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21:14 <+electrohead> o/
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40:38 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
40:44 <Ampera> how are you doing electronugget?
43:38 <+electrohead> more and more names, I see
43:54 * electrohead stabs Ampera with love
44:02 <Ampera> heckyeah sparklehead
44:18 <+electrohead> lol, hey man. I'm alright, tired as fuck, was awake until 5 am, yay
44:29 <Ampera> you need to get woke
44:38 <+electrohead> I'm heading out to the store, will be back then
44:46 <+electrohead> I expect coffee to be made by the time I get back
44:49 <+electrohead> :p
44:56 <Ampera> I will make tea, just to spite you
18:00 <rust_collector> hmm, does anyone here have a good way to translate floppys with stuff made in word perfect, on an acorn machine, to something readable by a normal confuser?
18:15 <rust_collector> make roasted bean tea
18:40 <K> are there acorn machine emulators?
18:54 <K> (i do not have any way)
19:27 <rust_collector> I have no idea. neighbor just asked, because I know how to make garden art out of metal, so I would probably know?
19:32 <K> https://emutopia.com/index.php/emulators/item/305-acorn-archimedes/86-arcem
19:34 <EEVBot> [Title] - ArcEm - Acorn Archimedes - Downloads - Emulators
20:03 <K> ah, but that does not help with floppies, does it
20:54 <rust_collector> uhm. I don't know...
21:17 <K> wikipedia says acorn used non-standart floppies
21:57 <K> but then later talks about 3 1/2" inch ones
22:41 <K> confusing.
22:45 <rust_collector> neighbor says they fit, but dos and such can not read them. and I did show him a 2.5" drive. but maybe he does not remember, as those were written in the mid-late 80s
24:44 <K> 2.5" ?
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26:29 <rust_collector> isn't that the hard plastic one? I really really don't remember, lol
29:07 <K> small plastic ones was 3 1/2 "
29:22 <K> big floppy ones 5 1/4"
29:33 <K> there were even bigger ones i think
30:07 <rust_collector> yeah, there was an 8"
30:29 <rust_collector> ok, so probably a 3 2/4" one then
30:32 <K> i recall the zx spectrum +3 we had in school had some non-standart 3.5"-ish ones
30:36 <K> amstrad or somthing
31:55 <K> > http://www.adsb.co.uk/bbc/linux/
31:56 <EEVBot> [Title] - Reading DFS and ADFS floppy disks under Linux
33:57 <K> welp, that is it for this week
34:10 <rust_collector> good good
34:42 <rust_collector> tuesday is always a good day to end the week
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01:18 <Guest|7308> hello sir
01:52 <Guest|7308> hiiiiii
02:40 <Ampera> good morning
02:58 <rust_collector> HELLO!
03:00 <Guest|7308> how to interface tdc gp22 with stm32?
03:39 <Guest|7308> good morning
05:04 <Guest|7308> any idea?
06:15 <Kuschelpony> good evening from german timezone, but im sorry i cant help with microcontrollers
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22:33 <Ampera> https://nypost.com/2021/08/10/andrew-cuomo-resigns-as-governor-of-new-york/
22:34 <EEVBot> [Title] - Andrew Cuomo resigns as governor of New York
22:49 <Ampera> I did not expect that
23:15 <rust_collector> heh. that has to be a sign of something
25:18 <Ampera> It's a sign that the world has exhibited the single and last symptom of an impending apocalypse
25:19 <Ampera> sanity
25:40 <rust_collector> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
25:59 <rust_collector> that has to be the worst kind of apocalypse
39:11 <jaymax> "Something something dark side, something something something complete."
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28:07 <DHess_US> It is a sign that he found a way to evade responsibility.
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34:19 <Nothing\> yay
34:27 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
34:30 <Nothing\> i finally started figuring out how to play shenzhen i/o
34:51 <Nothing\> and damn is it one of the finest zachlike games i've ever had the pleasure of trying
34:53 <Nothing\> also
34:58 * Nothing\ hug tackles Ampera <3
35:03 <Nothing\> how ya doin bud?
35:18 <Nothing\> and how's your gf, mary jane
35:24 <Ampera> wha?
35:37 <Nothing\> you know cuz bud's a guy's name and slang for weed
35:47 <Nothing\> and mary jane's a chick's name and also slang for weed
35:57 <Nothing\> so it'd be funny if there was a couple named mary jane and bud
36:20 <Nothing\> i dunno, random thought
36:24 <Nothing\> also i think i have to poop
36:24 <Ampera> well I was doing good until you said that
36:28 <Ampera> have fun
36:33 <Nothing\> i just had what i refer to as an "internal fart"
37:04 <Nothing\> which is exactly what it sounds like, gas passing by solid matter in a way that it actually makes a farting noise come out of my bowels
37:37 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i was watching a video about i don't even know what the other day
37:55 <Ampera> Nothing\, did you hear about the governor?
37:58 <Nothing\> and it was saying how our lower GI tract can tell the difference between gas, liquid and solid
38:05 <Nothing\> cuomo?
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38:08 <Ampera> yes
38:12 <Nothing\> what did he didddle some more people?
38:22 <Ampera> no he resigned
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38:26 <Nothing\> i was actually just reading about that a couple of days ago so you're lucky i know what you're talking about
38:30 <Nothing\> oh, awesome
38:32 <Nothing\> good riddance
38:37 <Nothing\> he was GOP, right?
38:40 <Ampera> no
38:46 <Ampera> he was a democrat
38:47 <Nothing\> really? he was a democrat?
38:48 <Ampera> yes
38:50 <Nothing\> damn
38:52 <Nothing\> coulda fooled me
38:52 <Ampera> no surprise there
38:55 <Ampera> democrats are shitbags
38:59 <Nothing\> really?
39:12 <Nothing\> maybe it's the whole trump giving republicans a bad name thing
39:27 <Ampera> not that republicans are great, but at least you can actually vote fairly in the primaries
39:37 <Nothing\> but in general, thinking about the presidents we've had since i've been alive, which reagan was in office at that time
39:43 <Nothing\> i'm pretty sure it was reagan anyways
39:48 <Nothing\> bush was 88 to 92 wasn't he
39:53 <Ampera> which bush
39:53 <Nothing\> then clinton was 92 to 2000
39:57 <Nothing\> sr
39:58 <Ampera> lol
40:17 <Ampera> I don't think we've had a president who wasn't fucking trash since JFK
40:26 <Nothing\> actually, jimmy kimmel just had bush jr on the show a few weeks ago
40:33 <Nothing\> he's looking alright for his age
40:44 <Nothing\> and somehow he's actually gotten more articulate and coherent
40:53 <Nothing\> i think he just sucked at reading speeches
41:04 <Nothing\> if you remember the whole "bushisms" thing
41:22 <Nothing\> Ampera, honestly i'll agree wholeheartedly with that
41:23 <Ampera> I was 6 when Bush jr. left office
41:40 <Ampera> My main criticism of Trump was that he was inflated beyond proportion.
