, I'll let you play this, and risk the wrath of my local Venture Captain (1600km away)
33:57 <Mort-> trying to find kapow anywae
34:04 <Mort-> btw mekkis consideinrg the rest are all 1s
34:07 <Mort-> Im gonna play this at 1-2
34:10 <Mort-> and hope I dont get pwned
34:12 <Mort-> xyn has limitations too
34:16 <Rymen13> ok thanks sorry
34:20 <Mort-> but Im glad its xyn doing it and not kalara..
34:23 <Mekkis> that's fine
34:26 <Mort-> at least more room for screwups
34:35 <Mort-> she uh has 4 paddy paws..
35:00 <Rymen13> i ddint see that i saw the new rules thought they could be played should look better next time
35:23 <Mort-> kapow isnt picking up his cell
36:03 <Rymen13> but anyway i am a rashkasha born so i can detect thoughts once a day
36:22 * Mort- hopes for Rymens sake he isnt evil
36:29 <Mekkis> what's the DC?
36:36 <Rymen13> no lawful neutral
36:50 <Rymen13> oh un your level is its cl
37:01 <Rymen13> or was it 1/2
37:12 <Rymen13> anyway for me CL is 1
37:13 <Mort-> no cha mod?
37:16 <Mort-> or something like that?
37:19 <Mort-> usuaully slas have some mods
37:21 <Rymen13> yes 1
37:44 <Rymen13> 18 dex to +2 to 20
37:50 <Mort-> nooo....
37:56 <Mort-> wait. Thiefling rogue?
37:57 <Mort-> oh shit
38:01 <Mort-> I think we should get along
38:02 <Rymen13> why
38:07 <Rymen13> lol
38:08 <Mort-> I have some rogue in me
38:11 <Rymen13> nice
38:15 <Mort-> it usualy doesnt show but when it does..
38:18 <Mort-> its interesting
38:42 <Rymen13> its in my dropbox if you want to see
38:48 <Mort-> nah
38:54 <Mort-> bit lazy to calc anyones sheets atm
39:03 * Mort- has a lazy tail
39:12 <Rymen13> ok
39:29 <Mort-> thank goodness not playing magus today
39:35 <Mort-> magus is more concentration intensive
39:56 batmanpug is now known as bort
40:11 <Mekkis> bort?
40:20 <Rymen13> ??
40:35 <Mort-> its paul banks
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51:04 * Mort- slaps Wrothmonk around a bit with a large trout
51:08 <Rymen13> lol
52:01 <Mort-> now slapping is impolite. so dont follow my example
52:11 <Mort-> I just..didnt realise that I still knew how to slap people with trouts
52:20 <Rymen13> maybe that will wake him up
52:27 <Mort-> not if he isnt there
52:33 <Mort-> ideally you want ot ovice call for that
52:34 <Rymen13> lol
55:01 <Rymen13> wow im falling asleep
55:12 <Rymen13> pull an all nighter
55:21 <Rymen13> *pulled
55:44 <Rymen13> been up for 24 hours
56:38 <Mort-> uh oh
56:43 <Mort-> Ive only been up for 12 hrs
57:29 <Rymen13> well ive been up with coffee and im only 21 so those 2 mixed helps me stay awake
57:47 <Mort-> haha
57:49 <Mort-> Im 4 years older
57:56 <Mort-> Ive done 48 no sleep I think
58:00 <Rymen13> wow
58:00 <Mort-> but neverdemind
58:03 * Mort- grins
58:09 <Mort-> okay 48 hrs on 4 hr sleep
58:10 <Ballig> anyway
58:10 <Mort-> I think
58:11 <Mekkis> how annoying
58:12 <Mort-> npps
58:42 <Rymen13> whats annoying
58:47 <Mort-> 2 peeps
58:53 <Rymen13> ahh
58:53 <Mort-> need 1 more and we can go on a nice adventure..
58:58 <Mort-> at least...Id get to play xyn one last time
59:01 * Mort- sniffs
59:05 <Mort-> its like god damn..Noo...
59:13 <Ballig> why would you throw a scenario away on a character you are being forced to retire
59:19 <Mort-> I wont retire
59:22 <Mekkis> rebuild, not retire
59:23 <Mort-> 1 scneario I hit 4
59:25 <Ballig> oh, right
59:31 <Ballig> that makes more sense then
59:32 <Mort-> that means I get more levels to play with
59:39 <Mort-> I just want to remember her as she is
59:44 * Mort- gives a sniff
00:07 <Mort-> and once August 16th comes...
00:08 <Mekkis> feel like pulling out two pregens and running it regardless?
00:12 <Mort-> I dont mind
00:14 <Mort-> Id say bring it on
00:20 <Mort-> I can play 2 pregens if I must
00:23 <Rymen13> yah lets do it
00:26 <Mort-> at most xyn just gets to eat all the crap
00:34 <Mort-> (now usually I wouldnt try it on most characters but...)
00:41 <Mekkis> sure
00:42 <Mort-> xyn's special
00:44 <Mort-> you'll see
00:44 <Mekkis> who are you bringing
00:48 <Mort-> get kyra and erzen out I think
00:50 <Mort-> Ill tank
01:00 <Mort-> btw I do want erzen to bring sleep + colourspray
01:00 <Mort-> thx
01:02 * Mekkis killed Kyra and Ezren last Sunday :)
01:07 <Mort-> yeah you nubtard
01:10 * Mort- hugs mek though
01:11 <Brunius> You monster
01:11 <Mort-> god..
01:14 <Mort-> BRUNIUS
01:17 <Rymen13> ahh
01:19 * Mort- jumps up and down on big bru
01:28 * Mort- fluffles him neatly
01:33 <Brunius> ILY Mort-
01:38 <Mort-> u free?
01:42 * Mort- tumbles brunius over
01:45 <Mort-> Im sure he has some toon
01:48 <Mort-> or has he played before?
01:51 <Avatar> what's going on
01:55 <Avatar> aren't 3 of you here
02:03 <Rymen13> no just 2
02:05 <Brunius> What scenario is it?
02:07 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk is not responding
02:08 <Avatar> where is wrothmonk
02:13 <Mort-> trying to get enough peeps for mek's scenario
02:20 <Mekkis> so I might need to terminate the process and return to Windows :)
02:26 <ducknuckem> mek's scenario?
02:28 <Brunius> :)
02:30 <Mekkis> (or Linux as the case may be )
02:32 <Avatar> yeah
02:35 <Avatar> do you want to play duck
02:46 <Mort-> the devil we know
03:13 <Mekkis> I ran it for Squirrel, Jevouse, Avatar and Brunius 
03:18 <Mort-> oh okay
03:19 <Mort-> jevouse
03:19 <Mort-> lol
03:20 <ducknuckem> I guess so, but I know little about it.
03:22 <Mekkis> on 11-04-2012
03:22 <Brunius> Man
03:24 <Mort-> k then
03:25 <Brunius> The squirrel days
03:49 <Brunius> Where did he go anyway
04:33 <Mort-> okay then
04:39 <Mort-> lets do 2 pregens
04:42 <Mort-> get erzen and kyra
04:47 <Mort-> I need to practice sleep magics
04:53 <Mort-> and shield erzen with my will
05:10 <Mekkis> could one of you start the skype conference call please?
05:22 <Mort-> Ill do it
05:26 <Rymen13> oh i need to get skype hold on
05:28 <Mort-> rymen
05:31 <Mort-> tell me your skype Ill do it
05:35 <Mort-> I was gming all mornin
05:38 * Mort- grins
05:45 <Mort-> yes. I can put on my monster suit
05:54 <Rymen13> yah need to create one i have it on my computer jsut a sec
06:35 <Mekkis> in the meantime, change your nick to the nick of your PC
06:42 <Mekkis> and PM me your PFS number and faction
06:50 Mort- is now known as Xyniel
06:59 <Mekkis> and a link to your character sheet...