42:00 <Nothing\> JFK was the last genuinely good president who had the good of the people sincerely in his heart, and acted on that, rather in his own best interests or worst, his political career's best interests
42:01 <Ampera> All of the impact, negative or however else, was almost completely and totally fueled and generated by the media which claimed to despise him.
42:16 <Nothing\> but, that's the inevitable problem with the 2 term limit system
42:24 <Nothing\> don't get me wrong, i think there should be term limits
42:56 <Ampera> The problem with presidents is that they have too much power, but not as much as people think they do
43:01 <Nothing\> but the way it's implemented, it forces leaders to mostly act in their own best interests, which is usually something short term
43:10 <Ampera> They should be the least important part of government, with no exceptions
43:17 <Nothing\> some bill or something that inevitably gets repealed with the next round of leadership
43:41 <Ampera> presidents can't repeal bills
43:54 <Nothing\> no, i mean world leaders in general
43:59 <Nothing\> not just american ones
44:06 <Ampera> most democratically elected leaders can't repeal bills either
44:07 <Nothing\> but you know what i mean
44:52 <Nothing\> they may not repeal bills, but you know what i mean in terms of how they act in their own best interests during their term and only care about making their turn in office good (for the most part)
45:08 <Nothing\> that's why i think nobody wants to address climate change
45:36 <Nothing\> it would require taking measures that would hurt industry and the economy in the term
45:43 <Nothing\> and nobody wants to shoulder that responsibility
46:28 <Nothing\> and even if they did, the next guy to come along will just reneg on the deal anyways, like trump pulling out of that big climate change agreement thing
46:58 <Nothing\> i fogret what it was called, i wanna say the paris agreement or something like that, but i'm pretty sure that was to do with world war 2
47:05 <Nothing\> or maybe i'm mixing up my agreements here
47:34 <Nothing\> but yeah, i hadn't heard about cuomo yet cuz i don't usually read the news until i poop
47:46 <Nothing\> then i spend half an hour pooping cuz it takes like 10 minutes to read an article
47:49 <Nothing\> speaking of which, brb
48:04 <Nothing\> except i think my mom ganked the phone when she went out
53:26 <Nothing\> oh yeah Ampera
53:33 <Nothing\> dunno if you heard yet or not
53:58 <Nothing\> but apparently that virginia giuffre, epstein's former sex slave is suing prince andrew for raping her
54:31 <Nothing\> and i heard a few months ago that they put his GF/pimp in prison
54:37 <Ampera> [-----0%-----] Here is the meter detailing how much I care
55:03 <Nothing\> Ampera, you don't think it'd be great to see prince andrew get his comeupons?
55:17 <Nothing\> which apparently xchat doesn't even think is a word, it tried to suggest coupons
55:21 <Ampera> I have no interest in royal politics.
55:47 <Ampera> Few people are going to ever be put to justice now the Epstein was murdered.
55:50 <Ampera> *that
55:54 <Nothing\> neither do i, but i certainly take pleasure in watching a scum bag who's had his ass kissed and gotten away with everything all his life finally get a taste of reality
56:02 <Ampera> and that's exactly how those people wanted it
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56:32 <Nothing\> yeah that's what i don't get
56:36 <Nothing\> the prison is like
56:43 <Nothing\> "oh we must have had the cameras off"
56:49 <Nothing\> or some other bullshit
57:04 <Nothing\> and everyone (with the power to do something) is just like "oh okay that's fine then"
57:22 <Nothing\> like, there isn't even accountability for that, which in itself is egregious and blatant enough
58:28 <Ampera> Never forget that people with power and authority WILL lie and WILL deceit to hide their sins, and to push their agendas.
58:45 <Nothing\> absolute power corrupts absolutely
58:48 <Nothing\> or so they say
58:53 <Ampera> You know it's been done well when there is an unnaturally immense push to convince people of something mainstream.
58:58 <Nothing\> i say it just lets people be who they are more freely
59:12 <Nothing\> and most people deep down are scumbags
59:16 <Nothing\> including myself
00:37 <Nothing\> also being impoverished makes you appreciate things a hell of a lot more
01:38 <Nothing\> i guarantee no rich person was ever genuinely grateful for a meal, or to have a roof over their head, or enough resources to get by for another month
02:13 <Nothing\> maybe a rare one here and there who has experienced such poverty at some point and has experienced real life
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20:17 <T3sl4> meow: https://i.redd.it/5s2i35929ig71.jpg
27:27 <Nothing\> well... that happened
27:29 * Nothing\ sighs
27:36 <Nothing\> just completely lost it on my brother
28:27 <Nothing\> told him straight up "fuck you. I'll be damned if i'll let your drug shit bring Mum and I down any more. If you contact either of us again I'll call the cops. You understand me?" he said yes in a confused tone and i just said "good, then we have nothing else to say to eachother" and hung up
28:38 <Nothing\> and i've been an emotional mess ever since
28:49 <Nothing\> you know all my life all i ever wanted was a good relationship with him
29:04 <Nothing\> this is the last fucking thing i ever wanted to do. But I can't let him drag us down anymore.
29:20 <Nothing\> i let it happen for way too long
29:50 <Nothing\> if i have to smash my mom's phone and personally go to his place and beat the shit out of him i will
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50:21 <T3sl4> Nothing\: you can choose your friends, you can't choose your family
50:53 <T3sl4> the best you can do there is leave behind the pathological ones
57:37 <coppice> I can't choose my friends. The people I like don't like me
59:35 <Some_Person> Nothing\: Just because he's family doesn't mean you need to have a relationship with him
06:40 <+electrohead> o/
08:07 <Halcyon> Mew
08:11 <Nothing\> Some_Person, yeah my dad taught me thta lesson when he abandoned me
08:35 <Some_Person> Nothing\: Oh yikes, dude
08:52 <Nothing\> yeah tell me about it
08:57 <Nothing\> such is life
09:11 <Nothing\> and i grew tired of it about 20 years ago
09:18 <Some_Person> My point was more that people who bring you down aren't worth your time or energy
09:33 <Nothing\> yeah i try to keep telling myself that
09:46 <Nothing\> see it more rationally
09:56 <Nothing\> i mean, he was taking us both down with him
10:23 <Nothing\> but i absolutely hate being judgemental, especially about things i've dealt with myself
10:33 <Nothing\> but he has zero fucking redeeming qualities
11:04 <Nothing\> he just uses people, especially my Mum so he can furnish his "reliving his teenage years" as he put it
11:12 <Some_Person> It's unfortunate, but some people are just shitty
11:20 <Nothing\> and on top of that, being completely disrespectful to her at the same time
11:47 <Nothing\> like complaining that she isn't on insulin because she had to leave to take her meds instead of driving him around some more
12:25 <Nothing\> or bitching that she couldn't make a dentist appointment for him soon enough by no fault of her own. He just expects that the dentist will see him asap and he'll get in the very next day.
13:24 <Nothing\> which is easy to think when you're a 42 year old who can't even be bothered to call his fucking dentist to make his own appointments, and disrespects our Mum for being nice enough to make it for him.
13:38 <Nothing\> come to think of it, that is pretty much how a bratty teenager would act
14:08 <Nothing\> except i've known children who were more mature and more independent than him
14:29 <Some_Person> He sounds like an ass
14:55 <Some_Person> and seriously, he's 42???
14:59 <Nothing\> yup
15:03 <Some_Person> wtf
15:08 <Nothing\> tell me about it
15:10 <Halcyon> Who's an ass
15:12 <Halcyon> ?
15:14 <Nothing\> my brother
15:18 <Halcyon> Oh
15:20 <Halcyon> What an ass
15:49 <Nothing\> but fuck, it breaks my heart that it had to come to this
15:58 <Some_Person> Honestly sounds like he might need professional help
16:05 <Nothing\> all my life, since i was a kid, all i ever wanted was a good relationship with him
16:50 <Nothing\> Some_Person, well he's not talking to either of us until he's done a serious in-patient rehab and after discharge, remains sober for the same amount of time he was in the program
17:10 <Nothing\> and i don't mean some stupid little 2 week program. I mean a solid 6 month type deal
17:18 <Some_Person> Honestly, that sounds reasonable
17:24 <Nothing\> but since he doesn't want to sober up, such treatment would be useless at this point
17:32 <Nothing\> you've got to want to be sober for rehab to work
17:46 <Some_Person> Indeed. Can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped
17:59 <Some_Person> but that's entirely his choice
18:09 <Nothing\> exactly. and it's such a frustrating position to be in
18:19 <Nothing\> to see this all play out and be completely powerless to stop it
18:25 <Some_Person> if he values his vices more than a relationship with y'all, then there's nothing you can do to change that
18:28 <Nothing\> knowing full well what's going to happen
18:34 <Nothing\> shit, he literally almost died last week
18:38 <Nothing\> he was in the hospital all week
18:46 <Nothing\> first thing he does when he gets out? he gets fucked up
19:03 <Nothing\> does the exact same thing that landed him in the hospital, for the second time in a yera i should mention
19:39 * Nothing\ sighs
19:43 <Nothing\> see that's the thing too
20:04 <Nothing\> i'm thinking about it and if something ever did happen where he died, and that was the last thing i said to him. I don't think I could ever live with myself.
20:18 <Some_Person> Sounds like he needs therapy badly, but again, that's not something you can really force on someone
20:30 <Nothing\> and i know i couldn't live with it knowing i kept my mom away from him during the last moments of his life
20:33 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
20:46 <Nothing\> fuck i'm damned if i do and damned if i don't
20:56 <Nothing\> and now I want to get fucked up
21:11 <Some_Person> Nothing\: Honestly, it sounds like no-contact is probably for the best unless he gets his act together
21:14 <Nothing\> just so i'll stop thinking about this if nothing else
21:23 <Nothing\> Some_Person, rationally, deep down i know that's true
21:37 <Nothing\> but it's easier said than done when push comes to shove
22:21 <Nothing\> and the thing is, i hate that i hate to bitch him out like that. That's not the sort of person i am.
22:47 <Nothing\> but thinking about it rationally, he wouldn't have even listened if i was calm and rational about it with him
23:09 <Nothing\> nobody in his life has ever had the balls to stand up to him and talk to him like that before, so i know it's the only way he'll actually listen
23:11 <Some_Person> He put you in a tough position, and you're only human
23:34 <Nothing\> indeed, and when it's between my Mum's wellbeing and anything else, my Mum's gonna take priority
24:02 <Some_Person> You obviously have your priorities straight
24:08 <T3sl4> i'm not sure if he's narcissistic, or just forceful about it, but it doesn't sound like either of you have any positive value from spending time with him
24:17 <Nothing\> thanks, i really appreciate that
24:18 <Some_Person> ^^^^^
24:32 <Nothing\> T3sl4, no, we don't at all
24:40 * T3sl4 brings in Nothing\ and Some_Person for a nice big huggin'
25:14 <Nothing\> she just does all of his errands for him and furnishes his ability to live out his teenage years and do drugs at her expense, meanwhile her diabetes has been getting worse from the stress
25:25 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4 and Some_Person <3
25:32 * Some_Person hugs
25:41 <Nothing\> T3sl4, that's actually a really good point. Thanks for making it.
25:53 <Nothing\> as obvious as it is, i didn't actually think about it that way until you said that.
26:20 <Nothing\> and yeah, i mean if it were anyone else i would have cut them out of my life a long long time ago
26:33 <T3sl4> the closest reference i have is, my best friend growing up was, always something of a quiet / loaner type, which wasn't a problem for the most part, we'd hang out, play games, ride bikes etc
26:52 <Nothing\> i've learned to have zero tolerance for toxic relationships of any sort. Whether it's an acquaintance or some variety of love interest
27:05 <T3sl4> later on, as i went to college, and his mom insisted he get a job or education or anything, she had to kick him out i think?
27:43 <T3sl4> he befriended another friend i knew, and they went off to indiana together and that was more or less the last i heard of them
27:49 <Nothing\> yeah i was in my brother's position once too, my mom even kicked me out cuz of my drug problems as a teenager
28:21 <T3sl4> flash forward some years, i heard his younger sister graduated college, which is great, and a few more years, i heard he got into trouble i think
28:55 <T3sl4> a few years ago, that other friend messaged me on FB, curious what i was up to now
28:57 <Nothing\> which again, made it hard to do this cuz i know how difficult it is to deal with this stuff. But if he's not even going to try and is just going to sap the life out of everyone around him, especially my Mum and I, I think it's a different matter.
29:09 <Nothing\> I mean back then, I was at least still thankful when my mom helped me out
29:13 <Nothing\> and i showed it
29:18 <T3sl4> i asked and she said, he got into prison or something, i forget from what or if she said
29:23 <Nothing\> maybe not as well as i do now, but i at least showed it
29:28 <Nothing\> and i at least tried to sober up
30:05 <Nothing\> i went to inpatient detox for several weeks, did counselling, got on methadone instead of using street drugs
30:11 <T3sl4> so, not exactly a close story or anything, but i guess i dodged something by not trying to stay in touch
30:39 <Nothing\> wow
30:52 <Some_Person> T3sl4: oh wow
30:52 <Nothing\> yeha it's amazing how such little differences can cause such massive changes
31:04 <Nothing\> proof that life's a chaotic system, imo
31:20 <T3sl4> i do wonder a bit if i might've been a better influence on him had i stayed around, but idunno
31:40 <T3sl4> it's not like i blame myself or anything, just one of those cosmic possibilities y'know
31:45 <Some_Person> Nothing\: It seems very clear that he's more interested in his vices and leeching off people than anything else, and he's going to have to change that if he wants you to have anything to do with him. This is entirely his choice; it's not your fault
31:51 <Nothing\> which is kinda scary, cuz it means the difference between life and death could be as little as stopping for 30 seconds to tie your shoe and then walking up the road to find a train's derailed right where you would have been walking
32:11 <Nothing\> Some_Person, thanks man. I really needed to hear that.