08:19 * Mekkis bought the Advanced Race Guide and the Book of Exalted Deeds today
09:00 <Rymen13> ok got it up
09:56 <Rymen13> hold on updating lol
10:03 <Mekkis> what's your skype name?
10:10 <Xyniel> he hasnt added me
10:13 <Xyniel> huichun.li here
10:17 <Xyniel> I can host call
10:28 <Xyniel> I guess I need to paly both erzen and kyra
10:29 <Xyniel> god.
10:33 <Mekkis> yeah
10:36 <Xyniel> consdiering I have more experience?
10:47 * Xyniel draws on the last of her combat gift to power up
10:50 <Mekkis> and this next chronicle sheet will need a LOT of writing on if for Xyniel :)
11:03 <Xyniel> why?
11:12 <Brunius> Synth
11:19 <Brunius> It'll probably need to list changes?
11:24 <Mekkis> yeah
11:29 <Xyniel> list what changes?
11:34 <Xyniel> Ill change into something else
11:35 <Mekkis> a list of everything you've changed with your rebuild
11:38 <Xyniel> Im almost postive Ill turn druid
11:41 <Xyniel> lol
11:49 <Rymen13> its ryan.tolman2
12:12 <Xyniel> hi pressed yes
12:15 <Xyniel> do you want me to
13:07 <Rymen13> got you mek
13:35 <Xyniel> yes I can hear 
14:08 <Mekkis> and PM me your PFS number and faction
14:20 <Mekkis> /nick charname
14:20 <Xyniel> oh god
14:24 <Xyniel> I really have to play erzen and kyra
14:31 Rymen13 is now known as Sara
14:44 Mekkis sets mode -R Mekkis
15:27 <Xyniel> sorry I really cant be playing kalara with 1 1s and 2 pregens
15:30 <Xyniel> just mail him if you want
17:29 <Xyniel> Oh my
21:40 <Mekkis> Venture-Captain Hestia Themis, a small, unassuming woman
21:40 <Mekkis> of Taldan heritage with dark hair and eyes, holds a large
21:40 <Mekkis> sheaf of papers in her small hands and clears her throat. Her
21:40 <Mekkis> booming voice, the antithesis of her stature, fills the main hall
21:40 <Mekkis> of the small Pathfinder Lodge in the Taldan city of Cassomir.
22:16 <Mekkis> “One of our own has been kidnapped. Pathfinder Cestis was
22:16 <Mekkis> taken just days ago from a relics auction in the Imperial Naval
22:16 <Mekkis> Shipyards, and we believe his dissapearance to be related to
22:16 <Mekkis> the six dozen or so kidnappings of the last several months.
22:16 <Mekkis> Now that one of our own is missing, this has become a Society
22:16 <Mekkis> matter—something we’ll get to the bottom of.”
23:11 <Mekkis> Themis gestures to a teenage boy standing beside her, who
23:11 <Mekkis> nervously regards his surroundings and sweats profusely,
23:11 <Mekkis> his thick brown hair matted and wet against his head. “This
23:11 <Mekkis> is Nefti, the assistant to the biggest thorn in my side in
23:11 <Mekkis> Cassomir—an agent of the Aspis Consortium named Kafar.
23:11 <Mekkis> Kafar is also missing, taken from the same relics auction along
23:11 <Mekkis> with Pathfinder Cestis and a dozen other citizens of Cassomir.
23:11 <Mekkis> Nefti was at the auction, saw where a small group of the
23:11 <Mekkis> kidnapped victims were taken, and his handlers in Cassomir
23:11 <Mekkis> have give us access to him so that he might guide us to our
23:11 <Mekkis> missing Pathfinder. If you happen to find Kafar...” Themis
23:11 <Mekkis> grinds her teeth. “Let him go, per the agreement I’ve just
23:11 <Mekkis> made with his superiors. Your priority is Cestis, and I think
23:11 <Mekkis> Nefti can lead you to him. Any questions?”