32:24 <T3sl4> as for warning signs, his father wasn't a great role model, they divorced a long time ago, i think i first met him in late highschool, he lived in a trailer park somewhere on the edge of town i think
35:17 <Some_Person> And I mean hell, he's 42. He's a full grown adult. If he can't deal with the consequences of his actions, that's on him
35:51 <Nothing\> Some_Person, yeah my mom was worrying about how he'd get to an appointment on thursday and i told her, he's a big boy, there's a bus, i'm sure he can figure it out.
36:29 <T3sl4> unfortunately it's pretty late in life for him to likely take any further lessons on things; the ego is weird like that
36:31 <Some_Person> Yeah, he should definitely be able to handle getting to an appointment
36:42 <Nothing\> T3sl4, actually he used to be a lot better
36:43 <Some_Person> He should have been able to do that decades ago
36:53 <Nothing\> i mean, he's always been this selfish
37:10 <Nothing\> i remember when he was married, i had many talks with his ex about whether she should leave him or not
37:23 <Some_Person> At this point, mom helping with things like that probably does more harm than good
37:26 <Nothing\> and of everyone she asked, i was the only one who ever told her to try and stick it out
38:06 <Nothing\> even though in retrospect, i know now i should have told her to get out
38:07 <T3sl4> yeah, you're a terrible enabler :P
38:37 <Nothing\> i just figured, if it was me, i'd want at least SOMEBODY on my side
38:50 <T3sl4> but eh, it happens. it's hard to act against the signs, or even recognize them unfolding in front of you
39:09 <Nothing\> it really is, especially if you've never had any experience
39:35 <T3sl4> so, maybe he ends up between prison or halfway house or whatever; at best, he gets over his addiction and you can get your brother back
39:42 <Nothing\> i know if i never did drugs, i certainly wouldn't be able to tell when he's messed up unless he was REALLY messed up
39:44 <T3sl4> but as Some_Person said, that's up to him
40:09 <Nothing\> yeah, i just hope he understands that
40:18 <Nothing\> cuz he sure as hell wouldn't listen if anyone tried to explain it
41:15 <Nothing\> when i stopped smoking weed, i had to tell him no fewer than 6 times that i stopped smoking because he kept sending me pictures of his weed and crap on facebook and I'm just like "why do I want to see this?"
41:37 <T3sl4> it's a terrible shame that, most people only gain this kind of experience through the trauma of having to deal with it first hand. i've been able to learn a few things about human behavior and psychology but it's a hell of a lot later than when people need it the most
41:45 <Nothing\> then he sends me pictures of him doing cocaine and wonders why i told my mom about it
42:08 <T3sl4> (and again, not that i've needed to use much of that, fortunately for me)
42:37 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i've thought the same thing to myself
42:58 <Nothing\> how it's a shame that the only way I personally seem to be able to learn major life lessons is through pain and suffering and hardship like that
43:40 <Nothing\> meanwhile i look at everyone else and they just seem to be cruising along on autopilot, oblivious to the fact that some people even have to learn these life lessons. That they aren't just innately programmed into us.
44:20 <Nothing\> you know, i didn't even know working was basically mandatory for survival until i was in my mid-20s
44:43 <T3sl4> there's a lot of lies we tell ourselves
44:43 <Nothing\> and i'd already been on my own for 8 years at that point
45:01 <T3sl4> there's a phrase for that, the convenient fictions that make society work (well, to whatever extent it does)
45:10 <Nothing\> yeah, and i don't have the benefit of having other people to point out when i'm in denial
45:21 <T3sl4> one that always perplexed me was the american insistence on ""freedom""
45:26 <Nothing\> so i have to be hypervigilant almost to the point of rumination about the things i do and why i do them
45:48 <T3sl4> the freedom to be a slave for 9 hours a day, spend money, and consume TV
45:49 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yeah see that confused me too
46:15 <Nothing\> T3sl4, or worse, those people who work 100+ hours a week and don't even have time to enjoy their money
46:17 <T3sl4> or similar contradictions about the religion i was raised in, which are even more explicit and intentional (""mysteries"")
46:31 <Nothing\> like not even for the sake of survival, just working for the sake of having the extra money
46:38 <T3sl4> yep
47:15 <T3sl4> on the other hand, some people simply have no way to define themselves, other than through actions. if your brother chooses drugs, drugs will become his personality. which it sounds like it's the case
47:19 <Nothing\> yeah like, despite being a strong believer in god, i've had a very hard time believing in the bible or what to make of it, or of christ
47:50 <T3sl4> when you're so deeply into something, it becomes manifestly obvious to you why it's good, and perplexing why no one else likes it as much as you, or if they're even aware of it
47:57 <Nothing\> i dunno how familiar you are with the gospels, but the thing that confused me the most about them was how jesus taught to love your enemies and be patient and all of this during the sermon on the mount
48:40 <Nothing\> but then later on when he goes to the temple in jerusalem and finds all sorts of merchants peddling their wares in the temple, he completely loses it and smashes all of their stalls, screams at them, calls them hypocrites and kicks them out of the temple
48:48 <T3sl4> like even just between the gospels and the acts, you have jesus "did i say love everyone 'BUT'?!", then you have paul etc "okay love everyone, but don't be a damnfool about it, it's alright"
48:52 <Nothing\> so now whenever i see a "what would jesus do" bracelet, that's all i can think of
49:15 <T3sl4> fair enough, that too
49:23 <Nothing\> ah yeah i never read paul
49:30 <Nothing\> truth be told i only ever read luke and john
49:37 <Nothing\> i'm more partial to psalms
49:56 <T3sl4> (paul wrote most of the new testament, either letters from, to whomever, or whatever of the acts and such)
50:01 <Nothing\> they're nice bitesized little pieces of wisdom that are usually a lot more relevant to me than a lot of the other stuff i've read in the bible
50:11 <T3sl4> (or maybe some other disciples too, i forget anymore)
50:12 <Nothing\> plus there are some really great prayers in psalms
50:43 <Nothing\> one problem i had when i first found my faith was i never knew what to pray about or for or anything
51:12 <Nothing\> actually one problem i have yet to resolve is that i feel that praying for something is sacreligious and heretical
51:18 <Nothing\> or blasphemous anyways
52:12 <Nothing\> cuz if you think about it, god's got this grand plan that he's been setting up very precisely, then you come along and say "yeah i know you've got this plan, but can i have this?"
52:17 <T3sl4> my problem is with organized religion; if you want to be personally spiritual, that's fine, but it may prove a slippery slope into religion
52:37 <Nothing\> which would inevitably mess up his plans, unless it's something that already went along with his plan in which case it would have happened anyways
52:44 <Nothing\> T3sl4, that too
53:04 <Nothing\> actually one of the big reasons i found my faith was because i finally realized that organized religions don't represent god or his will/word
53:05 <T3sl4> ultimately, it's whatever works for you, if it's meditation in the abstract, something secular, or traditional
53:31 <Nothing\> before that i just figure, well catholics are crooked so god must be crooked too
53:42 <Nothing\> but catholics just usurped god's name
54:43 <T3sl4> it seems like, from what people say about meditation in terms of purpose, what it does for them, it seems like i already do that just whenever i need to, about whatever i need a good think about. i never found inactive sitting or chanting or anything to work for me, i've never got into a trance or something doing that
54:50 <T3sl4> so, whatever works for you
55:30 <T3sl4> as for theology, i take it a step further, along more realist/humanist lines
55:36 <Nothing\> T3sl4, exactly. despite my faith i've never been one to be preachy in the least bit. I don't even like talking about my beliefs in part, in fear of coming off as being preachy and also because my beliefs and the reasons I hold them are deeply personal and subjective and are largely connected to my own experiences. So I wouldn't expect anyone else's mind to be changed by my experiences if they were as staunch an at
56:08 <Nothing\> it's like when you wake up and excitedly tell somebody about this hugely profound dream you had
56:15 <Nothing\> and to them it's just like "yeah yeah, whatever"
56:18 <Nothing\> or vice versa
56:39 <T3sl4> oh and to wrap that up, is to say -- the purpose of reading prayers, and kneeling and contemplating or humming or whatever it is you're doing, if it's literally not doing anything, just empty recitation, why bother, y'know?
57:02 <Nothing\> but yeah, like no matter what religion somebody is, if they're happy with it and it works for them then I'm more than happy, I'm actually a bit envious.
57:03 <T3sl4> it seems that does serve a useful purpose for some people, and i mean by themselves, not as a group activity in a church or whatever
57:24 <Nothing\> so it's like a form of meditation
57:27 <Nothing\> i can see that
57:40 <Nothing\> i do mantra meditation myself. Works wonders for helping me sleep
57:51 <T3sl4> ah, cool
58:02 <Nothing\> om nama shivaya
58:36 <Nothing\> i guess it's something hindus recite with the intent of healing, or so i've heard.
58:50 <Nothing\> shivaists, obviously
59:10 <T3sl4> so, for my part i find i can contemplate, ruminate, whatever just fine, at will; i find my thoughts and digressions interesting, and maybe i tease out some deeper reasoning sometimes and that's rewarding
59:10 <Nothing\> which, i've actually always been curious about
59:32 <Nothing\> i'd love to read or learn more about the hindu mythos and the gods and that
59:46 <Nothing\> you know every hindu god has its own mount
00:00 <Nothing\> and if i recall correctly, ganesh's mount is a mouse lol
00:05 <T3sl4> and i'm not prone to pathological rumination, when something wrong happens (to me, or by me), i come to understand why, or at least come up with some possible reasons, and thus means to fix it
00:59 <Nothing\> yup i was right
01:03 <Nothing\> ganesha's mount is a mouse lol
01:27 <T3sl4> on the subject of various theologies, there's a guy i know who's... well read on just about everything, at least of the major world religions
01:46 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i just ruminate about every possible outcome or every possible act i could have taken and the implications thereof
02:07 <T3sl4> he's pretty quiet, happy just sippin his miller or whatever and enjoying life, but i've inquired a few times and he definitely knows a thing or two
02:28 <T3sl4> has a very... hippy kinda demeanor, you'd probably love to chat, hah
02:55 <T3sl4> Nothing\: yeah, i kinda figured :P
03:12 <Nothing\> i need someone like that in my life to help me with questions like this
03:26 <Nothing\> i mean, i get the sense some of these questions would stump clergy
03:38 <Nothing\> but damned if i know what they'd say, cuz you know they won't just say "i don't know"
03:46 <Nothing\> maybe something vague like "god works in mysterious ways"
04:02 <Nothing\> which is just a nice way of saying humans are too dumb to understand his will\
04:24 <T3sl4> there are apologetics for almost everything, though i've found some arguments that seem to have no standard answer
05:36 <T3sl4> the main force holding religion together is willful ignorance; the role of the apologetic is to promote that ignorance into new spaces of ideas, with pseudorational arguments
05:41 <Nothing\> yeah, the problem of evil is a standard one
05:51 <T3sl4> which, you know i'm very rational, so, that doesn't fly for me :P
05:52 <Nothing\> but i think i found a potential solution to that
06:18 <Nothing\> the way i see it, without evil, everything's good, and if everything's good then that just becomes the norm in which case everything good loses its value
06:49 <T3sl4> so god is, willfully and intentionally, evil?
07:04 <Nothing\> now, as to why such adversities seem to be the best way to teach us things, i'm not entirely sure
07:07 <T3sl4> i mean it's as good an argument as any, the matter is whether you're willing to accept it
07:14 <T3sl4> those who insist god is good, have a hard time with that
07:35 <T3sl4> the romans certainly didn't have a problem with an argument like that (for any in their pantheon) :P
08:08 <Nothing\> but i think it has to do with an evolutionary trait that causes us to focus or be affected more deeply by emotionally difficult or troubling situations, rather than happy ones so we can avoid the unpleasant situations more effectively in the future
08:33 <Nothing\> whereas it's not as evolutionarily advantageous to remember and repeat things that make us feel good or happy
08:39 <T3sl4> right, there are things that religion simply cannot teach, but which have a rational basis in fact
08:57 <T3sl4> you simply learn things better when there's an emotional response associated with it
09:03 <Nothing\> or fulfilled beyond raising a kid, but that's just biology tricking us into ensuring our genes live on
09:13 <T3sl4> sometimes too much better (PTSD?)