23:16 <Xyniel> hodl on mek I need to read stuff..
23:38 <Xyniel> wait
23:41 <Xyniel> I need to read all that
25:09 <Xyniel> the teenage boy is called nefti?
25:35 <Mekkis> "Yes.. that... Boy over there is Nefti."
25:52 <Xyniel> "Where is the imperial naval shipyards?"
26:18 <Xyniel> "Who are the ohter people of prominence who have dissappeared?"
26:31 <Sara> i see you seem not to like him why is that>
26:41 <Xyniel> "Ill tell you later Sara"
26:50 <Xyniel> "First we have a job to do"
27:15 <Xyniel> "Ive had some experiences with the Aspis consortium"
27:23 <Xyniel> "Less say I am here only because of my pathfinder duties"
27:26 <Mekkis> "He's an Aspis Consortium member. They steal and sell artifacts, they've screwed over our dealings before. They even tortured several of our agents. You may have heard of Cairo, for instance?"
27:39 <Xyniel> "Yes. They also torture slaves"
27:45 <Mekkis> "Lost a few pounds of flesh. The marks are still visible!"
27:56 <Xyniel> "Keeping them working in sub-zero temperature..without any protection"
27:56 <Sara> ahh no wonder
28:11 <Brunius> Avatar
28:17 <Xyniel> "But anwyay, we have a job to do, and as a pathfinder, it is my duty to carry it out, no matter how..distasteful it may be"
28:19 <Mekkis> "The Naval Shipyards? Didn't you pass them as you came in. It's where the Taldan Navy maintains their fleet."
28:21 * Xyniel sighs
28:36 <Mekkis> "But now..." she spits on the ground.. "We're working with them"
28:37 <Xyniel> "Have there been sightings of suspicious characters at the naval shipyards?:"
28:49 <Xyniel> "Under whose jurisdiction are the naval shipyards?"
28:51 <Mekkis> "This is Cassomir. Everyone is suspicious."
29:12 <Xyniel> "There should have at least been some kind of police force, or some person in charge of law an order there"
29:20 <Xyniel> "Without law and order, trade cannot continue peacefully"
29:32 <Sara> true very true
29:35 <Xyniel> "
29:48 <Xyniel> "Who overseas the comings and goings in the naval district"
30:21 <Xyniel> btw at this point of time mek..Im no longer human already
30:27 <Xyniel> Im a white sphinix with 2 hands, and silver eyes!
30:46 <Mekkis> "The kidnappings started a few months ago. Cassomir has always had some trouble with citizens going missing, but this was different. Only those associated with the Imperial Naval Shipyards were taken - shipwrites, carpenters, navy guards and so on. This recent kidnapping, where they took Cestis, was brash and bold. They grabbed more than a dozen people, neglecting to grab Nefti. Their mistake is our opportunity."
31:09 <Xyniel> "So Nefti here says that he knows where his master has been taken right?"
31:17 <Mekkis> "He does."
31:19 <Xyniel> "yet Nefti is one of the aspis consortium, what an interesting conundrum"
31:39 <Xyniel> "I will watch my back"
31:46 <Mekkis> "As you should."
31:48 <Sara> me too
31:55 <Xyniel> "So is it possible to track a pattern how the shipwrites disappeared?
32:02 <Xyniel> "And also were there any traces of their kidnappers?
32:08 <Xyniel> "What do we know about this recent kidnapping?"
33:07 <Mekkis> "There are... rumors of twisted men from the Darklands who climb up through Cassomir’s Locker, the sewers, catacombs, and older ruins below the city. Alas, they are only rumors. We don’t know who’s doing it."
33:09 <Xyniel> 'I would first like to speak to the security at the Naval yards, and the areas in which the kidnappings take place"
33:19 <Xyniel> "what do we know about cassomirs locker then?"