09:33 <Nothing\> yeah i've always thought about that too
09:49 <Nothing\> there's always the chance you can get overloaded and end up with a mental disorder
10:00 <Nothing\> in my case, anxiety/neurosis
10:15 <T3sl4> and they say there's evidence that spirituality or religiousness has a psychological basis, so it stands to reason the whole friggin house of cards is built on made up stuff
10:19 <Nothing\> and borderline but i question that diagnosis
10:43 <T3sl4> and at that point it's just memes, heh (technically correct, i.e. dawson)
11:01 <Nothing\> thinking about it objectively, it does seem like that's the most reasonable answer
11:32 <Nothing\> that there's something fundamentally built-in to our brains/psyches that causes us to gravitate towards religious, spiritual or supernatural beliefs
12:13 <T3sl4> which of course explains why, despite there being multiple mutually exclusive "the one and only" religions, no one seems to be actually threatened by apocalyptic floods anymore, or a rash of direct lightning strikes, etc
12:25 <Nothing\> i also find it curious that despite the tremendous rise in atheism relatively recently, there are very few organized atheistic groups which function like churches
12:32 <Nothing\> only without the spiritual aspect
12:53 <T3sl4> well, there are
13:01 <T3sl4> church minus spirituality is just politics
13:22 <T3sl4> it always has been, and always will be, political, but they get to have their excuse on the side
13:43 <Nothing\> you know, stuff like acting as a place for the community to convene and interact, giving back to the community through charity or philanthropy, maybe having some sort of service where they read scientific texts instead of religious ones
13:59 <T3sl4> you can find secular versions of e.g. yoga --> pilates i think it is
14:14 <Nothing\> yeah i suppose that's true
14:17 <T3sl4> y'mean a library? :)
14:37 <Nothing\> haha yeah i guess a library would fulfill all of those functions
14:42 <T3sl4> i suppose most do it on the internet, or in coffee shops, pubs etc
15:00 <T3sl4> or just any old club
15:10 <Nothing\> actually i heard that the library in my old city is doing away with late fees. Although how they'll expect anyone to return books or especially movies now is beyond me
15:28 <Nothing\> like this library had a full movie collection like you used to see in corner stores
15:33 <Nothing\> where they'd rent them out
15:45 <T3sl4> it's more fragmentary, certainly, but that's the point. if it were organized and scaled, it would be inherently political :)
15:49 <Nothing\> yeah, nevermind blockbuster, remember when you could rent a movie from the corner store
16:09 <Nothing\> T3sl4, if it doesn't start political it would degenerate into it
16:14 <T3sl4> heh yeah
16:41 <T3sl4> IIRC the striking late fees thing is, as long as you don't take out too many things. it's still got an abuse trap ofc
17:26 <Nothing\> yeah it's nice for me though cuz i was barred from borrowing for years cuz i owed them $90 for two books i returned water damaged
17:44 <Nothing\> left em on the bathroom floor with the window opened while i was out and it pissed rain all inside the window all over the books
17:45 <T3sl4> doh
17:51 <Nothing\> tbh they were still perfectly fine
18:05 <Nothing\> there were actually 4 books that got rained on, but they only noticed the water damage on 2 of them
18:49 <Nothing\> they even have an online catalog of ebooks and audiobooks you can access with your card
19:00 <Nothing\> which the library here doesn't have
19:15 <T3sl4> some online libraries have been getting in hot water for "loaning" out ebooks too many times
19:25 <Nothing\> but we DID get a 3D printer recently lol
19:28 <T3sl4> see when the banks do it it's legal, but books? oh we can't have that
19:34 <Nothing\> i guess for the kiddies to play maker on
20:15 <Nothing\> T3sl4, god forbid we depreciate the value of the books by making too many copies
20:35 <Nothing\> we wouldn't want granny to miss out on her nickle she'd get for a hard cover
20:36 <T3sl4> the value of books the publisher literally isn't printing and has no intention to do so
20:48 <Nothing\> lol yeah
20:59 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i started reading anne frank's diary last night
21:30 <Nothing\> it's pretty good so far, even though it's just her regular life it still gives you a really good insight into what life was like at that time. Especially for a teenage girl.
21:44 <T3sl4> nice
22:06 <Nothing\> but so far she's just been talking about her birthday, what presents she got like the diary, and talking about school and all of her different school mates
22:18 <T3sl4> anyway i wanna go have a walk, cheers mate :)
22:24 <Nothing\> it's funny, all of the schoolmates she said nothing good about had their names removed from it
22:42 <Nothing\> alright man, and thanks for the talk. It really helped and i feel a lot more calm now.
22:59 <Nothing\> helped to take my mind off of things. so I really appreciate that
23:05 <Nothing\> enjoy your walk
23:13 <Nothing\> i'm about to have some cabbage rolls myself :D
23:28 <T3sl4> nice
23:37 * T3sl4 drizzles sweet thai chili sauce on Nothing\
23:42 <T3sl4> alright cya
23:50 <Nothing\> ya have a good one man
37:40 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
39:21 * Halcyon licks Ampera
41:47 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
41:51 <Ampera> how are you doing?
42:27 <Halcyon> Doing OK
42:29 <Halcyon> How are you?
42:46 <Ampera> Have I told you I'm doing work for an organization which hosts wikis?
42:52 <Halcyon> Nope
43:03 <Ampera> I am, I am currently their main admin for their hosting servers
43:12 <Halcyon> Very good
43:20 <Ampera> just fixed a problem we ran into on a site we recently ported over to our new FreeBSD server
43:35 <Ampera> the site originally ran on Linux, and has a MediaWiki extension called Scribunto, which allows for Lua scripting within pages
43:51 <Ampera> the problem is the extension packaged binary versions of Lua for Windows, Linux, and macOS, but not FreeBSD
44:15 <Ampera> so the solution was simply to change a config line to point it towards the binary installed on the system for FreeBSD
51:02 <Halcyon> \o/
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20:16 <+electrohead> o/
21:54 <T3sl4> huh, looked like it was gonna rain for the last hour, still back before anything touched down
22:28 <T3sl4> does seem to be some small cells and a nice big front on the radar though
24:27 <Halcyon> Right new breaker is in, we'll see if that makes a difference
27:06 * electrohead uninstalls Ampera's binary
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31:25 <T3sl4> oh dang
31:52 <+electrohead> Wha' happened?
32:41 <T3sl4> power dipped twice, long enough for most things to reboot
33:28 <T3sl4> this is coming https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/KMKX_loop.gif so that might happen
41:02 <+electrohead> Oof
41:13 <+electrohead> You need a few UPS's for your computers, my man
41:15 <+electrohead> :p
42:24 <T3sl4> perhaps
42:39 <T3sl4> only happens a few times a year, not a big problem overall tbh
43:23 <Nothing\> hey, thanks Ampera
43:24 <Nothing\> <3
43:28 <T3sl4> heh, my dead-battery laptop managed not to reboot it seems
43:33 <Nothing\> i needed that
43:45 <Nothing\> and it was nice to come in here and see :)
44:08 <Nothing\> and these days it seems you've gotta hold onto anything the least bit nice or good cuz everything else is just shit-
46:37 * T3sl4 fondles Halcyon
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03:32 <T3sl4> heh, it's cooled down enough that a window is gathering condensation on its inner surface
06:21 <Ampera> heuheuheuheueheueheueheuehe
06:23 <Ampera> eueue
06:35 <Ampera> potatoes
07:02 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
07:26 * Ampera gives T3sl4 a prosciutto and cream cheese sandwich
07:52 * T3sl4 rejects it angrily
07:55 <T3sl4> i demand POTATO!
08:23 * Ampera hands T3sl4 a pack of SPUDS brand cigarettes
08:36 * T3sl4 sticks them in all his eyes, satisfyingly
09:03 <Ampera> ya gonna smoke yer eye out with that
09:51 <Ampera> Halcyon, is your ground fault still being current interrupted?