33:21 <Mekkis> "I suggest you follow Nefti's lead."
33:24 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Mekkis
33:31 <Mekkis> Xyniel, knowledge History please
33:32 <Xyniel> "Indeed, yet do we know how much he can be trusted?"
33:41 <Xyniel> erzen will maek if he has
33:59 * Xyniel asks Erzen on what does he know about cassomirs lockers
34:14 <Xyniel> !throw 1d20+8 knowledge history for Erzen
34:14 <diebot> Xyniel, knowledge history for Erzen: [1d20=13] 21
34:16 <Xyniel> k
34:27 <Mekkis> "We are trusting, and verifying. That's what you're here for."
34:29 <Xyniel> "I am not learned, wise one, could you please enlighten me?"
34:43 <Xyniel> (thats what he said?)
35:08 <Xyniel> "What do we know about those twisted men as well?"
35:15 <Mekkis> "And recall that in Cassomir, it's best not to attract attention like that, Xyniel. Having a devil-blooded is enough of an issue, without dealing with eldritch abominations!"
35:30 <Xyniel> "He is my companion, and as such I am duty bound to protect him"
35:48 <Mekkis> "I meant yourself, Xyniel."
35:56 <Sara> hehe
35:59 <Xyniel> "Me? This is a blessing from my goddess"
36:02 * Xyniel looks midly offended
36:38 <Mekkis> "It's also a big sign saying 'There's something strange going on here.'"
36:41 <Xyniel> "My goddess grants me strength so I may purge the lands of evil"
36:43 <Sara> dont worry i can cover up pretty well
36:44 <Mekkis> "Very conspicuous"
36:56 <Xyniel> "I see, so my current form will not serve too well then?"
37:09 <Avatar> who's the third player in this game
37:20 <Mekkis> "At least while being here."
37:22 <Xyniel> soosh. Im having fun
37:33 <Xyniel> "Within this city?"
37:33 <Avatar> is this a legal game
37:39 <Sara> a pregen
37:55 <Xyniel> "Okay what do we knwo about those twisted men then?"
37:57 <Avatar> you need 3 players for it to be legal, plus 1 pregen
37:59 <Mekkis> "If you get indoors, to somewhere with less people looking around, then yes"
38:25 * Xyniel sighs..
38:28 <Mekkis> "It would be inappropriate for you to deal with this outside."
38:51 <Avatar> guys, stop playing for a second and work this out
38:52 <Xyniel> "Hrmmm..."
38:59 <Avatar> what are you doing
39:02 <Xyniel> "Do people in this city have exotic pets?"
39:03 <Sara> i am
39:20 <Sara> ive stopped
39:26 <Xyniel> ...
39:28 <Avatar> mekkis?
39:44 <Mekkis> "Not often"
40:02 <Xyniel> "Do you think it would come amiss if my companion held my..."leash?"
40:30 <Mekkis> "Hmm.. Perhaps."
40:43 <Mekkis> "But after all, it's your judgement"
40:50 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
40:51 <Xyniel> "We'll see how it goes then.."
40:54 Avatar sets mode +m #d&d
41:06 Mekkis sets mode -m #d&d
41:06 <Avatar> mekkis why are you running a game with 2 pregens
41:09 <Xyniel> "So who was in charge of the dock authorities?"
41:11 * Avatar removes channel operator status from Mekkis
41:14 <Xyniel> "Again?"
41:15 Avatar sets mode +m #d&d
41:53 <Avatar> tell me in pm before this continues
43:50 <Mekkis> ok
43:51 * #d&d :Cannot send to channel (+m)
44:02 <Avatar> rymen, if this table isn't legal, your character doesn't get experience and you burn a scenario because you get all the spoilers from it
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51:31 * #d&d :Cannot send to channel (+m)
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51:26 <whitenoise> hullo
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51:36 <Ballig> sup
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