16:57 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera again <3
17:07 <Nothing\> you know, this shenzhen i/o is a pretty fun game
17:15 <Nothing\> i'd strongly recommend it
17:30 <Nothing\> especially if you're partial to zachlikes as I am
18:17 * T3sl4 sweats on Nothing\
18:49 <Nothing\> mmm sebum
19:02 <T3sl4> not that i'm very sweaty anymore, but that was how the walk went :P
19:08 <Nothing\> heh yeah
19:19 <Nothing\> i stuck my head out the door and it was so humid out there
20:47 <Nothing\> not sure where you are, but it was around 40c here with the humidity today
20:53 <Nothing\> supposed to go up to 42 tomorrow
26:28 <Halcyon> Ampera, the breaker has been changed
26:31 <Halcyon> We'll see how it goes
28:14 <Nothing\> man, playing shenzhen i/o is making me wanna play with my 8051/52 simulator
28:37 <Nothing\> except the only version that exists is for linux which means setting up my pi, which will just be a pain in the ass
28:49 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i need to get an HDMI splitter
30:02 <Nothing\> 5 HDMI devices and only 3 ports, plus i need a display port to HDMI adapter so i can use dual monitors. Never even heard of a display port but I don't see what's wrong with HDMI that they've gotta have 3 out of 4 ports on my video card be display ports
30:57 <Nothing\> i don't know much about them, but frankly i don't see the point of a display port
31:31 <Nothing\> maybe it's technically superior to HDMI in some way that makes it more appropriate for a connection from video card to display device
31:44 * Nothing\ wikis
33:46 <rust_collector> Nothing\ they don't have to pay to use the name hdmi, so that is a thing...
56:31 <MrMobodies> Hello
56:38 <MrMobodies> Does anyone remember a video
56:49 <MrMobodies> with Dave Jones testing a brand of battery
56:56 <MrMobodies> I think it was a Rayovac
57:03 <MrMobodies> it didn't state what chemistry
57:12 <MrMobodies> but he measured them at 1.6v
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00:15 <Nothing\> phew
00:21 <Nothing\> just went for a walk myself, T3sl4
00:27 <Nothing\> so bloody humid out there
00:48 <Nothing\> every square inch of me was soaked with sweat by the time i got back. And it was scarcely a 30 minute walk
01:00 <Nothing\> ironically the only part of me that was dry was my mouth
01:10 <T3sl4> yeah, it's crazy over there
01:23 <Nothing\> and it's only 23c out
01:43 <T3sl4> oh i thought you said 40 earlier, or maybe that was some days ago
01:43 <Nothing\> yeah actually did you see the recent report on climate change the UN just released
02:02 <Nothing\> apparently they just released the first of 4 reports they do every few years on the state of climate change
02:12 <Nothing\> and they basically said point blank, we're fucked
02:26 <T3sl4> it was about 29 here, heh down to 23 after the rain
02:37 <T3sl4> yeah the IPCC
03:04 <Nothing\> even if we eliminated all sources of greenhouse gasses, climate change will continue to get worst past the year 2050 they said
03:10 <Nothing\> yeah that one
03:28 <Nothing\> and how CO2 levels right now are higher than they've been in the last 2 million years
04:35 <Nothing\> which reminds me of that joke on the simpsons where on the news they're like "and it's so hot out right now that it's hotter than back billions of years ago when the earth was still a ball of molten lava"
04:45 <Nothing\> or something to that effect
05:46 <Nothing\> and on another note, apparently more and more scientists are starting to seriously question whether covid came from that lab in Wuhan
05:51 <Nothing\> even Dr Fauci
06:16 <Nothing\> i figured it was just another crackpot conspiracy theory, but it seems there's some gravitas to the story
07:00 <Nothing\> did you hear there were two employees at the high security infectious disease lab here in manitoba. Basically does the same research on super dangerous pathogens like Wuhan does
07:09 <Nothing\> they were found to be chinese spies
07:44 <Nothing\> and at some point they illegally shipped specimens of ebola and one other obscure pathogen i can't recall the name of over to the Wuhan lab
08:59 <Nothing\> part of me wonders if this was perhaps a test to see what would happen if they unleashed a weapons grade disease on the world. And it seems the answer is pretty much the same. Mutually assured destruction.
09:14 <Nothing\> which one doesn't usually think of when they consider biological weapons
10:15 <Nothing\> hrm let's see... what to play
10:44 <Nothing\> think my brain's had enough shenzhen i/o for tonight
11:24 * electrohead points at the wall of text
11:31 <Nothing\> no u
11:34 <+electrohead> lol
11:36 <+electrohead> hey mate :p
12:50 <Nothing\> hey man, how's it going
13:27 <+electrohead> oh it's going, just officially got done work not too long ago, for the day
13:28 <+electrohead> you?
13:54 <Nothing\> right on
14:01 <Nothing\> oh you know
14:04 <Nothing\> i'm chugging along
14:38 <+electrohead> it's what we all do \o/
15:48 <Nothing\> indeed
17:43 <Nothing\> i've just had an emotionally exhausting day
21:31 <Halcyon> Do you guys know your coax cables?
21:38 <+electrohead> partially
21:49 * electrohead wraps Halcyon in RG-8U
21:50 <T3sl4> not biblically
21:53 <Halcyon> https://www.rojone.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/times-lmr240.pdf
22:10 <Halcyon> Does this stuff look pretty good for low-loss/low-noise?
22:33 <T3sl4> for gps?
22:36 <Halcyon> Yessum
22:54 <T3sl4> it's under 10dB/100ft, that's quite good
22:55 <+electrohead> how long of a feed line will you need?
23:08 <Halcyon> Only 3.5 metres
23:18 <+electrohead> lmr240 will be fine, then
23:23 <Halcyon> But I need as much signal as I can get as the antenna is going to be mounted indoors in a shit spot
23:28 <Halcyon> But it's the only thing I can do
23:56 <T3sl4> you can get away with worse, if it's too pricey/inflexible
24:06 <+electrohead> yeah for sure
24:20 <Halcyon> I can get it made up to with the ends I need to the length I need for $38
24:23 <+electrohead> but if you *really* care about loss, look at lmr-400
24:24 <+electrohead> xD
24:24 <Halcyon> So it's not super expensive really
24:55 <T3sl4> guessing your budget is under 10db so, under 100dB/100ft would seem to be required
25:10 <Halcyon> *nod*
26:31 <Nothing\> lol gonna print off a picture of a cat's face and put it on a random door in the house
26:42 <Halcyon> Nothing\.... OK?
26:53 <Nothing\> Halcyon, it'llf reak my cats out
27:05 <Halcyon> Hahah you're mean... but I approve
27:10 <Nothing\> lol they get freaked out just by an extension cord laying in the hall
27:16 <Halcyon> Stupid cats
27:23 <Nothing\> my one cat, luci will sit there batting it cautiously
28:04 <Nothing\> smokey's a bit smarter than that, although there's something in my laundry he's been reacting the same way to that i have no idea what it is
28:42 <+electrohead> quit washing your dildo's then? lol
28:58 <Nothing\> which sucks cuz he has to pass my laundry to get to what i've dubbed his "safety cave" which is just a chair that i draped a blanket over with access to the area under my bed and behind my headboard so he can hide whenever he wants
29:07 <Halcyon> electrohead, don't be stupid...
29:13 <Halcyon> Dildo's go in the dishwasher
29:16 <Nothing\> cuz he's terrified of fireworks and thunderstorms and we've had an abundance of both lately
29:28 <Nothing\> dildo's what go in the dishwasher?
29:29 <+electrohead> but what if I like the sound?
29:42 <Halcyon> Of it clanging in the washing machine?
29:43 <+electrohead> plus, I wouldn't want those special juices combined with my dishes
29:45 <Nothing\> and who's dildo?
29:53 <Halcyon> Nothing\, presumably your own?
29:53 <Nothing\> you mean dilbert's dog
29:56 <Nothing\> dildog
30:04 <+electrohead> hahaha
30:48 <Nothing\> i wouldn't be surprised if there was a dilbert porno
31:45 <Nothing\> there was this company, i dunno if they still exist, but about 10 years ago or so they made all sorts of weird pornos lampooning adult cartoons like family guy, american dad and the simpsons (complete with yellow skin and wigs)
31:51 <+electrohead> Halcyon: ghidra is still having an issue with opening that EXE, even after updating to the latest and greatest
32:15 <+electrohead> Nothing\: lol, yeah, I've accidentally came across a few of those
32:18 <Nothing\> electrohead, i guess kaiju don't have the greatest CS skills
33:49 <+electrohead> hrmm?
34:19 <Nothing\> ghidra was a kaiju from the Godzilla series
34:34 <Nothing\> didn't you ever play Godzilla: Monster of Monsters on the NES
35:20 <Nothing\> kind of a meh game, but it was fun at the time and taught me a hand full of kaiju from the series, since i've never been a fan to begin with
35:30 <+electrohead> not at all
35:54 <Nothing\> but ghidra was like, the last boss of the game. So he was the badass of all of them
36:02 <Nothing\> actualy, that game had some good music
36:29 <Nothing\> a lot of NES games did. Though they were mostly just 30-60 second loops. 60 if you're lucky.
36:43 <Nothing\> I used to love playing NES game music on my midi keyboard
37:01 <Nothing\> or before that, on my guitar which i no longer have
39:00 <Nothing\> ugh going outside is almost just like stepping into a sauna
39:04 <Nothing\> so humid
39:32 <Nothing\> 95% relative humidity, jeez
40:01 <Nothing\> i remember one time it was so humid out that water was actually condensing in my hair as dew
40:28 <Nothing\> actually we're close to that, it's 22c out and the dew point's only 21
40:36 <Nothing\> i should check the wet bulb temperature here
41:52 <Nothing\> and i think the name for the instrument they use to check the wet bulb temperature is the best name ever for a scientific instrument
41:58 <Nothing\> a psychrometer
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28:46 <steve30> hi
28:52 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZnS-whVuDI
28:53 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: M919 Fake Cache and a Reproduction L2 Cache Module
29:00 <Halcyon> Hah, I have never seen fake cache chips on a board
29:04 <Halcyon> Wow
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36:19 <DogWomble> Yeah, it was somewhat frequent around the 486 time
37:04 <DogWomble> it wasn't common from reputable vendors, but a few of the cheapie boards were believed to use fake cache chips to try and sell a cache without having to spend as much money on one
37:20 <DogWomble> the first you'd note is that the 486 wasn't performing how you would expect it to
38:09 <DogWomble> https://www.redhill.net.au/b/b-bad.html <-- that's when i first uncoveredi nformation on it
38:12 <EEVBot> [Title] - bad motherboards
40:07 * steve30 coffees
01:17 <Halcyon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyswX_bXAAYDxjB?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
01:23 <Halcyon> Hahah accurate
02:08 Quit: Guest69 ([email protected]) Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
03:02 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
03:17 <steve30> What's halcyon's bird called? I forget.
03:38 <Halcyon> Jerry
03:39 <T3sl4> jerk?
03:42 <Halcyon> That too
05:14 * steve30 paws at jerry
31:08 <Halcyon> Cockatiels are not for eating steve30
37:38 <T3sl4> are you sure? they're abundant over there
38:10 * steve30 nibbles on T3sl4 
38:50 * T3sl4 drops some poultry treats by steve30
57:56 <Nothing\> ugh
58:23 <Nothing\> just spent 30 minutes trying to troubleshoot my 65C816 SBC
58:40 <Nothing\> turned out i didn't have the usb cable plugged into the computer
58:44 * Nothing\ facepalms
00:10 <Nothing\> still haven't figured out how to upload programs to it. Much less what on earth I would use as output.
00:27 <Nothing\> I'll have to read up more on the output buses and their respective chips
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55:39 <Lord_of_nothing> Hey
55:42 <Lord_of_nothing> How are you today?
55:47 <steve30> hi
55:52 <Lord_of_nothing> Nice to meet everyone!
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31:29 <Halcyon> Fucking electricity!
31:33 <Halcyon> Well it wasn't the breaker
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01:51 <Lord_of_nothing> haha...
01:59 <Lord_of_nothing> Use a Benzin or Diesel Generator.
11:52 <Halcyon> Now I understand steve30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHQbkMpr5o
11:53 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: My Cat Likes To Be Hit
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52:45 <Ampera> good morning
02:15 <steve30> A masochistic cat eh?
02:37 <steve30> Logic suggests that cats should be the ones hitting humans with cardboard toobs.
02:51 <Halcyon> Yes, but like you, it loves it :P
02:57 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
03:15 <Ampera> Halcyon, the ground is all your fault >:D
03:16 * steve30 coffees
14:02 * Halcyon licks steve30 
14:06 <Halcyon> Mmmm dark roast
14:18 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
14:22 <Halcyon> Cranky
14:26 <Halcyon> This issue is pissing me off
14:55 <Ampera> simply isolate all of Australia from ground
14:56 <Ampera> that'd fix it
15:03 <Halcyon> Yeh it would
19:28 <kiska> Halcyon: https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/81a5f0fc0fe84d7f/image.png
20:03 <Ampera> new rule, any and all jokes are now a permaban offense, since you people can't use them responsibly.
23:24 <kiska> Blame DogWomble dad joke generator :D
27:13 <Ampera> THIS IS A TRAVESTY: https://www.dw.com/en/ex-german-chancellor-bemoans-currywurst-loss-at-vw/a-58830099?maca=en-rss-en-ger-1023-rdf
27:15 <EEVBot> [Title] - Ex-German Chancellor bemoans currywurst loss at VW | News | DW | 11.08.2021
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